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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,697 --> 00:00:04,700 [soft bright music] 2 00:00:14,971 --> 00:00:17,756 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,846 - [Lucas] They call it March Madness for a reason. 4 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:24,024 [spectators cheering] 5 00:00:36,558 --> 00:00:39,256 And every tournament is better with an underdog, right? 6 00:00:41,563 --> 00:00:44,914 [spectators cheering] 7 00:00:44,957 --> 00:00:46,829 - [Reporter] The hottest thing in Chicago sports right now 8 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:49,919 isn't the Cubs, the Sox, the Bulls, or the Blackhawks. 9 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:51,268 - [Announcer] Here comes the player of the year 10 00:00:51,312 --> 00:00:53,662 of the MVC, he rises, oh! 11 00:00:53,705 --> 00:00:55,185 - [Reporter] It's the Loyola Ramblers. 12 00:00:55,229 --> 00:00:57,100 - [Announcer] And the dream is alive! 13 00:00:58,101 --> 00:00:59,798 [players cheering] 14 00:00:59,842 --> 00:01:01,626 - [Lucas] But our journey was more important 15 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:02,888 than the buzzer beaters. 16 00:01:02,932 --> 00:01:05,935 - [Announcer] Townes for three, yes! 17 00:01:07,763 --> 00:01:09,895 - [Lucas] With every round we advanced, 18 00:01:09,939 --> 00:01:11,897 we were reminded of our past. 19 00:01:11,941 --> 00:01:15,249 [gentle upbeat music] 20 00:01:15,292 --> 00:01:16,163 - [Announcer] Away we go, 21 00:01:16,206 --> 00:01:19,514 Loyola Chicago controls the tip. 22 00:01:19,557 --> 00:01:22,343 - [Red] Egan, Egan to Harkness, turnaround jumper's good. 23 00:01:22,386 --> 00:01:25,955 Jerry made his first basket, he made it, he might do it. 24 00:01:25,998 --> 00:01:29,263 - When you study the early days of basketball, 25 00:01:29,306 --> 00:01:31,221 Loyola Chicago sticks out. 26 00:01:31,265 --> 00:01:33,180 The youth of America, they need to know 27 00:01:33,223 --> 00:01:34,790 what that generation went through, 28 00:01:34,833 --> 00:01:37,053 and they need to carry the baton. 29 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:38,576 - Jerry Harkness was the captain 30 00:01:38,620 --> 00:01:40,709 of that Loyola team and joins us now. 31 00:01:40,752 --> 00:01:43,103 What a pleasure it is to meet you, sir. 32 00:01:43,146 --> 00:01:44,582 - It's a pleasure to be here. 33 00:01:45,496 --> 00:01:47,846 - [Announcer] Custer looking for help, gets it, Williamson. 34 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:51,328 [spectators cheering] 35 00:01:51,372 --> 00:01:53,461 - [Lucas] My name is Lucas Williamson. 36 00:01:53,504 --> 00:01:56,638 I was a freshman in 2018 when the Loyola Ramblers 37 00:01:56,681 --> 00:01:58,727 made it to the Final Four, 38 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:03,210 for the first time in 55 years. 39 00:02:04,602 --> 00:02:07,736 We were always told how the '63 team made history, 40 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:10,565 but it was in the forgotten details 41 00:02:10,608 --> 00:02:12,741 that I found a deeper connection. 42 00:02:12,784 --> 00:02:15,700 - [Ross] My absolute and unshakeable stance 43 00:02:15,744 --> 00:02:19,269 for segregation of the races at all levels. 44 00:02:19,313 --> 00:02:20,270 - [Man] Go home, nigger. 45 00:02:20,314 --> 00:02:22,664 - This is not 200 years ago. 46 00:02:22,707 --> 00:02:24,231 These are our fathers and our grandfathers 47 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:26,189 that have gone through this. 48 00:02:26,233 --> 00:02:29,149 - This was more than a game, this was history. 49 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:32,369 - [Lucas] It's time the rest of the world 50 00:02:32,413 --> 00:02:33,805 hears their whole story, 51 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:36,808 about those who changed the game, 52 00:02:39,028 --> 00:02:40,943 by playing it their way. 53 00:02:40,986 --> 00:02:43,641 [upbeat music] 54 00:02:44,816 --> 00:02:48,168 [gentle dramatic music] 55 00:02:54,957 --> 00:02:56,263 [gentle bright music] 56 00:02:56,306 --> 00:03:00,136 The story of any great team begins with the coach. 57 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:04,053 And in this case, a day he would never forget. 58 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:09,667 - It is very hard for me to think back to that day in 1959. 59 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:13,410 I was in nursing school at Loyola. 60 00:03:13,454 --> 00:03:15,630 And I came out of class the one day, 61 00:03:15,673 --> 00:03:18,720 and it was just a regular kind of autumn day. 62 00:03:19,851 --> 00:03:21,592 My dad was George Ireland. 63 00:03:21,636 --> 00:03:24,856 He was the Loyola University basketball coach. 64 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:28,730 There was something different about Dad that day. 65 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:32,081 I don't know if something happened at practice, at school, 66 00:03:33,038 --> 00:03:35,432 but I walked over towards Dad's office 67 00:03:35,476 --> 00:03:37,129 and I looked up and I thought, 68 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:38,914 "Well, what on Earth can that be?" 69 00:03:42,091 --> 00:03:46,574 And it was a hanging effigy of my father. 70 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:51,753 I thought, "How could someone do that to my dad?" 71 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:57,019 - [John] There were chants, "Get rid of Ireland." 72 00:03:57,062 --> 00:03:58,760 "We need a new coach." 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,372 - Those students were totally unhappy. 74 00:04:02,416 --> 00:04:04,026 They wanted him out. 75 00:04:05,288 --> 00:04:09,074 His job was in jeopardy because he was losing. 76 00:04:09,118 --> 00:04:13,427 - We played hard, but we didn't have a lot of talent. 77 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:16,865 He had to start bringing new players in. 78 00:04:17,996 --> 00:04:20,956 - George Ireland had to confront all this stuff. 79 00:04:20,999 --> 00:04:24,133 He knew if he kept going the way he was going, 80 00:04:24,176 --> 00:04:25,308 he was done as a coach. 81 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,617 [bright upbeat music] 82 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:36,711 The one thing about basketball 83 00:04:36,754 --> 00:04:40,018 is all you need is that backboard and hoop, and a ball. 84 00:04:40,062 --> 00:04:42,847 In cities where there's a big population, 85 00:04:42,891 --> 00:04:46,373 not much space, well, it's the perfect game. 86 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:49,463 - The best players in the country were from Harlem. 87 00:04:49,506 --> 00:04:51,813 They were playing a style of basketball 88 00:04:51,856 --> 00:04:54,250 that was up-tempo and fast-paced. 89 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:55,425 - [Michael] One of the best ways 90 00:04:55,469 --> 00:04:56,905 that I've heard it described 91 00:04:56,948 --> 00:05:00,735 is the old school basketball was played on the floor 92 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:03,868 and modern basketball was played in the air. 93 00:05:03,912 --> 00:05:07,089 [bright upbeat music] 94 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:10,745 - It felt like the early style of basketball 95 00:05:10,788 --> 00:05:13,356 was like some sort of exercise in calisthenics. 96 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,662 You know, people stretching 97 00:05:14,705 --> 00:05:17,665 and there wasn't very much athleticism to it. 98 00:05:17,708 --> 00:05:21,451 - [Rick] George Ireland was losing, teams weren't very good. 99 00:05:21,495 --> 00:05:26,413 We're playing staid, feet-in-the-mud-in-concrete basketball. 100 00:05:26,456 --> 00:05:27,936 And it's time to change. 101 00:05:27,979 --> 00:05:30,895 These black players were changing the game 102 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:34,072 and they were making it so exciting. 103 00:05:34,116 --> 00:05:39,121 - This was a time when superstars were heavily recruited. 104 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:41,645 [bright upbeat music continues] 105 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:44,474 Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, 106 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:46,346 everybody knew who these guys were, 107 00:05:46,389 --> 00:05:48,522 a lot of coaches wanted them. 108 00:05:48,565 --> 00:05:51,829 But for the next tier of players down, 109 00:05:51,873 --> 00:05:55,398 black guys who were merely excellent basketball players, 110 00:05:55,442 --> 00:05:57,574 nobody wanted them. 111 00:05:57,618 --> 00:05:59,837 - For the black athlete, the landscape 112 00:05:59,881 --> 00:06:02,231 of these kids playing on university campuses 113 00:06:02,274 --> 00:06:04,668 or in the NBA just wasn't there. 114 00:06:04,712 --> 00:06:07,497 George Ireland was thinking about job security. 115 00:06:07,541 --> 00:06:10,282 He just wanted to win and he didn't care who you were. 116 00:06:11,283 --> 00:06:15,287 [bright upbeat music continues] 117 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:20,858 - My father, Jerry Harkness, was born in Harlem, New York. 118 00:06:20,902 --> 00:06:25,907 And he lived in very harsh conditions in the projects. 119 00:06:26,951 --> 00:06:29,563 He's ultra competitive, and I've always wondered 120 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:32,522 where did that competitive drive come from? 121 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:33,697 The resilience? 122 00:06:34,742 --> 00:06:36,787 - [Lucas] As a child in the 1940s, 123 00:06:36,831 --> 00:06:38,441 Jerry remembers his own father 124 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:41,357 returning home from the war a hero. 125 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:43,620 But the fanfare faded, and soon 126 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:46,449 he was just a young black man trying to build a life. 127 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:49,931 - He did everything to try to get work. 128 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:52,716 The more Italian and Irish come in, 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,023 the less work he would have. 130 00:06:55,066 --> 00:07:00,071 He could not take that pressure and he left us. 131 00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:03,988 My mom was a go-getter, 132 00:07:04,032 --> 00:07:07,644 and she pretty much had to be when my dad left. 133 00:07:07,688 --> 00:07:12,693 And I could see her really trying to keep it all together. 134 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,437 - [Lucas] The financial stress was overwhelming. 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,483 At one point, his mother had a mental breakdown 136 00:07:20,527 --> 00:07:23,094 and admitted herself into Bellevue Hospital. 137 00:07:24,531 --> 00:07:28,230 - When she got out, I looked her in the eyes. 138 00:07:28,273 --> 00:07:31,146 I knew that we were gonna be all right. 139 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:34,018 She said, "I'm gonna get a job, we're gonna make it. 140 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:38,327 We're not gonna depend on anybody but the three of us." 141 00:07:40,895 --> 00:07:44,289 To see her go through what she went through, 142 00:07:44,333 --> 00:07:49,338 I said, "If she can do things like that, I can make it." 143 00:07:49,643 --> 00:07:51,166 [solemn music] 144 00:07:51,209 --> 00:07:53,124 - [Lucas] Young Jerry loved playing basketball 145 00:07:53,168 --> 00:07:55,518 on the streets of Harlem, but he never figured 146 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:58,695 he was good enough to make his high school team. 147 00:07:58,739 --> 00:08:00,784 To him, the game was an escape. 148 00:08:02,656 --> 00:08:04,135 And when he'd save up a quarter, 149 00:08:04,179 --> 00:08:06,311 he'd go practice alone at the Y. 150 00:08:06,355 --> 00:08:08,836 [basketball thudding] 151 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:12,927 - I could still see myself bouncing back and forth, 152 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:15,146 and then going up for the shot, 153 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:17,888 saying "Good, we win." 154 00:08:19,803 --> 00:08:22,980 All of a sudden, a guy hit me on my shoulder, 155 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:26,201 and he said, "Hey, you're pretty good." 156 00:08:27,681 --> 00:08:30,814 My eyes got wide, my mouth jumped open. 157 00:08:31,989 --> 00:08:36,777 It was my hero, [spectators cheering] 158 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:38,082 Jackie Robinson. 159 00:08:39,780 --> 00:08:44,785 So when a guy like that tells me I'm not that bad, 160 00:08:45,568 --> 00:08:47,570 maybe he's right. 161 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:50,660 I said, "I'm going out for the team." 162 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:54,621 My coach, he asked me, "Are you set for college?" 163 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:56,710 I said, "No, I don't have any offer." 164 00:08:56,753 --> 00:08:59,669 He said, "We're gonna work on that." 165 00:08:59,713 --> 00:09:01,889 George Ireland was coming up to Harlem 166 00:09:01,932 --> 00:09:03,543 to watch the ball players. 167 00:09:03,586 --> 00:09:06,763 My coach told him, "There's a guy here 168 00:09:06,807 --> 00:09:08,765 that doesn't have the recognition 169 00:09:08,809 --> 00:09:12,595 the other players have because he only played one year. 170 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:14,292 Why don't you give him a chance?" 171 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:19,210 So I was trying to impress this guy 172 00:09:20,081 --> 00:09:23,084 like he was the man that had my future, 173 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:26,304 because this was pretty much my last chance. 174 00:09:27,654 --> 00:09:30,178 If I don't get this, I'm finished. 175 00:09:33,007 --> 00:09:36,097 - [John] And that was the beginning of Jerry Harkness. 176 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:37,881 - [Lucas] With Jerry joining the Ramblers, 177 00:09:37,925 --> 00:09:41,450 Coach Ireland developed a whole new vision for his team. 178 00:09:41,493 --> 00:09:45,106 - Jerry was a speedster. 179 00:09:45,149 --> 00:09:47,412 - My father was a great track athlete 180 00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:49,893 prior to becoming a basketball player. 181 00:09:49,937 --> 00:09:52,853 - [John] We had to run two miles every day before practice 182 00:09:52,896 --> 00:09:56,683 because of Harkness, because he loved running. 183 00:09:56,726 --> 00:10:00,643 - I remember one coach said, "Put the ball on the floor. 184 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:04,995 Now pick it up. Jerry Harkness just scored a bucket." 185 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:07,215 - Jerry was kind of in command. 186 00:10:07,258 --> 00:10:10,479 You could see the growth that was happening. 187 00:10:10,522 --> 00:10:12,481 - [Ron] And that was the best season he had had 188 00:10:12,524 --> 00:10:15,658 in about five or six years, that saved him. 189 00:10:16,703 --> 00:10:18,269 And then we came along. 190 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:22,926 - Ireland took me to a St. Rita's game. 191 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:24,667 And I'm looking at the game and I said, 192 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:26,669 "I know why he got me here." 193 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:31,108 He didn't tell me who he was scouting, 194 00:10:31,152 --> 00:10:33,458 but I was looking at these brothers, 195 00:10:33,502 --> 00:10:35,156 the center and the forward. 196 00:10:35,199 --> 00:10:38,899 They were 6-10, they were tough. 197 00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:41,205 At the end of the game, he said, 198 00:10:41,249 --> 00:10:43,860 "What did you think of the little guard?" 199 00:10:43,904 --> 00:10:45,949 [upbeat music] 200 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:48,648 - I was from St. Rita's high school, born in Chicago. 201 00:10:48,691 --> 00:10:52,303 I loved basketball because I was good at it. 202 00:10:52,347 --> 00:10:56,133 - I said to myself, "This guy's not a ball player." 203 00:10:56,177 --> 00:10:58,092 I was wrong about that. 204 00:10:58,135 --> 00:10:59,920 - [Jerald] Don't let Jack Egan's size fool you. 205 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:01,791 He's incredibly athletic. 206 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:04,489 - Jack Egan is no nonsense. 207 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:08,102 He knows what he wants and he is going to get it. 208 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:09,277 - [Jack] And it's important 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,672 that you are not gonna be intimidated. 210 00:11:12,715 --> 00:11:15,718 I needed some physical contact with the other team 211 00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:17,589 even though it was basketball. 212 00:11:17,633 --> 00:11:20,157 I think I was fouled more often than anybody else. 213 00:11:22,638 --> 00:11:24,074 - Les Hunter and Vic Rouse 214 00:11:24,118 --> 00:11:26,729 both came from Nashville, Tennessee. 215 00:11:26,773 --> 00:11:30,864 I've heard Vic and Les be referred to as a package deal. 216 00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:34,041 - Mr. Ireland did not recruit Les Hunter, 217 00:11:34,084 --> 00:11:36,434 he recruited Vic Rouse. 218 00:11:36,478 --> 00:11:40,395 Vic Rouse said to him, "If I come to your school, 219 00:11:40,438 --> 00:11:42,223 can Les come with us?" 220 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:43,746 He said, "Of course." 221 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:46,488 He didn't realize he had a diamond. 222 00:11:46,531 --> 00:11:47,968 - [Jack] Les Hunter may have been 223 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:50,666 the most talented player on the team. 224 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,624 - [Jerald] Vic and Les were the bigs. 225 00:11:52,668 --> 00:11:56,150 They brought that menacing athletic height. 