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Does that count? 6 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:23,545 WOMAN: And here you are looking wonderful, I must say. 7 00:00:23,588 --> 00:00:26,200 MAN: And he owes me a meal. 8 00:00:26,243 --> 00:00:27,723 WOMAN: Yes, he does. 9 00:00:27,766 --> 00:00:33,903 [ Orchestra warming up ] 10 00:00:59,972 --> 00:01:01,278 [ Conducting baton tapping ] 11 00:01:03,324 --> 00:01:05,021 MAN: The artist Paul Klee said that a line 12 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:07,458 is a dot out for a walk, 13 00:01:07,502 --> 00:01:10,331 and without Hirschfeld, it's out for a dance. 14 00:01:10,374 --> 00:01:12,855 It's out for a jump. It's out for a frolic, 15 00:01:12,898 --> 00:01:14,552 and you just watch the line, 16 00:01:14,596 --> 00:01:16,250 watch it sometimes, you'll see it curlicue around, 17 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:17,468 just like music. 18 00:01:17,512 --> 00:01:20,515 [ Music playing ] 19 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:30,829 ROBERT GOULET: He's drawn me about 10 times. 20 00:01:30,873 --> 00:01:33,919 We have about five Al Hirschfelds in our home. 21 00:01:33,963 --> 00:01:37,184 ROBERT LOGGIA: Yes, he did in Toys In The Attic 22 00:01:37,227 --> 00:01:38,446 and Boom Boom Room. 23 00:01:38,489 --> 00:01:40,491 I did Showboata long time ago, 24 00:01:40,535 --> 00:01:43,015 and he had this wonderful drawing of me dancing. 25 00:01:45,192 --> 00:01:47,716 When I picked up my copy of the New York Times, 26 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:50,153 and I see your work in it, 27 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:52,024 it's home to me. 28 00:01:52,068 --> 00:01:54,549 I have two of the most wonderful drawings 29 00:01:54,592 --> 00:01:56,420 of yours, that I treasure. 30 00:01:56,464 --> 00:01:58,596 Yes, I have a wonderful caricature by Al Hirschfeld, 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,032 yes. 32 00:02:00,076 --> 00:02:03,732 And every Sunday, I counted Ninas. 33 00:02:03,775 --> 00:02:05,473 I wanted to see how many times he wrote Nina, 34 00:02:05,516 --> 00:02:08,476 and I'd try to find this marvel of mystery, 35 00:02:08,519 --> 00:02:10,826 of where has he signed "Nina," 36 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:12,523 "Nina, Nina." 37 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:15,570 [ Music playing ] 38 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:35,198 MAN: Hirschfeld represents the history of entertainment 39 00:02:35,242 --> 00:02:37,287 in this country, 40 00:02:37,331 --> 00:02:39,159 really, for the entire century. 41 00:02:39,202 --> 00:02:42,640 I don't know if anybody who's chronicled it better. 42 00:02:42,684 --> 00:02:44,076 LIZA: Thank you. 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,731 In the theater, a playwright can create a character 44 00:02:46,775 --> 00:02:48,951 with a few brilliant lines. 45 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:49,995 The theater has been blessed 46 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:51,867 by the presence of a great artist 47 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:54,391 who can create a single brilliant line 48 00:02:54,435 --> 00:02:57,220 and tell you everything about a character. 49 00:02:57,264 --> 00:03:00,049 He's been doing so for close to 70 years. 50 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:02,399 One of the highest honors a member of our profession 51 00:03:02,443 --> 00:03:04,880 can achieve is to be immortalized 52 00:03:04,923 --> 00:03:08,579 with a stroke of the pen by this master of portraiture. 53 00:03:08,623 --> 00:03:10,364 Just about every show that ever came to Broadway 54 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:13,410 has benefitted from his inspired drawings. 55 00:03:13,454 --> 00:03:16,283 The Tony Awards joins his millions of fans 56 00:03:16,326 --> 00:03:19,024 in wishing him such a happy birthday, 57 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:22,811 his 90th birthday this month. 58 00:03:22,854 --> 00:03:24,943 Mr. Hirschfeld, will you stand up. 59 00:03:24,987 --> 00:03:27,032 Ladies and gentlemen, Al Hirschfeld. 60 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:30,079 [ Applause ] 61 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:43,788 JULES: The only glamour left in the theater 62 00:03:43,832 --> 00:03:45,268 is what Al Hirschfeld, brings to it 63 00:03:45,312 --> 00:03:47,923 and he is to what he does 64 00:03:47,966 --> 00:03:50,273 what Astaire was to what he did. 65 00:03:50,317 --> 00:03:52,188 Al has the same effortlessness, 66 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:53,363 the same grace, 67 00:03:53,407 --> 00:03:55,974 the same wit, 68 00:03:56,018 --> 00:03:58,890 and that lighter-than-air quality. 69 00:03:58,934 --> 00:04:00,892 KATHARINE: He certainly really does it well, 70 00:04:00,936 --> 00:04:02,503 so he's great fun. 71 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,635 I mean, looking at his stuff is just-- 72 00:04:04,679 --> 00:04:06,463 it's a treat. 73 00:04:06,507 --> 00:04:09,118 Hilarious, me playing the piano, 74 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:12,295 tells the whole story... terrifying. 75 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:13,253 [ Laughing ] 76 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:17,300 FLORENCE: When he went to see a show, he kept a little pad 77 00:04:17,344 --> 00:04:20,738 in his pocket and made sketches in his pocket 78 00:04:20,782 --> 00:04:23,437 of what he was later going to do 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,699 on a bigger scale. 80 00:04:24,742 --> 00:04:26,048 CAROL: He's captured the performance 81 00:04:26,091 --> 00:04:29,965 and the red blood corpuscles 82 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:31,836 going around-- that go around, 83 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,447 the adrenaline that's shooting off, 84 00:04:33,490 --> 00:04:35,753 and the electricity -- he captures it, 85 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:37,146 right there on paper. 86 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:39,279 It's the magic of the theater. 87 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:43,152 STEFAN: Al is considered one of the very high art form, 88 00:04:43,195 --> 00:04:45,807 and it's a pity that he has to be known as a caricaturist, 89 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:48,026 but that's the only word for what he does. 90 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:50,028 The word itself 91 00:04:50,072 --> 00:04:52,335 comes from an Italian word, caricatura, 92 00:04:52,379 --> 00:04:55,382 which means "to stuff a sausage". 93 00:04:55,425 --> 00:04:57,253 And what that has to do with anything, 94 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:58,820 I don't know. 95 00:04:58,863 --> 00:05:00,474 MAN: There's Al Hirschfeld, and then there are 96 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:01,518 the other caricatures. 97 00:05:01,562 --> 00:05:03,172 It's like Sondheim 98 00:05:03,215 --> 00:05:05,435 writes musicals, and there's Sondheim musicals, 99 00:05:05,479 --> 00:05:07,481 and then there's everybody else's musical. 100 00:05:07,524 --> 00:05:09,613 I mean, he does a different kind of art form. 101 00:05:15,663 --> 00:05:17,186 [ Car honking ] 102 00:05:17,229 --> 00:05:18,709 PHILIP: The other interesting thing about Al 103 00:05:18,753 --> 00:05:20,363 is his driving. 104 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:23,235 He's in touch with some gods 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,499 that the rest of us don't know anything about. 106 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:27,631 MARIA: When Al drives a car, 107 00:05:27,675 --> 00:05:29,720 everybody else 108 00:05:29,764 --> 00:05:31,635 counts their rosaries or their beads 109 00:05:31,679 --> 00:05:34,812 or says, "Have 'I made out my will?" 110 00:05:34,856 --> 00:05:36,379 AL: Slower or keep it going? 111 00:05:36,423 --> 00:05:38,033 MAN: Yeah, a little slower. 112 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:39,904 MARIA: Most of the time, they don't dare say 113 00:05:39,948 --> 00:05:41,602 that they're scared to death. 114 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:43,343 WOMAN: Okay, just pull in here. 115 00:05:47,782 --> 00:05:49,131 You're too close to the white car. 116 00:05:49,174 --> 00:05:50,828 AL: You're gonna get your car hit. 117 00:05:50,872 --> 00:05:54,223 -WOMAN: No, stop, stop, stop. -MARIA: Nothing ever happens. 118 00:05:54,266 --> 00:05:58,749 Dear God, hear me, nothing ever happens. 119 00:05:58,793 --> 00:06:02,100 MAN: Al Hirschfeld was aisle-struck early on. 120 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:03,972 Russel Crouse was a playwright 121 00:06:04,015 --> 00:06:06,278 with Howard Lindsay who did a number of hits. 122 00:06:06,322 --> 00:06:09,020 The one most memorable isLife with Father, 123 00:06:09,064 --> 00:06:11,458 and he met Al Hirschfeld 124 00:06:11,501 --> 00:06:14,548 early on when Hirschfeld was breaking in as a caricaturist. 125 00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:17,072 He described him as a person 126 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:19,509 who had had a black beard 127 00:06:19,553 --> 00:06:22,382 and very young eyes, and it reminded him of a-- 128 00:06:22,425 --> 00:06:26,037 of a little boy looking over a well-trimmed hedge. 129 00:06:26,081 --> 00:06:28,300 And the hedge has gotten white, 130 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:31,652 but the little boy is still looking over it. 131 00:06:31,695 --> 00:06:34,916 AL: Well, I've drawn ever since I could hold a pencil. 132 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:37,005 Actually, all kids draw. 133 00:06:37,048 --> 00:06:38,702 I just never stopped. 134 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:42,358 [ Piano playing ] 135 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:44,752 I was the youngest of three brothers, 136 00:06:44,795 --> 00:06:46,493 born in 1903, 137 00:06:46,536 --> 00:06:49,321 oddly on the longest day of the year. 138 00:06:49,365 --> 00:06:51,280 June the 21st. 139 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,458 My oldest brother was called Al. 140 00:06:55,502 --> 00:06:57,155 I don't know why we were both called Al, 141 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:58,461 but we both were. 142 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:00,507 I was Albert, and he was Alexander. 143 00:07:00,550 --> 00:07:05,163 It complicated our bank accounts as we grew older. 144 00:07:05,207 --> 00:07:09,646 Al was a gifted pianist, and he hated the piano. 145 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,256 Never wanted to play the piano, 146 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:14,303 and he ran away from home and became a salesman. 147 00:07:14,346 --> 00:07:18,176 He went on the road selling peanuts. 148 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:20,657 My other brother, who I was much closer to, 149 00:07:20,701 --> 00:07:23,399 Milton, he died during the flu epidemic 150 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,488 in the first World War. 151 00:07:25,532 --> 00:07:29,144 I was of that generation that missed both wars, actually. 152 00:07:29,187 --> 00:07:31,494 It was a very odd thing, but people of my age 153 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:34,105 were too young for the first World War 154 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:36,456 and too old for the second World War. 155 00:07:38,196 --> 00:07:39,937 When my parents met, they didn't speak 156 00:07:39,981 --> 00:07:41,896 each other's language. 157 00:07:41,939 --> 00:07:43,637 My father had come to St. Louis 158 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,290 from Albany, New York, 159 00:07:45,334 --> 00:07:47,292 where his father was a tailor. 160 00:07:47,336 --> 00:07:49,599 Pop spoke only English. 161 00:07:49,643 --> 00:07:52,297 My mother who arrived in St. Louis from Russia 162 00:07:52,341 --> 00:07:55,126 spoke only Russian and Yiddish. 163 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:57,955 I guess love or affection conquers all. 164 00:07:59,348 --> 00:08:02,656 I attribute my longevity to my parents. 165 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:05,093 Pop lived to be 93. 166 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:07,530 Mom to 91. 167 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:11,491 DOLLY: Al grew up with this fierce woman, 168 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:13,536 fierce for life 169 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:15,669 and the knowledge 170 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:19,542 that she had a very talented son. 171 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:21,588 AL: As a kid in St. Louis, 172 00:08:21,631 --> 00:08:23,198 there was an artist there, 173 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:25,940 and he used to take me out drawing 174 00:08:25,983 --> 00:08:27,507 on the weekends, 175 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:29,204 and he convinced my parents 176 00:08:29,247 --> 00:08:31,423 to come to New York, that there was no future for me 177 00:08:31,467 --> 00:08:34,644 in St. Louis, and so my mother, 178 00:08:34,688 --> 00:08:36,777 who ran the family, really, 179 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:40,694 picked us all up and brought us to New York. 180 00:08:40,737 --> 00:08:44,393 Well, we arrived in New York, when I was about 12, 181 00:08:44,436 --> 00:08:48,136 and we arrived at Penn Station 182 00:08:48,179 --> 00:08:52,009 and got on the Amsterdam Avenue street car 183 00:08:52,053 --> 00:08:53,837 and went to the end of the line, 184 00:08:53,881 --> 00:08:57,493 and we started walking down through mostly farmland... 185 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,887 It was all apple orchards up there, 186 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:02,933 and we got to as far as about 183rd Street, 187 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:04,326 and there was a little house there, 188 00:09:04,369 --> 00:09:05,806 and my mother went in 189 00:09:05,849 --> 00:09:07,851 and then inquired about an apartment, 190 00:09:07,895 --> 00:09:10,245 and we rented the top floor of this house 191 00:09:10,288 --> 00:09:12,029 for four dollars a month. 192 00:09:13,857 --> 00:09:17,469 Seems ridiculous, but my father never worked. 193 00:09:17,513 --> 00:09:19,341 My mother worked. 194 00:09:19,384 --> 00:09:22,170 And my father took care of the kids. 195 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:23,519 He was marvelous with kids. 196 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,477 He was the umpire of the ball game, 197 00:09:25,521 --> 00:09:27,392 and that sort of thing. 198 00:09:27,436 --> 00:09:29,525 My father was an original. 199 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,876 He started the trotting races on the Harlem River Drive. 200 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,140 In his later years, he invented the phrase 201 00:09:36,184 --> 00:09:38,665 "senior citizen." 202 00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:41,493 My mother was the breadwinner in our family. 203 00:09:41,537 --> 00:09:43,670 She worked in department stores, 204 00:09:43,713 --> 00:09:45,802 had a candy store in St. Louis. 205 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:47,848 She was the one who supported us. 206 00:09:49,545 --> 00:09:52,504 [ Music playing ] 207 00:09:52,548 --> 00:09:55,159 AL: When I was about 14, 208 00:09:55,203 --> 00:09:57,814 my mother took me to see a musical comedy 209 00:09:57,858 --> 00:10:01,035 called "Hijinks" at the Maxine Elliott theater, 210 00:10:01,078 --> 00:10:03,167 and that was my first experience 211 00:10:03,211 --> 00:10:05,735 in the theater, and I was enchanted with it. 212 00:10:05,779 --> 00:10:09,696 It just transported me to another world. 213 00:10:09,739 --> 00:10:11,741 And I had discovered vaudeville. 214 00:10:11,785 --> 00:10:13,656 I became a buff at vaudeville, 215 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,486 went every Monday afternoon to the Palace theater. 216 00:10:17,529 --> 00:10:19,749 Signs of a misspent youth. 217 00:10:19,793 --> 00:10:21,838 MAN: From coast to coast stretched an endless chain 218 00:10:21,882 --> 00:10:24,275 of vaudeville houses, forever prosperous. 219 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:27,017 Offering a lifetime of bookings to popular acts. 220 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:30,804 AL: You might say that I was stage-struck. 221 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:34,416 I was mesmerized by the stage. 222 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:36,984 I found myself sitting out in front 223 00:10:37,027 --> 00:10:38,681 performing in my chair. 224 00:10:38,725 --> 00:10:43,773 Actually doing a visual response to what I was seeing. 225 00:10:43,817 --> 00:10:46,733 [ Music playing ] 226 00:10:46,776 --> 00:10:49,083 AL: Almost everybody had to be in vaudeville. 227 00:10:49,126 --> 00:10:50,650 That was their training. 228 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:52,564 Between burlesque and vaudeville, 229 00:10:52,608 --> 00:10:54,958 all the comics came out of there, you know. 230 00:10:55,002 --> 00:10:56,699 W.C. Fields, 231 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:58,005 Ed Wynn, 232 00:10:58,048 --> 00:10:59,310 Marx Brothers. 233 00:10:59,354 --> 00:11:00,747 [ Music playing ] 234 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:02,487 -MAN: Hey, hey. -AL: Weber and Fields. 235 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:03,793 MAN: Hey, buddy, stop, don't you-- don't lay it down. 236 00:11:03,837 --> 00:11:05,099 You put the oyster in the milk. 237 00:11:05,142 --> 00:11:06,361 And you drown the oyster. 