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[narrator] He's one of
the most feared animals on the planet.
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He weighs 2,000 pounds,
has razor sharp teeth,
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and has evolved to be one of the most
stealthy ambush hunters in the oceans.
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He's so dangerous,
in fact, that many believe
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the only way to study him
is through the bars of a cage
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and so most of the time
this is how we see him.
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And this is how he sees us.
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But are we protected
by the bars of the cage?
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Or blinded?
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[guitar rock music]
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[narrator] On a small research vessel off
the coast of Mexico a group of scientists,
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divers and filmmakers
will swim beyond the cage
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in order to look into the mind
of a single Great White shark.
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Their goal:
to determine once and for all
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if he is an intelligent animal
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or a mindless killer.
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There are some things
you have to take risk on.
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If any of those sharks really want you
they're going to get you.
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You can't change
the whole world's perception on sharks,
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but if we get people
to care about Great White sharks
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it will trickle down to all the rest
of the sharks and the ocean.
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Empathy leads to care
and knowledge leads to empathy.
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[narrator]
In order to understand the Great White,
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the crew of the Captain Jack
will look through his eyes,
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swim with him, touch him,
interact with him,
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and, in the end, they will be so confident
in the relationship that they've built,
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that they will attempt an experiment
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that most people
would find absolutely crazy.
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[dramatic music]
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I feel so much like the bait right now.
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[narrator] Everything we know about sharks
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tells us that this is impossible.
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Of course,
it doesn't really matter what we think.
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The only thing that matters
is what he thinks.
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[dramatic music]
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[narrator] On a beautiful day
at the beginning of summer,
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a Great White shark
will leave the Hawaiian Islands
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and begin swimming east.
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It is a journey
he's made many times before
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as did his ancestors before him.
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It is a journey from warm water to cold.
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From feeding on dorado and wahoo,
to tuna and elephant seals.
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It is 35 hundred miles,
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and he will swim it on a course
which is almost perfectly straight.
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His name is Bruce or
at least that's the name we've given him.
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He could be 11 years old or 12 or 20.
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He is one of the dominant males
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of one of the most powerful species
of predators on the planet.
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And if you were to fall in the water
with a Great White shark
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this is exactly the animal
you'd want by your side.
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People run out the door
to come and see Bruce.
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They like Bruce and they think
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Bruce likes them.
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[upbeat guitar music]
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[narrator] The crew of the Captain Jack
has sailed to Guadalupe Island,
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off the coast of Mexico,
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in order to work with Bruce
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whose unique personality
is perfect for their experiments.
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The white sharks
they have different personalities.
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Sometimes you can identify
the shark just because of the behavior.
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[narrator] Dr. Mauricio Hoyos
has probably spent more time
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working with the Great Whites
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on Guadalupe Island
than anyone else on the planet.
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I started to love sharks
because of the movie Jaws.
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And I had the same idea
as everybody at the beginning.
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My conception of it was
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that it was going to try to feed
on the divers or to attack the cage
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and nothing like that happened.
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It has changed because I have been
in touch with them and I know them
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and I think that
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if you want to change your mind
you have to know
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in person these animals.
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[narrator]
Bruce and hundreds of other Great Whites
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migrate each year to Guadalupe Island,
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making it
one of the most important destinations
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for shark research on the planet.
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[Hoyos] I'm using ultrasonic transmitters
with temperature and depth sensors.
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Also I have under water receivers
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to know the diving behavior
of the shark when it's near the island.
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[narrator]
The tag on Bruce and others like it
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have allowed scientists like Mauricio
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to paint an increasingly precise picture
of what Bruce's life is really like.
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Some areas, however,
remain shrouded in mystery.
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Great White shark reproduction
has never been witnessed by human eyes.
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What we know has been pieced together
from tracking data,
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lab experiments and comparisons
with other species of shark.
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Bruce's parents probably mated somewhere
in the course of their long migration.
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Perhaps it was in Hawaii or Guadalupe
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or perhaps it was at the Great White Cafe,
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a mysterious spot
in the middle of the Pacific
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where Great White sharks gather
from all across the western hemisphere.
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Unlike other fish,
Great White's eggs hatch in the womb,
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and are carried to term
before a live birth.
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However, even in the womb
Bruce had to fight for survival,
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competing with the other pups to consume
their mother's unfertilized eggs.
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The loser of these intrauterine battles
were often consumed themselves.
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After a year long gestation period,
Bruce's mother gave birth to him
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and a few other survivors.
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Bruce was probably just under five feet
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as he swam into the open ocean
for the first time.
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And from that moment on,
he was on his own.
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How did he find food?
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How did he protect himself
from larger predators?
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Unfortunately,
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while ultra sonic and satellite tags
can provide scientists like Mauricio
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with an incredible amount of data
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what they don't do is tell us
what a shark like Bruce is thinking.
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Why is he going deep or shallow?
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What does Bruce's behavior mean?
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In many ways, the study of sharks
is in the same position today
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that the study of primates was in
40 years ago.
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It took two women,
Jane Goodall and Dian Fossey,
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to revolutionize the way
animals were studied.
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Instead of observing the animal
from a distance
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or through the bars of a cage,
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they interacted, they connected,
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they formed a relationship
with another species
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and learned things about the chimpanzee
and the mountain gorilla
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that no one had ever suspected before.
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Their work the crew of the Captain Jack
has been trying to emulate
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for much of the last decade.
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In 2004 this led them
on one of the most unusual
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and ill-fated experiments
in the history of shark research.
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[dramatic music]
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So in taking the ideas
that Jane Goodall and Dian Fossey had,
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we came up with this idea to build a shark
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that we could be inside with and swim
with the sharks like we're a shark.
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That idea alone shows
how incredibly out of touch we are
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with their world.
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[narrator]
After years of work and a few close calls,
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the crew of the Captain Jack
finally got their shark to swim.
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However, the lessons
you learn from the experiment
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are often very different
from what you set out to find.
