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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually based offenses are
considered especially heinous.
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In New York City,
the dedicated detectives
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who investigate these vicious
felonies are members
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of an elite squad known
as the Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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Hello, my name is Lucky.
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I'm 14 years old,
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and I live in Thailand.
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I'm all alone,
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and I'm waiting
to play with you.
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30 responses and counting.
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So far none
in our jurisdiction.
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Feed her a few more lines.
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30 just doubled to 60.
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Just tell me
what you want me to do.
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95.
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- Can we keep up?
- Taru's all over this.
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Make sure you get them
all on record
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asking
for specific illegal acts.
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I'd like to do that.
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With my shirt off?
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It is hot in here.
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It's been 30 minutes.
What the score so far?
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Just under 800 responses.
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- So how are you holding up?
- Okay.
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It's a dirty job,
but I like getting these guys.
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Heavy in the Eastern Bloc,
China, and the American South.
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No comment.
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Turn those IPs over
to the FBI and interpol.
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Any in our backyard?
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Four in Brooklyn,
three in Queens.
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Any in Manhattan?
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One confirmed so far.
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Municipal IP address,
calls himself "Flash."
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That must be the guy
who told Lucky that he wanted
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to meet her in Bangkok
and bring her to New York.
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- Is he still at work?
- Yeah.
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Fin, Amaro,
go pick him up.
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Gordon Montlieff?
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- Can I help you?
- NYPD.
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All payroll inquiries
must be submitted
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by fax or regular mail.
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It's not about payroll.
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Okay, well, then, maybe
my supervisor can help you.
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I don't think you want
your supervisor involved.
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Remember me?
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My name is Lucky.
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Oh, man. Seriously?
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How about that, stud?
Saved you a trip to Bangkok.
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On your feet.
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Let's go, Flash.
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- sync and corrections by Zac -
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That girl and I
were just talking.
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- About sex with a 14-year-old.
- No, I saw her.
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- She is not 14.
- That doesn't matter.
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You thought she was.
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Wait, so I'm arrested
for thinking?
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Why are we talking
to this guy?
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Just charge him
and lock him up.
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This squad needs to evolve.
Little cases make big cases.
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Oh, so we're cutting pleas
with pedophiles?
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Look, lieutenant, we're not
dealing with a mastermind here.
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We don't know
what we're dealing with.
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Taru still working
on his computer?
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Find out where they are.
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Meanwhile, Fin and Rollins
will walk him up the ladder,
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- see where he leads us.
- You're the boss.
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He's a ray of sunshine.
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Look, he's dealing
with some stuff right now.
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Yeah, we all are.
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That's why we go to work,
to get out of our own heads.
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Well, Flash,
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we know that you talked
to your friends
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in chat rooms, on websites.
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Now, did you ever take
the next step?
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Did you ever meet them?
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Some of those guys,
they're sick.
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If I turn them in,
they'll come after me.
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As if the inmates
aren't gonna
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come after a pedophile like you
in prison.
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God!
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He mentioned some friends,
but it's all pretty vague.
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Still fighting the hook.
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If he was done,
he would've lawyered up.
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Let him stew in holding
for a while.
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He doesn't strike me
as the reflective type.
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Maybe he needs a shoulder
to cry on.
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Make yourself at home, chomo.
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You two got a lot in common.
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I want my lawyer.
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For what?
You're gone, Howard.
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I'm not a chomo.
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They tricked me.
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They used a girl called "Lucky."
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You too?
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Doesn't matter anyway.
I'm dead.
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They already got me
on the registry
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for something else
I didn't do!
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I didn't.
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I'm never getting out
of here.
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My life is over.
I can't go back.
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'Cause you know what
they do to us in prison?
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I can't go back.
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Hey, man, what are you doing?
You can't pee in here.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry, I-I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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Hey, come on.
A little help in here?
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This guy's making a mess.
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Yeah, I'll get right on that.
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- Come on.
- I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.
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Please?
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Daddy, can I get an ice cream?
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A lemon ice, small.
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Eh, but bring me the change,
huh?
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- Ah, change.
- Oh.
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She misses you.
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I miss her too.
So you said you wanted to talk?
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Yeah, I got a job offer
in L.A.
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L.A.?
You hate L.A.
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It's in corporate
communications for northrop.
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It pays more than both of us
make combined.
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You're considering taking Zara
across the country from me?
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No.
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I don't know,
maybe you can come too.
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Come on.
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I see what this job
is doing to you.
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Could be a fresh start.
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There are a lot of options
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for a former New York detective
out there.
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Yeah?
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Maria, are you asking me
to move with you?
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Can we take it one step
at a time?
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It's 3,000 Miles away.
That's not one step.
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I-I don't even know
what to think.
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I have to get back to work.
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Okay.
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Hey, where's my change?
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That's my girl.
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We're still going through
Gordon's home computer,
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but he did give up
this mini-tablet
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found hidden in the book.
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It's like a travel diary
for the dark net.
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And he volunteered this?
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We had a heart-to-heart.
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He's hoping for a little help.
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Well, he thinks of himself
as a voyeur,
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but he knows guys
who may go further.
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"Kids without shame"?
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It's a chat room
for pedophiles.
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So here's the guy that Gordon
tipped us off to.
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He calls himself "erastes."
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"I see him
from my window playing
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"in the P.S. 27 school yard.
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"Sweet faced, chubby.
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"I imagine stringing him up,
hearing him squeal.
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"How long do you think
it would take
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for the blood to run out
if I hung him upside down?"
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That's horrifying, but...
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But it is on a site
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that explicitly says
it's fantasy.
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He's talking about a real boy
that he's seen.
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And you know this how?
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- We're giving you a heads-up,
counselor,
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not asking for your blessing.
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I'm talking
about one undercover meet.
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If it's just fantasy,
we walk away.
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And if it's not,
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do you want to be responsible
for missing this?
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Oh, honey, I love this one.
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This is my favorite
in the whole show.
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It is striking.
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Is this your gallery?
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No, the photographer's
my husband.
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You're married
to Simon Wilkes?
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Is he here?
I'd love to meet him.
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Oh, that's great.
He's right over there.
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You know what, do you have
a catalog I can look at?
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Whatever you want, baby,
just get a price.
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- This way.
- Okay.
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And I will see you
in a little bit.
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Simon Wilkes?
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Good-looking boy.
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It's amazing.
Someone might look
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at that photograph
and think innocence, but...
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It's all about
what you bring to it.
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Yes.
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Howard Jeffries.
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Simon Wilkes.
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Flash wasn't wrong.
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Flash?
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A friend, he said you might
have some other work
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that would appeal to me...
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Studies of a school yard?
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I see.
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Can we discuss prices?
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Somewhere we can meet later?
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Maybe not here.
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Peter Jay's. It's a bar
around the corner from P.S. 27.
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I'll need an hour.
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Not that I don't appreciate
your safer pieces...
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My wife's a fan.
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But Flash told me
you're edgier.
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You never told me
how you know Flash.
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We met online, corresponded,
chatted a few times.