226 00:11:56,193 --> 00:11:58,587 [upbeat music] 227 00:11:58,630 --> 00:12:00,632 Ronnie Miller came from New York, 228 00:12:00,676 --> 00:12:03,548 a very similar area that my father came from. 229 00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:05,855 - When coach met my mother the first time, 230 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:07,770 he completely ignored me. 231 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:10,033 He promised that any kid that went to his school 232 00:12:10,077 --> 00:12:11,992 for four years would graduate. 233 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:14,995 - George Ireland gave his sales pitch to the parents, 234 00:12:15,038 --> 00:12:16,344 not to the kid. 235 00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:18,259 The kid's looking to play big time basketball, 236 00:12:18,302 --> 00:12:21,479 he probably wasn't gonna go to Loyola University. 237 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:23,351 - [Ron] I was probably the best defensive player 238 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:25,179 on the team, so I could guard someone 239 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:27,747 that was bigger than me. 240 00:12:29,270 --> 00:12:34,231 - [Rich] You had a group of extremely talented freshmen. 241 00:12:34,841 --> 00:12:36,103 - [Jack] I had never played 242 00:12:36,146 --> 00:12:39,889 with such talented players before in my life. 243 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:42,762 - [Rich] I knew we had something special. 244 00:12:45,373 --> 00:12:48,115 - We lost one game as freshmen. 245 00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:51,683 And the word kinda spread throughout college basketball 246 00:12:51,727 --> 00:12:54,077 that Loyola had this excellent freshmen class. 247 00:12:57,864 --> 00:12:59,604 Well, we move up to the varsity, 248 00:13:00,518 --> 00:13:03,043 the reality of big-time basketball 249 00:13:03,086 --> 00:13:05,306 kinda hit me in the face for the first time. 250 00:13:06,742 --> 00:13:08,831 - [Gary] There was an unwritten rule 251 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:11,181 that racialized who played. 252 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:15,838 - How many black players can be played 253 00:13:15,882 --> 00:13:17,797 on the court at one time? 254 00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:22,105 One at home, two when you're away, 255 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,759 and three when you're in a pinch, 256 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:26,153 you need that little extra oomph. 257 00:13:26,196 --> 00:13:28,851 And it's not written anywhere. 258 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:31,680 It's just kind of what the coaches knew. 259 00:13:31,723 --> 00:13:33,290 - [Michael] The coaches, if they didn't 260 00:13:33,334 --> 00:13:35,292 wanna put black players on the floor, 261 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:38,687 they wouldn't have recruited them to begin with. 262 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:43,735 But American higher education was overwhelmingly segregated. 263 00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:48,436 Your student body is 98% white, 264 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:51,526 the faculty is 99% white, 265 00:13:51,569 --> 00:13:55,095 the alumni are 99 1/2% white. 266 00:13:55,138 --> 00:13:58,011 How many black guys can you put on the floor 267 00:13:58,054 --> 00:14:01,014 to represent this lily white institution 268 00:14:01,057 --> 00:14:04,974 before you're gonna run into blowback? 269 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:06,889 How far could they go? 270 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:09,022 - I value my job, I value my reputation, 271 00:14:09,065 --> 00:14:12,112 so I'm not going to push the system. 272 00:14:12,155 --> 00:14:13,461 I wonder how many coaches 273 00:14:13,504 --> 00:14:16,159 were just simply complying with the status quo. 274 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,814 - [Lucas] Coach Ireland was careful. 275 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:21,121 He'd bend the rule, but never break it. 276 00:14:22,252 --> 00:14:25,473 He consistently played three black starters at a time, 277 00:14:25,516 --> 00:14:29,085 but fearing the reaction of fans and university donors, 278 00:14:29,129 --> 00:14:30,521 he never played a fourth. 279 00:14:31,958 --> 00:14:34,917 - [Ron] How George Ireland played us was when Jerry 280 00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,180 or Les Hunter would be in foul trouble, 281 00:14:37,224 --> 00:14:39,487 or needed a break, I would go in for one of them. 282 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:43,012 So I played, but I was not allowed to start. 283 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:45,449 And he'd follow that the whole year. 284 00:14:45,493 --> 00:14:46,711 - These athletes were marginalized 285 00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:47,974 and they didn't have the same privileges 286 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,845 as their white teammates did. 287 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,325 And it was openly practiced. 288 00:14:51,368 --> 00:14:54,502 It was openly practiced, and we didn't have any laws 289 00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:57,331 to protect individuals from this kind of behavior. 290 00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,726 In the North, Jim Crow segregation was practiced, 291 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:05,513 it was an unspoken rule, but not the law. 292 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:07,776 But Jim Crow was the law in the South. 293 00:15:09,517 --> 00:15:13,521 - My absolute and unshakeable stance 294 00:15:13,564 --> 00:15:16,828 for segregation of the races at all levels. 295 00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:19,919 [audience clapping] 296 00:15:19,962 --> 00:15:22,704 - [Michael] Ross Barnett was the governor of Mississippi 297 00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:25,881 at the time, rabid segregationist. 298 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:27,361 - You gotta understand, Mississippi 299 00:15:27,404 --> 00:15:29,319 was incredibly racially volatile. 300 00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:32,540 If you even suggested something 301 00:15:32,583 --> 00:15:36,631 that included integration, it could be life-threatening. 302 00:15:36,674 --> 00:15:37,980 It was that bad. 303 00:15:39,025 --> 00:15:40,852 - [Lucas] In his fight to preserve segregation 304 00:15:40,896 --> 00:15:43,377 in the early 1960s, Governor Barnett 305 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:45,814 made a special target out of state sports, 306 00:15:45,857 --> 00:15:49,949 denouncing any competition between white and black athletes. 307 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:51,907 One team falling under his rule 308 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,865 were the Mississippi State Bulldogs, 309 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:55,650 led by Coach Babe McCarthy. 310 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:58,653 For three of the previous four seasons, 311 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:01,351 Mississippi State won the SEC Championship, 312 00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:03,614 earning a spot in the NCAA tournament. 313 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:07,009 And each time, Coach McCarthy did as he was told 314 00:16:07,053 --> 00:16:09,316 by the Governor and turned it down. 315 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,884 - We grew up doing what we were told to do. 316 00:16:12,928 --> 00:16:15,017 To not be able to go to the tournament, 317 00:16:15,061 --> 00:16:18,586 the attitude of some of the guys was, why do we even play? 318 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:20,457 We only wanted to go for one reason, 319 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:23,721 and that was to compete and be the best we could be. 320 00:16:23,765 --> 00:16:25,941 - When you think about Mississippi, 321 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:29,075 you have to remember that the world was different. 322 00:16:29,118 --> 00:16:30,990 The country was different. 323 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:35,429 And we had to deal with things differently. 324 00:16:35,472 --> 00:16:40,521 Racism in sports was not a new thing, 325 00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:44,481 it was a part of the life that we lived. 326 00:16:46,657 --> 00:16:49,660 - In 2001, I was a grad student at Loyola 327 00:16:49,704 --> 00:16:53,882 as a oral historian, and I started talking to the players, 328 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:56,711 and I started hearing about their experiences. 329 00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:58,713 And I tied that into the context 330 00:16:58,756 --> 00:17:00,410 of what was happening in Chicago, 331 00:17:00,454 --> 00:17:02,673 because Chicago was then and is now, 332 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:04,675 quite a segregated city. 333 00:17:04,719 --> 00:17:06,460 What was it like for these guys? 334 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:11,508 - One of the most surprising things that I have found out, 335 00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:14,816 is things that were going on in the minds of my teammates 336 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:18,515 that I did not know was going on in their mind then. 337 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,388 In particular, someone who I'm very close to, 338 00:17:21,431 --> 00:17:22,563 Jerry Harkness. 339 00:17:23,868 --> 00:17:28,047 When I first met him, he was very standoffish. 340 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:33,313 For more than a year, we had no relationship 341 00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:35,880 other than on the basketball court. 342 00:17:35,924 --> 00:17:39,101 If he was in the locker room, I wouldn't acknowledge him. 343 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:42,191 - Jack Egan actually played my mother's high school 344 00:17:42,235 --> 00:17:44,628 in basketball, which was a black team. 345 00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:49,677 And the kids from St. Rita treated my mom's school terribly. 346 00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:53,942 - [Jerry] She told me that St. Rita's was racist 347 00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:57,076 and they would throw garbage cans at you. 348 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,470 I just drew a conclusion on him early on. 349 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:05,127 - [Jack] I grew up in a neighborhood that was all white. 350 00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:09,175 It was mostly Irish, Polish and Italian. 351 00:18:09,218 --> 00:18:11,786 - Marquette Park was known as the neighborhood 352 00:18:11,829 --> 00:18:16,617 that most vehemently resisted the housing initiatives 353 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:20,142 that Martin Luther King came to Chicago to promote. 354 00:18:21,056 --> 00:18:23,276 It was a place where blacks were not welcome. 355 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:26,279 You could be chased down and even beaten. 356 00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:28,455 - [Martin] I've been in many demonstrations 357 00:18:28,498 --> 00:18:31,719 all across the South, but I can say 358 00:18:31,762 --> 00:18:33,503 that I have never seen, 359 00:18:33,547 --> 00:18:35,201 even in Mississippi and Alabama, 360 00:18:35,244 --> 00:18:39,118 mobs as hostile and as hate-filled 361 00:18:39,161 --> 00:18:40,815 as I'm seeing in Chicago. 362 00:18:42,469 --> 00:18:45,733 - When I would go home from Loyola University 363 00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:48,562 to go back to my neighborhood on the Southside, 364 00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:51,869 a lot of my friends had the same kind of notion 365 00:18:51,913 --> 00:18:56,222 that the black players on the team needed me 366 00:18:56,265 --> 00:18:59,529 because I was the brains of the outfit. 367 00:18:59,573 --> 00:19:02,358 You know who is? Les Hunter. 368 00:19:03,446 --> 00:19:06,797 - There's always been stereotypes about black athletes 369 00:19:06,841 --> 00:19:11,454 that they are all athlete, very little smarts. 370 00:19:11,498 --> 00:19:13,587 - African American players were described 371 00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:18,069 as tremendous athletes, you know, a physical specimen. 372 00:19:18,113 --> 00:19:19,506 Whereas a lot of the white players 373 00:19:19,549 --> 00:19:23,336 were described as crafty, smart. 374 00:19:23,379 --> 00:19:26,077 You didn't have to be that aware to know 375 00:19:26,121 --> 00:19:27,949 what they were trying to say. 376 00:19:27,992 --> 00:19:30,865 [solemn music] 377 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:33,215 - [Lucas] Of all the players at the center of this story, 378 00:19:33,259 --> 00:19:36,087 I never had the chance to meet Les Hunter or Vic Rouse. 379 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:40,701 Vic died in 1999 and Les passed away 380 00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:42,268 during the making of this film. 381 00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:47,751 In many ways, Les and Vic embodied Loyola at their best. 382 00:19:47,795 --> 00:19:52,016 Les was the team's top player and Vic was their top student. 383 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:55,019 And when Les missed a shot, Vic was there to tip it in. 384 00:19:55,977 --> 00:19:58,719 For me, team chemistry is everything, 385 00:19:58,762 --> 00:20:00,764 but you have to earn that trust. 386 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:04,333 That was true for Jack and Jerry, but in Les and Vic, 387 00:20:04,377 --> 00:20:06,640 the Ramblers always had an example to follow. 388 00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:15,170 - [Rich] The program had been under fire. 389 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:20,219 I saw an opportunity to be a part of the resurgence. 390 00:20:21,307 --> 00:20:23,918 You have Loyola that no one 391 00:20:23,961 --> 00:20:27,443 had ever paid attention to before. 392 00:20:27,487 --> 00:20:30,881 If we're going to compete nationally, 393 00:20:30,925 --> 00:20:34,668 what we have to do is get past race. 394 00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:38,106 - We weren't ranked, we weren't a team 395 00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:39,673 that people were looking at. 396 00:20:39,716 --> 00:20:41,022 We were an independent school, 397 00:20:41,065 --> 00:20:44,982 so we weren't the preseason pick for anything. 398 00:20:46,027 --> 00:20:48,725 - [Lucas] In the 1961, '62 season, 399 00:20:48,769 --> 00:20:52,251 Ireland no longer had to rely on Jerry's speed alone. 400 00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:54,296 Now, his whole team could run. 401 00:20:55,428 --> 00:20:57,778 - [Ron] Almost immediately we developed this style 402 00:20:57,821 --> 00:21:02,261 of a rebound, a pass and a basket. 403 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:07,004 - Get down and score before the defense 404 00:21:07,048 --> 00:21:09,268 had a chance to set up. 405 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:10,312 That's all it was. 406 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:13,533 And that's run-and-gun basketball. 407 00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:15,883 [bright music] 408 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:20,148 - Ireland believed in playing his starters a long time. 409 00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:23,586 - [Michael] In the '61, '62 season, the team consisted 410 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:26,763 of Egan, and a guy named Mike Gavin, Jerry Harkness, 411 00:21:26,807 --> 00:21:28,504 Les Hunter and Vic Rouse. 412 00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:31,638 Ireland's coaching style with that team 413 00:21:31,681 --> 00:21:35,206 was just standing aside and letting them run. 414 00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:39,428 His genius as a coach was to just let them play their game. 415 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:42,083 [upbeat music] 416 00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:46,348 - [Ron] In the pros they call it a motion offense, 417 00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:48,219 where someone is always moving. 418 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:50,961 If you didn't stay with us, 419 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:52,528 we would score an easy basket. 420 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:11,895 - The Ramblers had some games in the South 421 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:16,770 and they ran into some of the hard truths 422 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,642 of US race relations. 423 00:22:19,686 --> 00:22:21,775 - [Ron] The famous trip to New Orleans 424 00:22:21,818 --> 00:22:23,864 where George Ireland, at the last minute, 425 00:22:23,907 --> 00:22:25,474 told us that we would not be able 426 00:22:25,518 --> 00:22:27,694 to stay together as a team. 427 00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:31,698 - [Rich] The black ball players stayed in Algiers 428 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:35,441 in private homes, while the white players 429 00:22:35,484 --> 00:22:39,314 stayed in New Orleans in hotels. 430 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,838 - And he said he didn't know about it 431 00:22:41,882 --> 00:22:43,187 until the last minute. 432 00:22:44,885 --> 00:22:46,234 And I never believed that. 433 00:22:47,104 --> 00:22:49,672 [somber music] 434 00:22:51,108 --> 00:22:54,024 We land in New Orleans and the black guys, 435 00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:56,200 all of us jump into a cab. 436 00:22:56,244 --> 00:22:58,768 And Ireland gets in the cab with us. 437 00:22:58,812 --> 00:23:01,423 And it was a black driver, and he said, 438 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:03,947 "Sir, you're gonna have to get out of my cab. 439 00:23:03,991 --> 00:23:06,515 It's against the law for a white person 440 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,083 to drive in a cab with black people." 