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[Hoover ]
The moment the first Great White saw robo,
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we were certain
that something big was going to happen.
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Maybe they'd posture, test it, attack it,
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but they didn't.
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[narrator]
The most interesting thing the crew saw
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wasn't inside the shark sub but outside.
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Something that people
don't think about with a show like this
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is that for every shot you see
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there was
a cameraman in the water shooting it.
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While the sharks
were kind of interested in the sub
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the things they were really curious about
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were the divers.
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[narrator] This experience led
the crew of the Captain Jack to an idea
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that most people
would find absolutely crazy.
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What if, instead of observing the shark
through the bars of the cage
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or even from inside robo,
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they attempt to interact with him
in the open ocean?
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Would it be possible to form
a relationship with a Great White shark
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in the same way
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that Dian Fossey and Jane Goodall
formed relationships with their primates?
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[upbeat music]
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We get a call in at National Geographic
and it's this guy Mike Hoover.
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So I call Bob Cranston, "Hey, Bob,
have you ever heard of Mike Hoover?"
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"I know Mike Hoover!"
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Well, he's saying he wants to film
white shark predations without a cage.
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"Yeah, that sounds like Hoover!"
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[narrator] Mike Hoover has filmed Everest,
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led three unsupported expeditions
to Antarctica,
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windsurfed from Alaska
to the Soviet Union
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and lived for years among the Mujahideen
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during the war
against the Soviets in Afghanistan
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and the Taliban before September 11th.
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And he's done all of this
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in order to transform the way
we see the world.
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[Hoyos] I have seen the same passion
that I have about the sharks.
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That's the most important thing.
He wants to learn about the sharks.
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You become less arrogant
as you start to listen to the other side.
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You start to think,
how much does a Great White shark know?
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What could we learn from him?
This is a whole library of information.
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[narrator] Gathering that information
is what Mauricio has been doing
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in the waters off Guadalupe
for the last seven years.
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[Hoyos] And we learned really
interesting things about their behavior.
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They know they're really powerful,
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so in order to avoid a fight
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I have seen like two sharks
swimming really close to each other,
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measuring each other
in order to know who's bigger.
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I have seen something
that it's called a display.
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It's like a dog showing the teeth.
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So, I don't want to have a fight with you,
let's try first this.
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And if it doesn't work, then there's going
to be a conflict between them.
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I have seen the sharks
biting each other on the gills,
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on the head or even on the fins.
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[narrator]
It was questions of shark interactions,
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social behavior and dominance
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that the crew was determined to explore
during their robo shark experiment.
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But they could never get the Great Whites
to treat robo like he was one of them.
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[Hoover]
There is no way you can fool them,
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because they're so much smarter
than you think.
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[narrator] Robo shark
might look like a Great White to us
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but sharks don't sense the world
the way we do.
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In addition to excellent sight
and a far superior sense of smell
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sharks also possess
electrical sensing organs
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known as the Ampules of Lorenzini.
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These jelly filled canals are so sensitive
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that they can detect
the one billionth of a volt,
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generated by the heartbeat of a tiny fish
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buried under the sand.
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Without this sixth sense,
it is impossible for us to imagine
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what the underwater world
looks like to a Great White shark.
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An even stronger current is produced
when metal such as steel
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comes in contact with salt water.
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Actually,
when the cage diving operations started
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all the cages were made of steel
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and the sharks were really aggressive.
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We thought that they're trying
to eat the divers in the cage.
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[Hoyos] That's what everybody thought.
"It wants to eat the persons inside."
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But no, it's because of the reaction
of the salt water with the metal.
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It's a galvanic current.
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[narrator] Once shark cages
were constructed out of aluminum
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incidents of unprovoked sharks
biting the bars
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fell considerably.
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This same galvanic current explains
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why sharks are drawn
to bite everything from outboard motors
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to trans-Atlantic communication cables.
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It also explains
why robo shark never fooled any of them.
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While the crew of the Captain Jack
was struggling to get a shark to swim,
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National Geographic's Greg Marshall
was refining a far more elegant solution.
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-The critter cam.
-The critter cam.
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-The critter cam.
-Yeah, the critter cam!
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[narrator] Rather than hiding
a cameraman inside a shark,
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the critter cam
turns a shark into a cameraman.
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Since its development
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the critter cam has been used
on everything from a blue whale
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to a common house cat.
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[Hoyos] I always wonder
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if I would be a shark, what would I see.
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I think that with the critter cam
you can know that for sure.
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But if you want to deploy
a critter cam on a Great White shark,
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you need two things.
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The right shark and the right crew.
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I want to understand this animal,
to check it out, see how they react.
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-[Healey] I want to see how you react.
-[Brandon laughs]
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[Hoover] Brandon Wahlers.
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[Whalers]
You guys see that, right there? Shark!
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He's like 23 going on 17 in some aspects.
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He was described
in on of the diving magazines
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as the Tiger Woods of blue water hunting.
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[Healey] He's got my back
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and it's the same with him,
I got his back.
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He is a friend of mine,
I don't want to see him get hurt or eaten.
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[narrator] Mark Healey
has gained an international reputation
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as one of the world's
top big wave surfers.
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But he's also a world class freediver.
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[Healey] The way I look at it is,
I learn a lot about myself
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whenever I push the envelope.
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[narrator] In the past,
most underwater shark research
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has been done using scuba.
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Unfortunately, sharks don't like
all the noise scuba gear makes,
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and the steel tanks
produce the same galvanic current
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as an old fashioned shark cage.
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But Brandon and Mark
are world class freedivers.
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That means that on a single breathe-hold
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they can swim down
to depths of well over 100 feet.
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Their speed, silence
and freedom of movement
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will hopefully allow them
to interact with Bruce
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in ways scuba divers never could.
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I pride myself
in being passionate about them
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and feeling
that I know what they're thinking
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and what they're doing and why.
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At least for the most part
and then they do something different.
