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♪ ("I'LL GET OVER YOU"
BY CRYSTAL GALE PLAYING) ♪
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RADIO ANNOUNCER:
KAAY, proud to be the voice
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and choice of Arkansas.
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♪ One thing 'bout
This heart of mine ♪
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(CAR ENGINE REVVING)
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♪ All my hurt's
Gonna mend in time ♪
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-♪ It don't leave
No scars behind ♪
-(TURN SIGNAL CLICKING)
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♪ I'll get over you ♪
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CRAIG HODGES:
I'll tell you this.
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The story of Gary Betzner
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is proof that truth
is stranger than fiction.
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And it could only
have happened in America.
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(SONG DISTORTS, FADES)
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(PLANE ENGINE REVVING)
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SALLY BETZNER:
Gary was a crop duster.
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He was just
a natural-born pilot.
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♪ (UNSETTLED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY: After I married him,I would go out to the hangar
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every afternoon
and watch Gary fly.
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(CROWD CHEERING, SHOUTING)
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SALLY: And I'd just sitand watch until I see that one
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that flies like a butterfly.
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-(ENGINE REVVING)
-♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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PAUL: He is renowned around here
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for what he could do
with a plane.
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CRAIG: The headof the TOPGUN program
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described him
as being the best pilot
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that he had ever known.
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It's a special kind
of person that crop dusts,
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it's a special kind of wild man.
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LARRY CAZZAR:
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DONNIE:
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SALLY: He would fly overthe farmers on the field
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and drop cold beer
to ‘em. (LAUGHS)
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-(METAL RATTLING)
-(PLANE THUDS)
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SALLY: Gary had 11 plane crashes
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in his life, and walked away
from every one of them,
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not a scratch.
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That's my dad.
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Evil Knievel and my dad,
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if they got
into a little pissing contest,
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it wouldn't be cool.
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SARA LEE MATTHEWS:
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CRAIG:
It's one of those tall tales,
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it's a Southern tale, and so
a lot of people knew about it.
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MIKE GRADY: He just got a littlebraver and a little braver.
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Sooner or later it's gonna
come around and bite you.
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BRIAN BARGER: I don't thinkthat you could make the case
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that Gary Betzner
is a hero in this story.
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I don't think
Gary Betzner had a clue
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of what he was tripping into...
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one of the biggest
political scandals
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of his lifetime.
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SALLY: That day,we went to the dairy bar.
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Travis was not interested
in going, but Sara Lee was,
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so Travis stayed home with Mom.
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And we get in his car,
and we're driving out
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to the country.
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And we were in this El Camino.
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Gary was driving.
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♪ ("I'LL GET OVER YOU"
BY CRYSTAL GAYLE PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY: ...and he wasin a talkative mood.
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We went the back way
through Highway 70
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and up through Biscoe...
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to the bridge in Des Arc.
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I know that we pulled up
onto a bridge in Des Arc.
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SALLY: And he stops the carin the middle of the bridge.
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The car had broken down.
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The hood was up.
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SALLY: All of a sudden...
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING,
CONCLUDES) ♪
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-(HEAVY BREATHING)
-(WATER SPLASHES)
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(CROWS CAWING)
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SALLY:
...he jumped off the bridge.
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I remember hearing
this loud clap sound.
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(SMACKS HANDS)
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(DISTANT THUNDER RUMBLING)
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SALLY: And all of a sudden,it was dark.
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and I was in a trance,
pretty much,
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-for hours, it seems like.
-♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY: I was hysterical.
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Finally a car pulled up,
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and I don't know
who picked me up...
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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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SALLY: ...but he took me to thePrairie County Sheriff's Office.
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I cried, I was on my knees,
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I was just like,
"What did you do?"
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♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
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We had that one percent
of a perfect life.
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We had everything.
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It just doesn't make sense.
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Why?
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-(PLANE ENGINE REVVING)
-♪ ("THE INVISIBLE PILOT"
THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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MATT LEE: All right, Travis,walk into frame
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and then just kinda walk
and stop in front of me.
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When I look up at ya, then stop.
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♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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CRAIG: Say your name,Travis Leander...
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MATT LEE: No,don't say anything,
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just... stop right there.
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TRAVIS: I've always
dealt with the fact my--
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Of what happened with my dad,
what happened with my family.
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♪ (SINISTER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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The more I've been
talking about this,
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I can see the--
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Trace back the, kind of,
string theory to it, you know?
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We thought for certain
there was no way that--
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TRAVIS: Well, that's
the story of my whole life,
with my whole family.
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CRAIG: Would you say
that you had
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a non-traditional lifestyle?
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We talked
about this the other day.
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I had a diversified lifestyle.
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You're a product
of what you experience.
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You can unlearn
what you've learned
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when you realize that
a lot of things you've learned
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were because you were
at the mercy of externals,
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you were at the mercy
of the situations you were in.
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MATT LEE: Travis, Take two.
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TRAVIS: I have a good memoryof the past, but...
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I don't live there, man.
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But I do, I do. If you--
People say,
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"You live in the past." Yeah,
you do, 'cause you were there.
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(SCOFFS) You are living there.
You're, if you go to the past,
you're living there.
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CRAIG: So, you want to startwith your name?
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Okay, my name
is Sara Lee Matthews.
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Right? Or do I say Betzner?
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Um, my name is
Sara Lee Betzner-Matthews...
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Carlyle-Harmony. (CHUCKLES)
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I don't know.
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I always write
"Sara Lee, question mark."
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(RYTHMIC TICKING)
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SARA LEE: I'm in a lotof pictures and I look happy.
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It was just normal, I mean...
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What people call normal.
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MATT LEE:
To jump ahead a little bit,tell me about the bridge.
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P.A.: Slate in.
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Sally interview, take one.
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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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SALLY: It is September,you've got these thunderstorms
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that were clapping,
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had balls of lightning all over.
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An outward feeling
of what was going on in me
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was in the sky around.
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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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And I'm just like, freaking out.
I was... vicious, it was like,
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it was everybody else's fault.
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♪ (UNNERVING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY: So they took meto the psychological ward.
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(INDISTINCT HOSPITAL PA CHATTER)
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Interviewed me for I don't know
how long, talked to me.
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-(ELECTRICITY BUZZING)
-SALLY: Make sureI wasn't suicidal.
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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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SALLY: And finally I realizedthat they're not gonna let me go
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until I calmed down.
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I said, "All I want
to do is see the kids.
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Just take me home,
let me be with the kids."
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(FILM ROLLING)
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TRAVIS: When you'refive years old, just...
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Time's different.
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You know, like, you think
the world is so huge,
and you're like this tall.
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It was dark. My mom came in
and kneeled down and took us
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and sat us and were looked
at seriously.
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She just said,
“I gotta tell y'all something.”
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SALLY: I gave him a big hugand cried and said,
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“Something horrible has happened
and your dad's... gone.”
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♪ (FORLORN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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TRAVIS: I didn't know he jumped.I didn't know he jumped
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off the bridge. I just know
he's dead. She said he was dead.
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I just didn't get it.
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I didn't really
understand that then.
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And just trust us
that it's all gonna be okay.
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TRAVIS: I remember just crying'cause she was crying.
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You're not supposed
to let little kids see you cry,
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or get emotional.
It fucks with them.
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And Sara Lee got upset,
'cause she was upset.
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SARA LEE: Of all his kids,I'm the closest one like him.
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There's a lot of my memories
that get changed, you know,
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when I talk
about him, but, um...
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(SIGHS)
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Men in my life don't last long.
(CHUCKLING)
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Um...
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Well, they die young.
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TRAVIS: I remember itbeing kind of--It being quiet for a while.
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And Mom went to therapy.
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And she was fucked up about it.
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It was real depressing.
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Like, I think it was real,
"Oh..." You know,
the lights were down,
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you know, "Oh..." It was like,
"Oh..." It was like that.
It was kinda like...
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we just low key-- Was--
It was a real shut down time,
kinda, like it should have been
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if someone dies like that,
traumatically. (INHALES)
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KATV REPORTER: Gary Betznergrew up in Arkansas,
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the small towns of Hazen,
Des Arc, and Biscoe.
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He committed suicide
by jumping off this bridge
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overlooking the White River.
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-(WIND HOWLING)
-(SIREN WAILING)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER RADIO)
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I started dragging
the river the next morning.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER RADIO)
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-MIKE: We worked hard at it.
