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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 00:00:44,123 --> 00:00:47,836 Man: I've lived in Washington, D.C., for 20 years. 2 00:00:47,912 --> 00:00:50,763 It's where I met Dean, playing pick-up basketball, 3 00:00:50,838 --> 00:00:52,638 And made a life for myself. 4 00:00:54,477 --> 00:00:58,303 But no matter how long you've been away from home 5 00:00:58,379 --> 00:01:01,379 Or how much you've changed, the place where you were 6 00:01:01,455 --> 00:01:05,206 Born and raised always stays somewhere deep inside. 7 00:01:05,283 --> 00:01:07,419 For me, that place was Oil City, 8 00:01:07,495 --> 00:01:09,821 A small town with small-town values 9 00:01:09,897 --> 00:01:12,634 In the hills of western Pennsylvania. 11 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:32,780 I was the youngest in a big irish catholic family. 12 00:01:32,857 --> 00:01:34,731 Mom was a nurse, and dad was 13 00:01:34,807 --> 00:01:37,433 Custodian at the catholic school we all attended. 14 00:01:37,509 --> 00:01:40,771 We didn't have much money, but life was good, 15 00:01:40,847 --> 00:01:45,011 And I didn't have a care in the world. 16 00:01:45,087 --> 00:01:48,950 As I got older, I started to feel different. 17 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:53,077 By the time I was a teen, I knew I was gay. 18 00:01:53,152 --> 00:01:57,428 Terrified of losing my friends and maybe even my family, 19 00:01:57,505 --> 00:01:58,929 I kept silent 20 00:01:59,006 --> 00:02:02,231 And managed to get by. 21 00:02:02,307 --> 00:02:04,294 As soon as I graduated high school, 22 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:06,170 I got out of town. 23 00:02:06,246 --> 00:02:08,121 I went off to college, 24 00:02:08,196 --> 00:02:11,047 Joined the Peace Corps, and found myself 25 00:02:11,123 --> 00:02:13,485 Identifying with others who had been silenced. 26 00:02:13,562 --> 00:02:18,475 I ended up in Washington, D.C. 27 00:02:18,552 --> 00:02:20,839 When Dean and I fell in love and got married, 28 00:02:20,915 --> 00:02:22,565 I decided to do what I wish 29 00:02:22,641 --> 00:02:25,003 I could have done a long time ago -- 30 00:02:25,079 --> 00:02:28,793 Be open about who I was back in my hometown. 31 00:02:28,868 --> 00:02:32,018 I put our wedding announcement in the Oil City paper, 32 00:02:32,095 --> 00:02:34,232 The Derrick. 33 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:35,583 It didn't take long 34 00:02:35,659 --> 00:02:38,434 For the letters to start pouring in. 35 00:02:38,510 --> 00:02:40,497 Woman: "Editor: Common sense tells us 36 00:02:40,574 --> 00:02:42,673 Marriage is between a man and a woman." 37 00:02:42,749 --> 00:02:45,187 Man: "I am shaking with anger as I write this." 38 00:02:45,263 --> 00:02:47,475 Woman: "I was sick to my stomach 39 00:02:47,551 --> 00:02:50,214 When I saw and read the announcement..." 40 00:02:50,290 --> 00:02:54,003 Man: "Homosexuality is immoral." 41 00:02:54,079 --> 00:02:56,630 Man: "It would be better for you not to have been born. 42 00:02:56,706 --> 00:03:00,343 Think about that." 43 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:02,219 The reactions to my wedding announcement 44 00:03:02,295 --> 00:03:05,934 Were discouraging, but they didn't really surprise me. 45 00:03:06,009 --> 00:03:09,010 Then I got a letter I didn't expect. 46 00:03:09,086 --> 00:03:13,737 "Dear Mr. Wilson, I searched 47 00:03:13,813 --> 00:03:15,725 "for your address in Washington, D.C., 48 00:03:15,801 --> 00:03:18,764 "after I saw your wedding announcement in the paper. 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,352 "I'm the mother of a 16-year-old boy 50 00:03:21,429 --> 00:03:24,654 "who is being treated unjustly because he is gay. 51 00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:28,405 "I was told you were born and raised in Oil City, 52 00:03:28,482 --> 00:03:30,882 "so I feel a connection to you. 53 00:03:30,958 --> 00:03:34,333 "Last night, my son, C.J., cried for three hours 54 00:03:34,409 --> 00:03:38,460 "after being abused in public because of being gay. 55 00:03:38,536 --> 00:03:40,636 "I'm so afraid for him. 56 00:03:40,712 --> 00:03:42,962 "I don't know where else to turn. 57 00:03:43,038 --> 00:03:45,475 "Please help if you can. 58 00:03:45,552 --> 00:03:48,251 Sincerely, Kathy Springer." 59 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:51,253 Kathy's letter made me realize 60 00:03:51,329 --> 00:03:53,991 That the controversy about our wedding announcement 61 00:03:54,068 --> 00:03:55,605 Wasn't just about gay marriage. 62 00:03:55,681 --> 00:03:57,481 It was about the very existence 63 00:03:57,557 --> 00:03:59,694 Of openly gay people in Oil City. 64 00:03:59,770 --> 00:04:04,234 Here it was, 25 years after my own fear of being found out 65 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:08,060 Forced me to live in silence, and it didn't seem 66 00:04:08,137 --> 00:04:11,512 To be any easier to be gay in my hometown. 67 00:04:11,588 --> 00:04:13,837 I wanted to go back to Oil City and see 68 00:04:13,914 --> 00:04:16,727 If there was anything Dean and I could do to help. 69 00:04:16,802 --> 00:04:18,415 Documenting people's stories 70 00:04:18,491 --> 00:04:20,629 Seemed like a good place to start. 71 00:04:20,705 --> 00:04:22,616 So I asked Dean to grab the camera. 72 00:04:22,693 --> 00:04:27,794 ♫ I dreamed of fires burning ♫ 73 00:04:27,871 --> 00:04:28,995 ♫ low ♫ 74 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:31,358 ♫ in my head ♫ 75 00:04:31,434 --> 00:04:33,346 ♫ on a map below ♫ 76 00:04:33,423 --> 00:04:37,023 ♫ like an old friend ♫ 77 00:04:37,099 --> 00:04:40,062 ♫ that I used to know ♫ 78 00:04:40,137 --> 00:04:44,001 ♫ I've got seven hours ♫ 79 00:04:44,077 --> 00:04:47,865 ♫ and 15 miles to go ♫ 80 00:04:47,942 --> 00:04:50,079 ♫ instead ♫ 81 00:04:50,154 --> 00:04:52,592 ♫ and ain't it good ♫ 82 00:04:52,668 --> 00:04:57,995 ♫ to be back home? ♫ 83 00:05:02,385 --> 00:05:05,948 Young man: This was my school. 84 00:05:06,024 --> 00:05:08,800 Every day when the bus stopped 85 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:13,001 And I walked through that door to my locker 86 00:05:13,077 --> 00:05:16,002 Became eight hours of pure hell. 87 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:25,119 Wilson: What went on in there? 88 00:05:25,195 --> 00:05:28,307 Well, kids would come by, hit me with my locker, 89 00:05:28,384 --> 00:05:29,846 I'd fall on the ground, 90 00:05:29,922 --> 00:05:32,247 My books would fly everywhere. 91 00:05:32,323 --> 00:05:34,835 I was slammed into the lockers, 92 00:05:34,912 --> 00:05:37,949 Hit with stuff, being yelled, "faggot." 93 00:05:38,025 --> 00:05:41,851 Yep. 94 00:05:45,003 --> 00:05:47,066 This hall was always lovely. 95 00:05:47,142 --> 00:05:49,467 I'd have to walk through a crowd 96 00:05:49,543 --> 00:05:53,068 of kids, and there would always definitely be 97 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:56,708 some tripping going on or shoving or pushing. 98 00:05:56,784 --> 00:06:00,160 Grab my backpack and yanking me, 99 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:02,035 And stupid stuff. 100 00:06:02,111 --> 00:06:03,385 What did you feel inside 101 00:06:03,462 --> 00:06:05,599 When that kind of stuff was happening? 102 00:06:05,675 --> 00:06:07,662 Terrified. Nobody cared. 103 00:06:07,739 --> 00:06:09,163 None of the teachers cared. 104 00:06:09,239 --> 00:06:10,888 None of the administrators cared. 105 00:06:10,965 --> 00:06:12,914 They always gave a deaf ear 106 00:06:12,991 --> 00:06:14,452 And a blind eye. 107 00:06:14,529 --> 00:06:18,354 They'd watch everything, never say a word. 108 00:06:22,632 --> 00:06:24,169 Wilson: I wanted to understand 109 00:06:24,246 --> 00:06:27,809 What was behind the anti-gay sentiment in the area. 110 00:06:27,885 --> 00:06:30,360 It seemed like talking with people 111 00:06:30,435 --> 00:06:32,648 Who denounced our wedding announcement in the paper 112 00:06:32,724 --> 00:06:34,299 Would be a logical place to start. 