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Man: I've lived in
Washington, D.C., for 20 years.
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It's where I met Dean,
playing pick-up basketball,
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And made a life
for myself.
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But no matter how long
you've been away from home
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Or how much you've changed,
the place where you were
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Born and raised always stays
somewhere deep inside.
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For me, that place
was Oil City,
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A small town
with small-town values
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In the hills
of western Pennsylvania.
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I was the youngest
in a big irish catholic family.
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Mom was a nurse,
and dad was
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Custodian at the catholic
school we all attended.
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We didn't have much money,
but life was good,
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And I didn't have a care
in the world.
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As I got older, I started
to feel different.
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By the time I was a teen,
I knew I was gay.
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Terrified of losing my friends
and maybe even my family,
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I kept silent
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And managed to get by.
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As soon as I graduated
high school,
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I got out of town.
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I went off to college,
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Joined the Peace Corps,
and found myself
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Identifying with others who had
been silenced.
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I ended up in Washington, D.C.
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When Dean and I fell in love
and got married,
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I decided to do
what I wish
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I could have done
a long time ago --
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Be open about who I was
back in my hometown.
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I put our wedding announcement
in the Oil City paper,
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The Derrick.
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It didn't take long
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For the letters
to start pouring in.
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Woman:
"Editor: Common sense tells us
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Marriage is between
a man and a woman."
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Man: "I am shaking with anger
as I write this."
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Woman:
"I was sick to my stomach
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When I saw and read
the announcement..."
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Man:
"Homosexuality is immoral."
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Man: "It would be better
for you not to have been born.
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Think about that."
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The reactions
to my wedding announcement
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Were discouraging, but they
didn't really surprise me.
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Then I got a letter
I didn't expect.
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"Dear Mr. Wilson,
I searched
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"for your address
in Washington, D.C.,
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"after I saw your wedding
announcement in the paper.
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"I'm the mother
of a 16-year-old boy
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"who is being treated unjustly
because he is gay.
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"I was told you were
born and raised in Oil City,
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"so I feel
a connection to you.
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"Last night, my son,
C.J., cried for three hours
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"after being abused in public
because of being gay.
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"I'm so afraid for him.
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"I don't know where else
to turn.
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"Please help if you can.
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Sincerely,
Kathy Springer."
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Kathy's letter
made me realize
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That the controversy
about our wedding announcement
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Wasn't just
about gay marriage.
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It was about
the very existence
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Of openly gay people
in Oil City.
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Here it was, 25 years after
my own fear of being found out
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Forced me to live in silence,
and it didn't seem
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To be any easier
to be gay in my hometown.
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I wanted to go back
to Oil City and see
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If there was anything
Dean and I could do to help.
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Documenting people's stories
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Seemed like a good place
to start.
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So I asked Dean
to grab the camera.
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♫ I dreamed of fires burning ♫
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♫ low ♫
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♫ in my head ♫
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♫ on a map below ♫
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♫ like an old friend ♫
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♫ that I used to know ♫
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♫ I've got seven hours ♫
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♫ and 15 miles to go ♫
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♫ instead ♫
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♫ and ain't it good ♫
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♫ to be back home? ♫
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Young man:
This was my school.
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Every day when the bus stopped
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And I walked through that door
to my locker
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Became eight hours
of pure hell.
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Wilson:
What went on in there?
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Well, kids would come by,
hit me with my locker,
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I'd fall on the ground,
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My books
would fly everywhere.
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I was slammed
into the lockers,
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Hit with stuff,
being yelled, "faggot."
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Yep.
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This hall
was always lovely.
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I'd have to walk
through a crowd
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of kids, and there would
always definitely be
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some tripping going on
or shoving or pushing.
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Grab my backpack
and yanking me,
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And stupid stuff.
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What did you feel inside
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When that kind of stuff
was happening?
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Terrified.
Nobody cared.
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None of the teachers
cared.
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None of
the administrators cared.
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They always gave
a deaf ear
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And a blind eye.
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They'd watch everything,
never say a word.
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Wilson:
I wanted to understand
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What was behind the anti-gay
sentiment in the area.
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It seemed like
talking with people
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Who denounced our wedding
announcement in the paper
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Would be a logical place
to start.
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Only one couple
agreed to be interviewed --
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Pastor Mark Micklos
and his wife, Diana.
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If I grant two men
the right to get married,
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What's wrong with incest?
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Or polygamy or --
and it would just,
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Just expand,
and I think that things --
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I think at times
we've seen that happen.
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In plumbing,
there's fittings,
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and they're called
male and female fittings.
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And you could probably
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plumb a house
with all male fittings,
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but it seems like the design
is for male and female.
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Not for two likes
to be together.
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It was hard to listen to what
the Micklosses were saying,
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But the fact that they
invited us to their home
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and we were talking
seemed like an opening.
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When I asked them why
they had taken the trouble
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to write about
our wedding announcement,
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they told me that their church
had received an alert
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that asked members
to write in protest.
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It was sent
by the Pennsylvania arm
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Of the American Family
Association,
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A conservative values
organization
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based in Mississippi.
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How did they key in
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on our little wedding
announcement so fast?
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It turns out that the AFA's
chapter president,
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Diane Gramley,
lives right there in the area
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and has a program
on a local radio station.
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Woman: Welcome to
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"American Family Focus
on Pennsylvania issues,"
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A weekly program
which discusses
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some of the happenings
that are of concern
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to the family
and those who hold
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traditional values
in Pennsylvania.
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And now your host,
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Diane Gramley, State Director
of American Family Association
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of Pennsylvania.
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Gramley: The question
comes down to:
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should a lifestyle that will
result in the destruction
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Of traditional marriage
and the natural family --
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not even mentioning
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the physical, mental,
and psychological dangers
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to those involved
in this lifestyle --
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be normalized and codified
into the laws of the land?
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Those involved in this
lifestyle are sinners,
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and they need to accept
the saving grace
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of Jesus Christ,
just like you and me.
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Wilson: Back when
I was growing up,
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People didn't talk about
lifestyle so openly.
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And at my house,
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sexuality or being gay
wasn't discussed at all.
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Even though right on our street,
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just two doors down
from our house,
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we had a neighbor with
a rainbow flag on her door.
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Woman: I've lived
in this community
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since I was 17 years old,
and I've always been open.
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I mean, I never wore
my sexuality on a sleeve,
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but people always
knew who I was.
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Nobody was ever negative to me,
except one occasion.
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I was hired at this firm,
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and I worked there
about six months,
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and then the president
of the company,
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after the Christmas party --
and I took my partner --
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came in a few days later
and fired me.
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Said he couldn't have the likes
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of somebody like me
working for the company.
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Okay.
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Be good, you guys.
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Come here.
Come on.
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This is my house
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where my stepdad
sells smelly birds.
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Wilson: "choo-kers?"
chukars or something like that?
Chukars.
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Chukars, quails,
and pheasants.
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Probably stinks.
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Yeah, it stinks.
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Okay, the smell is
a little too much.
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Okay, it's a little
too real.
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That is not a place for --
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Bills: The first day we came
back from Christmas vacation,
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this kid, Richie,,
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who everybody's known
he was gay since, like,
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the day he was born,
came back to school.
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And I went into
my history class,
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last period of the day,
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and some kid stood up
and came over to him --
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'cause he was
standing by the door
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'cause he didn't have
a seat or anything yet --
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and some kid was like,
"hey, are you a faggot?"
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And I stood up,
and I got in his face,
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and I was like,
"why you got to call him that?
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"What did he do to you?
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"he's just standing there,
hasn't said a word to anybody.
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Leave him alone."
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And he's like, "What? So are
you a hard-ass homo then?"
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He's like, "You think
you can take me?"
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And I was like, "Dude,
I might be a faggot,
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but I'm more of a man
than you'll be."
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And he's like,
"So you're admitting it?"
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And I was like,
"I am admitting
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"that if you say another
word to me like that again,
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I am going to take
your teeth out."
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There was a lot he
didn't even tell me,
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you know, at first,
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because he'd come home,
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and he'd be real quiet,
and he'd go to his room,
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and he wouldn't
come out for hours.
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I said, "You know, c.J.,
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"there is nothing you could
possibly be in this world
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that would ever make
me stop loving you."
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So then, finally,
one day, he says,
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"I'm tired of denying
who I am,
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"and I'm tired
of the abuse
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"and the harassment
that gays take,
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"and I'm just
coming out with it.
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I don't care."
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Wilson: Kathy had mentioned
on the phone that c.J.
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wanted to make videos himself,
so we gave him a camera
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and helped him get started
by filming one of his friends.
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Hamer: And if you want
a close-up,
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you go like that.
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Oops. Or whatever.
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And if you want far away,
you go like that.
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So you try it.
Film something.
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That's awesome.
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I was hoping c.J.
Would use his new camera
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to shine some light
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on what life was like
for him as a gay teen.
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For practice, I asked him
to join us at a concert
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I helped to organize
featuring Namoli Brennet.
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Namoli's a transgendered
musician.
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She's also from a small town
and lives her life very openly.
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Maybe it was
the activist in me,
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but I thought she might
be an inspiration
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for folks in Oil City.
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♫ You don't know when
you're gonna find me ♫
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♫ You don't know when
you're gonna take me ♫
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♫ home ♫
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♫ home ♫
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Wilson: Oil City became
a real boomtown back in 1859
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when colonel Edwin Drake
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drilled the first oil well
in the United States.
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The area had about 100 years of
growth and prosperity,
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but by the time I came along,
the wells had dried up,
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and jobs and people
were moving out.
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It had become the sort
of rust belt town
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that time seemed
to be leaving behind,
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Where things didn't change much
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and outsiders were viewed
with suspicion.
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Like many small towns,
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Oil City is trying
to make a comeback.
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If it can figure out
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how to use
its small-town spirt
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to make everyone
feel welcome there,
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it just might happen.
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Brennet: ♫ I can be ♫
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♫ myself ♫
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♫ and no one else ♫
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♫ goes home ♫
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Thanks, everybody.
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Wilson: The biggest event
of the year in Oil City
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is the oil heritage parade.
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Most people come out
to watch their kids March
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or their friends ride around
silly floats.
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Even in the pouring rain.
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So I wasn't expecting to see
an anti-gay marriage protest
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led by none other
than Diane Gramley
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of the American
Family Association.
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She'd already refused
several requests
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to be formally interviewed,
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so I tried a more
direct approach.
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Hi, Diane.
How are you?
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Fine, and you?
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I'm not going to be part
of your documentary.
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Yeah, we just wanted
to know why
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You're so actively seeking
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to discriminate against
gay and lesbian people.
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We talked about it
on the phone.
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Well, why do you think
that they don't deserve
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to live freely
in society as you do?
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They have every right
to live freely,
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and they are living
freely in society.
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I would like to know why
you encourage children
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to participate in
a dangerous lifestyle.
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Hey, Joe,
how you doing?
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Good, and you?
Nice to see you.
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Good seeing you.
Yeah.
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Gramley: There've been
homosexuals throughout society,
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but they have not attempted
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to redefine marriage
and family as they are today.
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Everything else with gay
people is okay, right?
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They can teach school.