-(ENGINE REVVING)
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MIKE: We hada Sheriff's Reserve, and...
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(INHALES) ...that's one
of the things they did,
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and they were good at it.
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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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MIKE: In a little town,there's rumors all the time.
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I don't know what happened,
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what made him do that,
but I don't approve of...
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what he did.
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Well, I don't think he deserves
to have a movie made about him.
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(CROWS CAWING)
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(COFFEE POURING)
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So, I don't know
if his business got in trouble,
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'cause, you know,
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when you make a lot of money,
you spend a lot of money.
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'Course, those
airplanes cost money.
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ROBIN CRAFT: I know it wasa shock, but maybeit wasn't inexplicable.
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People were asking themselves
whether it was money,
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what he had gotten involved in,
whether he was involved in
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some kind of
large crime organization.
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Dixie Mafia was something
that everybody knew about.
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NEWSCASTER: Murder,drug dealing, stolen cars,
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hijacking gasoline
from cross-country pipelines.
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All of these are crimes
that law enforcement officials
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have associated with
the so-called "Dixie Mafia."
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ROBIN: I see this as a storyof radical rebelliousness.
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Trying so hard to escape,
not just a physical small town,
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but the small town
of their mind.
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♪ (BLEAK FOLK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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TRAVIS: Around here, you know,
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we're right in the middle
of the Bible Belt.
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Oh, conservative,
seriously conservative.
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There's a few of us
that escaped from Hazen,
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and there's a few that stayed
there, and God love 'em,
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they just-- You know,
it's a wonderful world for them.
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RANDY WRIGHT:
Arkansas was just--I mean, it was rural America,
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(INHALING) ...you know, pickupsrunning down the gravel roads,
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and, you know, uh, cow tipping.
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BILL CLINTON: You know,it's gotten to where
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an individual farmer can't make
a living on the land anymore.
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This country's lost 400,000
farms in the last eight years.
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NARRATOR: Bill Clintonfor Arkansas.
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SALLY: Hazen never changes.
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Still today,
they all have linear thoughts.
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You had a way that you were
supposed to behave.
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And it wasn't a big town.
I mean, a town of 1400.
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-(CROWD CHEERING)
-SALLY: But when I met Gary,
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I knew it was
my ticket out of Hazen.
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INTERVIEWER: Tell methe first time you met Gary.
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Something about the...
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Oh, wow that is... that...
(CHUCKLES)
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...that still, today, uh...
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It's just wild.
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-♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(ROCKET FUEL IGNITING)
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SALLY: My brother and his wifehad a moon party.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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SALLY: It was the daythat they were gonna
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land on the moon,
and had the cameras up.
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MISSION CONTROL: Houston,you are go for landing. Over.
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BUZZ ALDRIN: Roger. Understand.Go for landing, 3,000 feet.
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MISSION CONTROL:
You're looking great.
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(INDISTINCT NEWSCASTS
IN MANDARIN)
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(INDISTINCT NEWSCASTS
IN FRENCH)
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(INDISTINCT NEWSCASTS
ON TV)
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-SALLY: Doorbell rings.
-(DOORBELL RINGING)
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MISSION CONTROL: Sixty seconds.
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Still looking very good.
You're go.
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SALLY: I go to the front door...
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MISSION CONTROL:
Roger, 1201 alarm.
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-NEIL ARMSTRONG: 1201 alarm.
-(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)
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♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY:
...and everything stopped.
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It was like...
(INHALES, EXHALES)
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There was something
in the force, you know? (LAUGHS)
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It's just wild.
It was a connection
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from another dimension
as far as I know.
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And it was like this...
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Boom! In the universe,
it just shook.
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ARMSTRONG: Houston--Tranquility Base here,
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-the eagle has landed.
-(CROWD CHEERING)
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MISSION CONTROL:
Copy on the ground,
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you got a bunch of guys
about to turn blue,
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we're breathing again,
thanks a lot.
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SALLY: It just changed my life.I'm going, "Who in the world..."
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And when I looked in his eyes...
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MISSION CONTROL: Okay, Neil,we can see you coming downthe ladder now.
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SALLY: But then there wasjust a little problem.
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Gary arrived with his wife...
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who was seven months pregnant.
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I was his first wife.
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And, uh, we were married
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about three--
close to three years.
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He was a very much
larger-than-life figure.
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I mean,
he was very instantaneous
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and very dramatic,
always very dramatic.
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His favorite thing
was flying under bridges and...
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trying to put the wheels
on the water without crashing.
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One day, his personality
would be very even,
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the next day, he would,
like, ground-loop an airplane.
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We were watching
the moon landing,
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and I was very pregnant.
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Little did I know that,
you know,
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six months later...
what would happen.
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SALLY:
After his daughter was born,
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Gary immediately
divorced Claudia.
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And he was, you know, single.
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And, you know, still today,
people will say
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that I dated him while
he was married. (CHUCKLES)
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They just want to believe
the worst of you. (LAUGHS)
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When I married him,
it was a lifelong thing,
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“You're my soulmate,
I trust you with my life.”
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And I did.
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♪ (ENIGMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SALLY: But, yeah, Gary,
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I was really naïve
when I met Gary.
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(SEAGULLS SQUAWKING)
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♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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POLLY BETZNER: I thoughtthat this was really...
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I don't know, it was
the only thing I had, you know?
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He just wanted
to, like, give me something
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that... was like,
from his travels, you know?
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Yes, so I'm Polly Betzner.
I kept my dad's last name.
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Gary married my mom, Claudia.
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CLAUDIA: And there's
bringing you home
from the hospital.
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POLLY: He was like a heroto me as a little kid,
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because he was
Disneyland Dad, you know?
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He was, “Let me take you
to the really beautiful home
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we have in Hazen, Arkansas,
and get in the pool.”
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And when he would come around,
he'd bring presents.
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He was my dad. But I didn't get
to see him that much,
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'cause my mom lived in Memphis
and he was in Arkansas.
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But when it happened,
when the whole thing happened,
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I mean, I was six.
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It was my birthday.
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I remember our pastor came in,
he had, like, a suit on.
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“Mom, why does he have
a suit on? Today's not Sunday,
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"and it's not a funeral,
it's not a wedding."
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I was like, "Is he dressed up
'cause it's my birthday?"
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And...
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I'm sorry. (CHUCKLES) So...
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(EXHALES)
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(LIPS SMACKING) So...
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(LIPS SMACKING)
I sat on the sofa...
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(BREATHES SHAKILY) ...and...
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he sat down, he had, like,
a Bible in his hand,
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'cause he was a good old
Baptist pastor,
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and he was like...
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“Sweetheart, I have to tell you
something about your dad.”
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I was like, “Okay, what?
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Did my dad send me a present,
like, for my birthday?”
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He was like,
“Well, he jumped off a bridge,
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and he drowned.”
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And, I was like...
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“Well, why?”
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I get this
hysterical call from Sally,
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that, "Gary's jumped off
a bridge, he's killed himself."
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I just hit the floor,
I could not believe it.
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I don't know,
I never understood what...
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Why he jumped off the bridge.
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I have my own ideas about it,
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but how accurate that is,
I don't know.
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SALLY: We had a lot of tragedyin a short period of time.
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The Wednesday
before Thanksgiving,
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Gary's mother died
in a freak automobile accident.
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Fred was
Gary's youngest brother.
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He dove off a bridge
and became a quadriplegic.
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He didn't live much longer.
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My dad died in June.
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And then my brother
had his plane crash...
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on November the 4th.
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So, we had four
major events in our lives
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within that short period.
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LARRY: There was a lotof tragedy that happenedalong that time.
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So, you know, the glue
of the family disappeared.
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I know it was really
hard for him.
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But you know, he and I weren't
very emotionally connected
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at that time with each other.
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I don't know where it put him.
I know where it put me,
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but I don't know
where it put him.
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(VINTAGE CAMERA ROLLING)
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LARRY: You know,I think all of this started back
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with our real father.
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He was a very jealous
and a very angry man.
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SALLY: His dad was beatinghis mother on Christmas day.
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He was real mean to Gary.
He would beat him.
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They'd given Gary a bat
for Christmas, and Gary took it,
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and whaled him on it,
and the guy turned on him,
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and Gary ran under
and hid under the porch.
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All day long on Christmas day.
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He hid under the house.
