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You had a volunteer, ten years ago,
saying he could infiltrate a North
Korean Friendship group in Denmark.
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You said that wasn't really big
enough for you to investigate,
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but you'd stay in contact
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and if it became bigger,
then you could revisit it.
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It did.
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I used to work for
the British security service,
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otherwise known as MI5,
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so the film team has asked me in
to debrief you.
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He is a retired chef. Mm-hm.
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He resides in the suburbs of
Copenhagen,
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together with his family.
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Do you happen to know if he's told
his wife what he was doing?
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I don't think so. No?
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And, over those early years,
your mole had progressed up
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the hierarchy of the North Korean
Friendship Association
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until he was
a position of influence in Europe
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and knew the head guy in Europe.
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Do you think Alejandro is dangerous?
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You brought in a fake businessman.
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He has to play the part of Mr James.
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And suddenly the North Koreans get
very excited about the
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possibility of weapons trading,
or drug smuggling, or whatever.
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And deals are cut,
contracts are signed.
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So, what I want to think about is
where does that leave us now?
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And did the Koreans have
any preferences
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when it came to countries
or suggestions?
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The mole speaks about how they are
going to produce methamphetamine
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and weapons, and then
Alejandro Cao de Benos says...
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DETECTOR BEEPS
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I knew, if something is
going to happen here, it's over.
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BEEPING
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HE SCOFFS
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BEEPING CONTINUES
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CAR STARTS
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HE EXHALES
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What happened next?
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HE GROANS
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So, just to be fully clear here,
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he was fully briefed on the plans to
build the secret factory in Uganda?
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Loved the idea. OK. Yeah.
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In Uganda, Mr James
would be the playmaker.
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Yeah, OK.
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And to have it all on camera,
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he brought a photographer
who was filming
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for a covert video about his life
as a man of international mystery.
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And the mole,
he brought his hidden camera.
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So, what happens next?
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Is that...?
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And who is he?
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NEWSCASTER: Earlier this month,
North Korea threatened to fire
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missiles towards
the US territory of Guam.
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This provoked the US president
into threats of war.
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North Korea best not make any more
threats to the United States.
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They will be met with fire and fury
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like the world has never seen.
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LAUGHTER
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How had you found
the island in the first place?
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LAUGHTER
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EXCITED CHATTER
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MAN: We are waiting for someone.
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Your sister? Your brother?
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MAN: I will show you one on the
other side and then we are done,
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and then you have an idea
of all the things.
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Did you get an impression that they
had something out of the box,
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so they had done this before and
had a standard plan,
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a standard look for disguising
these sort of facilities?
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They had worked with other
people like this?
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How can that be done?
Was the government involved?
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We were really crazy as well.
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Thank you.
APPLAUSE
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GROANING
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LAUGHTER
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THUMPING MUSIC PLAYS
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So, although the true purpose
of the project was not
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revealed to the Africans,
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buying the island in Uganda
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and using it for a secret weapons
and drug factory
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seemed to be right up
the alley of the North Koreans,
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which was kind of important
to prove.
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But it did not stop there
because, while in Uganda,
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the North Korean arms dealer
Mr Danny was ready to take
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the joint venture a step further.
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Yeah, we can meet in the lobby.
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North Koreans needing to move
armaments to Syria is
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actually a very interesting
piece of information,
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so please allow me
to digress a little bit.
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Historically, North Korea and Syria
have been friends for many years
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and the North Koreans were even
building a nuclear reactor
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in the Syrian desert until the
Israelis decided to blow it up.
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During the civil war in Syria,
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the New York Times published
a story about how North Korea was
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helping the Syrian regime
with its chemical weapons programme.
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At the same time, small arms
from North Korea have been found
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in the hands of fighters
from the Islamic State,
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but most likely these weapons were
stolen from the Syrian army.
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So, when the North Korean arms
dealer Mr Danny wants to send bombs
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and projectiles to Syria, the end
user is probably the Syrian regime.
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So what did you say to Danny
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when he suggested that you
help with the Syria move?
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Something I still feel bad about is
sending Mr James to Beijing
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to meet with North Korean arms
dealers.
