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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,552 --> 00:00:19,752 Her life was brought to an end and there was no reason for it. 2 00:00:20,912 --> 00:00:25,062 It's as if though she was murdered and she's just been forgotten about. 3 00:00:25,142 --> 00:00:27,392 She's disappeared from the face of the Earth. 4 00:00:33,981 --> 00:00:36,472 Peter Sutcliffe. Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper... 5 00:00:36,552 --> 00:00:38,452 Peter Sutcliffe had killed 13 women... 6 00:00:42,502 --> 00:00:44,182 'She said she was going out 7 00:00:44,262 --> 00:00:46,262 'for a ride on her bike to her sister's.' 8 00:00:47,502 --> 00:00:48,752 There was blood everywhere. 9 00:00:48,832 --> 00:00:52,952 'Tests confirmed there was no more brain activity.' 10 00:00:53,032 --> 00:00:54,502 Why was he ruled out? 11 00:00:54,582 --> 00:00:57,981 Why did nobody put to him, "Did you kill my daughter"? 12 00:00:59,422 --> 00:01:02,781 So many chances were missed because the police were not listening. 13 00:01:02,861 --> 00:01:05,472 The man who spoke to me was a Yorkshireman. 14 00:01:05,552 --> 00:01:07,872 They really believed he was a Geordie. 15 00:01:07,952 --> 00:01:10,781 'I'm Jack.' 16 00:01:10,861 --> 00:01:12,472 The long-term effects with the family 17 00:01:12,552 --> 00:01:14,702 is we don't like to talk about it. 18 00:01:14,782 --> 00:01:17,082 We've brushed it under the carpet, so to speak. 19 00:01:20,782 --> 00:01:24,502 Three men lost the best years of their life 20 00:01:24,582 --> 00:01:29,542 locked up in prison for crimes which the evidence shows 21 00:01:29,622 --> 00:01:34,032 Sutcliffe should have been considered a prime suspect. 22 00:01:48,342 --> 00:01:49,952 When I think about my mum... 23 00:01:50,032 --> 00:01:53,981 And it's really hard to remember long periods with her. 24 00:01:54,061 --> 00:01:56,182 It's like little fleeting things. 25 00:01:56,262 --> 00:01:58,702 But I do remember her being emotional. 26 00:02:00,142 --> 00:02:01,722 I can't remember now how she sounded. 27 00:02:01,802 --> 00:02:03,921 I can't remember her voice. 28 00:02:04,001 --> 00:02:07,001 I'd like to say she was a kind person. 29 00:02:07,081 --> 00:02:10,211 It's such a long time ago that I can't say that. 30 00:02:12,442 --> 00:02:13,922 But she was my mum. 31 00:02:15,922 --> 00:02:19,332 Mum was described as a feisty character. 32 00:02:19,412 --> 00:02:21,602 And she did have a feisty character. 33 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:24,612 I've got this memory as a child. 34 00:02:24,692 --> 00:02:27,332 A group of kids further down the street, 35 00:02:27,412 --> 00:02:29,522 past the halfway mark where we weren't supposed to go, 36 00:02:29,602 --> 00:02:33,162 got me and they took my trousers down. 37 00:02:34,852 --> 00:02:36,692 I went home and told Mum that 38 00:02:36,772 --> 00:02:38,442 and she went down there 39 00:02:38,522 --> 00:02:41,051 and she was banging on that door, demanding... 40 00:02:41,131 --> 00:02:43,892 And I can't remember what happened, I just remember being with my mum, 41 00:02:43,972 --> 00:02:45,881 being taken there and her being that, 42 00:02:45,961 --> 00:02:51,131 I guess, that feisty character, wanting to defend her son. 43 00:03:01,242 --> 00:03:02,842 'Body identified 44 00:03:02,922 --> 00:03:05,001 'as that of 28-year-old divorcee Wilma McCann.' 45 00:03:05,081 --> 00:03:06,722 'Her body was found 46 00:03:06,802 --> 00:03:09,162 'just inside the Prince Philip Playing Fields, Chapeltown. 47 00:03:09,242 --> 00:03:11,612 'She'd been brutally battered about the head 48 00:03:11,692 --> 00:03:14,282 'and had other horrifying injuries to her body, 49 00:03:14,362 --> 00:03:16,492 'which the police will not disclose.' 50 00:03:16,572 --> 00:03:20,131 Wilma was found a very short distance from her own home, 51 00:03:20,211 --> 00:03:22,202 on a playing field nearby. 52 00:03:22,282 --> 00:03:25,082 She'd been struck twice with a hammer 53 00:03:25,162 --> 00:03:29,332 and stabbed 15 times in the chest and abdomen and the neck. 54 00:03:29,412 --> 00:03:32,131 Her clothes had been pulled down and pulled up. 55 00:03:38,572 --> 00:03:42,242 Wilma's case was delegated, first of all, to Dennis Hoban. 56 00:03:45,852 --> 00:03:49,562 Cos she'd been out that night and she'd had a few drinks 57 00:03:49,642 --> 00:03:52,052 and she accepted a lift from her attacker. 58 00:03:53,211 --> 00:03:56,251 That, as far as the authorities were concerned, 59 00:03:56,331 --> 00:04:00,922 was enough to make her almost culpable in her own murder. 60 00:04:03,522 --> 00:04:06,162 The way she was portrayed 61 00:04:06,242 --> 00:04:09,842 reflected the twin cultures 62 00:04:09,922 --> 00:04:13,492 of the police and the press. 63 00:04:13,572 --> 00:04:18,542 Those were unequivocally, unchangeably male. 64 00:04:18,622 --> 00:04:20,622 Old—fashioned male. 65 00:04:22,552 --> 00:04:25,342 The police saw her as a "good time girl" 66 00:04:25,422 --> 00:04:29,111 and the press went one further and called her a prostitute. 67 00:04:30,472 --> 00:04:33,781 I can remember the night of her not coming home. 68 00:04:33,861 --> 00:04:35,622 I can remember being woken. 69 00:04:35,702 --> 00:04:38,472 I can remember thinking or feeling, 70 00:04:38,552 --> 00:04:41,542 when they took us into the visitors' room, 71 00:04:41,622 --> 00:04:43,422 that she was going to be in there. 72 00:04:44,832 --> 00:04:46,231 She wasn't there. 73 00:04:46,311 --> 00:04:48,961 It was a police photographer, who took our photograph. 74 00:05:10,902 --> 00:05:13,031 'Peter Sutcliffe, surrounded by police, 75 00:05:13,111 --> 00:05:14,901 'was walked the few yards to the court doorway.' 76 00:05:14,981 --> 00:05:17,422 Die! Die! Die! 77 00:05:44,191 --> 00:05:47,781 Mary Judge was a carer for an elderly man. 78 00:05:47,861 --> 00:05:51,622 She was also working as a sex worker 79 00:05:51,702 --> 00:05:53,981 to try and earn money just to survive. 