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[soft bright music]
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[dramatic music]
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- [Lucas] They call it
March Madness for a reason.
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[spectators cheering]
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And every tournament is better
with an underdog, right?
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[spectators cheering]
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- [Reporter] The hottest thing
in Chicago sports right now
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isn't the Cubs, the Sox, the
Bulls, or the Blackhawks.
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- [Announcer] Here comes
the player of the year
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of the MVC, he rises, oh!
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- [Reporter] It's the Loyola
Ramblers.
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- [Announcer] And the dream is
alive!
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[players cheering]
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- [Lucas] But our journey
was more important
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than the buzzer beaters.
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- [Announcer] Townes for three,
yes!
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- [Lucas] With every round we
advanced,
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we were reminded of our past.
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[gentle upbeat music]
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- [Announcer] Away we go,
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Loyola Chicago controls the tip.
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- [Red] Egan, Egan to Harkness,
turnaround jumper's good.
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Jerry made his first basket,
he made it, he might do it.
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- When you study the
early days of basketball,
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Loyola Chicago sticks out.
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The youth of America, they need
to know
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what that generation went
through,
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and they need to carry the
baton.
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- Jerry Harkness was the captain
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of that Loyola team and joins us
now.
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What a pleasure it is to meet
you, sir.
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- It's a pleasure to be here.
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- [Announcer] Custer looking
for help, gets it, Williamson.
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[spectators cheering]
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- [Lucas] My name is Lucas
Williamson.
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I was a freshman in 2018
when the Loyola Ramblers
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made it to the Final Four,
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for the first time in 55 years.
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We were always told how
the '63 team made history,
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but it was in the forgotten
details
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that I found a deeper
connection.
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- [Ross] My absolute
and unshakeable stance
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for segregation of the
races at all levels.
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- [Man] Go home, nigger.
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- This is not 200 years ago.
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These are our fathers and our
grandfathers
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that have gone through this.
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- This was more than a
game, this was history.
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- [Lucas] It's time the rest of
the world
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hears their whole story,
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about those who changed the
game,
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by playing it their way.
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[gentle dramatic music]
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[gentle bright music]
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The story of any great
team begins with the coach.
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And in this case, a day
he would never forget.
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- It is very hard for me to
think back to that day in 1959.
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I was in nursing school at
Loyola.
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And I came out of class the one
day,
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and it was just a regular
kind of autumn day.
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My dad was George Ireland.
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He was the Loyola
University basketball coach.
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There was something
different about Dad that day.
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I don't know if something
happened at practice, at school,
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but I walked over towards Dad's
office
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and I looked up and I thought,
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"Well, what on Earth can that
be?"
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And it was a hanging effigy of
my father.
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I thought, "How could
someone do that to my dad?"
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- [John] There were chants,
"Get rid of Ireland."
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"We need a new coach."
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- Those students were totally
unhappy.
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They wanted him out.
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His job was in jeopardy
because he was losing.
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- We played hard, but we
didn't have a lot of talent.
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He had to start bringing new
players in.
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- George Ireland had to
confront all this stuff.
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He knew if he kept going
the way he was going,
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he was done as a coach.
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[bright upbeat music]
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The one thing about basketball
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is all you need is that
backboard and hoop, and a ball.
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In cities where there's a big
population,
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not much space, well,
it's the perfect game.
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- The best players in the
country were from Harlem.
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They were playing a style of
basketball
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that was up-tempo and
fast-paced.
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- [Michael] One of the best ways
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that I've heard it described
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is the old school basketball
was played on the floor
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and modern basketball
was played in the air.
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[bright upbeat music]
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- It felt like the early
style of basketball
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was like some sort of
exercise in calisthenics.
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You know, people stretching
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and there wasn't very
much athleticism to it.
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- [Rick] George Ireland was
losing, teams weren't very good.
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We're playing staid,
feet-in-the-mud-in-concrete
basketball.
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And it's time to change.
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These black players were
changing the game
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and they were making it so
exciting.
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- This was a time when
superstars
were heavily recruited.
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[bright upbeat music continues]
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Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar
Robertson,
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everybody knew who these guys
were,
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a lot of coaches wanted them.
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But for the next tier of players
down,
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black guys who were merely
excellent basketball players,
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nobody wanted them.
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- For the black athlete, the
landscape
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of these kids playing
on university campuses
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or in the NBA just wasn't there.
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George Ireland was thinking
about job security.
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He just wanted to win and
he didn't care who you were.
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[bright upbeat music continues]
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- My father, Jerry Harkness,
was born in Harlem, New York.
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And he lived in very harsh
conditions in the projects.
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He's ultra competitive,
and I've always wondered
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where did that competitive
drive come from?
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The resilience?
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- [Lucas] As a child in the
1940s,
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Jerry remembers his own father
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returning home from the war a
hero.
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But the fanfare faded, and soon
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he was just a young black
man trying to build a life.
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- He did everything to try to
get work.
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The more Italian and Irish come
in,
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the less work he would have.
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He could not take that
pressure and he left us.
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My mom was a go-getter,
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and she pretty much had
to be when my dad left.
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And I could see her really
trying to keep it all together.
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- [Lucas] The financial
stress was overwhelming.
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At one point, his mother
had a mental breakdown
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and admitted herself
into Bellevue Hospital.
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- When she got out, I
looked her in the eyes.
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I knew that we were gonna be all
right.
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She said, "I'm gonna get a
job, we're gonna make it.
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We're not gonna depend on
anybody but the three of us."
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To see her go through
what she went through,
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I said, "If she can do things
like that, I can make it."
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[solemn music]
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- [Lucas] Young Jerry
loved playing basketball
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on the streets of Harlem,
but he never figured
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he was good enough to
make his high school team.
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To him, the game was an escape.
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And when he'd save up a quarter,
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he'd go practice alone at the Y.
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[basketball thudding]
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- I could still see myself
bouncing back and forth,
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and then going up for the shot,
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saying "Good, we win."
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All of a sudden, a guy
hit me on my shoulder,
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and he said, "Hey, you're pretty
good."
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My eyes got wide, my mouth
jumped open.
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It was my hero,
[spectators cheering]
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Jackie Robinson.
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So when a guy like that
tells me I'm not that bad,
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maybe he's right.
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I said, "I'm going out for the
team."
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My coach, he asked me,
"Are you set for college?"
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I said, "No, I don't have any
offer."
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He said, "We're gonna work on
that."
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George Ireland was coming up to
Harlem
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to watch the ball players.
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My coach told him, "There's a
guy here
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that doesn't have the
recognition
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the other players have because
he only played one year.
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Why don't you give him a
chance?"
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So I was trying to impress this
guy
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like he was the man that had my
future,
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because this was pretty
much my last chance.
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If I don't get this, I'm
finished.
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- [John] And that was the
beginning of Jerry Harkness.
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- [Lucas] With Jerry joining the
Ramblers,
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Coach Ireland developed a
whole new vision for his team.
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- Jerry was a speedster.
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- My father was a great track
athlete
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prior to becoming a basketball
player.
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- [John] We had to run two
miles every day before practice
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because of Harkness,
because he loved running.
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- I remember one coach said,
"Put the ball on the floor.
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Now pick it up. Jerry Harkness
just scored a bucket."
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- Jerry was kind of in command.
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You could see the growth
that was happening.
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- [Ron] And that was the
best season he had had
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in about five or six
years, that saved him.
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And then we came along.
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- Ireland took me to a St.
Rita's game.
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And I'm looking at the game and
I said,
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"I know why he got me here."
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He didn't tell me who he was
scouting,
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but I was looking at these
brothers,
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the center and the forward.
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They were 6-10, they were tough.
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At the end of the game, he said,
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"What did you think of the
little guard?"
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[upbeat music]
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- I was from St. Rita's high
school, born in Chicago.
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I loved basketball
because I was good at it.
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- I said to myself, "This
guy's not a ball player."
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I was wrong about that.
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- [Jerald] Don't let Jack
Egan's size fool you.
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He's incredibly athletic.
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- Jack Egan is no nonsense.
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He knows what he wants
and he is going to get it.
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- [Jack] And it's important
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that you are not gonna be
intimidated.
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I needed some physical
contact with the other team
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even though it was basketball.
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I think I was fouled more
often than anybody else.
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- Les Hunter and Vic Rouse
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both came from Nashville,
Tennessee.
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I've heard Vic and Les be
referred to as a package deal.
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- Mr. Ireland did not recruit
Les Hunter,
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he recruited Vic Rouse.
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Vic Rouse said to him,
"If I come to your school,
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can Les come with us?"
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He said, "Of course."
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He didn't realize he had a
diamond.
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- [Jack] Les Hunter may have
been
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the most talented player on the
team.
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- [Jerald] Vic and Les were the
bigs.
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They brought that
menacing athletic height.
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[upbeat music]
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Ronnie Miller came from New
York,
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a very similar area that
my father came from.
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- When coach met my mother the
first time,
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he completely ignored me.
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He promised that any kid
that went to his school
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for four years would graduate.
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- George Ireland gave his
sales pitch to the parents,
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not to the kid.
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The kid's looking to
play big time basketball,
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he probably wasn't gonna
go to Loyola University.
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- [Ron] I was probably
the best defensive player
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on the team, so I could guard
someone
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that was bigger than me.
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- [Rich] You had a group of
extremely talented freshmen.
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- [Jack] I had never played
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with such talented
players before in my life.
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- [Rich] I knew we had something
special.
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- We lost one game as freshmen.
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And the word kinda spread
throughout college basketball
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that Loyola had this
excellent freshmen class.
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Well, we move up to the varsity,
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the reality of big-time
basketball
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kinda hit me in the
face for the first time.
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- [Gary] There was an unwritten
rule
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that racialized who played.
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- How many black players can be
played
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on the court at one time?
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One at home, two when you're
away,
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and three when you're in a
pinch,
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you need that little extra
oomph.
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And it's not written anywhere.
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It's just kind of what the
coaches knew.
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- [Michael] The coaches, if they
didn't
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wanna put black players on the
floor,
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they wouldn't have recruited
them to begin with.
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But American higher education
was overwhelmingly segregated.
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Your student body is 98% white,
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the faculty is 99% white,
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the alumni are 99 1/2% white.
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How many black guys can
you put on the floor
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to represent this lily white
institution
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before you're gonna run into
blowback?
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How far could they go?
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- I value my job, I value my
reputation,
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so I'm not going to push the
system.
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I wonder how many coaches
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were just simply complying
with the status quo.
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- [Lucas] Coach Ireland was
careful.
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He'd bend the rule, but never
break it.
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He consistently played three
black starters at a time,
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but fearing the reaction of
fans and university donors,
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he never played a fourth.
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- [Ron] How George Ireland
played us was when Jerry
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or Les Hunter would be in foul
trouble,
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or needed a break, I would
go in for one of them.
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So I played, but I was
not allowed to start.
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And he'd follow that the whole
year.
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- These athletes were
marginalized
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and they didn't have the same
privileges
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as their white teammates did.
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And it was openly practiced.
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It was openly practiced,
and we didn't have any laws
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to protect individuals
from this kind of behavior.
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In the North, Jim Crow
segregation was practiced,
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it was an unspoken rule, but not
the law.
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But Jim Crow was the law in the
South.
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- My absolute and unshakeable
stance
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for segregation of the
races at all levels.
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[audience clapping]
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- [Michael] Ross Barnett was
the governor of Mississippi
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at the time, rabid
segregationist.
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- You gotta understand,
Mississippi
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was incredibly racially
volatile.
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If you even suggested something
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that included integration,
it could be life-threatening.
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It was that bad.
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- [Lucas] In his fight
to preserve segregation
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in the early 1960s, Governor
Barnett
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made a special target out of
state sports,
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denouncing any competition
between white and black
athletes.
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One team falling under his rule
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were the Mississippi State
Bulldogs,
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led by Coach Babe McCarthy.
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For three of the previous four
seasons,
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Mississippi State won
the SEC Championship,
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earning a spot in the NCAA
tournament.
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And each time, Coach
McCarthy did as he was told
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by the Governor and turned it
down.
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- We grew up doing what
we were told to do.
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To not be able to go to the
tournament,
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the attitude of some of the
guys was, why do we even play?
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We only wanted to go for one
reason,
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and that was to compete and
be the best we could be.
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- When you think about
Mississippi,
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you have to remember that
the world was different.
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The country was different.
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And we had to deal with
things differently.
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Racism in sports was not a new
thing,
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it was a part of the life that
we lived.
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- In 2001, I was a grad student
at Loyola
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as a oral historian, and I
started talking to the players,
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and I started hearing
about their experiences.
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And I tied that into the context
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of what was happening in
Chicago,
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because Chicago was then and is
now,
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quite a segregated city.
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What was it like for these guys?
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- One of the most surprising
things that I have found out,
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is things that were going on
in the minds of my teammates
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that I did not know was
going on in their mind then.
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In particular, someone
who I'm very close to,
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Jerry Harkness.
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When I first met him,
he was very standoffish.
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For more than a year,
we had no relationship
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other than on the basketball
court.
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If he was in the locker room,
I wouldn't acknowledge him.
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- Jack Egan actually played
my mother's high school
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in basketball, which was a black
team.
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And the kids from St. Rita
treated my mom's school
terribly.
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- [Jerry] She told me
that St. Rita's was racist
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and they would throw garbage
cans at you.
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I just drew a conclusion on him
early on.
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- [Jack] I grew up in a
neighborhood that was all white.
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It was mostly Irish, Polish and
Italian.
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- Marquette Park was
known as the neighborhood
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that most vehemently resisted
the housing initiatives
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that Martin Luther King
came to Chicago to promote.
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It was a place where
blacks were not welcome.
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You could be chased down and
even beaten.
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- [Martin] I've been
in many demonstrations
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all across the South, but I can
say
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that I have never seen,
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even in Mississippi and Alabama,
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mobs as hostile and as
hate-filled
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as I'm seeing in Chicago.
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- When I would go home
from Loyola University
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to go back to my neighborhood
on the Southside,
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a lot of my friends had
the same kind of notion
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that the black players
on the team needed me
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because I was the brains of the
outfit.
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You know who is? Les Hunter.
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- There's always been
stereotypes about black athletes
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that they are all athlete,
very little smarts.
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- African American players were
described
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as tremendous athletes, you
know, a physical specimen.
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Whereas a lot of the white
players
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were described as crafty, smart.
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You didn't have to be that aware
to know
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what they were trying to say.
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[solemn music]
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- [Lucas] Of all the players
at the center of this story,
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I never had the chance to
meet Les Hunter or Vic Rouse.
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Vic died in 1999 and Les passed
away
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during the making of this film.
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In many ways, Les and Vic
embodied Loyola at their best.
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Les was the team's top player
and Vic was their top student.
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And when Les missed a shot,
Vic was there to tip it in.