113 00:06:34,375 --> 00:06:38,613 Only one couple agreed to be interviewed -- 114 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:40,976 Pastor Mark Micklos and his wife, Diana. 115 00:06:41,053 --> 00:06:45,141 If I grant two men the right to get married, 116 00:06:45,217 --> 00:06:48,292 What's wrong with incest? 117 00:06:48,369 --> 00:06:50,993 Or polygamy or -- and it would just, 118 00:06:51,070 --> 00:06:53,920 Just expand, and I think that things -- 119 00:06:53,996 --> 00:06:56,696 I think at times we've seen that happen. 120 00:06:56,772 --> 00:06:58,910 In plumbing, there's fittings, 121 00:06:58,985 --> 00:07:01,911 and they're called male and female fittings. 122 00:07:01,987 --> 00:07:05,025 And you could probably 123 00:07:05,101 --> 00:07:08,326 plumb a house with all male fittings, 124 00:07:08,403 --> 00:07:13,916 but it seems like the design is for male and female. 125 00:07:13,992 --> 00:07:16,767 Not for two likes to be together. 126 00:07:16,843 --> 00:07:20,556 It was hard to listen to what the Micklosses were saying, 127 00:07:20,633 --> 00:07:23,258 But the fact that they invited us to their home 128 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:25,771 and we were talking seemed like an opening. 129 00:07:25,847 --> 00:07:28,022 When I asked them why they had taken the trouble 130 00:07:28,098 --> 00:07:29,973 to write about our wedding announcement, 131 00:07:30,049 --> 00:07:32,899 they told me that their church had received an alert 132 00:07:32,976 --> 00:07:35,187 that asked members to write in protest. 133 00:07:35,264 --> 00:07:37,777 It was sent by the Pennsylvania arm 134 00:07:37,852 --> 00:07:41,003 Of the American Family Association, 135 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:43,178 A conservative values organization 136 00:07:43,255 --> 00:07:44,492 based in Mississippi. 137 00:07:44,568 --> 00:07:45,993 How did they key in 138 00:07:46,069 --> 00:07:48,919 on our little wedding announcement so fast? 139 00:07:48,995 --> 00:07:51,808 It turns out that the AFA's chapter president, 140 00:07:51,883 --> 00:07:54,621 Diane Gramley, lives right there in the area 141 00:07:54,697 --> 00:07:57,360 and has a program on a local radio station. 142 00:08:01,526 --> 00:08:02,912 Woman: Welcome to 143 00:08:02,988 --> 00:08:05,614 "American Family Focus on Pennsylvania issues," 144 00:08:05,689 --> 00:08:07,789 A weekly program which discusses 145 00:08:07,866 --> 00:08:10,528 some of the happenings that are of concern 146 00:08:10,604 --> 00:08:12,704 to the family and those who hold 147 00:08:12,781 --> 00:08:14,467 traditional values in Pennsylvania. 148 00:08:14,544 --> 00:08:16,268 And now your host, 149 00:08:16,345 --> 00:08:19,494 Diane Gramley, State Director of American Family Association 150 00:08:19,571 --> 00:08:21,183 of Pennsylvania. 151 00:08:21,259 --> 00:08:23,058 Gramley: The question comes down to: 152 00:08:23,135 --> 00:08:25,234 should a lifestyle that will result in the destruction 153 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:27,186 Of traditional marriage and the natural family -- 154 00:08:27,261 --> 00:08:28,761 not even mentioning 155 00:08:28,838 --> 00:08:31,312 the physical, mental, and psychological dangers 156 00:08:31,389 --> 00:08:33,451 to those involved in this lifestyle -- 157 00:08:33,526 --> 00:08:36,264 be normalized and codified into the laws of the land? 158 00:08:36,340 --> 00:08:39,791 Those involved in this lifestyle are sinners, 159 00:08:39,866 --> 00:08:42,342 and they need to accept the saving grace 160 00:08:42,418 --> 00:08:44,780 of Jesus Christ, just like you and me. 161 00:08:44,856 --> 00:08:47,182 Wilson: Back when I was growing up, 162 00:08:47,258 --> 00:08:50,145 People didn't talk about lifestyle so openly. 163 00:08:50,222 --> 00:08:51,908 And at my house, 164 00:08:51,985 --> 00:08:55,548 sexuality or being gay wasn't discussed at all. 165 00:08:55,623 --> 00:08:57,461 Even though right on our street, 166 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,711 just two doors down from our house, 167 00:08:59,788 --> 00:09:03,014 we had a neighbor with a rainbow flag on her door. 168 00:09:03,089 --> 00:09:05,714 Woman: I've lived in this community 169 00:09:05,791 --> 00:09:09,166 since I was 17 years old, and I've always been open. 170 00:09:09,243 --> 00:09:11,642 I mean, I never wore my sexuality on a sleeve, 171 00:09:11,719 --> 00:09:13,518 but people always knew who I was. 172 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:18,207 Nobody was ever negative to me, except one occasion. 173 00:09:18,284 --> 00:09:20,796 I was hired at this firm, 174 00:09:20,872 --> 00:09:23,197 and I worked there about six months, 175 00:09:23,274 --> 00:09:25,673 and then the president of the company, 176 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:28,974 after the Christmas party -- and I took my partner -- 177 00:09:29,051 --> 00:09:31,488 came in a few days later and fired me. 178 00:09:31,565 --> 00:09:33,364 Said he couldn't have the likes 179 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,502 of somebody like me working for the company. 180 00:09:35,579 --> 00:09:37,416 Okay. 181 00:09:37,492 --> 00:09:39,855 Be good, you guys. 182 00:09:39,930 --> 00:09:42,293 Come here. Come on. 183 00:09:45,108 --> 00:09:47,358 This is my house 184 00:09:47,434 --> 00:09:50,584 where my stepdad sells smelly birds. 185 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:53,510 Wilson: "choo-kers?" chukars or something like that? Chukars. 186 00:09:53,587 --> 00:09:56,586 Chukars, quails, and pheasants. 187 00:09:56,663 --> 00:09:58,463 Probably stinks. 188 00:09:58,538 --> 00:09:59,963 Yeah, it stinks. 189 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:03,903 Okay, the smell is a little too much. 190 00:10:03,979 --> 00:10:07,128 Okay, it's a little too real. 191 00:10:07,205 --> 00:10:10,656 That is not a place for -- 192 00:10:10,732 --> 00:10:14,182 Bills: The first day we came back from Christmas vacation, 193 00:10:14,258 --> 00:10:15,832 this kid, Richie,, 194 00:10:15,909 --> 00:10:18,796 who everybody's known he was gay since, like, 195 00:10:18,872 --> 00:10:21,535 the day he was born, came back to school. 196 00:10:21,611 --> 00:10:24,799 And I went into my history class, 197 00:10:24,875 --> 00:10:26,975 last period of the day, 198 00:10:27,051 --> 00:10:29,789 and some kid stood up and came over to him -- 199 00:10:29,865 --> 00:10:32,040 'cause he was standing by the door 200 00:10:32,116 --> 00:10:34,928 'cause he didn't have a seat or anything yet -- 201 00:10:35,005 --> 00:10:37,855 and some kid was like, "hey, are you a faggot?" 202 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:39,730 And I stood up, and I got in his face, 203 00:10:39,807 --> 00:10:41,718 and I was like, "why you got to call him that? 204 00:10:41,795 --> 00:10:43,219 "What did he do to you? 205 00:10:43,296 --> 00:10:45,358 "he's just standing there, hasn't said a word to anybody. 206 00:10:45,434 --> 00:10:46,821 Leave him alone." 207 00:10:46,897 --> 00:10:50,123 And he's like, "What? So are you a hard-ass homo then?" 208 00:10:50,198 --> 00:10:52,599 He's like, "You think you can take me?" 209 00:10:52,674 --> 00:10:54,511 And I was like, "Dude, I might be a faggot, 210 00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:56,237 but I'm more of a man than you'll be." 211 00:10:56,314 --> 00:10:58,038 And he's like, "So you're admitting it?" 212 00:10:58,115 --> 00:10:59,539 And I was like, "I am admitting 213 00:10:59,615 --> 00:11:01,790 "that if you say another word to me like that again, 214 00:11:01,866 --> 00:11:03,403 I am going to take your teeth out." 215 00:11:03,479 --> 00:11:05,692 There was a lot he didn't even tell me, 216 00:11:05,767 --> 00:11:07,380 you know, at first, 217 00:11:07,456 --> 00:11:09,106 because he'd come home, 218 00:11:09,182 --> 00:11:11,093 and he'd be real quiet, and he'd go to his room, 219 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:13,795 and he wouldn't come out for hours. 