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He told me
about your school yard series.
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I was intrigued.
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The ancient greeks
appreciated the beauty
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of the young male body,
unshaven and unspoiled.
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I think we both have moved
beyond mere appreciation,
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have we not?
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It's all just fantasy.
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What if it wasn't?
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Forgive me, what business
did you say you were in?
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I own
a furniture design company.
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I do very well.
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Whatever it is
we're discussing,
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I can afford it.
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So you're serious
about this?
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Extremely.
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In fact, I suggest we both
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turn off our cell phones...
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So we know this conversation
isn't being recorded.
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Good to be cautious.
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Where were we?
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We were talking
about money...
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And boys.
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And not just sex
with them.
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You're with me on that,
right?
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Yes.
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We understand each other.
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What we're talking about
takes means,
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the right subject, venue.
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It's a commitment.
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Are you willing to commit?
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It's a commitment.
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Are you willing to commit?
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That's it?
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Sounds to me like
you're flirting with entrapment.
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You brought up procuring
a boy.
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He didn't shy away.
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He was the one that brought up
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using boys
for more than just sex.
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Did you get anywhere
with the wife?
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Big blind spot,
she adores him.
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She's a sicko too.
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Tell me that at least Wilkes
has a record.
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He stays under the radar.
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Except when he chats
about boys
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in the school yard he wants
to torture.
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We do not indict people
for just imagining things.
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Show me a substantial step,
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we'll have
a different conversation.
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Lawyers think too much.
This Wilkes is bad news.
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Go back to Gordon.
Get us something more.
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Can you get me into solitary?
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Everybody's looking at me
all the time.
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Might be able to do that,
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but you got to stop
holding out on us.
261
00:12:56,754 --> 00:13:00,223
Your pal erastes, he ever talk
about actually hurting boys?
262
00:13:00,257 --> 00:13:03,026
No, I'm not a part of that,
okay?
263
00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:05,362
I-I-I just like to watch.
264
00:13:05,396 --> 00:13:08,498
He is into things
that I would never do.
265
00:13:08,532 --> 00:13:10,834
Like what?
266
00:13:10,868 --> 00:13:14,404
- Well, there was
this live-streaming Webcast
267
00:13:14,438 --> 00:13:17,273
from Estonia a few months ago.
268
00:13:17,308 --> 00:13:20,844
Erastes kept sending messages
to the master
269
00:13:20,878 --> 00:13:23,880
asking him to hurt the boy...
270
00:13:23,914 --> 00:13:27,917
Make him bleed.
271
00:13:27,952 --> 00:13:32,222
Now, I-I turned it off,
but then later,
272
00:13:32,256 --> 00:13:35,658
erastes bragged that
273
00:13:35,693 --> 00:13:38,228
he had watched the boy die.
274
00:13:38,262 --> 00:13:39,963
And then he said to me
275
00:13:39,997 --> 00:13:43,933
that we should find a boy
that nobody would miss.
276
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,074
Gordon told us
about a Webcast
277
00:13:51,108 --> 00:13:52,909
for something called
"damage groups."
278
00:13:52,943 --> 00:13:55,211
They take live requests
to torture young kids.
279
00:13:55,246 --> 00:13:57,447
The darker the skin,
the worse they get it.
280
00:13:57,481 --> 00:13:58,715
Bruises don't show.
281
00:13:58,749 --> 00:14:00,383
Okay, any way to access it?
282
00:14:00,418 --> 00:14:01,885
It streamed live
three months ago.
283
00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:03,553
We turned over what we had
to interpol.
284
00:14:03,587 --> 00:14:05,054
That won't help.
285
00:14:05,089 --> 00:14:06,723
Take over
Gordon's chat room accounts.
286
00:14:06,757 --> 00:14:08,958
Keep fishing.
287
00:14:08,993 --> 00:14:11,895
Fin, you got a minute?
288
00:14:11,929 --> 00:14:14,464
Something wrong, lieutenant?
289
00:14:14,498 --> 00:14:16,866
Damage groups,
torturing young kids?
290
00:14:16,901 --> 00:14:18,268
How long you been dealing
with this?
291
00:14:18,302 --> 00:14:21,571
14 years, 8 in narcotics
before that.
292
00:14:21,605 --> 00:14:24,207
- That was worse.
- Worse, how is that possible?
293
00:14:24,241 --> 00:14:27,043
Dealers had so much cash,
they turned everybody.
294
00:14:27,078 --> 00:14:29,746
Judges, prosecutors...
Everyone's crooked.
295
00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:32,649
- There are gray areas in SVU.
- Not for me.
296
00:14:32,683 --> 00:14:35,618
You touch a woman or a kid,
you're scum.
297
00:14:35,653 --> 00:14:38,822
Wilkes... I want to slam him
in a cage.
298
00:14:38,856 --> 00:14:41,124
How about tonight?
299
00:14:41,158 --> 00:14:43,493
Tell me where.
300
00:14:43,527 --> 00:14:46,996
Now I got to head uptown,
going to a meeting.
301
00:14:47,031 --> 00:14:48,631
- Okay.
- Safe home.
302
00:14:48,666 --> 00:14:51,167
All right.
303
00:14:51,202 --> 00:14:52,469
She's really working
her program.
304
00:14:52,503 --> 00:14:54,838
Yeah, hope so.
How you doing?
305
00:14:54,872 --> 00:14:57,273
You were a little hot in there
with Murphy.
306
00:14:57,308 --> 00:15:00,243
You should be C.O.
now, he comes in and...
307
00:15:00,277 --> 00:15:02,312
Maria and Zara are in town,
right?
308
00:15:02,346 --> 00:15:04,514
- Yeah.
- How's that going?
309
00:15:04,548 --> 00:15:07,150
I'm not crossing the line.
Maria asked to see me.
310
00:15:07,184 --> 00:15:08,818
She got a job offer
in California
311
00:15:08,853 --> 00:15:12,355
- and wants to take Zara with her.
- Wow.
312
00:15:12,390 --> 00:15:15,492
Yeah, she brought up the idea
of me going with them.
313
00:15:15,526 --> 00:15:17,527
- What?
- Yeah, I know.
314
00:15:17,561 --> 00:15:19,295
I mean, a month ago,
she's calling you,
315
00:15:19,330 --> 00:15:20,597
telling me to back off.
316
00:15:20,631 --> 00:15:23,867
- I do, and then...
- You thinking of going?
317
00:15:23,901 --> 00:15:27,804
Uh...My life is here, Liv.
318
00:15:27,838 --> 00:15:29,139
I don't want to fight,
319
00:15:29,173 --> 00:15:31,975
but Maria's not taking
my daughter away from me.
320
00:15:38,716 --> 00:15:40,183
I know
you've been vouched for,
321
00:15:40,217 --> 00:15:42,085
but I got to take care
of myself.
322
00:15:42,119 --> 00:15:43,787
We're just here
to talk business.
323
00:15:43,821 --> 00:15:45,922
Okay, what kind?