Tack, our father,
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kept asking him to come out,
asking him to come out.
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He wouldn't do it.
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After many hours, he got hungry,
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and he brought him some food,
said, “You come out,
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"I won't do anything to you."
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So he came out,
and Tack got him,
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and grabbed him, and just
beat the daylights out of him.
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I think that incident
had a lot to do with Gary,
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he became really...
(INHALES) ...kind of defiant.
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♪ (SINISTER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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And things changed
when I appeared.
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Man, that's for sure, you know?
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I was born Travis Wayne Betzner.
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When he died, I changed it
to Travis Leander Matthews,
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'cause I never liked
the name “Wayne”
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and I never liked “Betzner.”
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Well, my parents conceived me
in a hangar, they said.
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And that place used
to scare the shit out of me
when I was kid. Like...
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these things
are big old airplanes.
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(ENGINE REVVING)
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(IMITATES PLANE ENGINE)
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You know, fuck that, you know?
And it freaked me out
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for a long time.
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So, he died.
My mom said he was dead.
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Didn't-- Couldn't ever
find his body.
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(ENGINE REVVING)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER RADIO)
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MIKE: I've been draggingthat river for ten, 12 years,
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and I've never failed
to get one out yet.
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TRAVIS:
They couldn't find his body.
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It fucked us up.
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Everyone was like “Go to sleep""
and I wouldn't sleep,
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I was like, reading
H.P. Lovecraft and shit.
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I would always be
making up stories...
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like the Giplycutes and...
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weird creatures,
like Gollywomps and shit.
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There's my dad.
(CHUCKLES, IMITATES MONSTER)
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My dad's
the White River monster.
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The White River?
That's where dad jumped in,
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the White River.
And they get big over 30 years.
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They're like, you know,
eventually, they get so big,
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it has to live
under the bridge there.
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Which creeped me out,
it was a place
that creeped me out.
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I like monsters,
Like, I was a monster kid, man.
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00:24:05,876 --> 00:24:08,250
I remember I saw Godzilla
for the first time.
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(ROARS)
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TRAVIS: And he's smashingthe town. He was justawesome, you know?
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(CHUCKLES)
I just loved it. Godzilla!
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00:24:14,709 --> 00:24:17,083
-(GROWLS)
-TRAVIS: You know, it was like--That was it.
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00:24:17,167 --> 00:24:18,334
(GROWLS)
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00:24:18,417 --> 00:24:21,083
My dad promised me
he would get me this Godzilla.
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00:24:21,167 --> 00:24:23,959
It was a specific Godzilla
I'm talking about, in the ‘70s.
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KID: Look, it's Godzilla!
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NARRATOR: Is he friend or foe?
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-You know, it was a weird head.
-PASSENGER: Yeah.
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It was like this big,
with wheels on the feet.
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00:24:30,959 --> 00:24:32,417
Yeah, that's all I wanted, man.
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PASSENGER:
But it didn't work out that way.
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♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
448
00:24:42,584 --> 00:24:44,667
I can remember
the last time I saw him
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before he killed himself.
I was five.
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My mom woke me up
at, like, 3:00 in the morning
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and had, like,
little pink curlers in her hair,
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and had, like,
the pink nightgown on.
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We drove to the airport,
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and he pulled up
in a jet airplane.
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00:25:03,459 --> 00:25:06,584
He was different.
Like, very strange.
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That's not my dad.
I could see from the car,
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like, he had a watch,
like, a long fur coat,
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like, a big Afro curly thing
from the '70s.
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00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,626
I just like, waved at him like,
“Hi, Dad!” Like, my mom said,
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"Don't you get out of the car."
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There was a looming,
weird feeling.
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And he gave my mom a check,
she got in the car,
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00:25:30,042 --> 00:25:31,542
I think it was 3500 dollars.
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She was like,
"We should be fine for a while."
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That was the last time
I saw him.
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00:25:40,042 --> 00:25:42,709
After that,
there was, like, crickets.
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00:25:45,042 --> 00:25:49,834
People had, like, theories
always revolving around drugs.
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00:25:49,918 --> 00:25:53,375
Like, at church or something,
I could see people whisper,
you know, like,
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"We heard he was wanted, and so
he jumped 'cause of drugs."
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00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,042
You know?
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No will, no funeral,
no anything.
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00:26:08,042 --> 00:26:09,209
That was it.
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00:26:09,876 --> 00:26:10,959
That was it.
474
00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:13,417
Isn't that weird?
475
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,834
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
476
00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:23,250
(FINGER SNAPPING)
477
00:26:23,334 --> 00:26:25,417
CRAIG: We're hereat the White River Bridge,
478
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,042
July 2nd, 2009.
479
00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:29,918
Tryin' to do a little
location scouting
480
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,250
for the documentary.
481
00:26:31,334 --> 00:26:34,125
-♪ (BROODING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(BIRDS CHIRPING)
482
00:26:39,751 --> 00:26:41,167
All of this stuff
pertains to Gary,
483
00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:45,792
all these files, all these boxes
and boxes of stuff, I mean,
484
00:26:45,876 --> 00:26:47,751
years and years and years.
485
00:26:48,542 --> 00:26:49,751
Why did he do it?
486
00:26:50,918 --> 00:26:52,792
I come back
and kept asking questions.
487
00:26:52,876 --> 00:26:55,667
One person would say one thing,
and one person then
would say another thing.
488
00:26:56,709 --> 00:26:58,125
There's a lot
of truth in fiction.
489
00:26:58,209 --> 00:27:00,250
I learned that, most certainly.
490
00:27:00,334 --> 00:27:02,459
But there's a lot
of fiction in truth.
491
00:27:05,125 --> 00:27:06,834
All the footage,
all the archives.
492
00:27:06,918 --> 00:27:10,292
Right over there, a little--
My life savings is in a box
right over there,
493
00:27:10,375 --> 00:27:12,042
about this big, a hard drive.
494
00:27:12,626 --> 00:27:15,167
PHIL LOTT:
495
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,584
Is the truth on there?
Fuck, I don't know.
496
00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,167
(TAPE REWINDING)
497
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:21,751
INTERVIEWER: So let's start
with the beginning stuff.
498
00:27:21,834 --> 00:27:25,250
So, how'd you
first learn the story?
499
00:27:25,334 --> 00:27:27,792
I first learned
of the story when I was...
500
00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,667
Let me-- let me start
that over. (INHALES)
501
00:27:30,751 --> 00:27:34,417
I first learned of the story
when I was about 14.
502
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:36,709
SALLY:
I can't tell if it's working.
503
00:27:36,792 --> 00:27:38,667
CRAIG: This kid namedTravis Matthews
504
00:27:38,751 --> 00:27:40,459
transferred into the school.
505
00:27:40,542 --> 00:27:42,751
SALLY: (CHUCKLES)
Give me a smile.
506
00:27:44,083 --> 00:27:46,584
Is that... Oh! (CHUCKLES)
507
00:27:46,667 --> 00:27:49,042
TRAVIS: I was in that stage,like, right after puberty.
508
00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:51,250
I didn't know how to comb,
I didn't know how to dress,
509
00:27:51,334 --> 00:27:53,959
-I didn't know, I didn't
know anything about that.
-SALLY: Oh, no.
510
00:27:54,042 --> 00:27:56,000
We'd go over to this place
where the bad kids would go
511
00:27:56,083 --> 00:27:58,876
before school. It was an alley
called the Smoke Hole...
512
00:27:58,959 --> 00:28:00,709
and we'd smoke cigarettes
over there.
513
00:28:00,792 --> 00:28:04,000
CRAIG: He was holding court,and he was telling stories
514
00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:05,709
that were better than mine.
515
00:28:05,792 --> 00:28:09,334
So, I was-- My audience
was being drained by this kid.
516
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:13,209
TRAVIS: I was a motormouth,storyteller. You know?
517
00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:15,876
I was like, I was a kid
who wouldn't shut up.
518
00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:19,375
He was telling everybody
his dad was a CIA agent,
519
00:28:19,459 --> 00:28:21,125
a secret agent.
520
00:28:21,209 --> 00:28:23,667
And none of our dads
were secret agents.
521
00:28:23,751 --> 00:28:26,709
So he topped us
on that one by a mile.
522
00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:29,542
I thought he was lying,
and so I said no way this--
523
00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:32,792
these are true stories.
And so I decided
524
00:28:32,876 --> 00:28:34,250
to dispel the notion.