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If they have a job,
and they're doing their job,
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they have every right
to have that job.
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And they could be out on
the job and tell people
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that they're gay
when they're asked?
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No, 'cause that's
promoting a lifestyle.
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Well, I know that.
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Wilson: Things had
become increasingly bad
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at c.J.'s high school.
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When he finally complained about
the abuse he was receiving,
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the assistant principal
blamed him for the trouble
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and called the State Police.
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Kathy decided to take c.J.
out of school
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and go to the school board
for answers.
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All: One nation under God,
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Indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.
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Woman: Any other
business to enter?
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My name's --
oh, I'm sorry.
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Please state your name
for the record.
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My name is Kathy Springer.
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Have you implemented,
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or are you
going to implement
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a change in how
discrimination is handled
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in this school district?
328
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I recently had
to pull my son out
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because of discrimination
and how it was handled.
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Are you -- is there a better
way of handling things?
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Man: Ma'am, do me a favor.
Will you give me a call?
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Okay? This isn't
the time to --
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I just, as a taxpayer,
wanted to know if --
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you know, should I decide
to send my son back?
335
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Are there going
to be any changes?
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That's all.
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There have been
discussions taking place,
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and there
have been issues
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not only with myself
and Mr. Richmond,
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Mr. Forrester,
and the other principals,
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so I don't know
if that's --
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But, please, feel free
to give me a call, okay?
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It was like, "oh, god,
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give her her five minutes
and get her out of here."
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I really don't see that they've
seen us as a threat or anything.
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We were just an annoyance.
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Mm-hmm.
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Wilson: Shortly after
kathy's appearance,
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the school board did
propose a plan
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for inclusive
anti-discrimination training.
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But there was suddenly
an unusual amount
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of opposition from
the community,
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especially from
an African-American Pastor
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who wanted the training
to focus only on race
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and not even mention
sexual orientation.
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A Derrick reporter discovered
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the reason for
the racial outcry.
358
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Diane Gramley had sent out
another action alert.
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This one accused
the school district
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of trying to hijack civil rights
to promote homosexuality.
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The diversity training
never happened.
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I have to admit,
in this environment,
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it was a clever strategy
364
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to pit one minority group
against another.
365
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I'll tell you
what we're doing.
366
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We got married
a couple years ago,
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and we put our wedding
announcement in the paper,
368
00:18:05,987 --> 00:18:08,876
and it turned into this, like,
controversy or whatever.
369
00:18:08,951 --> 00:18:11,239
I got beat up
about a month ago.
370
00:18:11,316 --> 00:18:13,302
What?
Oh, yeah.
371
00:18:13,379 --> 00:18:17,016
I never thought people
were racist or anything.
372
00:18:17,093 --> 00:18:21,030
I'm Arab, and this girl
wouldn't stop talking crap,
373
00:18:21,107 --> 00:18:25,007
and I faced her in lunch,
and she ploughed me down.
374
00:18:25,083 --> 00:18:27,671
There was blood
all over me.
375
00:18:27,747 --> 00:18:29,660
I didn't have a chance.
376
00:18:29,736 --> 00:18:31,610
This place is rough.
377
00:18:31,687 --> 00:18:34,499
If you are not a man
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with white skin
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and who likes to do
the missionary position,
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it's over.
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Wilson: Although gay
people are everywhere,
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we're not always visible.
383
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,507
Roxanne and some of her friends
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00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:54,945
wanted to change that
in Oil City.
385
00:18:55,022 --> 00:18:58,359
They put together a volunteer
group to participate
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in community activities
like town cleanup day.
387
00:19:00,611 --> 00:19:02,074
What are you guys up
to today?
388
00:19:02,149 --> 00:19:03,949
Man: Everybody that's
driving by thinks
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00:19:04,026 --> 00:19:06,463
that we're on work release
and that's why we're out here.
390
00:19:06,539 --> 00:19:08,488
Wilson:
Would you mind saying
391
00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:10,702
a little bit of
a word right now?
392
00:19:12,429 --> 00:19:14,867
Just being out in
the community doing something,
393
00:19:14,942 --> 00:19:16,593
just helping.
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00:19:16,668 --> 00:19:19,669
It's kind of a nasty day,
but we did it anyway.
395
00:19:19,744 --> 00:19:20,981
Hey, Greg.
396
00:19:21,058 --> 00:19:22,294
What?
397
00:19:22,371 --> 00:19:24,471
Can you say
a little bit
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00:19:24,547 --> 00:19:27,021
about what
you're doing today?
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Wilson: Cleanup day was supposed
to be a community-wide event,
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00:19:30,812 --> 00:19:33,024
but we only saw
one other volunteer
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who wasn't part
of Roxanne's group.
402
00:19:35,389 --> 00:19:37,001
So I asked her,
403
00:19:37,078 --> 00:19:40,077
"If there were a visible gay
and lesbian group in Oil City
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00:19:40,154 --> 00:19:42,216
would anyone in
the community object?"
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00:19:42,292 --> 00:19:45,143
I guess you're going to have
radicals everywhere,
406
00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:48,368
and they'll find a way to
articulate what bothers them.
407
00:19:48,445 --> 00:19:52,608
But how can you target people
who are doing something good?
408
00:19:52,684 --> 00:19:54,446
You know?
409
00:19:54,522 --> 00:20:01,386
Brennet: ♫ Ain't it good
to be back home? ♫
410
00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:06,527
Me being me?
Yeah..
411
00:20:06,602 --> 00:20:08,290
I definitely
want to see that.
412
00:20:08,366 --> 00:20:10,390
Oh, no.
413
00:20:10,467 --> 00:20:12,717
C.J., is there
anything on there
414
00:20:12,793 --> 00:20:14,667
you don't want me to see?
415
00:20:18,233 --> 00:20:21,120
Is this on?
416
00:20:21,197 --> 00:20:23,559
Hello out there.
417
00:20:23,635 --> 00:20:25,922
Okay.
418
00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:38,415
Boy: That hurt?
419
00:20:38,492 --> 00:20:39,879
♫ I'm feeling so unique ♫
420
00:20:39,954 --> 00:20:41,567
♫ I'm feeling really funky ♫
421
00:20:41,643 --> 00:20:43,781
♫ I kind of like this beat ♫
422
00:20:43,856 --> 00:20:45,956
♫ could this be a dream? ♫
423
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:51,547
♫ Sometimes it's hard
to tell the difference ♫
424
00:20:51,622 --> 00:20:53,234
♫ I made ♫
425
00:20:53,311 --> 00:20:55,410
♫ too many hazy nights ♫
426
00:20:55,486 --> 00:20:59,237
♫ too many lonely days ♫
427
00:20:59,313 --> 00:21:01,750
Stop, c.J.
428
00:21:01,827 --> 00:21:04,114
♫ set me free ♫
429
00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,215
♫ set me free ♫
430
00:21:06,291 --> 00:21:08,391
♫ come on and set me free ♫
431
00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:11,205
♫ I got to set me free ♫
432
00:21:13,157 --> 00:21:15,294
Jesus Christ!
433
00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:19,570
I think I got spina bifida.
Cut.
434
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:23,698
I know.
435
00:21:23,774 --> 00:21:26,211
Boy: He went "Oops."
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00:21:26,287 --> 00:21:28,312
Wilson: How do you feel,
as a parent,
437
00:21:28,389 --> 00:21:30,263
that the cyber school
is the option --
438
00:21:30,339 --> 00:21:33,002
that I had to turn to?
439
00:21:33,077 --> 00:21:35,441
I don't like the idea, no.
440
00:21:35,516 --> 00:21:39,755
My son, I wanted him to
be able to be involved
441
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:43,356
with all the other
school activities,
442
00:21:43,433 --> 00:21:47,070
the camaraderie,
you know, everything,
443
00:21:47,146 --> 00:21:50,747
the prom, the whole schmear,
you know.
444
00:21:50,823 --> 00:21:53,673
And I feel
that he was gypped.
445
00:21:53,749 --> 00:21:58,025
He doesn't have
that interaction
446
00:21:58,101 --> 00:22:00,876
That I think he needs.
447
00:22:00,952 --> 00:22:03,427
Wilson: I was hoping
that the camera
448
00:22:03,504 --> 00:22:05,303
would help c.J.'s education.
449
00:22:05,379 --> 00:22:07,216
I asked him to film something
450
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:09,805
a little more
intellectual next time.
451
00:22:09,881 --> 00:22:13,444
Hitchcock: You know, one thing
about living in a small town
452
00:22:13,521 --> 00:22:16,257
is that the gene pool
is so limited.
453
00:22:16,334 --> 00:22:20,610
You know, trying to meet
somebody is really hard.
454
00:22:20,686 --> 00:22:23,349
Wilson: So who's this special
lady that's in your life?
455
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:24,887
Her name is linda.
456
00:22:24,963 --> 00:22:26,875
Where's she at??
457
00:22:26,951 --> 00:22:28,976
I'll never forget
how excited you were
458
00:22:29,053 --> 00:22:30,889
when I talked to you
on the phone,
459
00:22:30,965 --> 00:22:32,841
and you said,
"oh, I met somebody."
460
00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:34,753
Henderson: Well,
the cool part about it
461
00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:36,930
is everybody's saying
the same thing about me.
462
00:22:37,005 --> 00:22:39,143
People asking me what in
the world's going on
463
00:22:39,219 --> 00:22:41,132
'cause I'm running
around smiling a lot.
464
00:22:41,207 --> 00:22:44,208
You know,
all of the sudden,
465
00:22:44,283 --> 00:22:48,710
I've been telling people
I have a family now.
466
00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:51,823
Hitchcock: In some ways, she's
the total opposite of me.
467
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:55,050
You know, I can be aggressive
and antagonistic,
468
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:57,601
and she's just kind of quiet
and the peacemaker,
469
00:22:57,677 --> 00:23:01,652
and she's just calm.
470
00:23:01,729 --> 00:23:05,217
And she's very gifted.
She's great with people.
471
00:23:05,293 --> 00:23:09,306
She is the best thing
that ever happened to me.
472
00:23:09,382 --> 00:23:13,132
Henderson:
♫ I was with George Washington ♫
473
00:23:13,209 --> 00:23:16,509
♫ one night at valley forge ♫
474
00:23:16,585 --> 00:23:21,011
♫ "why do the soldiers
freeze here like they do?" ♫
475
00:23:21,087 --> 00:23:25,663
♫ he said,
"men will suffer, fight ♫
476
00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:29,227
♫ "even die for what is right ♫
477
00:23:29,303 --> 00:23:32,041
♫ "even though they know ♫
478
00:23:32,117 --> 00:23:35,529
♫ they're only
passing through" ♫
479
00:23:35,606 --> 00:23:38,569
♫ passing through ♫
480
00:23:38,645 --> 00:23:40,782
♫ passing through ♫
481
00:23:40,858 --> 00:23:44,008
♫ sometimes happy,
sometimes blue ♫
482
00:23:44,085 --> 00:23:47,535
♫ glad that I ran into you ♫
483
00:23:47,611 --> 00:23:50,124
♫ I've some little time ♫
484
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,864
♫ now I'm just
passing through ♫
485
00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,527
Wilson: Whoo.
