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- This is where it started.
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- [Janet] My father definitely had a plan,
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he wanted a better life for us.
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- [Presenter] Michael, Marlon, Jermaine,
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Tito and Jackie, the
mighty-mighty Jackson 5.
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(audience cheers)
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- [Producer] Did you
ever have any visions
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that the kids would be this successful?
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- I had a vision it would happen.
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- [Randy] Ladies and gentlemen,
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I'd like to introduce Janet Jackson.
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- [Janet] We had to go to work.
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- [Producer] Do they resent it?
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- Yes.
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- [Janet] My father was
in charge of my life,
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my career and he was my manager.
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- [Producer] You're
not going to do this
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for the rest of your life?
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- I want to go to college.
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He said you're gonna sing.
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You really didn't say no to my father.
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- Keep them under control,
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and there's no way you can go wrong.
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- Oh, no.
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- Oh my God Penny! What?
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- I have to start being independent.
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There was no other way I would be able
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to kind of get my own
life unless I got married.
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- I like a lady that has a soft heart
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and is willing to understand
anything no matter what.
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It wasn't easy for us to see each other,
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being that she was very well
protected by her mom and dad.
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You know, who is this
guy? What is he into?
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- I eventually learned
that he was into drugs.
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I was just incredibly innocent.
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- The stunning report
about one of America's
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hottest pop stars.
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She gave birth to a daughter
and kept it all secret.
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- [Reporter] The father,
her first husband,
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singer James DeBarge.
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- [Reporter] She was supposedly
placed in foster care.
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- [Reporter] Does Janet
Jackson have a secret daughter?
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(emotional, anxious music)
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- For more than three decades,
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rumours have swirled that
Janet had a secret daughter
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with first husband James DeBarge.
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They eloped in 1984, Janet was just 18.
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Their marriage lasted one
year before being annulled.
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Janet has never said a
word about whether or not
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she had a secret baby, but
according to published reports,
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the girl's name is René,
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and she was raised by
Janet's older sister, Rebbie.
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- [Producer] Rumours about
you having James' baby,
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are they true?
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(Janet exhales)
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- [Woman] Rolling.
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- [Man] Action!
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- I don't even believe
this, I was so terrible.
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I was just terrible.
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- Oh, please Cleo, you wasn't terrible.
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- Leroy, I wasn't even good.
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Back in the day, they were saying
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that I had a child and I kept it secret.
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- Oh people, we got trouble.
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These were rumours that were
just flying around, honey,
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like hash in a diner. It was... (laughs)
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But what was sticking on the
wall was, where was the baby?
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Nobody saw a baby,
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I mean, she was there with
us all day, every day.
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Where was the baby?
What, where, who, where?
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- They were saying that I
was raising her daughter.
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I couldn't believe it.
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- First, they were saying my
niece Brandy was my daughter
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and that I gave it to Jackie to raise.
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And then, because Randy's
daughter looks so much like me,
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then they started saying it was Stevana.
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- I don't understand why you're
being so hard on yourself.
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- When I was doing "Fame",
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a lot of the kids thought I was pregnant
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because I had gained weight,
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and I had started taking
birth control pills
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and back then, you could
pick up weight taking them
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and that's what happened to me.
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So, that rumour started going around.
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(cameras clicking)
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I don't like when journalists,
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when they try to trip you up like that.
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I don't like the weight of
that negativity around me.
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I could never keep a
child away from James.
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How could I keep a
child from their father?
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I could never do that, that's not right.
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- I don't know where that
ridiculous idea came from.
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It's funny, the rumours,
that's a whole 'nother story.
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I mean there's not a time
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when I haven't stepped in the food market
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and see somebody in my
family on the magazine.
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(chuckles) Oh gosh.
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(pensive music)
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- [Janet] They always
tried to make my brother
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seem like some sort of a freak.
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- Yeah, I remember seeing
that change happen.
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I remember, for me, the
moment that it happened,
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'cause we were very
close, we were very close.
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We did everything together, everything.
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It was "Thriller". That's
when it all started changing.
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(tense music)
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(indistinct chatter)
(cameras clicking)
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- [Reporter] Michael
Jackson's album "Thriller"
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has sold more than 70
million copies worldwide.
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- [Reporter] "Thriller" earned
him more than $25 million.
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- [Reporter] A record
breaking six hit singles.
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- [Reporter] The number one solo performer
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in the history of the music business.
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- Whenever Mike would do an album,
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he'd throw me in his car,
and we'd listen to it
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from front to back to see what I thought.
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I remember really loving
the "Thriller" album,
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but for the first time in my life,
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that's when I felt it was
different between the two of us.
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That a shift was happening.
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He would always come in
my room and we'd talk,
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and this particular time
he came in my bedroom.
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Neither one of us said
a word to each other,
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and then he got up and left.
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(cameras clicking)
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- [Reporter] The story for
the night for the press,
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was the frustration backstage
when Michael Jackson declined
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to talk to any reporters.
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- You can see how Michael feels.
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- That's the time where Mike and I
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started kind of going our separate ways.
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We weren't as close.
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And it may have been
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just because he was so massive, so huge.
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Huge.
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- [Producer] When was the last time
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you talked to Michael?
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- The last time I saw him,
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and we were able to talk
together, was over a year ago.
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- Over a year ago, seems like a long time.
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- Michael is very busy.
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- [Reporter] More than
5,000 Michael Jackson fans
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stood on Hollywood Boulevard for hours,
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waiting for a glimpse of
the mysterious rockstar.
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In the end, Michael Jackson
was here for about a minute.
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(crowd cheering)
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- When you have the last name Jackson,
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there's a certain microscope
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that they want to use with that.
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- [Producer] No matter what you do,
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you've got the Jackson name,
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you've got the Jackson connections.
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What are the disadvantages?
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- Well, I think the disadvantage for me
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is choosing a friend.
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'Cause you don't know
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if they're really being your friend for...
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Is it who you are or what you are?
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Do they just want to be your friend
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because you're Janet Jackson,
Michael Jackson's sister?
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Or do they want to be your friend
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because they really like
you deep down inside?
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Your personality?
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And I think that's been
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one of the hardest things for me to do.
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I don't have very many friends.
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(somber music)
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I wanted my own identity,
but at that time,
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my father was in charge of my life,
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my career and he was my manager.
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There were things that I wanted to do,
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and just a direction I
wanted to go in that I...
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That I...Like I said, it's hard
to say no to my father,
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so in order to do the things
the way I wanted to do it,
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I guess he would have to
be out of the picture.
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(somber music)
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I knew that I had to
take control of my life.