324
00:15:45,956 --> 00:15:49,426
Oxy, heroin, women, girls...
325
00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:53,329
No guns, but anything else,
whatever you're to.
326
00:15:53,364 --> 00:15:54,497
I don't judge.
327
00:15:54,532 --> 00:15:57,033
- How about boys?
- Teens?
328
00:15:57,068 --> 00:15:58,268
Maybe younger.
329
00:15:58,302 --> 00:16:01,938
No grass on the infield?
330
00:16:01,972 --> 00:16:05,842
Someone no one
will come looking for.
331
00:16:05,876 --> 00:16:10,213
From El Salvador or Mexico,
it could be done.
332
00:16:10,247 --> 00:16:11,981
I need 40k all-in.
333
00:16:12,016 --> 00:16:13,183
Only if we see the boy first.
334
00:16:13,217 --> 00:16:16,286
Wait, I don't have
that kind of cash.
335
00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,620
This guy got no skin
in the game.
336
00:16:17,655 --> 00:16:19,489
I'm gone.
337
00:16:19,523 --> 00:16:22,726
I can do better.
338
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,994
Better?
Keep talking.
339
00:16:24,028 --> 00:16:26,830
A venue, soundproofed, hidden.
340
00:16:26,864 --> 00:16:27,864
What's that gonna do for me?
341
00:16:27,898 --> 00:16:32,769
Live-stream it.
People will pay.
342
00:16:38,943 --> 00:16:41,077
My friend here
is a photographer.
343
00:16:41,112 --> 00:16:43,580
I got that.
It's not my style.
344
00:16:43,614 --> 00:16:46,149
His wife likes them.
Bought a couple.
345
00:16:46,183 --> 00:16:48,151
Whatever she wants,
makes it easier.
346
00:16:48,185 --> 00:16:49,953
Okay, I seen the front.
Where's the back?
347
00:16:49,987 --> 00:16:51,788
Getting there.
348
00:16:51,822 --> 00:16:54,391
Give you the full tour.
349
00:16:58,596 --> 00:17:00,997
I've soundproofed everything.
350
00:17:01,032 --> 00:17:03,933
No one can hear the screams.
351
00:17:16,681 --> 00:17:19,182
State of the art.
352
00:17:19,216 --> 00:17:22,185
- What do you think?
- All this stuff works?
353
00:17:22,219 --> 00:17:25,021
The boys I bring in here
354
00:17:25,056 --> 00:17:29,059
are henceforth never the same.
355
00:17:29,093 --> 00:17:31,428
You're a sick freak.
356
00:17:31,462 --> 00:17:33,330
I like you.
357
00:17:33,364 --> 00:17:36,032
You want some skin
in the game?
358
00:17:36,067 --> 00:17:37,801
Let's peel it off that boy.
359
00:17:51,145 --> 00:17:52,756
Well, that's the
view he talked about.
360
00:17:52,757 --> 00:17:55,120
- Right out onto the school yard.
- Luminol every inch.
361
00:17:55,196 --> 00:17:57,197
Check all film
and storage spaces.
362
00:17:57,232 --> 00:17:58,832
Pull up the floors.
Knock out the walls.
363
00:17:58,867 --> 00:18:00,601
This place is pristine.
He brought boys here?
364
00:18:00,635 --> 00:18:02,269
So he scrubbed it clean.
He's careful.
365
00:18:02,304 --> 00:18:04,705
So what does he do
with the bodies?
366
00:18:04,739 --> 00:18:07,041
Open up the drains
and test for chemicals.
367
00:18:07,075 --> 00:18:09,877
I want a drop of blood, a shard
of bone, something, anything.
368
00:18:09,911 --> 00:18:12,212
Lieutenant, counselor,
369
00:18:12,247 --> 00:18:16,083
CSU found these hiding
behind a fake wall.
370
00:18:16,117 --> 00:18:18,886
Sick son of a bitch.
371
00:18:20,155 --> 00:18:22,423
It was all fantasy.
Nothing happened.
372
00:18:22,457 --> 00:18:24,124
Nothing?
373
00:18:24,159 --> 00:18:27,561
Found your little...
Hidey-hole.
374
00:18:27,596 --> 00:18:29,930
Photos of boys being tortured
in that room?
375
00:18:29,965 --> 00:18:32,232
- Who are they?
- What?
376
00:18:32,267 --> 00:18:35,903
No, I photoshopped those.
I'm an art photographer.
377
00:18:35,937 --> 00:18:37,605
- You were at my opening.
- Yeah, I was.
378
00:18:37,639 --> 00:18:39,173
So you know I took photos
off the Internet
379
00:18:39,207 --> 00:18:40,574
and manipulated the images.
380
00:18:40,609 --> 00:18:42,109
Yeah, stop lying now.
381
00:18:42,143 --> 00:18:43,978
Let's hear his side.
382
00:18:44,012 --> 00:18:46,380
His side?
383
00:18:46,414 --> 00:18:48,015
We have him on tape,
384
00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:52,219
negotiating to buy a boy
that no one would miss
385
00:18:52,254 --> 00:18:54,989
from Mexico, El Salvador.
Does that ring a bell?
386
00:18:55,023 --> 00:18:57,291
- That was just a game.
- A game?
387
00:18:57,325 --> 00:18:58,292
I thought we all
understood that.
388
00:18:58,326 --> 00:19:00,027
Do you think it's a game
389
00:19:00,061 --> 00:19:03,564
to torture young boys, huh?
390
00:19:03,598 --> 00:19:05,900
You like to be in control?
391
00:19:05,934 --> 00:19:08,569
Well, guess what,
that game's over.
392
00:19:08,603 --> 00:19:10,571
New game, my rules, not yours.
393
00:19:10,605 --> 00:19:12,573
- Sergeant...
- How about we play this game?
394
00:19:12,607 --> 00:19:13,941
You start talking now,
395
00:19:13,975 --> 00:19:16,410
or I'm gonna take you back
into that room,
396
00:19:16,444 --> 00:19:18,946
and I'm gonna strap you
into that chair,
397
00:19:18,980 --> 00:19:21,348
and I'm gonna slice you open
until your blood runs out.
398
00:19:21,383 --> 00:19:22,750
- Sergeant!
- How about that game?
399
00:19:22,784 --> 00:19:23,918
- Hey!
- I need a minute.
400
00:19:23,952 --> 00:19:26,987
Take a break!
401
00:19:32,327 --> 00:19:33,661
We gotta take a break.
402
00:19:39,401 --> 00:19:40,701
I've been here
for 15 years.
403
00:19:40,735 --> 00:19:42,036
And you've been here
for two minutes,
404
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:43,470
and you're pulling me
out of an interrogation?
405
00:19:43,505 --> 00:19:44,738
You weren't asking him
questions.
406
00:19:44,773 --> 00:19:45,873
You were yelling at him.
407
00:19:45,907 --> 00:19:47,575
You do know the goal
is to align yourself
408
00:19:47,609 --> 00:19:49,143
with the suspect,
not to judge him?
409
00:19:49,177 --> 00:19:50,311
Yeah.
