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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:15,000 (WATER FLOWING) 2 00:00:15,083 --> 00:00:16,209 GARY BETZNER: Death... 3 00:00:18,125 --> 00:00:19,167 it's inevitable. 4 00:00:20,417 --> 00:00:21,542 There's a hole you're coming out of, 5 00:00:21,626 --> 00:00:23,167 and there's a hole you're gonna go in. 6 00:00:24,626 --> 00:00:26,167 ♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 7 00:00:26,250 --> 00:00:28,459 And nothing on the outside is gonna be here forever. 8 00:00:31,375 --> 00:00:33,876 The stars, the sun, everything's gonna burn out. 9 00:00:33,959 --> 00:00:35,792 Tombstone's gonna sink in the ground. 10 00:00:35,876 --> 00:00:37,959 You know, nobody's ever gonna know you were here. 11 00:00:40,250 --> 00:00:44,125 But, you know, being dead is a-- 12 00:00:44,209 --> 00:00:46,334 It's a liberating experience. 13 00:00:47,334 --> 00:00:49,417 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 14 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:51,459 INTERVIEWER: What are the upsides to being dead? 15 00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:54,459 (CHUCKLES) 16 00:00:54,542 --> 00:00:56,417 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 17 00:01:00,709 --> 00:01:03,209 I wouldn't even get up in the morning if I couldn't make a million. 18 00:01:03,292 --> 00:01:04,584 (AIRPLANE ENGINE REVVING) 19 00:01:08,792 --> 00:01:11,125 GARY: Pretty soon it was two million, and three million, 20 00:01:11,209 --> 00:01:14,542 and then we got one trip a week that was four million. 21 00:01:14,626 --> 00:01:16,667 Being a crop duster, I had a natural knack 22 00:01:16,751 --> 00:01:19,626 for feeling and knowing what my airplane could do. 23 00:01:19,709 --> 00:01:23,209 I love smuggling more than anything I've ever done. 24 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:26,500 I felt like it was a holy thing, 25 00:01:26,584 --> 00:01:29,417 a service to mankind. (CHUCKLES) That's what it always felt like. 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,083 I enjoyed all kinds of illegal drugs. 27 00:01:39,792 --> 00:01:41,334 (CHUCKLES) You know? 28 00:01:41,417 --> 00:01:44,000 -(POLICE SIRENS WAILING) -We are no longer willing to tolerate illegal drugs 29 00:01:44,083 --> 00:01:46,167 -or the sellers. -REPORTER 1: So once again, the drug smugglers 30 00:01:46,250 --> 00:01:48,375 attempting another avenue to try and outsmart... 31 00:01:48,459 --> 00:01:51,000 REPORTER 2: ...to try to prove that the war on drugs is working. 32 00:01:51,083 --> 00:01:54,459 GARY: They had to be illegal, because they were liberating 33 00:01:54,542 --> 00:01:56,167 to the minds and hearts of man. 34 00:01:57,375 --> 00:01:59,167 DAVID HASSELHOFF: Illegal drugs are bad news. 35 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:01,125 -Don't mess with them. -MR T: I just want to shake 36 00:02:01,209 --> 00:02:02,959 some sense into you kids that are using drugs 37 00:02:03,042 --> 00:02:04,167 or thinking about using. 38 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:05,876 Just say no. 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,167 (POLICE SIREN WAILING) 40 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:12,584 GARY: I just didn't feel that anyone had a right 41 00:02:12,667 --> 00:02:15,876 to interfere with anybody's right to self-determination. 42 00:02:19,375 --> 00:02:22,375 The only way you can change a law, a bad law... 43 00:02:25,125 --> 00:02:26,375 is to break it. 44 00:02:26,459 --> 00:02:29,125 ♪ ("THE INVISIBLE PILOT" THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 45 00:02:56,584 --> 00:02:59,125 ♪ (THEME MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 46 00:02:59,209 --> 00:03:02,417 GARY: September the 18th, 1977... 47 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:05,292 I faked my suicide by jumping off a bridge... 48 00:03:06,667 --> 00:03:09,042 and they looked for my body for about two weeks. 49 00:03:09,125 --> 00:03:10,959 Sally put on such a good act. 50 00:03:13,417 --> 00:03:15,918 ♪ (ENIGMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 51 00:03:17,417 --> 00:03:19,375 You know, making it out to the West Coast was 52 00:03:19,459 --> 00:03:22,083 a beautiful, beautiful adventure. 53 00:03:22,167 --> 00:03:25,459 And from that point on, my life changed. 54 00:03:26,167 --> 00:03:29,417 (INDISTINCT CLAMORING) 55 00:03:31,375 --> 00:03:34,626 (SIGHS, LAUGHS) 56 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:38,125 (LAUGHS) 57 00:03:38,209 --> 00:03:40,500 Do you know who touched this flower? (GIGGLES) 58 00:03:40,584 --> 00:03:42,626 The Lord of the Universe. (LAUGHS) 59 00:03:42,709 --> 00:03:45,292 ♪ The Lord of the Universe ♪ 60 00:03:45,375 --> 00:03:48,125 ♪ Has come to us this day... ♪ 61 00:03:48,209 --> 00:03:51,250 GARY: I found the most incredible teacher, 62 00:03:51,334 --> 00:03:54,709 my guru, Srin Pa Sin Rawan, 63 00:03:56,167 --> 00:03:57,209 Maharaji. 64 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,500 He only talked about one thing and one thing only, 65 00:04:04,584 --> 00:04:08,584 and that's the experience of knowledge of the self... 66 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,626 to have true peace in your life. 67 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:13,000 (CROWD CHEERING) 68 00:04:13,083 --> 00:04:15,417 GARY: Back in those days, they almost had, like, a cult. 69 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:16,626 It was almost-- (EXHALES) 70 00:04:16,709 --> 00:04:18,834 Man, it was like a religion type of something. 71 00:04:18,918 --> 00:04:20,334 It was real beautiful. 72 00:04:20,417 --> 00:04:23,250 I know there's something more about what I was looking for. 73 00:04:23,334 --> 00:04:25,125 I didn't know what I was looking for. 74 00:04:25,209 --> 00:04:26,709 But if I knew what I was looking for, 75 00:04:26,792 --> 00:04:29,250 then I wouldn't need to know what I was looking for. 76 00:04:29,334 --> 00:04:31,626 And that's what Maharaji shows us. 77 00:04:31,709 --> 00:04:33,125 The inner self. 78 00:04:33,209 --> 00:04:35,709 "The God inside, the heaven inside" they call it. 79 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,834 MAHARAJI: 80 00:04:48,167 --> 00:04:50,292 GARY: I'm not even a spiritual person. 81 00:04:50,375 --> 00:04:51,500 What the fuck? 82 00:04:51,584 --> 00:04:53,834 I'm a process person. (CHUCKLES) You know what I mean? 83 00:04:56,125 --> 00:05:00,459 That opened everything up for me. I was doing enemas 84 00:05:00,542 --> 00:05:02,459 with salt water, down at the beach at night, 85 00:05:02,542 --> 00:05:05,667 and fasting, and I found a place that was full of fruit, 86 00:05:05,751 --> 00:05:07,918 and so I'd go up and I'd steal fruit at night. 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,209 Eating nothing but fruit for months, 88 00:05:10,292 --> 00:05:12,709 I went down to 135 pounds. 89 00:05:12,792 --> 00:05:14,000 And just tripping on mushrooms, 90 00:05:14,083 --> 00:05:17,709 and smoking weed and hanging out and living every day. 91 00:05:17,792 --> 00:05:21,250 Planted some marijuana, had some small plants coming up. 92 00:05:21,334 --> 00:05:22,918 I didn't know what I was doing, but... 93 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,042 (CHUCKLES) ...I was getting started. 94 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:27,667 If it were left up to me, I'd have been perfectly happy 95 00:05:27,751 --> 00:05:29,626 just being a hippie, smoking weed every day, 96 00:05:29,709 --> 00:05:31,000 and growing a few plants. 97 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:34,709 (WATER PIPE BUBBLES) 98 00:05:34,792 --> 00:05:36,417 (INHALES) Mm-hmm. 99 00:05:41,125 --> 00:05:42,792 (EXHALES) 100 00:05:45,042 --> 00:05:49,584 SALLY: That duality of living our double life, 101 00:05:50,375 --> 00:05:52,542 it could be uncomfortable. 102 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:55,417 -(BIRDS SQUAWKING) -(BELL TOLLING) 103 00:05:57,792 --> 00:06:00,500 But then again, it was a game. 104 00:06:00,584 --> 00:06:02,709 I liked playing it. It was fun. 105 00:06:03,876 --> 00:06:05,876 It's like being a secret agent. 106 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:10,375 It's like you never knew what's around the next curve. 107 00:06:10,459 --> 00:06:14,000 The Sheriff's department would come to our house. 108 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:17,959 You know, the first week, it was pretty regular, 109 00:06:18,042 --> 00:06:20,918 and then the longer it was, the less they would come. 110 00:06:22,042 --> 00:06:24,542 They would ask me the same question, 111 00:06:24,626 --> 00:06:26,792 and I would tell them the same answer, 112 00:06:26,876 --> 00:06:29,375 to the point where they didn't bother to come back again 113 00:06:29,459 --> 00:06:32,292 because my story didn't change. (CHUCKLES) 114 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 We just bided our time. 115 00:06:35,626 --> 00:06:40,000 (TELEPHONE RINGING) 116 00:06:41,167 --> 00:06:43,918 (TELEPHONE RINGING) 117 00:06:45,167 --> 00:06:47,334 (TELEPHONE RECEIVER CLACKING) 118 00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:49,500 GARY: In Arkansas, outside of Carlisle, 119 00:06:49,584 --> 00:06:52,709 there's a telephone booth. And I would call my wife 120 00:06:52,792 --> 00:06:54,751 on a certain day at a certain time. 121 00:06:54,834 --> 00:06:58,500 (CHUCKLES) And it was so funny, I called that payphone collect 122 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:00,500 and she would accept the collect call, 123 00:07:00,584 --> 00:07:02,459 and the phone company never knew. 124 00:07:02,542 --> 00:07:05,500 We talked for hours on their dime. (CHUCKLES) 125 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:08,167 And we'd make plans 126 00:07:08,250 --> 00:07:10,709 to see each other, wherever he was. 127 00:07:14,209 --> 00:07:17,918 I never once told the kids that he was still alive. 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,751 I couldn't trust them not to tell 'em. 129 00:07:19,834 --> 00:07:21,292 You know, they were kids. 130 00:07:22,417 --> 00:07:25,000 It was Thanksgiving... 