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I wanted my own identity.
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(dramatic music)
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I wanted to go on my own.
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Michael has always told me three things,
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that's to always practice,
to never give up,
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and to have self-confidence
if I want to make it.
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I told myself okay I was going
to take another go at this,
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but if I take another go
at this, do another album,
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I'm gonna have to do it the way I see fit.
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The first thing I had to do, I felt,
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was to let my father go.
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(uneasy music)
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- [Interviewer] Surely
it must have hurt you
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to have your daughter get out
of your management contract?
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- Well, there was a feeling
that came over me. It did hurt.
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But when they get a certain
age, there's no need to worry
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about nothing 'cause you've done your job,
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and they make their own decisions,
whether it's bad or good
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and when they need help
in their father,
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I will come right back.
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- I had to make it happen
at that point, you know?
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Like I hadn't made the wrong decision,
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the wrong choice.
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- [Crew Member] Jessica Davenport,
interview take one. Mark.
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- I used to work for Mr. Jackson,
at his production office,
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when he managed the
brothers, as well as Janet.
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I went to the office,
the doors were locked,
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and we were like oh, okay.
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Mr. Jackson said he was
no longer the manager,
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no longer in business.
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I remember Janet being a
little frustrated at that time.
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Her heart was somewhere else.
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(gentle music)
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Janet never really got a
chance to meet the real Joseph.
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You know he was funny, he was hilarious,
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but he knew that he had to be strict
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for the goal that he had for the family.
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It's sad. He gave up his fatherhood.
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- We were together 10 years ago.
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- Yeah. 10 years.
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You're looking good, you look real good.
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- Thank you. Good to see you.
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- I called the house, and he
said the company is no longer.
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And he said, you know, "I want you
to go on and be with Janet.
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I give you permission to
go on and work with her
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and take care of her."
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So, I started working for
Janet when she was about 17.
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- Janet is one of the
few people in the family
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that would stand up to my pop, you know.
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Oh yeah, she's tough.
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She ain't gonna let anybody
say anything to her.
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My father admired her for
being that way I think as well,
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you know, because she's always
been a strong individual.
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(rotary phone rattling)
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- [Janet] I got on the
phone with Jimmy and Terry
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and that's when it all began.
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- [Crew Member] Jimmy
Jam, interview take one.
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(clapboard claps)
- Aaah.
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- [Crew Member] Terry
Lewis' interview take one.
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(crowd cheering)
(upbeat music)
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- So, Terry and I were
in a band called The Time
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and we became the opening
act for Prince on tour.
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My first awaRenéss of Janet Jackson was,
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her and her mom came to
our show in Long Beach.
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At the end of our show,
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instead of coming out and taking a bow,
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we would come out and basically go "Huh!"
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and then grab our dicks, right?
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Sorry, this is stupid.
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♪ What time is it ♪
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We were like, "Wow, should we do it?"
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'Cause that's Janet and her
mom are sitting front row.
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And of course, we were ignorant,
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so we did it like extra hard that night.
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(crowd cheering)
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- [Prince] See you later. Good night.
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- Afterwards, we met Janet backstage.
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That was the way we kind
of all got together.
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- We had her come to
Minneapolis and we had an idea,
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that we could produce Janet in a way
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that she hadn't been produced before.
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Janet had way more attitude
and feistiness in her
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than what we had previously
heard from the other albums.
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- It was apparent that nobody
had really asked her opinion
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about what she wanted to sing about.
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We wanted her to make her record,
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and I think it was like
a revelation to her.
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(dramatic music)
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The "Control" album was really
about what was happening
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in her life at that moment
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and taking control of her life.
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So, she did.
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She wanted the best lighting designers,
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wardrobe stylists, choreographers.
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And I remember she called
Paula Abdul herself,
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and the rest is history.
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- [Commentator] It's two
minutes 57 seconds left
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of the opening period.
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- I first got involved
with the Jackson family
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when I was the choreographer
of the Laker Girls.
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(crowd cheering)
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I was noticed by the Jackson brothers
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and the brothers told me
Janet wanted to meet with me.
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I felt like I'm gonna
be able to nurture her
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and just take care of her.
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I just loved her off the bat.
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I'll never forget coming over
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to the family house on Havenhurst.
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There would be Michael
bringing in Bubbles.
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And I was in love with Bubbles,
Janet wasn't. (chuckles)
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And her bedroom was beautiful,
this white canopy bed
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and white shag carpeting.
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And she'd go, "He stinks, get him out."
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And I'd be laughing and
my laugh is alarming
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it's like (braying), like
that, I can't help it.
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And she's going, "Oh God, oh no."
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And it always resulted
in me peeing in my pants.
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And I'm not gonna lie, it happened.
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Like I would ruin her white
shag carpeting in her bedroom,
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from laughing so hard, okay?
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Hold one, two, three, four,
brush five, brush six,
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pull seven, hip eight, heels one.
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When I started working with Janet,
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she was extremely shy and soft spoken.
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Seven and eight, pull it in.
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Cool, let's take it from the top.
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She shed some light
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into what was going on with
her father, with James.
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- Sorry, Paula.
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- It wasn't about just
teaching choreography.
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It was up to me to kind of
bring her out of her shell.
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Yeah what you want to do
though is pull it over
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so you're leaning over.
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(Janet laughs)
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It was so important for me
because it was important for her.
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Sorry.
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(emotional music)
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- She was out of her comfort zone
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and it got her excited about it.
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So, the Janet that Terry and I myself got,
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was a different Janet.
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- [Paula] And five and six,
pull seven, and eight, and one, and two-
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- Sorry.
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- It was important that
this album showed her
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as a young woman who is taking the reins.
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- Four, five, six, nice and
clean. And one and over two.
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- It was me coming into my adulthood
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and knowing that out of
all the kids in the world,
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I know I'm not alone,
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so why not put this down with your music.
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- Circle in, left foot, one hit two, up...
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And you saw the confidence
build and build and build.
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Oh, you went on!
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- Those of us who have
been Jackson 5 fans,
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we've witnessed Janet growing up.
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- [Man] Right here we go,
settle in, lock it up.
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Very quiet please. Roll
camera and sound please.
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- [Presenter] It is so refreshing
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to see the new video, "Control".
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Let's check out Miss Janet Jackson.
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- [Crew Member] Action!
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- This is a story about control.
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My control.
(crowd cheering)
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Control of what I say,
and control of what I do.
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And this time I'm gonna do it my way.
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(crowd cheering)
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- [Paula] The most
important thing was for her
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to take that stage and own it.