80 00:05:58,422 --> 00:06:00,312 On the night she died, 81 00:06:00,392 --> 00:06:02,182 she followed what appears to have been 82 00:06:02,262 --> 00:06:05,182 a fairly standard routine for her. 83 00:06:05,262 --> 00:06:09,142 She went and placed a shilling bet on a horse. 84 00:06:10,752 --> 00:06:12,622 And in the evening 85 00:06:12,702 --> 00:06:17,311 she went to the pubs in the Calls area on Kirkgate. 86 00:06:20,502 --> 00:06:22,622 She'd been to the local hostelries 87 00:06:22,702 --> 00:06:26,111 and she was sighted at various establishments. 88 00:06:27,672 --> 00:06:31,111 And then a young boy, who was in a train, 89 00:06:31,191 --> 00:06:33,031 looking out of the train window, 90 00:06:33,111 --> 00:06:38,472 caught a fleeting glimpse of a man attacking a woman. 91 00:06:57,702 --> 00:07:02,502 When Mary was found, she was found slumped against a low wall. 92 00:07:03,902 --> 00:07:06,832 They identified her through her fingerprints. 93 00:07:08,191 --> 00:07:11,702 With hindsight, her body bore all the hallmarks 94 00:07:11,782 --> 00:07:13,782 of Peter Sutcliffe's MO. 95 00:07:14,981 --> 00:07:17,191 The case was dealt with by Dennis Hoban. 96 00:07:29,752 --> 00:07:34,111 'Born On The Bayou' By Creedence Clearwater Revival 97 00:07:42,582 --> 00:07:46,542 # Oh, when I was just a little boy 98 00:07:46,622 --> 00:07:49,752 # Standin' to my daddy's knee... # 99 00:07:51,672 --> 00:07:53,781 Sutcliffe had gone out with his friend 100 00:07:53,861 --> 00:07:55,422 and they'd gone for a drive. 101 00:07:57,191 --> 00:08:00,462 He saw a woman who, either he believed was a prostitute 102 00:08:00,542 --> 00:08:02,191 or who was a prostitute. 103 00:08:09,262 --> 00:08:12,231 Sutcliffe attacked her from behind, 104 00:08:12,311 --> 00:08:15,782 with a stone in a sock and hit her about the head. 105 00:08:32,032 --> 00:08:35,672 A police constable saw the car, parked with the driver in, 106 00:08:35,752 --> 00:08:38,462 with the engine running and wondered why. 107 00:08:38,542 --> 00:08:40,782 So he went up to speak to the driver... 108 00:08:42,191 --> 00:08:44,592 ...and Sutcliffe roared off. 109 00:08:44,672 --> 00:08:47,422 He was found about a mile further down the road. 110 00:08:47,502 --> 00:08:49,502 The car was abandoned 111 00:08:49,582 --> 00:08:52,542 and Sutcliffe was found crouching behind a privet hedge 112 00:08:52,622 --> 00:08:54,292 with a hammer in his hand. 113 00:09:03,222 --> 00:09:05,422 There has never been an explanation 114 00:09:05,502 --> 00:09:09,822 of why he was only charged with the relatively minor offence 115 00:09:09,902 --> 00:09:12,422 of going equipped for stealing. 116 00:09:12,502 --> 00:09:14,752 Even in 1969, 117 00:09:14,832 --> 00:09:17,981 he should then have been flagged 118 00:09:18,061 --> 00:09:20,622 as someone who was a danger to women. 119 00:09:30,902 --> 00:09:34,231 Only three months after the murder of Wilma McCann, 120 00:09:34,311 --> 00:09:36,542 another woman nearby was killed. 121 00:09:36,622 --> 00:09:39,031 'A man on his way to work found the body 122 00:09:39,111 --> 00:09:41,901 'among the rubble of a demolition site in Manor Street, Roundhay.' 123 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:45,592 She was Emily Jackson. She was a mother in her 405. 124 00:09:45,672 --> 00:09:47,342 She'd worked all her life, 125 00:09:47,422 --> 00:09:49,542 but within, sort of, the last few months, 126 00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:51,781 her family had become very hard-up 127 00:09:51,861 --> 00:09:55,312 and as a result, Emily decided, very reluctantly, 128 00:09:55,392 --> 00:09:56,952 to go into prostitution. 129 00:09:57,032 --> 00:09:58,672 What were her injuries? 130 00:09:58,752 --> 00:10:01,781 She's had very severe head injuries. 131 00:10:01,861 --> 00:10:03,542 There are other injuries, 132 00:10:03,622 --> 00:10:06,422 which I don't wish to elaborate on at this time. 133 00:10:06,502 --> 00:10:08,182 She'd been attacked with a hammer 134 00:10:08,262 --> 00:10:10,462 and she'd also been stabbed 52 times. 135 00:10:10,542 --> 00:10:13,312 And because of the nature of the wounds, 136 00:10:13,392 --> 00:10:15,512 the pathologist immediately did link her murder 137 00:10:15,592 --> 00:10:17,142 to that of Wilma McCann. 138 00:10:21,502 --> 00:10:23,342 That's when the police came forward and said, 139 00:10:23,422 --> 00:10:27,582 "We are looking for a serial killer. One who preys on prostitutes." 140 00:10:31,311 --> 00:10:34,822 We are quite certain that this man hates prostitution. 141 00:10:34,902 --> 00:10:38,231 This even stretches to women who go in public houses 142 00:10:38,311 --> 00:10:39,981 and clubs of rather loose morals. 143 00:10:40,061 --> 00:10:41,921 They became wrapped up in this idea 144 00:10:42,001 --> 00:10:44,612 that they were hunting a modern-day jack the Ripper. 145 00:10:44,692 --> 00:10:47,082 'The police are looking for a psychopathic killer 146 00:10:47,162 --> 00:10:50,001 'with a pathological hatred of women he believes are prostitutes. 147 00:10:50,081 --> 00:10:52,522 'Those words strike me as the modern echo 148 00:10:52,602 --> 00:10:55,162 'of something that was written to the London newspapers 149 00:10:55,242 --> 00:10:56,892 'back in September 1888.' 150 00:10:56,972 --> 00:10:59,082 "I'm down on whores 151 00:10:59,162 --> 00:11:01,881 "and I shan't stop ripping them until I get buckled." 152 00:11:28,081 --> 00:11:31,131 Sonia had a sister who lived in West London 153 00:11:31,211 --> 00:11:34,802 and they would frequently go together to see her. 154 00:11:36,331 --> 00:11:38,412 Sometimes Sutcliffe would drop her off 155 00:11:38,492 --> 00:11:40,972 and return home to Bingley alone. 