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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,560 COLIN: I was at home on the day that I got the call, 2 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,000 it was 7:00 in the morning. 3 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,320 The on-call superintendent was trying to get a hold of me 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,720 because there was a new investigation 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,520 that I was gonna have to take. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,640 It was a case of get yourself down to Twickenham with your team, 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,400 a girl has been murdered by being battered on the head. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,680 It's a stranger attack and we don't know an awful lot else 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,840 at the moment. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,160 Was this someone who could be a serial attacker 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,160 who could go on to strike again? 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,200 As it turned out, yes. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,240 This is someone with a real propensity 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,960 of horrific violence to young women. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,400 The more I've seen of horrible things that happen 16 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:53,240 in the world and some of these things 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,480 can happen to anyone. 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,640 This was a high-profile job 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,200 and he was under some serious pressure here, 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 when he made a decision, he stuck with his guns, you know. 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,200 It's always absolutely crucial, you think about 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,360 what you're doing 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,200 in the first stages of an investigation, 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,120 by 9:00 that morning I was down at Twickenham police station. 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,920 It was a crime of almost breathtaking... 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,400 The man who tried to kill her will never be free to harm again. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,760 (INDISTINCT CROSSTALK) 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,960 ...targeted young women unable to defend themselves. 29 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,280 SCOTT PEDEN (NARRATES): Colin Sutton 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,880 was a Detective Chief Inspector and senior investigating officer 31 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,920 in the metropolitan police. 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,600 He let the investigations into some of the most complex 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 and high profile cases ever, 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 bringing dangerous criminals to justice. 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,360 He showed his cowardliness... 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,880 (INDISTINCT CROSSTALK) 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Another 146 victims... 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920 In this series he will take you inside those cases 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,080 and show you how he caught these criminals 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,960 using nothing but pure detective work. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,440 This is The Real Manhunter. 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Now been found guilty on all 20... 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,400 (INDISTINCT CROSSTALK) 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,960 The officer in charge described it as a senseless tragedy. 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,040 The life sentence may provide some closure 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 for his victim's families. 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Twickenham Green on a summer's day, like we've seen, 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,960 is normally a hive of activity, people enjoying themselves, 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,000 this oasis of green in suburban London. 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,400 But when I came here on a summer's day in 2004, 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,320 it was because there'd been a murder and when I arrived here, 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,560 the whole green was cordoned off, 53 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:45,480 taped off preventing people using it at all. 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Twickenham Green's sort of a big triangular shape piece of land 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,560 with a path running through the middle of it 56 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:53,200 and roads on all three sides. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 It's a cricket pitch with a cricket club and a pavilion 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,720 and it's where families take their children 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,960 and walk their dogs. 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,600 It's in a very safe, pleasant, quiet corner of London, 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,960 we were certainly not used 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,120 to conducting murder investigations there. 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Arriving to take over that investigation, 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,080 the first thing that struck me was the scale of the open space, 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,440 the scale of the cordon. 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,360 There was a woman had been murdered, 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,440 there was scenes of crime tent over there protecting 68 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,120 where she'd been found but we didn't know who she was, 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,800 where she'd come from, how she got here 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,400 and that meant that this entire swathe of green 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,560 was potentially my crime scene. 72 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,880 And trying to make a forensic examination, 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240 a fingertip search of that sort of area 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,480 takes a huge number of resources. 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,320 It's always absolutely crucial 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,080 what you're doing in the first stages 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,400 of an investigation because decisions 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,720 that are made then can have a profound effect 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,840 on how the investigation goes, and you need to make sure really 80 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,360 that you don't miss any chances to preserve evidence 81 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,320 that you might want to come across later, 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,240 you know, you might want to go back to later. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Colin very quickly identified 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,000 the fact that how important 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,840 this...this...this evidence 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:11,880 is going to be. 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,000 If you make mistakes in the beginning, 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,440 you're almost done. 89 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,320 The first thing that I did was to get the scene widened 90 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,800 so that we taped off the pavement as well so that passers-by 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,080 had to walk on the other side of the roads 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,800 which meant they weren't able to put debris into the crime scene. 93 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,040 It was really a question of getting officers from search team 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,760 to do a fine fingertip search around the immediate location 95 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,400 of where the body was found to see 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,320 if there was anything that would give us a clue 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880 as to who'd done it and what had happened. 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,480 The body was discovered around about quarter past ten 99 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,400 in the evening when it was obviously dark here 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,960 by a man who lived locally... 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,720 he just went out for a quick walk round the green to get some air. 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,200 And he saw what he thought at first was a bin bag or a bag of rags, 103 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:02,520 it was only when he went over and looked more closely he realised 104 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,120 it was the body of a woman, dressed in white, 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 with a carrier bag nearby to her. 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,960 And he found that she was still alive, 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,400 she was still breathing, and he went away to get help, 108 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,920 to raise the alarm. 109 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,480 The police and ambulance service turned up very quickly afterwards 110 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,880 and she was taken to the Kingston Hospital 111 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,760 and what the medical staff told us at the hospital 112 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,680 was that the severity of her injury was such 113 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,880 that she couldn't have been lying there very long 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,200 and she survived minutes rather than hours. 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,280 What you need to do is to try and find out more about your victim 116 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,040 and find out the journey she had to get here, why she was here, 117 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 where she lived, where she was going. 118 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:53,840 That morning, we didn't know any of that 119 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,720 and it literally was a dead body in the middle of Twickenham Green, 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,800 let's go an investigate it. 121 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,640 It's only as that day unfolded that we started to know more 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,080 about the victim and more about what happened 123 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,800 that night in August 2004, 124 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,360 that we were able to prioritise our work 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,960 and really start making some progress in the investigation. 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Nearby was her carrier bag 127 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,320 and it had some clothing, some shopping in it. 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,160 But also in that bag was a till receipt 129 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,320 and it had some phone numbers written on it, with some names. 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,240 And one of those names was "Olivier." 131 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,160 It turned out he was the boyfriend of the victim 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,960 and he was able to tell them, 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,200 "Yes her name is Amelie, 134 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:40,840 "Amelie Delagrange, she lives 135 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,600 "just near Twickenham Green" 136 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 and that she worked as a waitress 137 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,160 in a patisserie in Richmond. 138 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,840 I don't think I got home 139 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,040 until past 2:00 the following morning, 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 so it's been a long day as well, and it's a long day 141 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,280 where I'm thinking, double thinking everything 142 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,520 that I'm doing because it's so important 143 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,560 to get things right at the early stage. 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,840 By the Saturday morning we went back to Twickenham Police Station 145 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,240 and we had a, what we like to refer to as a "Scrum-down," 146 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,480 basically a team meeting/briefing and it's... 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,320 you know, this is where the work's done. 148 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,400 So, I've got information coming in from my intelligence officers, 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,720 from my inquiry officers, some, in that case, 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,960 from the borough as well. 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,120 They were all feeding in and word was getting around 152 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,840 that this was a young girl that had been 153 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,800 just brutally murdered by a stranger. 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,640 There was a, kind of, palpable fear in the community 155 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,440 but there was also a sense that they wanted to do something to help. 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,600 I was part of the investigation into Amelie Delagrange's murder 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 from the beginning. 158 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,280 My role was known as "receiver." 159 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,640 The idea is you identify lines of inquiry, 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,280 the priorities, very quickly. 161 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Lots of people would try to give information about 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,200 what they thought might help. 163 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Our first crucial task that day was to try to plot the movements 164 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,160 that Amelie had made on the evening before she was murdered. 165 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,320 As is often the case, CCTV came to our assistance. 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,720 It's very important to get CCTV recovery rolling, 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,120 really straight away, 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000 because if you lose the footage, 169 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,040 it's gone forever. 170 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,360 The scene, being in the middle of a green, 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,920 per se would not be covered by CCTV. 172 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,840 But you can't get there without almost certainly being caught 173 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,320 on CCTV and Colin very quickly identified the fact that, 174 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,280 how important this evidence is going to be. 175 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Amelie had been at work at the French Patisserie in Richmond. 176 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:39,040 And after work she came here to Twickenham to meet some friends 177 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,880 in a wine bar called "Cristalz," over there. 178 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,520 She had three or four glasses of wine 179 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,320 and while she was there she phoned her boyfriend, 180 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,400 but he was busy and couldn't meet up with her. 181 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 So, it got to 9:30 and she thought, "Well, I'll call it a day" 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,040 and she came across the road here 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,200 and caught a bus back to Twickenham Green. 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,760 It was on that bus that she missed her stop 185 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,720 and that was her fateful mistake, 186 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,640 because if she had got off at the correct stop, 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,320 she would have had a short walk to home 188 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,480 and she would never have encountered her killer. 189 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,680 The bus she got on goes towards the bus garage 190 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,720 at Fullwell where it terminates. 191 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,760 And that means it takes the southern road, 192 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,160 the bottom road along Twickenham Green. 193 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,560 So, what she had to do was get off at the stop at Twickenham Green, 194 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,920 walk across the green and to her house 195 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,080 which was in Gould Road 196 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,040 which was a couple of streets north of the green. 197 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,080 She had not gotten off at Twickenham Green 198 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,040 and she was still on the bus 199 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,520 when it got to the terminus at Fullwell bus garage. 200 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:37,600 That's the bus stop that she should have got off, 201 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,800 it's a short walk across the green and up to where she lived. 202 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 For whatever reason, we don't know, she missed her stop and instead, 203 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:46,480 she's carried on for around a mile, down Hampton Road 204 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,360 until the bus garage at Fullwell. 205 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,200 And when she gets there, the bus terminates 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,640 and she asks the driver 207 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,880 when the next bus back up to the Green would be 208 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,480 and he said, "About ten minutes." 209 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:57,840 And it was a nice summer's evening, you can imagine, 210 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,560 Amelie thought, "Well, I've got a decision, 211 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,000 "do I wait ten minutes for the bus 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,560 "or shall I just walk the mile back." 213 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Fatefully for her, she decided to walk. 214 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,320 And she's walked all the way back up Hampton Road, 215 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,320 she'd have to go across Twickenham Green to get to her home. 216 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,600 And all those buses at Fullwell bus garage at that time 217 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:20,440 had just been fitted with CCTV cameras, 218 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,400 and they had either six or eight cameras 219 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,840 that were facing inside and outside and it recorded onto a hard drive, 220 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,880 it was all timed with the atomic clock, 221 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,240 it was, you know, pretty much as good as you could get 222 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,440 for CCTV in those days. 223 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,560 We've got CCTV pictures of Amelie getting on the bus, 224 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,480 CCTV pictures of her talking to the bus driver 225 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:41,560 and getting off the bus down at Fullwell. 226 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,720 So, it then became a question of going back up her walk, 227 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,360 up Hampton road, and seeing what opportunities 228 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,360 for CCTV there might be there. 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600 There were three or four 230 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,360 static CCTV cameras, 231 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,360 one at the Loch Fyne Restaurant... 232 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,040 there was an accountant's 233 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,280 that had CCTV as well 234 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,480 and, indeed, a police car, 235 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:02,560 a traffic police car 236 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,600 that had one of the video cameras 237 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,080 running at the time. 238 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,160 But also, of course, there were buses, 239 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400 other buses, going up and down this road all the time 240 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,640 and they had the CCTV running, so by the time we were able 241 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,320 to get all the buses CCTV, we were able to get a dozen 242 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,280 or so points where we could fix 243 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,200 "This is where Amelie was at that time" 244 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,320 and we could plot her walk all the way back up 245 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,640 to Twickenham Green and it was only when she went 246 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,640 onto the green that there was no more CCTV 247 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,200 and she was found in the middle of the green. 