238 00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:07,710 No, you don't drown the oyster. 239 00:11:07,754 --> 00:11:09,756 Hey, what is that you got there? 240 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:11,018 Why, that's a newspaper. 241 00:11:11,061 --> 00:11:12,715 I thought it was wrapping paper. 242 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,108 That's the evening news. 243 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:15,718 It appears like a post. 244 00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:19,722 AL: There was a thing called Scandinavia. 245 00:11:19,766 --> 00:11:22,072 I doubt if that rings a bell at all. 246 00:11:22,116 --> 00:11:25,728 It was done in a kind of a Swedish accent, you know. 247 00:11:25,772 --> 00:11:27,512 ♪ Scandinavia♪ 248 00:11:27,556 --> 00:11:28,949 ♪ I love you♪ 249 00:11:28,992 --> 00:11:32,256 ♪ I thank you, fine Swedish gal♪ 250 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,302 ♪ You know for you I would die♪ 251 00:11:34,345 --> 00:11:36,217 ♪ But never ask me to try♪ 252 00:11:36,260 --> 00:11:37,958 ♪ Those Swedish pastry of yours♪ 253 00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:40,351 ♪ Because they think somehow♪ 254 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:41,918 ♪ I don't wanna die now♪ 255 00:11:41,962 --> 00:11:43,615 ♪ Oh, Scandinavia♪ 256 00:11:43,659 --> 00:11:45,966 ♪ As a cook... afraid♪ 257 00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:47,532 ♪ You'll never do♪ 258 00:11:47,576 --> 00:11:49,578 ♪ But when you sing those songs♪ 259 00:11:49,621 --> 00:11:51,841 ♪ You'll make those music sing those songs♪ 260 00:11:51,885 --> 00:11:53,495 ♪ And make those music♪ 261 00:11:53,538 --> 00:11:55,540 ♪ Scandinavia♪ 262 00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:57,281 ♪ I love you♪ 263 00:11:58,761 --> 00:12:02,678 He didn't really begin as a caricaturist. 264 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:05,289 He began as a sculptor. 265 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:09,032 I don't know if you have seen his two first efforts 266 00:12:09,076 --> 00:12:12,035 when he was 14 and 17. 267 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:15,299 Well, I started out actually -- I wanted to be a sculptor. 268 00:12:15,343 --> 00:12:18,128 Sculpture is really a drawing that you fall over in the dark, 269 00:12:18,172 --> 00:12:22,567 but it's a drawing, it's a three-dimensional drawing. 270 00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:24,874 Practically, all the mediums I worked in, 271 00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:25,875 watercolor and oil 272 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:27,790 and then lithography 273 00:12:27,834 --> 00:12:30,271 and etching... 274 00:12:30,314 --> 00:12:32,403 I went to the National Academy of Art 275 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:35,319 at night, and the Art Students League. 276 00:12:35,363 --> 00:12:37,278 But how to make a living was very difficult. 277 00:12:37,321 --> 00:12:39,671 But I finally got a job, 278 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:42,500 quite by accident, like all things in life, 279 00:12:42,544 --> 00:12:44,589 at Goldwyn Pictures, 280 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:47,244 Howard Dietz was the advertising manager there. 281 00:12:47,288 --> 00:12:49,812 And I got a job there at four dollars a week 282 00:12:51,292 --> 00:12:52,728 in the art department. 283 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:54,121 I worked at Metro Pictures 284 00:12:54,164 --> 00:12:56,514 before it became Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer 285 00:12:56,558 --> 00:12:59,822 and First National before it became Warner Bros. 286 00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:02,346 At Metro, I did all the comedians, 287 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:03,608 Charley Chase, 288 00:13:03,652 --> 00:13:05,262 Laurel and Hardy, 289 00:13:05,306 --> 00:13:06,873 Buster Keaton, 290 00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:08,091 and Charlie Chaplin 291 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:10,006 for Pathé Pictures. 292 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:11,573 It's hard to believe 293 00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:13,793 but I was only 18 or 19 years old 294 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:15,229 when I became art director 295 00:13:15,272 --> 00:13:17,535 of Selznick Pictures. 296 00:13:17,579 --> 00:13:20,669 DANIEL: He worked for my grandfather, L.J. Selznick 297 00:13:20,712 --> 00:13:22,758 in 1916, 1917. 298 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:24,325 It was his first job in New York 299 00:13:24,368 --> 00:13:25,543 when my grandfather Selznick 300 00:13:25,587 --> 00:13:28,416 was producing silent pictures. 301 00:13:28,459 --> 00:13:29,896 AL: And the old man Selznick 302 00:13:29,939 --> 00:13:32,681 and his son David 303 00:13:32,724 --> 00:13:35,858 suggested that I could take over the art department, 304 00:13:35,902 --> 00:13:37,642 which I did. 305 00:13:37,686 --> 00:13:40,167 And I opened a separate place on 53rd Street. 306 00:13:40,210 --> 00:13:42,517 I had a studio, and I hired all of the artists 307 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:47,348 that were on the payroll at Selznick. 308 00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:51,700 And after about two months, I was getting trade acceptances, 309 00:13:51,743 --> 00:13:53,484 and they went bankrupt. 310 00:13:53,528 --> 00:13:56,009 And I found myself owing an awful lot of money. 311 00:13:56,052 --> 00:13:58,794 I was then about 19, 312 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:00,622 so I took a job again at Warner Brothers 313 00:14:00,665 --> 00:14:03,103 and paid off all my debts. 314 00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:04,495 And once I had finished that, 315 00:14:04,539 --> 00:14:06,933 that was the changing point in my life, really, 316 00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:10,327 because at that point, my uncle came to New York. 317 00:14:10,371 --> 00:14:12,329 And he was very proud of the fact 318 00:14:12,373 --> 00:14:14,854 that I paid off all my debts, and so on. 319 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:16,812 He said, "How would you like you go to Europe?" 320 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,118 [ Music playing ] 321 00:14:18,161 --> 00:14:19,815 AL: So, I said, "Well, I'd love to go, 322 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:21,643 but I've never thought about it." 323 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:24,689 So, he gave me $500, 324 00:14:24,733 --> 00:14:28,041 and I bought a passage on the maiden voyage 325 00:14:28,084 --> 00:14:30,260 of the SS De Grasse. 326 00:14:30,304 --> 00:14:31,435 It was a French liner. 327 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:33,307 One-cabin ship, 328 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:35,396 and it was $65. 329 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:37,615 [ Music playing ] 330 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:40,096 AL: That whole romantic idea of Paris in the '20s 331 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:44,622 attracted most of the writers and painters at the time. 332 00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:47,147 I rented a studio with two other fellows. 333 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:49,105 It was $33 apiece. 334 00:14:49,149 --> 00:14:51,673 So, that was a hundred dollars a year. 335 00:14:51,716 --> 00:14:53,370 We had running water but no hot water. 336 00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:54,763 So, we all grew a beard 337 00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:56,373 because it was impossible to shave. 338 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:00,769 It's so long ago, it never occurred to me to shave since. 339 00:15:00,812 --> 00:15:02,423 Although on one occasion, I must say, 340 00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:04,904 that I shaved off half of my beard 341 00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:07,907 on one side and half my mustache on the other 342 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,518 and came around the dome, 343 00:15:10,561 --> 00:15:12,520 thinking this would startle everybody, 344 00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:14,478 and nobody noticed in the end. 345 00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:19,657 I was the tap dancer and played the ukulele 346 00:15:19,701 --> 00:15:22,138 in Zelli's, which was a night club 347 00:15:22,182 --> 00:15:23,966 on the Right Bank. 348 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:25,837 Well, it was a wonderful time to be alive 349 00:15:25,881 --> 00:15:28,014 and around in Paris. 350 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,625 Everybody was painting the great picture 351 00:15:30,668 --> 00:15:34,194 and writing the great American novel. 352 00:15:34,237 --> 00:15:35,978 There was Hemingway, 353 00:15:36,022 --> 00:15:40,243 Dos Passos, Picasso, Maurice Chevalier. 354 00:15:40,287 --> 00:15:43,290 MAN: [ Singing in French ] 355 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:48,643 AL: But the great toast of Paris in those years 356 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:50,210 was Josephine Baker. 357 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:53,256 [ Singing in French ] 358 00:15:54,866 --> 00:15:56,738 MAN: Now we're on our way to the world-famous... 359 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,653 -AL: I came back to the States. -MAN: ...Madison Square Garden 360 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:01,873 - for the big benefit... -AL: One evening in 1926, 361 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:03,397 I went to the theater 362 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,660 and Sacha Guitry and Yvonne Printemps 363 00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:07,314 were performing. 364 00:16:07,357 --> 00:16:09,229 And during the show, I made some sketches 365 00:16:09,272 --> 00:16:10,752 on the playbill, 366 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:13,537 drawings, were very rough, 367 00:16:13,581 --> 00:16:15,365 and Dick Maney, 368 00:16:15,409 --> 00:16:17,019 the press agent who accompanied me 369 00:16:17,063 --> 00:16:18,803 looked at it and said, 370 00:16:18,847 --> 00:16:21,676 "Look, why don't you put that on a clean piece of paper 371 00:16:21,719 --> 00:16:24,940 and let me try and sell it to one of the newspapers? 372 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:27,943 I did, and he placed it in the Tribune. 373 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,597 And the following week, 374 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,034 the Tribune called and asked me to do a drawing. 375 00:16:32,078 --> 00:16:33,383 That's how it started. 376 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:35,429 And that was it. 377 00:16:35,472 --> 00:16:36,778 It never occurred to me 378 00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:39,172 that I'd be making a living at it. 379 00:16:39,215 --> 00:16:40,434 WOMAN: ♪ Come on near♪ 380 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:41,870 ♪ Come on near♪ 381 00:16:41,913 --> 00:16:43,698 ♪ It's the best band in the land♪ 382 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:45,526 ♪ They can play a bugle♪ 383 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:47,658 ♪ Like you never heard before♪ 384 00:16:47,702 --> 00:16:50,313 ♪ They'll come at you if you wanna go to war♪ 385 00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:55,231 ♪ They're just -- come on board...♪ 386 00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:57,146 PAULA: Al didn't have to lock himself up 387 00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:59,018 in a room to do these drawings. 388 00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:03,239 He was able to work with swarms of people around. 389 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:09,289 And he was using the ubiquitous barber chair. 390 00:17:09,332 --> 00:17:12,379 AL: It's the last functional chair made, I think. 391 00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:14,598 It goes up and down, becomes a chaise lounge, 392 00:17:14,642 --> 00:17:16,252 it turns around. 393 00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:18,776 You have to fight to work in a chair like this. 394 00:17:20,517 --> 00:17:23,477 I worked on-- originally onThe Tribune 395 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,174 and thenThe Old World, 396 00:17:25,218 --> 00:17:26,958 and theTelegram Telegraph, 397 00:17:27,002 --> 00:17:28,873 andBrooklyn Eagle. 398 00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:33,139 I remember the Brooklyn Eagle was $7.50 a column. 399 00:17:33,182 --> 00:17:36,359 And they let me do whatever 400 00:17:36,403 --> 00:17:38,970 I wanted to do on that first page. 401 00:17:39,014 --> 00:17:44,585 And I devised a Machiavellian scheme for paying the room rent 402 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:49,372 by devising a... kind of a pie-shaped thing. 403 00:17:49,416 --> 00:17:51,505 It came to a point at one end 404 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:55,248 and then stretched out for eight columns. 405 00:17:55,291 --> 00:17:58,990 So, that came to, we'll say $40, you see, for the eight columns. 406 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:00,775 And then I have another banner 407 00:18:00,818 --> 00:18:03,517 high on that side coming to a point on this side. 408 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,258 And I remember Dick Maney 409 00:18:05,301 --> 00:18:07,695 said he's not gonna pay for those last three columns 410 00:18:07,738 --> 00:18:08,739 because there's nothing in there. 411 00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:11,394 It's just an empty space. 412 00:18:11,438 --> 00:18:13,353 This went on for years. 413 00:18:13,396 --> 00:18:17,400 I remember doing a drawing of Harry Kurnitz's play. 414 00:18:17,444 --> 00:18:18,706 And it was a nude. 415 00:18:18,749 --> 00:18:20,011 TheTimes wouldn't run it 416 00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:21,970 unless I put a brassiere on her. 417 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:24,755 So, I put a brassiere on it, 418 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:27,410 and it ran inThe Times with a brassiere, 419 00:18:27,454 --> 00:18:29,630 and it ran inThe Tribune without it. 420 00:18:29,673 --> 00:18:31,458 And I think a lot of publications, 421 00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:33,068 I thinkLife Magazine picked it up, 422 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,375 and had had, I think, called it "All the Nudes 423 00:18:35,418 --> 00:18:36,898 That's Fit to Print." 424 00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,031 WOMAN: ♪ Use...♪ 425 00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:44,601 ♪ Your imagination♪ 426 00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:51,652 ♪ Just take this motto for your theme♪ 427 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:55,177 ♪ And soon every night♪ 428 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:58,615 ♪ Will be crowded with delight♪ 429 00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:01,705 ♪ And every day♪ 430 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:06,710 ♪ Will be a dream♪ 431 00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:08,364 [ Music playing ] 432 00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:10,540 AL: I was very interested in politics, 433 00:19:10,584 --> 00:19:12,673 as a young man. 434 00:19:12,716 --> 00:19:14,805 And I think every young person should be. 435 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,986 And I went to the Soviet Union 436 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:23,466 to cover the theater. 437 00:19:24,641 --> 00:19:25,903 And I stayed there a year. 438 00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:27,470 This was 1927. 439 00:19:28,776 --> 00:19:31,300 And I must say the theater was marvelous. 440 00:19:31,344 --> 00:19:34,303 [ Music playing ] 441 00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:40,091 AL: In those years, I was very left. 442 00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:42,224 The only paper that would publish my political drawings 443 00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:44,226 wasThe New Masses. 444 00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:48,143 And so, I worked for them for a long time. 445 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,927 I remember doing a drawing one time 446 00:19:49,971 --> 00:19:54,105 of the parliament in London bombed. 447 00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:56,978 I had all the members of parliament in gas masks 448 00:19:57,021 --> 00:20:01,243 and Chamberlain addressing them with peace in our time. 449 00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:02,853 I brought it down to The Times 450 00:20:02,897 --> 00:20:04,464 when the parliament was bombed. 451 00:20:04,507 --> 00:20:06,596 Thinking it had some news. 452 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,816 Markel, who was the editor then, said, 453 00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:10,905 "No, it's a communist drawing." 