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Chop.
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Poke.
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Slice.
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Rip.
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"Halloween is making a lot of money.
Let's rip it off." That's a direct quote.
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Well, yeah. That's a movie I could sell.
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Well, rip-off or not,
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Friday the 13th
springboarded into its own…
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"No."
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…unique monster.
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I was the king of gore.
The wizard of splatter.
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Thanks to a novice filmmaker…
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I didn't know what could
and could not be done.
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…and a team of budding actors.
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I had two or three tokes of a large joint.
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Like that.
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And while expectations were, low…
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What the heck is this?
Nobody is going to see this thing.
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…this eager and unlikely team…
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We were all kind of flying
by the seat of our pants.
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…blindly bumbled their way…
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My eye just started
to completely melt down.
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…into accidentally making…
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The most terrifying film ever made.
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This is the raw…
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Somebody had come along
and used the toilets.
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…and candid tale…
They were not working toilets.
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…of the making of a slasher classic.
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It was magic.
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Told by those willing…
Okay.
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…to spill their guts about…
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The violence.
And…
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The gore.
And…
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The sex.
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Who told you that?
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That's a fucking lie.
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These are The Movies That Made Us.
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There's nothing…
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…more horrific…
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…more dangerous…
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…than…
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hockey.
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So, it's no surprise
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that one of cinema's most notorious,
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mutated boys gone bad,
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Jason,
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keeps himself safe
from pucks and the like,
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movie after movie after movie.
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But this iconic symbol of horror,
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well, it's got nothing to do
with the very first Friday the 13th movie.
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In fact, the movie that spawned
this horror franchise was based around…
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a summer camp,
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where the aforementioned Jason
drowned as a boy…
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He wasn't a very good swimmer.
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…due to untrustworthy,
preoccupied camp counselors…
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We weren't doing anything.
We were just messing...
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…leading to a vindictive
trail of vengeance…
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…and a decades-long reputation…
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This place is cursed.
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…that's pooh-poohed
by this new group of camp counselors…
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Get out of here, man.
…who arrive…
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Welcome to Camp Crystal.
Thank you.
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…only to be systematically slaughtered
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one by one.
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Leading to a...
Yeah, I forgot about her.
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Leading to a showdown with the killer,
who turns out to be the mum…
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Jason was my son.
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…who's swiftly disposed of
by this one very tough girl,
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who, after her ordeal,
retreats to this canoe for a nap.
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He was clearly very annoyed about his mum.
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The end. Or is it?
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And the man responsible
for this slasher classic
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is the bloodthirsty filmmaker,
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that's a tin of blood right there,
named Sean Cunningham.
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So, what are we doing here?
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And he came from one of the scariest,
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most grotesque art forms of them all.
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In Broadway, in stage management.
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But the bright lights of Broadway
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weren't enough for Sean Cunningham.
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I just didn't see myself
doing eight shows a week on Broadway.
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So, instead…
Friend said, "Why don't we make a movie?"
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But being a theater guy…
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I didn't know anything about it.
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I had never really seen
a film camera in my life.
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Well, that would very soon change,
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because it just so happened,
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where Sean lived,
New York City in the early '70s,
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was the perfect training ground.
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There was a renaissance
of documentary work.
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They had just come up
with something called Tri-X film,
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which allowed you to shoot a lot
without lights and there was
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a sense of possibility.
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And so, Sean blindly fumbled about…
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I was kind of learning film by Braille.
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…until he created a thought-provoking
documentary of his own,
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called The Art of Marriage.
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We theoretically
had a doctor in a white coat,
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who would speak directly
to the audience and tell them
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the value of certain sexual positions.
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Well, it turns out
there was quite a bit of value in it.
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That movie played
on Times Square for 26, 27 weeks.
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Suddenly, I was a successful
film producer.
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And Sean's next movie came together…
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Called Together.
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…very easily with the help of…
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This kid down the hall
who had just come from teaching.
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…this young kid down the hall was named…
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Wes Craven, who ever heard of him?
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Well, eventually, a lot of people,
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on account of him going on
to become the father of Freddy Krueger.
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But at that point, the only one who'd
heard of him was the guy up the hall.
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Wes and I, together,
really learned how to glue film together.
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Which is exactly how they made…
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Together.
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…which, for those wondering,
was about the... Well…
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There was this very handsome stud,
and the lady comes in to see him.
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Yes, they get together.
Now, speaking of studs…
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My name is George Mansour.
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I'm a film booker, buyer.
I get paid to go to the movies.
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And to pick the movies
that were shown on the screens
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of Boston-based chain, Esquire Theaters.
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They had everything,
from X-rated movie houses
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to drive-ins where they played
exploitation and horror.
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But it was George's
gut instinct for movies…
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It's all right here. It's all right here.
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…that led to an outpouring of praise
when Sean Cunningham arrived
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with his movie Together.
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I said to my boss,
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"This is a movie we could play,
not necessarily in X-rated movie houses."
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"We could play it
in our class movie house."
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And together,
Together made quite a bit of money.
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Almost a million dollars.
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And that's where I got
my first little piece of success.
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Success that continued
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as Sean worked
with his new collaborator, Wes Craven.
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The whole idea of doing a horror film
never would have occurred to me.
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Sean said, "You know, the backers
want a scary movie."
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"Ever write something scary?"
" I said, "No."
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He said, "Go write something scary,
and if they like it, you can direct it."
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Wes Craven and I came up with a notion
of doing Last House on the Left.
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Produced by Sean
and written and directed by Wes Craven.
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It was, um…
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That was a very sensational movie.
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With the aim being…
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…that it would be so sensational
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that you couldn't
not want to go and see it.
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Well, in theory, anyway.
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It wasn't an enormous hit,
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but it had an enormous amount
of notoriety that went with it.
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Which, then,
left Wes and Sean with a question.
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"What are we gonna do next?"
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What do you want to be?
A frog.
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Looking to exploit their success,
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Sean Cunningham made
the most shocking movie of all.
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A baseball film.
Okay, let's go get some ice cream.
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I'll pass your ice cream this time.
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It was a very poor man's version
of Bad News Bears.
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Striking out, Sean stepped up
to the plate once more,
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this time, going in a decidedly
different direction with Manny's Orphans.
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It was sort of like
The Bad News Bears play soccer.
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It was bad news, all right. But anyway,
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it was clear that Sean was going to have
to look to something other
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than the Bad News Bears for inspiration,
and his attentions turned westward,
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where filmmakers
Irwin Yablans and John Carpenter
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had won the jackpot with a movie called…
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Halloween.
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I thought that John did some wonderful,
imaginative, small moviemaking things.
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Yes, certainly small
when it came to the budget.
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Halloween was a $300,000 movie
that made millions.
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Because of that, every producer in town
suddenly wanted to make horror film.
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Well, every producer except
the one that actually made Halloween.
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Sean Cunningham, whom I did not know,
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he came to me
and wanted to do a horror film.
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But not a direct rip-off
of Halloween or anything.
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I came up with the idea
of a film entitled Friday the 13th.
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And I said, "Friday the 13th,
now that's a movie I could sell."
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But not to the Halloween guy.
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I didn't wanna do
another horror movie right away.
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I wanted to move on.
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And so, Irwin did just that,
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leaving Sean Cunningham with no deal.
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No.
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Luckily, when it came
to financing Friday the 13th…
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We're going to play strip Monopoly.
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…he was willing to try
a variety of techniques.