248 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,360 So, we had everything apart from the last 70 or 80 yards 249 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,560 of her journey. 250 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,920 What it showed us was that about 10:05 that evening, 251 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,240 she came though this side of the pavilion, 252 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,800 she'd have to walk across here, around the Cricket wicket 253 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,040 and she would be over to where she lived. 254 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,200 But we also know she was intercepted. 255 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,760 We think that her attacker came onto the green from this side 256 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,240 of the Cricket Pavilion, followed her, 257 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,400 and it was when she was just beyond the Cricket wicket 258 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,840 that he attacked her, hitting her across the back of the head 259 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,360 with something quite heavy, and causing a fatal injury. 260 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 One of the first things that needs to be done in a murder investigation 261 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,560 is to make sure the next of kin are informed, it's more difficult 262 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,440 when the next of kin are abroad as they were in this case. 263 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Amelie's parents lived in a little village called 264 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Hanvoile in Picardy in France. 265 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,840 We had a couple of French speaking officers seconded 266 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,960 to the team. 267 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,200 They phoned our French colleagues and explained the situation to them. 268 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,840 And essentially, at first they said, 269 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,200 "Well, we'll get their phone number for you, 270 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,600 "you can phone them up," and we, sort of, said, 271 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,120 "No, that's not how we do it, we'll send someone round there," 272 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,200 and they said, "Well, no, that's not how we do it." 273 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 When Colin found out that this was 274 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,440 how they were going to be informed, 275 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,200 he asked them not to phone 276 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,920 and arranged for somebody to go round in person 277 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,360 to speak to them because he felt that was a kinder, 278 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 more humane way of informing somebody 279 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:18,240 that their daughter had been killed, and in such an appalling way. 280 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Eventually, I kind of... 281 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,720 it was almost a veiled threat really. 282 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 But I said, "Well, I'm not gonna have them phoned up 283 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,800 "and told about it, if we need to send somebody, 284 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,760 "then I'll get somebody from the British Embassy in Paris 285 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,680 "and see if they will go round there and do it." 286 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,360 And I think that the prospect of me involving the, sort of, 287 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,600 diplomats in it might have had some effect 288 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,320 and the French police said, 289 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,440 "Oh, OK then, we'll go round," sort of begrudgingly. 290 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 I later found out when speaking to Amelie's parents 291 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,320 that what indeed they'd done was they had gone round there, 292 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 there were two detectives in a car parked on the drive, 293 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,280 Amelie's father came home from work 294 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,520 and they got out of the car and said, "Are you Mr Delagrange?" 295 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,800 And he said, "Yes," and they said, "Oh, can you ring this number, 296 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,400 "your daughter has been murdered in England," 297 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,760 and they got in the car and drove off. 298 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,800 They didn't even go in the house, they never even entered the house. 299 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,120 The first time the police officers went into the Delagrange's house 300 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,800 about Amelie's murder 301 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,520 was when I went over there to the funeral. 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,760 So, it's just, kind of, an example of how priorities are different 303 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,800 in different countries and things are done in different ways 304 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,920 I suppose. 305 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Even at that point there was an awareness amongst 306 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,280 all of us that this might not be the only one of these, 307 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,880 that there had been other attacks where women had been hit 308 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,120 on the back of the head by a stranger. 309 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,880 There was I suppose the first feeling 310 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,480 that this was going to be one of those cases 311 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,400 where you had this element of pressure to succeed quickly, 312 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,440 to try and protect other people. 313 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,360 And I think we all realised that pretty early on, 314 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 and so that probably added 315 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,120 to the sombre atmosphere that there was. 316 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,000 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 317 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,760 A little while into the investigation, 318 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,960 I was made aware of another case as of Kate Sheedy, in May 2004. 319 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Kate had been walking home, just got off a bus in Isleworth, 320 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,840 but she had seen this vehicle 321 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,160 that she thought was laying in wait for her. 322 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Kate was 18 years old, she had been to Twickenham town centre 323 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,840 with some school friends to celebrate the last day of lessons 324 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,120 because they were all dispersed and took their A levels. 325 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,280 She got the bus back from Twickenham to home, 326 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,960 getting off at that bus stop down there. 327 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,840 She then had a short, 200-yard walk, to her home. 328 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,840 The suspect's vehicle, a white people carrier 329 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,160 had followed the bus. 330 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Kate was concerned about this particular vehicle, 331 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,960 concerned enough to cross the road, try and get out the way. 332 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,400 She started walking along the pavement 333 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,920 and she saw ahead of her, a white people carrier. 334 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 It had blacked out windows and she thought it was odd 335 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 because the engine was running but the lights were off. 336 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,880 And she was intelligent enough to sense something might be wrong 337 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,480 and she'd heard stories of girls being dragged into cars and abducted 338 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,600 and so forth. 339 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,360 So, to be on the safe side, she thought "I'll cross the road." 340 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,680 So, she crossed onto the pavement on this side 341 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,000 and walked on this side until she got to this point here. 342 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,640 When she was here, the people carrier 343 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,680 suddenly lurched forward at speed, turned right and knocked her down. 344 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,400 She fell to the ground, 345 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,920 the front wheel of the people carrier 346 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,040 when over her body and stopped, and then it went backwards, 347 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:42,040 reversed over her again, into the main road, and drove away. 348 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,960 His whole intent 349 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,560 was truly horrendous, 350 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,240 to do that to that young person, 351 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,760 probably because she's a person 352 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,200 way out of his reach. 353 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Kate suffered terrible injuries, 354 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,360 every one of her ribs was broken, 355 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,040 her liver was split in two, 356 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,600 but she remained 357 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,040 conscious throughout. 358 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,560 And she managed to crawl a few yards, 359 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,880 recovering her mobile phone 360 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 which she'd dropped during the incident. 361 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,600 And she dialled her mother and told her mother, 362 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,960 "I'm here, I've been knocked over, I need help," 363 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,920 and then dialled 9-9-9 to get the police 364 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,280 and the ambulance to come, 365 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:24,440 showing the courage that she showed throughout 366 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,400 this ordeal she suffered. 367 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:47,560 You can hear in her phone call, 368 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,320 how desperate that person is, at that point. 369 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,000 If you replace being hit on the head with being run over 370 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,080 by a people carrier, then actually the profile of the victim, 371 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 the location, the sort of blitz attack, 372 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,960 everything was sort of similar. 373 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,000 So, I kept a real, sort of, open and undecided mind on 374 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,040 whether that might be one of our cases as well. 375 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,880 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 376 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,080 When I started on this investigation, 377 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,160 I was aware of the Marsha McDonnell murder, 378 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,440 I knew Marsha had been murdered in Hampton, 379 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,600 not too far away, more than a year, 18 months previously. 380 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 And I also knew that it was investigated 381 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,280 by another murder team, one from Hendon 382 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,800 and that they had, what they considered to be 383 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,000 a very good suspect who was arrested. 384 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,880 So, Marsha had been at the cinema in Kingston with her friends. 385 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,320 And she got the 1-1-1 bus home, here to Percy Road. 386 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,600 And it was about 20 past midnight 387 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,880 when she arrived here at this bus stop. 388 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,040 Marsha McDonnell got off the bus, walked down the road, 389 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:05,480 turned right towards her home address, 390 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,760 the suspect followed her, 391 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,680 drove around the bus and pulled into the road behind her. 392 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,440 We think he propositioned her, then he got out of the car 393 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,920 and struck her on the back of the head with a heavy object, 394 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,560 and she sadly died from that injury. 395 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,120 This was now the third case 396 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,400 we were investigating 397 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,880 which involved a victim 398 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,120 who had just been on a bus 399 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,440 and was accosted near a bus stop. 400 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,720 Marsha's murder was another big story for the media 401 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,440 and a very worrying story, I think, for the population. 402 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,480 There is no apparent explanation 403 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,240 for to why this would have happened 404 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,680 other than it possibly 405 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,520 being a serial attacker 406 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040 or someone that is striking at random. 407 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,320 We know from other victims 408 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,400 that have been hit over the head 409 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,360 with a hammer from behind 410 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,800 that there was no interaction, 411 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,400 he just went up behind them 412 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,920 and hit them over the head with a hammer. 413 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,840 And Marsha's mother, 414 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,840 having seen a picture for Amelie 415 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,400 the day after her murder, 416 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 was very struck by the similarity 417 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,240 in their appearances 418 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,480 as well as the similarity 419 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,480 in the modus operandi, 420 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,440 the method of their deaths. 421 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,000 At that point, the investigation 422 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080 started to merge, and the police 423 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,720 began to focus on the fact 424 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,520 that there was possibly here, 425 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,040 a serial attacker. 426 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,920 The Metropolitan Police said they were not linking it 427 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,120 to Marsha's murder, and the reason for that was that 428 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440 they were looking at this other suspect, 429 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,000 who they felt murdered Marsha. 430 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,840 On the night that Marsha was murdered, 431 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,720 but before she was murdered, there was another young lady, 432 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,000 a 16-year-old girl who reported being followed 433 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 by a strange young man. 434 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,480 But when you, kind of, looked at all the detail, 435 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,600 the only thing he had actually been identified 436 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,760 for was for following this other girl, 437 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,000 there was no real connection between him and Marsha McDonnell. 438 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 At the moment, they're two separate offences 439 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,280 and we're going after Amelie, and we're concentrating on Amelie. 440 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,720 You have to go with the most recent job 441 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,040 because you have the best chances of getting the best evidence 442 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,120 and then look at the others. 443 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,200 But I was then told that there were other, 444 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,200 non-fatal attacks, nearby. 445 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Because of the way that it works, whereby if you get attacked 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,520 and you survive, your case is investigated by a couple of DCs, 447 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,320 if you get attacked badly and you die, 448 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,120 it's investigated by a murder team of 30 odd. 449 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,480 So, the non-fatal attacks in the area 450 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,880 had been left with the borough to deal with 451 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 and we were completely unaware of them on the murder team. 452 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,680 One of the first cases we think 453 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,160 that was linked to this series 454 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 was that of Anna-Maria Rennie 455 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,960 who was attacked 456 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,520 in Hospital Bridge Road 457 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080 in Whitton in October 2001, 458 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,160 this was an abduction or attempted abduction. 459 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,680 A vehicle pulls up after Anna-Maria is walking away 460 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 from a bus stop, and the suspect grabs hold of her, 461 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280 tries to drag her towards the rear of the car, 462 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,280 Anna-Maria screams, struggles, gets away 463 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,320 and fortunately for her, effectively the end of that particular attack. 464 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Edel Harbison had been walking 465 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,400 in April I think it was, 466 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,480 in 2004, walking from a restaurant 467 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,920 on the north side of Twickenham Green 468 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,960 to go home and been hit over the head, 469 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,200 dropping all of her shopping 470 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,560 and falling flat on her face, smashing her face, 471 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,120 needing reconstructive surgery. 472 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,440 We didn't know that a lady called Dawn Brunton 473 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,760 had been attacked in the same way 474 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,560 up towards Hatton Cross, 475 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,720 towards Heathrow Airport, on 5 November, 2003, 476 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,120 sustaining head injuries to the back of her head 477 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080 where she was hit and facial injuries 478 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,560 where she fell over. 479 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,760 Irma Dragoshi who was attacked 480 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,240 in Longford Village on... 481 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,200 in December 2003. 482 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,400 Irma was an Albanian woman 483 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,160 who had lived in Hounslow 484 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,440 with her husband. 485 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 She was standing at a bus stop on her way home from work 486 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,000 at about 10:00 at night when she was attacked randomly 487 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,720 by a stranger who hit her over the head with a blunt instrument, 488 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,600 and then Irma woke up in hospital with a huge injury to her head. 489 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,240 She suffered, I think, very bad neck pain and back pain, 490 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,880 very bad headaches, 491 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,040 I know that she suffered a lot for quite a long time. 492 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,480 There was another where Jesse Wilson was found 493 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,760 with a wound on the back of her head 494 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,680 and facial injuries and it was thought 495 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,080 that she had fallen over in the snow, 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,960 it wasn't even dealt with as a crime. 