486
00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:00,403
Beautiful voice.
487
00:24:00,479 --> 00:24:02,992
Thank you.
488
00:24:03,067 --> 00:24:05,131
Did you look
at a lot of cars,
489
00:24:05,206 --> 00:24:07,981
or is this, you know,
just kind of came up?
490
00:24:08,057 --> 00:24:10,195
Yeah, like I got a couple
grand to throw around
491
00:24:10,271 --> 00:24:12,070
on a nice,
fancy-schmancy car.
492
00:24:12,147 --> 00:24:14,697
$150.
That was it.
493
00:24:14,773 --> 00:24:16,872
It wasn't even
into the 200s.
494
00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:22,238
Still have to get a new
exhaust, battery, tires,
495
00:24:22,313 --> 00:24:25,614
the title transferred,
my license,
496
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:28,278
and then I'll be
on the road.
497
00:24:30,492 --> 00:24:33,268
I don't think I'll
probably ever be able
498
00:24:33,343 --> 00:24:35,705
to, like, walk down
through the streets
499
00:24:35,782 --> 00:24:37,582
of anywhere around here.
500
00:24:37,657 --> 00:24:40,133
I used to have, like,
a reputation and stuff
501
00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:42,121
as a bad-ass
and all this stuff,
502
00:24:42,197 --> 00:24:44,409
but right now,
my life consists
503
00:24:44,486 --> 00:24:47,561
of being around my animals
and my garage
504
00:24:47,637 --> 00:24:49,287
with my mommy.
505
00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:51,088
What are you
thinking about?
506
00:24:51,163 --> 00:24:52,588
What am I thinking about?
507
00:24:52,664 --> 00:24:54,765
When you're sitting
here in your car.
508
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,616
Nothing, really.
509
00:24:57,691 --> 00:25:00,016
Eventually,
once in a while, wondering
510
00:25:00,093 --> 00:25:03,918
if this thing will actually
ever leave this garage.
511
00:25:12,361 --> 00:25:14,723
Hey. How are you?
512
00:25:14,798 --> 00:25:16,936
Wilson: I wasn't sure
if we would hear
513
00:25:17,012 --> 00:25:18,737
from Pastor Micklos again,
514
00:25:18,814 --> 00:25:22,114
but when he called to invite us
to lunch with his family,
515
00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:25,040
I thought I'd see
where it would lead.
516
00:25:25,116 --> 00:25:27,741
When you contacted me
or I contacted you
517
00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:29,616
or however it occurred,
518
00:25:29,693 --> 00:25:31,755
one of the things
that I prayed
519
00:25:31,831 --> 00:25:34,419
was that you would
see Christ in us.
520
00:25:34,495 --> 00:25:37,533
I just don't see my life through
a Christian framework.
521
00:25:37,608 --> 00:25:40,947
That's just not how I want
to view the world, you know.
522
00:25:41,023 --> 00:25:43,610
But can we,
at some point though,
523
00:25:43,687 --> 00:25:46,086
get to a point where
we respect that
524
00:25:46,163 --> 00:25:47,963
and respect each other?
525
00:25:48,038 --> 00:25:50,138
Well, no.
526
00:25:52,015 --> 00:25:55,541
I mean, I can respect
your Christian beliefs,
527
00:25:55,616 --> 00:25:58,017
but if
528
00:25:58,093 --> 00:26:00,605
some of those beliefs
529
00:26:00,681 --> 00:26:03,232
are aimed at limiting
530
00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:06,271
other people's full
participation in society,
531
00:26:06,346 --> 00:26:08,596
No, I can't respect that.
532
00:26:08,672 --> 00:26:10,322
I have to struggle
against that.
533
00:26:10,398 --> 00:26:14,299
I can respect
the Mark Micklos that I know
534
00:26:14,375 --> 00:26:15,986
in hopes that he reaches
535
00:26:16,063 --> 00:26:18,200
a higher point
of enlightenment,
536
00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:20,226
and that I would
be his friend,
537
00:26:20,303 --> 00:26:22,252
you know,
through that process.
538
00:26:22,328 --> 00:26:24,391
And that's where we're at.
539
00:26:24,466 --> 00:26:26,904
Yeah.
540
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,334
Bills: What was
your first thought
541
00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:39,848
when I first came out?
542
00:26:39,923 --> 00:26:43,524
My first reaction
was probably...
543
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,400
I was probably shocked.
544
00:26:45,476 --> 00:26:46,901
Why?
545
00:26:46,976 --> 00:26:48,439
Just because --
546
00:26:48,514 --> 00:26:50,952
You think I was
putting on a front?
547
00:26:51,028 --> 00:26:55,378
No. I just didn't really
think you'd come out.
548
00:26:55,455 --> 00:26:56,767
Laura?
549
00:26:56,843 --> 00:26:58,117
Yes?
550
00:26:58,194 --> 00:26:59,806
Your turn.
551
00:26:59,882 --> 00:27:02,394
You have to ask me
a question.
552
00:27:02,471 --> 00:27:04,758
How did you feel when
Richie first came out?
553
00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:06,633
I was happy
for him and stuff.
554
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,585
You know, I was happy
for you, too,
555
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:10,198
'cause you finally
came out.
556
00:27:10,274 --> 00:27:12,974
Like, 'cause, you know,
if you're gay,
557
00:27:13,050 --> 00:27:16,425
you've always been gay,
but you finally came out,
558
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:19,426
so I don't know,
I was just happy for you.
559
00:27:19,578 --> 00:27:22,841
I could never
560
00:27:22,917 --> 00:27:25,280
deny who I am.
561
00:27:25,355 --> 00:27:28,393
I couldn't deny it.
562
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:30,344
I was trying to find
ways around it,
563
00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:32,445
but people kept
directing the question,
564
00:27:32,521 --> 00:27:34,809
"are you gay?" to my face.
565
00:27:34,885 --> 00:27:38,035
I didn't know what to say,
but I couldn't deny who I was,
566
00:27:38,111 --> 00:27:40,024
so I ended up having --
567
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,975
I ended up saying that,
"you know what, yeah.
568
00:27:45,052 --> 00:27:49,590
So what is it to you?
Big deal."
569
00:27:49,666 --> 00:27:54,580
And I guess it was
a big deal to everybody.
570
00:27:54,656 --> 00:27:57,919
I know that everybody cared
because at that day,
571
00:27:57,994 --> 00:27:59,907
everybody began to hate.
572
00:27:59,983 --> 00:28:03,659
I was no longer anybody
that anyone liked.
573
00:28:03,735 --> 00:28:06,735
Everybody hated c.J. Bills.
574
00:28:13,189 --> 00:28:16,076
Henderson: It's actually
rather phenomenal,
575
00:28:16,153 --> 00:28:19,191
and sometimes a little scary,
that so much has happened
576
00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:22,079
in such a short amount
of time.
577
00:28:22,156 --> 00:28:24,592
Wilson: Roxanne and linda
had decided
578
00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:26,469
to buy and renovate
the Latonia,
579
00:28:26,544 --> 00:28:27,856
a historic theater
580
00:28:27,933 --> 00:28:29,470
that had seen better days.
581
00:28:29,546 --> 00:28:30,820
They wanted to help
582
00:28:30,897 --> 00:28:33,896
revitalize downtown Oil City
by creating
583
00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:36,147
a space for special events.
584
00:28:36,224 --> 00:28:37,611
Hitchcock:
I came in for a massage
585
00:28:37,687 --> 00:28:40,312
One day, and my massage
therapist said,
586
00:28:40,388 --> 00:28:42,863
"you know, the original
chandelier is here --
587
00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,514
You gotta go see it."
588
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:48,190
She loaned me this tiny, little
itty-bitty flashlight,
589
00:28:48,267 --> 00:28:51,191
and I snuck up,
and the door was unlocked.
590
00:28:51,268 --> 00:28:53,630
The room was dark,
and I came in,
591
00:28:53,707 --> 00:28:57,270
and my little heart
just went pitter-patter.
592
00:28:57,346 --> 00:29:01,884
I could not believe something
like that was here in Oil City.
593
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,736
It just seemed almost criminal
to me that it was,
594
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:10,437
you know, just, just sitting.
595
00:29:10,514 --> 00:29:11,713
Hitchcock: The building
wasn't even really
596
00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:13,214
on the market --
we just called up the guy,
597
00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:14,939
said, "how much do you
want for it?"
598
00:29:15,015 --> 00:29:17,416
He told us, and we said,
"okay."
599
00:29:17,491 --> 00:29:18,803
let's sign papers,
600
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,867
And we just kind of went
from there.
601
00:29:20,943 --> 00:29:22,555
Henderson:
Once it's ready,
602
00:29:22,632 --> 00:29:24,543
there's got to be
a grand opening.
603
00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:27,470
Hitchcock: Yeah, 'cause I don't
think that chandelier
604
00:29:27,547 --> 00:29:29,909
Has been lit up
in probably 50 years.
605
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,834
Wilson: Wow.
606
00:30:00,411 --> 00:30:02,961
Wilson: Since C.J. told me
that he was sticking
607
00:30:03,037 --> 00:30:05,436
pretty close to home to avoid
being hassled,
608
00:30:05,513 --> 00:30:08,137
I hadn't seen him
in a while.
609
00:30:08,214 --> 00:30:09,601
His high school's homecoming
610
00:30:09,676 --> 00:30:11,926
was his first time
out of the house in months.
611
00:30:12,003 --> 00:30:14,778
Here comes c.J. Over there.
612
00:30:14,854 --> 00:30:17,554
He's walking by --
let's go.
613
00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:19,955
What's up, guys?
614
00:30:20,032 --> 00:30:21,981
Hey, what's up, dude?
How you doing?
615
00:30:22,057 --> 00:30:24,457
What's going on?
So how you been?
616
00:30:24,534 --> 00:30:25,995
Pretty peachy.
617
00:30:26,072 --> 00:30:27,384
Yeah?
618
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:28,734
Place good?
619
00:30:28,810 --> 00:30:29,860
I like your earrings.
620
00:30:29,935 --> 00:30:30,985
Thank you.
621
00:30:31,061 --> 00:30:33,049
Gotta make sure I look cute
622
00:30:33,125 --> 00:30:34,924
when I go out in public.
623
00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,751
Where'd the guys go?
624
00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:40,815
They didn't want
to be on camera, huh?
625
00:30:40,891 --> 00:30:45,354
I don't know.
They drifted somewhere.
626
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,056
Wilson: It was great
627
00:30:48,131 --> 00:30:49,931
to see C.J.
out of the house.
628
00:30:50,007 --> 00:30:54,020
But I didn't want to make him
nervous around his friends.
629
00:30:54,097 --> 00:30:58,372
I told him I'd catch up
with him later.
630
00:31:04,151 --> 00:31:05,988
Bills: When I was leaving
the game,
631
00:31:06,064 --> 00:31:08,464
there was a whole group
of skater kids outside,
632
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:09,927
Like, "are you still gay?"
633
00:31:10,003 --> 00:31:12,741
I went, "I ain't a faggot.
What you talking about?"
634
00:31:12,817 --> 00:31:14,241
And they were like, "oh, okay."