441 00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:11,259 And Ireland said, "Well, I'll pay the fine 442 00:23:11,302 --> 00:23:13,130 if you get stopped." 443 00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:15,655 Driver said, "You don't understand. 444 00:23:15,698 --> 00:23:18,266 It's not the fine, I will go to jail." 445 00:23:19,528 --> 00:23:23,445 That's how bad it was in 1962. 446 00:23:23,489 --> 00:23:26,361 - [Rich] When we played Loyola of New Orleans, 447 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,102 the shock hit us. 448 00:23:28,145 --> 00:23:32,062 They had a roped-off section for coloreds. 449 00:23:32,106 --> 00:23:33,934 - [Ron] You couldn't talk back, you couldn't fight back, 450 00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:36,458 there was nothing you could do about it. 451 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:39,243 - [Rich] But you could express that anger 452 00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:44,205 by taking it out on the other squad. 453 00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:46,816 [upbeat music] 454 00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:57,523 The court was an equalizer. 455 00:23:57,566 --> 00:24:01,135 - After the game, the black players went off to Algiers. 456 00:24:01,178 --> 00:24:04,573 And I can honestly say, that was by far 457 00:24:04,617 --> 00:24:07,228 the best trip that we had. 458 00:24:07,271 --> 00:24:09,535 We had no curfew, parties at night, 459 00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:12,363 and the people in the community were so proud of us, 460 00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:13,974 they treated us like kings. 461 00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:18,065 - [Rich] They sent us two brand new Pontiacs to drive. 462 00:24:18,108 --> 00:24:22,504 We had a great time, and we felt so sorry 463 00:24:22,548 --> 00:24:24,114 for the white guys. 464 00:24:24,158 --> 00:24:25,376 - [Ron] But in contrast, 465 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:28,031 what it took us to get to that point. 466 00:24:28,075 --> 00:24:31,774 I felt offended by some of the things that occurred. 467 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,084 - [Lucas] After the game, Ireland made headlines 468 00:24:37,127 --> 00:24:39,434 denouncing New Orleans' segregation laws, 469 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:41,697 vowing that the team would never return. 470 00:24:42,568 --> 00:24:45,745 But just a day later, the truth came out. 471 00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:48,835 Prior to Loyola's trip, another school in New Orleans, 472 00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:52,142 Xavier University, offered to house the entire team. 473 00:24:53,404 --> 00:24:56,059 This rare break from the Jim Crow laws governing the city 474 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,627 would have allowed all the white and black players 475 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,194 to stay together as usual. 476 00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:03,458 But for reasons that were never made clear, 477 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:06,026 Ireland declined, and chose instead 478 00:25:06,069 --> 00:25:07,549 to keep the team segregated. 479 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:11,422 When I heard this story from the players, 480 00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:12,554 I couldn't believe it. 481 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:15,775 It's crazy to me that any coach would choose 482 00:25:15,818 --> 00:25:18,734 to separate their team anywhere for any reason. 483 00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:23,043 It's not just unsafe, it's bad strategy. 484 00:25:23,086 --> 00:25:24,566 Your team is your family. 485 00:25:26,176 --> 00:25:30,180 - We had to deal not only with the racism 486 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:33,532 of the South when we would travel down there, 487 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:35,055 we also had to deal with it 488 00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:38,711 to some degree right here at our home court. 489 00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,365 [solemn music] 490 00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:45,544 - [Jerald] When you think about the Loyola story, 491 00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:50,549 you inevitably come to a very complex topic. 492 00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,424 - We all kinda knew our place. 493 00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,339 It doesn't sound right when you say that, 494 00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:00,646 it sounds terrible when you say that. 495 00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:04,040 I just mean that as people, we kinda knew 496 00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,129 what we had to do to survive. 497 00:26:07,174 --> 00:26:12,135 - They wanted us to be available as tokens. 498 00:26:13,223 --> 00:26:16,400 For example, if they had a party on campus, 499 00:26:16,444 --> 00:26:19,012 they wanted us to stand on the walls, 500 00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:20,753 you know, and be there. 501 00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:23,190 But we weren't supposed to dance with the girls, 502 00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:25,496 we weren't supposed to talk with the girls. 503 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:29,239 And if they come to us and ask us to dance, 504 00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:31,502 we even had Jesuit priests who said, 505 00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:33,330 "No, you don't do that." 506 00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:35,724 [solemn music continues] 507 00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:39,075 - The priests had a job and part of their job 508 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,644 was making sure the students were safe. 509 00:26:42,688 --> 00:26:46,430 And unfortunately the black male body 510 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:50,521 has often been considered, just by existing, unsafe. 511 00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:54,917 - [Lucas] I guess I expected to hear 512 00:26:54,961 --> 00:26:57,877 the '63 guys faced discrimination when traveling south, 513 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,314 or maybe even on the court by opponents, 514 00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,795 but to know that they were also disrespected at home 515 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,579 makes me furious. 516 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,494 And on a call between our two teams, 517 00:27:06,537 --> 00:27:08,670 we got an opportunity to talk about it. 518 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:12,152 - Then I remember, and the other guys will remember this, 519 00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:15,677 we could not go to the barber shop 520 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:18,375 right across Sheridan Road. 521 00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:21,422 They would not cut black guys' hair. 522 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,293 - You couldn't get a haircut on campus? 523 00:27:23,337 --> 00:27:26,383 Like, you had to go somewhere else to get a haircut? 524 00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:29,952 - I guess again, I was blind to what they were experiencing. 525 00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:32,346 Just assumed everything was great. 526 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:37,090 - In the '60s, we didn't express ourselves. 527 00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,093 'Cause I really don't think we knew how to talk about it. 528 00:27:40,136 --> 00:27:42,835 - You know, the average person might look at it and say, 529 00:27:42,878 --> 00:27:45,185 "That's not, that's not racism." 530 00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:47,056 But it is. 531 00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:50,843 - They're going to have to swallow their discontent. 532 00:27:50,886 --> 00:27:52,671 They're going to have to swallow their hurts. 533 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:55,325 Because the moment they start making waves, 534 00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:57,458 the moment they start asking for things 535 00:27:57,501 --> 00:28:01,070 that they know they should have, they're no longer 536 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,943 just these wonderfully respectable young men 537 00:28:03,986 --> 00:28:07,033 that we would be so happy to have amongst us. 538 00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:09,992 There was a mold that they needed to fit. 539 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,734 Not the angry team, not the frustrated, 540 00:28:12,778 --> 00:28:16,912 they were classy, and oh look, how acceptable they are. 541 00:28:18,522 --> 00:28:22,396 That might be why they're not loud and they're not vocal. 542 00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:27,967 - It makes you feel completely isolated. 543 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:32,667 It is a very hard thing to face. 544 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,670 What you say is nothing, what you think is nothing. 545 00:28:36,932 --> 00:28:40,631 That's what it feels like to be discriminated against. 546 00:28:40,675 --> 00:28:43,722 You're invisible, you don't exist. 547 00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:46,986 You don't exist. 548 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,209 - Toward the end of the season, 549 00:28:53,253 --> 00:28:54,776 Ron Miller began playing 550 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,996 a more prominent role on the team. 551 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,520 He was scoring a lot, and at one point, 552 00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,827 Ireland pulled him aside to tell him 553 00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:03,393 why he wasn't starting. 554 00:29:03,437 --> 00:29:05,439 And he didn't really tell him, he said, 555 00:29:05,482 --> 00:29:08,268 "But you know, you understand what it is." 556 00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:09,922 And Miller did understand. 557 00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:14,448 Ireland didn't wanna have the fourth black guy on the court. 558 00:29:14,491 --> 00:29:17,016 - It was so obvious to everyone around the team 559 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,582 and everyone at Loyola, 560 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:22,543 that we should have had four blacks starting. 561 00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:24,980 You keep in mind, I'm coming off the bench 562 00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,895 and I was averaging double figures. 563 00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:31,813 So that tells you that maybe, I should have been starting. 564 00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:33,946 - [Rich] The one white boy that he was starting 565 00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:38,602 over Ron Miller had no business starting. 566 00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:41,780 And he knew it and every boy knew it. 567 00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:46,175 - [Lucas] In 1962, Loyola went 21 and 3, 568 00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:48,656 earning a bid to the National Invitation Tournament 569 00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,658 at Madison Square Garden in New York. 570 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:54,053 With two Harlem natives on his team, 571 00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:55,489 Ireland saw an opportunity 572 00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:58,709 to lure the next generation of local recruits. 573 00:29:58,753 --> 00:30:01,800 - We had advanced to the semis playing Dayton. 574 00:30:02,713 --> 00:30:04,846 And what really surprised me 575 00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:08,632 was that Coach Ireland changed the lineup. 576 00:30:10,025 --> 00:30:11,505 - [Ron] He wanted to start me 577 00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,856 because he was recruiting heavy out of New York City. 578 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,336 Local papers made a big deal 579 00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:18,904 that I was coming back to Madison Square Garden. 580 00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:22,516 Two New York kids, me and Jerry Harkness. 581 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,431 - So he has to play Miller 582 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:28,130 and he has to play me because we're in New York. 583 00:30:28,174 --> 00:30:33,266 So he takes out 6-8, 6-9 Hunter. 584 00:30:33,309 --> 00:30:35,703 - [Michael] He brought Miller in for Les Hunter. 585 00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:37,879 Best ball player on the team. 586 00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,012 - [John] Dayton was a hell of a team. 587 00:30:40,055 --> 00:30:42,231 And we were getting beat up pretty bad. 588 00:30:43,145 --> 00:30:47,323 - Take out Les Hunter and we're smaller, much smaller. 589 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:50,152 It just put us in a bad situation. 590 00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:53,764 - [Lucas] Ron Miller was the Ramblers' high scorer 591 00:30:53,808 --> 00:30:56,942 in the game, but without Hunter in the lineup, 592 00:30:56,985 --> 00:30:59,292 Loyola was just outmatched. 593 00:30:59,335 --> 00:31:01,729 - [Ron] So we lost to them. 594 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:04,210 We had to play another game after that, 595 00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:06,081 which was a consolation game. 596 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:07,909 And we played Duquesne University, 597 00:31:07,953 --> 00:31:11,608 which was a very good basketball school in those days. 598 00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:12,871 - [Rich] And you have to remember 599 00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,917 that Mr. Ireland was in difficulty. 600 00:31:16,962 --> 00:31:19,573 He could not afford to lose. 601 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,882 - Ireland was not trying to be an activist. 602 00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:26,928 George Ireland was thinking about winning ball games. 603 00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:30,410 - And that was the game where Ireland chose 604 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,326 not to play the senior, Mike Gavin, 605 00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:37,025 and inserted Ron Miller as the other guard. 606 00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:41,334 - [Jerry] He put the best team on the court. 607 00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:45,729 - [Gary] He broke the code. 608 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,993 [dramatic music] 609 00:31:48,036 --> 00:31:52,823 - When we won the consolation game, from there on, 610 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,695 he played four black guys. 611 00:31:56,305 --> 00:31:59,526 - [Lucas] On that historic night, the Iron Five were born. 612 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,877 For the Loyola Ramblers, 613 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,140 there would be no turning back. 614 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:06,185 - [Interviewer] Let me ask you this, 615 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:08,622 do you ever get crank phone calls? 616 00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:13,627 - [Gertrude] Well, they criticize who he's got on his team. 617 00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:16,586 As you know he has a Negro ball club. 618 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:19,763 And we get letters on that. 619 00:32:19,807 --> 00:32:20,939 - [Interviewer] Well, that's terrible. 620 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:23,332 The rest of the world could take a cue 621 00:32:23,376 --> 00:32:25,726 from on integration is how well these kids get along 622 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:26,988 together on the basketball court. 623 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:28,250 - [Gertrude] That's right. 624 00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:31,123 - [Lucas] With his new starting five set 625 00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,822 for the 1962, '63 season, there was plenty of fallout 626 00:32:34,865 --> 00:32:36,867 for George Ireland and his family. 627 00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:38,913 But with his eyes on a national title, 628 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,002 the coach had come too far to turn back. 629 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:45,311 Meanwhile, there was another team down south 630 00:32:45,354 --> 00:32:46,790 with their eyes on the title. 631 00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:51,230 - I was always fascinated about the psychology 632 00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:53,841 of the Mississippi State basketball team. 633 00:32:53,884 --> 00:32:55,451 You're feeling a lot of pressure 634 00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:58,454 if your programs aren't performing well, if you're losing. 635 00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:01,109 The irony is that Mississippi State was winning. 