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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,072 --> 00:00:04,932 - This is where it started. 2 00:00:05,032 --> 00:00:07,892 - [Janet] My father definitely had a plan, 3 00:00:07,992 --> 00:00:09,532 he wanted a better life for us. 4 00:00:09,632 --> 00:00:10,812 - [Presenter] Michael, Marlon, Jermaine, 5 00:00:10,912 --> 00:00:14,292 Tito and Jackie, the mighty-mighty Jackson 5. 6 00:00:14,392 --> 00:00:16,052 (audience cheers) 7 00:00:16,152 --> 00:00:17,412 - [Producer] Did you ever have any visions 8 00:00:17,512 --> 00:00:19,652 that the kids would be this successful? 9 00:00:19,752 --> 00:00:21,752 - I had a vision it would happen. 10 00:00:22,712 --> 00:00:23,572 - [Randy] Ladies and gentlemen, 11 00:00:23,672 --> 00:00:24,972 I'd like to introduce Janet Jackson. 12 00:00:25,072 --> 00:00:27,072 - [Janet] We had to go to work. 13 00:00:28,032 --> 00:00:29,772 - [Producer] Do they resent it? 14 00:00:29,872 --> 00:00:30,612 - Yes. 15 00:00:30,712 --> 00:00:32,212 - [Janet] My father was in charge of my life, 16 00:00:32,312 --> 00:00:34,372 my career and he was my manager. 17 00:00:34,472 --> 00:00:35,232 - [Producer] You're not going to do this 18 00:00:35,312 --> 00:00:36,052 for the rest of your life? 19 00:00:36,152 --> 00:00:37,452 - I want to go to college. 20 00:00:37,552 --> 00:00:39,252 He said you're gonna sing. 21 00:00:39,352 --> 00:00:41,852 You really didn't say no to my father. 22 00:00:41,952 --> 00:00:43,932 - Keep them under control, 23 00:00:44,032 --> 00:00:46,252 and there's no way you can go wrong. 24 00:00:46,352 --> 00:00:47,132 - Oh, no. 25 00:00:47,232 --> 00:00:48,692 - Oh my God Penny! What? 26 00:00:48,792 --> 00:00:51,212 - I have to start being independent. 27 00:00:51,312 --> 00:00:52,072 There was no other way I would be able 28 00:00:52,152 --> 00:00:55,992 to kind of get my own life unless I got married. 29 00:00:57,712 --> 00:00:59,611 - I like a lady that has a soft heart 30 00:00:59,711 --> 00:01:03,211 and is willing to understand anything no matter what. 31 00:01:03,311 --> 00:01:04,731 It wasn't easy for us to see each other, 32 00:01:04,831 --> 00:01:08,211 being that she was very well protected by her mom and dad. 33 00:01:08,311 --> 00:01:11,411 You know, who is this guy? What is he into? 34 00:01:11,511 --> 00:01:14,831 - I eventually learned that he was into drugs. 35 00:01:17,751 --> 00:01:19,751 I was just incredibly innocent. 36 00:01:21,031 --> 00:01:23,011 - The stunning report about one of America's 37 00:01:23,111 --> 00:01:25,051 hottest pop stars. 38 00:01:25,151 --> 00:01:27,571 She gave birth to a daughter and kept it all secret. 39 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:29,611 - [Reporter] The father, her first husband, 40 00:01:29,711 --> 00:01:30,811 singer James DeBarge. 41 00:01:30,911 --> 00:01:33,091 - [Reporter] She was supposedly placed in foster care. 42 00:01:33,191 --> 00:01:36,151 - [Reporter] Does Janet Jackson have a secret daughter? 43 00:01:43,231 --> 00:01:46,871 (emotional, anxious music) 44 00:01:50,751 --> 00:01:52,131 - For more than three decades, 45 00:01:52,231 --> 00:01:55,011 rumours have swirled that Janet had a secret daughter 46 00:01:55,111 --> 00:01:57,390 with first husband James DeBarge. 47 00:02:00,550 --> 00:02:04,090 They eloped in 1984, Janet was just 18. 48 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:07,490 Their marriage lasted one year before being annulled. 49 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:10,450 Janet has never said a word about whether or not 50 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:14,250 she had a secret baby, but according to published reports, 51 00:02:14,350 --> 00:02:16,170 the girl's name is René, 52 00:02:16,270 --> 00:02:19,590 and she was raised by Janet's older sister, Rebbie. 53 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:24,110 - [Producer] Rumours about you having James' baby, 54 00:02:25,230 --> 00:02:27,230 are they true? 55 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:30,470 (Janet exhales) 56 00:02:31,870 --> 00:02:32,770 - [Woman] Rolling. 57 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:34,010 - [Man] Action! 58 00:02:34,110 --> 00:02:36,010 - I don't even believe this, I was so terrible. 59 00:02:36,110 --> 00:02:37,650 I was just terrible. 60 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:39,730 - Oh, please Cleo, you wasn't terrible. 61 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:41,130 - Leroy, I wasn't even good. 62 00:02:41,230 --> 00:02:43,050 Back in the day, they were saying 63 00:02:43,150 --> 00:02:45,510 that I had a child and I kept it secret. 64 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:48,790 - Oh people, we got trouble. 65 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:54,090 These were rumours that were just flying around, honey, 66 00:02:54,190 --> 00:02:56,549 like hash in a diner. It was... (laughs) 67 00:02:57,749 --> 00:03:00,609 But what was sticking on the wall was, where was the baby? 68 00:03:00,709 --> 00:03:01,569 Nobody saw a baby, 69 00:03:01,669 --> 00:03:04,289 I mean, she was there with us all day, every day. 70 00:03:04,389 --> 00:03:07,229 Where was the baby? What, where, who, where? 71 00:03:09,749 --> 00:03:12,309 - They were saying that I was raising her daughter. 72 00:03:13,269 --> 00:03:14,929 I couldn't believe it. 73 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:18,009 - First, they were saying my niece Brandy was my daughter 74 00:03:18,109 --> 00:03:20,429 and that I gave it to Jackie to raise. 75 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:25,989 And then, because Randy's daughter looks so much like me, 76 00:03:27,069 --> 00:03:29,149 then they started saying it was Stevana. 77 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:33,409 - I don't understand why you're being so hard on yourself. 78 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:35,329 - When I was doing "Fame", 79 00:03:35,429 --> 00:03:37,089 a lot of the kids thought I was pregnant 80 00:03:37,189 --> 00:03:38,049 because I had gained weight, 81 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:39,769 and I had started taking birth control pills 82 00:03:39,869 --> 00:03:42,009 and back then, you could pick up weight taking them 83 00:03:42,109 --> 00:03:44,329 and that's what happened to me. 84 00:03:44,429 --> 00:03:47,309 So, that rumour started going around. 85 00:03:48,589 --> 00:03:50,889 (cameras clicking) 86 00:03:50,989 --> 00:03:52,768 I don't like when journalists, 87 00:03:52,868 --> 00:03:54,988 when they try to trip you up like that. 88 00:03:55,868 --> 00:03:59,668 I don't like the weight of that negativity around me. 89 00:04:02,308 --> 00:04:04,468 I could never keep a child away from James. 90 00:04:09,588 --> 00:04:12,368 How could I keep a child from their father? 91 00:04:12,468 --> 00:04:14,588 I could never do that, that's not right. 92 00:04:16,188 --> 00:04:19,508 - I don't know where that ridiculous idea came from. 93 00:04:21,508 --> 00:04:26,528 It's funny, the rumours, that's a whole 'nother story. 94 00:04:26,628 --> 00:04:27,648 I mean there's not a time 95 00:04:27,748 --> 00:04:30,008 when I haven't stepped in the food market 96 00:04:30,108 --> 00:04:33,008 and see somebody in my family on the magazine. 97 00:04:33,108 --> 00:04:35,048 (chuckles) Oh gosh. 98 00:04:35,148 --> 00:04:37,828 (pensive music) 99 00:04:39,028 --> 00:04:40,568 - [Janet] They always tried to make my brother 100 00:04:40,668 --> 00:04:42,668 seem like some sort of a freak. 101 00:04:47,988 --> 00:04:51,927 - Yeah, I remember seeing that change happen. 102 00:04:52,027 --> 00:04:55,647 I remember, for me, the moment that it happened, 103 00:04:55,747 --> 00:04:58,407 'cause we were very close, we were very close. 104 00:04:58,507 --> 00:05:00,907 We did everything together, everything. 105 00:05:01,907 --> 00:05:07,087 It was "Thriller". That's when it all started changing. 106 00:05:07,187 --> 00:05:08,927 (tense music) 107 00:05:09,027 --> 00:05:12,567 (indistinct chatter) (cameras clicking) 108 00:05:12,667 --> 00:05:14,047 - [Reporter] Michael Jackson's album "Thriller" 109 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:16,847 has sold more than 70 million copies worldwide. 110 00:05:16,947 --> 00:05:19,807 - [Reporter] "Thriller" earned him more than $25 million. 111 00:05:19,907 --> 00:05:21,887 - [Reporter] A record breaking six hit singles. 112 00:05:21,987 --> 00:05:23,567 - [Reporter] The number one solo performer 113 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:25,667 in the history of the music business. 