454 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:13,168 And I know what he meant by that because it's a-- 455 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,996 was a lithograph, 456 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,346 and lithography was taken over 457 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:20,088 by the communist party at that time. 458 00:20:20,131 --> 00:20:21,959 The symbols were very odd. 459 00:20:22,003 --> 00:20:23,874 I mean, all the-- all the left-wing artists 460 00:20:23,918 --> 00:20:26,790 working as-- in lithography. 461 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:29,184 He said, "Why don't you take it to The New Masses?" 462 00:20:30,881 --> 00:20:32,840 So I said, "Well, okay." 463 00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:34,363 And I took it to The New Masses, 464 00:20:34,407 --> 00:20:36,539 and they used it in double-spread. 465 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:38,759 So he said, "I told you, it's a communist drawing." 466 00:20:38,802 --> 00:20:41,370 So I said, "Okay, it's a communist drawing." 467 00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:46,593 But, any rate, I decided then that that's not my field. 468 00:20:46,636 --> 00:20:50,988 I wasn't capable of switching my viewpoint 469 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:54,688 as easily as it is editorially to do. 470 00:20:54,731 --> 00:20:57,517 I like people, and customs, and manners, that kind of thing, 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,476 and that's my field, more or less. 472 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,478 STEPHAN: When Al Hirschfeld said he didn't have the venom 473 00:21:02,522 --> 00:21:04,828 to be a political cartoonist, 474 00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:06,047 it was not politics alone, 475 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:07,918 it was also his art form. 476 00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:10,269 I don't think that a person who has as much affection 477 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:12,880 as he does for the people that he draws 478 00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:14,447 could ever be mean, 479 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:17,319 and most people think of caricature as mean. 480 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,016 [ Music playing ] 481 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:21,802 PAULA: He's a social historian, and always has been, 482 00:21:21,845 --> 00:21:25,284 in the same way that Noeël Coward was. 483 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:29,244 And people thought lightly of his plays, 484 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,506 but then the years go by, 485 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:32,247 and they're revived and you say, 486 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:35,555 "Hey, this fella really knew what he was looking at." 487 00:21:35,598 --> 00:21:37,383 [ Music playing ] 488 00:21:37,426 --> 00:21:39,472 STEFAN: Just take a look at his pictures and you'll understand 489 00:21:39,515 --> 00:21:41,691 how much he knows about people. 490 00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:43,519 Often people look like hunting animals 491 00:21:43,563 --> 00:21:45,695 or hunted animals. 492 00:21:45,739 --> 00:21:47,784 And hunted animals always have their eyes in the side, 493 00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:49,351 like rabbits, and hunting animals 494 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:50,961 always have their eyes in the front like wolves, 495 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:52,223 and he understands that. 496 00:21:52,267 --> 00:21:53,616 And take a look at it sometimes, 497 00:21:53,660 --> 00:21:55,270 you see, particularly with young women, 498 00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,271 they always look very vulnerable 499 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,577 and have their eyes in the side 500 00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,013 because they're being hunted by men 501 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,928 who always have their eyes in the front. 502 00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,669 And then as they got to be 503 00:22:02,712 --> 00:22:04,932 in their late 20s or early 30s, and they wanna get married, 504 00:22:04,975 --> 00:22:07,021 their eyes start to move toward the front, and then they become 505 00:22:07,064 --> 00:22:08,631 the hunting animal, 506 00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:10,416 and he understands that. 507 00:22:10,459 --> 00:22:13,332 [ Music playing ] 508 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,204 AL: Well, after watching people for 90 years, 509 00:22:16,247 --> 00:22:18,380 you pick up a few things. 510 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:20,600 [ Music playing ] 511 00:22:22,471 --> 00:22:25,474 AL: In the late '20s, theNew York Times decided 512 00:22:25,518 --> 00:22:28,390 it wanted first crack at my drawings. 513 00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:31,132 The editor then, Lester Markel, 514 00:22:31,175 --> 00:22:34,353 didn't like seeing them in competing newspapers. 515 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:38,357 Mr. Markel said, "Listen, can't we make some sort of a deal?" 516 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,142 And I said very simply, "Easy. 517 00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:44,450 Just cross my palm with silver, and I'm your fella." 518 00:22:44,493 --> 00:22:46,060 So we shook hands on that, 519 00:22:46,103 --> 00:22:49,803 and I've been covering the arts for them ever since. 520 00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:53,023 Well, the times in those years was very conservative, 521 00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,851 and whenever I would do a drawing 522 00:22:54,895 --> 00:22:56,462 that I thought had some merit, 523 00:22:56,505 --> 00:22:59,943 I was called on the carpet by Mr. Markel, 524 00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:03,164 and he would say, "Make it less caricature. 525 00:23:03,207 --> 00:23:06,385 Can't you make people look a little more attractive? 526 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,908 I mean, when I go to the theater, 527 00:23:07,951 --> 00:23:09,910 I see beautiful people, 528 00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:11,999 but when I pick up theTimes on Sunday, 529 00:23:12,042 --> 00:23:14,784 I see a lot of animals cavorting around." 530 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:17,134 He said, "Is there anything we can do about that?" 531 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:19,746 And I said, "Yes, there is. 532 00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:22,401 You can get somebody else to do the drawing. 533 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:25,055 What you want is an eye, ear, nose and throat man, 534 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:26,753 you know, to make these drawings 535 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:29,408 and copy them academically 536 00:23:29,451 --> 00:23:32,323 and anatomically, and make them pretty. 537 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:33,586 I find no wit in that, 538 00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:36,806 and I don't like to do that kind of thing. 539 00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:39,722 And we would always part 540 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:41,420 shaking hands, and he would tell me 541 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:44,161 that he'd liked my drawings and so on. 542 00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:47,208 [ Music playing ] 543 00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:52,300 PAULA: I met him and I would-- 544 00:23:52,343 --> 00:23:56,391 I think must have been 35-- 1935, 545 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,350 and I was working with Orson at the time 546 00:23:59,394 --> 00:24:01,962 and '35, I did "Horse Eats Hat" 547 00:24:02,005 --> 00:24:05,095 and in '36, we did "Doctor Faustus." 548 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:07,358 Al was legally married 549 00:24:07,402 --> 00:24:10,231 but separated from his first wife, 550 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:11,667 whom I never met. 551 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:14,278 Her name was Flo Allen, 552 00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:20,241 and she was a chorus girl in Earl Carroll's Vanities. 553 00:24:20,284 --> 00:24:21,677 I met Al's mother, 554 00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:24,071 whom everyone called "Mom." 555 00:24:24,114 --> 00:24:26,377 Friday was Mom's day, 556 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:30,207 and she would come down and make a huge meal, 557 00:24:30,251 --> 00:24:32,601 and a lot of people would come and eat it, 558 00:24:32,645 --> 00:24:37,258 and that was sacrosanct, that belonged to her. 559 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:40,827 Al was not self-revealing, 560 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:45,614 in the sense of discussing things a lot. 561 00:24:45,658 --> 00:24:47,355 In the years 562 00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:50,967 when he was starting his career, 563 00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:52,752 he had made wonderful watercolors 564 00:24:52,795 --> 00:24:55,885 and lithographs, and nobody seemed really interested 565 00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:59,759 in any of his work except the caricatures, 566 00:24:59,802 --> 00:25:02,283 and I think that that was very hard for him, 567 00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:04,851 but you'd never know it from Al. 568 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:07,984 How he feels is totally his business. 569 00:25:08,028 --> 00:25:11,422 He had his own divining rod about the world 570 00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,250 and the people he liked, 571 00:25:13,294 --> 00:25:17,254 and I remember particularly George Braidwood McCoy, 572 00:25:17,298 --> 00:25:18,560 I'll never forget it. 573 00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:20,693 And I'm not quite sure what he did, 574 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:22,303 but he always had one night a week 575 00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:24,261 that he slept on Al's couch. 576 00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:25,915 He would check into my studio, 577 00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:27,613 where he slept many nights a week. 578 00:25:27,656 --> 00:25:29,223 He had two or three places like that 579 00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:31,225 that he could cadge in. 580 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:33,662 During the 1939 World Fair, 581 00:25:33,706 --> 00:25:35,969 he slept in the Royal Scot. 582 00:25:36,012 --> 00:25:39,276 The expression "the real McCoy" is based on this fella. 583 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,190 [ Laughing ] 584 00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,149 [ Music playing ] 585 00:25:42,192 --> 00:25:44,934 PAULA: One of my great experiences 586 00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:47,067 was going up to the Apollo Theater 587 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:48,982 within those days 588 00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:50,374 to hear Louis Armstrong. 589 00:25:50,418 --> 00:25:51,854 And I've never heard Louis Armstrong. 590 00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:55,031 And he had a 14-year old 591 00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:56,511 soloist on the program, 592 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,078 named Ella Fitzgerald. 593 00:25:58,121 --> 00:26:01,124 [ Music playing ] 594 00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:22,885 AL: In 1931, 595 00:26:22,929 --> 00:26:26,236 I went to Tahiti with my first wife, 596 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,455 Florence Hobby, 597 00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:30,153 whose stage name was Flo Allen, 598 00:26:30,197 --> 00:26:32,329 and we stayed there for a couple of months, 599 00:26:32,373 --> 00:26:34,941 and this very romantic adventure 600 00:26:34,984 --> 00:26:36,769 broke up our marriage. 601 00:26:38,901 --> 00:26:40,947 I had a friend, a caricaturist, 602 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:43,776 Miguel Covarrubias who was living in Bali at the time, 603 00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:46,474 and we corresponded quite often, 604 00:26:46,517 --> 00:26:48,084 and I was telling him 605 00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:50,217 after being in Tahiti for about two months, 606 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:52,001 I found it to be terrible. 607 00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,787 It was a rum-running port, corrupt, 608 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:56,789 horrible place to be, really. 609 00:26:56,832 --> 00:26:58,791 Food was awful and pimply-faced, 610 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:00,749 syphilitic natives. 611 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,229 It was unbearable, 612 00:27:02,272 --> 00:27:04,057 and Miguel was writing back to me, 613 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,842 telling me what a wonderful place Bali was. 614 00:27:06,886 --> 00:27:09,018 So I said, "When you leave, 615 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:10,846 leave the bicycle, and plates, 616 00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:13,544 and everything else, and I'll make it there somehow." 617 00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:16,112 He did. He left his bicycle, dishes, 618 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:17,461 and it was very easy for me 619 00:27:17,505 --> 00:27:20,029 when I arrived some months later. 620 00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:23,076 [ Music playing ] 621 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:28,342 AL: Everything that Covarrubias had told me 622 00:27:28,385 --> 00:27:30,823 came to be true. 623 00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:33,695 The music was sophisticated, 624 00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:35,958 marvelous, gamelan orchestras, 625 00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:37,960 disciplined dancers, 626 00:27:38,004 --> 00:27:39,048 wonderful food. 627 00:27:39,092 --> 00:27:40,528 It was paradise, actually. 628 00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:42,791 [ Music playing ] 629 00:27:42,835 --> 00:27:45,533 PAULA: When he went to the Far East, 630 00:27:45,576 --> 00:27:49,319 he saw this unbelievably strong light, 631 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:52,279 and he understood the line, 632 00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,237 the black line. 633 00:27:54,281 --> 00:27:57,284 [ Music playing ] 634 00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:03,986 AL: I have discovered that I think in line so vividly 635 00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:08,164 that when I paint, I'm thinking of drawing. 636 00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:10,950 I mean, it's not accidental that the great graphic artists 637 00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:12,386 come from the Far East -- 638 00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:13,735 Japan, China, 639 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,476 they're all graphic artists. 640 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,392 And in those countries, the sun bleaches the color out, 641 00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:20,742 so that leaves everything in line. 642 00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:22,962 It's all light and shadow, 643 00:28:23,005 --> 00:28:26,226 and the shadow is pure as black and white. 644 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:27,575 MAN: I know he admires 645 00:28:27,618 --> 00:28:30,230 the great Japanese woodblock artists 646 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:31,666 who were also masters of line, 647 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,363 people like Utamaro. 648 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,104 But Utamaro, for instance, wasn't really interested 649 00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:36,453 in making portraits of people. 650 00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:38,325 His were kind of idealized visions 651 00:28:38,368 --> 00:28:40,936 of beautiful women. 652 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,503 I was running out of money then. 653 00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:43,547 I had-- well, running out. 654 00:28:43,591 --> 00:28:45,549 I didn't have any when I started. 655 00:28:45,593 --> 00:28:48,378 But I didn't know how I was gonna get off the island. 656 00:28:48,422 --> 00:28:50,685 I had been there for about a year, 657 00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:53,993 and Chaplin arrived with his brother Sydney. 658 00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:55,734 Charlie Chaplin. 659 00:28:55,777 --> 00:29:01,087 And I had drawn him before in his earlier movie for Pathé. 660 00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:04,220 Well, he bought a lot of watercolors of mine, 661 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:08,747 which managed to pay my fare back to the United States. 