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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:09,661 --> 00:00:12,969 - I have dedicated my life, 4 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:18,322 my entire life, since being a boy to now, 5 00:00:18,366 --> 00:00:20,585 to being an artist, 6 00:00:20,629 --> 00:00:26,983 and to do so in a way that was, to me, self-righteous. 7 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:30,073 I want the world to be the way that I envision it. 8 00:00:30,117 --> 00:00:36,340 And that means that the world is full of conflicts, 9 00:00:36,384 --> 00:00:38,429 and so am I. 10 00:00:38,473 --> 00:00:41,998 I'm in conflict with everything out there that pisses me off, 11 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:46,872 that upsets me, that's, you know, not-- 12 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:50,485 that's not just, that's not right. 13 00:00:50,528 --> 00:00:53,357 - A speedy trial in front of a jury of peers, 14 00:00:53,401 --> 00:00:55,925 it's one of our Constitutional rights. 15 00:00:55,968 --> 00:00:58,232 But there are those that think the Sixth Amendment 16 00:00:58,275 --> 00:01:02,323 ought to be amended to include trial by mainframe. 17 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:05,761 - When jurors found OJ Simpson not guilty, 18 00:01:05,804 --> 00:01:08,720 more than a difference of opinion separated them 19 00:01:08,764 --> 00:01:11,897 from New York computer scientist Joseph Bonuso. 20 00:01:11,941 --> 00:01:14,639 - We found OJ guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. 21 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:16,293 He was guilty of murder. 22 00:01:16,337 --> 00:01:18,078 - As designed, the Solomon Project 23 00:01:18,121 --> 00:01:20,036 at the New York University Law School 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,865 is supposed to take the jury out of jurisprudence, 25 00:01:22,908 --> 00:01:25,389 casting all trials to the impartiality 26 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:27,174 of artificial intelligence. 27 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:29,176 Testimony, evidence, and precedence 28 00:01:29,219 --> 00:01:31,091 were entered into the computer, 29 00:01:31,134 --> 00:01:34,137 and a complicated formula using fuzzy logic 30 00:01:34,181 --> 00:01:35,834 helped render a verdict. 31 00:01:35,878 --> 00:01:37,532 [tape rewinding] 32 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:41,057 - A jury is a manipulated group of puppets. 33 00:01:41,101 --> 00:01:44,060 [playful music] 34 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:47,759 ♪ 35 00:01:47,803 --> 00:01:50,806 - As a prankster, I always have my guard up in general, 36 00:01:50,849 --> 00:01:52,634 especially when I hear Joey's name. 37 00:01:52,677 --> 00:01:54,375 - You run... - A brothel for dogs. 38 00:01:54,418 --> 00:01:56,028 - A brothel for dogs. 39 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:57,682 - How would you feel 40 00:01:57,726 --> 00:01:59,728 if you had covered Joey Skaggs' Cathouse for Dogs? 41 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:01,251 - Would you welcome the inventor 42 00:02:01,295 --> 00:02:03,862 of the fish tank condo, Joey Skaggs. 43 00:02:03,906 --> 00:02:07,170 - Joey Skaggs, he's fooled every major American network 44 00:02:07,214 --> 00:02:08,911 with his elaborate hoaxes. 45 00:02:08,954 --> 00:02:10,956 - Print this guy, Mike. 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,567 I want to make sure we never see him again under any other name. 47 00:02:12,610 --> 00:02:14,308 - How do we even know that you are Joey Skaggs? 48 00:02:14,351 --> 00:02:15,700 How do we even know what you're saying 49 00:02:15,744 --> 00:02:17,659 about these media outlets is true? 50 00:02:17,702 --> 00:02:20,227 - Any journalist who falls for a Joey Skaggs prank is... 51 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:22,185 it's their own fault. 52 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:24,970 - He thinks that cockroaches are very important to all of us. 53 00:02:25,014 --> 00:02:28,322 - A cockroach hormone pill to cure everything. 54 00:02:28,365 --> 00:02:29,845 - Cockroach Cure. 55 00:02:29,888 --> 00:02:31,629 Now, would you read that article? 56 00:02:31,673 --> 00:02:33,936 - It's because they didn't look closely. 57 00:02:33,979 --> 00:02:35,677 They didn't fact-check. 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,505 They didn't make that call to verify something. 59 00:02:37,548 --> 00:02:39,333 - My parents were missionaries in Kenya. 60 00:02:39,376 --> 00:02:42,292 [all roaring] 61 00:02:42,336 --> 00:02:44,251 - Would you ever believe all the things 62 00:02:44,294 --> 00:02:45,904 you see on television? 63 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:48,385 Hoaxes performed before your very eyes. 64 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:49,821 - Don't you feel bad when you do it? 65 00:02:49,865 --> 00:02:51,606 - I feel very good. 66 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:54,435 - I was pissed off at Joey for a period of time. 67 00:02:54,478 --> 00:02:55,958 But I decided to forgive him, 68 00:02:56,001 --> 00:02:58,221 because Joey does what I really love, 69 00:02:58,265 --> 00:03:00,049 and that is, he makes you laugh, 70 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:01,877 and when he makes you laugh, he makes you think. 71 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:03,922 - Well, about a month ago we told you about a man 72 00:03:03,966 --> 00:03:05,663 who came up with a way to render verdicts 73 00:03:05,707 --> 00:03:08,188 without all the arguing in the jury room. 74 00:03:08,231 --> 00:03:11,321 But he didn't say anything about being embarrassed, 75 00:03:11,365 --> 00:03:13,584 which is what CNN is right now. 76 00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:16,805 - We've learned his invention was all a big hoax, 77 00:03:16,848 --> 00:03:18,241 and we fell for it. 78 00:03:18,285 --> 00:03:20,287 - Wow, that thing on TV news 79 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:22,593 that we were all talking about wasn't true. 80 00:03:22,637 --> 00:03:24,160 - I remember being kind of scared. 81 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:25,901 Like, oh, my God, we've been found out. 82 00:03:25,944 --> 00:03:27,772 And Joey's like, "No, this is all part of it. 83 00:03:27,816 --> 00:03:29,992 "It's all part of it, because they have to find out. 84 00:03:30,035 --> 00:03:31,428 That's the other part." 85 00:03:42,526 --> 00:03:45,573 - I can't put that on the back of a tricycle. 86 00:03:45,616 --> 00:03:48,010 There's just no way. 87 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:52,057 So I'm gonna stick with the missile. 88 00:03:52,101 --> 00:03:54,059 The missile it is. 89 00:04:19,824 --> 00:04:23,611 First, I'd get it extended. 90 00:04:23,654 --> 00:04:27,789 Making sure that it was supported. 91 00:04:27,832 --> 00:04:30,008 And then I would, like you said, 92 00:04:30,052 --> 00:04:32,315 a pipe with a flange. 93 00:04:32,359 --> 00:04:35,405 [tool grinding] 94 00:04:40,671 --> 00:04:45,067 We have Iran, you know, still playing games. 95 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:48,026 North Korea still playing games. 96 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:50,594 You have surveillance drones. 97 00:04:50,638 --> 00:04:54,163 You have Russia being very upset with what's going on with NATO, 98 00:04:54,206 --> 00:04:57,601 with moving missiles to their borders. 99 00:04:57,645 --> 00:05:00,387 There are just so many issues that this relates to, and it's-- 100 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:02,563 - You know what, though? - And it's satire. 101 00:05:02,606 --> 00:05:04,173 I mean, it's a mobile rocket launcher. 102 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:06,306 - The thing is, you know, something may just, 103 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:08,612 in the next six weeks, happen. 104 00:05:08,656 --> 00:05:10,092 - Yeah. 105 00:05:10,135 --> 00:05:11,615 - And, it's just gonna need to be ready. 106 00:05:18,448 --> 00:05:19,971 - What color do we paint it? 107 00:05:20,015 --> 00:05:21,538 We have the North Korean flag on it, 108 00:05:21,582 --> 00:05:23,627 the Iranian flag on it? 109 00:05:23,671 --> 00:05:27,065 If I had a robe, I can be an Arab. 110 00:05:32,636 --> 00:05:34,246 I like to mix it up. 111 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:36,074 It doesn't have to always be a hoax. 112 00:05:36,118 --> 00:05:39,600 It can be a direct theatrical piece 113 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:43,995 which is a political statement or a confrontation. 114 00:05:44,039 --> 00:05:45,606 I just love the fact 115 00:05:45,649 --> 00:05:49,740 that here I am in the middle of rural America 116 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:53,570 with people who, you know, you wonder 117 00:05:53,614 --> 00:05:58,880 whether they would agree with your political stance or not, 118 00:05:58,923 --> 00:06:01,404 but they're willing to do it. 119 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:04,059 The rocket's the rocket. 120 00:06:04,102 --> 00:06:07,192 That'll be a great visual, 121 00:06:07,236 --> 00:06:10,326 peddling down the streets of New York. 122 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,502 Or wherever. 123 00:06:20,771 --> 00:06:22,860 Jon. 124 00:06:22,904 --> 00:06:24,819 Well, you're not gonna believe this. 125 00:06:24,862 --> 00:06:30,390 I just came back with Judy from seeing Sacha Baron Cohen, 126 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:32,957 Cohen's film, "The Dictator." 127 00:06:33,001 --> 00:06:36,700 And, yeah, so he's got a missile in it, you know? 128 00:06:36,744 --> 00:06:40,008 And he's paying homage to North Korea, 129 00:06:40,051 --> 00:06:44,795 and, you know, he's an Arab building a missile, you know. 130 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,406 [laughing] 131 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:48,451 It's like, oh, fuck, man. 132 00:06:48,495 --> 00:06:50,235 You know? 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,499 But he didn't have it on the back of a tricycle. 134 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:54,588 So we'll stick with the rocket. 135 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:57,895 And we'll just have the mobile rocket launcher, and that's it. 136 00:06:57,939 --> 00:06:59,549 And I just have to... 137 00:06:59,593 --> 00:07:01,464 I may not dress up like an Arab, 138 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:03,161 as I thought I might. 139 00:07:03,205 --> 00:07:05,947 Or as a North Korean, as I thought I might. 140 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:07,731 Maybe I should go as Uncle Sam. 141 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:09,690 I don't know, I don't know. 142 00:07:16,218 --> 00:07:19,656 It's not the same thing, but... 143 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:24,139 you know, he's got it covered kind of. 144 00:07:25,532 --> 00:07:27,185 Rethink this one. 145 00:07:29,753 --> 00:07:32,713 You got to be first. 146 00:07:32,756 --> 00:07:35,280 Not always easy. 147 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:56,650 Look, life throws you a lot of curveballs. 148 00:07:56,693 --> 00:07:57,912 You have to be prepared for it. 149 00:07:57,955 --> 00:08:00,741 You have to go with the flow. 150 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:03,526 There's, you know--you don't have a lot of choices. 151 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:06,181 And what happened with me was, my father had dementia. 152 00:08:06,224 --> 00:08:07,922 He was bedridden for nine years. 153 00:08:07,965 --> 00:08:09,750 My mother was incapable of living alone 154 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:11,578 and taking care of herself. 155 00:08:11,621 --> 00:08:13,275 I said that, you know, when she needed me, 156 00:08:13,318 --> 00:08:14,929 I would be here full-time. 157 00:08:14,972 --> 00:08:17,105 And she needed me. 158 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:21,979 So I had to give up Hawaii and New York. 159 00:08:24,765 --> 00:08:29,770 - Right after my husband died, he came from Hawaii, 160 00:08:29,813 --> 00:08:31,772 and it was a big change for him. 161 00:08:31,815 --> 00:08:36,254 And I'm not gonna say what he calls this place, 162 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:40,389 but it's not been his greatest move, 163 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:43,958 because he doesn't have access 164 00:08:44,001 --> 00:08:47,570 to the things that he's used to. 165 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:50,051 - It's a tricycle, it's a three-wheeler. 166 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:52,053 And on the back of the three-wheeler, 167 00:08:52,096 --> 00:08:58,233 there's a platform that's gonna hold the confessional booth. 168 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:02,542 Whoa. 169 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:04,239 [laughing] 170 00:09:04,282 --> 00:09:05,675 [staples popping] 171 00:09:07,982 --> 00:09:09,549 I've got some crucifixes. 172 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:23,084 [dramatic music] 173 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:26,087 - From FOX 5, this is Election '92. 174 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:28,437 Good evening, I'm Jack Cafferty at Madison Square Garden. 175 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,613 Cora Ann will join us shortly from the studio. 176 00:09:30,657 --> 00:09:32,659 Now, if anyone at the convention's feeling guilty 177 00:09:32,702 --> 00:09:34,399 about something they may have done, 178 00:09:34,443 --> 00:09:36,619 they don't have to go far to confess their sins. 179 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:38,839 A man who calls himself Father William 180 00:09:38,882 --> 00:09:40,623 has mounted a portable confessional booth 181 00:09:40,667 --> 00:09:42,625 on his bicycle. 182 00:09:42,669 --> 00:09:44,714 - For delegates who feel they may have overindulged a bit, 183 00:09:44,758 --> 00:09:46,629 a Catholic priest has set up 184 00:09:46,673 --> 00:09:49,850 a mobile confessional outside Madison Square Garden. 185 00:09:49,893 --> 00:09:52,287 - A Southern California priest has the answer for Catholics 186 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:54,332 who don't have time to confess. 187 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:56,378 He calls it Portofess. 188 00:09:56,421 --> 00:09:59,860 - Father Joseph, who is schlepping a Portofess, 189 00:09:59,903 --> 00:10:03,167 a portable confession booth, around by bike. 190 00:10:03,211 --> 00:10:06,170 [jaunty music] 191 00:10:06,214 --> 00:10:13,264 ♪ 192 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:19,923 - Well, I didn't start out as a prankster. 193 00:10:19,967 --> 00:10:21,664 I was a child artist. 194 00:10:21,708 --> 00:10:23,492 I had a passion for art. 195 00:10:23,535 --> 00:10:27,452 I always drew, I painted, I sculpted. 196 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:30,020 I just knew that I wanted to be an artist. 197 00:10:30,064 --> 00:10:31,674 That was my dream. 198 00:10:31,718 --> 00:10:35,156 - Most children, they don't obey their parents. 