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-In September 1978,
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one of the contestants on a U.S.
TV show called "The Dating Game"
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was hiding a deadly secret.
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Nobody knew it, but the bachelor
in seat number one
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was responsible
for the death of four women.
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-Please welcome Rodney Alcala.
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Rod, welcome.
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-When I found out he was
a serial killer,
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it was like, "Bing."
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It just all came together
like a slap in the face.
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-By the time 35-year-old
Rodney Alcala
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was finally arrested
10 months later,
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he had killed another two women
and a 12-year-old girl.
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Pictures of missing persons
found hidden away
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pointed towards there being
even more victims.
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-I think the day he rots away
and finally dies
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will be a good day
for the whole world.
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-After two convictions
were quashed,
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Alcala was given
the death sentence
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for a third time in 2010.
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-I really hope that he's
suffering and that, one day,
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I get that phone call
that he is gone,
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and nobody will ever have
to hear his name again.
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-Rodney Alcala
will go down in history
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as one of the world's
most evil killers.
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It was a murder
that stunned a community.
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When the remains
of 12-year-old Robin Samsoe
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were found
on July the 2nd, 1979,
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the schoolgirl had already
been missing for 12 days.
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The police were certain
that the killer
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was a 35-year-old photographer
named Rodney Alcala.
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After his arrest, hundreds
of pictures of young women
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were found in his possession,
but who were they?
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It would take 34 years
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before Alcala was finally found
to be responsible
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for the death of at least
seven women across two states.
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Orange County Deputy D.A.
Matt Murphy
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was the third prosecutor
to take Alcala
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to trial for the murder
of Robin Samsoe
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after the first two
death-penalty sentences
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were overturned.
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-The tough part about that
and what nobody thinks about
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is there's a victim's
family involved in this.
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And Robin Samsoe had
a mother who loved her,
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and she had brothers
who loved her.
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She had friends who loved her.
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And every time
the case gets reversed,
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you have to drag
the family through this,
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and they have to go through
the process again.
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I don't think
it's a stretch to say
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this ruined the life
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of this girl's poor mother.
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-At Alcala's third trial
in January 2010,
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the convicted killer
decided to defend himself.
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District Attorney Matt
spent weeks
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sparring with the 67-year-old
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and had to treat him
with respect in the courtroom.
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-After my closing argument,
that's when he realized --
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After I pointed at him
and called him the devil,
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he realized I wasn't his buddy.
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I think the day he rots away
and finally dies
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will be a good day
for the whole world.
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-This killer's story began
over 70 years ago.
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Rodney Alcala was born
in San Antonio, Texas,
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on the 23rd of August, 1943.
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-He was, on the surface,
a perfectly normal boy --
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didn't kill small animals
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or do any of those
other horrible things
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that serial killers
tend to on to do.
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But in 1951, when he was 8,
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his grandmother, who was ill,
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decided that she wanted
to go back to die in Mexico.
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And so the whole family
left Texas
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and went to Mexico.
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-But while living south
of the U.S. border,
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Alcala's father
left the family home
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to start a new life.
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-The father abandons the family
at that point in time
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and then goes back
to living in the U.S.,
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and I think that's quite
a significant thing.
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I think that Alcala's
relationship with his father
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was quite an important
one to him.
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And I think that's something
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that stayed with Alcala
throughout his life,
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and I think it does feed
into his offending behavior.
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-Age 12, Alcala's mother
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moved him and his three siblings
to Los Angeles
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to start a new life
back in the U.S.
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-He's popular.
He's on the yearbook committee.
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He plays the piano.
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He runs for the school.
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He has girlfriends.
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He's, on the surface,
an All-American,
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or All-Mexican-American boy.
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-After graduating
from high school,
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Alcala joined the Army.
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But his time was cut short
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after a death in the family
had a devastating effect on him.
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-Whilst he's in the Army,
he has a nervous breakdown,
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and this is after
his father has died.
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And he's given a medical
discharge from the Army
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because he has
this nervous breakdown,
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and then he kind of goes off
the radar for a while.
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So I think this is the period
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in which he starts,
perhaps, fantasizing.
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His offending starts
to take shape in his mind,
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if not in reality.
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-And in September 1968,
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Alcala committed
a horrific crime.
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He lured an 8-year-old girl
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into his Hollywood home.
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-This is the worst nightmare
for any parent.
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Rodney Alcala and people
like him are the reason
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why you can't send your kids
walking to school alone.
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He kidnaps her.
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He rapes her.
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A good Samaritan sees her
get into his car,
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and it doesn't look right.
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And he follows the car
to the house,
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and it doesn't look right.
Now, this is 1968,
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so it's long before cellphones.
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He finds a pay phone,
calls it in.
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The police get there,
knock on the door.
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Rodney shows up naked
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and says,
"Hey. I'll be right with you."
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-The 25-year-old Alcala
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wasn't planning on
getting caught red-handed.
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-He runs out
the back naked, okay,
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and the police officer,
who's by himself, looks down,
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and it's one of those situations
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where it's save this bleeding
little girl on the floor
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who's unconscious
and very close to death --
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She was in a coma for 33 days
after this happened --
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So it's save the little girl
or catch the bad guy
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running out of the back,
and he did the right thing.
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He saved the little girl.
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But that meant Alcala got away.
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-It was a horrifically depraved
and violent attack on a child
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that seemingly
came out of nowhere.
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-Where was the motive for that?
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There was no sexual abuse that
we know of in his childhood.
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There was no antipathy to women.
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It was an unexpected bolt
from the blue.
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-Alcala decided to run away
from his crimes --
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3,000 miles across the U.S.
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-He does not hang around.
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He decides to leave Los Angeles
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and turns up in New York,
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where he enlists
in the New York Film School
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under the name of John Berger.
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-This is quite a cunning way
of both avoiding detection
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and of starting to build up
these new personas,
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these knew characters,
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to present to the people
that he comes into contact with.
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So he's somebody who can put on
and shed identities
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just like a snake,
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and that's how
I describe Alcala.
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He's constantly shedding his
skin and reinventing himself.
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-Under the name John Berger,
Rodney Alcala
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had begun teaching at
a summer camp in New Hampshire.
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But by July 1971,
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his time was running out.
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Three years after the attack
on the 8-year-old girl
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in his own home,
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Alcala was still
the prime suspect,
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and he was added to the FBI's
nationwide 10 most-wanted list.
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He was soon spotted
by two of his students.
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-So two of these girls
go to the post office
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to mail a letter,
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and they see
Rodney Alcala's picture
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under the name of,
you know, Rodney Alcala.
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They're like,
"Hey. That's Mr. Berger.
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He works at the camp."
So that's how he got caught.
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They extradite him
back to California,
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and they try him
for the kidnapping,
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and he received a life sentence.
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-But unbelievably,
in August 1975,
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after serving
less than three years,
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Alcala was freed
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and soon found work
as a photographer.
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-I have no idea what
the parole board was thinking.
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They're looking at this guy.
He kidnapped,
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raped, and almost murdered
an 8-year-old little girl
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who was a stranger.
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Wasn't even somebody
that lived in his house.
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This was a girl
walking down the street.
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That is as predatory,
pathological, and psychotic
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as you can possibly get.
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And they released him
after 34 months.
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He had a life sentence.
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They released him
after 34 months.
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-But his freedom
didn't last long.
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Just two months later,
Alcala was arrested once more,
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this time for plying
a minor with drugs.
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-He leaves state custody
in August.
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In October, he kidnaps
a 13-year-old
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and provides her with marijuana.
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And he's convicted
of breaking his parole
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and selling drugs to a minor.
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He goes back to jail.
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-Again, Alcala's stay in prison
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was surprisingly brief.
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He was declared reformed
by authorities
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after 2 1/2 years.
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In the summer of 1977,
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he was allowed,
by his parole officer,
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to head back to New York.
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-There's a huge lesson here
on Rodney Alcala,
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because people are starting
to do this again.
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In California,
the pendulum is swinging
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back towards early release,
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towards therapy for these guys,
all that sort of thing.
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People like Rodney Alcala,
when they get out,
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they are going
to kill other people.
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Sex offenders do not
get better, okay?
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All the treatment in the world
does not fix sex offenders.