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I've been studying them for seven years
and they've been around for millions.
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What the hell do I know?
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[Hoover] Andy Brandy Casagrande the 4th.
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The world's neatest name.
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It turns out there is no 3rd,
there is no 2nd.
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His dad made it up and he thought
it sounded better with the 4th on it.
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"You're going to swim
with Great White sharks, you're crazy."
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And then they speed away
in their Porsche and snort cocaine.
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[Hoover]
The guy has some loose screw in his system
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that has made him
super passionate about wildlife
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and in particular the Great White shark.
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-Where is he? Talk to us.
-[Denis] He's in front of you.
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He came knowing a lot
and he still knows a lot.
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It would be more the other way,
what we've learned from him.
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[narrator] But the most unusual member
of the Captain Jack's crew
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isn't a scientist or a filmmaker.
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[classical fanfare, Ode to Joy]
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[narrator]
Mermaids are a myth and a legend.
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But for Hannah Fraser they're a symbol,
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a reminder that our lives
and the lives of our oceans
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are intimately connected.
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And so Hannah Fraser
dons a fish tail and swims.
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She swims with porpoises and turtles,
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with big fish and even bigger whales.
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And if Brandon and Mark's dives
go absolutely perfectly,
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it's Hannah's intention to take a swim
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with Bruce.
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[whistles]
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[narrator]
Bruce has incredibly precise senses.
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He hears the engine,
the generator, the anchor drop.
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He smells the chum.
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He might pick up on the electrical signal
from the Captain Jack's metal hull.
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Maybe he thinks he can get an easy snack.
Or maybe he's just plain curious.
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But while we'll probably never know
what Bruce is thinking,
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with the help of the critter cam
we can get a pretty good idea
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of what he's seeing.
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[upbeat flute tune]
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[narrator] For a while, Bruce became
the project's most valuable cameraman,
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filming scenes around Guadalupe Island
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that had never been seen before.
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[upbeat flute tune]
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This shows the deployment.
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This is immediately
after this camera got put on the shark.
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Like little critters on the shark too,
they'll run around.
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The most interesting thing
that I didn't know that I was going to see
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is the behavior of the ectoparasites
on the head of the shark.
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[Hoover] What is that on the left there,
the left side of him?
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-[Hoover] What's that?
-That's a bunch of them.
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They were moving all the time.
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Actually, I think
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that we got the first record
of mating of these parasites
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right in front of the camera.
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[narrator] The parasites
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might explain another behavior
they saw in the critter cam.
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The shark was close to the bottom
for more than 45 minutes.
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They're almost scratching
their belly on the bottom.
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[Hoyos] They also could be looking
for fishes on the bottom.
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A lot of prey items of the stomachs
of sharks are fishes from the bottom,
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so it could be both.
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[narrator] Trying to figure out
whether Bruce went to the bottom to hunt
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or to scrape parasites off his belly
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is one of the things that makes watching
the critter cam footage so exciting.
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-Wow!
-Wow!
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-That's the Captain Jack.
-[Wahlers] There's another shark.
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You got another shark. That's awesome.
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And we saw interactions of the sharks.
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On one occasion,
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you could see a small shark
that was coming right in front of Bruce
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and suddenly it disappeared.
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Because Bruce
is a really, really big shark.
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[narrator] So the crew of the Captain Jack
continues to work day after day
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with the critter cam.
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But after so many perfect deployments
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it was almost inevitable
that something would go wrong.
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[scratching, dark sounds]
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[narrator] The critter cam is designed
to release automatically
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and float to the surface for retrieval
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but for some reason it hadn't.
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The guys that designed this thing
are really smart.
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They built in a redundant release system.
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At a scheduled time the blade comes down
and cuts that zip tie.
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But if that doesn't work
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there's a little magnesium post
holding the whole thing in place
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and magnesium dissolves in salt water.
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So if all of the electronic stuff
completely fails,
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after 10 hours this thing
should pop off all on its own.
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[narrator]
But while the system worked perfectly
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the critter cam
became tangled in the other tags
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on Bruce's dorsal fin.
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This wasn't about losing
a valuable piece of equipment,
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this was about Bruce.
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And there was no way of knowing how long
the camera would be stuck on his back.
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[narrator] There was only one solution.
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If the critter cam
didn't fall off on its own,
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then somebody
was going to have to swim down
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and take it off by hand.
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[clanging sound]
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[narrator] If you knew an animal was evil
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would it change the way you treat it?
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The killer whale is one of the most
powerful predators in the oceans,
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but it is protected and revered
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while the shark is slaughtered at the rate
of about 100 million a year.
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If you knew an animal
was unfairly labeled as a demon,
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how much would you
be willing to risk to save it?
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[Healey] Well, going into the trip,
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I made up my mind that I wasn't going
to force any kind of dangerous situation.
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I'd only jump in with a shark
and interact with them outside of the cage
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if it totally seemed
like it made sense to me.
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[shouts]
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[Healey]
So first five minutes we get on the boat,
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Bruce, the biggest shark
we saw the whole trip, was there,
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and the second I saw him,
I knew he was one I could swim with.
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This critter cam was supposed to deploy.
It never did, it was stuck on his back.
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Apparently at National Geographic
they spent a ton of money on this thing.
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So they really wanted it back
and they were kind of talking
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jokingly amongst themselves
about somebody could just go and cut it.
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So I was like,
"Yeah, I think we can do that."
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I knew that everything was there
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and he was the perfect white shark
to come in contact with.
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But it's like having
all the information on insider trading
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but you have to put
your life savings up front.
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The moment that he came
and tuned straight into me,
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and I realized that I was
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the sole interest of him at that moment,
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that's when I'm sure that shark could hear
my heartbeat loud and clear in the water.
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It felt like it was beating
right here in my throat, you know.
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I was his for the taking, if he wanted me.
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It's a 100% chance
he would have been able to have me.
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He came up and I actually
didn't approach him right.