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Really, what I did was,
created an ad for Variety,
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and it was a great big full-page ad
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with the block letters
"Friday the 13th" breaking some glass.
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It said, "Friday the 13th,
the most terrifying film ever made."
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And despite not having
a script or even a premise,
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the power of advertising worked.
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I got some people
in Germany and people in Japan
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and some other places that said
they were interested in buying it.
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And I said, "-ha! Let's see
if we can actually make this movie."
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"How are we gonna do that?"
I said, "Jeez, I don't know."
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Well, there was one way,
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and it involves
our old friend George and his boss.
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Phil Scuderi, who is Italian…
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Same as the guys from Boston.
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And Phil from Boston, well…
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He was…
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He was... He was...
George'll tell you.
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He was the kind of person
who would carry around big roll of bills
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and would peel off money to you.
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Yeah.
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And Phil had peeled off money
to Sean before.
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For the baseball movie.
So…
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He wants to put up 25 percent of it.
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Okay, great. I'm gonna...
I'm gonna raise the rest of the money.
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So, thanks to Phil from Boston
with his lovely big rolls of money,
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Sean could get started on
the other missing elements of his movie,
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those being a premise and a script.
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But for that,
Sean kicked the ball to Victor Miller,
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the guy who'd written
those failed sports movies, and he said…
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What do I do?
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"I've never made a horror movie."
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I said, "Don't worry about it.
We'll figure it out."
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Here's Victor explaining how they did.
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"Halloween is making a lot of money.
Let's rip it off." That's a direct quote.
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Well, yeah.
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So, I went to see Halloween,
and I figured out the format.
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Basically, you start with a prior evil
that happens before the movie opens.
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We were just messing...
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Well, how about a senseless
murder in a quaint summer camp?
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That would set the stage
for terrifying future events.
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But there's more to the formula.
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You have a bunch of randy teenagers
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who are outside
the help of formal authority.
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Meaning…
Adults cannot come and save their asses.
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Certainly the case in Halloween,
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and certainly the case in Friday the 13th.
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There's probably some stupid
explanation for all this.
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And then, the most
important part of the formula…
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You knock them off one by one,
especially the ones who fornicate.
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So, in Halloween…
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And in Friday the 13th…
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But let's be honest.
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For as much as Halloween
and Friday the 13th have in common…
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You wanna show the audience
something they haven't seen before.
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And what no one had seen
in the essentially bloodless Halloween…
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…was gore.
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But…
None of us had done special effects.
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And so, as usual, Sean looked
at somebody else's work for inspiration.
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George Romero had done…
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Dawn of the Dead.
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And he had some kind
of cool special effects in there.
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Sean asked himself…
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Who did those?
And the answer?
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Yeah, Tom Savini. I was the special
makeup effects artist on Dawn of the Dead.
251
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And Tom had
an interesting job description.
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I make pretty people ugly. I kill people.
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I can create beauty.
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But there's more of a call for ugly, okay?
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And so, Sean called Tom.
Yes.
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He walked in the door, and that was it.
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But every wizard has an apprentice.
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Hi. My name is Taso Stavrakis.
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This recognizable face and stomach…
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There he is.
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…went way back with Tom.
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He and I became best friends mostly
because we did a lot of sword fighting.
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We'd go out to the woods
with capes and swords, a couple of geeks.
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But when it came
to non-geek, pretend killings,
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that's when Tom
and Taso were really on point.
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Tom told them he could definitely
take it to a new level, you know,
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all the stuff Carpenter didn't show,
we could show.
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That being blood and lots of it.
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But not the cheap Dawn of the Dead stuff.
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Dawn of the Dead was like a comic book.
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Lots of blood. The blood
came from Germany. It was horrible.
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And Friday the 13th,
we immediately went more realistic.
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I have a reputation for realism,
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because it has to be anatomically correct
for it to be good to me.
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And surprise, surprise,
there was a formula for that, too…
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That's correct.
…which Taso will now reveal. Start with…
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Karo syrup.
And add a dash of…
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Food coloring.
But to nail the viscosity…
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Not just the right color,
but the right texture.
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…you'll need this secret ingredient.
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Kodak Photo-Flo.
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Then, give it a mix
to create that picture-perfect ooze juice.
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And that's what we gave 'em.
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While Tom and Taso brewed blood,
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Sean got to work finding his cast,
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picking up Robbi Morgan along the way.
Hi.
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I went, "Sean, watch this."
And I tumbled for him.
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A skill that would come in handy.
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I was like, "Sean, I could do this."
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"I could do that."
291
00:14:30,451 --> 00:14:31,951
I was like a little hummingbird.
292
00:14:32,037 --> 00:14:34,246
But Sean, well, he'd seen enough.
293
00:14:34,331 --> 00:14:35,370
Okay, kid, let's move it.
294
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Her innocence made her
kind of the perfect candidate
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for somebody who
you would never wish any harm.
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Yeah, spoiler alert.
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And so, we built her into the opening.
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How far is it to Camp Crystal Lake?
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Meanwhile, someone else
who'd been looking for direction…
300
00:14:50,889 --> 00:14:53,730
"I'll follow this path
and see where it takes me."
301
00:14:53,808 --> 00:14:57,269
…was Jeannine Taylor,
and, like Sean, this thespian at heart…
302
00:14:57,354 --> 00:15:00,774
So, I went to New York,
studied singing and acting.
303
00:15:00,857 --> 00:15:03,857
…would be wading into unfamiliar waters.
304
00:15:03,943 --> 00:15:06,783
I read the script and I thought,
305
00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:10,033
"Gee, you know,
I'm gonna have to do a sex scene."
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00:15:10,116 --> 00:15:13,947
And the second thing was,
"There's gonna be an ax."
307
00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:16,207
Taking a hack at such material…
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00:15:16,289 --> 00:15:17,460
"No."
309
00:15:17,541 --> 00:15:22,250
…wasn't exactly the career choice this
cultured ingénue felt confident about.
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00:15:22,337 --> 00:15:26,008
I've gotta do this embarrassing,
naughty stuff.
311
00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:27,431
But after meeting Sean…
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He put me at ease.
313
00:15:28,969 --> 00:15:30,719
Which made her decision…
Okay.
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00:15:30,803 --> 00:15:32,813
…easier.
All right, why not?
315
00:15:32,889 --> 00:15:33,889
And besides…
316
00:15:33,932 --> 00:15:38,852
I thought, "Well, doesn't really matter.
No one's gonna see it."
317
00:15:40,063 --> 00:15:43,234
But Jeannine's on-screen sizzle
would need bacon.
318
00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:44,527
Kevin Bacon, of course.
319
00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:45,649
Who?
320
00:15:45,735 --> 00:15:46,895
Kevin Bacon?
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00:15:48,989 --> 00:15:49,908
You know…
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00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,080
Kevin Bacon!
323
00:15:52,158 --> 00:15:54,749
Having worked in theater,
well, who hadn't?
324
00:15:54,827 --> 00:15:57,788
Kevin Bacon had
a few on-screen credits to his name.
325
00:15:57,873 --> 00:15:59,793
All is well!
326
00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:04,085
And he was happy to get a job,
and I was happy to hire him.
327
00:16:04,171 --> 00:16:07,681
But they'd need way more
teenagers to kill than just three.
328
00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:11,798
Here's another one with
an appropriately irrelevant backstory.
329
00:16:11,886 --> 00:16:14,466
I went to London Academy
of Music and Dramatic Arts.