497 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,200 The common thing of all these victims that survived 498 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,680 is that they recall nothing at all of the attack, 499 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,800 that's quite common, that you lose a portion of your recent memory. 500 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,880 And it was only when Marsha was murdered reasonably close by, 501 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,600 four weeks later, that Jesse's case was looked at again 502 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,160 and the pathologist who had done the post-mortem examination 503 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,360 on Marsha McDonnell looked at the photographs of the injuries 504 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,080 that Jesse Wilson had, and said, "I think this is... 505 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,720 "I think this is the same person that did this." 506 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,160 Because of the lack of detail 507 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,360 and CCTV recovery 508 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,400 and lack of potential evidence, 509 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,200 her case sat as a 'probable' 510 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,920 rather than a 'definite' because we were unable to prove it. 511 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240 My strategy very much was, 512 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,400 let's stick with Amelie for the moment. 513 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,520 And the reason I said that was 514 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,440 because it was the most recent offence, 515 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,440 it hadn't ever been investigated by anybody else. 516 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,440 If and when we find a suspect, 517 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,840 then we can try and work backwards 518 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,520 and sort of retrofit him to those other offences in the past. 519 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,240 The next big piece of information that we had to consider 520 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,080 was the service provider for Amelie's mobile phone. 521 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,160 They had been able to tell us 522 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,600 that her phone was last on their network 523 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160 at 23 minutes past 10 524 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,200 and that that was in the vicinity of Walton Bridge. 525 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Walton Bridge is six, eight miles away, 526 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:16,080 we knew that she had been found by the passer by, 527 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,160 getting on for quarter past ten. 528 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,320 More interesting perhaps is the handshake, in simple terms 529 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,680 it's a phone saying, "I'm here, have you got any calls for me?" 530 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,160 And the network says, "No, it's alright, thank you, 531 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,200 "but we know where you are now." 532 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,640 What happened with Amelie's was that her phone was in the area 533 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,320 of Walton on Thames Bridge then it just suddenly disappeared. 534 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560 And that means one of, sort of, three things. 535 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,480 It's either that the phone has been put into a place 536 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,440 where there is no signal and stayed there, 537 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,120 that the phone has been deliberately broken 538 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,040 or had the battery removed to stop it functioning straight away 539 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,520 or it could been that it was thrown into water, and, of course, 540 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,280 we're talking about Walton Bridge, 541 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,840 so there is a lot of water there actually, 542 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,600 it's the river Thames. 543 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,920 When we came down here, I wanted to try to find Amelie's phone 544 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680 and her other belongings from her handbag. 545 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960 So, I had the police divers come exactly to this spot, 546 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,200 doing a dive every 15 or 20 minutes, 547 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,160 then resting and then going back down again. 548 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,240 And it was remarkable, it was just the second dive that they made, 549 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:25,000 a diver surfaces and shows us a key ring and a Sony Discman. 550 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520 And the Sony Discman is something that we knew Amelie had 551 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,440 in her handbag, but the keys were better 552 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,920 because the keys had a fob on them 553 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,360 which contained a photograph of Amelie 554 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,160 at a theme park on a log flume. 555 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,920 So, we instantly knew 556 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,760 that this set of keys must have been hers. 557 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,000 And that really then confirmed the information that we had 558 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,040 from the mobile phone company saying that whoever killed Amelie 559 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:53,640 had brought her handbag and her belongings to this spot. 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,520 The bridge here at Walton on Thames and this sort of public area aside 561 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,920 it is an important location for a number of reasons. 562 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800 First, we had the cell sighting information 563 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,800 from Amelie's mobile phone company which told us 564 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,400 that the phone was last seen on the network, 565 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,640 it was switched off or thrown into water, 566 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,240 somewhere in this area. 567 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200 That had the effect of dictating 568 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,280 to me the CCTV parameters, 569 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,320 every possible route 570 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,520 from Twickenham Green 571 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,880 to Walton Bridge that could be done 572 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,120 by car, that was the CCTV area. 573 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,200 The mobile phone were never found and, of course, 574 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,120 things are so variable with currents 575 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440 and sort of different surfaces and boats going past, 576 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 it's not really surprising, we searched there for a good while 577 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,880 for I think over two or three days but couldn't find it in the stretch 578 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,640 of area but didn't really need to, we had her keys, 579 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720 we had the mobile phone signal, we knew 580 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,800 that's where things had gone straight 581 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,880 after the murder. 582 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,720 Normally in an investigation, 583 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,920 in most murder investigations we did, we'd have one, 584 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,480 sometimes two officers looking at CCTV. 585 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,600 Such was the volume on this case that we had seven 586 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,560 and we'd gave them a dedicated room, 587 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,560 we got all the equipment that we could. 588 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680 One morning I went past there and one of them said "Governor, 589 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,200 "you need to come and see this." 590 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560 One of the most crucial parts of the CCTV was a bus camera 591 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,200 that picked up a white van parked alongside the green. 592 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,800 At almost exactly the time 593 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,960 that Amelie must have been being murdered, 594 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,840 there was a little white van parked just over there, 595 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,760 the other side of the cricket pavilion. 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,680 It was only there for less than eight minutes. 597 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,480 And by going back to other CCTV earlier in the evening 598 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,760 and slightly afterwards, they were able to reconstruct 599 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,480 what that van had been doing. 600 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,080 And it had been driving around and around Twickenham Green 601 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960 for 40 minutes. 602 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,200 It looked like somebody was hunting. 603 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,440 This van had first appeared in the Twickenham Green area 604 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,320 just after 9:40. 605 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,360 I then plotted it and had seen it on, 606 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280 I think it was 14 different occasions, 607 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880 at various points around the green over the next 608 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:01,400 three quarters of an hour. 609 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,600 The CCTV team then spent hours trawling through the footage 610 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,840 identifying the white van 611 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,920 from different angles, side views, 612 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760 back views, whatever they can get 613 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,360 from whatever footage they've got. 614 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,000 It did not include detail of the registration number, 615 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,600 but it did give quite specific detail 616 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,880 about the type. 617 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400 And luck was on our side to a degree because the van had 618 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,520 a headlight that wasn't working, 619 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,840 it had a wheel trim missing 620 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,680 from the front nearside wheel 621 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120 and it had some sort of defects at the back, 622 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,280 which made it easily identifiable on CCTV. 623 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Looking at the movements of the van and Amelie's movements together, 624 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,240 we can be certain that at some point in Hampton Road, 625 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,520 the van had passed her. 626 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,920 And not only that, her pace slowed down there, 627 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,880 as if she may have been stopped for a while. 628 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,280 And that's why we think that what happened was that 629 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 the driver of the van had seen her walking, 630 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,760 had stopped and engaged her in conversation 631 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,440 and then presumably when the proposition was declined, 632 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,320 the van carried on in front of her, parked up there, 633 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600 and the driver had lain in wait 634 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,240 and when he saw Amelie, very visible even in the dark green 635 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,160 because she had all white clothing on. 636 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,760 He came up behind her, 637 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,560 stalked her around the cricket wicket, 638 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,800 and then attacked her. 639 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,000 The thing about Colin Sutton, is he thinks outside the box. 640 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,760 And there was one window of opportunity 641 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,200 and that was around a camera on a bus, 642 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,360 that had picked up the Ford courier van around 643 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Twickenham Green at that precise time. 644 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,600 A brilliant job by his team in terms of going through all the CCTV 645 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360 from the area, a painstaking job. 646 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,600 We needed to find out who was in that van. 647 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,120 Because even if it wasn't the murderer, 648 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,080 and I had a good suspicion 649 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 that it probably was the murderer but even if it weren't the murderer, 650 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,960 it would be a potential witness, some people 651 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,880 above me thought I was... 652 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,880 I should be putting my time not on CCTV and vans, 653 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,960 but on rounding up local sex offenders 654 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,200 and the usual suspects. 655 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,600 There was kind of a difference between theoretical investigation 656 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280 and what academia might say. 657 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680 There was no obvious 658 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,520 physical sexual dimension to these attacks. 659 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,320 A sociopath or psychopath is someone who has no feelings 660 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320 about anyone whatsoever. 661 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,560 He just went up behind them 662 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,280 and hit them over the head with a hammer. 663 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,280 To say that we should be looking at sex offenders, 664 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,520 to the exclusion of somebody who was there at the time 665 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,280 just didn't make any sense to me. 666 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,160 My immediate boss didn't agree with me, 667 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600 some of my team may not have agreed with me. 668 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,160 But it was my decision, that's what I got paid to do, 669 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,960 is to make these decisions to strategise on the investigations. 670 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560 I went to the Ford Motor Company and they were able to tell me 671 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,080 from looking at the pictures and various features of it, 672 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,720 that there were approximately 25,000 registered in the UK. 673 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,040 We needed to be able to find the white Ford Courier vans 674 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,760 that were being used in the Twickenham area. 675 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Nowadays, that would be easy because there's really reliable 676 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520 automatic number plate recognition cameras and software. 677 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,800 We didn't have that. 678 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840 And so the only other way of doing it was by human observation. 679 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,920 The resources that were put in to trying finding 680 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,360 that included evenings, night times in Twickenham, 681 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,600 in and around Twickenham 682 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,480 and me personally, along with others, 683 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440 stood on a footbridge across the A316 in 684 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,440 the, kind of, Twickenham-Whitton area 685 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,000 looking for incoming vehicles coming backwards and forwards 686 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,760 along the A316, had we seen any, 687 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280 we would have made contact with local officers 688 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,560 and they would have stopped the vehicles there and then. 689 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,800 I'd read a book about 690 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,000 the Yorkshire Ripper, the investigation, 691 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,920 and the investigation there had 50,000 vehicles 692 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,960 tried to eliminate on tyre tracks. 693 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120 And they started it and they had far worse, 694 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,440 kind of, facilities and equipment than we had, 695 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,720 because we had computers and things, 696 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280 they had sheets of paper and people 697 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760 literally ruling cars out on their hands 698 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720 and knees on the floor with magic marker pens. 699 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,240 And they gave up, they found that they couldn't manage it 700 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,960 and they went on to pursue other lines of inquiry 701 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840 about halfway through and if they'd have carried on, 702 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,120 Peter Sutcliffe's Ford Corsair was in that group. 703 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,080 We've got to have learned in the last 25 years that 704 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160 if you embark upon this sort of exercise, 705 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080 then you have to see it through. 706 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,240 I remember at the time thinking, 707 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,760 "This really is a needle in a haystack." 708 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,240 You make your own luck, and Colin once described himself 709 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160 as being either a good detective or a lucky one 710 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,920 and you might argue, you make your own luck. 711 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,160 A number of us, myself included, 712 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,600 was spending a couple of hours 713 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840 after work each day in Twickenham, 714 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:00,880 around Twickenham Green 715 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,640 and just driving around or sitting parked up, 716 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,760 hoping to spot this white van. 717 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800 You know, I just had no illusions that that was going to be 718 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,400 extremely time consuming and I think if it failed, 719 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,360 somebody else would have taken this investigation off of me. 720 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,680 The point was made by Colin 721 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,320 that he would put resources, 722 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400 whatever it took, to find that vehicle. 723 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,240 And as it happened, it was us in the incident room, 724 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760 or me in the incident room that identified the right one. 725 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Because of the nature of Amelie's death, 726 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,840 the fact that such a terrible crime is so rare in that area, 727 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680 we'd had all sorts of help from the local community. 728 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,560 Jo Collins gave some information about 729 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,920 her ex-partner. 730 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,600 And said his name was Levi, she'd come across certain things, 731 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680 blonde women being photographs that were stabbed out. 732 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,040 "He was violent towards me, 733 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,280 "he's a misogamist, 734 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,360 "he hates blonde women particularly..." 