131 00:07:25,083 --> 00:07:28,417 and my whole family went down to Sheridan, Arkansas, 132 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,459 dropped the kids off. 133 00:07:30,542 --> 00:07:34,876 Told them that I was going to New Orleans to see King Tut. 134 00:07:36,042 --> 00:07:41,542 First time in America. I hauled ass from Sheridan 135 00:07:41,626 --> 00:07:43,959 to New Orleans in record time... 136 00:07:45,083 --> 00:07:48,209 to get to the airport, and I flew to L.A. 137 00:07:49,751 --> 00:07:52,167 Of course, all the time not knowing if I'm being watched. 138 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:54,834 Gary picks me up at the airport, 139 00:07:54,918 --> 00:07:58,125 throws a piece of acid in my mouth. (CHUCKLES) 140 00:08:00,459 --> 00:08:03,459 We get in this Volkswagen bus of his 141 00:08:03,542 --> 00:08:06,334 and start going north on Highway 1. 142 00:08:06,417 --> 00:08:10,250 And we're just thinking of names that we're gonna have. 143 00:08:10,334 --> 00:08:13,667 My favorite name was Lucas, Lucas Noel. 144 00:08:13,751 --> 00:08:15,250 So I gotta get a last name now, 145 00:08:15,334 --> 00:08:16,667 I gotta find a cool last name. 146 00:08:18,417 --> 00:08:22,000 SALLY: Then all of a sudden, our headlights went straight 147 00:08:22,083 --> 00:08:23,918 to Harmony, California. 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,334 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 149 00:08:27,417 --> 00:08:30,959 I said, "That's perfect. That's my name right there." 150 00:08:31,042 --> 00:08:34,292 And so I name myself Harmony. Lucas Noel Harmony. 151 00:08:37,209 --> 00:08:39,250 Lucas is light, Noel's peace, and Harmony. 152 00:08:39,334 --> 00:08:40,751 Light, peace, and harmony. (CHUCKLES) 153 00:08:40,834 --> 00:08:42,667 That was my hippie name, right? 154 00:08:42,751 --> 00:08:45,500 (CAR ENGINE REVVING) 155 00:08:47,292 --> 00:08:50,375 Well, I only stayed with him for that long weekend. 156 00:08:50,459 --> 00:08:53,209 I had to go back to Arkansas 157 00:08:53,292 --> 00:08:55,542 to be with the kids and act normal. 158 00:08:55,626 --> 00:08:59,125 And I started preparing to leave. 159 00:08:59,209 --> 00:09:01,459 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 160 00:09:01,542 --> 00:09:04,167 TRAVIS: One day, mom goes, "We're moving to Kansas." 161 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:06,083 That's what she said. "We're going to Kansas!" 162 00:09:06,167 --> 00:09:07,834 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) 163 00:09:07,918 --> 00:09:10,918 TRAVIS: So we all got on a plane and flew to Kansas. 164 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,667 We got out of the airport, took a taxi to a house. 165 00:09:16,667 --> 00:09:17,792 There were people in this house. 166 00:09:17,876 --> 00:09:20,375 I didn't know them. We went through the house. 167 00:09:20,459 --> 00:09:22,292 Went out the backyard, and got in a taxi, 168 00:09:22,375 --> 00:09:23,667 and went back to the airport. 169 00:09:24,918 --> 00:09:28,125 And then we flew somewhere else with different clothes on. 170 00:09:28,209 --> 00:09:30,209 When we landed next, they put flowers on us. 171 00:09:30,292 --> 00:09:32,584 You know, when you get off the plane. Leis. You know? 172 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:34,417 (SCOFFS) You get lei'd. 173 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:37,083 That right there was a big sign to me, "This ain't Kansas." 174 00:09:41,167 --> 00:09:44,375 ♪ (DISTORTED HAWAIIAN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 175 00:09:48,709 --> 00:09:50,792 TRAVIS: We're sitting there on this bench, and... 176 00:09:50,876 --> 00:09:54,542 this guy comes up with a skinny-- with this beard. 177 00:09:54,626 --> 00:09:56,709 Kind of Charles Manson-looking, you know? 178 00:09:56,792 --> 00:09:58,959 And he grabbed us, and he's like... (CACKLES) 179 00:09:59,042 --> 00:10:00,000 (CACKLES) 180 00:10:00,083 --> 00:10:03,042 (CACKLES) And I-- Instantly, my mind goes, 181 00:10:03,125 --> 00:10:05,167 "My mom just sold us to this guy." 182 00:10:06,459 --> 00:10:08,584 I looked in his eyes, and looked at him, and I go, 183 00:10:08,667 --> 00:10:10,292 "Dad!" And he goes, "No, no, no, no. 184 00:10:10,375 --> 00:10:14,626 Lucas, I'm Lucas." And I-- My whole universe changed, man. 185 00:10:14,709 --> 00:10:17,667 ♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 186 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,500 And I'm like, "Wow, he's alive." 187 00:10:31,584 --> 00:10:32,834 Sara Lee's like, "He's alive." 188 00:10:32,918 --> 00:10:35,209 "Wow! This is my-- Wow! My dad's somebody else. 189 00:10:35,292 --> 00:10:36,500 He came back from heaven." 190 00:10:38,209 --> 00:10:40,292 He was so different. You can see pictures of him. 191 00:10:40,375 --> 00:10:43,250 He was not Gary, he's nothing like he is now. I mean, nothing. 192 00:10:43,334 --> 00:10:46,042 He didn't talk that way, he was skinny, he was a hippie. 193 00:10:46,125 --> 00:10:47,876 He was like something out of Cheech and Chong, 194 00:10:47,959 --> 00:10:49,834 but not that stupid. You know what I mean? 195 00:10:49,918 --> 00:10:51,292 When I found out he was alive, 196 00:10:51,375 --> 00:10:52,876 that was more intense than when he died. 197 00:10:53,459 --> 00:10:54,667 I loved it! 198 00:10:54,751 --> 00:10:57,751 Those were the happiest years of my life. I don't think-- 199 00:10:57,834 --> 00:10:59,709 If I've ever been happy, that was it. 200 00:11:02,083 --> 00:11:03,792 SARA LEE: My dad died in 1977. 201 00:11:06,083 --> 00:11:09,959 Lucas Harmony is another person that raised me. 202 00:11:10,042 --> 00:11:11,417 Same person, but two different people, 203 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:15,876 because he acted in Hazen. He played the part. 204 00:11:15,959 --> 00:11:18,417 I remember skipping down a mountain in Hawaii, 205 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:20,667 you know, skipping down a lava road. 206 00:11:20,751 --> 00:11:23,042 We were skipping so fast that we were almost flying. 207 00:11:24,876 --> 00:11:26,834 It's, like, one of my favorite moments of my dad. 208 00:11:28,334 --> 00:11:29,584 I was happy. 209 00:11:31,209 --> 00:11:33,125 What a perfect time to be on the run. 210 00:11:39,292 --> 00:11:42,250 POLLY: After my dad's suicide, 211 00:11:42,334 --> 00:11:44,167 that's when I couldn't go anywhere 212 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:45,876 without a night light. 213 00:11:45,959 --> 00:11:48,375 ♪ (GLOOMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 214 00:11:48,459 --> 00:11:51,292 We all thought he was dead, and I wanted to sleep 215 00:11:51,375 --> 00:11:52,584 right next to my mom. 216 00:11:54,667 --> 00:11:55,959 I mean, I was six. 217 00:11:57,709 --> 00:11:59,626 What I thought is, 218 00:11:59,709 --> 00:12:01,959 "Well, why didn't he want to stay around for me?" 219 00:12:02,042 --> 00:12:05,459 Like, what was wrong with me? Why did he want to kill himself? 220 00:12:05,542 --> 00:12:08,709 Did I do something wrong? Was I not pretty enough? 221 00:12:08,792 --> 00:12:11,584 Was I not good enough? Was I not smart enough? 222 00:12:11,667 --> 00:12:13,250 Like, what was wrong with me? 223 00:12:15,292 --> 00:12:18,000 It put a hole in my heart of, like, "Who am I?" 224 00:12:18,083 --> 00:12:19,375 Was I not worth anything? 225 00:12:21,459 --> 00:12:23,584 You know, I just wanted, like, my dad. 226 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:34,459 SALLY: When we lived in Hawaii, the kids couldn't tell anybody, 227 00:12:34,542 --> 00:12:38,334 even any of their friends, that we were from Arkansas. 228 00:12:38,417 --> 00:12:39,959 You know, tell them we're from Texas, 229 00:12:40,042 --> 00:12:42,918 'cause you couldn't hide the Southern accent. 230 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,042 TRAVIS: We ate everything off the land, 231 00:12:45,125 --> 00:12:46,959 we ran around naked all the time. 232 00:12:47,042 --> 00:12:50,042 It was awesome! It was like I literally lived in paradise. 233 00:12:52,167 --> 00:12:54,459 It was the most magical thing in the world. 234 00:12:54,542 --> 00:12:58,083 ♪ (TROPICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 235 00:12:58,167 --> 00:13:00,626 SALLY: We had been growing pot. 236 00:13:00,709 --> 00:13:04,792 We had these strings hanging up, maybe four or five of them, 237 00:13:04,876 --> 00:13:07,334 with these big, long buds. 238 00:13:07,417 --> 00:13:11,125 At six o'clock, one morning, I heard the door knock, 239 00:13:11,209 --> 00:13:13,125 I looked out and saw the cops. 240 00:13:14,125 --> 00:13:16,417 We had a sign on our property. 241 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:17,876 It was like, "Take off your clothes 242 00:13:17,959 --> 00:13:19,834 and come in." Because we were nudists. 243 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:25,000 They came in, and they said, "Come down, come down." 244 00:13:25,083 --> 00:13:27,042 So I just said, "Okay." 245 00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:30,083 I came down those stairs, naked as a jaybird. (CHUCKLES) 246 00:13:30,167 --> 00:13:31,375 Naked as a jaybird. 247 00:13:31,459 --> 00:13:34,542 Naked as a jaybird and as proud as a princess. 248 00:13:34,626 --> 00:13:37,334 (CHUCKLES) In front of all those Hawaiian cops. 249 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:39,626 I was not gonna let them intimidate me. 250 00:13:39,709 --> 00:13:42,209 And she walked out there, and she says, with her hands on her hips, 251 00:13:42,292 --> 00:13:44,542 "Well? Now, what do you boys want?" 252 00:13:44,626 --> 00:13:47,000 "Well, we got information that you are growing marijuana 253 00:13:47,083 --> 00:13:49,334 up here, ma'am, on this property." 254 00:13:49,417 --> 00:13:51,876 (CHUCKLES) They allowed me to get my clothes on 255 00:13:51,959 --> 00:13:56,083 before they put the handcuffs on me. (CHUCKLES) 256 00:13:56,167 --> 00:13:57,584 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 257 00:13:57,667 --> 00:13:59,042 GARY: So, they took us to town, 258 00:13:59,125 --> 00:14:01,500 they booked us and fingerprinted us. 259 00:14:01,584 --> 00:14:03,459 The cop walked in, he said, "What's this right here?" 260 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:05,417 These guys didn't just fall off a turnip truck. 