199 00:10:35,199 --> 00:10:38,115 They don't want to accept rules and regulations 200 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,161 and come in at a certain time. 201 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:42,076 He was just a normal child 202 00:10:42,119 --> 00:10:46,297 who just didn't want to do what Mama and Papa said. 203 00:10:46,341 --> 00:10:49,431 - My parents moved to a little area 204 00:10:49,474 --> 00:10:53,174 on the Brooklyn-Queens borderline called Laurel Hill, 205 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:58,483 by Newtown Creek, a real industrial slum area. 206 00:10:58,527 --> 00:11:00,703 And there was Calvary Cemetery there, 207 00:11:00,747 --> 00:11:02,923 the Kosciuszko Bridge. 208 00:11:02,966 --> 00:11:05,926 And off in the distance was Manhattan. 209 00:11:05,969 --> 00:11:08,929 [dramatic music] 210 00:11:08,972 --> 00:11:12,106 ♪ 211 00:11:12,149 --> 00:11:13,542 I was a young artist. 212 00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:15,370 I knew what I wanted to be. 213 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:17,633 And I wanted to be in Manhattan. 214 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,636 [jaunty music] 215 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:27,687 ♪ 216 00:11:31,125 --> 00:11:34,302 It was a junior-high-school art teacher that told me 217 00:11:34,345 --> 00:11:36,260 about the High School of Art and Design. 218 00:11:36,304 --> 00:11:38,262 And I was really fortunate enough to be accepted 219 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:40,525 into this extraordinary high school. 220 00:11:40,569 --> 00:11:43,615 And it was all young artists, and the teachers were artists. 221 00:11:43,659 --> 00:11:45,313 And it was inspirational. 222 00:11:45,356 --> 00:11:48,011 - My husband never agreed, never. 223 00:11:48,055 --> 00:11:49,230 - Well, what does your son do? 224 00:11:49,273 --> 00:11:50,492 He's a fine artist. 225 00:11:50,535 --> 00:11:52,407 What the fuck is a fine artist? 226 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:54,888 - And I said, well, as far as I'm concerned, so be it. 227 00:11:54,931 --> 00:11:56,803 It's his life. 228 00:11:56,846 --> 00:11:59,457 And if he says it's what he wants to do, 229 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:03,679 that's fine with me. 230 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,986 - You have a dream, a passion. 231 00:12:06,029 --> 00:12:07,901 I'm gonna be an artist. 232 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:09,772 I'll just do all my work, and then I'll be discovered. 233 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:11,992 [laughs] 234 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:13,776 I'll just paint and paint, and somebody's gonna go, 235 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:15,865 "Oh, genius!" 236 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:19,303 But it doesn't always work out that way for most people. 237 00:12:19,347 --> 00:12:22,742 You're forced to wait until you are accepted into a gallery 238 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:26,571 and then have a show and then hope for a review. 239 00:12:26,615 --> 00:12:28,225 There was no immediacy involved. 240 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:29,531 And I wanted the immediacy. 241 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,272 I like things now. 242 00:12:31,315 --> 00:12:32,839 I said, fuck that. 243 00:12:32,882 --> 00:12:35,189 I'm just--I'm gonna do it in the streets. 244 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:36,320 I'm gonna do it my way. 245 00:12:36,364 --> 00:12:39,323 [upbeat rock music] 246 00:12:39,367 --> 00:12:46,417 ♪ 247 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,207 - Here in the "Time" Magazine I read about a guy 248 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:56,601 who took a load of hippies, 249 00:12:56,645 --> 00:12:59,126 who were long-haired, strange-looking people, 250 00:12:59,169 --> 00:13:01,519 as you well know, 251 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:03,826 put them on a bus and took them to Queens. 252 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:10,877 ♪ 253 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:17,840 - We took pictures of people 254 00:13:17,884 --> 00:13:19,842 mowing their lawns and washing their cars, 255 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,627 and I took people to Howard Johnson's for ice cream 256 00:13:22,671 --> 00:13:25,152 and White Castle for, you know, hamburgers. 257 00:13:25,195 --> 00:13:27,502 And they screamed, "We're bring invaded! 258 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:29,199 We're being invaded!" 259 00:13:29,243 --> 00:13:31,593 - Day and night, there were busloads of tourists 260 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:33,813 from all over America, all over the world, 261 00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:37,599 coming through, looking at the hippies in the Village. 262 00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:38,992 - But to have freaks go to suburbia 263 00:13:39,035 --> 00:13:40,254 and take pictures of them. 264 00:13:40,297 --> 00:13:42,212 "Oh, we're being invaded!" 265 00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:44,258 - I think that is the definition of great political art, 266 00:13:44,301 --> 00:13:47,000 is when it goes outside of the museum 267 00:13:47,043 --> 00:13:51,395 and affects people in their daily life. 268 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:52,919 - If I had a show of my paintings 269 00:13:52,962 --> 00:13:56,879 and 1,000 people or 10,000 people came, 270 00:13:56,923 --> 00:13:58,750 that would be considered a great success. 271 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:02,102 But if I'm capable of accessing the news 272 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:03,799 and millions of people see it, 273 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:05,061 well, there's a tremendous difference 274 00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,672 between 10,000 and 10 million. 275 00:14:07,716 --> 00:14:10,675 [upbeat rock music] 276 00:14:10,719 --> 00:14:16,420 ♪ 277 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:18,814 - He was wilder in the '60s. 278 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:22,731 His stuff was so raw and so fresh 279 00:14:22,774 --> 00:14:27,170 that it was like experimental jazz. 280 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:34,264 ♪ 281 00:14:36,658 --> 00:14:39,748 - The war motivated everything we were doing. 282 00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:41,402 Even though what we were doing 283 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:44,927 may not have been specifically about the war, 284 00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:47,321 underneath it was kind of a motor. 285 00:14:47,364 --> 00:14:49,323 It kept us going. 286 00:14:49,366 --> 00:14:53,283 Whether you could call it anger or dissatisfaction 287 00:14:53,327 --> 00:14:55,198 or unhappiness, 288 00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:59,028 whatever it was inside us was making us make our art. 289 00:14:59,072 --> 00:15:01,901 ♪ 290 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:03,641 - The war in Vietnam was going on. 291 00:15:03,685 --> 00:15:05,382 People are killing one another. 292 00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:07,645 What kind of God are we talking about here? 293 00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:12,912 And so I constructed a life-size sculpture 294 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:17,394 of a dead and decayed figure on a crucifix. 295 00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:20,397 [garage rock music] 296 00:15:20,441 --> 00:15:27,491 ♪ 297 00:15:30,712 --> 00:15:32,888 I dragged it on my back... 298 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,455 - Up 5th Avenue. 299 00:15:34,498 --> 00:15:36,065 - Into the Easter Day Parade. 300 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:38,285 - Easter Parade, well-to-do people 301 00:15:38,328 --> 00:15:44,160 walking on 5th Avenue in their most beautiful clothing. 302 00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:46,075 - When I got to the doors of St. Patrick's, 303 00:15:46,119 --> 00:15:47,990 the police locked the church doors, 304 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,557 pushed the piece and me, 305 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,254 kicked the piece, kicked me. 306 00:15:51,298 --> 00:15:53,778 "Kill him! Kill him! Kill him!" 307 00:15:53,822 --> 00:15:55,171 And I just dropped the sculpture, 308 00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:56,956 and I ran down the block 309 00:15:56,999 --> 00:15:59,697 and jumped into a cab and got away. 310 00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:02,091 [siren wailing] 311 00:16:02,135 --> 00:16:04,572 The police became the Roman soldiers. 312 00:16:04,615 --> 00:16:08,837 The crowd became, you know, the jeering crowd. 313 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,015 And it was a total reenactment of over 2,000 years ago. 314 00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:20,022 ♪ 315 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:23,765 - He was at the right place at the right time. 316 00:16:23,808 --> 00:16:26,333 Had the wish, the energy, and the love 317 00:16:26,376 --> 00:16:30,859 to explore it and push it. 318 00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,817 - The war in Vietnam dragged on, 319 00:16:32,861 --> 00:16:35,951 and I had to continue to protest against it. 320 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:38,040 So I built a life-sized Vietnamese village 321 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:40,042 portraying a Vietnamese nativity. 322 00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:42,784 And I chose to do it on Christmas Day in Central Park. 323 00:16:46,657 --> 00:16:50,226 I got all of my friends with fake guns and helmets 324 00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:51,923 and whatever we could put together, 325 00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:53,969 in an attempt to burn it to the ground. 326 00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:57,320 [garage rock music] 327 00:16:57,364 --> 00:16:59,235 And, of course, the cops found us. 328 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:00,584 They were looking for me. 329 00:17:00,628 --> 00:17:01,977 "Has anyone seen Joey Skaggs?" 330 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,761 They had a piece of paper. 331 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:06,068 They even asked me, "Have you seen Joey Skaggs?" 332 00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:07,461 I said, "He was around here a minute ago." 333 00:17:07,504 --> 00:17:10,551 [music fading] 334 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:17,427 And then "The New York Times" does a story-- 335 00:17:17,471 --> 00:17:21,605 "Hippies arrested for littering." 336 00:17:21,649 --> 00:17:23,433 Gee, they missed my intent. 337 00:17:23,477 --> 00:17:25,000 That's not what I was saying. 338 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:26,828 That's not what I meant. 339 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:29,048 I was doing something against the war in Vietnam. 340 00:17:33,574 --> 00:17:36,055 I watched how the media twisted and torqued 341 00:17:36,098 --> 00:17:38,579 the intent, content, meaning of the message 342 00:17:38,622 --> 00:17:40,450 to suit their own agenda. 343 00:17:40,494 --> 00:17:43,932 And I realized that the media has an amazing ability 344 00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:45,629 to mold public opinion. 345 00:17:45,673 --> 00:17:49,894 So I decided, rather than just use the media 346 00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:52,680 to try to get attention for my work, 347 00:17:52,723 --> 00:17:56,988 I would use the media as part of my work. 348 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:59,817 Exploit their vulnerability, gullibility, 349 00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:03,473 necessity for being out there first, 350 00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:08,348 and incorporate this into a theatrical performance. 351 00:18:08,391 --> 00:18:10,306 And then... [pops lips] 352 00:18:10,350 --> 00:18:11,655 See what happens. 353 00:18:11,699 --> 00:18:14,615 [garage rock music] 354 00:18:14,658 --> 00:18:21,709 ♪ 355 00:18:27,976 --> 00:18:29,847 Handler and vet on duty, 356 00:18:29,891 --> 00:18:31,545 stud and photo service available. 357 00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:32,807 No weirdos, please. 358 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:34,374 Dogs only, by appointment. 359 00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:36,158 - I can't believe that the "Village Voice," 360 00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,856 for all its great reporting, fell for that one. 361 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,597 That always makes me laugh. 362 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:42,599 - It was, you know, outrageous. 363 00:18:42,643 --> 00:18:45,385 But it was a sex story, and it was a dog story. 364 00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,082 The media likes to have, you know, 365 00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:48,562 little kids and dog stories all the time. 366 00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:49,650 There has to be an animal. 367 00:18:49,693 --> 00:18:51,391 Boom, I put that out. 368 00:18:51,434 --> 00:18:53,044 And the phone rang off the hook. 369 00:18:53,088 --> 00:18:55,308 I got together a group of actors, 370 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:59,442 a bunch of dogs in a loft in downtown Manhattan... 371 00:18:59,486 --> 00:19:02,358 And created a theatrical performance for the press. 372 00:19:02,402 --> 00:19:04,012 - Okay, so what was going to be 373 00:19:04,055 --> 00:19:06,319 just the gag of having this ad appear 374 00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:08,059 turned out to be something you had to concoct 375 00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:09,583 because there was so much media interest in it. 376 00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:10,584 - But that's what I wanted. 377 00:19:10,627 --> 00:19:11,585 I wanted to do that. 378 00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:13,195 I was setting it up. 379 00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:14,240 - Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 380 00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:15,937 This is Alex Bennett. 381 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:18,548 And tonight "Midnight Blue" visits a cathouse 382 00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:23,031 where all the females are real bitches. 383 00:19:23,074 --> 00:19:25,903 - Betty Drake and Blackberry. 384 00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:29,690 Isn't she beautiful? 385 00:19:29,733 --> 00:19:32,214 This meeting is to introduce the customers and their dogs 386 00:19:32,258 --> 00:19:34,129 to the brothel, to the bitches. 