114 00:05:26,387 --> 00:05:27,927 - Whenever Mike would do an album, 115 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:31,447 he'd throw me in his car, and we'd listen to it 116 00:05:31,547 --> 00:05:34,407 from front to back to see what I thought. 117 00:05:34,507 --> 00:05:37,887 I remember really loving the "Thriller" album, 118 00:05:37,987 --> 00:05:39,567 but for the first time in my life, 119 00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:43,687 that's when I felt it was different between the two of us. 120 00:05:43,787 --> 00:05:46,947 That a shift was happening. 121 00:05:49,066 --> 00:05:52,206 He would always come in my room and we'd talk, 122 00:05:52,306 --> 00:05:56,006 and this particular time he came in my bedroom. 123 00:05:56,106 --> 00:05:58,946 Neither one of us said a word to each other, 124 00:06:01,506 --> 00:06:03,506 and then he got up and left. 125 00:06:05,506 --> 00:06:07,046 (cameras clicking) 126 00:06:07,146 --> 00:06:08,526 - [Reporter] The story for the night for the press, 127 00:06:08,626 --> 00:06:11,086 was the frustration backstage when Michael Jackson declined 128 00:06:11,186 --> 00:06:12,806 to talk to any reporters. 129 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:14,906 - You can see how Michael feels. 130 00:06:16,826 --> 00:06:19,846 - That's the time where Mike and I 131 00:06:19,946 --> 00:06:22,126 started kind of going our separate ways. 132 00:06:22,226 --> 00:06:24,226 We weren't as close. 133 00:06:25,306 --> 00:06:26,046 And it may have been 134 00:06:26,146 --> 00:06:29,726 just because he was so massive, so huge. 135 00:06:29,826 --> 00:06:31,826 Huge. 136 00:06:32,546 --> 00:06:33,306 - [Producer] When was the last time 137 00:06:33,386 --> 00:06:34,126 you talked to Michael? 138 00:06:34,226 --> 00:06:35,566 - The last time I saw him, 139 00:06:35,666 --> 00:06:39,486 and we were able to talk together, was over a year ago. 140 00:06:39,586 --> 00:06:41,126 - Over a year ago, seems like a long time. 141 00:06:41,226 --> 00:06:43,226 - Michael is very busy. 142 00:06:43,946 --> 00:06:46,166 - [Reporter] More than 5,000 Michael Jackson fans 143 00:06:46,266 --> 00:06:47,965 stood on Hollywood Boulevard for hours, 144 00:06:48,065 --> 00:06:50,365 waiting for a glimpse of the mysterious rockstar. 145 00:06:50,465 --> 00:06:53,405 In the end, Michael Jackson was here for about a minute. 146 00:06:53,505 --> 00:06:55,125 (crowd cheering) 147 00:06:55,225 --> 00:06:57,125 - When you have the last name Jackson, 148 00:06:57,225 --> 00:06:59,445 there's a certain microscope 149 00:06:59,545 --> 00:07:02,705 that they want to use with that. 150 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:05,505 - [Producer] No matter what you do, 151 00:07:05,585 --> 00:07:06,845 you've got the Jackson name, 152 00:07:06,945 --> 00:07:08,965 you've got the Jackson connections. 153 00:07:09,065 --> 00:07:10,845 What are the disadvantages? 154 00:07:10,945 --> 00:07:14,605 - Well, I think the disadvantage for me 155 00:07:14,705 --> 00:07:16,705 is choosing a friend. 156 00:07:18,705 --> 00:07:19,445 'Cause you don't know 157 00:07:19,545 --> 00:07:21,665 if they're really being your friend for... 158 00:07:23,545 --> 00:07:26,025 Is it who you are or what you are? 159 00:07:26,945 --> 00:07:27,885 Do they just want to be your friend 160 00:07:27,985 --> 00:07:30,205 because you're Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson's sister? 161 00:07:30,305 --> 00:07:31,445 Or do they want to be your friend 162 00:07:31,545 --> 00:07:33,765 because they really like you deep down inside? 163 00:07:33,865 --> 00:07:35,645 Your personality? 164 00:07:35,745 --> 00:07:36,845 And I think that's been 165 00:07:36,945 --> 00:07:39,525 one of the hardest things for me to do. 166 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:41,525 I don't have very many friends. 167 00:07:41,625 --> 00:07:43,565 (somber music) 168 00:07:43,665 --> 00:07:46,924 I wanted my own identity, but at that time, 169 00:07:47,024 --> 00:07:50,444 my father was in charge of my life, 170 00:07:50,544 --> 00:07:53,084 my career and he was my manager. 171 00:07:53,184 --> 00:07:55,504 There were things that I wanted to do, 172 00:07:56,704 --> 00:08:00,704 and just a direction I wanted to go in that I... 173 00:08:02,744 --> 00:08:08,444 That I...Like I said, it's hard to say no to my father, 174 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:12,684 so in order to do the things the way I wanted to do it, 175 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:16,944 I guess he would have to be out of the picture. 176 00:08:18,104 --> 00:08:19,844 (somber music) 177 00:08:19,944 --> 00:08:23,604 I knew that I had to take control of my life. 178 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:25,604 I wanted my own identity. 179 00:08:25,704 --> 00:08:28,244 (dramatic music) 180 00:08:28,344 --> 00:08:30,344 I wanted to go on my own. 181 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:34,004 Michael has always told me three things, 182 00:08:34,104 --> 00:08:38,084 that's to always practice, to never give up, 183 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:41,524 and to have self-confidence if I want to make it. 184 00:08:41,624 --> 00:08:44,363 I told myself okay I was going to take another go at this, 185 00:08:44,463 --> 00:08:48,643 but if I take another go at this, do another album, 186 00:08:48,743 --> 00:08:52,143 I'm gonna have to do it the way I see fit. 187 00:08:55,543 --> 00:08:57,643 The first thing I had to do, I felt, 188 00:08:57,743 --> 00:08:59,683 was to let my father go. 189 00:08:59,783 --> 00:09:02,463 (uneasy music) 190 00:09:05,343 --> 00:09:06,883 - [Interviewer] Surely it must have hurt you 191 00:09:06,983 --> 00:09:10,743 to have your daughter get out of your management contract? 192 00:09:12,463 --> 00:09:17,463 - Well, there was a feeling that came over me. It did hurt. 193 00:09:18,823 --> 00:09:22,523 But when they get a certain age, there's no need to worry 194 00:09:22,623 --> 00:09:25,323 about nothing 'cause you've done your job, 195 00:09:25,423 --> 00:09:29,723 and they make their own decisions, whether it's bad or good 196 00:09:29,823 --> 00:09:32,403 and when they need help in their father, 197 00:09:32,503 --> 00:09:34,503 I will come right back. 198 00:09:38,663 --> 00:09:42,242 - I had to make it happen at that point, you know? 199 00:09:42,342 --> 00:09:47,082 Like I hadn't made the wrong decision, 200 00:09:47,182 --> 00:09:49,182 the wrong choice. 201 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:58,662 - [Crew Member] Jessica Davenport, interview take one. Mark. 202 00:10:00,102 --> 00:10:03,522 - I used to work for Mr. Jackson, at his production office, 203 00:10:03,622 --> 00:10:06,942 when he managed the brothers, as well as Janet. 204 00:10:08,062 --> 00:10:11,562 I went to the office, the doors were locked, 205 00:10:11,662 --> 00:10:14,682 and we were like oh, okay. 206 00:10:14,782 --> 00:10:17,882 Mr. Jackson said he was no longer the manager, 207 00:10:17,982 --> 00:10:19,982 no longer in business. 208 00:10:21,222 --> 00:10:25,642 I remember Janet being a little frustrated at that time. 209 00:10:25,742 --> 00:10:27,742 Her heart was somewhere else. 210 00:10:28,861 --> 00:10:31,461 (gentle music) 211 00:10:34,061 --> 00:10:38,861 Janet never really got a chance to meet the real Joseph. 212 00:10:40,541 --> 00:10:42,921 You know he was funny, he was hilarious, 213 00:10:43,021 --> 00:10:46,641 but he knew that he had to be strict 214 00:10:46,741 --> 00:10:49,261 for the goal that he had for the family. 215 00:10:50,861 --> 00:10:54,461 It's sad. He gave up his fatherhood. 216 00:10:57,621 --> 00:10:59,841 - We were together 10 years ago. 217 00:10:59,941 --> 00:11:02,041 - Yeah. 10 years. 218 00:11:02,141 --> 00:11:04,121 You're looking good, you look real good. 219 00:11:04,221 --> 00:11:06,661 - Thank you. Good to see you. 220 00:11:08,941 --> 00:11:12,601 - I called the house, and he said the company is no longer. 221 00:11:12,701 --> 00:11:17,761 And he said, you know, "I want you to go on and be with Janet. 222 00:11:17,861 --> 00:11:20,881 I give you permission to go on and work with her 223 00:11:20,981 --> 00:11:22,981 and take care of her." 224 00:11:28,060 --> 00:11:31,420 So, I started working for Janet when she was about 17. 225 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:35,120 - Janet is one of the few people in the family 226 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:38,040 that would stand up to my pop, you know. 227 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:39,240 Oh yeah, she's tough. 