636 00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:04,547 And the more they won, the more pressure they faced. 637 00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:06,985 - Our governor in particular just didn't think 638 00:33:07,028 --> 00:33:09,509 we ought to be playing against black players. 639 00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:12,120 We never imagined that we would get to go 640 00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,080 to the NCAA tournament in '63. 641 00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:16,995 - Young people are often a product 642 00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:20,781 of a dysfunctional situation, taught things 643 00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,652 that they shouldn't be taught. 644 00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:25,873 And it's not until they actually experience 645 00:33:25,916 --> 00:33:28,441 a different set of circumstances 646 00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:31,313 that they can appreciate what should be. 647 00:33:32,358 --> 00:33:34,925 - [Lucas] In Mississippi, if you opposed Governor Barnett 648 00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:36,971 and the racism of Jim Crow laws, 649 00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:39,974 you were all but guaranteed a prison sentence. 650 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:41,280 Or maybe even worse, 651 00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:43,282 with the state's long history of lynchings. 652 00:33:45,806 --> 00:33:48,069 But despite those very real threats, 653 00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:51,072 just 100 miles from the Mississippi State campus, 654 00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:54,641 there was someone still brave enough to fight back. 655 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,295 - [Reporter] The enrollment of James Meredith, 656 00:33:56,338 --> 00:33:58,253 the first African American to attend 657 00:33:58,297 --> 00:34:00,951 on the campus of Ole Miss. 658 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:04,303 That night a riot broke out, hundreds were injured. 659 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:05,521 Two people died 660 00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:08,176 as protesters tried to stop a black man 661 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:11,353 from attending a tax-supported state school. 662 00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:14,922 - James Meredith, who was a Mississippi native 663 00:34:14,965 --> 00:34:17,533 and a veteran, applied to enter 664 00:34:17,577 --> 00:34:19,970 the University of Mississippi, Ole Miss. 665 00:34:20,014 --> 00:34:21,494 Ross Barnett said 666 00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:25,541 that Meredith would enter Ole Miss over his dead body. 667 00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:29,502 - His admission caused a riot of such magnitude, 668 00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:32,505 the president called out National Guard troops 669 00:34:32,548 --> 00:34:34,246 to come put the riot down. 670 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,118 - [Reporter] Immediately following the mass panic, 671 00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,425 the college infirmary was besieged 672 00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:43,081 with injured persons, officers and students. 673 00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:44,560 - People died. 674 00:34:44,604 --> 00:34:46,693 It's hard to believe that ever happened, 675 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,999 but it damn sure did. 676 00:34:50,523 --> 00:34:52,612 - [Lucas] As the dust settled after the riots, 677 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,832 James Meredith successfully enrolled at Ole Miss. 678 00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:57,660 Another small piece of progress 679 00:34:57,704 --> 00:34:59,445 in the Civil Rights Movement. 680 00:34:59,488 --> 00:35:01,621 And while figures like Babe McCarthy were left 681 00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:04,189 to grapple with what it meant on his campus, 682 00:35:04,232 --> 00:35:07,409 back in Chicago, they were listening too. 683 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,063 - [Rich] Things were starting to change, 684 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:10,934 but not rapidly enough. 685 00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:17,245 We would sit up in my room around this radio, 686 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:20,770 listening and cheering for people 687 00:35:20,814 --> 00:35:24,122 who were doing things to make a difference. 688 00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:25,340 - We were in the middle 689 00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:28,300 of the Civil Rights Movement and Dr. King. 690 00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:30,911 The emphasis was put on them, 691 00:35:30,954 --> 00:35:34,828 but we in the background were making changes too. 692 00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:36,221 [upbeat music] 693 00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:38,658 - We really started the season with, 694 00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:40,529 not just a good team, but a great team. 695 00:35:40,573 --> 00:35:44,751 We had seven guys who legitimately could start. 696 00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:46,144 - They were the highest scoring team 697 00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:47,362 in the country that year. 698 00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:49,190 They knew exactly what the next step 699 00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:51,410 of the other was going to be. 700 00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:54,239 - There was something electric that happened to us. 701 00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:58,591 We just knew that we were going to be very good. 702 00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,506 - [Jerald] They were bulldozing teams. 703 00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:02,203 No one could stop them. 704 00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:05,511 - In retaliation to all of this resistance, 705 00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:07,121 they ran up the scores. 706 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:11,343 Send a message, "We're good and we're good at what we do." 707 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:12,822 - [Mike] Is this the best team you've had 708 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:15,216 in your 12 years as Loyola coach? 709 00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:17,914 - [George] Well, Mike, I think this is my best team. 710 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:19,177 - [Mike] Well, there's no question about it, 711 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,004 you certainly do have an excellent team. 712 00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:23,790 In fact, you must be ranked second in the nation. 713 00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:25,357 George Ireland, how do you think 714 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,229 that your Loyola club would make out against Cincinnati? 715 00:36:28,273 --> 00:36:29,970 - [George] Well, that's a hard question. 716 00:36:30,013 --> 00:36:33,321 We are an offensive team and Cincinnati 717 00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:34,888 are a defensive team. 718 00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:36,629 I would like to play Cincinnati 719 00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:38,892 and possibly sometime we will. 720 00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:41,634 - For such a long period of time we knew 721 00:36:41,677 --> 00:36:44,376 that, somewhere along the way, we were going 722 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:47,944 to go up against Cincinnati. 723 00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:51,861 They were the big dogs, we were the underdogs. 724 00:36:51,905 --> 00:36:54,908 - Cincinnati had become a machine, a real machine, 725 00:36:54,951 --> 00:36:57,040 under the leadership of Ed Jucker. 726 00:36:57,084 --> 00:37:00,000 [gentle jaunty music] 727 00:37:00,043 --> 00:37:02,568 - Cincinnati was the complete opposite of Loyola. 728 00:37:02,611 --> 00:37:05,310 Cincinnati had won two championships 729 00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:08,791 with a very deliberate, slow-down pace. 730 00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:10,315 When you talk about a team 731 00:37:10,358 --> 00:37:12,926 that wanted to make four passes before they took a shot, 732 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:16,059 Cincinnati probably wanted to make six passes. 733 00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:18,453 Something that was not in our DNA at all. 734 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,977 - [Lucas] While Loyola was the fastest team 735 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:23,284 in college basketball, no one matched 736 00:37:23,328 --> 00:37:26,244 the slow, tactical pace of Cincinnati. 737 00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,639 At a time when more and more teams experimented 738 00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:33,686 with running the ball, Ed Jucker found success 739 00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:35,340 by doing just the opposite. 740 00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:37,429 - [David] Don't shoot unless you have a good shot. 741 00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:39,344 Hold the ball if you need to once in a while, 742 00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,563 that was before the days of shot clock. 743 00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:43,086 - [Michael] Everyone thought he was crazy 744 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:46,568 until he won his first NCAA Championship. 745 00:37:46,612 --> 00:37:49,963 They thought he was lucky until he won his second. 746 00:37:50,006 --> 00:37:53,183 [gentle upbeat music] 747 00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,840 - When they got ahead of you by 10 points, 748 00:37:57,884 --> 00:37:59,973 you were probably toast. 749 00:38:00,016 --> 00:38:02,280 - [Lucas] Combined with the talents of Tom Thacker, 750 00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:04,673 Ron Bonham and George Wilson, 751 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,328 Cincinnati was set to be the first-ever team 752 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,461 to win three consecutive titles. 753 00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:10,810 - We had the best record. 754 00:38:10,853 --> 00:38:12,202 I don't know what Loyola was, 755 00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:14,683 but they didn't win as many games as we did. 756 00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:17,033 - [Ron] I mean, Cincinnati was the monster. 757 00:38:17,077 --> 00:38:18,557 Why would you think that this small, 758 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,776 Catholic school could beat Cincinnati? 759 00:38:24,737 --> 00:38:27,043 - [Lucas] Out of everything I learned about this story, 760 00:38:27,087 --> 00:38:29,132 I was most surprised by Cincinnati. 761 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,353 Because for all the praise given to Ireland 762 00:38:32,397 --> 00:38:34,355 for breaking that unwritten rule, 763 00:38:34,399 --> 00:38:37,053 I didn't know that Ed Jucker broke it first, 764 00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:39,795 months before Ireland, winning a national championship 765 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,581 with four black starters in 1962. 766 00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:45,235 [gentle music] 767 00:38:47,977 --> 00:38:50,110 You might say it was easier for Cincinnati 768 00:38:50,153 --> 00:38:52,634 since they were already defending national champs. 769 00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:56,725 But I think it's more likely that four black starters 770 00:38:56,769 --> 00:39:00,076 with a slow, controlled game were less threatening 771 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,644 than Loyola's aggressive, fast-break players. 772 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:06,561 Whatever the explanation is, 773 00:39:06,605 --> 00:39:08,694 these two trailblazing teams seemed to be 774 00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:11,653 on a clear path to the championship. 775 00:39:13,307 --> 00:39:15,135 But the season was far from over, 776 00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:17,659 and Loyola's future was suddenly uncertain. 777 00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:22,882 - [Michael] Midway through the season, 778 00:39:22,925 --> 00:39:25,972 Loyola lost three players. 779 00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:29,062 One of them left for financial reasons. 780 00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:31,978 The other two were New York playground guys. 781 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:34,981 They didn't make grades, and would have gotten 782 00:39:35,024 --> 00:39:38,724 a lot of playing time had they stayed on the team. 783 00:39:39,942 --> 00:39:42,162 - Everyone was understandably shocked 784 00:39:42,205 --> 00:39:43,772 when all that happened at once. 785 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:47,210 We had nine players, that was it. 786 00:39:47,254 --> 00:39:51,084 It was so awkward just to have scrimmages 787 00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:53,216 and you have nine people. 788 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:55,436 - [Michael] Their absence is one of the reasons 789 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,440 that the five starters were playing virtually every minute. 790 00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:03,401 - [Lucas] The Iron Five were used to playing nonstop. 791 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:06,360 But now, even when Loyola took big leads, 792 00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:09,189 Ireland refused to give any of them a break. 793 00:40:09,232 --> 00:40:10,843 - Some of the games were complete blowouts. 794 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,627 We would still be playing, I mean, 795 00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:16,152 we'd be up by 15, 20 points, 796 00:40:16,196 --> 00:40:18,459 and he would still have all of us in the game. 797 00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:20,635 - We had a 30-point lead at halftime. 798 00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,422 Man, I'm gonna be playing. 799 00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:26,162 [blows raspberry] Never got in. 800 00:40:26,206 --> 00:40:28,861 [solemn music] 801 00:40:28,904 --> 00:40:31,690 - That starting five, I think he was nervous 802 00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:34,954 when any one of them was off of the floor. 803 00:40:34,997 --> 00:40:39,567 And it wasn't that we were incapable of contributing. 804 00:40:39,611 --> 00:40:42,788 People don't realize how good we were 805 00:40:42,831 --> 00:40:44,833 because they never saw us. 806 00:40:44,877 --> 00:40:49,838 We'd be up 35, 40 points, let's give the first team a break. 807 00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:54,408 - I was feeling badly because we had guys on the bench 808 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,192 that weren't getting in. 809 00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:58,891 I said, "Coach, take me out, I'm tired." 810 00:40:58,934 --> 00:40:59,892 He said, "Stay in." 811 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:04,157 - [Lucas] Trust me, I can tell you, 812 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,900 being on the court 40 minutes straight is no joke. 813 00:41:07,943 --> 00:41:11,425 To play that fast-paced style every game without a sub? 814 00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:14,428 That can break you. 815 00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:20,652 And that season, as the exhaustion built on the court, 816 00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:22,436 the pressure got to everyone. 817 00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:25,744 - We were in New York playing St. John's, 818 00:41:25,787 --> 00:41:28,398 Jerry Lyne came out and says, "George is on the table. 819 00:41:28,442 --> 00:41:30,096 He's coughing up blood." 820 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:31,837 You know, he had a bleeding ulcer. 821 00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:33,969 - You know, there were times 822 00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:37,407 when guys out there on that floor were hurting. 823 00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:39,018 They had been injured. 824 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:41,847 Vic Rouse had had a shoulder separation, 825 00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,805 and they would have to put it back in 826 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:44,937 and tape it up. 827 00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:49,985 When you run a team for 30 games, 828 00:41:50,029 --> 00:41:51,813 you know, iron wears out. 829 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:57,645 We tried to figure out why certain things happened. 830 00:41:57,689 --> 00:42:00,039 Why certain things didn't happen. 831 00:42:00,996 --> 00:42:03,346 But, we loved each other. 832 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:06,872 Five guys were going to play, 833 00:42:06,915 --> 00:42:09,483 and the other four 834 00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:11,877 were going to be supportive of them. 835 00:42:14,227 --> 00:42:15,924 - [Lucas] Worn down, Loyola suffered 836 00:42:15,968 --> 00:42:19,014 their only two defeats of the season late in the schedule. 