635
00:31:14,317 --> 00:31:17,130
And they just watched me
walk away and stuff,
636
00:31:17,206 --> 00:31:20,619
And I was like,
oh, god -- damn.
637
00:31:20,696 --> 00:31:22,570
Wilson: You know, once you
kind of come out,
638
00:31:22,647 --> 00:31:24,484
I mean, it's hard to, like --
639
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:25,909
Go back in?
640
00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:27,072
Yeah.
641
00:31:27,149 --> 00:31:28,385
Noticed.
642
00:31:28,461 --> 00:31:30,111
Yeah.
643
00:31:30,187 --> 00:31:33,488
I actually had people
talk to me
644
00:31:33,563 --> 00:31:34,875
on Friday.
645
00:31:34,952 --> 00:31:36,301
I never -- that hasn't happened
646
00:31:36,377 --> 00:31:37,727
since last year.
647
00:31:37,803 --> 00:31:39,902
Wilson: Yeah, we noticed
a lot of people
648
00:31:39,979 --> 00:31:42,416
came up and kind of greeted you,
gave you a hug.
649
00:31:42,493 --> 00:31:43,842
Mm-hmm.
650
00:31:43,918 --> 00:31:45,755
And that's because they think
651
00:31:45,831 --> 00:31:48,419
you're not what
they thought you were?
652
00:31:48,495 --> 00:31:49,882
Mm-mm, cover it up.
653
00:31:49,959 --> 00:31:53,483
At least until I get
away from here.
654
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,586
Springer: You shouldn't have to
live in denial, you know?
655
00:31:58,662 --> 00:32:00,312
But I know
there's been times
656
00:32:00,387 --> 00:32:02,300
Where he wished
he would have just
657
00:32:02,376 --> 00:32:04,963
kept his mouth shut,
and nobody would know, and --
658
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,139
Bills: Oh, every time
I go into public,
659
00:32:07,215 --> 00:32:09,804
I wish I wouldn't ever
opened my mouth.
660
00:32:09,879 --> 00:32:13,779
Every single day.
661
00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:15,205
It's hell.
662
00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,682
It's not like D.C.
Or New York,
663
00:32:17,757 --> 00:32:19,633
where everybody's liberal.
664
00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:22,371
I get threatened
to get killed.
665
00:32:22,447 --> 00:32:24,809
That ain't fun.
666
00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:32,951
Hi.
667
00:32:33,026 --> 00:32:35,539
Wilson: I'm here tonight
to say that I'm deeply concerned
668
00:32:35,616 --> 00:32:38,166
at the charges of harassment,
violence, and discrimination
669
00:32:38,241 --> 00:32:40,903
that have ruled the Franklin
school district
670
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:42,629
for the past year and a half.
671
00:32:42,706 --> 00:32:45,143
Gay students and students
of color at the high school
672
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:47,507
have been the primary targets
of these activities.
673
00:32:47,583 --> 00:32:50,095
Their ability
to speak for themselves
674
00:32:50,172 --> 00:32:51,972
is greatly hampered by fears
675
00:32:52,047 --> 00:32:54,785
of backlash
if they do so publicly.
676
00:32:54,861 --> 00:32:56,098
Death threats have been issued
677
00:32:56,175 --> 00:32:57,899
against students
in this school district
678
00:32:57,975 --> 00:33:00,337
and it just pains me
679
00:33:00,413 --> 00:33:02,251
that no action
has actually been taken.
680
00:33:02,327 --> 00:33:04,389
So thank you for accepting
these comments
681
00:33:04,466 --> 00:33:06,115
in the public record --
I appreciate it,
682
00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:07,690
and I look forward
to your response.
683
00:33:07,767 --> 00:33:10,054
Woman: Thank you.
684
00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:12,905
Any other visitors
at this time?
685
00:33:12,982 --> 00:33:15,756
Wilson: It was obvious
that the school board
686
00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,796
wasn't concerned about C.J.
or any gay student.
687
00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:22,547
But the problem wasn't
just with the school.
688
00:33:22,623 --> 00:33:25,886
Man: It can happen
to your town.
689
00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:27,499
AFA presents a look
at how
690
00:33:27,576 --> 00:33:30,238
a handful of homosexual
activists changed the very
691
00:33:30,314 --> 00:33:31,814
moral fiber of the city.
692
00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:33,014
They are taking over...
693
00:33:33,091 --> 00:33:34,402
Wilson: This video
is being promoted
694
00:33:34,478 --> 00:33:35,753
by a local Christian
radio station
695
00:33:35,829 --> 00:33:37,704
to counter increasingly visible
696
00:33:37,779 --> 00:33:39,204
gay people in Oil City.
697
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,517
As Christian people.
698
00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:42,393
Announcer: Learn
the strategies used
699
00:33:42,469 --> 00:33:44,194
by gay activists
and don't let this
700
00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:45,357
happen to your city.
701
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:46,858
Man:
If it's not happened
702
00:33:46,934 --> 00:33:48,058
in your town, get ready,
703
00:33:48,135 --> 00:33:49,484
'cause it is
going to happen.
704
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,359
Announcer: Purchase your copy
705
00:33:51,436 --> 00:33:54,136
or a five-pack
to share with others today,
706
00:33:54,212 --> 00:33:55,524
and spread the news.
707
00:33:55,601 --> 00:33:58,862
They're coming to your town.
708
00:34:06,217 --> 00:34:08,129
Is that too long?
709
00:34:08,206 --> 00:34:09,743
Henderson: No,
that's probably okay.
710
00:34:09,818 --> 00:34:11,918
That's my chainsaw,
by the way.
711
00:34:11,995 --> 00:34:13,081
Mine disappeared.
712
00:34:13,158 --> 00:34:15,332
I don't know
where mine went.
713
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:17,546
Wilson: You each have
your own chainsaw?
714
00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:18,935
I used to.
715
00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:20,285
Whose is bigger?
716
00:34:20,361 --> 00:34:22,573
Hers would be
bigger.
717
00:34:22,649 --> 00:34:25,762
I bet I've cut more wood
than she has, though.
718
00:34:25,838 --> 00:34:29,401
Narrator: Roxanne can complain
about a small gene pool,
719
00:34:29,478 --> 00:34:31,840
But she found
a really great mate.
720
00:34:31,915 --> 00:34:34,578
When Linda caught wind
of the AFA video
721
00:34:34,654 --> 00:34:36,342
about gays coming to town,
722
00:34:36,417 --> 00:34:38,630
she composed
a poetic response.
723
00:34:38,706 --> 00:34:40,356
Henderson:
Why do you suppose
724
00:34:40,432 --> 00:34:42,719
there are empty store fronts?S?
725
00:34:42,796 --> 00:34:45,121
They're choking
our town.
726
00:34:45,196 --> 00:34:49,323
Why do you suppose
there's a brain drain?
727
00:34:49,398 --> 00:34:51,836
They're choking
our town.
728
00:34:51,912 --> 00:34:56,488
Why do you suppose
there is no unique art?
729
00:34:56,564 --> 00:35:00,090
They're choking
our town.
730
00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:01,965
It's time for a change.
731
00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:07,067
Stop choking our town.
732
00:35:09,469 --> 00:35:10,669
You like that?
733
00:35:10,745 --> 00:35:12,358
Mm-hmm.
734
00:35:12,433 --> 00:35:14,496
Woman: Hi, guys!
735
00:35:14,571 --> 00:35:16,372
Come on in!
736
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,398
Wilson: Another case
of anti-gay discrimination
737
00:35:18,473 --> 00:35:21,623
had taken place several years
earlier in Titusville,
738
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,850
a town just up the road
from Oil City.
739
00:35:24,927 --> 00:35:27,626
It involved a student
named Tim Dahle.
740
00:35:27,703 --> 00:35:29,727
I thought he and his family
might be able
741
00:35:29,803 --> 00:35:31,565
to help Kathy and C.J.
figure out
742
00:35:31,642 --> 00:35:34,529
how to get their school district
to take them more seriously.
743
00:35:34,605 --> 00:35:35,917
Bills: The whole thing
started
744
00:35:35,994 --> 00:35:37,831
from me standing up
for one kid.
745
00:35:37,906 --> 00:35:39,144
And no one ever,
746
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,508
ever once said
a word to anybody.
747
00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:43,346
They just stood there,
my best friends,
748
00:35:43,422 --> 00:35:44,658
people that I've known
749
00:35:44,735 --> 00:35:46,609
since I was this big.
750
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,598
They just rolled
their eyes.
751
00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:49,873
Man: You call them
your friends,
752
00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:51,037
you trust them,
and then
753
00:35:51,112 --> 00:35:52,463
all of a sudden,
they turn on you.
754
00:35:52,538 --> 00:35:54,638
I've been there.
755
00:35:54,715 --> 00:35:57,490
What really irritates me
is the fact
756
00:35:57,566 --> 00:36:00,153
that I used to
go out of my way
757
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:05,293
to actually cause bodily harm
to gay people.
758
00:36:05,369 --> 00:36:09,533
Okay, we used to use it
like a sport, you know?
759
00:36:09,608 --> 00:36:11,596
I mean, it was stupid.
760
00:36:11,671 --> 00:36:13,434
And then when you
came out of the closet
761
00:36:13,509 --> 00:36:15,835
and told me that you were gay,
I thought,
762
00:36:15,911 --> 00:36:17,748
"oh, no, no, no.
You can't be."
763
00:36:17,825 --> 00:36:19,436
And I got to thinking,
764
00:36:19,512 --> 00:36:21,725
that gay kid's yours.
765
00:36:21,801 --> 00:36:23,713
You going to disown him
766
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:26,789
because of his
sexual orientation?
767
00:36:26,866 --> 00:36:29,866
Or are you going to love him
for who he is inside?
768
00:36:29,942 --> 00:36:31,554
And I thought,
"the hell with it.
769
00:36:31,630 --> 00:36:33,655
I'm going to love him
for who he is inside."
770
00:36:33,731 --> 00:36:37,782
All right, and I tell you what,
you try to shed 40 years
771
00:36:37,858 --> 00:36:40,671
Of hatred overnight.
772
00:36:40,747 --> 00:36:42,134
It's just not done.
773
00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:45,661
It's something you
got to learn how to live with,
774
00:36:45,736 --> 00:36:48,474
deal with, and you
got to be sincere.
775
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:49,787
I mean, he's my kid.
776
00:36:49,864 --> 00:36:52,226
I'm not going to turn my back
on him.
777
00:36:52,302 --> 00:36:56,277
I won't -- I won't never
turn my back on him.
778
00:36:56,353 --> 00:36:59,128
I -- I gotta eat.
See you guys.
779
00:36:59,205 --> 00:37:01,230
Wilson: All right.
Thanks, Ron.
780
00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:04,268
Woman: I can't believe
you got him on camera.
781
00:37:04,344 --> 00:37:05,656
Shock of all shocks!
782
00:37:05,733 --> 00:37:09,858
I never thought
that would happen.
783
00:37:09,935 --> 00:37:11,321
Wilson:
It seemed like Kathy
784
00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:12,973
really perked up
when Diane told her
785
00:37:13,048 --> 00:37:15,598
that their lawsuit had forced
the school district
786
00:37:15,674 --> 00:37:17,249
to implement diversity training
787
00:37:17,325 --> 00:37:19,162
that included
sexual orientation.