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(energetic music)
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♪ When I was 17 I did
what people told me ♪
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♪ Did what my father said
and let my mother mould me ♪
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♪ But that was long ago ♪
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♪ I'm in control, never gonna stop ♪
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♪ Control to get what I want ♪
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♪ Control, I like to have a lot ♪
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♪ Control, now I'm all grown up ♪
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(crowd cheering)
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- [Anchor] The youngest
member of the Jackson family
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has certainly grown up.
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- [Reporter] A pop star
with the world at her feet.
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- [Reporter] She had done it
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without the help of her famous brothers.
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♪ Got my own mind ♪
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♪ I want to make my own decisions ♪
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♪ When it has to do
with my life, my life ♪
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♪ I wanna be the one in control ♪
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- It really introduced Janet Jackson
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as a force to be reckoned with.
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(audience cheers)
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- Nominated for Album of The Year,
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ladies and gentlemen, Janet Jackson.
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(audience cheers)
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- Give me a beat.
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(energetic music)
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- "Control" was not only a saving grace,
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but for her it was a rights
passage into adulthood.
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And that was the master stroke.
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Janet Jackson having it
her way, on her terms.
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♪ Used to be a time when
you would pamper me ♪
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♪ Used to brag about it all the time ♪
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- I have such a connection with "Control",
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because it was prior to
me being a known artist.
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I was in that zone of like,
one day I'm going to do this.
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♪ What have you done for me lately ♪
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- "What have you done for me lately?"
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my girlfriends used to
say that to me. (laughs).
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I used to get mad at my little sister,
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giving these young
ladies such, this attitude.
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♪ To the bridge ♪
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♪ I never ask for more than I deserve ♪
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- "Control" may be all the
way back from the '80s,
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but like, when I was 16 years old,
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and trying to figure out this industry
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and figure out my life, as a woman,
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and wanting to take
control, it still resonates.
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- You ain't done nothing for
me, I'm out of here. I'm gone.
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(audience cheers)
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- Last night in Los Angeles,
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another member of the
singing Jackson family,
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Janet Jackson officially
came into her own.
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Janet Jackson's "Control" album
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passed the 2 million
mark in sales recently.
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Her record company celebrated
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by throwing her a double platinum party.
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00:20:14,521 --> 00:20:15,781
(energetic music)
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- [Producer] This is an exciting night
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for your little sister, how do you feel?
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00:20:19,161 --> 00:20:20,941
- I'm very proud of her,
the whole family is.
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00:20:21,041 --> 00:20:23,341
- She's come a long way,
she's worked very hard
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00:20:23,441 --> 00:20:25,380
and I think she really deserves it.
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00:20:25,481 --> 00:20:26,421
- Thank you very much.
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00:20:28,921 --> 00:20:30,821
- [Reporter] Did you
expect anything like this?
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- I knew the album would be successful,
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but I didn't think it would
have this much success.
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- And the winner is Janet Jackson!
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- Janet Jackson!
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- Janet Jackson!
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(audience cheers)
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- This means so much to me, thank you.
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- She was on her own,
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and she was taking control of her life.
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(upbeat music)
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♪ Oh you nasty boys ♪
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00:20:57,761 --> 00:20:59,800
- It was a time when Janet's career
422
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,300
and her personal life
were gelling together.
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00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720
And she was comfortable with that.
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00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,060
René was one of the dancers.
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00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,060
They were like working buddies.
426
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,980
But then I found out they
were actually, you know,
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had a relationship.
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00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,060
- He was actually from the film industry,
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that's what his family did for a living.
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- [René] Here Jan, watch.
Film, film a second.
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♪ Don't you ever leave ♪
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See René, you should be over here!
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00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,260
I needed to just be free
of being with somebody
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that did drugs and all of that.
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00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,100
(dog barks)
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I needed it. I needed a lift.
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00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,360
- [René] Watch out, Jan,
it's gonna close in on you!
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- René was funny, we just
always had fun together,
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and he was very, very charming.
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(Janet laughing)
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(man laughing)
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- [Producer] Tell us a little bit
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about how you and Janet met.
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00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:07,039
- Ah, it's interesting.
445
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,539
I was doing a film, a real silly film.
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00:22:11,639 --> 00:22:13,719
Okay wait, I'm gonna try
something nice, yeah?
447
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:15,379
- [Janet] What are you doing?
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- [René] Slow reveal. Slow reveal.
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And a friend called one night and said,
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"Do you want to come over
and meet Janet Jackson?"
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And we were like, "Yeah
sure, we'd love to."
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00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:28,259
Janet?
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So, we went over to the
house on Havenhurst,
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where Michael was living,
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00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:35,039
and LaToya and the parents
at the time, and we met her.
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Who's that?
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- Actress.
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Come here.
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00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,259
- She was super shy, but
once you get to know her,
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she does open up to, not to a
lot of people, but she does.
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(waves murmuring)
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Oh my God! Who is that?
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We became really good friends,
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and it just continued from there.
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(upbeat music)
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00:23:06,958 --> 00:23:09,258
♪ They said it wouldn't last ♪
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♪ We had to prove them wrong ♪
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♪ 'Cause I've learned in the past ♪
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♪ That love would never do without you ♪
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- Janet is very private, in a lot of ways.
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00:23:24,278 --> 00:23:24,978
And she was very private
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especially with her life, with René.
473
00:23:28,598 --> 00:23:33,178
There's always an underlying
situation that exists,
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that you know nothing about.
475
00:23:34,838 --> 00:23:39,378
But she seemed to be happy
to me, she really did.
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00:23:39,478 --> 00:23:42,658
♪ I've got the feeling it's right ♪
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- [Rebbie] René helped
Janet grow in to her own
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and flourish as an artist.
479
00:23:47,918 --> 00:23:50,518
(upbeat music)
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- [René] Do that same smile.
481
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- Why?
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- [René] Because I'm shooting
it in different light.
483
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Do that same smile.
484
00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:03,057
- They just had a, how do you say?
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A focus and aspirations of something
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00:24:05,957 --> 00:24:07,697
that they wanted to accomplish.
487
00:24:07,797 --> 00:24:08,737
- So stupid.
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- [René] Look out towards the light.
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- Come on!
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♪ We can make it tonight ♪
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♪ If you give me a sign ♪
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00:24:19,077 --> 00:24:22,657
♪ And I'll be by your side ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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- I was surprised. I was blindsided.
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00:25:01,916 --> 00:25:06,216
I mean, the next thing I find
out she was married. Yeah.
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- Mm-hmm.