330
00:16:14,556 --> 00:16:18,556
Kind of theatrical study.
And music, which I loved.
331
00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:22,063
And also on his résumé…
I'm named after a singer.
332
00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:23,976
Who?
You, Daddy.
333
00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,895
He is Bing Crosby's son.
334
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:27,485
"You, Daddy."
335
00:16:27,568 --> 00:16:30,408
A lovely, nice, young man.
336
00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:33,698
Whose on-screen death
would be the opposite of lovely and nice.
337
00:16:34,951 --> 00:16:38,581
But Harry wasn't the only cast member
with a showbiz family.
338
00:16:38,663 --> 00:16:40,923
No.
Take Peter Brouwer, for instance.
339
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,919
He was married
to my longtime assistant, Cindy Brouwer.
340
00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:47,634
While being married
to the director's assistant
341
00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:48,754
got Brouwer the audition,
342
00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:51,681
it was something else
that convinced Cunningham to cast him.
343
00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,929
Cindy would've quit if I didn't cast him,
so it was pretty simple.
344
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,224
Well, what do I owe you?
345
00:16:56,764 --> 00:16:59,475
Just a night on the town, Steve.
346
00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,899
And, along with Mark Nelson,
Laurie Bartram, and Adrienne King…
347
00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:05,570
This one survives.
Yeah.
348
00:17:05,648 --> 00:17:07,528
Sean had his cast of teenagers.
349
00:17:07,608 --> 00:17:10,278
But finding
theatrically trained young actors
350
00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:12,571
looking for a big break is one thing.
351
00:17:12,655 --> 00:17:15,486
When you've had a dream
as long as I have, you'll do anything.
352
00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:17,536
But for this movie to really work…
353
00:17:17,618 --> 00:17:20,959
The whole movie is gonna turn
on us discovering
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00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:24,630
this person who
you would want to trust at first.
355
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:27,670
Well, I... I'm Mrs. Voorhees,
an old friend of the Christys.
356
00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,375
She was more than that.
357
00:17:29,464 --> 00:17:31,835
One of the most trusted women in America.
358
00:17:31,924 --> 00:17:34,134
Or at least someone who once was.
359
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,930
Who?
It's Betsy Palmer.
360
00:17:37,013 --> 00:17:39,733
And upon getting a script to this icon…
361
00:17:39,807 --> 00:17:42,268
I read it and I said,
"What a piece of shit."
362
00:17:43,311 --> 00:17:46,771
The same description that
could be given to her car at the time.
363
00:17:46,856 --> 00:17:48,477
She needed money for a new car.
364
00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:51,146
She took the gig
just because her car broke down.
365
00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:54,405
Besides, Betsy thought
what everyone thought.
366
00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:57,200
It's probably not gonna go anywhere.
367
00:17:57,284 --> 00:17:59,243
"Nobody is going to see this thing."
368
00:17:59,327 --> 00:18:00,657
"And I'll have a new car."
369
00:18:01,163 --> 00:18:04,083
But when it came
to trusted faces behind the scenes,
370
00:18:04,165 --> 00:18:08,546
well, as always, Sean used the crew
that he'd been trusting for years.
371
00:18:08,628 --> 00:18:11,259
Like production designer, Virginia Field.
372
00:18:11,339 --> 00:18:14,470
We had to create a place that felt safe
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00:18:14,550 --> 00:18:16,510
and warm and welcoming
374
00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:19,674
in order for what happens later
to be so scary.
375
00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:21,674
Finding a camp in New Jersey,
376
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,057
Virginia got to work,
prepping the location.
377
00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:26,773
I really like set dressings,
so there's a lot of detail.
378
00:18:26,855 --> 00:18:30,394
And I kept the use of red
in the film fairly constant.
379
00:18:30,483 --> 00:18:33,743
That was my way
to try to underline the danger.
380
00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:36,621
But as shooting began
in a matter of weeks,
381
00:18:36,698 --> 00:18:39,907
the real danger
weren't these flourishes of red.
382
00:18:39,992 --> 00:18:41,042
Bill!
383
00:18:41,577 --> 00:18:44,458
We'd been out there for about two weeks.
We'd already built the building
384
00:18:44,539 --> 00:18:46,380
that's the shower-toilet room.
385
00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:49,167
So, along one side of the wall,
there were the sinks.
386
00:18:49,252 --> 00:18:52,762
On the other side of the wall, toilets,
only one of which was practical.
387
00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:55,220
Come on. You can do better than that.
388
00:18:55,299 --> 00:18:57,470
We'd done quite a bit
of building and painting.
389
00:18:57,552 --> 00:19:00,262
And then…
And then, Sean called and said…
390
00:19:00,346 --> 00:19:01,636
Um…
391
00:19:03,307 --> 00:19:07,728
"Sorry. We don't have enough money.
You have to leave and close up shop."
392
00:19:08,396 --> 00:19:10,436
Close up shop? But the formula.
393
00:19:10,523 --> 00:19:13,943
And the other formula.
And the classically trained actors.
394
00:19:14,027 --> 00:19:17,567
Well, it turns out that Sean
was starting to have some regrets
395
00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:20,115
about getting into bed
with Phil from Boston…
396
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,700
Yo, yo, yo, where are you going?
397
00:19:21,785 --> 00:19:24,865
…who'd now changed his mind
about their initial deal.
398
00:19:24,954 --> 00:19:27,914
He's decided
he wants to put up all the money.
399
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,670
Five hundred thousand dollars.
400
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:33,300
Sean was worried that would put
a limit on the film's profit.
401
00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:37,220
I said, "I can't do that. I'm sorry.
I guess it's just not gonna happen."
402
00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,300
Flushing all that good work
down the toilets.
403
00:19:40,386 --> 00:19:41,926
And they were not working toilets.
404
00:19:42,013 --> 00:19:44,433
It looked like Friday the 13th was over.
405
00:19:44,516 --> 00:19:47,846
And I was sort of heartbroken,
but this is my third film with him,
406
00:19:47,935 --> 00:19:49,855
and every time
we didn't have enough money.
407
00:19:49,938 --> 00:19:52,317
No, I had a lot of faith in him,
I really did.
408
00:19:52,398 --> 00:19:56,068
A pressure that was
continually bearing down on Sean,
409
00:19:56,153 --> 00:19:58,573
who now lost all his financing.
410
00:19:58,654 --> 00:20:02,615
We were getting pretty far down the line.
It was probably late August at this point.
411
00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:05,580
And I'm surrounded by a bunch
of people that are depending on me
412
00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,541
to make this thing happen.
413
00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:10,502
And I remember early that morning,
414
00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:12,753
I got up and I went
jogging around, I don't know,
415
00:20:12,836 --> 00:20:14,435
five-thirty, six o'clock in the morning,
416
00:20:14,462 --> 00:20:17,012
and I'm jogging, thinking,
jogging, thinking.
417
00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:19,380
I come back and I picked up the phone.
418
00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:22,298
It's about quarter to seven.
I call him up, I said, "Phil…"
419
00:20:22,386 --> 00:20:24,217
"I thought about it. I changed my mind."
420
00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:26,726
"You know, you still want to do it,
we'll do it."
421
00:20:26,807 --> 00:20:30,188
Would Phil Scuderi,
the godfather of Esquire Movies,
422
00:20:30,269 --> 00:20:33,269
pony up the cash,
or was the damage done?
423
00:20:33,356 --> 00:20:35,817
He says, "I was just on my way
424
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:38,820
to put that money
in a shopping center, but all right."
