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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,668 --> 00:00:02,668 (narrator) On the eve of the '80s, 2 00:00:03,745 --> 00:00:05,170 a decade after cancelation, 3 00:00:05,255 --> 00:00:07,339 "Star Trek" was back. 4 00:00:07,424 --> 00:00:10,342 The motion picture had successfully relaunched 5 00:00:10,427 --> 00:00:12,845 the franchise, taking more than three times its budget 6 00:00:12,929 --> 00:00:14,263 at the box office. 7 00:00:14,347 --> 00:00:15,681 - I could never believe that. 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,686 - Well, despite earning $139 million worldwide, 9 00:00:20,845 --> 00:00:23,439 a sequel to the original motion picture 10 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:26,525 was anything but a certainty. 11 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:29,436 So beam aboard and hold on tight 12 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:33,157 as we boldly go into the depths of "Star Trek". 13 00:00:35,610 --> 00:00:39,830 And you can see it all from here in "The Center Seat." 14 00:00:44,786 --> 00:00:48,380 Despite having made millions and the studio's desire to make 15 00:00:48,465 --> 00:00:51,300 a follow up to "Star Trek: The Motion Picture", 16 00:00:51,384 --> 00:00:52,876 there were still issues. 17 00:00:52,969 --> 00:00:56,129 - By that time, the perception was 18 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:58,891 despite its financial success, which you would think 19 00:00:58,975 --> 00:01:02,061 would be enough, it just didn't do what they wanted it to do. 20 00:01:02,145 --> 00:01:05,397 - "They" being the studio, and they didn't like 21 00:01:05,556 --> 00:01:07,557 how the motion picture had been made. 22 00:01:07,642 --> 00:01:10,477 - The lack of discipline during production was legendary, 23 00:01:10,561 --> 00:01:12,905 (narrator) But the studio had a solution. 24 00:01:12,989 --> 00:01:14,981 - We're gonna make this picture and it's gonna be done 25 00:01:15,066 --> 00:01:17,242 out of the eyes of the television division. 26 00:01:17,401 --> 00:01:20,070 ♪ 27 00:01:20,154 --> 00:01:21,822 Thinking being obviously that folks in television 28 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:23,749 know how to do things cheaper. 29 00:01:23,908 --> 00:01:25,408 - You didn't need to tell "Star Trek" creator 30 00:01:25,493 --> 00:01:27,336 Gene Roddenberry twice. 31 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:29,588 A TV guy through and through, 32 00:01:29,747 --> 00:01:32,165 he cranked out the script in no time. 33 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:34,343 - Which was the crew of the Enterprise being involved 34 00:01:34,502 --> 00:01:36,512 in the assassination of JFK 35 00:01:36,671 --> 00:01:37,838 and sort of writing history. 36 00:01:37,922 --> 00:01:40,432 - And Paramount wrote back immediately. 37 00:01:40,591 --> 00:01:41,758 - They were rejected it with a form letter. 38 00:01:41,851 --> 00:01:43,435 "Thank you for making the submission, 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,761 it's not what we're looking for." 40 00:01:44,846 --> 00:01:46,688 And this is going to Gene Roddenberry. 41 00:01:46,848 --> 00:01:50,025 - Paramount had adopted a less is more approach to Roddenberry. 42 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,018 - They didn't wanna deal with him. 43 00:01:52,103 --> 00:01:55,614 - No one did. His last writer had only one message for him. 44 00:01:55,773 --> 00:01:58,024 - Don't ever touch my script, you bastard! 45 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:02,445 He wouldn't stop rewriting. He was just maniacal about it. 46 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:04,447 - Years of creative interference 47 00:02:04,532 --> 00:02:06,700 had burned too many bridges with Paramount. 48 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:10,120 - When "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" got mixed reviews, 49 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:12,881 and because the budget went so far over, 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,384 even though that had nothing to do with Gene Roddenberry at all, 51 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:17,970 Paramount used that as an excuse 52 00:02:18,129 --> 00:02:20,380 to take "Star Trek" away from Gene Roddenberry. 53 00:02:20,473 --> 00:02:23,216 - And he was demoted. 54 00:02:23,301 --> 00:02:25,894 (narrator) You could say Gene was his own worst enemy, 55 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,729 but there's a theory that explains 56 00:02:27,814 --> 00:02:29,982 complicated characters like him. 57 00:02:30,141 --> 00:02:34,227 - Did you ever hear of the Moses Joshua Theory of Creation? 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,406 - It's the idea that some creative types are like Moses. 59 00:02:37,565 --> 00:02:40,817 - They bring into existence 60 00:02:40,902 --> 00:02:43,153 something that wasn't there before. 61 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:46,823 - But like Moses himself they lack certain managerial skills, 62 00:02:46,908 --> 00:02:48,909 needing organized types like Joshua. 63 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:51,578 - As a can-do person. 64 00:02:51,662 --> 00:02:53,079 - That is brilliant. 65 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:54,923 Gene led us through the desert for 40 years. 66 00:02:55,008 --> 00:02:57,009 Yeah, but he couldn't deliver. 67 00:02:57,168 --> 00:03:00,170 - But Gene wasn't entirely banished from the Promised Land. 68 00:03:00,254 --> 00:03:04,850 - He was given the courtesy of a tiny little office. 69 00:03:05,009 --> 00:03:08,428 - They gave him a new contract that said that he would be 70 00:03:08,512 --> 00:03:10,847 a very well paid script consultant. 71 00:03:10,932 --> 00:03:12,608 - But in Hollywood terms... 72 00:03:12,767 --> 00:03:15,685 - That meant that he had no power, he was not in control. 73 00:03:15,770 --> 00:03:17,779 (narrator) Well, no power officially. 74 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:20,782 But Gene, a master of the dark arts of PR, 75 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:23,860 wasn't ready to dematerialize just yet. 76 00:03:23,945 --> 00:03:26,788 Meanwhile, Paramount had found their Joshua. 77 00:03:26,948 --> 00:03:28,123 - A guy named Harve Bennett. 78 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,875 (John) Incredibly popular. 79 00:03:30,034 --> 00:03:32,461 He knew how to do a science fiction show. 80 00:03:32,545 --> 00:03:34,621 - Having cut his teeth on "The Mod Squad", 81 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:37,290 the "Six Million Dollar Man" and "The Bionic Woman", 82 00:03:37,375 --> 00:03:40,385 he knew how to make the ordinary extraordinary. 83 00:03:40,544 --> 00:03:41,878 ♪ 84 00:03:41,963 --> 00:03:42,879 And... - He knew how to 85 00:03:42,964 --> 00:03:44,723 do a show under budget. 86 00:03:44,882 --> 00:03:47,050 - Harve Bennett met with Paramount executives. 87 00:03:47,143 --> 00:03:48,727 - They asked him for his honest opinion 88 00:03:48,811 --> 00:03:50,303 on "Star Trek: The Motion Picture". 89 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:52,898 - And he said do I tell the truth or do I, you know, 90 00:03:53,057 --> 00:03:54,557 you know, give him something he wants to hear? 91 00:03:54,651 --> 00:03:57,727 (narrator) What he said shocked no one. 92 00:03:57,812 --> 00:03:59,488 - Kind of boring. 93 00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:01,147 - My kids are falling asleep during it. 94 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:03,742 - And they said, okay, can you make us a "Star Trek" movie 95 00:04:03,826 --> 00:04:06,828 for less than $45 million? 96 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:09,665 - And he very famously said, sir, I could make three better 97 00:04:09,824 --> 00:04:11,074 pictures for what you spent. 98 00:04:11,158 --> 00:04:13,835 - Harve was speaking Paramount's language 99 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,171 and the budget for the sequel reflected that 100 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,581 to the tune of... - $13 million. 101 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:20,750 - For that kind of money, you could barely make 102 00:04:20,843 --> 00:04:23,670 the opening titles of most blockbuster sci-fis. 103 00:04:23,754 --> 00:04:25,097 So Harve went to a producer 104 00:04:25,256 --> 00:04:27,841 whose middle name is resourceful. 105 00:04:27,934 --> 00:04:31,261 - I had gone to UCLA film school before film was fashionable 106 00:04:31,345 --> 00:04:34,848 and one of my classmates was a guy named Harve Bennett. 107 00:04:34,932 --> 00:04:37,600 - And one day out of the blue, his old friend called him. 108 00:04:37,685 --> 00:04:40,112 - And he says, I'd like you to produce the "Star Trek" thing. 109 00:04:40,196 --> 00:04:42,105 And I said, sure, why not? Okay. 110 00:04:42,189 --> 00:04:45,859 - So while Harve nailed down the story, Bob's job... 111 00:04:45,943 --> 00:04:47,110 - Was to do everything else. 112 00:04:47,203 --> 00:04:49,121 (narrator) With no real ideas yet, 113 00:04:49,205 --> 00:04:52,624 Harve returned to "Star Trek's" roots for inspiration. 114 00:04:52,783 --> 00:04:55,035 - Harve did screen all the previous episodes, 115 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:57,871 and it was in doing so that he came up with the idea 116 00:04:57,955 --> 00:05:00,790 of bringing Khan back into the picture, as it were. 117 00:05:00,875 --> 00:05:03,969 - Khan was the genetically engineered alpha male made 118 00:05:04,053 --> 00:05:07,297 famous by Ricardo Montalban in the episode "Space Seed." 119 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:10,142 - My name is Khan, please sit and entertain me. 120 00:05:10,301 --> 00:05:12,728 (narrator) And if Khan was back, Montalban was back. 121 00:05:12,812 --> 00:05:15,147 Older, wiser and even more famous, 122 00:05:15,306 --> 00:05:18,558 thanks to some truly fantastic performances. 123 00:05:18,642 --> 00:05:20,569 - Welcome to Fantasy Island. 124 00:05:20,653 --> 00:05:22,321 - Montalban is an underrated actor. 125 00:05:22,405 --> 00:05:25,991 He's a fantastic actor who played a great variety of roles 126 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:29,077 and always a polished, beautiful performance. 127 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:31,246 - But as one character returned, 128 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:34,249 one very important one was about to leave. 129 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:37,160 - Leonard Nimoy did not want to do another "Star Trek" movie. 130 00:05:37,244 --> 00:05:39,004 - He thought it'd be a good time to retire the character. 131 00:05:39,163 --> 00:05:41,748 - Spock or no Spock, Harve Bennett and Paramount 132 00:05:41,832 --> 00:05:44,000 continue to develop the script, 133 00:05:44,085 --> 00:05:46,753 even turning to writers from the original series. 134 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:49,005 - It was a revolving door, it seemed to me, of writers. 