525
00:28:34,334 --> 00:28:36,250
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
526
00:28:36,334 --> 00:28:38,959
CRAIG:
And I walked up to his house...
527
00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:41,959
-(KNOCKING AT DOOR)
-...and knocked on the door,and his mom answered.
528
00:28:42,042 --> 00:28:43,584
(DOOR OPENING)
529
00:28:43,667 --> 00:28:44,792
And I said, “Is it true?”
530
00:28:44,876 --> 00:28:46,459
Craig comes running in,
he's going,
531
00:28:46,542 --> 00:28:48,792
"Is it true? Is it true?"
532
00:28:48,876 --> 00:28:51,209
CRAIG: And she smiled and said,"Come on in."
533
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,125
She was like,
"No, he's not alive.
534
00:28:57,209 --> 00:29:00,000
There's some stories
that he did do a lot of things,
535
00:29:00,083 --> 00:29:02,209
but no, he's dead."
536
00:29:02,292 --> 00:29:04,500
So she was trying
to minimize the story.
537
00:29:04,584 --> 00:29:06,500
SALLY: I mean,
I have a hard time believing...
538
00:29:06,584 --> 00:29:08,500
(CHUCKLES)
...what I've gone through.
539
00:29:08,584 --> 00:29:13,626
But apparently, Travis
must have... (CHUCKLES)
...said a few things.
540
00:29:13,709 --> 00:29:16,167
The White River?
That's where my dad jumped in,
the White River.
541
00:29:17,751 --> 00:29:20,417
The car had broken down,
the hood was up.
542
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,083
I was in a trance, pretty much,
during all that time.
543
00:29:24,167 --> 00:29:27,709
CLAUDIA: He was veryinstantaneous and very dramatic.
544
00:29:27,792 --> 00:29:29,000
POLLY: No will...
545
00:29:29,083 --> 00:29:32,000
MIKE: I've been draggingthat river for ten, 12 years.
546
00:29:32,083 --> 00:29:33,083
POLLY: ...no funeral...
547
00:29:33,167 --> 00:29:35,459
And I've never
failed to get one out yet.
548
00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:36,626
...no anything.
549
00:29:36,709 --> 00:29:37,876
Couldn't ever find his body.
550
00:29:39,417 --> 00:29:44,125
I didn't think they talked
about... our double life.
551
00:29:44,209 --> 00:29:48,125
-(TAPE REWINDING)
-♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFYING) ♪
552
00:29:48,209 --> 00:29:50,209
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
553
00:29:50,292 --> 00:29:52,626
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
554
00:30:07,918 --> 00:30:09,792
PHIL:
555
00:30:11,959 --> 00:30:14,083
I've been trying
to answer that question for
556
00:30:14,167 --> 00:30:17,667
-almost 80 years. (LAUGHS)
-♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
557
00:30:17,751 --> 00:30:20,584
(LAUGHS) Who am I?
Well... (EXHALES)
558
00:30:20,667 --> 00:30:24,209
Basically, I'm just a farm boy
from Arkansas, really.
559
00:30:24,918 --> 00:30:27,751
♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
560
00:30:29,459 --> 00:30:31,918
There's a story here
that is much deeper
561
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,626
than it presents
itself on the surface.
562
00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:41,292
GARY BETZNER: The past...
563
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:44,250
you can't do anything about it.
564
00:30:45,209 --> 00:30:46,876
The only thing you can do
about it is,
565
00:30:46,959 --> 00:30:50,542
you can plan for the future,
and you can live in the moment.
566
00:30:52,542 --> 00:30:55,250
But I think the past
makes a good reference point...
567
00:30:57,751 --> 00:30:59,959
not a good hitching point.
568
00:31:00,042 --> 00:31:02,834
I think in some cases,
it's okay to tell a lie,
569
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,334
and even necessary.
570
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,792
The truth is... I didn't jump.
571
00:31:12,876 --> 00:31:14,876
I didn't even think
about jumping.
572
00:31:14,959 --> 00:31:16,876
That's how the story was told.
573
00:31:18,125 --> 00:31:19,918
But that never happened.
574
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,167
(MECHANICAL FLICKERING)
575
00:31:22,751 --> 00:31:23,792
How's that?
576
00:31:23,876 --> 00:31:26,375
The stories were told
through... Sally told one,
577
00:31:26,459 --> 00:31:28,584
Sara Lee told one, then
Travis told a different one.
578
00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:29,959
It was raining,
and a thunderstorm...
579
00:31:30,042 --> 00:31:31,959
Gave millions and millions
and millions of dollars.
580
00:31:32,042 --> 00:31:33,751
CRAIG: Dude, does this planelook airworthy?
581
00:31:33,834 --> 00:31:35,125
GARY: No, it doesn't.
582
00:31:35,209 --> 00:31:38,417
(OVERLAPPING INDISTINCT CHATTER)
583
00:31:39,542 --> 00:31:41,584
GARY: That's the house
I lived in, before I...
584
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,292
committed suicide here in Hazen.
585
00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:45,125
CRAIG:
What's the documentary about?
586
00:31:46,459 --> 00:31:48,209
GARY: That's a real
good question, Craig.
587
00:31:48,292 --> 00:31:51,083
♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
588
00:31:53,542 --> 00:31:56,709
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
589
00:31:56,792 --> 00:31:59,000
♪ (JITTERY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
590
00:31:59,083 --> 00:32:00,751
GARY:
I've always loved to fly...
591
00:32:02,751 --> 00:32:06,000
and crop dusting was the only
aviation place
592
00:32:06,083 --> 00:32:07,959
where you could still
do anything you wanted.
593
00:32:09,918 --> 00:32:12,626
(ENGINES REVVING)
594
00:32:12,709 --> 00:32:15,459
GARY: You know,aerobatics, or fly upside-down,
595
00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,792
and, you know, anythingyou wanted to do. (CHUCKLING)
596
00:32:20,584 --> 00:32:22,459
It's like you become one
with the airplane,
597
00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,626
like a violinist
becomes a virtuoso,
598
00:32:24,709 --> 00:32:28,292
because he can play the violin,
and do all this incredible stuff
599
00:32:28,375 --> 00:32:30,667
while he's figuring out
his taxes. (CHUCKLES)
600
00:32:34,667 --> 00:32:36,834
It becomes second nature
to you, you know?
601
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:42,375
Flying is like anything,
it's practice.
602
00:32:42,459 --> 00:32:44,292
The more you do it,
the better you become.
603
00:32:48,125 --> 00:32:49,792
Knowing you're
gonna die someday...
604
00:32:51,334 --> 00:32:53,167
flying takes on
a completely different...
605
00:32:54,292 --> 00:32:55,626
experience.
606
00:32:56,667 --> 00:32:58,709
Because this body's gonna die,
607
00:32:59,626 --> 00:33:00,918
but who you really are...
608
00:33:04,667 --> 00:33:06,167
can never die.
609
00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,709
♪ (WISTFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
610
00:33:09,876 --> 00:33:11,500
Yeah, I was raised up
with values
611
00:33:11,584 --> 00:33:13,459
that all Americans have,
you know,
612
00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,667
about fairness and integrity.
613
00:33:15,751 --> 00:33:18,417
But the biggest influence on me
as far as my character
614
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,167
was probably my stepdad.
615
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:24,500
He really impressed on me
about how important
your word was.
616
00:33:24,584 --> 00:33:27,125
That's also included
being honest with yourself.
617
00:33:27,209 --> 00:33:29,334
And so when you start being
really honest with yourself,
618
00:33:29,417 --> 00:33:31,292
that's when you can really
get in trouble,
619
00:33:31,375 --> 00:33:34,125
because sometimes
that doesn't go along with...
620
00:33:34,209 --> 00:33:36,709
society, might-- Or the law.
621
00:33:36,792 --> 00:33:38,751
♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
622
00:33:38,834 --> 00:33:41,000
INTERVIEWER:
623
00:33:41,083 --> 00:33:43,500
GARY: He and Mother separatedwhen I was about six.
624
00:33:44,834 --> 00:33:46,959
I kinda got screwed up
about the name deal, you know?
625
00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,292
I didn't know what name
I was supposed to use.
626
00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,000
My real father's name
was Tackett, T-A-C-K-E-T-T.
627
00:33:52,083 --> 00:33:55,167
And I didn't want to use Tackett
because I didn't feel like
I was a Tackett.