425
00:20:38,903 --> 00:20:40,413
"We'll make the movie."
426
00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:42,278
They're opening that place again?
427
00:20:42,365 --> 00:20:44,426
There was another phone call,
and we were back at it.
428
00:20:44,451 --> 00:20:47,451
Just like Virginia knew they would be.
That's right.
429
00:20:47,537 --> 00:20:50,747
I didn't take sets down.
I left up what was already up.
430
00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:53,672
However, the relief
was somewhat short-lived.
431
00:20:53,751 --> 00:20:55,632
Emphasis on "relief."
432
00:20:55,711 --> 00:21:00,182
We came back to the set and we're going
to the cabin, there's Virginia and Sean,
433
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:03,259
and maybe couple of other people
standing around, shaking their heads.
434
00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:06,464
And they're having a quiet
but intense conversation.
435
00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,766
And Tom and I walked up.
436
00:21:08,474 --> 00:21:10,805
We said, "You know,
what are we waiting for?"
437
00:21:10,894 --> 00:21:12,233
And Virginia said…
438
00:21:12,311 --> 00:21:15,192
Somebody had come along
and used the toilets.
439
00:21:16,191 --> 00:21:17,691
And they were not working toilets.
440
00:21:22,405 --> 00:21:26,736
It was up to Virginia
and the art department to clean that up.
441
00:21:26,826 --> 00:21:28,787
That's when you're glad
you have assistants.
442
00:21:30,247 --> 00:21:33,076
They were all relieved
just to have a script.
443
00:21:33,165 --> 00:21:35,746
They did have a script, didn't they?
Come on, let's go.
444
00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:38,205
Nah, not so much, you know?
445
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:42,007
Well, to be fair,
they did have a script, but…
446
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:44,511
There's barely a story
and there's barely a character.
447
00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:47,013
There's not very much,
besides a little bit of tension.
448
00:21:47,096 --> 00:21:48,886
Then, what's the point of all this?
449
00:21:48,973 --> 00:21:52,604
But there's kills, and so you end up
just waiting for the kills.
450
00:21:52,685 --> 00:21:55,395
Well, it was a kind of sentiment
451
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,650
that was relevant
to the way they shot the movie as well,
452
00:21:58,733 --> 00:22:02,203
which began on September the 4th, 1979.
453
00:22:02,278 --> 00:22:03,659
The first day we were shooting.
454
00:22:03,739 --> 00:22:06,199
We were just kind of doing
all those walking scenes.
455
00:22:06,282 --> 00:22:10,663
And so I had my backpack on
and Sean said, "Okay, Robbi, um…"
456
00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,455
Um, Sean? Any ideas?
457
00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:17,786
Well, the notion of being a film director,
458
00:22:17,877 --> 00:22:20,167
the world thinks
it's somebody who comes out
459
00:22:20,255 --> 00:22:22,964
and looks at what
other people present for them.
460
00:22:23,049 --> 00:22:26,180
And he's there with his arms crossed,
making judgments.
461
00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:28,810
But not director Sean Cunningham.
462
00:22:28,888 --> 00:22:31,679
It was the kind of thing
where Sean said, "Taso."
463
00:22:31,767 --> 00:22:33,017
Yeah, here we go.
464
00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:34,770
"You're gonna drive the jeep." -…
465
00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:37,653
The special effects guy?
Are you crazy?
466
00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:40,570
In the moment, very loose like that.
467
00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:44,279
The jeep had almost zero steering,
but I was sweating that one out.
468
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:49,910
Steering to a loose script,
the ideas on set were flowing free.
469
00:22:49,992 --> 00:22:54,333
They were like, "Boy, it would be great
if she could jump out of the jeep."
470
00:22:54,413 --> 00:22:56,124
"I could jump out of the jeep."
471
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,304
I did it.
472
00:23:00,378 --> 00:23:02,009
The things we do for our art.
473
00:23:02,088 --> 00:23:06,548
Having survived that stunt,
it was now time for Robbi to die
474
00:23:06,634 --> 00:23:08,095
in a gruesome manner.
475
00:23:08,178 --> 00:23:09,718
You'll never come back again.
476
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:10,964
Shut up.
477
00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:13,476
Okay, we're gonna run
Robbi Morgan through the woods.
478
00:23:13,557 --> 00:23:15,557
An excellent start to a death scene.
479
00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:18,364
"Let's kinda, like, walk out here."
And then?
480
00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:20,317
Sean was saying, you know,
"Robbi, trip."
481
00:23:21,232 --> 00:23:22,363
"Robbi, fall."
482
00:23:22,942 --> 00:23:25,573
All improv.
And then?
483
00:23:25,653 --> 00:23:28,034
I don't know, what could you do?
What do we see?
484
00:23:28,115 --> 00:23:31,404
Well, what's the script say?
"Annie has her throat cut."
485
00:23:31,492 --> 00:23:33,952
So, Tom and Taso cooked up the details.
486
00:23:34,037 --> 00:23:38,576
We had a room just off the kitchen
which became our shop, which was great.
487
00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:41,747
I know when we killed Robbi Morgan,
it was late in the afternoon.
488
00:23:41,836 --> 00:23:43,047
The sun was coming down.
489
00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,259
Sean really wanted
to get that effect done.
490
00:23:45,339 --> 00:23:46,720
And he said to me,
491
00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,390
"Look, it's four o'clock,
the sun's going down."
492
00:23:49,469 --> 00:23:52,638
"How long is it gonna take you
to rig her up?" I said, "Half an hour."
493
00:23:52,721 --> 00:23:54,352
Wish I had more time to do it.
494
00:23:54,432 --> 00:23:57,982
But Robbi got on the back of my
motorcycle. I drove her to the workshop.
495
00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:01,520
Taso and I put the appliance on
and copper tubing for the blood.
496
00:24:01,605 --> 00:24:04,816
So primitive, okay?
And I had her back at 4:30.
497
00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:07,111
They put the piece on my neck.
498
00:24:07,194 --> 00:24:11,734
You glue it on and you paint it.
Nobody knows it's there until the effect.
499
00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:14,194
But who would do the killing?
Taso.
500
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:15,536
Of course.
Yep.
501
00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:17,410
Where would the murder take place?
502
00:24:17,497 --> 00:24:21,707
"Let's, let's do it against this tree.
Taso, get the knife."
503
00:24:22,751 --> 00:24:24,461
It was all very quick like that.
504
00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:28,006
And I slashed her throat and
all she had to do was tip her chin back,
505
00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:30,840
and it would open up like a gaping wound.
506
00:24:30,926 --> 00:24:33,136
There was a moment
before the blood comes out.
507
00:24:36,766 --> 00:24:38,726
There she goes.
508
00:24:38,809 --> 00:24:39,640
It's a doozy.
509
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:42,397
Next up, it was Jeannine Taylor's turn.
510
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,030
But it wasn't her grisly on-screen death
she was worried about.
511
00:24:46,108 --> 00:24:49,358
I was dreading the sex scene,
just dreading it.
512
00:24:49,445 --> 00:24:51,486
Sex all you ever think about, Ned?
Hey. No.
513
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:54,333
Flummoxed by this young actor's inability
514
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:57,749
to easily do the most
difficult scene of her life,
515
00:24:57,828 --> 00:25:00,169
it was Kevin who saved Jeannine's bacon.
516
00:25:00,248 --> 00:25:03,127
Took me by the hand, said,
"Here, let's take a little walk."