156 00:11:46,282 --> 00:11:49,251 # Strawberries, cherries 157 00:11:49,331 --> 00:11:53,801 # And an angel's kiss in spring 158 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:56,001 # My summer wine 159 00:11:56,081 --> 00:12:00,772 # Is really made From all these things... # 160 00:12:02,331 --> 00:12:04,412 Gloria was my first cousin. 161 00:12:04,492 --> 00:12:06,282 She was 14 years older than me. 162 00:12:06,362 --> 00:12:08,251 She was a very pretty girl. 163 00:12:08,331 --> 00:12:10,801 Very, very confident. 164 00:12:10,881 --> 00:12:13,581 When she walked in, she'd just light the whole room up. 165 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,001 She lived in Ealing. 166 00:12:16,081 --> 00:12:17,881 To supplement her wages, 167 00:12:17,961 --> 00:12:20,961 she worked as a barmaid in several West London public houses. 168 00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:25,202 The last time I recall seeing Gloria, 169 00:12:25,282 --> 00:12:27,772 I think I went across with Mum, just for an hour or so, 170 00:12:27,852 --> 00:12:29,442 a couple of hours maybe, maybe had lunch. 171 00:12:29,522 --> 00:12:30,922 Said goodbye. 172 00:12:39,951 --> 00:12:41,642 In the early hours of the morning, 173 00:12:41,722 --> 00:12:45,922 she appears to have walked beside or through Stonefield Park. 174 00:12:52,972 --> 00:12:57,442 Her body was found the next morning, partially stripped. 175 00:12:57,522 --> 00:12:59,802 It had been posed. 176 00:13:05,692 --> 00:13:08,642 When we're talking about the posing of a body, 177 00:13:08,722 --> 00:13:12,722 it's about removing clothing, it's about posturing a body. 178 00:13:12,802 --> 00:13:15,692 That can tell you something about the killer. 179 00:13:15,772 --> 00:13:18,772 It can be him getting some sort of gratification, 180 00:13:18,852 --> 00:13:22,412 some sexual gratification, from that body positioning. 181 00:13:25,492 --> 00:13:30,492 Posing was an integral part of Sutcliffe's signature. 182 00:13:31,562 --> 00:13:35,201 It's almost like a photofit of a killer's mind. 183 00:13:41,922 --> 00:13:44,562 Given that posing of itself 184 00:13:44,642 --> 00:13:48,001 is a really unusual characteristic in a murder... 185 00:13:48,081 --> 00:13:50,801 If, as a senior investigating officer, 186 00:13:50,881 --> 00:13:55,642 I'm at a crime scene and somebody else has got a murder 187 00:13:55,722 --> 00:13:59,842 where maybe that's the only characteristic that's the same, 188 00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:03,562 I would want to at least question 189 00:14:03,642 --> 00:14:05,881 whether those two murders were linked. 190 00:14:09,642 --> 00:14:12,881 There are 43 police forces in the UK. 191 00:14:14,201 --> 00:14:18,522 Linking inquires between forces in the '705 192 00:14:18,602 --> 00:14:20,892 was incredibly difficult. 193 00:14:20,972 --> 00:14:23,121 The best way to describe 194 00:14:23,201 --> 00:14:27,332 how police forces interacted in those years 195 00:14:27,412 --> 00:14:28,842 is that they didn't. 196 00:14:28,922 --> 00:14:31,001 West Yorkshire didn't talk to North Yorkshire, 197 00:14:31,081 --> 00:14:33,051 let alone the Met. 198 00:14:33,131 --> 00:14:36,801 You know, "It was my patch, I'll deal with this." 199 00:14:36,881 --> 00:14:38,612 You know, "Keep your nose out," almost. 200 00:14:38,692 --> 00:14:41,332 It was almost like an admission of failure 201 00:14:41,412 --> 00:14:43,242 that you were asking for help. 202 00:14:54,922 --> 00:14:57,082 My mum was very, very close to Gloria. 203 00:14:57,162 --> 00:14:58,692 I can't remember if she used the words, 204 00:14:58,772 --> 00:15:01,001 she'd been "murdered" or she'd just "died". 205 00:15:01,081 --> 00:15:02,921 I can't remember how Mum told me. 206 00:15:03,001 --> 00:15:04,772 I think I was shielded, 207 00:15:04,852 --> 00:15:07,202 being a bit vulnerable, 15 years old. 208 00:15:07,282 --> 00:15:09,121 Knowing I just saw someone not long ago 209 00:15:09,201 --> 00:15:11,562 and not gonna come and see us again. 210 00:15:11,642 --> 00:15:15,492 The atmosphere at home was tragic - very solemn, very quiet. 211 00:15:17,001 --> 00:15:19,642 There was a disbelief that she'd been murdered. 212 00:15:19,722 --> 00:15:22,162 You can't picture it in your mind. 213 00:15:22,242 --> 00:15:24,121 The long-term effects with the family 214 00:15:24,201 --> 00:15:25,871 is we don't like to talk about it. 215 00:15:25,951 --> 00:15:28,642 We've brushed it under the carpet, so to speak. 216 00:15:28,722 --> 00:15:30,692 Get on with life. Just leave it be. 217 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:12,412 It's a tremendous responsibility that's been placed upon me. 218 00:16:19,052 --> 00:16:21,892 'Jayne MacDonald had been to a disco in the centre of Leeds. 219 00:16:21,972 --> 00:16:23,612 'In the early hours of the morning 220 00:16:23,692 --> 00:16:26,251 'she left her boyfriend in town to make her own way home. 221 00:16:26,331 --> 00:16:29,051 'When she reached the children's adventure playground 222 00:16:29,131 --> 00:16:31,492 'in Reginald Terrace, the Ripper pounced.' 223 00:16:35,522 --> 00:16:38,332 Jayne was 16 years old. 224 00:16:38,412 --> 00:16:40,482 She came from a good family. 225 00:16:40,562 --> 00:16:42,082 And because of this, 226 00:16:42,162 --> 00:16:45,162 it was deemed that this man was now picking 227 00:16:45,242 --> 00:16:48,722 on what the police termed "innocent women". 228 00:16:48,802 --> 00:16:52,332 Unlike the previous four victims, Jayne was no prostitute. 229 00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,921 She lived at home and worked in a supermarket. 230 00:16:55,001 --> 00:16:58,842 But because she was walking home alone late at night in Chapeltown, 231 00:16:58,922 --> 00:17:02,322 police believe that the Ripper may have thought she was a prostitute. 