628
00:33:59,584 --> 00:34:02,375
Betzner was
my stepfather's name.
629
00:34:02,459 --> 00:34:03,834
And our parents gave us a choice
630
00:34:03,918 --> 00:34:05,918
when we were 18
to go one way or the other.
631
00:34:06,709 --> 00:34:08,209
So, I changed my name.
632
00:34:09,167 --> 00:34:11,000
I started
Betzner Flying Service.
633
00:34:13,250 --> 00:34:16,042
When I met Sally,
we started a whole new life.
634
00:34:18,417 --> 00:34:20,334
We got married.
635
00:34:20,417 --> 00:34:22,667
All I wanted to do
is build my business up enough
636
00:34:22,751 --> 00:34:24,959
where I could sell it
and get the hell out of Hazen.
637
00:34:25,959 --> 00:34:27,375
Sally had two kids right away...
638
00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:33,542
so I had to build a house...
639
00:34:36,083 --> 00:34:38,500
and live there for years
and years.
640
00:34:39,334 --> 00:34:40,709
I was in love with Sally, and...
641
00:34:43,417 --> 00:34:45,584
and we had a real good marriage,
and we were happy,
642
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:48,584
and looking forward
to the future
and all that kinda stuff, and...
643
00:34:50,042 --> 00:34:51,459
It was a good life.
644
00:34:54,709 --> 00:34:56,542
So, I always wanted
to be a crop duster.
645
00:34:57,417 --> 00:34:59,000
(CLEARS THROAT)
646
00:34:59,083 --> 00:35:01,959
And that's really hard,
dangerous work. I mean, hard,
647
00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:04,751
dangerous, hot...
(EXHALES) ...rough work.
648
00:35:04,834 --> 00:35:07,667
And, uh... did it 15 years.
649
00:35:07,751 --> 00:35:10,709
I really, I grew real tired
of it after a while.
650
00:35:10,792 --> 00:35:12,375
(PLANE ENGINE ROARING)
651
00:35:16,042 --> 00:35:20,834
NARRATOR: Alaska'svast undeveloped regions area storehouse of natural wealth.
652
00:35:20,918 --> 00:35:22,292
♪ (AUSTERE FOLK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
653
00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:23,751
GARY: I'd heardthere was good money
654
00:35:23,834 --> 00:35:26,167
to be made up in Alaska
up on the pipeline.
655
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:28,959
I sold my crop-dusting business.
656
00:35:29,042 --> 00:35:32,417
And I took about a half
a million bucks
and moved up to Alaska.
657
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,876
VINTAGE FILM NARRATOR:
Beautiful, rugged countrythat is sometimes called
658
00:35:35,959 --> 00:35:38,542
“America's last frontier.”
659
00:35:38,626 --> 00:35:41,209
Instead of making
a hundred thousand,
I could go make millions,
660
00:35:41,292 --> 00:35:43,751
and I saw the pipeline
as my opportunity.
661
00:35:43,834 --> 00:35:45,626
VINTAGE FILM NARRATOR:
And along the coastline,
662
00:35:45,709 --> 00:35:48,876
there are untapped
deposits of oil.
663
00:35:48,959 --> 00:35:52,918
And I went to Alaska to bid
on a pipeline reclamation.
664
00:35:54,459 --> 00:35:58,542
It was 800 miles that had to be
reclaimed and put back in shape.
665
00:35:58,626 --> 00:36:00,626
I spent all my money
preparing for it...
666
00:36:00,709 --> 00:36:02,209
(HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING)
667
00:36:02,292 --> 00:36:05,792
...and then another company
came along and contested my bid.
668
00:36:06,334 --> 00:36:08,042
And I lost it.
669
00:36:08,125 --> 00:36:11,167
Alaska was the last
of the Wild West. You know?
670
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:13,584
What it is, you don't pay off
the right people,
671
00:36:13,667 --> 00:36:16,918
then you don't get the contract.
And I didn't know that.
672
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,959
(ENGINE REVVING)
673
00:36:19,042 --> 00:36:20,751
GARY: Well, we havetwo airplanes at least.
674
00:36:22,292 --> 00:36:23,626
Might as well put them to work.
675
00:36:28,083 --> 00:36:30,209
So, I went and started
flying bush up there,
676
00:36:30,292 --> 00:36:31,959
and that was okay.
677
00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:34,667
When we got to Anchorage,
678
00:36:34,751 --> 00:36:36,626
and we're livin' there
for a while...
679
00:36:36,709 --> 00:36:39,417
(INHALES)
...Gary started smoking pot.
680
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:42,584
BROADCASTER:
Even in public, many adultssmoke pot with impunity,
681
00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:45,918
since in Alaska,
it's now nothing more
than a minor offense
682
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,709
to be caught
with up to 30 grams of the drug.
683
00:36:49,792 --> 00:36:52,542
SALLY: In the ‘70s,pot was legal in Alaska
684
00:36:52,626 --> 00:36:55,125
until Reagan's War on Drugs.
685
00:36:55,209 --> 00:36:57,918
(CROWD CHEERING)
686
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,876
Marijuana could very well be
687
00:36:59,959 --> 00:37:02,667
one of the most dangerous
threats to an entire generation
688
00:37:02,751 --> 00:37:05,334
of Americans of any drug
that we know.
689
00:37:05,417 --> 00:37:07,876
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
690
00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:10,626
GARY: While I was in Alaska,I realized that I just
691
00:37:10,709 --> 00:37:12,500
didn't feel
that anyone had the right
692
00:37:12,584 --> 00:37:15,584
to interfere with anybody's
right to self-determination.
693
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,751
If I want to eat salt or sugar,
even though they're bad for me,
694
00:37:18,834 --> 00:37:20,918
or do this or that,
no one should say,
695
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,167
"You can't do that."
696
00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:28,417
Oh, anti-drug, totally.
I was straight as an arrow,
697
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,459
thought all drugs were evil.
698
00:37:30,542 --> 00:37:33,500
I mean, I grew up with,
you know,
699
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:37,083
Beatles being bad. (LAUGHS)
700
00:37:38,417 --> 00:37:39,834
You know, they have long hair.
701
00:37:39,918 --> 00:37:41,334
♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
702
00:37:41,417 --> 00:37:43,459
GARY: In Alaska at that time,in all the bars,
703
00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,542
everybody smoked weed,
everybody.
704
00:37:46,876 --> 00:37:48,125
It was everywhere.
705
00:37:48,209 --> 00:37:50,375
BROADCASTER:
And it's all perfectly legal.
706
00:37:50,459 --> 00:37:53,918
He looked at me and said,
“You've got to try marijuana.”
707
00:37:55,292 --> 00:37:57,584
He starts rolling joints.
708
00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:00,125
So we're sitting, talking,
and we're smoking this,
709
00:38:00,209 --> 00:38:03,959
and my arm would go up
and I'd put it down,
710
00:38:04,042 --> 00:38:06,250
and it'd go up, and put it down.
711
00:38:06,334 --> 00:38:10,542
Finally, I started laughing
and I finally caught on
what a high... (LAUGHS)
712
00:38:10,626 --> 00:38:13,125
...was all about. (LAUGHS)
713
00:38:13,209 --> 00:38:17,626
I was so mad at the government
for lying to me...
714
00:38:17,709 --> 00:38:20,042
for truly lying,
because that's the reason
715
00:38:20,125 --> 00:38:22,500
I was so anti-drug,
because the bullshit
716
00:38:22,584 --> 00:38:25,375
that they had fed,
and feeding everybody,
717
00:38:25,459 --> 00:38:27,751
on how dangerous marijuana was.
718
00:38:27,834 --> 00:38:31,083
Well, then I went from,
“Well, if they're lying
to me about this,
719
00:38:31,167 --> 00:38:33,417
what else are they lying
to me about?”
720
00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:37,751
GARY: I guessthis is where my first
721
00:38:37,834 --> 00:38:39,626
smuggling event took place.
722
00:38:40,459 --> 00:38:41,542
I was doing pretty good,
723
00:38:41,626 --> 00:38:43,375
but I just needed
to make a little extra cash.
724
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:46,167
They started hauling whiskey.
725
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:49,751
I sold it to the guys that were
working on the pipeline.
726
00:38:49,834 --> 00:38:53,375
And from that,
evolved into smuggling weed.