261 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:06,792 They knew about acid. 262 00:14:06,876 --> 00:14:09,667 I just reached over and picked one up, and-- (SMACKS LIPS) 263 00:14:09,751 --> 00:14:11,042 Picked another one up. (SMACKS LIPS) 264 00:14:11,125 --> 00:14:13,292 Picked another one up. (LAUGHS) I got 'em out of his hand 265 00:14:13,375 --> 00:14:15,167 and put all three in my mouth like that. 266 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:16,334 He said... 267 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,250 He looked at me. He knew what I'd done, you know? 268 00:14:18,334 --> 00:14:21,000 He says. "Whoa!" (LAUGHS) 269 00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:24,250 I didn't know if they were going to... 270 00:14:25,626 --> 00:14:28,167 get those fingerprints and find out who I was, you know? 271 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:30,209 I decided, "Well, we better leave here." 272 00:14:30,292 --> 00:14:32,167 You know, "We can't take a chance." 273 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:35,542 SALLY: And it was just a misdemeanor, 274 00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:37,876 but he was on the run. 275 00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:41,250 So we had to leave the island then. 276 00:14:41,334 --> 00:14:43,709 TRAVIS: It was a real bummer when we had to leave, for me. 277 00:14:43,792 --> 00:14:45,542 I just wanted to stay there. I mean, shit, 278 00:14:45,626 --> 00:14:48,250 I wanted to grow up and learn how to surf or something, like you said, you know? 279 00:14:48,334 --> 00:14:49,584 I was like, "Yeah!" 280 00:14:51,375 --> 00:14:53,626 GARY: So I said, "Look, you go back to Arkansas. 281 00:14:53,709 --> 00:14:55,125 The kids need to go to school." 282 00:14:55,209 --> 00:14:57,250 They hadn't been home in years. 283 00:14:57,334 --> 00:14:58,375 "And I'm gonna go 284 00:14:58,459 --> 00:15:00,250 and do whatever I got to do to get it together 285 00:15:00,334 --> 00:15:01,918 for you and the kids to come back." 286 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,459 I'm broke, I don't have a penny. 287 00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:07,167 But then Maharaji just called and said, "They want you to come 288 00:15:07,250 --> 00:15:08,959 to Miami and work on his airplane." 289 00:15:10,375 --> 00:15:12,709 Holy shit. You know? I mean, really? 290 00:15:12,792 --> 00:15:17,000 So, anyway, I went to work rebuilding a 707. 291 00:15:19,083 --> 00:15:21,083 I think I got paid, like, a hundred dollars a week. 292 00:15:22,417 --> 00:15:25,834 (CROWD CHEERING) 293 00:15:25,918 --> 00:15:30,292 I was following Maharaji, all over Europe, South America, 294 00:15:30,918 --> 00:15:32,334 United States. 295 00:15:33,417 --> 00:15:36,542 Lucas and I met at Miami International. 296 00:15:36,626 --> 00:15:40,959 He came and asked me if I knew anybody who needed a pilot 297 00:15:41,834 --> 00:15:43,959 to fly on a mission. 298 00:15:44,042 --> 00:15:47,209 And I said, "Well, yeah, I think I do." (CHUCKLES) 299 00:15:47,292 --> 00:15:48,500 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) 300 00:15:48,584 --> 00:15:51,375 RAVEN: I put him in touch with a couple of friends, 301 00:15:51,459 --> 00:15:54,125 and from that point, I flew with Luke. 302 00:15:54,209 --> 00:15:57,292 ♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 303 00:16:00,584 --> 00:16:02,709 GARY: My first trip was associated 304 00:16:02,792 --> 00:16:05,375 with these entrepreneurs from Atlanta, Georgia. 305 00:16:05,459 --> 00:16:07,876 Just kids in their twenties. 306 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,709 GARY: I did several other trips after that. 307 00:16:15,792 --> 00:16:17,375 (AIRPLANE ENGINES HUMMING) 308 00:16:17,459 --> 00:16:21,042 That's when I decided I would do whatever I could 309 00:16:21,125 --> 00:16:22,751 to make sure that drugs were available 310 00:16:22,834 --> 00:16:24,083 to anybody who wanted it. 311 00:16:27,083 --> 00:16:32,334 RAVEN: Gary flies like a dragon. I don't recall one single time 312 00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:34,918 where there weren't spins or rolls. 313 00:16:36,209 --> 00:16:39,500 (CHUCKLES) We were all over the sky. 314 00:16:39,584 --> 00:16:41,042 GARY: Being in the smuggling business, 315 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:44,834 to me, it was a very satisfying service. 316 00:16:44,918 --> 00:16:46,667 It wasn't because of the money I was making. 317 00:16:46,751 --> 00:16:48,751 It was because of what I was doing. 318 00:16:48,834 --> 00:16:49,918 (INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER) 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,167 The DEA was everywhere. They always have been. 320 00:17:00,334 --> 00:17:04,792 -(POLICE SIREN WAILING) -(OFFICERS SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) 321 00:17:06,375 --> 00:17:09,375 We've got a real invasion. It's active, it's every day, 322 00:17:09,459 --> 00:17:11,292 and we need to stop them. 323 00:17:11,375 --> 00:17:13,709 GARY: I never really worried about getting caught. 324 00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:15,709 I guess that's typical. Most criminals, 325 00:17:15,792 --> 00:17:17,667 they don't think they're ever gonna get caught. 326 00:17:20,375 --> 00:17:21,542 Being a crop duster 327 00:17:21,626 --> 00:17:24,667 was the best training in the world for that work. 328 00:17:24,751 --> 00:17:27,792 Carrying heavy loads over unimproved air strips, 329 00:17:27,876 --> 00:17:30,209 in all kinds of weather conditions. 330 00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:32,000 Plus, I did four years in the Navy. 331 00:17:32,083 --> 00:17:34,584 I knew just about everything there was about radar, 332 00:17:34,667 --> 00:17:36,375 and how to evade a radar. 333 00:17:36,459 --> 00:17:38,250 I even built a little radar detector 334 00:17:38,334 --> 00:17:40,500 I could hold in my hand, and find out where the radar 335 00:17:40,584 --> 00:17:43,334 is the strongest so you can navigate through it. 336 00:17:43,417 --> 00:17:49,792 We'd be flying and you would see DEA just looking, physically. 337 00:17:49,876 --> 00:17:51,584 GARY: I always could get right on the water. 338 00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:54,334 And I know they can't see down on the water, like I get on the water. 339 00:17:54,417 --> 00:17:56,751 And now you fucked them all up, and they got to start all over 340 00:17:56,834 --> 00:17:59,709 because you didn't go where they expected you to go. (CHUCKLES) 341 00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:02,876 -(AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) -(POLICE SIREN WAILING) 342 00:18:02,959 --> 00:18:05,000 RONALD REAGAN: What kind of people are we 343 00:18:05,083 --> 00:18:08,000 if we continue to tolerate in our midst 344 00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:10,459 an invisible, lawless empire? 345 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,959 REPORTER: President Reagan is promising to open a new front 346 00:18:13,042 --> 00:18:15,417 -in the on war on drugs. -...took in its war on drugs. 347 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:16,834 ...the war on drugs. 348 00:18:16,918 --> 00:18:20,042 If you are gonna have a war, you have to have opposition. 349 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:23,459 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 350 00:18:23,542 --> 00:18:26,167 -(POLICE SIREN WAILING) -(DOGS BARKING) 351 00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:29,292 I was on the other side. That's the way I looked at it. 352 00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:30,626 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) 353 00:18:30,709 --> 00:18:32,334 ♪ (ROCK MUSIC FADES) ♪ 354 00:18:33,792 --> 00:18:37,626 SALLY: After living in Hawaii, going back to Hazen, 355 00:18:37,709 --> 00:18:40,626 I just was in a totally different world. 356 00:18:40,709 --> 00:18:42,584 ♪ (GLOOMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 357 00:18:43,918 --> 00:18:45,959 I just told everybody 358 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:48,500 that I was trying to live somewhere else, 359 00:18:48,584 --> 00:18:51,751 and start a new life there and... 360 00:18:51,834 --> 00:18:55,375 Just didn't work out. (CHUCKLES) 361 00:18:55,459 --> 00:19:00,918 Hazen was not the place I wanted to be, ever. 362 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,292 Then you always felt, you know, they look at you different. 363 00:19:05,792 --> 00:19:08,083 You know, it was a dual life for a long time. 364 00:19:08,167 --> 00:19:13,334 Normal life with the kids and the school, and then 365 00:19:13,417 --> 00:19:17,584 be in love with a smuggler. It gets complicated, 366 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:20,834 and your mind has to switch gears. 367 00:19:20,918 --> 00:19:22,959 I learned to lie at an early age. 368 00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:25,709 It could be him faking his death, 369 00:19:25,792 --> 00:19:27,334 and then me being told 370 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:29,751 not to crack or tell anyone he's alive. 371 00:19:29,834 --> 00:19:32,751 I mean, 'cause think about it. As a five-year-old, 372 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:34,250 grasping that if I told people 373 00:19:34,334 --> 00:19:36,083 my dad was alive, we were gonna get taken away 374 00:19:36,167 --> 00:19:38,334 and go to prison, you know? I was going to be taken 375 00:19:38,417 --> 00:19:39,918 from my parents and they would go to prison 376 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,584 if I told them somebody he was alive. 377 00:19:41,667 --> 00:19:43,459 That's some heavy shit to lay on a little kid. 378 00:19:43,542 --> 00:19:47,000 But I liked it. Like it's some kind of espionage, you know? 379 00:19:47,083 --> 00:19:49,250 It felt good to not tell anybody he was alive, 380 00:19:49,334 --> 00:19:50,709 and I knew it and nobody else knew it. 381 00:19:50,792 --> 00:19:52,375 It was something I had over everyone else. 382 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,125 He was my secret. My power. 