837 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:23,149 The struggle for the Iron Five was increasing. 838 00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:26,413 But the worst was yet to come. 839 00:42:28,197 --> 00:42:31,549 [gentle dramatic music] 840 00:42:37,816 --> 00:42:40,427 - [Jack] The game was in Houston, Texas. 841 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:42,908 - To me, we were just going down to play another team. 842 00:42:42,951 --> 00:42:46,520 That's how naive and ignorant I was back then. 843 00:42:47,913 --> 00:42:50,611 It was a pretty small, confined gym. 844 00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:52,221 It didn't take long to realize 845 00:42:52,265 --> 00:42:54,746 that it was gonna be more than a basketball game. 846 00:42:55,747 --> 00:42:59,402 - [Jerry] Things started to unravel. 847 00:42:59,446 --> 00:43:02,884 - [Chuck] I believe everybody in the stadium was against us. 848 00:43:02,928 --> 00:43:05,278 - The fans were out of control. 849 00:43:06,453 --> 00:43:08,847 - [Jerry] Go back home, get out of here. 850 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:10,457 We're gonna get you. 851 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:12,764 - They used the N-word constantly. 852 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:15,636 Threw ice, threw things at us on the court. 853 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,726 - [Jack] The students throwing stuff, 854 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:21,120 I mean, they look like me. 855 00:43:22,034 --> 00:43:25,951 Never having experienced that side of racism, 856 00:43:25,994 --> 00:43:27,953 literally, they're spitting on us. 857 00:43:27,996 --> 00:43:30,738 This is what you guys go through on a daily basis? 858 00:43:32,044 --> 00:43:35,830 - I looked to the side, I didn't see police. 859 00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:37,179 And I started to worry. 860 00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:41,401 - [Rich] There were times during that game 861 00:43:41,444 --> 00:43:46,449 that we feared for our lives, it was that bad. 862 00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,889 - All of the sudden, we heard a loud bang. 863 00:43:50,932 --> 00:43:52,368 [object bangs] 864 00:43:52,412 --> 00:43:55,502 I swear to God, I thought they were shooting at us. 865 00:43:55,545 --> 00:43:59,637 Somebody took a popcorn bag and popped it. 866 00:44:00,768 --> 00:44:03,858 - That was one of the worst experiences on the court 867 00:44:03,902 --> 00:44:06,078 that we experienced as a team. 868 00:44:06,121 --> 00:44:08,515 This is when we talk about Coach George Ireland. 869 00:44:08,558 --> 00:44:09,951 To me, he should have known that, 870 00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:12,693 he should not have put us in those situations. 871 00:44:12,737 --> 00:44:16,479 If he cared, he would not have put us in those situations. 872 00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:21,093 - Coach Ireland had a lot of power. 873 00:44:21,136 --> 00:44:23,748 And I'm not just talking about the power 874 00:44:23,791 --> 00:44:27,490 to play the starters the entire game. 875 00:44:27,534 --> 00:44:31,233 He had the power to say, "This is a segregated city, 876 00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:34,280 and things might be a little scary for you, 877 00:44:34,323 --> 00:44:36,064 but you're gonna play anyway." 878 00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:39,720 And maybe they would have chosen to play anyway, 879 00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:42,984 but we don't know that, because they didn't have a choice. 880 00:44:44,333 --> 00:44:46,596 - [Lucas] Through all the highs and lows of that season, 881 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,902 the game at Houston 882 00:44:47,946 --> 00:44:50,122 left the most lasting impression on the team. 883 00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:54,474 But they won the game, and for the first time ever 884 00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:57,869 Loyola accepted their invitation to the NCAA tournament. 885 00:45:01,307 --> 00:45:02,830 The Iron Five were about to face 886 00:45:02,874 --> 00:45:05,398 a whole new level of public scrutiny 887 00:45:05,441 --> 00:45:08,009 and there was nowhere to hide from what was coming. 888 00:45:10,229 --> 00:45:12,927 [somber music] 889 00:45:12,971 --> 00:45:14,146 - We get the mail. 890 00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:17,671 On the outside it was KKK. 891 00:45:19,194 --> 00:45:24,156 "You don't belong on the same floor as white players. 892 00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:26,941 We're gonna kill you." 893 00:45:26,985 --> 00:45:29,291 And I'ma tell you, I was scared to death. 894 00:45:29,335 --> 00:45:31,032 They know where I live. 895 00:45:31,076 --> 00:45:33,382 They're gonna come to the dorm and get me. 896 00:45:34,819 --> 00:45:36,516 I called Ireland, I said, 897 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,779 "Ireland, you gotta get over here." 898 00:45:38,823 --> 00:45:42,087 And he went to the front desk of the dorm. 899 00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:47,135 "Any mail that comes in for the ballplayers, give it to me." 900 00:45:48,223 --> 00:45:50,530 - My dad would keep the mail from them. 901 00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,750 He did not want them to read 902 00:45:52,793 --> 00:45:55,535 some of the things that were sent. 903 00:45:55,578 --> 00:45:57,145 Dad would show it to us at home. 904 00:45:57,189 --> 00:46:00,322 I just could not believe any human beings 905 00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:04,718 would send stuff like this to 19, 20-year-old kids. 906 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,983 - I've heard stories of the letters that he received. 907 00:46:09,027 --> 00:46:10,855 But I personally never seen any of the letters. 908 00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:13,640 I believe that he did receive letters. 909 00:46:13,683 --> 00:46:16,077 - I was never able to get to the letters. 910 00:46:16,121 --> 00:46:18,732 In my mind, I had to put the letters out of my book 911 00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:22,780 because I couldn't prove them. 912 00:46:24,346 --> 00:46:27,959 - There's three like this that are all closed up. 913 00:46:29,134 --> 00:46:34,095 And up in the corner it says, "Loyola HM," for hate mail. 914 00:46:35,401 --> 00:46:36,750 The way they were signed, 915 00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:40,493 "Uncle Tom," and "KKK," the N-word. 916 00:46:40,536 --> 00:46:42,974 He said he wanted me to have it 917 00:46:43,017 --> 00:46:45,237 because he knew I would protect it. 918 00:46:46,716 --> 00:46:51,634 And he said, "Someday, this history will be alive again. 919 00:46:52,592 --> 00:46:56,509 And maybe then you can show it." 920 00:46:56,552 --> 00:46:59,077 [somber music] 921 00:47:17,225 --> 00:47:19,532 He knew it was the wrong thing to do, 922 00:47:19,575 --> 00:47:24,102 but he could not let this keep coming to his ball players. 923 00:47:24,145 --> 00:47:26,234 I thought, "If I can just protect them, 924 00:47:26,278 --> 00:47:29,020 who needs to know about this stuff?" 925 00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:32,153 It happened, it's here and I promised Dad 926 00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:33,633 that I would protect it. 927 00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:37,376 - [Lucas] It's tempting to hide 928 00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:41,902 the worst parts of our histories, to lock them away, 929 00:47:41,946 --> 00:47:43,469 pretend they don't exist. 930 00:47:45,993 --> 00:47:48,213 Maybe for Ireland, these letters were seen 931 00:47:48,256 --> 00:47:50,868 as a burden on the players, a distraction 932 00:47:50,911 --> 00:47:52,391 at the height of their season. 933 00:47:54,306 --> 00:47:56,656 Maybe it was easiest to just move past them. 934 00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,313 But the problem is, Ireland didn't. 935 00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:04,882 Among those letters were threats so severe, 936 00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:06,884 he hired security for his daughters, 937 00:48:07,797 --> 00:48:10,191 a protection he never offered his players. 938 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,370 - [Ron] I don't think he thought at all 939 00:48:15,414 --> 00:48:17,459 about race relations. 940 00:48:17,503 --> 00:48:21,942 I don't think he was interested in race relations. 941 00:48:21,986 --> 00:48:25,337 I think George Ireland was thinking about himself, 942 00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:30,037 his family, and winning basketball games. 943 00:48:31,212 --> 00:48:36,043 I always accepted that as a part of the times. 944 00:48:36,087 --> 00:48:38,698 I never held that part against him. 945 00:48:38,741 --> 00:48:42,397 It was important to him that he was successful. 946 00:48:42,441 --> 00:48:47,141 And by being good to us, it made him successful. 947 00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,232 - [Lucas] Even through the death threats, 948 00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:53,931 the Loyola players found a way to stay focused. 949 00:48:56,585 --> 00:48:59,197 The NCAA tournament was fast approaching 950 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,721 and Cincinnati was still expected to win it all. 951 00:49:05,464 --> 00:49:06,682 Though it looked like the bracket 952 00:49:06,726 --> 00:49:08,728 would have one glaring omission. 953 00:49:08,771 --> 00:49:10,817 [gentle upbeat music] 954 00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:13,341 - Mississippi State defeated Ole Miss 955 00:49:13,385 --> 00:49:16,736 to clinch the Southeastern Conference Championship, 956 00:49:16,779 --> 00:49:21,219 which gave them the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. 957 00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:24,831 The next day, Governor Barnett issued a statement 958 00:49:24,874 --> 00:49:27,616 that Mississippi State will not be playing 959 00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:29,053 in the NCAA tournament. 960 00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:34,667 - Personally, I feel it is not for the best interest 961 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:39,715 of Mississippi State University, or either of the races. 962 00:49:41,804 --> 00:49:44,982 - [Jerald] The governor had issued an injunction. 963 00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:48,507 - We will do all we can, to the point of arresting you, 964 00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:51,249 when you get ready to leave the state of Mississippi. 965 00:49:52,163 --> 00:49:55,340 - The NCAA had no idea where to put State in their seeding 966 00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:56,776 'cause they didn't know if State was gonna be able 967 00:49:56,819 --> 00:49:59,518 to make it, even though they had verbally committed. 968 00:49:59,561 --> 00:50:02,912 - [Lucas] Mississippi State was given a first-round bye. 969 00:50:02,956 --> 00:50:05,089 Their first opponent would be the winner 970 00:50:05,132 --> 00:50:07,178 of Loyola versus Tennessee Tech. 971 00:50:09,658 --> 00:50:12,748 - [Rich] People don't realize the amount of pressure 972 00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:14,446 that we were under. 973 00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:17,666 Not only from the KKK and the White Knights, 974 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:19,407 but from our own people. 975 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,063 Blacks across the country, 976 00:50:23,107 --> 00:50:27,067 who were putting their hopes on us. 977 00:50:27,111 --> 00:50:32,072 That we had to win because the black community 978 00:50:32,594 --> 00:50:34,466 was counting on us. 979 00:50:36,076 --> 00:50:38,992 - Jerry said that he had black people calling him saying, 980 00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:41,603 "Hey, you better not lose to those white boys." 981 00:50:41,647 --> 00:50:43,953 - Come on, you guys, we're rooting for you, 982 00:50:43,997 --> 00:50:45,346 we're rooting for you. 983 00:50:46,434 --> 00:50:51,396 We got so roused up that you're gonna be hard to beat. 984 00:50:51,831 --> 00:50:54,312 You're gonna be very hard to beat. 985 00:50:55,791 --> 00:50:59,447 The first game was against Tennessee Tech, 986 00:50:59,491 --> 00:51:01,406 an all-white team. 987 00:51:01,449 --> 00:51:04,626 [gentle bright music] 988 00:51:06,367 --> 00:51:08,543 And that poor team. 989 00:51:08,587 --> 00:51:12,417 We went up 30, 40, we beat 'em, 990 00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:15,333 and it's still a record, 69 points. 991 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,685 - The final score of that game 992 00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:23,123 is still the greatest disparity in NCAA history. 993 00:51:23,167 --> 00:51:27,736 - I mean, it's just amazing the advantage you have 994 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:29,999 once you're motivated and roused up. 995 00:51:32,176 --> 00:51:35,135 - [Lucas] The Ramblers were eager for their next match-up. 996 00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:37,181 But with no word from Mississippi State, 997 00:51:38,182 --> 00:51:40,532 Loyola had no idea if they'd show up. 998 00:51:42,969 --> 00:51:44,231 - Their coaches said we're going, 999 00:51:44,275 --> 00:51:45,841 their president says they're going, 1000 00:51:45,885 --> 00:51:47,669 but everybody else in power in the state says, 1001 00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:50,150 "No, you can't." 1002 00:51:50,194 --> 00:51:53,501 These are guys who were raised to honor authority, 1003 00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:55,851 to obey their elders. 1004 00:51:55,895 --> 00:51:58,071 - You know, we faced jail time 1005 00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:00,900 if we failed to obey the injunction. 1006 00:52:02,031 --> 00:52:03,076 - [Jackie] The night before the trip, 1007 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,252 Coach McCarthy did have a team meeting. 1008 00:52:05,296 --> 00:52:07,646 We talked, he'd said, 1009 00:52:07,689 --> 00:52:09,126 "Here's what we're gonna do." 1010 00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:14,218 [suspenseful music] 1011 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,311 We aimed to leave early the next morning, 1012 00:52:20,354 --> 00:52:23,531 as early as we could and we headed out. 1013 00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:27,883 - [Michael] The team was gonna split into two teams. 1014 00:52:27,927 --> 00:52:30,495 One was the decoy team. 1015 00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:32,975 - They sent our trainer and six of our players 1016 00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:36,501 that didn't play a whole lot out to the airport. 1017 00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:39,025 - [Robbie] They keep the five starters and the sixth man 1018 00:52:39,068 --> 00:52:40,331 back at the dorm room. 1019 00:52:40,374 --> 00:52:42,246 - [Jackie] There're two airports in Starkville. 1020 00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:45,249 As a decoy, one group was going to Bryan Field. 1021 00:52:45,292 --> 00:52:46,728 - [Doug] They went out there to see 1022 00:52:46,772 --> 00:52:50,428 if there was gonna be an officer to serve the injunction. 1023 00:52:50,471 --> 00:52:54,649 - In that case, the trainer with the decoys 1024 00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:58,175 was gonna phone back to campus, tell the starting team, 1025 00:52:58,218 --> 00:53:00,133 "Don't come to the airport." 1026 00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:02,004 They had another plane waiting for them 1027 00:53:02,048 --> 00:53:05,530 at another airport that they were gonna take if they had to. 1028 00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:08,620 - [Jackie] And should six be arrested, 1029 00:53:08,663 --> 00:53:11,144 six will end up in East Lansing, Michigan. 1030 00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:14,147 - It was like "Mission Impossible," man. 1031 00:53:15,888 --> 00:53:17,629 - We were kinda the guinea pigs, okay? 1032 00:53:17,672 --> 00:53:21,328 I was literally scared to death, but we were gonna go. 1033 00:53:23,112 --> 00:53:25,593 - The reserves made it through to the airport. 1034 00:53:25,637 --> 00:53:28,335 A call was made, and they said, "Coast is clear." 1035 00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,991 And the starters, Joe Dan and Red Straud 1036 00:53:32,034 --> 00:53:33,732 and Doug Hutton, they went. 1037 00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:37,910 And they all flew together. 1038 00:53:37,953 --> 00:53:39,781 [upbeat music] 1039 00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:42,610 - [Jackie] And as soon as the plane left the ground, 1040 00:53:42,654 --> 00:53:44,482 you could hear the guys all together 1041 00:53:44,525 --> 00:53:46,875 started clapping and cheering. 1042 00:53:46,919 --> 00:53:48,921 We're off, we're on our way. 1043 00:53:54,143 --> 00:53:56,233 - [Jerry] I didn't think they were gonna come. 1044 00:53:56,276 --> 00:53:59,801 And when we got to Michigan, they said 1045 00:53:59,845 --> 00:54:02,848 Mississippi State is gonna play you. 1046 00:54:04,937 --> 00:54:06,678 - To know that cops are chasing them 1047 00:54:06,721 --> 00:54:09,550 and that what they're doing is gonna create a stir. 1048 00:54:09,594 --> 00:54:12,205 And then just even getting psychologically ready 1049 00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:13,685 for an NCAA tournament game, 1050 00:54:13,728 --> 00:54:16,296 which they had never done before. 1051 00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,255 I'm sure they were probably tapped out. 1052 00:54:19,386 --> 00:54:22,694 - [Jackie] How many people are gonna support us being there? 1053 00:54:22,737 --> 00:54:23,608 We don't know. 1054 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:27,046 - [Doug] Everything was very quiet. 