662 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:11,880 I don't know how I would've gotten back without that. 663 00:29:11,924 --> 00:29:15,492 WOMAN: ♪ Nothin' but blue skies♪ 664 00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:18,757 ♪ From now on♪ 665 00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:25,502 Al's strength 666 00:29:25,546 --> 00:29:27,156 came early on when he went to Bali, 667 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,507 and he found this floodlight of sun, 668 00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,248 and I don't think he could capture it again 669 00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:33,728 until he came to the theater. 670 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:35,686 The theater is after-- totally artificial. 671 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:39,038 I mean, the light comes up from the klieg lights, 672 00:29:39,081 --> 00:29:41,475 and the footlights, and the spotlights, 673 00:29:41,518 --> 00:29:43,303 and there's nothing natural at all. 674 00:29:43,346 --> 00:29:45,522 In fact, he has said to me, and I say he's said 675 00:29:45,566 --> 00:29:47,568 to other people that nature is really terrific, 676 00:29:47,611 --> 00:29:48,917 but he wouldn't wanna live there. 677 00:29:48,961 --> 00:29:51,964 [ Music playing ] 678 00:29:55,445 --> 00:29:57,056 Daumier is-- if you think of him 679 00:29:57,099 --> 00:29:58,840 as sort of the quintessential Parisian caricaturist 680 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:00,581 of the 19th century, 681 00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:03,105 was an artist who's primarily concerned with realism, 682 00:30:03,149 --> 00:30:04,541 social protests, 683 00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:05,847 and I think that Al Hirschfeld's work, 684 00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:07,414 not as a tool of social protest, 685 00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:08,937 but his way of drawing our attention 686 00:30:08,981 --> 00:30:10,417 to the remarkable 687 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,332 and distinctive personalities of our time 688 00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:15,596 and fixing them in some highly stylized form, 689 00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:16,597 that enables us 690 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,295 to remember them forever. 691 00:30:19,339 --> 00:30:21,950 You think of Hirschfeld as being one of the very small 692 00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:23,125 and happy band, 693 00:30:23,169 --> 00:30:24,648 there's David Levine, 694 00:30:24,692 --> 00:30:27,129 there's Ronald Searle in England, 695 00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:30,524 to some degree Ralph Steadman, in a much, much darker vein. 696 00:30:30,567 --> 00:30:32,787 There's Covarrubias 697 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,442 in the beginning of the century of the-- in the '20s and '30s. 698 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:38,793 I suspect that the kind of key moment for Hirschfeld 699 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:43,189 was when he saw Covarrubias' caricatures forVanity Fair, 700 00:30:43,232 --> 00:30:45,887 and saw the caricature didn't just have to be a kind of crude 701 00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:47,758 knockabout political humor, 702 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:49,456 but could be something that was immensely 703 00:30:49,499 --> 00:30:51,545 stylish and advanced. 704 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:54,113 So I think that Covarrubias is probably the kind of 705 00:30:54,156 --> 00:30:55,592 the ghost in the machine, 706 00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:59,335 the presiding spirit of Hirschfeld's work. 707 00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:01,250 AL: Well, Covarrubias and I had-- 708 00:31:01,294 --> 00:31:04,253 at one point, shared a studio together, 709 00:31:04,297 --> 00:31:06,908 and he was certainly a great influence on me. 710 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:09,389 And then later there was Johnny Held. 711 00:31:09,432 --> 00:31:11,913 He was the first one to use the thin line, 712 00:31:11,957 --> 00:31:14,524 actually, he and Laurence Fellows. 713 00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:18,877 Some other artists out there were Al Frueh, Sam Norkin, 714 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,574 who imitated me. 715 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:22,141 [ Laughing ] 716 00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,577 No. 717 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,971 My work is not in Sardi's Restaurant. 718 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,453 MAN: Well, I think Al really comes out 719 00:31:30,497 --> 00:31:35,458 of sort of two sources, one is Aubrey Beardsley. 720 00:31:35,502 --> 00:31:37,765 Aubrey Beardsley was a great Edwardian artist. 721 00:31:37,808 --> 00:31:40,028 The other, really, is Max Beerbohm. 722 00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:41,812 Max Beerbohm was a terrific caricaturist 723 00:31:41,856 --> 00:31:43,205 of the Victorian Era 724 00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:45,120 who lasted well into the '50s. 725 00:31:45,164 --> 00:31:47,209 He used to do things like "The Old Self 726 00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:49,820 Meets the Young Self", and he would have H.G. Wells 727 00:31:49,864 --> 00:31:52,606 in his 20s meeting H.G. Wells in his 60s, 728 00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,477 and the young H.G. Wells would say, 729 00:31:54,521 --> 00:31:57,306 "All gone according to plan, I see." 730 00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:59,569 You know, and Al would do the same thing, in a way, 731 00:31:59,613 --> 00:32:00,919 he'll take two people 732 00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:02,181 who look more or less alike 733 00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:04,574 and have them share the same eye, 734 00:32:04,618 --> 00:32:07,316 or he'll invent a position 735 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,623 for a character to be in that he or she 736 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:13,105 was never in, in order to show his design sense. 737 00:32:13,148 --> 00:32:16,151 [ Music playing ] 738 00:32:46,225 --> 00:32:49,228 [ Singing in foreign language ] 739 00:32:52,666 --> 00:32:53,972 DOLLY: When I met Al, 740 00:32:54,015 --> 00:32:56,191 I said, "I don't know who did it." 741 00:32:56,235 --> 00:33:00,239 But I saw a wonderful drawing of Chaplin. 742 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,241 I think it was in The New Yorker. 743 00:33:02,284 --> 00:33:04,547 "It was in The Times," he said. 744 00:33:04,591 --> 00:33:05,896 "And I did it." 745 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:07,594 Well, we were enchanted with each other 746 00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:09,117 when we first met, yes. 747 00:33:09,161 --> 00:33:11,902 She was an extremely well-known actress in Europe. 748 00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:13,469 She was a big star in Europe. 749 00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:16,516 [ Music playing ] 750 00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:21,912 AL: She made "Broken Blossoms" in London, 751 00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:24,393 which was a very popular movie here. 752 00:33:24,437 --> 00:33:26,134 DOLLY: He came to do a drawing of me 753 00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:28,658 while I was doing "Summer Stock." 754 00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:31,226 AL: She was doing a play called "Her Cardboard Lover." 755 00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:33,837 I went backstage, which I rarely do. 756 00:33:33,881 --> 00:33:37,624 I met her, and I invited her to have a coffee. 757 00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:41,019 Dolly and I decided to get married, 758 00:33:41,062 --> 00:33:43,673 and we were on our way down to the city hall 759 00:33:43,717 --> 00:33:45,762 to get a license, 760 00:33:45,806 --> 00:33:48,026 and it occurred to me on the way down, 761 00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:50,158 I said to Dolly, 762 00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:54,902 "I'm not sure that I am divorced, you know." 763 00:33:54,945 --> 00:33:56,773 She said, "Well, you better find out, you know." 764 00:33:56,817 --> 00:33:59,254 So, we got out of the cab, 765 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:01,735 I phoned my ex-wife, 766 00:34:01,778 --> 00:34:04,303 and I said, "Flo, are we divorced?" 767 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:06,087 And she said, "No." 768 00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:08,829 I said, "Well, I'm on my way to get a marriage license." 769 00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:11,310 She said, "Well, better get a divorce first." 770 00:34:11,353 --> 00:34:13,747 So, that was that. 771 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:20,058 Well, I met Dolly and Al because we were neighbors. 772 00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:23,713 I have a house, three houses up from them, 773 00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:26,368 and I always thought of Dolly 774 00:34:26,412 --> 00:34:29,154 as a friend of my mother's generation, 775 00:34:29,197 --> 00:34:30,807 of my mother's world, 776 00:34:30,851 --> 00:34:32,287 being German, 777 00:34:32,331 --> 00:34:35,638 being a famous, famous performer in Germany. 778 00:34:35,682 --> 00:34:38,598 Dolly was already a star long before Dietrich was, 779 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,991 although Dietrich wouldn't like to admit that. 780 00:34:41,035 --> 00:34:43,255 My mother never understood Dolly. 781 00:34:43,298 --> 00:34:46,562 But then that's easy to understand. 782 00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:51,611 Dietrich never could understand good people. 783 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:59,923 Dolly fulfilled the function that great wives sometimes do 784 00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:01,360 with their husbands. 785 00:35:01,403 --> 00:35:03,797 She made it possible for him to concentrate 786 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,973 entirely on what he was doing 787 00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:07,888 all day long in that barber's chair 788 00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:09,846 that he worked in upstairs and had-- 789 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:11,239 had nothing to do 790 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:12,501 with the running of the household, 791 00:35:12,545 --> 00:35:14,024 and so on and so forth. 792 00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:16,418 Dolly took care of all of those measures. 793 00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:18,986 AL: Dolly you wanna come here, take a look at this, will you? 794 00:35:19,029 --> 00:35:20,335 Anything I left out or... 795 00:35:20,379 --> 00:35:23,077 DOLLY: I miss... just a shade. 796 00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:24,165 Where? Here? 797 00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:26,341 Mm-hmm, altogether on her... 798 00:35:28,952 --> 00:35:30,040 dress. 799 00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:34,001 No? 800 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:35,133 Yeah. 801 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,180 Except she wears white, that's so difficult to do, 802 00:35:39,224 --> 00:35:41,139 I could... yeah. 803 00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:43,402 I have her approval because I have a tendency 804 00:35:43,445 --> 00:35:46,448 to go overboard a lot and... 805 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:49,364 she straightens me out every now and then, 806 00:35:49,408 --> 00:35:51,540 and tells me what to-- 807 00:35:51,584 --> 00:35:52,976 this doesn't look like the person 808 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:54,717 or if it's too exaggerated 809 00:35:54,761 --> 00:35:57,459 or doesn't communicate. 810 00:35:57,503 --> 00:35:58,939 And that's very helpful. 811 00:36:00,897 --> 00:36:02,943 I listen to her very carefully. 812 00:36:02,986 --> 00:36:05,206 [ Chuckling ] 813 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:08,731 [ Music playing ] 814 00:36:08,775 --> 00:36:11,430 MAN: Zealous shows to remind us of our heritage 815 00:36:11,473 --> 00:36:13,997 and the fighting origin of this nation. 816 00:36:14,041 --> 00:36:15,912 The greatest production of them all, 817 00:36:15,956 --> 00:36:18,698 the audience is highly selective. 818 00:36:18,741 --> 00:36:20,656 WOMAN: ♪ We'll be singing♪ 819 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,615 ♪ Hallelujah♪ 820 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:26,662 ♪ Marching through Berlin♪ 821 00:36:26,706 --> 00:36:28,621 ♪ We'll be singing♪ 822 00:36:28,664 --> 00:36:30,666 ♪ Hallelujah♪ 823 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:34,583 ♪ Marching through Berlin♪ 824 00:36:34,627 --> 00:36:36,846 ♪ Marching through... ♪ 825 00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:39,893 ♪ Berlin...♪ 826 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:45,420 [ Crowd cheering ] 827 00:36:50,425 --> 00:36:53,428 [ Music playing ] 828 00:36:56,823 --> 00:36:59,869 ALL: ♪ There is nothing like a dame♪ 829 00:36:59,913 --> 00:37:03,699 ♪ Nothing in the world♪ 830 00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:05,875 ARTHUR: The theater was throbbing 831 00:37:05,919 --> 00:37:07,703 with glamour and excitement 832 00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:09,183 every night of the week, 833 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,273 there was a opening of a musical 834 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:13,970 or a play by the-- 835 00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:16,234 by the cream of the cream. 836 00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:19,280 Rodgers and Hammerstein, Cole Porter, 837 00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:21,108 they were all there, 838 00:37:21,151 --> 00:37:22,370 there was no page, 839 00:37:22,414 --> 00:37:24,590 no drama page anywhere 840 00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:27,245 that sparkled the way ours did. 841 00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:32,685 This was the time of Katharine Cornell, 842 00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:35,165 Ethel Merman, 843 00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:37,342 Helen Hayes, 844 00:37:37,385 --> 00:37:40,475 of course, a Lynn Fontanne 845 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:41,781 who prided herself 846 00:37:41,824 --> 00:37:45,088 on this glorious swan's neck 847 00:37:45,132 --> 00:37:47,134 was delighted when Al 848 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,702 would draw the neck 849 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:53,009 and make it as long as it could be, 850 00:37:53,053 --> 00:37:59,189 'cause Al sometimes did offend an actor, 851 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:01,714 and actors of-- are, 852 00:38:01,757 --> 00:38:04,456 you know, they're-- some of them are primadonnas, 853 00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:07,154 and they would complain and say they wouldn't go on, 854 00:38:07,197 --> 00:38:10,157 there were histrionics and tears, 855 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,202 and this would be conveyed 856 00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:14,727 by the producers and the theater owners 857 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:17,295 to the publisher, and it stopped there. 858 00:38:17,338 --> 00:38:22,256 AL: I had one difficult period, I made a drawing of a dancer, 859 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,171 I forget his name, it seemed to me it'd be 860 00:38:24,214 --> 00:38:25,912 a reasonable drawing, 861 00:38:25,955 --> 00:38:27,957 very realistic, and they had some 862 00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:30,220 kind of gaiety to it, and movement, 863 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,832 and... 864 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,094 but he took umbrage at it 865 00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:36,314 and threatened to leave the show, 866 00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:37,793 now the show was threatening 867 00:38:37,837 --> 00:38:39,491 to pull all our advertising out, 868 00:38:39,534 --> 00:38:41,188 of theTimes. 869 00:38:41,231 --> 00:38:45,627 He just raised hell about that drawing, 870 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:48,151 and... but I must say The Times 871 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:49,675 paid no attention to it. 872 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,852 I feel with age 873 00:38:52,895 --> 00:38:56,159 instead of becoming more of a curmudgeon 874 00:38:56,203 --> 00:38:57,987 he became more benign. 875 00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:00,250 AL: As a matter of fact, it's very difficult to offend 876 00:39:00,294 --> 00:39:02,470 anybody anymore, 877 00:39:02,514 --> 00:39:04,211 it's almost impossible. 878 00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:08,084 I did a drawing of Merrick, producer, David Merrick. 