387 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,957 And after they've chosen 388 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,524 which bitch they wish their dog to mate with, 389 00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:40,048 we then inject the dogs with the drug 390 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:42,877 which induces heat, and we have a second meeting 391 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,661 then when they copulate. 392 00:19:44,705 --> 00:19:46,924 - And we had a really horny male dog that was there, 393 00:19:46,968 --> 00:19:50,450 and his mojo kicked in, and he was just humping space. 394 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:51,538 He would hump anything. 395 00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:52,756 He'd just grab a head. 396 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,018 He'd grab anything. 397 00:19:54,062 --> 00:19:55,977 And it looked like a dog orgy. 398 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:59,110 [dogs panting] 399 00:19:59,154 --> 00:20:01,200 I wrote letters to editors. 400 00:20:01,243 --> 00:20:03,898 I said, "I've taken my dog, you know, to the cathouse, 401 00:20:03,941 --> 00:20:05,029 "and he had a great time. 402 00:20:05,073 --> 00:20:06,335 I recommend this." 403 00:20:06,379 --> 00:20:08,032 Or, "I've taken my dog there, 404 00:20:08,076 --> 00:20:09,730 "and he was attacked by other dogs. 405 00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:11,122 You know, I'm thinking about suing." 406 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:12,559 I created a controversy. 407 00:20:12,602 --> 00:20:15,039 - I'm completely against it. 408 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:20,001 Number one, I think you're gonna be taking female dogs, 409 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:21,698 causing them to go through false 410 00:20:21,742 --> 00:20:24,135 or silent non-ovulatory heats. 411 00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:26,747 - I created a second controversy in the Cathouse for Dogs 412 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:28,705 when I got so many calls 413 00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:30,620 from people wanting to have sex with dogs 414 00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:33,971 or wanting to watch women getting screwed by dogs. 415 00:20:34,015 --> 00:20:35,538 So I thought, well, here's an opportunity. 416 00:20:35,582 --> 00:20:39,281 I will create a diversion 417 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:41,718 so that people don't question the initial premise. 418 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,459 So I sent out a second press release 419 00:20:43,503 --> 00:20:46,027 saying there's absolutely no animal-human contact 420 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:47,811 happening in the Cathouse for Dogs. 421 00:20:47,855 --> 00:20:50,161 And so that had, you know, 422 00:20:50,205 --> 00:20:52,947 the effect of making you not think, 423 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,341 "Well, is there really a cathouse for dogs?" 424 00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:56,820 Because now you're thinking, 425 00:20:56,864 --> 00:20:59,301 "People are having sex with dogs. 426 00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:00,781 Oh, my God." 427 00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:03,697 So when ABC Television called me, 428 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:07,483 they wanted to do a piece on the brothel for dogs. 429 00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:12,532 So I provided WABC with an interview 430 00:21:12,575 --> 00:21:14,316 in Washington Square Park 431 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:18,015 and a videotape of the "Midnight Blue" performance. 432 00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:19,800 And they did a documentary 433 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:22,150 which was nominated and, I later found out, 434 00:21:22,193 --> 00:21:25,196 won the Emmy as Best News Broadcast 435 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,330 for the inside of an animal-cruelty story. 436 00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:30,071 - In the United States, 437 00:21:30,114 --> 00:21:32,769 there's a myth of the happy-go-lucky vagabond. 438 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:35,772 The carefree mutt with no master and no leash, 439 00:21:35,816 --> 00:21:37,818 who comes and goes as he pleases 440 00:21:37,861 --> 00:21:40,386 and does whatever his nose tells him to do. 441 00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:42,344 This establishment in Greenwich Village 442 00:21:42,388 --> 00:21:44,172 is a cathouse for dogs. 443 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:46,522 By that, we do not mean a stud service. 444 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:49,351 We mean a house of prostitution for dogs. 445 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:52,398 For $50, your dog can have sex with a female dog 446 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:54,225 while you watch and sip cocktails 447 00:21:54,269 --> 00:21:55,966 and take some pictures if you'd like to. 448 00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:57,707 - It was such an obvious idea to me. 449 00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,100 First of all, there are hundreds of thousands 450 00:21:59,143 --> 00:22:00,580 of dogs in the city. 451 00:22:00,623 --> 00:22:02,408 There's a dog-population problem. 452 00:22:02,451 --> 00:22:05,411 People are willing to take their dogs to dog restaurants. 453 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:10,894 I thought it'd be natural to get their dogs sexually gratified. 454 00:22:10,938 --> 00:22:14,071 They got after me, the ASPCA, the Bureau of Animal Affairs, 455 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:15,769 the NYPD Vice Squad, 456 00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:17,814 various religious and humane organizations. 457 00:22:17,858 --> 00:22:19,860 And I was subpoenaed by the Attorney General 458 00:22:19,903 --> 00:22:22,384 for illegally running a whorehouse for dogs. 459 00:22:22,428 --> 00:22:25,387 [upbeat music] 460 00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:27,302 ♪ 461 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,131 - Today at the State Attorney General's Office, 462 00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:31,828 Skaggs and his attorney appeared 463 00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:33,613 in response to a subpoena. 464 00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:37,878 - And miraculously, the subpoena was for April 1st-- 465 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,053 April Fool's Day. 466 00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:48,236 - He says the hoax was a conceptual art piece. 467 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,020 And an expensive one. 468 00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:51,500 - For what purpose? 469 00:22:51,544 --> 00:22:53,459 - Well, it says a lot about the media. 470 00:22:53,502 --> 00:22:55,722 I hope that it will change the viewing audience's opinion 471 00:22:55,765 --> 00:22:58,725 and change their perspective as to what media really is. 472 00:22:58,768 --> 00:23:00,466 There's a media reality. 473 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:02,772 Television is not necessarily reality. 474 00:23:02,816 --> 00:23:06,385 And millions of people have spent weeks 475 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:08,909 believing that there's a cathouse for dogs. 476 00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:10,650 And, in fact, there never was. 477 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:12,434 And that's what I did. 478 00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:14,784 I decided to have a relationship with the news media 479 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:17,831 where they were not just reporting about me, 480 00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:21,965 but I was reporting about them as well. 481 00:23:22,009 --> 00:23:24,446 Their irresponsibility, their gullibility, 482 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:27,101 their prejudices. 483 00:23:30,191 --> 00:23:32,759 - Joey is the quality-control inspector. 484 00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:36,066 He's poking for the soft spots in the media armor, 485 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:38,765 and it turns out that it's very easy to find. 486 00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:42,072 - And in a culture like ours that's so media-dominated, 487 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:43,552 where commercial interests 488 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:45,467 are just pushing their propaganda on us 489 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:47,469 from every direction, 490 00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,863 the lesson he teaches, I believe, 491 00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:52,431 is, you know, be skeptical. 492 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,302 Be double-skeptical. 493 00:23:54,345 --> 00:23:55,956 Don't believe what you see. 494 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,875 - And if I believe that, 495 00:24:01,918 --> 00:24:04,791 what else do I believe that's total bullshit? 496 00:24:36,736 --> 00:24:39,086 Denis, aloha, it's Joey Skaggs. 497 00:24:39,129 --> 00:24:42,829 Could you please give me a call back when you can? 498 00:24:45,658 --> 00:24:51,533 This is a guy that is leasing my property in Hawaii. 499 00:24:59,149 --> 00:25:03,676 I just didn't want to give up what was, to me, 500 00:25:03,719 --> 00:25:06,243 the most important thing in my life, 501 00:25:06,287 --> 00:25:09,725 to be an artist, to be creative, 502 00:25:09,769 --> 00:25:12,032 to get up when I want to get up, 503 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:13,294 sleep when I want to sleep, 504 00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:14,382 eat when I want to eat, 505 00:25:14,425 --> 00:25:16,427 and that's it. 506 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,691 It's really--you know, you think it sounds easy. 507 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,214 It's not easy. 508 00:25:20,257 --> 00:25:21,911 It's a very difficult thing to do, 509 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:25,698 and you give up many things in doing that. 510 00:25:25,741 --> 00:25:29,615 But I couldn't live it any other way. 511 00:25:29,658 --> 00:25:32,574 I don't want to live it any other way. 512 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:45,152 And people always want to know what's next. 513 00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,371 You know, what have you done recently? 514 00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:01,168 - You know, I could just, you know, sit back 515 00:26:01,211 --> 00:26:06,086 and wait and see, you know, what the next, you know... 516 00:26:06,129 --> 00:26:08,828 'Cause he can't stop. 517 00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:12,222 So, you know, if you've been doing it for a while 518 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,575 and it's a thing that you're really good at, 519 00:26:16,618 --> 00:26:19,099 you know, why would you stop? 520 00:26:19,142 --> 00:26:22,450 What else would you do? 521 00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:26,367 - 10,000 rural farmers were marching in the streets saying, 522 00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:28,282 "Down with Monsanto," 523 00:26:28,325 --> 00:26:31,241 because Monsanto donated 475 tons of seeds to Haiti 524 00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:32,982 after the earthquake to help them 525 00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:34,767 in their time of greatest need. 526 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:37,639 - About 70% of grocery store food in the U.S. 527 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:41,643 contains genetically modified organisms, or GMOs. 528 00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:43,645 - Biotech giant Monsanto, 529 00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:45,647 campaigners, and environmental-- 530 00:27:09,323 --> 00:27:11,194 - Why don't you buy these GMOs? 531 00:27:11,238 --> 00:27:13,240 And they're resistant to Roundup, which we also make. 532 00:27:13,283 --> 00:27:15,024 So why don't you take that, too? 533 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:16,722 And they don't grow well in your country, 534 00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,506 they aren't really from your country, 535 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,942 you need to buy this synthetic fertilizer 536 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:22,031 to go along with those. - Right. 537 00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:23,772 - And they would lose their own seeds in the meantime. 538 00:27:23,816 --> 00:27:26,862 [radio fading] 539 00:27:45,272 --> 00:27:49,580 - Epiphanies come in weird places at weird times. 540 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,119 I moved to Kauai because I was looking to get away 541 00:28:06,162 --> 00:28:11,602 from all the restrictions that I felt living in New York. 542 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,736 I've lived there for decades, 543 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:19,654 and I know the intimate, underbelly stories 544 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,351 of what's going on on Kauai. 545 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:43,069 Star Wars development, drone development, 546 00:28:43,112 --> 00:28:44,679 GMO corn fields. 547 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:54,776 And Hawaii's just a microcosm of the real world. 548 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,430 This is going on all around us. 549 00:28:56,473 --> 00:28:58,040 This Pandora's box, you know, 550 00:28:58,084 --> 00:28:59,955 we've opened up all this technology. 551 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:01,261 Who controls it? 552 00:29:01,304 --> 00:29:03,002 Who's making money from it? 553 00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:05,004 Are we gonna be able to know what we're eating? 554 00:29:05,047 --> 00:29:07,136 Are they going to identify it? 555 00:29:18,147 --> 00:29:20,759 My intent is to bring attention to these issues, 556 00:29:20,802 --> 00:29:23,196 because I know that no one's getting attention 557 00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:24,980 for the issues, nobody cares. 558 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,421 So how do you make people think 559 00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:35,338 and get upset and motivate them to take action? 560 00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:37,819 I do it by creating characters. 561 00:29:37,863 --> 00:29:40,822 [dramatic rock music] 562 00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:47,873 ♪ 563 00:29:50,223 --> 00:29:52,703 - There we go. - Okay. 564 00:29:52,747 --> 00:29:59,798 ♪ 565 00:30:06,065 --> 00:30:09,111 [tool whirring] 566 00:30:10,678 --> 00:30:12,898 - So we're gonna do a fake news story. 