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So if you release violent sex
offenders like Rodney Alcala,
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at the very least, they're going
to commit additional rapes
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or child molestations.
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-Alcala's stay
in New York was brief.
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In September 1977,
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he was back
in Southern California.
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Two years later,
12-year-old Robin Samsoe
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would disappear after being
approached by a photographer
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on Huntington Beach.
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By the summer of 1979,
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convicted child molester
Rodney Alcala
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had been in prison twice
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and was flitting between
two separate lives --
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one in California
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and one in New York.
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The 35-year-old was unemployed
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but remained a keen
amateur photographer.
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On June the 20th, 1979,
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12-year-old Robin Samsoe
disappeared
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after speaking to a stranger
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on Huntington Beach
in Orange County, California.
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-He approached Robin
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and her friend,
who was also 12 years old.
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They were sunbathing
on Huntington Beach
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right before
Robin's ballet lesson,
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and he said, "Hey.
I'm in a photography contest.
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Will you allow me
to take your picture?"
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This photographer
was a suspect right away,
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because 45 minutes later,
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Robin disappeared
and was never seen again.
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-Robin had last been spotted
on her bicycle
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heading to her ballet class.
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The following morning,
250
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police officer Steve Mack
251
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reported for duty.
252
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-I'd only been with the City
of Huntington Beach for a year.
253
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We go to briefings
in the morning,
254
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and they give us any crimes that
have occurred during the evening
255
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that we should be
on the lookout for.
256
00:12:07,054 --> 00:12:08,704
And that morning, on the 21st,
257
00:12:08,774 --> 00:12:11,184
they told of us
Robin's disappearance
258
00:12:11,254 --> 00:12:12,754
and the description
of the bicycle
259
00:12:12,827 --> 00:12:15,747
that she was riding at the time
of her disappearance.
260
00:12:15,827 --> 00:12:19,947
-The vanishing of Robin Samsoe
rocked Orange County.
261
00:12:20,027 --> 00:12:22,107
-This was an extreme rarity
in Huntington Beach.
262
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It was a bedroom community,
quite quiet and peaceful.
263
00:12:25,861 --> 00:12:28,121
We get literally hundreds
of thousands of people
264
00:12:28,194 --> 00:12:30,994
coming to our beach annually
265
00:12:31,067 --> 00:12:33,767
because of its serenity
and beauty.
266
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They put out a press release,
267
00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:39,031
and they talked to one
of Robin's friends
268
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that she was with the day before
269
00:12:41,481 --> 00:12:43,481
and obtained a composite
of a person
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00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:46,964
that had been taking photographs
of them at the beach.
271
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As patrol officers, we began
scouring the alleys
272
00:12:50,494 --> 00:12:53,334
and behind grocery stores
and shopping centers
273
00:12:53,407 --> 00:12:55,907
looking to see if the bicycle
had been discarded.
274
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For probably the next two weeks,
275
00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:00,467
the alleys and behind
shopping centers
276
00:13:00,541 --> 00:13:02,101
were probably some
of the safest places,
277
00:13:02,174 --> 00:13:04,854
because even though
they'd been checked
278
00:13:04,721 --> 00:13:06,311
at 10:00 in the morning,
279
00:13:06,381 --> 00:13:09,631
somebody was probably driving by
at 2:00 in the afternoon.
280
00:13:09,401 --> 00:13:13,071
Everybody wanted to find
that bicycle.
281
00:13:13,141 --> 00:13:15,591
-The description
of the potential kidnapper
282
00:13:15,667 --> 00:13:19,467
given to a police sketch artist
by Robin's friend
283
00:13:19,041 --> 00:13:23,331
looked remarkably similar
to a known child molester.
284
00:13:23,407 --> 00:13:24,987
-This was a big deal media-wise
285
00:13:25,067 --> 00:13:27,047
because we had a missing
12-year-old girl.
286
00:13:27,127 --> 00:13:29,887
And Alcala's parole officer
287
00:13:29,961 --> 00:13:32,221
saw the composite on TV,
288
00:13:32,294 --> 00:13:33,524
and he called detectives
and said,
289
00:13:33,594 --> 00:13:36,104
"You guys need to check out
Rodney Alcala.
290
00:13:36,174 --> 00:13:39,854
It looks like him.
It sounds like him.
291
00:13:39,921 --> 00:13:41,631
You got to look
at Rodney Alcala."
292
00:13:41,701 --> 00:13:46,491
And like 15 minutes after
they received that phone call,
293
00:13:46,568 --> 00:13:49,388
one of the cops is home,
turns on the TV
294
00:13:49,467 --> 00:13:52,797
and sees Alcala
on "The Dating Game."
295
00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:54,954
-Bachelor number one
is a successful photographer.
296
00:13:55,021 --> 00:13:57,091
Please welcome Rodney Alcala.
297
00:13:57,167 --> 00:13:59,237
Rod, welcome.
298
00:13:59,314 --> 00:14:01,634
-And the host introduced
the bachelors,
299
00:14:01,707 --> 00:14:05,807
and bachelor number one
was Rodney Alcala.
300
00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:08,347
The detective frantically tried
to call the police department
301
00:14:08,421 --> 00:14:10,491
and let other detectives know
that he was on television
302
00:14:10,401 --> 00:14:14,371
so that they could
turn it on and see him.
303
00:14:14,447 --> 00:14:17,197
-Alcala's appearance
on the program,
304
00:14:17,274 --> 00:14:19,314
where women pick
eligible bachelors
305
00:14:19,387 --> 00:14:21,227
without seeing their faces,
306
00:14:21,307 --> 00:14:25,897
was recorded 10 months earlier
in September 1978.
307
00:14:25,974 --> 00:14:28,034
On the show that day with Alcala
308
00:14:28,107 --> 00:14:30,707
was actor Jed Mills.
309
00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:34,467
-The vibes I got from him,
while we were doing the show
310
00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:37,161
and backstage and even during
the actual filming
311
00:14:37,234 --> 00:14:39,314
were not good vibes.
312
00:14:39,387 --> 00:14:41,087
There was something wrong
with this guy.
313
00:14:41,167 --> 00:14:43,957
-Jed had met Alcala backstage
314
00:14:44,034 --> 00:14:46,184
before the recording.
315
00:14:46,254 --> 00:14:48,074
-Didn't talk much. We were guys,
316
00:14:48,147 --> 00:14:50,127
and he was this
rather good-looking,
317
00:14:50,201 --> 00:14:51,711
creepy-looking guy, though.
318
00:14:51,781 --> 00:14:55,561
He had the weirdest
football haircut.
319
00:14:55,634 --> 00:14:57,684
You know, everything
was, like, perfect.
320
00:14:57,754 --> 00:14:59,514
The other guy and I were
getting along very nicely,
321
00:14:59,587 --> 00:15:00,797
and we were talking
about this and that.
322
00:15:00,874 --> 00:15:05,414
And every now and then, this
creepy guy would say something.
323
00:15:05,487 --> 00:15:06,777
Like, he had an attitude,
324
00:15:06,854 --> 00:15:09,154
'cause he knew better
than everybody else.
325
00:15:09,227 --> 00:15:10,977
-When the cameras
began rolling,
326
00:15:11,054 --> 00:15:14,184
Alcala turned on the charm.
327
00:15:14,254 --> 00:15:15,814
-I'm called "The Banana,"
328
00:15:15,887 --> 00:15:18,107
and I look really good.
329
00:15:20,421 --> 00:15:22,861
-Can you be a little
more descriptive?
330
00:15:22,934 --> 00:15:24,694
Peel me.
331
00:15:24,767 --> 00:15:28,527
-On "The Dating Game" show,
the woman questioner
332
00:15:28,601 --> 00:15:32,871
asks each of
the eligible bachelors...
333
00:15:32,947 --> 00:15:35,467
"I'm going to eat you.
334
00:15:35,541 --> 00:15:37,601
What food are you?"
335
00:15:37,674 --> 00:15:39,414
So Alcala, when he gave
his answer, says,
336
00:15:39,321 --> 00:15:42,031
"Well, I'm a banana. Unpeel me."
337
00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:43,527
-And I said, "Oh, my God.
338
00:15:43,601 --> 00:15:45,451
This guys is such a creep."