879 00:39:08,128 --> 00:39:11,392 And not one of my favorite characters, 880 00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:15,178 and I had him as Santa Claus, 881 00:39:15,222 --> 00:39:17,964 snaffletooth with a bell, book, and candle, 882 00:39:18,007 --> 00:39:20,967 and I made it about as vicious as I could, 883 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:25,972 and Merrick bought the drawing and used it as a Christmas card. 884 00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:27,669 So, 885 00:39:27,713 --> 00:39:31,412 the days of winding up in the clink are over. 886 00:39:31,456 --> 00:39:33,719 Brooks Atkinson 887 00:39:33,762 --> 00:39:35,677 was the conscience 888 00:39:35,721 --> 00:39:37,723 of our theatrical times, 889 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,552 and he wasn't going to let anyone 890 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:44,294 change Al's tone or his art. 891 00:39:44,338 --> 00:39:47,036 Atkinson had great respect and regard for my drawings, 892 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,777 as I did for his writing, 893 00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:50,953 it would never occur to me to tell him how to write, 894 00:39:50,997 --> 00:39:53,434 and it never occurred to him to tell me how to draw. 895 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:56,306 MAN: Al went to the-- to the rehearsals 896 00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:57,917 to do his drawings, 897 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,963 and, of course, Brooks went on the opening night. 898 00:40:01,007 --> 00:40:02,791 He was totally on his own. 899 00:40:02,835 --> 00:40:03,792 Hey, Morton. 900 00:40:03,836 --> 00:40:05,359 Are we making a change? 901 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:07,361 Yes, Dick and Oscar wanna move this song 902 00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:08,928 out of the first act. 903 00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:11,757 Now you're going to sing it to your sister 904 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759 just before our wedding. 905 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:16,675 He did the drawings before the reviews appeared. 906 00:40:16,718 --> 00:40:18,241 So he never knew 907 00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:21,462 what Brooks Atkinson was going to write. 908 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,944 ♪ I want you♪ 909 00:40:24,987 --> 00:40:27,816 ♪ You know who♪ 910 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:30,776 People say to me, "Well, you've seen so many shows, 911 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:33,779 can't you tell whether it's going to be a hit or not?" 912 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:35,171 And I always tell them no, 913 00:40:35,215 --> 00:40:36,912 and I have a classic story on that, 914 00:40:36,956 --> 00:40:41,526 a show opened in New Haven, a thing called "Away We Go." 915 00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:43,702 And after the show, 916 00:40:43,745 --> 00:40:45,704 Lawrence Langner, who was the co-producer, 917 00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,228 he was at the Theater Guild, 918 00:40:48,271 --> 00:40:49,838 asked me to meet him for a-- 919 00:40:49,882 --> 00:40:51,623 have a cup of coffee with him in Taft's Hotel-- 920 00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:53,755 and so there was Billy Rose 921 00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:55,061 and Mike Todd together, 922 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:57,150 and then Lawrence Langner said, 923 00:40:57,193 --> 00:40:59,544 "Now, I ask you, fellas." 924 00:40:59,587 --> 00:41:03,156 He's -- to level with me, he said, "I'm tone deaf. 925 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,245 I don't know anything about musicals." 926 00:41:05,288 --> 00:41:08,074 And this is absolutely bankrupting 927 00:41:08,117 --> 00:41:09,510 the Theater Guild, 928 00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:11,033 and "What do you fellas think of it?" 929 00:41:11,077 --> 00:41:13,383 "Do you think it has a chance?" you know. 930 00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:17,257 There was a long quiet descended on us, 931 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:21,304 and Mike Todd said, "You want the truth, Lawrence?" 932 00:41:21,348 --> 00:41:22,436 He said, "Yes." 933 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,178 He said, "Well, if it was my show, 934 00:41:25,221 --> 00:41:27,310 I would close it, 935 00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,399 take your lumps, forget about it, 936 00:41:29,443 --> 00:41:31,271 you know, just close it, don't open in Boston, 937 00:41:31,314 --> 00:41:33,186 you don't have a chance." 938 00:41:33,229 --> 00:41:34,753 And Billy said, "Now, wait a minute, 939 00:41:34,796 --> 00:41:37,625 there's a couple tunes in there that are not bad. 940 00:41:37,669 --> 00:41:38,626 I would open it. 941 00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:40,323 Rearrange the thing and so on." 942 00:41:40,367 --> 00:41:41,934 I came back toThe Times 943 00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:43,588 and told Brooks that I didn't think it might be-- 944 00:41:43,631 --> 00:41:45,241 it might not come in, you know, 945 00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:47,592 it looked like it was going to close in New Haven. 946 00:41:47,635 --> 00:41:51,291 And Ziegfeld Folly was opening the same week, 947 00:41:51,334 --> 00:41:52,901 and I went up to Boston 948 00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:56,209 the following day to do the Follies, 949 00:41:56,252 --> 00:41:58,516 and I thought that was terrible, it was just awful, 950 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,518 and on my way out, 951 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,085 the press agent for the guild 952 00:42:03,129 --> 00:42:05,914 said, "Change the title to 'Oklahoma'." 953 00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:07,960 He said then, "That's not bad." 954 00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:09,135 Now, we go to that opening 955 00:42:09,178 --> 00:42:11,224 and the first song in the show 956 00:42:11,267 --> 00:42:12,965 was the song that ended the first act 957 00:42:13,008 --> 00:42:14,270 and now started it, 958 00:42:14,314 --> 00:42:17,099 it was, "Oh, What a Beautiful Morning." 959 00:42:17,143 --> 00:42:21,060 And you realized that you're in the presence of a-- of a hit, 960 00:42:21,103 --> 00:42:23,323 it's unbelievable with a-- 961 00:42:23,366 --> 00:42:26,239 it's that kind of trenched insanity 962 00:42:26,282 --> 00:42:27,588 that takes place, 963 00:42:27,632 --> 00:42:28,807 no one can predict it, 964 00:42:28,850 --> 00:42:30,156 you know, no one. 965 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:34,943 ♪ Everything's going my way♪ 966 00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:36,205 AL: I remember sitting up 967 00:42:36,249 --> 00:42:37,685 until about 3:00 in the morning 968 00:42:37,729 --> 00:42:40,079 with Moss Hart, trying to talk him out 969 00:42:40,122 --> 00:42:43,125 of doing "My Fair Lady". 970 00:42:43,169 --> 00:42:44,866 I said, "You must be out of your head 971 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:49,305 and try to do "Pygmalion", which is a marvelous story, 972 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:52,613 and they just finished the movie with Wendy Hiller, 973 00:42:52,657 --> 00:42:54,310 great movie... 974 00:42:54,354 --> 00:42:56,225 I said, "How are you going to improve on that 975 00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:58,140 by having somebody do a dance or sing a song? 976 00:42:58,184 --> 00:42:59,925 I mean, it's so crazy." 977 00:42:59,968 --> 00:43:01,491 And he said, "Well, I don't know. 978 00:43:01,535 --> 00:43:05,191 I got a point of view about it, and-- so that was that, 979 00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:07,019 now we go to that opening, 980 00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:09,978 and I said to Dolly, my wife, 981 00:43:10,022 --> 00:43:11,197 "You know, if you really believe in something, 982 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:12,677 in a musical, 983 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,506 you can write a musical about an ashtray, you know." 984 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,639 Playwrights are made in heaven, 985 00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:20,249 I mean, you cannot-- 986 00:43:20,293 --> 00:43:22,034 you cannot just say, "I'm gonna write a play." 987 00:43:22,077 --> 00:43:24,863 You can't drop a stitch when you're having a good play. 988 00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:28,127 Once the people go like this, forget it, you've lost them. 989 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:30,608 AL: How on earth I got involved in creating a play 990 00:43:30,651 --> 00:43:34,263 is beyond any form of rational thinking. 991 00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:37,397 True, my collaborators were the best in the business. 992 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,530 I wrote a play with S.J. Perelman, 993 00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:42,707 Vernon Duke did the music, 994 00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:45,057 Ogden Nash wrote the lyrics, 995 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,929 Boris Aronson designed the sets, 996 00:43:47,973 --> 00:43:49,104 disaster, 997 00:43:49,148 --> 00:43:50,845 absolute disaster. 998 00:43:52,542 --> 00:43:54,544 The show folded in Philadelphia, 999 00:43:54,588 --> 00:43:56,590 and we had to leave the country, 1000 00:43:56,634 --> 00:44:00,899 that's how S.J. Perelman and I happen to go around the world. 1001 00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:03,162 We came back about nine months later, 1002 00:44:03,205 --> 00:44:06,121 and all was forgiven by then. 1003 00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:08,123 Al should never try to write a play, 1004 00:44:08,167 --> 00:44:09,951 with all due respect, 1005 00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:12,693 you know, shoemaker should stick to his last, 1006 00:44:12,737 --> 00:44:15,261 everybody has to stick to what they can do best. 1007 00:44:15,304 --> 00:44:17,698 Next to a sonnet, it's the most difficult art form 1008 00:44:17,742 --> 00:44:19,395 to write a good play. 1009 00:44:19,439 --> 00:44:22,268 PHILIP: Almost any image we have of S.J. Perelman 1010 00:44:22,311 --> 00:44:24,270 the humorist and writer 1011 00:44:24,313 --> 00:44:29,710 comes from caricatures that Al has done of him. 1012 00:44:29,754 --> 00:44:32,147 You get him in all kinds of moods, 1013 00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,847 the observation is fabulous. 1014 00:44:37,762 --> 00:44:41,940 I think he was a kind of balance wheel for Syd. 1015 00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:44,159 Sid would go into depression, 1016 00:44:44,203 --> 00:44:46,858 and then he would become very excited, 1017 00:44:46,901 --> 00:44:50,775 and I've never seen Al go very far off-course, 1018 00:44:50,818 --> 00:44:53,038 he's a pretty steady pilot. 1019 00:44:53,081 --> 00:44:54,692 [ Indistinct chatter ] 1020 00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:58,260 When I first joined the drama department, 1021 00:44:58,304 --> 00:45:02,308 Al always was on top of page one of the drama section. 1022 00:45:02,351 --> 00:45:04,745 We always thought our competitors 1023 00:45:04,789 --> 00:45:06,486 a little further downtown 1024 00:45:06,529 --> 00:45:08,836 at theHerald Tribune were eating their hearts out 1025 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,664 because we had Al. 1026 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:11,883 Al was ours. 1027 00:45:11,926 --> 00:45:13,232 [ Music playing ] 1028 00:45:13,275 --> 00:45:14,407 [ Car honking ] 1029 00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:16,104 WOMAN: Brooke's acting again. 1030 00:45:16,148 --> 00:45:17,932 She's a critic, for heaven's sakes. 1031 00:45:17,976 --> 00:45:20,979 MAN: Hirschfeld was really a-- 1032 00:45:21,022 --> 00:45:24,330 he always felt he stood side by side with us, 1033 00:45:24,373 --> 00:45:26,158 on the other side of the footlights. 1034 00:45:26,201 --> 00:45:28,421 -Yes? -MAN: Five minutes, please. 1035 00:45:28,464 --> 00:45:30,292 Thank you. 1036 00:45:30,336 --> 00:45:31,946 Dim the curtain lights. 1037 00:45:34,819 --> 00:45:36,037 Curtain. 1038 00:45:37,909 --> 00:45:40,912 [ Applause ] 1039 00:45:48,093 --> 00:45:51,096 [ Music playing ] 1040 00:45:52,532 --> 00:45:55,665 AL: I made a lot of home movies, 1041 00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:59,800 and I made a film in Siam 1042 00:45:59,844 --> 00:46:02,194 of a Balinese dancer, 1043 00:46:02,237 --> 00:46:05,066 and the Princess Poon 1044 00:46:05,110 --> 00:46:06,459 allowed me to photograph 1045 00:46:06,502 --> 00:46:09,375 two of the royal dancers. 1046 00:46:09,418 --> 00:46:11,986 They were sewn into the costumes, 1047 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,380 and I thought this would be very helpful 1048 00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:16,643 to Rodgers and Hammerstein, 1049 00:46:16,686 --> 00:46:18,819 I know were doing a musical about Siam, 1050 00:46:18,863 --> 00:46:22,649 and I called Dick Rogers, told him about it, 1051 00:46:22,692 --> 00:46:25,521 and both Rodgers and Hammerstein came here 1052 00:46:25,565 --> 00:46:27,654 with a set designer, 1053 00:46:27,697 --> 00:46:30,222 and I ran the film off for them, 1054 00:46:30,265 --> 00:46:31,919 and they were very grateful for it, 1055 00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:35,053 because I don't think it's ever been photographed before. 1056 00:46:35,096 --> 00:46:38,099 [ Music playing ] 1057 00:46:44,497 --> 00:46:46,499 You stay there. I wanna see what happens 1058 00:46:46,542 --> 00:46:47,892 when you kneel down 1059 00:46:47,935 --> 00:46:49,719 and look under Mrs. Anders' skirt. 1060 00:46:49,763 --> 00:46:51,199 Take it from your bow to the king. 1061 00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:54,202 Yeah, but look up-- look up. You're interested 1062 00:46:54,246 --> 00:46:58,163 in what's going on under that big hoopskirt, good. 1063 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:02,820 [ Music playing ] 1064 00:47:08,129 --> 00:47:10,218 ♪ When you see a Joe♪ 1065 00:47:10,262 --> 00:47:12,655 ♪ Saving half of his dough♪ 1066 00:47:12,699 --> 00:47:17,312 ♪ You can bet, they'll be minkin' it for some doll.♪ 1067 00:47:17,356 --> 00:47:19,314 She makes me nervous to see her sitting there 1068 00:47:19,358 --> 00:47:21,316 sucking on them pigtails. 1069 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,796 WOMAN: Braids. 1070 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,232 Furthermore, there's no use our discussing 1071 00:47:24,276 --> 00:47:25,755 a certain party. 1072 00:47:34,503 --> 00:47:37,332 I ask you, sir, what sort of word is that? 1073 00:47:37,376 --> 00:47:38,943 MAN: ♪ It's "aoow"♪ 1074 00:47:38,986 --> 00:47:41,684 ♪ And "gaarn" that keep her in her place♪ 1075 00:47:41,728 --> 00:47:43,077 ♪ Not her wretched clothes♪ 1076 00:47:43,121 --> 00:47:44,687 ♪ And dirty face♪ 1077 00:47:44,731 --> 00:47:47,734 [ Music playing ] 1078 00:47:51,956 --> 00:47:53,044 MAN: ♪ Boy, boy♪ 1079 00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:54,915 ♪ Crazy boy♪ 1080 00:47:54,959 --> 00:47:57,352 ♪ Stay loose, boy♪ 1081 00:47:57,396 --> 00:48:00,312 ♪ Breeze it, buzz it, easy does it♪ 1082 00:48:00,355 --> 00:48:02,749 ♪ Turn off the juice, boy♪ 1083 00:48:03,968 --> 00:48:06,666 Oh, that's-- oh, that's grandpa. 1084 00:48:06,709 --> 00:48:08,668 -Grandpa? -That's my grandpa. 1085 00:48:08,711 --> 00:48:09,930 Grandpa drew that, 1086 00:48:09,974 --> 00:48:12,498 see that's grandpa's name, 1087 00:48:12,541 --> 00:48:15,936 and that's Luciano Pavarotti. 1088 00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:18,286 And he puts mommy's name in here, 1089 00:48:18,330 --> 00:48:21,899 and grandpa's gonna tell you where it is, 1090 00:48:21,942 --> 00:48:23,074 but there it is. 1091 00:48:23,117 --> 00:48:24,989 -AL: That's right. -NINA: There, see. 1092 00:48:25,032 --> 00:48:27,165 N-I-N-A, 1093 00:48:27,208 --> 00:48:29,863 he's been putting my name in his drawing 1094 00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:32,213 ever since I was born. 1095 00:48:32,257 --> 00:48:35,608 AL: Well, it started off as a very innocent little gesture. 1096 00:48:35,651 --> 00:48:37,784 To herald her appearance on the Earth, 1097 00:48:37,827 --> 00:48:41,614 and I didn't realize that anybody knew about it, 1098 00:48:41,657 --> 00:48:44,747 and when I stopped after about two or three weeks, 1099 00:48:44,791 --> 00:48:46,140 letters came in, 1100 00:48:46,184 --> 00:48:47,794 and I discovered 1101 00:48:47,837 --> 00:48:51,058 in the engraving department at the New York Times, 1102 00:48:51,102 --> 00:48:53,800 they were betting on who could find the Ninas, 1103 00:48:53,843 --> 00:48:56,759 and then I got a letter that there ought to be some way 1104 00:48:56,803 --> 00:48:59,327 of identifying how many there are 1105 00:48:59,371 --> 00:49:00,894 in the drawing. 1106 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:04,637 So I put a number in after my signature. 1107 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,641 Sometimes when Al has an exhibition, 1108 00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:11,644 an entire family appears 1109 00:49:11,687 --> 00:49:16,997 from the smallest three-or-four year old, 1110 00:49:17,041 --> 00:49:19,086 to a great grandfather. 1111 00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:23,264 I like finding the Ninas because it's like a puzzle 1112 00:49:23,308 --> 00:49:24,744 inside of a painting. 1113 00:49:24,787 --> 00:49:25,745 So it's always a challenge. 