220 00:11:13,872 --> 00:11:15,859 I said, "You know, c.J., 221 00:11:15,935 --> 00:11:19,985 "there is nothing you could possibly be in this world 222 00:11:20,061 --> 00:11:23,287 that would ever make me stop loving you." 223 00:11:23,363 --> 00:11:27,638 So then, finally, one day, he says, 224 00:11:27,715 --> 00:11:30,715 "I'm tired of denying who I am, 225 00:11:30,791 --> 00:11:33,417 "and I'm tired of the abuse 226 00:11:33,492 --> 00:11:36,755 "and the harassment that gays take, 227 00:11:36,831 --> 00:11:38,932 "and I'm just coming out with it. 228 00:11:39,007 --> 00:11:40,807 I don't care." 229 00:11:40,883 --> 00:11:42,946 Wilson: Kathy had mentioned on the phone that c.J. 230 00:11:43,022 --> 00:11:45,158 wanted to make videos himself, so we gave him a camera 231 00:11:45,235 --> 00:11:47,936 and helped him get started by filming one of his friends. 232 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:49,699 Hamer: And if you want a close-up, 233 00:11:49,775 --> 00:11:51,424 you go like that. 234 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:53,225 Oops. Or whatever. 235 00:11:53,301 --> 00:11:55,739 And if you want far away, you go like that. 236 00:11:55,815 --> 00:11:58,552 So you try it. Film something. 237 00:11:58,628 --> 00:11:59,977 That's awesome. 238 00:12:00,054 --> 00:12:02,792 I was hoping c.J. Would use his new camera 239 00:12:02,867 --> 00:12:04,592 to shine some light 240 00:12:04,668 --> 00:12:07,668 on what life was like for him as a gay teen. 241 00:12:07,745 --> 00:12:10,595 For practice, I asked him to join us at a concert 242 00:12:10,671 --> 00:12:14,047 I helped to organize featuring Namoli Brennet. 243 00:12:14,122 --> 00:12:16,410 Namoli's a transgendered musician. 244 00:12:16,486 --> 00:12:20,162 She's also from a small town and lives her life very openly. 245 00:12:20,237 --> 00:12:23,576 Maybe it was the activist in me, 246 00:12:23,652 --> 00:12:25,489 but I thought she might be an inspiration 247 00:12:25,565 --> 00:12:27,102 for folks in Oil City. 248 00:12:27,178 --> 00:12:30,441 ♫ You don't know when you're gonna find me ♫ 249 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:33,067 ♫ You don't know when you're gonna take me ♫ 250 00:12:33,143 --> 00:12:36,669 ♫ home ♫ 251 00:12:36,745 --> 00:12:39,895 ♫ home ♫ 252 00:12:39,971 --> 00:12:42,821 Wilson: Oil City became a real boomtown back in 1859 253 00:12:42,898 --> 00:12:45,522 when colonel Edwin Drake 254 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:48,224 drilled the first oil well in the United States. 255 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:52,125 The area had about 100 years of growth and prosperity, 256 00:12:52,202 --> 00:12:55,990 but by the time I came along, the wells had dried up, 257 00:12:56,065 --> 00:12:59,028 and jobs and people were moving out. 258 00:12:59,104 --> 00:13:01,430 It had become the sort of rust belt town 259 00:13:01,506 --> 00:13:03,718 that time seemed to be leaving behind, 260 00:13:03,794 --> 00:13:05,594 Where things didn't change much 261 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:07,845 and outsiders were viewed with suspicion. 262 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:11,408 Like many small towns, 263 00:13:11,485 --> 00:13:13,885 Oil City is trying to make a comeback. 264 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,761 If it can figure out 265 00:13:15,837 --> 00:13:17,899 how to use its small-town spirt 266 00:13:17,976 --> 00:13:20,300 to make everyone feel welcome there, 267 00:13:20,376 --> 00:13:22,626 it just might happen. 268 00:13:22,703 --> 00:13:25,739 Brennet: ♫ I can be ♫ 269 00:13:25,816 --> 00:13:27,504 ♫ myself ♫ 270 00:13:27,579 --> 00:13:30,617 ♫ and no one else ♫ 271 00:13:30,693 --> 00:13:34,031 ♫ goes home ♫ 272 00:13:35,796 --> 00:13:37,370 Thanks, everybody. 273 00:13:48,476 --> 00:13:51,776 Wilson: The biggest event of the year in Oil City 274 00:13:51,853 --> 00:13:53,915 is the oil heritage parade. 275 00:13:53,991 --> 00:13:56,053 Most people come out to watch their kids March 276 00:13:56,129 --> 00:13:58,117 or their friends ride around silly floats. 277 00:13:58,193 --> 00:14:01,606 Even in the pouring rain. 278 00:14:01,682 --> 00:14:05,094 So I wasn't expecting to see an anti-gay marriage protest 279 00:14:05,171 --> 00:14:07,458 led by none other than Diane Gramley 280 00:14:07,534 --> 00:14:09,784 of the American Family Association. 281 00:14:09,861 --> 00:14:11,847 She'd already refused several requests 282 00:14:11,924 --> 00:14:13,610 to be formally interviewed, 283 00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:15,674 so I tried a more direct approach. 284 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:17,400 Hi, Diane. How are you? 285 00:14:17,476 --> 00:14:18,788 Fine, and you? 286 00:14:18,865 --> 00:14:21,264 I'm not going to be part of your documentary. 287 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:23,365 Yeah, we just wanted to know why 288 00:14:23,441 --> 00:14:25,053 You're so actively seeking 289 00:14:25,130 --> 00:14:27,829 to discriminate against gay and lesbian people. 290 00:14:27,906 --> 00:14:29,818 We talked about it on the phone. 291 00:14:29,893 --> 00:14:31,694 Well, why do you think that they don't deserve 292 00:14:31,770 --> 00:14:35,746 to live freely in society as you do? 293 00:14:35,821 --> 00:14:37,921 They have every right to live freely, 294 00:14:37,998 --> 00:14:40,135 and they are living freely in society. 295 00:14:40,211 --> 00:14:42,685 I would like to know why you encourage children 296 00:14:42,762 --> 00:14:44,936 to participate in a dangerous lifestyle. 297 00:14:45,013 --> 00:14:46,588 Hey, Joe, how you doing? 298 00:14:46,663 --> 00:14:48,463 Good, and you? Nice to see you. 299 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:50,339 Good seeing you. Yeah. 300 00:14:50,415 --> 00:14:52,253 Gramley: There've been homosexuals throughout society, 301 00:14:52,329 --> 00:14:53,754 but they have not attempted 302 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:56,792 to redefine marriage and family as they are today. 303 00:14:56,868 --> 00:14:58,781 Everything else with gay people is okay, right? 304 00:14:58,857 --> 00:15:00,507 They can teach school. 305 00:15:00,582 --> 00:15:02,757 If they have a job, and they're doing their job, 306 00:15:02,833 --> 00:15:04,670 they have every right to have that job. 307 00:15:04,746 --> 00:15:06,771 And they could be out on the job and tell people 308 00:15:06,848 --> 00:15:08,422 that they're gay when they're asked? 309 00:15:08,498 --> 00:15:12,023 No, 'cause that's promoting a lifestyle. 310 00:15:16,077 --> 00:15:18,214 Well, I know that. 311 00:15:21,854 --> 00:15:24,742 Wilson: Things had become increasingly bad 312 00:15:24,818 --> 00:15:26,880 at c.J.'s high school. 313 00:15:26,956 --> 00:15:30,219 When he finally complained about the abuse he was receiving, 314 00:15:30,295 --> 00:15:33,070 the assistant principal blamed him for the trouble 315 00:15:33,147 --> 00:15:34,984 and called the State Police. 316 00:15:35,059 --> 00:15:37,648 Kathy decided to take c.J. out of school 317 00:15:37,723 --> 00:15:40,273 and go to the school board for answers. 318 00:15:40,349 --> 00:15:42,224 All: One nation under God, 319 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:46,576 Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 320 00:15:50,254 --> 00:15:53,779 Woman: Any other business to enter? 321 00:15:53,855 --> 00:15:57,118 My name's -- oh, I'm sorry. 322 00:15:57,195 --> 00:15:59,669 Please state your name for the record. 323 00:16:01,922 --> 00:16:03,496 My name is Kathy Springer. 