567 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:24,518 I'm trying to put together a little mini documentary, 568 00:30:24,561 --> 00:30:26,476 about 10 minutes long, 569 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,219 so that I can either put it in a film festival 570 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:33,875 or make a news story out of it, put it on YouTube, 571 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:37,313 figure out some way I can have people 572 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:38,488 have access to it. 573 00:30:38,532 --> 00:30:41,100 99% of this is true. 574 00:30:41,143 --> 00:30:43,798 I am the only false part. 575 00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:52,372 My character is a guy, 576 00:30:52,415 --> 00:30:55,157 whether I'm a marine biologist or a fisherman. 577 00:30:55,201 --> 00:30:57,072 I was in a motorcycle accident, 578 00:30:57,116 --> 00:30:59,596 broke my jaw in several places, knocked out my teeth. 579 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,512 And my geneticist scientist friend said, 580 00:31:02,556 --> 00:31:04,950 "Look, you know, we can try introducing 581 00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:07,996 "shark stem cells in your jaw 582 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,694 and see if we can regenerate teeth." 583 00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,740 [laughing heartily] 584 00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:15,438 Oh, ah. 585 00:31:15,482 --> 00:31:17,527 Oh, wow. 586 00:31:17,571 --> 00:31:19,312 You have to tell a story. 587 00:31:19,355 --> 00:31:20,530 Scary, man. 588 00:31:20,574 --> 00:31:22,663 And that's the key. 589 00:31:22,706 --> 00:31:27,929 A good hoax promises a good story and visuals. 590 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:30,932 [exciting synth music] 591 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:37,112 ♪ 592 00:31:37,156 --> 00:31:38,766 - Our next guest on "Live at Five" 593 00:31:38,809 --> 00:31:40,463 is a man with a mission. 594 00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:42,552 He is the head of a group called Metamorphosis, 595 00:31:42,596 --> 00:31:46,643 and he thinks that cockroaches are very important to all of us. 596 00:31:46,687 --> 00:31:49,168 Sue and I are delighted to welcome Dr. Josef Gregor 597 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:50,691 to "Live at Five." 598 00:31:50,734 --> 00:31:52,388 Doctor, it's nice to have you with us. 599 00:31:52,432 --> 00:31:54,564 You have completed a rather exhaustive study, 600 00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:56,262 and in your words, 601 00:31:56,305 --> 00:31:58,699 the future of mankind lies in the cockroach. 602 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:01,441 - So I went with this Panama hat, Panama suit, 603 00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:03,138 roach pins all over me, 604 00:32:03,182 --> 00:32:05,488 a cockroach T-shirt saying "Metamorphosis." 605 00:32:05,532 --> 00:32:07,490 I am an entomologist. 606 00:32:07,534 --> 00:32:10,667 I've been doing research with roaches over the past ten years. 607 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,540 And I believe that roaches are the key to human survival. 608 00:32:13,583 --> 00:32:15,150 - He wore a white hat and a white suit. 609 00:32:15,194 --> 00:32:18,762 He looked as fraudulent as can be. 610 00:32:18,806 --> 00:32:21,113 And I told him, "Joe, you can't get away with this. 611 00:32:21,156 --> 00:32:22,723 Who's gonna believe it?" 612 00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:25,030 - Actually, I brought a strand of super roach 613 00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:26,945 which I have developed, 614 00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:30,949 which is actually impervious to all toxins known to man. 615 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:32,602 - Those are big fellas in there, huh? 616 00:32:32,646 --> 00:32:33,777 - Yes, they are. 617 00:32:33,821 --> 00:32:34,909 - And they're alive, Jack. 618 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,345 - They are alive... 619 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:37,825 - He had this really giant cockroach 620 00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:39,958 that he had gotten from the museum. 621 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,918 When he took that out and he put it on the desk... 622 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:47,008 - And I have developed a formula which is a roach extract, 623 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:50,011 which I have been taking along with my subjects 624 00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:51,752 for the past year. 625 00:32:51,795 --> 00:32:55,930 And colds, flus, virus have all but disappeared. 626 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:57,801 And, you know, when you're there, 627 00:32:57,845 --> 00:33:00,282 and the red light goes on in the camera, 628 00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:02,415 I can't believe I'm here. 629 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:05,809 I can't believe they're falling for this. 630 00:33:05,853 --> 00:33:07,942 The results have been incredible. 631 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,162 And so now I'm on the set. 632 00:33:10,205 --> 00:33:12,425 Well, this is really our theme song. 633 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:14,470 And I had a little tape recorder with me. 634 00:33:14,514 --> 00:33:16,168 - I see. 635 00:33:16,211 --> 00:33:18,387 And I was just gonna, you know, push the button. 636 00:33:18,431 --> 00:33:20,476 - Organization's called Metamorphosis. 637 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,479 ["La Cucaracha" playing] 638 00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:25,612 ♪ 639 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:27,527 [Sue laughing] 640 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:32,053 - Okay, Doctor, we probably ought to move along here. 641 00:33:32,097 --> 00:33:34,055 I want to thank you for sharing 642 00:33:34,099 --> 00:33:37,276 your scientific breakthrough with us here on "Live at Five." 643 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,756 Roaches-- the future of mankind 644 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,976 lies in these little devils right here. 645 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,673 - I'm prepared for anything. 646 00:33:43,717 --> 00:33:47,068 You know, if they go, "We gotcha," they got me. 647 00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:48,678 If they don't have me, 648 00:33:48,722 --> 00:33:50,550 I'm just gonna take it to the next level. 649 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:53,553 [loopy music] 650 00:33:53,596 --> 00:34:00,647 ♪ 651 00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:12,876 - With all the space given to the cockroach cure, 652 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,097 isn't the American newspaper reader entitled to wonder, 653 00:34:16,141 --> 00:34:20,928 what isn't getting in this space because this did? 654 00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:23,365 - Sometimes the facts are boring. 655 00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:25,672 People are more interested in the story than the facts, 656 00:34:25,715 --> 00:34:27,239 and that's what they want to exchange. 657 00:34:27,282 --> 00:34:28,892 People don't want to know the truth. 658 00:34:28,936 --> 00:34:30,546 They want to play with the story. 659 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:31,765 - We're willing to believe in things 660 00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:33,506 that we want to believe in, 661 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:35,377 even if we have a feeling they might not be true. 662 00:34:35,421 --> 00:34:37,031 - Why deal with the legal system 663 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:38,598 without knowing the outcome beforehand? 664 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,165 Let me tell you whether to sue or settle, 665 00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:41,601 if you'll win or lose. 666 00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,211 I use nontraditional techniques 667 00:34:43,255 --> 00:34:44,952 to determine the outcome of legal decisions. 668 00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:46,823 Have you been the victim of a psychic injustice? 669 00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:49,304 Are you suffering from psychic surgery malpractice? 670 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,176 Do you wish to renegotiate contracts made 671 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:52,699 during past lives? 672 00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:54,048 There is no statute of limitations 673 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,310 in the psychic realm. 674 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,138 Let me use my psychic abilities 675 00:34:57,182 --> 00:34:59,880 to help you rectify injustices of the past and present. 676 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,230 No fee unless I win your case. 677 00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:04,624 Call me. 678 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:07,061 - Every Joey Skaggs story starts 679 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:10,847 with some sort of unbelievable lie 680 00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:13,111 that people just want to believe in. 681 00:35:13,154 --> 00:35:14,982 - They wear commando-type berets 682 00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,245 and leather jackets the color of coal. 683 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:19,726 They are the men and women of Walk Right!, 684 00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:22,816 and their mission is to get you if you walk wrong. 685 00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:25,253 - I think a lot of marketers today 686 00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:27,821 are doing the same sort of things. 687 00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:29,779 They come there with live actors, 688 00:35:29,823 --> 00:35:32,130 who are playing parts or dressed up in costume 689 00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:34,610 and getting the names of their brands out there. 690 00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:39,137 It's got much more of an impact than a billboard or an ad on TV. 691 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,531 - If you look on Google and look for brand marketing, 692 00:35:42,575 --> 00:35:45,099 brand storytelling, brand narrative, 693 00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:47,145 you get a gazillion hits. 694 00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:50,496 And everybody is trying to theorize on what that is. 695 00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:52,541 You know, Joey's done it. 696 00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:57,851 - Six Fat Squad commandos are here now, this morning, live, 697 00:35:57,894 --> 00:35:59,766 to maintain tight security around 698 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:01,942 our "Good Morning, America" refrigerator 699 00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:04,205 while we talk to the leader and the founder, Joe Bones. 700 00:36:04,249 --> 00:36:05,989 That is his real name. 701 00:36:06,033 --> 00:36:08,340 - We are there to physically restrain them if necessary. 702 00:36:08,383 --> 00:36:10,211 - Stop them from going to the refrigerator? 703 00:36:10,255 --> 00:36:11,343 - You bet. 704 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:12,996 - It was a nightmare. 705 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,128 She really couldn't help herself. 706 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,782 I had to hold her down. 707 00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:17,914 - So what's the significance of this chain? 708 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:20,613 - Oh, you got to lock the refrigerator sometimes. 709 00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:22,615 - The Yes Men, of course, are dealing 710 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,530 with giant corporations and business 711 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:27,315 and moving into the inside and trying to make changes. 712 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:30,362 - Andy is about to tell a really big lie. 713 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,277 They're gonna think that he represents 714 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,062 one of the largest companies in the world. 715 00:36:35,105 --> 00:36:37,020 - I don't know if they would exist if it weren't for Joey, 716 00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:38,587 if you think about it, 717 00:36:38,631 --> 00:36:40,328 because he's laid the groundwork, 718 00:36:40,372 --> 00:36:42,678 and everybody went, "Whoa, that's really cool. 719 00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,376 Maybe we can do something like that." 720 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:46,291 - I think that definitely gave me inspiration 721 00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:48,684 to realize that what I was doing with Improv Everywhere 722 00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:50,425 didn't just have to be a hobby. 723 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:57,780 - I met Joey Skaggs August 1, 1994. 724 00:36:57,824 --> 00:36:59,391 He was in the middle of an operation 725 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,089 that he called Dog Meat Soup. 726 00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,612 - A strange letter is arriving 727 00:37:03,656 --> 00:37:05,614 in the mailboxes of animal shelters. 728 00:37:05,658 --> 00:37:07,486 - Animal shelters all across the country... 729 00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:09,705 - The letter, written in broken English, 730 00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:12,839 asks if the shelters would be willing to sell unwanted dogs 731 00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:14,319 for use as food. 732 00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:16,190 According to the letter, 733 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,453 the dogs would be bought for 10 cents a pound, 734 00:37:18,497 --> 00:37:21,587 then canned, and sold here and overseas. 735 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,502 - It may sound outrageous, 736 00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:26,287 but Korean-Americans concede it could be true. 737 00:37:26,331 --> 00:37:29,029 - Someone who thought it up is very, very sick, 738 00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:31,031 so we want to get to the bottom of it. 739 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,685 [dramatic synth music] 740 00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:34,339 - They are companions, 741 00:37:34,382 --> 00:37:36,297 they are protectors, they are pets. 742 00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:38,995 But they are never dinner. 