228 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:43,200 She ain't gonna let anybody say anything to her. 229 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:47,600 My father admired her for being that way I think as well, 230 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:50,820 you know, because she's always been a strong individual. 231 00:11:52,020 --> 00:11:55,340 (rotary phone rattling) 232 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:59,220 - [Janet] I got on the phone with Jimmy and Terry 233 00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:02,700 and that's when it all began. 234 00:12:04,820 --> 00:12:06,520 - [Crew Member] Jimmy Jam, interview take one. 235 00:12:06,620 --> 00:12:08,680 (clapboard claps) - Aaah. 236 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:11,160 - [Crew Member] Terry Lewis' interview take one. 237 00:12:11,260 --> 00:12:16,260 (crowd cheering) (upbeat music) 238 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:19,480 - So, Terry and I were in a band called The Time 239 00:12:19,580 --> 00:12:23,040 and we became the opening act for Prince on tour. 240 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:24,999 My first awaRenéss of Janet Jackson was, 241 00:12:25,099 --> 00:12:28,019 her and her mom came to our show in Long Beach. 242 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:32,158 At the end of our show, 243 00:12:32,259 --> 00:12:34,259 instead of coming out and taking a bow, 244 00:12:36,419 --> 00:12:38,999 we would come out and basically go "Huh!" 245 00:12:39,099 --> 00:12:41,099 and then grab our dicks, right? 246 00:12:41,699 --> 00:12:42,839 Sorry, this is stupid. 247 00:12:42,939 --> 00:12:43,999 ♪ What time is it ♪ 248 00:12:44,099 --> 00:12:45,439 We were like, "Wow, should we do it?" 249 00:12:45,539 --> 00:12:48,879 'Cause that's Janet and her mom are sitting front row. 250 00:12:48,979 --> 00:12:49,839 And of course, we were ignorant, 251 00:12:49,939 --> 00:12:51,939 so we did it like extra hard that night. 252 00:12:53,779 --> 00:12:54,519 (crowd cheering) 253 00:12:54,619 --> 00:12:56,599 - [Prince] See you later. Good night. 254 00:12:56,699 --> 00:12:59,519 - Afterwards, we met Janet backstage. 255 00:12:59,619 --> 00:13:01,859 That was the way we kind of all got together. 256 00:13:04,779 --> 00:13:08,559 - We had her come to Minneapolis and we had an idea, 257 00:13:08,659 --> 00:13:10,319 that we could produce Janet in a way 258 00:13:10,419 --> 00:13:12,359 that she hadn't been produced before. 259 00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:15,919 Janet had way more attitude and feistiness in her 260 00:13:16,019 --> 00:13:19,359 than what we had previously heard from the other albums. 261 00:13:19,459 --> 00:13:21,759 - It was apparent that nobody had really asked her opinion 262 00:13:21,859 --> 00:13:23,838 about what she wanted to sing about. 263 00:13:23,938 --> 00:13:27,278 We wanted her to make her record, 264 00:13:27,378 --> 00:13:29,958 and I think it was like a revelation to her. 265 00:13:30,058 --> 00:13:32,598 (dramatic music) 266 00:13:32,698 --> 00:13:35,158 The "Control" album was really about what was happening 267 00:13:35,258 --> 00:13:37,558 in her life at that moment 268 00:13:37,658 --> 00:13:39,658 and taking control of her life. 269 00:13:40,178 --> 00:13:41,318 So, she did. 270 00:13:41,418 --> 00:13:43,478 She wanted the best lighting designers, 271 00:13:43,578 --> 00:13:45,698 wardrobe stylists, choreographers. 272 00:13:46,818 --> 00:13:49,718 And I remember she called Paula Abdul herself, 273 00:13:49,818 --> 00:13:51,878 and the rest is history. 274 00:13:51,978 --> 00:13:53,798 - [Commentator] It's two minutes 57 seconds left 275 00:13:53,898 --> 00:13:55,898 of the opening period. 276 00:13:56,538 --> 00:13:58,998 - I first got involved with the Jackson family 277 00:13:59,098 --> 00:14:01,438 when I was the choreographer of the Laker Girls. 278 00:14:01,538 --> 00:14:03,598 (crowd cheering) 279 00:14:03,698 --> 00:14:07,078 I was noticed by the Jackson brothers 280 00:14:07,178 --> 00:14:09,918 and the brothers told me Janet wanted to meet with me. 281 00:14:10,018 --> 00:14:12,198 I felt like I'm gonna be able to nurture her 282 00:14:12,298 --> 00:14:14,598 and just take care of her. 283 00:14:14,698 --> 00:14:16,838 I just loved her off the bat. 284 00:14:16,938 --> 00:14:18,238 I'll never forget coming over 285 00:14:18,338 --> 00:14:20,798 to the family house on Havenhurst. 286 00:14:20,898 --> 00:14:23,717 There would be Michael bringing in Bubbles. 287 00:14:23,817 --> 00:14:27,757 And I was in love with Bubbles, Janet wasn't. (chuckles) 288 00:14:27,857 --> 00:14:31,157 And her bedroom was beautiful, this white canopy bed 289 00:14:31,257 --> 00:14:33,157 and white shag carpeting. 290 00:14:33,257 --> 00:14:35,197 And she'd go, "He stinks, get him out." 291 00:14:35,297 --> 00:14:38,077 And I'd be laughing and my laugh is alarming 292 00:14:38,177 --> 00:14:41,197 it's like (braying), like that, I can't help it. 293 00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:42,917 And she's going, "Oh God, oh no." 294 00:14:43,017 --> 00:14:45,797 And it always resulted in me peeing in my pants. 295 00:14:45,897 --> 00:14:47,277 And I'm not gonna lie, it happened. 296 00:14:47,377 --> 00:14:50,597 Like I would ruin her white shag carpeting in her bedroom, 297 00:14:50,697 --> 00:14:52,737 from laughing so hard, okay? 298 00:14:57,017 --> 00:15:01,197 Hold one, two, three, four, brush five, brush six, 299 00:15:01,297 --> 00:15:03,517 pull seven, hip eight, heels one. 300 00:15:03,617 --> 00:15:05,077 When I started working with Janet, 301 00:15:05,177 --> 00:15:08,637 she was extremely shy and soft spoken. 302 00:15:08,737 --> 00:15:11,337 Seven and eight, pull it in. 303 00:15:12,177 --> 00:15:13,717 Cool, let's take it from the top. 304 00:15:13,817 --> 00:15:14,797 She shed some light 305 00:15:14,897 --> 00:15:18,956 into what was going on with her father, with James. 306 00:15:19,057 --> 00:15:21,056 - Sorry, Paula. 307 00:15:21,656 --> 00:15:24,596 - It wasn't about just teaching choreography. 308 00:15:24,696 --> 00:15:27,996 It was up to me to kind of bring her out of her shell. 309 00:15:28,096 --> 00:15:29,916 Yeah what you want to do though is pull it over 310 00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:30,916 so you're leaning over. 311 00:15:31,016 --> 00:15:32,716 (Janet laughs) 312 00:15:32,816 --> 00:15:37,816 It was so important for me because it was important for her. 313 00:15:38,896 --> 00:15:39,676 Sorry. 314 00:15:39,776 --> 00:15:42,616 (emotional music) 315 00:15:47,096 --> 00:15:49,156 - She was out of her comfort zone 316 00:15:49,256 --> 00:15:51,356 and it got her excited about it. 317 00:15:51,456 --> 00:15:54,916 So, the Janet that Terry and I myself got, 318 00:15:55,016 --> 00:15:56,236 was a different Janet. 319 00:15:56,336 --> 00:15:58,116 - [Paula] And five and six, pull seven, and eight, and one, and two- 320 00:15:58,216 --> 00:15:58,916 - Sorry. 321 00:15:59,016 --> 00:16:01,836 - It was important that this album showed her 322 00:16:01,936 --> 00:16:04,716 as a young woman who is taking the reins. 323 00:16:04,816 --> 00:16:09,676 - Four, five, six, nice and clean. And one and over two. 324 00:16:09,776 --> 00:16:13,236 - It was me coming into my adulthood 325 00:16:13,336 --> 00:16:16,596 and knowing that out of all the kids in the world, 326 00:16:16,696 --> 00:16:18,795 I know I'm not alone, 327 00:16:18,895 --> 00:16:23,035 so why not put this down with your music. 328 00:16:23,135 --> 00:16:25,315 - Circle in, left foot, one hit two, up... 329 00:16:25,415 --> 00:16:28,455 And you saw the confidence build and build and build. 330 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,655 Oh, you went on! 331 00:16:33,375 --> 00:16:36,075 - Those of us who have been Jackson 5 fans, 332 00:16:36,175 --> 00:16:37,995 we've witnessed Janet growing up. 333 00:16:38,095 --> 00:16:40,235 - [Man] Right here we go, settle in, lock it up. 334 00:16:40,335 --> 00:16:43,375 Very quiet please. Roll camera and sound please. 335 00:16:44,255 --> 00:16:45,115 - [Presenter] It is so refreshing 336 00:16:45,215 --> 00:16:47,755 to see the new video, "Control". 337 00:16:47,855 --> 00:16:49,855 Let's check out Miss Janet Jackson. 338 00:16:51,815 --> 00:16:52,675 - [Crew Member] Action! 339 00:16:52,775 --> 00:16:54,774 - This is a story about control. 