517
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,339
Got us into a little shed and he said,
518
00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:10,010
"Here, I'm gonna toke up a little bit.
Do you want some?"
519
00:25:10,090 --> 00:25:13,050
Why don't you see
if Marcie left any of that grass?
520
00:25:13,135 --> 00:25:17,425
So, I did. I had two
or three tokes of a large joint.
521
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,346
And before she knew it,
Jeannine was hungry.
522
00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:24,271
She had the munchies for love.
On-screen love, that is.
523
00:25:24,355 --> 00:25:25,976
And it did take the edge off.
524
00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:29,234
But anyway, what was she worried about?
525
00:25:29,318 --> 00:25:31,909
Doesn't really matter.
Exactly.
526
00:25:31,988 --> 00:25:33,567
No one's ever gonna see it.
527
00:25:33,656 --> 00:25:37,737
But, just in case they did,
they were about to see quite an eyeful.
528
00:25:37,826 --> 00:25:39,826
And then, she has to pee.
529
00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:41,962
I gotta pee. You're lying on my bladder.
530
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:46,339
So, she gets up
and Kevin rolls over in bed, and…
531
00:25:49,088 --> 00:25:50,969
Where did that come from?
532
00:25:51,048 --> 00:25:54,259
No one has ever seen an arrow come…
you know, from the back.
533
00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:57,933
From the front, sure.
And Tom was the one who'd done it.
534
00:25:58,013 --> 00:25:59,683
We're gonna do it, but do it backwards.
535
00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:02,185
Do it the opposite.
Coming from the back to the front.
536
00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:04,769
But for Kevin Bacon,
it was more top to bottom.
537
00:26:04,854 --> 00:26:08,324
From here down is a plaster chest.
538
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,950
Once the arrow pierces
through the latex rubber,
539
00:26:12,028 --> 00:26:15,867
there's a hole and there's no going back.
You can't do it twice.
540
00:26:15,949 --> 00:26:19,328
But this is the master of gore.
He'd only need one shot.
541
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,871
I was the king of gore.
542
00:26:20,953 --> 00:26:22,253
The wizard of splatter.
543
00:26:22,329 --> 00:26:24,710
All right, calm down. But as it turns out,
544
00:26:24,790 --> 00:26:27,790
he was also the executive
of extinguishment.
545
00:26:27,876 --> 00:26:30,957
Tom had this gigantic
brass fire extinguisher.
546
00:26:31,047 --> 00:26:33,757
But instead of life-saving fire retardant…
547
00:26:33,842 --> 00:26:36,852
We unscrewed it and filled it
with blood for the blood pump.
548
00:26:36,927 --> 00:26:40,268
I was pushing the arrow
through the fake body.
549
00:26:40,347 --> 00:26:43,268
And I pumped fiercely
with the brass blood pump.
550
00:26:43,351 --> 00:26:44,691
Well, the first pump,
551
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:49,148
the tubing shot off and I'm kneeling
in a huge puddle of blood under the bed.
552
00:26:49,231 --> 00:26:51,112
Sean says, "Where's the blood? No blood."
553
00:26:51,192 --> 00:26:53,951
I grabbed the tubing and I stuck it
in my mouth and I blew…
554
00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:59,447
…like that, and so,
now you get arterial spray.
555
00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:03,044
And that's what made... Blood just was
gurgling out of him, you know.
556
00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:05,211
Right. But speaking of gurgling…
557
00:27:05,289 --> 00:27:08,339
And then I ran down to the lake
and washed my mouth out,
558
00:27:08,417 --> 00:27:11,377
because part of the formula's
Kodak Photo-Flo,
559
00:27:11,462 --> 00:27:13,803
which is some kind of chemical poison.
560
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:16,471
Yeah, well, at least
you didn't get any in your eyes.
561
00:27:16,550 --> 00:27:18,971
That's right.
Anyway, on to the next death.
562
00:27:19,054 --> 00:27:20,814
Must be my imagination.
563
00:27:20,888 --> 00:27:23,348
This is insanely creepy.
564
00:27:23,432 --> 00:27:26,232
Well, in that case,
maybe we'll come back to this one.
565
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:30,111
And besides, they were shooting things
other than just death scenes.
566
00:27:30,190 --> 00:27:33,069
I know what we can do.
We're going to play Monopoly.
567
00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:34,901
See? The Monopoly scene.
568
00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:38,695
That's what happens when you're just
running out of ideas for a scene.
569
00:27:38,781 --> 00:27:40,622
You have got to be kidding.
570
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,410
And you've got to have kids say something.
571
00:27:43,494 --> 00:27:46,914
Before you kill them. Right.
Okay. Point taken. Now, where were we?
572
00:27:49,041 --> 00:27:50,791
It's funny.
You know, so, my death scene,
573
00:27:50,876 --> 00:27:53,416
we really kept Adrienne off the set.
574
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:56,126
She freaked. That was genuine.
575
00:27:56,215 --> 00:27:58,256
And a genuine Savini masterpiece.
576
00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:01,393
I created the metal piece
that went over his head,
577
00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,310
so the arrow would stick out.
Tom may have created it…
578
00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:06,810
I wasn't there when they shot it.
579
00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:10,192
I had to go home for a weekend.
Girlfriend problem, okay.
580
00:28:10,270 --> 00:28:11,441
Give me another chance.
581
00:28:11,522 --> 00:28:14,692
I guess it was Taso pumping the blood.
582
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:16,145
And I pumped fiercely.
583
00:28:16,236 --> 00:28:19,486
So blood was constantly
flowing out of the eye.
584
00:28:19,571 --> 00:28:22,622
Out of and into Harry's eye.
585
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:26,411
The liquid was actually
between the latex and the... And my eye.
586
00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:30,248
When the shooting was over
and they ripped the latex off,
587
00:28:30,333 --> 00:28:34,052
my eye just started
to completely melt down.
588
00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:36,720
I couldn't see anything.
589
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,010
That's serious.
590
00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:40,301
I was scared to death.
591
00:28:41,635 --> 00:28:43,296
They took me to the local hospital
592
00:28:43,387 --> 00:28:48,478
and they put a light on me
to see about pupil contracting and stuff.
593
00:28:49,059 --> 00:28:50,059
And,
594
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:51,690
I didn't see the light.
595
00:28:52,313 --> 00:28:54,863
And he wouldn't for about six months.
596
00:28:55,983 --> 00:28:57,993
… Show business.
597
00:28:58,068 --> 00:29:01,239
Harry regained full vision in his eye and…
598
00:29:01,321 --> 00:29:03,122
Today, when you buy eye blood,
599
00:29:03,199 --> 00:29:05,699
it's perfectly safe,
it doesn't have that stuff in it.
600
00:29:05,785 --> 00:29:07,365
Well, we didn't know that back then.
601
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:10,288
Now, speaking of things we didn't know,
602
00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:12,212
as they approached the end of shooting,
603
00:29:12,291 --> 00:29:15,092
the great twist
of the ending revealed itself…
604
00:29:16,086 --> 00:29:17,957
in the form of Betsy Palmer…
605
00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:19,297
I'm Mrs. Voorhees.
606
00:29:19,382 --> 00:29:23,092
…who arrived on set,
possibly in a deeply unimpressive car.
607
00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:27,057
She came in and she was like,
"What the fuck? This and this and that."
608
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,930
Betsy Palmer swore like a sailor.
609
00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:33,978
"Yeah, I smoke, but only the pot
that I grow myself in the greenhouse."