788
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,776
Diane: We were
the first people
789
00:37:20,852 --> 00:37:22,163
in all these years
790
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,714
to stand up
to our school system.
791
00:37:24,791 --> 00:37:27,641
And it was because what they
were doing was wrong.
792
00:37:27,718 --> 00:37:28,916
Yeah.
793
00:37:28,993 --> 00:37:30,530
Springer: It breaks my heart.
794
00:37:30,606 --> 00:37:33,381
I mean, I could just cry.
795
00:37:33,457 --> 00:37:36,195
And that there are
other kids out there
796
00:37:36,271 --> 00:37:38,745
going through
similar situations --
797
00:37:38,822 --> 00:37:40,884
None of this
should ever happen.
798
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,035
I don't know that I'll
change the world,
799
00:37:44,112 --> 00:37:47,863
but if I can even just
educate a few people, like,
800
00:37:47,938 --> 00:37:52,439
look, they weren't put on this
earth to be tortured like this.
801
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,205
We're getting ready
for the grand opening.
802
00:38:00,281 --> 00:38:01,855
And all of a sudden,
803
00:38:01,932 --> 00:38:05,945
Diane Gramley sent out
a letter
804
00:38:06,021 --> 00:38:10,822
warning everyone about
how dangerous we are and --
805
00:38:10,899 --> 00:38:13,223
we have this
homosexual agenda.
806
00:38:13,299 --> 00:38:16,112
And her brother
goes to work with a guy
807
00:38:16,188 --> 00:38:19,038
whose minister stood
right in the pulpit
808
00:38:19,114 --> 00:38:21,514
and said to boycott
the Latonia.
809
00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:23,765
What?
810
00:38:23,841 --> 00:38:25,191
Where is that
coming from?
811
00:38:25,267 --> 00:38:26,428
Diane Gramley.
812
00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:27,854
She's started
an all-in, all-out
813
00:38:27,931 --> 00:38:30,180
campaign against us.
814
00:38:30,257 --> 00:38:31,869
And she's saying
to people,
815
00:38:31,945 --> 00:38:33,632
"don't do business
with the Latonia"?
816
00:38:33,709 --> 00:38:34,833
Yes.
817
00:38:34,908 --> 00:38:36,633
Because it's run
by a lesbian couple.
818
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:39,934
Yes -- we just wanted
to have a business.
819
00:38:40,011 --> 00:38:43,198
If all the city wants
is churches,
820
00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:44,850
then what do they need
821
00:38:44,925 --> 00:38:46,875
an Art Deco theater for?
822
00:38:51,453 --> 00:38:53,516
Wilson: As we were dealing
with anti-gay attitudes
823
00:38:53,592 --> 00:38:54,866
right there
in the community,
824
00:38:54,942 --> 00:38:56,592
the state of Pennsylvania
825
00:38:56,668 --> 00:39:00,193
was considering expanding
its anti-discrimination law
826
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:02,820
to include
sexual orientation.
827
00:39:02,896 --> 00:39:04,733
Kathy was invited
to tell her story
828
00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:07,622
about discrimination at C.J.'s
school at a public hearing.
829
00:39:07,698 --> 00:39:09,873
I'm not a public speaker.
830
00:39:09,949 --> 00:39:13,362
But -- and I don't know
what I'd say.
831
00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:18,352
I just, I need to hear
how it's going and --
832
00:39:18,428 --> 00:39:20,190
Wilson: I've printed out
a copy of the law,
833
00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:21,916
so we can look at it.
Okay, good, good.
834
00:39:21,992 --> 00:39:23,642
Yeah, that would be good.
835
00:39:23,717 --> 00:39:25,630
Where you see
the underline,
836
00:39:25,706 --> 00:39:28,181
it's trying to add
"sexual orientation,
837
00:39:28,257 --> 00:39:31,032
Gender identity,
or expression."
838
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:33,020
You know,
I don't understand
839
00:39:33,097 --> 00:39:37,822
where they even get off
not including
840
00:39:37,899 --> 00:39:40,036
gay and lesbian.
841
00:39:40,113 --> 00:39:41,874
You know, let's get,
you know,
842
00:39:41,951 --> 00:39:44,313
our heads
out of our asses here.
843
00:39:48,516 --> 00:39:50,615
Gramley: On June 13th,
A homosexual special rights
844
00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:52,341
Bill was introduced
in Harrisburg.
845
00:39:52,418 --> 00:39:55,530
This is Diane Gramley with
the American Family Assocition
846
00:39:55,606 --> 00:39:57,593
of Pennsylvania,
with a call to action.
847
00:39:57,670 --> 00:40:00,032
Advocates for the passage
of these bills
848
00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:02,095
deny they are
special rights bills,
849
00:40:02,171 --> 00:40:04,985
But in what other situation
is a law specifically written
850
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:06,897
to include a group of people
851
00:40:06,974 --> 00:40:09,899
simply because of the sexual
activity in which they engage?
852
00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:12,975
They have never been required
to sit in the back of the bus
853
00:40:13,052 --> 00:40:15,639
or drink from designated
water fountains.
854
00:40:15,716 --> 00:40:18,415
They've never been considered
less than human,
855
00:40:18,492 --> 00:40:20,253
as African Americans
once were.
856
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:21,829
Homosexual activists
are trying
857
00:40:21,905 --> 00:40:23,705
to hijack
the civil rights movement
858
00:40:23,781 --> 00:40:25,056
by pulling the victim card
859
00:40:25,132 --> 00:40:26,969
and trying to seek
the normalization
860
00:40:27,045 --> 00:40:28,694
of their destructive
lifestyle.
861
00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:31,245
Wilson:
People like Diane
862
00:40:31,322 --> 00:40:33,872
are using misinformation
863
00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:36,686
to stir up irrational fears,
to kind of
864
00:40:36,761 --> 00:40:39,162
push people
back into the closet.
865
00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:40,888
It's not going to happen.
866
00:40:40,963 --> 00:40:42,388
But when they
stir up that fear,
867
00:40:42,464 --> 00:40:43,701
that's what creates
the problems.
868
00:40:43,777 --> 00:40:45,352
That's what puts
people like C.J. at risk.
869
00:40:45,428 --> 00:40:46,515
At risk.
Okay.
870
00:40:46,591 --> 00:40:47,753
Because those messages
871
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:49,516
go out there and say,
"Oh, those are
872
00:40:49,593 --> 00:40:51,204
the people
we're supposed to hate."
873
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,817
You know, can you imagine,
I mean,
874
00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:56,044
just seeing somebody
at a party and saying,
875
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,770
"Oh, that's the faggot.
876
00:40:57,845 --> 00:41:00,884
"Let's go, you know,
punch him, literally
877
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,084
knock him out --"
878
00:41:02,161 --> 00:41:03,923
Can I imagine that?
Oh, yeah.
879
00:41:03,998 --> 00:41:06,248
I-I can imagine that.
880
00:41:06,324 --> 00:41:11,650
I mean, I was that type
of a person at one time.
881
00:41:11,727 --> 00:41:15,515
Now, that may be shocking
to you.
882
00:41:15,591 --> 00:41:19,492
But in my journey in life,
I'm no longer like that,
883
00:41:19,568 --> 00:41:21,293
And a big part of that
884
00:41:21,368 --> 00:41:24,256
Is my Christianity,
my faith in Christ.
885
00:41:24,332 --> 00:41:27,632
You know, I truly believe
that Jesus Christ
886
00:41:27,709 --> 00:41:32,322
has changed my character,
so that I don't do that,
887
00:41:32,398 --> 00:41:34,123
nor do I want
to do those things anymore.
888
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,149
I mean, those are wrong.
It's wrong to do that.
889
00:41:36,225 --> 00:41:37,649
It's wrong to violate...
890
00:41:37,726 --> 00:41:40,239
You know, anybody.
891
00:41:40,314 --> 00:41:42,677
I became
a different person.
892
00:41:42,753 --> 00:41:45,303
Do you think there will come
a time, though, when we
893
00:41:45,379 --> 00:41:48,567
don't disagree about
894
00:41:48,643 --> 00:41:50,330
the place that gay, lesbian,
895
00:41:50,406 --> 00:41:53,181
bisexual, and trans people
have in the world?
896
00:41:53,258 --> 00:41:57,495
Maybe aspects of it.
I don't know.
897
00:41:57,572 --> 00:41:58,959
I don't know.
898
00:41:59,035 --> 00:42:00,835
You know...
899
00:42:00,911 --> 00:42:04,474
I'd have to...
900
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:06,838
That would be a big --
that would be
901
00:42:06,913 --> 00:42:08,901
a big change for me,
you know?
902
00:42:08,977 --> 00:42:12,202
Wilson: My interactions
with Pastor Micklos
903
00:42:12,278 --> 00:42:14,340
Were odd.
904
00:42:14,417 --> 00:42:16,028
Ever since
the wedding announcement,
905
00:42:16,105 --> 00:42:18,130
I felt like I had been battling
906
00:42:18,206 --> 00:42:20,117
against people who use religion
907
00:42:20,194 --> 00:42:23,232
to deny gay people basic rights
of visibility.
908
00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:27,283
Pastor Micklos was open
to looking at things
909
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,121
in a different way.
910
00:42:29,198 --> 00:42:31,073
I'd never thought
I'd become friends
911
00:42:31,149 --> 00:42:33,437
with someone who didn't
view me as his equal.
912
00:42:33,512 --> 00:42:37,600
But his willingness to examine
his own beliefs
913
00:42:37,677 --> 00:42:40,302
was helping me to see
that not all religious people
914
00:42:40,377 --> 00:42:42,627
fell into the box
that I often put them in.
915
00:42:42,704 --> 00:42:44,653
Good afternoon, joe,
how are you doing?
916
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,342
Wilson: Hi, Diane,
how are you?
917
00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:49,043
I wanted to introduce you
to Kathy Springer and C.J.
918
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:50,918
Oh, okay, good,
nice to meet you.
919
00:42:50,995 --> 00:42:52,832
Thank you, it's nice
to meet you.
920
00:42:52,908 --> 00:42:56,921
Wilson: C.J. Is the young boy
who was in Franklin high school
921
00:42:56,998 --> 00:43:00,410
and was experiencing harassment
and discrimination.
922
00:43:00,487 --> 00:43:02,136
Okay, the one that was
on your video?
923
00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:03,937
Wilson: Yeah.
What do you think of that?
924
00:43:04,013 --> 00:43:06,150
Well, I need to get in here
to the meeting, excuse me.
925
00:43:10,728 --> 00:43:11,816
Woman: Diane Gramley
926
00:43:11,891 --> 00:43:14,854
From the American Family
Association
927
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:17,218
of Pennsylvania.
928
00:43:17,294 --> 00:43:18,493
Gramley: Civil rights
protections
929
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:19,619
have long
been fought for
930
00:43:19,695 --> 00:43:21,907
by disenfranchised groups
of people.