340 00:16:55,774 --> 00:16:58,595 My control. (crowd cheering) 341 00:16:58,695 --> 00:17:03,115 Control of what I say, and control of what I do. 342 00:17:03,215 --> 00:17:05,835 And this time I'm gonna do it my way. 343 00:17:05,935 --> 00:17:08,155 (crowd cheering) 344 00:17:08,255 --> 00:17:10,035 - [Paula] The most important thing was for her 345 00:17:10,135 --> 00:17:12,995 to take that stage and own it. 346 00:17:13,095 --> 00:17:15,974 (energetic music) 347 00:17:17,574 --> 00:17:22,574 ♪ When I was 17 I did what people told me ♪ 348 00:17:25,334 --> 00:17:30,334 ♪ Did what my father said and let my mother mould me ♪ 349 00:17:30,854 --> 00:17:32,274 ♪ But that was long ago ♪ 350 00:17:32,374 --> 00:17:36,514 ♪ I'm in control, never gonna stop ♪ 351 00:17:36,614 --> 00:17:40,634 ♪ Control to get what I want ♪ 352 00:17:40,734 --> 00:17:44,514 ♪ Control, I like to have a lot ♪ 353 00:17:44,614 --> 00:17:48,634 ♪ Control, now I'm all grown up ♪ 354 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,454 (crowd cheering) 355 00:17:55,614 --> 00:17:57,474 - [Anchor] The youngest member of the Jackson family 356 00:17:57,574 --> 00:17:58,834 has certainly grown up. 357 00:17:58,934 --> 00:18:00,634 - [Reporter] A pop star with the world at her feet. 358 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:01,474 - [Reporter] She had done it 359 00:18:01,574 --> 00:18:03,754 without the help of her famous brothers. 360 00:18:03,854 --> 00:18:07,434 ♪ Got my own mind ♪ 361 00:18:07,534 --> 00:18:10,834 ♪ I want to make my own decisions ♪ 362 00:18:10,934 --> 00:18:15,673 ♪ When it has to do with my life, my life ♪ 363 00:18:15,773 --> 00:18:17,953 ♪ I wanna be the one in control ♪ 364 00:18:18,053 --> 00:18:20,713 - It really introduced Janet Jackson 365 00:18:20,813 --> 00:18:22,793 as a force to be reckoned with. 366 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,813 (audience cheers) 367 00:18:30,043 --> 00:18:32,503 - Nominated for Album of The Year, 368 00:18:32,603 --> 00:18:35,183 ladies and gentlemen, Janet Jackson. 369 00:18:35,283 --> 00:18:36,183 (audience cheers) 370 00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:38,283 - Give me a beat. 371 00:18:38,723 --> 00:18:39,903 (energetic music) 372 00:18:40,003 --> 00:18:42,783 - "Control" was not only a saving grace, 373 00:18:42,883 --> 00:18:46,463 but for her it was a rights passage into adulthood. 374 00:18:46,563 --> 00:18:48,223 And that was the master stroke. 375 00:18:48,323 --> 00:18:51,843 Janet Jackson having it her way, on her terms. 376 00:18:53,363 --> 00:18:56,983 ♪ Used to be a time when you would pamper me ♪ 377 00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:59,383 ♪ Used to brag about it all the time ♪ 378 00:18:59,483 --> 00:19:01,982 - I have such a connection with "Control", 379 00:19:02,082 --> 00:19:05,422 because it was prior to me being a known artist. 380 00:19:05,522 --> 00:19:09,422 I was in that zone of like, one day I'm going to do this. 381 00:19:09,522 --> 00:19:13,222 ♪ What have you done for me lately ♪ 382 00:19:13,322 --> 00:19:15,382 - "What have you done for me lately?" 383 00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:18,382 my girlfriends used to say that to me. (laughs). 384 00:19:18,482 --> 00:19:20,782 I used to get mad at my little sister, 385 00:19:20,882 --> 00:19:24,342 giving these young ladies such, this attitude. 386 00:19:24,442 --> 00:19:28,422 ♪ To the bridge ♪ 387 00:19:28,522 --> 00:19:32,222 ♪ I never ask for more than I deserve ♪ 388 00:19:32,322 --> 00:19:34,662 - "Control" may be all the way back from the '80s, 389 00:19:34,762 --> 00:19:37,302 but like, when I was 16 years old, 390 00:19:37,402 --> 00:19:38,702 and trying to figure out this industry 391 00:19:38,802 --> 00:19:40,502 and figure out my life, as a woman, 392 00:19:40,602 --> 00:19:43,642 and wanting to take control, it still resonates. 393 00:19:46,202 --> 00:19:51,122 - You ain't done nothing for me, I'm out of here. I'm gone. 394 00:19:52,002 --> 00:19:54,922 (audience cheers) 395 00:19:57,002 --> 00:19:58,022 - Last night in Los Angeles, 396 00:19:58,122 --> 00:20:00,301 another member of the singing Jackson family, 397 00:20:00,401 --> 00:20:03,481 Janet Jackson officially came into her own. 398 00:20:05,361 --> 00:20:07,421 Janet Jackson's "Control" album 399 00:20:07,521 --> 00:20:09,541 passed the 2 million mark in sales recently. 400 00:20:09,641 --> 00:20:11,141 Her record company celebrated 401 00:20:11,241 --> 00:20:14,421 by throwing her a double platinum party. 402 00:20:14,521 --> 00:20:15,781 (energetic music) 403 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,981 - [Producer] This is an exciting night 404 00:20:17,081 --> 00:20:19,061 for your little sister, how do you feel? 405 00:20:19,161 --> 00:20:20,941 - I'm very proud of her, the whole family is. 406 00:20:21,041 --> 00:20:23,341 - She's come a long way, she's worked very hard 407 00:20:23,441 --> 00:20:25,380 and I think she really deserves it. 408 00:20:25,481 --> 00:20:26,421 - Thank you very much. 409 00:20:28,921 --> 00:20:30,821 - [Reporter] Did you expect anything like this? 410 00:20:30,921 --> 00:20:32,701 - I knew the album would be successful, 411 00:20:32,801 --> 00:20:37,581 but I didn't think it would have this much success. 412 00:20:37,681 --> 00:20:41,061 - And the winner is Janet Jackson! 413 00:20:41,161 --> 00:20:42,581 - Janet Jackson! 414 00:20:42,681 --> 00:20:44,221 - Janet Jackson! 415 00:20:44,321 --> 00:20:45,821 (audience cheers) 416 00:20:45,921 --> 00:20:47,981 - This means so much to me, thank you. 417 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:50,461 - She was on her own, 418 00:20:50,561 --> 00:20:52,701 and she was taking control of her life. 419 00:20:52,801 --> 00:20:54,981 (upbeat music) 420 00:20:55,081 --> 00:20:57,661 ♪ Oh you nasty boys ♪ 421 00:20:57,761 --> 00:20:59,800 - It was a time when Janet's career 422 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,300 and her personal life were gelling together. 423 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720 And she was comfortable with that. 424 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,060 René was one of the dancers. 425 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,060 They were like working buddies. 426 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,980 But then I found out they were actually, you know, 427 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 had a relationship. 428 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,060 - He was actually from the film industry, 429 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,460 that's what his family did for a living. 430 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,880 - [René] Here Jan, watch. Film, film a second. 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,020 ♪ Don't you ever leave ♪ 432 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,120 See René, you should be over here! 433 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,260 I needed to just be free of being with somebody 434 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:40,260 that did drugs and all of that. 435 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,100 (dog barks) 436 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,100 I needed it. I needed a lift. 437 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,360 - [René] Watch out, Jan, it's gonna close in on you! 438 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,620 - René was funny, we just always had fun together, 439 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840 and he was very, very charming. 440 00:21:57,239 --> 00:21:58,139 (Janet laughing) 441 00:21:58,239 --> 00:22:01,459 (man laughing) 442 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:02,319 - [Producer] Tell us a little bit 443 00:22:02,399 --> 00:22:04,939 about how you and Janet met. 444 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:07,039 - Ah, it's interesting. 445 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,539 I was doing a film, a real silly film. 446 00:22:11,639 --> 00:22:13,719 Okay wait, I'm gonna try something nice, yeah? 447 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:15,379 - [Janet] What are you doing? 448 00:22:15,479 --> 00:22:17,819 - [René] Slow reveal. Slow reveal. 449 00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:20,459 And a friend called one night and said, 450 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,619 "Do you want to come over and meet Janet Jackson?" 451 00:22:22,719 --> 00:22:24,919 And we were like, "Yeah sure, we'd love to." 452 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:28,259 Janet? 