735 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120 He also would work doors in nightclubs and things like that. 736 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,880 That made him this supposed character 737 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960 who could endear himself to young girls 738 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,440 because he could encourage young girls to get into night clubs. 739 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,000 So, they would look at him... 740 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680 but most of these girls were vulnerable and very often, 741 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,520 those young girls would soon be abused and damaged by him. 742 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,400 "He currently works as a wheel clamper 743 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,720 "and he uses a white van..." 744 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,560 This is an illegal car clamper who puts signs up after people 745 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,000 have parked and waits for vulnerable women to come back 746 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,360 to their vehicle before confronting them 747 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,040 with torrents of abuse saying how much this person 748 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,880 is gonna have to pay to get the clamp off. 749 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480 And what that did was to trigger somebody else's memory, 750 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200 who said, "Oh, hang on, when we were looking 751 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,640 "at the locally registered couriers, 752 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,680 "a garage said they'd sold one to a wheel clamper." 753 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,360 So, I'm wondering if that could be the same one. 754 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,760 My brother, Dave, had been in the police a little bit longer 755 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,080 than me and he had a number of connections through policing 756 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,640 and personal life in around sort of Kingston, Richmond, Twickenham, 757 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:52,960 where we grew up. 758 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Predominantly, 759 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,240 my first role was in relation 760 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,800 to the tracing of the white van. 761 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,160 It didn't have a registration number, 762 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,400 just had a white van which was quite distinctive, 763 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,160 but not specifically distinctive 764 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,720 because it was quite a blurred image. 765 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,240 So, each officer had actions to go out and trace white vans. 766 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Joanne Collins information came back into the incident room, 767 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,760 I reviewed that, in particular the information about 768 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440 the wheel clamper then made me review this particular docket 769 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,080 about this particular vehicle. 770 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,120 The vehicle was the right type but more importantly, 771 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000 it was sold by a dealer that both my brother, 772 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920 Dave Leach, and I, knew. 773 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Guy called John Wren who worked for Warren Motors. 774 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,000 It was a man that I knew well, I had a relationship with John 775 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,080 from way back. 776 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,240 And this was the relation that's just built on normal policing, 777 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,720 you know, when you drop in for a cup of tea 778 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,960 and you get a bit of knowledge, it was that kind of relationship. 779 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,600 As you can imagine, you're in the van business, 780 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,320 you're dealing with some quite serious characters, 781 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,160 and these particular characters that bought the van, 782 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,280 a guy named Aaron Smith, who was a traveller, 783 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360 bought two vans from John and one of them, 784 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,280 this particular van was being driven by Levi Bellfield. 785 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,880 I knew that there was a car clamping business, 786 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:04,000 and I knew about a white van that had tickets against it, 787 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,160 speeding tickets, parking tickets, 788 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,360 that type of thing that had come in from the DVLC. 789 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,640 I stressed straight away to my brother, "I think we've got... 790 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,640 "we've got this guy called Levi." 791 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,400 The dealer had seen the vehicle recently 792 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,320 and what he had seen is the back of the vehicle 793 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,480 had changed. 794 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,840 He said, "There is something distinctive 795 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,440 "about this white van, Dave." 796 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,760 On the back of the van, low down on both doors 797 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,320 are welded, two metal plates. 798 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,360 Now, my memory of watching the CCTV was that there was something 799 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,040 on the back of the van that stood out, 800 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,240 you couldn't recognise it as metal plates initially, 801 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,760 unless you knew, you wouldn't actually say 802 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,240 it was metal plates. 803 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,280 But there was something distinctive about it that glared at the camera. 804 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,680 Then the other thing he'd noticed, he said, was that the glass panels 805 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600 on the back had been painted white. 806 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,560 This made that vehicle in particular, unique. 807 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,920 And more importantly, it now matched exactly 808 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080 what was on the CCTV. 809 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,520 So, to my mind at that stage then, I knew that we were dealing 810 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,840 with Levi Bellfield. 811 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,200 The van matched the description absolutely bang on. 812 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,920 The research that goes into that vehicle straight away 813 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,720 is enormous, everywhere it's been, 814 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,000 every camera it's done, 815 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,560 speeding offences on the M25, bus lanes in Twickenham. 816 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,360 We do an intelligence check on Levi Belfield then, to see 817 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,640 what was known about him. 818 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:33,200 He had relatively few previous convictions, 819 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,680 but quite a lot of intelligence 820 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,440 because he was always getting into scrapes 821 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,960 and always getting stopped by police and doing things, 822 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,640 one of those scrapes was that in May 2004, 823 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,880 he was arrested for abducting a pub landlord 824 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,280 and no charges reported, 825 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,760 he was never convicted of anything or indeed charged with it. 826 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,800 But the important thing was that it said that he was arrested 827 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,360 for abducting this man in a Toyota Previa. 828 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,280 I gave the registration number that was in this report to Tracy, 829 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,920 one of our researchers and said, 830 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,440 "Can you check on the computer to see what colour this van is?" 831 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,760 Because if it's white, I think it could be 832 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,440 something to do with Kate Sheedy. 833 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,920 And she came back two minutes later and said, "Governor, I think 834 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,160 "we've hit the jackpot." 835 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,360 What we've then got is Levi Bellfield involved 836 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,600 with a white Ford Courier van, of exactly the type 837 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640 that we know was 70 yards away when Amelie Delagrange 838 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:28,920 has been murdered. 839 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,880 And we know that Levi Bellfield had a white Toyota Previa 840 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,480 at exactly the time that such a vehicle 841 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040 run over Kate Sheedy. 842 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600 From that moment onwards, we had our suspect. 843 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,080 (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC) 844 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,200 It's 11 November, 2004. 845 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,960 I'm looking through Levi Bellfield's intelligence print-out 846 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,560 and I see that in March 2002, 847 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,120 he's shown on that as living 848 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,560 at Collingwood Place in Walton on Thames. 849 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,360 But I think if he's got connections in Walton on Thames, 850 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,760 that's probably why he fled there after he murdered Amelie. 851 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Let's have a look at where this place he used to live is. 852 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640 So, I'm expecting this place to be close to the river, 853 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,840 close to where the phone was switched off. 854 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,760 Instead, I find that it's the other side of town, 855 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,520 it's right by the railway station. 856 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,120 Of course, I knew... 857 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:40,120 "Hang on, that's exactly where Milly Dowler was abducted in 2002." 858 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,160 There was a certain amount of interest from both the media, 859 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,240 but also from local people in Walton, 860 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,960 as to whether or not there might be any connection 861 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,600 between what we was doing and Milly Dowler. 862 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,040 We had no reason to think that it was connected, because, you know, 863 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,560 abducting and murdering 864 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,920 a 13-year-old girl is a, kind of, 865 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,600 very different kind of crime to randomly attacking adult women 866 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,160 by hitting them on the back of the head. 867 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,360 Milly was on her way home from school on the train 868 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,200 and instead of getting off at Hersham, 869 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,760 she stayed on one extra stop to go 870 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,280 and get some chips here at Walton on Thames with her friends. 871 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,720 When she had had the chips, 872 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,080 she crossed over and was walking on this pavement. 873 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600 A friend of hers was at the bus stop behind me, 874 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,720 and she saw Milly walk past the bus stop, 875 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,920 but Milly couldn't get on the bus, she didn't have any money, 876 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,960 so she was gonna have to walk home. 877 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,440 At that time there was a building across the road with CCTV cameras 878 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,400 on its corners and they would have captured Milly 879 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,200 if she had walked past the building, however they didn't. 880 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,280 So, what we know is that somewhere between that bus stop 881 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,640 and this spot here, Milly Dowler was abducted. 882 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,600 It wasn't until September 2002 that Millie's body was found 883 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,640 by two people going to pick mushrooms 884 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:03,520 in woods near Yateley, in Hampshire. 885 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,240 Surrey Police had been combing their county for six months almost 886 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000 to the day, and not found Milly Dowler. 887 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,080 It was here in Yateley Heath Woods in Hampshire, some 25 miles from 888 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,880 where she was abducted that she was eventually found. 889 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520 There wasn't much to be told from Milly's body 890 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,320 and the post-mortem examination, 891 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,920 she'd been in the open for six months 892 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600 and there had been certain animal activity. 893 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,560 She was in the undergrowth, she hadn't been buried, 894 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,440 she had just been sort of lightly concealed. 895 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,240 This was an area with which Bellfield was very familiar, 896 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,640 just down the road there's an arena 897 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,040 where he accompanied his former partner, 898 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,880 Joanna Collins on many occasions when she bought her horses here 899 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,320 to show-jump. 900 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,240 We still don't know to this day how she met her death. 901 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,600 The only thing of which the pathologists could be 902 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,480 certain was that she hadn't suffered a severe blow to the head, 903 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,800 in the manner of his other victims. 904 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680 Milly didn't die from being battered with a hammer, 905 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,200 the most likely explanation is, I think, that she was strangled, 906 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,480 but there was a difference between 907 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,400 a girl being murdered in that fashion 908 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,840 and young women who... 909 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,280 early 20s, 910 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,080 Amelie was 22, Marsha was 19. 911 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,880 At that point, really, 912 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,400 the investigation was no closer 913 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,280 to finding out who did it, than they were six months 914 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,080 previously the day after she went missing. 915 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,000 Any murder case, no matter who it is, no matter where, 916 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,280 and what their background, 917 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,920 you will work hard to get to the truth. 918 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,040 We just get on with it, do what we're meant to do 919 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,320 as thoroughly as we can. 920 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,320 And if we do that and we do that right, 921 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,880 99 times out of 100, we will solve it. 922 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,400 I realised that Levi Bellfield was far more complex 923 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,240 a character than just somebody 924 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,040 who hit women on the back of the head. 925 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Bellfield was also a paedophile who sexually assaulted 926 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,720 and abused young girls. 927 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,480 And the more we got to know about Levi Bellfield 928 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,920 the more appalling his lifestyle appeared. 929 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,320 Bellfield had a 16-year-old girlfriend 930 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,760 in addition to his partner, Emma Mills. 931 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,800 He had a flat in Hanworth which was known as the raping room 932 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,600 where he and a group of vile individuals, 933 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,720 some of whom worked with him on his wheel-clamping business 934 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800 would take young girls. 935 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,600 But he was also into supplying drugs and selling drugs, 936 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,520 he beats everybody he's ever lived with, 937 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,680 every relationship he's had. 938 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,160 People who he could easily intimidate, 939 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,160 pay a pittance and exploit. 940 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:47,760 One of these guys, Peter Rodriguez, that worked with him, 941 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,760 Bellfield exploits to such a degree, 942 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,200 he not only stores drugs 943 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,280 at the man's mothers flat while she was in hospital, 944 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,080 but he gets his 16-year-old girlfriend 945 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,360 to groom a 14-year-old, who he then takes to that flat, 946 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,640 gives drugs to her and she's raped by him 947 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:06,760 and his friends. 948 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,080 Rodriguez obviously put up an objection 949 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,440 one day to Bellfield's conduct, 950 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,840 Bellfield didn't like it and as Rodriguez left the flat, 951 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,560 Bellfield carried out a hammer attack. 952 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,640 And Rodriguez, I think died three times on the operating table, 953 00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:27,600 he spent a long time in hospital, 954 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,440 recovering from his injuries. 955 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,680 When he finally came round, Rodriguez said, 956 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,840 "The last thing I remember before the lights went out, 957 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,880 "Levi Bellfield was coming towards me 958 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,360 "with a mallet in his hand." 959 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,960 Bellfield had been arrested for that attack 960 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,520 but bailed because there wasn't sufficient evidence. 961 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,560 This was six weeks 962 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,560 before Amelie died. 963 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,640 I was also mindful 964 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:51,240 that we now knew who he was 965 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,200 and if he murdered somebody else, 966 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680 we needed to be in a position to say 967 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,080 that we've done what we could to keep 968 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440 the public of South West London safe. 969 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,560 I genuinely believed he was such a danger to the public, 970 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,240 that the odds were that he was going to attack again, 971 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,360 and it was gonna be soon. 972 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,200 I really wanted to lock him up the day after we identified him, 973 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,920 I'd have been happy to arrest him then, 974 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,880 I was persuaded otherwise from 975 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,240 some very senior officers in the Met, 976 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,640 who thought that we could put surveillance behind him. 977 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:31,080 After, kind of, myself and my brother Dave joined the dots, 978 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,800 if you like, between vehicle and suspect. 