232 00:17:13,602 --> 00:17:15,162 Will you catch him? 233 00:17:15,242 --> 00:17:17,362 I'm sure we shall. I'm sure we shall. 234 00:17:17,442 --> 00:17:21,362 The personality of a senior investigating officer 235 00:17:21,442 --> 00:17:24,772 is fundamental to the success of an inquiry. 236 00:17:25,852 --> 00:17:28,332 One of the key skills is objectivity. 237 00:17:28,412 --> 00:17:32,842 But you had a kind of belief in those senior officers 238 00:17:32,922 --> 00:17:37,921 about what they believed were the motivations of this killer. 239 00:17:38,001 --> 00:17:40,131 We think it was a mistake that... 240 00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:45,842 ...he attacked Jayne MacDonald. 241 00:17:45,922 --> 00:17:50,892 Describing Jayne MacDonald as a mistake was a low point. 242 00:17:50,972 --> 00:17:55,522 As though everything else before Jayne MacDonald's killing... 243 00:17:56,562 --> 00:17:59,612 ...was perfectly fine and reasonable. 244 00:17:59,692 --> 00:18:04,402 The police believed he's got this crusade against prostitutes. 245 00:18:04,482 --> 00:18:09,091 And you close your mind to any other kind of enquiry. 246 00:18:10,882 --> 00:18:15,042 For them, every killing, every attack 247 00:18:15,122 --> 00:18:18,292 which fell outside those narrow parameters 248 00:18:18,372 --> 00:18:22,372 by definition could not be 249 00:18:22,452 --> 00:18:25,522 a Yorkshire Ripper attack or killing. 250 00:18:46,301 --> 00:18:48,301 She said she was going out 251 00:18:48,381 --> 00:18:49,992 for a ride on her bike to her sister's. 252 00:18:50,072 --> 00:18:52,351 That was a normal practice, to go for a ride 253 00:18:52,431 --> 00:18:56,352 along the lane, which you can, in fact, see from your home. Yeah. 254 00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:04,551 Lance Corporal Trevor Steele, you found the body. 255 00:19:04,631 --> 00:19:06,062 How did you come across it? 256 00:19:06,142 --> 00:19:08,582 I saw a pile of privet hedge cuttings 257 00:19:08,662 --> 00:19:11,712 on the floor, just underneath the hedgerow... 258 00:19:12,942 --> 00:19:15,551 ...and I saw this little piece of blue quilt 259 00:19:15,631 --> 00:19:17,351 just sticking out the top. 260 00:19:17,431 --> 00:19:22,022 So I lifted the piece of blue quilt up 261 00:19:22,102 --> 00:19:24,301 and saw the body. 262 00:19:32,631 --> 00:19:35,142 Judith's top clothing had been pulled upwards 263 00:19:35,222 --> 00:19:37,632 and she was naked from the waist down. 264 00:19:37,712 --> 00:19:40,912 Some of her clothing was laid neatly underneath her body 265 00:19:40,992 --> 00:19:42,712 when it was retrieved 266 00:19:42,792 --> 00:19:46,912 and she was covered with grass clippings, 267 00:19:46,992 --> 00:19:49,551 some plastic fertiliser sacks 268 00:19:49,631 --> 00:19:53,072 and a sheet of corrugated asbestos. 269 00:19:58,942 --> 00:20:00,712 The whole team is confident 270 00:20:00,792 --> 00:20:04,072 that an arrest will be made before this inquiry finishes. 271 00:20:06,992 --> 00:20:09,892 Andrew Evans was 17. 272 00:20:10,942 --> 00:20:14,351 He was a very unsuccessful soldier 273 00:20:14,431 --> 00:20:17,022 and was just about to be discharged, in fact. 274 00:20:19,222 --> 00:20:22,582 He turns up at the police station in Tamworth 275 00:20:22,662 --> 00:20:25,142 to volunteer himself as a potential suspect 276 00:20:25,222 --> 00:20:27,101 for the murder of Judith Roberts. 277 00:20:27,181 --> 00:20:33,101 Having seen the news coverage for many, many weeks and says, 278 00:20:33,181 --> 00:20:36,281 "I don't know, I think I may have had something to do with it." 279 00:20:38,631 --> 00:20:41,272 At the end of 72 hours, 280 00:20:41,352 --> 00:20:45,072 a confession has been obtained from him. 281 00:20:48,532 --> 00:20:51,382 He didn't write that confession. 282 00:20:51,462 --> 00:20:53,142 Andrew was illiterate. 283 00:20:53,222 --> 00:20:55,992 He couldn't have written that confession. 284 00:20:56,072 --> 00:20:59,062 At the time, it wasn't uncommon 285 00:20:59,142 --> 00:21:03,272 for police officers to write a witness's statement 286 00:21:03,352 --> 00:21:05,662 and get him or her to sign them. 287 00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:07,662 And that's what they did. 288 00:21:07,742 --> 00:21:10,551 The only real lead the police had to go on 289 00:21:10,631 --> 00:21:12,742 was a thumb print on her bike. 290 00:21:12,822 --> 00:21:14,501 It wasn't Andrew's. 291 00:21:28,272 --> 00:21:30,992 Andrew spent more than two decades in prison 292 00:21:31,072 --> 00:21:33,551 before, ultimately, 293 00:21:33,631 --> 00:21:36,662 that conviction was quashed and he was released. 294 00:21:50,862 --> 00:21:53,862 The characteristics of Judith's murder, 295 00:21:53,942 --> 00:21:56,702 which match those of Jayne MacDonald 296 00:21:56,782 --> 00:21:59,101 and Sutcliffe's other victims, 297 00:21:59,181 --> 00:22:00,942 are really striking. 298 00:22:01,022 --> 00:22:02,421 The attack to the back of the head. 299 00:22:02,501 --> 00:22:06,632 Huge force, blunt instrument smashing in the skull. 300 00:22:06,712 --> 00:22:08,812 The posing of the body. 301 00:22:08,892 --> 00:22:12,142 The fact that it was partially naked. 302 00:22:12,222 --> 00:22:16,502 All of that matches what Sutcliffe is proven 303 00:22:16,582 --> 00:22:19,381 to have done and done repeatedly. 304 00:22:20,462 --> 00:22:23,942 Andrew Evans' conviction for the murder of Judith Roberts 305 00:22:24,022 --> 00:22:26,221 was a miscarriage of justice. 306 00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:30,022 It would not be the last miscarriage of justice 307 00:22:30,102 --> 00:22:31,782 in the Yorkshire Ripper saga. 308 00:22:42,222 --> 00:22:45,431 # Goodbye to you, my trusted friend 309 00:22:47,181 --> 00:22:51,181 # We've known each other Since we were nine or ten 310 00:22:52,272 --> 00:22:55,431 # Together we've climbed Hills and trees... # 311 00:22:56,942 --> 00:22:58,942 Carolyn was my nanny. 