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I kind of rushed it
because I was super nervous.
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So he could see me with his left eye,
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and as I'm coming down
he's kind of rolling.
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I'm trying to get to his dorsal fin
and it's getting further away.
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I'm getting closer to the mouth,
further away from the dorsal fin.
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So I'm like, "Oh crap."
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I ended up clipping
that zip tie on the critter cam,
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and you could tell
he was kind of trying to shake it off,
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and went up to the surface
and thrashed around and got it lose
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and took off
but then he came right back around again.
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[Casagrande] The shark's still around,
the shark's still here.
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-[Casagrande] Bruce is circling around.
-[Hoover] Bruce is back. [laughs]
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Seemed like he wanted more,
you know, it's bizarre.
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This is a chance for an interaction.
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He's coming in to see about us
and we’re out there to see about him.
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Let's kind of figure out
some way to interact.
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[narrator] The interaction
with Mark Healy is a first step.
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But if the crew of the Captain Jack
wants to forge a relationship
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with a predator as powerful as Bruce,
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they're going to need
some very special help.
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[upbeat music]
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[fanfare music]
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[narrator] Thirty-five years ago,
forming a relationship with a killer whale
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was almost as crazy
as forming one with a Great White shark.
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Killer whales
are the other apex predator in the ocean,
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and in many ways they're dominant
even over the Great White.
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But in the last 35 years,
the image of the killer whale
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has been completely transformed.
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[Hoover] Looking at the show at Sea World,
I was more interested
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in how they got them to do it
and there had to be somebody,
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some Bill Gates of killer whale training,
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and I wanted to meet him.
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And that guy is Thad Lacinak.
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[guitar music]
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[Lacinak] When I first started,
animal training was a lot more basic
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than it is today.
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There was a lot more
of tell the animal what to do.
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And we found with killer whales
because...
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Their name alone says it,
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they're not going to be told
what to do by anybody.
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[Hoover]
They have to do it because they like you,
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because they built up
a relationship with you.
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And they have to do it
for things other than food.
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So we changed the way we train the animals
and focused more on the positive.
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[narrator] The result
was a new relationship with a wild animal
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and the transformation of its image
from killer
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to friend.
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At a small facility in Jamaica,
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one of Thad's students, Eric Bogden,
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is using his techniques
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to work with an animal that most people
would consider to be untrainable.
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[splashes]
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[Lacinak ] Yeah, this is... Look at that!
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Look at the other ones.
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That is absolutely incredible!
Upperhand conditioning at its best.
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That is just incredible.
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These animals
know exactly where to go and what to do
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as soon as they hit the water.
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And these are sharks,
these are suppose to be not so smart.
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I know we are going to be able
to do some stuff with whites.
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[narrator] But working with killer whales
or even nurse sharks in captivity
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is very different from working
with Great Whites in the open ocean.
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Still, in many ways,
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the greatest obstacle
the crew of the Captain Jack faces
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is the one they brought with them...
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Fear.
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[thundering music]
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[narrator] Terrifying, isn't it?
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But what if, instead of looking at it
through the eyes of a victim,
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you could see
through the eyes of the shark?
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Maybe you'd notice
how the shark attacks from below,
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ambush style,
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or how it's jaws dislocate
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and he can move his rows of teeth
almost independently.
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Maybe you'd even notice
how the guy with the bait
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pulls it at the last possible second,
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in order to tease the shark
and get his shot.
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If you could see all that,
the shark would remain exactly the same
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but you would have changed.
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[guitar music]
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[narrator] That's why the crew
have come to Guadalupe.
477
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,560
Not to change the shark
but to change our perceptions of the shark
478
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,520
through direct physical contact.
479
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040
But how do you interact safely
with a predator as powerful as Bruce?
480
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:56,720
Well, the first thing you do
is you ask the guy who's done it before.
481
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720
What was it like the first time you got
in the water with the killer whales?
482
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,240
Well, I mean, we spent days
before we got in the water with them,
483
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,320
working with them on the surface.
484
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,240
I mean, we've been here, what?
Seven, eight days?
485
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280
And I worked
with a killer whale named Ramu
486
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,040
who was a pretty aggressive
male killer whale.
487
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,320
He weighed about 9,000 pounds
488
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920
but we'd make mistakes once in a while,
we'd push him a little to far,
489
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,160
we'd ask a little too much
of our relationship with him.
490
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,440
And we got hurt.
491
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040
We got dragged to the bottom of the pool,
held under water.
492
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:32,920
We made all the mistakes back then.
493
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200
And we learned from them.
And that's kind of what we're doing here.
494
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,360
-[Hoover] That's what we're doing here.
-Exactly.
495
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,240
It's a little bit of trial and error.
496
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,320
The difference is we don't have 35 years
of studying and working with them.
497
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,200
-With the exact same animal.
-And in those controlled circumstances.
498
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,320
That's the difference.
499
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,880
Hey, and I'm not saying I wouldn't do it.
500
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600
-I'm not saying...
-Well, will you do it?
501
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,880
-Yeah, I'd try it.
-Good.
502
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,120
After Brandon.
503
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,480
[laughter]
504
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,440
Thad, how do we answer the question, why?
505
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Well, in my opinion, you never...
you can't find out more about the animal
506
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,080
until you try something.
507
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,800
-A next step in learning about them.
-I absolutely feel that way.
508
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,640
And it's a next step in them or at least
this small population learning about us.
509
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,680
[narrator] So under Thad's direction,
Brandon and Mark swim away from the cage.
510
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Their goal: to interact with a 16 foot,
2,000 pound predator.
511
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,840
But what happens next
is something nobody would have predicted.
512
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,120
[upbeat guitar music]
513
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560
[narrator]
Not only did Bruce not attack them,
514
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,080
he allowed Brandon and Mark
to ride on his dorsal fin.
515
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,680
Not just once, not just twice,
516
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720
but all afternoon.
517
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,880
But it wasn't just Bruce.