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People who are in the know about
the dark side
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advised us strongly against it.
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Because if the Chinese
intelligence service would shine
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their lights on Mr James, it
would be another ball game entirely.
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But Mr James is a man
who craves action
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and I am a film-maker who craves
sensation, so he went anyway.
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Both men are North Korean.
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I know this because sometimes
they speak Korean to each other
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in the dialect of the North.
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Asking for names of clients
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and contacts in the world of arms
dealing seems to be a show stopper.
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And what was the power dynamic
between these two?
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Was the enigmatic Stoneface
summoned to Beijing
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in order to verify the identity
of Mr James?
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He never says a word,
he does not even smile,
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so we can never know for sure
about Stoneface,
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but it is safe to say that
his appearance made a difference.
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Yeah.
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HE LAUGHS
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HE LAUGHS LOUDLY
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So, when did they contact you again?
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Hm.
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My actor, Mr James, seemed to be
taking on a life of his own.
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That was a concern.
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Another concern was the mole going
back to Spain to brief
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Alejandro Cao de Benos about the
Tourism Project, the code name
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chosen for the underground weapons
and drugs factory in Uganda.
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By now, the mole had been undercover
for more than seven years
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and paranoia was running high.
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So far, no intelligence service
had caught onto us,
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but, every time we met with
Alejandro Cao de Benos,
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we had to consider the possibility
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that he was being followed
by spooks.
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At the same time, we also had
to consider the risk
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that Alejandro would upgrade
his counter surveillance
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with new devices
for discovering microphones.
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From now on, the mole would only
meet with Alejandro in a hotel
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chosen by us with security
on standby next door
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in case his cover was blown.
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Soon Alejandro would spring
another surprise on the mole,
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but first a piece of nostalgia.
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You see, going to North Korea
with Alejandro as my tour guide
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back in 2006 left
a long-lasting impression on me.
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Apparently I had also left
a long-lasting impression
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on Alejandro Cao de Benos
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and so had my first documentary
about North Korea, The Red Chapel.
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The film stars two Danish-Korean
comedians who go to Pyongyang
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and lampoon the leadership,
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which means that I am not Mr Popular
in North Korea any more.
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HE SPEAKS ANOTHER LANGUAGE
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Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao
de Benos is a man who thinks big.
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During the meeting in Barcelona,
Alejandro tells the mole
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of an ambitious plan
for a triangle deal
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involving Mr James, North Korea
and a Jordanian businessman.
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Which is...?
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If the mole could get Mr James to
Spain, Alejandro will introduce him
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to his plans for triangular trading.
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HE COUGHS AND LAUGHS
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Hmm.
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LAUGHTER
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So my two proxies,
the mole and Mr James,
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went to Jordan to find out
if there really is a man named
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El Dasouki who wants to triangle
with them and North Korea.
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Have a nice day.
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BELL RINGS
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I guess that's the food.
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Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
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ANNIE: So was the contract
actually signed?
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They signed the contract.
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For how much?
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NAME BLEEPED OUT
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Here, El Dasouki mentions
a major Jordanian power broker,
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but, due to legal reasons,
his name cannot be disclosed.
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Next, the mole was asked
to go to Sweden
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because a package was waiting
for him to be picked up
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at the North Korean embassy
in Stockholm.
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Like my sort of movie!
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So...
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Thank you for the ride.
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Then, in this tale of intrigue
and deception,
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a new character made his appearance.
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It was Mr Ju, a North Korean envoy
who came to Copenhagen
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to do business with Mr James.
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Last time the world met Mr Ju
was on the Australian version
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of 60 Minutes, where
he acts as a smiling mouthpiece
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for the regime in Pyongyang.
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LAUGHTER
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And did Alejandro
know about this deal as well?
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Now the North Koreans would discover
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that Denmark also is
a very alcoholised country.
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Chin-chin!
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Had Mr James chosen to honour the
contract he signed in Copenhagen,
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he would have to wire
millions of dollars to El Dasouki
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in Jordan as payment
for oil to North Korea.