410
00:19:50,345 --> 00:19:53,180
Then what the hell was that?
Anger at Lewis?
411
00:19:57,919 --> 00:19:59,954
I got the message.
412
00:19:59,988 --> 00:20:02,389
And by the way,
I have a shrink.
413
00:20:05,961 --> 00:20:08,596
Go in there
and align yourself.
414
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:09,997
What, me, with that guy?
415
00:20:10,031 --> 00:20:11,899
Yeah, now.
416
00:20:17,339 --> 00:20:20,140
I'm sorry about that,
uh, Simon.
417
00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:24,778
I'm detective Amaro.
Nick.
418
00:20:24,813 --> 00:20:26,847
Are you okay?
419
00:20:26,882 --> 00:20:30,751
Is she crazy?
Photography's my art.
420
00:20:30,785 --> 00:20:32,152
You want to tell me
about that?
421
00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:34,221
They're meant to shock,
provoke.
422
00:20:34,256 --> 00:20:36,690
That's what good art does,
but it's not real.
423
00:20:36,725 --> 00:20:38,893
Well, if like you say,
it's all fake,
424
00:20:38,927 --> 00:20:40,761
our forensic guys
will back that up.
425
00:20:40,795 --> 00:20:43,197
Right, but he's...
He's an artist, Nick.
426
00:20:43,231 --> 00:20:46,033
He... the way he sees it,
he's just pushing boundaries.
427
00:20:46,067 --> 00:20:47,401
It's true...
I have images in my head,
428
00:20:47,435 --> 00:20:48,936
and I try to re-create them,
429
00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:52,039
but it's digital
trompe l'oeil.
430
00:20:52,073 --> 00:20:54,608
I don't expect you
to understand.
431
00:20:54,643 --> 00:20:58,679
No, I think I do.
432
00:20:58,713 --> 00:21:03,751
The things I look at all day
on this job,
433
00:21:03,785 --> 00:21:07,054
they put images
in my head too.
434
00:21:07,088 --> 00:21:10,724
I watch videos
at night...
435
00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:12,459
As an outlet.
436
00:21:12,494 --> 00:21:13,727
That's what you're saying
this is, a release?
437
00:21:13,762 --> 00:21:16,197
Yes, I swear.
438
00:21:16,231 --> 00:21:19,733
But you crossed over
when you started talking
439
00:21:19,768 --> 00:21:21,302
about buying a boy.
440
00:21:21,336 --> 00:21:22,803
Your guys were talking
about that.
441
00:21:22,837 --> 00:21:24,538
There was no boy.
There never has been one.
442
00:21:24,573 --> 00:21:26,040
I didn't give any money.
443
00:21:26,074 --> 00:21:28,075
Yeah, but, Simon,
that chamber...
444
00:21:28,109 --> 00:21:30,911
That's...My meditation room.
445
00:21:30,946 --> 00:21:32,880
I'm the only one
who's been in there.
446
00:21:32,914 --> 00:21:35,549
Tear the place apart.
You won't find anything.
447
00:21:35,584 --> 00:21:38,619
It's a meditation room.
448
00:21:38,653 --> 00:21:40,488
Mr. Wilkes,
I'm Minonna Efron.
449
00:21:40,522 --> 00:21:41,622
Your wife's waiting
right outside.
450
00:21:41,656 --> 00:21:44,625
She's retained me
as your attorney.
451
00:21:44,659 --> 00:21:47,728
Detectives,
give us the room.
452
00:21:53,835 --> 00:21:55,669
We were getting somewhere.
453
00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:56,737
All right,
I did what you wanted,
454
00:21:56,772 --> 00:21:58,806
but that stuff I said
makes me sick.
455
00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,840
It's called doing your job.
456
00:21:59,875 --> 00:22:01,408
I've got two kids,
all right?
457
00:22:01,443 --> 00:22:06,614
A ten-year-old son.
I want him gone.
458
00:22:08,817 --> 00:22:10,751
People versus Simon Wilkes.
459
00:22:10,785 --> 00:22:12,153
The charges
are attempted kidnapping
460
00:22:12,187 --> 00:22:14,655
and attempted sexual abuse
of a child.
461
00:22:14,689 --> 00:22:15,956
Mr. Wilkes,
how do you plead?
462
00:22:15,991 --> 00:22:18,492
- Not guilty, your honor.
- Bail?
463
00:22:18,527 --> 00:22:20,995
The charges against Mr. Wilkes
are especially heinous.
464
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:23,264
He built a torture chamber
across from a school.
465
00:22:23,298 --> 00:22:25,900
He has gone online describing
specific horrifying acts
466
00:22:25,934 --> 00:22:27,935
of torture he imagines
inflicting on boys
467
00:22:27,969 --> 00:22:30,371
he looks out on from his window
every day.
468
00:22:30,405 --> 00:22:32,273
We consider him an ongoing
threat to those children,
469
00:22:32,307 --> 00:22:33,507
and we request
that he be denied bail.
470
00:22:33,542 --> 00:22:36,277
- Your honor, Mr. Wilkes
is a well-regarded artist
471
00:22:36,311 --> 00:22:37,978
with ties to the community.
472
00:22:38,013 --> 00:22:39,714
My client has a fantasy life,
473
00:22:39,748 --> 00:22:42,950
but the D.A. is using
his own overactive imagination
474
00:22:42,984 --> 00:22:44,451
to inflame the situation.
475
00:22:44,486 --> 00:22:48,289
There is not one shred of forensic
evidence of criminal behavior.
476
00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:50,257
A grenade with the pin pulled
hasn't blown up yet,
477
00:22:50,292 --> 00:22:52,026
but it's still a danger
to those around it.
478
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:53,494
I understand.
479
00:22:53,528 --> 00:22:55,863
I'm setting bail
at $5 million cash.
480
00:22:55,897 --> 00:22:56,864
Your honor,
that amount is punitive...
481
00:22:56,898 --> 00:22:59,533
Next case.
482
00:23:01,837 --> 00:23:04,572
I get it, counselor.
As soon I know, you'll know.
483
00:23:04,606 --> 00:23:06,907
That was Barba.
Good news.
484
00:23:06,942 --> 00:23:09,343
Wilkes has been remanded
and slated for a psych eval.
485
00:23:09,377 --> 00:23:11,745
Bad news: It's tough to try
a case with no victims.
486
00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:13,147
Where are we?
I got more bad news.
487
00:23:13,181 --> 00:23:15,349
Just got off the phone
with tar...
488
00:23:15,383 --> 00:23:16,917
Wilkes was telling the truth
489
00:23:16,952 --> 00:23:21,322
about those torture pictures...
Photoshopped.
490
00:23:21,356 --> 00:23:23,157
I might have something.
491
00:23:23,191 --> 00:23:25,493
There was a nine-year-old
from P.S. 27
492
00:23:25,527 --> 00:23:26,894
who went missing last year.
493
00:23:26,928 --> 00:23:28,362
That's the special needs boy.