497
00:25:08,636 --> 00:25:13,636
(gentle music)
(rain tapping)
498
00:25:21,436 --> 00:25:23,436
- We were out on the beach.
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00:25:25,036 --> 00:25:27,196
It was raining like crazy.
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And that's when he asked me to marry him.
501
00:25:40,156 --> 00:25:41,536
- [Producer] When he proposed to you,
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did it feel different from James?
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00:25:44,956 --> 00:25:47,656
- James never proposed to me,
504
00:25:47,756 --> 00:25:50,015
he never gave me a ring
or anything like that,
505
00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:52,115
so it was different.
506
00:25:53,195 --> 00:25:54,735
- [Producer] Did it feel like this was it?
507
00:25:54,835 --> 00:25:56,835
You were gonna be together forever?
508
00:25:57,915 --> 00:25:59,915
- Mm-hmm.
509
00:26:00,915 --> 00:26:02,915
I wanted it to be it.
510
00:26:04,035 --> 00:26:06,515
But I thought that every time.
511
00:26:08,315 --> 00:26:11,335
(rain tapping)
512
00:26:11,435 --> 00:26:13,375
- Jimmy and I were
talking about the outro,
513
00:26:13,475 --> 00:26:17,575
maybe the outro should echo the intro.
514
00:26:17,675 --> 00:26:20,155
- I agree, that might be kind of cool.
515
00:26:20,995 --> 00:26:25,415
- Janet and I have been
friends for 35 years.
516
00:26:25,515 --> 00:26:27,455
You know, since "Control",
when I first met her,
517
00:26:27,555 --> 00:26:28,935
began interviewing her.
518
00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:31,955
I've gone on tours with her,
I wrote a book with Janet.
519
00:26:32,835 --> 00:26:34,815
But what I've written here is,
520
00:26:34,915 --> 00:26:39,915
"The confusion lifts,
the contradictions melt."
521
00:26:40,995 --> 00:26:43,495
"Control" changed the
whole name of the game.
522
00:26:43,595 --> 00:26:45,975
I mean she became a pop star.
523
00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:48,374
- That's very pretty, David.
524
00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:51,034
- But even with all
the success of "Control",
525
00:26:52,314 --> 00:26:53,894
I don't think she ever was really able
526
00:26:53,994 --> 00:26:57,014
to escape Michael's shadow.
527
00:26:57,114 --> 00:27:00,434
(gentle, anxious music)
528
00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:09,174
- Okay, mother, you
guys want me to get you
529
00:27:09,274 --> 00:27:10,294
something in Milan?
530
00:27:10,394 --> 00:27:13,194
They booked me the whole
time I'm there in Milan.
531
00:27:14,354 --> 00:27:15,814
- [René] From the time you get there to-
532
00:27:15,914 --> 00:27:16,854
- Okay, we arrive there 12:05.
533
00:27:16,954 --> 00:27:18,294
- [René] What time do
we have to be in Munich?
534
00:27:18,394 --> 00:27:19,094
Don't we have time-
535
00:27:19,194 --> 00:27:20,054
- I have to be-
536
00:27:20,154 --> 00:27:23,094
(group talking over each other)
537
00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:24,734
- [René] Munich is the last stop.
538
00:27:24,834 --> 00:27:26,894
- No, it isn't, London is. If we do go.
539
00:27:26,994 --> 00:27:29,614
- [René] Oh. We are in Barcelona.
540
00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:32,314
(upbeat music)
541
00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:34,894
Rome, Italy.
542
00:27:34,994 --> 00:27:35,814
- Hi.
543
00:27:35,914 --> 00:27:38,914
(people chattering)
544
00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:41,854
- [David] For any artist like Janet,
545
00:27:41,954 --> 00:27:46,493
who's had this hit album, a
publicity tour is a big, big deal.
546
00:27:46,593 --> 00:27:49,493
It's a chance to establish her identity.
547
00:27:49,593 --> 00:27:51,893
- You can zoom in a little bit, if you want.
548
00:27:51,993 --> 00:27:55,913
- But in Janet's case,
it was all about Michael.
549
00:27:57,313 --> 00:27:58,973
- Janet, you're in the studio finally.
550
00:27:59,073 --> 00:28:00,053
And, you know, I'm really glad to have you.
551
00:28:00,153 --> 00:28:01,573
Where are you gonna take it from here?
552
00:28:01,673 --> 00:28:04,013
Are you thinking about maybe
doing something live on stage?
553
00:28:04,113 --> 00:28:07,013
- Well, probably next year
I'll start concert touring,
554
00:28:07,113 --> 00:28:08,773
hopefully in the summer,
that's what we want to do,
555
00:28:08,873 --> 00:28:10,573
and hopefully, I'll be
able to come over here.
556
00:28:10,673 --> 00:28:13,353
- One last question. Can I
ask something about Michael?
557
00:28:14,553 --> 00:28:16,453
About the oxygen tank?
558
00:28:16,553 --> 00:28:19,293
- Listen, they say he has it
at home, I haven't seen it yet.
559
00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:22,133
So, I don't know about that oxygen tank.
560
00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:23,013
- That's all I want to know.
561
00:28:23,113 --> 00:28:24,373
(uneasy music)
562
00:28:24,473 --> 00:28:26,573
- Every press opportunity that she had,
563
00:28:26,673 --> 00:28:29,373
it was always about Michael
Jackson's little sister,
564
00:28:29,473 --> 00:28:30,973
or how's your big brother?
565
00:28:31,073 --> 00:28:32,453
- [Interviewer] What
is he doing right now?
566
00:28:32,553 --> 00:28:34,853
- Right now he's in the
studio recording his album.
567
00:28:34,953 --> 00:28:37,413
- [Producer] You and
Michael look like twins.
568
00:28:37,513 --> 00:28:38,733
- You look like Michael Jackson.
569
00:28:38,833 --> 00:28:41,673
(audience cheers)
570
00:28:43,152 --> 00:28:44,172
- It was inevitable, I guess.
571
00:28:44,272 --> 00:28:47,372
But she never really
seemed be able to escape it
572
00:28:47,472 --> 00:28:49,972
even with all the success she was having.
573
00:28:50,072 --> 00:28:51,652
- I love Michael! I love you!
574
00:28:51,752 --> 00:28:52,452
- [Janet] Thank you.
575
00:28:52,552 --> 00:28:54,652
- I want to ask you a question,
is Michael baptised?
576
00:28:54,752 --> 00:28:55,892
- [Janet] Yes.
577
00:28:55,992 --> 00:28:57,572
- [Man] Sorry, we got to go now.