Other sharks showed up to interact.
518
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,400
And not one of them
came in to take a bite.
519
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520
[upbeat music]
520
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,560
That was fun.
521
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,120
It certainly is fun.
A dorsal ride is a lot of fun.
522
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,440
And you actually sort of feel
an affinity towards the shark.
523
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,160
And you kind of feel...
524
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120
And this is maybe
anthropomorphizing way too much,
525
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040
you feel he might feel
the same way towards you.
526
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:58,760
I'm not one of those people
that think I like got some...
527
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,600
...magical communication telepathy
with animals.
528
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960
But what really amazed me
is how some of them would just...
529
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,840
They loved it,
they'd keep coming back for more.
530
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240
They actually wanted to be around you.
531
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,760
And not in a...
532
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,920
...in the context of prey and predator.
533
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,400
[Lacinak] If the shark didn't like it,
534
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
number one he'd probably
swim as fast as he could to get away,
535
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,280
or he'd turn around and lunch the guy
but they haven't done that.
536
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,320
Yesterday I watched one shark.
537
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
In a matter of 45 minutes,
538
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,880
he came around eight times.
539
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,480
And each time he let one of the divers
grab him by the dorsal
540
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,400
and go for a long ride.
541
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160
I know this sounds crazy as hell
542
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
and I can't even believe I'm saying it,
543
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,240
I probably would not have said this
had I not seen what I've seen here now,
544
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,480
with these sharks.
545
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,120
But I know animals,
546
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,760
and that shark is telling you,
547
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120
"It didn't bother me at the least."
548
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,880
And he may have enjoyed it.
549
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160
There are people out there
that are going to think this is a stunt.
550
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
That I dared Brandon
to grab onto a white shark
551
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,920
so I could film it.
552
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080
[Hoover] No matter what we do
some people are going to say
553
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480
it's a stunt and we're going
to be on all kinds of blogs,
554
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,600
being a bunch of yahoos,
cowboys, whatever.
555
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880
But what Thad said right now
is so profound.
556
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,480
That it wasn't aversive to the shark,
557
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,080
contrary to what everybody
would have predicted.
558
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,280
The shark comes back.
The shark goes by the tuna.
559
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320
He's curious about us.
He's learning about us.
560
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,840
We're learning about him.
561
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,640
[narrator] But is Bruce really learning
about the crew of the Captain Jack?
562
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,640
After all,
563
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,680
most people think of him
as little more than a mindless killer.
564
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Actually, in the past
most of the people thought
565
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360
that the sharks were stupid creatures.
566
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,280
[narrator]
Early analysis of white shark anatomy
567
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,680
revealed a brain
not much larger than the human thumb.
568
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,680
But recent data suggests
that the brain of the white shark
569
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,600
might be far bigger
than anyone ever suspected.
570
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Just below what we thought
was the shark's brain
571
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160
is a large, flat, Y shaped structure
572
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,200
whose cells bear very close resemblance
to brain tissue.
573
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,200
In a 16 foot white shark,
this Y shaped structure can grow
574
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040
up to two and a half feet long,
575
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,400
implying previously
undetected cognitive ability
576
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,280
in an animal widely believed
to be a mindless killer.
577
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,240
And yet, despite all the new data,
the myth of the demon shark
578
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,920
is stronger than ever.
579
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720
A shark is a killing machine.
580
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,360
-They show no love, no mercy.
-Vicious...
581
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,200
They're hungry and out to get people.
582
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600
-They can sense blood.
-I didn't swim for years after I saw Jaws.
583
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,520
[narrator] Sharks kill only
a handful of people each year
584
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,200
but the fear of sharks affects millions.
585
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,480
If I see a dolphin fin
it gives me a slight...
586
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,720
[laughs]
587
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,680
...you know, fear.
588
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,120
[narrator]
And how do people know what they know
589
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
about the Great White shark?
590
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,560
I see it on TV a lot.
591
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,920
[narrator] Mike Hoover
has spent much of the last decade
592
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,640
filming the Great Whites.
593
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880
While his intention
is to demystify the animal
594
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,400
the realities of the entertainment
industry have put him
595
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,080
in an almost impossible position.
596
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,960
You see,
597
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,720
there's only one real way
to sell a shark show...
598
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,320
...teeth.
599
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,560
[Nutcracker music]
600
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,120
[narrator ] And if you want teeth
you're going to have to use bait.
601
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,560
So if we don't deliver the shark shot
602
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,040
we don't have a film, we don't get paid,
and we don't get another job.
603
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,400
We have to get that shot.
604
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000
And pivotal to getting that shot
is the bait.
605
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,360
[Nutcracker music]
606
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,560
[narrator ] Once the bait's in the water
all you can do
607
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,640
is wait...
608
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,720
...and wait...
609
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,720
...and wait.
610
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,880
And even when the sharks do come to visit,
611
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
there's no guarantee
that they'll actually take a bite.
612
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,000
[Hoover] We put out bait in the water
and they often swim right by it.
613
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000
And you go, well then why are they here?
614
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,920
You think about the number of times
that they come in and swim by the bait,
615
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,200
you would think that might be two to one
or three to one or something like that.
616
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,360
It's probably closer
to 40 to 1 that they come by
617
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,080
and come by and come by...
618
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Often they don't even go by the bait.
619
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,400
The white sharks do not eat all the time.
620
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Actually, there was a study.
621
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Some scientist set an internal transmitter
in the stomach of the shark
622
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
in order to know
when the shark was going to feed
623
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840
and the shark
didn't feed for one month and a half.
624
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,600
[narrator] And then, finally,
after weeks or even months of waiting,
625
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,720
you get the shot you were looking for.
626
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,280
[bang]
627
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,400
So, how we know what we know
about Great White sharks
628
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,080
has largely been influenced
by only seeing sharks that are eating.
629
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,040
[bang and splash]
630
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Imagine if everything
we knew about human beings
631
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800
was watching them eat at the dinner table.