979 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,920 We went into a surveillance stage where we were, you know, 980 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,760 looking for further evidence against him. 981 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,760 From my perspective, I don't think it changed anything, 982 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,560 it didn't lead to any extra evidence. 983 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,000 While we've got Bellfield under surveillance 24/7, 984 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880 team behind him, watching his every move. 985 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,480 It's a Sunday afternoon, he's in Uxbridge, 986 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,200 in West London with a friend. 987 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,880 There were two girls, and they are waiting at a bus stop. 988 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,360 Bellfield drives past, sees them, gets out and engages in conversation 989 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480 with them and the surveillance team were watching this 990 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,360 and they're so close to intervening on this 991 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,800 because they don't like what's happening 992 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,280 with these two young teenage girls. 993 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,760 And then a bus comes. 994 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,200 When the bus comes along, the girls get on it 995 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,480 and Bellfield waves them off with a cheery, 996 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,480 sort of abusive... calls them something. 997 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080 And they go away on the bus and he drives off. 998 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,760 So, the surveillance team do absolutely the right thing, 999 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,040 they peel off one car, that follows the bus, 1000 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,040 the rest of them stay with Bellfield. 1001 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,200 And when these two girls got off the bus, 1002 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,920 the police officers introduced themselves 1003 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,800 and they said that he got out and asked them how old they were, 1004 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,800 they told him they were 14. 1005 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,240 And he said, "Oh, you're nice and young then, I like them young" 1006 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,600 and that made suggestions to them of that nature. 1007 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,560 So, we've got here a man who preys on women 1008 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,400 who have just been on buses or at bus stops. 1009 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,160 Amelie Delagrange, Kate Sheedy, Marsha McDonnell, 1010 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,000 all just got off a bus and here he is, at a bus stop, 1011 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,920 chatting up two 14-year-old girls 1012 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,280 and not chatting them up nicely, but, you know, 1013 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,640 they are 14-year-old-girls 1014 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,680 and he is making suggestive sexual comments to them. 1015 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,560 Apart from the bus stop incident with the girls, 1016 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,080 was that somebody else came forward to us and said, 1017 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,400 "My nanny was attacked near Twickenham Green a few years ago." 1018 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,920 We were able to trace that incident 1019 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,680 and verify it from the triage records 1020 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,840 at the local hospital, which said, 1021 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,240 "The woman called Sonia Salvatierra who was a Peruvian national 1022 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,160 "had gone in there reporting discomfort 1023 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:49,080 "and a bit of a sore head from being knocked over 1024 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,400 "and having her phone stolen." 1025 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,840 And we made contact in Peru with Sonia and she said, 1026 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,640 "Yeah, I remember the man," she described this man 1027 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,120 with a round face and fat man 1028 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,320 and no neck and all the things 1029 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,360 that sounded 1030 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,160 very much like Bellfield. 1031 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,960 So, to me, this was going to be our kind of holding charge, 1032 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,600 I thought that would work, if we got... 1033 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,840 we could get Sonia back over here from Peru, 1034 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,560 put Bellfield on an ID parade, 1035 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,480 she picks him out, we charge him with that serious assault, 1036 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,800 he's remanded in custody and that takes the pressure off. 1037 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,320 So, that was the plan we were going to arrest him, 1038 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,400 we were gonna arrest him for Amelie's murder, 1039 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,840 attempting to murder Kate 1040 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,480 and for an assault 1041 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,240 and robbery on Sonia Salvatierra. 1042 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,280 That was when we had the bombshell 1043 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,320 that the News of the World 1044 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520 had found out that we had a man on surveillance 1045 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,280 and they were going to run with the story, 1046 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,360 two days before we had this huge plan in place to arrest him. 1047 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,840 And Bellfield would have wind of us. 1048 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,440 The best we could do was to try to negotiate 1049 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,880 with the News of the World and we negotiated 1050 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,520 that they would be able to send a reporter 1051 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,680 and a photographer along on the day of the arrest 1052 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,240 with the proviso they never printed it 1053 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,520 and never published the story until after the trial. 1054 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,960 I've never actually found out who leaked the story 1055 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,880 of the surveillance to them. 1056 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,760 But the two things I've been assured of is one that it wasn't anybody 1057 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,280 from my team and two, there was nothing to do 1058 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,480 with any phone hacking. 1059 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400 And the steer that I've had is that I should be looking 1060 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,720 at the higher floors at Scotland Yard. 1061 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,320 Once the decision is made to arrest, 1062 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,760 we would divide into two teams. 1063 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,680 The arrest team that went to Bellfield's address 1064 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,120 in West Drayton would have entered the house quickly 1065 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,760 and effected a search of the property 1066 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,760 and the surrounding sort of gardens etcetera. 1067 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,480 Initially they couldn't find him, he was nowhere to be seen. 1068 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,320 And then there was an identification via his partner Emma, 1069 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,600 that he was in the loft. 1070 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680 It took them quite some time 1071 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,480 to find him hiding in his loft, 1072 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,320 as he was, stark naked and eventually brought him out. 1073 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,400 Colin then rang me at home, I remember the phone call, he said, 1074 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,800 "I want you to do the following 1075 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,840 "interviews with him, 1076 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,760 "over the next few days." 1077 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,520 So, my reply to him was, "Boss, 1078 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,720 "I'm not sure that's a great idea, 1079 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,920 "with the greatest respect, I'm sure someone else could do it." 1080 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,040 But he was quite adamant, as much as he was a nice guy 1081 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,920 and very laid back, when he made a decision, 1082 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,120 he meant it. 1083 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,600 He was very firm about it and said, "No, I want you to do it, 1084 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,840 "I want you to do the interview and don't worry about it." 1085 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,920 At first he was talking to us and making denials, 1086 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,280 but he was represented by a solicitor that he knew, 1087 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,800 that he had asked for. 1088 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,960 And the difficulty came that when we started investigating him 1089 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,680 also for rape and abuse of his former partners, 1090 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,360 this solicitor had represented 1091 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,400 one of the partners 1092 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,400 in domestic violence proceedings. 1093 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,920 So, had a conflict of interest 1094 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,640 and had to withdraw, 1095 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,080 and the duty solicitor then took over 1096 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,040 and the duty solicitor advised him to make no comment. 1097 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,440 And so for most of the hours of interviews we did 1098 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,320 with Levi Bellfield thereafter, he would say, "No comment." 1099 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,040 To be honest, I'd seen that type of interview many, many times, 1100 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,680 and in those days, we got a lot of "No comment" interviews. 1101 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,840 We still have to cover a lot of questions. 1102 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,640 If they don't say something during the interview 1103 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,000 that they later rely on in court, then it becomes relevant, 1104 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,520 or could become relevant for the jury. 1105 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,000 If you've hit something he was really uncomfortable with 1106 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,720 and he knew he was, then he couldn't face it, 1107 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,360 he couldn't face you and he couldn't face 1108 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,080 what was coming at him. 1109 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,120 The only time where he would really engage with us, we noticed, 1110 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:16,000 was if we showed him photographs or maps or some sort of document, 1111 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,920 then we could kind of elicit a response from him. 1112 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,520 I remember images being put in front of him in one session 1113 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,440 and him looking away and turning around, 1114 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,280 looking away from the interviewing team, 1115 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,840 he turned the photographs over, but when, you know, 1116 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,800 the second and third interviews were put in 1117 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,840 and the images were put there again 1118 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,640 and he tried the same tact, the interviewing officer 1119 00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:40,480 had put them on the back, so as he turns the image over, 1120 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,840 the image is still there. 1121 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,320 It's not about playing tricks, it's about 1122 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,080 "Face up to what you've done, 1123 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,520 "this is what you've done." 1124 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,120 And he obviously... 1125 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,040 he's not somebody who could do that. 1126 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,240 But he had this rather curious way of doing it, 1127 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,520 where he would talk to us just every now and then 1128 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,920 and then realise he was meant to not be saying anything and say... 1129 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,680 Sonia Salvatierra, the Peruvian nanny was flown over 1130 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,680 from Lima and she was taken to do an ID procedure 1131 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,160 and despite her confidently saying, 1132 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:19,840 "Yes, I could recognise him again," she didn't pick him out. 1133 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,960 And that was a major blow to me at the time, 1134 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080 because my confidence was high that she would pick him out 1135 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,400 in the ID parade, we could charge him 1136 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,520 with that assault, and that would, like, 1137 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,200 be our holding charge to make sure he was in custody. 1138 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,440 We had the very real prospect of having to release him on bail. 1139 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,680 And such was the fear of him within the Metropolitan Police, 1140 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280 that there were arrangements in place, if he had been bailed, 1141 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,920 he would have been followed by 24/7 surveillance... 1142 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,040 Until there was some reason to take him back into custody again. 1143 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,920 While Bellfield was at Heathrow police station, 1144 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,080 I had two of my officers 1145 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,000 who were trained family liaison officers 1146 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,720 talking to his partner, Emma. 1147 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520 It was clear that she had endured 1148 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,040 ten years of a desperately oppressive, 1149 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,080 coercive and violent relationship with this man, 1150 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,160 but she was so frightened of him 1151 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,520 that she wouldn't do anything about it. 1152 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,960 "He locks me in the house, he won't let me go out, 1153 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,960 "so I can't have my own money, I can't have my own phone, 1154 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,680 "other than with his number in it." 1155 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,760 And then she talks about how often she had been assaulted 1156 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,040 and sexually assaulted by him, and then told us, 1157 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,240 "And I'm not the only one, because there were two other women 1158 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,560 "who he's lived with in the past, and they will tell you 1159 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,880 "that he did the same to them." 1160 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,720 And if he was going to go to prison for a long time or forever, 1161 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,880 then this was her chance to escape. 1162 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,440 We had an awful lot of support 1163 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,040 from his ex-partners, 1164 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,240 in particular, Emma and Jo. 1165 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,840 Jo gave us a really, really strong statement 1166 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,320 about some of the abuse she'd suffered at his hands 1167 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,640 and that gave us a real strength of evidence 1168 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:56,280 to charge Bellfield with a variety of offences, but in particular, 1169 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,640 serious offences that would keep him in custody. 1170 00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:03,440 And that provided us with nine charges, serious charges, 1171 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,640 that eventually were the kind of holding charges 1172 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:07,160 against Levi Bellfield. 1173 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:09,160 Those nine offences on that indictment 1174 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,480 have never been tried before a court, never will be now. 1175 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:18,000 And it's the mark of the man and his kind of level of offending, 1176 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,560 that something... an indictment that would be very serious 1177 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,960 in any other circumstances has just been left on file, 1178 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,960 because in the context of what else he's done, 1179 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,800 it is kind of not as important. 1180 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,040 There is no doubt that Levi Bellfield 1181 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,920 was an intelligent man, not an educated man, 1182 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,040 but he was street smart. 1183 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,960 Where he made a mistake in the Amelie Delagrange case 1184 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,920 was at Twickenham Green. 1185 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,280 He didn't know that just weeks before he had attacked Amelie, 1186 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,320 the bus garage at Fullwell had just fitted CCTV 1187 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,600 to all of its buses, which recorded onto hard drives 1188 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,400 rather than tape, the time stamp on the footage 1189 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,720 was from the atomic clock, each bus had 1190 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,560 either six or eight cameras facing inside and outside. 1191 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,080 Both of the roads, either side of Twickenham Green 1192 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,520 had bus routes on them. 1193 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,320 And so, in plotting what he was doing, 1194 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,760 cruising around hunting in his van and plotting how Amelie 1195 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,080 had walked back up from the bus garage 1196 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,520 towards Twickenham Green and putting the two together 1197 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,720 and working out for certain that Bellfield had passed her 1198 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,960 and probably stopped to speak to her, 1199 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,440 all this CCTV was invaluable. 1200 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,880 We were then able to spend real time and real resources 1201 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,040 bringing together the other offences that we think he is involved in. 1202 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,400 The first one was Kate Sheedy. 1203 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,640 It doesn't look quite right, 1204 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,320 because it's slightly out of the area 1205 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,400 and the weapon is a car. 1206 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,920 So, initially we were working out, 1207 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400 "Well, is it or isn't it potentially one of ours?" 1208 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,880 I mean, Kate was able to explain that the vehicle 1209 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,640 that had hit her was some kind of people carrier 1210 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,840 and that it was white. 1211 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,880 Levi Bellfield, who at the time, provably was driving 1212 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,160 a white Toyota Previa people carrier with blacked out windows. 