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For me, team chemistry is
everything,
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but you have to earn that trust.
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That was true for Jack and
Jerry, but in Les and Vic,
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the Ramblers always had
an example to follow.
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- [Rich] The program had been
under fire.
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I saw an opportunity to be
a part of the resurgence.
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You have Loyola that no one
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had ever paid attention to
before.
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If we're going to compete
nationally,
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what we have to do is get past
race.
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- We weren't ranked, we weren't
a team
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that people were looking at.
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We were an independent school,
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so we weren't the preseason
pick for anything.
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- [Lucas] In the 1961, '62
season,
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Ireland no longer had to
rely on Jerry's speed alone.
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Now, his whole team could run.
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- [Ron] Almost immediately
we developed this style
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of a rebound, a pass and a
basket.
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- Get down and score before the
defense
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had a chance to set up.
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That's all it was.
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And that's run-and-gun
basketball.
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[bright music]
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- Ireland believed in playing
his starters a long time.
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- [Michael] In the '61, '62
season, the team consisted
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of Egan, and a guy named
Mike Gavin, Jerry Harkness,
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Les Hunter and Vic Rouse.
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Ireland's coaching style with
that team
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was just standing aside
and letting them run.
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His genius as a coach was to
just let them play their game.
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[upbeat music]
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- [Ron] In the pros they
call it a motion offense,
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where someone is always moving.
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If you didn't stay with us,
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we would score an easy basket.
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- The Ramblers had some games in
the South
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and they ran into some of the
hard truths
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of US race relations.
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- [Ron] The famous trip to New
Orleans
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where George Ireland, at the
last minute,
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told us that we would not be
able
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to stay together as a team.
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- [Rich] The black ball
players stayed in Algiers
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in private homes, while the
white players
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stayed in New Orleans in hotels.
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- And he said he didn't know
about it
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until the last minute.
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And I never believed that.
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[somber music]
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We land in New Orleans and the
black guys,
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all of us jump into a cab.
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And Ireland gets in the cab with
us.
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And it was a black driver, and
he said,
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"Sir, you're gonna have
to get out of my cab.
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00:23:03,991 --> 00:23:06,515
It's against the law for a white
person
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to drive in a cab with black
people."
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00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:11,259
And Ireland said, "Well, I'll
pay the fine
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00:23:11,302 --> 00:23:13,130
if you get stopped."
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Driver said, "You don't
understand.
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It's not the fine, I will go to
jail."
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That's how bad it was in 1962.
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- [Rich] When we played
Loyola of New Orleans,
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the shock hit us.
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They had a roped-off section for
coloreds.
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- [Ron] You couldn't talk
back, you couldn't fight back,
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there was nothing you could do
about it.
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- [Rich] But you could express
that anger
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by taking it out on the other
squad.
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[upbeat music]
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The court was an equalizer.
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- After the game, the black
players went off to Algiers.
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And I can honestly say, that was
by far
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the best trip that we had.
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We had no curfew, parties at
night,
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00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:12,363
and the people in the
community were so proud of us,
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they treated us like kings.
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00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:18,065
- [Rich] They sent us two
brand new Pontiacs to drive.
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We had a great time, and we felt
so sorry
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for the white guys.
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- [Ron] But in contrast,
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what it took us to get to that
point.
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I felt offended by some of
the things that occurred.
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- [Lucas] After the game,
Ireland made headlines
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denouncing New Orleans'
segregation laws,
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vowing that the team would never
return.
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But just a day later, the truth
came out.
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Prior to Loyola's trip,
another school in New Orleans,
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Xavier University, offered
to house the entire team.
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This rare break from the Jim
Crow laws governing the city
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would have allowed all the
white and black players
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to stay together as usual.
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But for reasons that
were never made clear,
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Ireland declined, and chose
instead
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to keep the team segregated.
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When I heard this story from the
players,
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I couldn't believe it.
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It's crazy to me that
any coach would choose
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to separate their team
anywhere for any reason.
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00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:23,043
It's not just unsafe, it's bad
strategy.
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Your team is your family.
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- We had to deal not only with
the racism
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of the South when we
would travel down there,
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we also had to deal with it
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to some degree right
here at our home court.
489
00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,365
[solemn music]
490
00:25:42,715 --> 00:25:45,544
- [Jerald] When you think
about the Loyola story,
491
00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:50,549
you inevitably come to
a very complex topic.
492
00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,424
- We all kinda knew our place.
493
00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,339
It doesn't sound right when you
say that,
494
00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:00,646
it sounds terrible when you say
that.
495
00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:04,040
I just mean that as people, we
kinda knew
496
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,129
what we had to do to survive.
497
00:26:07,174 --> 00:26:12,135
- They wanted us to be
available as tokens.
498
00:26:13,223 --> 00:26:16,400
For example, if they
had a party on campus,
499
00:26:16,444 --> 00:26:19,012
they wanted us to stand on the
walls,
500
00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:20,753
you know, and be there.
501
00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:23,190
But we weren't supposed
to dance with the girls,
502
00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:25,496
we weren't supposed to
talk with the girls.
503
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:29,239
And if they come to us
and ask us to dance,
504
00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:31,502
we even had Jesuit priests who
said,
505
00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:33,330
"No, you don't do that."
506
00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:35,724
[solemn music continues]
507
00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:39,075
- The priests had a job
and part of their job
508
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,644
was making sure the students
were safe.
509
00:26:42,688 --> 00:26:46,430
And unfortunately the black male
body
510
00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:50,521
has often been considered,
just by existing, unsafe.
511
00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:54,917
- [Lucas] I guess I expected to
hear
512
00:26:54,961 --> 00:26:57,877
the '63 guys faced
discrimination
when traveling south,
513
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,314
or maybe even on the court by
opponents,
514
00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,795
but to know that they were
also disrespected at home
515
00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,579
makes me furious.
516
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,494
And on a call between our two
teams,
517
00:27:06,537 --> 00:27:08,670
we got an opportunity to talk
about it.
518
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:12,152
- Then I remember, and the
other guys will remember this,
519
00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:15,677
we could not go to the barber
shop
520
00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:18,375
right across Sheridan Road.
521
00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:21,422
They would not cut black guys'
hair.
522
00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,293
- You couldn't get a haircut on
campus?
523
00:27:23,337 --> 00:27:26,383
Like, you had to go somewhere
else to get a haircut?
524
00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:29,952
- I guess again, I was blind
to what they were experiencing.
525
00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:32,346
Just assumed everything was
great.
526
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:37,090
- In the '60s, we didn't
express ourselves.
527
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,093
'Cause I really don't think
we knew how to talk about it.
528
00:27:40,136 --> 00:27:42,835
- You know, the average person
might look at it and say,
529
00:27:42,878 --> 00:27:45,185
"That's not, that's not racism."
530
00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:47,056
But it is.
531
00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:50,843
- They're going to have to
swallow their discontent.
532
00:27:50,886 --> 00:27:52,671
They're going to have
to swallow their hurts.
533
00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:55,325
Because the moment they
start making waves,
534
00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:57,458
the moment they start asking for
things
535
00:27:57,501 --> 00:28:01,070
that they know they should
have, they're no longer
536
00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,943
just these wonderfully
respectable young men
537
00:28:03,986 --> 00:28:07,033
that we would be so
happy to have amongst us.
538
00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:09,992
There was a mold that they
needed to fit.
539
00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,734
Not the angry team, not the
frustrated,
540
00:28:12,778 --> 00:28:16,912
they were classy, and oh
look, how acceptable they are.
541
00:28:18,522 --> 00:28:22,396
That might be why they're not
loud and they're not vocal.
542
00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:27,967
- It makes you feel completely
isolated.
543
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:32,667
It is a very hard thing to face.
544
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,670
What you say is nothing,
what you think is nothing.
545
00:28:36,932 --> 00:28:40,631
That's what it feels like
to be discriminated against.
546
00:28:40,675 --> 00:28:43,722
You're invisible, you don't
exist.
547
00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:46,986
You don't exist.
548
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,209
- Toward the end of the season,
549
00:28:53,253 --> 00:28:54,776
Ron Miller began playing
550
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,996
a more prominent role on the
team.
551
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,520
He was scoring a lot, and at one
point,
552
00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,827
Ireland pulled him aside to tell
him
553
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:03,393
why he wasn't starting.
554
00:29:03,437 --> 00:29:05,439
And he didn't really tell him,
he said,
555
00:29:05,482 --> 00:29:08,268
"But you know, you understand
what it is."
556
00:29:08,311 --> 00:29:09,922
And Miller did understand.
557
00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:14,448
Ireland didn't wanna have the
fourth black guy on the court.
558
00:29:14,491 --> 00:29:17,016
- It was so obvious to
everyone around the team
559
00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,582
and everyone at Loyola,
560
00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:22,543
that we should have had
four blacks starting.
561
00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:24,980
You keep in mind, I'm coming off
the bench
562
00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:26,895
and I was averaging double
figures.
563
00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:31,813
So that tells you that maybe,
I should have been starting.
564
00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:33,946
- [Rich] The one white
boy that he was starting
565
00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:38,602
over Ron Miller had no business
starting.
566
00:29:38,646 --> 00:29:41,780
And he knew it and every boy
knew it.
567
00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:46,175
- [Lucas] In 1962, Loyola went
21 and 3,
568
00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:48,656
earning a bid to the National
Invitation Tournament
569
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,658
at Madison Square Garden in New
York.
570
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:54,053
With two Harlem natives on his
team,
571
00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:55,489
Ireland saw an opportunity
572
00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:58,709
to lure the next generation
of local recruits.
573
00:29:58,753 --> 00:30:01,800
- We had advanced to the
semis playing Dayton.
574
00:30:02,713 --> 00:30:04,846
And what really surprised me
575
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:08,632
was that Coach Ireland changed
the lineup.
576
00:30:10,025 --> 00:30:11,505
- [Ron] He wanted to start me
577
00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,856
because he was recruiting
heavy out of New York City.
578
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,336
Local papers made a big deal
579
00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:18,904
that I was coming back
to Madison Square Garden.
580
00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:22,516
Two New York kids, me and Jerry
Harkness.
581
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,431
- So he has to play Miller
582
00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:28,130
and he has to play me
because we're in New York.
583
00:30:28,174 --> 00:30:33,266
So he takes out 6-8, 6-9 Hunter.
584
00:30:33,309 --> 00:30:35,703
- [Michael] He brought
Miller in for Les Hunter.
585
00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:37,879
Best ball player on the team.
586
00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,012
- [John] Dayton was a hell of a
team.
587
00:30:40,055 --> 00:30:42,231
And we were getting beat up
pretty bad.
588
00:30:43,145 --> 00:30:47,323
- Take out Les Hunter and
we're smaller, much smaller.
589
00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:50,152
It just put us in a bad
situation.
590
00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:53,764
- [Lucas] Ron Miller was
the Ramblers' high scorer
591
00:30:53,808 --> 00:30:56,942
in the game, but without
Hunter in the lineup,
592
00:30:56,985 --> 00:30:59,292
Loyola was just outmatched.
593
00:30:59,335 --> 00:31:01,729
- [Ron] So we lost to them.
594
00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:04,210
We had to play another game
after that,
595
00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:06,081
which was a consolation game.
596
00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:07,909
And we played Duquesne
University,
597
00:31:07,953 --> 00:31:11,608
which was a very good
basketball school in those days.
598
00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:12,871
- [Rich] And you have to
remember
599
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,917
that Mr. Ireland was in
difficulty.
600
00:31:16,962 --> 00:31:19,573
He could not afford to lose.
601
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,882
- Ireland was not trying
to be an activist.
602
00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:26,928
George Ireland was thinking
about winning ball games.
603
00:31:26,972 --> 00:31:30,410
- And that was the game
where Ireland chose
604
00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,326
not to play the senior, Mike
Gavin,
605
00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:37,025
and inserted Ron Miller
as the other guard.
606
00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:41,334
- [Jerry] He put the
best team on the court.
607
00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:45,729
- [Gary] He broke the code.
608
00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,993
[dramatic music]
609
00:31:48,036 --> 00:31:52,823
- When we won the consolation
game, from there on,
610
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,695
he played four black guys.
611
00:31:56,305 --> 00:31:59,526
- [Lucas] On that historic
night, the Iron Five were born.
612
00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,877
For the Loyola Ramblers,
613
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,140
there would be no turning back.
614
00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:06,185
- [Interviewer] Let me ask you
this,
615
00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:08,622
do you ever get crank phone
calls?
616
00:32:08,665 --> 00:32:13,627
- [Gertrude] Well, they
criticize
who he's got on his team.
617
00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:16,586
As you know he has a Negro ball
club.
618
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:19,763
And we get letters on that.
619
00:32:19,807 --> 00:32:20,939
- [Interviewer] Well, that's
terrible.
620
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:23,332
The rest of the world could take
a cue
621
00:32:23,376 --> 00:32:25,726
from on integration is how
well these kids get along
622
00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:26,988
together on the basketball
court.
623
00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:28,250
- [Gertrude] That's right.
624
00:32:29,556 --> 00:32:31,123
- [Lucas] With his new starting
five set
625
00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,822
for the 1962, '63 season,
there was plenty of fallout
626
00:32:34,865 --> 00:32:36,867
for George Ireland and his
family.
627
00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:38,913
But with his eyes on a national
title,
628
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,002
the coach had come too far to
turn back.
629
00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:45,311
Meanwhile, there was
another team down south
630
00:32:45,354 --> 00:32:46,790
with their eyes on the title.
631
00:32:48,444 --> 00:32:51,230
- I was always fascinated
about the psychology
632
00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:53,841
of the Mississippi State
basketball team.
633
00:32:53,884 --> 00:32:55,451
You're feeling a lot of pressure
634
00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:58,454
if your programs aren't
performing well, if you're
losing.
635
00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:01,109
The irony is that Mississippi
State was winning.
636
00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:04,547
And the more they won, the
more pressure they faced.
637
00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:06,985
- Our governor in
particular just didn't think
638
00:33:07,028 --> 00:33:09,509
we ought to be playing
against black players.
639
00:33:09,552 --> 00:33:12,120
We never imagined that we would
get to go
640
00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,080
to the NCAA tournament in '63.
641
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:16,995
- Young people are often a
product
642
00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:20,781
of a dysfunctional
situation, taught things
643
00:33:20,824 --> 00:33:22,652
that they shouldn't be taught.
644
00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:25,873
And it's not until they
actually experience
645
00:33:25,916 --> 00:33:28,441
a different set of circumstances
646
00:33:28,484 --> 00:33:31,313
that they can appreciate what
should be.
647
00:33:32,358 --> 00:33:34,925
- [Lucas] In Mississippi, if
you opposed Governor Barnett
648
00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:36,971
and the racism of Jim Crow laws,
649
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:39,974
you were all but guaranteed
a prison sentence.