494
00:23:28,396 --> 00:23:30,130
He turned up six days later,
495
00:23:30,165 --> 00:23:31,665
couldn't tell the police
where he'd been.
496
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,934
Show the family Wilkes' photo.
Go back to the school.
497
00:23:33,969 --> 00:23:35,536
See if anyone has seen Wilkes
with kids,
498
00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:36,637
and while you're at it,
499
00:23:36,671 --> 00:23:38,672
check out
any open molestation cases.
500
00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:45,212
- So?
- No, sorry.
501
00:23:45,247 --> 00:23:48,149
Have you seen this man?
502
00:24:02,564 --> 00:24:05,166
What about him?
503
00:24:07,969 --> 00:24:11,205
Well, hey, thank you
for your time, all right?
504
00:24:11,239 --> 00:24:13,240
Thank you.
Thanks.
505
00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:16,510
I find myself
in the terrible position
506
00:24:16,545 --> 00:24:17,978
of hoping we found a victim.
507
00:24:18,013 --> 00:24:19,447
That was the boy
who went missing.
508
00:24:19,481 --> 00:24:20,781
He couldn't I.D. Wilkes.
509
00:24:20,816 --> 00:24:23,117
A few kids and moms
at the school recognized him.
510
00:24:23,151 --> 00:24:26,220
He takes pictures,
but he hasn't bothered anyone.
511
00:24:26,254 --> 00:24:27,788
What about
the molestation cases?
512
00:24:27,823 --> 00:24:29,523
Five lineups,
five strikeouts.
513
00:24:29,558 --> 00:24:32,393
We've checked every single file
on Wilkes' computer.
514
00:24:32,427 --> 00:24:34,762
We've checked every single photo
on his cloud account.
515
00:24:34,796 --> 00:24:36,063
- Nothing.
- Go further.
516
00:24:36,098 --> 00:24:39,533
Look into, uh, former addresses
close to school yards.
517
00:24:39,568 --> 00:24:40,901
What do we know
about his history?
518
00:24:40,936 --> 00:24:43,737
- Well, he has an ex-wife
and a son living in Toronto.
519
00:24:43,772 --> 00:24:45,973
They're ducking our calls.
Hey, that was cs...
520
00:24:46,007 --> 00:24:48,743
They found body fluids,
hair fibers,
521
00:24:48,777 --> 00:24:50,544
fingerprints
all over the dungeon.
522
00:24:50,579 --> 00:24:52,446
They're even on the boy's
clothing in the hamper.
523
00:24:52,481 --> 00:24:54,081
- Good, and they're running DNA?
- Yeah, they already did that.
524
00:24:54,116 --> 00:24:58,586
Only one hit: Wilkes.
525
00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:00,688
No trace of anyone else?
526
00:25:00,722 --> 00:25:03,591
He must have
cleaned the place up.
527
00:25:03,625 --> 00:25:05,192
The place isn't clean.
528
00:25:05,227 --> 00:25:07,294
There's no sign
of bleach there,
529
00:25:07,329 --> 00:25:08,295
and he can't just wipe up
everybody else's DNA
530
00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:09,597
and leave his own.
531
00:25:09,631 --> 00:25:12,066
But he told us what he'd done
to kids in there.
532
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,852
I mean, why in God's name
would anyone make that up?
533
00:25:20,842 --> 00:25:21,842
Good afternoon,
Mr. Wilkes.
534
00:25:21,877 --> 00:25:26,046
I'm Dr. George huang.
535
00:25:26,081 --> 00:25:28,849
Do you understand the purpose
of this interview?
536
00:25:28,884 --> 00:25:30,618
You're the one psychiatrist
both sides
537
00:25:30,652 --> 00:25:32,620
could agree on as an expert.
538
00:25:32,654 --> 00:25:34,722
And just to be clear,
I'm not here to judge.
539
00:25:34,756 --> 00:25:37,625
I'm here to evaluate.
540
00:25:37,659 --> 00:25:39,560
Have you ever been
in therapy?
541
00:25:39,594 --> 00:25:41,295
No, I've never had the need.
542
00:25:41,329 --> 00:25:45,533
Really?
543
00:25:45,567 --> 00:25:49,370
So how do you think
that you got here?
544
00:25:49,404 --> 00:25:52,173
Like everyone else,
I have a fantasy life.
545
00:25:52,207 --> 00:25:53,641
I just made the mistake
of talking
546
00:25:53,675 --> 00:25:56,177
to the wrong people about it.
547
00:25:56,211 --> 00:25:59,080
And that's all that they were,
fantasies?
548
00:25:59,114 --> 00:26:03,350
That's right.
I think visually.
549
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,789
So you have
very graphic fantasies?
550
00:26:12,694 --> 00:26:16,330
Let's explore that.
551
00:26:16,365 --> 00:26:18,899
You know there's no guarantee
when it comes to the human mind.
552
00:26:18,934 --> 00:26:20,868
No one expects a crystal ball,
doctor,
553
00:26:20,902 --> 00:26:22,002
just the best risk assessment.
554
00:26:22,037 --> 00:26:25,373
Well, to be honest,
555
00:26:25,407 --> 00:26:26,774
he scares me.
556
00:26:26,808 --> 00:26:29,176
Why?
What did he do?
557
00:26:29,211 --> 00:26:31,779
It's more what he didn't do
and what he's still not doing.
558
00:26:31,813 --> 00:26:34,282
He's never sought treatment
from a psychiatrist,
559
00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:36,684
even though he's had these
fantasies since he was a child.
560
00:26:36,718 --> 00:26:37,852
So he hasn't been
fighting them?
561
00:26:37,886 --> 00:26:39,687
No, they've actually become
562
00:26:39,721 --> 00:26:42,223
progressively more graphic
over time.
563
00:26:42,257 --> 00:26:43,958
And then, a few years ago,
564
00:26:43,992 --> 00:26:47,027
it reached the point
where thinking wasn't enough.
565
00:26:47,062 --> 00:26:48,629
That's why he photoshopped
those images
566
00:26:48,663 --> 00:26:50,131
and built that chamber.
567
00:26:50,165 --> 00:26:52,266
- He's escalating.
- Like an addict.
568
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:53,634
The reward centers
of the brain
569
00:26:53,668 --> 00:26:56,137
are activated by sequentially
stronger stimuli.
570
00:26:56,171 --> 00:26:57,805
Will he act
on these impulses?
571
00:26:57,839 --> 00:26:59,807
Well, here's another analogy.
572
00:26:59,841 --> 00:27:02,109
Some people just talk
about suicide,
573
00:27:02,144 --> 00:27:04,645
but we worry about them when
they go out and they buy a gun.
574
00:27:04,679 --> 00:27:05,980
And Wilkes?
575
00:27:06,014 --> 00:27:09,383
That chamber...
576
00:27:09,418 --> 00:27:11,128
It's an arsenal.
577
00:27:15,657 --> 00:27:17,792
If you had hard evidence
of any criminal acts,
578
00:27:17,826 --> 00:27:19,393
we wouldn't be here
to talk about a deal.