312 00:22:59,022 --> 00:23:01,572 My parents employed her to come and take care of me. 313 00:23:03,022 --> 00:23:05,101 She was a very pleasant girl. 314 00:23:05,181 --> 00:23:08,582 Very balanced. Very easy-going. 315 00:23:13,462 --> 00:23:15,582 The final day we spent together, 316 00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:19,142 in the afternoon, we played some football 317 00:23:19,222 --> 00:23:21,192 and we then went for a walk. 318 00:23:21,272 --> 00:23:23,431 And then we headed back... 319 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:27,272 ...and we had a race up the driveway, 320 00:23:27,352 --> 00:23:30,502 to see who could get to the front door first. I won. 321 00:23:30,582 --> 00:23:34,782 My mother came home. Carolyn said her goodbyes. 322 00:23:34,862 --> 00:23:36,862 She ran down the driveway, 323 00:23:36,942 --> 00:23:39,272 like she had to catch a bus or something. 324 00:23:42,181 --> 00:23:45,301 Her father rang up close to 12 o'clock, 325 00:23:45,381 --> 00:23:47,381 wondering where his daughter was. 326 00:23:49,272 --> 00:23:54,452 Basically, Carolyn disappeared from the face of the Earth. 327 00:24:01,712 --> 00:24:05,272 Carolyn Allen was 17 when she went missing some 20 months ago. 328 00:24:05,352 --> 00:24:07,192 She had been babysitting at Bramcote, 329 00:24:07,272 --> 00:24:09,272 just south-west of Nottingham, 330 00:24:09,352 --> 00:24:12,551 and left late at night to catch her bus home at Kinoulton, 331 00:24:12,631 --> 00:24:14,192 which is 15 miles away. 332 00:24:14,272 --> 00:24:16,812 Police now suspect that, instead of catching that bus, 333 00:24:16,892 --> 00:24:18,632 she was probably given a lift. 334 00:24:18,712 --> 00:24:21,502 A lift which came to an abrupt end at this spot. 335 00:24:21,582 --> 00:24:27,301 Her skeletal remains were found in Old Dalby Wood, 336 00:24:27,381 --> 00:24:29,582 close to Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire. 337 00:24:33,582 --> 00:24:37,742 She had been out in the elements for all that time. 338 00:24:39,181 --> 00:24:41,142 It was very difficult 339 00:24:41,222 --> 00:24:45,221 to determine a precise cause of death as a result. 340 00:24:45,301 --> 00:24:47,862 But what the pathologist's report showed 341 00:24:47,942 --> 00:24:51,272 is that Carolyn had been hit 342 00:24:51,352 --> 00:24:54,892 over the back of the head with a blunt object. 343 00:24:56,072 --> 00:24:59,251 The police believed her jeans had been removed. 344 00:25:04,181 --> 00:25:09,192 Just a few days before Carolyn's murder, 345 00:25:09,272 --> 00:25:13,272 Sutcliffe's sister gave birth to Sutcliffe's nephew. 346 00:25:14,301 --> 00:25:16,662 He'd visited that family. 347 00:25:18,462 --> 00:25:22,351 The road he would've travelled, from his home in Bingley, 348 00:25:22,431 --> 00:25:24,221 would take him past 349 00:25:24,301 --> 00:25:28,862 almost exactly the spot where Carolyn was killed. 350 00:26:01,301 --> 00:26:02,992 Incident room at Millgarth. Can I help? 351 00:26:03,072 --> 00:26:06,942 Could you possibly find from your friend the name of this gentleman? 352 00:26:07,022 --> 00:26:08,582 We just don't have the manpower to do it. 353 00:26:08,662 --> 00:26:11,221 It puts a great strain on the investigators, 354 00:26:11,301 --> 00:26:13,951 a great strain on the men who have to work extra time. 355 00:26:14,992 --> 00:26:16,742 But there is no lowering of morale. 356 00:26:16,822 --> 00:26:19,101 They're absolutely determined they're going to get him. 357 00:26:19,181 --> 00:26:22,742 We have worked something in the order of a million man-hours. 358 00:26:22,822 --> 00:26:26,452 This is pre—computerisation. 359 00:26:26,532 --> 00:26:29,022 Murder rooms, murder squads, murder inquiries 360 00:26:29,102 --> 00:26:31,382 were run on card index systems. 361 00:26:31,462 --> 00:26:36,221 And the card indexes were fallible. They were vulnerable. 362 00:26:36,301 --> 00:26:39,942 It was almost inevitable that there would be a loss of intelligence 363 00:26:40,022 --> 00:26:42,142 and a loss of information. 364 00:26:42,222 --> 00:26:44,742 And the idea, then, that you could take one card system 365 00:26:44,822 --> 00:26:48,351 from one inquiry and integrate it with another 366 00:26:48,431 --> 00:26:49,992 was almost impossible. 367 00:26:50,072 --> 00:26:52,272 Well, one thing is certain - we shall not give up. 368 00:26:52,352 --> 00:26:54,452 We shall pursue this inquiry 369 00:26:54,532 --> 00:26:57,822 with all our strength and all our facilities. 370 00:27:35,292 --> 00:27:37,241 'The Ripper came at his next victim 371 00:27:37,321 --> 00:27:40,482 '60 miles away, across the Pennines, in Manchester.' 372 00:27:53,092 --> 00:27:55,802 There was two of us. There was me and an older bloke. 373 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:58,882 We got the chance to get an allotment, which we did. 374 00:27:58,962 --> 00:28:02,082 We needed a shed, so we managed to acquire this big shed, 375 00:28:02,162 --> 00:28:03,852 but it needed a brick base. 376 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,292 "I'll go and get the bricks for the base." 377 00:28:06,372 --> 00:28:08,292 And it was on the way there. 378 00:28:08,372 --> 00:28:10,802 Five times I'd gone, filled the barrow, come back. 379 00:28:10,882 --> 00:28:13,682 And the sixth time I come across this body. 380 00:28:17,732 --> 00:28:19,652 My mate come running up. He couldn't look at it. 381 00:28:19,732 --> 00:28:22,651 He just had to... I mean, he just started being ill. 382 00:28:25,602 --> 00:28:29,522 Jean Jordan was a young mother, only in her early 205. 383 00:28:29,602 --> 00:28:33,292 She'd come down from Scotland to live in Manchester. 384 00:28:33,372 --> 00:28:37,292 She was working as a sex worker. 385 00:28:38,401 --> 00:28:42,552 She was picked up and was very, very brutally attacked. 