632
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,120
And now, from that we're going to be able
to describe what their lives are like.
633
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,640
When this becomes
the totality of what you know
634
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,440
about Great White sharks,
635
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440
your opinion of them is going to be bent.
636
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Because, first of all,
we only see them in one particular mode.
637
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,120
And second of all,
the media tends to amplify that mode.
638
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,240
And you see it over,
and over, and over, and over again,
639
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,080
until that becomes
what a Great White shark is.
640
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,920
A mindless eating machine.
641
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Which it isn't.
642
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,640
[narrator] One of the most
interesting things the crew discovers
643
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360
is how broad and varied
the range of personalities are
644
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,400
among the sharks of Guadalupe.
645
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,040
From the calm and cautious sharks
like Bruce
646
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320
to the small, twitchy, aggressive,
647
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160
and, to be honest,
very frightening shark named Mao.
648
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,280
[guitar music]
649
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,480
We weren't getting rides on those guys,
like that scarred up one, Mao,
650
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920
he was... he wanted a piece, man.
651
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
He tried to sneak up on me
a bunch of times.
652
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,120
He's really...
I don't like to say aggressive
653
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,640
but it's all the time, he's really active,
all the time he's moving.
654
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,000
He's on the other side of the cage
and he's biting the motor.
655
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,960
He's smaller, he's younger, probably.
656
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,200
And he's got shark bites on him.
You'd think that's changed his behavior.
657
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,760
An interesting thing about white sharks,
you can learn a lot about their behavior
658
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,960
just by their looks.
659
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,880
The rougher and ripped up and scarred up
and more beat up the shark looks,
660
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,600
means the shark
has no problem with brawling.
661
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,560
[Lacinak]
Has he been picked on by other sharks
662
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,000
and that could cause him
to have an attitude?
663
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680
And that goes back to my point
664
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
that you can not predict
665
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,960
what these sharks are going to do
and you have to be careful.
666
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,760
You do not know what
the individual history is on the animals.
667
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,840
And the more we do it
and the more we're all in the water,
668
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,280
then we can start to predict it
but you can make mistakes too.
669
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,360
[narrator] So what is Bruce thinking
when he sees the diver in the water?
670
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,320
Is he motivated by hunger or curiosity
671
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,880
or some other instinct
we haven't even begun to suspect?
672
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,880
It's a big question and the only way
to answer it is experience
673
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640
as we advance step by tiny step.
674
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,600
Present Bruce with new things
and observe his reactions.
675
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,120
Will he be cautious, aggressive,
curious, fearful...
676
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,560
...maybe even playful?
677
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,280
The more unusual the situation
the more interesting the reaction.
678
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,720
And sometimes
the most exciting experiments
679
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,920
are the ones where no one
has any idea what will happen next.
680
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,480
[thundering music]
681
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,880
[string music]
682
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,280
[narrator]
This is the world as Bruce sees it.
683
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
White light shining through blue water.
684
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,400
The feel of coarse sand
against his rough skin.
685
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640
And the smell of a thousand lives
686
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,720
connected by the shimmering buzz
of electricity
687
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080
which we will never see.
688
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520
This is his world
and he knows every inch of it.
689
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,400
But for the last several weeks
he's been focused on something else.
690
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Is it possible
that he is just as curious about us
691
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,080
as we are about him?
692
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120
Well, when we're in the water
they seem more interested
693
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,960
and engaged with us than the 80 pound tuna
hanging above our heads.
694
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,960
[Lacinek] That convinced me, we watch it,
you've got this fish hanging out there
695
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,440
and they're not coming up
and taking a swipe at it.
696
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Bruce is coming, again and again
697
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,880
because it's interesting, it's curiosity
it's telling you that it's...
698
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,480
...an intelligent animal.
699
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Behavior works like this, you have...
700
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,520
You have the behavior
and then a consequence happens.
701
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,600
For instance, a shark could rub up
against the side of the boat
702
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,400
and knock some parasites off.
703
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600
And that feels good, that...
and then he does it again.
704
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,800
I think that it's really important
the research of Thad
705
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
because he has
a lot of experience with behavior.
706
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,920
With mammals, not with sharks,
but maybe we could learn a lot
707
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,720
of the white shark behavior
because nobody knows anything.
708
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480
We have the small things
about that behavior with the technology.
709
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,640
But I think that sometimes
the most important thing
710
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,560
is to be there, watching face to face.
711
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,400
For instance, and I know
this is going to sound really crazy,
712
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,560
even to this group, but probably
even more to this group on television.
713
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Will they like tactile?
Will they like touch?
714
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,400
I mean, every animal I've ever worked with
absolutely loves a belly scratch
715
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,280
or a rub with a brush or...
716
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560
Killer whales love tactile,
elephants love it,
717
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,720
cats, dogs, every animal likes tactile.
718
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Would these animals like it?
719
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,760
Possibly.
They've got a lot of parasites on them.
720
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,720
And would they repeat something
for that reinforcer.
721
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,960
Like a couple of dorsal rides
I started rubbing their sides and stuff,
722
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,400
and they loved it.
723
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,040
[narrator] Now, instead of simply
being motivated by hunger
724
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,520
the sharks at Guadalupe Island
are coming in for something else.
725
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,080
For curiosity and possibly even
for direct physical contact
726
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,960
which the crew of the Captain Jack
can use
727
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800
to push the envelope even further.
728
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,800
They try to look at you
when you're riding them.
729
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,680
If you put your head over to one side
it almost acts like a rudder,
730
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,080
they'll look back at you
and turn their head that way
731
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,000
and when they turn their that way,
their body goes that way.
732
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,840
Then you go
to the other side to turn left.
733
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,240
-Left to turn left, right to turn right.
-Yep.
734
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,200
-Huh.
-Let's try it.
735
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,480
I'm sure with the right shark
you could do it.
736
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,520
You could totally steer them.