931
00:43:21,983 --> 00:43:26,560
African Americans led the fight
for civil rights,
932
00:43:26,636 --> 00:43:28,772
seeking the right to vote
and to no longer
933
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:31,286
be required to sit
at the back of the bus.
934
00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:33,650
But a person's skin color
or national origin
935
00:43:33,726 --> 00:43:35,113
is unchangeable.
936
00:43:35,189 --> 00:43:39,165
Wilson: Again, Gramley was
trying to use race
937
00:43:39,241 --> 00:43:41,491
as a wedge to divide.
938
00:43:41,566 --> 00:43:43,779
But this time, she was dealing
with legislators
939
00:43:43,856 --> 00:43:45,842
who were experienced
in civil rights law.
940
00:43:45,919 --> 00:43:49,294
I was hoping they'd be more open
to Kathy's testimony.
941
00:43:49,371 --> 00:43:51,020
Springer: I'm sorry,
I'm already nervous.
942
00:43:51,097 --> 00:43:53,647
I'm not a public speaker.
943
00:43:53,722 --> 00:43:56,347
At this time I'd like
to tell you
944
00:43:56,424 --> 00:43:58,261
about my son,
C.J. Bills.
945
00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:00,586
At the time,
he was 15 years old
946
00:44:00,663 --> 00:44:03,513
and attended a public school
in Venango county.
947
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:07,339
There was an incident
on a school bus one day.
948
00:44:07,416 --> 00:44:09,403
He was on a field trip.
949
00:44:09,479 --> 00:44:11,204
There were teachers
monitoring
950
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,230
this whole trip.
951
00:44:13,306 --> 00:44:14,843
Kids were throwing things
952
00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:17,131
at him,
calling him "faggot,"
953
00:44:17,208 --> 00:44:20,132
"queer," "gay,"
asking if he wanted
954
00:44:20,209 --> 00:44:22,683
to perform sex acts
on them.
955
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,385
The teachers
just turned their heads
956
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:27,448
and acted
like it never happened.
957
00:44:27,525 --> 00:44:29,736
We've had our house
958
00:44:29,813 --> 00:44:32,326
threatened to be
burned down.
959
00:44:32,401 --> 00:44:35,515
We've gotten phone calls
by these boys, saying,
960
00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:37,990
"we want to see
what color a faggot bleeds."
961
00:44:38,067 --> 00:44:42,043
He was vulnerable,
he was scared,
962
00:44:42,118 --> 00:44:43,843
he didn't want
to go to school.
963
00:44:43,919 --> 00:44:46,994
His grades were dropping.
964
00:44:47,071 --> 00:44:49,245
He was suicidal.
965
00:44:51,234 --> 00:44:55,361
I, um, I just have
one more thing
966
00:44:55,436 --> 00:44:59,412
to say -- I hope it never
comes to your family,
967
00:44:59,488 --> 00:45:02,038
where one of your children
are tortured
968
00:45:02,115 --> 00:45:03,576
for being who they are.
969
00:45:03,653 --> 00:45:07,253
Thank you.
970
00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:12,843
Sometimes black people
have a problem
971
00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:15,432
with people who are different
972
00:45:15,508 --> 00:45:20,083
comparing their experiences
973
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,897
with the black experience.
974
00:45:22,974 --> 00:45:25,261
Because of
your experience,
975
00:45:25,337 --> 00:45:27,849
you're going to be able
to help other young people
976
00:45:27,926 --> 00:45:32,089
so that maybe tomorrow
this doesn't happen.
977
00:45:32,165 --> 00:45:33,364
God bless you for it.
978
00:45:33,441 --> 00:45:36,553
Be who you are,
no matter what.
979
00:45:36,629 --> 00:45:37,791
Thank you very much.
980
00:45:37,867 --> 00:45:41,806
Springer:
Thank you.
981
00:45:46,083 --> 00:45:47,958
Wilson: Diane and group,
we actually wanted
982
00:45:48,035 --> 00:45:49,609
to ask you how you respond
983
00:45:49,685 --> 00:45:52,648
to the very personal testimonies
of C.J. And Kathy.
984
00:45:52,724 --> 00:45:55,086
Like I said at the beginning
of my testimony,
985
00:45:55,162 --> 00:45:56,962
I thought it was
awful information.
986
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,701
And the Franklin school district
should not have done to him
987
00:45:59,777 --> 00:46:00,901
what they permitted to do.
988
00:46:00,977 --> 00:46:02,102
So will you join us
989
00:46:02,178 --> 00:46:03,828
in fighting discrimination --
No --
990
00:46:03,904 --> 00:46:05,928
Against gay and lesbian
people in Franklin?
991
00:46:06,004 --> 00:46:07,204
Not, we're not going to --
992
00:46:07,281 --> 00:46:08,667
We're not
going to join you.
993
00:46:08,743 --> 00:46:09,980
Why not?
No.
994
00:46:10,057 --> 00:46:15,046
Because of the roads
that that will open.
995
00:46:15,121 --> 00:46:18,872
Wilson: Kathy's testimony
may not have influenced Gramley,
996
00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:21,498
but it did have an impact
on the legislators.
997
00:46:21,574 --> 00:46:23,786
After the hearing,
998
00:46:23,863 --> 00:46:27,351
one of the staff offered to help
Kathy and C.J. Contact the ACLU
999
00:46:27,427 --> 00:46:30,351
to press a legal case
against their school district.
1000
00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:33,466
Springer: Prior to this,
I figured, the ACLU --
1001
00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:34,704
What the heck?
1002
00:46:34,779 --> 00:46:36,542
All they can do
is tell me no, you know.
1003
00:46:36,618 --> 00:46:39,392
Well, the next thing
I know,
1004
00:46:39,469 --> 00:46:41,794
I got a return phone call.
1005
00:46:41,871 --> 00:46:44,082
And we had
a great lawyer
1006
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:48,584
From the ACLU.
1007
00:46:53,313 --> 00:46:55,488
Wilson: What do you think
about the Latonia?
1008
00:46:55,564 --> 00:46:57,851
Boy: I'm glad
that Roxanne got it,
1009
00:46:57,928 --> 00:46:59,877
because there was a guy
that wanted to scrap
1010
00:46:59,953 --> 00:47:01,528
the whole place out
piece by piece.
1011
00:47:01,604 --> 00:47:05,466
And look at that --
that picture
1012
00:47:05,543 --> 00:47:07,680
of that chandelier.
1013
00:47:07,757 --> 00:47:11,245
It's just, like, scary!
1014
00:47:11,321 --> 00:47:13,496
It could fall any second!
1015
00:47:13,572 --> 00:47:16,384
And plus, it's great!
1016
00:47:22,538 --> 00:47:25,613
Wilson: Just two days
before the grand opening,
1017
00:47:25,689 --> 00:47:28,052
Roxanne and linda got a call
from a neighboring
1018
00:47:28,128 --> 00:47:30,903
businessman about
their "homosexual agenda"
1019
00:47:30,979 --> 00:47:32,253
at the Latonia.
1020
00:47:32,330 --> 00:47:33,754
What happened on that
phone call you got?
1021
00:47:33,831 --> 00:47:35,180
Hitchcock: I said,
1022
00:47:35,255 --> 00:47:37,393
"if you want to listen to people
like Diane Gramley,"
1023
00:47:37,469 --> 00:47:38,894
I said, "you're welcome to,
but," I said,
1024
00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:40,132
"you know what?
1025
00:47:40,208 --> 00:47:41,370
"we're trying
to do something
1026
00:47:41,446 --> 00:47:43,246
Wonderful
for the community here."
1027
00:47:43,322 --> 00:47:45,610
And I said, "I want to know
what Diane Gramley
1028
00:47:45,685 --> 00:47:47,485
Has done to promote
the community."
1029
00:47:47,562 --> 00:47:48,686
Yeah.
1030
00:47:48,761 --> 00:47:50,036
"besides her witch hunts."
1031
00:47:50,113 --> 00:47:51,724
Yeah!
I said, "she's always
1032
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,975
on a witch hunt
about something."
1033
00:47:54,051 --> 00:47:55,214
Did you say that?
1034
00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:57,465
Yes, I did.
1035
00:47:57,540 --> 00:48:02,079
Henderson: The negative messages
sting so bad
1036
00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:04,030
that it takes, probably,
1037
00:48:04,105 --> 00:48:06,656
100 positive
to keep you on track --
1038
00:48:06,732 --> 00:48:10,783
when it's that hateful.
1039
00:48:12,584 --> 00:48:14,947
Wilson: After
Kathy and C.J.'s case
1040
00:48:15,023 --> 00:48:17,573
about discrimination
at the high school
1041
00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:19,787
got attention
in the community,
1042
00:48:19,862 --> 00:48:21,399
the local college
brought in
1043
00:48:21,476 --> 00:48:24,101
a gay Christian performing arts
group from Pittsburgh
1044
00:48:24,178 --> 00:48:26,689
to help people see things
from a youth perspective.
1045
00:48:26,766 --> 00:48:29,316
Somehow, I managed to get
1046
00:48:29,392 --> 00:48:32,055
C.J. And Pastor Micklos
to attend.
1047
00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:33,630
♫ my soul ♫
1048
00:48:36,332 --> 00:48:37,644
Woman: I hope
that our performance
1049
00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:40,833
puts a face
to gay christians
1050
00:48:40,909 --> 00:48:42,485
and puts a face
1051
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,947
to gay people.
1052
00:48:44,024 --> 00:48:45,823
There's a lot of people
that don't know things
1053
00:48:45,899 --> 00:48:48,411
about gay people,
and they have the stereotypical
1054
00:48:48,487 --> 00:48:50,850
assumptions of gay people.
1055
00:48:50,926 --> 00:48:53,739
What you just said
about stereotypes,
1056
00:48:53,815 --> 00:48:56,515
is that reversed at times,
as well?
1057
00:48:56,591 --> 00:48:59,179
As far as gay people having
1058
00:48:59,254 --> 00:49:02,780
stereotypes about
straight people?
1059
00:49:02,857 --> 00:49:04,243
Um...
1060
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,982
Man: Yeah.
I do it.
1061
00:49:07,059 --> 00:49:08,520
I stereotype
straight people
1062
00:49:08,597 --> 00:49:11,071
as dressing badly
and --
1063
00:49:16,325 --> 00:49:19,550
Thanks for coming
1064
00:49:19,627 --> 00:49:21,763
How did you guys meet?
1065
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,564
We wrote a letter
to the editor,
1066
00:49:23,641 --> 00:49:26,228
and they...
captured us.
1067
00:49:26,304 --> 00:49:29,116
And we became friends.
1068
00:49:29,193 --> 00:49:30,617
Awesome.
1069
00:49:30,694 --> 00:49:32,531
But I'm sorry
that part of the reason
1070
00:49:32,606 --> 00:49:34,556
you're not in school
is because violence
1071
00:49:34,633 --> 00:49:35,945
was perpetrated against you.
1072
00:49:36,021 --> 00:49:39,846
Not good
under any circumstances.
1073
00:49:39,923 --> 00:49:41,535
Bills: How did he
come around
1074
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:43,147
like that?
1075
00:49:43,224 --> 00:49:44,949
Wilson: I guess
that he's been
1076
00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:47,012
thinking about it
for a little bit.