578
00:28:57,672 --> 00:29:02,672
(uneasy music)
(crowd cheering)
579
00:29:11,472 --> 00:29:13,252
- I'm thankful, I really am,
580
00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:16,932
because it has opened up a
great deal of doors for me,
581
00:29:17,032 --> 00:29:17,772
having that name,
582
00:29:17,872 --> 00:29:21,492
and at the same time, there's
a great deal of scrutiny
583
00:29:21,592 --> 00:29:24,452
that comes with having that last name.
584
00:29:24,552 --> 00:29:26,552
A certain expectation.
585
00:29:27,272 --> 00:29:28,812
I wanted my own identity,
586
00:29:28,912 --> 00:29:33,212
I didn't want people to
pick up this body of music
587
00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,332
because of my last name.
588
00:29:35,432 --> 00:29:37,892
And I remember in the
past journalists asking me
589
00:29:37,992 --> 00:29:40,611
about, you know, success of an album,
590
00:29:40,711 --> 00:29:42,491
how are you gonna follow it up.
591
00:29:42,591 --> 00:29:45,531
But it was really always about
doing what was in my heart
592
00:29:45,631 --> 00:29:47,631
what I felt to do.
593
00:29:52,431 --> 00:29:54,411
- [René] It's Minneapolis at dusk.
594
00:29:54,511 --> 00:29:56,891
I'm tellin' ya I hope someday
we'll look back at this tape
595
00:29:56,991 --> 00:30:01,491
and think about all the
ifs that became a reality.
596
00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:02,811
- Well, hopefully what comes out of it
597
00:30:02,911 --> 00:30:05,411
is a very successful album.
598
00:30:05,511 --> 00:30:08,051
I remember when Janet came to Minneapolis
599
00:30:08,151 --> 00:30:10,531
to start what became "Rhythm Nation",
600
00:30:10,631 --> 00:30:12,691
because there was no "Rhythm Nation" idea
601
00:30:12,791 --> 00:30:14,611
when she first came to Minneapolis.
602
00:30:14,711 --> 00:30:18,251
Hello and welcome to
Flyte Tyme's old studios.
603
00:30:18,351 --> 00:30:22,051
This is going to be a history making video
604
00:30:22,151 --> 00:30:25,630
to document the recording
of the "Rhythm Nation" LP.
605
00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:29,491
- I guess there was pressure,
606
00:30:29,591 --> 00:30:31,891
because after you sell 6 million records,
607
00:30:31,991 --> 00:30:34,731
now everybody wants to hear everything.
608
00:30:34,831 --> 00:30:37,011
Everybody wants to have a piece
609
00:30:37,111 --> 00:30:39,270
of what's going on creatively.
610
00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,530
- It's a lot of pressure,
it's a lot of work.
611
00:30:43,630 --> 00:30:46,490
And either you can handle it or you can't.
612
00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:49,990
It does affect you, and
what you do with that
613
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:54,230
really is important.
614
00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:58,730
- We had disagreements.
615
00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:00,450
If she disagreed with something,
616
00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:01,970
she was stubborn, I will say that.
617
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,450
Janet was very stubborn,
618
00:31:03,550 --> 00:31:07,730
but she would still
attempt to do something.
619
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:10,470
You know how you sang the
first one, the first vocal?
620
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:13,730
- Yeah.
- Like when you first went in there,
621
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:17,290
like you had some, a little bit
of oomph happenin' and stuff?
622
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:18,130
- [Janet] Yeah.
623
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:20,870
- That's what I need, more
of that kind of thing, okay?
624
00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:24,650
Okay, are you there?
625
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:25,970
- [Janet] Yeah.
626
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:28,070
- Okay, here we go.
627
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:32,470
(Janet sings)
628
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:35,610
First verse.
629
00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:36,450
- [Janet] Is that the front page?
630
00:31:36,550 --> 00:31:37,409
- Yeah.
631
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:38,449
- [Janet] Okay.
632
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:41,229
(upbeat music)
633
00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:48,609
♪ Now that you are older
and you begin to see ♪
634
00:31:48,709 --> 00:31:49,889
- Ehhh.
635
00:31:49,989 --> 00:31:52,249
- [Janet] What is it?
What does it need?
636
00:31:52,349 --> 00:31:54,289
- Energy, or something, attitude, or something.
637
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:55,609
- [Janet] All right,
let's just try it again.
638
00:31:55,709 --> 00:31:56,529
- [Jimmy] Here we go.
639
00:31:56,629 --> 00:31:58,689
(upbeat music)
640
00:31:58,789 --> 00:32:03,249
♪ As a child I missed a
lot of love I never had ♪
641
00:32:03,349 --> 00:32:05,669
What are you laughing about?
642
00:32:06,749 --> 00:32:10,249
- Nothing, just you're
fine. Doing fine.
643
00:32:10,349 --> 00:32:12,129
- [Janet] No, but, what, tell me what's wrong, Jimmy.
644
00:32:12,229 --> 00:32:12,969
- Nothin'.
645
00:32:13,069 --> 00:32:14,609
- [Janet] You're sitting there laughing,
646
00:32:14,709 --> 00:32:15,649
and I'm trying to get this right.
647
00:32:15,749 --> 00:32:18,369
- But you're doing fine, don't
be paying no attention to us.
648
00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:20,889
- I can't, I don't have to
take this shit no more.
649
00:32:20,989 --> 00:32:23,169
(Jimmy laughing)
650
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:24,729
- [Janet] You got to tell me
something 'cause it's like
651
00:32:24,829 --> 00:32:26,769
I keep singing this over and over and
652
00:32:26,869 --> 00:32:27,969
you're not telling me
- [Jimmy] There's no energy.
653
00:32:28,069 --> 00:32:28,809
- [Janet] what I need.
654
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:31,769
- Energy! You know how you,
you know how to sing.
655
00:32:31,869 --> 00:32:33,869
You know, put the thing on it.
656
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,088
No man, René, cool that off.
657
00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,188
- [René] You want me to cut it?
658
00:32:39,788 --> 00:32:40,528
Okay.
659
00:32:40,628 --> 00:32:42,408
- You know what I'm talking
about I mean, you know, just some-
660
00:32:42,508 --> 00:32:43,768
- [Janet] I've been singing it all night
661
00:32:43,868 --> 00:32:45,688
and you keep saying "uh-uh, it's nothin'"
662
00:32:45,788 --> 00:32:47,208
I'm sick of that.
- There's no energy.
663
00:32:47,308 --> 00:32:48,648
You can hear this shit
the way it sounds,
664
00:32:48,748 --> 00:32:51,088
there ain't no energy on the song.