650
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:41,280
Or maybe even worse,
651
00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:43,282
with the state's long
history of lynchings.
652
00:33:45,806 --> 00:33:48,069
But despite those very real
threats,
653
00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:51,072
just 100 miles from the
Mississippi State campus,
654
00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:54,641
there was someone still
brave enough to fight back.
655
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,295
- [Reporter] The enrollment
of James Meredith,
656
00:33:56,338 --> 00:33:58,253
the first African American to
attend
657
00:33:58,297 --> 00:34:00,951
on the campus of Ole Miss.
658
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:04,303
That night a riot broke
out, hundreds were injured.
659
00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:05,521
Two people died
660
00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:08,176
as protesters tried to stop a
black man
661
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:11,353
from attending a
tax-supported state school.
662
00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:14,922
- James Meredith, who
was a Mississippi native
663
00:34:14,965 --> 00:34:17,533
and a veteran, applied to enter
664
00:34:17,577 --> 00:34:19,970
the University of Mississippi,
Ole Miss.
665
00:34:20,014 --> 00:34:21,494
Ross Barnett said
666
00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:25,541
that Meredith would enter
Ole Miss over his dead body.
667
00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:29,502
- His admission caused a
riot of such magnitude,
668
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:32,505
the president called out
National Guard troops
669
00:34:32,548 --> 00:34:34,246
to come put the riot down.
670
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,118
- [Reporter] Immediately
following the mass panic,
671
00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,425
the college infirmary was
besieged
672
00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:43,081
with injured persons,
officers and students.
673
00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:44,560
- People died.
674
00:34:44,604 --> 00:34:46,693
It's hard to believe that ever
happened,
675
00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,999
but it damn sure did.
676
00:34:50,523 --> 00:34:52,612
- [Lucas] As the dust
settled after the riots,
677
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,832
James Meredith successfully
enrolled at Ole Miss.
678
00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:57,660
Another small piece of progress
679
00:34:57,704 --> 00:34:59,445
in the Civil Rights Movement.
680
00:34:59,488 --> 00:35:01,621
And while figures like
Babe McCarthy were left
681
00:35:01,664 --> 00:35:04,189
to grapple with what
it meant on his campus,
682
00:35:04,232 --> 00:35:07,409
back in Chicago, they were
listening too.
683
00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,063
- [Rich] Things were starting to
change,
684
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:10,934
but not rapidly enough.
685
00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:17,245
We would sit up in my
room around this radio,
686
00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:20,770
listening and cheering for
people
687
00:35:20,814 --> 00:35:24,122
who were doing things
to make a difference.
688
00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:25,340
- We were in the middle
689
00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:28,300
of the Civil Rights Movement and
Dr. King.
690
00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:30,911
The emphasis was put on them,
691
00:35:30,954 --> 00:35:34,828
but we in the background
were making changes too.
692
00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:36,221
[upbeat music]
693
00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:38,658
- We really started the season
with,
694
00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:40,529
not just a good team, but a
great team.
695
00:35:40,573 --> 00:35:44,751
We had seven guys who
legitimately could start.
696
00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:46,144
- They were the highest scoring
team
697
00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:47,362
in the country that year.
698
00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:49,190
They knew exactly what the next
step
699
00:35:49,234 --> 00:35:51,410
of the other was going to be.
700
00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:54,239
- There was something
electric that happened to us.
701
00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:58,591
We just knew that we were
going to be very good.
702
00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,506
- [Jerald] They were bulldozing
teams.
703
00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:02,203
No one could stop them.
704
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:05,511
- In retaliation to
all of this resistance,
705
00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:07,121
they ran up the scores.
706
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:11,343
Send a message, "We're good
and we're good at what we do."
707
00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:12,822
- [Mike] Is this the best team
you've had
708
00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:15,216
in your 12 years as Loyola
coach?
709
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:17,914
- [George] Well, Mike, I
think this is my best team.
710
00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:19,177
- [Mike] Well, there's
no question about it,
711
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,004
you certainly do have an
excellent team.
712
00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:23,790
In fact, you must be ranked
second in the nation.
713
00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:25,357
George Ireland, how do you think
714
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,229
that your Loyola club would
make out against Cincinnati?
715
00:36:28,273 --> 00:36:29,970
- [George] Well, that's a hard
question.
716
00:36:30,013 --> 00:36:33,321
We are an offensive team and
Cincinnati
717
00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:34,888
are a defensive team.
718
00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:36,629
I would like to play Cincinnati
719
00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:38,892
and possibly sometime we will.
720
00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:41,634
- For such a long period of time
we knew
721
00:36:41,677 --> 00:36:44,376
that, somewhere along
the way, we were going
722
00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:47,944
to go up against Cincinnati.
723
00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:51,861
They were the big dogs,
we were the underdogs.
724
00:36:51,905 --> 00:36:54,908
- Cincinnati had become a
machine, a real machine,
725
00:36:54,951 --> 00:36:57,040
under the leadership of Ed
Jucker.
726
00:36:57,084 --> 00:37:00,000
[gentle jaunty music]
727
00:37:00,043 --> 00:37:02,568
- Cincinnati was the
complete opposite of Loyola.
728
00:37:02,611 --> 00:37:05,310
Cincinnati had won two
championships
729
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:08,791
with a very deliberate,
slow-down pace.
730
00:37:08,835 --> 00:37:10,315
When you talk about a team
731
00:37:10,358 --> 00:37:12,926
that wanted to make four
passes before they took a shot,
732
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:16,059
Cincinnati probably
wanted to make six passes.
733
00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:18,453
Something that was not in our
DNA at all.
734
00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,977
- [Lucas] While Loyola
was the fastest team
735
00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:23,284
in college basketball, no one
matched
736
00:37:23,328 --> 00:37:26,244
the slow, tactical pace of
Cincinnati.
737
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,639
At a time when more and
more teams experimented
738
00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:33,686
with running the ball,
Ed Jucker found success
739
00:37:33,729 --> 00:37:35,340
by doing just the opposite.
740
00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:37,429
- [David] Don't shoot
unless you have a good shot.
741
00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:39,344
Hold the ball if you
need to once in a while,
742
00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,563
that was before the days of shot
clock.
743
00:37:41,607 --> 00:37:43,086
- [Michael] Everyone thought he
was crazy
744
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:46,568
until he won his first NCAA
Championship.
745
00:37:46,612 --> 00:37:49,963
They thought he was lucky
until he won his second.
746
00:37:50,006 --> 00:37:53,183
[gentle upbeat music]
747
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,840
- When they got ahead of you by
10 points,
748
00:37:57,884 --> 00:37:59,973
you were probably toast.
749
00:38:00,016 --> 00:38:02,280
- [Lucas] Combined with
the talents of Tom Thacker,
750
00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:04,673
Ron Bonham and George Wilson,
751
00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:07,328
Cincinnati was set to
be the first-ever team
752
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,461
to win three consecutive titles.
753
00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:10,810
- We had the best record.
754
00:38:10,853 --> 00:38:12,202
I don't know what Loyola was,
755
00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:14,683
but they didn't win as
many games as we did.
756
00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:17,033
- [Ron] I mean, Cincinnati
was the monster.
757
00:38:17,077 --> 00:38:18,557
Why would you think that this
small,
758
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,776
Catholic school could beat
Cincinnati?
759
00:38:24,737 --> 00:38:27,043
- [Lucas] Out of everything
I learned about this story,
760
00:38:27,087 --> 00:38:29,132
I was most surprised by
Cincinnati.
761
00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,353
Because for all the
praise given to Ireland
762
00:38:32,397 --> 00:38:34,355
for breaking that unwritten
rule,
763
00:38:34,399 --> 00:38:37,053
I didn't know that Ed
Jucker broke it first,
764
00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:39,795
months before Ireland, winning
a national championship
765
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,581
with four black starters in
1962.
766
00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:45,235
[gentle music]
767
00:38:47,977 --> 00:38:50,110
You might say it was easier for
Cincinnati
768
00:38:50,153 --> 00:38:52,634
since they were already
defending national champs.
769
00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:56,725
But I think it's more likely
that four black starters
770
00:38:56,769 --> 00:39:00,076
with a slow, controlled
game were less threatening
771
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,644
than Loyola's aggressive,
fast-break players.
772
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:06,561
Whatever the explanation is,
773
00:39:06,605 --> 00:39:08,694
these two trailblazing teams
seemed to be
774
00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:11,653
on a clear path to the
championship.
775
00:39:13,307 --> 00:39:15,135
But the season was far from
over,
776
00:39:15,178 --> 00:39:17,659
and Loyola's future
was suddenly uncertain.
777
00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:22,882
- [Michael] Midway through the
season,
778
00:39:22,925 --> 00:39:25,972
Loyola lost three players.
779
00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:29,062
One of them left for financial
reasons.
780
00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:31,978
The other two were New
York playground guys.
781
00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:34,981
They didn't make grades,
and would have gotten
782
00:39:35,024 --> 00:39:38,724
a lot of playing time had
they stayed on the team.
783
00:39:39,942 --> 00:39:42,162
- Everyone was understandably
shocked
784
00:39:42,205 --> 00:39:43,772
when all that happened at once.
785
00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:47,210
We had nine players, that was
it.
786
00:39:47,254 --> 00:39:51,084
It was so awkward just to have
scrimmages
787
00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:53,216
and you have nine people.
788
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:55,436
- [Michael] Their absence
is one of the reasons
789
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,440
that the five starters were
playing virtually every minute.
790
00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:03,401
- [Lucas] The Iron Five were
used to playing nonstop.
791
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:06,360
But now, even when Loyola took
big leads,
792
00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:09,189
Ireland refused to give
any of them a break.
793
00:40:09,232 --> 00:40:10,843
- Some of the games
were complete blowouts.
794
00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,627
We would still be playing, I
mean,
795
00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:16,152
we'd be up by 15, 20 points,
796
00:40:16,196 --> 00:40:18,459
and he would still have
all of us in the game.
797
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:20,635
- We had a 30-point lead at
halftime.
798
00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:24,422
Man, I'm gonna be playing.
799
00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:26,162
[blows raspberry] Never got in.
800
00:40:26,206 --> 00:40:28,861
[solemn music]
801
00:40:28,904 --> 00:40:31,690
- That starting five,
I think he was nervous
802
00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:34,954
when any one of them was off of
the floor.
803
00:40:34,997 --> 00:40:39,567
And it wasn't that we were
incapable of contributing.
804
00:40:39,611 --> 00:40:42,788
People don't realize how good we
were
805
00:40:42,831 --> 00:40:44,833
because they never saw us.
806
00:40:44,877 --> 00:40:49,838
We'd be up 35, 40 points, let's
give the first team a break.
807
00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:54,408
- I was feeling badly because
we had guys on the bench
808
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,192
that weren't getting in.
809
00:40:56,236 --> 00:40:58,891
I said, "Coach, take me out, I'm
tired."
810
00:40:58,934 --> 00:40:59,892
He said, "Stay in."
811
00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:04,157
- [Lucas] Trust me, I can tell
you,
812
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,900
being on the court 40
minutes straight is no joke.
813
00:41:07,943 --> 00:41:11,425
To play that fast-paced style
every game without a sub?
814
00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:14,428
That can break you.
815
00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:20,652
And that season, as the
exhaustion built on the court,
816
00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:22,436
the pressure got to everyone.
817
00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:25,744
- We were in New York playing
St. John's,
818
00:41:25,787 --> 00:41:28,398
Jerry Lyne came out and says,
"George is on the table.
819
00:41:28,442 --> 00:41:30,096
He's coughing up blood."
820
00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:31,837
You know, he had a bleeding
ulcer.
821
00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:33,969
- You know, there were times
822
00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:37,407
when guys out there on
that floor were hurting.
823
00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:39,018
They had been injured.
824
00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:41,847
Vic Rouse had had a shoulder
separation,
825
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,805
and they would have to put it
back in
826
00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:44,937
and tape it up.
827
00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:49,985
When you run a team for 30
games,
828
00:41:50,029 --> 00:41:51,813
you know, iron wears out.
829
00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:57,645
We tried to figure out why
certain things happened.
830
00:41:57,689 --> 00:42:00,039
Why certain things didn't
happen.
831
00:42:00,996 --> 00:42:03,346
But, we loved each other.
832
00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:06,872
Five guys were going to play,
833
00:42:06,915 --> 00:42:09,483
and the other four
834
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:11,877
were going to be supportive of
them.
835
00:42:14,227 --> 00:42:15,924
- [Lucas] Worn down, Loyola
suffered
836
00:42:15,968 --> 00:42:19,014
their only two defeats of the
season late in the schedule.
837
00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:23,149
The struggle for the
Iron Five was increasing.
838
00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:26,413
But the worst was yet to come.
839
00:42:28,197 --> 00:42:31,549
[gentle dramatic music]
840
00:42:37,816 --> 00:42:40,427
- [Jack] The game was in
Houston, Texas.
841
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:42,908
- To me, we were just going
down to play another team.
842
00:42:42,951 --> 00:42:46,520
That's how naive and
ignorant I was back then.
843
00:42:47,913 --> 00:42:50,611
It was a pretty small, confined
gym.
844
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:52,221
It didn't take long to realize
845
00:42:52,265 --> 00:42:54,746
that it was gonna be more
than a basketball game.
846
00:42:55,747 --> 00:42:59,402
- [Jerry] Things started to
unravel.
847
00:42:59,446 --> 00:43:02,884
- [Chuck] I believe everybody
in the stadium was against us.
848
00:43:02,928 --> 00:43:05,278
- The fans were out of control.
849
00:43:06,453 --> 00:43:08,847
- [Jerry] Go back home, get out
of here.
850
00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:10,457
We're gonna get you.
851
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:12,764
- They used the N-word
constantly.
852
00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:15,636
Threw ice, threw things
at us on the court.
853
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,726
- [Jack] The students throwing
stuff,
854
00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:21,120
I mean, they look like me.
855
00:43:22,034 --> 00:43:25,951
Never having experienced
that side of racism,
856
00:43:25,994 --> 00:43:27,953
literally, they're spitting on
us.
857
00:43:27,996 --> 00:43:30,738
This is what you guys go
through on a daily basis?
858
00:43:32,044 --> 00:43:35,830
- I looked to the side,
I didn't see police.
859
00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:37,179
And I started to worry.
860
00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:41,401
- [Rich] There were times during
that game
861
00:43:41,444 --> 00:43:46,449
that we feared for our
lives, it was that bad.
862
00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,889
- All of the sudden, we heard a
loud bang.
863
00:43:50,932 --> 00:43:52,368
[object bangs]
864
00:43:52,412 --> 00:43:55,502
I swear to God, I thought
they were shooting at us.
865
00:43:55,545 --> 00:43:59,637
Somebody took a popcorn bag and
popped it.
866
00:44:00,768 --> 00:44:03,858
- That was one of the worst
experiences on the court
867
00:44:03,902 --> 00:44:06,078
that we experienced as a team.