1077
00:49:47,088 --> 00:49:48,550
Wow.
1078
00:49:48,626 --> 00:49:52,564
At times, we all
get stereotyped, don't we?
1079
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,328
Huh?
1080
00:49:54,403 --> 00:49:59,241
Sometimes we're not so bad
as our first impressions are.
1081
00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:05,620
Woman: You know
there are people
1082
00:50:05,696 --> 00:50:08,359
who don't care
what this guy's spreading.
1083
00:50:08,435 --> 00:50:11,697
And even if they listen,
they have seen you at work,
1084
00:50:11,774 --> 00:50:14,511
And they have seen
everything you've done.
1085
00:50:14,588 --> 00:50:16,612
I know, but we got
a double whammy against us.
1086
00:50:16,688 --> 00:50:18,225
You know that.
1087
00:50:18,302 --> 00:50:19,463
I know you do,
1088
00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:21,340
But you have to not let this
1089
00:50:21,415 --> 00:50:24,416
take away from what you've
worked so hard for.
1090
00:50:24,491 --> 00:50:26,216
Please put on your face
and say,
1091
00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:29,593
"you're not
going to do this to us."
1092
00:50:29,669 --> 00:50:31,994
And make this just be
as wonderful
1093
00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:33,720
an event
as it can be,
1094
00:50:33,795 --> 00:50:35,033
and is going to be.
1095
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:36,159
What are we
going to say?
1096
00:50:36,234 --> 00:50:37,884
Latonia!
1097
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,247
All: Latonia!
1098
00:50:40,324 --> 00:50:41,711
See?
That's what we needed.
1099
00:50:41,787 --> 00:50:44,187
Man: I told joe
that you and Roxanne
1100
00:50:44,263 --> 00:50:47,676
have been working sometimes
18-hour days getting this done.
1101
00:50:47,752 --> 00:50:50,190
I can't imagine,
because there's many weeks
1102
00:50:50,265 --> 00:50:51,765
that I don't work 18 hours.
1103
00:50:53,117 --> 00:50:56,755
But it hasn't been us
by ourselves.
1104
00:50:56,831 --> 00:50:58,781
We've had
a lot of people helping,
1105
00:50:58,856 --> 00:51:01,557
and if you're looking now,
there's an army up there,
1106
00:51:01,632 --> 00:51:03,433
helping us
get the room ready.
1107
00:51:03,509 --> 00:51:06,697
For KQW 96.3
at the Latonia,
1108
00:51:06,773 --> 00:51:08,122
I'm Sam Gordon.
1109
00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:13,750
Gordon: Why are you
doing it?
1110
00:51:13,826 --> 00:51:15,813
Woman:
Because I love Rox and Linda
1111
00:51:15,889 --> 00:51:16,976
so much.
1112
00:51:17,052 --> 00:51:20,390
That's the only reason why!
1113
00:51:20,467 --> 00:51:23,016
Joy!
1114
00:51:23,092 --> 00:51:24,704
I'm probably
going to cry.
1115
00:51:24,781 --> 00:51:29,431
It's -- I --
people are coming through
1116
00:51:29,508 --> 00:51:30,745
to let us know.
1117
00:51:30,821 --> 00:51:32,846
♫ oh, oh, oh,
and I'm ♫
1118
00:51:32,921 --> 00:51:34,233
♫ wrong, yeah ♫
1119
00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:37,535
♫ but I'm still
the toughest one ♫
1120
00:51:37,611 --> 00:51:38,886
Littler:
Listen to this.
1121
00:51:38,961 --> 00:51:42,036
"The Latonia's very bold
1122
00:51:42,113 --> 00:51:44,363
"and features
one of the biggest
1123
00:51:44,439 --> 00:51:46,839
chandeliers
in the United States!"
1124
00:51:46,915 --> 00:51:51,979
That baby is what I call
something!
1125
00:51:52,055 --> 00:51:55,468
Wilson: Roxanne and Linda
could count on the support
1126
00:51:55,543 --> 00:51:57,043
of their close friends.
1127
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,107
But the challenge
in small towns
1128
00:51:59,183 --> 00:52:01,808
like Oil City is getting
regular people
1129
00:52:01,884 --> 00:52:04,622
to show their support when it
could really make a difference.
1130
00:52:04,698 --> 00:52:07,173
It remained to be seen
whether the community at large
1131
00:52:07,249 --> 00:52:12,425
would show up
for the Latonia's grand opening.
1132
00:52:15,353 --> 00:52:16,777
Okay.
1133
00:52:16,854 --> 00:52:18,090
Wilson: Clutch all the way
to the floor,
1134
00:52:18,166 --> 00:52:19,441
left foot.
That one?
1135
00:52:19,517 --> 00:52:21,242
Yeah, but with
your left foot.
1136
00:52:21,317 --> 00:52:23,718
And don't let it up.
1137
00:52:23,793 --> 00:52:26,043
Or you'll go right through
that garage door.
1138
00:52:27,696 --> 00:52:29,570
Now keep it down
and put it in reverse,
1139
00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:30,883
which is
way, way, way back.
1140
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,046
That way?
1141
00:52:32,122 --> 00:52:33,547
Over, yeah.
1142
00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:37,298
Oh, this is a whole new
experience of the world here.
1143
00:52:37,374 --> 00:52:40,262
♫ hey, hey ♫
1144
00:52:40,338 --> 00:52:42,813
I'm not used to change.
1145
00:52:42,889 --> 00:52:45,064
♫ remember when we
used to play ♫
1146
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:50,730
♫ out in your backyard
almost every day? ♫
1147
00:52:50,805 --> 00:52:52,868
This is awesome!
1148
00:52:52,943 --> 00:52:55,981
And he trusts me.
1149
00:52:56,058 --> 00:52:57,670
That's sweet!
1150
00:53:00,072 --> 00:53:03,860
♫ hey, hey ♫
1151
00:53:03,936 --> 00:53:05,398
♫ remember when we used to ♫
1152
00:53:05,474 --> 00:53:06,748
Wilson:
After two years,
1153
00:53:06,825 --> 00:53:09,975
Kathy and C.J.,
with the help of the ACLU,
1154
00:53:10,052 --> 00:53:13,089
finally reached a settlement
with the school district
1155
00:53:13,165 --> 00:53:14,477
that included a promise
1156
00:53:14,554 --> 00:53:18,867
of comprehensive
anti-discrimination training.
1157
00:53:18,942 --> 00:53:21,267
C.J. And I drove over
to the high school
1158
00:53:21,344 --> 00:53:23,369
To meet Kathy
and the ACLU lawyer.
1159
00:53:23,444 --> 00:53:24,719
They were observing
the training
1160
00:53:24,796 --> 00:53:25,994
to make sure it included
1161
00:53:26,071 --> 00:53:28,283
sexual orientation.
1162
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,472
We had to drive my car,
because C.J.'s
1163
00:53:31,548 --> 00:53:34,624
$150 special had already
been scrapped.
1164
00:53:34,699 --> 00:53:37,512
And when you stop, clutch in,
if you're in gear.
1165
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:39,200
Clutch down, all the way
to the floor.
1166
00:53:39,276 --> 00:53:40,325
All right.
1167
00:53:40,402 --> 00:53:41,751
Clutch, man!
1168
00:53:41,827 --> 00:53:44,790
Every time you stop,
you gotta use the clutch.
1169
00:53:50,043 --> 00:53:52,481
So, how'd everything go?
1170
00:53:52,557 --> 00:53:54,582
I wish they would have had
1171
00:53:54,659 --> 00:53:58,408
this in-service training program
two years ago.
1172
00:53:58,485 --> 00:54:00,847
Maybe we could have avoided
1173
00:54:00,924 --> 00:54:02,761
all of these problems.
1174
00:54:02,836 --> 00:54:04,448
I thought it was
very good.
1175
00:54:04,525 --> 00:54:06,662
I was very pleased.
I was very pleased.
1176
00:54:06,739 --> 00:54:09,251
My hands are
going to freeze off.
1177
00:54:09,327 --> 00:54:12,290
Let's go to the restaurant.
1178
00:54:14,054 --> 00:54:15,441
Okay, dude,
let me hear your comments.
1179
00:54:15,517 --> 00:54:17,167
What do you think about that?
That's awesome.
1180
00:54:17,243 --> 00:54:19,868
I want to find out
if he has, like,
1181
00:54:19,944 --> 00:54:21,443
more programs set up,
1182
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,158
like, same thing as this,
or different ones, or...
1183
00:54:25,233 --> 00:54:26,884
Springer:
It's taken us two years,
1184
00:54:26,959 --> 00:54:28,835
but it's a step
that I never thought
1185
00:54:28,910 --> 00:54:30,635
would happen.
1186
00:54:30,711 --> 00:54:32,024
Wilson:
And quite a journey
1187
00:54:32,099 --> 00:54:34,162
for you, I'll say.
1188
00:54:34,237 --> 00:54:38,364
Yeah, I'm just a little old
back-hills mom.
1189
00:54:38,439 --> 00:54:40,239
Yeah.
1190
00:54:40,316 --> 00:54:42,227
I -- I --
1191
00:54:42,304 --> 00:54:46,767
I'll keep
being that voice.
1192
00:54:46,844 --> 00:54:50,519
Even if my son
moves away from this area,
1193
00:54:50,595 --> 00:54:53,596
which he'd like
very much to do,
1194
00:54:53,671 --> 00:54:55,583
I'm not going anywhere.
1195
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:57,685
I'm still going to be here,
1196
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,986
still going to stand up
against the bigots
1197
00:55:01,062 --> 00:55:06,613
until they wake up
and...
1198
00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:09,502
see the world
for what it is.
1199
00:55:30,550 --> 00:55:32,537
Welcome to the Latonia.
1200
00:55:32,613 --> 00:55:35,651
Thank you.
1201
00:55:52,684 --> 00:55:54,184
Woman: The spirit
of the building
1202
00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:55,684
is alive again,
you know?
1203
00:55:55,761 --> 00:55:56,960
It just is.
1204
00:55:57,037 --> 00:55:59,211
I think this is just
another piece
1205
00:55:59,288 --> 00:56:01,762
that's going to come alive
and, and add
1206
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:04,763
to all the other things
that are happening here.
1207
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,526
Woman:
Oh, I'm excited
1208
00:56:06,603 --> 00:56:08,140
about the vision
and the energy
1209
00:56:08,216 --> 00:56:09,790
that people have here
to bring this alive.
1210
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,704
It's exciting.
1211
00:56:11,780 --> 00:56:13,805
The chandelier is gorgeous.
Yeah.
1212
00:56:13,881 --> 00:56:16,843
I can't wait to see it
lit up.
1213
00:56:20,372 --> 00:56:22,209
Henderson: Thank you all
for coming
1214
00:56:22,284 --> 00:56:23,484
this evening..
1215
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,435
This is a fantastic night.
1216
00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:31,850
When you start on a large
project like this,
1217
00:56:31,927 --> 00:56:33,689
you need to celebrate
1218
00:56:33,765 --> 00:56:35,977
some mile markers.