135 00:05:49,090 --> 00:05:51,341 - Taking bits and pieces from everyone, 136 00:05:51,425 --> 00:05:54,677 they were far from having one script they were all happy with. 137 00:05:54,762 --> 00:05:57,022 - The clock was ticking, I was very concerned. 138 00:05:57,181 --> 00:05:59,941 - Then it was an unexpected break in casting that would 139 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:02,268 give the script a new direction. 140 00:06:02,353 --> 00:06:05,605 Nimoy had changed his tune, telling producers... 141 00:06:05,698 --> 00:06:07,199 - I would love to do it. 142 00:06:07,358 --> 00:06:09,609 - Meaning he'd love to come back as Spock. 143 00:06:09,702 --> 00:06:11,194 But under one condition. 144 00:06:11,278 --> 00:06:15,031 - Leonard said write me out, find an exit for Spock. 145 00:06:15,124 --> 00:06:17,209 - That is wise. - So Harve Bennett 146 00:06:17,368 --> 00:06:19,628 called Leonard a few days later and said... 147 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,788 - What no fan would want to hear. 148 00:06:21,872 --> 00:06:23,965 - We're going to kill Spock. 149 00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:25,291 And Nimoy said, okay, great. 150 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:26,876 (narrator) Nimoy loved it, 151 00:06:26,961 --> 00:06:29,379 but the creator of Mr. Spock didn't. 152 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:30,972 - Spock was supposed to get killed 153 00:06:31,132 --> 00:06:32,632 ten pages into the script. 154 00:06:32,716 --> 00:06:34,217 - Gene Roddenberry hears about this 155 00:06:34,301 --> 00:06:35,644 and he feels this is the end of "Star Trek." 156 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:38,480 - Gene was incensed at the idea. 157 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:40,065 - You don't have to kill Spock, 158 00:06:40,224 --> 00:06:41,650 you can just have him going back to Vulcan. 159 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:43,977 Unfortunately, nobody would listen to him. 160 00:06:44,061 --> 00:06:45,904 - He did not have any responsibility for 161 00:06:46,063 --> 00:06:48,657 the production or for shaping the material. 162 00:06:48,741 --> 00:06:50,325 - But that wouldn't stop him from trying. 163 00:06:50,484 --> 00:06:52,911 - Gene would send us memos. 164 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:56,239 They were, by and large, disregarded. 165 00:06:56,332 --> 00:06:58,741 - But Gene was not going to just sit by 166 00:06:58,826 --> 00:07:01,327 and watch them kill off one of his favorite characters. 167 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:03,255 - This was personal for Gene. 168 00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:05,924 - So Gene resorted to one of his oldest tricks. 169 00:07:06,083 --> 00:07:08,844 - He leaked through Susan Sacket, his assistant, 170 00:07:08,928 --> 00:07:11,087 that Spock was going to get killed the first ten minutes. 171 00:07:11,172 --> 00:07:15,091 - How do they know this? Well, they had put sort of 172 00:07:15,176 --> 00:07:18,845 a code on the scripts so they could track the scripts back. 173 00:07:18,938 --> 00:07:22,691 - But by the time they found out who did it, it was too late. 174 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:24,860 And the fans had an uprising. 175 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:27,112 - And once again... - Paramount was being flooded 176 00:07:27,196 --> 00:07:28,864 with letters and phone calls... (phones ringing) 177 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:30,773 - Threatening to boycott the movie... 178 00:07:30,867 --> 00:07:32,525 - Unless Spock was not killed off. 179 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:35,787 - But some fans took it much further than that. 180 00:07:35,872 --> 00:07:38,198 And the next thing I know, on my home telephone 181 00:07:38,282 --> 00:07:39,782 answering machine, I got a message. 182 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:41,710 - A message that cut right to the point. 183 00:07:41,869 --> 00:07:44,954 - "You kill Spock and we'll kill you." 184 00:07:45,047 --> 00:07:46,372 I've served in the Marine Corps, 185 00:07:46,457 --> 00:07:47,957 and I've served in the Air Force, 186 00:07:48,042 --> 00:07:49,792 and I've never had my life in danger. 187 00:07:49,886 --> 00:07:51,720 But I'm producing a "Star Trek" picture 188 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:53,129 and my life is being threatened? 189 00:07:53,222 --> 00:07:55,048 - We were kind of being driven up the wall 190 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:58,301 by the volume of mail, by pressure tactics, 191 00:07:58,394 --> 00:08:00,303 by certain people who, as I say, 192 00:08:00,396 --> 00:08:02,805 felt over possessive about "Star Trek". 193 00:08:02,890 --> 00:08:07,235 So we simply decided on a policy and the policy is closed set. 194 00:08:07,394 --> 00:08:09,312 - But before they could close the set, 195 00:08:09,396 --> 00:08:11,314 Robert would have to find a director. 196 00:08:11,398 --> 00:08:12,899 - What I found out is a lot of people 197 00:08:12,992 --> 00:08:14,743 didn't want to do "Star Trek", 198 00:08:14,827 --> 00:08:16,903 a lot of people didn't want to do a sequel, 199 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:18,830 a lot of directors didn't want to do sci-fi, 200 00:08:18,989 --> 00:08:20,248 and a lot of directors weren't available. 201 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:23,084 - There must be somebody who wanted the gig. 202 00:08:23,244 --> 00:08:24,753 - So I made up a list, I must've had 203 00:08:24,912 --> 00:08:26,996 30 or 40 people on my list. 204 00:08:27,081 --> 00:08:28,665 (narrator) Down a long list of names, 205 00:08:28,749 --> 00:08:31,259 Bob came across this guy. 206 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:34,846 - I'm Nicholas Meyer and I write and direct movies. 207 00:08:35,005 --> 00:08:36,839 - But back in 1982, 208 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:39,175 Nick had only one film under his belt, 209 00:08:39,268 --> 00:08:40,927 meaning "Star Trek" was... 210 00:08:41,011 --> 00:08:43,596 - Only the second movie I'd ever made in my life. 211 00:08:43,681 --> 00:08:46,775 - And a complete novice when it came to the Star Trek universe. 212 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:49,861 - But we talked and he got it. 213 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:52,864 Comparing "Star Trek" to... - "Hornblower" in outer space. 214 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:55,951 - Words almost out of Gene Roddenberry mouth. 215 00:08:56,035 --> 00:08:58,870 - So we signed him. - Cigar and all. 216 00:08:58,955 --> 00:09:01,197 - Harve and I walked out, and Harve turned to me 217 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,959 and said, I don't know. I said, what's wrong? 218 00:09:04,043 --> 00:09:05,377 He said, he's going to be trouble. 219 00:09:05,536 --> 00:09:07,954 - But the trouble is all Nicolas's for now. 220 00:09:08,038 --> 00:09:10,873 He was faced with five different scripts. 221 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:12,875 - So I read them. - And from five scripts, 222 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:15,053 Nicholas came out with one idea. 223 00:09:15,137 --> 00:09:18,381 - Why don't we make a list 224 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:20,809 of all the things we like in these five scripts? 225 00:09:20,893 --> 00:09:23,803 And then we'll try to cobble this together and make 226 00:09:23,896 --> 00:09:27,390 a new movie that incorporates as much of this as possible? 227 00:09:27,474 --> 00:09:30,143 - Which was a great idea until Nicholas found out 228 00:09:30,227 --> 00:09:32,061 he only had 12 days to write it. 229 00:09:32,154 --> 00:09:34,155 - Ugh. - They say, well, 230 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,317 the problem is that if we don't have a draft of a script 231 00:09:37,401 --> 00:09:40,653 in 12 days, ILM... - That's effects house 232 00:09:40,746 --> 00:09:44,249 Industrial Light and Magic... - Say they cannot deliver 233 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:47,160 the special effects shots in time for the June opening. 234 00:09:47,244 --> 00:09:48,753 - At which point, Nicholas asked... 235 00:09:48,912 --> 00:09:52,915 - What June opening? - Never rains, but it pours. 236 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,250 - And they said, you know, we booked the thing 237 00:09:54,343 --> 00:09:56,336 into 600 theaters or something. 238 00:09:56,429 --> 00:09:59,505 You booked it into the theaters and there's no movie? 239 00:09:59,590 --> 00:10:01,600 (narrator) Nonetheless, Nicholas said... 240 00:10:01,684 --> 00:10:04,352 - Well, okay, I think I can do this in 12 days. 241 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,355 - To which Bob replied... - There's no argument from me. 242 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,441 (narrator) Paramount finally had a writer-director 243 00:10:09,525 --> 00:10:13,278 who could work with their ridiculous schedule. 244 00:10:13,362 --> 00:10:15,021 - Our concern was they're gonna 245 00:10:15,105 --> 00:10:16,939 drag their feet on this upstairs. 246 00:10:17,024 --> 00:10:18,524 In the administration building. 247 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,194 - Although Nicholas was already signed on as a director, 248 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:23,538 he would have to wait until his writing deal was complete 249 00:10:23,697 --> 00:10:25,615 before starting the script. 250 00:10:25,708 --> 00:10:28,034 - They said, well, we couldn't even make your deal in 12 days. 251 00:10:28,118 --> 00:10:30,119 And that's when I sort of made my mistake 252 00:10:30,212 --> 00:10:31,871 and I said, well, forget about the deal, 253 00:10:31,964 --> 00:10:33,956 forget about the money, forget about the credit. 254 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:35,467 - You know, I was really dumbstruck. 255 00:10:35,626 --> 00:10:37,377 (narrator) Nicholas agreed to write the movie... 256 00:10:37,461 --> 00:10:38,887 - For free. 257 00:10:38,971 --> 00:10:40,380 - Not just that... - Um... 258 00:10:40,464 --> 00:10:42,474 - He agreed to do it without any credit. 259 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:44,467 - I really wanted to make this movie. 260 00:10:44,551 --> 00:10:47,303 I was jonesing for this thing by now. 261 00:10:47,388 --> 00:10:50,065 - And later he told me, he says, my agent told me I was crazy, 262 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:52,984 - Crazy or not, the movie was now on Nicolas' shoulders. 263 00:10:57,815 --> 00:10:59,565 (narrator) With just 12 days to write the "Star Trek" movie sequel... 264 00:10:59,909 --> 00:11:02,902 - As I worked, it was like fiddling with a Rubik's Cube. 265 00:11:02,986 --> 00:11:04,746 - It was Mad Libs. - Taking bits and pieces 266 00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:06,081 from previous drafts. 267 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:07,582 (Nicholas) The Genesis project. 268 00:11:07,741 --> 00:11:09,492 - Genesis is life. 269 00:11:09,576 --> 00:11:13,004 - Kirk meets his son. Lieutenant Saavik. 