868
00:44:06,121 --> 00:44:08,515
This is when we talk about
Coach George Ireland.
869
00:44:08,558 --> 00:44:09,951
To me, he should have known
that,
870
00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:12,693
he should not have put
us in those situations.
871
00:44:12,737 --> 00:44:16,479
If he cared, he would not have
put us in those situations.
872
00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:21,093
- Coach Ireland had a lot of
power.
873
00:44:21,136 --> 00:44:23,748
And I'm not just talking about
the power
874
00:44:23,791 --> 00:44:27,490
to play the starters the entire
game.
875
00:44:27,534 --> 00:44:31,233
He had the power to say,
"This is a segregated city,
876
00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:34,280
and things might be a
little scary for you,
877
00:44:34,323 --> 00:44:36,064
but you're gonna play anyway."
878
00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:39,720
And maybe they would have
chosen to play anyway,
879
00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:42,984
but we don't know that, because
they didn't have a choice.
880
00:44:44,333 --> 00:44:46,596
- [Lucas] Through all the
highs and lows of that season,
881
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,902
the game at Houston
882
00:44:47,946 --> 00:44:50,122
left the most lasting
impression on the team.
883
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:54,474
But they won the game, and
for the first time ever
884
00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:57,869
Loyola accepted their invitation
to the NCAA tournament.
885
00:45:01,307 --> 00:45:02,830
The Iron Five were about to face
886
00:45:02,874 --> 00:45:05,398
a whole new level of public
scrutiny
887
00:45:05,441 --> 00:45:08,009
and there was nowhere to
hide from what was coming.
888
00:45:10,229 --> 00:45:12,927
[somber music]
889
00:45:12,971 --> 00:45:14,146
- We get the mail.
890
00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:17,671
On the outside it was KKK.
891
00:45:19,194 --> 00:45:24,156
"You don't belong on the
same floor as white players.
892
00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:26,941
We're gonna kill you."
893
00:45:26,985 --> 00:45:29,291
And I'ma tell you, I was scared
to death.
894
00:45:29,335 --> 00:45:31,032
They know where I live.
895
00:45:31,076 --> 00:45:33,382
They're gonna come to the dorm
and get me.
896
00:45:34,819 --> 00:45:36,516
I called Ireland, I said,
897
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,779
"Ireland, you gotta get over
here."
898
00:45:38,823 --> 00:45:42,087
And he went to the front desk of
the dorm.
899
00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:47,135
"Any mail that comes in for the
ballplayers, give it to me."
900
00:45:48,223 --> 00:45:50,530
- My dad would keep the mail
from them.
901
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,750
He did not want them to read
902
00:45:52,793 --> 00:45:55,535
some of the things that were
sent.
903
00:45:55,578 --> 00:45:57,145
Dad would show it to us at home.
904
00:45:57,189 --> 00:46:00,322
I just could not believe any
human beings
905
00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:04,718
would send stuff like this
to 19, 20-year-old kids.
906
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,983
- I've heard stories of the
letters that he received.
907
00:46:09,027 --> 00:46:10,855
But I personally never
seen any of the letters.
908
00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:13,640
I believe that he did receive
letters.
909
00:46:13,683 --> 00:46:16,077
- I was never able to get to the
letters.
910
00:46:16,121 --> 00:46:18,732
In my mind, I had to put
the letters out of my book
911
00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:22,780
because I couldn't prove them.
912
00:46:24,346 --> 00:46:27,959
- There's three like this
that are all closed up.
913
00:46:29,134 --> 00:46:34,095
And up in the corner it says,
"Loyola HM," for hate mail.
914
00:46:35,401 --> 00:46:36,750
The way they were signed,
915
00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:40,493
"Uncle Tom," and "KKK," the
N-word.
916
00:46:40,536 --> 00:46:42,974
He said he wanted me to have it
917
00:46:43,017 --> 00:46:45,237
because he knew I would protect
it.
918
00:46:46,716 --> 00:46:51,634
And he said, "Someday, this
history will be alive again.
919
00:46:52,592 --> 00:46:56,509
And maybe then you can show it."
920
00:46:56,552 --> 00:46:59,077
[somber music]
921
00:47:17,225 --> 00:47:19,532
He knew it was the wrong thing
to do,
922
00:47:19,575 --> 00:47:24,102
but he could not let this keep
coming to his ball players.
923
00:47:24,145 --> 00:47:26,234
I thought, "If I can just
protect them,
924
00:47:26,278 --> 00:47:29,020
who needs to know about this
stuff?"
925
00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:32,153
It happened, it's here and I
promised Dad
926
00:47:32,197 --> 00:47:33,633
that I would protect it.
927
00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:37,376
- [Lucas] It's tempting to hide
928
00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:41,902
the worst parts of our
histories, to lock them away,
929
00:47:41,946 --> 00:47:43,469
pretend they don't exist.
930
00:47:45,993 --> 00:47:48,213
Maybe for Ireland, these letters
were seen
931
00:47:48,256 --> 00:47:50,868
as a burden on the players, a
distraction
932
00:47:50,911 --> 00:47:52,391
at the height of their season.
933
00:47:54,306 --> 00:47:56,656
Maybe it was easiest
to just move past them.
934
00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,313
But the problem is, Ireland
didn't.
935
00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:04,882
Among those letters
were threats so severe,
936
00:48:04,925 --> 00:48:06,884
he hired security for his
daughters,
937
00:48:07,797 --> 00:48:10,191
a protection he never offered
his players.
938
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,370
- [Ron] I don't think he thought
at all
939
00:48:15,414 --> 00:48:17,459
about race relations.
940
00:48:17,503 --> 00:48:21,942
I don't think he was
interested in race relations.
941
00:48:21,986 --> 00:48:25,337
I think George Ireland was
thinking about himself,
942
00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:30,037
his family, and winning
basketball games.
943
00:48:31,212 --> 00:48:36,043
I always accepted that
as a part of the times.
944
00:48:36,087 --> 00:48:38,698
I never held that part against
him.
945
00:48:38,741 --> 00:48:42,397
It was important to him
that he was successful.
946
00:48:42,441 --> 00:48:47,141
And by being good to us,
it made him successful.
947
00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,232
- [Lucas] Even through the death
threats,
948
00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:53,931
the Loyola players found
a way to stay focused.
949
00:48:56,585 --> 00:48:59,197
The NCAA tournament was fast
approaching
950
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,721
and Cincinnati was still
expected to win it all.
951
00:49:05,464 --> 00:49:06,682
Though it looked like the
bracket
952
00:49:06,726 --> 00:49:08,728
would have one glaring omission.
953
00:49:08,771 --> 00:49:10,817
[gentle upbeat music]
954
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:13,341
- Mississippi State defeated Ole
Miss
955
00:49:13,385 --> 00:49:16,736
to clinch the Southeastern
Conference Championship,
956
00:49:16,779 --> 00:49:21,219
which gave them the automatic
bid to the NCAA tournament.
957
00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:24,831
The next day, Governor
Barnett issued a statement
958
00:49:24,874 --> 00:49:27,616
that Mississippi State will not
be playing
959
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:29,053
in the NCAA tournament.
960
00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:34,667
- Personally, I feel it is
not for the best interest
961
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:39,715
of Mississippi State University,
or either of the races.
962
00:49:41,804 --> 00:49:44,982
- [Jerald] The governor
had issued an injunction.
963
00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:48,507
- We will do all we can, to
the point of arresting you,
964
00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:51,249
when you get ready to leave
the state of Mississippi.
965
00:49:52,163 --> 00:49:55,340
- The NCAA had no idea where
to put State in their seeding
966
00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:56,776
'cause they didn't know
if State was gonna be able
967
00:49:56,819 --> 00:49:59,518
to make it, even though
they had verbally committed.
968
00:49:59,561 --> 00:50:02,912
- [Lucas] Mississippi State
was given a first-round bye.
969
00:50:02,956 --> 00:50:05,089
Their first opponent would be
the winner
970
00:50:05,132 --> 00:50:07,178
of Loyola versus Tennessee Tech.
971
00:50:09,658 --> 00:50:12,748
- [Rich] People don't realize
the amount of pressure
972
00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:14,446
that we were under.
973
00:50:14,489 --> 00:50:17,666
Not only from the KKK
and the White Knights,
974
00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:19,407
but from our own people.
975
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,063
Blacks across the country,
976
00:50:23,107 --> 00:50:27,067
who were putting their hopes on
us.
977
00:50:27,111 --> 00:50:32,072
That we had to win because
the black community
978
00:50:32,594 --> 00:50:34,466
was counting on us.
979
00:50:36,076 --> 00:50:38,992
- Jerry said that he had black
people calling him saying,
980
00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:41,603
"Hey, you better not lose
to those white boys."
981
00:50:41,647 --> 00:50:43,953
- Come on, you guys,
we're rooting for you,
982
00:50:43,997 --> 00:50:45,346
we're rooting for you.
983
00:50:46,434 --> 00:50:51,396
We got so roused up that
you're gonna be hard to beat.
984
00:50:51,831 --> 00:50:54,312
You're gonna be very hard to
beat.
985
00:50:55,791 --> 00:50:59,447
The first game was against
Tennessee Tech,
986
00:50:59,491 --> 00:51:01,406
an all-white team.
987
00:51:01,449 --> 00:51:04,626
[gentle bright music]
988
00:51:06,367 --> 00:51:08,543
And that poor team.
989
00:51:08,587 --> 00:51:12,417
We went up 30, 40, we beat 'em,
990
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:15,333
and it's still a record, 69
points.
991
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,685
- The final score of that game
992
00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:23,123
is still the greatest
disparity in NCAA history.
993
00:51:23,167 --> 00:51:27,736
- I mean, it's just amazing
the advantage you have
994
00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:29,999
once you're motivated and roused
up.
995
00:51:32,176 --> 00:51:35,135
- [Lucas] The Ramblers were
eager for their next match-up.
996
00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:37,181
But with no word from
Mississippi State,
997
00:51:38,182 --> 00:51:40,532
Loyola had no idea if they'd
show up.
998
00:51:42,969 --> 00:51:44,231
- Their coaches said we're
going,
999
00:51:44,275 --> 00:51:45,841
their president says they're
going,
1000
00:51:45,885 --> 00:51:47,669
but everybody else in
power in the state says,
1001
00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:50,150
"No, you can't."
1002
00:51:50,194 --> 00:51:53,501
These are guys who were
raised to honor authority,
1003
00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:55,851
to obey their elders.
1004
00:51:55,895 --> 00:51:58,071
- You know, we faced jail time
1005
00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:00,900
if we failed to obey the
injunction.
1006
00:52:02,031 --> 00:52:03,076
- [Jackie] The night before the
trip,
1007
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,252
Coach McCarthy did have a team
meeting.
1008
00:52:05,296 --> 00:52:07,646
We talked, he'd said,
1009
00:52:07,689 --> 00:52:09,126
"Here's what we're gonna do."
1010
00:52:11,215 --> 00:52:14,218
[suspenseful music]
1011
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,311
We aimed to leave early the next
morning,
1012
00:52:20,354 --> 00:52:23,531
as early as we could and we
headed out.
1013
00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:27,883
- [Michael] The team was
gonna split into two teams.
1014
00:52:27,927 --> 00:52:30,495
One was the decoy team.
1015
00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:32,975
- They sent our trainer
and six of our players
1016
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:36,501
that didn't play a whole
lot out to the airport.
1017
00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:39,025
- [Robbie] They keep the five
starters and the sixth man
1018
00:52:39,068 --> 00:52:40,331
back at the dorm room.
1019
00:52:40,374 --> 00:52:42,246
- [Jackie] There're two
airports in Starkville.
1020
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:45,249
As a decoy, one group
was going to Bryan Field.
1021
00:52:45,292 --> 00:52:46,728
- [Doug] They went out there to
see
1022
00:52:46,772 --> 00:52:50,428
if there was gonna be an
officer to serve the injunction.
1023
00:52:50,471 --> 00:52:54,649
- In that case, the
trainer with the decoys
1024
00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:58,175
was gonna phone back to
campus, tell the starting team,
1025
00:52:58,218 --> 00:53:00,133
"Don't come to the airport."
1026
00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:02,004
They had another plane waiting
for them
1027
00:53:02,048 --> 00:53:05,530
at another airport that they
were gonna take if they had to.
1028
00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:08,620
- [Jackie] And should six be
arrested,
1029
00:53:08,663 --> 00:53:11,144
six will end up in East Lansing,
Michigan.
1030
00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:14,147
- It was like "Mission
Impossible," man.
1031
00:53:15,888 --> 00:53:17,629
- We were kinda the guinea pigs,
okay?
1032
00:53:17,672 --> 00:53:21,328
I was literally scared to
death, but we were gonna go.
1033
00:53:23,112 --> 00:53:25,593
- The reserves made it
through to the airport.
1034
00:53:25,637 --> 00:53:28,335
A call was made, and they
said, "Coast is clear."
1035
00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:31,991
And the starters, Joe Dan and
Red Straud
1036
00:53:32,034 --> 00:53:33,732
and Doug Hutton, they went.
1037
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:37,910
And they all flew together.
1038
00:53:37,953 --> 00:53:39,781
[upbeat music]
1039
00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:42,610
- [Jackie] And as soon as
the plane left the ground,
1040
00:53:42,654 --> 00:53:44,482
you could hear the guys all
together
1041
00:53:44,525 --> 00:53:46,875
started clapping and cheering.
1042
00:53:46,919 --> 00:53:48,921
We're off, we're on our way.
1043
00:53:54,143 --> 00:53:56,233
- [Jerry] I didn't think
they were gonna come.
1044
00:53:56,276 --> 00:53:59,801
And when we got to Michigan,
they said
1045
00:53:59,845 --> 00:54:02,848
Mississippi State is gonna play
you.
1046
00:54:04,937 --> 00:54:06,678
- To know that cops are chasing
them
1047
00:54:06,721 --> 00:54:09,550
and that what they're doing
is gonna create a stir.
1048
00:54:09,594 --> 00:54:12,205
And then just even getting
psychologically ready
1049
00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:13,685
for an NCAA tournament game,
1050
00:54:13,728 --> 00:54:16,296
which they had never done
before.
1051
00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,255
I'm sure they were probably
tapped out.
1052
00:54:19,386 --> 00:54:22,694
- [Jackie] How many people are
gonna support us being there?
1053
00:54:22,737 --> 00:54:23,608
We don't know.
1054
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:27,046
- [Doug] Everything was very
quiet.
1055
00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,439
We're all sitting there, you
know,
1056
00:54:28,482 --> 00:54:30,005
about halfway wanting to cry.
1057
00:54:31,224 --> 00:54:34,314
[gentle triumphant music]
1058
00:54:34,358 --> 00:54:36,142
- And when we got on the floor
that night,
1059
00:54:36,185 --> 00:54:40,407
and all of a sudden, the
MSU fight song was played.