339
00:15:45,521 --> 00:15:48,871
-But it was enough
to win him the date.
340
00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,968
-Well, I like bananas,
so I'll take one.
341
00:15:52,048 --> 00:15:53,948
-Number one,
bachelor number one. All right.
342
00:15:54,027 --> 00:15:56,507
-On the outside, Alcala appeared
343
00:15:56,587 --> 00:15:59,127
to be a charming,
good-looking man.
344
00:15:59,201 --> 00:16:02,791
But deep inside, he was
hiding a dark history.
345
00:16:02,861 --> 00:16:04,791
What the viewing public
didn't know
346
00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:09,067
was that contestant number one
was a serial killer.
347
00:16:09,141 --> 00:16:13,241
By the time he appeared
on the show in September 1978,
348
00:16:13,314 --> 00:16:16,644
Alcala had already
killed five women.
349
00:16:16,714 --> 00:16:18,864
Over 35 years on,
350
00:16:18,801 --> 00:16:23,271
Jed Mills still feels anger
towards his fellow contestant.
351
00:16:23,341 --> 00:16:26,871
-Thinking back on it,
it was very scary.
352
00:16:26,941 --> 00:16:30,061
It was spooky, you know, that
I was in a room with this guy.
353
00:16:30,134 --> 00:16:32,174
Had I known, I'd have
killed him right there
354
00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:34,671
with my bare hands, you know --
355
00:16:34,741 --> 00:16:37,821
that he's killing women.
356
00:16:37,894 --> 00:16:40,324
Horrible, just horrible.
357
00:16:40,394 --> 00:16:43,834
-Prior to his national
TV appearance,
358
00:16:43,901 --> 00:16:48,031
Alcala had already murdered
23-year-old Cornelia Crilley
359
00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:51,667
in June 1971 in New York.
360
00:16:51,747 --> 00:16:54,507
And then in July 1977,
361
00:16:54,587 --> 00:16:56,867
he killed another young woman
in the city --
362
00:16:56,941 --> 00:16:59,901
23-year-old Ellen Hover.
363
00:16:59,974 --> 00:17:02,514
Over the following 12 months,
he struck again,
364
00:17:02,587 --> 00:17:05,907
this time
in Southern California.
365
00:17:05,987 --> 00:17:07,757
Among his innocent victims,
366
00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:11,114
18-year-old Jill Barcomb,
367
00:17:11,188 --> 00:17:14,988
27-year-old Georgia Wixted,
368
00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:17,798
and 32-year-old Charlotte Lamb.
369
00:17:17,874 --> 00:17:20,494
All were murdered
by the 34-year-old
370
00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:24,381
who was now hiding
in plain sight.
371
00:17:24,454 --> 00:17:26,314
-Most serial killers
or killers in general
372
00:17:26,387 --> 00:17:28,307
want to avoid detection,
want to avoid publicity,
373
00:17:28,387 --> 00:17:29,557
want to avoid the spotlight.
374
00:17:29,634 --> 00:17:31,524
And this guy was actually
seeking it out,
375
00:17:31,594 --> 00:17:35,394
which is, you know, an
indication of his personality.
376
00:17:35,461 --> 00:17:37,571
-He really does love
being in the limelight,
377
00:17:37,641 --> 00:17:39,771
so I think he would've
really enjoyed a pairing
378
00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:42,351
on that dating show in the 1970s
379
00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:44,331
because he's the center
of attention.
380
00:17:44,401 --> 00:17:45,811
He's the one
that this woman's picked,
381
00:17:45,881 --> 00:17:48,161
and he really is
on top of the world.
382
00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:51,174
-Serial killer Alcala's joy,
however,
383
00:17:51,241 --> 00:17:53,091
would be short-lived.
384
00:17:53,167 --> 00:17:55,987
-He's saying all of these
awfully cheesy things,
385
00:17:56,067 --> 00:17:57,277
and the audience
are laughing along,
386
00:17:57,354 --> 00:17:59,324
but this is a man who's killed.
387
00:17:59,394 --> 00:18:02,254
This is a man
who is going to kill again.
388
00:18:02,321 --> 00:18:03,501
And I think that the lady
389
00:18:03,574 --> 00:18:06,154
that was going to have
the date with him
390
00:18:06,221 --> 00:18:07,831
was lucky to escape
with her life,
391
00:18:07,907 --> 00:18:10,527
because she went
and chatted to him backstage
392
00:18:10,601 --> 00:18:12,361
just before they were about
to go on the date,
393
00:18:12,434 --> 00:18:13,524
and picked up on the fact
394
00:18:13,594 --> 00:18:15,974
there was something
a little bit creepy about him
395
00:18:15,481 --> 00:18:17,821
and decided not to go through
with that date.
396
00:18:17,894 --> 00:18:20,314
And I think that's probably
the best decision she ever made.
397
00:18:20,381 --> 00:18:22,471
-She did not go out with him,
you know,
398
00:18:22,548 --> 00:18:23,998
'cause he was too creepy.
399
00:18:24,074 --> 00:18:25,924
She did not keep the date.
400
00:18:25,994 --> 00:18:27,524
So even though he won,
401
00:18:27,594 --> 00:18:30,934
she refused to go
on the date with him.
402
00:18:31,008 --> 00:18:32,348
-So that kind of gives you
an indication
403
00:18:32,421 --> 00:18:33,951
of what kind of person
you're dealing with
404
00:18:34,021 --> 00:18:37,131
where, on the surface, when she
only could hear his voice
405
00:18:36,801 --> 00:18:38,951
and then ultimately
see his face, it's okay.
406
00:18:39,021 --> 00:18:40,811
But then when she started
interacting with him
407
00:18:40,887 --> 00:18:42,797
on a more human level,
she realizes,
408
00:18:42,874 --> 00:18:44,394
"There's something
wrong with this guy
409
00:18:44,201 --> 00:18:46,111
that just makes me
uncomfortable."
410
00:18:46,181 --> 00:18:47,401
And as a female, she said no.
411
00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:52,134
-Now, whether Alcala took that
as a rejection,
412
00:18:52,207 --> 00:18:55,087
which I think is possible,
413
00:18:55,161 --> 00:18:57,941
it was no doubt an accelerant
414
00:18:58,014 --> 00:19:00,794
to his later killings.
415
00:19:00,861 --> 00:19:02,691
If you have
this narcissistic character,
416
00:19:02,768 --> 00:19:04,658
and suddenly, someone
turns him down,
417
00:19:04,734 --> 00:19:07,534
I think he takes his revenge
on women in general,
418
00:19:07,601 --> 00:19:09,401
women as a group.
419
00:19:09,474 --> 00:19:13,134
So anyone becomes fair prey.
420
00:19:13,201 --> 00:19:15,961
You then get a run of killings.
421
00:19:16,034 --> 00:19:20,554
-Eight months after his TV
debut, Alcala killed again.
422
00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,747
On the 14th of June, 1979,
423
00:19:23,827 --> 00:19:26,677
21-year-old Jill Parenteau
was found dead
424
00:19:26,754 --> 00:19:31,084
in her Burbank apartment
in Los Angeles county.
425
00:19:31,154 --> 00:19:33,704
And just six days later,
Rodney Alcala
426
00:19:33,774 --> 00:19:37,524
abducted 12-year-old
Robin Samsoe in Orange County.
427
00:19:37,594 --> 00:19:41,234
Her body was found
in the Angeles National Forest
428
00:19:40,801 --> 00:19:44,871
on July the 2nd, 1979.
429
00:19:44,947 --> 00:19:48,547
-Robin's body was discovered
12 days after her disappearance
430
00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:51,631
up in an area
called Chantry Flats.
431
00:19:51,701 --> 00:19:56,331
It was her remains.
He whole body wasn't found.
432
00:19:56,401 --> 00:19:59,711
Oddly enough, a forest ranger
433
00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,191
had seen Alcala,
434
00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:04,611
who we refer to
as "The Monster" --
435
00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:08,201
The family prefers
that his name never be used --
436
00:20:08,274 --> 00:20:12,584
dragging a blonde little girl
into the woods.
437
00:20:12,654 --> 00:20:14,874
And then it was 12 days later,
438
00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:18,207
they were doing
some fire prevention clean-out
439
00:20:18,287 --> 00:20:22,407
up in the area, and they came
across some human bones.