1114 00:49:25,788 --> 00:49:27,051 [ Laughing ] 1115 00:49:27,094 --> 00:49:28,661 ♪ Nina, Nina, me, myself and I♪ 1116 00:49:28,704 --> 00:49:30,706 ♪ Oh, how you stick with us ♪ 1117 00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:35,015 ♪ Nina, Nina, can you tell us why you're so ubiquitous ♪ 1118 00:49:35,059 --> 00:49:38,627 ♪ It is likely you have friends in lofty places♪ 1119 00:49:40,629 --> 00:49:42,327 ♪ For I find your name adorning♪ 1120 00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:45,591 ♪ A famous faces♪ 1121 00:49:45,634 --> 00:49:47,723 ♪ That clothing and accessories their friendly...♪ 1122 00:49:47,767 --> 00:49:50,335 MAN: It's a signature, it's a gimmick, it doesn't-- 1123 00:49:50,378 --> 00:49:52,032 I don't feel one way or the other about it, 1124 00:49:52,076 --> 00:49:53,947 in fact, I think, if he had fewer Ninas, 1125 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:55,557 people would take him more seriously. 1126 00:49:55,601 --> 00:49:57,037 I think that's part of the game, 1127 00:49:57,081 --> 00:49:58,343 it's like a crossword puzzle 1128 00:49:58,386 --> 00:50:01,302 that people look forward to. 1129 00:50:01,346 --> 00:50:03,652 MAN: Oh, I think you could spot a Hirschfeld 1130 00:50:03,696 --> 00:50:05,306 a mile away, 1131 00:50:05,350 --> 00:50:07,961 and it isn't all just because of that Nina business 1132 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:11,225 that-- that's a diversion. 1133 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:12,966 WOMAN: One time 1134 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:17,144 Al put the name of Nina's best girlfriend 1135 00:50:17,188 --> 00:50:18,145 into the drawing, 1136 00:50:18,189 --> 00:50:19,755 and he got so many letters, 1137 00:50:19,799 --> 00:50:23,846 and congratulations, having had a second child. 1138 00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:25,152 But I can't stop it. 1139 00:50:25,196 --> 00:50:27,154 I don't know how to stop it, but I've tried, 1140 00:50:27,198 --> 00:50:29,374 and the mail comes in, 1141 00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:30,592 and people discover Ninas, 1142 00:50:30,636 --> 00:50:31,811 where there aren't any, you know, 1143 00:50:31,854 --> 00:50:33,204 I have to answer all that mail. 1144 00:50:33,247 --> 00:50:35,815 It's easier to put it in than leave it out. 1145 00:50:35,858 --> 00:50:37,425 Go to Grandpa, okay? 1146 00:50:37,469 --> 00:50:39,297 -Where's Grandpa? -He's in the kitchen 1147 00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:42,256 and ask for a little more apple juice. 1148 00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,519 I go back a long time, 1149 00:50:44,563 --> 00:50:47,522 you were three years old, 1150 00:50:47,566 --> 00:50:52,092 and I happened to play in London 1151 00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:54,573 with Yul Brynner in theLute Song, 1152 00:50:55,922 --> 00:50:59,404 and you didn't like the word "rehearsal", 1153 00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:02,798 it separated us, my darling, 1154 00:51:02,842 --> 00:51:04,974 but we caught up. 1155 00:51:05,018 --> 00:51:06,541 NINA: My parents were never home, 1156 00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:08,369 they were always out, and when they were home, 1157 00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:11,590 they'd have wonderful dinner parties. 1158 00:51:11,633 --> 00:51:17,770 Everybody from Laurence Olivier to Barbra Streisand... 1159 00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:19,946 Louis Jourdan walked up the stairs once, 1160 00:51:19,989 --> 00:51:21,948 and my best friend's name was Liza 1161 00:51:21,991 --> 00:51:23,993 in high school, and she fainted. 1162 00:51:26,518 --> 00:51:29,086 You know, just by being my father's daughter, 1163 00:51:29,129 --> 00:51:32,785 and all the opportunities that I feel I've had, 1164 00:51:32,828 --> 00:51:34,091 you know, I wanted to be an actress 1165 00:51:34,134 --> 00:51:35,614 at one point in my life. 1166 00:51:35,657 --> 00:51:39,400 DOLLY: And she was well on her way, but no. 1167 00:51:39,444 --> 00:51:42,708 Maybe her admiration for Al's work 1168 00:51:42,751 --> 00:51:44,362 was such... 1169 00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,408 unbelievable attraction. 1170 00:51:47,452 --> 00:51:49,671 NINA: But people used to come up to me, and they go, 1171 00:51:49,715 --> 00:51:51,325 "Oh, you're the Nina?" 1172 00:51:51,369 --> 00:51:54,154 And I'd go, "Yeah. Yeah." 1173 00:51:54,198 --> 00:51:57,201 [ Playing piano ] 1174 00:51:58,985 --> 00:52:00,291 DOLLY: No, I don't-- 1175 00:52:00,334 --> 00:52:03,294 I don't think it made Nina happy. 1176 00:52:03,337 --> 00:52:05,600 It's very, very difficult, 1177 00:52:05,644 --> 00:52:07,776 still is difficult at times. 1178 00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:09,735 The question that I try to avoid, 1179 00:52:09,778 --> 00:52:11,954 she doesn't like it, I don't think. 1180 00:52:11,998 --> 00:52:14,174 Because it's-- she's become a... 1181 00:52:16,568 --> 00:52:19,310 celebrity without having 1182 00:52:19,353 --> 00:52:21,399 done anything to accomplish it, you know what I mean? 1183 00:52:21,442 --> 00:52:23,227 People say, "Oh, you're the Nina?" 1184 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:24,837 And that's very tough to take, you know. 1185 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,187 She's been taking that now for 40 years, 1186 00:52:27,231 --> 00:52:29,233 and that's a-- 1187 00:52:29,276 --> 00:52:31,931 but there's no way to stop it. 1188 00:52:31,974 --> 00:52:33,324 NINA: It's actually 1189 00:52:33,367 --> 00:52:36,501 been the happiest times of my life, 1190 00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:39,982 because I have tried to do all kinds of things on my own, 1191 00:52:40,026 --> 00:52:42,550 and the only things I've ever really done 1192 00:52:42,594 --> 00:52:43,812 were have two children, 1193 00:52:43,856 --> 00:52:45,640 which is quite an accomplishment. 1194 00:52:45,684 --> 00:52:47,468 Every time I've tried to be independent, 1195 00:52:47,512 --> 00:52:50,732 I always wind up coming back here, 1196 00:52:50,776 --> 00:52:52,125 which is very odd. 1197 00:52:52,169 --> 00:52:54,736 Most people wanna be on their own no matter what, 1198 00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:56,999 and no matter where I go, 1199 00:52:57,043 --> 00:52:59,219 I always wind up coming back here. 1200 00:52:59,263 --> 00:53:02,048 I've been looking for my daddy all my life. 1201 00:53:02,091 --> 00:53:03,571 [ Laughing ] 1202 00:53:03,615 --> 00:53:05,225 I wish somebody could answer that for me. 1203 00:53:05,269 --> 00:53:08,228 [ Music playing ] 1204 00:53:08,272 --> 00:53:09,403 Why do I say that? 1205 00:53:09,447 --> 00:53:11,927 Because I've never met the right person. 1206 00:53:11,971 --> 00:53:13,625 Nobody's ever measured up. 1207 00:53:15,801 --> 00:53:18,195 I did-- I never married the right person. 1208 00:53:26,942 --> 00:53:28,335 ♪ Mr. Henkel♪ 1209 00:53:28,379 --> 00:53:30,685 ♪ This is Harvey Johnson♪ 1210 00:53:30,729 --> 00:53:32,426 ♪ Can I speak♪ 1211 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:33,949 ♪ To Penelope Ann?♪ 1212 00:53:33,993 --> 00:53:35,342 PENELOPE: ♪ Is it true about Kim?♪ 1213 00:53:35,386 --> 00:53:36,648 ♪ Penelope?♪ 1214 00:53:36,691 --> 00:53:38,040 PENELOPE: ♪ I just knew it somehow♪ 1215 00:53:38,084 --> 00:53:39,433 MAN: ♪ About the prom♪ 1216 00:53:39,477 --> 00:53:41,087 PENELOPE: ♪ I must call her right up♪ 1217 00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:43,176 ♪ I can't talk to you now!♪ 1218 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:46,135 Good girl. 1219 00:53:46,179 --> 00:53:49,487 [ Screaming ] 1220 00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:54,274 O, that this too too solid flesh would melt, thaw, 1221 00:53:54,318 --> 00:53:56,407 and resolve itself into a dew. 1222 00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,278 MAN: ♪ Whoa♪ 1223 00:53:58,322 --> 00:54:00,672 ♪ Lord♪ 1224 00:54:00,715 --> 00:54:04,241 ♪ I'm on my way♪ 1225 00:54:04,284 --> 00:54:07,766 CHOIR: ♪ I'm on my way♪ 1226 00:54:07,809 --> 00:54:11,944 ♪ To a Heavenly Lan'♪ 1227 00:54:13,337 --> 00:54:15,034 MAN: ♪ If I were a rich man♪ 1228 00:54:15,077 --> 00:54:16,949 ♪ You will boo, boo, boo, boo♪ 1229 00:54:16,992 --> 00:54:20,213 ♪ Will you voo, voo, voo, voo, voo, voo, voo, voo, voo, voom ♪ 1230 00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:23,956 ♪ All day long I'd vi , vi, vi, voom ♪ 1231 00:54:23,999 --> 00:54:26,567 ♪ If I were a wealthy man♪ 1232 00:54:30,528 --> 00:54:33,531 [ Thunder clapping ] 1233 00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:38,275 Everybody has to make jumps 1234 00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:39,885 when you come from one generation, 1235 00:54:39,928 --> 00:54:43,758 and he was moving into this generation, 1236 00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:46,021 even though it was several years already that the hippies 1237 00:54:46,065 --> 00:54:48,241 were all over the place around here, down the village, and-- 1238 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,635 CHOIR: ♪ The age of Aquarius♪ 1239 00:54:50,678 --> 00:54:56,031 ♪ The age of Aquarius♪ 1240 00:54:56,075 --> 00:55:01,559 ♪ Aquarius...♪ 1241 00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:06,303 ♪ Aquarius♪ 1242 00:55:06,346 --> 00:55:08,217 One trouble with Al's career 1243 00:55:08,261 --> 00:55:09,871 was that there was a period whenThe Times decided 1244 00:55:09,915 --> 00:55:11,351 to use photographs. 1245 00:55:11,395 --> 00:55:13,440 There wasn't this unbroken line. 1246 00:55:13,484 --> 00:55:14,920 I remember Sid Perelman, 1247 00:55:14,963 --> 00:55:17,270 who was a great friend of Al Hirschfeld... 1248 00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:19,316 Al did a lot of drawings for Sid's humorous books, 1249 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:21,056 and he said, "Can't we do something? 1250 00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,363 I mean, Al isn't appearing in The Times every week." 1251 00:55:23,407 --> 00:55:25,365 Of course, he was right. 1252 00:55:25,409 --> 00:55:27,062 I think because people didn't see his drawings 1253 00:55:27,106 --> 00:55:28,716 for a while, they sort of lost touch 1254 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,458 with what Al is and what he can do. 1255 00:55:31,502 --> 00:55:33,721 We used to get letters by the hundreds where, 1256 00:55:33,765 --> 00:55:35,332 "What happened to Al Hirschfeld?" 1257 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:39,727 Because, you know, for a while, he was fired from the job. 1258 00:55:39,771 --> 00:55:41,294 And Mr. Atkins is saying, 1259 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:42,817 "I mean, what is wrong with him? 1260 00:55:42,861 --> 00:55:45,254 Where's the-- there--? 1261 00:55:45,298 --> 00:55:47,387 He lost his senses or something." 1262 00:55:47,431 --> 00:55:50,303 [ Percussion music ] 1263 00:55:53,567 --> 00:55:55,700 I really wasn't fired. 1264 00:55:55,743 --> 00:55:56,962 I don't know what the reason was, 1265 00:55:57,005 --> 00:55:58,616 I don't-- 1266 00:55:58,659 --> 00:56:02,576 I think a lot of people wrote in and wanted to see the drawings 1267 00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:05,187 and so they... 1268 00:56:06,493 --> 00:56:09,670 started asking me to do drawings again. 1269 00:56:09,714 --> 00:56:11,759 I never had any... 1270 00:56:11,803 --> 00:56:13,674 iron-bound contract with The Times, 1271 00:56:13,718 --> 00:56:17,461 and-- about two years ago, they asked me to sign a contract, 1272 00:56:17,504 --> 00:56:18,853 and I said, "You must be kidding. 1273 00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:20,768 I mean, after all these years?" 1274 00:56:20,812 --> 00:56:23,510 After 70 years, they wanted a contract, 1275 00:56:23,554 --> 00:56:25,817 and I signed it last year. 1276 00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:27,296 It's kind of insanity. 1277 00:56:29,473 --> 00:56:31,953 [ Car honks ] 1278 00:56:31,997 --> 00:56:34,216 AL: Way back, some 30 years ago, 1279 00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:37,872 my gallery was the Hammer Gallery on 57th Street, 1280 00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:40,962 one of the artists was Ludwig Bemelmans. 1281 00:56:41,006 --> 00:56:43,965 When either of us exhibited our work there, 1282 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:46,577 it was as if we were stalking horses, 1283 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:49,667 we would attract crowds to come into the gallery, 1284 00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:52,583 and then the gallery would push the expensive pictures. 1285 00:56:52,626 --> 00:56:54,280 Ours were selling for hundreds, 1286 00:56:54,323 --> 00:56:58,327 the others were selling for hundreds of thousands. 1287 00:56:58,371 --> 00:57:00,199 A change was in order. 1288 00:57:02,114 --> 00:57:03,594 Well, almost 20 years ago, 1289 00:57:03,637 --> 00:57:05,160 he came to the gallery, 1290 00:57:05,204 --> 00:57:08,250 and he saw this photograph, 1291 00:57:08,294 --> 00:57:10,688 and I said "Yes, that's me. I fly airplanes." 1292 00:57:10,731 --> 00:57:12,951 He went like this, and he said, 1293 00:57:12,994 --> 00:57:14,996 "Any woman who can fly an airplane 1294 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,737 can sell my art." 1295 00:57:16,781 --> 00:57:20,045 He's done 10-- perhaps 12,000 drawings. 1296 00:57:20,088 --> 00:57:22,482 Almost every museum in this country 1297 00:57:22,526 --> 00:57:25,485 and around the world has a Hirschfeld. 1298 00:57:25,529 --> 00:57:27,835 Even the United States Postal Service 1299 00:57:27,879 --> 00:57:31,796 has issued postage stamps of Hirschfeld drawings. 1300 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:36,496 AL: I did the comedians, and last year I did... 1301 00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:38,193 silent movie stars. 1302 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,068 DOLLY: It's completely unpredictable, 1303 00:57:43,111 --> 00:57:46,027 the way Al creates. 1304 00:57:46,071 --> 00:57:50,858 And it is almost impossible to describe a drawing 1305 00:57:50,902 --> 00:57:52,469 can be ready in... 1306 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,298 in a couple of hours. 1307 00:57:56,342 --> 00:58:00,389 At times it happens that he takes three days 1308 00:58:00,433 --> 00:58:02,653 in desperation. 1309 00:58:02,696 --> 00:58:06,918 He cannot get the essence of a human being 1310 00:58:06,961 --> 00:58:10,138 that he has in his head. 1311 00:58:10,182 --> 00:58:12,880 Erase this whole thing. 1312 00:58:12,924 --> 00:58:17,145 DOLLY: He would tear it up because it isn't right. 1313 00:58:17,189 --> 00:58:19,539 AL: I had a terrible time with Gary Moore. 1314 00:58:19,583 --> 00:58:21,889 Took the drawing downstairs and showed it to Dolly, 1315 00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:23,108 and I said, "Who is that?" 1316 00:58:23,151 --> 00:58:24,718 She said Buster Keaton. 1317 00:58:24,762 --> 00:58:28,200 Well, he came up, and I worked at this thing, 1318 00:58:28,243 --> 00:58:29,897 and I must have made a thousand-- 1319 00:58:29,941 --> 00:58:32,378 I was about to phone and say, "Listen, I can't do it." 1320 00:58:32,421 --> 00:58:34,162 And then years later, I met Gary Moore, 1321 00:58:34,206 --> 00:58:36,425 I told him the difficulty I had with him, 1322 00:58:36,469 --> 00:58:37,731 and he said, "That's very odd." 1323 00:58:37,775 --> 00:58:39,559 He said, "Because as a young man, 1324 00:58:39,603 --> 00:58:42,127 I used to do Buster Keaton imitations." 1325 00:58:43,737 --> 00:58:46,958 You live long enough, everything happens, you know. 1326 00:58:47,001 --> 00:58:49,656 The problem is to avoid stereotypes, 1327 00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:53,573 not to get stuck, bored, or mentally constipated. 1328 00:58:53,617 --> 00:58:55,923 Allen Funt of TV's Candid Camera 1329 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:59,144 bitterly complained about my drawing of him, 1330 00:58:59,187 --> 00:59:02,234 and though I did another, as fate would have it, 1331 00:59:02,277 --> 00:59:04,802 the first one he disliked got published. 1332 00:59:04,845 --> 00:59:07,587 And he said that I made him look like an ape 1333 00:59:07,631 --> 00:59:10,111 in that original drawing, 1334 00:59:10,155 --> 00:59:14,028 and I said I had nothing to do with that, that was God's work, 1335 00:59:14,072 --> 00:59:16,335 and that was the end of that. 1336 00:59:16,378 --> 00:59:17,205 [ Chuckling ] 1337 00:59:19,077 --> 00:59:22,689 I'm here at this drawing board at around, 1338 00:59:22,733 --> 00:59:24,691 I don't know, I'd say 10:00, 10:30, 1339 00:59:24,735 --> 00:59:28,086 and I stay here until the sun goes down. 1340 00:59:28,129 --> 00:59:32,351 He works seven days a week, goes to his studio 1341 00:59:32,394 --> 00:59:34,353 at 10:00 in the morning, 1342 00:59:34,396 --> 00:59:35,920 he eats lunch at noon, 1343 00:59:35,963 --> 00:59:37,965 he's back in the studio at a quarter to 1:00. 1344 00:59:38,009 --> 00:59:40,446 At 4:00 o'clock, 1345 00:59:40,489 --> 00:59:44,755 there's a knock on the door, and it's tea and cookies, 1346 00:59:44,798 --> 00:59:47,235 and he works until 5:30. 1347 00:59:47,279 --> 00:59:49,803 Hawking away and drawing and drawing and then, 1348 00:59:49,847 --> 00:59:52,023 something happens, it's a kind of magic 1349 00:59:52,066 --> 00:59:54,765 that takes place when the lines communicate 1350 00:59:54,808 --> 00:59:56,288 to the viewer 1351 00:59:56,331 --> 00:59:57,463 what you're seeing. 1352 00:59:57,506 --> 00:59:59,639 It's not anatomy. 1353 00:59:59,683 --> 01:00:01,815 It's a, it's a... 1354 01:00:01,859 --> 01:00:03,991 a whole business of how 1355 01:00:04,035 --> 01:00:06,428 one recognizes another person. 