737
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Ok, any other ideas
before we go out... and get stupid?
738
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120
I really don't have a show
739
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,080
if there aren't people in the water
with the sharks.
740
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,960
So, I try to be
the first guy in the water with the sharks
741
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,640
and the last guy
out of the water with the sharks
742
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,840
to demonstrate that not only
do I think it's safe
743
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,920
but they can see for themselves.
744
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
It's safe. Relatively safe.
745
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,960
But is everything he does safe?
746
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,240
No. No, it's not safe.
747
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,960
And at some point you've got to realize
just like on this trip
748
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,440
shit's going to happen.
749
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160
If you do this enough,
swim with Great White sharks,
750
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,560
somebody's going to get whacked.
751
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,360
But what's that mean?
You stay in a cage your whole life?
752
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,440
I don't think so.
753
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,320
You take a guy
like Mark Healey or Brandon Wahlers
754
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,000
and they wouldn't be here
if it wasn't dangerous.
755
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,880
[guitar music]
756
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,720
[narrator] The truth is, it takes a very
special person to do this kind of work.
757
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,240
One who is driven not by money or fame
758
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,720
but out of a passionate desire
to see through the eyes of a species
759
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,080
which is at once
beautiful and misunderstood.
760
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,240
This is the Great White shark song.
761
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,480
[guitar music]
762
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,440
The adult version.
763
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,640
♪ If I was a Great White
I wouldn't bite you ♪
764
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,320
♪ But I'd swim right next to you ♪
765
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960
♪ If I was a Great White
I wouldn't bite you ♪
766
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,480
♪ But I'd swim right next to you
And ask you ♪
767
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,640
♪ How ya do? ♪
768
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,720
♪ Then you'd look at me
And pull out a harpoon ♪
769
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,800
♪ And try to shoot me ♪
770
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,880
♪ Then I'd realize
How fuckin' really hungry ♪
771
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,040
♪ I am right now ♪
772
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,640
♪ Sorry about your leg
I'll be back in a while for the rest ♪
773
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,440
♪ Don't stress ♪
774
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040
♪ My sister will be back
To clean up this mess ♪
775
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,280
♪ Relax ♪
776
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,280
♪ Kickback
It's only a Great White shark attack ♪
777
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,040
[splash]
778
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,160
♪ If I was a Great White
I wouldn't bite you ♪
779
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,320
♪ But I'd swim right next to you ♪
780
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200
♪ Cuz it's my ocean too ♪
781
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,120
♪ So, please, keep it clean
Cuz I can be fuckin' mean ♪
782
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,720
♪ And I got sharp teeth ♪
783
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,120
♪ And if I realized that
That you don't care about the sea ♪
784
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,640
♪ Well, that means
You don't care about me ♪
785
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:45,320
♪ Oh, well ♪
786
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,560
♪ That's fine, I'll just bite you
In fuckin' half ♪
787
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:56,120
♪ This time
If I was a Great White ♪
788
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:02,560
♪ Yeah, if I was a Great White shark ♪
789
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,080
[strums strings]
790
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,560
Raar.
791
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,920
[laughter, applause]
792
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,640
[narrator] Each one of them came with
a different perception of the Great White.
793
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,960
But having seen them,
swum with them, even touched them,
794
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,480
none of those perceptions remain the same.
795
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,880
The question is, have they done enough
796
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,680
to change the way we see the Great White?
797
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,400
According to Mike Hoover
the answer is "no."
798
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
If they really want to make a change,
799
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,400
they are going to have
to push the envelope one last time.
800
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000
[dramatic music]
801
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,920
[pulsating music]
802
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600
[narrator] Looking into the mind
of the Great White shark
803
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,840
isn't easy.
804
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,800
Because there isn't
one Great White but two.
805
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,760
One is the child of evolution,
806
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,800
elegant, powerful, and perfect.
807
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,760
The other is the child of our imagination,
808
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,640
blood-thirsty,
vicious and absolutely terrifying.
809
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,280
Between these two visions
is a great barrier,
810
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,240
one made not of steel or stone
but of something far more powerful...
811
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,960
...fear.
812
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,280
[Hoover ] We've become
more and more afraid of things.
813
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Safety first.
The most important thing is safety.
814
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,760
If we're not safe
we're not being responsible.
815
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,280
And before you know it
you have become trapped
816
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
in a cage of fear of your own making.
817
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,760
And then when we go out into the world
we take that cage with us.
818
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080
And anything that's different
is perceived negatively.
819
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,160
And that attitude is an effective blinder.
820
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,000
It makes you incapable
of seeing other things
821
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,360
because your biggest concern is safety.
822
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,240
Safety.
823
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,840
But once you've crossed that barrier
and you go out of your cage
824
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,920
and you come forward openhandedly
and you get to know the animal,
825
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,320
even if it's a dangerous animal,
once that happens
826
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,040
you will care about the animal.
827
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,960
[narrator] Hannah came to Guadalupe
to see if it was possible for a mermaid
828
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,360
to swim with a Great White.
829
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,800
But the real demon she faced
wasn't the one in the water.
830
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,640
I was absolutely petrified of sharks.
831
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,280
I'd had all my friends and family
writing me emails
832
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,680
just saying, "Please don't do this.
Nothing's worth the risk."
833
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,760
[narrator] But as she observed
Bruce's interaction with the other divers,
834
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,760
her perceptions began to change.
835
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,480
To see you guys go and do fin rides
and stuff like that, it's...
836
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,520
It's beyond
what I thought would be possible,
837
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,440
and to see that they don't even flinch.
838
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,400
[narrator] But just because something
worked once or twice
839
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,600
doesn't mean it will work every time
840
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,760
and there is a fine line
between confidence and carelessness.
841
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,400
You should never take animals for granted.
842
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,240
And you should never take any wild animal
and just accept
843
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,360
that this is going to always happen.
844
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,480
[narrator] The crew of the Captain Jack
have shown that it is possible
845
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,080
to interact safely
with the Great White shark.