1055 00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,439 We're all sitting there, you know, 1056 00:54:28,482 --> 00:54:30,005 about halfway wanting to cry. 1057 00:54:31,224 --> 00:54:34,314 [gentle triumphant music] 1058 00:54:34,358 --> 00:54:36,142 - And when we got on the floor that night, 1059 00:54:36,185 --> 00:54:40,407 and all of a sudden, the MSU fight song was played. 1060 00:54:40,451 --> 00:54:42,583 [spectators cheering] 1061 00:54:42,627 --> 00:54:45,804 [lively upbeat music] 1062 00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:54,595 Here we are, a bunch of white kids in opposition 1063 00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,729 to a movement against black athletes, 1064 00:54:57,772 --> 00:55:01,950 to play something as easy or simple as a basketball game? 1065 00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:05,606 To walk into a gym of 15, 18,000 people. 1066 00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:09,175 Wow. 1067 00:55:12,352 --> 00:55:14,311 Could it really be happening? That, um. 1068 00:55:16,530 --> 00:55:19,141 [solemn music] 1069 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,971 - [Robbie] They had no clue 1070 00:55:23,015 --> 00:55:24,625 that they would be that welcomed. 1071 00:55:25,757 --> 00:55:28,020 - Doug] Joe Dan Gold was our captain 1072 00:55:28,063 --> 00:55:31,066 and he went out to shake hands before the tip-off. 1073 00:55:32,807 --> 00:55:34,331 - [Jerry] There was no cheering. 1074 00:55:34,374 --> 00:55:36,333 The place was quiet. 1075 00:55:36,376 --> 00:55:39,858 Everybody was watching us, you could feel it. 1076 00:55:39,901 --> 00:55:43,992 I didn't hear anything the referees were saying. 1077 00:55:44,036 --> 00:55:48,083 I was looking at Joe Dan and he was looking at me. 1078 00:55:48,127 --> 00:55:52,566 We both went to shake hands and the place lit up. 1079 00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:53,785 Pop, pop, pow! 1080 00:55:56,483 --> 00:55:58,355 - [Judy] The cameras just went crazy. 1081 00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:00,922 - [Jackie] Almost turned into daylight. 1082 00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:03,316 - [Rick C] I mean everyone understood 1083 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,537 how important that moment was. 1084 00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:08,321 It was captured for the ages. 1085 00:56:09,496 --> 00:56:12,325 - [Jerry] I said, "This is more than a game. 1086 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,935 This is history." 1087 00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:19,593 - For our two captains to shake hands 1088 00:56:19,637 --> 00:56:23,684 and acknowledge the fact that, "Hey, we're here." 1089 00:56:23,728 --> 00:56:26,339 [somber music] 1090 00:56:32,084 --> 00:56:34,216 - [Lucas] The night would forever be known 1091 00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:35,696 as the Game of Change. 1092 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:47,447 When the final buzzer sounded, 1093 00:56:47,491 --> 00:56:51,320 Loyola had earned the win, sending them to the Elite Eight. 1094 00:56:51,364 --> 00:56:54,628 While Mississippi State faced the reality of returning home, 1095 00:56:54,672 --> 00:56:57,457 and the consequences that would be waiting. 1096 00:56:57,501 --> 00:56:59,328 - I don't know, we could have played a whole lot of games 1097 00:56:59,372 --> 00:57:00,895 and probably never beaten them. 1098 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:05,073 Coach came in, and his first thing he says 1099 00:57:05,117 --> 00:57:06,292 when he popped in that door, 1100 00:57:06,335 --> 00:57:08,686 is "Boys, you get your head up." 1101 00:57:08,729 --> 00:57:10,078 He said, "Y'all have done something 1102 00:57:10,122 --> 00:57:12,429 that nobody in Mississippi's ever done, you know. 1103 00:57:12,472 --> 00:57:14,300 Y'all have nothing to be ashamed of." 1104 00:57:17,521 --> 00:57:18,739 - Well, obviously our flight home 1105 00:57:18,783 --> 00:57:20,393 was a disappointing flight home. 1106 00:57:21,307 --> 00:57:23,875 Yet, it wasn't disappointing 1107 00:57:23,918 --> 00:57:26,704 because we had accomplished what we set out to do. 1108 00:57:28,096 --> 00:57:30,316 - The Mississippi State team didn't know 1109 00:57:30,359 --> 00:57:33,145 what they would find when they got home. 1110 00:57:33,188 --> 00:57:34,538 That was the danger. 1111 00:57:34,581 --> 00:57:36,061 That was the element that they were dealing with, 1112 00:57:36,104 --> 00:57:38,498 it had to be in the back of their minds the whole time. 1113 00:57:38,542 --> 00:57:41,501 [soft solemn music] 1114 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,417 They get back to Mississippi 1115 00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:48,943 and there's a crowd treating them like heroes. 1116 00:57:48,987 --> 00:57:52,164 [spectators cheering] 1117 00:57:58,213 --> 00:58:00,172 You know, the best thing is to win. 1118 00:58:00,215 --> 00:58:02,000 The second best thing is to lose. 1119 00:58:02,043 --> 00:58:04,393 That means you got a chance to compete. 1120 00:58:04,437 --> 00:58:07,919 Without the ability to compete, you got nothing. 1121 00:58:09,268 --> 00:58:11,400 - Differences of opinion that we have 1122 00:58:11,444 --> 00:58:13,664 and ill feelings that we have, 1123 00:58:13,707 --> 00:58:17,058 but basketball and sports can do an awful lot 1124 00:58:17,102 --> 00:58:18,407 to bring people together. 1125 00:58:20,758 --> 00:58:23,151 - [Lucas] As the NCAA tournament continued, 1126 00:58:23,195 --> 00:58:25,284 Loyola defeated Illinois and Duke 1127 00:58:25,327 --> 00:58:27,373 to advance to the championship game 1128 00:58:27,416 --> 00:58:30,158 for the first time in school history. 1129 00:58:30,202 --> 00:58:32,857 The most anticipated contest of the season, 1130 00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,947 Loyola versus Cincinnati, was set. 1131 00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:39,777 - The night we beat Duke, what I remember most vividly 1132 00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:42,910 is Vic Rouse jumping on the bed 1133 00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:44,912 at four o'clock in the morning 1134 00:58:44,956 --> 00:58:49,351 saying he's gonna be looking at his NCAA watch. 1135 00:58:49,395 --> 00:58:52,137 [laughing] I remember that vividly. 1136 00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:53,965 'Cause they didn't give out rings at that time. 1137 00:58:54,008 --> 00:58:55,532 They gave out watches. 1138 00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:57,969 I don't think any of the guys got to bed 1139 00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,100 til at least 4:00 in the morning. 1140 00:58:59,144 --> 00:59:01,146 And that might have been, 1141 00:59:01,189 --> 00:59:03,888 the guys might have been dragging a little bit. 1142 00:59:03,931 --> 00:59:05,759 - [Red] NCAA Championship ball game. 1143 00:59:05,803 --> 00:59:07,805 It's a ding-dong-dilly of a battle tonight 1144 00:59:07,848 --> 00:59:10,198 at Louisville as we will have the Bearcats, 1145 00:59:10,242 --> 00:59:12,897 coached by Ed Jucker, against the Ramblers, 1146 00:59:12,940 --> 00:59:17,118 coached by George Ireland of Loyola of Chicago. 1147 00:59:17,162 --> 00:59:19,599 - [Lucas] For the first time in NCAA history, 1148 00:59:19,643 --> 00:59:23,429 seven black starters across both teams took the floor. 1149 00:59:23,472 --> 00:59:25,649 And in a nationally televised game, 1150 00:59:25,692 --> 00:59:27,346 the entire country was watching. 1151 00:59:29,217 --> 00:59:32,873 On Chicago local radio, Loyola's very own announcer, 1152 00:59:32,917 --> 00:59:35,006 Red Rush was calling the game, 1153 00:59:35,876 --> 00:59:38,575 a voice no one would forget by the end of the night. 1154 00:59:38,618 --> 00:59:40,925 - [Red] We are hungry for a championship, 1155 00:59:40,968 --> 00:59:43,623 so please bring one home to us, won't you? 1156 00:59:43,667 --> 00:59:45,277 - It was bringing chills to me 1157 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,931 to be honest with you, watching that. 1158 00:59:46,974 --> 00:59:49,063 - We had 150 young nuns there, 1159 00:59:49,107 --> 00:59:51,109 looking at this little black-and-white TV 1160 00:59:51,152 --> 00:59:53,024 so we could watch that game. 1161 00:59:55,548 --> 01:00:00,553 - Probably the audience at the time was pro-Cincinnati. 1162 01:00:01,902 --> 01:00:04,209 Nobody had won three titles in a row. 1163 01:00:05,645 --> 01:00:07,212 - I guess the excitement starts 1164 01:00:07,255 --> 01:00:11,259 when you're running out through the crowded area. 1165 01:00:12,173 --> 01:00:15,655 I could not see anybody that I knew there, 1166 01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:17,352 but I knew they were there. 1167 01:00:17,396 --> 01:00:19,616 Okay, there was that many people. 1168 01:00:19,659 --> 01:00:21,966 [spectators cheering] 1169 01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:23,228 It felt as though 1170 01:00:23,271 --> 01:00:24,969 I'd been looking forward to this all my life. 1171 01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:28,929 I would say more excited, 1172 01:00:28,973 --> 01:00:32,150 somewhat nervous, but more excited. 1173 01:00:34,718 --> 01:00:36,894 I just said, "We gotta get to a good start." 1174 01:00:38,983 --> 01:00:40,854 - At tip-off, I had this little habit 1175 01:00:40,898 --> 01:00:43,596 where I always reached down and touched my sock. 1176 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,773 And that night, I didn't touch my sock, 1177 01:00:46,817 --> 01:00:49,515 which said to me I must have been nervous. 1178 01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:51,604 - [Red] The ball's in the air 1179 01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:53,954 and controlled by Cincinnati's Tony Yates. 1180 01:00:53,998 --> 01:00:56,130 So the Bearcats have got the ball on the move. 1181 01:00:56,174 --> 01:00:58,437 He brings the ball over the 10-second timeline. 1182 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,004 The Bearcats control down here to Bonham, 1183 01:01:00,047 --> 01:01:01,832 fires from the baseline, jumps, shoots, off, 1184 01:01:01,875 --> 01:01:04,530 no good, and Wilson stuffs it through. 1185 01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:08,316 George Wilson went high in the sky and stuffed it through. 1186 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,623 - We were the best team, without a doubt. 1187 01:01:10,667 --> 01:01:12,886 Deliberate game, set picks, 1188 01:01:12,930 --> 01:01:14,540 take our time with the ball. 1189 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,021 - [Lucas] Right at tip-off, 1190 01:01:17,064 --> 01:01:19,414 Cincinnati had momentum on their side. 1191 01:01:19,458 --> 01:01:21,416 Both teams studied their opponent, 1192 01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:24,985 their styles, tactics, and their biggest threat. 1193 01:01:25,029 --> 01:01:26,160 - [Red] Harkness out to Ron Miller, 1194 01:01:26,204 --> 01:01:27,727 they're going to try to set the pattern, 1195 01:01:27,771 --> 01:01:29,947 they're not going in that full-court-press incidentally. 1196 01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:32,689 - Tom Thacker, the best defensive player 1197 01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:34,952 in college basketball at the time. 1198 01:01:34,995 --> 01:01:38,259 At the beginning of the game I said, "I'ma get in his head." 1199 01:01:40,522 --> 01:01:41,567 - [Michael] He was going in 1200 01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:44,135 for what he thought was an easy layup. 1201 01:01:44,178 --> 01:01:47,181 He thought he had Tom Thacker beat. 1202 01:01:47,225 --> 01:01:48,835 - Instead of going left, 1203 01:01:48,879 --> 01:01:50,837 where I know they had scouted me 1204 01:01:50,881 --> 01:01:54,145 and I go left 90% of the time, 1205 01:01:54,188 --> 01:01:56,582 I said, "I'ma go right on him." 1206 01:01:56,625 --> 01:01:58,062 - [Red] They're going to try to set the pattern. 1207 01:01:58,105 --> 01:01:59,585 There goes Harkness driving the baseline, 1208 01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:00,804 and the ball knocked out of bounds 1209 01:02:00,847 --> 01:02:03,720 by Tom Thacker who is on Harkness. 1210 01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:05,330 - He slapped the ball away. 1211 01:02:05,373 --> 01:02:09,464 I could not believe what he had just done. 1212 01:02:09,508 --> 01:02:13,338 Nobody would think of it as being awesome except me. 1213 01:02:13,381 --> 01:02:15,732 He knocked me out of my game. 1214 01:02:15,775 --> 01:02:19,083 - [Michael] From that moment on, he was afraid of Thacker. 1215 01:02:19,126 --> 01:02:20,824 Thacker was in his head. 1216 01:02:20,867 --> 01:02:22,739 - [Red] Being guarded by Thacker, Harkness goes up 1217 01:02:22,782 --> 01:02:25,045 off the left side, jumps, an 8-footer, off, no good, 1218 01:02:25,089 --> 01:02:27,787 and Wilson clears the backboard backing up underneath. 1219 01:02:28,962 --> 01:02:32,444 - When I got around him, there's George Wilson. 1220 01:02:32,487 --> 01:02:35,490 They had a double where they had me boxed in. 1221 01:02:35,534 --> 01:02:36,317 - [Red] Down to Harkness. 1222 01:02:36,361 --> 01:02:37,405 Harkness has yet to score, 1223 01:02:37,449 --> 01:02:38,972 we're going to see what happens. 1224 01:02:39,016 --> 01:02:40,321 He backs up, he always shoots when he does, let's wait. 1225 01:02:40,365 --> 01:02:42,323 He turns around, jumps, shoots, off, no good, 1226 01:02:42,367 --> 01:02:44,630 and the ball knocked into the hands of Wilson. 1227 01:02:44,673 --> 01:02:47,154 - They had all of the things to stop me. 1228 01:02:47,198 --> 01:02:49,374 They just scouted us very, very well. 1229 01:02:49,417 --> 01:02:51,158 - [Red] Off to Miller to the right-hand side, 1230 01:02:51,202 --> 01:02:53,987 goes to the baseline, jumps, an 8-footer, off, no good. 1231 01:02:54,031 --> 01:02:56,163 So Ron Miller has got a foul. 1232 01:02:56,207 --> 01:02:58,687 - We'd had slow starts before. 1233 01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:03,344 But this night, something is wrong. 1234 01:03:03,388 --> 01:03:05,346 [dramatic music] 1235 01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:08,219 - [Lucas] With the threat of Jerry Harkness neutralized, 1236 01:03:08,262 --> 01:03:09,655 Ed Jucker turned his attack 1237 01:03:09,698 --> 01:03:14,225 on what Loyola relied on most, their speed. 1238 01:03:14,268 --> 01:03:16,009 - [Red] Passing over to Bonham behind the free-throw line, 1239 01:03:16,053 --> 01:03:17,097 it is off the iron, no good 1240 01:03:17,141 --> 01:03:18,969 and Miller controls it off of there. 1241 01:03:19,012 --> 01:03:20,318 They slow down that fast break. 1242 01:03:20,361 --> 01:03:22,624 9:56 left to go in the first half. 1243 01:03:22,668 --> 01:03:25,584 - They took away our fast breaks. 1244 01:03:25,627 --> 01:03:27,934 - We wanted to cut loose all the time. 1245 01:03:27,978 --> 01:03:29,370 We wanted to get the ball and go, 1246 01:03:29,414 --> 01:03:30,981 and get the ball and go. 1247 01:03:31,024 --> 01:03:34,854 They didn't take enough shots for us to get going. 1248 01:03:34,898 --> 01:03:37,814 They were never in a hurry to take a shot. 1249 01:03:37,857 --> 01:03:40,947 - [Red] Thacker way over, hands it back to Larry Shingleton. 1250 01:03:40,991 --> 01:03:42,253 They have a seven point lead 1251 01:03:42,296 --> 01:03:43,689 and when Cincinnati's got that kind of a lead, 1252 01:03:43,732 --> 01:03:44,821 it's pretty tough. 1253 01:03:44,864 --> 01:03:46,431 - So they didn't miss a lot of shots. 1254 01:03:46,474 --> 01:03:50,000 So there was not an opportunity for us to get rebounds. 1255 01:03:50,043 --> 01:03:53,612 And for some reason, we could not ever adjust to that style. 1256 01:03:53,655 --> 01:03:57,137 I don't remember having a fast-break in the first half. 1257 01:03:57,181 --> 01:03:59,052 - We just never could get started. 1258 01:03:59,096 --> 01:04:00,401 And we weren't shooting well. 1259 01:04:00,445 --> 01:04:02,099 Shooting percentage was terrible. 1260 01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:04,710 - [Red] The Ramblers with a 13-footer, up, off, no good. 1261 01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:06,407 Over to Miller, jumping from behind the free-throw lane, 1262 01:04:06,451 --> 01:04:09,236 it is up, and short, no good, and Thacker clears it. 1263 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,325 - How could we miss that many shots? 1264 01:04:11,369 --> 01:04:13,850 I mean they were easy shots, they were wide open shots, 1265 01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:15,199 and we were missing shots. 1266 01:04:15,242 --> 01:04:17,679 - I knew that we were much better 1267 01:04:17,723 --> 01:04:19,159 than we were playing. 1268 01:04:19,203 --> 01:04:21,901 A lot of people were probably watching at home. 1269 01:04:21,945 --> 01:04:24,034 And we come there and flop. 1270 01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:27,776 - Everyone on that team was nervous. 1271 01:04:28,821 --> 01:04:33,130 We were out of sync, largely because our leader 1272 01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:36,568 was not having a good half. 1273 01:04:36,611 --> 01:04:38,875 - [Michael] Jerry did not feel confident. 1274 01:04:38,918 --> 01:04:41,399 If Jerry was not confident, the rest of the team 1275 01:04:41,442 --> 01:04:44,054 had to wonder, "What's to become of us?" 1276 01:04:44,097 --> 01:04:45,707 - [Red] Miller over to Harkness. 1277 01:04:45,751 --> 01:04:47,100 He goes down near the baseline. 1278 01:04:47,144 --> 01:04:48,841 Bonham's on him, dribbles under, fakes, shoots, 1279 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,538 and he is knocked down. 1280 01:04:50,582 --> 01:04:51,844 But getting the ball. 1281 01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:55,152 Egan sets, he shoots, it is rolling off, no good. 1282 01:04:55,195 --> 01:04:57,502 Over to Ron Miller, he jumps, he shoots, a 6-footer, 1283 01:04:57,545 --> 01:04:59,721 rolls off, no good, and the ball is knocked out of bounds, 1284 01:04:59,765 --> 01:05:01,680 last touched by Vic Rouse. 1285 01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:06,467 At halftime the score is 29 to 21. 1286 01:05:06,511 --> 01:05:08,513 - The assumption by everybody is that this is a gimme. 