665
00:32:51,188 --> 00:32:51,968
(door bangs)
666
00:32:52,068 --> 00:32:54,128
It's got to have some energy happening.
667
00:32:54,228 --> 00:32:56,968
You're the singer, all
you got to do is sing.
668
00:32:57,068 --> 00:32:58,248
We're trying to make a record,
669
00:32:58,348 --> 00:33:00,848
we're trying to follow
up a fucking big album.
670
00:33:00,948 --> 00:33:03,728
- No, I don't need this. I don't need
you guys' attitude.
671
00:33:03,828 --> 00:33:05,688
I mean, this has just gone too far.
672
00:33:05,788 --> 00:33:07,128
I'm going home. I'm leaving tomorrow.
673
00:33:07,228 --> 00:33:07,968
- [René] Janet.
674
00:33:08,068 --> 00:33:10,128
- [Janet] I'm sick... No,
René, I'm sick of this.
675
00:33:10,228 --> 00:33:12,248
We finished, what, four, five songs.
676
00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:14,968
- [Janet] Yeah, but the thing is
677
00:33:15,068 --> 00:33:16,488
we can do that stuff and then-
678
00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:19,008
- [Janet] Well, I'm just
going to tell them the truth.
679
00:33:19,108 --> 00:33:22,488
It's just not going right.
It's not happening, that's all.
680
00:33:22,588 --> 00:33:25,848
(door closes)
(tense music)
681
00:33:25,948 --> 00:33:27,948
Fuck.
682
00:33:31,597 --> 00:33:33,597
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy!
683
00:33:35,077 --> 00:33:38,097
(Jimmy laughing)
684
00:33:38,196 --> 00:33:39,017
- We didn't agree on everything,
685
00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,857
but we always came to an agreement,
686
00:33:41,955 --> 00:33:42,936
so that we were all happy.
687
00:33:43,037 --> 00:33:44,537
And I think that's the
way I always looked at it.
688
00:33:44,637 --> 00:33:46,297
I never looked at it as an argument
689
00:33:46,396 --> 00:33:48,337
like we were trying to win an argument.
690
00:33:48,436 --> 00:33:50,735
- People don't hear the same
things at the same times,
691
00:33:50,837 --> 00:33:53,137
but you know that's just
part of the discovery.
692
00:33:53,235 --> 00:33:56,337
Just understanding, you know, the process.
693
00:33:56,436 --> 00:33:59,396
Praise God that Janet
found the groove with us.
694
00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:03,776
- [Jimmy] Sing it.
695
00:34:03,877 --> 00:34:06,097
♪ With music by our side ♪
696
00:34:06,196 --> 00:34:08,017
♪ Let's break the colour lines ♪
697
00:34:08,117 --> 00:34:10,456
I love the creative process.
698
00:34:10,556 --> 00:34:11,295
There's a lot of people
699
00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:13,176
that think I just come into the studio
700
00:34:13,277 --> 00:34:16,176
and I sing a song, but I write.
701
00:34:16,277 --> 00:34:19,216
I write lyrics, I write melodies.
702
00:34:19,316 --> 00:34:21,614
- That just makes it
a little more melodic.
703
00:34:21,716 --> 00:34:24,216
(humming) A little more positive sound.
704
00:34:24,316 --> 00:34:25,773
- Yeah.
705
00:34:25,876 --> 00:34:27,975
- This is really good.
706
00:34:28,076 --> 00:34:29,496
She's talking about race relations.
707
00:34:29,595 --> 00:34:33,694
She's talking about crime and
drugs and lack of education.
708
00:34:33,795 --> 00:34:35,176
And that was not the kind of record
709
00:34:35,273 --> 00:34:37,273
that was on the pop charts at the time.
710
00:34:39,154 --> 00:34:40,416
(artillery shooting)
711
00:34:40,514 --> 00:34:43,435
(emotional music)
712
00:34:50,475 --> 00:34:52,935
- [Janet] There were things in
the world that concerned me.
713
00:34:53,036 --> 00:34:55,295
Things that I wanted to say.
714
00:34:55,395 --> 00:34:58,255
- "Rhythm Nation" was
a little bit of a risk.
715
00:34:58,355 --> 00:35:02,456
We knew that making a
socially conscious album
716
00:35:02,554 --> 00:35:05,095
was probably not what the record company
717
00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:08,076
or anybody else was thinking
we should probably be doing.
718
00:35:09,355 --> 00:35:11,095
So, we didn't tell them.
719
00:35:11,194 --> 00:35:12,935
(energetic music)
720
00:35:13,036 --> 00:35:15,176
♪ With music by our side ♪
721
00:35:15,273 --> 00:35:17,255
♪ To break the colour lines ♪
722
00:35:17,355 --> 00:35:19,336
♪ Let's work together ♪
723
00:35:19,435 --> 00:35:21,614
♪ To improve our way of life ♪
724
00:35:21,715 --> 00:35:23,773
♪ Join voices in protest ♪
725
00:35:23,873 --> 00:35:26,014
♪ To social injustice ♪
726
00:35:26,114 --> 00:35:29,014
♪ A generation full of courage ♪
727
00:35:29,114 --> 00:35:32,194
♪ Come forth with me ♪
728
00:35:35,353 --> 00:35:38,413
- I remember there was a big
clamouring for her to tour
729
00:35:38,514 --> 00:35:40,175
and I remember her saying,
730
00:35:40,273 --> 00:35:42,654
"I don't feel like I have enough songs.
731
00:35:42,755 --> 00:35:46,095
I need to make more songs,
and then I'll tour."
732
00:35:46,194 --> 00:35:48,853
And I said, okay, well
the "Rhythm Nation" tour
733
00:35:48,953 --> 00:35:52,675
has to be the biggest
tour ever, in history.
734
00:35:55,033 --> 00:35:57,953
(Big Ben striking)
735
00:35:59,835 --> 00:36:03,215
I never heard her say,
"I want to beat Michael"
736
00:36:03,313 --> 00:36:06,175
like those words never ever happened.
737
00:36:06,273 --> 00:36:08,694
But the competition to me
was more within herself
738
00:36:08,795 --> 00:36:10,795
to do the best that she could do.
739
00:36:11,595 --> 00:36:14,095
- [Reporter] Pop star Michael
Jackson's nationwide tour
740
00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:16,395
begins at Wembley stadium today.
741
00:36:17,475 --> 00:36:20,292
- I remember when he was in
London, I went to visit him.
742
00:36:20,394 --> 00:36:21,133
(crowd cheering)
743
00:36:21,234 --> 00:36:25,894
I saw so many of Mike's fans,
from all over the world.