270 00:11:13,163 --> 00:11:15,090 - I'm aware of my responsibilities, Mister. 271 00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:16,925 (Nicholas) The simulator sequence. 272 00:11:17,084 --> 00:11:20,086 - What about my performance? - I'm not a drama critic. 273 00:11:20,170 --> 00:11:24,015 - But along the way, certain themes are jumping out at you. 274 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,843 - And Nicholas realized he was writing a movie about... 275 00:11:26,927 --> 00:11:31,523 - Friendship, old age and death. - Other people have birthdays, 276 00:11:31,682 --> 00:11:32,849 why are we treating yours like a funeral? 277 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:34,434 - Bones, I don't want to be lectured. 278 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:36,519 - And this is a cast that is getting older, 279 00:11:36,603 --> 00:11:39,105 so rather than pretending that they're not... 280 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:42,450 - Who am I hiding from? - Go at it head on 281 00:11:42,609 --> 00:11:45,453 - From yourself, Admiral. 282 00:11:45,612 --> 00:11:46,538 Give him glasses. 283 00:11:46,697 --> 00:11:49,866 ♪ 284 00:11:49,950 --> 00:11:52,869 (narrator) It sounded like the answer to everyone's prayers. 285 00:11:52,953 --> 00:11:55,204 - He saved us. - Called "The Wrath of Khan," 286 00:11:55,289 --> 00:11:57,707 this "Star Trek" sequel had everything. 287 00:11:57,791 --> 00:11:59,459 (phone ringing) 288 00:11:59,543 --> 00:12:01,127 (Nicholas) Got a call from Harve Bennett. 289 00:12:01,211 --> 00:12:04,889 He said, we have a problem. I said, what's the problem? 290 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,716 And he says that Bill Shatner hates the script. 291 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,636 And I went, he-- he hates the script? 292 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,556 And I think, again, only my second movie, 293 00:12:13,649 --> 00:12:15,650 oh, that's it, we're done, we're toast. 294 00:12:17,561 --> 00:12:19,145 This is a disaster. 295 00:12:19,238 --> 00:12:21,314 (narrator) There was only one thing for it, 296 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,149 a meeting with the producers. 297 00:12:23,233 --> 00:12:25,902 - All I remember about the meeting is that 298 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:29,164 I had to keep getting up and going to pee. 299 00:12:29,248 --> 00:12:31,750 I didn't know where to put either my embarrassment 300 00:12:31,909 --> 00:12:33,585 or my rage. 301 00:12:33,744 --> 00:12:35,754 - While Nicholas' bladder took the initial hit... 302 00:12:35,913 --> 00:12:39,507 - And I'm sitting there totally finished. 303 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,667 (narrator) Drawing on years of experience, 304 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,512 executive producer Harve Bennett had already diagnosed 305 00:12:44,671 --> 00:12:46,589 the problem. - Correct. 306 00:12:46,682 --> 00:12:49,091 - With Shatner, not Nicolas' bladder. 307 00:12:49,176 --> 00:12:52,270 - Harve basically figured out that Bill wanted to make sure 308 00:12:52,354 --> 00:12:54,597 that he was always the first man through the door. 309 00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:55,940 - Permission to come aboard, Captain. 310 00:12:56,099 --> 00:12:57,525 - Welcome, Admiral. 311 00:12:57,684 --> 00:12:59,268 - He was the leading guy. 312 00:12:59,353 --> 00:13:01,196 So I was learning how to write for a star. 313 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,689 (narrator) And like every screen actor ever, 314 00:13:03,774 --> 00:13:05,858 Shatner was also worried about the one number 315 00:13:05,951 --> 00:13:08,194 no more important to an actor than his fee. 316 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:10,955 - The original script specified Kirk's age. 317 00:13:11,114 --> 00:13:12,448 (narrator) And Shatner felt Captain Kirk 318 00:13:12,541 --> 00:13:14,542 should be ageless, thinking... 319 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:16,127 - You know, they don't have to put a number on him. 320 00:13:16,286 --> 00:13:17,712 - But I guess now we'll never know. 321 00:13:17,871 --> 00:13:20,623 - 49 in the scripts. - Happy birthday. 322 00:13:20,707 --> 00:13:22,124 (John) That wasn't something that William Shatner 323 00:13:22,209 --> 00:13:24,135 wanted to do, I think also for the character, 324 00:13:24,294 --> 00:13:25,962 you don't want to be pinned down like that. 325 00:13:26,046 --> 00:13:28,473 - Thank you. - He was understandably 326 00:13:28,632 --> 00:13:31,142 protective of what he had created, 327 00:13:31,227 --> 00:13:33,144 the character of Kirk. 328 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:36,147 (narrator) So Nicholas rewrote with the star's ego in mind. 329 00:13:36,232 --> 00:13:38,733 (Nicholas) I went home and I think fixed the thing in eight hours, 330 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:40,568 and just sent it back to him. 331 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:43,071 (narrator) Shatner's response came back at warp speed. 332 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:45,565 - Lights. - He left a message 333 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:47,659 on my voice message machine... 334 00:13:47,743 --> 00:13:49,410 (narrator) Which said something like this... 335 00:13:49,495 --> 00:13:50,995 - "You are a genius", 336 00:13:51,154 --> 00:13:52,738 and something, something, something. 337 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:55,250 - And with that, he had his star's blessing. 338 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:57,252 - And I used to play it back to him every now and again 339 00:13:57,336 --> 00:13:59,662 when I was, you know, having issues. 340 00:13:59,746 --> 00:14:01,506 And I was like, hey, Bill, just take a listen. 341 00:14:01,665 --> 00:14:04,750 "You are a genius" and something something something. 342 00:14:04,835 --> 00:14:07,846 - Now, with the script settled, Nicholas was free to pursue his 343 00:14:07,930 --> 00:14:10,932 vision of an action adventure, taking inspiration from 344 00:14:11,091 --> 00:14:12,684 military dramas such as... 345 00:14:12,843 --> 00:14:14,102 - The movie called "The Enemy Below". 346 00:14:14,261 --> 00:14:17,096 - Because for high drama on a low budget, 347 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:20,024 nothing beats a claustrophobic contest of wills. 348 00:14:20,183 --> 00:14:22,861 - And so I went all out to make it more like a submarine, 349 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:24,687 more like destroyers, those things 350 00:14:24,771 --> 00:14:25,947 are not built for comfort. 351 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:27,949 - That meant making everything... 352 00:14:28,108 --> 00:14:29,692 - Smaller, claustrophobic. 353 00:14:29,776 --> 00:14:31,786 - No minor detail was spared. 354 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,279 (Nicholas) Why aren't there blinking lights? 355 00:14:33,363 --> 00:14:35,290 Let's just put a lot of those in. 356 00:14:35,449 --> 00:14:37,783 - But more than just lights, Nicholas wanted to add... 357 00:14:37,868 --> 00:14:39,544 - Blood. - And he got it. 358 00:14:39,703 --> 00:14:42,288 - Otherwise it was like a cartoon or something. 359 00:14:42,372 --> 00:14:44,874 (narrator) Meanwhile, "Star Trek's" creator 360 00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:47,043 had no problem with blood on uniforms. 361 00:14:47,127 --> 00:14:50,796 He was more concerned with the uniforms. 362 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:52,715 - Gene Roddenberry, I remember getting a memo, 363 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:55,226 didn't like them, he thought they were way too militaristic. 364 00:14:55,385 --> 00:14:58,054 - But having been relegated to a small office... 365 00:14:58,138 --> 00:15:00,389 - That was just the way it was going to be. 366 00:15:00,474 --> 00:15:02,233 - Because Nicholas Meyer had drawn inspiration 367 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:04,226 from another classic film. 368 00:15:04,311 --> 00:15:07,647 - "The Prisoner of Zenda" has the high collars 369 00:15:07,731 --> 00:15:09,732 and the wide flaps. 370 00:15:09,816 --> 00:15:11,826 - Which not only framed the face beautifully 371 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,153 It gives a color contrast. - But it was going to take 372 00:15:14,237 --> 00:15:15,663 more than fancy uniforms to make 373 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:17,823 a splash at the box office. - How? 374 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,584 - They would need state of the art special effects 375 00:15:19,743 --> 00:15:22,078 from the legendary wizards at ILM, 376 00:15:22,171 --> 00:15:24,923 while obeying Paramount's prime directive. 377 00:15:25,007 --> 00:15:27,416 - Here's your budget, doesn't change work, within that. 378 00:15:27,501 --> 00:15:31,837 - A budget that was a lot less than the other films of the era. 379 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:34,757 But director Nicholas Meyer was undaunted. 380 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:36,676 - Art thrives on restrictions. 381 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,687 And also, I had a lot of help from Robert Sallin... 382 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:43,182 - Who oversaw much of ILM's work for the young director. 383 00:15:43,266 --> 00:15:45,610 - He watched my back. - And kept the designs 384 00:15:45,769 --> 00:15:47,862 under budget with a few clever tricks. 385 00:15:48,021 --> 00:15:50,281 - The design of the Regula 1... - Where the scientists were 386 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,192 working on the Genesis Project was actually 387 00:15:53,276 --> 00:15:54,953 the Orbital Office Complex. 388 00:15:55,112 --> 00:15:56,788 - It was leftover from the first film 389 00:15:56,872 --> 00:15:59,207 and I just said, turn it upside down. 390 00:15:59,291 --> 00:16:01,867 And that's what they did. - And it didn't cost a cent. 391 00:16:01,952 --> 00:16:04,712 - If I could save a buck on the models, I was gonna do it. 392 00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:06,956 - But when it came to the USS Reliant 393 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,300 a cheap hack wouldn't do-- - We did the same thing. 394 00:16:09,459 --> 00:16:12,044 Yeah, I just flipped the Enterprise upside down. 395 00:16:12,129 --> 00:16:13,879 And so instead of having 396 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:15,890 the nacelles up here, the nacelles are down here. 397 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:18,142 - Yep, totally different. - Yep. 398 00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:19,978 - So with the upside down ships... 399 00:16:20,137 --> 00:16:22,313 - I said, how does that look? - Cobbled together script, 400 00:16:22,472 --> 00:16:24,890 maroon uniforms, and a green director, 401 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:30,738 they began rolling on production on November 9th, 1981. 402 00:16:30,897 --> 00:16:31,981 (man) Rolling. 