1356 01:00:06,472 --> 01:00:10,258 I suppose it's a combination of many things, 1357 01:00:10,302 --> 01:00:13,784 the way they walk, stand, move, and so on. 1358 01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:15,394 That's my contribution, I mean, 1359 01:00:15,437 --> 01:00:19,790 everybody has the ability to recognize someone. 1360 01:00:19,833 --> 01:00:22,401 But they don't all have the ability to communicate 1361 01:00:22,444 --> 01:00:25,056 that recognition through prose or through a line 1362 01:00:25,099 --> 01:00:26,274 to someone else. 1363 01:00:26,318 --> 01:00:28,233 MAN: ♪ C'est moi, c'est moi♪ 1364 01:00:28,276 --> 01:00:30,104 ♪ I'm forced to admit♪ 1365 01:00:30,148 --> 01:00:33,368 ♪ 'Tis I, I humbly reply♪ 1366 01:00:33,412 --> 01:00:36,328 ♪ That mortal who these marvels can do♪ 1367 01:00:36,371 --> 01:00:39,548 ♪ C'est moi, c'est moi, 'tis I♪ 1368 01:00:39,592 --> 01:00:45,598 ♪♪ 1369 01:00:59,090 --> 01:01:01,048 You're the worst driver I've ever seen in my life, 1370 01:01:01,092 --> 01:01:02,876 let's go any place, the worst, Europe, 1371 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,399 in any place, Asia. 1372 01:01:04,443 --> 01:01:05,966 -DIANE: Yeah. -WOODY: And I love 1373 01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:07,838 -what you're wearing. -DIANE: Oh, you do? Yeah? 1374 01:01:09,753 --> 01:01:10,841 [ Sighing ] 1375 01:01:14,061 --> 01:01:15,584 DOLLY: Go alone for a minute. 1376 01:01:15,628 --> 01:01:18,849 Please, for once, you-- sometimes go without me. 1377 01:01:23,505 --> 01:01:25,072 MARIA: He is not a lonely man, 1378 01:01:25,116 --> 01:01:26,987 he is an alone man. 1379 01:01:27,031 --> 01:01:28,989 He works alone. 1380 01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:33,690 He-- his art requires him to be an alone man, 1381 01:01:33,733 --> 01:01:35,953 a solitary figure. 1382 01:01:35,996 --> 01:01:37,041 [ Music playing ] 1383 01:01:37,998 --> 01:01:40,740 PHILIP: He will get many times 1384 01:01:40,784 --> 01:01:43,874 60 people into one drawing. 1385 01:01:43,917 --> 01:01:47,181 His intellect is such that he can compress 1386 01:01:47,225 --> 01:01:49,662 onto a small piece of paper 1387 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:52,578 an enormous event. 1388 01:01:52,621 --> 01:01:56,669 I think you know his-- his intellectual capacity 1389 01:01:56,713 --> 01:01:59,803 through the memory of his work. 1390 01:01:59,846 --> 01:02:01,761 JOSEPH: But I remember he was sitting there one time, 1391 01:02:01,805 --> 01:02:05,678 and he's trying to sketch, and it starts to rain, 1392 01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:07,245 and he starts to cover up this, 1393 01:02:07,288 --> 01:02:09,160 there's a drop over here, he covers up that, 1394 01:02:09,203 --> 01:02:11,031 he's still working away, and he covers his thing, 1395 01:02:11,075 --> 01:02:13,338 so I had some of the people get an umbrella around him, 1396 01:02:13,381 --> 01:02:15,340 but by that time we're all off the stage, 1397 01:02:15,383 --> 01:02:16,950 and he was doing it from memory. 1398 01:02:16,994 --> 01:02:19,344 You had to be very concentrated 1399 01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:21,259 to gather the gist of the show, 1400 01:02:21,302 --> 01:02:24,044 in addition to what maybe 1401 01:02:24,088 --> 01:02:25,785 even the authors intended. 1402 01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:29,528 He very often got what they didn't know they had gotten. 1403 01:02:31,530 --> 01:02:32,879 I give you truth 1404 01:02:32,923 --> 01:02:35,969 in the pleasant disguise of illusion. 1405 01:02:36,013 --> 01:02:38,058 STEFAN: Tennessee Williams were to make a statement 1406 01:02:38,102 --> 01:02:40,147 about the futility of love. 1407 01:02:40,191 --> 01:02:42,584 He would catch that, but Al would not make a statement, 1408 01:02:42,628 --> 01:02:43,977 he would translate that statement 1409 01:02:44,021 --> 01:02:46,806 made by Williams 1410 01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:49,853 or if Arthur Miller showed a broken man 1411 01:02:49,896 --> 01:02:51,202 who was once a salesman 1412 01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:52,812 and is now out of work and deflated, 1413 01:02:52,856 --> 01:02:54,945 he would deflate him on that page, 1414 01:02:54,988 --> 01:02:57,164 but he would not invent the man to deflate. 1415 01:02:57,208 --> 01:03:00,602 Why, why, that question has been trailing me 1416 01:03:00,646 --> 01:03:04,476 like a ghost for the last 15 years. 1417 01:03:06,521 --> 01:03:09,089 But you have to be caught up in the emotion of the play, 1418 01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:11,744 and it's below the surface of the play. 1419 01:03:14,094 --> 01:03:15,748 So it's more than just a description 1420 01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:18,142 of the-- of an individual, 1421 01:03:18,185 --> 01:03:21,623 but it sort of encompasses everything we do. 1422 01:03:23,277 --> 01:03:25,149 I was fascinated when I met him 1423 01:03:25,192 --> 01:03:28,935 because I think his whole body 1424 01:03:28,979 --> 01:03:31,590 has all the spring and delight 1425 01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:33,766 and electricity 1426 01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,942 that his drawings have. 1427 01:03:35,986 --> 01:03:39,772 And we tried to get him up here, 1428 01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:42,601 I don't know, to do something 1429 01:03:42,644 --> 01:03:46,953 in connection with this particular movie. 1430 01:03:46,997 --> 01:03:49,564 I think I'm rather easier than some. 1431 01:03:49,608 --> 01:03:51,392 I got exaggerated, sort of, 1432 01:03:51,436 --> 01:03:53,655 nostrils... and the mouth goes down, 1433 01:03:53,699 --> 01:03:55,919 you know, and cheeks go hollow. 1434 01:03:55,962 --> 01:03:58,225 He'll sometimes say that somebody's eyes 1435 01:03:58,269 --> 01:04:00,314 are like fried eggs. 1436 01:04:00,358 --> 01:04:03,491 Mouths become pee holes, 1437 01:04:03,535 --> 01:04:06,146 caverns, slits. 1438 01:04:06,190 --> 01:04:07,887 Hair might be Brillo, 1439 01:04:07,931 --> 01:04:10,672 rope, string, thread. 1440 01:04:10,716 --> 01:04:12,761 When he wrote about Zero Mostel that he was like 1441 01:04:12,805 --> 01:04:15,416 a bundle of dirty laundry, you immediately see Zero. 1442 01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:17,462 You can just him on the stage as Tevye. 1443 01:04:18,767 --> 01:04:21,031 Streisand is not a homely woman, 1444 01:04:21,074 --> 01:04:23,816 but she is this kind of tropical bird 1445 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,774 that he's made a note about. 1446 01:04:25,818 --> 01:04:27,646 Well, I'd like to draw people 1447 01:04:27,689 --> 01:04:30,475 who've kind of invented themselves. 1448 01:04:30,518 --> 01:04:34,087 They're like exploded ventricles. 1449 01:04:35,306 --> 01:04:38,657 The Carol Channings, Zero Mostels, 1450 01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:40,528 Orson Welles. 1451 01:04:42,008 --> 01:04:43,967 If you're looking for a beauty shot, forget it, 1452 01:04:44,010 --> 01:04:46,056 he's not going to make you beautiful. 1453 01:04:46,099 --> 01:04:48,972 He'll make you interesting but never beautiful. 1454 01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:53,324 Al did a caricature of me when I was inOn Your Toes, 1455 01:04:53,367 --> 01:04:55,500 and I looked at it and thought, 1456 01:04:55,543 --> 01:04:57,502 I wonder if he really doesn't like me, 1457 01:04:57,545 --> 01:04:59,504 I just wondered why he made me look 1458 01:04:59,547 --> 01:05:02,333 quite so unattractive. 1459 01:05:02,376 --> 01:05:04,335 Caricature is one thing, 1460 01:05:04,378 --> 01:05:06,598 but this abused the privilege. 1461 01:05:07,555 --> 01:05:09,340 [ Laughing ] 1462 01:05:09,383 --> 01:05:12,560 And it's not unflattering, really. 1463 01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:14,562 I'd like to look like that. 1464 01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:18,305 It makes us flattering even to be observed. 1465 01:05:18,349 --> 01:05:20,960 You know, say anything you want about me, but say something. 1466 01:05:21,004 --> 01:05:24,311 Certain faces lend themselves to... 1467 01:05:24,355 --> 01:05:27,967 well, I can say, the ridiculous caricature. 1468 01:05:28,011 --> 01:05:31,405 I think that Spencer was more difficult to do than Bogie. 1469 01:05:31,449 --> 01:05:34,321 "The African Queen" one is brilliant. 1470 01:05:34,365 --> 01:05:36,845 "The Abortion Queen," they call it now. 1471 01:05:36,889 --> 01:05:38,151 [ Laughing ] 1472 01:05:38,195 --> 01:05:41,372 Well, is that terrible? 1473 01:05:45,289 --> 01:05:47,421 Well, he is remarkable, 1474 01:05:47,465 --> 01:05:48,901 he runs up the stairs, 1475 01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:52,992 he runs down the stairs, does he still? 1476 01:05:53,036 --> 01:05:55,429 I don't exercise, 1477 01:05:55,473 --> 01:05:56,865 except going up and down the stairs 1478 01:05:56,909 --> 01:05:57,997 in my house. 1479 01:05:58,041 --> 01:05:59,172 I don't play golf. 1480 01:05:59,216 --> 01:06:00,565 I don't swim. 1481 01:06:00,608 --> 01:06:03,002 I never saw him lift anything heavier 1482 01:06:03,046 --> 01:06:07,006 than a coffee cup or a drawing pen. 1483 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,791 He was almost totally sedentary. 1484 01:06:09,835 --> 01:06:11,358 I had been in the country with him, 1485 01:06:11,402 --> 01:06:13,882 I never saw him exercise, 1486 01:06:13,926 --> 01:06:15,928 not even swim. 1487 01:06:16,668 --> 01:06:17,886 [ Tapping ] 1488 01:06:20,019 --> 01:06:22,979 [ Music playing ] 1489 01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:00,799 Well, I've done movies 1490 01:07:00,842 --> 01:07:02,975 in the early 20s up until now, 1491 01:07:03,019 --> 01:07:04,716 TV, 1492 01:07:04,759 --> 01:07:06,805 all of the performing arts, 1493 01:07:06,848 --> 01:07:08,981 philharmonic, opera, 1494 01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:10,330 the theater, of course. 1495 01:07:11,897 --> 01:07:13,725 How am I ever going to play for the Yankees 1496 01:07:13,768 --> 01:07:16,510 with a name like Eugene Morris Jerome? 1497 01:07:16,554 --> 01:07:18,904 You got to be a Tony or Frankie. 1498 01:07:18,947 --> 01:07:20,340 When you think of 1499 01:07:20,384 --> 01:07:22,168 theatrical caricatures, certainly, 1500 01:07:22,212 --> 01:07:23,952 you don't think of Hirschfeld among others, 1501 01:07:23,996 --> 01:07:25,780 you think of Hirschfeld, and I always remember thinking 1502 01:07:25,824 --> 01:07:27,782 that if you can only get from Philadelphia, 1503 01:07:27,826 --> 01:07:29,306 where I was growing up, to New York, 1504 01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:30,916 everybody would look like a Hirschfeld. 1505 01:07:30,959 --> 01:07:33,440 [ Music playing ] 1506 01:07:33,484 --> 01:07:36,269 MAN: ♪ Love me♪ 1507 01:07:36,313 --> 01:07:38,706 ♪ That's all♪ 1508 01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:42,188 ♪ I ask♪ 1509 01:07:42,232 --> 01:07:47,498 ♪ Of you♪ 1510 01:07:47,541 --> 01:07:50,066 A few years ago I was assigned of to do a drawing 1511 01:07:50,109 --> 01:07:52,111 on Eugene O'Neill's 1512 01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:54,113 Long Day's Journey into Night. 1513 01:07:56,376 --> 01:07:58,248 The caricature is crappy, I just got it, 1514 01:07:58,291 --> 01:08:00,250 and this guy fit me with new noses today, 1515 01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:02,904 I got all sorts of different faces he handed me. 1516 01:08:02,948 --> 01:08:05,342 And I say, "What is that guy doing?" And who is that? 1517 01:08:05,385 --> 01:08:08,649 God, I look like The Wandering Jew. 1518 01:08:08,693 --> 01:08:11,957 When Al draws my face, 1519 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,133 he's very concentrated on the jaw. 1520 01:08:14,177 --> 01:08:15,874 [ Laughing ] 1521 01:08:15,917 --> 01:08:17,876 I said something about that the other day 1522 01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:19,878 to the fellas in the cast, 1523 01:08:19,921 --> 01:08:22,620 I said, "Do you think my jaw is like that?" 1524 01:08:22,663 --> 01:08:24,361 And everybody turned to me and went... 1525 01:08:24,404 --> 01:08:26,189 [ Laughing ] 1526 01:08:32,891 --> 01:08:37,025 I try to get a new interpretation each time. 1527 01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:45,338 I looked up my old drawings, 1528 01:08:45,382 --> 01:08:47,427 on the original one with Freddie March 1529 01:08:47,471 --> 01:08:49,516 and Florence Eldridge, 1530 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,302 and Jason Robards. 1531 01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:55,348 [ Music playing ] 1532 01:09:26,771 --> 01:09:29,077 Detail of the table is driving me crazy. 1533 01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:30,035 [ Chuckling ] 1534 01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:41,829 Sometimes it's-- 1535 01:09:41,873 --> 01:09:43,831 goes very quickly 1536 01:09:43,875 --> 01:09:46,530 and other times it's-- you just produce 1537 01:09:46,573 --> 01:09:48,619 an ulcer, that's all. 1538 01:10:12,164 --> 01:10:14,862 There was a professor, an old dean, 1539 01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:17,038 in the University of Pennsylvania 1540 01:10:17,082 --> 01:10:19,954 who got himself a $60,000 grant 1541 01:10:19,998 --> 01:10:21,478 from the Pentagon 1542 01:10:21,521 --> 01:10:24,263 to research the Ninas in my drawings. 1543 01:10:24,307 --> 01:10:28,224 DR. CALVIN: Hirschfeld's a master of camouflage 1544 01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:31,052 in the way he hides a "Nina" in the scenes 1545 01:10:31,096 --> 01:10:32,445 that he creates. 1546 01:10:32,489 --> 01:10:34,752 What we're trying to do is understand 1547 01:10:34,795 --> 01:10:36,797 how people detect targets 1548 01:10:36,841 --> 01:10:39,974 when they are camouflaged in scenery. 1549 01:10:40,018 --> 01:10:42,586 AL: Student pilots pick out the Ninas in the drawing, 1550 01:10:42,629 --> 01:10:44,936 because it helps them in reading maps. 1551 01:10:44,979 --> 01:10:46,720 It's used for bombing. 1552 01:10:46,764 --> 01:10:48,069 [ Laughing ] 1553 01:10:48,113 --> 01:10:51,334 I said, "Sheer insanity, absolutely." 1554 01:10:51,377 --> 01:10:52,509 [ Explosion ] 1555 01:10:54,337 --> 01:10:56,295 [ Gunfire ] 1556 01:10:56,339 --> 01:10:58,166 [ Music playing ] 1557 01:11:00,299 --> 01:11:03,694 ERIC: Hirschfeld really manages to capture the spirit 1558 01:11:03,737 --> 01:11:05,522 of a-- of a pose 1559 01:11:05,565 --> 01:11:08,525 in a very simplified and elegant way. 1560 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:12,137 I was the first supervising animator on Aladdin. 1561 01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:14,444 So I thought who better to turn to than Hirschfeld 1562 01:11:14,487 --> 01:11:16,489 for good, simplified, shape 1563 01:11:16,533 --> 01:11:18,317 that you could kind of stretch around 1564 01:11:18,361 --> 01:11:20,667 and mangle, and twist, and turn, 1565 01:11:20,711 --> 01:11:22,756 you know, with the great deal of elasticity 1566 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,281 and also simplicity. 1567 01:11:25,324 --> 01:11:28,066 AL: The Disney Company said that I had this great effect 1568 01:11:28,109 --> 01:11:32,331 on the designing ofAladdin, 1569 01:11:32,375 --> 01:11:36,422 that the Genie who comes out of the bottle 1570 01:11:36,466 --> 01:11:39,817 was inspired by my drawings of just pure line. 1571 01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:43,777 Al was not aware of any of this while we were making the movie. 1572 01:11:43,821 --> 01:11:47,607 AL: Oh, I was not aware of this until I went out there. 1573 01:11:47,651 --> 01:11:50,131 ERIC: It was like the arrival of the patron saint, 1574 01:11:50,175 --> 01:11:52,960 there was this crew of 600 artists 1575 01:11:53,004 --> 01:11:57,574 who just spent the last year, you know, looking at Al's work. 1576 01:11:57,617 --> 01:12:00,011 -MAN: This is Al Hirschfeld. -Hello. 1577 01:12:01,273 --> 01:12:03,231 Oh. 1578 01:12:03,275 --> 01:12:05,756 I recognize that immediately. 1579 01:12:05,799 --> 01:12:08,062 ERIC: I mean, you can see I've even used a little bit 1580 01:12:08,106 --> 01:12:09,977 of a Hirschfeld curly cue here 1581 01:12:10,021 --> 01:12:12,284 in the way these fingers are defined. 1582 01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,286 AL: I suppose everybody has their own kind 1583 01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:16,114 of thumbprint, you know. 1584 01:12:16,157 --> 01:12:18,682 ERIC: If you take a good Hirschfeld drawing, 1585 01:12:18,725 --> 01:12:20,379 what isn't a good Hirschfeld drawing, 1586 01:12:20,423 --> 01:12:23,600 but if you take any Hirschfeld drawing, 1587 01:12:23,643 --> 01:12:29,606 and you see the way that these lines lean 1588 01:12:29,649 --> 01:12:32,391 in such a supple way around the form, 1589 01:12:32,435 --> 01:12:34,611 you know to define what the silhouette is, 1590 01:12:34,654 --> 01:12:36,961 I mean you can see the same kind of supple 1591 01:12:37,004 --> 01:12:38,397 leading from, you know, 1592 01:12:38,441 --> 01:12:40,399 down the back around the shoe, 1593 01:12:40,443 --> 01:12:42,401 the same kind of form, 1594 01:12:42,445 --> 01:12:46,362 which Freddie Moore gave Mickey in 1941. 1595 01:12:46,405 --> 01:12:49,147 One thing that animators always look for 1596 01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:53,194 is a-- is a kind of clarity 1597 01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:55,501 to the silhouette of the character 1598 01:12:55,545 --> 01:12:56,807 that they're working on. 1599 01:12:56,850 --> 01:12:59,026 And since the Genie had to chain 1600 01:12:59,070 --> 01:13:01,377 from one character to the next, 1601 01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:03,770 that clarity was essential. 