386 00:28:50,401 --> 00:28:53,082 'A post—mortem showed that days after the murder, 387 00:28:53,162 --> 00:28:57,002 'the killer had returned to mutilate Jean Jordan's body still further 388 00:28:57,082 --> 00:28:59,191 'and drag it to a more open position.' 389 00:29:04,122 --> 00:29:08,652 Realising that the police might be able to trace this note back to him, 390 00:29:08,732 --> 00:29:13,682 he'd actually gone back to the body and tried to find the £5. 391 00:29:13,762 --> 00:29:15,361 When he couldn't find it, 392 00:29:15,441 --> 00:29:18,361 he attacked her already lifeless body 393 00:29:18,441 --> 00:29:21,482 in just a very, very brutal way. 394 00:29:22,962 --> 00:29:24,401 I ran across the main road. 395 00:29:26,552 --> 00:29:28,042 I rung 999. 396 00:29:29,082 --> 00:29:30,832 I got back to the allotment. 397 00:29:30,912 --> 00:29:32,882 I thought, "What do I do? Do I go? Do I stay?" 398 00:29:32,962 --> 00:29:35,612 The next minute - I've never seen so many police cars. 399 00:29:46,292 --> 00:29:49,651 I used to work with Carol at Almond's Bakery. 400 00:29:51,321 --> 00:29:53,651 She loved clothes, she loved fashion. 401 00:29:54,962 --> 00:29:58,802 She used to love David Essex. Mind you, we all did. 402 00:29:58,882 --> 00:30:01,752 His single, Gonna Make You A Star, was out at the time 403 00:30:01,832 --> 00:30:03,722 and it got to number one. 404 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:07,111 # Star, yeah... # 405 00:30:07,191 --> 00:30:10,241 And when that came on, she used to be sat there singing it. 406 00:30:10,321 --> 00:30:12,042 # He's into his music 407 00:30:12,122 --> 00:30:14,042 # But I don't believe it... # 408 00:30:17,082 --> 00:30:21,241 Sutcliffe asked to go out with Carol and was rebuffed. 409 00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:24,882 Carol's dad had argued with Sutcliffe 410 00:30:24,962 --> 00:30:29,111 and Sutcliffe had not just been seen hanging around on the estate, 411 00:30:29,191 --> 00:30:33,962 he'd been reported to the police for loitering on the estate. 412 00:30:41,882 --> 00:30:46,002 She used to take the route on the disused railway. 413 00:30:46,082 --> 00:30:48,002 It was known as "the walk". 414 00:30:48,082 --> 00:30:53,571 I know it led out to the hospital at the back of the bakery. 415 00:30:57,651 --> 00:31:01,882 A cook from the hospital was coming on to work 416 00:31:01,962 --> 00:31:06,441 and what he thought was a load of rags in the field, 417 00:31:06,521 --> 00:31:09,602 until he got near and he could hear moaning. 418 00:31:09,682 --> 00:31:12,122 And when he looked, it was Carol. 419 00:31:17,882 --> 00:31:22,372 Carol's skull was fragmented in about 17 different places. 420 00:31:27,242 --> 00:31:30,082 'Carol was taken to Braford Royal Infirmary on Monday morning 421 00:31:30,162 --> 00:31:33,292 'and immediately linked to a life support system.' 422 00:31:41,441 --> 00:31:43,752 They asked me if I'd been to Yorkshire. 423 00:31:43,832 --> 00:31:45,962 I couldn't remember if I'd been to Yorkshire or not. 424 00:31:46,042 --> 00:31:48,802 Where was I in Manchester on such and such a date. 425 00:31:48,882 --> 00:31:50,682 I didn't know. 426 00:31:50,762 --> 00:31:56,522 Why I had a hammer and big chisel and lump hammer in my wheelbarrow. 427 00:31:56,602 --> 00:32:00,292 That was to break the bricks up I needed for the base of the shed. 428 00:32:01,372 --> 00:32:03,722 Your mind does play tricks on you. It's like, "Where was I? 429 00:32:03,802 --> 00:32:06,162 "Had I been to Yorkshire? No, never been to Yorkshire." 430 00:32:06,242 --> 00:32:08,571 Your mind is going faster than you can think. 431 00:32:08,651 --> 00:32:10,602 "No. No, no. I wasn't there. I wasn't there. 432 00:32:10,682 --> 00:32:13,012 "No, no, never been there. Never been there." 433 00:32:14,651 --> 00:32:18,111 And in the end, they come in and tell you, 434 00:32:18,191 --> 00:32:21,401 "Get dressed and we'll run you home," and that was it. 435 00:32:33,521 --> 00:32:38,472 I think at this time, the pressure on this murder investigation 436 00:32:38,552 --> 00:32:40,832 was already enormous. 437 00:32:40,912 --> 00:32:44,802 We find ourselves, sometimes, being totally stretched. 438 00:32:44,882 --> 00:32:46,682 It was crushing the West Yorkshire Police, 439 00:32:46,762 --> 00:32:48,722 there's no doubt about that. 440 00:32:48,802 --> 00:32:50,472 To say that he's end of his tether... 441 00:32:50,552 --> 00:32:52,361 Well, no, but perhaps with... 442 00:32:52,441 --> 00:32:56,162 The police were feeding a huge amount of resources 443 00:32:56,242 --> 00:32:59,082 and time and money into the case. 444 00:32:59,162 --> 00:33:00,932 It's not going to be easy. 445 00:33:01,012 --> 00:33:03,882 We're gonna have to keep slogging, knocking at doors, asking questions. 446 00:33:03,962 --> 00:33:06,162 But it's got to be done if we're going to crack this one. 447 00:33:06,242 --> 00:33:08,752 And the fact that so much money had gone into it, 448 00:33:08,832 --> 00:33:11,402 with so very little result, 449 00:33:11,482 --> 00:33:13,162 was something that was picked up 450 00:33:13,242 --> 00:33:15,802 in the newspapers and also by the public. 451 00:33:28,242 --> 00:33:33,241 We have established that it went to one of three banks 452 00:33:33,321 --> 00:33:37,082 in the Bradford, Shipley and Bingley area. 453 00:33:37,162 --> 00:33:39,932 And it's here where we are now concentrating our enquiries. 454 00:33:40,012 --> 00:33:44,962 When the £5 note was then linked to Bradford, at that point, 455 00:33:45,042 --> 00:33:47,241 taking into account her injuries 456 00:33:47,321 --> 00:33:49,932 and the fact that she'd worked as a prostitute, 457 00:33:50,012 --> 00:33:51,722 the police said, 458 00:33:51,802 --> 00:33:55,732 "Yes, this woman is also another victim of our Ripper." 