743 00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:54,968 [line trilling] 744 00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:57,013 - Hey, Joey! - How are you, man? 745 00:37:57,057 --> 00:37:59,189 - How you doing? - I'm good. 746 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:01,061 We arrive Friday night, 747 00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:03,672 and I've already scheduled a shoot in Kekaha. 748 00:38:03,716 --> 00:38:05,021 Tom, aloha. 749 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:06,893 Joey Skaggs here, how are you? 750 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:09,417 Actually, why don't you tell me when is a good time 751 00:38:09,461 --> 00:38:11,245 for you to get a bunch of people together 752 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,509 who can talk about what's wrong with GMOs. 753 00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:18,731 I need, you know, something to counter the GMO. 754 00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:20,689 I need conflict in this story. 755 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,474 - Aloha, you've reached the Printmaker. 756 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:24,258 We can't get to the phone right now. 757 00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:25,825 Leave a message. 758 00:38:25,868 --> 00:38:27,435 - I want to talk to you about a hoax. 759 00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:28,610 I've been speaking to Will. 760 00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:30,220 He thought of an actress 761 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:33,006 that might be good for my news commentator. 762 00:38:33,049 --> 00:38:34,703 I need a TV personality. 763 00:38:34,747 --> 00:38:36,488 It's not just a good voice. 764 00:38:36,531 --> 00:38:38,228 He has to keep it secret for about a year, 765 00:38:38,272 --> 00:38:39,404 till the movie's out. 766 00:38:39,447 --> 00:38:40,709 There is no money involved. 767 00:38:40,753 --> 00:38:43,408 This is a low-budget flick. 768 00:38:43,451 --> 00:38:46,889 - [speaking indistinctly] 769 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:49,327 - Well, he'll get exposure. 770 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:50,589 [chuckles] 771 00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:52,112 The crew is all coming. 772 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:57,291 We're all coming to Kauai this Friday. 773 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,728 And I know it's rather late notice, 774 00:38:59,772 --> 00:39:03,515 but I'm looking for an actor or an actress 775 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,865 to play a principal role. 776 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:09,259 [woman speaking indistinctly] 777 00:39:09,303 --> 00:39:10,739 - All right. 778 00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:13,002 All right, thanks. All right, bye. 779 00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:14,830 She has other clients, you know, 780 00:39:14,874 --> 00:39:19,748 and she's rehearsing for a play at 5:30 every day. 781 00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:24,057 - Well, if you direct me and coach me, I could try. 782 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,146 But I don't know. 783 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,193 - Well, you're gonna be, you know, 784 00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:32,021 with the production for the entire time. 785 00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:34,284 So, I mean, you know... - I'm there. 786 00:39:34,328 --> 00:39:35,808 - You're there. 787 00:39:35,851 --> 00:39:38,114 I have to use what I have, you know? 788 00:39:38,158 --> 00:39:42,902 I have to make something out of clay, you know? 789 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:54,392 [loopy music] 790 00:39:54,435 --> 00:40:01,442 ♪ 791 00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:09,232 I've got to get something out of there. 792 00:40:09,276 --> 00:40:10,712 Here you guys go. 793 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:17,806 ♪ 794 00:40:31,516 --> 00:40:33,431 [carolers singing] 795 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:38,827 - ♪ Oh, what fun it is to die in a fiery nuclear way ♪ 796 00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:41,090 ♪ Burning through our skin 797 00:40:41,134 --> 00:40:43,745 ♪ In a 1,000-degree heat 798 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:49,229 - ♪ Oh, what fun it is to die in a fiery burning way, hey ♪ 799 00:40:49,272 --> 00:40:51,361 ♪ Jingle bells, we're going to hell ♪ 800 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:54,495 I learned about Joey because I did Media Studies 801 00:40:54,539 --> 00:40:56,541 at San Francisco State University. 802 00:40:56,584 --> 00:41:00,022 And it was literally just two or so weeks ago 803 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:04,070 that I met him in a bar for a rehearsal to participate 804 00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:06,638 in this demonstration that was happening. 805 00:41:06,681 --> 00:41:09,858 And he asked me, could I dress up as an elf 806 00:41:09,902 --> 00:41:12,774 and maybe sing some dirty Christmas carols. 807 00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:14,689 And so I thought, "Oh, this is cake." 808 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:16,386 I have a couple in the bag. 809 00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:19,259 ♪ There's a place that we all know ♪ 810 00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:22,741 ♪ Mostly shot in video 811 00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:26,266 ♪ A place for sharing genitals 812 00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:29,835 ♪ By sticking them right through the walls ♪ 813 00:41:29,878 --> 00:41:35,928 ♪ Glory holes - [laughing] 814 00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:39,932 - ♪ Stick your dick inside them ♪ 815 00:41:39,975 --> 00:41:41,586 And I think that's all it took, really. 816 00:41:41,629 --> 00:41:45,241 I think that that was how I won Joey over. 817 00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:47,417 - And maybe there's a way of changing those lyrics 818 00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:49,158 so that it has something to do with-- 819 00:41:49,202 --> 00:41:50,464 - I'll think on it, yeah. 820 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:51,596 - Okay, okay. 821 00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:52,945 - Joey? 822 00:41:52,988 --> 00:41:54,163 - Sarah, I hope it's not too late. 823 00:41:54,207 --> 00:41:55,774 Is it too late? 824 00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:58,341 - No, no... [speaking indistinctly] 825 00:41:58,385 --> 00:42:01,214 - I would love you to play a journalist 826 00:42:01,257 --> 00:42:05,174 doing a "60 Minutes," you know, kind of piece, 827 00:42:05,218 --> 00:42:07,350 or a "20/20" kind of piece, 828 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:11,964 profiling certain aspects of Kauai that aren't really known. 829 00:42:12,007 --> 00:42:13,574 But there's no money in this. 830 00:42:13,618 --> 00:42:15,968 I mean, you know, this is like, you know-- 831 00:42:16,011 --> 00:42:19,275 this is just on a whim and a prayer. 832 00:42:19,319 --> 00:42:21,495 Everyone that's working with me is volunteering. 833 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,977 If I can get your passage over there 834 00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:28,676 and put you up and buy your meals, 835 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,637 is that okay? 836 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,596 - Mr. Skaggs, it would be an honor. 837 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,946 - [chuckles] Oh, well, I'm... 838 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:39,339 - I mean, are you kidding? 839 00:42:39,382 --> 00:42:41,123 This is art, this is life. 840 00:42:41,167 --> 00:42:43,038 This is something I believe in. 841 00:42:43,082 --> 00:42:44,910 This is, you know... 842 00:42:44,953 --> 00:42:46,476 - Fantastic. 843 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,479 [upbeat rock music] 844 00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:55,616 ♪ 845 00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:57,966 - Well, I think that the mainstream media 846 00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:00,665 doesn't like the idea of this guy out there 847 00:43:00,708 --> 00:43:04,538 who's basically trying to damage them and expose them. 848 00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:06,888 And I think that probably the establishment 849 00:43:06,932 --> 00:43:08,803 is very much against him 850 00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:11,066 and probably would want to see him thrown in jail, 851 00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:13,939 because he embarrasses these institutions. 852 00:43:13,982 --> 00:43:16,463 - Some of the stuff Joey's done is scary. 853 00:43:16,506 --> 00:43:18,987 And on top of that, you know, it's-- 854 00:43:19,031 --> 00:43:21,729 there are lots of authorities, political powers, 855 00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:23,513 people who are gonna sue you. 856 00:43:23,557 --> 00:43:25,907 The legal profession is industrialized as well, 857 00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:28,257 and they can take action against you. 858 00:43:28,301 --> 00:43:31,347 [man speaking indistinctly over PA] 859 00:43:45,144 --> 00:43:48,190 [alert buzzing] 860 00:43:56,808 --> 00:43:59,462 [laughter] 861 00:44:08,167 --> 00:44:10,778 - Is that the spot in Hanalei Bay where you, 862 00:44:10,822 --> 00:44:12,780 there's like that beautiful snorkeling, 863 00:44:12,824 --> 00:44:17,263 but then there's a really abrupt drop in the reef? 864 00:44:17,306 --> 00:44:18,743 - That's further out. 865 00:44:18,786 --> 00:44:19,961 That's where the surfers go. 866 00:44:20,005 --> 00:44:21,223 That's where the break is. 867 00:44:21,267 --> 00:44:22,877 We'll go out there. 868 00:44:22,921 --> 00:44:25,706 I windsurfed from that spot to California, 869 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,142 or so I said I did. 870 00:44:27,186 --> 00:44:32,713 And I had a band and a big farewell party 871 00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:34,715 and a Hawaiian blessing. 872 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:37,718 [upbeat music] 873 00:44:37,762 --> 00:44:43,332 ♪ 874 00:44:43,376 --> 00:44:46,727 I had a stand-in double, shaved to look like me. 875 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,343 - Cal or bust? [laughs] - Yeah. 876 00:45:02,525 --> 00:45:07,313 - He made it around and came back to shore. 877 00:45:10,272 --> 00:45:13,232 And we met at the bar and were having a laugh, 878 00:45:13,275 --> 00:45:16,583 and everyone believed that I took off for California 879 00:45:16,626 --> 00:45:20,108 on the longest, you know, windsurfing expedition ever. 880 00:45:20,152 --> 00:45:23,721 - 29-year-old Jay Skaggs shoved off for California today. 881 00:45:23,764 --> 00:45:25,723 That's not a big deal, 882 00:45:25,766 --> 00:45:28,290 except for Skaggs is trying to make the 2,500-mile journey 883 00:45:28,334 --> 00:45:30,249 on a windsurfer. 884 00:45:30,292 --> 00:45:32,817 - And the local media here got really bent out of shape. 885 00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:35,080 The journalists didn't appreciate it. 886 00:45:35,123 --> 00:45:38,083 [upbeat music] 887 00:45:38,126 --> 00:45:45,177 ♪ 888 00:45:54,186 --> 00:45:59,321 [laughter] 889 00:45:59,365 --> 00:46:01,846 - How's it going, man? - Great. 890 00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:04,936 [indistinct chatter] 891 00:46:09,331 --> 00:46:10,637 - Welcome home. 892 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,030 - Sarah. - Hi, Sarah, how are you? 893 00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:13,901 - Thank you all for coming. 894 00:46:13,945 --> 00:46:16,251 Thank you for having us. 895 00:46:16,295 --> 00:46:21,517 What I'm trying to do is create a story 896 00:46:21,561 --> 00:46:26,087 that has an element of plausibility 897 00:46:26,131 --> 00:46:29,221 and yet has a lie in it. 898 00:46:29,264 --> 00:46:32,006 So all of you are speaking your truth, 899 00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:35,053 but you are taking part in a prank. 900 00:46:35,096 --> 00:46:38,491 I'm just trying to get anti-GMO, pro-GMO. 901 00:46:38,534 --> 00:46:40,885 But my piece really is about 902 00:46:40,928 --> 00:46:46,542 how science controls inventions and patents, 903 00:46:46,586 --> 00:46:49,545 how the corporations own it. 904 00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:51,547 I want a strong opinion from your side. 905 00:46:51,591 --> 00:46:53,723 I want a strong opinion from the other side. 906 00:46:53,767 --> 00:46:55,987 I'm not making up my mind. 907 00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:58,380 I want to present opinions. 908 00:46:58,424 --> 00:47:00,774 - Okay, speed all around. 909 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:02,558 And, Sarah, go. 910 00:47:02,602 --> 00:47:04,778 - I'm here with members of a local organization 911 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,041 called GMO-Free Kauai. 912 00:47:07,085 --> 00:47:09,348 I'm standing here with Ed Coll, 913 00:47:09,391 --> 00:47:12,786 A college professor and activist here in Hawaii. 914 00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:15,310 - It's a fallacy that science belongs 915 00:47:15,354 --> 00:47:17,095 to these chemical companies. 916 00:47:17,138 --> 00:47:20,489 - This is giant corporations specifically own those seeds 917 00:47:20,533 --> 00:47:22,187 and patent them. 918 00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:24,667 - People became concerned that all this information, 919 00:47:24,711 --> 00:47:27,018 they could use it for purposes 920 00:47:27,061 --> 00:47:30,499 that are not necessarily in the public good. 921 00:47:30,543 --> 00:47:32,023 - In a fishing village, 922 00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:33,763 you always take only what you need, 923 00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:35,809 and if there's any extra, you share. 924 00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:39,073 - They talk about the corn or the corn spray. 925 00:47:39,117 --> 00:47:41,336 What about what the sugar used to spray? 926 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:44,252 They used to spray. Who knows what they used to spray? 927 00:47:44,296 --> 00:47:46,776 - Long term, nobody has the wisdom 928 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:48,778 to conduct this thing safely. 929 00:47:51,216 --> 00:47:52,913 - How you doing? 930 00:47:52,957 --> 00:47:55,568 - I'm here with Doctors Ing and Croft, 931 00:47:55,611 --> 00:47:58,266 who are overseeing some of the research being done 932 00:47:58,310 --> 00:48:03,315 on Joe Howard in terms of his tooth regeneration. 933 00:48:03,358 --> 00:48:05,012 - They regenerate. 934 00:48:05,056 --> 00:48:07,362 I lose them constantly. 