403 00:16:32,065 --> 00:16:33,324 (Robert) We started production... 404 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,076 (narrator) But just three days in, 405 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,078 Robert sounded the distress signal. 406 00:16:37,162 --> 00:16:38,988 (Robert) At the end of the first three days 407 00:16:39,072 --> 00:16:41,833 Nick was a week behind. 408 00:16:41,992 --> 00:16:44,252 So Robert did what anyone would do. 409 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:46,245 - I panicked, pure and simple. 410 00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:48,256 I didn't know where this was going to go, 411 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:49,999 and I didn't know what to do. 412 00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:51,917 - Robert soon found himself producing a movie 413 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,253 whose director he couldn't get through to. 414 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:58,340 - Nick didn't know me, and I think he was protective 415 00:16:58,425 --> 00:17:01,436 and hesitant and afraid that I would somehow 416 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,271 impinge on his world or something. 417 00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:05,690 And Nick was resistant. 418 00:17:05,774 --> 00:17:08,026 I couldn't put my arm around Nick 419 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:11,270 and say, Nick, listen to me, you're in trouble. 420 00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:14,532 Now, I want to help you, let me see if I can do that. 421 00:17:14,616 --> 00:17:17,943 His attitude was always keeping me at a distance. 422 00:17:18,028 --> 00:17:19,787 - I was very busy. - (narrator) It was like 423 00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:21,789 there was a forcefield around Nick. 424 00:17:21,948 --> 00:17:25,034 So Robert made a call he thought was the only way to save 425 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:27,628 the second "Star Trek" movie. 426 00:17:27,788 --> 00:17:29,455 - I went to management. 427 00:17:29,539 --> 00:17:32,041 And I said, here's what's going on. 428 00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:33,676 This could be a big problem 429 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,131 (narrator) With his inexperienced director 430 00:17:39,216 --> 00:17:40,183 falling behind... - I went to management. 431 00:17:41,885 --> 00:17:43,478 - And delivered a scathing report to Paramount's top brass. 432 00:17:43,562 --> 00:17:47,065 - Thinking you should replace him. 433 00:17:47,224 --> 00:17:49,558 - But Paramount chief operating officer 434 00:17:49,643 --> 00:17:52,153 Michael Eisner saw things differently. 435 00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:54,489 - He said, no, we're not going to do that. 436 00:17:54,648 --> 00:17:57,900 - Eisner was concerned about Paramount's reputation. 437 00:17:57,984 --> 00:18:00,244 - And he said because nobody will want to work at Paramount. 438 00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:01,737 I said, fair enough. 439 00:18:01,822 --> 00:18:04,323 - So stuck with his young director for now, 440 00:18:04,407 --> 00:18:06,334 Robert put the pressure on. 441 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:08,494 - We were able to get the message across to Nick, 442 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:11,506 and he was receptive. 443 00:18:11,665 --> 00:18:15,343 - But being behind, he'd have to find ways to make up time. 444 00:18:15,502 --> 00:18:19,097 - I had to fly down quickly to get on set immediately. 445 00:18:19,256 --> 00:18:21,182 - On such a highly technical shoot, 446 00:18:21,266 --> 00:18:23,518 Ken's experience would come in handy. 447 00:18:23,677 --> 00:18:26,437 - I come down, I have probably my little bit of crew, we go in. 448 00:18:26,522 --> 00:18:28,681 - And waited for the young director to get to his 449 00:18:28,765 --> 00:18:30,349 special effects shots... 450 00:18:30,433 --> 00:18:32,276 (crickets chirping) 451 00:18:32,361 --> 00:18:34,195 And then waited some more. 452 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,438 - They never got to the shot. 453 00:18:36,523 --> 00:18:38,440 - I'll say this for him, he's consistent. 454 00:18:38,525 --> 00:18:41,694 - The ILM effect wizards were just sitting around 455 00:18:41,778 --> 00:18:43,704 conjuring up no light nor magic. 456 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,449 - So I had to constantly help him back 457 00:18:47,534 --> 00:18:49,293 into the visual effects scenes. 458 00:18:49,452 --> 00:18:51,212 - Beginning with storyboarding many of the film's 459 00:18:51,371 --> 00:18:53,455 special effects sequences 460 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:56,134 with the help of art director Mike Minor. 461 00:18:56,293 --> 00:18:58,294 - So I remember clearly saying to Mike, 462 00:18:58,378 --> 00:19:00,805 you know, that battle... - "That battle" would be 463 00:19:00,964 --> 00:19:03,632 the epic final showdown between the Enterprise... 464 00:19:03,717 --> 00:19:07,228 - There she is! - And Khan's stolen Reliant. 465 00:19:07,387 --> 00:19:08,721 - We can't whip these things around 466 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,983 like World War I fighter planes. 467 00:19:12,067 --> 00:19:14,727 You know, they're lumbering, slow moving things. 468 00:19:14,811 --> 00:19:19,407 And I said we need to have some way to enhance the tension. 469 00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:20,733 (narrator) And the clever solution proved to be 470 00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:23,327 right in front of their noses. 471 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:26,322 - How about if we hid them in a nebula? 472 00:19:26,406 --> 00:19:29,167 - The gaseous clouds proved to be the perfect setting 473 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:31,252 for a spatial chess match. 474 00:19:31,411 --> 00:19:34,246 - My logical conclusion was to do it in a cloud tank. 475 00:19:34,331 --> 00:19:37,508 - Of course, a cloud tank-- Sorry, what's a cloud tank? 476 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:40,928 - The cloud tank is basically a large metal container 477 00:19:41,087 --> 00:19:45,850 with glass panels on each side, and it's filled with warm water 478 00:19:46,009 --> 00:19:47,843 up to about three quarters of the way up. 479 00:19:47,928 --> 00:19:52,607 Then, insanely, you would lay a piece of plastic on it 480 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:55,935 very gently. - But they were not done yet. 481 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,863 - Then you would gently pour in cold water 482 00:19:59,022 --> 00:20:00,948 and you would create an inversion layer. 483 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,117 - Meaning once the clear wrap was removed, 484 00:20:03,276 --> 00:20:04,860 the two layers would mix, 485 00:20:04,945 --> 00:20:07,622 with lights used to add cosmic colors. 486 00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:10,541 - And it starts to give almost a look of thunderheads 487 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,369 or clouds are spreading out, and there's a nice, 488 00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:16,464 fake sense of a scale to it when you do that. 489 00:20:16,623 --> 00:20:19,717 - Some of Robert's money saving ideas for effects were so cheap 490 00:20:19,876 --> 00:20:21,794 they were literally the garden variety. 491 00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:24,630 - The original script called for a creature to attach itself 492 00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:26,882 to the back of Chekov's neck. 493 00:20:26,967 --> 00:20:29,310 - But Bob felt they could do a little better. 494 00:20:29,469 --> 00:20:31,303 - I was going out to get my newspaper, 495 00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:34,398 I saw a slug. 496 00:20:34,557 --> 00:20:36,642 And I hate those things. But anyway, I said, hey, 497 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:39,987 is it feasible that a little slimy thing like that 498 00:20:40,146 --> 00:20:42,398 could enter the human ear 499 00:20:42,482 --> 00:20:45,409 and lodge itself maybe in the cerebral cortex? 500 00:20:45,494 --> 00:20:47,495 (narrator) The answer was yes. 501 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:50,072 - God's sakes. - Which was money in the bank for Robert. 502 00:20:50,156 --> 00:20:53,417 - I said, great! That's when I got so excited. 503 00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:56,996 So I went up to ILM, and I told Ken Ralston about it. 504 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,424 - And Ken got to work crafting Bob's space slug. 505 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:03,261 - I took a piece of polyfoam, cut these little-- 506 00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:06,255 Little segments in this thing very delicately, 507 00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:08,432 left a small little thing in the middle, 508 00:21:08,591 --> 00:21:10,342 so it was flexible, stuck on their face 509 00:21:10,427 --> 00:21:12,011 and they had a monofilament line, 510 00:21:12,095 --> 00:21:14,013 and I would just pull. 511 00:21:14,097 --> 00:21:17,850 It would actually do this. It could be that simple. 512 00:21:17,934 --> 00:21:19,351 - While the slug had no trouble burrowing 513 00:21:19,444 --> 00:21:21,603 into Chekov and Terrell's heads, 514 00:21:21,688 --> 00:21:23,856 director Nicholas Meyer, was having a hard time 515 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:25,524 getting through to Shatner. 516 00:21:25,608 --> 00:21:27,693 - There is a moment in the movie 517 00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:31,030 where he's supposed to give Khan some information. 518 00:21:31,114 --> 00:21:33,874 - Give me some time to recall the data on our computers. 519 00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,377 - I give you 60 seconds, Admiral. 520 00:21:36,461 --> 00:21:38,537 (Nicholas) And Kirk has the line "here it comes." 521 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:40,622 And the first time Bill says it, 522 00:21:40,707 --> 00:21:42,708 he goes, here it comes... 523 00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:43,968 (crickets chirping) 524 00:21:44,052 --> 00:21:47,805 And I say, Bill, this guy is supersmart. 525 00:21:47,964 --> 00:21:50,641 - Time is a luxury you don't have, Admiral. 526 00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:54,395 - If you say that with this, like, sarcasm dripping off 527 00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:57,315 the lens, just don't give away the, 528 00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,475 you know, what you got up your sleeve. 529 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:01,143 (narrator) His star wouldn't take the note. 530 00:22:01,227 --> 00:22:04,480 - It was still laden. - But like Captain Kirk himself, 531 00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:05,906 Nick had something up his sleeve. 