1602 01:13:03,814 --> 01:13:05,511 You had to be able to get it, 1603 01:13:05,555 --> 01:13:07,948 you know, in a split second and move on. 1604 01:13:07,992 --> 01:13:09,950 There've been lots of artists in the past 1605 01:13:09,994 --> 01:13:12,953 who have influenced the look of a Disney movie. 1606 01:13:12,997 --> 01:13:15,260 So I would say Mr. Hirschfeld, you know, 1607 01:13:15,303 --> 01:13:16,435 whether he knew it or not, 1608 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,698 joined the ranks of many of those. 1609 01:13:20,352 --> 01:13:23,311 AL: I think the whole trick in art is to stay alive. 1610 01:13:23,355 --> 01:13:24,965 A young artist came up to me, 1611 01:13:25,009 --> 01:13:26,445 and I don't know where to send them. 1612 01:13:26,489 --> 01:13:29,492 I mean, there's no crying need for caricature 1613 01:13:29,535 --> 01:13:33,234 at the moment, it's a lemming profession, it seems to me. 1614 01:13:33,278 --> 01:13:36,150 I try to discourage them the best I can, 1615 01:13:36,194 --> 01:13:37,848 not because they don't have talents, 1616 01:13:37,891 --> 01:13:39,763 I mean, their gifts, they have, of course, 1617 01:13:39,806 --> 01:13:42,374 but, I tell you, that talent is a drug on the market, 1618 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:43,941 really it is. 1619 01:13:43,984 --> 01:13:47,335 And my only respect is for the capacity for work. 1620 01:13:47,379 --> 01:13:49,468 I've always said that if you want to make a living, 1621 01:13:49,512 --> 01:13:51,209 open a delicatessen, you know, 1622 01:13:51,252 --> 01:13:54,778 but art is no way to do it. 1623 01:13:55,866 --> 01:13:58,390 ♪ Never, never be an artist♪ 1624 01:13:58,434 --> 01:14:02,046 ♪ If you think you can make one cent♪ 1625 01:14:02,089 --> 01:14:04,744 ♪ Never, never be an artist♪ 1626 01:14:04,788 --> 01:14:08,008 ♪ If there's no one to pay your rent♪ 1627 01:14:13,274 --> 01:14:14,754 Stuck. 1628 01:14:16,016 --> 01:14:18,192 ♪ Never, never be an artist♪ 1629 01:14:18,236 --> 01:14:21,587 ♪ Unless you want to have a marvelous time♪ 1630 01:14:21,631 --> 01:14:25,678 ♪ Unless you want to have a marvelous time♪ 1631 01:14:25,722 --> 01:14:27,288 AL: Well, I've been described everything 1632 01:14:27,332 --> 01:14:30,509 from a Messiah to a boulevardier 1633 01:14:30,553 --> 01:14:32,990 to a rabbi. 1634 01:14:34,252 --> 01:14:35,819 We are here in the Algonquin, 1635 01:14:35,862 --> 01:14:38,648 the perfect place to celebrate Al Hirschfeld, 1636 01:14:38,691 --> 01:14:41,477 and he has his own round table. 1637 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,742 It's a very sentimental thing to be here. 1638 01:14:45,785 --> 01:14:47,744 MAN: Dearly beloved... 1639 01:14:47,787 --> 01:14:49,572 [ Laughing ] 1640 01:14:49,615 --> 01:14:52,662 We're gathered here in the sight of God and man. 1641 01:14:52,705 --> 01:14:54,664 I'm the man, 1642 01:14:54,707 --> 01:14:56,535 and Al is the god. 1643 01:14:56,579 --> 01:14:58,537 [ Laughing ] 1644 01:14:58,581 --> 01:15:01,975 Pagan god, appropriately bearded. 1645 01:15:02,019 --> 01:15:04,674 Let us imagine him as Zeus 1646 01:15:04,717 --> 01:15:07,024 with Dolly as his Hera, 1647 01:15:07,067 --> 01:15:10,462 a god armed with pens and pencils 1648 01:15:10,506 --> 01:15:12,377 instead of thunderbolts, 1649 01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:15,554 in order to keep proper care 1650 01:15:15,598 --> 01:15:17,382 of an unruly world. 1651 01:15:17,425 --> 01:15:19,253 KATHARINE: It's a wonderful comment, 1652 01:15:19,297 --> 01:15:21,821 on the curious trip 1653 01:15:21,865 --> 01:15:25,129 that civilization seems to be taking. 1654 01:15:25,172 --> 01:15:27,479 What's happened to Hirschfeld is 1655 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:29,525 through the years, I mean, this guy's in his 90s, 1656 01:15:29,568 --> 01:15:32,223 and he-- he's like 1657 01:15:32,266 --> 01:15:35,531 Tolstoy and Verdi, 1658 01:15:35,574 --> 01:15:37,402 and Picasso, whose productions 1659 01:15:37,445 --> 01:15:39,186 got leaner, and leaner, and leaner. 1660 01:15:39,230 --> 01:15:41,145 I mean, Picasso eventually began to caricature himself, 1661 01:15:41,188 --> 01:15:43,451 but the others really burned away 1662 01:15:43,495 --> 01:15:45,062 all that was inessential 1663 01:15:45,105 --> 01:15:47,194 and left with this very refined art. 1664 01:15:47,238 --> 01:15:49,196 And there's one line that you can remove 1665 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,589 without destroying the composition, 1666 01:15:50,633 --> 01:15:53,244 now he's gotten it down to that point. 1667 01:15:53,287 --> 01:15:55,681 Well, when my wife died, Dolly, 1668 01:15:55,725 --> 01:15:57,727 a remarkable lady, by the way... 1669 01:15:59,511 --> 01:16:00,947 Well, I haven't made peace with that, 1670 01:16:00,991 --> 01:16:05,038 I don't suppose I ever will, I'm furious. 1671 01:16:05,082 --> 01:16:08,825 But I've adjusted to it as best I can and... 1672 01:16:08,868 --> 01:16:12,089 because there's nothing I can do about it. 1673 01:16:19,139 --> 01:16:23,143 She always set this absolutely gorgeous table. 1674 01:16:23,187 --> 01:16:25,842 And almost a dramatic theatrical table 1675 01:16:25,885 --> 01:16:27,539 with red glasses 1676 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:30,194 and flowers at each place. 1677 01:16:30,237 --> 01:16:31,630 A stage setting, 1678 01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:35,460 a theatrical dining room, in many ways. 1679 01:16:35,503 --> 01:16:40,508 And when she died, and Al started inviting people 1680 01:16:40,552 --> 01:16:43,729 to come to dinner again, 1681 01:16:43,773 --> 01:16:45,644 it was exactly the same, 1682 01:16:45,688 --> 01:16:49,126 he kept it, the table, 1683 01:16:49,169 --> 01:16:51,128 the only thing missing was Dolly. 1684 01:16:51,171 --> 01:16:53,652 MARIA: I think the fact that he was able to work 1685 01:16:53,696 --> 01:16:57,743 after her death was because she had already given him 1686 01:16:57,787 --> 01:16:59,615 how to handle her death. 1687 01:16:59,658 --> 01:17:03,662 She had given him the right not to feel guilty. 1688 01:17:03,706 --> 01:17:05,751 And so it's a great gift. 1689 01:17:05,795 --> 01:17:08,885 AL: My adjustment seems to startle people, 1690 01:17:08,928 --> 01:17:11,191 and thus, doesn't seem to be normal. 1691 01:17:11,235 --> 01:17:13,367 I don't know why it struck-- strikes me 1692 01:17:13,411 --> 01:17:15,631 as being completely normal. 1693 01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:18,764 [ Record playing ] 1694 01:17:21,985 --> 01:17:24,291 I remember reading as an article some years ago 1695 01:17:24,335 --> 01:17:27,991 about longevity, and there was an interview with Shaw 1696 01:17:28,034 --> 01:17:31,690 and they had asked him to what he attributed 1697 01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:33,300 his longevity, and he said, 1698 01:17:33,344 --> 01:17:37,217 "Well, I never drank, I never ate meat, 1699 01:17:37,261 --> 01:17:39,393 I'm a vegetarian." 1700 01:17:39,437 --> 01:17:41,526 And he said, "I assume that's it." 1701 01:17:41,569 --> 01:17:45,835 He said-- and that sounded reasonable. 1702 01:17:45,878 --> 01:17:48,620 Then I read sometime later an interview with Churchill. 1703 01:17:48,664 --> 01:17:50,927 They asked him to what he attributed his longevity, 1704 01:17:50,970 --> 01:17:53,930 and he said, "Well, I smoke about 10 cigars a day, 1705 01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:55,714 I drink a quart of brandy, 1706 01:17:55,758 --> 01:17:57,716 and I eat nothing but red meat." 1707 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,544 [ Horns honking ] 1708 01:18:00,980 --> 01:18:03,591 I had my license renewed recently. 1709 01:18:03,635 --> 01:18:05,376 It's so ridiculous. 1710 01:18:05,419 --> 01:18:09,032 I couldn't see the eye chart, but got the license anyway. 1711 01:18:11,034 --> 01:18:13,732 I'm no good at being alone, you know. 1712 01:18:13,776 --> 01:18:17,954 After Dolly died, of course, I kept going to the theater. 1713 01:18:17,997 --> 01:18:20,434 And often I had company. 1714 01:18:22,132 --> 01:18:25,526 Well, I guess it's the theatre that we... we've had in common. 1715 01:18:25,570 --> 01:18:28,704 My late husband and I were friends of Al and Dolly's 1716 01:18:28,747 --> 01:18:30,662 for over 30 years. 1717 01:18:33,143 --> 01:18:35,014 Where are we going tonight? 1718 01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:36,668 You got to be kidding me. 1719 01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:40,672 [ Indistinct chatter ] 1720 01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:45,068 You have the tickets? 1721 01:18:45,111 --> 01:18:46,722 -Do you have the tickets? -No. 1722 01:18:46,765 --> 01:18:48,158 LOUISE: Where do we get them? 1723 01:18:48,201 --> 01:18:49,768 [ Indistinct chatter ] 1724 01:18:49,812 --> 01:18:52,423 LOUISE: It's unbelievable that we're so close now. 1725 01:18:54,773 --> 01:18:56,470 When I was playing a character, 1726 01:18:56,514 --> 01:18:57,994 everything about that character 1727 01:18:58,037 --> 01:19:00,126 came clearly through the drawing. 1728 01:19:00,170 --> 01:19:02,215 This is the first Dolly. 1729 01:19:02,259 --> 01:19:05,001 That was when I was nice and healthy and plump. 1730 01:19:05,044 --> 01:19:08,221 Look, he dropped 20 pounds off me 1731 01:19:08,265 --> 01:19:11,094 because I was thinking I was thin. 1732 01:19:11,137 --> 01:19:12,486 [ Indistinct chatter ] 1733 01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:13,661 Oh, Al. 1734 01:19:14,837 --> 01:19:18,841 I must tell you Al Hirschfeld first did, 1735 01:19:18,884 --> 01:19:21,278 he picked me out of one of 20 unknowns 1736 01:19:21,321 --> 01:19:24,281 in a little revue called Lend An Ear. 1737 01:19:24,324 --> 01:19:26,849 And he put me on the front page 1738 01:19:26,892 --> 01:19:28,851 of theNew York Times, 1739 01:19:28,894 --> 01:19:31,810 and that was the beginning of me. 1740 01:19:31,854 --> 01:19:33,290 [ Laughing ] 1741 01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:36,597 There's something about the continuity, 1742 01:19:36,641 --> 01:19:39,383 the unchanging virtuosity 1743 01:19:39,426 --> 01:19:40,819 of Hirschfeld's style, 1744 01:19:40,863 --> 01:19:43,604 that seems to fit the style of Broadway 1745 01:19:43,648 --> 01:19:45,606 as it evolved over the 20th Century. 1746 01:19:45,650 --> 01:19:47,913 WOMAN: ♪ Yes, everything's as if♪ 1747 01:19:47,957 --> 01:19:52,483 ♪ We never said good-bye♪ 1748 01:19:54,137 --> 01:19:57,227 It's probably the most exciting opening night 1749 01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:59,011 that I have ever been to. 1750 01:19:59,055 --> 01:20:01,797 [ Car honking ] 1751 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,276 BACALL: There's nobody like you, Al. 1752 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,582 AL: Well, thank you. 1753 01:20:04,625 --> 01:20:06,192 BACALL: Never has been, never will be. 1754 01:20:06,236 --> 01:20:08,934 You're a national treasure. 1755 01:20:08,978 --> 01:20:10,196 -No, you are. -You are. 1756 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:11,632 No, you are a national treasure-- 1757 01:20:11,676 --> 01:20:12,851 come on and face it. 1758 01:20:12,895 --> 01:20:14,810 Relax and enjoy it, you've earned it. 1759 01:20:18,509 --> 01:20:20,119 It's incredible. 1760 01:20:20,163 --> 01:20:23,644 Well, it's almost impossible to control the way-- 1761 01:20:23,688 --> 01:20:26,647 It's so crazy, I can't-- 1762 01:20:26,691 --> 01:20:31,217 Well, in one lifetime to have the automobile, 1763 01:20:31,261 --> 01:20:33,611 the radio, the television, 1764 01:20:33,654 --> 01:20:35,265 and now the Internet. 1765 01:20:35,308 --> 01:20:38,268 And this CD-ROM thing is just too much 1766 01:20:38,311 --> 01:20:41,445 for one human being to absorb. 1767 01:20:41,488 --> 01:20:45,188 Well, it's like discovering paint, you know. 1768 01:20:45,231 --> 01:20:47,712 And the cave drawings of Altamira, 1769 01:20:47,755 --> 01:20:51,716 you know, up to this is quite a jump. 1770 01:20:51,759 --> 01:20:55,633 But I suppose it is possible to control it. 1771 01:20:55,676 --> 01:20:59,071 It just requires another lifetime to do it, that's all. 1772 01:21:03,728 --> 01:21:07,340 Living is an art, it's not a science, you know. 1773 01:21:07,384 --> 01:21:09,516 You make it up as you go along. 1774 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,477 And I think that's what it's all about. 1775 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,089 [ Birds chirping ] 1776 01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:19,004 I look forward to the future, actually. 1777 01:21:19,048 --> 01:21:21,702 I don't dwell on the past at all. 1778 01:21:21,746 --> 01:21:23,226 Although I've been yapping away 1779 01:21:23,269 --> 01:21:24,880 for all this time about the past, 1780 01:21:24,923 --> 01:21:28,274 but that is normal for me, really. 1781 01:21:28,318 --> 01:21:31,582 I look back and ought to be 90 again. 1782 01:21:35,194 --> 01:21:36,543 [ Music playing ] 1783 01:21:36,587 --> 01:21:37,936 BARBRA: ♪ Look at that face♪ 1784 01:21:37,980 --> 01:21:39,720 ♪ Just look at it♪ 1785 01:21:39,764 --> 01:21:45,117 ♪ Look at that fabulous face of yours♪ 1786 01:21:45,161 --> 01:21:47,946 ♪ I knew first look I took at it♪ 1787 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:49,817 ♪ This was the face♪ 1788 01:21:49,861 --> 01:21:53,734 ♪ That the world adores♪ 1789 01:21:53,778 --> 01:21:56,694 ♪ Look at those eyes as wise♪ 1790 01:21:56,737 --> 01:22:00,741 ♪ And as deep as the sea♪ 1791 01:22:02,830 --> 01:22:04,615 ♪ Look at that nose♪ 1792 01:22:04,658 --> 01:22:07,270 ♪ It shows what a nose♪ 1793 01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:10,534 ♪ Should be♪ 1794 01:22:11,839 --> 01:22:15,452 ♪ As for your smile, it's lyrical♪ 1795 01:22:15,495 --> 01:22:20,805 ♪ Friendly and warm as a summer's day♪ 1796 01:22:20,848 --> 01:22:23,939 ♪ Your face is just a miracle♪ 1797 01:22:23,982 --> 01:22:25,941 ♪ Where could I ever find♪ 1798 01:22:25,984 --> 01:22:30,336 ♪ Words to say?♪ 1799 01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:35,341 ♪ The way that it makes me happy♪ 1800 01:22:35,385 --> 01:22:41,086 ♪ Whatever the time or place♪ 1801 01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,960 ♪ I will find in no book♪ 1802 01:22:45,003 --> 01:22:47,701 ♪ What I find♪ 1803 01:22:47,745 --> 01:22:51,705 ♪ When I look♪ 1804 01:22:51,749 --> 01:22:56,754 ♪ At that face♪ 1805 01:23:12,509 --> 01:23:16,339 ♪ There's no business like show business♪ 1806 01:23:16,382 --> 01:23:20,473 ♪ Like no business I know♪ 1807 01:23:20,517 --> 01:23:24,260 ♪ Everything about it is appealing♪ 1808 01:23:24,303 --> 01:23:27,698 ♪ Everything the traffic will allow♪ 1809 01:23:27,741 --> 01:23:30,875 ♪ Nowhere could you get that happy feeling♪ 1810 01:23:30,918 --> 01:23:34,531 ♪ When you are stealing that extra bow♪ 1811 01:23:34,574 --> 01:23:38,187 ♪ There's no people like show people♪ 1812 01:23:38,230 --> 01:23:42,234 ♪ They smile when they are low♪ 1813 01:23:42,278 --> 01:23:45,716 ♪ Yesterday they told you you would not go far♪ 1814 01:23:45,759 --> 01:23:49,546 ♪ That night you opened and there you are♪ 1815 01:23:49,589 --> 01:23:51,243 ♪ Next day on your dressing room♪ 1816 01:23:51,287 --> 01:23:52,897 ♪ They hung a star♪ 1817 01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:56,857 ♪ Let's go on with the show♪ 1818 01:23:56,901 --> 01:23:58,772 ♪ The costumes, the scenery♪ 1819 01:23:58,816 --> 01:24:00,687 ♪ The makeup, the props♪ 1820 01:24:00,731 --> 01:24:04,474 ♪ The audience that lifts you when you're down♪ 1821 01:24:04,517 --> 01:24:06,345 ♪ The headaches, the heartaches♪ 1822 01:24:06,389 --> 01:24:08,478 ♪ The backaches, the flops♪ 1823 01:24:08,521 --> 01:24:12,264 ♪ The sheriff who escorts you out of town♪ 1824 01:24:12,308 --> 01:24:16,094 ♪ The opening when your heart beats like a drum♪ 1825 01:24:16,138 --> 01:24:20,446 ♪ The closing when the customers won't come♪ 1826 01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:24,102 ♪ There's no business like show business♪ 1827 01:24:24,146 --> 01:24:28,237 ♪ Like no business I know♪ 1828 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,936 ♪ You get word before the show has started♪ 1829 01:24:31,979 --> 01:24:35,809 ♪ That your favorite uncle died at dawn♪ 1830 01:24:35,853 --> 01:24:38,769 ♪ Top of that, your ma and pa had parted♪ 1831 01:24:38,812 --> 01:24:40,727 ♪ You're brokenhearted♪ 1832 01:24:40,771 --> 01:24:42,773 ♪ But you go on♪ 1833 01:24:42,816 --> 01:24:46,255 ♪ There's no people like show people♪ 1834 01:24:46,298 --> 01:24:50,346 ♪ They don't run out of dough♪ 1835 01:24:50,389 --> 01:24:54,045 ♪ Angels come from everywhere with lots of jack♪ 1836 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:57,614 ♪ And when you lose it, there's no attack♪ 1837 01:24:57,657 --> 01:24:59,181 ♪ Where could you get money♪ 1838 01:24:59,224 --> 01:25:01,052 ♪ That you don't get back?♪ 1839 01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:04,795 ♪ Let's go on with the show♪ 1840 01:25:04,838 --> 01:25:08,451 ♪ There's no business like show business♪ 1841 01:25:08,494 --> 01:25:12,455 ♪ If you tell me it's so♪ 1842 01:25:12,498 --> 01:25:16,154 ♪ Traveling through the country is so thrilling♪ 1843 01:25:16,198 --> 01:25:19,766 ♪ Standing out in front on opening nights♪ 1844 01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:22,769 ♪ Smiling as you watch the benches filling♪ 1845 01:25:22,813 --> 01:25:26,773 ♪ And see your billing out there in lights♪ 1846 01:25:26,817 --> 01:25:30,516 ♪ There's no people like show people♪ 1847 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,607 ♪ They smile when they are low♪ 1848 01:25:34,651 --> 01:25:38,133 ♪ Even with a turkey that you know will fold♪ 1849 01:25:38,176 --> 01:25:41,788 ♪ You may be stranded out in the cold♪ 1850 01:25:41,832 --> 01:25:45,140 ♪ Still you wouldn't change it for a sack of gold♪ 1851 01:25:45,183 --> 01:25:48,795 ♪ Let's go on with the show♪ 1852 01:25:48,839 --> 01:25:53,844 ♪ Let's go on with the show♪ 129964

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