935 00:48:07,406 --> 00:48:09,843 But there are teeth right behind. 936 00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:11,366 - Yeah, I see that. 937 00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:15,718 - And they just keep coming forward. 938 00:48:15,762 --> 00:48:19,331 - I kind of see Joey as this conductor 939 00:48:19,374 --> 00:48:21,899 of this orchestra of chaos. 940 00:48:21,942 --> 00:48:25,903 [chuckles] I mean, this is unlike any symphony 941 00:48:25,946 --> 00:48:27,426 that has ever been heard. 942 00:48:27,469 --> 00:48:29,515 [funky rock music] 943 00:48:29,558 --> 00:48:31,343 - We cover every walk of life. 944 00:48:31,386 --> 00:48:36,478 Doctors, Jonas Salk, sports figures, politicians. 945 00:48:36,522 --> 00:48:40,526 [crowd jeering] 946 00:48:40,569 --> 00:48:42,354 They're gonna try to get rid of anybody 947 00:48:42,397 --> 00:48:44,008 that isn't to their liking. 948 00:48:44,051 --> 00:48:47,750 [indistinct shouting] 949 00:48:47,794 --> 00:48:53,234 - In 1976, I had a celebrity sperm auction. 950 00:48:53,278 --> 00:48:58,631 Unfortunately, last night Celebrity Sperm was broken into, 951 00:48:58,674 --> 00:49:02,896 and celebrity sperm was stolen. 952 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:04,289 [laughs] 953 00:49:04,332 --> 00:49:05,551 It was right here. 954 00:49:05,594 --> 00:49:07,292 Everything was totally staged. 955 00:49:07,335 --> 00:49:08,293 - Who's sperm did you want? 956 00:49:08,336 --> 00:49:09,642 - Dylan. 957 00:49:09,685 --> 00:49:10,948 - Dylan? - Yeah, this man here. 958 00:49:10,991 --> 00:49:12,471 - I decided Bob Dylan. 959 00:49:12,514 --> 00:49:14,429 So I dressed like Bob Dylan, 960 00:49:14,473 --> 00:49:17,432 and I went there looking for Bob Dylan's sperm. 961 00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:18,651 - There was nothing there. 962 00:49:18,694 --> 00:49:20,087 It was a friend's apartment. 963 00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:22,089 So I kept them out by saying, 964 00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:26,311 "Oh, sperm's been stolen, auction's canceled." 965 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:29,662 - I want to introduce Sunshine. 966 00:49:29,705 --> 00:49:32,056 Sunshine is an artificially inseminated child. 967 00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:34,580 She was told that she was artificially inseminated. 968 00:49:34,623 --> 00:49:36,799 Well, my task was to appear in videos 969 00:49:36,843 --> 00:49:39,846 protesting Joey's celebrity sperm bank, 970 00:49:39,889 --> 00:49:41,935 to be a believable lawyer. 971 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:44,068 Since then, she has been looking for her father. 972 00:49:44,111 --> 00:49:48,550 She has been on the verge of catatonia. 973 00:49:48,594 --> 00:49:50,552 I don't remember any rehearsal. 974 00:49:50,596 --> 00:49:53,468 I met the young woman who was playing my client. 975 00:49:53,512 --> 00:49:55,209 I might've had a conversation with her 976 00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:57,342 about the circumstances. 977 00:49:57,385 --> 00:49:58,647 - It was really an improv. 978 00:49:58,691 --> 00:50:00,562 It was really like Second City. 979 00:50:00,606 --> 00:50:03,174 Everybody had their own part. 980 00:50:03,217 --> 00:50:05,132 And that was all they were told. 981 00:50:05,176 --> 00:50:06,960 - I want to know about this because it's very dangerous, 982 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:08,483 what's going down here, very dangerous! 983 00:50:08,527 --> 00:50:11,791 - He controlled things from a distance. 984 00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:14,272 But he let the actors-- 985 00:50:14,315 --> 00:50:18,145 he really let them have their way with the script. 986 00:50:18,189 --> 00:50:19,451 There was no script. 987 00:50:19,494 --> 00:50:21,061 There was never a script. 988 00:50:21,105 --> 00:50:22,541 - I'm trying to, you know-- 989 00:50:22,584 --> 00:50:25,500 what's the best way of looking at this? 990 00:50:25,544 --> 00:50:30,592 You can turn to the camera and say, "We're about to examine..." 991 00:50:30,636 --> 00:50:32,116 - We're about to or we already have? 992 00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:33,900 - No, we're about to, I guess. 993 00:50:33,943 --> 00:50:35,902 That'd be nice, about to examine. 994 00:50:35,945 --> 00:50:38,644 - My only thing is that we've got better questions to ask 995 00:50:38,687 --> 00:50:40,863 if they've already had the examination. 996 00:50:40,907 --> 00:50:44,737 - I'm here with Doctors Ing and Croft, 997 00:50:44,780 --> 00:50:47,261 two of the professionals who are overseeing 998 00:50:47,305 --> 00:50:50,830 some of the research being done on Joe Howard, 999 00:50:50,873 --> 00:50:55,008 specifically in terms of his tooth regeneration 1000 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,618 that's going on. 1001 00:50:56,662 --> 00:50:59,752 I'm sorry, you guys, I am out of--I need to-- 1002 00:50:59,795 --> 00:51:02,059 This is, like, out of nowhere to me, 1003 00:51:02,102 --> 00:51:03,625 and I don't know what I'm talking about. 1004 00:51:03,669 --> 00:51:05,018 - The way that was, that was, you know. 1005 00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:06,498 - Oh, well, it was, but I figured-- 1006 00:51:06,541 --> 00:51:08,195 I thought that this wasn't the first time. 1007 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,892 Is this the first time you're ever going to see him? 1008 00:51:09,936 --> 00:51:11,329 - Yeah, that's what I thought. 1009 00:51:11,372 --> 00:51:13,592 I mean, that's what I thought. 1010 00:51:16,247 --> 00:51:18,858 - [sighs] I'm sorry, guys. I'm losing it. 1011 00:51:18,901 --> 00:51:19,859 What do you want? 1012 00:51:19,902 --> 00:51:21,469 Any other...? 1013 00:51:21,513 --> 00:51:22,818 - Coming right from the beginning again. 1014 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:25,952 - Mm-hmm. 1015 00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:29,651 - Well, I was hoping to be the scientific advisor. 1016 00:51:29,695 --> 00:51:31,131 [chuckles] 1017 00:51:31,175 --> 00:51:32,785 And so I started thinking all sorts 1018 00:51:32,828 --> 00:51:34,874 of elaborate ideas about-- 1019 00:51:34,917 --> 00:51:37,355 And Joey told me what the basic idea was, 1020 00:51:37,398 --> 00:51:39,008 that there was shark teeth. 1021 00:51:39,052 --> 00:51:41,098 The guy had grown teeth, yak yak yak yak yak. 1022 00:51:41,141 --> 00:51:43,883 So I started thinking, "What's the most plausible way 1023 00:51:43,926 --> 00:51:45,667 of explaining that scientifically?" 1024 00:51:45,711 --> 00:51:48,496 And I came up with some nice scientific papers. 1025 00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:50,281 Yeah, this is possible. 1026 00:51:50,324 --> 00:51:52,152 Yeah, it's kind of on the edge of plausibility, 1027 00:51:52,196 --> 00:51:54,807 it's a bit wacky, but, you know, it'll probably pass. 1028 00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:58,202 Then when I told him, in Hawaii, this is what the process is, 1029 00:51:58,245 --> 00:51:59,812 he was horrified. 1030 00:51:59,855 --> 00:52:02,902 It was just-- it wasn't silly enough. 1031 00:52:02,945 --> 00:52:05,296 We use sharks as a source 1032 00:52:05,339 --> 00:52:09,474 of sustainable and renewable stem cells. 1033 00:52:09,517 --> 00:52:11,650 - Stop for one second. 1034 00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:12,955 Do me a favor. - Yeah? 1035 00:52:12,999 --> 00:52:14,566 - Lie. 1036 00:52:14,609 --> 00:52:17,656 You're too honest. 1037 00:52:17,699 --> 00:52:20,180 - [laughing] I'm lying-- I'm lying my ass off here. 1038 00:52:20,224 --> 00:52:21,529 - I know you're lying. 1039 00:52:21,573 --> 00:52:23,183 But here's a lie that I think-- 1040 00:52:23,227 --> 00:52:25,403 - Larry, don't mess with your hair, please. 1041 00:52:25,446 --> 00:52:28,188 - The lie is, if we can regenerate our teeth 1042 00:52:28,232 --> 00:52:30,669 like a shark can regenerate their teeth, 1043 00:52:30,712 --> 00:52:33,411 then we can revolutionize the whole dental industry. 1044 00:52:33,454 --> 00:52:35,108 - Yeah. 1045 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,936 - And the point of what we're trying to do 1046 00:52:36,979 --> 00:52:39,504 is to make it so that humans can now regenerate teeth. 1047 00:52:39,547 --> 00:52:40,505 That's it. 1048 00:52:40,548 --> 00:52:42,202 - Forever. 1049 00:52:42,246 --> 00:52:44,422 - That's what it's about. Fuck the shark. 1050 00:52:44,465 --> 00:52:46,728 I mean, it's the ability to regenerate teeth constantly. 1051 00:52:46,772 --> 00:52:47,816 - Oh, okay. 1052 00:52:47,860 --> 00:52:49,731 - You're doing a good job. 1053 00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:52,081 You are. 1054 00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:54,214 Dr. Croft, talk to me about the addition 1055 00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:58,044 of shark stem cells in your research. 1056 00:52:58,087 --> 00:53:00,351 - The teeth re-grow in sharks, 1057 00:53:00,394 --> 00:53:03,441 and once a tooth falls out, another one grows back. 1058 00:53:03,484 --> 00:53:05,269 So if we can harness the ability 1059 00:53:05,312 --> 00:53:08,054 that sharks have to re-grow their own teeth, 1060 00:53:08,097 --> 00:53:11,275 we could do the same thing in humans. 1061 00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:14,060 And so this would revolutionize the dental industry 1062 00:53:14,103 --> 00:53:17,324 and would be a fantastic thing for many people. 1063 00:53:17,368 --> 00:53:19,021 [giggling] Sorry. 1064 00:53:19,065 --> 00:53:20,414 - There's such a thin line 1065 00:53:20,458 --> 00:53:22,851 between, you know, what's plausible 1066 00:53:22,895 --> 00:53:24,375 and what's, like, "Get out of here. 1067 00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:25,898 I don't believe any of this." 1068 00:53:25,941 --> 00:53:26,899 - Yeah. 1069 00:53:26,942 --> 00:53:29,728 - Is it too much ham? 1070 00:53:29,771 --> 00:53:31,033 - Yeah. 1071 00:53:31,077 --> 00:53:32,426 [laughing] Too much ham. 1072 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:33,427 - We'll see. 1073 00:53:33,471 --> 00:53:35,690 [laughter] 1074 00:53:35,734 --> 00:53:37,301 We'll see. 1075 00:54:00,541 --> 00:54:03,588 [phone ringing] 1076 00:54:09,028 --> 00:54:11,944 - Comacocoon, may I help you? 1077 00:54:11,987 --> 00:54:13,728 Yes. 1078 00:54:13,772 --> 00:54:15,513 Yes, you got our press release? 1079 00:54:15,556 --> 00:54:17,254 Mm-hmm. 1080 00:54:17,297 --> 00:54:19,430 And what kind of vacation were you looking for? 1081 00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:22,433 [pleasant music] 1082 00:54:22,476 --> 00:54:28,830 ♪ 1083 00:54:28,874 --> 00:54:32,747 - ♪ Dreams... 1084 00:54:32,791 --> 00:54:35,402 - Now there is Comacocoon. 1085 00:54:35,446 --> 00:54:40,189 And with recent technological advancements made 1086 00:54:40,233 --> 00:54:42,366 in the field of anesthesiology, 1087 00:54:42,409 --> 00:54:44,498 we can now knock you out. 1088 00:54:44,542 --> 00:54:46,805 They'll hypnotize you and give you, you know, 1089 00:54:46,848 --> 00:54:48,763 a computer-generated dream. 1090 00:54:48,807 --> 00:54:50,287 You could be a rock star. 1091 00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:51,897 You could, you know, be, Don Juan. 1092 00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:54,247 You could do your own personal fantasy. 1093 00:54:54,291 --> 00:54:56,858 And we could give you a tan while you were out, you know, 1094 00:54:56,902 --> 00:55:00,340 You could quit smoking, minor surgeries. 1095 00:55:00,384 --> 00:55:05,084 ♪ 1096 00:55:05,127 --> 00:55:07,521 I always try to do something that's challenging to me. 1097 00:55:07,565 --> 00:55:09,088 I don't want to do the same thing. 1098 00:55:09,131 --> 00:55:10,568 And I thought, "Well, why don't I try 1099 00:55:10,611 --> 00:55:13,179 to do two hoaxes at once?" 1100 00:55:13,222 --> 00:55:16,182 [Western music] 1101 00:55:16,225 --> 00:55:21,448 ♪ 1102 00:55:21,492 --> 00:55:23,189 Depending on the condition of your scalp, 1103 00:55:23,232 --> 00:55:24,886 if you have no scars or birthmarks, 1104 00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:26,627 a full head of hair. 1105 00:55:26,671 --> 00:55:28,368 If you were in a high-risk profession, 1106 00:55:28,412 --> 00:55:30,544 I would give you X amount, $1,000 dollars, 1107 00:55:30,588 --> 00:55:33,068 and upon your untimely demise, 1108 00:55:33,112 --> 00:55:35,288 I had ownership of your scalp. 1109 00:55:38,944 --> 00:55:41,903 On this side of the room, I'm Dr. Chenango, 1110 00:55:41,947 --> 00:55:43,557 I'm curing baldness. 1111 00:55:43,601 --> 00:55:46,081 On this side of the room, I'm Dr. Schlafer, 1112 00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,257 giving sleep dream vacations. 1113 00:55:52,087 --> 00:55:53,567 And then when the time was right, 1114 00:55:53,611 --> 00:55:55,308 I reveal that it was a hoax, 1115 00:55:55,352 --> 00:55:56,440 and "The New York Times'" Mark Dery 1116 00:55:56,483 --> 00:55:57,832 did a wonderful piece. 1117 00:55:57,876 --> 00:56:03,011 ♪ 1118 00:56:03,055 --> 00:56:04,709 There's a gray area. 1119 00:56:04,752 --> 00:56:06,493 There's a time when you do the performance, 1120 00:56:06,537 --> 00:56:08,321 and it's going out there. 1121 00:56:08,365 --> 00:56:11,629 And then when you do the exposé, and you think it's over. 1122 00:56:11,672 --> 00:56:14,936 Well, there are people who don't ever get the exposé. 1123 00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:18,549 So I get a phone call from an Italian journalist. 1124 00:56:18,592 --> 00:56:19,593 "Dr. Schlafer?" 1125 00:56:19,637 --> 00:56:22,030 So I go, "Hello?" 1126 00:56:22,074 --> 00:56:27,166 "My name is Sylvia Kramer. I work for 'il Giornale.' 1127 00:56:27,209 --> 00:56:30,735 I'd like to do a story about your operation." 1128 00:56:30,778 --> 00:56:33,564 - I said, "Well, look, come to my home, 1129 00:56:33,607 --> 00:56:38,307 and I'll tell you a story that you'll really enjoy." 1130 00:56:38,351 --> 00:56:40,048 I was gonna tell her the truth. 1131 00:56:40,092 --> 00:56:41,485 She calls me back 10 minutes later, 1132 00:56:41,528 --> 00:56:42,747 "Dr. Schlafer, I'm running late." 1133 00:56:42,790 --> 00:56:43,965 I said, "Fine, no problem." 1134 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:45,489 Then she calls me again, 1135 00:56:45,532 --> 00:56:47,360 "I'm running late, I'm running late." 1136 00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:49,014 And then finally the last time she calls, she says, 1137 00:56:49,057 --> 00:56:52,452 "Dr. Schlafer, I'm sorry, but I can't make it. 1138 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:55,455 Can we do the interview on the phone?" 1139 00:56:55,499 --> 00:56:57,457 Lazy bitch. 1140 00:56:57,501 --> 00:56:59,546 You know, I was gonna tell you the truth but, you know... 1141 00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:00,982 I'm not gonna tell you the truth, 1142 00:57:01,026 --> 00:57:02,723 I'm just gonna continue the hoax. 1143 00:57:17,042 --> 00:57:19,479 After it hits the Italian news media, 1144 00:57:19,523 --> 00:57:22,874 I get a phone call from the competition. 1145 00:57:22,917 --> 00:57:26,007 "Joey, Joey, you screwed Sylvia Kramer! 1146 00:57:26,051 --> 00:57:27,792 "We almost fell for the story, too, 1147 00:57:27,835 --> 00:57:30,838 but we read 'The New York Times.'" 