532 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,908 - I just kept doing it. - Time's up. 533 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,568 - That was no good for sound. 534 00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:11,996 - Time's up. - I'm sorry, we were soft focus. 535 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,822 - Time's up. - And he got bored. 536 00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:15,908 And look at the end result. 537 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,252 - Here it comes. 538 00:22:18,411 --> 00:22:20,421 Now, Mr. Spock. 539 00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:23,499 - When he became bored and less aware 540 00:22:23,583 --> 00:22:27,428 of how he was presenting, he got really good. 541 00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:29,171 - But subtlety went out the window the day 542 00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,766 Ricardo Montalban arrived on the set. 543 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,259 - We came on, we were doing the cargo bay sequence, 544 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,103 which introduces Khan. 545 00:22:36,262 --> 00:22:39,431 - And Nick got to thinking about how he could get his lead star 546 00:22:39,516 --> 00:22:41,442 to really explore the space. 547 00:22:41,601 --> 00:22:46,947 - Wouldn't there be a way to let him do the whole thing in one go 548 00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:49,775 so he could work up his own head of steam? 549 00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:52,528 - So Nicolas called action and gave his star 550 00:22:52,621 --> 00:22:53,954 all the time in the world. 551 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,281 - About nine minutes without a break. 552 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,792 - He was letter perfect. 553 00:22:57,951 --> 00:23:00,044 - This is Ceti Alpha V! 554 00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:01,712 - I was awestruck. 555 00:23:01,797 --> 00:23:03,964 - I gave him these 23 marks to hit. 556 00:23:04,124 --> 00:23:05,874 He hit every one of them. 557 00:23:05,959 --> 00:23:07,885 - They didn't do a second take, they didn't have to. 558 00:23:08,044 --> 00:23:11,722 But from then on, Bill and Leonard's performances elevated. 559 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:13,974 (laughs) It was just, just enough. 560 00:23:14,134 --> 00:23:16,477 I don't think anyone else noticed it, 561 00:23:16,636 --> 00:23:19,063 but I did and it made me smile. 562 00:23:19,222 --> 00:23:21,056 (narrator) But not all egos could be managed. 563 00:23:21,141 --> 00:23:23,150 Off set, there were problems too, 564 00:23:23,309 --> 00:23:25,227 where a brooding Gene Roddenberry 565 00:23:25,311 --> 00:23:29,231 saw his vision of "Star Trek" being forgotten. 566 00:23:29,315 --> 00:23:33,735 - So he was always pushing back against things that he felt 567 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:35,737 weren't true to "Star Trek" 568 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,915 and true to the characters that he had created. 569 00:23:37,999 --> 00:23:40,576 (David) Harve was extremely polite to Gene, 570 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:43,579 and Gene was extremely polite to Harve Bennett. 571 00:23:43,663 --> 00:23:45,256 (narrator) At least publicly. 572 00:23:45,415 --> 00:23:48,092 - Gene didn't have any kind things to say 573 00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:50,085 about Harve Bennett in private. 574 00:23:50,178 --> 00:23:51,595 - He continued to sound off. 575 00:23:51,754 --> 00:23:53,180 (narrator) Harve was careful not to upset 576 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:56,258 Gene or his legions of followers. 577 00:23:56,342 --> 00:23:58,018 - If the two of them had been any more polite, 578 00:23:58,103 --> 00:23:59,761 there would have been blood on the floor. 579 00:23:59,846 --> 00:24:02,773 - But Gene's meddling had already created a monster 580 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:05,517 Harve Bennett couldn't possibly control. 581 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:09,104 The leak about Spock's fate had fans in open revolt. 582 00:24:09,197 --> 00:24:11,031 - The Spock death rumors were out there, 583 00:24:11,191 --> 00:24:12,941 and they were gonna boycott the movie 584 00:24:13,026 --> 00:24:16,287 and boycott the merchandise and were professional marketers 585 00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:18,372 who had done a professional marketing campaign 586 00:24:18,531 --> 00:24:21,292 and were spewing statistics and numbers and dollar amounts. 587 00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,044 (narrator) And the clamor was spilling onto the set. 588 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:25,963 - I was shocked that I was holding in my hand 589 00:24:26,122 --> 00:24:28,040 a copy of something that was going to be 590 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:31,135 hugely disappointing to the massive fan base. 591 00:24:31,294 --> 00:24:34,546 (Nicholas) People said, oh, you can't kill Spock. 592 00:24:34,631 --> 00:24:36,974 And I said, yeah, you can kill him. 593 00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:40,144 The only question is whether you kill him well. 594 00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:46,642 (narrator) With fans threatening a boycott 595 00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:47,902 over rumors of Spock's demise, 596 00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,812 Paramount was in an impossible situation. 597 00:24:50,897 --> 00:24:53,315 - The bottom line was he wanted out. 598 00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:54,816 They only got him in the movie 599 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,735 promising him a big death scene. 600 00:24:56,819 --> 00:24:59,663 - "Star Trek" was caught in a conundrum entirely of 601 00:24:59,748 --> 00:25:01,665 its creators own making. 602 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:03,667 - The only question is whether you kill him well. 603 00:25:03,826 --> 00:25:05,494 (explosion) 604 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,913 (narrator) Without element of surprise, 605 00:25:07,997 --> 00:25:10,499 some ingenious sleight of hand was required. 606 00:25:10,583 --> 00:25:13,585 - You have this scene where it turns out 607 00:25:13,670 --> 00:25:15,679 the Kobayashi Maru is a simulation. 608 00:25:15,764 --> 00:25:17,756 - Captain? 609 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,092 - Put that at the beginning, let the audience see 610 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,844 that Spock dies, oh, that's what this was all about. 611 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:23,938 Then you can catch 'em by surprise 612 00:25:24,097 --> 00:25:25,356 at the end of the picture. 613 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,015 - Aren't you dead? 614 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,610 - It's all just kind of a setup to to throw us. 615 00:25:29,769 --> 00:25:32,363 (narrator) When it came to euthanizing his own character, 616 00:25:32,522 --> 00:25:35,282 Leonard Nimoy was suddenly uneasy. 617 00:25:35,441 --> 00:25:37,284 - That was a major, major, 618 00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:40,696 difficult moment for me, very difficult. 619 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,447 - I think he was having sort of jittery feelings 620 00:25:42,532 --> 00:25:45,367 about do I really want to end this after all? 621 00:25:45,451 --> 00:25:48,796 - This was a big moment, big enough so that the minute 622 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,291 they do it, Leonard Nimoy starts having second thoughts. 623 00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:54,468 - And I began to be concerned 624 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:55,886 that maybe I'd made a mistake. 625 00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:57,546 - Then he was feeling very sort of 626 00:25:57,639 --> 00:26:00,966 jittery and testy and nervous about it. 627 00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:02,726 (narrator) But Nimoy had no qualms about the manner 628 00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:04,895 of Spock's demise. 629 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,473 - Maybe it's fitting that Spock should die saving the ship 630 00:26:08,558 --> 00:26:10,892 and the crew and be a hero and go out in a blaze of glory. 631 00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,644 (narrator) This was potentially 632 00:26:12,729 --> 00:26:14,813 the most important "Star Trek" scene ever. 633 00:26:14,897 --> 00:26:18,066 And everyone knew it-- Well, almost everyone. 634 00:26:18,151 --> 00:26:22,580 - I didn't really understand the significance to so many people 635 00:26:22,739 --> 00:26:25,499 of what was going on while we were shooting 636 00:26:25,658 --> 00:26:29,253 until I turn around to see my cinematographer is crying. 637 00:26:31,414 --> 00:26:33,332 The first AD is crying. 638 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,417 - Don't grieve, Admiral. 639 00:26:35,501 --> 00:26:37,511 - The prop guy is crying. 640 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:42,850 - The needs of the many outweigh... 641 00:26:43,009 --> 00:26:45,677 - The needs of the few. 642 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,930 - Or the one. 643 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:50,515 - And I was just making the movie. 644 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,777 - Spock... 645 00:26:53,936 --> 00:26:56,697 - Bill and Leonard really just nailed that. 646 00:26:56,856 --> 00:26:58,690 I mean, there was sobbing on the set. 647 00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,701 I mean, they really got into it. 648 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:05,864 - I was always very touched by what happened in that sequence 649 00:27:05,948 --> 00:27:07,791 and it really worked in the film. 650 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:10,461 I have people still today who write me and say every time 651 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,870 I still see that picture for the fifth, 652 00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:13,130 tenth time, I still cry. 653 00:27:13,214 --> 00:27:15,791 - It was the perfect end for Spock, 654 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,710 performed to perfection, except... 655 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:21,630 - We shot the scene with no film with no film in the camera. 656 00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:23,724 (laughter) - You're kidding? 657 00:27:23,883 --> 00:27:25,634 - First time it ever happened to me 658 00:27:25,718 --> 00:27:28,053 in thousands and thousands of scenes. 659 00:27:28,137 --> 00:27:32,724 - This is a story about Kirk coming to terms with himself. 660 00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:34,142 Kirk begins by saying... 