459 00:34:09,832 --> 00:34:14,441 We can narrow our inquiry down to one particular factory. 460 00:34:18,682 --> 00:34:20,522 12 officers came down and went through our firm. 461 00:34:20,602 --> 00:34:22,002 Went through everybody. 462 00:34:22,082 --> 00:34:23,932 It was quite in depth. They really went into it. 463 00:34:24,012 --> 00:34:26,441 I mean, I was quite joking about it 464 00:34:26,521 --> 00:34:29,162 and they soon told me how serious it was. 465 00:34:41,832 --> 00:34:45,042 But the support system, described as a sophisticated pump, 466 00:34:45,122 --> 00:34:48,082 kept the lungs ventilated and, therefore, the heart working 467 00:34:48,162 --> 00:34:51,602 before tests confirmed there was no more brain activity. 468 00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:57,802 I was busy making tea for myself and my husband... 469 00:34:58,832 --> 00:35:01,402 ...and he came in from work 470 00:35:01,482 --> 00:35:04,111 and he just looked at me, he said, "Have you heard?" 471 00:35:04,191 --> 00:35:05,882 He said, "About Carol." 472 00:35:07,242 --> 00:35:11,361 And he just looked at me and I realised. 473 00:35:11,441 --> 00:35:13,802 I said, "Don't tell me she's dead." 474 00:35:18,472 --> 00:35:21,111 When you look at the murder of Carol Wilkinson, 475 00:35:21,191 --> 00:35:23,651 geographically, it's in the right place. 476 00:35:24,932 --> 00:35:29,522 The night before, Sutcliffe had been in Manchester. 477 00:35:29,602 --> 00:35:34,241 He'd been to move and desecrate the body of Jean Jordan 478 00:35:34,321 --> 00:35:37,441 and had come back home. 479 00:35:39,162 --> 00:35:43,111 She is attacked from behind, 480 00:35:43,191 --> 00:35:47,372 the body was posed, the underwear was adjusted. 481 00:35:52,162 --> 00:35:55,682 The police refused to accept 482 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:59,441 that Carol could have been a Ripper victim, 483 00:35:59,521 --> 00:36:04,111 on the grounds that what she had been hit with was a stone. 484 00:36:04,191 --> 00:36:07,242 In their mind, he only used a hammer. 485 00:36:18,682 --> 00:36:21,752 'Yvonne Pearson was found on wasteland in Bradford. 486 00:36:21,832 --> 00:36:24,802 'As police began the painstaking search for clues, 487 00:36:24,882 --> 00:36:26,472 'appeals for information went out.' 488 00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:28,162 She didn't care less 489 00:36:28,242 --> 00:36:30,361 what people thought of her in the street or nothing. 490 00:36:30,441 --> 00:36:32,212 She only thought of herself and her kids. 491 00:36:32,292 --> 00:36:35,111 She thought a lot of her children? Yeah. Too much. 492 00:36:35,191 --> 00:36:36,722 What do you mean, too much? 493 00:36:36,802 --> 00:36:39,321 Well, let's put it this way - she went out on the game 494 00:36:39,401 --> 00:36:42,111 so she'd have enough food and enough clothes for them. 495 00:36:42,191 --> 00:36:44,752 That was the reason why she kept going out? 496 00:36:44,832 --> 00:36:46,522 Yeah, only reason. 497 00:36:46,602 --> 00:36:48,392 She didn't do it for anything else anyway. 498 00:36:48,472 --> 00:36:50,962 'Yvonne Pearson, who had been missing for two months, 499 00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:53,832 'could be identified only through her fingerprints. 500 00:37:01,162 --> 00:37:04,241 Although Yvonne Pearson had all the hallmarks of being a victim 501 00:37:04,321 --> 00:37:06,852 of the man they were calling the Yorkshire Ripper, 502 00:37:06,932 --> 00:37:11,642 because her head injuries were caused by a heavy object, a stone, 503 00:37:11,722 --> 00:37:15,372 initially she was disregarded as a victim. 504 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:32,212 Hindsight is a great thing. 505 00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:36,962 And I look at the murder of Carol Wilkinson now 506 00:37:37,042 --> 00:37:41,722 and I ask myself, "Why was this not part of the enquiry?" 507 00:37:41,802 --> 00:37:46,082 I would have looked to see why it was ruled out, not ruled in. 508 00:37:48,292 --> 00:37:51,932 If you're West Yorkshire Police, it's right in your face. 509 00:37:52,012 --> 00:37:55,082 It's his home turf, it's your doorstep. 510 00:37:56,122 --> 00:37:58,321 They put the blinders on 511 00:37:58,401 --> 00:38:02,522 and, therefore, a young man will spend decades in prison 512 00:38:02,602 --> 00:38:05,882 for a crime he simply didn't commit. 513 00:38:20,364 --> 00:38:22,645 We were very close. 514 00:38:22,725 --> 00:38:25,755 I were at his house most days. Well, every day, I would say. 515 00:38:26,855 --> 00:38:29,135 I spent a lot of time with his children. 516 00:38:29,215 --> 00:38:30,955 Used to love taking them out 517 00:38:31,035 --> 00:38:33,785 and looking after them and playing with them and things. 518 00:38:34,444 --> 00:38:37,085 Yeah, I spent a lot of time with him, a lot of time. 519 00:38:39,114 --> 00:38:41,565 He was a bit of a... 520 00:38:41,645 --> 00:38:44,475 Wheeler dealer. Yeah, wheeler dealer. 521 00:38:46,085 --> 00:38:48,215 Would come in with old radios and mend 'em. 522 00:38:53,525 --> 00:38:56,725 I knew her, sort of, to see on t'estate, 523 00:38:56,805 --> 00:38:58,494 maybe going to t'shop or something, 524 00:38:58,574 --> 00:39:01,624 but didn't speak to her or anything, didn't know her that way. 525 00:39:02,525 --> 00:39:05,525 It were going round t'estate that somebody had been murdered. 526 00:39:06,215 --> 00:39:08,925 At that time, there were police officers all over the place 527 00:39:09,005 --> 00:39:10,675 that were coming, doing door-to-door, 528 00:39:10,755 --> 00:39:12,885 just asking people questions. 529 00:39:32,605 --> 00:39:34,605 They had quite a rough relationship. 530 00:39:34,685 --> 00:39:36,805 They were always falling out and arguing and things. 