610
00:29:34,063 --> 00:29:36,192
"Not this shit off the street."
611
00:29:36,273 --> 00:29:39,284
Well, being off her head
was surprisingly relevant
612
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,279
to what Tom and Taso had planned.
613
00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:44,072
Kill her, Mommy. Kill her.
614
00:29:44,156 --> 00:29:45,487
We're gonna decapitate her.
615
00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:49,154
Which wouldn't just be the end
of the villainous Mrs. Voorhees.
616
00:29:49,244 --> 00:29:51,704
It would also be a wrap for Tom and Taso,
617
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:56,000
for what would be the very final
special effect of the movie.
618
00:29:56,085 --> 00:29:59,085
So, what we came up with
was that it wasn't going to be her.
619
00:29:59,672 --> 00:30:03,592
We would use her until the moment
and then we'd swap her for a stunt double.
620
00:30:03,675 --> 00:30:07,925
A stunt double? Well, finally
something Taso didn't have to do.
621
00:30:08,013 --> 00:30:09,223
Who was me.
Of course.
622
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:13,186
Tom mounted
the plaster shoulders and the head.
623
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:16,608
Taso was wearing it on his shoulders
with his head way down.
624
00:30:19,608 --> 00:30:21,568
And I attached it with toothpicks.
625
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,452
So, it was there precariously.
626
00:30:23,529 --> 00:30:26,740
And it was me that swung the machete,
because I knew where to hit it.
627
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,865
It couldn't have gone better,
except for the hairy knuckles.
628
00:30:30,452 --> 00:30:33,792
Which, I don't know, again,
nobody thought about that.
629
00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:37,173
Picking himself up
and removing his severed neck nub
630
00:30:37,251 --> 00:30:38,801
and his lovely blue sweater,
631
00:30:38,877 --> 00:30:40,587
Taso and Tom hit the road…
632
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:41,511
We were done.
633
00:30:41,588 --> 00:30:43,548
…leaving Sean and the rest of the crew
634
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:46,932
to shoot the fight scene
that led up to the decapitation.
635
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:49,560
Yes, we had this… fight.
636
00:30:49,638 --> 00:30:52,729
Well, I remember
Taso and I were leaving to go home.
637
00:30:52,808 --> 00:30:55,598
Not for long.
They were on the side of the hill
638
00:30:55,686 --> 00:30:57,856
shooting the fight,
and we stopped to watch.
639
00:30:57,939 --> 00:31:00,318
And she takes the knife out and she just…
640
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:03,355
And, um, it wasn't going well.
641
00:31:03,443 --> 00:31:08,163
"My God. What are…
What are we going to do?"
642
00:31:08,907 --> 00:31:11,038
So, you know, Taso and I are…
643
00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:15,500
We're members of
the Society of British Fight Directors.
644
00:31:15,582 --> 00:31:20,801
We took our test together.
I was Zorro and he was the commandant.
645
00:31:20,878 --> 00:31:25,429
So, Zorro and the commandant
heroically swooped in and saved the day.
646
00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:26,718
They break the oar.
647
00:31:27,676 --> 00:31:30,096
And she uses it to try to stab her.
648
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,808
And it worked out perfectly.
649
00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:38,228
So, yeah, I thought
it was a pretty good fight.
650
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:41,522
Which then concluded shooting
for Friday the 13th.
651
00:31:41,607 --> 00:31:42,938
And they all wrapped.
652
00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:45,816
The script ended
in kind of a traditional way…
653
00:31:46,362 --> 00:31:49,741
where the heroine
has finally become victorious,
654
00:31:49,824 --> 00:31:53,794
and she's covered in blood and it's sad,
and we see the lake and…
655
00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:58,462
That was the ending such as it was
for the material that we had.
656
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:00,671
But there, lurking in the lake,
657
00:32:00,751 --> 00:32:03,382
but not sleeping with the fishes,
was not Jason,
658
00:32:03,462 --> 00:32:05,093
but Phil, the money man,
659
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,593
who'd been largely silent during filming.
660
00:32:07,674 --> 00:32:09,295
He was never on set, but…
661
00:32:09,384 --> 00:32:12,424
Now had some opinions to share.
…kept saying, "Yeah, we gotta have
662
00:32:12,512 --> 00:32:14,032
one of those Carrie endings,
you know?"
663
00:32:15,474 --> 00:32:18,305
The hand comes out of the grave.
Well, they couldn't do that.
664
00:32:18,394 --> 00:32:19,983
So, instead, Tom had an idea.
665
00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:22,232
I said to Sean,
"Why can't we make Jason come back?"
666
00:32:22,315 --> 00:32:24,184
"What if, like, she's in this boat…
667
00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:27,574
and Jason comes up out of the water?"
668
00:32:28,237 --> 00:32:31,027
I said, "That's the stupidest thing
I ever heard of."
669
00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:33,325
We ain't gonna stand
for no weirdness out here.
670
00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:35,449
That's got nothing to do
with the rest of the movie.
671
00:32:35,536 --> 00:32:37,786
How could we do that?
He says, "It'd be great."
672
00:32:37,872 --> 00:32:42,092
And so, to create this one
last effect for Phil, Tom turned to Bill.
673
00:32:42,167 --> 00:32:45,508
I kept thinking about this guy
when I was a kid, Bill Bailey.
674
00:32:45,587 --> 00:32:49,798
He had one ear lower than the other
and his eye was kinda messed up.
675
00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:51,644
And Sean loved it, you know?
676
00:32:51,719 --> 00:32:53,048
What's not to love?
677
00:32:53,136 --> 00:32:55,557
And for the lucky actor who got this gig,
678
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,809
Sean dredged up one of the little orphans
from Manny's Orphans
679
00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:02,653
to turn into this
ghastly-headed lake dweller.
680
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:04,900
And I'll tell you what, man. He nailed it.
681
00:33:04,982 --> 00:33:06,782
Must be my animal appeal.
682
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:10,529
And in many ways,
683
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:15,163
this scene unlocked the potential
for many more Friday the 13ths to come.
684
00:33:15,242 --> 00:33:17,123
For Sean, it was really more about…
685
00:33:17,202 --> 00:33:20,373
Is she dead? What happened?
…tying up loose ends of the story.
686
00:33:20,455 --> 00:33:23,915
So, I came up with the notion
of cutting to her in the hospital.
687
00:33:25,127 --> 00:33:27,458
And she says something about the boy.
688
00:33:27,547 --> 00:33:28,717
Is he dead, too?
689
00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:31,218
The cop's line was, "Boy, ma'am?"
690
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:33,138
We didn't find any boy.
691
00:33:36,596 --> 00:33:39,096
You know, it was like,
"What the hell is that?"
692
00:33:39,683 --> 00:33:41,894
It's actually the end
of shooting, that's what.
693
00:33:41,978 --> 00:33:45,478
And after just less than a month,
they all went home,
694
00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:49,105
leaving Sean to work out
how to edit a movie.
695
00:33:50,193 --> 00:33:52,574
You shot all this film,
and you go to the cutting room,
696
00:33:52,654 --> 00:33:54,315
and you're trying to put it together,
697
00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:56,808
and you're trying to figure out,
why doesn't it go together?
698
00:33:56,867 --> 00:34:01,577
So, for help, Sean turned
to the guy who used to live down the hall.
699
00:34:01,663 --> 00:34:04,794
My friend, Wes Craven,
I asked him to come to the rough cut.