661 00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:35,811 - I don't believe in a no-win scenario. 662 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:37,655 - Until he's confronted by it. 663 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:41,066 - It's a story about a man who ultimately realizes 664 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,411 his fallibility and perhaps accepts his humanity. 665 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,664 - Death is the no-win scenario. 666 00:27:46,823 --> 00:27:48,999 (narrator) But Paramount did not accept that. 667 00:27:49,158 --> 00:27:51,493 The studio and producers had an idea, 668 00:27:51,577 --> 00:27:53,587 a highly controversial one. 669 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:57,257 - And I, and Harve too, were very strong 670 00:27:57,417 --> 00:28:02,087 about the fact that we needed to plant in the audience's minds 671 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:04,014 the "maybe idea". 672 00:28:04,173 --> 00:28:06,591 - Harve came to me on the set and he said, 673 00:28:06,676 --> 00:28:10,104 what can you give us that might be a thread 674 00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:13,857 for the future for Spock or "Star Trek"? 675 00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:16,601 - Just in case. - And it took me a moment, 676 00:28:16,686 --> 00:28:18,770 I said I can do a mind meld on DeForest Kelley, 677 00:28:18,855 --> 00:28:20,856 who's laying there unconscious. 678 00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:24,109 I'm sorry, Doctor, I have no time to discuss this logically. 679 00:28:24,193 --> 00:28:26,453 And I can say something ambiguous, like... 680 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,697 Remember. - They said, okay, do that. 681 00:28:28,781 --> 00:28:32,292 I went, this guy, this is a producer. 682 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:37,122 (narrator) This touch of Vulcan logic from the producers made Spock proud. 683 00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,958 But for the director, they had lost the human emotion. 684 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,051 - Oh, I hated it. 685 00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:43,128 - Nick was adamant. 686 00:28:43,212 --> 00:28:44,796 - I fought it tooth and nail. 687 00:28:44,881 --> 00:28:48,726 We twist these people's feelings into knots 688 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,228 and then we say, "oh, just kidding"? 689 00:28:51,312 --> 00:28:54,648 (narrator) Nonetheless, the door was left open for Spock. 690 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,901 - And they decided they need a button on the end of the movie 691 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:01,563 showing the casket wherever it lands. 692 00:29:01,647 --> 00:29:03,899 - One way or another Spock would live on. 693 00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:06,151 But not everyone was happy about it. 694 00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:08,746 - They killed Spock, they should have left him dead 695 00:29:08,905 --> 00:29:10,655 as hard as that is. 696 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,166 Part of the reason why that film works is because of 697 00:29:12,325 --> 00:29:14,910 the emotional impact of Spock's death. 698 00:29:14,994 --> 00:29:16,912 And then at the very end, they give you the shot of 699 00:29:16,996 --> 00:29:19,581 the coffin that kind of winks at you 700 00:29:19,665 --> 00:29:21,091 and says actually, he's going to be back. 701 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,510 And it kind of takes some of that away. 702 00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:25,170 That said, it's a small quibble 703 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:28,015 in what is really the best of the "Star Trek" films. 704 00:29:28,174 --> 00:29:29,925 - Bye, everybody, thank you. 705 00:29:30,009 --> 00:29:31,593 - Paramount couldn't have been happier, 706 00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:35,189 and when shooting wrapped on January 29th, 1982, 707 00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:38,099 Bob, Harve, and Nick delivered a film on schedule. 708 00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:40,110 - And we came in on budget. 709 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:43,104 - While Nicholas never got his say on Spock's immortality, 710 00:29:43,189 --> 00:29:46,608 he had at least pulled off his own little mind meld-- 711 00:29:46,692 --> 00:29:48,952 Winning back the faith of his producer. 712 00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:50,788 - It was a hard thing to pull off, 713 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:56,293 (narrator) "Star Trek", The "Wrath of Khan" 714 00:29:56,377 --> 00:29:58,286 premiered in 1982. 715 00:29:58,371 --> 00:30:01,381 - This was the best "Star Trek" that I've ever seen before. 716 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:04,968 (narrator) The death of Spock had breathed new life into the franchise. 717 00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:07,462 $95 million worth. 718 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:09,223 - I loved it. - It was awesome. 719 00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,466 I hated part of the ending, but I understand 720 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,311 that will be remedied in the next one, right? 721 00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:16,972 - "Star Trek III" is a possibility. 722 00:30:17,056 --> 00:30:19,224 I think it's a distinct possibility. 723 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:21,151 - When we did "Star Trek II", 724 00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:23,987 up until the very final parts, it was a standalone film. 725 00:30:24,146 --> 00:30:27,399 - Standalone or not, Paramount now had 95 million reasons 726 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,818 to bring Spock back. - I am looking forward 727 00:30:29,902 --> 00:30:32,079 to discussing as soon as possible 728 00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:33,572 the next "Star Trek" motion picture 729 00:30:33,656 --> 00:30:36,083 and my involvement with it. 730 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,076 - The movie was such a huge hit 731 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,662 that they came back to Nimoy and said, what would it take 732 00:30:40,746 --> 00:30:42,673 to get you to come back and do another one? 733 00:30:42,832 --> 00:30:45,175 - And I said, I would like to direct it. 734 00:30:45,334 --> 00:30:48,262 To my surprise, they didn't throw me out of the office. 735 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,597 - For a would-be first time director, 736 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,267 Nimoy had a Vulcan's cool confidence. 737 00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:57,012 - When we made "Star Trek II", Nicholas Meyer was directing 738 00:30:57,096 --> 00:30:59,356 and I thought, I can do what he does. 739 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,349 (narrator) It seemed like a match made in heaven, 740 00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:05,103 but this was a director arriving with serious baggage. 741 00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:07,865 - Certain people might have been a little worried 742 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,524 about Leonard's directing. 743 00:31:09,617 --> 00:31:14,195 - Everybody was like, okay... 744 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,697 (narrator) Studio head Michael Eisner 745 00:31:15,781 --> 00:31:18,533 wanted Spock in front of the camera, not behind it. 746 00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:20,544 - He said, I can't have you direct this movie. 747 00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:22,537 I said, why, Michael? 748 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,206 He said, you hate "Star Trek". 749 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,051 You insisted on the Spock character being killed 750 00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:29,794 in "Star Trek II," 751 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,055 you had it in your contract that Spock had to die. 752 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,308 I can't have your directing a "Star Trek" movie. 753 00:31:34,467 --> 00:31:37,552 I said, Michael, this is really crazy. 754 00:31:37,637 --> 00:31:40,555 I don't hate "Star Trek". That was not in my contract. 755 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,224 And I said the contract is in a file in the building 756 00:31:43,309 --> 00:31:46,069 that you're in, somebody's given you bad information. 757 00:31:46,228 --> 00:31:47,646 Take a look at it and see if you can find 758 00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:48,980 anything like that in the contract. 759 00:31:49,073 --> 00:31:50,407 It's not there, it's not true. 760 00:31:50,566 --> 00:31:52,317 (narrator) Whatever was in that contract, 761 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:56,571 Eisner came back offering Nimoy a new one as a director. 762 00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,916 - And he said, okay, let's make a deal, 763 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,909 and we immediately made a deal and went to work. 764 00:32:00,993 --> 00:32:02,669 - With Spock returning in some form, 765 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:06,506 Paramount had gained one Vulcan only to lose another. 766 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:09,593 After an unhappy experience on the "Wrath of Khan"... 767 00:32:09,677 --> 00:32:11,920 She didn't seem to be very comfortable about it. 768 00:32:12,004 --> 00:32:14,172 Kirstie Alley would not be returning. 769 00:32:14,256 --> 00:32:16,174 - One day, she came to my dressing room 770 00:32:16,258 --> 00:32:19,594 and she was in absolute tears. 771 00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,521 All of a sudden she said to me, you know what, 772 00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,264 if this is what Hollywood is like, 773 00:32:23,349 --> 00:32:24,358 I don't think I want anything to do with it. 774 00:32:24,517 --> 00:32:26,276 I think I'm done. 775 00:32:26,435 --> 00:32:29,270 - When invited to reprise her role as Lieutenant Saavick, 776 00:32:29,355 --> 00:32:32,115 the actresses eyewatering asking price 777 00:32:32,274 --> 00:32:34,201 sent a clear message to Paramount. 778 00:32:34,285 --> 00:32:37,028 - This was always an actor's elegant way of saying 779 00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:38,956 thanks, but no thanks. 780 00:32:39,115 --> 00:32:40,532 - So with Kirstie Alley stepping aside, 781 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,126 Robin was introduced to Saavick. 