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In return, North Korea would deliver
manpower and products
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to the island of Mr James
and so goes the triangle trade.
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From his office in Jordan,
El Dasouki was now
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threatening legal action unless
Mr James honoured their contract
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and showed him the money.
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Meanwhile, the North Korean
weapons dealer, Mr Danny,
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who we met in Uganda, was pushing
for a meeting with Mr James
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in order to "speed up" the business.
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They met in a hotel in Cambodia,
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where Mr James was taken to the next
level in the circle of trust.
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GUNSHOTS
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In Cambodia, it became apparent
that the sanctions are working.
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The North Koreans are desperate
to find clients who will buy
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their weapons and it seems like
Mr James is their big white hope.
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And what about
the triangulation deal?
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Where's that left at the moment?
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So this is where you left it? Yeah.
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They still trust you.
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But not for long.
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The investigation had gone
as far as it could,
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so Mr James had to disappear.
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Thanks to my intervention,
Mr James went off the grid
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and simply vanished, no longer
answering his phone nor his emails.
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In short, Mr James became a ghost.
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Meanwhile, the mole was taking care
of business
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as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia.
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First, he went to London to protest
against the BBC,
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together with his comrade in arms,
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the British delegate of
the Korean Friendship Association,
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Mr Dermot Hodgson.
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Then the mole went to Spain
for his last in-person meeting
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with his president,
Alejandro Cao de Benos.
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Several items were on the agenda.
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And old carpets on the floor.
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But most important was the sudden
disappearance of Mr James.
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To top it off,
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the mole had been chosen as the host
of the annual KFA meeting.
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It was I who wrote the speeches
for the mole
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and now he would
deliver his final sermon.
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As I had planned it, the mole
would share the fruits
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of the top-secret work he had been
doing with his mentor Alejandro.
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Following the annual KFA meeting,
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one member of the
Korean Friendship Association
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praised the Tourist Project on the
message board of the KFA.
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Alejandro told the mole
to delete everything at once.
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Also, a member named Jean Paul
left the KFA
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because he panicked about
spying and hacking.
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At the end of this,
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I hired the former intelligence
officer Annie Machon.
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Before she went rogue
and became a whistle-blower,
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she was working for the British
security service, the MI5.
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Her exploits as a whistle-blower
have made her controversial,
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but that is of no concern to me.
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I am only interested in
her qualifications as a spy.
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Running long-time undercover agents
was her line of work,
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as was debriefing
agents at the end of their missions.
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If someone has put ten years
of their life into doing something,
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and they've been very solitary
in what they're doing,
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they do need a chance
just to tell someone exactly
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what they went through.
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It's almost like a confessional.
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And, of course, you do want to,
to reward them at the end of it,
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even if it's just with a recognition
they can't really tell anyone about,
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apart from perhaps their wife
or their husband.
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But it is that recognition
that's very important
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when they've been working
undercover for so long.
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Such as a lavish dinner?
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A lavish dinner usually works
very well, yes.
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And I want to raise a toast to you
both for what you have achieved.
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I think it's probably the...
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..most impressive private
intelligence operation
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I've ever heard of.
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How are you going to protect
these two guys
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from any reprisals
from the North Koreans?
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Regarding Mr James, he simply
refuses to be...
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SHE LAUGHS
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..you know...protected or
advised about security.
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OK.
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Erm, we have prepared for an
after-care programme for the mole,
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also taking care of his security.
Mm-hm.
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And his family?
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And his family as well.
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Erm...
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What I am more concerned
about regarding the mole is that
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being the mole has been
a part of his identity
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for more than ten years, you know?
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So, what will happen
when we bring him in?
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Entering any form of secret-type
world is very seductive -
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I know from personal experience.
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And, for those who have been
living a double life,
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with all the danger and the
adrenaline rush and everything,
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it is incredibly difficult, often,
to go back to mundane reality.
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In the long-run,
we all must face reality.
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So, finally,
I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen
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to see where the mole lives
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and meet with him and his wife.
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It is a long story,
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but let's cut to the ending.
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Mm-hm.
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HE EXHALES
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HE LAUGHS
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