440
00:20:22,481 --> 00:20:24,421
-It was heartbreaking news.
441
00:20:24,494 --> 00:20:27,014
The entire state of California
442
00:20:27,081 --> 00:20:30,801
wanted to see justice
for the murder of Robin Samsoe.
443
00:20:30,874 --> 00:20:33,564
The police had
a number-one suspect,
444
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:36,724
but he had a history
of absconding.
445
00:20:36,794 --> 00:20:39,624
They needed
to find Rodney Alcala,
446
00:20:39,694 --> 00:20:42,504
and they needed to do it fast.
447
00:20:45,981 --> 00:20:48,511
In July 1979,
448
00:20:48,587 --> 00:20:51,537
detectives in
Orange County, California,
449
00:20:51,614 --> 00:20:53,074
had begun to investigate
450
00:20:53,147 --> 00:20:56,007
the murder
of 12-year-old Robin Samsoe
451
00:20:56,087 --> 00:20:57,787
after her remains
had been discovered
452
00:20:57,867 --> 00:21:00,647
in the Angeles National Forest.
453
00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:03,257
Having been seen on national TV
454
00:21:03,334 --> 00:21:05,594
and his face matched
to a sketch of a man
455
00:21:05,661 --> 00:21:08,751
seen in the area
where Robin had disappeared,
456
00:21:08,821 --> 00:21:12,791
detectives honed in
on Rodney Alcala.
457
00:21:12,867 --> 00:21:16,947
The convicted child molester
was now their prime suspect,
458
00:21:17,027 --> 00:21:19,047
and they were certain
he was culpable
459
00:21:19,127 --> 00:21:22,947
in the murder
of the little girl.
460
00:21:23,027 --> 00:21:26,227
-It turns to a homicide
investigation immediately,
461
00:21:26,307 --> 00:21:30,647
and the detectives ramp up their
investigation and work it hard.
462
00:21:30,721 --> 00:21:33,691
And ultimately,
Alcala is arrested
463
00:21:33,761 --> 00:21:36,431
on July 24th.
464
00:21:36,501 --> 00:21:39,511
-Alcala had been found
staying with his parents
465
00:21:39,587 --> 00:21:42,347
40 miles north of Huntington
Beach
466
00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,357
in Monterrey Park.
467
00:21:44,434 --> 00:21:45,694
-As luck would have it,
on the day
468
00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:47,837
that Alcala was arrested,
469
00:21:47,914 --> 00:21:50,304
they did a search warrant
at his house,
470
00:21:50,374 --> 00:21:52,634
and one of the detectives
saw a receipt
471
00:21:52,707 --> 00:21:54,497
for a storage facility
472
00:21:54,574 --> 00:21:57,354
in the Seattle area.
473
00:21:57,427 --> 00:21:59,747
-This discovery
would be the first step
474
00:21:59,827 --> 00:22:02,997
in unearthing
the secret murderous history
475
00:22:03,074 --> 00:22:05,944
of Rodney Alcala.
476
00:22:06,014 --> 00:22:07,914
-When we got into
his storage locker
477
00:22:07,981 --> 00:22:12,151
immediately after he was
identified and arrested,
478
00:22:12,221 --> 00:22:15,141
there's thousands
of photographs of young women
479
00:22:15,214 --> 00:22:19,014
and young boys
and adult women, young girls,
480
00:22:19,081 --> 00:22:22,201
that, to this day, we've been
unable to identify many of them.
481
00:22:22,274 --> 00:22:25,814
So being alone in the company
of Rodney Alcala,
482
00:22:25,881 --> 00:22:27,511
knowing what he did
to Robin Samsoe,
483
00:22:27,587 --> 00:22:29,527
we always suspected
that there were more victims.
484
00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:32,421
We just didn't know who they
were and couldn't prove it.
485
00:22:32,494 --> 00:22:35,094
-The photos
in the storage locker
486
00:22:35,001 --> 00:22:37,851
were not only of young girls.
487
00:22:37,521 --> 00:22:40,611
There were pictures
of boys, too.
488
00:22:40,687 --> 00:22:42,977
-So he's targeting
prepubescent girls.
489
00:22:43,054 --> 00:22:44,614
He's targeting women.
490
00:22:44,687 --> 00:22:47,357
Sometimes he taking pictures
of young boys.
491
00:22:47,434 --> 00:22:48,644
But I think we shouldn't look
492
00:22:48,714 --> 00:22:50,764
at the differences
between his victims.
493
00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:52,724
We need to look at
what they've all got in common,
494
00:22:52,794 --> 00:22:55,954
And they've all got in common
a particular vulnerability,
495
00:22:56,027 --> 00:22:58,117
something that he sees
as a weakness,
496
00:22:58,194 --> 00:23:01,734
something that he can prey on.
So that's what he's looking for,
497
00:23:01,801 --> 00:23:05,601
and it doesn't really matter
to him who he sees that in.
498
00:23:05,674 --> 00:23:09,434
-The photos suggested
that all the potential victims
499
00:23:09,501 --> 00:23:12,891
had willingly posed for Alcala.
500
00:23:12,968 --> 00:23:16,828
-Alcala is one of those strange
but not uncommon serial killers
501
00:23:16,907 --> 00:23:18,947
who has a high I.Q.,
502
00:23:18,521 --> 00:23:22,231
is fairly good-looking
by objective standards.
503
00:23:22,307 --> 00:23:24,437
And we've seen this before
with people like Ted Bundy
504
00:23:24,514 --> 00:23:27,004
and others, where, you know,
they could probably,
505
00:23:27,074 --> 00:23:28,944
you know,
attract women themselves
506
00:23:29,014 --> 00:23:32,384
and get into relationships with
women in a normal relationship.
507
00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:33,474
But for some reason,
508
00:23:33,541 --> 00:23:36,211
there's something very wrong
in their minds,
509
00:23:36,288 --> 00:23:38,528
and that they then
get involved with women
510
00:23:38,601 --> 00:23:40,171
and then have that
sexual relationship
511
00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:41,711
and then end up killing them.
512
00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:44,987
-In fact, Alcala
appears to be a person
513
00:23:45,061 --> 00:23:48,381
who could have achieved
many of his sexual desires
514
00:23:48,454 --> 00:23:51,914
without committing a homicide,
515
00:23:51,981 --> 00:23:55,281
and that makes him somewhat
mystifying as serial killers go.
516
00:23:55,354 --> 00:23:57,674
-The police did not know it yet,
517
00:23:57,741 --> 00:24:01,001
but Alcala had killed
at least seven women
518
00:24:01,074 --> 00:24:03,634
over the previous eight years.
519
00:24:03,707 --> 00:24:07,877
12-year-old Robin Samsoe
was his final victim.
520
00:24:07,954 --> 00:24:09,874
Over time, he had perfected
521
00:24:09,941 --> 00:24:13,191
his pernicious pickup technique.
522
00:24:13,268 --> 00:24:17,588
-Essentially, the nature
of Alcala's crimes were
523
00:24:17,361 --> 00:24:20,271
that he would present himself
to women,
524
00:24:20,347 --> 00:24:23,247
often through an alias,
as a photographer.
525
00:24:23,327 --> 00:24:25,477
He would basically
convince people
526
00:24:25,554 --> 00:24:27,564
that he was doing a photo shoot,
527
00:24:27,634 --> 00:24:30,254
that they were a desirable part
of the photo shoot.
528
00:24:30,327 --> 00:24:32,267
He would bring them
to the photo shoot,
529
00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:36,787
and then he would rape,
torture, and kill them.
530
00:24:36,861 --> 00:24:40,471
-Alcala is somebody who knows
what his victims want to hear.
531
00:24:40,547 --> 00:24:42,527
When he comes across
young women,
532
00:24:42,601 --> 00:24:45,991
he knows that he needs to appeal
to their better natures
533
00:24:45,761 --> 00:24:48,601
and to compliment them,
tell them how pretty they are,
534
00:24:48,674 --> 00:24:51,004
that they could be models,
that he's a photographer
535
00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:53,364
who can make all of this
happen for them.
536
00:24:53,434 --> 00:24:56,244
And he knows
how to sound genuine,
537
00:24:56,314 --> 00:24:58,304
so he's a very
accomplished predator.