727
00:38:53,459 --> 00:38:55,500
I knew people
in all the villages around,
728
00:38:55,584 --> 00:38:57,584
and so I had
a pretty good thing going.
729
00:38:57,667 --> 00:38:59,918
A pound here, a pound there,
you know, I'd make
730
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,125
a little money doing that.
731
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,292
As time went on,
things went kind of awry.
732
00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:10,167
My enterprise faltered,
because I lost my connection
733
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:12,000
who was bringing it to me.
734
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,667
Pretty soon, you don't have
as much money coming in, and...
735
00:39:14,751 --> 00:39:15,959
(WIND HOWLING)
736
00:39:16,042 --> 00:39:18,792
...in that kind of weather,
in ice, six months a year,
737
00:39:18,876 --> 00:39:20,083
you couldn't fly.
738
00:39:20,167 --> 00:39:22,959
So, I didn't have
any business anymore.
739
00:39:24,959 --> 00:39:28,083
SALLY: We had no moneyfor another hotel room.
740
00:39:28,167 --> 00:39:29,500
We had spent everything.
741
00:39:31,083 --> 00:39:33,209
We moved back to Arkansas.
742
00:39:33,292 --> 00:39:36,667
(WIND RUSHING)
743
00:39:36,751 --> 00:39:39,375
SALLY: We were livingin my mom's house,
744
00:39:39,459 --> 00:39:40,709
the one I grew up in.
745
00:39:42,959 --> 00:39:44,792
GARY: I really didn't mindmoving back to Hazen,
746
00:39:44,876 --> 00:39:47,918
but in my heart and soul,
I had bigger plans.
747
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,542
But then I noticed my toes hurt.
748
00:39:55,334 --> 00:39:57,250
Not all the time,
but frequently.
749
00:39:58,876 --> 00:40:00,042
First it started
in my right toe,
750
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:02,792
then it was my left.
I had gout real bad.
751
00:40:02,876 --> 00:40:05,375
I knew what I had,
because my dad had it.
752
00:40:05,459 --> 00:40:08,751
In other words,
the body's chemistry
is out of balance.
753
00:40:08,834 --> 00:40:12,000
There's too much
of one chemical, uric acid.
754
00:40:13,834 --> 00:40:17,667
GARY: I went back to flying,and the aircraft's vibrating,
755
00:40:17,751 --> 00:40:19,667
and I can't push
the goddamn pedals.
756
00:40:20,709 --> 00:40:22,959
And it got progressively worse.
757
00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:26,083
It was so bad that I had
to cut the toes out of my shoes.
758
00:40:26,167 --> 00:40:28,459
If you ever had the gout,
you know what I'm talking about.
759
00:40:28,542 --> 00:40:31,167
It's very, very, very, very,
very painful.
760
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:34,167
There's gotta be a cure.
Somebody must have
found something.
761
00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:37,042
And, uh, the best cure
in the world for it is cocaine.
762
00:40:37,125 --> 00:40:40,292
♪ (UPBEAT FUNK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
763
00:40:42,209 --> 00:40:44,125
GARY: I heardabout this judge in Colorado
764
00:40:44,209 --> 00:40:47,000
who healed his gout
by doing cocaine...
765
00:40:47,083 --> 00:40:49,083
and so I called him up,
and he told me
766
00:40:49,167 --> 00:40:52,834
about this book called
The Divine Plant of the Incas,
767
00:40:52,918 --> 00:40:54,459
and it healed
every known disease
768
00:40:54,542 --> 00:40:55,918
that was known then.
769
00:40:56,542 --> 00:40:57,751
Somehow they found out
770
00:40:57,834 --> 00:41:01,542
that cocaine removes uric
and lactic acids from the body.
771
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:05,000
It alkalizes the blood,
allows the blood
to carry more oxygen.
772
00:41:05,083 --> 00:41:08,125
Drink a little Gatorade
with some cocaine in it,
773
00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:10,417
and you're on your way.
774
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:17,042
GARY: That's how I wound upin Miami looking for it.
775
00:41:17,125 --> 00:41:21,542
♪ (EASYGOING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
776
00:41:21,626 --> 00:41:23,792
GARY: It is a medicinethat will heal gout,
777
00:41:23,876 --> 00:41:25,959
and it did that for me.
778
00:41:26,042 --> 00:41:28,167
But the real reason
I went to Miami
779
00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:30,834
was to get cocaine
for recreational use.
780
00:41:32,792 --> 00:41:34,626
♪ (FOREBODING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
781
00:41:36,584 --> 00:41:37,834
GARY: I thought I wouldfind somebody
782
00:41:37,918 --> 00:41:39,000
that I could
buy the cocaine from.
783
00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:40,417
(CHUCKLING)
You know what I mean?
784
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,250
And, um... I did.
785
00:41:43,751 --> 00:41:46,000
Just went
to the guy's house, and...
786
00:41:47,292 --> 00:41:49,626
and he had the coke there and...
787
00:41:49,709 --> 00:41:53,417
we were all sitting
around kind of a counter.
788
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:57,167
The owner of the house
was kinda standing
at the center.
789
00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:59,459
I said, "Why don't you test it
and see what it's like?"
790
00:42:00,751 --> 00:42:01,876
And he wouldn't do it.
791
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:05,375
I kinda looked
at the guy, I said,
792
00:42:05,459 --> 00:42:07,459
"What the hell?" You know?
793
00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:10,918
I immediately got a sense that
something was wrong, you know?
794
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,542
Something was just wrong.
795
00:42:12,626 --> 00:42:15,042
These other two guys, they knew
something was wrong too. And...
796
00:42:15,751 --> 00:42:17,209
next thing you know,
797
00:42:17,292 --> 00:42:19,834
the DEA came through
the windows and the doors.
798
00:42:19,918 --> 00:42:22,250
♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
799
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,209
(SIREN WAILING)
800
00:42:28,042 --> 00:42:29,334
GARY: Everybody's under arrest.
801
00:42:29,417 --> 00:42:30,959
REPORTER: Duringthe early morning hours,
802
00:42:31,042 --> 00:42:33,167
a task force
of Drug Enforcement Agents
803
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:37,584
seized seven pounds of cocaine.
More arrests are expected.
804
00:42:37,667 --> 00:42:39,292
GARY: But I wasn'tthe only one doing it.
805
00:42:39,375 --> 00:42:40,876
There were quite a few people.
806
00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:44,334
There were two Miami Dolphins
that were arrested
the same night...
807
00:42:45,667 --> 00:42:47,125
Reese and Crowder.
808
00:42:47,209 --> 00:42:50,584
REPORTER:
Defensive lineman Randy Crowderand defensive tackle Don Reese
809
00:42:50,667 --> 00:42:54,083
allegedly were trying to
sell about a pound of cocaine
810
00:42:54,167 --> 00:42:55,709
for 20,000 dollars.
811
00:42:55,792 --> 00:42:59,667
It had a street value
of more than 200,000 dollars.
812
00:42:59,751 --> 00:43:02,542
I woke up
about five o'clock and...
813
00:43:03,834 --> 00:43:06,167
saw him being
busted in Florida...
814
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,292
(SIGHS)
815
00:43:07,375 --> 00:43:09,626
...as clear as
I was sittin' in that room.
816
00:43:09,709 --> 00:43:11,125
♪ (EDGY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
817
00:43:11,209 --> 00:43:13,876
GARY: I was facingup to 20 years in Florida.
818
00:43:14,584 --> 00:43:16,250
I was out on bail,
819
00:43:16,334 --> 00:43:20,083
and I went back to Arkansas,
awaiting the trial.
820
00:43:20,167 --> 00:43:24,375
But I still had gout real bad,
and I had to do something.
821
00:43:24,459 --> 00:43:26,042
(SIREN WAILING)
822
00:43:26,125 --> 00:43:28,375
GARY: And then I getbusted again in Arkansas.
823
00:43:31,125 --> 00:43:33,626
INTERVIEWER: And can you tell us
what the crime was?
824
00:43:33,709 --> 00:43:37,125
It was possession
of a controlled substance.
825
00:43:37,209 --> 00:43:39,751
♪ (SINISTER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
826
00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:43,334
GARY: I said, "Well, shit,I'm gonna get at leastten years for Miami,"
827
00:43:43,417 --> 00:43:46,500
and probably get life
up here in Arkansas
for an ounce."
828
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:48,959
Didn't look good.