744
00:36:25,993 --> 00:36:28,853
(audience cheers)
745
00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:32,094
- When Janet goes to
England and she sees Michael
746
00:36:32,194 --> 00:36:35,072
on the "Bad" tour, I don't
think she had any idea
747
00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:40,533
it would be as spectacular as it was,
748
00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:42,633
and this blows her mind.
749
00:36:43,913 --> 00:36:46,653
(cameras clicking)
750
00:36:46,752 --> 00:36:49,394
- Seeing Michael
definitely inspired Janet.
751
00:36:50,712 --> 00:36:53,533
She knew that she needed more,
752
00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:58,394
to really become, in her mind,
what would be a real artist.
753
00:37:01,033 --> 00:37:03,493
- Janet Jackson is live
in concert tonight.
754
00:37:03,594 --> 00:37:05,334
- Singer Janet Jackson
has sold 8 million albums
755
00:37:05,434 --> 00:37:07,434
without ever performing in public.
756
00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:13,974
- This is my first tour.
757
00:37:14,072 --> 00:37:17,273
Everyone's been saying this
is really a major tour.
758
00:37:18,193 --> 00:37:20,813
Especially for an artist
going out for the first time,
759
00:37:20,911 --> 00:37:25,172
but I wanted it to be
special for the audience.
760
00:37:25,273 --> 00:37:27,273
Ricardo, can you close the door?
761
00:37:28,911 --> 00:37:30,911
Oh, that's René (laughs).
762
00:37:35,112 --> 00:37:37,011
- I've been there from the beginning,
763
00:37:37,112 --> 00:37:40,533
so there's no one else
that she can really trust
764
00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:44,712
to make sure that her story,
her philosophy comes across.
765
00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:47,133
Listen you guys,
766
00:37:47,233 --> 00:37:49,693
the very opening to this thing,
the way it's gonna happen
767
00:37:49,792 --> 00:37:51,853
is someone will say,
"Five, six, seven, eight."
768
00:37:51,953 --> 00:37:55,051
Or you'll hear the tapping
or something, to set you off.
769
00:37:55,153 --> 00:37:58,153
And without music, everybody
will hit this piece right here.
770
00:38:00,193 --> 00:38:01,493
- My name is Wayne Scott Lukas,
771
00:38:01,591 --> 00:38:03,591
I'm a celebrity fashion stylist.
772
00:38:04,591 --> 00:38:06,953
When I first met Janet, she was with René.
773
00:38:07,831 --> 00:38:12,653
And, you know, it was
a magic relationship.
774
00:38:12,752 --> 00:38:14,331
- Okay, real quick, you guys, listen.
775
00:38:14,431 --> 00:38:18,652
So you'll hear the five,
four, three, two, one, down
776
00:38:18,752 --> 00:38:20,952
- I thought it was this hand.
777
00:38:22,112 --> 00:38:24,452
It's this hand? Oh God.
778
00:38:24,551 --> 00:38:28,492
He is really an important
collaborator. He's my best friend.
779
00:38:28,591 --> 00:38:31,850
I know that with him that
everything will be fine,
780
00:38:31,952 --> 00:38:34,051
and I can trust him, and
everything will get done
781
00:38:34,152 --> 00:38:36,152
the way it should be done.
782
00:38:36,711 --> 00:38:38,572
Oops. (laughs)
783
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:42,252
- Woah. (indistinct)
- I didn't mean to do that.
784
00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:44,850
- He was cute and he was handsome,
785
00:38:44,952 --> 00:38:48,211
but he had so much power off of her back,
786
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:51,091
that you just didn't cross René.
787
00:38:51,191 --> 00:38:52,452
- The feeling we're gonna try to get
788
00:38:52,551 --> 00:38:54,492
is that everybody is
actually breathing in unison,
789
00:38:54,591 --> 00:38:58,270
if you guys can understand that
so it'll be like (exhales).
790
00:38:59,952 --> 00:39:01,292
- But when they were together,
791
00:39:01,392 --> 00:39:03,452
they were a fireball of creative,
792
00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:05,871
that's how talented they were as a team.
793
00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:09,770
- Janet can't be everywhere
at the same time,
794
00:39:09,871 --> 00:39:11,492
so that's kind of where I fit in.
795
00:39:11,591 --> 00:39:13,251
I'm an extension of Janet.
796
00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:18,350
And bam. And then it goes,
five, four, three, two, one. Ho.
797
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:23,569
(emotional music)
798
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:25,411
- [Janet] The night
before my opening night
799
00:39:25,511 --> 00:39:27,130
I had this dream.
800
00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:30,389
I went out on stage, did the first number,
801
00:39:31,389 --> 00:39:34,630
and I could hear three people
applauding in the audience.
802
00:39:35,791 --> 00:39:37,791
No one had come to the show.
803
00:39:40,429 --> 00:39:43,569
The very next day there
was a long line of cars
804
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:46,331
down the road and all I
could see were headlights.
805
00:39:46,429 --> 00:39:48,411
- I drove about six hours here.
806
00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:51,211
- And I was wondering where
are these people going?
807
00:39:51,310 --> 00:39:52,569
- [Crowd] We want Janet!
808
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:53,429
- [Reporter] I'll tell you what,
809
00:39:53,511 --> 00:39:54,529
it's a heck of a scene down here,
810
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:56,889
we're really looking forward
to the concert tonight.
811
00:39:56,989 --> 00:40:00,470
How you folks doing up
there? You doing all right?
812
00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:04,251
- I've been waiting for this
concert for a long time.
813
00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:07,770
- [Janet] At that moment
I was just so thankful.
814
00:40:07,871 --> 00:40:12,868
- [Team] Rhythm Nation!
815
00:40:12,989 --> 00:40:15,929
- [Presenter] Are you
ready for the one lady
816
00:40:16,029 --> 00:40:20,810
that has taken the nation by
storm, with a positive message?
817
00:40:20,908 --> 00:40:22,408
'Cause you know what?
818
00:40:22,510 --> 00:40:26,770
She's not Michael Jackson's
little sister anymore.