1219
00:56:36,053 --> 00:56:37,215
But what's exciting
1220
00:56:37,291 --> 00:56:39,804
to me is watching
what's happening
1221
00:56:39,879 --> 00:56:41,304
throughout Oil City.
1222
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:45,432
It means a lot to me
to see all these faces,
1223
00:56:45,507 --> 00:56:49,108
to see all these people
who are behind this project.
1224
00:56:49,184 --> 00:56:52,597
And it hasn't always
been easy.
1225
00:56:52,672 --> 00:56:55,523
and, uh, I think I'm going to
1226
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,924
Have to turn it over
to Rox right now.
1227
00:56:59,613 --> 00:57:01,563
My partner, Roxanne.
1228
00:57:07,304 --> 00:57:09,780
Okay, Roxy,
are we ready?
1229
00:57:09,855 --> 00:57:11,580
Hitchcock: Okay.
1230
00:57:11,656 --> 00:57:13,794
All right,
One...
1231
00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:16,270
Two...Three.
1232
00:57:34,203 --> 00:57:37,879
Henderson: We actually had
imagined that moment from --
1233
00:57:37,955 --> 00:57:39,343
For a long time.
1234
00:57:39,418 --> 00:57:41,255
Hitchcock: Just seeing
the community's reaction to that
1235
00:57:41,332 --> 00:57:43,169
just made it all worthwhile.
1236
00:57:43,245 --> 00:57:46,658
That was cool!
1237
00:57:46,734 --> 00:57:49,321
Hitchcock: We love
this old building.
1238
00:57:49,398 --> 00:57:50,710
We're fixing it up.
1239
00:57:50,785 --> 00:57:53,560
We want to turn it
into something viable
1240
00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:56,937
and economically reasonable
for Oil City,
1241
00:57:57,013 --> 00:57:58,813
but in the same token,
we're giving something
1242
00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:00,164
back to the city.
1243
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,553
It's all about being able
to be ourselves
1244
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:08,379
without somebody
questioning every
1245
00:58:08,456 --> 00:58:11,194
motive we might have.
1246
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:13,257
Yeah, what they call
an agenda,
1247
00:58:13,333 --> 00:58:14,419
we call our lives.
1248
00:58:14,496 --> 00:58:15,958
Right!
Right!
1249
00:58:16,034 --> 00:58:19,297
♫ Everything feels like enough ♫
1250
00:58:19,373 --> 00:58:20,872
Man, on P.A.:
We come against
1251
00:58:20,949 --> 00:58:23,948
The strongholds of sin
in this city
1252
00:58:24,025 --> 00:58:25,488
In the name of Jesus,
1253
00:58:25,563 --> 00:58:28,001
And we tear
those strongholds down
1254
00:58:28,077 --> 00:58:29,351
In the name of Jesus.
1255
00:58:29,427 --> 00:58:31,077
Father, I thank you
that there is
1256
00:58:31,153 --> 00:58:33,928
An army of believers,
1257
00:58:34,005 --> 00:58:37,155
Ready to take this city
for Jesus Christ.
1258
00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:40,644
♫ I want to see Jesus
lifted high ♫
1259
00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:44,883
♫ a banner that flies
across this land ♫
1260
00:58:44,959 --> 00:58:47,922
♫ that all men will see
the truth and know ♫
1261
00:58:47,999 --> 00:58:51,260
♫ he is the way... ♫
1262
00:58:51,337 --> 00:58:53,511
Wilson: Diane?
1263
00:58:53,588 --> 00:58:55,388
Diane?
1264
00:58:58,541 --> 00:59:01,390
I just wanted to ask you
one more thing, Diane.
1265
00:59:05,706 --> 00:59:09,231
Wilson: It had taken me
a long time to get there,
1266
00:59:09,307 --> 00:59:12,795
but in that moment,
as Diane was treating me
1267
00:59:12,872 --> 00:59:14,483
like I didn't exist,
1268
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:15,947
I finally started to see
1269
00:59:16,022 --> 00:59:18,535
that battling with her
wasn't a useful way
1270
00:59:18,612 --> 00:59:21,236
to help make change
in my small hometown.
1271
00:59:21,312 --> 00:59:25,701
Change was starting to happen,
not through confrontation,
1272
00:59:25,777 --> 00:59:27,802
but because of people
who decided
1273
00:59:27,877 --> 00:59:30,428
not to leave,
like I did so many years ago.
1274
00:59:30,504 --> 00:59:33,430
People who had the courage
to start living their lives
1275
00:59:33,505 --> 00:59:35,455
just a little more openly.
1276
00:59:35,531 --> 00:59:38,418
And because other people
in the community
1277
00:59:38,495 --> 00:59:41,645
were willing
to meet them halfway.
1278
00:59:41,722 --> 00:59:42,996
You know, there have
been times
1279
00:59:43,072 --> 00:59:44,684
when I'm, like,
"How can they think that?"
1280
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,184
You know?
1281
00:59:46,261 --> 00:59:49,148
Sure. And, um, you know,
I'm in a different place
1282
00:59:49,225 --> 00:59:51,587
with that now -- I mean,
I really respect
1283
00:59:51,663 --> 00:59:52,862
how you see the world
1284
00:59:52,938 --> 00:59:55,601
and how it's made you
into the people
1285
00:59:55,677 --> 00:59:59,016
that, um, opened us up
in the way you have, so...
1286
00:59:59,091 --> 01:00:02,579
you know, a lot of times,
we're afraid of the unknown.
1287
01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:07,081
and you were
the unknown quotient.
1288
01:00:07,157 --> 01:00:09,895
You could talk
about the issues,
1289
01:00:09,971 --> 01:00:12,934
but the reality is that
there are people behind there
1290
01:00:13,009 --> 01:00:14,697
that we need to be sensitive to
1291
01:00:14,774 --> 01:00:17,473
and try to look
at their perspective
1292
01:00:17,550 --> 01:00:19,499
and where they're at,
and, I mean,
1293
01:00:19,576 --> 01:00:21,863
the benefit of the whole thing,
I think,
1294
01:00:21,939 --> 01:00:24,714
is that we,
we have a friendship.
1295
01:00:24,791 --> 01:00:26,477
You know?
1296
01:00:26,554 --> 01:00:28,841
Hopefully, we're growing
as human beings,
1297
01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:32,217
you know, through it all.
1298
01:00:32,293 --> 01:00:36,194
Bills:
I'll get that.
1299
01:00:39,046 --> 01:00:41,146
Do you see
my cold air intake?
1300
01:00:41,222 --> 01:00:42,647
Are you seeing
them fuses?
1301
01:00:42,723 --> 01:00:43,885
Wilson: I can't say
I'm much
1302
01:00:43,961 --> 01:00:48,011
of a car person,
but it looks nice.
1303
01:00:48,087 --> 01:00:50,713
Bills: $4,388.68.
1304
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:53,001
Oh, yeah,
I remember every dime.
1305
01:00:53,077 --> 01:00:55,364
Where'd you get
that kind of loot?
1306
01:00:55,441 --> 01:00:58,516
Off of that there,
what do you call it,
1307
01:00:58,592 --> 01:01:00,730
ACLU thing.
1308
01:01:00,806 --> 01:01:02,756
Good, you made it.
1309
01:01:02,831 --> 01:01:04,744
Yeah, you know it!
1310
01:01:04,820 --> 01:01:05,869
Can we go
for a ride?
1311
01:01:05,946 --> 01:01:06,995
If you want to.
1312
01:01:10,147 --> 01:01:13,147
You take it easy.
1313
01:01:13,224 --> 01:01:16,336
It's like
it ain't gonna go...
1314
01:01:16,412 --> 01:01:17,537
♫ today is fit for rent ♫
1315
01:01:17,613 --> 01:01:20,125
♫ I'm feelin'
so unique ♫
1316
01:01:20,201 --> 01:01:23,089
♫ I'm feelin'
really funky ♫
1317
01:01:23,165 --> 01:01:24,665
♫ I kind of like
this breeze ♫
1318
01:01:24,741 --> 01:01:26,016
♫ couldn't speak ♫
1319
01:01:26,092 --> 01:01:27,817
♫ or dream ♫
1320
01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:29,654
♫ or am I aware ♫
1321
01:01:29,730 --> 01:01:31,531
♫ sometimes it's hard
to tell ♫
1322
01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:34,156
♫ the difference
I made that said ♫
1323
01:01:34,232 --> 01:01:36,145
It rides
like a cadillac.
1324
01:01:36,221 --> 01:01:38,508
♫ smany lonely days ♫
1325
01:01:38,585 --> 01:01:39,934
♫ but today is ♫
1326
01:01:40,011 --> 01:01:42,034
Bills: I went
from being a jock,
1327
01:01:42,111 --> 01:01:44,211
an athlete,
a basketball player,
1328
01:01:44,286 --> 01:01:45,637
baseball player.
1329
01:01:45,712 --> 01:01:48,975
Then it turned around
to, I was a queer,
1330
01:01:49,052 --> 01:01:50,813
I was a faggot,
I was no longer
1331
01:01:50,890 --> 01:01:53,215
the guy that
dislocated your shoulder
1332
01:01:53,290 --> 01:01:55,879
in football practice --
I was just a sissy,
1333
01:01:55,955 --> 01:01:59,180
because of what I think
looks hot.
1334
01:01:59,256 --> 01:02:01,055
And whatever I think looks good
1335
01:02:01,132 --> 01:02:03,682
just automatically makes me
into a little fairy.
1336
01:02:03,758 --> 01:02:05,107
But it doesn't.
1337
01:02:05,184 --> 01:02:08,859
Because I'm still me,
and I'll always
1338
01:02:08,935 --> 01:02:09,985
remain me.
1339
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,223
I'm not going to change.
1340
01:02:11,298 --> 01:02:12,498
♫ set me free ♫
1341
01:02:12,574 --> 01:02:14,674
♫ set me ♫
♫ set me free ♫
1342
01:02:14,750 --> 01:02:17,038
♫ set me free ♫
♫ come on and set me free ♫
1343
01:02:17,113 --> 01:02:19,814
♫ I gotta set me free ♫
1344
01:02:19,889 --> 01:02:21,165
♫ set me free ♫
1345
01:02:21,241 --> 01:02:22,327
♫ set me ♫
1346
01:02:22,404 --> 01:02:23,640
♫ set me free ♫
1347
01:02:23,717 --> 01:02:26,229
♫ come on
and set me free ♫
1348
01:02:26,305 --> 01:02:28,405
♫ I've gotta
set me free ♫
1349
01:02:28,481 --> 01:02:30,469
♫ free, free,
free, free ♫
1350
01:02:30,545 --> 01:02:32,907
♫ free, free, free, free ♫
1351
01:02:32,983 --> 01:02:35,083
♫ free, free,
free, free ♫
1352
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:37,259
♫ free, free, free ♫
1353
01:02:37,335 --> 01:02:39,735
♫ I finally know who I am ♫
1354
01:02:39,811 --> 01:02:42,136
♫ I finally made
my own plan ♫
1355
01:02:42,213 --> 01:02:44,612
♫ I finally understand ♫
1356
01:02:44,688 --> 01:02:52,940
♫ I own my freedom
in my hand ♫99931
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