700
00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:08,206
And he said, "This thing's
not gonna work. It's so slow."
701
00:34:11,507 --> 00:34:12,507
"And boring."
702
00:34:19,431 --> 00:34:21,181
Leaving Sean flummoxed.
703
00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:23,766
Why doesn't it go together better?
Well, to be fair…
704
00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:25,893
We were all kind of flying
by the seat of our pants.
705
00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:28,568
But as always, Sean kept his composure.
706
00:34:28,648 --> 00:34:30,108
Don't worry, we'll figure it out.
707
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:32,652
And it was his composure
that saved the day.
708
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:35,407
No. Sorry. It was the composer.
709
00:34:35,489 --> 00:34:37,869
And we were having dinner at his house,
710
00:34:37,949 --> 00:34:39,829
and he looks at me and he says,
711
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:44,291
"I'm gonna make the scariest movie
ever made and you're gonna score it."
712
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:48,922
I never had such conversation in my life.
Who would have told you that?
713
00:34:49,003 --> 00:34:51,382
Harry said it.
In that case, it's true.
714
00:34:51,463 --> 00:34:54,184
And like all of Sean's past collaborators…
715
00:34:54,257 --> 00:34:55,717
I'm not a big horror fan.
716
00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:58,722
The first time I saw the picture,
I was just…
717
00:34:58,804 --> 00:35:00,635
I'm the messenger of God.
718
00:35:01,181 --> 00:35:04,311
"What the heck is this?"
His problem, that's what.
719
00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:08,273
How do I tell the audience
that this is not the cameraman
720
00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:10,476
just wandering around through the woods?
721
00:35:10,565 --> 00:35:11,775
And Taso…
722
00:35:11,858 --> 00:35:13,188
It's the killer.
723
00:35:14,487 --> 00:35:16,527
But Harry hatched a plan.
724
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:20,414
Only the killer is going to have music,
whenever the killer is present.
725
00:35:20,492 --> 00:35:22,833
And when the killer wasn't present?
726
00:35:22,911 --> 00:35:25,581
There are long stretches of silence.
727
00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:32,954
I needed something
that made it really obvious
728
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:36,757
this is the killer,
and I had to do it in that amount of time.
729
00:35:36,842 --> 00:35:40,393
And Harry found inspiration
in the killer herself.
730
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:44,181
So, when Betsy Palmer is revealed…
731
00:35:44,266 --> 00:35:46,806
Kill her, Mommy. Kill her.
732
00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:49,936
And I'm going, like, "She hears voices."
733
00:35:50,021 --> 00:35:52,072
One specific voice, to be fair.
734
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,900
So, I took "K-I" from "Kill."
735
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:56,856
Kill her.
736
00:35:56,945 --> 00:35:58,815
And "M-A" from "Mommy."
737
00:35:58,905 --> 00:35:59,905
Kill her, Mommy.
738
00:36:00,365 --> 00:36:03,945
And I went up to the microphone,
and I just went…
739
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,168
Ki! Ma!
740
00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:09,708
And with that new killer score…
741
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,842
Holy shit! This might really have worked.
Who'd a thunk it?
742
00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:21,599
It was magic.
Well, let's hope so, because…
743
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:26,429
My guy from Boston wants
to screen it for a friend of his.
744
00:36:26,516 --> 00:36:28,686
This very handsome stud.
745
00:36:28,768 --> 00:36:31,978
No, no, no, no. At Paramount.
746
00:36:32,063 --> 00:36:34,153
With a legitimate shot at distribution,
747
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:37,112
assistant editor Jay Keuper
gathered the reels.
748
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,445
The film was boxed up, I took it over.
749
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,280
And awaited news of the screening.
750
00:36:41,364 --> 00:36:43,074
Sean called me and said,
751
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,949
"The last reel of the film
never made it to the screening."
752
00:36:47,621 --> 00:36:49,371
So they couldn't see the end of the film.
753
00:36:49,956 --> 00:36:52,286
You know, I mean, what are you gonna do?
754
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:55,545
Well, not buy
and distribute it, maybe? But hang on.
755
00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:59,630
Paramount must have been
impressed enough with the first nine reels
756
00:36:59,717 --> 00:37:04,056
that they were able to watch it
one more time to see how the film ended.
757
00:37:04,137 --> 00:37:07,018
And boy, did they like that.
758
00:37:07,099 --> 00:37:09,559
Especially at the very end,
when Jason comes out of the lake.
759
00:37:11,311 --> 00:37:13,692
They were shaking their head.
They had such a good time.
760
00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:15,152
And Paramount decided…
761
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,612
To take this movie
with no stars and no real plot…
762
00:37:18,693 --> 00:37:20,914
And release it nationally.
763
00:37:20,987 --> 00:37:22,947
At, like, a thousand theaters.
764
00:37:23,032 --> 00:37:26,371
Which is impressive,
compared to Friday the 13th's,
765
00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:30,751
shall we say, inspiration,
which only premiered in one.
766
00:37:31,373 --> 00:37:34,043
When we started, if we had a big hit,
767
00:37:34,126 --> 00:37:40,166
we were thinking maybe 50 theaters,
but never a national opening.
768
00:37:40,257 --> 00:37:43,717
The kind of thing indie filmmakers
can only dream about.
769
00:37:43,802 --> 00:37:45,012
Great! Let's go for it!
770
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:47,596
Friday the 13th, rated R.
771
00:37:48,807 --> 00:37:51,887
The film hit theaters on May 9th, 1980.
772
00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:56,108
But seemingly right out the gate,
the film was caught in controversy.
773
00:37:56,190 --> 00:38:00,989
The critics took aim
at the sex and the violence, the gore.
774
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:04,320
This is yet another film
connecting sex with violence.
775
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:08,786
Gene Siskel even published
Betsy Palmer's home address.
776
00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:12,369
Urging fans to write to her
to tell her how they feel.
777
00:38:13,206 --> 00:38:14,626
I'm not afraid.
778
00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,539
But Jeannine was afraid
779
00:38:16,626 --> 00:38:19,206
that her initial misgivings
about taking the role
780
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,336
of "Scream Queen" were well-founded.
781
00:38:21,423 --> 00:38:25,804
That did not go over well with
a lot of the people I knew in New York
782
00:38:25,885 --> 00:38:28,846
who were interested in my career.
783
00:38:28,931 --> 00:38:33,271
Saying, "You were in that?"
Shaking their heads.
784
00:38:33,351 --> 00:38:37,271
And though neither the critics
or the New York theater establishment
785
00:38:37,356 --> 00:38:39,565
were impressed with Friday the 13th,
786
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:42,030
it seemed that audiences were,
787
00:38:42,610 --> 00:38:47,371
because the movie made $5.8 million
on its first weekend,
788
00:38:47,449 --> 00:38:50,489
more than ten times Phil's 500 grand.
789
00:38:50,577 --> 00:38:52,577
It was just like, "Holy smoke!"
790
00:38:52,663 --> 00:38:54,963
We're waiting in the lobby
to go in the theater,
791
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:57,460
and we hear everybody
scream their lungs out
792
00:38:57,543 --> 00:38:59,882
when Jason came out the water.
That was a big thrill.
793
00:38:59,961 --> 00:39:04,012
Audiences couldn't get enough
of the scary summer camp romp.
794
00:39:04,090 --> 00:39:10,010
Friday the 13th struck a chord.
Sean was absolutely right.