1060
00:54:40,451 --> 00:54:42,583
[spectators cheering]
1061
00:54:42,627 --> 00:54:45,804
[lively upbeat music]
1062
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:54,595
Here we are, a bunch of
white kids in opposition
1063
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,729
to a movement against black
athletes,
1064
00:54:57,772 --> 00:55:01,950
to play something as easy or
simple as a basketball game?
1065
00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:05,606
To walk into a gym of 15, 18,000
people.
1066
00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:09,175
Wow.
1067
00:55:12,352 --> 00:55:14,311
Could it really be happening?
That, um.
1068
00:55:16,530 --> 00:55:19,141
[solemn music]
1069
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,971
- [Robbie] They had no clue
1070
00:55:23,015 --> 00:55:24,625
that they would be that
welcomed.
1071
00:55:25,757 --> 00:55:28,020
- Doug] Joe Dan Gold was our
captain
1072
00:55:28,063 --> 00:55:31,066
and he went out to shake
hands before the tip-off.
1073
00:55:32,807 --> 00:55:34,331
- [Jerry] There was no cheering.
1074
00:55:34,374 --> 00:55:36,333
The place was quiet.
1075
00:55:36,376 --> 00:55:39,858
Everybody was watching
us, you could feel it.
1076
00:55:39,901 --> 00:55:43,992
I didn't hear anything
the referees were saying.
1077
00:55:44,036 --> 00:55:48,083
I was looking at Joe Dan
and he was looking at me.
1078
00:55:48,127 --> 00:55:52,566
We both went to shake
hands and the place lit up.
1079
00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:53,785
Pop, pop, pow!
1080
00:55:56,483 --> 00:55:58,355
- [Judy] The cameras just went
crazy.
1081
00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:00,922
- [Jackie] Almost turned into
daylight.
1082
00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:03,316
- [Rick C] I mean everyone
understood
1083
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,537
how important that moment was.
1084
00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:08,321
It was captured for the ages.
1085
00:56:09,496 --> 00:56:12,325
- [Jerry] I said, "This
is more than a game.
1086
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,935
This is history."
1087
00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:19,593
- For our two captains to shake
hands
1088
00:56:19,637 --> 00:56:23,684
and acknowledge the fact
that, "Hey, we're here."
1089
00:56:23,728 --> 00:56:26,339
[somber music]
1090
00:56:32,084 --> 00:56:34,216
- [Lucas] The night would
forever be known
1091
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:35,696
as the Game of Change.
1092
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:47,447
When the final buzzer sounded,
1093
00:56:47,491 --> 00:56:51,320
Loyola had earned the win,
sending them to the Elite Eight.
1094
00:56:51,364 --> 00:56:54,628
While Mississippi State faced
the reality of returning home,
1095
00:56:54,672 --> 00:56:57,457
and the consequences
that would be waiting.
1096
00:56:57,501 --> 00:56:59,328
- I don't know, we could have
played a whole lot of games
1097
00:56:59,372 --> 00:57:00,895
and probably never beaten them.
1098
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:05,073
Coach came in, and his first
thing he says
1099
00:57:05,117 --> 00:57:06,292
when he popped in that door,
1100
00:57:06,335 --> 00:57:08,686
is "Boys, you get your head up."
1101
00:57:08,729 --> 00:57:10,078
He said, "Y'all have done
something
1102
00:57:10,122 --> 00:57:12,429
that nobody in Mississippi's
ever done, you know.
1103
00:57:12,472 --> 00:57:14,300
Y'all have nothing to be ashamed
of."
1104
00:57:17,521 --> 00:57:18,739
- Well, obviously our flight
home
1105
00:57:18,783 --> 00:57:20,393
was a disappointing flight home.
1106
00:57:21,307 --> 00:57:23,875
Yet, it wasn't disappointing
1107
00:57:23,918 --> 00:57:26,704
because we had accomplished
what we set out to do.
1108
00:57:28,096 --> 00:57:30,316
- The Mississippi State team
didn't know
1109
00:57:30,359 --> 00:57:33,145
what they would find when they
got home.
1110
00:57:33,188 --> 00:57:34,538
That was the danger.
1111
00:57:34,581 --> 00:57:36,061
That was the element that
they were dealing with,
1112
00:57:36,104 --> 00:57:38,498
it had to be in the back of
their minds the whole time.
1113
00:57:38,542 --> 00:57:41,501
[soft solemn music]
1114
00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,417
They get back to Mississippi
1115
00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:48,943
and there's a crowd
treating them like heroes.
1116
00:57:48,987 --> 00:57:52,164
[spectators cheering]
1117
00:57:58,213 --> 00:58:00,172
You know, the best thing is to
win.
1118
00:58:00,215 --> 00:58:02,000
The second best thing is to
lose.
1119
00:58:02,043 --> 00:58:04,393
That means you got a chance to
compete.
1120
00:58:04,437 --> 00:58:07,919
Without the ability to
compete, you got nothing.
1121
00:58:09,268 --> 00:58:11,400
- Differences of opinion that we
have
1122
00:58:11,444 --> 00:58:13,664
and ill feelings that we have,
1123
00:58:13,707 --> 00:58:17,058
but basketball and sports
can do an awful lot
1124
00:58:17,102 --> 00:58:18,407
to bring people together.
1125
00:58:20,758 --> 00:58:23,151
- [Lucas] As the NCAA
tournament continued,
1126
00:58:23,195 --> 00:58:25,284
Loyola defeated Illinois and
Duke
1127
00:58:25,327 --> 00:58:27,373
to advance to the championship
game
1128
00:58:27,416 --> 00:58:30,158
for the first time in school
history.
1129
00:58:30,202 --> 00:58:32,857
The most anticipated
contest of the season,
1130
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,947
Loyola versus Cincinnati, was
set.
1131
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:39,777
- The night we beat Duke,
what I remember most vividly
1132
00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:42,910
is Vic Rouse jumping on the bed
1133
00:58:42,954 --> 00:58:44,912
at four o'clock in the morning
1134
00:58:44,956 --> 00:58:49,351
saying he's gonna be
looking at his NCAA watch.
1135
00:58:49,395 --> 00:58:52,137
[laughing] I remember that
vividly.
1136
00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:53,965
'Cause they didn't give
out rings at that time.
1137
00:58:54,008 --> 00:58:55,532
They gave out watches.
1138
00:58:55,575 --> 00:58:57,969
I don't think any of the guys
got to bed
1139
00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,100
til at least 4:00 in the
morning.
1140
00:58:59,144 --> 00:59:01,146
And that might have been,
1141
00:59:01,189 --> 00:59:03,888
the guys might have been
dragging a little bit.
1142
00:59:03,931 --> 00:59:05,759
- [Red] NCAA Championship ball
game.
1143
00:59:05,803 --> 00:59:07,805
It's a ding-dong-dilly of a
battle tonight
1144
00:59:07,848 --> 00:59:10,198
at Louisville as we
will have the Bearcats,
1145
00:59:10,242 --> 00:59:12,897
coached by Ed Jucker,
against the Ramblers,
1146
00:59:12,940 --> 00:59:17,118
coached by George Ireland
of Loyola of Chicago.
1147
00:59:17,162 --> 00:59:19,599
- [Lucas] For the first
time in NCAA history,
1148
00:59:19,643 --> 00:59:23,429
seven black starters across
both teams took the floor.
1149
00:59:23,472 --> 00:59:25,649
And in a nationally televised
game,
1150
00:59:25,692 --> 00:59:27,346
the entire country was watching.
1151
00:59:29,217 --> 00:59:32,873
On Chicago local radio,
Loyola's very own announcer,
1152
00:59:32,917 --> 00:59:35,006
Red Rush was calling the game,
1153
00:59:35,876 --> 00:59:38,575
a voice no one would forget
by the end of the night.
1154
00:59:38,618 --> 00:59:40,925
- [Red] We are hungry for a
championship,
1155
00:59:40,968 --> 00:59:43,623
so please bring one home to us,
won't you?
1156
00:59:43,667 --> 00:59:45,277
- It was bringing chills to me
1157
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,931
to be honest with you, watching
that.
1158
00:59:46,974 --> 00:59:49,063
- We had 150 young nuns there,
1159
00:59:49,107 --> 00:59:51,109
looking at this little
black-and-white TV
1160
00:59:51,152 --> 00:59:53,024
so we could watch that game.
1161
00:59:55,548 --> 01:00:00,553
- Probably the audience at
the time was pro-Cincinnati.
1162
01:00:01,902 --> 01:00:04,209
Nobody had won three titles in a
row.
1163
01:00:05,645 --> 01:00:07,212
- I guess the excitement starts
1164
01:00:07,255 --> 01:00:11,259
when you're running out
through the crowded area.
1165
01:00:12,173 --> 01:00:15,655
I could not see anybody that I
knew there,
1166
01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:17,352
but I knew they were there.
1167
01:00:17,396 --> 01:00:19,616
Okay, there was that many
people.
1168
01:00:19,659 --> 01:00:21,966
[spectators cheering]
1169
01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:23,228
It felt as though
1170
01:00:23,271 --> 01:00:24,969
I'd been looking forward
to this all my life.
1171
01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:28,929
I would say more excited,
1172
01:00:28,973 --> 01:00:32,150
somewhat nervous, but more
excited.
1173
01:00:34,718 --> 01:00:36,894
I just said, "We gotta
get to a good start."
1174
01:00:38,983 --> 01:00:40,854
- At tip-off, I had this little
habit
1175
01:00:40,898 --> 01:00:43,596
where I always reached
down and touched my sock.
1176
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,773
And that night, I didn't touch
my sock,
1177
01:00:46,817 --> 01:00:49,515
which said to me I must have
been nervous.
1178
01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:51,604
- [Red] The ball's in the air
1179
01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:53,954
and controlled by Cincinnati's
Tony Yates.
1180
01:00:53,998 --> 01:00:56,130
So the Bearcats have got
the ball on the move.
1181
01:00:56,174 --> 01:00:58,437
He brings the ball over
the 10-second timeline.
1182
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,004
The Bearcats control down here
to Bonham,
1183
01:01:00,047 --> 01:01:01,832
fires from the baseline,
jumps, shoots, off,
1184
01:01:01,875 --> 01:01:04,530
no good, and Wilson stuffs it
through.
1185
01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:08,316
George Wilson went high in the
sky and stuffed it through.
1186
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,623
- We were the best team, without
a doubt.
1187
01:01:10,667 --> 01:01:12,886
Deliberate game, set picks,
1188
01:01:12,930 --> 01:01:14,540
take our time with the ball.
1189
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,021
- [Lucas] Right at tip-off,
1190
01:01:17,064 --> 01:01:19,414
Cincinnati had momentum on their
side.
1191
01:01:19,458 --> 01:01:21,416
Both teams studied their
opponent,
1192
01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:24,985
their styles, tactics,
and their biggest threat.
1193
01:01:25,029 --> 01:01:26,160
- [Red] Harkness out to Ron
Miller,
1194
01:01:26,204 --> 01:01:27,727
they're going to try to set the
pattern,
1195
01:01:27,771 --> 01:01:29,947
they're not going in that
full-court-press incidentally.
1196
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:32,689
- Tom Thacker, the best
defensive player
1197
01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:34,952
in college basketball at the
time.
1198
01:01:34,995 --> 01:01:38,259
At the beginning of the game I
said, "I'ma get in his head."
1199
01:01:40,522 --> 01:01:41,567
- [Michael] He was going in
1200
01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:44,135
for what he thought was an easy
layup.
1201
01:01:44,178 --> 01:01:47,181
He thought he had Tom Thacker
beat.
1202
01:01:47,225 --> 01:01:48,835
- Instead of going left,
1203
01:01:48,879 --> 01:01:50,837
where I know they had scouted me
1204
01:01:50,881 --> 01:01:54,145
and I go left 90% of the time,
1205
01:01:54,188 --> 01:01:56,582
I said, "I'ma go right on him."
1206
01:01:56,625 --> 01:01:58,062
- [Red] They're going to
try to set the pattern.
1207
01:01:58,105 --> 01:01:59,585
There goes Harkness driving the
baseline,
1208
01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:00,804
and the ball knocked out of
bounds
1209
01:02:00,847 --> 01:02:03,720
by Tom Thacker who is on
Harkness.
1210
01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:05,330
- He slapped the ball away.
1211
01:02:05,373 --> 01:02:09,464
I could not believe what he had
just done.
1212
01:02:09,508 --> 01:02:13,338
Nobody would think of it
as being awesome except me.
1213
01:02:13,381 --> 01:02:15,732
He knocked me out of my game.
1214
01:02:15,775 --> 01:02:19,083
- [Michael] From that moment
on, he was afraid of Thacker.
1215
01:02:19,126 --> 01:02:20,824
Thacker was in his head.
1216
01:02:20,867 --> 01:02:22,739
- [Red] Being guarded by
Thacker, Harkness goes up
1217
01:02:22,782 --> 01:02:25,045
off the left side, jumps,
an 8-footer, off, no good,
1218
01:02:25,089 --> 01:02:27,787
and Wilson clears the backboard
backing up underneath.
1219
01:02:28,962 --> 01:02:32,444
- When I got around him,
there's George Wilson.
1220
01:02:32,487 --> 01:02:35,490
They had a double where
they had me boxed in.
1221
01:02:35,534 --> 01:02:36,317
- [Red] Down to Harkness.
1222
01:02:36,361 --> 01:02:37,405
Harkness has yet to score,
1223
01:02:37,449 --> 01:02:38,972
we're going to see what happens.
1224
01:02:39,016 --> 01:02:40,321
He backs up, he always shoots
when he does, let's wait.
1225
01:02:40,365 --> 01:02:42,323
He turns around, jumps,
shoots, off, no good,
1226
01:02:42,367 --> 01:02:44,630
and the ball knocked
into the hands of Wilson.
1227
01:02:44,673 --> 01:02:47,154
- They had all of the things to
stop me.
1228
01:02:47,198 --> 01:02:49,374
They just scouted us very, very
well.
1229
01:02:49,417 --> 01:02:51,158
- [Red] Off to Miller
to the right-hand side,
1230
01:02:51,202 --> 01:02:53,987
goes to the baseline, jumps,
an 8-footer, off, no good.
1231
01:02:54,031 --> 01:02:56,163
So Ron Miller has got a foul.
1232
01:02:56,207 --> 01:02:58,687
- We'd had slow starts before.
1233
01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:03,344
But this night, something is
wrong.
1234
01:03:03,388 --> 01:03:05,346
[dramatic music]
1235
01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:08,219
- [Lucas] With the threat of
Jerry Harkness neutralized,
1236
01:03:08,262 --> 01:03:09,655
Ed Jucker turned his attack
1237
01:03:09,698 --> 01:03:14,225
on what Loyola relied
on most, their speed.