819
00:40:26,868 --> 00:40:27,609
(audience cheers)
820
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:30,529
♪ Five, four, three, two, one ♪
821
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:33,470
(energetic music)
822
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:36,688
♪ With music by our side ♪
823
00:40:36,788 --> 00:40:39,050
♪ To break the colour lines ♪
824
00:40:39,148 --> 00:40:40,569
♪ Let's work together ♪
825
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:43,130
♪ To improve our way of life ♪
826
00:40:43,228 --> 00:40:45,248
♪ Join voices in protest ♪
827
00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:47,810
♪ To social injustice ♪
828
00:40:47,908 --> 00:40:50,170
♪ A generation full of courage ♪
829
00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:52,090
♪ Come forth with me ♪
830
00:40:52,188 --> 00:40:53,288
♪ People of the world today ♪
831
00:40:53,389 --> 00:40:56,288
♪ Are we looking for a better way of life ♪
- [Janet] Sing!
832
00:40:56,389 --> 00:41:00,328
♪ We are a part of
the rhythm nation ♪
833
00:41:00,429 --> 00:41:01,688
♪ People of the world unite ♪
834
00:41:01,788 --> 00:41:03,529
♪ Strength in numbers
we can get it right ♪
835
00:41:03,630 --> 00:41:04,728
♪ One time ♪
- [Janet] Sing it out!
836
00:41:04,828 --> 00:41:08,969
♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪
837
00:41:09,069 --> 00:41:10,769
♪ This is the test ♪
838
00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:13,809
♪ No struggle no progress ♪
839
00:41:13,908 --> 00:41:17,609
♪ Lend a hand to help your
brother do his best ♪
840
00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:19,288
♪ Things are getting worse ♪
841
00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:22,167
♪ We have to make them better ♪
842
00:41:22,269 --> 00:41:23,648
♪ It's time to give a damn ♪
843
00:41:23,748 --> 00:41:26,248
♪ Let's work together come on, now ♪
844
00:41:26,349 --> 00:41:27,528
♪ People of the world today ♪
845
00:41:27,627 --> 00:41:30,408
♪ Are we looking for a better way of life ♪
- [Janet] Sing!
846
00:41:30,508 --> 00:41:34,609
♪ We are a part of
the rhythm nation ♪
847
00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:36,047
♪ People of the world unite ♪
848
00:41:36,148 --> 00:41:38,167
♪ Strength in numbers
we can get it right one time ♪
849
00:41:38,269 --> 00:41:39,047
- [Janet] Sing it out!
850
00:41:39,148 --> 00:41:43,328
♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪
851
00:41:43,429 --> 00:41:44,688
- [Reporter] And it was a big night
852
00:41:44,788 --> 00:41:46,127
for Janet Jackson last night,
853
00:41:46,228 --> 00:41:47,648
she picked up her first ever Grammy
854
00:41:47,748 --> 00:41:49,288
and became the first woman nominated
855
00:41:49,389 --> 00:41:52,167
for the prestigious
Producer of the Year award.
856
00:41:52,269 --> 00:41:54,648
- It didn't feel like, oh my
God like she's preaching us.
857
00:41:54,748 --> 00:41:56,368
It was dope.
858
00:41:56,469 --> 00:41:59,167
- The statement that she
was making was powerful,
859
00:41:59,269 --> 00:42:02,809
so her influence is something
that you can't escape.
860
00:42:02,908 --> 00:42:03,889
- Everybody was walking around
861
00:42:03,987 --> 00:42:05,987
dressed like that, imitating it.
862
00:42:07,228 --> 00:42:08,568
- It's like I'm an army of one
863
00:42:08,667 --> 00:42:11,728
and I'm marching through a
whole 'nother battlefield.
864
00:42:11,828 --> 00:42:13,966
- She's a blueprint.
865
00:42:14,068 --> 00:42:16,087
♪ Sing it people ♪
866
00:42:16,188 --> 00:42:18,368
♪ Sing it children ♪
867
00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:23,306
♪ Sing it if you want
a better way of life ♪
868
00:42:24,148 --> 00:42:26,987
(audience cheers)
869
00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:38,206
- The "Rhythm Nation" tour
was the biggest debut tour
870
00:42:38,306 --> 00:42:42,886
in history, and that's a record
she still holds to this day.
871
00:42:42,987 --> 00:42:44,728
- Janet you're number one.
872
00:42:44,828 --> 00:42:46,806
- She's a great dancer,
she's a great singer.
873
00:42:46,908 --> 00:42:48,768
She's a great everything. She's got it all.
874
00:42:48,868 --> 00:42:51,806
- Michael was bad, but Janet was dyno-mite.
875
00:42:51,908 --> 00:42:54,728
- She has made a name for
herself, she's different.
876
00:42:54,828 --> 00:42:56,368
I like her style.
877
00:42:56,466 --> 00:42:59,828
- You are the best, don't
forget it, you're the best.
878
00:43:02,466 --> 00:43:03,886
- [Photographer] That's
it perfect, right there.
879
00:43:03,987 --> 00:43:05,005
- Congratulations on your-
880
00:43:05,105 --> 00:43:06,367
- Aww, thanks.
881
00:43:06,466 --> 00:43:09,806
- Janet is now seen as
an important artist.
882
00:43:09,907 --> 00:43:11,907
As important as Michael.
883
00:43:13,667 --> 00:43:17,645
She was reaching a very, very
high point in her career,
884
00:43:17,746 --> 00:43:19,846
but what Janet didn't know at the time
885
00:43:19,947 --> 00:43:23,066
is that there would be
major problems ahead.
886
00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:26,767
- New details are emerging
about the police investigation
887
00:43:26,867 --> 00:43:28,167
of pop star Michael Jackson.
888
00:43:28,267 --> 00:43:29,645
- Although we have confirmed
889
00:43:29,746 --> 00:43:31,767
the existence of the investigation,
890
00:43:31,867 --> 00:43:35,127
we have not disclosed any
of the specifics publicly.
891
00:43:35,225 --> 00:43:36,966
- [Reporter] Two of
Michael Jackson's homes
892
00:43:37,066 --> 00:43:38,645
were searched over the weekend.
893
00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:40,846
- [Man] I hope he isn't going
to be tarred and feathered
894
00:43:40,947 --> 00:43:44,407
before there is any
real proof of anything.
895
00:43:44,505 --> 00:43:45,426
- [Reporter] Despite all the controversy
896
00:43:45,505 --> 00:43:46,447
surrounding her brother Michael,
897
00:43:46,545 --> 00:43:48,545
the show must go on for Janet Jackson.
898
00:43:50,386 --> 00:43:51,566
- [Producer] When the allegation came out,
899
00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:54,086
you got tarred with that at the same time.
900
00:43:54,185 --> 00:43:56,005
- Mm-hmm.
901
00:43:56,105 --> 00:43:58,246
Guilty by association.
902
00:43:58,346 --> 00:44:00,346
I guess that's what they call it, right?
903
00:44:02,145 --> 00:44:04,706
(tense music)
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