453 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,739 So, we went over to the house on Havenhurst, 454 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:31,739 where Michael was living, 455 00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:35,039 and LaToya and the parents at the time, and we met her. 456 00:22:36,199 --> 00:22:38,219 Who's that? 457 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:40,319 - Actress. 458 00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:41,699 Come here. 459 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:45,259 - She was super shy, but once you get to know her, 460 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,419 she does open up to, not to a lot of people, but she does. 461 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:52,359 (waves murmuring) 462 00:22:54,878 --> 00:22:56,878 Oh my God! Who is that? 463 00:22:57,278 --> 00:22:59,278 We became really good friends, 464 00:23:00,278 --> 00:23:02,278 and it just continued from there. 465 00:23:03,518 --> 00:23:06,118 (upbeat music) 466 00:23:06,958 --> 00:23:09,258 ♪ They said it wouldn't last ♪ 467 00:23:09,358 --> 00:23:11,498 ♪ We had to prove them wrong ♪ 468 00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,778 ♪ 'Cause I've learned in the past ♪ 469 00:23:13,878 --> 00:23:18,478 ♪ That love would never do without you ♪ 470 00:23:20,598 --> 00:23:24,178 - Janet is very private, in a lot of ways. 471 00:23:24,278 --> 00:23:24,978 And she was very private 472 00:23:25,078 --> 00:23:28,498 especially with her life, with René. 473 00:23:28,598 --> 00:23:33,178 There's always an underlying situation that exists, 474 00:23:33,278 --> 00:23:34,738 that you know nothing about. 475 00:23:34,838 --> 00:23:39,378 But she seemed to be happy to me, she really did. 476 00:23:39,478 --> 00:23:42,658 ♪ I've got the feeling it's right ♪ 477 00:23:42,758 --> 00:23:45,738 - [Rebbie] René helped Janet grow in to her own 478 00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:47,818 and flourish as an artist. 479 00:23:47,918 --> 00:23:50,518 (upbeat music) 480 00:23:54,477 --> 00:23:56,177 - [René] Do that same smile. 481 00:23:56,277 --> 00:23:56,977 - Why? 482 00:23:57,077 --> 00:23:58,977 - [René] Because I'm shooting it in different light. 483 00:23:59,077 --> 00:24:00,817 Do that same smile. 484 00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:03,057 - They just had a, how do you say? 485 00:24:03,157 --> 00:24:05,857 A focus and aspirations of something 486 00:24:05,957 --> 00:24:07,697 that they wanted to accomplish. 487 00:24:07,797 --> 00:24:08,737 - So stupid. 488 00:24:08,837 --> 00:24:10,177 - [René] Look out towards the light. 489 00:24:10,277 --> 00:24:11,977 - Come on! 490 00:24:12,077 --> 00:24:15,977 ♪ We can make it tonight ♪ 491 00:24:16,077 --> 00:24:18,977 ♪ If you give me a sign ♪ 492 00:24:19,077 --> 00:24:22,657 ♪ And I'll be by your side ♪ 493 00:24:22,757 --> 00:24:25,217 ♪ Yeah ♪ 494 00:24:56,236 --> 00:25:00,036 - I was surprised. I was blindsided. 495 00:25:01,916 --> 00:25:06,216 I mean, the next thing I find out she was married. Yeah. 496 00:25:07,236 --> 00:25:08,536 - Mm-hmm. 497 00:25:08,636 --> 00:25:13,636 (gentle music) (rain tapping) 498 00:25:21,436 --> 00:25:23,436 - We were out on the beach. 499 00:25:25,036 --> 00:25:27,196 It was raining like crazy. 500 00:25:30,596 --> 00:25:32,596 And that's when he asked me to marry him. 501 00:25:40,156 --> 00:25:41,536 - [Producer] When he proposed to you, 502 00:25:41,636 --> 00:25:44,036 did it feel different from James? 503 00:25:44,956 --> 00:25:47,656 - James never proposed to me, 504 00:25:47,756 --> 00:25:50,015 he never gave me a ring or anything like that, 505 00:25:50,115 --> 00:25:52,115 so it was different. 506 00:25:53,195 --> 00:25:54,735 - [Producer] Did it feel like this was it? 507 00:25:54,835 --> 00:25:56,835 You were gonna be together forever? 508 00:25:57,915 --> 00:25:59,915 - Mm-hmm. 509 00:26:00,915 --> 00:26:02,915 I wanted it to be it. 510 00:26:04,035 --> 00:26:06,515 But I thought that every time. 511 00:26:08,315 --> 00:26:11,335 (rain tapping) 512 00:26:11,435 --> 00:26:13,375 - Jimmy and I were talking about the outro, 513 00:26:13,475 --> 00:26:17,575 maybe the outro should echo the intro. 514 00:26:17,675 --> 00:26:20,155 - I agree, that might be kind of cool. 515 00:26:20,995 --> 00:26:25,415 - Janet and I have been friends for 35 years. 516 00:26:25,515 --> 00:26:27,455 You know, since "Control", when I first met her, 517 00:26:27,555 --> 00:26:28,935 began interviewing her. 518 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:31,955 I've gone on tours with her, I wrote a book with Janet. 519 00:26:32,835 --> 00:26:34,815 But what I've written here is, 520 00:26:34,915 --> 00:26:39,915 "The confusion lifts, the contradictions melt." 521 00:26:40,995 --> 00:26:43,495 "Control" changed the whole name of the game. 522 00:26:43,595 --> 00:26:45,975 I mean she became a pop star. 523 00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:48,374 - That's very pretty, David. 524 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:51,034 - But even with all the success of "Control", 525 00:26:52,314 --> 00:26:53,894 I don't think she ever was really able 526 00:26:53,994 --> 00:26:57,014 to escape Michael's shadow. 527 00:26:57,114 --> 00:27:00,434 (gentle, anxious music) 528 00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:09,174 - Okay, mother, you guys want me to get you 529 00:27:09,274 --> 00:27:10,294 something in Milan? 530 00:27:10,394 --> 00:27:13,194 They booked me the whole time I'm there in Milan. 531 00:27:14,354 --> 00:27:15,814 - [René] From the time you get there to- 532 00:27:15,914 --> 00:27:16,854 - Okay, we arrive there 12:05. 533 00:27:16,954 --> 00:27:18,294 - [René] What time do we have to be in Munich? 534 00:27:18,394 --> 00:27:19,094 Don't we have time- 535 00:27:19,194 --> 00:27:20,054 - I have to be- 536 00:27:20,154 --> 00:27:23,094 (group talking over each other) 537 00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:24,734 - [René] Munich is the last stop. 538 00:27:24,834 --> 00:27:26,894 - No, it isn't, London is. If we do go. 539 00:27:26,994 --> 00:27:29,614 - [René] Oh. We are in Barcelona. 540 00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:32,314 (upbeat music) 541 00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:34,894 Rome, Italy. 542 00:27:34,994 --> 00:27:35,814 - Hi. 543 00:27:35,914 --> 00:27:38,914 (people chattering) 544 00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:41,854 - [David] For any artist like Janet, 545 00:27:41,954 --> 00:27:46,493 who's had this hit album, a publicity tour is a big, big deal. 546 00:27:46,593 --> 00:27:49,493 It's a chance to establish her identity. 547 00:27:49,593 --> 00:27:51,893 - You can zoom in a little bit, if you want. 548 00:27:51,993 --> 00:27:55,913 - But in Janet's case, it was all about Michael. 549 00:27:57,313 --> 00:27:58,973 - Janet, you're in the studio finally. 550 00:27:59,073 --> 00:28:00,053 And, you know, I'm really glad to have you. 551 00:28:00,153 --> 00:28:01,573 Where are you gonna take it from here? 552 00:28:01,673 --> 00:28:04,013 Are you thinking about maybe doing something live on stage? 553 00:28:04,113 --> 00:28:07,013 - Well, probably next year I'll start concert touring, 554 00:28:07,113 --> 00:28:08,773 hopefully in the summer, that's what we want to do, 555 00:28:08,873 --> 00:28:10,573 and hopefully, I'll be able to come over here. 556 00:28:10,673 --> 00:28:13,353 - One last question. Can I ask something about Michael? 557 00:28:14,553 --> 00:28:16,453 About the oxygen tank? 558 00:28:16,553 --> 00:28:19,293 - Listen, they say he has it at home, I haven't seen it yet. 559 00:28:19,393 --> 00:28:22,133 So, I don't know about that oxygen tank. 560 00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:23,013 - That's all I want to know. 561 00:28:23,113 --> 00:28:24,373 (uneasy music) 562 00:28:24,473 --> 00:28:26,573 - Every press opportunity that she had, 563 00:28:26,673 --> 00:28:29,373 it was always about Michael Jackson's little sister, 564 00:28:29,473 --> 00:28:30,973 or how's your big brother? 565 00:28:31,073 --> 00:28:32,453 - [Interviewer] What is he doing right now? 566 00:28:32,553 --> 00:28:34,853 - Right now he's in the studio recording his album. 567 00:28:34,953 --> 00:28:37,413 - [Producer] You and Michael look like twins. 568 00:28:37,513 --> 00:28:38,733 - You look like Michael Jackson. 569 00:28:38,833 --> 00:28:41,673 (audience cheers) 570 00:28:43,152 --> 00:28:44,172 - It was inevitable, I guess. 