1238
01:03:14,268 --> 01:03:16,009
- [Red] Passing over to Bonham
behind the free-throw line,
1239
01:03:16,053 --> 01:03:17,097
it is off the iron, no good
1240
01:03:17,141 --> 01:03:18,969
and Miller controls it off of
there.
1241
01:03:19,012 --> 01:03:20,318
They slow down that fast break.
1242
01:03:20,361 --> 01:03:22,624
9:56 left to go in the first
half.
1243
01:03:22,668 --> 01:03:25,584
- They took away our fast
breaks.
1244
01:03:25,627 --> 01:03:27,934
- We wanted to cut loose all the
time.
1245
01:03:27,978 --> 01:03:29,370
We wanted to get the ball and
go,
1246
01:03:29,414 --> 01:03:30,981
and get the ball and go.
1247
01:03:31,024 --> 01:03:34,854
They didn't take enough
shots for us to get going.
1248
01:03:34,898 --> 01:03:37,814
They were never in a hurry to
take a shot.
1249
01:03:37,857 --> 01:03:40,947
- [Red] Thacker way over, hands
it back to Larry Shingleton.
1250
01:03:40,991 --> 01:03:42,253
They have a seven point lead
1251
01:03:42,296 --> 01:03:43,689
and when Cincinnati's
got that kind of a lead,
1252
01:03:43,732 --> 01:03:44,821
it's pretty tough.
1253
01:03:44,864 --> 01:03:46,431
- So they didn't miss a lot of
shots.
1254
01:03:46,474 --> 01:03:50,000
So there was not an opportunity
for us to get rebounds.
1255
01:03:50,043 --> 01:03:53,612
And for some reason, we could
not ever adjust to that style.
1256
01:03:53,655 --> 01:03:57,137
I don't remember having a
fast-break in the first half.
1257
01:03:57,181 --> 01:03:59,052
- We just never could get
started.
1258
01:03:59,096 --> 01:04:00,401
And we weren't shooting well.
1259
01:04:00,445 --> 01:04:02,099
Shooting percentage was
terrible.
1260
01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:04,710
- [Red] The Ramblers with a
13-footer, up, off, no good.
1261
01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:06,407
Over to Miller, jumping from
behind the free-throw lane,
1262
01:04:06,451 --> 01:04:09,236
it is up, and short, no
good, and Thacker clears it.
1263
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,325
- How could we miss that many
shots?
1264
01:04:11,369 --> 01:04:13,850
I mean they were easy shots,
they were wide open shots,
1265
01:04:13,893 --> 01:04:15,199
and we were missing shots.
1266
01:04:15,242 --> 01:04:17,679
- I knew that we were much
better
1267
01:04:17,723 --> 01:04:19,159
than we were playing.
1268
01:04:19,203 --> 01:04:21,901
A lot of people were
probably watching at home.
1269
01:04:21,945 --> 01:04:24,034
And we come there and flop.
1270
01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:27,776
- Everyone on that team was
nervous.
1271
01:04:28,821 --> 01:04:33,130
We were out of sync,
largely because our leader
1272
01:04:33,173 --> 01:04:36,568
was not having a good half.
1273
01:04:36,611 --> 01:04:38,875
- [Michael] Jerry did not feel
confident.
1274
01:04:38,918 --> 01:04:41,399
If Jerry was not confident,
the rest of the team
1275
01:04:41,442 --> 01:04:44,054
had to wonder, "What's to become
of us?"
1276
01:04:44,097 --> 01:04:45,707
- [Red] Miller over to Harkness.
1277
01:04:45,751 --> 01:04:47,100
He goes down near the baseline.
1278
01:04:47,144 --> 01:04:48,841
Bonham's on him, dribbles
under, fakes, shoots,
1279
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,538
and he is knocked down.
1280
01:04:50,582 --> 01:04:51,844
But getting the ball.
1281
01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:55,152
Egan sets, he shoots, it
is rolling off, no good.
1282
01:04:55,195 --> 01:04:57,502
Over to Ron Miller, he
jumps, he shoots, a 6-footer,
1283
01:04:57,545 --> 01:04:59,721
rolls off, no good, and the
ball is knocked out of bounds,
1284
01:04:59,765 --> 01:05:01,680
last touched by Vic Rouse.
1285
01:05:01,723 --> 01:05:06,467
At halftime the score is 29 to
21.
1286
01:05:06,511 --> 01:05:08,513
- The assumption by everybody
is that this is a gimme.
1287
01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,428
Cincinnati's got it, it's in the
bag.
1288
01:05:12,821 --> 01:05:15,433
[gentle bright music]
1289
01:05:15,476 --> 01:05:17,696
- The first half of the
championship game
1290
01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:20,177
is kind of a blur.
1291
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:23,789
I remember Jerry had a very bad
game,
1292
01:05:25,225 --> 01:05:26,705
but so did everyone else.
1293
01:05:28,054 --> 01:05:29,926
We played the worst game of the
year.
1294
01:05:32,145 --> 01:05:34,887
Of the four years that
I was around Ireland,
1295
01:05:34,931 --> 01:05:36,367
I've often thought
1296
01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:40,762
that George Ireland's greatest
achievement as a coach
1297
01:05:40,806 --> 01:05:43,243
was what he said at halftime.
1298
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:49,510
He walks into the locker
room and said to us,
1299
01:05:49,554 --> 01:05:53,819
"You know, you just played
the worst half of basketball
1300
01:05:53,862 --> 01:05:55,908
I think we've played all year."
1301
01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:58,171
And he says, "I'm not worried
about it.
1302
01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:01,348
We're gonna go out there the
second half,
1303
01:06:01,392 --> 01:06:04,264
and you're gonna play better,
and we'll win the game."
1304
01:06:05,744 --> 01:06:08,399
There were other times
when we would be winning
1305
01:06:08,442 --> 01:06:10,705
by 10, 12, 15 points,
1306
01:06:10,749 --> 01:06:12,446
and he would come into the
locker room
1307
01:06:12,490 --> 01:06:14,666
and he would start throwing
things around,
1308
01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,538
telling us how lousy we were
playing.
1309
01:06:17,582 --> 01:06:20,324
But at this moment, that night,
1310
01:06:20,367 --> 01:06:23,718
he was the complete
opposite of all of those.
1311
01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,374
He said, "We're better than
that.
1312
01:06:27,418 --> 01:06:29,333
You're better than that."
1313
01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,422
He said, "We'll get 'em the
second half."
1314
01:06:33,728 --> 01:06:36,557
I've often felt that was his
finest hour.
1315
01:06:36,601 --> 01:06:40,648
[soft suspenseful music]
1316
01:06:40,692 --> 01:06:43,869
[spectators cheering]
1317
01:06:46,741 --> 01:06:48,352
- [Red] The ball is up and
controlled
1318
01:06:48,395 --> 01:06:50,832
by Jerry Harkness over near the
sideline.
1319
01:06:50,876 --> 01:06:52,573
Back to Miller the ball goes.
1320
01:06:52,617 --> 01:06:54,271
Back down to Harkness on the
right side,
1321
01:06:54,314 --> 01:06:56,273
going inside the
free-throw lane, shoots up,
1322
01:06:56,316 --> 01:06:57,839
and it goes off to Rouse,
1323
01:06:57,883 --> 01:07:00,625
he scores as he controls the
board.
1324
01:07:00,668 --> 01:07:04,933
- I never heard anyone say
they had lost their hope.
1325
01:07:04,977 --> 01:07:07,066
But if you're watching that
game,
1326
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:09,634
you had to think, "Things
are not going our way
1327
01:07:09,677 --> 01:07:12,506
and I don't see how they're
gonna change."
1328
01:07:12,550 --> 01:07:14,508
- [Lucas] Bolstered by
their coach's confidence,
1329
01:07:14,552 --> 01:07:17,033
Loyola came out of the
half ready to fight,
1330
01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:20,210
but Cincinnati looked just
as strong as they started.
1331
01:07:20,253 --> 01:07:21,994
With Jerry still held at bay,
1332
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:23,952
the Bearcats kept the pace slow,
1333
01:07:23,996 --> 01:07:25,606
making it even harder to catch
up.
1334
01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:27,173
- [Red] Yates has got it over
the far side
1335
01:07:27,217 --> 01:07:28,174
to Larry Shingleton.
1336
01:07:28,218 --> 01:07:29,567
Larry down the corner to Bonham,
1337
01:07:29,610 --> 01:07:31,743
he jumps, an 18-footer is up and
good.
1338
01:07:31,786 --> 01:07:35,399
45 to 30, Cincinnati leading by
15 points,
1339
01:07:35,442 --> 01:07:37,879
you wouldn't believe it
unless you were here.
1340
01:07:37,923 --> 01:07:39,316
- [Jack] I'm thinking to myself,
1341
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:40,926
"How do we make this comeback?
1342
01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:42,536
How do we do it?"
1343
01:07:42,580 --> 01:07:44,973
- Cincinnati was about
the best defensive team
1344
01:07:45,017 --> 01:07:46,497
in the United States,
1345
01:07:46,540 --> 01:07:48,716
so how do you overcome that
deficit?
1346
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,893
- [Michael] It's a long,
hard hill to climb.
1347
01:07:51,937 --> 01:07:54,287
But maybe there's some life in
them yet.
1348
01:07:54,331 --> 01:07:56,681
- [Red] Rouse clears the
backboard for Loyola.
1349
01:07:58,030 --> 01:07:59,379
- [Rich] Take the deep breath
1350
01:07:59,423 --> 01:08:02,600
and you wait for your time to
hit.
1351
01:08:02,643 --> 01:08:04,993
- [Red] 47-34, 13 point lead.
1352
01:08:05,037 --> 01:08:07,170
Here's Ron Miller going
down to the baseline.
1353
01:08:07,213 --> 01:08:09,389
Jumps, shoots, scores.
1354
01:08:09,433 --> 01:08:10,564
Going in the lane, and back, and
pass,
1355
01:08:10,608 --> 01:08:12,218
it goes to Harkness, the
baseline,
1356
01:08:12,262 --> 01:08:13,393
jumps, off, no good,
1357
01:08:13,437 --> 01:08:15,700
he can't get it, Rouse gets the
rebound.
1358
01:08:15,743 --> 01:08:18,746
- It was about five
minutes to go in the game.
1359
01:08:18,790 --> 01:08:20,357
I hadn't scored a basket.
1360
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,575
- [Red] Shoots, up, off, no
good.
1361
01:08:21,619 --> 01:08:22,968
And Leslie Hunter clears it.
1362
01:08:23,011 --> 01:08:25,536
There they go, Harkness,
and the ball is stolen,
1363
01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:29,017
as Harkness passes, it's
stolen by Larry Shingleton.
1364
01:08:29,061 --> 01:08:30,802
Beautiful interception by Larry.
1365
01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,849
- [Lucas] Loyola was
battling every possession.
1366
01:08:34,893 --> 01:08:37,287
But still down seven, every miss
1367
01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:39,245
made it painfully clear,
1368
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:44,207
if Jerry Harkness couldn't
score, Loyola was finished.
1369
01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:50,126
- Jerry had a big dream, had big
ideas
1370
01:08:50,169 --> 01:08:53,607
about his friends at
home watching him on TV.
1371
01:08:53,651 --> 01:08:56,741
How this was gonna be triumph of
the poor,
1372
01:08:56,784 --> 01:08:59,744
be triumphant back in New York.
1373
01:08:59,787 --> 01:09:02,573
And he saw all that slipping
away.
1374
01:09:02,616 --> 01:09:05,619
- I would not have been
able to face myself,
1375
01:09:05,663 --> 01:09:09,319
in life, because I played so
bad.
1376
01:09:10,581 --> 01:09:14,324
I would have felt bad
for the rest of my life.
1377
01:09:17,065 --> 01:09:20,721
But God has always put me in a
situation,
1378
01:09:22,114 --> 01:09:25,770
going on welfare, nothing to
eat.
1379
01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:30,035
And I think of my mom getting us
through,
1380
01:09:31,341 --> 01:09:35,171
coming out of the
hospital, and telling us,
1381
01:09:36,084 --> 01:09:37,782
"We're going to make it."
1382
01:09:39,044 --> 01:09:43,004
I realized that all of that
drive and determination
1383
01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:46,269
came from my mom.
1384
01:09:48,096 --> 01:09:50,795
Ireland put in a different play
1385
01:09:50,838 --> 01:09:53,667
that Cincinnati had not seen.
1386
01:09:53,711 --> 01:09:56,540
I felt finally, maybe this is it
for me.
1387
01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:03,373
- [Red] Egan, Egan to Harkness,
turn around, jumper's good.
1388
01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:05,070
Jerry made his first basket.
1389
01:10:05,113 --> 01:10:10,206
He made it, he might do
it, 48 to 43, 48 to 43.
1390
01:10:10,249 --> 01:10:11,424
- [Jack] We can win this game.
1391
01:10:11,468 --> 01:10:13,948
At that point, we can win.
1392
01:10:13,992 --> 01:10:15,776
- [Red] Here's Thacker with that
ball.
1393
01:10:15,820 --> 01:10:17,648
Passing down, intercepted by
Harkness.
1394
01:10:17,691 --> 01:10:20,520
Here goes Jerry, lays
it up, and he scores.
1395
01:10:20,564 --> 01:10:24,655
Harkness scores, beautiful,
beautiful, beautiful.
1396
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,007
48-45, 4:16 left to go.
1397
01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:31,314
Oh, is this a ball game now.
1398
01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:33,707
Out to Harkness on the left
side, he's driving down,
1399
01:10:33,751 --> 01:10:38,756
he's under, lays it up, and
scores, he scores, he scores.
1400
01:10:39,191 --> 01:10:41,846
- Jerry was the primary reason
1401
01:10:41,889 --> 01:10:46,242
that we were able to come
back and get into the game.
1402
01:10:46,285 --> 01:10:51,203
Once he heated up, the rest
of the team followed suit.
1403
01:10:52,987 --> 01:10:56,991
- [Ron] We just started
playing harder, much harder.
1404
01:10:57,035 --> 01:10:58,384
- [Red] Look at Hunter get that
ball.
1405
01:10:58,428 --> 01:10:59,907
Miller on the right side,
1406
01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:01,735
a bounce pass into Hunter,
turn around, layup, and oh!
1407
01:11:01,779 --> 01:11:04,390
Goal tending, goal tending,
they finally called it.
1408
01:11:04,434 --> 01:11:06,392
It's 51 to 50.
1409
01:11:06,436 --> 01:11:09,090
- The crowd started to come
around,
1410
01:11:09,134 --> 01:11:11,005
'cause we started to close the
gap.
1411
01:11:11,049 --> 01:11:13,138
- [Red] Here comes Harkness, he
lays it up
1412
01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:17,490
and it is tipped in by Hunter,
19 seconds, 15 seconds, 16.