383 00:19:59,459 --> 00:20:01,542 GARY: Most people that become drug smugglers 384 00:20:01,626 --> 00:20:03,375 make one or two trips, make enough cash 385 00:20:03,459 --> 00:20:06,250 to get in business, and go do something else. 386 00:20:06,334 --> 00:20:11,334 But I'd lost my family. I'd lost-- Actually, I was dead. 387 00:20:11,417 --> 00:20:14,292 And I didn't have responsibility to anybody, 388 00:20:14,375 --> 00:20:18,500 so it didn't bother me to, you know, go every day. 389 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:22,209 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 390 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,209 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) 391 00:20:24,292 --> 00:20:27,417 Luke pushes the envelope beyond anybody's way 392 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:29,667 of doing it that I have ever known. 393 00:20:29,751 --> 00:20:33,959 I had 20 or 30 hours of private flying experience 394 00:20:34,042 --> 00:20:35,751 when Luke and I met. 395 00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:37,709 Then I really learned to fly. 396 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:39,626 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMS) 397 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:45,500 RAVEN: As a co-pilot, 398 00:20:45,584 --> 00:20:49,250 I had to toss the bales out into the ocean 399 00:20:49,334 --> 00:20:53,125 where our boat people would come and swoop 'em up. 400 00:20:56,834 --> 00:20:58,542 GARY: I really love weed. 401 00:20:58,626 --> 00:21:00,292 'Cause the more weed I can bring in, 402 00:21:00,375 --> 00:21:02,334 the more the possibility of enlightenment 403 00:21:02,417 --> 00:21:04,125 and peace on Earth, you know? (CHUCKLES) 404 00:21:04,209 --> 00:21:07,292 That was my spiritual contribution. 405 00:21:07,375 --> 00:21:10,167 I would have continued to be in the marijuana business, 406 00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:13,000 but the DEA screwed that up. 407 00:21:13,083 --> 00:21:16,500 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING) 408 00:21:16,584 --> 00:21:18,375 ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM SMITH: Today, I am announcing 409 00:21:18,459 --> 00:21:23,417 the most successful international marijuana interdiction effort to date, 410 00:21:24,209 --> 00:21:26,375 codenamed Operation Tiburon. 411 00:21:30,042 --> 00:21:31,918 Operation Tiburon busted 412 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,876 practically all the weed in Colombia. 413 00:21:37,792 --> 00:21:39,542 REPORTER: Federal officials today talked up 414 00:21:39,626 --> 00:21:41,125 their latest big drug bust... 415 00:21:41,209 --> 00:21:44,042 ATTORNEY GENERAL SMITH: One of the most important steps ever taken 416 00:21:44,125 --> 00:21:46,125 against the narcotics problem. 417 00:21:46,209 --> 00:21:48,709 REAGAN: The results of our task force have been dramatic. 418 00:21:48,792 --> 00:21:51,751 Drug-related arrests are up over 40 percent. 419 00:21:51,834 --> 00:21:55,042 The amount of marijuana seized is up about 80 percent. 420 00:21:55,125 --> 00:21:57,709 RUDY GIULIANI: This program will allow us, for the very first time 421 00:21:57,792 --> 00:22:00,000 in the history of the Drug Enforcement Administration, 422 00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:02,626 to increase the number of agents, federal agents, 423 00:22:02,709 --> 00:22:04,834 who actually do drug work. 424 00:22:04,918 --> 00:22:08,209 GARY: Ten ships, and 50 airplanes and 500 people. 425 00:22:08,292 --> 00:22:10,000 Everything got shut down in Colombia. 426 00:22:10,083 --> 00:22:12,167 REAGAN: We're hurting the traffickers. 427 00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:14,459 It's true that when we close off one place, 428 00:22:14,542 --> 00:22:16,250 they can move somewhere else. 429 00:22:16,334 --> 00:22:18,334 But one thing is different now. 430 00:22:18,417 --> 00:22:20,125 We're going to be waiting for them. 431 00:22:23,584 --> 00:22:24,959 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC FADES) ♪ 432 00:22:25,042 --> 00:22:26,209 (BALE THUDS) 433 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,959 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 434 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:32,000 RAVEN: At times, we would fly out, 435 00:22:32,083 --> 00:22:34,709 and then come back into the islands, 436 00:22:34,792 --> 00:22:39,125 and things wouldn't be as we had "anticipated." 437 00:22:40,751 --> 00:22:45,667 So we would have to land somewhere else and deal with it. 438 00:22:47,709 --> 00:22:50,375 GARY: 439 00:22:50,459 --> 00:22:51,876 (AIRPLANE ENGINE SPUTTERING) 440 00:22:55,292 --> 00:22:57,292 But if you're 500 miles out there, 441 00:22:57,375 --> 00:22:59,083 you're probably not gonna survive. 442 00:22:59,167 --> 00:23:00,500 (ENGINE STRUGGLING) 443 00:23:00,584 --> 00:23:04,209 GARY: 444 00:23:06,042 --> 00:23:08,500 You become really, really focused in the moment. 445 00:23:09,542 --> 00:23:11,292 Everything becomes real still. 446 00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:14,876 I said, "Fuck it, man." I pulled the nose up, 447 00:23:14,959 --> 00:23:17,792 I full-throttled it. (IMITATES ENGINE HUM) 448 00:23:17,876 --> 00:23:20,125 Turned over like this, you know, and I pull the power off, 449 00:23:20,209 --> 00:23:21,709 and I dive for the ground. 450 00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:23,375 I mean, I was coming in just like this. 451 00:23:23,459 --> 00:23:26,459 And just when I had enough air speed, I sucked it back... 452 00:23:26,542 --> 00:23:29,083 (IMITATES TIRES SCREECHING) Right on into the runway. 453 00:23:29,167 --> 00:23:31,751 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 454 00:23:32,751 --> 00:23:38,500 GARY: 455 00:23:41,584 --> 00:23:42,834 That's when I met George. 456 00:23:44,542 --> 00:23:46,876 George Morales. He's from Bogotá. 457 00:23:46,959 --> 00:23:48,959 He became, like, the world's champion 458 00:23:49,042 --> 00:23:50,959 offshore boat racer. 459 00:23:51,042 --> 00:23:53,209 (SPEEDBOAT ENGINE ROARING) 460 00:23:53,292 --> 00:23:54,667 REPORTER: Two-time world champion 461 00:23:54,751 --> 00:23:57,500 and Miami-New York record holder, George Morales. 462 00:23:57,584 --> 00:23:58,667 (CROWD CHEERING) 463 00:23:58,751 --> 00:24:01,918 We have a 90 percent chance that we're going back, 464 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,292 racing again to just lay down another record. 465 00:24:08,209 --> 00:24:11,292 GARY: He drove a Mercedes, he wore fancy jewelry, 466 00:24:11,375 --> 00:24:14,626 very expensive clothes. He was a straight-up criminal. 467 00:24:15,626 --> 00:24:17,042 I had a lot of respect for him. 468 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:19,709 He was dealing cocaine big-time, marijuana big-time. 469 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,417 (CHUCKLES) And smuggling, too. You know what I mean? 470 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,876 He took me over to his house, and we hit it off pretty good. 471 00:24:25,959 --> 00:24:29,500 I told him, "I lost my load here and I'd like to get it back, if you could help me." 472 00:24:29,584 --> 00:24:31,417 Said he couldn't. It was already gone, 473 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,500 nothing he could do about it. And he asked if I, uh... 474 00:24:34,584 --> 00:24:36,584 wanted to fly for him. I said, "For sure." 475 00:24:46,209 --> 00:24:47,584 That was a lot of cocaine. 476 00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:49,584 Just for George himself, probably 50 trips. 477 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:51,959 A good policy is... 478 00:24:53,375 --> 00:24:55,000 learn how to become invisible. 479 00:24:56,709 --> 00:24:59,417 I had five passports in different lock boxes 480 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,000 -in different banks. -(SIRENS WAILING) 481 00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:02,709 If I'd get a bunch of speeding tickets 482 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:05,000 and, you know, have a lot of problems, I'd just 483 00:25:05,083 --> 00:25:06,751 put one of them back in the lockbox 484 00:25:06,834 --> 00:25:07,918 and get a new one out, 485 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,709 and whoever I had in my pocket, that's who I was. 486 00:25:12,751 --> 00:25:15,292 Bernie Tomlinson from Lonoke, Arkansas. 487 00:25:15,375 --> 00:25:18,417 He was my best friend. He got killed in a plane crash, 488 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,584 and his wife gave me his birth certificate. 489 00:25:21,667 --> 00:25:24,417 And then my brother-in-law, Travis Leander Mathews, 490 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:28,292 he passed away, so I assumed his identity and passport. 491 00:25:28,375 --> 00:25:30,626 Henderson. I think it was Jeff Henderson. 492 00:25:30,709 --> 00:25:33,500 Not many people knew me under that name. 493 00:25:33,584 --> 00:25:36,834 Steven Gregory Pope, he was a chiropractor. 494 00:25:38,125 --> 00:25:41,042 (BONES CRACKING) 495 00:25:41,125 --> 00:25:43,334 INTERVIEWER: How'd you become a chiropractor? 496 00:25:43,417 --> 00:25:45,500 -Practice. -(INTERVIEWER CHUCKLES) 497 00:25:45,959 --> 00:25:47,042 (NECK CRACKS) 498 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,292 GARY: I rather enjoyed the cocaine smuggling. 499 00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:55,709 You can make so much more money without making that much effort. 500 00:25:56,417 --> 00:25:58,209 We got paid 4,000 a kilo, 501 00:25:58,292 --> 00:25:59,626 and with that particular airplane, 502 00:25:59,709 --> 00:26:00,834 I'd bring up 300 kilos, 503 00:26:00,918 --> 00:26:03,334 so that's one and a quarter million dollars. 504 00:26:03,417 --> 00:26:05,667 I went to a bigger plane that hauled 500 kilos, 505 00:26:05,751 --> 00:26:09,250 and so we'd make two million dollars on a trip. (CHUCKLES) 506 00:26:09,334 --> 00:26:11,459 So I set up this trust fund. 507 00:26:11,542 --> 00:26:13,751 I thought if I died that this trust fund 508 00:26:13,834 --> 00:26:15,125 would be there for my kids. 509 00:26:17,959 --> 00:26:22,417 I started working for Lucas about 1981. 510 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,500 INTERVIEWER: You don't really know him as Gary. 511 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:26,250 ED BERRY: No, I don't know him as Gary. 512 00:26:26,334 --> 00:26:27,918 I met him as Lucas Harmony. 513 00:26:29,709 --> 00:26:32,959 All of us were smoking dope. And he would say to me, "Ed, 514 00:26:33,042 --> 00:26:34,584 you're one of the few guys I know 515 00:26:34,667 --> 00:26:37,042 that can get stoned and still get something done." 516 00:26:37,125 --> 00:26:38,751 He goes, "Ed, I want to hire you." 517 00:26:39,542 --> 00:26:40,667 I did everything. 