795
00:39:10,097 --> 00:39:15,266
Over the course of its run,
the movie pulled in nearly $60 million,
796
00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:20,652
placing it squarely among the top five
most profitable horror movies of all time.
797
00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,862
It became the movie that
everybody wanted to see, you know?
798
00:39:23,943 --> 00:39:27,534
I knew that I had been very lucky,
and I was grateful for it.
799
00:39:27,614 --> 00:39:29,405
All the major studios,
800
00:39:29,492 --> 00:39:32,702
eager to work
with this despicable filmmaker,
801
00:39:32,786 --> 00:39:35,746
began asking him
what he wanted to do next.
802
00:39:35,831 --> 00:39:37,541
"I'd love to do a musical."
803
00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:41,704
Yeah. Yeah, maybe.
Or maybe something else?
804
00:39:41,795 --> 00:39:43,166
Paramount wanted to do a sequel.
805
00:39:43,255 --> 00:39:45,045
Yeah, right, because of the bubbles.
806
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:49,552
From that point on, with all the sequels,
you get Jason, which is a whole nother…
807
00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:51,056
Hockey player?
…monster.
808
00:39:51,137 --> 00:39:53,717
But there's something
different about Jason.
809
00:39:53,807 --> 00:39:55,387
He had a growth spurt, apparently.
810
00:39:56,059 --> 00:39:57,309
No, that's not it.
811
00:39:57,394 --> 00:40:00,264
It's not until Friday the 13th Part III
812
00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:03,025
where we get the Jason
that we associate with the most,
813
00:40:03,108 --> 00:40:04,318
who's got the hockey mask.
814
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,032
There he is.
815
00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,282
I had nothing to do with the hockey mask.
816
00:40:08,364 --> 00:40:13,293
The franchise did though,
cranking out a total of 12 Jason movies.
817
00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:18,208
Did I think back then that there'd be 12
Friday the 13th movies? Hell no!
818
00:40:18,289 --> 00:40:21,710
And there were equally
as many not-Jason movies.
819
00:40:21,793 --> 00:40:24,344
You had a hoard of knockoffs.
820
00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:26,012
So, you get Sleepaway Camp.
821
00:40:27,132 --> 00:40:29,762
Gore fests like Chopping Mall.
822
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:33,143
It started a whole revolution.
823
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:37,181
And for Tom Savini,
the opportunities started flowing in.
824
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:39,188
The '80s was the splatter decade.
825
00:40:39,269 --> 00:40:41,519
And that's when I did
all those splatter films.
826
00:40:43,065 --> 00:40:46,025
Though, Tom isn't the only one
still getting attention.
827
00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,860
Why would anybody want my signature,
and why would they want to pay for it?
828
00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:51,907
Well, because after 40 years,
829
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:56,291
the legacy of this fright show
franchise refuses to die.
830
00:40:57,579 --> 00:41:02,329
It is as strong as ever, just based
on the letters and pictures still.
831
00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:04,338
It's still very much alive.
832
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:06,460
And as for Jeannine, who thought…
833
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:08,666
It's probably not gonna go anywhere.
834
00:41:08,757 --> 00:41:10,376
Must be my imagination.
835
00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:12,547
Well, she was dead wrong.
836
00:41:12,635 --> 00:41:17,215
I did not want my husband's
parents to see the movie,
837
00:41:17,307 --> 00:41:19,188
and I begged them not to see it.
838
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,057
But the first thing they did
was go see it.
839
00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:27,193
My father-in-law said
he'd been in World War II,
840
00:41:27,275 --> 00:41:28,775
and this was worse than that.
841
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:31,570
But come on.
It's not like Jeannine's death was...
842
00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:33,445
Actually, what was Jeannine's death?
843
00:41:33,532 --> 00:41:35,871
Well, okay, when the ax goes
into the girl's head…
844
00:41:36,702 --> 00:41:38,081
Yeah, that would do it.
845
00:41:38,161 --> 00:41:40,541
Well, after a prosthetics
head malfunction…
846
00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:46,092
Tom and Taso hot glued the fake ax
directly onto my forehead.
847
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:51,050
It was kind of a DIY
kind of an atmosphere.
848
00:41:51,132 --> 00:41:54,143
Which is really
something to be proud of…
849
00:41:54,219 --> 00:41:58,349
because all these years later,
those reservations Jeannine had…
850
00:41:58,431 --> 00:42:00,731
Well, they've changed a bit.
851
00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:05,518
Unlike the camp in New Jersey which,
well, hasn't changed much at all.
852
00:42:07,398 --> 00:42:09,648
This is Crystal Lake.
853
00:42:09,735 --> 00:42:12,605
And it's like a time capsule.
It really is.
854
00:42:12,695 --> 00:42:13,695
It's just…
855
00:42:15,114 --> 00:42:17,324
exactly as it was,
856
00:42:17,409 --> 00:42:20,579
just imagine leaves on the trees.
857
00:42:21,871 --> 00:42:23,922
And the float looks the same.
858
00:42:24,416 --> 00:42:26,876
So, for a young actress who thought…
859
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960
"I'll follow this path
and see where it takes me."
860
00:42:30,047 --> 00:42:31,797
Well, it's led her right back here.
861
00:42:31,882 --> 00:42:36,101
My God, I never would have dreamed
862
00:42:36,177 --> 00:42:40,768
that I'd be standing here
forty-some-odd years later,
863
00:42:41,474 --> 00:42:44,594
looking around, but I'm glad I am.
864
00:42:45,228 --> 00:42:49,278
This might have been
where I… where I slid down the wall.
865
00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:54,318
For as brave as you need to be
to watch the horrors of Friday the 13th…
866
00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,445
This is Brenda's cabin,
867
00:42:57,490 --> 00:43:00,621
where all the romance happened.
868
00:43:01,869 --> 00:43:03,409
It's worth remembering
869
00:43:03,496 --> 00:43:06,666
that at the very beginning
of these young actors' careers,
870
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,420
they were brave too, in a different way.
871
00:43:09,503 --> 00:43:14,972
It was made really clear to me
that I had done something really bad
872
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:18,139
that was really going to hurt my career,
873
00:43:18,219 --> 00:43:23,230
and maybe, you know,
probably happened, to be honest.
874
00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:26,809
But bravely taking on a role is one thing.
875
00:43:26,894 --> 00:43:30,644
This guy, he put it all on the line,
hoping to land a hit.
876
00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:32,572
And that's pretty brave, too.
877
00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:36,740
I knew so little about making movies
878
00:43:36,822 --> 00:43:39,782
that I didn't know
what could and could not be done.
879
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:43,954
We didn't have careers
or reputations to protect.
880
00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:47,208
We were just trying to, you know,
trying to do this thing
881
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:48,880
called making a movie.
882
00:43:48,958 --> 00:43:52,248
And Sean's humble pursuit to make a movie
883
00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:55,838
with this ragtag team
of cinematic killers…
884
00:43:55,923 --> 00:43:58,684
That was me in the '80s. I was that guy.
885
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,141
…created a decades-long legacy that,
for everyone involved,
886
00:44:03,222 --> 00:44:04,932
is here to stay.
887
00:44:05,016 --> 00:44:08,436
This was a shoestring,
888
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:12,269
fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants endeavor
889
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,989
all those years ago,
and I never would have thought
890
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:23,121
that generations now revere this.
891
00:44:23,994 --> 00:44:26,963
And I have to respect that. And I do.
892
00:44:28,206 --> 00:44:32,336
And be grateful for it. And I am.
893
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:35,420
I am.
73750
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