1213 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,800 So, the vehicle that fitted exactly the description that Kate Sheedy 1214 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,240 had given of the vehicle that ran her over. 1215 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520 We went and retrieved that so we could examine it forensically, 1216 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,320 it had been professionally steam cleaned, valeted, top and bottom, 1217 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,640 inside and out. 1218 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,040 So, there was no forensic material on there at all 1219 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,960 to associate it with Kate Sheedy. 1220 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,280 However, what it did have was a defective drivers mirror 1221 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,440 and that was something that she had noted 1222 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,400 on the vehicle that ran her over. 1223 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,440 So, it was, you know, pretty likely, we thought, 1224 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,920 this was Bellfield's vehicle, 1225 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,280 it fitted everything with Kate Sheedy. 1226 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,520 So, I said, "Yes, OK, let's... 1227 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,360 "we should take that on." 1228 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,440 And that was when we realised that there was a bag of CCTV tape 1229 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,280 from a nearby pub that had never been looked at. 1230 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,400 And it was a simple error, human error made 1231 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,640 by the original investigating team at Hounslow borough. 1232 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,200 Although CCTV had been recovered by local police, 1233 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,240 they hadn't got the resources to view it in as much detail as us. 1234 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,680 Two lots of tapes had been seized, because the offence 1235 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,560 was just near midnight and it was a bit confusing 1236 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,880 what days' tapes they needed, and somebody had viewed one 1237 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,200 but not realised there was a second bag. 1238 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,800 And when we opened that bag and put it in the machine, 1239 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,640 we could see the Toyota Previa, driving, stalking the bus on 1240 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,840 which Kate Sheedy was riding. 1241 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,600 As the bus pulled in to let her off, 1242 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,960 the Previa overtakes it and parks in front of it. 1243 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,920 What the CCTV does is tell him exactly what it is, 1244 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,800 and it was a Toyota Previa. 1245 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,360 A Toyota Previa that was white, had unique features about it. 1246 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,680 We see the Previa going in the other direction, 1247 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,760 back past the pub on the CCTV. 1248 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,320 And we can't get a number plate, it's dark 1249 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,240 and it's not particularly good quality footage, 1250 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,560 but what we can see is that there is a mark, 1251 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,040 an irregular shaped, sort of, stain by the petrol filler 1252 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,000 as the Previa drives away after the attack. 1253 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,600 And then I look at the photographs, the good quality photographs 1254 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,840 we've taken of the Previa we've seized 1255 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,640 and there's that stain visible. 1256 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760 And it kind of corresponded so much that we could 1257 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,800 get expert video analysis done to say, 1258 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,320 "Yes, that's the same vehicle." 1259 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,280 I realised immediately that had that CCTV been viewed immediately 1260 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,200 after Kate's assault, Levi Bellfield's name 1261 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,240 would have come out of the initial inquiries. 1262 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,160 Just a few days before Kate was run over, he was arrested 1263 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,040 for a... what he described as a prank where he'd kidnapped 1264 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,920 a pub landlord, it never went anywhere, 1265 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,920 but the intelligence report was there. 1266 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,440 So, as soon as somebody saw that CCTV, 1267 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,880 somebody would've identified it as the previa, 1268 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,280 very distinctive vehicle, 1269 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,000 they'd go to the intelligence computer 1270 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,160 and Levi Bellfield's name 1271 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,200 would've popped out. 1272 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,760 One of the lines of enquiry that we went down 1273 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,720 involved a mobile phone that was in the possession 1274 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,440 of Bellfield's 16-year-old girlfriend. 1275 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,920 She and her 14-year-old sister were in the flat that Bellfield 1276 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,920 had sort of illegally sub-rented from somebody else, 1277 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400 and they were taking lots and lots of clips of themselves 1278 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,880 doing things while they were getting drunk, 1279 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,680 dancing and this sort of thing. 1280 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,080 About 1:00 in the morning, Bellfield comes into the flat 1281 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,760 and the girls take video of him. 1282 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,200 He's wearing an outdoor coat/jacket and what he does is he comes in 1283 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,560 and he finds a torch and he picks it up 1284 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,920 and switches it on and you see his face illuminate, 1285 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,360 he's kind of checking to see if it works, 1286 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,280 switches it off again and goes out. 1287 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,120 But the significance of this is that just 40 minutes before, 1288 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,360 Kate Sheedy had been run over by a Previa. 1289 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,400 And what this looked very much like was somebody coming in, 1290 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,120 getting a torch because they wanted to go back out 1291 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,440 and check their vehicle over, to see if there was any damage. 1292 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,360 It certainly showed that Bellfield couldn't claim he was in the flat 1293 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,520 at the time it happened. 1294 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,280 The problem we've got is we know that the time stamp on the video 1295 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,240 is questionable, it depends on how the phone was set up 1296 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,240 and there was some sound in the back ground 1297 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,920 and it sounded like... it was music, 1298 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,400 and somebody on the team said, "That's not a pop song, 1299 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,960 "that's a theme song, it's 'Wheel of Fortune'." 1300 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,520 And so, what we were then able to do was go back 1301 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,160 to that broadcaster and say, "Can you help us at all?" 1302 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,880 And they were able to look at their records 1303 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,200 and give us a really accurate, you know, to the second time 1304 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,480 when they thought that clip had been recorded. 1305 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,840 Now, we can't say for certain that he would have been charged 1306 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,960 with trying to murder Kate, 1307 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,000 but obviously there is 1308 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,040 a strong possibility 1309 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,480 he wouldn't have been free to murder Amelie Delagrange. 1310 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,240 I know that Colin became quite close 1311 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,360 with Amelie Delagrange's parents. 1312 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,400 He described them as being very humble 1313 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,720 and they were very respectful of the police 1314 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,080 and the investigation 1315 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,720 and understood that everyone 1316 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,560 was doing their best 1317 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,040 in awful circumstances for them. 1318 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,320 The only thing I thought I could do was to go and see 1319 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:23,240 Amelie's parents, and apologise on behalf of my organisation, you know, 1320 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,680 my colleagues that had let them down. 1321 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,880 And it was obviously going to be a very personal and, kind of, 1322 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,000 emotional conversation, but nevertheless, 1323 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,640 one that I knew had to be done. 1324 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:41,600 I explained all the situation about Kate, the situation with the CCTV. 1325 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,240 I said, "Look, you do understand what this means? 1326 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:49,160 "We should have had him in custody at some time 1327 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,840 "before Amelie was murdered." 1328 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,920 And they said, "Yes, of course, we understand, we know that, 1329 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,800 "thank you for telling us, we thought that you had been honest 1330 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,800 "with us all the way through this and this proves to us that you are, 1331 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,480 "what has happened has happened, we cannot change the past. 1332 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,400 "It's sad, we'd like to change it, but we know we can't, 1333 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,840 "now will you three come back to dinner with us tonight here?" 1334 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,600 And that was it, you know, 1335 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:22,240 it was just the most unexpectedly generous 1336 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,640 but dignified and honourable, 1337 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,000 mature approach to what had happened. 1338 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,080 The next case to look at really was that of Marsha McDonnell. 1339 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,320 There was one line of inquiry which wasn't resolved 1340 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,560 and, yes, again, it was CCTV 1341 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,680 and the bus on which Marsha had gone home 1342 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,080 and place she had got off of just a couple of minutes 1343 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,480 before she was attacked. 1344 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,640 We looked at that and from the outside camera 1345 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,680 we could see that coming towards her was a car, 1346 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,440 two seconds after Marsha had gone 1347 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,920 through the doors to get off the bus. 1348 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,240 And then by using the inside cameras 1349 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,000 on the top deck but looking out 1350 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,400 through the windows, we could see what that car did. 1351 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,480 And what it did was it stopped, slowed down and then stopped 1352 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,880 in the crossroads behind the bus. 1353 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,280 And Marsha is walking in that direction too, 1354 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,960 but the important thing about it was, was that from the front view 1355 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,880 we could almost see a number plate, 1356 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,360 it was tantalising, we could almost see a few characters 1357 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,360 popping out a bit, but there was no doubt 1358 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,240 that the car was a Vauxhall Corsa. 1359 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,400 And one of his vehicles, one he actually bought 1360 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,880 on finance, was a silver Vauxhall Corsa. 1361 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,560 Trying to prove that that particular Corsa 1362 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,880 was his Vauxhall Corsa was very, very difficult. 1363 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,560 The combinations of numbers and letters on the number plate 1364 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,080 of this vehicle that could be seen 1365 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,440 and what the experts told us they might be, 1366 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,680 initially gave us over 600,000 possible combinations, 1367 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,160 a lot of those possible registrations 1368 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,160 weren't on Corsa's, 1369 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,640 they were on completely different vehicles, 1370 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,160 so you could write all them off. 1371 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,320 I said as soon as we get it down to 200 or lower, 1372 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,120 then we can go through them and start eliminating. 1373 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,160 And that's what we did, and it took us a little bit of time 1374 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,720 but eventually, we got those all eliminated. 1375 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,200 Look at the index of that silver Vauxhall Corsa, 1376 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,920 apply that to the Marsha McDonnell case 1377 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,400 and there he is. 1378 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,920 So, you've now got three separate murderous attacks 1379 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,400 on young women, three vehicles involved 1380 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,520 and each of those vehicles at the time 1381 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,200 is identical to one owned by Levi Bellfield. 1382 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,680 There is an old, much used phrase, 1383 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,880 that 'Detectives don't like coincidences', 1384 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,160 and this certainly wasn't looking like coincidence. 1385 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,560 I was in a position where I thought 1386 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,440 we had a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to Levi Bellfield, 1387 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,000 but that we could get more 1388 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600 from his friends and acquaintances. 1389 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,920 If first they thought he wasn't going to come and beat them up, 1390 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,840 in other words, if he was gonna go to prison and not be able to, 1391 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,480 and secondly, if they understood 1392 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,120 just how much evidence we really had. 1393 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,160 And I came up with the idea of using the vehicle of BBC Crimewatch. 1394 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,000 And I'd been on there with other cases a few times 1395 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,400 and I knew the guy that was the editor, 1396 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,600 and I was just honest with him. 1397 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,440 I phoned him up and said, "Look, I want to come on 1398 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,480 "for an appeal about the murders in South West London, 1399 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,840 "asking for information about the two or three vehicles. 1400 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,720 "What I need is the public to understand that we know 1401 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,000 "who was driving it, you know, we've got these vehicles 1402 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,640 "and we know these vehicles were involved, 1403 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,360 "because that will make them realise that it's our man 1404 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,480 "and come forward and give evidence. 1405 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,680 "And so, we went on to Crimewatch and we showed these pictures 1406 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,800 "of the Previa and the Corsa and the white Courier van 1407 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,680 "and suddenly witnesses started coming forward as a result of that. 1408 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,280 "There's a man called Richard Hughes, 1409 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,160 "he was more a friend of Levi's partner than Levi himself. 1410 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,560 "He told us about him modifying the white van, 1411 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,880 "so that they couldn't be seen through 1412 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,360 "and then cutting a little spy hole, 1413 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,960 "and he could sit in the back and spy out. 1414 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,360 "He talks about a blood-stained shirt 1415 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,920 "that Bellfield had soon 1416 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,440 "after the disappearance of Milly Dowler." 1417 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,720 Bellfield said things shortly after Marsha's murder, for example, 1418 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,720 "You don't know what I've done," and things like this. 1419 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,280 So, he was kind of a really important witness 1420 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,440 who had been close to Bellfield and was able to give us 1421 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,440 lots of little bits of information. 1422 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,880 There was Joe Ryan, who was another acquaintance of Bellfield's, 1423 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,680 he'd helped him out with wheel clamping. 1424 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,920 He told us about Bellfield hitting a kerb 1425 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,840 with the front nearside wheel, 1426 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,240 and because the van at that time 1427 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,280 had alloy wheels on it, 1428 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,120 it damaged it so much that 1429 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,560 he had to put a steel black wheel on 1430 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,280 and that was very visible in the CCTV. 1431 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:46,280 He also told us about the headlights and how the headlight bulb had gone 1432 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,320 out on the near side and that Bellfield had got 1433 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,880 some old headlights from a Ford Escort 1434 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,600 in his garden at the house. 1435 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,920 When we searched Bellfield's house we found this Ford Escort headlight 1436 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,760 with the bulb missing in the garden, so it, kind of, 1437 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,520 corroborated Joe Ryan's story. 1438 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,960 The other man that came forward that was really, really important 1439 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,920 as a result of this, was a guy called Simon Redstone. 1440 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,760 He remembers cycling home at about 10:00, 10:15, 1441 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,280 the night Amelie was murdered, and his statement said, 1442 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,320 "He was overtaken by a little white van 1443 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,200 "being driven at crazy speed." 1444 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,680 And he kind of tried to memorise the number, 1445 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,280 although he hadn't got it completely correct, 1446 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,800 he'd got enough digits accurately to show 1447 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,800 that it must have been Bellfield's van 1448 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,960 that he was talking about. 