1413
01:11:18,622 --> 01:11:20,711
Shingleton's got it, and a foul.
1414
01:11:20,754 --> 01:11:22,756
Harkness fouled him
purposefully, he had to do it.
1415
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:25,019
- [Announcer] 12 seconds to play
1416
01:11:25,063 --> 01:11:27,500
and it's bedlam here in
Louisville, Kentucky.
1417
01:11:28,806 --> 01:11:32,766
53 to 52, Cincinnati by one
single point.
1418
01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:35,378
And going to the line
will be Larry Shingleton.
1419
01:11:35,421 --> 01:11:37,554
- Larry Shingleton was one of
1420
01:11:37,597 --> 01:11:41,775
the best free-throw
shooters in the nation.
1421
01:11:41,819 --> 01:11:46,780
So, you know, when he stepped
to the line, my heart sank.
1422
01:11:47,172 --> 01:11:48,826
- [Announcer] With 12 seconds to
go,
1423
01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:50,393
Shingleton will go to the line.
1424
01:11:50,436 --> 01:11:53,483
If he should miss, they
would have time of course
1425
01:11:53,526 --> 01:11:56,399
to go down the court and
perhaps take that one shot.
1426
01:11:56,442 --> 01:11:58,618
And Tom, anything can
happen at this point.
1427
01:12:00,011 --> 01:12:02,448
- I am out there praying.
1428
01:12:02,492 --> 01:12:05,321
'Cause if he hits both, over.
1429
01:12:05,364 --> 01:12:07,714
No doubt about it, the game is
over.
1430
01:12:07,758 --> 01:12:11,327
[spectators whistling]
1431
01:12:11,370 --> 01:12:12,676
[spectators cheering]
1432
01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:16,114
- [Announcer] Well, there's
one of them, 54 to 52.
1433
01:12:16,157 --> 01:12:21,162
- I said, "Dear Lord, please,
please just give us a chance."
1434
01:12:22,033 --> 01:12:23,208
- [Announcer] Larry Shingleton
1435
01:12:23,251 --> 01:12:25,428
with only his second point of
the night.
1436
01:12:25,471 --> 01:12:28,474
And now, perhaps he can
ice the ball game for them.
1437
01:12:30,171 --> 01:12:33,566
[soft suspenseful music]
1438
01:12:35,307 --> 01:12:39,224
It's short, and it comes off to
Loyola.
1439
01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:41,835
- Les gets the rebound, perfect
position.
1440
01:12:42,793 --> 01:12:44,229
And there's a guy from
Cincinnati
1441
01:12:44,272 --> 01:12:48,189
who swipes at the ball as
Les passes the ball to me.
1442
01:12:48,233 --> 01:12:51,105
And as I catch the
ball, I take one dribble
1443
01:12:51,149 --> 01:12:54,587
and I see Jerry streaking
toward the basket.
1444
01:12:54,631 --> 01:12:57,851
I saw him break, I knew
he could get his shot,
1445
01:12:57,895 --> 01:12:59,592
because that's his spot.
1446
01:12:59,636 --> 01:13:01,768
- Jerry did what he does best.
1447
01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:05,424
He cocked that left hand behind
his head.
1448
01:13:05,468 --> 01:13:06,860
- I didn't feel anything.
1449
01:13:08,122 --> 01:13:10,864
I didn't feel the ball leave my
hand.
1450
01:13:10,908 --> 01:13:13,432
If I would have had an air ball,
1451
01:13:13,476 --> 01:13:15,086
I wouldn't have been surprised.
1452
01:13:16,087 --> 01:13:17,610
I just let it go.
1453
01:13:17,654 --> 01:13:19,612
- [Red] No good, and
Leslie Hunter has got it.
1454
01:13:19,656 --> 01:13:21,440
To Ron Miller, they've got a
fast break.
1455
01:13:21,484 --> 01:13:24,051
Down to Harkness, he jumps,
he shoots, he scores.
1456
01:13:25,836 --> 01:13:28,795
He scores, he scores, he scores!
1457
01:13:28,839 --> 01:13:31,450
- Perfect fast break within
seconds.
1458
01:13:31,494 --> 01:13:33,626
And that, to me, was who Loyola
was.
1459
01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:36,455
That's how we played, just like
that.
1460
01:13:36,499 --> 01:13:37,674
- [Announcer] One second to go,
1461
01:13:37,717 --> 01:13:39,240
and we're going into overtime.
1462
01:13:40,807 --> 01:13:43,810
And the score is all tied, 54 to
54.
1463
01:13:46,291 --> 01:13:47,945
[timer beeping]
1464
01:13:47,988 --> 01:13:49,599
The clock is running with nine
seconds,
1465
01:13:49,642 --> 01:13:51,209
Harkness takes it, he makes it.
1466
01:13:51,252 --> 01:13:53,254
It's all tied up.
1467
01:13:53,298 --> 01:13:56,475
[film reel whirring]
1468
01:13:56,519 --> 01:13:57,824
- [John] There was some
controversy
1469
01:13:57,868 --> 01:14:01,088
that Ronnie Miller might have
gotten away
1470
01:14:01,132 --> 01:14:02,655
with a traveling call.
1471
01:14:03,743 --> 01:14:06,659
- That's true, I gotta say it.
1472
01:14:08,922 --> 01:14:12,752
- There's the Ronnie,
he did an extra step.
1473
01:14:12,796 --> 01:14:15,842
- They know what they did,
they know what happened.
1474
01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:19,846
- It was so close that
nobody in their mind
1475
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:22,719
as a referee is gonna call that.
1476
01:14:22,762 --> 01:14:25,243
- There was no question
in my mind, he walked.
1477
01:14:25,286 --> 01:14:27,419
- Did he get away with
something?
1478
01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:30,378
Yeah, they didn't blow a
whistle.
1479
01:14:32,206 --> 01:14:34,644
- I didn't travel because
the ref didn't call it.
1480
01:14:35,906 --> 01:14:39,170
- And the basket's made.
We're into overtime.
1481
01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:43,261
[spectators cheering]
[upbeat music]
1482
01:14:43,304 --> 01:14:45,350
- [Announcer] It is
absolutely a madhouse here.
1483
01:14:45,393 --> 01:14:47,831
And it's all tied, 54-54.
1484
01:14:47,874 --> 01:14:50,007
Loyola getting 33 points
in the second half,
1485
01:14:50,050 --> 01:14:51,095
Cincinnati getting 25.
1486
01:14:51,138 --> 01:14:53,793
And Jerry Harkness, who had had
1487
01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:57,231
perhaps his most miserable
night in his college career,
1488
01:14:57,275 --> 01:14:58,537
came back to become the hero
1489
01:14:58,581 --> 01:15:00,844
to tie it up with three seconds
to go.
1490
01:15:00,887 --> 01:15:03,324
- [Red] But when David
comes up against Goliath,
1491
01:15:03,368 --> 01:15:04,717
what can you do?
1492
01:15:04,761 --> 01:15:05,849
There it goes down to
Harkness, he's underneath,
1493
01:15:05,892 --> 01:15:07,677
he lays it up, he scores, he
scores.
1494
01:15:08,852 --> 01:15:10,767
56 to 54, it's a dilly!
1495
01:15:12,377 --> 01:15:13,944
As the Ramblers are out in front
1496
01:15:13,987 --> 01:15:17,034
for the first time in this ball
game.
1497
01:15:17,077 --> 01:15:18,601
- [Ron] What I remember most
about the last five minutes
1498
01:15:18,644 --> 01:15:20,211
was that desperation.
1499
01:15:20,254 --> 01:15:22,256
Keep clawing until the bitter
end
1500
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:23,954
and something good will happen.
1501
01:15:25,303 --> 01:15:26,347
- [Announcer] Thacker
trying to get one inside,
1502
01:15:26,391 --> 01:15:30,221
he goes to Wilson, and Wilson
scores.
1503
01:15:30,264 --> 01:15:33,441
- Imagine playing an entire game
1504
01:15:33,485 --> 01:15:37,228
without any break, and an
overtime.
1505
01:15:37,271 --> 01:15:39,491
Those guys had no time to rest.
1506
01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:43,626
They were constantly going. All
five.
1507
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:45,149
- [Announcer] They have gone all
the way
1508
01:15:45,192 --> 01:15:46,977
without a substitute.
1509
01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:50,720
And I'm wondering, Tom Hamlin,
if this isn't beginning
1510
01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:52,765
to wear on Loyola a little bit.
1511
01:15:52,809 --> 01:15:55,725
- As you get tired, you lose
your legs,
1512
01:15:55,768 --> 01:15:59,250
you lose your shot, a
lot of things go south.
1513
01:15:59,293 --> 01:16:00,425
- [Announcer] Les Hunter takes
his shot,
1514
01:16:00,468 --> 01:16:01,687
it rolls around and goes off.
1515
01:16:01,731 --> 01:16:04,168
And George Wilson grabs
it for the Bearcats.
1516
01:16:06,649 --> 01:16:08,389
- At one time, one of the
guys came out and says,
1517
01:16:08,433 --> 01:16:10,827
"Chuck, I'm gassed."
1518
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:14,134
Well, coach said go out
there, keep playing.
1519
01:16:14,178 --> 01:16:16,267
- Somebody maybe needs a sub,
1520
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:18,965
but you don't wanna
tinker with that moment.
1521
01:16:19,009 --> 01:16:21,315
No substitutions, that's
what it's gonna be.
1522
01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:23,361
- [Red] The lead pass
intercepted by Ron Miller.
1523
01:16:23,404 --> 01:16:24,492
Ron Miller intercepted the pass
1524
01:16:24,536 --> 01:16:26,190
and now the Ramblers have got
it.
1525
01:16:26,233 --> 01:16:28,148
Action? You better believe it.
1526
01:16:28,192 --> 01:16:30,324
Miller shoots a 20-footer, good.
1527
01:16:30,368 --> 01:16:32,022
Good by Ron Miller.
1528
01:16:32,065 --> 01:16:33,763
- [Lucas] The final minutes of
overtime
1529
01:16:33,806 --> 01:16:35,634
felt like a tug-of-war.
1530
01:16:35,678 --> 01:16:37,636
Two teams desperate to win,
1531
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,378
both on the verge of collapse.
1532
01:16:40,421 --> 01:16:42,336
They'd do anything to score.
1533
01:16:42,380 --> 01:16:45,122
Even if it meant taking a
play from the other side.
1534
01:16:45,165 --> 01:16:47,559
- [Announcer] To Cincinnati,
a long pass to Shingleton,
1535
01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:49,517
he's in the clear.
1536
01:16:49,561 --> 01:16:51,563
He ties it up, 58 to 58.
1537
01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:55,219
[lively upbeat music]
1538
01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:56,568
A minute and a half to go.
1539
01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:01,965
Egan almost loses it.
1540
01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,401
They'll have to jump for it.
1541
01:17:04,358 --> 01:17:07,318
Egan and Shingleton, the two
smallest men on the court,
1542
01:17:07,361 --> 01:17:08,885
will jump for it.
1543
01:17:08,928 --> 01:17:12,018
- Jack has no quit in him.
1544
01:17:12,062 --> 01:17:15,369
The fact that Shingleton
was a little taller
1545
01:17:15,413 --> 01:17:17,197
didn't make a difference.
1546
01:17:17,241 --> 01:17:19,983
- [Announcer] Shingleton
is 5-10 and Egan is 5-9,
1547
01:17:20,026 --> 01:17:23,029
so Cincinnati with a
slight height advantage.
1548
01:17:24,204 --> 01:17:26,032
Because believe me, this
is a very important jump.
1549
01:17:26,076 --> 01:17:27,904
- [Ron] Jack would fight
anybody.
1550
01:17:27,947 --> 01:17:31,298
I mean, he didn't care who you
were.
1551
01:17:31,342 --> 01:17:33,474
If you had the ball,
he was gonna fight you
1552
01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:35,085
to take the ball.
1553
01:17:35,128 --> 01:17:39,089
- I don't care if the guy was
6-8, that's the way Jack is.
1554
01:17:39,132 --> 01:17:41,831
- [Red] Ball is up and
tipped back to Ron Miller.
1555
01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:44,572
He's got it, over to Jerry
Harkness.
1556
01:17:44,616 --> 01:17:47,532
- I think it was a misfiring
on Shingleton's part
1557
01:17:47,575 --> 01:17:50,883
because he was up too
soon before the ball was,
1558
01:17:50,927 --> 01:17:52,232
could be reached.
1559
01:17:52,276 --> 01:17:55,627
And Jack timed it perfectly,
luck of the Irish.
1560
01:17:56,497 --> 01:17:58,238
- [Red] Back to Egan, 1:15.
1561
01:17:58,282 --> 01:18:00,501
What would you do? 58-58.
1562
01:18:00,545 --> 01:18:02,678
Would you go for the one?
1563
01:18:02,721 --> 01:18:06,464
- I think everyone knew that the
idea was
1564
01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:10,424
to get the ball to Jerry
Harkness for the last shot.
1565
01:18:11,469 --> 01:18:13,906
- So we're gonna try to
get the ball to Jerry.
1566
01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:15,516
And he should be taking his shot
1567
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,693
with three, four seconds left,
1568
01:18:17,736 --> 01:18:20,826
so there's a chance for
a tip in, a rebound,
1569
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:22,523
but not an opportunity for them
1570
01:18:22,567 --> 01:18:25,309
to get a rebound and go
all the way down the court.
1571
01:18:25,352 --> 01:18:26,963
How do we do it?
1572
01:18:27,006 --> 01:18:28,268
- [Red] They're gonna go for
one,
1573
01:18:28,312 --> 01:18:29,966
I don't think there's
any question about it.
1574
01:18:30,009 --> 01:18:32,316
50 seconds, 49, 48.
1575
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:34,318
Harkness backing in, he may go,
1576
01:18:34,361 --> 01:18:35,841
now he goes back out to Egan.
1577
01:18:35,885 --> 01:18:39,105
Egan has got the ball, looking
around, over to Harkness,
1578
01:18:39,149 --> 01:18:41,804
back to Egan, 38 seconds left to
go.
1579
01:18:41,847 --> 01:18:44,589
To Rouse, back to Miller,
they're
gonna go for the one shot.
1580
01:18:44,632 --> 01:18:47,418
58-58. And this is a twist.
1581
01:18:47,461 --> 01:18:49,986
Cincinnati, the team that
always holds the ball,
1582
01:18:50,029 --> 01:18:52,075
they're seeing what it feels
like now.
1583
01:18:53,337 --> 01:18:57,080
- The team that normally held
the ball
1584
01:18:57,123 --> 01:18:59,909
did not know what to do
1585
01:18:59,952 --> 01:19:02,781
when someone held the ball
against them.