846
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,200
But they've also learned
that the variables to such an interaction
847
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,920
are exceedingly complex,
848
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
if not entirely mysterious.
849
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,160
-Where's the shark?
-[man] Right there.
850
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,720
No way. I don't like that.
851
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Visibility is deteriorating,
got about 15 to 25 foot of visibility.
852
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,000
Don't think it's very safe of an idea.
853
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,360
I guess the greatest risk
or the greatest danger would be
854
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,480
of a shark making a mistake, so to speak.
855
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,120
They don't have hands
to touch things with.
856
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,680
They investigate everything
with their mouth.
857
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,960
The biggest problem
with the Great White shark is its size.
858
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,960
If you go wading in a pond
859
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
and a bunch of little minnows
start biting at your toes...
860
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,280
"Aren't they cute", is what you might say.
861
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,080
But if the minnow weighs 5,000 pounds
it isn't so cute.
862
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,440
The behavior is the same.
863
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360
In one case it tickles,
in the other case it's fatal.
864
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,000
[narrator] For Hannah to swim with
the Great Whites, she must deal with risks
865
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,160
which are far greater
than those faced by Brandon or Mark.
866
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,200
[guitar music]
867
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,080
[Lacinak] Brandon and Mark
got a wet suit on, they've got a mask.
868
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,720
I wouldn't want to do that without a mask.
Little goggles are hard to see out of.
869
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Everybody who's swimming
with sharks has something in their hands,
870
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,360
whether it's a big camera
or a stick or a spear-fishing gun.
871
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,640
I'm in there, and I've got nothing.
It's just me.
872
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:35,800
[narrator] And Hannah is breathing
compressed air off of Andy's tank.
873
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,080
That means that
if she chooses to swim towards the shark,
874
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,960
she will have to swim away
from her air supply.
875
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,720
And because Andy is weighed down
with extra tanks and a camera,
876
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,880
there is absolutely no way
he can keep up with her.
877
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,760
Now Hannah can hold her breath
for a very long time.
878
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,120
But eventually she will either
have to turn her tail towards the shark
879
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,040
or escape to the surface.
880
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,840
And that is not the place you want to be
with sharks circling around underneath
881
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,720
because that is
how they identify their prey.
882
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,640
And my silhouette looks
like a skinny, anorexic elephant seal
883
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:14,800
and if they're feeling hungry,
they might just think, well, close enough.
884
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440
[narrator] If the greatest danger
of working with Bruce
885
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,760
is that he could make a mistake,
then how safe is it
886
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,240
to introduce him to something
that is half human and half fish?
887
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,280
When I listened to my inner self
888
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,680
and got past the actual fear,
889
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,240
it became clear that it was...
definitely a journey I wanted to take.
890
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,520
[spherical music]
891
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,000
I feel so much like the bait right now.
892
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,760
I can't believe I'm doing this.
893
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,320
I mean, people are always telling me...
you look like a six foot shiny lure.
894
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
[fast electronic music]
895
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,800
[spherical music]
896
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,040
[narrator] As Hannah watches the sharks
circle her from the safety of the cage,
897
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,040
she can't help but think about
all the unknowns that are waiting for her,
898
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,040
just a few inches away.
899
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,360
Will Bruce's incredible senses
be able to distinguish the difference
900
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,160
between the mermaid tail
and that of an elephant seal?
901
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,320
Will he be curious enough
to approach Hannah
902
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,000
but not so curious
that he comes in for an exploratory bite?
903
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,360
And, perhaps most importantly,
this is the open ocean,
904
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,720
and while the goal is to swim with Bruce,
905
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,680
there is no real way to control
which sharks Hannah will encounter.
906
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,960
What if it’s Mao?
907
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Or even a new shark whose history
and personality remain unknown.
908
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,440
No one, not Hoover,
Thad, Mauricio, or anyone else
909
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,880
can predict what Hannah will experience
when she swims out
910
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,680
into the unknown.
911
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,960
It is, in the end, a leap of faith.
912
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,800
Faith in the shark, and,
913
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,640
perhaps more importantly,
faith in herself.
914
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,480
[Ode to Joy]
915
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,640
[Frasier] That moment,
when I actually took off towards a shark,
916
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,640
wearing the mermaid tail,
something clicks inside my head,
917
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:33,040
and I feel like I am literally
at one with the ocean.
918
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,840
[Ode to Joy]
919
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,560
[guitar music]
920
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,600
[narrator] Hanna swims among the sharks
at Guadalupe Island for six straight days.
921
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,160
[Casagrande] The shark is back.
922
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,760
-[Fraser] The shark is back?
-[Hoover] He's back?
923
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,240
[narrator] And not one of the sharks
responds to her, even for a second,
924
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,160
as anything remotely resembling
a food source.
925
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,360
So what exactly does this prove?
926
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,040
Can we say definitively
that Bruce's incredible senses
927
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,280
allowed him to instantly differentiate
between the mermaid
928
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,400
and the animals he usually hunts?
929
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Or maybe he was acclimated
to swimming with divers
930
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,520
by the positive interactions
he had with Brandon and Mark.
931
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,320
Maybe Bruce is just a very sweet shark
932
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,240
or maybe
he just didn't happen to be hungry.
933
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,280
The answer could be all of those or none
934
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,120
because the truth is that Hannah's swim,
like the dorsal rides,
935
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,280
critter cam and every bit
of Mauricio's data
936
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,480
are merely tiny clues in a vast mystery.
937
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,960
But the crew of the Captain Jack knows
that even the tiniest step
938
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,240
brings them a little bit closer
to understanding
939
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,360
the deep complexity
of the Great White shark.
940
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,800
And as they prepare
for the long journey home,
941
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,680
they know
942
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,240
that just below the surface
another long journey is about to begin
943
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,560
for a Great White shark named Bruce.
944
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,680
[guitar rock music]
945
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,080
[flute music]
946
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,360
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