538
00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:00,194
He sniffs out his prey,
539
00:25:00,261 --> 00:25:01,771
identifies their
vulnerabilities,
540
00:25:01,847 --> 00:25:03,547
and moves in for the kill.
541
00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:06,867
-As well as finding photographs
of unknown victims
542
00:25:06,941 --> 00:25:08,601
in the storage unit,
543
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,634
detectives also uncovered
544
00:25:10,707 --> 00:25:13,587
a bag of jewelry.
545
00:25:13,661 --> 00:25:16,131
-On the serial killers,
especially the rapists,
546
00:25:16,201 --> 00:25:19,211
they'll keep a little keepsake.
They'll keep a trophy.
547
00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:20,551
And we had a silk pouch
548
00:25:20,627 --> 00:25:24,487
with all kinds of unidentified
jewelry in there,
549
00:25:24,567 --> 00:25:26,197
stuff that we still,
to this day,
550
00:25:26,274 --> 00:25:30,154
have no idea where it came from
or who the jewelry belonged to.
551
00:25:30,221 --> 00:25:31,951
-They'll look at the trophy
that they kept,
552
00:25:32,021 --> 00:25:33,131
in this case, jewelry,
553
00:25:33,001 --> 00:25:36,891
and they can relive that crime
554
00:25:36,961 --> 00:25:39,161
by looking at this
piece of jewelry.
555
00:25:39,001 --> 00:25:42,971
The Monster was a sexually
sadistic serial killer.
556
00:25:43,048 --> 00:25:46,308
He literally fantasized
about these cases
557
00:25:46,381 --> 00:25:47,991
and relived them in his mind
558
00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:50,147
when he would look
at these items of jewelry,
559
00:25:50,227 --> 00:25:51,467
these trophies.
560
00:25:51,547 --> 00:25:54,027
-And one particular item
561
00:25:54,107 --> 00:25:58,187
gave investigators
their biggest clue yet.
562
00:25:58,261 --> 00:26:00,151
-One of the pairs
of earrings in there
563
00:25:59,921 --> 00:26:01,911
were gold-ball earrings
564
00:26:01,987 --> 00:26:04,437
that Robin's mother identified
565
00:26:04,514 --> 00:26:07,034
as the ones Robin was wearing.
566
00:26:07,107 --> 00:26:11,907
-It was evidence
that helped convince a jury.
567
00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:15,087
On June the 20th, 1980,
568
00:26:15,168 --> 00:26:17,518
Rodney Alcala
was sentenced to death
569
00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:20,494
for the murder of Samsoe.
570
00:26:20,561 --> 00:26:23,731
But his story
does not end there.
571
00:26:23,808 --> 00:26:28,668
By 1984, the conviction
had been overturned.
572
00:26:28,748 --> 00:26:30,638
-I think for everyone involved
in law enforcement,
573
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:33,754
it's always frustrating
when a convicted murdered
574
00:26:33,827 --> 00:26:35,987
has his sentence overturned.
575
00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:37,941
But it was first overturned
based on the fact
576
00:26:38,014 --> 00:26:41,314
that improper evidence was
introduced at the penalty phase.
577
00:26:41,387 --> 00:26:44,437
While we suspected that Robin
had been sexually assaulted,
578
00:26:44,514 --> 00:26:47,254
there was no physical
evidence to it at all.
579
00:26:47,327 --> 00:26:50,027
-The Supreme Court ruled
that the jury
580
00:26:50,101 --> 00:26:53,841
should not have been informed
of Alcala's conviction
581
00:26:53,481 --> 00:26:55,961
for molesting
the 8-year-old girl
582
00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:58,394
in 1968.
583
00:26:58,467 --> 00:27:00,317
He remained on remand,
584
00:27:00,394 --> 00:27:04,614
and at a second trial
in June 1986,
585
00:27:04,681 --> 00:27:09,241
Alcala was again found guilty
of Robin Samsoe's murder
586
00:27:09,314 --> 00:27:13,294
and sentenced to death
for a second time.
587
00:27:13,367 --> 00:27:16,577
But, once more,
the conviction was quashed
588
00:27:16,654 --> 00:27:19,854
in April 2001.
589
00:27:19,921 --> 00:27:23,011
-The Ninth Circuit Court
of Appeals felt that the defense
590
00:27:23,087 --> 00:27:26,647
didn't give him
adequate protection
591
00:27:26,727 --> 00:27:29,067
and that they should've
gone to the crime scene
592
00:27:29,141 --> 00:27:30,651
where the body was discovered,
593
00:27:30,721 --> 00:27:32,801
and, for that reason,
it was overturned.
594
00:27:32,874 --> 00:27:36,614
-Once again, Alcala remained
on remand
595
00:27:36,687 --> 00:27:39,327
while authorities considered
whether to try him
596
00:27:39,334 --> 00:27:43,514
for the murder of Robin Samsoe
for a third time.
597
00:27:43,587 --> 00:27:46,907
It was heartbreaking
for her family.
598
00:27:46,987 --> 00:27:48,977
-The Samsoe family
was devastated
599
00:27:49,054 --> 00:27:50,614
each time it was overturned.
600
00:27:50,321 --> 00:27:52,001
I know this
after talking to them.
601
00:27:52,074 --> 00:27:54,734
Through the years, I've become
friends with the family.
602
00:27:54,807 --> 00:27:58,427
I know their personal feelings
and their frustrations,
603
00:27:58,501 --> 00:28:01,371
and it was devastating
to Robin's mother,
604
00:28:01,441 --> 00:28:03,441
as well as her siblings.
605
00:28:03,514 --> 00:28:06,904
-Next in line
to prosecute the 58-year-old
606
00:28:06,974 --> 00:28:11,804
was Orange County Deputy D.A.
Matt Murphy.
607
00:28:11,874 --> 00:28:16,064
Since Alcala's arrest
in July 1979,
608
00:28:16,134 --> 00:28:18,754
technology had made
great advances.
609
00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:21,267
And investigators
had begun to look
610
00:28:21,348 --> 00:28:24,308
into other possible victims.
611
00:28:24,387 --> 00:28:27,367
-I obtained court orders with
the assistance of Matt Murphy
612
00:28:27,441 --> 00:28:29,471
from the District
Attorney's Office
613
00:28:29,547 --> 00:28:32,507
to get certain pieces of
evidence out of court evidence
614
00:28:32,587 --> 00:28:35,557
to have resubmitted
for DNA testing.
615
00:28:35,634 --> 00:28:38,084
In the 1980s, when these trials
were taking place,
616
00:28:38,154 --> 00:28:40,654
nobody had ever heard of DNA.
617
00:28:40,727 --> 00:28:43,507
Now there had been advancements
which, even since that time,
618
00:28:43,581 --> 00:28:45,731
have been further advanced.
619
00:28:45,808 --> 00:28:48,598
-Revisiting postmortem reports,
620
00:28:48,674 --> 00:28:53,154
investigators found that Alcala
was likely to be responsible
621
00:28:53,221 --> 00:28:56,911
for more deaths
than just Robin Samsoe's.
622
00:28:56,987 --> 00:28:59,547
-There were four unsolved
murders out of L.A. County.
623
00:28:59,621 --> 00:29:02,451
There was Jill Barcomb,
who was found on a fire road
624
00:29:02,454 --> 00:29:04,994
up in the mountains
about Hollywood.
625
00:29:05,067 --> 00:29:07,437
There was Georgia Wixted,
who was a young woman
626
00:29:07,514 --> 00:29:10,234
who'd just moved into
her own apartment in Malibu.
627
00:29:10,307 --> 00:29:12,897
There was Charlotte Lamb,
who was another woman
628
00:29:12,974 --> 00:29:14,754
who'd moved here
from the Midwest.
629
00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:17,111
She was found in a laundry room
in an apartment complex
630
00:29:17,187 --> 00:29:19,087
in the city of El Segundo.
631
00:29:19,161 --> 00:29:23,151
And then we have Jill Parenteau,
who lived in Burbank.
632
00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:24,451
We had these four murders.