1586
01:19:02,825 --> 01:19:04,696
- [Red] Egan over To Harkness.
1587
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:06,219
Harkness going inside the lane,
1588
01:19:06,263 --> 01:19:08,352
now he goes back out to Miller.
1589
01:19:08,395 --> 01:19:10,267
15 seconds, out to Egan.
1590
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:11,485
I guarantee you one thing,
1591
01:19:11,529 --> 01:19:13,400
they'll give it Harkness when
it's time.
1592
01:19:13,444 --> 01:19:16,664
- Everybody pretty much
thought it would come to me.
1593
01:19:16,708 --> 01:19:18,579
- [Red] Miller's got it, out to
Rouse.
1594
01:19:18,623 --> 01:19:21,191
Nine, eight, Harkness
has got it, here he goes.
1595
01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:22,888
- And I got the ball.
1596
01:19:22,932 --> 01:19:26,631
And he knew I was going
left, and I knew it.
1597
01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:29,068
But I didn't feel it.
1598
01:19:29,939 --> 01:19:34,204
In the corner of my
eye, I saw Hunter open.
1599
01:19:34,247 --> 01:19:36,293
And he can hit that shot.
1600
01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:37,685
- [Jack] Threw it to Les.
1601
01:19:37,729 --> 01:19:40,166
Now we're talking probably
three or four seconds.
1602
01:19:40,210 --> 01:19:41,385
- I got nervous.
1603
01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:44,127
Not because Les isn't a great
shot,
1604
01:19:44,170 --> 01:19:49,306
but I heard the ball scratch
as he took that shot.
1605
01:19:49,349 --> 01:19:51,961
He scratched it with his
fingernails.
1606
01:19:52,004 --> 01:19:53,876
- It was a good shot to take.
1607
01:19:53,919 --> 01:19:55,747
- It went off the side of the
rim
1608
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:59,316
and then one of the second best,
1609
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:01,840
third best moment of
my life was seeing Vic
1610
01:20:01,884 --> 01:20:04,016
push that ball back through the
basket.
1611
01:20:04,060 --> 01:20:05,278
- [Red] Off the rim, Rouse gets
it,
1612
01:20:05,322 --> 01:20:08,325
scores, it's over, it's over!
1613
01:20:08,368 --> 01:20:11,850
We won, we won, we won the
ballgame!
1614
01:20:11,894 --> 01:20:13,809
We won the ballgame!
1615
01:20:13,852 --> 01:20:16,115
Oh, we won, Loyola won the
ballgame!
1616
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:20,032
Oh, we won it, we won,
1617
01:20:20,076 --> 01:20:21,947
60 to 58, 60 to 58.
1618
01:20:25,603 --> 01:20:28,998
Rouse gets it, scores,
it's over, it's over!
1619
01:20:29,041 --> 01:20:32,305
We won, we won, we won,
we won the ballgame!
1620
01:20:32,349 --> 01:20:33,785
- We won, we won.
1621
01:20:36,179 --> 01:20:39,051
- And all of a sudden,
we heard these voices,
1622
01:20:39,095 --> 01:20:41,532
marched out on Sheridan Road
yelling,
1623
01:20:41,575 --> 01:20:43,664
"We won, we won, we won!"
1624
01:20:43,708 --> 01:20:45,710
I think they went all the way to
Evanston,
1625
01:20:45,753 --> 01:20:49,714
like at midnight, oh,
so joyous and so joyful.
1626
01:20:49,757 --> 01:20:51,847
[bright music]
1627
01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:53,674
- You just have no idea the
pride
1628
01:20:53,718 --> 01:20:55,328
that I have for those guys.
1629
01:20:57,026 --> 01:21:00,029
- It was unbelievable.
1630
01:21:00,072 --> 01:21:03,597
It was good to see the starting
five
1631
01:21:03,641 --> 01:21:07,775
get the reward reward
that they had earned.
1632
01:21:09,603 --> 01:21:10,866
- [Interviewer] George, how does
it feel
1633
01:21:10,909 --> 01:21:13,216
to be a national champion of the
NCAA?
1634
01:21:13,259 --> 01:21:14,565
- It's the first time we brought
a team
1635
01:21:14,608 --> 01:21:16,132
to the tournament and we just
said,
1636
01:21:16,175 --> 01:21:18,047
"Look, we're having a poor first
half.
1637
01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:20,788
I know you can beat 'em, let's
go out and give it to 'em."
1638
01:21:20,832 --> 01:21:23,487
- [Announcer] And that is
the championship for 1963
1639
01:21:23,530 --> 01:21:26,533
and one of the most unbelievable
comebacks of all time.
1640
01:21:26,577 --> 01:21:30,798
- America was sitting witness
to this evolution of the game
1641
01:21:30,842 --> 01:21:34,715
by seven out of 10 African
Americans starting in that game.
1642
01:21:36,282 --> 01:21:38,589
- [Lucas] Loyola did
what they set out to do.
1643
01:21:38,632 --> 01:21:40,896
But their win represented so
much more.
1644
01:21:42,506 --> 01:21:43,594
The end of the tournament
1645
01:21:43,637 --> 01:21:45,813
marked the beginning of their
legacy,
1646
01:21:45,857 --> 01:21:47,554
one that shaped the sport
1647
01:21:47,598 --> 01:21:51,428
and their lives for years to
come.
1648
01:21:52,995 --> 01:21:55,606
[bright music]
1649
01:21:57,521 --> 01:22:00,698
[spectators cheering]
1650
01:22:01,612 --> 01:22:04,397
♪ We're Loyola, we're number one
♪
1651
01:22:04,441 --> 01:22:08,488
♪ We're Loyola, we're number one
♪
1652
01:22:10,142 --> 01:22:11,839
The Ramblers returned home to
Chicago
1653
01:22:11,883 --> 01:22:14,625
as champions that March of 1963,
1654
01:22:14,668 --> 01:22:16,496
the first school in the state of
Illinois
1655
01:22:16,540 --> 01:22:19,151
to ever win a division one
national title.
1656
01:22:19,195 --> 01:22:21,066
- How do you feel after
your four years at Loyola?
1657
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:22,676
- Well, I feel tremendous.
1658
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,808
This is a great thing.
1659
01:22:23,851 --> 01:22:26,637
We won the championship in
basketball
1660
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,987
and that's exactly what I
wanted.
1661
01:22:29,031 --> 01:22:32,208
[gentle bright music]
1662
01:22:33,818 --> 01:22:36,342
- [Lucas] The win was
celebrated not just by Loyola,
1663
01:22:36,386 --> 01:22:39,041
but the entire city of Chicago.
1664
01:22:39,084 --> 01:22:42,000
So Ireland proudly paraded
their trophy around town,
1665
01:22:42,044 --> 01:22:44,220
including a barber shop across
from campus
1666
01:22:44,263 --> 01:22:47,049
where four of the Iron Five
weren't even allowed inside.
1667
01:22:50,574 --> 01:22:53,185
As for Jerry Harkness, after
graduating,
1668
01:22:53,229 --> 01:22:55,709
he had a short-lived pro career
in the ABA
1669
01:22:55,753 --> 01:22:57,276
before returning to Chicago
1670
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,670
and finding work as a
salesman on the Northside,
1671
01:22:59,713 --> 01:23:00,932
close to campus.
1672
01:23:02,542 --> 01:23:06,024
Now, he was just a young black
man trying to build a life.
1673
01:23:06,068 --> 01:23:09,985
[gentle bright music continues]
1674
01:23:10,028 --> 01:23:13,423
- I could see all of
those people out there
1675
01:23:13,466 --> 01:23:16,817
cheering as we won the national
title.
1676
01:23:16,861 --> 01:23:20,038
Then when it got time to just
move,
1677
01:23:20,082 --> 01:23:23,476
I could not get a place to stay.
1678
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,305
And they came up with all kind
of excuses.
1679
01:23:27,306 --> 01:23:28,699
I was being discriminated
against,
1680
01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:30,657
there was no doubt about it.
1681
01:23:32,398 --> 01:23:35,271
- [Lucas] The story of the
'63 Ramblers made me wonder,
1682
01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:38,622
"What was really different now?
1683
01:23:38,665 --> 01:23:41,799
Did their accomplishments
change anything?"
1684
01:23:41,842 --> 01:23:44,497
The answer is complicated,
1685
01:23:44,541 --> 01:23:47,718
but their lasting effect
on basketball is clear.
1686
01:23:48,936 --> 01:23:53,289
- [Rich] The '63 team changed
the game,
1687
01:23:53,332 --> 01:23:56,422
made it faster, more
interesting,
1688
01:23:56,466 --> 01:24:01,471
a lot more fun to watch,
almost like a ballet.
1689
01:24:02,602 --> 01:24:06,606
[gentle bright music continues]
1690
01:24:08,304 --> 01:24:10,915
- It was the beginning
of modern basketball.
1691
01:24:11,785 --> 01:24:14,875
- That changed the
landscape of college sports.
1692
01:24:14,919 --> 01:24:17,052
We were able to work together
1693
01:24:17,095 --> 01:24:20,055
with all this diversity
and come out a winner.
1694
01:24:20,098 --> 01:24:22,231
And then common sense would tell
us,
1695
01:24:22,274 --> 01:24:24,494
"Well, can't we do that
in society as well?"
1696
01:24:24,537 --> 01:24:27,584
[somber music]
1697
01:24:27,627 --> 01:24:32,589
[people yelling]
[dogs barking]
1698
01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:39,509
- [Jerry] One part of
America was making changes.
1699
01:24:39,552 --> 01:24:40,945
- [Reporter] Texas Western takes
1700
01:24:40,988 --> 01:24:43,643
the first major sports title
the school has ever won.
1701
01:24:43,687 --> 01:24:45,732
- And the other part was not.
1702
01:24:48,431 --> 01:24:53,175
I got involved in the Civil
Rights Movement after school.
1703
01:24:53,218 --> 01:24:56,308
We had an obligation to do
something,
1704
01:24:56,352 --> 01:25:00,225
say something about how the
situation was.
1705
01:25:03,315 --> 01:25:05,752
- [Lucas] Sports has a way
of tearing down barriers
1706
01:25:05,796 --> 01:25:07,580
faster than the rest of society.
1707
01:25:08,799 --> 01:25:12,455
And when athletes use their
platform to demand justice,
1708
01:25:12,498 --> 01:25:14,152
they can often turn their
victories
1709
01:25:14,196 --> 01:25:15,545
into something much bigger.
1710
01:25:17,851 --> 01:25:19,244
But they can't do it alone.
1711
01:25:21,507 --> 01:25:25,424
[gentle bright music]
1712
01:25:25,468 --> 01:25:28,079
[somber music]
1713
01:25:29,385 --> 01:25:31,082
- [Reporter] The world
of college basketball
1714
01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:32,736
has lost a pioneer.
1715
01:25:34,085 --> 01:25:35,565
Jerry Harkness was best known
1716
01:25:35,608 --> 01:25:38,133
for the history he made
as a Loyola Rambler.
1717
01:25:39,003 --> 01:25:40,396
Harkness would go on to work
1718
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,615
for the United Way of Central
Indiana.
1719
01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:44,965
He helped start the Indiana
Black Expo
1720
01:25:45,009 --> 01:25:47,185
and he was the first black
sportscaster
1721
01:25:47,229 --> 01:25:49,013
on Indianapolis television.
1722
01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:52,277
Jerry Harkness was 81 years old.
1723
01:25:53,365 --> 01:25:55,976
[solemn music]
1724
01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:59,371
- During the 1963 season,
1725
01:25:59,415 --> 01:26:01,982
we see numerous stories being
told.
1726
01:26:02,026 --> 01:26:04,985
And the obvious one is
a story about a team,
1727
01:26:05,029 --> 01:26:07,292
a team with four black players.
1728
01:26:07,336 --> 01:26:10,382
And they play well and they win.
1729
01:26:11,296 --> 01:26:14,908
And the story doesn't stop.
1730
01:26:14,952 --> 01:26:17,694
Because the story's not
just about basketball.
1731
01:26:17,737 --> 01:26:20,784
This story is about the
worth of an athlete,
1732
01:26:20,827 --> 01:26:22,612
the worth of a black man,
1733
01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,354
their place in society
and what they can demand.
1734
01:26:26,398 --> 01:26:27,704
- It's just a tremendous honor
1735
01:26:27,747 --> 01:26:32,143
for all the team members to be
recognized.
1736
01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:36,452
It's a chance to see the
effect that you've had
1737
01:26:36,495 --> 01:26:38,280
on some of the people that
played,
1738
01:26:38,323 --> 01:26:41,848
some of the black players
that we opened some doors for.
1739
01:26:41,892 --> 01:26:45,374
- We are extremely proud of you.
1740
01:26:45,417 --> 01:26:49,116
You represent the university
1741
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,771
and yourselves extremely well.
1742
01:26:51,815 --> 01:26:55,035
- We try to do our best
to just imitate you guys
1743
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,690
and like what you guys have
done.
1744
01:26:57,734 --> 01:27:01,738
- The best we can do is say
this is to be continued.
1745
01:27:01,781 --> 01:27:03,957
It is a work in progress.
1746
01:27:04,001 --> 01:27:07,047
It is a project that's not yet
ended.
1747
01:27:07,091 --> 01:27:08,440
To make our country one
1748
01:27:08,484 --> 01:27:10,747
that's worthy of what
these men went through.
1749
01:27:11,748 --> 01:27:12,749
- The most important thing
1750
01:27:12,792 --> 01:27:14,446
is that we keep telling the
story.
1751
01:27:14,490 --> 01:27:16,231
Looking back you have
a better understanding
1752
01:27:16,274 --> 01:27:18,842
of why we are in the situation
that we are in today.
1753
01:27:23,673 --> 01:27:26,241
[solemn music]
1754
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,636
- [Lucas] One day,
hopefully long from now,
1755
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,248
my time playing basketball
will come to an end.
1756
01:27:34,292 --> 01:27:36,338
But there will always be more
work to do,
1757
01:27:36,381 --> 01:27:38,601
more unwritten rules to break,
1758
01:27:38,644 --> 01:27:40,167
more ways to make the world
better
1759
01:27:40,211 --> 01:27:41,517
for the next generation.
1760
01:27:42,387 --> 01:27:44,520
To me, that's the inspiration I
think
1761
01:27:44,563 --> 01:27:46,783
we can all carry forward.
1762
01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:49,264
That's the legacy of the '63
Ramblers.
1763
01:27:51,048 --> 01:27:53,616
[gentle music]
1764
01:27:57,402 --> 01:28:00,579
[gentle bright music]
1765
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,483
[gentle bright music continues]
1766
01:29:00,552 --> 01:29:04,556
[gentle bright music continues]
1767
01:29:30,408 --> 01:29:34,369
[gentle bright music continues]
1768
01:30:00,307 --> 01:30:04,311
[gentle bright music continues]
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