324 00:16:03,572 --> 00:16:05,859 Have you implemented, 325 00:16:05,936 --> 00:16:08,448 or are you going to implement 326 00:16:08,524 --> 00:16:12,087 a change in how discrimination is handled 327 00:16:12,163 --> 00:16:14,376 in this school district? 328 00:16:14,451 --> 00:16:16,852 I recently had to pull my son out 329 00:16:16,928 --> 00:16:20,228 because of discrimination and how it was handled. 330 00:16:20,305 --> 00:16:23,905 Are you -- is there a better way of handling things? 331 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:27,018 Man: Ma'am, do me a favor. Will you give me a call? 332 00:16:27,095 --> 00:16:30,282 Okay? This isn't the time to -- 333 00:16:30,359 --> 00:16:33,134 I just, as a taxpayer, wanted to know if -- 334 00:16:33,210 --> 00:16:36,135 you know, should I decide to send my son back? 335 00:16:36,211 --> 00:16:38,498 Are there going to be any changes? 336 00:16:38,575 --> 00:16:40,187 That's all. 337 00:16:40,263 --> 00:16:42,775 There have been discussions taking place, 338 00:16:42,815 --> 00:16:44,839 and there have been issues 339 00:16:44,915 --> 00:16:47,615 not only with myself and Mr. Richmond, 340 00:16:47,691 --> 00:16:50,541 Mr. Forrester, and the other principals, 341 00:16:50,618 --> 00:16:53,580 so I don't know if that's -- 342 00:16:53,657 --> 00:16:57,106 But, please, feel free to give me a call, okay? 343 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,545 It was like, "oh, god, 344 00:16:59,622 --> 00:17:03,635 give her her five minutes and get her out of here." 345 00:17:03,711 --> 00:17:07,724 I really don't see that they've seen us as a threat or anything. 346 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,787 We were just an annoyance. 347 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:11,288 Mm-hmm. 348 00:17:11,365 --> 00:17:13,126 Wilson: Shortly after kathy's appearance, 349 00:17:13,203 --> 00:17:15,639 the school board did propose a plan 350 00:17:15,716 --> 00:17:18,641 for inclusive anti-discrimination training. 351 00:17:18,717 --> 00:17:21,342 But there was suddenly an unusual amount 352 00:17:21,419 --> 00:17:23,630 of opposition from the community, 353 00:17:23,707 --> 00:17:26,444 especially from an African-American Pastor 354 00:17:26,521 --> 00:17:29,408 who wanted the training to focus only on race 355 00:17:29,485 --> 00:17:32,109 and not even mention sexual orientation. 356 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:34,135 A Derrick reporter discovered 357 00:17:34,212 --> 00:17:36,649 the reason for the racial outcry. 358 00:17:36,725 --> 00:17:40,251 Diane Gramley had sent out another action alert. 359 00:17:40,327 --> 00:17:42,802 This one accused the school district 360 00:17:42,878 --> 00:17:46,591 of trying to hijack civil rights to promote homosexuality. 361 00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:50,680 The diversity training never happened. 362 00:17:50,757 --> 00:17:53,944 I have to admit, in this environment, 363 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:56,007 it was a clever strategy 364 00:17:56,084 --> 00:17:59,347 to pit one minority group against another. 365 00:17:59,422 --> 00:18:01,259 I'll tell you what we're doing. 366 00:18:01,336 --> 00:18:03,248 We got married a couple years ago, 367 00:18:03,324 --> 00:18:05,912 and we put our wedding announcement in the paper, 368 00:18:05,987 --> 00:18:08,876 and it turned into this, like, controversy or whatever. 369 00:18:08,951 --> 00:18:11,239 I got beat up about a month ago. 370 00:18:11,316 --> 00:18:13,302 What? Oh, yeah. 371 00:18:13,379 --> 00:18:17,016 I never thought people were racist or anything. 372 00:18:17,093 --> 00:18:21,030 I'm Arab, and this girl wouldn't stop talking crap, 373 00:18:21,107 --> 00:18:25,007 and I faced her in lunch, and she ploughed me down. 374 00:18:25,083 --> 00:18:27,671 There was blood all over me. 375 00:18:27,747 --> 00:18:29,660 I didn't have a chance. 376 00:18:29,736 --> 00:18:31,610 This place is rough. 377 00:18:31,687 --> 00:18:34,499 If you are not a man 378 00:18:34,575 --> 00:18:36,225 with white skin 379 00:18:36,301 --> 00:18:39,901 and who likes to do the missionary position, 380 00:18:39,978 --> 00:18:41,889 it's over. 381 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,530 Wilson: Although gay people are everywhere, 382 00:18:48,606 --> 00:18:50,443 we're not always visible. 383 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,507 Roxanne and some of her friends 384 00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:54,945 wanted to change that in Oil City. 385 00:18:55,022 --> 00:18:58,359 They put together a volunteer group to participate 386 00:18:58,435 --> 00:19:00,536 in community activities like town cleanup day. 387 00:19:00,611 --> 00:19:02,074 What are you guys up to today? 388 00:19:02,149 --> 00:19:03,949 Man: Everybody that's driving by thinks 389 00:19:04,026 --> 00:19:06,463 that we're on work release and that's why we're out here. 390 00:19:06,539 --> 00:19:08,488 Wilson: Would you mind saying 391 00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:10,702 a little bit of a word right now? 392 00:19:12,429 --> 00:19:14,867 Just being out in the community doing something, 393 00:19:14,942 --> 00:19:16,593 just helping. 394 00:19:16,668 --> 00:19:19,669 It's kind of a nasty day, but we did it anyway. 395 00:19:19,744 --> 00:19:20,981 Hey, Greg. 396 00:19:21,058 --> 00:19:22,294 What? 397 00:19:22,371 --> 00:19:24,471 Can you say a little bit 398 00:19:24,547 --> 00:19:27,021 about what you're doing today? 399 00:19:27,098 --> 00:19:30,736 Wilson: Cleanup day was supposed to be a community-wide event, 400 00:19:30,812 --> 00:19:33,024 but we only saw one other volunteer 401 00:19:33,101 --> 00:19:35,312 who wasn't part of Roxanne's group. 402 00:19:35,389 --> 00:19:37,001 So I asked her, 403 00:19:37,078 --> 00:19:40,077 "If there were a visible gay and lesbian group in Oil City 404 00:19:40,154 --> 00:19:42,216 would anyone in the community object?" 405 00:19:42,292 --> 00:19:45,143 I guess you're going to have radicals everywhere, 406 00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:48,368 and they'll find a way to articulate what bothers them. 407 00:19:48,445 --> 00:19:52,608 But how can you target people who are doing something good? 408 00:19:52,684 --> 00:19:54,446 You know? 409 00:19:54,522 --> 00:20:01,386 Brennet: ♫ Ain't it good to be back home? ♫ 410 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:06,527 Me being me? Yeah.. 411 00:20:06,602 --> 00:20:08,290 I definitely want to see that. 412 00:20:08,366 --> 00:20:10,390 Oh, no. 413 00:20:10,467 --> 00:20:12,717 C.J., is there anything on there 414 00:20:12,793 --> 00:20:14,667 you don't want me to see? 415 00:20:18,233 --> 00:20:21,120 Is this on? 416 00:20:21,197 --> 00:20:23,559 Hello out there. 417 00:20:23,635 --> 00:20:25,922 Okay. 418 00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:38,415 Boy: That hurt? 419 00:20:38,492 --> 00:20:39,879 ♫ I'm feeling so unique ♫ 420 00:20:39,954 --> 00:20:41,567 ♫ I'm feeling really funky ♫ 421 00:20:41,643 --> 00:20:43,781 ♫ I kind of like this beat ♫ 422 00:20:43,856 --> 00:20:45,956 ♫ could this be a dream? ♫ 423 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:51,547 ♫ Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference ♫ 424 00:20:51,622 --> 00:20:53,234 ♫ I made ♫ 425 00:20:53,311 --> 00:20:55,410 ♫ too many hazy nights ♫ 426 00:20:55,486 --> 00:20:59,237 ♫ too many lonely days ♫ 427 00:20:59,313 --> 00:21:01,750 Stop, c.J. 428 00:21:01,827 --> 00:21:04,114 ♫ set me free ♫ 429 00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,215 ♫ set me free ♫ 430 00:21:06,291 --> 00:21:08,391 ♫ come on and set me free ♫ 431 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:11,205 ♫ I got to set me free ♫ 432 00:21:13,157 --> 00:21:15,294 Jesus Christ! 