1148 00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:38,846 You think you know when it's over, 1149 00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:40,500 and it's not over. 1150 00:57:40,544 --> 00:57:42,502 It's not over. 1151 00:57:42,546 --> 00:57:46,332 Because the truth is really the hardest thing to get to. 1152 00:57:46,375 --> 00:57:48,290 - Okay, so, what do you think of this? 1153 00:57:48,334 --> 00:57:50,075 - I would make the conflict 1154 00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:56,821 between morality and science up front, more up front. 1155 00:57:56,864 --> 00:57:58,779 And then get into, 1156 00:57:58,823 --> 00:58:01,652 "But open-sourcing science has its own issues," you know? 1157 00:58:01,695 --> 00:58:04,611 I mean, I have to think about this, because... 1158 00:58:04,655 --> 00:58:07,179 - Can we do it again? - Yep. 1159 00:58:07,222 --> 00:58:10,922 - The operations and implications of this research 1160 00:58:10,965 --> 00:58:13,141 and its open-source methodology. 1161 00:58:13,185 --> 00:58:14,839 - Is this a news report? 1162 00:58:14,882 --> 00:58:17,537 - It was. 1163 00:58:17,581 --> 00:58:20,018 - So maybe we don't even need that? 1164 00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:21,628 - That's what I'm thinking. 1165 00:58:21,672 --> 00:58:24,457 I think that this intro is so specific. 1166 00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:25,850 - Yeah. 1167 00:58:25,893 --> 00:58:27,547 - Taking you directly into something. 1168 00:58:27,591 --> 00:58:29,593 I mean, that's what we thought it was earlier. 1169 00:58:29,636 --> 00:58:31,595 - Right. 1170 00:58:31,638 --> 00:58:33,118 - There's a great big difference 1171 00:58:33,161 --> 00:58:34,772 between doing what I do, which is a prank, 1172 00:58:34,815 --> 00:58:36,121 and doing a film. 1173 00:58:36,164 --> 00:58:37,992 I have to be improvisational. 1174 00:58:38,036 --> 00:58:39,994 I have to go with the flow. 1175 00:58:40,038 --> 00:58:43,868 So whatever it is, I've got to be able to make it happen, 1176 00:58:43,911 --> 00:58:46,958 and so it's different than a film. 1177 00:58:47,001 --> 00:58:49,482 You have a script, you know, you have the actors, 1178 00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:50,918 you're paying these people, you know. 1179 00:58:50,962 --> 00:58:54,748 It's all lit, takes hours. 1180 00:58:54,792 --> 00:58:56,620 Improvisational theater, guerrilla theater, 1181 00:58:56,663 --> 00:59:01,799 culture jamming, hoaxes, different ball game. 1182 00:59:01,842 --> 00:59:03,583 So... 1183 00:59:03,627 --> 00:59:07,195 - I'm having a difficult time 1184 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,589 seeing if that's where we're going to end up. 1185 00:59:09,633 --> 00:59:12,679 I am not--I don't have a lot of clarity yet, 1186 00:59:12,723 --> 00:59:18,032 if this is gonna be a documentary or a news report. 1187 00:59:18,076 --> 00:59:21,601 - We still don't have a timeline on this thing, you know. 1188 00:59:21,645 --> 00:59:24,517 It's still in a nonlinear form, 1189 00:59:24,561 --> 00:59:26,563 and we still haven't figured out 1190 00:59:26,606 --> 00:59:30,349 where the actual punches are gonna be thrown yet. 1191 00:59:38,444 --> 00:59:39,793 - Warren. 1192 00:59:39,837 --> 00:59:41,621 - Hey, how are you? 1193 00:59:41,665 --> 00:59:43,318 - I'm good, how are you? 1194 00:59:43,362 --> 00:59:46,060 I'm gonna say this now, to you personally, 1195 00:59:46,104 --> 00:59:47,888 so I'd rather it be in person, 1196 00:59:47,932 --> 00:59:50,935 but this is all about, you know, high-tech and experiments 1197 00:59:50,978 --> 00:59:54,634 with genetics and gene splicing and all that. 1198 00:59:54,678 --> 00:59:57,506 Are you a willing guy to talk about the possibility 1199 00:59:57,550 --> 01:00:02,511 or the hopefulness of having reconnective nerve tissue done 1200 01:00:02,555 --> 01:00:04,862 through stem cell research? 1201 01:00:27,232 --> 01:00:30,191 Warren, who broke his back 1202 01:00:30,235 --> 01:00:33,064 in a horrible accident in the ocean 1203 01:00:33,107 --> 01:00:36,023 and he has spinal cord damage, 1204 01:00:36,067 --> 01:00:40,245 he comes in, and he's the savior for the piece, 1205 01:00:40,288 --> 01:00:45,293 because he takes the attention away from my shark teeth. 1206 01:00:52,779 --> 01:00:54,520 I want everyone to have a piece to say, 1207 01:00:54,563 --> 01:00:56,696 especially Warren. 1208 01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:59,481 And he says, at the table... 1209 01:00:59,525 --> 01:01:06,445 - If stem cell research can make it possible 1210 01:01:06,488 --> 01:01:11,624 for someone who has been in a wheelchair for 20 years 1211 01:01:11,668 --> 01:01:14,279 to be able to stand up 1212 01:01:14,322 --> 01:01:18,587 and walk to the bathroom... 1213 01:01:21,765 --> 01:01:26,334 I can't tell you how wonderful that would be. 1214 01:01:26,378 --> 01:01:30,599 - Warren carries that whole conversation. 1215 01:01:30,643 --> 01:01:32,514 It's all about that. 1216 01:01:32,558 --> 01:01:35,082 Forget about the ethics of doing the research. 1217 01:01:35,126 --> 01:01:36,693 I need it. 1218 01:01:36,736 --> 01:01:39,565 - This is heartfelt and the truth. 1219 01:01:39,608 --> 01:01:43,700 This particular hoax, for me, is personal. 1220 01:01:43,743 --> 01:01:46,833 It's not just Joey's art. 1221 01:01:46,877 --> 01:01:51,185 - He's brought a lot friends together 1222 01:01:51,229 --> 01:01:55,276 who have heartfelt thoughts on these subjects 1223 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,757 that originally were just the setup. 1224 01:01:57,801 --> 01:01:59,628 Now they're the topic. 1225 01:01:59,672 --> 01:02:01,979 - Now, to me. it's more plausible. 1226 01:02:02,022 --> 01:02:04,633 And I have to have an element of plausibility. 1227 01:02:04,677 --> 01:02:06,723 I mean, it's so fucking far out anyway. 1228 01:02:06,766 --> 01:02:09,856 But, you know, now it's concealed. 1229 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:11,553 They've got it. 1230 01:02:11,597 --> 01:02:13,904 And we convince them the next 10 or 15 minutes 1231 01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:16,994 to accept it and move on, and see the bigger picture. 1232 01:02:17,037 --> 01:02:18,952 We got it. 1233 01:02:18,996 --> 01:02:24,610 This particular piece really is a stand-by-itself piece. 1234 01:02:24,653 --> 01:02:26,699 You know, whatever the length ends up being. 1235 01:02:26,743 --> 01:02:28,701 If it's a half an hour, you know, great. 1236 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,659 It's really a show. 1237 01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:34,925 And we never have to reveal the fact that it's a hoax. 1238 01:02:34,968 --> 01:02:37,971 And we're gonna make this into its own film 1239 01:02:38,015 --> 01:02:40,887 and then put this out in the world. 1240 01:02:40,931 --> 01:02:42,628 We submit it to film festivals 1241 01:02:42,671 --> 01:02:44,978 as a mini documentary. 1242 01:02:45,022 --> 01:02:47,415 If they air it, if they accept it and air it, 1243 01:02:47,459 --> 01:02:50,941 and no one says that it's, you know, bullshit, 1244 01:02:50,984 --> 01:02:52,594 fantastic. 1245 01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:03,257 The tourists don't know anything. 1246 01:03:03,301 --> 01:03:05,999 To them, it's a beautiful, idyllic, tropical island. 1247 01:03:06,043 --> 01:03:07,827 - It's also the most remote 1248 01:03:07,871 --> 01:03:10,569 geographical archipelago on Earth. 1249 01:03:10,612 --> 01:03:14,268 - We have a secret military base doing underwater research 1250 01:03:14,312 --> 01:03:16,096 with a submarine base out here. 1251 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,490 There may or may not be nuclear weapons. 1252 01:03:18,533 --> 01:03:21,493 [dramatic music] 1253 01:03:21,536 --> 01:03:23,103 ♪ 1254 01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:25,062 - It's a fallacy 1255 01:03:25,105 --> 01:03:27,760 that science belongs to these chemical companies. 1256 01:03:27,804 --> 01:03:29,675 The science belongs to all of us. 1257 01:03:29,718 --> 01:03:32,765 - I try not to think of any ethical ramifications. 1258 01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:35,420 It's not often you see shark's teeth in a human, 1259 01:03:35,463 --> 01:03:39,598 but, you know, they're functioning perfectly. 1260 01:03:39,641 --> 01:03:45,822 - If open-source science can make it possible 1261 01:03:45,865 --> 01:03:48,563 for someone who has been in a wheelchair 1262 01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:50,914 to be able to stand up, 1263 01:03:50,957 --> 01:03:54,395 I can't tell you how wonderful that would be. 1264 01:03:54,439 --> 01:03:56,484 I would say go ahead and play God. 1265 01:03:56,528 --> 01:03:58,530 - This is a huge Pandora's box. 1266 01:03:58,573 --> 01:04:01,838 Nobody has the wisdom to conduct this thing safely. 1267 01:04:24,991 --> 01:04:27,559 [crowd cheering] 1268 01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:31,519 [drumming, chanting] 1269 01:04:31,563 --> 01:04:36,133 [indistinct chanting] 1270 01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:39,571 - Pass the bill! Pass the bill! 1271 01:04:47,057 --> 01:04:48,841 - Sarah. - Hello. 1272 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:50,277 - Hey, there you are. 1273 01:04:50,321 --> 01:04:51,800 - Hey. 1274 01:04:51,844 --> 01:04:52,801 - Can you see me? 1275 01:04:52,845 --> 01:04:53,977 - Good to see you. 1276 01:04:54,020 --> 01:04:55,674 - Good to see you. 1277 01:04:55,717 --> 01:04:57,763 Your hair is longer. 1278 01:04:57,806 --> 01:04:59,765 It looks good. 1279 01:04:59,808 --> 01:05:03,334 - Yeah. 1280 01:05:03,377 --> 01:05:06,554 I imagine your beard is probably longer, too, 1281 01:05:06,598 --> 01:05:11,820 but right now it's half frame. 1282 01:05:11,864 --> 01:05:15,389 I've got a little bad news. 1283 01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:16,651 - Yeah? 1284 01:05:16,695 --> 01:05:19,132 - Holly Shorts got back to us. 1285 01:05:19,176 --> 01:05:20,873 - Uh-huh? 1286 01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:24,572 - And they did not accept "Pandora's Hope." 1287 01:05:24,616 --> 01:05:26,531 - That's okay. 1288 01:05:26,574 --> 01:05:30,927 - So they sent consolation... 1289 01:05:30,970 --> 01:05:33,103 [chuckles] Saying that it was a record year. 1290 01:05:33,146 --> 01:05:36,671 They had 1,400 submissions. 1291 01:05:36,715 --> 01:05:38,325 So one more down. 1292 01:05:38,369 --> 01:05:40,806 - Right, that's why it's a shotgun approach. 1293 01:05:40,849 --> 01:05:45,115 You know, we do a whole lot, and, you know... 1294 01:05:45,158 --> 01:05:48,118 it's the odds. 1295 01:05:48,161 --> 01:05:49,684 - Yeah. 1296 01:05:49,728 --> 01:05:52,122 - It's just a waiting game, Sarah, you know. 1297 01:05:52,165 --> 01:05:55,603 I said to everyone when I did the hoax, 1298 01:05:55,647 --> 01:05:57,692 the hoax part is the easy part, 1299 01:05:57,736 --> 01:05:59,390 and the hard part is waiting 1300 01:05:59,433 --> 01:06:01,914 to see if anybody, you know, bites. 1301 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,221 - There's no P. 1302 01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:06,136 It's not here. 1303 01:06:06,179 --> 01:06:08,747 They picked a lot of films, but we're not one of them. 1304 01:06:12,577 --> 01:06:13,970 Oh, well. 1305 01:06:16,537 --> 01:06:20,237 - The big one I'm hoping for is the Hawaii Film Festival. 1306 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,543 That's the one I hope we make it into. 1307 01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:24,676 That's when the shit will really hit the fan, 1308 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:28,375 because everyone is gonna realize who these people are. 1309 01:06:28,419 --> 01:06:29,855 You know? 1310 01:06:29,898 --> 01:06:33,380 And the local press will go bananas. 1311 01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:36,905 It'll probably go wire service, AP, 1312 01:06:36,949 --> 01:06:39,212 which will then make it a global story. 1313 01:06:39,256 --> 01:06:42,737 Maybe we can make it a newsworthy event 1314 01:06:42,781 --> 01:06:45,305 and get some media coverage that way. 1315 01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:48,004 I'm just concerned that our friends 1316 01:06:48,047 --> 01:06:50,528 will laugh their asses off, and then it's all over. 1317 01:06:50,571 --> 01:06:52,182 We've come this far, 1318 01:06:52,225 --> 01:06:55,663 and we really don't want to blow it at this stage. 1319 01:06:55,707 --> 01:06:59,885 All we have to do is get these film festivals covered. 1320 01:06:59,928 --> 01:07:02,844 ["That's Amore" playing] 1321 01:07:02,888 --> 01:07:09,938 ♪ 1322 01:07:12,550 --> 01:07:15,118 - Mama, Papa! 1323 01:07:15,161 --> 01:07:17,424 ♪ 1324 01:07:17,468 --> 01:07:21,080 [singing] 1325 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,126 ♪ 1326 01:07:23,169 --> 01:07:28,087 [cell phone ringing] 1327 01:07:28,131 --> 01:07:31,482 - Hello? 1328 01:07:31,525 --> 01:07:32,700 Hello? 1329 01:07:32,744 --> 01:07:34,137 Can you hear me? 1330 01:07:34,180 --> 01:07:35,355 Hello? 1331 01:07:35,399 --> 01:07:37,183 Sarah, hi. 1332 01:07:46,540 --> 01:07:49,848 We heard from the Hawaii International Film Festival. 1333 01:07:53,808 --> 01:07:56,855 - No? 1334 01:07:56,898 --> 01:07:59,292 Oh, well. 1335 01:07:59,336 --> 01:08:01,599 [dog whimpering] - I'll read it to you. 1336 01:08:04,341 --> 01:08:07,953 - What do you say about that? 1337 01:08:07,996 --> 01:08:09,520 Huh? 1338 01:08:09,563 --> 01:08:11,174 It's okay. 1339 01:08:21,314 --> 01:08:23,273 It's just a difficult challenge. 1340 01:08:23,316 --> 01:08:25,927 And I'm, so far, you know, disappointed 1341 01:08:25,971 --> 01:08:30,062 because I haven't been accepted into film festivals, 1342 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,238 but I can understand that, because, you know, 1343 01:08:32,282 --> 01:08:34,762 it's not that it's a fantastic film. 1344 01:08:34,806 --> 01:08:37,591 It's, you know, a bunch of people 1345 01:08:37,635 --> 01:08:40,638 talking about serious issues, 1346 01:08:40,681 --> 01:08:42,683 which could be made, I guess, into a great film 1347 01:08:42,727 --> 01:08:44,294 by a great filmmaker. 1348 01:08:44,337 --> 01:08:46,861 But I don't consider myself a filmmaker. 1349 01:08:46,905 --> 01:08:50,387 I feel like I locked myself into a corner, 1350 01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:52,215 trying to do a very difficult thing, 1351 01:08:52,258 --> 01:08:57,263 limiting how I can get attention to the piece 1352 01:08:57,307 --> 01:09:01,528 by only having it available to film festivals. 1353 01:09:04,705 --> 01:09:08,927 - I've rarely heard him say, "That was a mistake. 1354 01:09:08,970 --> 01:09:10,972 "I wish I hadn't done that. 1355 01:09:11,016 --> 01:09:15,194 If I could do it over, I would do it this way." 1356 01:09:15,238 --> 01:09:19,416 I think he really has a lot of self-confidence. 1357 01:09:19,459 --> 01:09:21,679 He trusts his instincts, 1358 01:09:21,722 --> 01:09:24,595 and he knows that he can pull a rabbit 1359 01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:25,987 out of a hat if he needs to, 1360 01:09:26,031 --> 01:09:28,990 and I've seen him do it. 1361 01:09:29,034 --> 01:09:31,254 He'll enter into a project 1362 01:09:31,297 --> 01:09:35,214 because of very strong beliefs about it, 1363 01:09:35,258 --> 01:09:37,434 even if they are conflicted beliefs 1364 01:09:37,477 --> 01:09:41,264 or if there's no way to know the actual truth 1365 01:09:41,307 --> 01:09:44,136 or the actual outcome of what's gonna happen. 