571 00:28:44,272 --> 00:28:47,372 But she never really seemed be able to escape it 572 00:28:47,472 --> 00:28:49,972 even with all the success she was having. 573 00:28:50,072 --> 00:28:51,652 - I love Michael! I love you! 574 00:28:51,752 --> 00:28:52,452 - [Janet] Thank you. 575 00:28:52,552 --> 00:28:54,652 - I want to ask you a question, is Michael baptised? 576 00:28:54,752 --> 00:28:55,892 - [Janet] Yes. 577 00:28:55,992 --> 00:28:57,572 - [Man] Sorry, we got to go now. 578 00:28:57,672 --> 00:29:02,672 (uneasy music) (crowd cheering) 579 00:29:11,472 --> 00:29:13,252 - I'm thankful, I really am, 580 00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:16,932 because it has opened up a great deal of doors for me, 581 00:29:17,032 --> 00:29:17,772 having that name, 582 00:29:17,872 --> 00:29:21,492 and at the same time, there's a great deal of scrutiny 583 00:29:21,592 --> 00:29:24,452 that comes with having that last name. 584 00:29:24,552 --> 00:29:26,552 A certain expectation. 585 00:29:27,272 --> 00:29:28,812 I wanted my own identity, 586 00:29:28,912 --> 00:29:33,212 I didn't want people to pick up this body of music 587 00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,332 because of my last name. 588 00:29:35,432 --> 00:29:37,892 And I remember in the past journalists asking me 589 00:29:37,992 --> 00:29:40,611 about, you know, success of an album, 590 00:29:40,711 --> 00:29:42,491 how are you gonna follow it up. 591 00:29:42,591 --> 00:29:45,531 But it was really always about doing what was in my heart 592 00:29:45,631 --> 00:29:47,631 what I felt to do. 593 00:29:52,431 --> 00:29:54,411 - [René] It's Minneapolis at dusk. 594 00:29:54,511 --> 00:29:56,891 I'm tellin' ya I hope someday we'll look back at this tape 595 00:29:56,991 --> 00:30:01,491 and think about all the ifs that became a reality. 596 00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:02,811 - Well, hopefully what comes out of it 597 00:30:02,911 --> 00:30:05,411 is a very successful album. 598 00:30:05,511 --> 00:30:08,051 I remember when Janet came to Minneapolis 599 00:30:08,151 --> 00:30:10,531 to start what became "Rhythm Nation", 600 00:30:10,631 --> 00:30:12,691 because there was no "Rhythm Nation" idea 601 00:30:12,791 --> 00:30:14,611 when she first came to Minneapolis. 602 00:30:14,711 --> 00:30:18,251 Hello and welcome to Flyte Tyme's old studios. 603 00:30:18,351 --> 00:30:22,051 This is going to be a history making video 604 00:30:22,151 --> 00:30:25,630 to document the recording of the "Rhythm Nation" LP. 605 00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:29,491 - I guess there was pressure, 606 00:30:29,591 --> 00:30:31,891 because after you sell 6 million records, 607 00:30:31,991 --> 00:30:34,731 now everybody wants to hear everything. 608 00:30:34,831 --> 00:30:37,011 Everybody wants to have a piece 609 00:30:37,111 --> 00:30:39,270 of what's going on creatively. 610 00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,530 - It's a lot of pressure, it's a lot of work. 611 00:30:43,630 --> 00:30:46,490 And either you can handle it or you can't. 612 00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:49,990 It does affect you, and what you do with that 613 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:54,230 really is important. 614 00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:58,730 - We had disagreements. 615 00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:00,450 If she disagreed with something, 616 00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:01,970 she was stubborn, I will say that. 617 00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:03,450 Janet was very stubborn, 618 00:31:03,550 --> 00:31:07,730 but she would still attempt to do something. 619 00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:10,470 You know how you sang the first one, the first vocal? 620 00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:13,730 - Yeah. - Like when you first went in there, 621 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:17,290 like you had some, a little bit of oomph happenin' and stuff? 622 00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:18,130 - [Janet] Yeah. 623 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:20,870 - That's what I need, more of that kind of thing, okay? 624 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:24,650 Okay, are you there? 625 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:25,970 - [Janet] Yeah. 626 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:28,070 - Okay, here we go. 627 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:32,470 (Janet sings) 628 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:35,610 First verse. 629 00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:36,450 - [Janet] Is that the front page? 630 00:31:36,550 --> 00:31:37,409 - Yeah. 631 00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:38,449 - [Janet] Okay. 632 00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:41,229 (upbeat music) 633 00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:48,609 ♪ Now that you are older and you begin to see ♪ 634 00:31:48,709 --> 00:31:49,889 - Ehhh. 635 00:31:49,989 --> 00:31:52,249 - [Janet] What is it? What does it need? 636 00:31:52,349 --> 00:31:54,289 - Energy, or something, attitude, or something. 637 00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:55,609 - [Janet] All right, let's just try it again. 638 00:31:55,709 --> 00:31:56,529 - [Jimmy] Here we go. 639 00:31:56,629 --> 00:31:58,689 (upbeat music) 640 00:31:58,789 --> 00:32:03,249 ♪ As a child I missed a lot of love I never had ♪ 641 00:32:03,349 --> 00:32:05,669 What are you laughing about? 642 00:32:06,749 --> 00:32:10,249 - Nothing, just you're fine. Doing fine. 643 00:32:10,349 --> 00:32:12,129 - [Janet] No, but, what, tell me what's wrong, Jimmy. 644 00:32:12,229 --> 00:32:12,969 - Nothin'. 645 00:32:13,069 --> 00:32:14,609 - [Janet] You're sitting there laughing, 646 00:32:14,709 --> 00:32:15,649 and I'm trying to get this right. 647 00:32:15,749 --> 00:32:18,369 - But you're doing fine, don't be paying no attention to us. 648 00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:20,889 - I can't, I don't have to take this shit no more. 649 00:32:20,989 --> 00:32:23,169 (Jimmy laughing) 650 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:24,729 - [Janet] You got to tell me something 'cause it's like 651 00:32:24,829 --> 00:32:26,769 I keep singing this over and over and 652 00:32:26,869 --> 00:32:27,969 you're not telling me - [Jimmy] There's no energy. 653 00:32:28,069 --> 00:32:28,809 - [Janet] what I need. 654 00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:31,769 - Energy! You know how you, you know how to sing. 655 00:32:31,869 --> 00:32:33,869 You know, put the thing on it. 656 00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,088 No man, René, cool that off. 657 00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,188 - [René] You want me to cut it? 658 00:32:39,788 --> 00:32:40,528 Okay. 659 00:32:40,628 --> 00:32:42,408 - You know what I'm talking about I mean, you know, just some- 660 00:32:42,508 --> 00:32:43,768 - [Janet] I've been singing it all night 661 00:32:43,868 --> 00:32:45,688 and you keep saying "uh-uh, it's nothin'" 662 00:32:45,788 --> 00:32:47,208 I'm sick of that. - There's no energy. 663 00:32:47,308 --> 00:32:48,648 You can hear this shit the way it sounds, 664 00:32:48,748 --> 00:32:51,088 there ain't no energy on the song. 665 00:32:51,188 --> 00:32:51,968 (door bangs) 666 00:32:52,068 --> 00:32:54,128 It's got to have some energy happening. 667 00:32:54,228 --> 00:32:56,968 You're the singer, all you got to do is sing. 668 00:32:57,068 --> 00:32:58,248 We're trying to make a record, 669 00:32:58,348 --> 00:33:00,848 we're trying to follow up a fucking big album. 670 00:33:00,948 --> 00:33:03,728 - No, I don't need this. I don't need you guys' attitude. 671 00:33:03,828 --> 00:33:05,688 I mean, this has just gone too far. 672 00:33:05,788 --> 00:33:07,128 I'm going home. I'm leaving tomorrow. 673 00:33:07,228 --> 00:33:07,968 - [René] Janet. 674 00:33:08,068 --> 00:33:10,128 - [Janet] I'm sick... No, René, I'm sick of this. 675 00:33:10,228 --> 00:33:12,248 We finished, what, four, five songs. 676 00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:14,968 - [Janet] Yeah, but the thing is 677 00:33:15,068 --> 00:33:16,488 we can do that stuff and then- 678 00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:19,008 - [Janet] Well, I'm just going to tell them the truth. 