782 00:32:43,285 --> 00:32:45,212 - And I was tickled pink, you know, 783 00:32:45,296 --> 00:32:47,622 to come in and take over the role. 784 00:32:47,715 --> 00:32:49,958 - Robin relaxed into the character, 785 00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,135 safe in the knowledge that her director 786 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:55,222 was the world authority on all things Vulcan. 787 00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:58,049 - What more expert hands to be in than Leonard Nimoy 788 00:32:58,134 --> 00:32:59,643 to be directed to play a Vulcan? 789 00:32:59,802 --> 00:33:05,557 He said Vulcans have 1,000 years of wisdom behind the eyes. 790 00:33:05,641 --> 00:33:08,476 How many have paid the price for your impatience? 791 00:33:08,561 --> 00:33:14,157 He had this lovely way of gently kind of guiding me, you know, 792 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,410 to whatever moment it was that Saavick was having. 793 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,820 - But even a thousand years of wisdom wouldn't help 794 00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:23,324 Robin work out how to negotiate Vulcan romance. 795 00:33:23,409 --> 00:33:25,252 - God, I remember the day Stephen Manley and I 796 00:33:25,411 --> 00:33:29,330 were all... all aflutter wondering, okay, 797 00:33:29,415 --> 00:33:32,426 what is Vulcan foreplay going to be? 798 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:36,763 - Stephen Manley portrayed a hormone-addled teenage Spock. 799 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,591 (Robin) Because the scene on the page definitely read that Spock 800 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,427 and Saavick are about to have this important moment. 801 00:33:42,511 --> 00:33:44,521 - This was the ritual mating of the Vulcan. 802 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,848 - Pon farr. 803 00:33:46,932 --> 00:33:48,600 Oh, my God, what is this going to be, you know? 804 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,445 What parts of our bodies are going to be interacting? 805 00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:53,697 - Luckily for them, the director was quite familiar 806 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:55,523 with Vulcan biology. 807 00:33:55,608 --> 00:33:58,443 - And Leonard Nimoy took us very gently aside, 808 00:33:58,527 --> 00:34:00,203 a very quiet part of the sound stage 809 00:34:00,362 --> 00:34:02,697 and he took our hands and he formed them like this. 810 00:34:02,782 --> 00:34:05,283 And he said, you're just going to gently... 811 00:34:05,367 --> 00:34:07,377 stroke each other like this. 812 00:34:07,536 --> 00:34:10,130 (narrator) Although it was a bit demure, 813 00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,215 it showed just enough to preserve a little... 814 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,709 - Vulcan mystique. 815 00:34:14,794 --> 00:34:17,462 - My lord, the ship appears to be deserted. 816 00:34:17,546 --> 00:34:19,389 - How can that be? - (narrator) The Klingons 817 00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:21,549 may not have been known for their mystique... 818 00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:23,143 - Oh yeah! 819 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:24,644 - But with "Taxi's" Christopher Lloyd 820 00:34:24,804 --> 00:34:28,231 having swapped his furrowed brow for a Klingon forehead, 821 00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,150 they had some star power in their ranks. 822 00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:32,393 - Five... - Get out! 823 00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:34,154 - Four... - Get out of there! 824 00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:35,906 (narrator) Lloyd's role as Commander Kruge 825 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:37,824 would see him have a hand in one of "Star Trek's" 826 00:34:37,983 --> 00:34:40,318 most momentous tragedies. 827 00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:41,912 - We thought, well, let's create 828 00:34:42,071 --> 00:34:44,239 a great death scene like a great actor would do. 829 00:34:44,323 --> 00:34:46,991 - Perhaps even more traumatic than the death of Spock, 830 00:34:47,076 --> 00:34:48,752 especially for Gene, 831 00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:51,663 was the demise of the Enterprise itself. 832 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:52,831 - He said that's a character. 833 00:34:52,915 --> 00:34:54,424 Audiences love the Enterprise, 834 00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:56,417 that's their home away from home. 835 00:34:56,502 --> 00:34:59,513 - That's the premise, you know? It's not me and my friends, 836 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,181 it's these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. 837 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,599 - And you're gonna blow it up? 838 00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:04,425 - But if the ship was going to go down, 839 00:35:04,510 --> 00:35:07,020 it was going to go down in a blaze of glory, 840 00:35:07,179 --> 00:35:09,514 thanks to some ILM magic. 841 00:35:09,598 --> 00:35:11,525 - When we got to the final blow up, 842 00:35:11,684 --> 00:35:14,269 at the last second, I remember, hey, give me some talcum powder 843 00:35:14,353 --> 00:35:16,354 and I just sprinkled it on top of the ship. 844 00:35:16,438 --> 00:35:18,773 So when it goes off-- you can see it in the movie, too-- 845 00:35:18,866 --> 00:35:21,284 This interesting sort of fine stuff comes up... 846 00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:24,279 (explosion) 847 00:35:24,363 --> 00:35:25,956 Which added to the scale of it. 848 00:35:26,115 --> 00:35:28,542 - And made the whole thing really, really fun to blow up. 849 00:35:28,701 --> 00:35:30,877 - I personally am very hurt 850 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,712 by the destruction of the Enterprise. 851 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:35,874 I feel that more deeply than I did the death of Spock. 852 00:35:35,958 --> 00:35:37,959 - And he wasn't the only one. 853 00:35:38,043 --> 00:35:40,795 - The movie was coming out, I made a point of saying, well, 854 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,298 I finally got to blow up that Enterprise ship, 855 00:35:43,391 --> 00:35:44,724 it's such a pain to shoot. 856 00:35:44,884 --> 00:35:47,302 And I got like, death rates. 857 00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:48,970 (narrator) Welcome to the club. 858 00:35:49,054 --> 00:35:51,389 - It's like, whoa, okay, no more jokes. 859 00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,316 - Whatever fans thought of this, 860 00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:55,235 they loved the film. 861 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,228 "Star Trek: The Search for Spock" raked in 862 00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:00,982 in a cool $87 million, 863 00:36:01,075 --> 00:36:04,485 essentially guaranteeing another outing. 864 00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,238 - I think this is really the best "Star Trek" yet. 865 00:36:07,323 --> 00:36:10,825 Leonard Nimoy has turned in, I think, a magnificent job. 866 00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:12,577 - That point in time felt like the original cast 867 00:36:12,661 --> 00:36:14,662 was still gonna keep doing some features. 868 00:36:14,747 --> 00:36:17,424 - Even if Kirk and crew would need a new ride. 869 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:19,593 - Jeff Katzenberg tells Leonard Nimoy, 870 00:36:19,752 --> 00:36:21,428 we want you to make "Star Trek IV". 871 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,346 (narrator) Leonard quickly accepted. 872 00:36:23,505 --> 00:36:25,599 But "Star Trek IV" needed a script, 873 00:36:25,758 --> 00:36:28,602 and Leonard got a story pitch from an unlikely source. 874 00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:31,271 - Jeffrey Katzenberg calls up Leonard Nimoy and tells him 875 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:33,598 I either have what is the greatest idea of all time 876 00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:35,275 or the worst idea of all time. 877 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:37,444 - Which was enough to make Leonard's ears perk up. 878 00:36:37,603 --> 00:36:40,939 - And that idea is Eddie Murphy has been mentioning how much 879 00:36:41,023 --> 00:36:42,616 of a "Star Trek" fan he is. 880 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:43,858 - Yeah, I'm a Trekkie. 881 00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:45,443 - Get outta here, I'm a Trekkie. 882 00:36:45,527 --> 00:36:47,287 (narrator) So a script for "Star Trek IV" 883 00:36:47,371 --> 00:36:49,456 was commissioned featuring none other than 884 00:36:49,615 --> 00:36:51,699 the biggest star on the Paramount lot. 885 00:36:51,784 --> 00:36:53,868 - Eddie Murphy was going to play an English professor 886 00:36:53,953 --> 00:36:55,295 who was a little bit different. 887 00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:56,963 (narrator) A nutty English professor 888 00:36:57,048 --> 00:37:00,291 who had a thing for UFOs and whale songs. 889 00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:02,552 - The crew of the Enterprise searching for whales. 890 00:37:02,711 --> 00:37:04,471 - But unfortunately... - It just didn't work. 891 00:37:04,555 --> 00:37:06,556 It was too convoluted. 892 00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,300 How do you balance out the comedy with the science fiction? 893 00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:13,471 - But one idea that survived was the whales, because in 1986, 894 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,057 whales were big. - About 45 to 50 feet long. 895 00:37:16,141 --> 00:37:18,735 - Bigger than usual. - Now they need a script. 896 00:37:18,894 --> 00:37:20,737 - And Harve Bennett agreed to write it, 897 00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:23,982 but he needed help from an old friend. 898 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,743 (Nicholas) I got an emergency call saying, help, help. 899 00:37:26,902 --> 00:37:28,411 We had this script, we threw it out. 900 00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:30,997 We want to start over. I said, what's the story? 901 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,832 And I remember Leonard's first words. 902 00:37:32,992 --> 00:37:34,417 He said "something nice". 903 00:37:38,747 --> 00:37:40,006 (narrator) "Star Trek VI" was still just 904 00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:41,582 a twinkle in director Leonard Nimoy's eye 905 00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:43,668 but Paramount needed more than that. 906 00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,263 They needed a story and someone to write it. 907 00:37:46,422 --> 00:37:47,597 - They need it fast. - Which is nothing new 908 00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:49,424 for this experienced crew. 909 00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:51,259 - Harve Bennett decides he can write it. 910 00:37:51,343 --> 00:37:52,602 - But he's not going to do it alone. 