518 00:26:40,751 --> 00:26:43,209 I kept his refrigerators full, paid all the bills, 519 00:26:43,292 --> 00:26:44,876 washed his cars, I did the yard work. 520 00:26:44,959 --> 00:26:47,083 Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I made him 521 00:26:47,167 --> 00:26:50,459 four quarts of carrot juice and two quarts of apple juice. 522 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,292 They'd hire maids, but they liked 523 00:26:52,375 --> 00:26:53,834 how I vacuumed the carpets. 524 00:26:53,918 --> 00:26:56,417 I was basically an estate manager for him, 525 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,626 but I knew what was going on. 526 00:26:58,709 --> 00:27:02,375 And, uh... it was rather interesting. 527 00:27:02,459 --> 00:27:04,834 (BIRDS CALLING) 528 00:27:06,209 --> 00:27:08,751 ED: Lucas bought a house in Coconut Grove. 529 00:27:08,834 --> 00:27:13,709 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 530 00:27:13,792 --> 00:27:15,709 ED: It wasn't anything fancy, 531 00:27:15,792 --> 00:27:18,375 it was just kind of a regular house. 532 00:27:18,459 --> 00:27:21,751 But because so much money was being made by Lucas 533 00:27:21,834 --> 00:27:25,542 and so much cocaine was going through, 534 00:27:25,626 --> 00:27:28,542 he wanted some secret hiding places. 535 00:27:28,626 --> 00:27:32,375 There would be money in there, there could be cocaine in there. 536 00:27:32,459 --> 00:27:36,167 In the living room, I found 20,000 dollars in 20s. 537 00:27:36,250 --> 00:27:37,959 He probably never would've noticed 538 00:27:38,042 --> 00:27:40,709 he lost 20,000 dollars. 539 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:44,125 GARY: We'd count money until our hands were just filthy. 540 00:27:44,209 --> 00:27:46,751 You know? Ch-ch-ch-ch. (CHUCKLES) 541 00:27:46,834 --> 00:27:49,125 Just filthy, from the money. 542 00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:50,792 (INHALES) 543 00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:53,626 GARY: I tell you what. 544 00:27:53,709 --> 00:27:55,542 I think money is harder to hold on to 545 00:27:55,626 --> 00:27:57,500 than most people realize. 546 00:27:57,584 --> 00:28:00,250 A lot of people make money. It's easy to make money. 547 00:28:00,334 --> 00:28:02,250 But it's hard to hold on to. 548 00:28:02,334 --> 00:28:05,250 -(CROWD LAUGHING) -(SNIFFING) 549 00:28:07,125 --> 00:28:10,751 He had a lot of sex, and I-- in my opinion, 550 00:28:10,834 --> 00:28:14,209 I think Lucas had a lot of sex because, you know, 551 00:28:14,292 --> 00:28:18,125 once you cum, it puts you in a euphoric state. 552 00:28:18,209 --> 00:28:20,584 I was sitting there one time at 2:00 in the morning, 553 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:23,042 and this guy comes down. 554 00:28:23,125 --> 00:28:25,083 The only thing he was wearing was a bandana 555 00:28:25,167 --> 00:28:27,667 with a big feather sticking out of the bandana. 556 00:28:27,751 --> 00:28:30,292 And he says, "I'm from the dog star, Sirius." 557 00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:31,542 (CHUCKLES) 558 00:28:31,626 --> 00:28:34,167 He goes, "Oh, by the way, Lucas wants to talk to you." 559 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:37,459 So I go up to the second floor, where there were some bedrooms. 560 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,125 And this guy's wife is riding Lucas 561 00:28:41,209 --> 00:28:44,125 and they're having anal sex, and Lucas goes, 562 00:28:44,209 --> 00:28:46,417 "I need you to go to the store and get this." 563 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,250 And the woman that was riding him 564 00:28:49,334 --> 00:28:51,209 turns around and goes, "Hi, I'm Susan." 565 00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:54,417 A couple of years later, 566 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:58,000 she ended up being my mother-in-law. (LAUGHS) 567 00:29:01,167 --> 00:29:02,417 RAVEN: When the shift came, 568 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,459 and they were gonna start carrying powder, 569 00:29:04,542 --> 00:29:06,792 I said, "Nope. I've seen this movie, 570 00:29:06,876 --> 00:29:09,000 and I'm not in it." (LAUGHS) 571 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,250 When you start dealing with that kind of money, 572 00:29:14,334 --> 00:29:17,167 you add six zeros to everything 573 00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,083 that we were involved with carrying the herb. 574 00:29:20,167 --> 00:29:21,417 People act different. 575 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:25,459 They carry guns, and they do stupid, stupid shit. 576 00:29:28,626 --> 00:29:30,834 GARY: Raven Walker is a special type of person, 577 00:29:30,918 --> 00:29:32,626 and I love him dearly. 578 00:29:33,459 --> 00:29:35,042 He went with me in places that... 579 00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:37,626 no one else would ever go. 580 00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:41,626 It was a sad day when Raven quit, 581 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:44,167 but I respected his decision. 582 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:48,751 He knew what was at stake. 583 00:29:48,834 --> 00:29:52,751 Most everyone that was involved with carrying cocaine 584 00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:55,125 either wound up dead or in prison. 585 00:29:56,209 --> 00:29:58,375 GARY: I only did two trips myself, 586 00:29:58,459 --> 00:30:00,250 and then I hired a copilot. 587 00:30:01,459 --> 00:30:02,709 Richard Heely. 588 00:30:02,792 --> 00:30:05,876 Richard was a heavyset guy, weighed about 300 pounds. 589 00:30:05,959 --> 00:30:08,542 It was a small airplane. And he'd get in that airplane, 590 00:30:08,626 --> 00:30:12,667 and he'd fill up the whole front seat. (LAUGHS) 591 00:30:12,751 --> 00:30:15,167 And he could never pull the yoke back very far 592 00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:16,459 'cause his belly way out here, 593 00:30:16,542 --> 00:30:18,292 he'd have to scoot the seat way back. 594 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:20,209 But he was a good pilot, really was. 595 00:30:23,876 --> 00:30:26,417 CRAIG HODGES: Gary became an international drug smuggler, 596 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:29,209 and he had made millions and millions and millions of dollars. 597 00:30:30,876 --> 00:30:33,751 But his daughter Polly and his ex-wife 598 00:30:33,834 --> 00:30:35,834 thought he was dead the whole time. 599 00:30:38,959 --> 00:30:40,959 POLLY: My mom was a widow. My dad was dead. 600 00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:44,042 She was a single mom. She would pick me up from school 601 00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:47,375 and we'd go to Wendy's like two or three days a week. 602 00:30:47,459 --> 00:30:49,751 Ordered our single cheeseburger, just mustard, 603 00:30:49,834 --> 00:30:52,125 'cause that's what I always get at Wendy's. 604 00:30:52,209 --> 00:30:54,417 And these guys were sitting next to us, 605 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,626 they were dressed, like, in suits at Wendy's. 606 00:30:57,959 --> 00:31:00,959 They struck up a conversation 'cause I was coughing. 607 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:03,125 "Oh, how long has your daughter been sick?" 608 00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:04,459 "Oh, is your daughter okay?" 609 00:31:04,542 --> 00:31:06,042 And they just kept asking questions. 610 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:07,250 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 611 00:31:07,334 --> 00:31:09,292 And I was like, "I'm gonna be okay." 612 00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:11,125 I just thought it was some, like, nice people 613 00:31:11,209 --> 00:31:14,834 worried about this poor sick kid at Wendy's, you know? 614 00:31:14,918 --> 00:31:18,375 Back then, I was like, "Well, they look different," you know? 615 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:22,751 (SLURPING) 616 00:31:22,834 --> 00:31:24,792 Well, now I know they looked Colombian. 617 00:31:24,876 --> 00:31:29,292 (COMMENTATOR SPEAKING SPANISH OVER LOUDSPEAKER) 618 00:31:29,375 --> 00:31:32,626 GARY: I met Pablo Escobar down in Colombia. 619 00:31:32,709 --> 00:31:35,626 He used to be the one who'd be there in the helicopter 620 00:31:35,709 --> 00:31:37,751 while I was loading my plane. 621 00:31:37,834 --> 00:31:39,250 We liked each other right away, 622 00:31:39,334 --> 00:31:42,417 and we struck up a friendly bond. 623 00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:46,751 (IN SPANISH) 624 00:31:46,834 --> 00:31:48,000 -Muchas gracias. -(CROWD APPLAUDS) 625 00:31:48,083 --> 00:31:49,918 GARY: He's a legend, and rightly so. 626 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,250 I would hope that his praises, not only as a smuggler, 627 00:31:53,334 --> 00:31:54,417 but as a human being, 628 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:56,459 would be sung, you know? 629 00:31:56,542 --> 00:32:00,000 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(CROWD APPLAUDING) 630 00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:02,167 GARY: I even bought an airplane one time for him. 631 00:32:04,417 --> 00:32:06,792 One day he just looked at me, and he says... 632 00:32:06,876 --> 00:32:10,000 he knew where I was from, my children, 633 00:32:10,792 --> 00:32:12,250 that I committed suicide. 634 00:32:13,292 --> 00:32:14,459 INTERVIEWER: 635 00:32:14,542 --> 00:32:16,500 GARY: No, I didn't tell him anything, I mean... 636 00:32:16,584 --> 00:32:19,209 apparently he had hired somebody up here 637 00:32:19,292 --> 00:32:20,334 to investigate who I was. 638 00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:22,292 -(CROWD CHEERING) -GARY: It's like insurance. 639 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:25,083 I mean, you buy insurance to cover your ass, right? 640 00:32:25,167 --> 00:32:26,459 So he knew my family, 641 00:32:26,542 --> 00:32:30,417 and he very definitely knew about Sally and Claudia. 