579
00:27:19,428 --> 00:27:20,895
What's your offer?
580
00:27:20,929 --> 00:27:22,830
Intensive supervision,
581
00:27:22,864 --> 00:27:25,099
he moves out of the school zone,
582
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:26,567
and he goes in the registry.
583
00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:27,568
So no jail time?
584
00:27:27,602 --> 00:27:29,637
Simon, quiet.
585
00:27:29,671 --> 00:27:31,972
No charges. Mr. Wilkes
hasn't done anything wrong.
586
00:27:32,007 --> 00:27:33,420
Nothing wrong?
587
00:27:34,443 --> 00:27:38,312
If a jury takes one look
at that torture chair,
588
00:27:38,347 --> 00:27:41,082
those saws, the photos...
589
00:27:41,116 --> 00:27:43,250
Is that your plan,
counselor?
590
00:27:43,285 --> 00:27:44,985
You don't have a victim,
so you're just gonna
591
00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:46,620
tar Mr. Wilkes
for his thoughts?
592
00:27:46,655 --> 00:27:48,923
It's an egregious
civil liberties violation.
593
00:27:48,957 --> 00:27:50,124
Who are you representing here?
594
00:27:50,158 --> 00:27:52,293
Your activist friends
looking for a test case
595
00:27:52,327 --> 00:27:56,597
they can use for fund-raising
or your client?
596
00:27:56,631 --> 00:28:01,035
Simon, Mr. Barba is trying
to shake your confidence in me.
597
00:28:01,069 --> 00:28:04,105
I'm your lawyer.
I only care about you here.
598
00:28:04,139 --> 00:28:05,373
We're done.
599
00:28:05,407 --> 00:28:08,476
I dare you
to take this to trial.
600
00:28:16,472 --> 00:28:19,312
What can you tell us about
these prosecution exhibits?
601
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,688
The knife, the saw,
the blood funnel, ligation tubes
602
00:28:23,024 --> 00:28:26,784
were all removed by CSU from
that room after being examined.
603
00:28:26,936 --> 00:28:29,256
Based on your conversation
with Mr. Wilkes,
604
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,384
what is your understanding
of the purpose of this room?
605
00:28:32,704 --> 00:28:34,999
He told me he wanted
to torture a young boy
606
00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,262
to death in there.
607
00:28:36,373 --> 00:28:38,708
No further questions.
608
00:28:44,014 --> 00:28:46,416
Detective...
609
00:28:46,450 --> 00:28:48,918
How long have you been
with special victims?
610
00:28:48,953 --> 00:28:50,320
14 years.
611
00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:52,055
How many pedophiles
have you arrested?
612
00:28:52,089 --> 00:28:53,656
Hundreds.
613
00:28:53,691 --> 00:28:55,425
You've processed
hundreds of crime scenes.
614
00:28:55,459 --> 00:28:58,261
How unusual is it
to come across one
615
00:28:58,295 --> 00:29:00,496
where there's no evidence
of an actual crime?
616
00:29:00,531 --> 00:29:02,532
It happens.
617
00:29:02,566 --> 00:29:04,767
Didn't CSU find DNA
and fingerprints from my client
618
00:29:04,802 --> 00:29:08,371
yet not one shred of forensic
evidence from anyone else?
619
00:29:08,405 --> 00:29:09,605
Yes.
620
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,076
So there's no proof
that he tortured anyone
621
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:16,512
or even brought anyone
into that room or anywhere else.
622
00:29:16,547 --> 00:29:18,381
Maybe not,
but he was planning to.
623
00:29:18,415 --> 00:29:23,253
Well, we can't know that
for sure, can we?
624
00:29:25,289 --> 00:29:28,625
Detective, when you interrogated
my client, you told him
625
00:29:28,659 --> 00:29:31,928
you also needed an outlet
due to the strains of your job.
626
00:29:31,962 --> 00:29:34,697
- Was that true?
- No.
627
00:29:34,732 --> 00:29:38,234
So you were lying, sharing
a fantasy to get a reaction.
628
00:29:38,269 --> 00:29:42,205
How do you know Mr. Wilkes
wasn't doing the same thing?
629
00:29:42,239 --> 00:29:43,940
He built a room.
630
00:29:43,974 --> 00:29:46,142
Which no one else
was ever in.
631
00:29:46,176 --> 00:29:47,310
But he wanted
to bring a boy there.
632
00:29:47,344 --> 00:29:49,345
Well, can you predict
someone's behavior
633
00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:50,647
based on past statements?
634
00:29:50,681 --> 00:29:52,916
Well, not always,
but in this case, absolutely.
635
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:54,550
Oh, really?
Could anyone have predicted
636
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:55,952
that you would have
snapped one night
637
00:29:55,986 --> 00:29:57,620
and gone after three boys
with a baseball bat?
638
00:29:57,655 --> 00:29:59,255
- Objection, relevance.
- They came after me.
639
00:29:59,290 --> 00:30:00,657
All right, they sprayed
my house with bullets.
640
00:30:00,691 --> 00:30:02,091
Objection!
641
00:30:02,126 --> 00:30:04,894
Withdrawn.
642
00:30:07,398 --> 00:30:09,265
In my work
as a forensic psychiatrist,
643
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,468
I evaluate victims
and sex offenders.
644
00:30:12,503 --> 00:30:15,738
By "offenders," you mean
violent, sadistic criminals
645
00:30:15,773 --> 00:30:19,409
who inflict lasting damage
on helpless victims, right?
646
00:30:19,443 --> 00:30:20,977
Sometimes.
647
00:30:21,011 --> 00:30:23,246
And you would put my client
in that category?
648
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,181
In terms
of his intentions, yes.
649
00:30:25,215 --> 00:30:28,451
In terms of his intentions.
650
00:30:28,485 --> 00:30:30,019
Doctor, isn't the difference
651
00:30:30,054 --> 00:30:32,622
that my client hasn't
actually committed a crime?
652
00:30:32,656 --> 00:30:34,490
- Objection, your honor.
- Sustained.
653
00:30:34,525 --> 00:30:38,161
Please limit your questions to
the witness' area of expertise.
654
00:30:38,195 --> 00:30:39,162
Of course.
655
00:30:39,196 --> 00:30:40,697
Doctor, are you telling the jury
656
00:30:40,731 --> 00:30:43,967
that you can predict
beyond a reasonable doubt
657
00:30:44,001 --> 00:30:46,135
when someone
is going to commit a crime?
658
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:47,904
I'm making an evaluation.
659
00:30:47,938 --> 00:30:49,539
Ah, yes, 'cause you're not
just a psychiatrist,
660
00:30:49,573 --> 00:30:51,908
- you're also a psychic?
- Objection.
661
00:30:51,942 --> 00:30:54,177
Withdrawn.
Nothing further.
662
00:30:57,114 --> 00:30:58,414
Did you get a read
on the jury?
663
00:30:58,449 --> 00:31:00,149
They're sickened
by the details,
664
00:31:00,184 --> 00:31:02,085
but our emotional case is
stronger than our legal one is.