531 00:39:36,885 --> 00:39:39,805 He were going backwards and forwards to his other partner, 532 00:39:39,885 --> 00:39:42,005 which probably didn't help. 533 00:39:42,085 --> 00:39:44,725 His wife's mother informed the police, 534 00:39:44,805 --> 00:39:46,935 "I think he's murdered Carol Wilkinson." 535 00:39:48,285 --> 00:39:51,035 And I still have no idea why. 536 00:39:57,215 --> 00:40:00,135 She kept accusing him that he'd done this murder. 537 00:40:00,215 --> 00:40:02,955 And he were going to say that he hadn't done this murder. 538 00:40:03,035 --> 00:40:06,244 "Can you tell her to stop making accusations?" 539 00:40:13,215 --> 00:40:17,805 Here you have a young man who goes into the police, 540 00:40:17,885 --> 00:40:20,395 who's taken in into custody 541 00:40:20,475 --> 00:40:25,885 and questioned roughly and rigorously. 542 00:40:27,114 --> 00:40:30,605 They just went on and on and on at him 543 00:40:30,685 --> 00:40:32,775 and put words into his mouth. 544 00:40:32,855 --> 00:40:34,395 "You did this, didn't you? 545 00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,215 "You went that way, didn't you?" 546 00:40:37,605 --> 00:40:40,005 As he were just about to fall asleep, 547 00:40:40,085 --> 00:40:41,855 they overturned his mattress 548 00:40:41,935 --> 00:40:45,805 and sat on the mattress and he couldn't breathe. 549 00:40:47,165 --> 00:40:49,605 So he were absolutely petrified. 550 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:58,034 In the end up, he just said, "I did. Yeah, I did." 551 00:40:58,114 --> 00:41:02,085 And whatever they said, he agreed to and they wrote it down 552 00:41:02,165 --> 00:41:04,475 and got him to sign at the end of it. 553 00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:09,725 Not his words, their words. 554 00:41:16,725 --> 00:41:19,925 We went to see him - there was me, my mum and my dad - 555 00:41:20,005 --> 00:41:22,955 more or less after he'd done his confession. 556 00:41:23,035 --> 00:41:27,645 And we went in and he was an absolute wreck. 557 00:41:27,725 --> 00:41:31,395 And I mean wreck. He were shaking, he was gaunt. 558 00:41:31,475 --> 00:41:34,885 He was drip white. He looked horrific. 559 00:41:34,965 --> 00:41:37,284 And he just says to my dad, "I didn't to it. 560 00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:39,364 "Dad, I haven't done it. I didn't do it." 561 00:41:40,244 --> 00:41:43,885 My dad says to him, "Why did you say you've done it?" 562 00:41:43,965 --> 00:41:46,805 And he said, "If I said I'd done it, I'd get a solicitor. 563 00:41:46,885 --> 00:41:49,085 "He told me I can have a solicitor." 564 00:42:06,965 --> 00:42:11,135 When Detective Chief Superintendent Hobson was told 565 00:42:11,215 --> 00:42:13,315 that they'd got a confession, 566 00:42:13,395 --> 00:42:17,855 Mr Hobson must have thought, "What is that?" 567 00:42:17,935 --> 00:42:22,445 There's no detail at all in that confession. 568 00:42:22,525 --> 00:42:24,135 The only detail there is 569 00:42:24,215 --> 00:42:27,015 is what the police have told him they think has happened. 570 00:42:42,885 --> 00:42:47,055 The judge said that he would accept a majority of ten to two. 571 00:42:47,135 --> 00:42:51,284 Bearing in mind, I think this were 23rd December, 572 00:42:51,364 --> 00:42:55,315 so it's, sort of, running up to Christmas. 573 00:42:55,395 --> 00:42:57,855 So, obviously, they wanted to get 574 00:42:57,935 --> 00:43:00,244 the verdict sorted and finished with, 575 00:43:00,324 --> 00:43:02,955 otherwise they could have ended up staying in a hotel 576 00:43:03,035 --> 00:43:04,805 over the Christmas period. 577 00:43:11,035 --> 00:43:13,444 And when they announced guilty... 578 00:43:15,035 --> 00:43:17,284 ...we nearly fainted. 579 00:43:17,364 --> 00:43:18,884 Literally, nearly fainted. 580 00:43:18,964 --> 00:43:22,634 We were just absolutely in shock. 581 00:43:24,844 --> 00:43:28,554 Carol's mother says to your mother, didn't she, 582 00:43:28,634 --> 00:43:31,323 after the trial, "He can't have done it." 583 00:43:33,484 --> 00:43:37,634 There was no evidence against him. 584 00:43:37,714 --> 00:43:40,714 No forensic evidence which could connect him. 585 00:43:42,884 --> 00:43:45,094 It just didn't make sense. 586 00:43:45,174 --> 00:43:49,484 And I think that they realised that as well. You know? 587 00:43:51,323 --> 00:43:53,453 I mean, we were sat there, 588 00:43:53,533 --> 00:43:57,283 praying and hoping that Anthony were gonna get proved innocent. 589 00:43:58,323 --> 00:43:59,964 And their daughter were dead. 590 00:44:01,044 --> 00:44:03,294 You know, so, nobody won, did they, in th'end? 591 00:44:17,484 --> 00:44:19,964 Carol Wilkinson's murder 592 00:44:20,044 --> 00:44:21,964 should have been considered 593 00:44:22,044 --> 00:44:25,453 as a potential Yorkshire Ripper killing. 594 00:44:26,924 --> 00:44:31,094 There's a pattern of wrongful convictions, 595 00:44:31,174 --> 00:44:34,274 in which someone was sent to prison for an attack 596 00:44:34,354 --> 00:44:38,964 which Sutcliffe should have been considered a prime suspect. 597 00:44:50,764 --> 00:44:52,453 'I'm Jack.' 598 00:44:52,533 --> 00:44:55,554 The way the investigation got completely derailed 599 00:44:55,634 --> 00:44:57,764 is one of the strangest things. 600 00:44:57,844 --> 00:45:00,484 'I see you are still having no luck catching me.' 601 00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:02,734 There was not a shred of evidence 602 00:45:02,814 --> 00:45:05,564 that legitimised the direction of that enquiry. 603 00:45:09,994 --> 00:45:11,884 The police arrived. 604 00:45:11,964 --> 00:45:14,634 I says, "I've got blood on my hands, can I go and wash them?" 605 00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:18,044 Little did I know that at the time, they suspected me. 606 00:45:51,714 --> 00:45:53,714 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 49497

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