1366 01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:46,138 You know, as long as you're excited 1367 01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:51,056 and fascinated and curious, you're alive. 1368 01:09:51,099 --> 01:09:52,318 You're really living. 1369 01:09:52,362 --> 01:09:54,277 And he's really living. 1370 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,670 He's often described it as being a surfer. 1371 01:09:56,714 --> 01:09:58,629 You know, you have no idea if you're gonna catch the wave. 1372 01:09:58,672 --> 01:10:00,370 You have no idea, once you're on the wave, 1373 01:10:00,413 --> 01:10:02,067 how long you're gonna stay on the wave, 1374 01:10:02,110 --> 01:10:04,852 and you don't know when your ride is over. 1375 01:10:04,896 --> 01:10:08,291 And for him, that's hugely exciting. 1376 01:10:08,334 --> 01:10:12,556 - Have you ever pulled something that's failed? 1377 01:10:12,599 --> 01:10:13,557 - No. 1378 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,515 - No, really? 1379 01:10:15,559 --> 01:10:17,038 Is it that easy? 1380 01:10:17,082 --> 01:10:18,910 Is there a-- I mean, is there any kind 1381 01:10:18,953 --> 01:10:20,955 of surefire thing you can do? 1382 01:10:20,999 --> 01:10:23,480 - It's like producing a theater piece. 1383 01:10:23,523 --> 01:10:25,873 You conceive, write, produce, direct, stage, act in it. 1384 01:10:25,917 --> 01:10:27,875 It's very complicated. 1385 01:10:27,919 --> 01:10:30,313 There are many techniques to gaining access to the media. 1386 01:10:30,356 --> 01:10:32,184 If you know how the media works, 1387 01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:35,274 it's kind of easy to give them the hook. 1388 01:10:35,318 --> 01:10:38,495 - I know that he will never stop being creative, 1389 01:10:38,538 --> 01:10:40,497 doing projects, 1390 01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:45,502 coming up with outrageous, outlandish, hilarious ideas. 1391 01:10:45,545 --> 01:10:46,590 I know he won't. 1392 01:10:46,633 --> 01:10:49,201 It's just his nature. 1393 01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:50,942 It's what he'll do. 1394 01:10:50,985 --> 01:10:53,684 - You never know what he's gonna come up with next. 1395 01:10:53,727 --> 01:10:55,903 You never know where he's going, 1396 01:10:55,947 --> 01:10:57,470 but I'm going with him. 1397 01:10:57,514 --> 01:10:59,733 I'm gonna be there every time he calls, 1398 01:10:59,777 --> 01:11:01,518 even at this age. 1399 01:11:01,561 --> 01:11:03,911 I'm gonna follow him through the streets of New York. 1400 01:11:03,955 --> 01:11:07,306 It's okay because I know, wherever he's going, 1401 01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:09,526 it's gonna be fun. 1402 01:11:11,484 --> 01:11:13,704 - And, you know, we were leaving one of the houses recently, 1403 01:11:13,747 --> 01:11:14,966 and he said, "I'm so lucky. 1404 01:11:15,009 --> 01:11:16,837 "I'm so, so lucky 1405 01:11:16,881 --> 01:11:19,840 "that all of my friends are here doing this for me. 1406 01:11:19,884 --> 01:11:23,017 Like, it doesn't escape me for a second how grateful I am." 1407 01:11:23,061 --> 01:11:26,020 And then he looked at me in the rearview mirror and said, 1408 01:11:26,064 --> 01:11:28,501 "And you're one of my new friends." 1409 01:11:31,896 --> 01:11:33,593 - I've been really lucky that I've been able 1410 01:11:33,637 --> 01:11:36,422 to live the life that I have lived 1411 01:11:36,466 --> 01:11:39,860 and with the people that have come into my life, 1412 01:11:39,904 --> 01:11:41,949 and to feel a part, 1413 01:11:41,993 --> 01:11:44,387 that we've all created something, 1414 01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:47,607 because, you know, it's just not all me. 1415 01:11:47,651 --> 01:11:51,959 It's me involving everyone I can involve, 1416 01:11:52,003 --> 01:11:54,135 and everyone doing it. 1417 01:11:54,179 --> 01:11:55,615 And that, I love. 1418 01:11:55,659 --> 01:11:59,184 That's the we. It's not the me. 1419 01:12:19,204 --> 01:12:20,379 - Good morning. 1420 01:12:20,423 --> 01:12:23,687 [laughing] 1421 01:12:23,730 --> 01:12:26,124 Good morning! 1422 01:12:26,167 --> 01:12:29,040 It's August 22nd, 1423 01:12:29,083 --> 01:12:33,958 and in the past 12 hours or so, 1424 01:12:34,001 --> 01:12:36,352 we've been accepted to two film festivals. 1425 01:12:36,395 --> 01:12:38,397 [laughs] 1426 01:12:38,441 --> 01:12:41,400 I got the first email last night... 1427 01:12:41,444 --> 01:12:45,056 right before I drifted off to sleep. 1428 01:12:45,099 --> 01:12:47,406 I was pretty excited. 1429 01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:50,409 And then this morning, I wake up, 1430 01:12:50,453 --> 01:12:51,976 and what do you know? 1431 01:12:52,019 --> 01:12:56,415 We're accepted to another film festival! 1432 01:12:56,459 --> 01:12:57,590 Two! 1433 01:12:57,634 --> 01:12:59,070 Hi! 1434 01:12:59,113 --> 01:13:00,158 - Hi. 1435 01:13:00,201 --> 01:13:03,379 [laughter] 1436 01:13:03,422 --> 01:13:04,554 - Can you believe it? 1437 01:13:04,597 --> 01:13:06,251 - We did it. 1438 01:13:06,294 --> 01:13:08,732 [laughing] 1439 01:13:08,775 --> 01:13:09,950 Yeah! 1440 01:13:09,994 --> 01:13:12,649 Now the fun part begins. 1441 01:13:12,692 --> 01:13:15,565 Now it's gonna be the juice. 1442 01:13:15,608 --> 01:13:17,305 [laughs] 1443 01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:27,664 - We'll take... 1444 01:13:32,799 --> 01:13:36,760 The plan for today is, we're gonna poster the town. 1445 01:13:39,850 --> 01:13:41,155 My name is Kit. 1446 01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:43,419 I've got a card if you'd like. 1447 01:13:45,856 --> 01:13:47,161 - Hello, Miss. - Farrell. 1448 01:13:47,205 --> 01:13:48,772 - I'm a filmmaker 1449 01:13:48,815 --> 01:13:50,426 who has a film here in the film festival. 1450 01:13:50,469 --> 01:13:52,036 It's a short film. It's just 20 minutes. 1451 01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:53,907 Let's stop by the cinemas 1452 01:13:53,951 --> 01:13:56,257 to see if our big movie poster is up. 1453 01:13:56,301 --> 01:13:58,346 - Yeah. 1454 01:13:58,390 --> 01:14:01,480 - There it is! 1455 01:14:01,524 --> 01:14:04,788 - Oh, my God. 1456 01:14:04,831 --> 01:14:06,485 - Hey, everybody. 1457 01:14:06,529 --> 01:14:08,487 Right now, Kit Farrell from "Pandora's Hope" 1458 01:14:08,531 --> 01:14:10,010 joins us right now. 1459 01:14:10,054 --> 01:14:11,708 Tell us about this wonderful movie. 1460 01:14:11,751 --> 01:14:14,972 - Oh, I'm so excited about this--my debut project. 1461 01:14:17,191 --> 01:14:20,804 Hawaii's island of Kauai is many things to many people. 1462 01:14:20,847 --> 01:14:23,415 - Things that you normally only read about 1463 01:14:23,459 --> 01:14:26,374 in "Discover Magazine" or something. 1464 01:14:26,418 --> 01:14:29,465 It's not often you see shark's teeth in a human. 1465 01:14:29,508 --> 01:14:33,120 But, you know, they're functioning perfectly. 1466 01:14:48,048 --> 01:14:50,007 - I was wondering, do we push this? 1467 01:14:50,050 --> 01:14:52,705 Do I go up there and serve wine? 1468 01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:54,315 [laughter] 1469 01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:56,622 - With the teeth? - With the teeth. 1470 01:15:00,365 --> 01:15:02,498 - To me, it's another level of absurdity 1471 01:15:02,541 --> 01:15:06,850 that I can't stop myself from wanting to do. 1472 01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:15,946 - People might find it odd 1473 01:15:15,989 --> 01:15:20,167 that you're using the stem cells of a different species 1474 01:15:20,211 --> 01:15:22,561 for your research in humans. 1475 01:15:22,605 --> 01:15:27,348 - I had no idea that the teeth would regenerate so quickly. 1476 01:15:27,392 --> 01:15:31,527 Every test that I did on him was, you know, 100% normal. 1477 01:15:31,570 --> 01:15:35,095 It was as if Joe was born with those teeth. 1478 01:15:35,139 --> 01:15:37,881 [applause] 1479 01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:39,709 - I'm Kit Farrell. 1480 01:15:39,752 --> 01:15:42,233 - That group was basically to make it more transparent, 1481 01:15:42,276 --> 01:15:43,930 as they say. 1482 01:15:43,974 --> 01:15:46,150 - The man with the shark teeth? 1483 01:15:46,193 --> 01:15:47,499 I'm just curious, 1484 01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:49,588 why do the teeth regenerate and-- 1485 01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:52,983 - Yeah, yeah, so this is xenotransplantation, 1486 01:15:53,026 --> 01:15:57,074 which I have come to find is actually not that uncommon. 1487 01:15:57,117 --> 01:15:59,163 It has to do with stem cells. 1488 01:16:19,487 --> 01:16:23,970 - My stories may take off and be an instant-- 1489 01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:26,233 everyone has to read it. 1490 01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:30,673 Or they may be a slow, in the back burner, you know, 1491 01:16:30,716 --> 01:16:34,372 takes time for this to come around. 1492 01:16:34,415 --> 01:16:38,289 And I have to have the openness, 1493 01:16:38,332 --> 01:16:41,901 the flexibility to let that happen. 1494 01:16:45,165 --> 01:16:50,518 I have planted seeds of thought. 1495 01:16:50,562 --> 01:16:55,088 And seeds of thought hopefully will grow. 1496 01:17:01,834 --> 01:17:04,881 "Pandora's Hope" is now a film. 1497 01:17:04,924 --> 01:17:07,057 So it has a life. 1498 01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:10,321 It's not a newspaper article 1499 01:17:10,364 --> 01:17:12,279 that, you know, is yesterday's news, 1500 01:17:12,323 --> 01:17:13,585 buried and gone. 1501 01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:16,109 - Joey? - Yes, yes. 1502 01:17:16,153 --> 01:17:19,504 - I'm actually calling to tell you 1503 01:17:19,547 --> 01:17:23,160 that our film, "Pandora's Hope," has just been accepted 1504 01:17:23,203 --> 01:17:26,816 into the Big Apple Film Festival in New York City. 1505 01:17:26,859 --> 01:17:28,165 - You're kidding. 1506 01:17:28,208 --> 01:17:30,471 - Isn't that amazing? 1507 01:17:30,515 --> 01:17:32,343 - That's fabulous. 1508 01:17:32,386 --> 01:17:37,435 In my heart, I've always been the person 1509 01:17:37,478 --> 01:17:40,612 who is disturbed by things, 1510 01:17:40,656 --> 01:17:42,875 wants to see a change, 1511 01:17:42,919 --> 01:17:45,922 and looks for a way in which to reach people 1512 01:17:45,965 --> 01:17:47,532 to ring the bell 1513 01:17:47,575 --> 01:17:50,317 to make those changes. 1514 01:17:50,361 --> 01:17:52,450 I'm gonna send out the press release 1515 01:17:52,493 --> 01:17:54,713 with a flyer announcing "Pandora's Hope" 1516 01:17:54,757 --> 01:17:58,195 in the film festival in New York to the news media 1517 01:17:58,238 --> 01:18:03,026 and generate some buzz about the film. 1518 01:18:06,594 --> 01:18:08,422 Is it possible for you to get some friends 1519 01:18:08,466 --> 01:18:11,556 to be protestors and protest the movie 1520 01:18:11,599 --> 01:18:15,342 because there's animal stem cells being used in humans? 1521 01:18:15,386 --> 01:18:18,606 We're gonna have a demonstration against the movie. 1522 01:18:18,650 --> 01:18:20,913 So I'm planning on that. 1523 01:18:20,957 --> 01:18:22,567 [laughing] 1524 01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:25,744 I'm getting protest signs printed up now. 1525 01:18:25,788 --> 01:18:27,615 Frankenfood, Frankenpeople. 1526 01:18:27,659 --> 01:18:29,356 Frankenstein. 1527 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,838 Just don't tell anybody that it's a hoax. 1528 01:18:32,882 --> 01:18:33,883 - I won't, I won't. 1529 01:18:33,926 --> 01:18:35,798 - Okay. 1530 01:18:35,841 --> 01:18:38,235 All right, 'cause I've got, like, two years worth of my life 1531 01:18:38,278 --> 01:18:39,932 in this thing. 1532 01:18:39,976 --> 01:18:41,107 Bye. 1533 01:18:41,151 --> 01:18:42,369 - Bye. 1534 01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:45,024 - [chuckling] 1535 01:19:00,692 --> 01:19:03,651 [atmospheric music] 1536 01:19:03,695 --> 01:19:10,746 ♪ 1537 01:19:28,546 --> 01:19:31,505 [no speech audio] 1538 01:19:31,549 --> 01:19:38,599 ♪ 1539 01:19:53,614 --> 01:19:55,834 I don't remember if I told you about my first-grade teacher, 1540 01:19:55,878 --> 01:19:58,315 Ms. Davis, who said to the class, 1541 01:19:58,358 --> 01:20:01,535 "Class, I want you all to think about something. 1542 01:20:01,579 --> 01:20:03,537 "Just open your minds. 1543 01:20:03,581 --> 01:20:05,757 I'm gonna tell you about a big picture." 1544 01:20:05,801 --> 01:20:07,715 She started out telling the class, 1545 01:20:07,759 --> 01:20:10,109 "Oh, let's, you know, look under a microscope," 1546 01:20:10,153 --> 01:20:12,416 and we see this little amoeba. 1547 01:20:12,459 --> 01:20:15,114 And then, you know, the amoeba grows, 1548 01:20:15,158 --> 01:20:17,943 and we have, you know, bigger life, 1549 01:20:17,987 --> 01:20:22,252 and we grow, and now we have people. 1550 01:20:22,295 --> 01:20:24,602 But people are really, you know, 1551 01:20:24,645 --> 01:20:26,909 just a grain of sand on a beach. 1552 01:20:26,952 --> 01:20:32,131 And she said, "Just imagine all the beaches in the world, 1553 01:20:32,175 --> 01:20:38,398 "and then planets and galaxies in a big universe. 1554 01:20:38,442 --> 01:20:41,184 And it goes on and on and on and on." 1555 01:20:41,227 --> 01:20:44,056 And she just kept getting the picture bigger and bigger. 1556 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:45,841 I felt really frightened. 1557 01:20:45,884 --> 01:20:49,583 I just, you know-- I lost my grasp of reality, 1558 01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:52,673 where I was, my place in the universe. 1559 01:20:52,717 --> 01:20:56,199 And I realized how insignificant I was. 1560 01:20:56,242 --> 01:21:03,293 ♪ 1561 01:21:57,913 --> 01:21:59,523 - Well, that's it. 1562 01:21:59,566 --> 01:22:01,917 That's our evening at a cathouse for dogs. 1563 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,440 And it is for real, 1564 01:22:03,483 --> 01:22:06,269 and it is run by Mr. Joseph Skaggs. 1565 01:22:06,312 --> 01:22:07,661 No kidding around. 1566 01:22:07,705 --> 01:22:09,402 This is it, right? 1567 01:22:09,446 --> 01:22:10,577 - Satisfaction guaranteed, Alex. 1568 01:22:10,621 --> 01:22:12,318 - Satisfaction guaranteed. 1569 01:22:12,362 --> 01:22:15,321 [rousing music] 1570 01:22:15,365 --> 01:22:22,415 ♪ 1571 01:23:51,548 --> 01:23:52,679 - I want to get you a live shot. 1572 01:23:52,723 --> 01:23:54,420 This is a protest, 1573 01:23:54,464 --> 01:23:56,335 according to at least one press release, 1574 01:23:56,379 --> 01:23:58,859 organized by an artist named Joey Skaggs. 1575 01:23:58,903 --> 01:24:00,644 He has led this band 1576 01:24:00,687 --> 01:24:03,342 of outraged consumers dressed as Muppets 1577 01:24:03,386 --> 01:24:05,083 down to Goldman on West Street. 1578 01:24:05,127 --> 01:24:07,085 He's also peddling 1579 01:24:07,129 --> 01:24:09,609 what they're calling his mobile homeless homes prototype. 1580 01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:11,176 It's what they're calling 1581 01:24:11,220 --> 01:24:13,222 a low-cost alternative living space 1582 01:24:13,265 --> 01:24:15,180 for the millions of underwater 1583 01:24:15,224 --> 01:24:17,095 or foreclosed homeowners in this country, 1584 01:24:17,139 --> 01:24:19,967 but Goldman clearly is not done hearing about Muppets. 1585 01:25:12,150 --> 01:25:14,109 - Is this the last of your hoaxes? 1586 01:25:14,152 --> 01:25:17,199 - Oh, sure. 110522

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