829
00:43:49,042 --> 00:43:52,500
I didn't feel like
anybody should have to go
to jail for illegal substances.
830
00:43:52,584 --> 00:43:53,959
I mean, what the fuck, you know?
831
00:43:54,042 --> 00:43:56,083
There's nothin' wrong with coke,
and nothin' wrong with weed.
832
00:43:57,876 --> 00:44:00,000
It was wrong,
and the laws are wrong.
833
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:02,500
Really small town,
834
00:44:02,584 --> 00:44:04,542
all the people
we thought were our friends,
835
00:44:04,626 --> 00:44:07,083
they all turned
their backs on us...
836
00:44:07,167 --> 00:44:09,334
because it was unheard of,
people getting involved
837
00:44:09,417 --> 00:44:11,167
in drugs and things like that.
838
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:14,834
And actually all we have
is each other and the family.
839
00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:17,834
SALLY: He was lookingat some serious jail time.
840
00:44:17,918 --> 00:44:20,834
And he totally believed
in what he was doing, that,
841
00:44:20,918 --> 00:44:25,626
you know, coke and marijuana
were the sign of the future,
842
00:44:25,709 --> 00:44:28,626
and that he's not gonna
kowtow to their laws.
843
00:44:28,709 --> 00:44:31,584
It was a heart-wrenching
situation, it's like...
844
00:44:31,667 --> 00:44:33,459
two people who loved each other,
845
00:44:33,542 --> 00:44:36,459
our children were young, and
we just didn't wanna be apart.
846
00:44:36,542 --> 00:44:39,542
I figured, "Well, that's
something worth fighting for."
847
00:44:41,167 --> 00:44:43,459
SALLY: We were just waitingfor the trial,
848
00:44:43,542 --> 00:44:46,417
trying to figure out
how to get out of this...
849
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:50,417
situation he had
gotten himself in.
850
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:53,709
GARY: One night, we weredriving around in a carso we could smoke weed,
851
00:44:53,792 --> 00:44:57,250
and didn't have to do it
around the family or whatever.
852
00:44:57,334 --> 00:45:01,125
She said, “I don't know what
to do.” I said, "I'll tell you
what I want to do."
853
00:45:01,209 --> 00:45:04,709
What any good American
would do. (SCOFFS)
854
00:45:04,792 --> 00:45:06,876
I want to do the rabbit,
I want to run. (CHUCKLES)
855
00:45:06,959 --> 00:45:09,042
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
856
00:45:09,125 --> 00:45:11,125
GARY: I'll go somewhere,I'll get a new ID,
857
00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:14,167
reestablish myself.
I'll get you and the kids,
858
00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:15,792
and we'll live happily
ever after.
859
00:45:15,876 --> 00:45:18,751
And she agreed with me.
That was our best shot.
860
00:45:19,584 --> 00:45:21,209
And so we made our plans.
861
00:45:24,209 --> 00:45:26,125
I said, "Well,
I'm gonna fake my suicide."
862
00:45:26,209 --> 00:45:28,626
People are not gonna
find my body.
863
00:45:28,709 --> 00:45:31,500
And I wrote
this drug-crazed suicide note.
864
00:45:32,334 --> 00:45:34,751
Had a motorcycle waiting for me.
865
00:45:34,834 --> 00:45:37,792
We went to a telephone booth
outside of Carlisle.
866
00:45:37,876 --> 00:45:39,209
I got the phone number,
867
00:45:39,292 --> 00:45:43,083
and she was
to be there every month
at a specific time.
868
00:45:43,167 --> 00:45:48,209
Not once did I ever think,
“Oh, that's too crazy,
869
00:45:48,292 --> 00:45:49,500
I'm not gonna do that.
870
00:45:49,584 --> 00:45:52,417
Just get me out of Hazen.”
(LAUGHS)
871
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,167
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
872
00:45:54,250 --> 00:45:57,209
GARY: We figuredthat was the best way to do it.There was no other way out.
873
00:45:57,292 --> 00:46:00,667
Go to prison for years
and years and years,
or go make a new life.
874
00:46:00,751 --> 00:46:03,667
♪ (ENIGMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
875
00:46:03,751 --> 00:46:08,334
My wife and I
had done a self-hypnosis course
by a master hypnotist
876
00:46:08,417 --> 00:46:09,834
named Shawn Masters.
877
00:46:14,709 --> 00:46:17,083
And it lasted
about three months.
We went every weekend.
878
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,918
SALLY: We had done self-hypnosiswith Shawn Masters.
879
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,834
When you go in self-hypnosis,
880
00:46:24,918 --> 00:46:29,542
it's like you go into this zone
and then you program yourself.
881
00:46:31,292 --> 00:46:36,209
GARY: The power of hypnosis,it was... incredible.
882
00:46:36,292 --> 00:46:39,709
I was seeing things
that you wouldn't
believe happened.
883
00:46:39,792 --> 00:46:44,042
A person had his neck
put on a chair here
and his feet here,
884
00:46:44,125 --> 00:46:46,626
and he told them that
they were a piece of steel.
885
00:46:46,709 --> 00:46:49,459
And then Shawn Masters
would get up
and stand on their stomach.
886
00:46:54,167 --> 00:46:56,542
I had the power
to hypnotize her.
887
00:46:56,626 --> 00:47:00,792
SALLY:
It took a good three weeks,every night, twice a day, maybe.
888
00:47:05,626 --> 00:47:07,334
(DOOR CLOSING)
889
00:47:07,417 --> 00:47:11,375
SALLY: We had had some clotheswe had put togetherfor me to throw over the bridge.
890
00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:20,959
So he would put me under
and tell the story
of how he jumped off the bridge.
891
00:47:23,334 --> 00:47:25,959
Like I said, when
that shoe would hit the water...
892
00:47:26,042 --> 00:47:28,083
-(ECHOING CLAP)
-TRAVIS:
He jumped off the bridge.
893
00:47:28,167 --> 00:47:30,417
SALLY: ...that programmingwould come out.
894
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:31,751
TRAVIS: Right into the water.
895
00:47:31,834 --> 00:47:34,584
It would trigger me
to think that he had jumped
896
00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:36,959
off the bridge
and committed suicide.
897
00:47:37,042 --> 00:47:40,626
GARY: And when I realizedwhat had happened,I... I collapsed.
898
00:47:40,709 --> 00:47:42,167
(DISTANT THUNDER RUMBLING)
899
00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:44,834
SALLY:
When I recounted everything,
900
00:47:44,918 --> 00:47:48,250
I felt it, you know?
It was real.
901
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,042
I also told her that she'd
never have sex with anybody ever
902
00:47:56,125 --> 00:48:01,209
that would be satisfying,
except me. (LAUGHS)
903
00:48:01,292 --> 00:48:05,918
Of course he throws in,
“You'll never have an orgasm
with a man ever again.”
904
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,876
(LAUGHS)
905
00:48:09,709 --> 00:48:13,626
♪ (MYSTERIOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
906
00:48:13,709 --> 00:48:16,209
My dad was still alive,
but my mother was dead.
907
00:48:17,042 --> 00:48:18,792
If she had been alive,
908
00:48:18,876 --> 00:48:21,667
I probably would never have
done anything to getmyself in trouble. (CHUCKLING)
909
00:48:21,751 --> 00:48:26,751
You know? I'd be real careful,
because I never wanted
to disappoint my mother, ever,
910
00:48:26,834 --> 00:48:30,000
'cause she was such a loyal...
911
00:48:31,083 --> 00:48:33,751
incredible woman, you know?
912
00:48:33,834 --> 00:48:36,417
I just-- I told my stepdad
what I was gonna do,
913
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,667
and he was disappointed
I had gotten busted.
914
00:48:38,751 --> 00:48:40,000
And I remember...
915
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,000
hugging him
and we were both crying.
916
00:48:44,292 --> 00:48:46,083
And we said goodbye.
917
00:48:47,375 --> 00:48:48,500
Mm-hmm.
918
00:48:49,417 --> 00:48:51,083
And I never talked to him again.
919
00:48:53,459 --> 00:48:55,834
♪ ("I'LL GET OVER YOU" BY
CRYSTAL GALE PLAYING ON RADIO) ♪
920
00:48:55,918 --> 00:49:00,334
♪ I'll get over you ♪
921
00:49:00,417 --> 00:49:04,209
♪ I'll get through
And when I do ♪
922
00:49:04,292 --> 00:49:07,042
SALLY: He hadbeen hypnotizing me for weeks.