665
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,086
Simon's taking the stand
tomorrow?
666
00:31:04,421 --> 00:31:05,588
Jury's gonna see him
for who he really is.
667
00:31:05,623 --> 00:31:07,357
I hope so.
He's compartmentalized
668
00:31:07,391 --> 00:31:09,025
this part of his life
for all those years.
669
00:31:09,059 --> 00:31:10,360
He may be able to hide it
from them.
670
00:31:10,394 --> 00:31:15,265
- Not from his ex-wife.
She's willing to talk to us.
671
00:31:17,735 --> 00:31:21,004
I don't know how you found me.
672
00:31:21,038 --> 00:31:24,674
I changed my name,
got off the Internet.
673
00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:28,177
I don't think Simon even knows
where I moved after I remarried.
674
00:31:28,212 --> 00:31:32,081
Sounds like you needed
a clean break.
675
00:31:32,116 --> 00:31:35,752
When we met,
I found Simon magnetic.
676
00:31:35,786 --> 00:31:38,021
But he has a darkness
inside of him.
677
00:31:38,055 --> 00:31:40,190
You knew
about these fantasies?
678
00:31:40,224 --> 00:31:43,960
Not the extent of them,
not at first,
679
00:31:43,994 --> 00:31:47,363
but then I started to notice
how he would shut the laptop
680
00:31:47,398 --> 00:31:50,300
whenever I came into the room.
681
00:31:50,334 --> 00:31:51,868
One time, he left it open.
682
00:31:51,902 --> 00:31:56,072
And what did you see,
Ms. Walker?
683
00:31:56,106 --> 00:31:59,576
He was messaging
with these other people,
684
00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:01,978
talking about Bobby and me,
685
00:32:02,012 --> 00:32:06,816
about things
he'd let them do to us.
686
00:32:06,851 --> 00:32:10,653
Our child was six.
687
00:32:10,688 --> 00:32:12,755
He said it was just a game,
688
00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:15,925
but he knew,
he knew he had to go.
689
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,296
I told Bobby,
"daddy has a sickness.
690
00:32:20,331 --> 00:32:25,001
He can't be
around other people."
691
00:32:25,035 --> 00:32:27,503
I made a deal with Simon.
692
00:32:27,538 --> 00:32:30,206
As long as he promised
to never see Bobby again
693
00:32:30,241 --> 00:32:35,512
or be around other children,
I would keep quiet.
694
00:32:35,546 --> 00:32:38,314
This room of his...
695
00:32:38,349 --> 00:32:41,351
It's across from a grade school?
696
00:32:44,422 --> 00:32:48,057
Finally, Mr. Wilkes, you chose
to take the stand today,
697
00:32:48,092 --> 00:32:50,260
even though I advised you
not to.
698
00:32:50,294 --> 00:32:52,095
Can you tell the jury why?
699
00:32:52,129 --> 00:32:54,764
I wanted them to know
who I am,
700
00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:57,500
a man with a normal life.
701
00:32:57,535 --> 00:32:59,502
I'm married.
702
00:32:59,537 --> 00:33:01,337
My wife is here.
703
00:33:01,372 --> 00:33:04,073
I take photographs of weddings
and bar mitzvahs.
704
00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:06,943
What happened to me
could happen to them.
705
00:33:06,977 --> 00:33:09,879
Thank you.
Nothing further.
706
00:33:14,051 --> 00:33:16,953
Mr. Wilkes...
707
00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:18,855
You testified earlier
708
00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:22,125
that your fantasies have nothing
to do with real life.
709
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,260
Correct?
There's no crossover.
710
00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:26,801
Mm-hmm. You mentioned
your wife is here.
711
00:33:27,998 --> 00:33:30,967
- Do you have any other family?
- Objection, relevance.
712
00:33:31,001 --> 00:33:32,302
A little latitude,
your honor.
713
00:33:32,336 --> 00:33:33,870
This will speak
to state of mind.
714
00:33:33,904 --> 00:33:36,306
I'll allow for now.
715
00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:39,275
Your wife,
is she your first wife?
716
00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:41,010
I was married before.
717
00:33:41,045 --> 00:33:43,112
I'm divorced,
like a lot of people.
718
00:33:43,147 --> 00:33:45,615
And you also have a son.
719
00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:48,885
Do you see your ex-wife
and your son often?
720
00:33:48,919 --> 00:33:50,286
No, I don't think
that has any...
721
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:53,690
You don't?
Can you think harder?
722
00:34:14,078 --> 00:34:15,245
Let me ask you again,
Mr. Wilkes,
723
00:34:15,279 --> 00:34:17,313
and remember,
you are under oath.
724
00:34:17,348 --> 00:34:20,950
Why have you
not been in contact
725
00:34:20,985 --> 00:34:25,155
with your ex-wife
or your son?
726
00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:36,900
Because I knew
I couldn't be around them.
727
00:34:36,934 --> 00:34:39,035
Why is that?
728
00:34:41,038 --> 00:34:43,940
Because of the pictures
in my head.
729
00:34:43,974 --> 00:34:44,941
Which you can't control?
730
00:34:44,975 --> 00:34:47,610
- Objection.
- Sustained.
731
00:34:47,645 --> 00:34:49,379
Isn't it true that your
first wife asked you to leave
732
00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:50,814
when you admitted
that you were afraid
733
00:34:50,848 --> 00:34:52,082
you would act on your urges?
734
00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:53,716
Objection!
735
00:34:53,751 --> 00:34:56,019
I made... I made the decision
to leave.
736
00:34:56,053 --> 00:35:00,356
I didn't hurt him.
737
00:35:00,391 --> 00:35:03,793
He's my son.
I didn't hurt him.
738
00:35:03,828 --> 00:35:06,629
I would never.
739
00:35:28,491 --> 00:35:32,483
Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Wilkes.
740
00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:36,650
Mr. Wilkes
went beyond just thought.
741
00:35:38,157 --> 00:35:42,327
He watched streaming videos
of boys being tortured.
742
00:35:42,361 --> 00:35:47,866
He built a dissection chamber,
fully functioning,
743
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:52,370
with electric saws, and a drain
in the floor for blood.
744
00:35:52,404 --> 00:35:55,907
His own hidden art photos
745
00:35:55,941 --> 00:35:57,876
provide graphic evidence
of exactly what he intended
746
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:59,878
to do in that chamber.
747
00:35:59,912 --> 00:36:04,716
Simon Wilkes left
his only son...
748
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:05,984
And never saw him again
749
00:36:06,018 --> 00:36:09,821
because he was that afraid
of his own fantasies.
750
00:36:09,855 --> 00:36:11,423
And if the defendant
751
00:36:11,457 --> 00:36:14,025
was that convinced
that he would eventually act,
752
00:36:14,059 --> 00:36:17,595
that he would torture
his own son,
753
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:23,234
torture him
or even kill him...
754
00:36:23,269 --> 00:36:25,637
Shouldn't we be?