679 00:33:19,108 --> 00:33:22,488 It's just not going right. It's not happening, that's all. 680 00:33:22,588 --> 00:33:25,848 (door closes) (tense music) 681 00:33:25,948 --> 00:33:27,948 Fuck. 682 00:33:31,597 --> 00:33:33,597 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy! 683 00:33:35,077 --> 00:33:38,097 (Jimmy laughing) 684 00:33:38,196 --> 00:33:39,017 - We didn't agree on everything, 685 00:33:39,117 --> 00:33:41,857 but we always came to an agreement, 686 00:33:41,955 --> 00:33:42,936 so that we were all happy. 687 00:33:43,037 --> 00:33:44,537 And I think that's the way I always looked at it. 688 00:33:44,637 --> 00:33:46,297 I never looked at it as an argument 689 00:33:46,396 --> 00:33:48,337 like we were trying to win an argument. 690 00:33:48,436 --> 00:33:50,735 - People don't hear the same things at the same times, 691 00:33:50,837 --> 00:33:53,137 but you know that's just part of the discovery. 692 00:33:53,235 --> 00:33:56,337 Just understanding, you know, the process. 693 00:33:56,436 --> 00:33:59,396 Praise God that Janet found the groove with us. 694 00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:03,776 - [Jimmy] Sing it. 695 00:34:03,877 --> 00:34:06,097 ♪ With music by our side ♪ 696 00:34:06,196 --> 00:34:08,017 ♪ Let's break the colour lines ♪ 697 00:34:08,117 --> 00:34:10,456 I love the creative process. 698 00:34:10,556 --> 00:34:11,295 There's a lot of people 699 00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:13,176 that think I just come into the studio 700 00:34:13,277 --> 00:34:16,176 and I sing a song, but I write. 701 00:34:16,277 --> 00:34:19,216 I write lyrics, I write melodies. 702 00:34:19,316 --> 00:34:21,614 - That just makes it a little more melodic. 703 00:34:21,716 --> 00:34:24,216 (humming) A little more positive sound. 704 00:34:24,316 --> 00:34:25,773 - Yeah. 705 00:34:25,876 --> 00:34:27,975 - This is really good. 706 00:34:28,076 --> 00:34:29,496 She's talking about race relations. 707 00:34:29,595 --> 00:34:33,694 She's talking about crime and drugs and lack of education. 708 00:34:33,795 --> 00:34:35,176 And that was not the kind of record 709 00:34:35,273 --> 00:34:37,273 that was on the pop charts at the time. 710 00:34:39,154 --> 00:34:40,416 (artillery shooting) 711 00:34:40,514 --> 00:34:43,435 (emotional music) 712 00:34:50,475 --> 00:34:52,935 - [Janet] There were things in the world that concerned me. 713 00:34:53,036 --> 00:34:55,295 Things that I wanted to say. 714 00:34:55,395 --> 00:34:58,255 - "Rhythm Nation" was a little bit of a risk. 715 00:34:58,355 --> 00:35:02,456 We knew that making a socially conscious album 716 00:35:02,554 --> 00:35:05,095 was probably not what the record company 717 00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:08,076 or anybody else was thinking we should probably be doing. 718 00:35:09,355 --> 00:35:11,095 So, we didn't tell them. 719 00:35:11,194 --> 00:35:12,935 (energetic music) 720 00:35:13,036 --> 00:35:15,176 ♪ With music by our side ♪ 721 00:35:15,273 --> 00:35:17,255 ♪ To break the colour lines ♪ 722 00:35:17,355 --> 00:35:19,336 ♪ Let's work together ♪ 723 00:35:19,435 --> 00:35:21,614 ♪ To improve our way of life ♪ 724 00:35:21,715 --> 00:35:23,773 ♪ Join voices in protest ♪ 725 00:35:23,873 --> 00:35:26,014 ♪ To social injustice ♪ 726 00:35:26,114 --> 00:35:29,014 ♪ A generation full of courage ♪ 727 00:35:29,114 --> 00:35:32,194 ♪ Come forth with me ♪ 728 00:35:35,353 --> 00:35:38,413 - I remember there was a big clamouring for her to tour 729 00:35:38,514 --> 00:35:40,175 and I remember her saying, 730 00:35:40,273 --> 00:35:42,654 "I don't feel like I have enough songs. 731 00:35:42,755 --> 00:35:46,095 I need to make more songs, and then I'll tour." 732 00:35:46,194 --> 00:35:48,853 And I said, okay, well the "Rhythm Nation" tour 733 00:35:48,953 --> 00:35:52,675 has to be the biggest tour ever, in history. 734 00:35:55,033 --> 00:35:57,953 (Big Ben striking) 735 00:35:59,835 --> 00:36:03,215 I never heard her say, "I want to beat Michael" 736 00:36:03,313 --> 00:36:06,175 like those words never ever happened. 737 00:36:06,273 --> 00:36:08,694 But the competition to me was more within herself 738 00:36:08,795 --> 00:36:10,795 to do the best that she could do. 739 00:36:11,595 --> 00:36:14,095 - [Reporter] Pop star Michael Jackson's nationwide tour 740 00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:16,395 begins at Wembley stadium today. 741 00:36:17,475 --> 00:36:20,292 - I remember when he was in London, I went to visit him. 742 00:36:20,394 --> 00:36:21,133 (crowd cheering) 743 00:36:21,234 --> 00:36:25,894 I saw so many of Mike's fans, from all over the world. 744 00:36:25,993 --> 00:36:28,853 (audience cheers) 745 00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:32,094 - When Janet goes to England and she sees Michael 746 00:36:32,194 --> 00:36:35,072 on the "Bad" tour, I don't think she had any idea 747 00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:40,533 it would be as spectacular as it was, 748 00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:42,633 and this blows her mind. 749 00:36:43,913 --> 00:36:46,653 (cameras clicking) 750 00:36:46,752 --> 00:36:49,394 - Seeing Michael definitely inspired Janet. 751 00:36:50,712 --> 00:36:53,533 She knew that she needed more, 752 00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:58,394 to really become, in her mind, what would be a real artist. 753 00:37:01,033 --> 00:37:03,493 - Janet Jackson is live in concert tonight. 754 00:37:03,594 --> 00:37:05,334 - Singer Janet Jackson has sold 8 million albums 755 00:37:05,434 --> 00:37:07,434 without ever performing in public. 756 00:37:12,273 --> 00:37:13,974 - This is my first tour. 757 00:37:14,072 --> 00:37:17,273 Everyone's been saying this is really a major tour. 758 00:37:18,193 --> 00:37:20,813 Especially for an artist going out for the first time, 759 00:37:20,911 --> 00:37:25,172 but I wanted it to be special for the audience. 760 00:37:25,273 --> 00:37:27,273 Ricardo, can you close the door? 761 00:37:28,911 --> 00:37:30,911 Oh, that's René (laughs). 762 00:37:35,112 --> 00:37:37,011 - I've been there from the beginning, 763 00:37:37,112 --> 00:37:40,533 so there's no one else that she can really trust 764 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:44,712 to make sure that her story, her philosophy comes across. 765 00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:47,133 Listen you guys, 766 00:37:47,233 --> 00:37:49,693 the very opening to this thing, the way it's gonna happen 767 00:37:49,792 --> 00:37:51,853 is someone will say, "Five, six, seven, eight." 768 00:37:51,953 --> 00:37:55,051 Or you'll hear the tapping or something, to set you off. 769 00:37:55,153 --> 00:37:58,153 And without music, everybody will hit this piece right here. 770 00:38:00,193 --> 00:38:01,493 - My name is Wayne Scott Lukas, 771 00:38:01,591 --> 00:38:03,591 I'm a celebrity fashion stylist. 772 00:38:04,591 --> 00:38:06,953 When I first met Janet, she was with René. 773 00:38:07,831 --> 00:38:12,653 And, you know, it was a magic relationship. 774 00:38:12,752 --> 00:38:14,331 - Okay, real quick, you guys, listen. 775 00:38:14,431 --> 00:38:18,652 So you'll hear the five, four, three, two, one, down 776 00:38:18,752 --> 00:38:20,952 - I thought it was this hand. 777 00:38:22,112 --> 00:38:24,452 It's this hand? Oh God. 778 00:38:24,551 --> 00:38:28,492 He is really an important collaborator. He's my best friend. 779 00:38:28,591 --> 00:38:31,850 I know that with him that everything will be fine, 780 00:38:31,952 --> 00:38:34,051 and I can trust him, and everything will get done 781 00:38:34,152 --> 00:38:36,152 the way it should be done. 782 00:38:36,711 --> 00:38:38,572 Oops. (laughs) 783 00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:42,252 - Woah. (indistinct) - I didn't mean to do that. 784 00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:44,850 - He was cute and he was handsome, 785 00:38:44,952 --> 00:38:48,211 but he had so much power off of her back, 786 00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:51,091 that you just didn't cross René. 787 00:38:51,191 --> 00:38:52,452 - The feeling we're gonna try to get 788 00:38:52,551 --> 00:38:54,492 is that everybody is actually breathing in unison, 789 00:38:54,591 --> 00:38:58,270 if you guys can understand that so it'll be like (exhales). 790 00:38:59,952 --> 00:39:01,292 - But when they were together, 791 00:39:01,392 --> 00:39:03,452 they were a fireball of creative, 792 00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:05,871 that's how talented they were as a team. 793 00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:09,770 - Janet can't be everywhere at the same time, 794 00:39:09,871 --> 00:39:11,492 so that's kind of where I fit in. 795 00:39:11,591 --> 00:39:13,251 I'm an extension of Janet. 