433 00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:19,570 I think I got spina bifida. Cut. 434 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:23,698 I know. 435 00:21:23,774 --> 00:21:26,211 Boy: He went "Oops." 436 00:21:26,287 --> 00:21:28,312 Wilson: How do you feel, as a parent, 437 00:21:28,389 --> 00:21:30,263 that the cyber school is the option -- 438 00:21:30,339 --> 00:21:33,002 that I had to turn to? 439 00:21:33,077 --> 00:21:35,441 I don't like the idea, no. 440 00:21:35,516 --> 00:21:39,755 My son, I wanted him to be able to be involved 441 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:43,356 with all the other school activities, 442 00:21:43,433 --> 00:21:47,070 the camaraderie, you know, everything, 443 00:21:47,146 --> 00:21:50,747 the prom, the whole schmear, you know. 444 00:21:50,823 --> 00:21:53,673 And I feel that he was gypped. 445 00:21:53,749 --> 00:21:58,025 He doesn't have that interaction 446 00:21:58,101 --> 00:22:00,876 That I think he needs. 447 00:22:00,952 --> 00:22:03,427 Wilson: I was hoping that the camera 448 00:22:03,504 --> 00:22:05,303 would help c.J.'s education. 449 00:22:05,379 --> 00:22:07,216 I asked him to film something 450 00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:09,805 a little more intellectual next time. 451 00:22:09,881 --> 00:22:13,444 Hitchcock: You know, one thing about living in a small town 452 00:22:13,521 --> 00:22:16,257 is that the gene pool is so limited. 453 00:22:16,334 --> 00:22:20,610 You know, trying to meet somebody is really hard. 454 00:22:20,686 --> 00:22:23,349 Wilson: So who's this special lady that's in your life? 455 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:24,887 Her name is linda. 456 00:22:24,963 --> 00:22:26,875 Where's she at?? 457 00:22:26,951 --> 00:22:28,976 I'll never forget how excited you were 458 00:22:29,053 --> 00:22:30,889 when I talked to you on the phone, 459 00:22:30,965 --> 00:22:32,841 and you said, "oh, I met somebody." 460 00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:34,753 Henderson: Well, the cool part about it 461 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:36,930 is everybody's saying the same thing about me. 462 00:22:37,005 --> 00:22:39,143 People asking me what in the world's going on 463 00:22:39,219 --> 00:22:41,132 'cause I'm running around smiling a lot. 464 00:22:41,207 --> 00:22:44,208 You know, all of the sudden, 465 00:22:44,283 --> 00:22:48,710 I've been telling people I have a family now. 466 00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:51,823 Hitchcock: In some ways, she's the total opposite of me. 467 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:55,050 You know, I can be aggressive and antagonistic, 468 00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:57,601 and she's just kind of quiet and the peacemaker, 469 00:22:57,677 --> 00:23:01,652 and she's just calm. 470 00:23:01,729 --> 00:23:05,217 And she's very gifted. She's great with people. 471 00:23:05,293 --> 00:23:09,306 She is the best thing that ever happened to me. 472 00:23:09,382 --> 00:23:13,132 Henderson: ♫ I was with George Washington ♫ 473 00:23:13,209 --> 00:23:16,509 ♫ one night at valley forge ♫ 474 00:23:16,585 --> 00:23:21,011 ♫ "why do the soldiers freeze here like they do?" ♫ 475 00:23:21,087 --> 00:23:25,663 ♫ he said, "men will suffer, fight ♫ 476 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:29,227 ♫ "even die for what is right ♫ 477 00:23:29,303 --> 00:23:32,041 ♫ "even though they know ♫ 478 00:23:32,117 --> 00:23:35,529 ♫ they're only passing through" ♫ 479 00:23:35,606 --> 00:23:38,569 ♫ passing through ♫ 480 00:23:38,645 --> 00:23:40,782 ♫ passing through ♫ 481 00:23:40,858 --> 00:23:44,008 ♫ sometimes happy, sometimes blue ♫ 482 00:23:44,085 --> 00:23:47,535 ♫ glad that I ran into you ♫ 483 00:23:47,611 --> 00:23:50,124 ♫ I've some little time ♫ 484 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,864 ♫ now I'm just passing through ♫ 485 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,527 Wilson: Whoo. 486 00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:00,403 Beautiful voice. 487 00:24:00,479 --> 00:24:02,992 Thank you. 488 00:24:03,067 --> 00:24:05,131 Did you look at a lot of cars, 489 00:24:05,206 --> 00:24:07,981 or is this, you know, just kind of came up? 490 00:24:08,057 --> 00:24:10,195 Yeah, like I got a couple grand to throw around 491 00:24:10,271 --> 00:24:12,070 on a nice, fancy-schmancy car. 492 00:24:12,147 --> 00:24:14,697 $150. That was it. 493 00:24:14,773 --> 00:24:16,872 It wasn't even into the 200s. 494 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:22,238 Still have to get a new exhaust, battery, tires, 495 00:24:22,313 --> 00:24:25,614 the title transferred, my license, 496 00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:28,278 and then I'll be on the road. 497 00:24:30,492 --> 00:24:33,268 I don't think I'll probably ever be able 498 00:24:33,343 --> 00:24:35,705 to, like, walk down through the streets 499 00:24:35,782 --> 00:24:37,582 of anywhere around here. 500 00:24:37,657 --> 00:24:40,133 I used to have, like, a reputation and stuff 501 00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:42,121 as a bad-ass and all this stuff, 502 00:24:42,197 --> 00:24:44,409 but right now, my life consists 503 00:24:44,486 --> 00:24:47,561 of being around my animals and my garage 504 00:24:47,637 --> 00:24:49,287 with my mommy. 505 00:24:49,363 --> 00:24:51,088 What are you thinking about? 506 00:24:51,163 --> 00:24:52,588 What am I thinking about? 507 00:24:52,664 --> 00:24:54,765 When you're sitting here in your car. 508 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,616 Nothing, really. 509 00:24:57,691 --> 00:25:00,016 Eventually, once in a while, wondering 510 00:25:00,093 --> 00:25:03,918 if this thing will actually ever leave this garage. 511 00:25:12,361 --> 00:25:14,723 Hey. How are you? 512 00:25:14,798 --> 00:25:16,936 Wilson: I wasn't sure if we would hear 513 00:25:17,012 --> 00:25:18,737 from Pastor Micklos again, 514 00:25:18,814 --> 00:25:22,114 but when he called to invite us to lunch with his family, 515 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:25,040 I thought I'd see where it would lead. 516 00:25:25,116 --> 00:25:27,741 When you contacted me or I contacted you 517 00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:29,616 or however it occurred, 518 00:25:29,693 --> 00:25:31,755 one of the things that I prayed 519 00:25:31,831 --> 00:25:34,419 was that you would see Christ in us. 520 00:25:34,495 --> 00:25:37,533 I just don't see my life through a Christian framework. 521 00:25:37,608 --> 00:25:40,947 That's just not how I want to view the world, you know. 522 00:25:41,023 --> 00:25:43,610 But can we, at some point though, 523 00:25:43,687 --> 00:25:46,086 get to a point where we respect that 524 00:25:46,163 --> 00:25:47,963 and respect each other? 525 00:25:48,038 --> 00:25:50,138 Well, no. 526 00:25:52,015 --> 00:25:55,541 I mean, I can respect your Christian beliefs, 527 00:25:55,616 --> 00:25:58,017 but if 528 00:25:58,093 --> 00:26:00,605 some of those beliefs 529 00:26:00,681 --> 00:26:03,232 are aimed at limiting 530 00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:06,271 other people's full participation in society, 531 00:26:06,346 --> 00:26:08,596 No, I can't respect that. 532 00:26:08,672 --> 00:26:10,322 I have to struggle against that. 533 00:26:10,398 --> 00:26:14,299 I can respect the Mark Micklos that I know 534 00:26:14,375 --> 00:26:15,986 in hopes that he reaches 535 00:26:16,063 --> 00:26:18,200 a higher point of enlightenment, 536 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:20,226 and that I would be his friend, 537 00:26:20,303 --> 00:26:22,252 you know, through that process. 538 00:26:22,328 --> 00:26:24,391 And that's where we're at. 539 00:26:24,466 --> 00:26:26,904 Yeah. 540 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,334 Bills: What was your first thought 541 00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:39,848 when I first came out? 542 00:26:39,923 --> 00:26:43,524 My first reaction was probably... 