642 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:31,918 If he didn't know everything about you, 643 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,125 there was no way you were gonna know him. 644 00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:38,125 -POLLY: A week after Wendy's... -(KNOCKING AT DOOR) 645 00:32:38,209 --> 00:32:39,959 ...the Colombians showed up at our house. 646 00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:44,417 One time somebody came and knocked on our door 647 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,667 and wanted to take a picture of me and Polly. 648 00:32:46,751 --> 00:32:48,167 POLLY: My mom was standing, like, 649 00:32:48,250 --> 00:32:50,459 looking at these guys, like, "Who are you?" 650 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,626 Right after that is when she started sleeping with a gun 651 00:32:54,709 --> 00:32:55,834 under her pillow. 652 00:32:57,459 --> 00:33:00,250 GARY: I know that Pablo checked on my family 653 00:33:00,334 --> 00:33:02,292 because they took pictures 654 00:33:02,375 --> 00:33:03,918 and brought the photographs back to me. 655 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,292 I got the message. 656 00:33:07,584 --> 00:33:09,042 It was necessary for him to know 657 00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:11,167 what I had in the world that I valued. 658 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:13,751 I was totally okay with that 659 00:33:13,834 --> 00:33:16,959 because there was no way I was ever gonna cross him. 660 00:33:17,042 --> 00:33:20,292 (REPORTERS CLAMORING IN SPANISH) 661 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,584 (BIRDS TWITTERING) 662 00:33:25,667 --> 00:33:28,000 I wanted to move over here to Florida. 663 00:33:30,167 --> 00:33:32,584 My dad had a house in Coconut Grove here, 664 00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:33,792 a really nice house. 665 00:33:34,709 --> 00:33:36,334 A lot of weird stuff happened there. 666 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:42,667 One summer, we spent the whole summer with him 667 00:33:42,751 --> 00:33:45,000 in Florida. 668 00:33:45,083 --> 00:33:48,834 He lived like, as I remember, as Scarface. 669 00:33:48,918 --> 00:33:51,083 You walk in, it's white carpet, you walk downstairs, 670 00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:54,083 it's this huge room with a couch, all white. 671 00:33:54,167 --> 00:33:57,751 All white. TV screens so you could see who was outside. 672 00:33:57,834 --> 00:33:59,375 And my dad hands me carrot juice. 673 00:33:59,459 --> 00:34:01,876 Said, "Don't spill it." (LAUGHS) 674 00:34:01,959 --> 00:34:03,167 He was happy as fuck, 675 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:05,167 but he was high as hell, you know? 676 00:34:07,792 --> 00:34:11,959 SALLY: Gary met this chick, and he was all in for, 677 00:34:12,042 --> 00:34:14,542 "It's gonna be a threesome, and we're gonna be in love, 678 00:34:14,626 --> 00:34:16,584 and it's gonna be a wonderful life." 679 00:34:17,292 --> 00:34:18,792 Being in love with Gary, 680 00:34:18,876 --> 00:34:21,334 I said, "Okay, I'll go along with this." 681 00:34:21,417 --> 00:34:24,792 I thought the whole family was gonna be together, 682 00:34:24,876 --> 00:34:28,083 but he was with this queen bee. 683 00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:30,751 And they got the master suite, 684 00:34:30,834 --> 00:34:35,000 and the kids and I got the lower, small bedrooms. 685 00:34:35,083 --> 00:34:37,375 (LAUGHING) I'm going, "You son of a gun." 686 00:34:37,459 --> 00:34:40,918 (LAUGHS) "Thank you so much." 687 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,626 He was such a-- oh, my God, so full of himself then. 688 00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:51,083 From then, on it was... 689 00:34:53,459 --> 00:34:55,500 I-- I-- He left. 690 00:34:55,584 --> 00:34:57,083 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 691 00:34:59,083 --> 00:35:01,167 SALLY: He's just pissing away money, 692 00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:02,584 flying all over. 693 00:35:03,709 --> 00:35:05,375 GARY: I was in New York at Tiffany's. 694 00:35:05,459 --> 00:35:08,417 I bought a gold Rolex, cost like 12,000. 695 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:09,918 One time, we went to Paris. 696 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,459 We took like a quarter million over with us. 697 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:13,000 We had to spend it before we came back. 698 00:35:13,083 --> 00:35:14,834 Hundred thousand dollars' worth of Bulgari. 699 00:35:14,918 --> 00:35:17,792 I played a card game with Graham Nash 700 00:35:17,876 --> 00:35:19,375 from Crosby, Stills & Nash. 701 00:35:19,459 --> 00:35:21,209 Thirty million will buy a lot of friends. 702 00:35:22,042 --> 00:35:23,709 (CHUCKLES) You know what I mean? 703 00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:30,626 He just left me right there, took off on an adventure, 704 00:35:30,709 --> 00:35:34,876 met all these people, and I'm home with two kids. 705 00:35:37,584 --> 00:35:39,250 TRAVIS: I worried about him, man, you know? 706 00:35:39,334 --> 00:35:40,959 Because Lucas... 707 00:35:42,292 --> 00:35:43,334 um... 708 00:35:43,417 --> 00:35:45,334 he was real coked up a lot, you know? 709 00:35:46,542 --> 00:35:48,083 I guess I was a little disappointed with Lucas. 710 00:35:48,167 --> 00:35:50,876 But Lucas was also-- Lucas deteriorated, 711 00:35:50,959 --> 00:35:53,083 and I think he kinda died in Florida. 712 00:35:57,250 --> 00:36:00,000 GARY: Well, a few months after I met George, 713 00:36:00,083 --> 00:36:02,083 George called me and I went over to the hangar. 714 00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:06,542 Richard, my copilot, was there. 715 00:36:09,918 --> 00:36:11,834 There was this guy standing at the hangar. 716 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,417 And he called me by my name, my real name. 717 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:22,083 No one knew my real name, I never, never used that. 718 00:36:24,334 --> 00:36:26,334 He said, "Hey, Gary Betzner, huh?" 719 00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:29,292 It was scary as hell. 720 00:36:30,626 --> 00:36:32,876 He knew information about my whole life 721 00:36:32,959 --> 00:36:34,876 that I never given anybody. 722 00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:37,834 Where I came from, what I did, and what kind of citizen I was. 723 00:36:37,918 --> 00:36:41,542 Somehow they must've gotten my prints and run it. 724 00:36:41,626 --> 00:36:45,000 He said I was looking at being in prison for a long time. 725 00:36:45,083 --> 00:36:48,042 When that happened, I confronted him right there. 726 00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,918 I confronted him right there in front of Richard. 727 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,125 "Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa," you know? 728 00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:54,334 What the fuck? 729 00:36:54,417 --> 00:36:56,876 I mean, they showed me credentials. (CHUCKLES) 730 00:36:57,876 --> 00:36:59,542 CIA. 731 00:36:59,626 --> 00:37:01,959 And he said, "You're gonna work for us from now on." 732 00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:03,626 I couldn't very well walk off and say, 733 00:37:03,709 --> 00:37:05,125 "Hey, fuck you," you know what I mean? 734 00:37:05,209 --> 00:37:08,125 Because they already had me. George knew him, 735 00:37:08,209 --> 00:37:10,417 so that's how I got involved in it, I guess. 736 00:37:11,834 --> 00:37:14,542 It was a no-win deal that you had to make. 737 00:37:14,626 --> 00:37:17,918 And that's when I went to George and I was kind of scared. 738 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,584 And he said, "Oh, no, no, no. Everything will be okay." 739 00:37:25,834 --> 00:37:28,292 I said, "Okay, what is it?" 740 00:37:30,334 --> 00:37:32,500 He gave me a long package, a round package 741 00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:33,834 with a map in it. 742 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:36,500 He gave us orders to go to Boca Chica Naval Air Station 743 00:37:36,584 --> 00:37:38,000 in the Keys. 744 00:37:38,083 --> 00:37:39,500 "Someone will meet you there, 745 00:37:39,584 --> 00:37:42,167 and then they'll tell you what you're supposed to do." 746 00:37:48,083 --> 00:37:50,000 You don't go landing on military bases 747 00:37:50,083 --> 00:37:51,626 without authorization. 748 00:37:51,709 --> 00:37:54,083 -I was pretty impressed by that. -(INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT ON LOUDSPEAKER) 749 00:37:54,167 --> 00:37:56,042 GARY: Richard and I went there, and I met the guy. 750 00:37:56,125 --> 00:37:58,167 Loaded the plane with a couple of boxes 751 00:37:58,250 --> 00:37:59,876 and stacked them up front, 752 00:37:59,959 --> 00:38:01,792 put the cargo nets on them and everything. 753 00:38:03,751 --> 00:38:07,584 Most pilots never even gave it a second thought, you know? 754 00:38:07,667 --> 00:38:09,918 But I always checked my load. (CHUCKLES) 755 00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:13,584 I had five ship mines 756 00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:16,292 and probably a hundred grenade launchers. 757 00:38:21,334 --> 00:38:23,292 We took off, and on the way down there, 758 00:38:23,375 --> 00:38:25,042 I took the map out, I looked at it. 759 00:38:25,125 --> 00:38:27,042 It was a harbor in Nicaragua. 760 00:38:28,918 --> 00:38:30,542 REPORTER: The fighting in Nicaragua, 761 00:38:30,626 --> 00:38:32,918 is it counter-revolution, civil war? 762 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,876 The current fighting in Nicaragua, 763 00:38:34,959 --> 00:38:36,834 who's doing it, and who's supporting it? 764 00:38:36,918 --> 00:38:38,751 REAGAN: Soviet military hardware 765 00:38:38,834 --> 00:38:40,375 has made its way to Central America. 766 00:38:40,459 --> 00:38:45,459 Our security is based on being prepared to meet all threats. 767 00:38:48,584 --> 00:38:52,167 GARY: US military trucks came and unloaded everything. 768 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,000 Richard and I just stayed out of the way. 769 00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:57,125 They wanted us to come to the hotel. 