1287 01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,428 Cincinnati's got it, it's in the bag. 1288 01:05:12,821 --> 01:05:15,433 [gentle bright music] 1289 01:05:15,476 --> 01:05:17,696 - The first half of the championship game 1290 01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:20,177 is kind of a blur. 1291 01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:23,789 I remember Jerry had a very bad game, 1292 01:05:25,225 --> 01:05:26,705 but so did everyone else. 1293 01:05:28,054 --> 01:05:29,926 We played the worst game of the year. 1294 01:05:32,145 --> 01:05:34,887 Of the four years that I was around Ireland, 1295 01:05:34,931 --> 01:05:36,367 I've often thought 1296 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:40,762 that George Ireland's greatest achievement as a coach 1297 01:05:40,806 --> 01:05:43,243 was what he said at halftime. 1298 01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:49,510 He walks into the locker room and said to us, 1299 01:05:49,554 --> 01:05:53,819 "You know, you just played the worst half of basketball 1300 01:05:53,862 --> 01:05:55,908 I think we've played all year." 1301 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:58,171 And he says, "I'm not worried about it. 1302 01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:01,348 We're gonna go out there the second half, 1303 01:06:01,392 --> 01:06:04,264 and you're gonna play better, and we'll win the game." 1304 01:06:05,744 --> 01:06:08,399 There were other times when we would be winning 1305 01:06:08,442 --> 01:06:10,705 by 10, 12, 15 points, 1306 01:06:10,749 --> 01:06:12,446 and he would come into the locker room 1307 01:06:12,490 --> 01:06:14,666 and he would start throwing things around, 1308 01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,538 telling us how lousy we were playing. 1309 01:06:17,582 --> 01:06:20,324 But at this moment, that night, 1310 01:06:20,367 --> 01:06:23,718 he was the complete opposite of all of those. 1311 01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,374 He said, "We're better than that. 1312 01:06:27,418 --> 01:06:29,333 You're better than that." 1313 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,422 He said, "We'll get 'em the second half." 1314 01:06:33,728 --> 01:06:36,557 I've often felt that was his finest hour. 1315 01:06:36,601 --> 01:06:40,648 [soft suspenseful music] 1316 01:06:40,692 --> 01:06:43,869 [spectators cheering] 1317 01:06:46,741 --> 01:06:48,352 - [Red] The ball is up and controlled 1318 01:06:48,395 --> 01:06:50,832 by Jerry Harkness over near the sideline. 1319 01:06:50,876 --> 01:06:52,573 Back to Miller the ball goes. 1320 01:06:52,617 --> 01:06:54,271 Back down to Harkness on the right side, 1321 01:06:54,314 --> 01:06:56,273 going inside the free-throw lane, shoots up, 1322 01:06:56,316 --> 01:06:57,839 and it goes off to Rouse, 1323 01:06:57,883 --> 01:07:00,625 he scores as he controls the board. 1324 01:07:00,668 --> 01:07:04,933 - I never heard anyone say they had lost their hope. 1325 01:07:04,977 --> 01:07:07,066 But if you're watching that game, 1326 01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:09,634 you had to think, "Things are not going our way 1327 01:07:09,677 --> 01:07:12,506 and I don't see how they're gonna change." 1328 01:07:12,550 --> 01:07:14,508 - [Lucas] Bolstered by their coach's confidence, 1329 01:07:14,552 --> 01:07:17,033 Loyola came out of the half ready to fight, 1330 01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:20,210 but Cincinnati looked just as strong as they started. 1331 01:07:20,253 --> 01:07:21,994 With Jerry still held at bay, 1332 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:23,952 the Bearcats kept the pace slow, 1333 01:07:23,996 --> 01:07:25,606 making it even harder to catch up. 1334 01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:27,173 - [Red] Yates has got it over the far side 1335 01:07:27,217 --> 01:07:28,174 to Larry Shingleton. 1336 01:07:28,218 --> 01:07:29,567 Larry down the corner to Bonham, 1337 01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:31,743 he jumps, an 18-footer is up and good. 1338 01:07:31,786 --> 01:07:35,399 45 to 30, Cincinnati leading by 15 points, 1339 01:07:35,442 --> 01:07:37,879 you wouldn't believe it unless you were here. 1340 01:07:37,923 --> 01:07:39,316 - [Jack] I'm thinking to myself, 1341 01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:40,926 "How do we make this comeback? 1342 01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:42,536 How do we do it?" 1343 01:07:42,580 --> 01:07:44,973 - Cincinnati was about the best defensive team 1344 01:07:45,017 --> 01:07:46,497 in the United States, 1345 01:07:46,540 --> 01:07:48,716 so how do you overcome that deficit? 1346 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,893 - [Michael] It's a long, hard hill to climb. 1347 01:07:51,937 --> 01:07:54,287 But maybe there's some life in them yet. 1348 01:07:54,331 --> 01:07:56,681 - [Red] Rouse clears the backboard for Loyola. 1349 01:07:58,030 --> 01:07:59,379 - [Rich] Take the deep breath 1350 01:07:59,423 --> 01:08:02,600 and you wait for your time to hit. 1351 01:08:02,643 --> 01:08:04,993 - [Red] 47-34, 13 point lead. 1352 01:08:05,037 --> 01:08:07,170 Here's Ron Miller going down to the baseline. 1353 01:08:07,213 --> 01:08:09,389 Jumps, shoots, scores. 1354 01:08:09,433 --> 01:08:10,564 Going in the lane, and back, and pass, 1355 01:08:10,608 --> 01:08:12,218 it goes to Harkness, the baseline, 1356 01:08:12,262 --> 01:08:13,393 jumps, off, no good, 1357 01:08:13,437 --> 01:08:15,700 he can't get it, Rouse gets the rebound. 1358 01:08:15,743 --> 01:08:18,746 - It was about five minutes to go in the game. 1359 01:08:18,790 --> 01:08:20,357 I hadn't scored a basket. 1360 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,575 - [Red] Shoots, up, off, no good. 1361 01:08:21,619 --> 01:08:22,968 And Leslie Hunter clears it. 1362 01:08:23,011 --> 01:08:25,536 There they go, Harkness, and the ball is stolen, 1363 01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:29,017 as Harkness passes, it's stolen by Larry Shingleton. 1364 01:08:29,061 --> 01:08:30,802 Beautiful interception by Larry. 1365 01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,849 - [Lucas] Loyola was battling every possession. 1366 01:08:34,893 --> 01:08:37,287 But still down seven, every miss 1367 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:39,245 made it painfully clear, 1368 01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:44,207 if Jerry Harkness couldn't score, Loyola was finished. 1369 01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:50,126 - Jerry had a big dream, had big ideas 1370 01:08:50,169 --> 01:08:53,607 about his friends at home watching him on TV. 1371 01:08:53,651 --> 01:08:56,741 How this was gonna be triumph of the poor, 1372 01:08:56,784 --> 01:08:59,744 be triumphant back in New York. 1373 01:08:59,787 --> 01:09:02,573 And he saw all that slipping away. 1374 01:09:02,616 --> 01:09:05,619 - I would not have been able to face myself, 1375 01:09:05,663 --> 01:09:09,319 in life, because I played so bad. 1376 01:09:10,581 --> 01:09:14,324 I would have felt bad for the rest of my life. 1377 01:09:17,065 --> 01:09:20,721 But God has always put me in a situation, 1378 01:09:22,114 --> 01:09:25,770 going on welfare, nothing to eat. 1379 01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:30,035 And I think of my mom getting us through, 1380 01:09:31,341 --> 01:09:35,171 coming out of the hospital, and telling us, 1381 01:09:36,084 --> 01:09:37,782 "We're going to make it." 1382 01:09:39,044 --> 01:09:43,004 I realized that all of that drive and determination 1383 01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:46,269 came from my mom. 1384 01:09:48,096 --> 01:09:50,795 Ireland put in a different play 1385 01:09:50,838 --> 01:09:53,667 that Cincinnati had not seen. 1386 01:09:53,711 --> 01:09:56,540 I felt finally, maybe this is it for me. 1387 01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:03,373 - [Red] Egan, Egan to Harkness, turn around, jumper's good. 1388 01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:05,070 Jerry made his first basket. 1389 01:10:05,113 --> 01:10:10,206 He made it, he might do it, 48 to 43, 48 to 43. 1390 01:10:10,249 --> 01:10:11,424 - [Jack] We can win this game. 1391 01:10:11,468 --> 01:10:13,948 At that point, we can win. 1392 01:10:13,992 --> 01:10:15,776 - [Red] Here's Thacker with that ball. 1393 01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:17,648 Passing down, intercepted by Harkness. 1394 01:10:17,691 --> 01:10:20,520 Here goes Jerry, lays it up, and he scores. 1395 01:10:20,564 --> 01:10:24,655 Harkness scores, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. 1396 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,007 48-45, 4:16 left to go. 1397 01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:31,314 Oh, is this a ball game now. 1398 01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:33,707 Out to Harkness on the left side, he's driving down, 1399 01:10:33,751 --> 01:10:38,756 he's under, lays it up, and scores, he scores, he scores. 1400 01:10:39,191 --> 01:10:41,846 - Jerry was the primary reason 1401 01:10:41,889 --> 01:10:46,242 that we were able to come back and get into the game. 1402 01:10:46,285 --> 01:10:51,203 Once he heated up, the rest of the team followed suit. 1403 01:10:52,987 --> 01:10:56,991 - [Ron] We just started playing harder, much harder. 1404 01:10:57,035 --> 01:10:58,384 - [Red] Look at Hunter get that ball. 1405 01:10:58,428 --> 01:10:59,907 Miller on the right side, 1406 01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:01,735 a bounce pass into Hunter, turn around, layup, and oh! 1407 01:11:01,779 --> 01:11:04,390 Goal tending, goal tending, they finally called it. 1408 01:11:04,434 --> 01:11:06,392 It's 51 to 50. 1409 01:11:06,436 --> 01:11:09,090 - The crowd started to come around, 1410 01:11:09,134 --> 01:11:11,005 'cause we started to close the gap. 1411 01:11:11,049 --> 01:11:13,138 - [Red] Here comes Harkness, he lays it up 1412 01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:17,490 and it is tipped in by Hunter, 19 seconds, 15 seconds, 16. 1413 01:11:18,622 --> 01:11:20,711 Shingleton's got it, and a foul. 1414 01:11:20,754 --> 01:11:22,756 Harkness fouled him purposefully, he had to do it. 1415 01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:25,019 - [Announcer] 12 seconds to play 1416 01:11:25,063 --> 01:11:27,500 and it's bedlam here in Louisville, Kentucky. 1417 01:11:28,806 --> 01:11:32,766 53 to 52, Cincinnati by one single point. 1418 01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:35,378 And going to the line will be Larry Shingleton. 1419 01:11:35,421 --> 01:11:37,554 - Larry Shingleton was one of 1420 01:11:37,597 --> 01:11:41,775 the best free-throw shooters in the nation. 1421 01:11:41,819 --> 01:11:46,780 So, you know, when he stepped to the line, my heart sank. 1422 01:11:47,172 --> 01:11:48,826 - [Announcer] With 12 seconds to go, 1423 01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:50,393 Shingleton will go to the line. 1424 01:11:50,436 --> 01:11:53,483 If he should miss, they would have time of course 1425 01:11:53,526 --> 01:11:56,399 to go down the court and perhaps take that one shot. 1426 01:11:56,442 --> 01:11:58,618 And Tom, anything can happen at this point. 1427 01:12:00,011 --> 01:12:02,448 - I am out there praying. 1428 01:12:02,492 --> 01:12:05,321 'Cause if he hits both, over. 1429 01:12:05,364 --> 01:12:07,714 No doubt about it, the game is over. 1430 01:12:07,758 --> 01:12:11,327 [spectators whistling] 1431 01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:12,676 [spectators cheering] 1432 01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:16,114 - [Announcer] Well, there's one of them, 54 to 52. 1433 01:12:16,157 --> 01:12:21,162 - I said, "Dear Lord, please, please just give us a chance." 1434 01:12:22,033 --> 01:12:23,208 - [Announcer] Larry Shingleton 1435 01:12:23,251 --> 01:12:25,428 with only his second point of the night. 1436 01:12:25,471 --> 01:12:28,474 And now, perhaps he can ice the ball game for them. 1437 01:12:30,171 --> 01:12:33,566 [soft suspenseful music] 1438 01:12:35,307 --> 01:12:39,224 It's short, and it comes off to Loyola. 1439 01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:41,835 - Les gets the rebound, perfect position. 1440 01:12:42,793 --> 01:12:44,229 And there's a guy from Cincinnati 1441 01:12:44,272 --> 01:12:48,189 who swipes at the ball as Les passes the ball to me. 1442 01:12:48,233 --> 01:12:51,105 And as I catch the ball, I take one dribble 1443 01:12:51,149 --> 01:12:54,587 and I see Jerry streaking toward the basket. 1444 01:12:54,631 --> 01:12:57,851 I saw him break, I knew he could get his shot, 1445 01:12:57,895 --> 01:12:59,592 because that's his spot. 1446 01:12:59,636 --> 01:13:01,768 - Jerry did what he does best. 1447 01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:05,424 He cocked that left hand behind his head. 1448 01:13:05,468 --> 01:13:06,860 - I didn't feel anything. 1449 01:13:08,122 --> 01:13:10,864 I didn't feel the ball leave my hand. 1450 01:13:10,908 --> 01:13:13,432 If I would have had an air ball, 1451 01:13:13,476 --> 01:13:15,086 I wouldn't have been surprised. 1452 01:13:16,087 --> 01:13:17,610 I just let it go. 1453 01:13:17,654 --> 01:13:19,612 - [Red] No good, and Leslie Hunter has got it. 1454 01:13:19,656 --> 01:13:21,440 To Ron Miller, they've got a fast break. 1455 01:13:21,484 --> 01:13:24,051 Down to Harkness, he jumps, he shoots, he scores. 1456 01:13:25,836 --> 01:13:28,795 He scores, he scores, he scores! 1457 01:13:28,839 --> 01:13:31,450 - Perfect fast break within seconds. 1458 01:13:31,494 --> 01:13:33,626 And that, to me, was who Loyola was. 1459 01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:36,455 That's how we played, just like that. 1460 01:13:36,499 --> 01:13:37,674 - [Announcer] One second to go, 1461 01:13:37,717 --> 01:13:39,240 and we're going into overtime. 1462 01:13:40,807 --> 01:13:43,810 And the score is all tied, 54 to 54. 1463 01:13:46,291 --> 01:13:47,945 [timer beeping] 1464 01:13:47,988 --> 01:13:49,599 The clock is running with nine seconds, 1465 01:13:49,642 --> 01:13:51,209 Harkness takes it, he makes it. 1466 01:13:51,252 --> 01:13:53,254 It's all tied up. 1467 01:13:53,298 --> 01:13:56,475 [film reel whirring] 1468 01:13:56,519 --> 01:13:57,824 - [John] There was some controversy 1469 01:13:57,868 --> 01:14:01,088 that Ronnie Miller might have gotten away 1470 01:14:01,132 --> 01:14:02,655 with a traveling call. 1471 01:14:03,743 --> 01:14:06,659 - That's true, I gotta say it. 1472 01:14:08,922 --> 01:14:12,752 - There's the Ronnie, he did an extra step. 1473 01:14:12,796 --> 01:14:15,842 - They know what they did, they know what happened. 1474 01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:19,846 - It was so close that nobody in their mind 1475 01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:22,719 as a referee is gonna call that. 1476 01:14:22,762 --> 01:14:25,243 - There was no question in my mind, he walked. 1477 01:14:25,286 --> 01:14:27,419 - Did he get away with something? 1478 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:30,378 Yeah, they didn't blow a whistle. 1479 01:14:32,206 --> 01:14:34,644 - I didn't travel because the ref didn't call it. 1480 01:14:35,906 --> 01:14:39,170 - And the basket's made. We're into overtime. 1481 01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:43,261 [spectators cheering] [upbeat music] 1482 01:14:43,304 --> 01:14:45,350 - [Announcer] It is absolutely a madhouse here. 1483 01:14:45,393 --> 01:14:47,831 And it's all tied, 54-54. 1484 01:14:47,874 --> 01:14:50,007 Loyola getting 33 points in the second half, 1485 01:14:50,050 --> 01:14:51,095 Cincinnati getting 25. 1486 01:14:51,138 --> 01:14:53,793 And Jerry Harkness, who had had 1487 01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:57,231 perhaps his most miserable night in his college career, 1488 01:14:57,275 --> 01:14:58,537 came back to become the hero 1489 01:14:58,581 --> 01:15:00,844 to tie it up with three seconds to go. 1490 01:15:00,887 --> 01:15:03,324 - [Red] But when David comes up against Goliath, 1491 01:15:03,368 --> 01:15:04,717 what can you do? 1492 01:15:04,761 --> 01:15:05,849 There it goes down to Harkness, he's underneath, 1493 01:15:05,892 --> 01:15:07,677 he lays it up, he scores, he scores. 1494 01:15:08,852 --> 01:15:10,767 56 to 54, it's a dilly! 1495 01:15:12,377 --> 01:15:13,944 As the Ramblers are out in front 1496 01:15:13,987 --> 01:15:17,034 for the first time in this ball game. 1497 01:15:17,077 --> 01:15:18,601 - [Ron] What I remember most about the last five minutes 1498 01:15:18,644 --> 01:15:20,211 was that desperation. 1499 01:15:20,254 --> 01:15:22,256 Keep clawing until the bitter end 1500 01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:23,954 and something good will happen. 1501 01:15:25,303 --> 01:15:26,347 - [Announcer] Thacker trying to get one inside, 1502 01:15:26,391 --> 01:15:30,221 he goes to Wilson, and Wilson scores. 1503 01:15:30,264 --> 01:15:33,441 - Imagine playing an entire game 1504 01:15:33,485 --> 01:15:37,228 without any break, and an overtime. 1505 01:15:37,271 --> 01:15:39,491 Those guys had no time to rest. 1506 01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:43,626 They were constantly going. All five. 1507 01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:45,149 - [Announcer] They have gone all the way 1508 01:15:45,192 --> 01:15:46,977 without a substitute. 1509 01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:50,720 And I'm wondering, Tom Hamlin, if this isn't beginning 1510 01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:52,765 to wear on Loyola a little bit. 1511 01:15:52,809 --> 01:15:55,725 - As you get tired, you lose your legs, 1512 01:15:55,768 --> 01:15:59,250 you lose your shot, a lot of things go south. 1513 01:15:59,293 --> 01:16:00,425 - [Announcer] Les Hunter takes his shot, 1514 01:16:00,468 --> 01:16:01,687 it rolls around and goes off. 1515 01:16:01,731 --> 01:16:04,168 And George Wilson grabs it for the Bearcats. 1516 01:16:06,649 --> 01:16:08,389 - At one time, one of the guys came out and says, 1517 01:16:08,433 --> 01:16:10,827 "Chuck, I'm gassed." 1518 01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:14,134 Well, coach said go out there, keep playing. 1519 01:16:14,178 --> 01:16:16,267 - Somebody maybe needs a sub, 1520 01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:18,965 but you don't wanna tinker with that moment. 1521 01:16:19,009 --> 01:16:21,315 No substitutions, that's what it's gonna be. 1522 01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:23,361 - [Red] The lead pass intercepted by Ron Miller. 1523 01:16:23,404 --> 01:16:24,492 Ron Miller intercepted the pass 1524 01:16:24,536 --> 01:16:26,190 and now the Ramblers have got it. 1525 01:16:26,233 --> 01:16:28,148 Action? You better believe it. 1526 01:16:28,192 --> 01:16:30,324 Miller shoots a 20-footer, good. 1527 01:16:30,368 --> 01:16:32,022 Good by Ron Miller. 