543 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,400 I was probably shocked. 544 00:26:45,476 --> 00:26:46,901 Why? 545 00:26:46,976 --> 00:26:48,439 Just because -- 546 00:26:48,514 --> 00:26:50,952 You think I was putting on a front? 547 00:26:51,028 --> 00:26:55,378 No. I just didn't really think you'd come out. 548 00:26:55,455 --> 00:26:56,767 Laura? 549 00:26:56,843 --> 00:26:58,117 Yes? 550 00:26:58,194 --> 00:26:59,806 Your turn. 551 00:26:59,882 --> 00:27:02,394 You have to ask me a question. 552 00:27:02,471 --> 00:27:04,758 How did you feel when Richie first came out? 553 00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:06,633 I was happy for him and stuff. 554 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,585 You know, I was happy for you, too, 555 00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:10,198 'cause you finally came out. 556 00:27:10,274 --> 00:27:12,974 Like, 'cause, you know, if you're gay, 557 00:27:13,050 --> 00:27:16,425 you've always been gay, but you finally came out, 558 00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:19,426 so I don't know, I was just happy for you. 559 00:27:19,578 --> 00:27:22,841 I could never 560 00:27:22,917 --> 00:27:25,280 deny who I am. 561 00:27:25,355 --> 00:27:28,393 I couldn't deny it. 562 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:30,344 I was trying to find ways around it, 563 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:32,445 but people kept directing the question, 564 00:27:32,521 --> 00:27:34,809 "are you gay?" to my face. 565 00:27:34,885 --> 00:27:38,035 I didn't know what to say, but I couldn't deny who I was, 566 00:27:38,111 --> 00:27:40,024 so I ended up having -- 567 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,975 I ended up saying that, "you know what, yeah. 568 00:27:45,052 --> 00:27:49,590 So what is it to you? Big deal." 569 00:27:49,666 --> 00:27:54,580 And I guess it was a big deal to everybody. 570 00:27:54,656 --> 00:27:57,919 I know that everybody cared because at that day, 571 00:27:57,994 --> 00:27:59,907 everybody began to hate. 572 00:27:59,983 --> 00:28:03,659 I was no longer anybody that anyone liked. 573 00:28:03,735 --> 00:28:06,735 Everybody hated c.J. Bills. 574 00:28:13,189 --> 00:28:16,076 Henderson: It's actually rather phenomenal, 575 00:28:16,153 --> 00:28:19,191 and sometimes a little scary, that so much has happened 576 00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:22,079 in such a short amount of time. 577 00:28:22,156 --> 00:28:24,592 Wilson: Roxanne and linda had decided 578 00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:26,469 to buy and renovate the Latonia, 579 00:28:26,544 --> 00:28:27,856 a historic theater 580 00:28:27,933 --> 00:28:29,470 that had seen better days. 581 00:28:29,546 --> 00:28:30,820 They wanted to help 582 00:28:30,897 --> 00:28:33,896 revitalize downtown Oil City by creating 583 00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:36,147 a space for special events. 584 00:28:36,224 --> 00:28:37,611 Hitchcock: I came in for a massage 585 00:28:37,687 --> 00:28:40,312 One day, and my massage therapist said, 586 00:28:40,388 --> 00:28:42,863 "you know, the original chandelier is here -- 587 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:44,514 You gotta go see it." 588 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:48,190 She loaned me this tiny, little itty-bitty flashlight, 589 00:28:48,267 --> 00:28:51,191 and I snuck up, and the door was unlocked. 590 00:28:51,268 --> 00:28:53,630 The room was dark, and I came in, 591 00:28:53,707 --> 00:28:57,270 and my little heart just went pitter-patter. 592 00:28:57,346 --> 00:29:01,884 I could not believe something like that was here in Oil City. 593 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,736 It just seemed almost criminal to me that it was, 594 00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:10,437 you know, just, just sitting. 595 00:29:10,514 --> 00:29:11,713 Hitchcock: The building wasn't even really 596 00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:13,214 on the market -- we just called up the guy, 597 00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:14,939 said, "how much do you want for it?" 598 00:29:15,015 --> 00:29:17,416 He told us, and we said, "okay." 599 00:29:17,491 --> 00:29:18,803 let's sign papers, 600 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,867 And we just kind of went from there. 601 00:29:20,943 --> 00:29:22,555 Henderson: Once it's ready, 602 00:29:22,632 --> 00:29:24,543 there's got to be a grand opening. 603 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:27,470 Hitchcock: Yeah, 'cause I don't think that chandelier 604 00:29:27,547 --> 00:29:29,909 Has been lit up in probably 50 years. 605 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,834 Wilson: Wow. 606 00:30:00,411 --> 00:30:02,961 Wilson: Since C.J. told me that he was sticking 607 00:30:03,037 --> 00:30:05,436 pretty close to home to avoid being hassled, 608 00:30:05,513 --> 00:30:08,137 I hadn't seen him in a while. 609 00:30:08,214 --> 00:30:09,601 His high school's homecoming 610 00:30:09,676 --> 00:30:11,926 was his first time out of the house in months. 611 00:30:12,003 --> 00:30:14,778 Here comes c.J. Over there. 612 00:30:14,854 --> 00:30:17,554 He's walking by -- let's go. 613 00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:19,955 What's up, guys? 614 00:30:20,032 --> 00:30:21,981 Hey, what's up, dude? How you doing? 615 00:30:22,057 --> 00:30:24,457 What's going on? So how you been? 616 00:30:24,534 --> 00:30:25,995 Pretty peachy. 617 00:30:26,072 --> 00:30:27,384 Yeah? 618 00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:28,734 Place good? 619 00:30:28,810 --> 00:30:29,860 I like your earrings. 620 00:30:29,935 --> 00:30:30,985 Thank you. 621 00:30:31,061 --> 00:30:33,049 Gotta make sure I look cute 622 00:30:33,125 --> 00:30:34,924 when I go out in public. 623 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,751 Where'd the guys go? 624 00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:40,815 They didn't want to be on camera, huh? 625 00:30:40,891 --> 00:30:45,354 I don't know. They drifted somewhere. 626 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,056 Wilson: It was great 627 00:30:48,131 --> 00:30:49,931 to see C.J. out of the house. 628 00:30:50,007 --> 00:30:54,020 But I didn't want to make him nervous around his friends. 629 00:30:54,097 --> 00:30:58,372 I told him I'd catch up with him later. 630 00:31:04,151 --> 00:31:05,988 Bills: When I was leaving the game, 631 00:31:06,064 --> 00:31:08,464 there was a whole group of skater kids outside, 632 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:09,927 Like, "are you still gay?" 633 00:31:10,003 --> 00:31:12,741 I went, "I ain't a faggot. What you talking about?" 634 00:31:12,817 --> 00:31:14,241 And they were like, "oh, okay." 635 00:31:14,317 --> 00:31:17,130 And they just watched me walk away and stuff, 636 00:31:17,206 --> 00:31:20,619 And I was like, oh, god -- damn. 637 00:31:20,696 --> 00:31:22,570 Wilson: You know, once you kind of come out, 638 00:31:22,647 --> 00:31:24,484 I mean, it's hard to, like -- 639 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:25,909 Go back in? 640 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:27,072 Yeah. 641 00:31:27,149 --> 00:31:28,385 Noticed. 642 00:31:28,461 --> 00:31:30,111 Yeah. 643 00:31:30,187 --> 00:31:33,488 I actually had people talk to me 644 00:31:33,563 --> 00:31:34,875 on Friday. 