911 00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,355 He asked for help from a familiar face. 912 00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:57,357 - And Harve said, I'll write the outer space parts 913 00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,183 and you write the Earth parts. 914 00:37:59,268 --> 00:38:00,685 (narrator) Producer Harve Bennett and Nimoy 915 00:38:00,769 --> 00:38:02,937 had already devised a story with 916 00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:05,023 all the classic "Star Trek" ingredients. 917 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:06,691 Klingons, time travel, 918 00:38:06,775 --> 00:38:08,868 and large water-dwelling mammals. 919 00:38:09,028 --> 00:38:11,288 - Specifically humpback whales. 920 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:13,707 - Which are extinct in the future, yet very necessary. 921 00:38:13,866 --> 00:38:15,616 To ward off an alien probe. 922 00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,785 - You're proposing that we go backwards 923 00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:21,548 in time to find humpback whales, then bring them forward in time, 924 00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:24,134 drop them off and hope to hell they tell this probe 925 00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:25,635 what to go do with itself. 926 00:38:25,794 --> 00:38:27,128 - That's the general idea. - Well, that's crazy. 927 00:38:27,221 --> 00:38:29,130 - You got a better idea? Now's the time. 928 00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:31,549 - I thought the story was a little out there. 929 00:38:31,633 --> 00:38:33,634 Like, save the whales? Okay. 930 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,303 (narrator) But in an early draft, 931 00:38:35,387 --> 00:38:37,314 Spock had much bigger problems than a whale. 932 00:38:37,473 --> 00:38:39,557 - We would have learned that Saavick was pregnant 933 00:38:39,641 --> 00:38:42,402 with Spock's child. 934 00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:45,646 (narrator) Which was the offspring of this encounter with teenage Spock, 935 00:38:45,731 --> 00:38:50,076 arguably modern cinema's most romantic high-five. 936 00:38:50,235 --> 00:38:52,162 But ultimately, there was only room 937 00:38:52,321 --> 00:38:54,822 for one Vulcan on this trip back in time. 938 00:38:54,907 --> 00:38:57,417 - Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, 939 00:38:57,576 --> 00:39:00,420 I believe we have arrived at the latter half of the 20th century. 940 00:39:00,504 --> 00:39:02,505 - Everybody remember where we parked. 941 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:04,665 - And even though this movie was about whales... 942 00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:06,676 - It was always intended to be, you know, 943 00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:08,753 a fish out of water story. 944 00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:11,181 - I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space. 945 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,099 (Catherine Hicks) It's ecological, it's relevant. 946 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,517 If you do a "Star Trek" film, 947 00:39:14,676 --> 00:39:16,594 that's the one to do if you're not into sci-fi. 948 00:39:16,687 --> 00:39:19,180 - It didn't take long for newcomer Catherine Hicks 949 00:39:19,264 --> 00:39:22,525 to realize she'd have to fight not only for her whales, 950 00:39:22,684 --> 00:39:25,612 but also for her space in this crowded film. 951 00:39:25,771 --> 00:39:28,198 - Your friend was messing up my tanks and messing up my whales. 952 00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:29,524 - They like you very much, 953 00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:31,275 but they are not the hell "your whales." 954 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,363 - Bill Shatner, I love him, I swear to God. 955 00:39:35,447 --> 00:39:38,616 But, you know, it's like he is an annoying brother. 956 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,368 - Like annoying brothers, 957 00:39:40,452 --> 00:39:42,379 he had a habit of getting in the way. 958 00:39:42,463 --> 00:39:44,464 - He wanted to be in my shot. I want to single. 959 00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:47,217 I go to Leonard and say get him out of my shot, Leonard. 960 00:39:47,376 --> 00:39:49,210 - Yeah, speak up. - She was demanding. 961 00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:50,470 She wanted to know what's going on now. 962 00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:52,547 As she should. - (narrator) Once again, 963 00:39:52,631 --> 00:39:56,134 it was the special effects from ILM that took center stage. 964 00:39:56,227 --> 00:40:00,230 - Got a call both from Leonard and Harve Bennett begging me 965 00:40:00,314 --> 00:40:01,722 to take the show over. 966 00:40:01,816 --> 00:40:04,725 - After early effects fell short of the mark. 967 00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:07,478 - It was a 911 call. - So Ken and his team were 968 00:40:07,571 --> 00:40:09,656 brought in to save the day, but they had to do it... 969 00:40:09,815 --> 00:40:11,658 - As cheaply as possible. 970 00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:13,401 - Starfleet command, we're tracking 971 00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:15,412 a probe of unknown origin. 972 00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:18,739 - Ken's first task, fix the design of the alien probe. 973 00:40:18,824 --> 00:40:20,825 - All I saw was a big water heater. 974 00:40:20,909 --> 00:40:23,411 - With no time or money to burn, Ken thought... 975 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,171 - I can't design another ship. 976 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,747 What am I going to do to hide this thing? 977 00:40:26,832 --> 00:40:28,842 - The solution had two parts. One... 978 00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:32,762 I painted it glossy black. - Ahh, much better. And two? 979 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:34,514 - Lit it in ways where it kind of came and went. 980 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:38,176 - Reminiscent of the monolith in Kubrick's "2001". 981 00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:39,602 - I hoped. (laughs) 982 00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:41,354 No offense to whoever designed it. 983 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,441 - But there would be no hiding the whales. 984 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,859 - I remember there was a guy named Walt Conti 985 00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,769 who had designed these whales. 986 00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:51,114 He was able to remote control them, 987 00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:53,783 and they swam so properly, 988 00:40:53,868 --> 00:40:56,619 I think "National Geographic" actually called to find out 989 00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:59,456 how we had photographed real whales like that. 990 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,282 - But there was one scene that couldn't be done 991 00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:03,451 even with the best animatronics. 992 00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,536 (Jay) It was a sequence that involved 993 00:41:05,621 --> 00:41:08,548 going inside of Kirk's thoughts. 994 00:41:08,707 --> 00:41:11,375 There were these blobby, liquid-y shapes. 995 00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:13,219 - It turns into this surreal 996 00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,546 Ingmar Bergman something or other. 997 00:41:15,631 --> 00:41:18,975 - And it was even more confusing than Swedish art house cinema. 998 00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:21,478 - I was trying to do something artistic and interesting, 999 00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,305 but what resulted was more... - Artsy fartsy. 1000 00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:26,224 Oh, I hated that sequence. 1001 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:29,819 - Whatever it was, this unlikely comedic opera of whale song 1002 00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:32,980 and environmental messages brought a whole new audience 1003 00:41:33,065 --> 00:41:38,402 to "Star Trek", raking in $133 million worldwide. 1004 00:41:38,487 --> 00:41:40,738 - "Star Trek IV" is really a crossover movie. 1005 00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:44,584 A lot of fans who are starting to show their new girlfriend 1006 00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:47,328 or boyfriend "Star Trek", you start with "Star Trek IV". 1007 00:41:47,412 --> 00:41:51,916 - It's the least "Star Trek-y" of all the "Star Trek" movies. 1008 00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:54,260 - You're very perceptive. And that's just good writing. 1009 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:55,920 That's good writing and good storytelling 1010 00:41:56,004 --> 00:41:58,589 on Harve Bennett's and Nick Meyer's part. 1011 00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:01,684 - Thanks in part to the whales, Nimoy went on to have 1012 00:42:01,843 --> 00:42:03,853 a whale of a time directing hit comedies. 1013 00:42:04,012 --> 00:42:07,598 - And that run of II, III, and IV worked so well 1014 00:42:07,683 --> 00:42:09,442 creatively and commercially, 1015 00:42:09,601 --> 00:42:11,277 it's almost like a foregone conclusion 1016 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,112 that this is now a franchise. 1017 00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:17,275 - Ironically, "Star Trek's" greatest silver screen triumph 1018 00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:18,618 would lead the franchise back 1019 00:42:18,777 --> 00:42:21,704 to its humble origins in television. 1020 00:42:21,863 --> 00:42:24,624 - 1986, "Voyage Home" is a huge hit 1021 00:42:24,783 --> 00:42:27,460 and the local station's saying, 1022 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,870 guys, can you please do something? 1023 00:42:29,955 --> 00:42:32,966 We've had these same damn little 80 one-hour episodes 1024 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:36,386 we've been showing for 15 years now. 1025 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,805 But if you would just make some more "Star Trek" for us 1026 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:41,048 on TV, we'd all make more money. 1027 00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:44,310 - And it's within several months of the film's success 1028 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:45,803 that they announce, really announced that 1029 00:42:45,887 --> 00:42:48,731 "Next Generation" is going to be a reality.83818

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