796 00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:18,350 And bam. And then it goes, five, four, three, two, one. Ho. 797 00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:23,569 (emotional music) 798 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:25,411 - [Janet] The night before my opening night 799 00:39:25,511 --> 00:39:27,130 I had this dream. 800 00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:30,389 I went out on stage, did the first number, 801 00:39:31,389 --> 00:39:34,630 and I could hear three people applauding in the audience. 802 00:39:35,791 --> 00:39:37,791 No one had come to the show. 803 00:39:40,429 --> 00:39:43,569 The very next day there was a long line of cars 804 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:46,331 down the road and all I could see were headlights. 805 00:39:46,429 --> 00:39:48,411 - I drove about six hours here. 806 00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:51,211 - And I was wondering where are these people going? 807 00:39:51,310 --> 00:39:52,569 - [Crowd] We want Janet! 808 00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:53,429 - [Reporter] I'll tell you what, 809 00:39:53,511 --> 00:39:54,529 it's a heck of a scene down here, 810 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:56,889 we're really looking forward to the concert tonight. 811 00:39:56,989 --> 00:40:00,470 How you folks doing up there? You doing all right? 812 00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:04,251 - I've been waiting for this concert for a long time. 813 00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:07,770 - [Janet] At that moment I was just so thankful. 814 00:40:07,871 --> 00:40:12,868 - [Team] Rhythm Nation! 815 00:40:12,989 --> 00:40:15,929 - [Presenter] Are you ready for the one lady 816 00:40:16,029 --> 00:40:20,810 that has taken the nation by storm, with a positive message? 817 00:40:20,908 --> 00:40:22,408 'Cause you know what? 818 00:40:22,510 --> 00:40:26,770 She's not Michael Jackson's little sister anymore. 819 00:40:26,868 --> 00:40:27,609 (audience cheers) 820 00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:30,529 ♪ Five, four, three, two, one ♪ 821 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:33,470 (energetic music) 822 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:36,688 ♪ With music by our side ♪ 823 00:40:36,788 --> 00:40:39,050 ♪ To break the colour lines ♪ 824 00:40:39,148 --> 00:40:40,569 ♪ Let's work together ♪ 825 00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:43,130 ♪ To improve our way of life ♪ 826 00:40:43,228 --> 00:40:45,248 ♪ Join voices in protest ♪ 827 00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:47,810 ♪ To social injustice ♪ 828 00:40:47,908 --> 00:40:50,170 ♪ A generation full of courage ♪ 829 00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:52,090 ♪ Come forth with me ♪ 830 00:40:52,188 --> 00:40:53,288 ♪ People of the world today ♪ 831 00:40:53,389 --> 00:40:56,288 ♪ Are we looking for a better way of life ♪ - [Janet] Sing! 832 00:40:56,389 --> 00:41:00,328 ♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪ 833 00:41:00,429 --> 00:41:01,688 ♪ People of the world unite ♪ 834 00:41:01,788 --> 00:41:03,529 ♪ Strength in numbers we can get it right ♪ 835 00:41:03,630 --> 00:41:04,728 ♪ One time ♪ - [Janet] Sing it out! 836 00:41:04,828 --> 00:41:08,969 ♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪ 837 00:41:09,069 --> 00:41:10,769 ♪ This is the test ♪ 838 00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:13,809 ♪ No struggle no progress ♪ 839 00:41:13,908 --> 00:41:17,609 ♪ Lend a hand to help your brother do his best ♪ 840 00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:19,288 ♪ Things are getting worse ♪ 841 00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:22,167 ♪ We have to make them better ♪ 842 00:41:22,269 --> 00:41:23,648 ♪ It's time to give a damn ♪ 843 00:41:23,748 --> 00:41:26,248 ♪ Let's work together come on, now ♪ 844 00:41:26,349 --> 00:41:27,528 ♪ People of the world today ♪ 845 00:41:27,627 --> 00:41:30,408 ♪ Are we looking for a better way of life ♪ - [Janet] Sing! 846 00:41:30,508 --> 00:41:34,609 ♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪ 847 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:36,047 ♪ People of the world unite ♪ 848 00:41:36,148 --> 00:41:38,167 ♪ Strength in numbers we can get it right one time ♪ 849 00:41:38,269 --> 00:41:39,047 - [Janet] Sing it out! 850 00:41:39,148 --> 00:41:43,328 ♪ We are a part of the rhythm nation ♪ 851 00:41:43,429 --> 00:41:44,688 - [Reporter] And it was a big night 852 00:41:44,788 --> 00:41:46,127 for Janet Jackson last night, 853 00:41:46,228 --> 00:41:47,648 she picked up her first ever Grammy 854 00:41:47,748 --> 00:41:49,288 and became the first woman nominated 855 00:41:49,389 --> 00:41:52,167 for the prestigious Producer of the Year award. 856 00:41:52,269 --> 00:41:54,648 - It didn't feel like, oh my God like she's preaching us. 857 00:41:54,748 --> 00:41:56,368 It was dope. 858 00:41:56,469 --> 00:41:59,167 - The statement that she was making was powerful, 859 00:41:59,269 --> 00:42:02,809 so her influence is something that you can't escape. 860 00:42:02,908 --> 00:42:03,889 - Everybody was walking around 861 00:42:03,987 --> 00:42:05,987 dressed like that, imitating it. 862 00:42:07,228 --> 00:42:08,568 - It's like I'm an army of one 863 00:42:08,667 --> 00:42:11,728 and I'm marching through a whole 'nother battlefield. 864 00:42:11,828 --> 00:42:13,966 - She's a blueprint. 865 00:42:14,068 --> 00:42:16,087 ♪ Sing it people ♪ 866 00:42:16,188 --> 00:42:18,368 ♪ Sing it children ♪ 867 00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:23,306 ♪ Sing it if you want a better way of life ♪ 868 00:42:24,148 --> 00:42:26,987 (audience cheers) 869 00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:38,206 - The "Rhythm Nation" tour was the biggest debut tour 870 00:42:38,306 --> 00:42:42,886 in history, and that's a record she still holds to this day. 871 00:42:42,987 --> 00:42:44,728 - Janet you're number one. 872 00:42:44,828 --> 00:42:46,806 - She's a great dancer, she's a great singer. 873 00:42:46,908 --> 00:42:48,768 She's a great everything. She's got it all. 874 00:42:48,868 --> 00:42:51,806 - Michael was bad, but Janet was dyno-mite. 875 00:42:51,908 --> 00:42:54,728 - She has made a name for herself, she's different. 876 00:42:54,828 --> 00:42:56,368 I like her style. 877 00:42:56,466 --> 00:42:59,828 - You are the best, don't forget it, you're the best. 878 00:43:02,466 --> 00:43:03,886 - [Photographer] That's it perfect, right there. 879 00:43:03,987 --> 00:43:05,005 - Congratulations on your- 880 00:43:05,105 --> 00:43:06,367 - Aww, thanks. 881 00:43:06,466 --> 00:43:09,806 - Janet is now seen as an important artist. 882 00:43:09,907 --> 00:43:11,907 As important as Michael. 883 00:43:13,667 --> 00:43:17,645 She was reaching a very, very high point in her career, 884 00:43:17,746 --> 00:43:19,846 but what Janet didn't know at the time 885 00:43:19,947 --> 00:43:23,066 is that there would be major problems ahead. 886 00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:26,767 - New details are emerging about the police investigation 887 00:43:26,867 --> 00:43:28,167 of pop star Michael Jackson. 888 00:43:28,267 --> 00:43:29,645 - Although we have confirmed 889 00:43:29,746 --> 00:43:31,767 the existence of the investigation, 890 00:43:31,867 --> 00:43:35,127 we have not disclosed any of the specifics publicly. 891 00:43:35,225 --> 00:43:36,966 - [Reporter] Two of Michael Jackson's homes 892 00:43:37,066 --> 00:43:38,645 were searched over the weekend. 893 00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:40,846 - [Man] I hope he isn't going to be tarred and feathered 894 00:43:40,947 --> 00:43:44,407 before there is any real proof of anything. 895 00:43:44,505 --> 00:43:45,426 - [Reporter] Despite all the controversy 896 00:43:45,505 --> 00:43:46,447 surrounding her brother Michael, 897 00:43:46,545 --> 00:43:48,545 the show must go on for Janet Jackson. 898 00:43:50,386 --> 00:43:51,566 - [Producer] When the allegation came out, 899 00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:54,086 you got tarred with that at the same time. 900 00:43:54,185 --> 00:43:56,005 - Mm-hmm. 901 00:43:56,105 --> 00:43:58,246 Guilty by association. 902 00:43:58,346 --> 00:44:00,346 I guess that's what they call it, right? 903 00:44:02,145 --> 00:44:04,706 (tense music) 65302

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