645 00:31:34,952 --> 00:31:36,301 I never -- that hasn't happened 646 00:31:36,377 --> 00:31:37,727 since last year. 647 00:31:37,803 --> 00:31:39,902 Wilson: Yeah, we noticed a lot of people 648 00:31:39,979 --> 00:31:42,416 came up and kind of greeted you, gave you a hug. 649 00:31:42,493 --> 00:31:43,842 Mm-hmm. 650 00:31:43,918 --> 00:31:45,755 And that's because they think 651 00:31:45,831 --> 00:31:48,419 you're not what they thought you were? 652 00:31:48,495 --> 00:31:49,882 Mm-mm, cover it up. 653 00:31:49,959 --> 00:31:53,483 At least until I get away from here. 654 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,586 Springer: You shouldn't have to live in denial, you know? 655 00:31:58,662 --> 00:32:00,312 But I know there's been times 656 00:32:00,387 --> 00:32:02,300 Where he wished he would have just 657 00:32:02,376 --> 00:32:04,963 kept his mouth shut, and nobody would know, and -- 658 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,139 Bills: Oh, every time I go into public, 659 00:32:07,215 --> 00:32:09,804 I wish I wouldn't ever opened my mouth. 660 00:32:09,879 --> 00:32:13,779 Every single day. 661 00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:15,205 It's hell. 662 00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,682 It's not like D.C. Or New York, 663 00:32:17,757 --> 00:32:19,633 where everybody's liberal. 664 00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:22,371 I get threatened to get killed. 665 00:32:22,447 --> 00:32:24,809 That ain't fun. 666 00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:32,951 Hi. 667 00:32:33,026 --> 00:32:35,539 Wilson: I'm here tonight to say that I'm deeply concerned 668 00:32:35,616 --> 00:32:38,166 at the charges of harassment, violence, and discrimination 669 00:32:38,241 --> 00:32:40,903 that have ruled the Franklin school district 670 00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:42,629 for the past year and a half. 671 00:32:42,706 --> 00:32:45,143 Gay students and students of color at the high school 672 00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:47,507 have been the primary targets of these activities. 673 00:32:47,583 --> 00:32:50,095 Their ability to speak for themselves 674 00:32:50,172 --> 00:32:51,972 is greatly hampered by fears 675 00:32:52,047 --> 00:32:54,785 of backlash if they do so publicly. 676 00:32:54,861 --> 00:32:56,098 Death threats have been issued 677 00:32:56,175 --> 00:32:57,899 against students in this school district 678 00:32:57,975 --> 00:33:00,337 and it just pains me 679 00:33:00,413 --> 00:33:02,251 that no action has actually been taken. 680 00:33:02,327 --> 00:33:04,389 So thank you for accepting these comments 681 00:33:04,466 --> 00:33:06,115 in the public record -- I appreciate it, 682 00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:07,690 and I look forward to your response. 683 00:33:07,767 --> 00:33:10,054 Woman: Thank you. 684 00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:12,905 Any other visitors at this time? 685 00:33:12,982 --> 00:33:15,756 Wilson: It was obvious that the school board 686 00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,796 wasn't concerned about C.J. or any gay student. 687 00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:22,547 But the problem wasn't just with the school. 688 00:33:22,623 --> 00:33:25,886 Man: It can happen to your town. 689 00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:27,499 AFA presents a look at how 690 00:33:27,576 --> 00:33:30,238 a handful of homosexual activists changed the very 691 00:33:30,314 --> 00:33:31,814 moral fiber of the city. 692 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:33,014 They are taking over... 693 00:33:33,091 --> 00:33:34,402 Wilson: This video is being promoted 694 00:33:34,478 --> 00:33:35,753 by a local Christian radio station 695 00:33:35,829 --> 00:33:37,704 to counter increasingly visible 696 00:33:37,779 --> 00:33:39,204 gay people in Oil City. 697 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,517 As Christian people. 698 00:33:40,594 --> 00:33:42,393 Announcer: Learn the strategies used 699 00:33:42,469 --> 00:33:44,194 by gay activists and don't let this 700 00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:45,357 happen to your city. 701 00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:46,858 Man: If it's not happened 702 00:33:46,934 --> 00:33:48,058 in your town, get ready, 703 00:33:48,135 --> 00:33:49,484 'cause it is going to happen. 704 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,359 Announcer: Purchase your copy 705 00:33:51,436 --> 00:33:54,136 or a five-pack to share with others today, 706 00:33:54,212 --> 00:33:55,524 and spread the news. 707 00:33:55,601 --> 00:33:58,862 They're coming to your town. 708 00:34:06,217 --> 00:34:08,129 Is that too long? 709 00:34:08,206 --> 00:34:09,743 Henderson: No, that's probably okay. 710 00:34:09,818 --> 00:34:11,918 That's my chainsaw, by the way. 711 00:34:11,995 --> 00:34:13,081 Mine disappeared. 712 00:34:13,158 --> 00:34:15,332 I don't know where mine went. 713 00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:17,546 Wilson: You each have your own chainsaw? 714 00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:18,935 I used to. 715 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:20,285 Whose is bigger? 716 00:34:20,361 --> 00:34:22,573 Hers would be bigger. 717 00:34:22,649 --> 00:34:25,762 I bet I've cut more wood than she has, though. 718 00:34:25,838 --> 00:34:29,401 Narrator: Roxanne can complain about a small gene pool, 719 00:34:29,478 --> 00:34:31,840 But she found a really great mate. 720 00:34:31,915 --> 00:34:34,578 When Linda caught wind of the AFA video 721 00:34:34,654 --> 00:34:36,342 about gays coming to town, 722 00:34:36,417 --> 00:34:38,630 she composed a poetic response. 723 00:34:38,706 --> 00:34:40,356 Henderson: Why do you suppose 724 00:34:40,432 --> 00:34:42,719 there are empty store fronts?S? 725 00:34:42,796 --> 00:34:45,121 They're choking our town. 726 00:34:45,196 --> 00:34:49,323 Why do you suppose there's a brain drain? 727 00:34:49,398 --> 00:34:51,836 They're choking our town. 728 00:34:51,912 --> 00:34:56,488 Why do you suppose there is no unique art? 729 00:34:56,564 --> 00:35:00,090 They're choking our town. 730 00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:01,965 It's time for a change. 731 00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:07,067 Stop choking our town. 732 00:35:09,469 --> 00:35:10,669 You like that? 733 00:35:10,745 --> 00:35:12,358 Mm-hmm. 734 00:35:12,433 --> 00:35:14,496 Woman: Hi, guys! 735 00:35:14,571 --> 00:35:16,372 Come on in! 736 00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,398 Wilson: Another case of anti-gay discrimination 737 00:35:18,473 --> 00:35:21,623 had taken place several years earlier in Titusville, 738 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,850 a town just up the road from Oil City. 739 00:35:24,927 --> 00:35:27,626 It involved a student named Tim Dahle. 740 00:35:27,703 --> 00:35:29,727 I thought he and his family might be able 741 00:35:29,803 --> 00:35:31,565 to help Kathy and C.J. figure out 742 00:35:31,642 --> 00:35:34,529 how to get their school district to take them more seriously. 743 00:35:34,605 --> 00:35:35,917 Bills: The whole thing started 744 00:35:35,994 --> 00:35:37,831 from me standing up for one kid. 745 00:35:37,906 --> 00:35:39,144 And no one ever, 746 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,508 ever once said a word to anybody. 747 00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:43,346 They just stood there, my best friends, 748 00:35:43,422 --> 00:35:44,658 people that I've known 749 00:35:44,735 --> 00:35:46,609 since I was this big. 750 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,598 They just rolled their eyes. 751 00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:49,873 Man: You call them your friends, 752 00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:51,037 you trust them, and then 753 00:35:51,112 --> 00:35:52,463 all of a sudden, they turn on you. 754 00:35:52,538 --> 00:35:54,638 I've been there. 755 00:35:54,715 --> 00:35:57,490 What really irritates me is the fact 756 00:35:57,566 --> 00:36:00,153 that I used to go out of my way 757 00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:05,293 to actually cause bodily harm to gay people. 