770 00:38:57,209 --> 00:39:01,209 I said, "Nah, we'll just stay out here with the airplane, give it some gas." (LAUGHS) 771 00:39:01,292 --> 00:39:02,834 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMMING) 772 00:39:02,918 --> 00:39:05,500 GARY: We didn't say a word to anybody, we just took off. 773 00:39:07,167 --> 00:39:09,751 The next morning, we had breakfast at Denny's. 774 00:39:09,834 --> 00:39:12,751 I parked my car out there and left the keys in the car, 775 00:39:12,834 --> 00:39:14,500 that's what they told me to do. 776 00:39:16,083 --> 00:39:17,834 We finished breakfast and went out there. 777 00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:22,125 Richard and I, we had 300,000 in the trunk. 778 00:39:26,959 --> 00:39:30,751 About a year later, George was having trouble. 779 00:39:30,834 --> 00:39:35,584 And he asked me if I would... help him out. 780 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:38,459 I always loved and trusted George. 781 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:40,834 In that business, it means everything. 782 00:39:42,334 --> 00:39:45,834 He said, "I need you to take this down to Costa Rica. 783 00:39:45,918 --> 00:39:47,751 I don't have anybody else I trust." 784 00:39:47,834 --> 00:39:49,959 I said, "No problem, George," you know. 785 00:39:50,042 --> 00:39:51,542 "You always paid me what you owed me 786 00:39:51,626 --> 00:39:53,417 and never beat me out of a nickel." 787 00:39:55,709 --> 00:39:58,459 The airplane was loaded over in Fort Lauderdale, 788 00:39:58,542 --> 00:40:00,709 sitting right out on the tarmac. 789 00:40:00,792 --> 00:40:04,584 And I looked back, and I had 2,000 pounds of guns and shit on it, right? 790 00:40:08,334 --> 00:40:11,167 I told Richard, I said, "Oh my God, look what we're doing." 791 00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:12,918 We were both real concerned about it. 792 00:40:15,125 --> 00:40:16,834 About what's really going on. 793 00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,500 You have to go down a pretty good ways 794 00:40:21,584 --> 00:40:22,959 to pass Nicaragua 795 00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:25,167 to come across Costa Rican territory. 796 00:40:26,918 --> 00:40:29,834 And God, it's beautiful there, it looks like the Alps. 797 00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:33,417 I mean, really, really beautiful place. 798 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,542 This place was down in the valley, 799 00:40:35,626 --> 00:40:38,042 and it's flat land all the way to the sea. 800 00:40:38,125 --> 00:40:40,292 (AIRPLANE ENGINE RUMBLING) 801 00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:42,125 I come, slide in there, land it, 802 00:40:42,209 --> 00:40:44,667 went down the other lane, pulled off the runway. 803 00:40:44,751 --> 00:40:46,918 Just park it, no motors running or anything. 804 00:40:48,542 --> 00:40:50,292 I just walked up to him, put my hand out, 805 00:40:50,375 --> 00:40:52,500 and he put his hand out. I shook his hand. 806 00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:56,125 That's the first time I met him. 807 00:40:58,542 --> 00:40:59,626 John Hull. 808 00:40:59,709 --> 00:41:01,709 -John Hull. -John Hull. 809 00:41:03,459 --> 00:41:07,250 John Hull was a patriotic American, anti-communist, 810 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:10,000 and was doing anything he could to help out the effort 811 00:41:10,083 --> 00:41:13,918 to keep the communists from coming all up to America. 812 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,918 There is a good deal of confusion tonight 813 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,334 about Soviet ships in Nicaragua and what they may be carrying. 814 00:41:19,417 --> 00:41:21,209 REAGAN: For 20 years, the Soviet Union 815 00:41:21,292 --> 00:41:24,000 has been accumulating enormous military might. 816 00:41:24,083 --> 00:41:26,334 The duty to protect and strengthen the peace 817 00:41:26,417 --> 00:41:28,375 to make America strong again. 818 00:41:29,792 --> 00:41:31,667 GARY: When I was with John Hull, 819 00:41:31,751 --> 00:41:33,292 I said, "You need help unloading these?" 820 00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:36,042 He said, "No, I'll take care of it." Unload the guns and stuff. 821 00:41:36,125 --> 00:41:38,667 You know, like M16s and grenade launchers, 822 00:41:38,751 --> 00:41:40,667 all kinds of military equipment. 823 00:41:40,751 --> 00:41:43,667 MODERATOR: The last few months, it has seemed more and more 824 00:41:43,751 --> 00:41:45,667 that your policies in Central America 825 00:41:45,751 --> 00:41:47,167 were beginning to work. 826 00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:49,167 Yet just at this moment, we are confronted 827 00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:53,292 with the extraordinary story of a CIA guerrilla manual 828 00:41:53,375 --> 00:41:56,709 for the anti-Sandinista Contras, whom we are backing, 829 00:41:56,792 --> 00:41:59,876 which advocates assassinations of Sandinistas. 830 00:41:59,959 --> 00:42:04,125 Is this not, in effect, our own state-supported terrorism? 831 00:42:05,042 --> 00:42:06,876 No, and I'm glad you asked that question, 832 00:42:06,959 --> 00:42:08,834 because I know it's on many people's minds. 833 00:42:10,209 --> 00:42:12,626 We're not in the habit of assigning guilt 834 00:42:12,709 --> 00:42:15,250 before there has been proper evidence produced 835 00:42:15,334 --> 00:42:17,500 and proof of that guilt. 836 00:42:17,584 --> 00:42:21,167 Another truck came up and put the cocaine in duffel bags on the plane. 837 00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:22,918 Secured the load and took off. 838 00:42:24,292 --> 00:42:27,542 I had a transponder code I turned on, 839 00:42:27,626 --> 00:42:29,417 coming back into the United States. 840 00:42:29,918 --> 00:42:31,000 INTERVIEWER: 841 00:42:36,709 --> 00:42:39,459 GARY: I landed at Opa Locka Airport in Miami. 842 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:46,584 In broad daylight, I taxied up to Aviation Activities 843 00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:48,709 with 500 kilos of cocaine. 844 00:42:48,792 --> 00:42:50,375 Wasn't my cocaine. 845 00:42:50,459 --> 00:42:52,334 Wasn't George's cocaine. (CHUCKLES) 846 00:42:52,417 --> 00:42:54,542 I saw the people standing around 847 00:42:54,626 --> 00:42:58,292 when I pulled up the plane, you know, the agents, cops. 848 00:42:58,375 --> 00:42:59,918 Never looked at me or said a word, 849 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,834 they just kinda turned their back. 850 00:43:01,918 --> 00:43:04,417 When I got out of the airplane, I took 20 kilos with me 851 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,709 and put it in my Honda and drove off. 852 00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:08,792 (CHUCKLES) 853 00:43:12,876 --> 00:43:16,334 SALLY: After the summer when we went to Florida, 854 00:43:17,375 --> 00:43:18,375 it... 855 00:43:19,792 --> 00:43:22,459 just never was the same after that. 856 00:43:24,459 --> 00:43:27,626 He lived a life that he wanted to. 857 00:43:28,375 --> 00:43:30,459 A Fast and Furious of the '80s. 858 00:43:32,542 --> 00:43:35,000 And I had had enough. 859 00:43:35,083 --> 00:43:38,375 I left him. I just... I'm going, "I can't do this." 860 00:43:39,792 --> 00:43:41,792 I was in love, he was the love of my life, 861 00:43:41,876 --> 00:43:44,876 still is the love of my life, I just can't live with him. 862 00:43:44,959 --> 00:43:46,459 (LAUGHS) 863 00:43:46,542 --> 00:43:50,792 He's too crazy, even for me. You know, after a person-- 864 00:43:50,876 --> 00:43:54,250 He's got about seven personalities. 865 00:43:56,250 --> 00:43:59,667 Two or three who are fantastic, and the rest of 'em is like 866 00:43:59,751 --> 00:44:02,000 you really don't want to spend much time with. 867 00:44:03,083 --> 00:44:04,709 He'd be walking that way, talking, 868 00:44:04,792 --> 00:44:07,250 and you can tell before he turns around 869 00:44:07,334 --> 00:44:09,083 that he's switched. 870 00:44:10,375 --> 00:44:11,959 Finally, I just surrendered. 871 00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:17,667 That was our... (SIGHS) ...fate. 872 00:44:18,709 --> 00:44:20,334 INTERVIEWER: 873 00:44:20,417 --> 00:44:22,375 No, I believe in eventuality. 874 00:44:22,459 --> 00:44:24,834 Dad taught me this. Eventuality is when 875 00:44:24,918 --> 00:44:26,667 eventually, something's gonna happen. 876 00:44:26,751 --> 00:44:28,250 If you take the same route to work every day, 877 00:44:28,334 --> 00:44:30,542 you're more than likely to get hit by a bolt of lightning 878 00:44:30,626 --> 00:44:31,959 or something. Eventuality happens. 879 00:44:32,042 --> 00:44:33,334 When life looks like easy street, 880 00:44:33,417 --> 00:44:34,792 there's danger at your door. 881 00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:39,751 (CAR ENGINE RUMBLING) 882 00:44:39,834 --> 00:44:42,751 GARY: Richard and I, we were down in Santa Marta, 883 00:44:42,834 --> 00:44:44,709 in Colombia, to pick up a load. 884 00:44:48,751 --> 00:44:50,792 Colombian Cartel from Santa Marta. 885 00:44:50,876 --> 00:44:54,709 He got his cocaine from Pablo, and Pablo fronted to him. 886 00:44:56,876 --> 00:44:58,709 We were waiting for the load to arrive, 887 00:44:58,792 --> 00:44:59,959 to load the plane. 888 00:45:01,209 --> 00:45:04,042 And he had an atrium, you know, full of tropical flowers, 889 00:45:04,125 --> 00:45:05,417 his wife did. 890 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,250 Richard was, you know, in the garden with her and... 891 00:45:09,959 --> 00:45:12,709 And I guess employees said that... 892 00:45:12,792 --> 00:45:14,959 Richard was flirting with his wife. 893 00:45:15,042 --> 00:45:17,250 Being a big badass leader... 894 00:45:18,042 --> 00:45:19,209 (GUN COCKING) 895 00:45:19,292 --> 00:45:20,751 (GUNSHOT) 896 00:45:23,375 --> 00:45:25,751 GARY: Pulled his .45 out and shot him in the heart. 897 00:45:28,375 --> 00:45:29,751 He was standing right beside me. 898 00:45:31,125 --> 00:45:35,083 (SNIFFLES, CLICKS TONGUE) Turned the gun on me, too. 899 00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,167 And I just looked over there and put my hand out 900 00:45:37,250 --> 00:45:38,584 and like pushed the gun out of the way 901 00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:41,584 and I said, "Hey, man, what the fuck? 902 00:45:41,667 --> 00:45:43,083 What'd you do that for?" 903 00:45:43,167 --> 00:45:44,876 I got PTSD from that. 904 00:45:46,083 --> 00:45:47,167 I'll tell you that. 905 00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:48,918 You know, I said, "He's a friend of mine." 906 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,375 I said, "Give him a good burial, Christian burial. 