755
00:36:35,247 --> 00:36:37,849
Ladies and gentlemen,
756
00:36:37,883 --> 00:36:41,052
Mr. Barba
has brought a case
757
00:36:41,087 --> 00:36:44,153
with no evidence, no victim,
758
00:36:44,824 --> 00:36:46,297
no crime.
759
00:36:47,259 --> 00:36:52,103
What he has is a defendant
he doesn't like...
760
00:36:53,265 --> 00:36:54,699
An artist.
761
00:36:54,733 --> 00:36:57,202
Has Mr. Wilkes
pushed boundaries?
762
00:36:57,236 --> 00:36:58,269
Yes.
763
00:36:58,304 --> 00:37:01,873
But has he ever harmed anyone?
764
00:37:01,907 --> 00:37:04,209
No.
765
00:37:04,243 --> 00:37:07,545
The pictures you saw
were photoshopped.
766
00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:10,782
The idea of procuring a boy
767
00:37:10,816 --> 00:37:13,251
came from
the undercover officer.
768
00:37:13,285 --> 00:37:16,087
The scene of the "crime"
769
00:37:16,122 --> 00:37:19,744
contained Mr. Wilkes' DNA only.
770
00:37:21,594 --> 00:37:24,963
I'd like you
to ask yourselves,
771
00:37:24,997 --> 00:37:27,332
have you ever had thoughts
772
00:37:27,366 --> 00:37:31,269
you knew
you would never act on?
773
00:37:31,303 --> 00:37:32,537
I know I have.
774
00:37:32,571 --> 00:37:35,673
I'm sure the D.A. has.
775
00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:37,742
Cheating on your spouse?
776
00:37:41,514 --> 00:37:45,984
Killing your boss,
maybe an in-law?
777
00:37:46,018 --> 00:37:47,786
Think about it.
778
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:52,090
Better yet,
don't think about it.
779
00:37:52,124 --> 00:37:54,325
Don't.
780
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,863
Otherwise you'll be
where Mr. Wilkes is now.
781
00:38:21,153 --> 00:38:24,989
Nice summation.
782
00:38:25,024 --> 00:38:27,092
- Nice move
sneaking his ex-wife and son
783
00:38:27,126 --> 00:38:28,360
into the courtroom
to rattle him.
784
00:38:28,394 --> 00:38:30,095
Even for you,
that was a low blow.
785
00:38:30,129 --> 00:38:33,164
You ever ask yourself
why it rattled him so much?
786
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:34,899
What the hell kind of thoughts
does he have in his head
787
00:38:34,934 --> 00:38:37,235
about his own son?
788
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:38,770
You really want to live
in a world
789
00:38:38,804 --> 00:38:43,475
where you can be put in prison
for what's inside your head?
790
00:38:58,824 --> 00:39:01,393
Has the jury
reached a verdict?
791
00:39:01,427 --> 00:39:05,163
We have, your honor.
792
00:39:05,197 --> 00:39:07,298
On the charge
of attempted kidnapping,
793
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,368
we find the defendant
not guilty.
794
00:39:10,403 --> 00:39:14,005
On the charge of attempted
sexual abuse of a child,
795
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,608
we find the defendant
not guilty.
796
00:39:20,246 --> 00:39:22,280
Ladies and gentlemen,
I thank you for your service.
797
00:39:39,131 --> 00:39:40,899
Jury deliberated
less than three hours.
798
00:39:40,933 --> 00:39:43,068
I wouldn't take it
personally.
799
00:39:43,102 --> 00:39:45,870
You put up a good fight.
800
00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:48,640
Right this way.
Enjoy.
801
00:39:58,684 --> 00:40:01,252
Let it go, Nick.
802
00:40:01,287 --> 00:40:03,521
We gave it our best shot.
803
00:40:03,556 --> 00:40:05,257
Right, and that's it, right?
804
00:40:05,291 --> 00:40:09,227
We just wait for Simon
to do something?
805
00:40:09,261 --> 00:40:10,662
He's not gonna stop.
806
00:40:10,696 --> 00:40:13,598
You can't let it get
in your head, detective.
807
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,908
So I got you a snack
for the ride home.
808
00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:25,343
I'll miss you, daddy.
809
00:40:25,378 --> 00:40:27,912
I'll miss you too, mi Amor.
810
00:40:30,249 --> 00:40:32,884
Okay, so we'll keep talking,
huh?
811
00:40:32,918 --> 00:40:36,221
Actually, Nick, um, I told
them I'm gonna take the job.
812
00:40:36,255 --> 00:40:38,156
They needed an answer
right away,
813
00:40:38,190 --> 00:40:39,557
and it's too good an offer.
814
00:40:39,592 --> 00:40:40,925
Hey, just like that,
you're gonna take
815
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,627
my daughter out of my life?
816
00:40:42,662 --> 00:40:44,095
No, you can come out
and live nearby.
817
00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:45,096
Yeah, and do what?
818
00:40:45,131 --> 00:40:47,032
Check I.D.S
at a movie studio gate?
819
00:40:47,066 --> 00:40:48,867
What, you want me to leave
my mother, my son?
820
00:40:48,901 --> 00:40:50,769
Hey, you want me to fight?
821
00:40:50,803 --> 00:40:52,037
I could fight you.
Want me to take you to court?
822
00:40:52,071 --> 00:40:53,672
- Is that what...
- Nick, I care about you,
823
00:40:53,706 --> 00:40:55,273
and I can see that you're
under a lot of pressure.
824
00:40:55,307 --> 00:40:56,608
- No, hey, don't, don't do that.
- You know what?
825
00:40:56,642 --> 00:40:57,976
If you take this to court,
you're gonna force me
826
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:59,444
to bring up things
that you don't want on record.
827
00:40:59,478 --> 00:41:01,112
So for your sake
and for Zara's,
828
00:41:01,147 --> 00:41:04,482
you better let this go.
829
00:41:25,404 --> 00:41:28,540
You got five seconds
to put that down.
830
00:41:28,574 --> 00:41:30,241
It's a public sidewalk,
detective.
831
00:41:30,276 --> 00:41:32,911
You can't control me.
832
00:41:32,945 --> 00:41:34,779
Smile.
833
00:41:34,814 --> 00:41:36,414
Hey! Hey! Hey!
834
00:41:36,449 --> 00:41:40,585
Leave me alone!
835
00:41:42,188 --> 00:41:44,422
Help!
Someone call the police!
836
00:41:45,791 --> 00:41:48,193
Please! Please stop!
837
00:41:51,664 --> 00:41:52,631
Hands up
where we can see them.
838
00:41:52,665 --> 00:41:54,799
Hands in the air.
839
00:41:54,834 --> 00:41:56,701
I'm on the job.
I'm on the job.
840
00:41:56,736 --> 00:41:59,204
- Come on, kids.
- Keep 'em up. Keep 'em up.
841
00:41:59,238 --> 00:42:00,438
I'm on the job, man!
842
00:42:00,473 --> 00:42:01,873
You're under arrest.
843
00:42:01,907 --> 00:42:04,476
We need an ambulance.
844
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,822
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00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00
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