923
00:49:07,125 --> 00:49:11,792
♪ I'll be good as new
When I get over you ♪
924
00:49:11,876 --> 00:49:14,709
SALLY: The day of, we drive upto the bridge...
925
00:49:15,709 --> 00:49:17,334
and he parks the car.
926
00:49:18,834 --> 00:49:21,042
I was... in tears...
927
00:49:23,209 --> 00:49:24,459
and so was she.
928
00:49:27,292 --> 00:49:28,667
I got out of my car...
929
00:49:29,876 --> 00:49:31,709
gave her the note.
930
00:49:31,792 --> 00:49:34,334
And I got in a pickup truck
with my friend.
931
00:49:35,918 --> 00:49:38,042
And he took me to Texarkana.
932
00:49:38,125 --> 00:49:41,292
And, to this very day, he will
never admit that he did it.
933
00:49:43,375 --> 00:49:47,751
SALLY: I'm left thereon the road with some shoes
934
00:49:47,834 --> 00:49:49,334
and some clothes
935
00:49:49,417 --> 00:49:51,459
that I throw over the edge.
936
00:49:53,709 --> 00:49:56,334
When that shoe
hit the water, it hit...
937
00:49:56,417 --> 00:49:57,500
(CLAPPING)
938
00:49:57,584 --> 00:49:59,000
-...flat.
-(ECHOING BOOM)
939
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:01,209
And it sounded
like a gunshot going off.
940
00:50:01,292 --> 00:50:05,250
When that slapped, it put me
in that hypnosis thing,
941
00:50:05,334 --> 00:50:06,918
I was hysterical.
942
00:50:08,125 --> 00:50:11,209
I cried, I was on my knees.
I was just like,
943
00:50:11,292 --> 00:50:13,083
"What did you do?"
944
00:50:13,167 --> 00:50:15,334
It was just like
a switch went on.
945
00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:17,542
♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
946
00:50:17,626 --> 00:50:19,834
GARY: She stayed on the bridgeand somebody came up,
947
00:50:19,918 --> 00:50:21,709
another vehicle,
and she told them
948
00:50:21,792 --> 00:50:23,209
that I jumped off the bridge.
949
00:50:24,542 --> 00:50:28,209
They actually believed her.
I mean, she convinced them all.
950
00:50:28,292 --> 00:50:31,459
I'm real proud of her,
how she handled herself.
951
00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:34,250
(MOTORCYCLE ENGINE REVVING)
952
00:50:39,083 --> 00:50:43,292
GARY: I was dead and I was goingacross the plains of Texas.
953
00:50:44,751 --> 00:50:47,584
And I just suddenly realized...
954
00:50:49,083 --> 00:50:52,542
that 35 years of my life,
which had been pretty good,
955
00:50:52,626 --> 00:50:54,209
you know, uh...
956
00:50:55,292 --> 00:50:56,667
was gone.
957
00:50:56,751 --> 00:50:59,709
-(HEART BEATING)
-(ENGINE REVVING)
958
00:51:01,209 --> 00:51:02,751
GARY: I didn't start outbreaking the law,
959
00:51:02,834 --> 00:51:05,167
and becoming a felon,
and then eventually
960
00:51:05,250 --> 00:51:07,709
doing what I did
because I wanted to.
961
00:51:07,792 --> 00:51:10,542
It's just the way
things transpired.
962
00:51:12,417 --> 00:51:15,083
It turned out
to be much more difficult
963
00:51:15,167 --> 00:51:17,375
and, you might say,
heartbreaking than...
964
00:51:17,459 --> 00:51:19,667
anything I'd ever done
in my life, really.
965
00:51:20,375 --> 00:51:21,584
Even... (CHUCKLES)
966
00:51:22,667 --> 00:51:23,918
...right now...
967
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:30,209
those same feelings...
968
00:51:32,083 --> 00:51:34,584
(CHUCKLES) ...are still there.
969
00:51:37,584 --> 00:51:40,334
(LIPS SMACKING) And not mainly
because of the loss,
970
00:51:40,417 --> 00:51:42,459
but because of what happened...
971
00:51:44,292 --> 00:51:45,626
in that moment,
972
00:51:46,417 --> 00:51:48,292
on that motorcycle. (CHUCKLES)
973
00:51:49,167 --> 00:51:53,626
Is probably
very difficult for...
974
00:51:54,375 --> 00:51:55,500
To understand.
975
00:51:55,584 --> 00:51:57,959
(WIND GUSTING)
976
00:51:58,042 --> 00:51:59,709
I've never been,
like, a religious person
977
00:51:59,792 --> 00:52:01,083
or a believer.
978
00:52:02,876 --> 00:52:06,417
But a feeling came over me
that was so powerful,
979
00:52:07,542 --> 00:52:10,042
and it was almost
like a voice came to me
980
00:52:10,125 --> 00:52:11,918
and said, "Okay..."
981
00:52:12,542 --> 00:52:13,751
you can have this...
982
00:52:15,417 --> 00:52:16,626
but no one can ever know...
983
00:52:17,959 --> 00:52:21,167
or even have an inkling
that you have this power.
984
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:23,375
If anyone knows,
you don't exist,
985
00:52:23,459 --> 00:52:25,709
"you never did exist,
and you never will exist."
986
00:52:27,292 --> 00:52:30,459
”I said, "Well, you know,
I don't want any power."
(CHUCKLES)
987
00:52:32,918 --> 00:52:34,417
"But I'm scared."
988
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:35,876
I just want protection.
989
00:52:37,209 --> 00:52:38,375
"Show me the way."
990
00:52:40,751 --> 00:52:42,751
And that's where this
wild and crazy story
991
00:52:42,834 --> 00:52:44,959
really began, right there.
992
00:52:45,042 --> 00:52:46,709
(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)
993
00:52:46,792 --> 00:52:50,167
When you commit suicide,
you aren't planning
on coming back.
994
00:52:51,751 --> 00:52:52,918
But I did come back.
995
00:52:53,834 --> 00:52:57,250
I became the biggest, baddest...
996
00:52:57,334 --> 00:52:59,709
(ENGINE REVVING)
997
00:52:59,792 --> 00:53:01,292
...drug smuggler of all time.
998
00:53:01,375 --> 00:53:03,167
♪ ("I'LL GET OVER YOU" BY
CRYSTAL GALE PLAYING) ♪
999
00:53:03,250 --> 00:53:05,083
♪ One thing 'bout
This heart of mine ♪
1000
00:53:06,334 --> 00:53:10,250
♪ All my hurt's
Gonna mend in time ♪
1001
00:53:10,334 --> 00:53:14,292
♪ It don't leave
No scars behind ♪
1002
00:53:14,375 --> 00:53:17,626
♪ I'll get over you ♪
1003
00:53:19,125 --> 00:53:22,375
♪ I'll find me a guy one day ♪
1004
00:53:23,626 --> 00:53:26,959
♪ Who's not scared
To give his heart away ♪
1005
00:53:27,959 --> 00:53:31,542
♪ When I do, it's safe to say ♪
1006
00:53:31,626 --> 00:53:34,626
♪ That I'll get over you ♪
1007
00:53:36,375 --> 00:53:41,000
♪ I'll get over you ♪
1008
00:53:41,083 --> 00:53:45,083
♪ I'll get throughAnd when I do ♪
1009
00:53:45,167 --> 00:53:49,292
♪ I'll be good as new ♪
1010
00:53:49,375 --> 00:53:52,626
♪ When I get over you ♪
1011
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,626
♪ From now on
Think I'll lay low ♪
1012
00:54:00,876 --> 00:54:05,125
♪ I'll talk fast
But I'll move slow ♪
1013
00:54:05,209 --> 00:54:08,792
♪ You taught me
All I need to know ♪
1014
00:54:08,876 --> 00:54:12,375
♪ 'Bout gettin' over you ♪
1015
00:54:13,542 --> 00:54:17,334
♪ Sometimes think
I love you still ♪
1016
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:21,584
♪ Wonder if I always will ♪
1017
00:54:22,542 --> 00:54:26,292
♪ But I know it's just until ♪
1018
00:54:26,375 --> 00:54:29,584
♪ I get over you ♪
1019
00:54:30,751 --> 00:54:35,417
♪ I'll get over you ♪
1020
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,751
♪ I'll get through
And when I do ♪
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