633
00:29:24,528 --> 00:29:28,138
Now, three of them,
we had really good DNA,
634
00:29:28,214 --> 00:29:29,794
and one of the things
that was consistent
635
00:29:29,861 --> 00:29:32,231
with all of Rodney Alcala's
rapes and murders
636
00:29:32,307 --> 00:29:34,907
is that his semen was located
637
00:29:34,981 --> 00:29:37,361
in virtually every inch
of the body of these poor women.
638
00:29:37,434 --> 00:29:41,624
So they're --
These were long, ongoing,
639
00:29:41,361 --> 00:29:44,491
torturous murders and rapes.
640
00:29:44,561 --> 00:29:49,791
-Over the years, Alcala had
developed a familiar M.O.
641
00:29:49,867 --> 00:29:52,197
-He would kill, very often,
by strangulation.
642
00:29:52,274 --> 00:29:55,024
But before ultimately
killing somebody,
643
00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:57,884
he would strangle them
to the point of near death
644
00:29:57,954 --> 00:30:00,334
and then allow them
to be revived.
645
00:30:00,401 --> 00:30:02,041
Strangle them
to the point of death,
646
00:30:02,114 --> 00:30:04,234
allow them to be
returned to life,
647
00:30:04,301 --> 00:30:06,931
and then finally,
at some point, kill them.
648
00:30:07,007 --> 00:30:12,507
This is a man who got his
sexual excitement and arousal
649
00:30:12,281 --> 00:30:16,831
from being right there at
the precipice of life and death.
650
00:30:16,901 --> 00:30:21,371
He needs to see the fire
of terror in the woman's eyes
651
00:30:21,441 --> 00:30:25,431
as he's on the verge
of snuffing out her soul
652
00:30:25,501 --> 00:30:27,491
for him to be aroused.
653
00:30:27,567 --> 00:30:30,397
-As Matt Murphy
prepared to try Alcala
654
00:30:30,474 --> 00:30:33,354
with the four newly
discovered murders,
655
00:30:33,427 --> 00:30:36,867
he was still intent on getting
a third guilty verdict
656
00:30:36,947 --> 00:30:40,827
for Robin Samsoe and her family.
657
00:30:40,901 --> 00:30:43,591
-There's no free murders.
658
00:30:43,661 --> 00:30:45,031
If somebody kills 10 people,
659
00:30:45,101 --> 00:30:46,761
and there's an 11th out there
that's really hard,
660
00:30:46,834 --> 00:30:48,644
we don't give them a freebie
and just go with the 10.
661
00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:51,324
We hold them accountable for
every single person they kill.
662
00:30:51,394 --> 00:30:54,864
And it's more work
for the prosecution.
663
00:30:54,934 --> 00:30:58,574
It's more work for the police.
But to a man and woman,
664
00:30:58,647 --> 00:31:02,087
the police who have worked
on this, they understand.
665
00:31:01,761 --> 00:31:03,541
People are happy to do the work
666
00:31:03,614 --> 00:31:06,844
if we can bring justice
to the families, so it's --
667
00:31:06,914 --> 00:31:09,204
Every one that we can get him
on, we're going to try him on.
668
00:31:09,274 --> 00:31:11,654
-Rodney Alcala's latest trial
669
00:31:11,721 --> 00:31:15,651
was set
for January the 11th, 2010,
670
00:31:15,721 --> 00:31:19,871
but this time, he was ready
to employ a new tactic.
671
00:31:19,941 --> 00:31:24,471
The 66-year-old believed there
was only one person in the world
672
00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:27,227
who could do a decent job
of defending him,
673
00:31:27,301 --> 00:31:30,441
and that man was himself.
674
00:31:30,514 --> 00:31:33,294
He was accused of the murder
of four women
675
00:31:33,361 --> 00:31:38,311
and one child,
12-year-old Robin Samsoe.
676
00:31:38,381 --> 00:31:41,681
-Alcala decides
to represent himself at trial.
677
00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:43,504
And there's an old saying
that says,
678
00:31:43,574 --> 00:31:45,384
"Anyone who chooses
to represent themselves
679
00:31:45,321 --> 00:31:48,601
has a fool for a client," and
that's very true in this case.
680
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:50,244
And he's not just a fool.
681
00:31:50,314 --> 00:31:53,254
He's an absolute
narcissist, as well.
682
00:31:53,321 --> 00:31:55,941
-He wanted to be up there
in the spotlight,
683
00:31:56,014 --> 00:31:57,874
and he wanted to tell
his side of the story,
684
00:31:57,947 --> 00:32:01,147
because he thought he was
the smartest guy in the room.
685
00:32:01,221 --> 00:32:05,231
-Alcala was up against
the formidable prosecution team
686
00:32:05,301 --> 00:32:07,491
of Gina Satriano
687
00:32:07,568 --> 00:32:10,998
and Orange County Deputy D.A.
Matt Murphy.
688
00:32:11,074 --> 00:32:15,164
-Matt Murphy is
a prosecutorial genius.
689
00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:19,231
He's got the charm and the wit
690
00:32:19,301 --> 00:32:21,631
to draw a jury in
691
00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:24,427
and control them
in the palm of his hand.
692
00:32:24,201 --> 00:32:28,131
He knows what to say and when to
say it for its maximum effect.
693
00:32:28,201 --> 00:32:30,651
I couldn't have asked for a
better prosecutor in this case.
694
00:32:30,721 --> 00:32:33,311
-It's kind of
this very surreal process,
695
00:32:33,387 --> 00:32:35,677
but you actually kind of
get to know the guy.
696
00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:37,434
You know,
it's like you would a lawyer.
697
00:32:37,501 --> 00:32:39,501
You spend hours together. You're
sitting next to each other.
698
00:32:39,574 --> 00:32:41,914
You're working out
complex evidentiary things
699
00:32:41,981 --> 00:32:43,471
and figuring out
what the questionnaires
700
00:32:43,541 --> 00:32:44,581
are going to contain.
701
00:32:44,654 --> 00:32:46,714
And just like
you get to know a lawyer,
702
00:32:46,787 --> 00:32:48,137
here was Rodney Alcala.
703
00:32:48,214 --> 00:32:50,674
It was very dark
704
00:32:50,747 --> 00:32:53,367
but also fascinating.
705
00:32:53,448 --> 00:32:55,538
Maybe I'm twisted,
but it was interesting.
706
00:32:55,614 --> 00:32:57,724
-Murphy would have
to treat Alcala
707
00:32:57,794 --> 00:32:59,714
with the same respect he did
708
00:32:59,281 --> 00:33:03,191
with any other defense attorney
he may have come up against.
709
00:33:03,267 --> 00:33:04,997
-As a professional,
you've got to deal with him,
710
00:33:05,074 --> 00:33:07,034
and you've got to
engage him in conversation,
711
00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:08,127
and you got to talk to him.
712
00:33:08,201 --> 00:33:11,161
And what I saw
when I dealt with him
713
00:33:11,234 --> 00:33:14,074
is I could see how every one
of these young women
714
00:33:14,147 --> 00:33:16,467
would get in the car,
because he was so intelligent.
715
00:33:16,541 --> 00:33:17,671
He was a handsome guy --
716
00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:21,017
not by the time we got to him,
but back then.
717
00:33:21,094 --> 00:33:24,934
You know, all that, you could
see how this very intelligent,
718
00:33:25,001 --> 00:33:27,631
very charming, very handsome guy
719
00:33:27,708 --> 00:33:31,148
could lure these women
into positions of vulnerability
720
00:33:31,221 --> 00:33:33,091
where he would rape them
and murder them.
721
00:33:33,161 --> 00:33:35,501
-During one of
their conversations,
722
00:33:35,574 --> 00:33:38,054
Alcala shared his experience
723
00:33:38,127 --> 00:33:40,937
of living on death row.
724
00:33:41,014 --> 00:33:42,964
-He goes, "We have six yards."
He goes --
725
00:33:42,601 --> 00:33:45,251
They have a softy yard,
basically.
726
00:33:45,321 --> 00:33:46,991
They call it the wienie yard.
727
00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,148
And he goes, "Matt --"
He called me Matt --
728
00:33:48,221 --> 00:33:50,471
"Matt, I'm not violent.
729
00:33:50,547 --> 00:33:52,187
I'm not a violent guy.
I'm in the wienie yard.
730
00:33:52,267 --> 00:33:55,337
I'm not with those guys.