907 00:45:51,459 --> 00:45:54,459 Take care of everything. Promise me you'll do that. 908 00:45:54,542 --> 00:45:56,751 And this is the end of it. I'm gone." 909 00:45:58,334 --> 00:46:00,500 So I stepped over him and worked my way around 910 00:46:00,584 --> 00:46:02,000 and got in the plane took off. 911 00:46:02,083 --> 00:46:04,751 (AIRPLANE ENGINE HUMMING) 912 00:46:08,709 --> 00:46:12,584 GARY: I cried all the way home. I couldn't contain myself. 913 00:46:14,918 --> 00:46:15,918 You know, I... 914 00:46:18,042 --> 00:46:21,209 I-- I felt responsible in some ways. 915 00:46:22,375 --> 00:46:25,042 And it was a big blow. 916 00:46:26,250 --> 00:46:30,792 You know? Everybody thinks Richard drowned in a crash. 917 00:46:30,876 --> 00:46:34,500 And his family, his son, his daughter or whatever, 918 00:46:34,584 --> 00:46:38,000 and his wife, they never knew the truth. 919 00:46:41,626 --> 00:46:43,709 Seeing somebody get killed, that was probably... 920 00:46:44,918 --> 00:46:47,209 the most devastating... 921 00:46:47,292 --> 00:46:50,334 of anything that ever happened to me in my life, you know? 922 00:46:51,125 --> 00:46:52,500 That's when I decided to quit. 923 00:46:56,417 --> 00:46:58,667 Reorient and reevaluate. 924 00:47:00,042 --> 00:47:01,751 That's what I've learned to do in my life, 925 00:47:01,834 --> 00:47:03,542 is just keep going forward. 926 00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:08,459 I had 300 kilos of cocaine in the back of my plane. 927 00:47:08,542 --> 00:47:12,000 And if that cocaine had just belonged to this drug dealer, 928 00:47:12,083 --> 00:47:13,959 I would have kept his shit. 929 00:47:14,042 --> 00:47:16,000 But it belonged to Pablo. 930 00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:17,876 I said, "Now I've gotta go do this job." 931 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,209 This last thing. 932 00:47:26,417 --> 00:47:27,876 I landed in Lake City. 933 00:47:31,709 --> 00:47:34,375 Been out for two days, no sleep. 934 00:47:35,834 --> 00:47:38,667 My people were there to offload the coke. 935 00:47:39,542 --> 00:47:41,500 I put the coke in the car, 936 00:47:41,584 --> 00:47:43,542 and I couldn't get it all in there, 937 00:47:43,626 --> 00:47:45,709 and so they left to go to the hotel. 938 00:47:45,792 --> 00:47:48,834 And I saw down the highway, they got pulled over. 939 00:47:48,918 --> 00:47:50,959 (POLICE SIREN WAILING) 940 00:47:51,834 --> 00:47:53,209 GARY: DEA. 941 00:47:53,292 --> 00:47:54,709 Cops jumped out and had machine guns 942 00:47:54,792 --> 00:47:55,918 and stuff went everywhere. 943 00:47:58,209 --> 00:47:59,500 So I went across the road. 944 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,667 I went by this clothesline, so I got me a shirt. 945 00:48:04,751 --> 00:48:06,834 I found a pickup truck that had the keys in it. 946 00:48:08,542 --> 00:48:09,626 And I drove off. 947 00:48:11,292 --> 00:48:13,459 Went down to the hotel and got a room. 948 00:48:13,542 --> 00:48:16,042 Hadn't been in there, like, 20 minutes or so, 949 00:48:16,125 --> 00:48:19,792 -and I heard something outside. -(CAR PULLING UP) 950 00:48:19,876 --> 00:48:22,209 -(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER) -(KNOCKING ON DOOR) 951 00:48:24,626 --> 00:48:25,834 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 952 00:48:25,918 --> 00:48:27,584 GARY: Then this voice came over... 953 00:48:29,417 --> 00:48:31,167 and called out my name. 954 00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:34,042 Three or four different names, and then he said my real name. 955 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:38,959 I thought I could get out of anything, 956 00:48:39,042 --> 00:48:40,709 because at this time my ego was so big, 957 00:48:40,792 --> 00:48:43,751 and I was a fugitive, and I had five different IDs. 958 00:48:43,834 --> 00:48:45,667 I had outwitted the cops on every level 959 00:48:45,751 --> 00:48:48,500 and flown under their noses and made millions of dollars. 960 00:48:48,584 --> 00:48:50,167 And I had everything going. 961 00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:54,042 But it's impossible to do what I did and get away with it 962 00:48:54,125 --> 00:48:57,876 because the eventuality factor is so intense. 963 00:49:00,667 --> 00:49:02,626 SARA LEE: I remember going into the grocery store, 964 00:49:02,709 --> 00:49:04,918 and I looked over at the newspaper stand. 965 00:49:05,918 --> 00:49:07,083 And it said... 966 00:49:10,083 --> 00:49:13,209 It said, um, "Gary Betzner found in Miami." 967 00:49:18,459 --> 00:49:19,584 Right there, you know? 968 00:49:19,667 --> 00:49:21,459 And I looked at my mom and was like, "Mom!" 969 00:49:21,542 --> 00:49:22,834 I was in Hazen, 970 00:49:23,792 --> 00:49:26,334 but I saw it happening 971 00:49:26,417 --> 00:49:30,834 in my psychic abilities or whatever. 972 00:49:30,918 --> 00:49:34,459 He-- We are so connected 973 00:49:34,542 --> 00:49:38,042 with our communication, our souls. 974 00:49:38,125 --> 00:49:41,083 I felt the terror, I felt the, "Oh my God, 975 00:49:41,167 --> 00:49:42,709 this isn't happening." 976 00:49:42,792 --> 00:49:46,334 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING) 977 00:49:46,417 --> 00:49:49,500 REPORTER: It's a story of international drug smuggling and gun running. 978 00:49:49,584 --> 00:49:51,209 Forty-five-year-old Gary Betzner 979 00:49:51,292 --> 00:49:53,334 is now in prison in Miami, Florida. 980 00:49:53,417 --> 00:49:55,792 TRAVIS: I was telling all of them my dad was dead. 981 00:49:55,876 --> 00:49:58,167 But then one day he was on the news. 982 00:49:58,250 --> 00:50:00,626 I was like, "Oh, he's alive, he's alive!" (LAUGHS) 983 00:50:00,709 --> 00:50:03,167 You know, literally I was good at it. 984 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,709 I never cracked. 985 00:50:04,792 --> 00:50:06,167 His dad was on television. 986 00:50:07,834 --> 00:50:08,876 INTERVIEWER: Doing what? 987 00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:12,876 Getting arrested. But very much alive. 988 00:50:14,792 --> 00:50:16,751 REPORTER: The one thing that everyone remembers 989 00:50:16,834 --> 00:50:19,250 about Gary Betzner is the night he disappeared. 990 00:50:19,334 --> 00:50:21,584 Reports from September of 1977 991 00:50:21,667 --> 00:50:24,375 say he committed suicide. That report was treated 992 00:50:24,459 --> 00:50:26,250 with some skepticism at the time, 993 00:50:26,334 --> 00:50:29,500 but was considered true for some ten years. 994 00:50:29,584 --> 00:50:32,375 TRUDY JOHNSON: That was all the talk at the coffee shop and everywhere. 995 00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:35,209 And it was hard to believe that it was somebody you knew. 996 00:50:35,792 --> 00:50:37,751 BURKE SIMS: 997 00:50:42,042 --> 00:50:45,167 MIKE GRADY: People very quickly lost respect for her. 998 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,876 SALLY: Get over there and let me take a picture of you. 999 00:50:50,042 --> 00:50:51,292 SARA LEE: Oh, just mockery. 1000 00:50:51,375 --> 00:50:54,083 I got pulled over once by the police department. 1001 00:50:54,167 --> 00:50:56,334 And, um... they were like... 1002 00:50:56,417 --> 00:50:59,375 one of them said, "Why don't you call your dad?" and started laughing. 1003 00:50:59,459 --> 00:51:02,584 (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING) 1004 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,792 GARY: Feeling of vulnerability really gets intense 1005 00:51:06,876 --> 00:51:10,375 when they put the handcuffs on you. 1006 00:51:10,459 --> 00:51:13,375 There's no getting away. It's over with. 1007 00:51:14,125 --> 00:51:16,876 (INDISTINCT VOICES ECHOING) 1008 00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:20,083 GARY: I felt despondent. 1009 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,459 I felt helpless, I felt trapped. 1010 00:51:27,542 --> 00:51:29,834 But then I started putting things together. 1011 00:51:31,709 --> 00:51:33,250 REPORTER 1: In Nicaragua tonight, 1012 00:51:33,334 --> 00:51:35,918 the Sandinista government is claiming the ports there are under siege. 1013 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,417 REPORTER 2: Growing tension this morning 1014 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,250 between Nicaragua and the United States 1015 00:51:39,334 --> 00:51:42,125 over charges that the CIA-backed rebels 1016 00:51:42,209 --> 00:51:44,792 are mining Nicaraguan harbors. 1017 00:51:44,876 --> 00:51:47,292 I was the one that carried the ship mines down 1018 00:51:47,375 --> 00:51:49,125 that they put in the harbor in Nicaragua. 1019 00:51:51,876 --> 00:51:53,751 (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING) 1020 00:51:55,375 --> 00:51:56,918 (GUNSHOTS) 1021 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000 GARY: I took the guns to Costa Rica. 1022 00:52:02,626 --> 00:52:04,292 -(GUNSHOTS) -(EXPLOSION) 1023 00:52:04,375 --> 00:52:06,334 Put the cocaine on, and I came back. 1024 00:52:07,334 --> 00:52:09,709 And the military's running everything. 1025 00:52:09,792 --> 00:52:12,667 REAGAN: We have a gentleman down in Nicaragua 1026 00:52:12,751 --> 00:52:15,667 who is on contract to the CIA 1027 00:52:15,751 --> 00:52:20,292 advising, supposedly on military tactics, the Contras. 1028 00:52:20,375 --> 00:52:22,792 Mr. President, you're implying then 1029 00:52:22,876 --> 00:52:26,584 that the CIA in Nicaragua is directing the Contras there. 1030 00:52:27,751 --> 00:52:30,334 I'm afraid I misspoke when I said 1031 00:52:30,417 --> 00:52:31,834 a CIA head in Nicaragua. 1032 00:52:31,918 --> 00:52:34,083 There's not someone there directing all of this. 1033 00:52:38,417 --> 00:52:39,584 GARY: I had no idea... 1034 00:52:40,542 --> 00:52:42,375 how big this was or how high it went. 1035 00:52:42,459 --> 00:52:44,167 However, I did know... 1036 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:47,167 that I was privy to quite a bit of information. 1037 00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:51,918 I was worth something. 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