1528 01:16:32,065 --> 01:16:33,763 - [Lucas] The final minutes of overtime 1529 01:16:33,806 --> 01:16:35,634 felt like a tug-of-war. 1530 01:16:35,678 --> 01:16:37,636 Two teams desperate to win, 1531 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,378 both on the verge of collapse. 1532 01:16:40,421 --> 01:16:42,336 They'd do anything to score. 1533 01:16:42,380 --> 01:16:45,122 Even if it meant taking a play from the other side. 1534 01:16:45,165 --> 01:16:47,559 - [Announcer] To Cincinnati, a long pass to Shingleton, 1535 01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:49,517 he's in the clear. 1536 01:16:49,561 --> 01:16:51,563 He ties it up, 58 to 58. 1537 01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:55,219 [lively upbeat music] 1538 01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:56,568 A minute and a half to go. 1539 01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:01,965 Egan almost loses it. 1540 01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,401 They'll have to jump for it. 1541 01:17:04,358 --> 01:17:07,318 Egan and Shingleton, the two smallest men on the court, 1542 01:17:07,361 --> 01:17:08,885 will jump for it. 1543 01:17:08,928 --> 01:17:12,018 - Jack has no quit in him. 1544 01:17:12,062 --> 01:17:15,369 The fact that Shingleton was a little taller 1545 01:17:15,413 --> 01:17:17,197 didn't make a difference. 1546 01:17:17,241 --> 01:17:19,983 - [Announcer] Shingleton is 5-10 and Egan is 5-9, 1547 01:17:20,026 --> 01:17:23,029 so Cincinnati with a slight height advantage. 1548 01:17:24,204 --> 01:17:26,032 Because believe me, this is a very important jump. 1549 01:17:26,076 --> 01:17:27,904 - [Ron] Jack would fight anybody. 1550 01:17:27,947 --> 01:17:31,298 I mean, he didn't care who you were. 1551 01:17:31,342 --> 01:17:33,474 If you had the ball, he was gonna fight you 1552 01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:35,085 to take the ball. 1553 01:17:35,128 --> 01:17:39,089 - I don't care if the guy was 6-8, that's the way Jack is. 1554 01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:41,831 - [Red] Ball is up and tipped back to Ron Miller. 1555 01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:44,572 He's got it, over to Jerry Harkness. 1556 01:17:44,616 --> 01:17:47,532 - I think it was a misfiring on Shingleton's part 1557 01:17:47,575 --> 01:17:50,883 because he was up too soon before the ball was, 1558 01:17:50,927 --> 01:17:52,232 could be reached. 1559 01:17:52,276 --> 01:17:55,627 And Jack timed it perfectly, luck of the Irish. 1560 01:17:56,497 --> 01:17:58,238 - [Red] Back to Egan, 1:15. 1561 01:17:58,282 --> 01:18:00,501 What would you do? 58-58. 1562 01:18:00,545 --> 01:18:02,678 Would you go for the one? 1563 01:18:02,721 --> 01:18:06,464 - I think everyone knew that the idea was 1564 01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:10,424 to get the ball to Jerry Harkness for the last shot. 1565 01:18:11,469 --> 01:18:13,906 - So we're gonna try to get the ball to Jerry. 1566 01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:15,516 And he should be taking his shot 1567 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,693 with three, four seconds left, 1568 01:18:17,736 --> 01:18:20,826 so there's a chance for a tip in, a rebound, 1569 01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:22,523 but not an opportunity for them 1570 01:18:22,567 --> 01:18:25,309 to get a rebound and go all the way down the court. 1571 01:18:25,352 --> 01:18:26,963 How do we do it? 1572 01:18:27,006 --> 01:18:28,268 - [Red] They're gonna go for one, 1573 01:18:28,312 --> 01:18:29,966 I don't think there's any question about it. 1574 01:18:30,009 --> 01:18:32,316 50 seconds, 49, 48. 1575 01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:34,318 Harkness backing in, he may go, 1576 01:18:34,361 --> 01:18:35,841 now he goes back out to Egan. 1577 01:18:35,885 --> 01:18:39,105 Egan has got the ball, looking around, over to Harkness, 1578 01:18:39,149 --> 01:18:41,804 back to Egan, 38 seconds left to go. 1579 01:18:41,847 --> 01:18:44,589 To Rouse, back to Miller, they're gonna go for the one shot. 1580 01:18:44,632 --> 01:18:47,418 58-58. And this is a twist. 1581 01:18:47,461 --> 01:18:49,986 Cincinnati, the team that always holds the ball, 1582 01:18:50,029 --> 01:18:52,075 they're seeing what it feels like now. 1583 01:18:53,337 --> 01:18:57,080 - The team that normally held the ball 1584 01:18:57,123 --> 01:18:59,909 did not know what to do 1585 01:18:59,952 --> 01:19:02,781 when someone held the ball against them. 1586 01:19:02,825 --> 01:19:04,696 - [Red] Egan over To Harkness. 1587 01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:06,219 Harkness going inside the lane, 1588 01:19:06,263 --> 01:19:08,352 now he goes back out to Miller. 1589 01:19:08,395 --> 01:19:10,267 15 seconds, out to Egan. 1590 01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:11,485 I guarantee you one thing, 1591 01:19:11,529 --> 01:19:13,400 they'll give it Harkness when it's time. 1592 01:19:13,444 --> 01:19:16,664 - Everybody pretty much thought it would come to me. 1593 01:19:16,708 --> 01:19:18,579 - [Red] Miller's got it, out to Rouse. 1594 01:19:18,623 --> 01:19:21,191 Nine, eight, Harkness has got it, here he goes. 1595 01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:22,888 - And I got the ball. 1596 01:19:22,932 --> 01:19:26,631 And he knew I was going left, and I knew it. 1597 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:29,068 But I didn't feel it. 1598 01:19:29,939 --> 01:19:34,204 In the corner of my eye, I saw Hunter open. 1599 01:19:34,247 --> 01:19:36,293 And he can hit that shot. 1600 01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:37,685 - [Jack] Threw it to Les. 1601 01:19:37,729 --> 01:19:40,166 Now we're talking probably three or four seconds. 1602 01:19:40,210 --> 01:19:41,385 - I got nervous. 1603 01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:44,127 Not because Les isn't a great shot, 1604 01:19:44,170 --> 01:19:49,306 but I heard the ball scratch as he took that shot. 1605 01:19:49,349 --> 01:19:51,961 He scratched it with his fingernails. 1606 01:19:52,004 --> 01:19:53,876 - It was a good shot to take. 1607 01:19:53,919 --> 01:19:55,747 - It went off the side of the rim 1608 01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:59,316 and then one of the second best, 1609 01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:01,840 third best moment of my life was seeing Vic 1610 01:20:01,884 --> 01:20:04,016 push that ball back through the basket. 1611 01:20:04,060 --> 01:20:05,278 - [Red] Off the rim, Rouse gets it, 1612 01:20:05,322 --> 01:20:08,325 scores, it's over, it's over! 1613 01:20:08,368 --> 01:20:11,850 We won, we won, we won the ballgame! 1614 01:20:11,894 --> 01:20:13,809 We won the ballgame! 1615 01:20:13,852 --> 01:20:16,115 Oh, we won, Loyola won the ballgame! 1616 01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:20,032 Oh, we won it, we won, 1617 01:20:20,076 --> 01:20:21,947 60 to 58, 60 to 58. 1618 01:20:25,603 --> 01:20:28,998 Rouse gets it, scores, it's over, it's over! 1619 01:20:29,041 --> 01:20:32,305 We won, we won, we won, we won the ballgame! 1620 01:20:32,349 --> 01:20:33,785 - We won, we won. 1621 01:20:36,179 --> 01:20:39,051 - And all of a sudden, we heard these voices, 1622 01:20:39,095 --> 01:20:41,532 marched out on Sheridan Road yelling, 1623 01:20:41,575 --> 01:20:43,664 "We won, we won, we won!" 1624 01:20:43,708 --> 01:20:45,710 I think they went all the way to Evanston, 1625 01:20:45,753 --> 01:20:49,714 like at midnight, oh, so joyous and so joyful. 1626 01:20:49,757 --> 01:20:51,847 [bright music] 1627 01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:53,674 - You just have no idea the pride 1628 01:20:53,718 --> 01:20:55,328 that I have for those guys. 1629 01:20:57,026 --> 01:21:00,029 - It was unbelievable. 1630 01:21:00,072 --> 01:21:03,597 It was good to see the starting five 1631 01:21:03,641 --> 01:21:07,775 get the reward reward that they had earned. 1632 01:21:09,603 --> 01:21:10,866 - [Interviewer] George, how does it feel 1633 01:21:10,909 --> 01:21:13,216 to be a national champion of the NCAA? 1634 01:21:13,259 --> 01:21:14,565 - It's the first time we brought a team 1635 01:21:14,608 --> 01:21:16,132 to the tournament and we just said, 1636 01:21:16,175 --> 01:21:18,047 "Look, we're having a poor first half. 1637 01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:20,788 I know you can beat 'em, let's go out and give it to 'em." 1638 01:21:20,832 --> 01:21:23,487 - [Announcer] And that is the championship for 1963 1639 01:21:23,530 --> 01:21:26,533 and one of the most unbelievable comebacks of all time. 1640 01:21:26,577 --> 01:21:30,798 - America was sitting witness to this evolution of the game 1641 01:21:30,842 --> 01:21:34,715 by seven out of 10 African Americans starting in that game. 1642 01:21:36,282 --> 01:21:38,589 - [Lucas] Loyola did what they set out to do. 1643 01:21:38,632 --> 01:21:40,896 But their win represented so much more. 1644 01:21:42,506 --> 01:21:43,594 The end of the tournament 1645 01:21:43,637 --> 01:21:45,813 marked the beginning of their legacy, 1646 01:21:45,857 --> 01:21:47,554 one that shaped the sport 1647 01:21:47,598 --> 01:21:51,428 and their lives for years to come. 1648 01:21:52,995 --> 01:21:55,606 [bright music] 1649 01:21:57,521 --> 01:22:00,698 [spectators cheering] 1650 01:22:01,612 --> 01:22:04,397 ♪ We're Loyola, we're number one ♪ 1651 01:22:04,441 --> 01:22:08,488 ♪ We're Loyola, we're number one ♪ 1652 01:22:10,142 --> 01:22:11,839 The Ramblers returned home to Chicago 1653 01:22:11,883 --> 01:22:14,625 as champions that March of 1963, 1654 01:22:14,668 --> 01:22:16,496 the first school in the state of Illinois 1655 01:22:16,540 --> 01:22:19,151 to ever win a division one national title. 1656 01:22:19,195 --> 01:22:21,066 - How do you feel after your four years at Loyola? 1657 01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:22,676 - Well, I feel tremendous. 1658 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,808 This is a great thing. 1659 01:22:23,851 --> 01:22:26,637 We won the championship in basketball 1660 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,987 and that's exactly what I wanted. 1661 01:22:29,031 --> 01:22:32,208 [gentle bright music] 1662 01:22:33,818 --> 01:22:36,342 - [Lucas] The win was celebrated not just by Loyola, 1663 01:22:36,386 --> 01:22:39,041 but the entire city of Chicago. 1664 01:22:39,084 --> 01:22:42,000 So Ireland proudly paraded their trophy around town, 1665 01:22:42,044 --> 01:22:44,220 including a barber shop across from campus 1666 01:22:44,263 --> 01:22:47,049 where four of the Iron Five weren't even allowed inside. 1667 01:22:50,574 --> 01:22:53,185 As for Jerry Harkness, after graduating, 1668 01:22:53,229 --> 01:22:55,709 he had a short-lived pro career in the ABA 1669 01:22:55,753 --> 01:22:57,276 before returning to Chicago 1670 01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,670 and finding work as a salesman on the Northside, 1671 01:22:59,713 --> 01:23:00,932 close to campus. 1672 01:23:02,542 --> 01:23:06,024 Now, he was just a young black man trying to build a life. 1673 01:23:06,068 --> 01:23:09,985 [gentle bright music continues] 1674 01:23:10,028 --> 01:23:13,423 - I could see all of those people out there 1675 01:23:13,466 --> 01:23:16,817 cheering as we won the national title. 1676 01:23:16,861 --> 01:23:20,038 Then when it got time to just move, 1677 01:23:20,082 --> 01:23:23,476 I could not get a place to stay. 1678 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,305 And they came up with all kind of excuses. 1679 01:23:27,306 --> 01:23:28,699 I was being discriminated against, 1680 01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:30,657 there was no doubt about it. 1681 01:23:32,398 --> 01:23:35,271 - [Lucas] The story of the '63 Ramblers made me wonder, 1682 01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:38,622 "What was really different now? 1683 01:23:38,665 --> 01:23:41,799 Did their accomplishments change anything?" 1684 01:23:41,842 --> 01:23:44,497 The answer is complicated, 1685 01:23:44,541 --> 01:23:47,718 but their lasting effect on basketball is clear. 1686 01:23:48,936 --> 01:23:53,289 - [Rich] The '63 team changed the game, 1687 01:23:53,332 --> 01:23:56,422 made it faster, more interesting, 1688 01:23:56,466 --> 01:24:01,471 a lot more fun to watch, almost like a ballet. 1689 01:24:02,602 --> 01:24:06,606 [gentle bright music continues] 1690 01:24:08,304 --> 01:24:10,915 - It was the beginning of modern basketball. 1691 01:24:11,785 --> 01:24:14,875 - That changed the landscape of college sports. 1692 01:24:14,919 --> 01:24:17,052 We were able to work together 1693 01:24:17,095 --> 01:24:20,055 with all this diversity and come out a winner. 1694 01:24:20,098 --> 01:24:22,231 And then common sense would tell us, 1695 01:24:22,274 --> 01:24:24,494 "Well, can't we do that in society as well?" 1696 01:24:24,537 --> 01:24:27,584 [somber music] 1697 01:24:27,627 --> 01:24:32,589 [people yelling] [dogs barking] 1698 01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:39,509 - [Jerry] One part of America was making changes. 1699 01:24:39,552 --> 01:24:40,945 - [Reporter] Texas Western takes 1700 01:24:40,988 --> 01:24:43,643 the first major sports title the school has ever won. 1701 01:24:43,687 --> 01:24:45,732 - And the other part was not. 1702 01:24:48,431 --> 01:24:53,175 I got involved in the Civil Rights Movement after school. 1703 01:24:53,218 --> 01:24:56,308 We had an obligation to do something, 1704 01:24:56,352 --> 01:25:00,225 say something about how the situation was. 1705 01:25:03,315 --> 01:25:05,752 - [Lucas] Sports has a way of tearing down barriers 1706 01:25:05,796 --> 01:25:07,580 faster than the rest of society. 1707 01:25:08,799 --> 01:25:12,455 And when athletes use their platform to demand justice, 1708 01:25:12,498 --> 01:25:14,152 they can often turn their victories 1709 01:25:14,196 --> 01:25:15,545 into something much bigger. 1710 01:25:17,851 --> 01:25:19,244 But they can't do it alone. 1711 01:25:21,507 --> 01:25:25,424 [gentle bright music] 1712 01:25:25,468 --> 01:25:28,079 [somber music] 1713 01:25:29,385 --> 01:25:31,082 - [Reporter] The world of college basketball 1714 01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:32,736 has lost a pioneer. 1715 01:25:34,085 --> 01:25:35,565 Jerry Harkness was best known 1716 01:25:35,608 --> 01:25:38,133 for the history he made as a Loyola Rambler. 1717 01:25:39,003 --> 01:25:40,396 Harkness would go on to work 1718 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,615 for the United Way of Central Indiana. 1719 01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:44,965 He helped start the Indiana Black Expo 1720 01:25:45,009 --> 01:25:47,185 and he was the first black sportscaster 1721 01:25:47,229 --> 01:25:49,013 on Indianapolis television. 1722 01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:52,277 Jerry Harkness was 81 years old. 1723 01:25:53,365 --> 01:25:55,976 [solemn music] 1724 01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:59,371 - During the 1963 season, 1725 01:25:59,415 --> 01:26:01,982 we see numerous stories being told. 1726 01:26:02,026 --> 01:26:04,985 And the obvious one is a story about a team, 1727 01:26:05,029 --> 01:26:07,292 a team with four black players. 1728 01:26:07,336 --> 01:26:10,382 And they play well and they win. 1729 01:26:11,296 --> 01:26:14,908 And the story doesn't stop. 1730 01:26:14,952 --> 01:26:17,694 Because the story's not just about basketball. 1731 01:26:17,737 --> 01:26:20,784 This story is about the worth of an athlete, 1732 01:26:20,827 --> 01:26:22,612 the worth of a black man, 1733 01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,354 their place in society and what they can demand. 1734 01:26:26,398 --> 01:26:27,704 - It's just a tremendous honor 1735 01:26:27,747 --> 01:26:32,143 for all the team members to be recognized. 1736 01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:36,452 It's a chance to see the effect that you've had 1737 01:26:36,495 --> 01:26:38,280 on some of the people that played, 1738 01:26:38,323 --> 01:26:41,848 some of the black players that we opened some doors for. 1739 01:26:41,892 --> 01:26:45,374 - We are extremely proud of you. 1740 01:26:45,417 --> 01:26:49,116 You represent the university 1741 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,771 and yourselves extremely well. 1742 01:26:51,815 --> 01:26:55,035 - We try to do our best to just imitate you guys 1743 01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,690 and like what you guys have done. 1744 01:26:57,734 --> 01:27:01,738 - The best we can do is say this is to be continued. 1745 01:27:01,781 --> 01:27:03,957 It is a work in progress. 1746 01:27:04,001 --> 01:27:07,047 It is a project that's not yet ended. 1747 01:27:07,091 --> 01:27:08,440 To make our country one 1748 01:27:08,484 --> 01:27:10,747 that's worthy of what these men went through. 1749 01:27:11,748 --> 01:27:12,749 - The most important thing 1750 01:27:12,792 --> 01:27:14,446 is that we keep telling the story. 1751 01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:16,231 Looking back you have a better understanding 1752 01:27:16,274 --> 01:27:18,842 of why we are in the situation that we are in today. 1753 01:27:23,673 --> 01:27:26,241 [solemn music] 1754 01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,636 - [Lucas] One day, hopefully long from now, 1755 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,248 my time playing basketball will come to an end. 1756 01:27:34,292 --> 01:27:36,338 But there will always be more work to do, 1757 01:27:36,381 --> 01:27:38,601 more unwritten rules to break, 1758 01:27:38,644 --> 01:27:40,167 more ways to make the world better 1759 01:27:40,211 --> 01:27:41,517 for the next generation. 1760 01:27:42,387 --> 01:27:44,520 To me, that's the inspiration I think 1761 01:27:44,563 --> 01:27:46,783 we can all carry forward. 1762 01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:49,264 That's the legacy of the '63 Ramblers. 1763 01:27:51,048 --> 01:27:53,616 [gentle music] 1764 01:27:57,402 --> 01:28:00,579 [gentle bright music] 1765 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,483 [gentle bright music continues] 1766 01:29:00,552 --> 01:29:04,556 [gentle bright music continues] 1767 01:29:30,408 --> 01:29:34,369 [gentle bright music continues] 1768 01:30:00,307 --> 01:30:04,311 [gentle bright music continues] 132687

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