I'm not violent."
731
00:33:55,281 --> 00:33:58,431
This is a guy who raped
and bashed the skull in
732
00:33:58,501 --> 00:34:00,311
of Georgia Wixted.
733
00:34:00,381 --> 00:34:03,051
This is a guy who smashed
the face in of Jill Barcomb
734
00:34:03,121 --> 00:34:04,421
with a rock,
and he's looking at me like,
735
00:34:04,494 --> 00:34:07,434
"Hey, buddy, I'm not violent.
736
00:34:07,501 --> 00:34:09,291
I'm not on that yard
with those guys.
737
00:34:08,961 --> 00:34:12,031
I'm with the respectable guys
on death row."
738
00:34:12,107 --> 00:34:13,977
You know, that was just --
739
00:34:14,054 --> 00:34:16,534
That was a moment
I'll also never forget.
740
00:34:16,601 --> 00:34:19,321
-Alcala didn't seem
to offer any defense
741
00:34:19,394 --> 00:34:22,434
to the four new murder charges
against him,
742
00:34:22,507 --> 00:34:27,367
but he defiantly fought
the Robin Samsoe one.
743
00:34:27,441 --> 00:34:33,031
By 2010, Huntington Beach
detective Steve Mack had retired
744
00:34:32,601 --> 00:34:35,181
after spending
most of his career
745
00:34:34,921 --> 00:34:38,071
fighting for justice
for Robin's family.
746
00:34:38,147 --> 00:34:42,867
-I sat with the family
through a lot of the trial,
747
00:34:42,941 --> 00:34:45,091
and I would speak to them
before we went into court
748
00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:47,107
and afterwards.
749
00:34:47,181 --> 00:34:49,361
And every now and then,
I would talk to Matt Murphy
750
00:34:49,201 --> 00:34:51,821
regarding the tactics
of the trial.
751
00:34:51,894 --> 00:34:54,554
But since I wasn't
actually participating,
752
00:34:54,627 --> 00:34:57,467
I tried to stay out
of that aspect of it.
753
00:34:57,547 --> 00:35:02,207
-During the five-week trial at
Orange County Superior Court,
754
00:35:02,287 --> 00:35:05,647
Alcala continued
to mentally torture
755
00:35:05,721 --> 00:35:07,431
Robin Samsoe's mother.
756
00:35:07,501 --> 00:35:10,561
-This woman has been --
Her credibility is questioned.
757
00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:13,874
And, you know, here,
the third time around,
758
00:35:13,941 --> 00:35:16,091
Rodney Alcala is
representing himself,
759
00:35:16,161 --> 00:35:20,661
so she's getting cross-examined
by the murderer of her daughter,
760
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,071
who's calling her a liar.
761
00:35:22,147 --> 00:35:23,277
I mean, imagine that.
762
00:35:23,354 --> 00:35:26,234
-To watch him cross-examine
Robin's mother
763
00:35:26,308 --> 00:35:27,918
and get within feet of her
764
00:35:27,994 --> 00:35:31,714
and ask her personal questions
really made me angry
765
00:35:31,521 --> 00:35:33,891
that he should be allowed
to be that close.
766
00:35:33,967 --> 00:35:35,277
I think the court
should've ruled
767
00:35:35,354 --> 00:35:38,454
that if you want to talk to her,
you want to cross-examine her,
768
00:35:38,527 --> 00:35:39,987
that you need to remain
in your chair
769
00:35:40,061 --> 00:35:42,201
and sitting
at the counsel table.
770
00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:45,994
It got real frustrating for me
that he was allowed to do that.
771
00:35:46,067 --> 00:35:47,977
Again, in my mind,
772
00:35:48,054 --> 00:35:52,234
he's reliving that incident
773
00:35:52,301 --> 00:35:55,351
through his questions
of Robin's mother.
774
00:35:55,427 --> 00:35:58,067
-This time around,
the prosecution were armed
775
00:35:58,147 --> 00:36:01,497
with new evidence in relation
to Robin's murder --
776
00:36:01,574 --> 00:36:05,264
a pair of earrings found
in Alcala's storage locker
777
00:36:05,334 --> 00:36:07,944
back in 1979.
778
00:36:08,014 --> 00:36:11,054
The killer had always claimed
that they belonged to him,
779
00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:14,877
but DNA testing proved that
to be a lie.
780
00:36:14,954 --> 00:36:18,694
They in fact belonged
to another of his victims.
781
00:36:18,768 --> 00:36:22,638
-We got 0.06 nanograms of DNA
belonging to Charlotte Lamb,
782
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:25,864
so when we're in that courtroom,
it's almost like Charlotte Lamb
783
00:36:25,934 --> 00:36:28,704
is whispering
from the grave to our jury,
784
00:36:28,774 --> 00:36:31,144
"Robin's mother was right.
785
00:36:31,214 --> 00:36:32,894
Rodney Alcala keeps earrings."
786
00:36:32,967 --> 00:36:35,847
It was the most powerful
evidence you could ever hope.
787
00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:38,157
And just this tiny,
little piece of DNA
788
00:36:38,234 --> 00:36:40,924
that sat there for decades
789
00:36:40,994 --> 00:36:44,494
and, you know, technology
caught up to it, thank God.
790
00:36:44,568 --> 00:36:49,218
And that was sort of
an emotional part of the trial,
791
00:36:49,161 --> 00:36:51,231
when the jury got to realize
that Robin's mother,
792
00:36:51,307 --> 00:36:52,757
after all of these years
793
00:36:52,834 --> 00:36:55,224
and after all of these
cross-examinations,
794
00:36:55,294 --> 00:36:57,604
was conclusively
proven to be right
795
00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,754
by the DNA of Charlotte Lamb
on another earring
796
00:36:59,821 --> 00:37:01,531
found in the exact same pouch
797
00:37:01,401 --> 00:37:04,461
as the ones that Robin
was wearing that day.
798
00:37:04,534 --> 00:37:07,294
-Linking the murder
of Charlotte Lamb
799
00:37:07,361 --> 00:37:09,531
to the murder of Robin Samsoe
800
00:37:09,601 --> 00:37:14,271
looked to be the final nail
in the coffin for Rodney Alcala.
801
00:37:14,347 --> 00:37:17,527
On February the 25th, 2010,
802
00:37:17,601 --> 00:37:19,531
the jury had reached a verdict
803
00:37:19,601 --> 00:37:24,011
on all five murder charges.
804
00:37:23,681 --> 00:37:26,531
-Three of those cases,
we had very strong DNA,
805
00:37:26,607 --> 00:37:29,447
but on Jill Parenteau,
it was a tougher case.
806
00:37:29,521 --> 00:37:31,601
But we had a -- Fortunately,
we had a great jury,
807
00:37:31,674 --> 00:37:34,114
and we had Francisco Briseno
as our judge.
808
00:37:34,188 --> 00:37:35,378
So they did the right thing,
809
00:37:35,454 --> 00:37:37,124
and they convicted
on all of the murders --
810
00:37:37,194 --> 00:37:39,164
on Robin, on Jill Barcomb,
811
00:37:39,234 --> 00:37:43,124
on Georgia Wixted, all of them.
812
00:37:43,194 --> 00:37:46,924
So he was held accountable for
every one of those young women.
813
00:37:46,994 --> 00:37:49,804
-On March the 30th, 2010,
814
00:37:49,874 --> 00:37:54,964
Rodney Alcala was sentenced
to death for a third time.
815
00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:57,854
The tactic of representing
himself in court
816
00:37:57,928 --> 00:37:59,998
had backfired spectacularly.
817
00:38:00,074 --> 00:38:01,784
-This guy just thought,
you know,
818
00:38:01,854 --> 00:38:03,154
nothing could touch him,
819
00:38:03,227 --> 00:38:05,377
and he was the smartest
guy in the room,
820
00:38:05,454 --> 00:38:08,614
and as long as he could talk,
he would get away with it.
821
00:38:08,681 --> 00:38:10,101
Ultimately, he was proven wrong.
822
00:38:10,174 --> 00:38:11,304
-When the verdict came back,
823
00:38:11,374 --> 00:38:13,194
it came back
as I expected that it was,
824
00:38:13,261 --> 00:38:14,951
but it's still
a feeling of elation
825
00:38:15,021 --> 00:38:17,451
that this guy lost
826
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:20,711
his third attempt at freedom.