1449 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,520 And, indeed, when we then went back to static CCTV 1450 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,600 from the Loch Fyne restaurant in Hampton Road, 1451 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,720 we saw Bellfield's van go past and then sort of two frames later, 1452 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,400 there is Simon Redstone on his bike, so that corroborated that as well. 1453 01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:51,400 We were now able to overlay the path that we knew Amelie had taken back 1454 01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:53,720 from the bus garage back to Twickenham Green, 1455 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,760 with the movements of Bellfield's white van. 1456 01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,840 And what that showed was that as Amelie was walking back up 1457 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,640 Hampton Road towards Twickenham Green, 1458 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,720 Bellfield at first was behind her. 1459 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,200 He came out of this side road, I think it was Fourth Cross Road 1460 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,520 and turned left into Hampton Road 1461 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,880 and the footage from cameras on buses 1462 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:19,560 show Amelie walking along, and then the van being behind her. 1463 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,680 And then right up near the green, 1464 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:26,720 the, sort of, virtually the last footage we get, 1465 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,880 there is a change and the van is 62 seconds ahead of Amelie. 1466 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,480 Amelie is on the pavement and the van has gone past, 1467 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,080 62 seconds or a minute in front of her. 1468 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,880 But then when we look at Amelie's pace, 1469 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,840 she seems to have slowed down at that point 1470 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,280 and that is exactly the time 1471 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,440 when the van would have overtaken her. 1472 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,880 So, what we deduced from that is that she didn't actually slow down 1473 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,880 her walking, she was stationary for some while. 1474 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,000 And she was stationary because Levi Bellfield was also stationary 1475 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,800 at that point, propositioning her from the window of his van. 1476 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,640 And that fits in what we think we know about why he committed 1477 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:10,080 these blitz attacks, that he would proposition a woman, 1478 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,680 she would decline, and he would then be triggered by that 1479 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,400 and get out and assault them. 1480 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:18,120 So, what we have not got is reliable evidence 1481 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,800 that Bellfield had this white van, what we need then to do 1482 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,400 is to be able to prove that it was him driving it 1483 01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:27,440 on the night Amelie was murdered. 1484 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,720 One of the difficulties was that the scene itself 1485 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,040 on Twickenham Green, we had not been managed 1486 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,960 to get any forensic evidence, no weapons been found, 1487 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,640 the vehicle hadn't been recovered. 1488 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,080 Not for the only time in this investigation, 1489 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,520 Bellfield's partner, Emma, came up trumps for us. 1490 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,640 Emma Mills remembered the night that Amelie Delagrange 1491 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,520 was murdered quite vividly. 1492 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,720 The plan was that he was to pick her up 1493 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,720 so she could go shopping in Tesco's, 1494 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,800 but he was late, and he didn't turn up at home, 1495 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,520 so she phoned for a minicab and came here in that. 1496 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,960 When Bellfield got home and found that she wasn't there, 1497 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,200 he phoned her and asked her where she was, 1498 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,120 she explained, he said, "I'll come up and meet you." 1499 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,520 An important thing is that he came up to meet her 1500 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,600 in the white Ford Courier van. 1501 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,400 He drives to Hayes, goes and meets her in Tesco, 1502 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:18,560 he takes the two older children across the road to Toys 'R' Us. 1503 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,640 And there is a few phone calls between Bellfield 1504 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,880 and Emma at the time. 1505 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,120 That's important because it gives us a time stamp and it gives us 1506 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,160 the fact that we know the number, which of his mobile phones Bellfield 1507 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,800 was using on that night. 1508 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,280 Emma then told us they left here in the white Ford Courier van 1509 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,720 and went home to Little Benty arriving there just after 9:00. 1510 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,400 She said Bellfield had reversed on the drive, hadn't even gotten out 1511 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:44,120 of the van, he left her to unload 1512 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,920 all the shopping and the three children. 1513 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,600 As soon as the shopping is out of the van, Bellfield drives off, 1514 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,160 Emma tells us that it's about 9:10 now. 1515 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,240 A short time after he had driven off, 1516 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,600 she realised that she had forgotten some milk 1517 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,400 and wanted to call him to see if he could bring some in. 1518 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:01,400 Looking at Bellfield's mobile phone usage, 1519 01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,400 when he knows he is going to commit a crime, 1520 01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:04,440 he switches his phone off. 1521 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,360 He made a mistake on this occasion, because that call from Emma to him 1522 01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:11,440 about the milk hit his phone. 1523 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,080 And it only rang once and it went to voicemail. 1524 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,240 But that one ring meant that the call had hit the mast 1525 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,880 where his phone was, and that mast was the one 1526 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,400 that served Twickenham Green. 1527 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:26,760 So, that story from Emma gave us Bellfield in the white Courier van, 1528 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,560 with his own mobile phone in his hand 1529 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,360 and in the area of Twickenham Green, 1530 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,720 it was to be a crucial piece of evidence. 1531 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,800 And I can just imagine, he's sitting in a van, 1532 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,240 he hears the phone ringing, and he thinks, 1533 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,560 "I didn't turn it off," and grabs it and pulls 1534 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,120 the battery or switches it off. 1535 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,240 But that one ring was enough to leave a trace on the local mast, 1536 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,080 we're kind of proving that he is the one 1537 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,280 who's driving the white van. 1538 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,840 The CPS asked us to just try and firm Emma's evidence up, 1539 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,000 she'd paid cash for her shopping 1540 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,800 but what my officers did, 1541 01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,800 and it was a fantastic and spontaneous 1542 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,000 piece of investigative work by them, 1543 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,360 they asked Emma to list what she bought. 1544 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,560 And they came here to Tesco's, they asked the manager 1545 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,160 if they had the copy till rolls, they found her receipt and, 1546 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,360 of course, it had a date and time stamp on it 1547 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:15,480 and it proved her story was correct. 1548 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,320 So, that was a really crucial part of the evidence, in fact, 1549 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,560 it was the clinching part of the evidence 1550 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,960 as far as the crown prosecution service was concerned 1551 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,280 and when we managed to prove 1552 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,480 all that to their satisfaction, 1553 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,960 that they authorised 1554 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,000 the murder charge 1555 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,920 in respect of Amelie. 1556 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:37,240 It was back in November 2004 that... 1557 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,840 when I first identified Levi Bellfield really, 1558 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:45,200 that I saw how close he lived to where Milly Dowler was last seen 1559 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,280 before she was abducted. 1560 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,400 In my phone I still had the mobile number 1561 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:49,720 for Brian Marjoram, 1562 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,680 and he was the senior investigating officer 1563 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,280 for the Milly Dowler investigation in Surrey. 1564 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,240 I told him all that we knew about Levi Bellfield 1565 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,680 and where he was living at the time. 1566 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,920 And I'll never forget his reply, it was, "The hairs on my neck 1567 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,200 "are standing up, Colin." 1568 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,120 What I found surprising was that kind of... 1569 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,120 there was a degree of inertia 1570 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,480 within Surrey police in taking up 1571 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,280 Levi Bellfield as their suspect, 1572 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,480 they didn't feel 1573 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,600 that they were in a position to drop everything they were doing 1574 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,360 and look at this man instead. 1575 01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:20,000 And what they sort of said was, "We'll put him on the backburner 1576 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,440 "and we'll carry on with what we're doing 1577 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,000 "and if that comes nothing, we'll have a look at Bellfield." 1578 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,320 Eventually what happened was that a new senior investigating officer 1579 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:29,680 took over in Surrey. 1580 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,440 I went down there with Jo Brunt. 1581 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,280 We had a meeting at Surrey headquarters and we... 1582 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,440 well, Colin put to them that we think Levi Bellfield 1583 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,640 was a very good suspect in the case of Milly Dowler. 1584 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,040 We'd already muted it and been 1585 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,760 stone walled about it, basically. 1586 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,440 They showed me a still from the CCTV, it's of a red car 1587 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,120 that they thought was a Mark 2 Vauxhall Astra, 1588 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,480 it was actually a Daewoo, 1589 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,360 turning left out of the road that led to 1590 01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:00,240 where Bellfield's and Emma's flat was. 1591 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,000 I kind of said, "Yeah, that's Emma's car, 1592 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,520 "that's the car he was driving that day, it was a Daewoo, 1593 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,640 "and it's the only... 1594 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,520 "it's the only red one registered in the whole of Surrey. 1595 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,120 "Not a very common car at all." 1596 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,000 They just wouldn't want to listen, 1597 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,280 they just didn't want to listen and eventually Colin said, 1598 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,840 "Can I just ask, why don't you want to solve the case of Milly Dowler?" 1599 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,960 At which point they erupted, Colin walked out of the room. 1600 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,440 With hindsight, it was obviously gonna be 1601 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,400 a red rag to a bull to any investigator. 1602 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:29,880 I said, "Well, what I don't understand, 1603 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,680 "is why you don't want to solve this?" 1604 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,480 And the reaction I got was the reaction that comment deserved, 1605 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,000 which was indignation. 1606 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,120 And it was quite forceful indignation 1607 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,600 by the superintendent. 1608 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,720 We established that in March 2002, Emma Mills, Levi Bellfield's 1609 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,120 long-term partner, was living in this ground floor flat here. 1610 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,680 She'd moved here because of domestic violence at home, 1611 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,560 she'd split up with him, but he'd persuaded her 1612 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,160 to take him back. 1613 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,120 She wasn't at the time staying at the flat, 1614 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,840 she was house sitting for a friend 1615 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,720 in West Drayton, but when Bellfield came 1616 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,800 to that house on the evening that Milly was abducted, 1617 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,920 Emma knew that he'd been to the flat in Walton, 1618 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,160 because he was wearing clothes, he'd changed his clothes 1619 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,480 and she knew the clothes he was wearing 1620 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,840 were from the wardrobe of the Walton flat. 1621 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,080 He also had the keys to this flat 1622 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,080 because he was driving Emma's red Daewoo car 1623 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,520 and the keys to the flat were on the same key ring. 1624 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,080 When Bellfield drove that car from here, 1625 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,560 drove away, was Milly inside it? 1626 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,720 We don't know, we can't tell. 1627 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,960 20 minutes after Milly Dowler was last seen, to when her remains 1628 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,920 were found six months later, we have no idea of the timeline, 1629 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,240 we don't know what happened and in what order. 1630 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,440 All we can say is that Levi Bellfield 1631 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:57,360 was exactly here on this spot at the time that she was abducted. 1632 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,320 We don't know whether he abducted her 1633 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,800 by force or whether he used his charm 1634 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,320 or persuasion to get her to come with him. 1635 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,040 What we do know is that while Emma was away, 1636 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,680 house sitting for a friend, Bellfield was using her flat 1637 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,360 as a base for his depraved activities. 1638 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,320 It was quite sad that there is this friction between 1639 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,960 police services, police forces, the Met versus... 1640 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,240 I mean, we should all be in it together 1641 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,120 and we should all be working for the same cause 1642 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,560 and that sometimes I didn't find it was like 1643 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,920 that with other forces that we dealt with. 1644 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,240 It was tragic obviously 1645 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,160 that they didn't find that clip 1646 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,800 with the red Daewoo and it took them quite a while 1647 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,880 to even acknowledge that. 1648 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:53,080 I think the real mistake was made where they visited Emma Mills' flat 1649 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,000 during that week when Milly went missing 1650 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,840 and there was no response from the flat, 1651 01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,000 but it was a loose end that wasn't sewn up. 1652 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,040 They were sending officers 1653 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,160 to reported sightings all over the country 1654 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,800 and yet didn't get the house to house inquiries completed nearby. 1655 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,840 The results and the consequences of that were tragic 1656 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:17,280 because from 2002, March 2002, the following year, 1657 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,080 Bellfield killed Marsha. 1658 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:24,960 He left Kate Sheedy within an inch of her death 1659 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,800 and then finally murdered Amelie Delagrange. 1660 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,040 Later that evening I'm at home and my wife then worked 1661 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,640 for Surrey Police, she said, "Oh, the superintendent 1662 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,080 "has asked for your phone number," 1663 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,600 my mobile ringed and he says, "Do you know, I've had a think 1664 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,480 "about what you've said today and I think you're right, 1665 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,640 "we are on board with it. 1666 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,800 "He's our number one now." 1667 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,360 18 months after Amelie Delagrange was murdered, 1668 01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:57,040 in March 2006 we were finally able to charge 1669 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,160 Levi Bellfield with her murder. 1670 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,560 I read the charges out to him, he was charged that he had murdered 1671 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:08,320 Amelie Delagrange, that he had attempted to murder Kate Sheedy, 1672 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,760 that he had abducted Anna-Maria Rennie 1673 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,320 and that he had attempted 1674 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,280 to murder Irma Dragoshi. 1675 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,440 In May 2006, he was charged 1676 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,040 with murdering Marsha McDonnell. 1677 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,880 I was looking directly into his eyes, 1678 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,160 they were just cold black, he had no emotion, 1679 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,280 but I could tell he hated me at that moment 1680 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,440 and I quite enjoyed being hated. 1681 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,640 Because he knew if he got convicted of those, 1682 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,440 he wouldn't see the light of day again. 