827
00:38:20,781 --> 00:38:23,641
I'm just waiting for the day
to get the phone call
828
00:38:23,714 --> 00:38:25,524
that Mother Nature
and Father Time
829
00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:27,454
did what the courts
would never do
830
00:38:27,527 --> 00:38:29,747
and that he's no longer
stealing oxygen
831
00:38:29,821 --> 00:38:31,821
from decent people.
832
00:38:31,894 --> 00:38:34,584
-The following year, 2011,
833
00:38:34,654 --> 00:38:38,694
Alcala was charged
with two murders in New York --
834
00:38:38,768 --> 00:38:42,588
23-year-olds Cornelia Crilley
in 1971
835
00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:47,587
and Ellen Hover in 1977.
836
00:38:47,161 --> 00:38:51,331
-Alcala is one of those killers
837
00:38:50,841 --> 00:38:55,041
who believed he was cleverer.
838
00:38:55,114 --> 00:38:57,544
He could hide in plain sight.
839
00:38:57,614 --> 00:38:58,774
"I'm John Berger in New York."
840
00:38:58,847 --> 00:39:01,517
"I'm an ordinary,
humble man in Los Angeles.
841
00:39:01,594 --> 00:39:03,394
I couldn't possibly
be dangerous."
842
00:39:02,961 --> 00:39:06,311
He is, in some respects,
843
00:39:06,381 --> 00:39:09,151
even more dangerous,
844
00:39:09,221 --> 00:39:12,401
like a perfectly
camouflaged snake
845
00:39:12,474 --> 00:39:13,824
that you tread on by accident
846
00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:17,824
because you don't
realize it's there.
847
00:39:17,894 --> 00:39:21,594
-To avoid another trial,
Alcala pled guilty
848
00:39:21,161 --> 00:39:23,671
to both New York murders,
849
00:39:23,747 --> 00:39:27,167
taking his total number
of victims to seven.
850
00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:30,191
In 2010, over 100 pictures
851
00:39:30,261 --> 00:39:33,861
found in Alcala's
Seattle storage unit
852
00:39:33,601 --> 00:39:37,271
were released into
the public domain by detectives
853
00:39:37,347 --> 00:39:41,167
in a bid to identify
potential victims.
854
00:39:40,681 --> 00:39:44,031
As a result,
Alcala has since been charged
855
00:39:44,107 --> 00:39:46,347
with killing a 28-year-old woman
856
00:39:46,421 --> 00:39:49,831
in Wyoming in 1977.
857
00:39:49,901 --> 00:39:52,651
Many of the photographs
found in the locker
858
00:39:52,721 --> 00:39:55,071
were too graphic to be released,
859
00:39:55,147 --> 00:40:00,147
meaning many of the women
remain unaccounted for.
860
00:40:00,227 --> 00:40:04,577
-Alcala may be the most
dangerous of all the killers
861
00:40:04,654 --> 00:40:07,604
that have ever been caught
862
00:40:07,674 --> 00:40:09,074
because while
he was only charged
863
00:40:09,141 --> 00:40:11,451
with a relatively small
number of murders,
864
00:40:11,527 --> 00:40:13,747
the number of pictures he had
865
00:40:13,821 --> 00:40:16,731
means that he may have killed
in excess of 100 people.
866
00:40:19,054 --> 00:40:21,724
-Given the volume
of the photographs,
867
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,664
you know, we always knew
that we had other victims.
868
00:40:24,734 --> 00:40:27,534
We just --
We didn't know who they were.
869
00:40:27,601 --> 00:40:31,171
-Alcala was forced to pay
for some of his crimes.
870
00:40:31,247 --> 00:40:33,517
But for the families
of the deceased,
871
00:40:33,594 --> 00:40:36,264
the pain of losing a loved one
872
00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:39,684
is a punishment
that lasts forever.
873
00:40:39,754 --> 00:40:42,754
-I don't think Robin's family
is ever going to be at peace.
874
00:40:42,521 --> 00:40:45,671
They had their 12-year-old
sister kidnapped
875
00:40:45,741 --> 00:40:47,371
and brutally murdered
876
00:40:47,447 --> 00:40:49,977
in the mountains
of Los Angeles County.
877
00:40:50,054 --> 00:40:51,254
They live with that every day
878
00:40:51,161 --> 00:40:52,791
when they look
at her photographs
879
00:40:52,868 --> 00:40:53,948
that they have on their shelves.
880
00:40:54,027 --> 00:40:58,257
It tormented them then, and
when people bring it up today,
881
00:40:58,334 --> 00:40:59,714
it's further torment for them,
882
00:40:59,781 --> 00:41:02,591
so I don't think
they'll ever be at peace.
883
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,447
They'll certainly be elated
the day he dies,
884
00:41:05,521 --> 00:41:07,031
but at peace?
885
00:41:07,107 --> 00:41:09,087
I think they're just
dealing with it.
886
00:41:11,447 --> 00:41:14,077
-74-year-old Rodney Alcala
887
00:41:14,154 --> 00:41:16,124
remains on death row
888
00:41:16,194 --> 00:41:19,754
in Corcoran State Prison
in California.
889
00:41:19,821 --> 00:41:23,451
He has never admitted
to any other murders.
890
00:41:23,527 --> 00:41:26,327
-Well, if I was
to describe Alcala
891
00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,991
with three words,
it would be "me, me, me."
892
00:41:29,067 --> 00:41:31,137
This man is
an absolute narcissist.
893
00:41:31,214 --> 00:41:32,924
And he doesn't care
about the rights
894
00:41:32,994 --> 00:41:35,234
or the feelings of other people,
895
00:41:35,307 --> 00:41:37,597
and all of his behavior
revolves around him.
896
00:41:37,674 --> 00:41:39,384
So he's somebody
897
00:41:39,454 --> 00:41:42,544
who was only going to ever
pursue his own desires,
898
00:41:42,614 --> 00:41:43,894
and unfortunately,
899
00:41:43,968 --> 00:41:46,468
this ended up in a lot of people
losing their lives.
900
00:41:46,541 --> 00:41:48,391
-For these psychopaths,
their main thing --
901
00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:50,817
They want to control things.
They want to be in control.
902
00:41:50,894 --> 00:41:54,444
They want the attention on them.
That's kind of what drives them.
903
00:41:54,514 --> 00:41:56,264
He went up.
He made his whole pitch,
904
00:41:56,334 --> 00:41:58,394
and they soundly rejected him.
905
00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:00,027
They rejected his defense.
906
00:42:00,107 --> 00:42:02,547
They rejected everything
that he stood for
907
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:07,041
and found that he deserved
to die for what he did.
908
00:42:07,114 --> 00:42:10,894
-My feelings towards
The Monster. It's rage.
909
00:42:10,967 --> 00:42:14,777
It's anger, and I really hope
that he's suffering.
910
00:42:14,854 --> 00:42:17,304
He's in poor physical health.
911
00:42:17,374 --> 00:42:19,864
He's being fed
through a feeding tube.
912
00:42:19,934 --> 00:42:22,854
It's reported
that he has Alzheimer's.
913
00:42:22,921 --> 00:42:25,311
I hope all of this is true
and that, one day,
914
00:42:25,381 --> 00:42:28,711
I get that phone call
that he is gone,
915
00:42:28,781 --> 00:42:32,631
and nobody will ever have
to hear his name again.
916
00:42:32,707 --> 00:42:35,957
-Rodney Alcala killed
at least six women
917
00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,834
and a 12-year-old girl.
918
00:42:37,907 --> 00:42:42,757
He was a terrifying predator
hiding behind a charming persona
919
00:42:42,834 --> 00:42:44,364
and attacked his victims
920
00:42:44,434 --> 00:42:48,034
for nothing other
than his own selfish pleasures.
921
00:42:48,101 --> 00:42:52,271
To this day, we still
do not know why he did it.
922
00:42:52,347 --> 00:42:56,247
When he finally dies,
Alcala will be remembered
923
00:42:56,321 --> 00:42:59,251
as one of the most
dangerous men in America
924
00:42:59,161 --> 00:43:02,531
and one of the world's
most evil killers.
73002
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