1683 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,200 But we knew at that point, there is still a long way to go. 1684 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,320 You know, in major crime that charging and getting somebody 1685 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,680 in custody is step... almost step one. 1686 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,080 From that point on, proving it, we had a lot of work to do 1687 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,320 to pull the offences together, join the cases up 1688 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,360 and get enough of a case to make sure 1689 01:20:57,440 --> 01:20:59,400 that he would get found guilty. 1690 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,200 The trial started on 1 October, but the first two weeks 1691 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,800 virtually were spent up choosing a jury, 1692 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,360 where you don't have forensic evidence, 1693 01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,840 where you haven't got a DNA profile or fingerprints 1694 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,760 or things like that, there is always the chance that the jury will say, 1695 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,000 "You haven't proved this." 1696 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,800 I'm somebody who has spent quite a lot of my life 1697 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,080 around courts and to be honest I quite enjoy the theatre 1698 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,520 and the drama of a court trial, but this time, you know, 1699 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,640 the stakes were really high. 1700 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,000 This was something that I'd put a lot of time and effort into, 1701 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,680 all my team had put an awful lot of time and effort into. 1702 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,080 Amelie Delagrange's parents were there for the entire trial, 1703 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,280 other families were here as and when it was relevant to them 1704 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,760 and also we had the victims whose cases we couldn't charge 1705 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,600 because there wasn't any evidence but nevertheless, 1706 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,080 they came along, they wanted to see justice done. 1707 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,040 I guess the victims and the victims' families, 1708 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,400 the thing that I would say overall to describe them, 1709 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:04,600 is just the dignified way in which they conducted 1710 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,280 themselves throughout. 1711 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,720 And that was in stark contrast to the sneering 1712 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,120 and damn right offensive way 1713 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,600 that Bellfield sometimes conducted himself 1714 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:16,920 during that trial. 1715 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,920 He came across as, sort of, arrogant man 1716 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,480 who kind of swaggered his way into the dock, 1717 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,720 Bellfield had little respect for anybody involved, 1718 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,480 he was not a likeable character. 1719 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,120 He called Amelie Delagrange parents "scum." 1720 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,160 How dare somebody like him having done 1721 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:37,440 what he has done, call these dignified, 1722 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,480 wonderful people whose daughter he had slain... 1723 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,960 how can he call them "scum?" 1724 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,360 He really still genuinely believed at that point 1725 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:49,680 that he would be able to talk his way out of this one, 1726 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,840 like he had virtually everything throughout his life. 1727 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,840 We knew that if this man 1728 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,520 were allowed back out on the streets, 1729 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,240 he would offend again. 1730 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,120 The turning point came when Bellfield 1731 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,240 was under cross examination and he got a little bit 1732 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,800 kind of unsettled by this and eventually said, 1733 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,440 "Look, you've got to understand, 1734 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,640 "I'm fighting for my life here," 1735 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,280 and using those very words... 1736 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,000 as soon as he used them I looked at the judge, I looked at the jury 1737 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,440 and realised they were thinking the same as me, that 1738 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,640 "You're saying you're fighting for your life, Bellfield, 1739 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,680 "but you never gave that chance to Amelie Delagrange, 1740 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,720 "you never gave that chance to Marsha McDonnell. 1741 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,880 "Why should we care that you are fighting for your life, 1742 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,560 "when you've taken some?" 1743 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,680 Gradually, as he realised the strength of the evidence 1744 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,160 and the relentlessness of the questioning 1745 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,680 and the bringing up of these circumstances 1746 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,320 which showed what he had done, 1747 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,120 you could virtually see in his face 1748 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,120 the realisation that it was going south, 1749 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,880 that it wasn't going well for him. 1750 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,920 And I have to say perhaps it's wrong of me 1751 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,000 but I loved it, I loved 1752 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,440 to watch him crumble like that. 1753 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,480 The day of the verdict, the court room was absolutely packed 1754 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,240 to the brim with press, police and everyone 1755 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,400 who had anything to do with Bellfield 1756 01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:11,200 and it is so nerve wracking waiting for that sentence, 1757 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,040 because you're thinking, "This could go either way, 1758 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,040 "it can always go either way depending on the jury." 1759 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:22,320 The first verdict that came was on the Marsha McDonnell case 1760 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:27,120 and the foreman said that by a majority verdict 1761 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,400 he was guilty, and I remember saying to Jo, 1762 01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:34,080 "That was actually our weakest case 1763 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,600 "and if they've convicted him of that, 1764 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,080 "he's going to be convicted of the next two." 1765 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:45,680 And we sat there, and we heard from that foreman the words 1766 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,720 we'd wanted for so many months, 1767 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,040 that everything we had done was worthwhile 1768 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,480 and Bellfield was guilty 1769 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:52,680 and we knew at that point 1770 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,520 that the only thing that would happen to him 1771 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,000 was going to be a whole life tariff, 1772 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,240 he was gonna be in prison forever. 1773 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,320 And, you know, that's what he deserved 1774 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,160 and what we had been working for. 1775 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,000 This was it, this was game over for him. 1776 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,360 His life was done. 1777 01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:12,320 When we got that conviction, I think most of us burst into tears 1778 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,800 because it was absolutely overwhelming, 1779 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,160 including Colin. 1780 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,560 Just absolutely overwhelming feeling. 1781 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,160 I don't believe that 1782 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,520 justice being served gives closure. 1783 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,560 I don't believe that families 1784 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,240 who have lost a loved one 1785 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,840 to murder ever have closure. 1786 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,480 The beginning of this year 1787 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,920 was the most difficult I was in, 1788 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,080 going through all the motions 1789 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,120 of pain... 1790 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,800 backflashes... 1791 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,640 details and, of course, 1792 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,840 missing Marsha more than ever. 1793 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,520 Over this period of time it's been hard to watch someone 1794 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,720 who's killed your daughter, but he was arrogant in court 1795 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,000 and he acted as if he was above the law. 1796 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,360 All we've done for the families of the victims 1797 01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:08,160 that have been murdered is the very best we could. 1798 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:13,040 And a very small part of helping them to go on 1799 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,680 and adjust to live their life afterwards. 1800 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:16,720 Of course, I will never be 1801 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,040 able to forget what happened to me, 1802 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,480 the scars on my body 1803 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,680 and the memories I have 1804 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,080 are something I will never be rid of, 1805 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,840 but hopefully I can move on. 1806 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,520 Attending court and facing my attacker was very difficult, 1807 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,680 but something I felt was important. 1808 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,960 The court process has been 1809 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,120 a long and arduous one 1810 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,800 that has stirred up many unwelcome memories 1811 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,800 and a lot of evidence has been hard to listen 1812 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,280 to, but it is finally over 1813 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,320 and the fact that Bellfield 1814 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:40,360 has been found guilty means 1815 01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:41,880 more to me than I can possibly say. 1816 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,520 The life sentence may provide some closure 1817 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,040 for his victims' families, 1818 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,400 but the file on Levi Bellfield is still open. 1819 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,960 The people we've really helped 1820 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,400 in Bellfield's case, 1821 01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:58,480 by locking him away, are the people 1822 01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,840 who he would have assaulted 1823 01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:01,000 and who would have become 1824 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,160 his victims in the future 1825 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,240 and they don't know it, 1826 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,280 but they are the ones 1827 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,520 we've really helped. 1828 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,800 Having been convicted of Amelie and Marsha's murders 1829 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,080 and the attempted murder of Kate Sheedy, 1830 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,160 post-trial, the media were allowed 1831 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,800 to run a background on Levi Bellfield. 1832 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,360 There were huge appeals to try and find the red Daewoo 1833 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:25,640 which he had undoubtedly used to transport Milly's body. 1834 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,400 Another offence that was part of the series 1835 01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:34,000 was that of Rachel Cowles 1836 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,160 who was subjected to a potential abduction 1837 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,600 on 20 March, 2002, as it happens was the day 1838 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,040 before Milly Dowler was abducted. 1839 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,640 Rachel Cowles offence occurred in Shepperton, she was aged 11, 1840 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,680 her mother reported it to the police, 1841 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:49,840 not a great deal was done, 1842 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,160 there was the registration of the crime, 1843 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,280 but more importantly, three years later 1844 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,840 when there is an appeal regarding 1845 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,720 a red vehicle related to Levi Bellfield. 1846 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,080 Rachel's mother made the connection and contacted police again 1847 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,200 to flag up the fact that that vehicle almost certainly 1848 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,240 was the same one used in the offence against her daughter. 1849 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,520 That being the case, it made the incident 1850 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,960 against Rachel become particularly relevant. 1851 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,960 Because it showed that he was in that area. 1852 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,960 He was living in that block of flats where Milly was literally walking 1853 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,040 by when she vanished. 1854 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,640 Eventually, it ended up with Bellfield standing trial 1855 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,040 for Milly's murder. 1856 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,400 We have some breaking news concerning Levi Bellfield, 1857 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:34,880 he has been found guilty 1858 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,320 of the abduction and murder 1859 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,440 of Milly Dowler. 1860 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,840 Levi Bellfield who is, 1861 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,240 of course, already convicted 1862 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:43,680 of two other murders, 1863 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,800 is now convicted of the murder 1864 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,640 of Milly Dowler, which for many years 1865 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,040 was one of the most 1866 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,080 notorious unsolved murders. 1867 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,600 He now officially, because 1868 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,360 he is convicted of a third murder, 1869 01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:57,760 now becomes officially 1870 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,120 at least a serial killer. 1871 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,600 It was the most difficult investigation I've ever done 1872 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,520 because it was so wide ranging and so complicated. 1873 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,680 And there's no doubt of all the people 1874 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,440 I've met in 30 years, he is the most dangerous, 1875 01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,920 he is the most unpredictable 1876 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,160 and the most violent. 1877 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:20,480 He is the person I am proudest of being able to play a part 1878 01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,720 in taking out of circulation. 1879 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:27,000 Because I seriously think that that's the most I could do 1880 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,280 for the community of London, was to put him away, 1881 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,600 more than any other criminals I've ever dealt with. 1882 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,040 It wasn't an easy case, it was difficult to solve 1883 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,800 and it had to be solved, as far as my career goes, 1884 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,840 it was undoubtedly a standout point, yes. 1885 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,800 Some people have described the Bellfield case, 1886 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,720 the investigation, as an old-fashioned detective case, 1887 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,120 we had no forensic evidence, 1888 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,800 there were no fingerprints, there was no DNA. 1889 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,640 That's why we had to piece together this circumstantial case 1890 01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:01,200 and although the bedrock of that was CCTV and phone data, 1891 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,600 an awful lot of time spent by my very talented 1892 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,880 and dedicated officers, pacing around the streets, 1893 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,640 knocking on doors, taking statements, 1894 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,520 getting small pieces of information 1895 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,360 that we were able to assemble to make the case. 1896 01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:17,000 Colin handled the case brilliantly. 1897 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,680 I mean, this was a high-profile job, 1898 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,320 and he was under some serious pressure. 1899 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,160 I don't think, to be honest with you, you know, 1900 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,960 that anyone else could have done a better job to be fair. 1901 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,440 Personally, I think there is other offending, 1902 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:30,840 I think there is other things wrapped 1903 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,960 around Levi Bellfield that could come to light, 1904 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,120 given the right set of circumstances. 1905 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,800 I don't think it's a done deal. 1906 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,600 If there is the opportunity and the resources 1907 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,640 and a set of circumstances exist, 1908 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:47,080 I think there could be further investigation work to carry on. 1909 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,920 The victims should be the most important people 1910 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,800 involved in the case, 1911 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,760 is my thought on it, 1912 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:53,800 so it's important 1913 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:54,840 that they are remembered. 1914 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,360 They were the innocent people 1915 01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:58,280 who very unfortunately 1916 01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,720 and sadly for their families, 1917 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:01,520 were hurt by him. 1918 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,440 During that inquiry which lasted four years, 1919 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,080 I met a lot of people of whom family members, 1920 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,120 friends, some of them 1921 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,480 I'm still friends with today, 1922 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:12,760 standing there at the old Bailey 1923 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:13,800 at that conviction 1924 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,440 was the highlight of my career. 1925 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,600 I've no doubt that at some point if I'm fortunate enough 1926 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,520 to outlive him, that somebody will come to me and say, 1927 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,400 "What are your comments?" 1928 01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:25,560 You know, I won't mourn Levi Bellfield 1929 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,680 and I think very few people will. 161621

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