758 00:36:05,369 --> 00:36:09,533 Okay, we used to use it like a sport, you know? 759 00:36:09,608 --> 00:36:11,596 I mean, it was stupid. 760 00:36:11,671 --> 00:36:13,434 And then when you came out of the closet 761 00:36:13,509 --> 00:36:15,835 and told me that you were gay, I thought, 762 00:36:15,911 --> 00:36:17,748 "oh, no, no, no. You can't be." 763 00:36:17,825 --> 00:36:19,436 And I got to thinking, 764 00:36:19,512 --> 00:36:21,725 that gay kid's yours. 765 00:36:21,801 --> 00:36:23,713 You going to disown him 766 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:26,789 because of his sexual orientation? 767 00:36:26,866 --> 00:36:29,866 Or are you going to love him for who he is inside? 768 00:36:29,942 --> 00:36:31,554 And I thought, "the hell with it. 769 00:36:31,630 --> 00:36:33,655 I'm going to love him for who he is inside." 770 00:36:33,731 --> 00:36:37,782 All right, and I tell you what, you try to shed 40 years 771 00:36:37,858 --> 00:36:40,671 Of hatred overnight. 772 00:36:40,747 --> 00:36:42,134 It's just not done. 773 00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:45,661 It's something you got to learn how to live with, 774 00:36:45,736 --> 00:36:48,474 deal with, and you got to be sincere. 775 00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:49,787 I mean, he's my kid. 776 00:36:49,864 --> 00:36:52,226 I'm not going to turn my back on him. 777 00:36:52,302 --> 00:36:56,277 I won't -- I won't never turn my back on him. 778 00:36:56,353 --> 00:36:59,128 I -- I gotta eat. See you guys. 779 00:36:59,205 --> 00:37:01,230 Wilson: All right. Thanks, Ron. 780 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:04,268 Woman: I can't believe you got him on camera. 781 00:37:04,344 --> 00:37:05,656 Shock of all shocks! 782 00:37:05,733 --> 00:37:09,858 I never thought that would happen. 783 00:37:09,935 --> 00:37:11,321 Wilson: It seemed like Kathy 784 00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:12,973 really perked up when Diane told her 785 00:37:13,048 --> 00:37:15,598 that their lawsuit had forced the school district 786 00:37:15,674 --> 00:37:17,249 to implement diversity training 787 00:37:17,325 --> 00:37:19,162 that included sexual orientation. 788 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,776 Diane: We were the first people 789 00:37:20,852 --> 00:37:22,163 in all these years 790 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,714 to stand up to our school system. 791 00:37:24,791 --> 00:37:27,641 And it was because what they were doing was wrong. 792 00:37:27,718 --> 00:37:28,916 Yeah. 793 00:37:28,993 --> 00:37:30,530 Springer: It breaks my heart. 794 00:37:30,606 --> 00:37:33,381 I mean, I could just cry. 795 00:37:33,457 --> 00:37:36,195 And that there are other kids out there 796 00:37:36,271 --> 00:37:38,745 going through similar situations -- 797 00:37:38,822 --> 00:37:40,884 None of this should ever happen. 798 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,035 I don't know that I'll change the world, 799 00:37:44,112 --> 00:37:47,863 but if I can even just educate a few people, like, 800 00:37:47,938 --> 00:37:52,439 look, they weren't put on this earth to be tortured like this. 801 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,205 We're getting ready for the grand opening. 802 00:38:00,281 --> 00:38:01,855 And all of a sudden, 803 00:38:01,932 --> 00:38:05,945 Diane Gramley sent out a letter 804 00:38:06,021 --> 00:38:10,822 warning everyone about how dangerous we are and -- 805 00:38:10,899 --> 00:38:13,223 we have this homosexual agenda. 806 00:38:13,299 --> 00:38:16,112 And her brother goes to work with a guy 807 00:38:16,188 --> 00:38:19,038 whose minister stood right in the pulpit 808 00:38:19,114 --> 00:38:21,514 and said to boycott the Latonia. 809 00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:23,765 What? 810 00:38:23,841 --> 00:38:25,191 Where is that coming from? 811 00:38:25,267 --> 00:38:26,428 Diane Gramley. 812 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:27,854 She's started an all-in, all-out 813 00:38:27,931 --> 00:38:30,180 campaign against us. 814 00:38:30,257 --> 00:38:31,869 And she's saying to people, 815 00:38:31,945 --> 00:38:33,632 "don't do business with the Latonia"? 816 00:38:33,709 --> 00:38:34,833 Yes. 817 00:38:34,908 --> 00:38:36,633 Because it's run by a lesbian couple. 818 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:39,934 Yes -- we just wanted to have a business. 819 00:38:40,011 --> 00:38:43,198 If all the city wants is churches, 820 00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:44,850 then what do they need 821 00:38:44,925 --> 00:38:46,875 an Art Deco theater for? 822 00:38:51,453 --> 00:38:53,516 Wilson: As we were dealing with anti-gay attitudes 823 00:38:53,592 --> 00:38:54,866 right there in the community, 824 00:38:54,942 --> 00:38:56,592 the state of Pennsylvania 825 00:38:56,668 --> 00:39:00,193 was considering expanding its anti-discrimination law 826 00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:02,820 to include sexual orientation. 827 00:39:02,896 --> 00:39:04,733 Kathy was invited to tell her story 828 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:07,622 about discrimination at C.J.'s school at a public hearing. 829 00:39:07,698 --> 00:39:09,873 I'm not a public speaker. 830 00:39:09,949 --> 00:39:13,362 But -- and I don't know what I'd say. 831 00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:18,352 I just, I need to hear how it's going and -- 832 00:39:18,428 --> 00:39:20,190 Wilson: I've printed out a copy of the law, 833 00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:21,916 so we can look at it. Okay, good, good. 834 00:39:21,992 --> 00:39:23,642 Yeah, that would be good. 835 00:39:23,717 --> 00:39:25,630 Where you see the underline, 836 00:39:25,706 --> 00:39:28,181 it's trying to add "sexual orientation, 837 00:39:28,257 --> 00:39:31,032 Gender identity, or expression." 838 00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:33,020 You know, I don't understand 839 00:39:33,097 --> 00:39:37,822 where they even get off not including 840 00:39:37,899 --> 00:39:40,036 gay and lesbian. 841 00:39:40,113 --> 00:39:41,874 You know, let's get, you know, 842 00:39:41,951 --> 00:39:44,313 our heads out of our asses here. 843 00:39:48,516 --> 00:39:50,615 Gramley: On June 13th, A homosexual special rights 844 00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:52,341 Bill was introduced in Harrisburg. 845 00:39:52,418 --> 00:39:55,530 This is Diane Gramley with the American Family Assocition 846 00:39:55,606 --> 00:39:57,593 of Pennsylvania, with a call to action. 847 00:39:57,670 --> 00:40:00,032 Advocates for the passage of these bills 848 00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:02,095 deny they are special rights bills, 849 00:40:02,171 --> 00:40:04,985 But in what other situation is a law specifically written 850 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:06,897 to include a group of people 851 00:40:06,974 --> 00:40:09,899 simply because of the sexual activity in which they engage? 852 00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:12,975 They have never been required to sit in the back of the bus 853 00:40:13,052 --> 00:40:15,639 or drink from designated water fountains. 854 00:40:15,716 --> 00:40:18,415 They've never been considered less than human, 855 00:40:18,492 --> 00:40:20,253 as African Americans once were. 856 00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:21,829 Homosexual activists are trying 857 00:40:21,905 --> 00:40:23,705 to hijack the civil rights movement 858 00:40:23,781 --> 00:40:25,056 by pulling the victim card 859 00:40:25,132 --> 00:40:26,969 and trying to seek the normalization 860 00:40:27,045 --> 00:40:28,694 of their destructive lifestyle. 861 00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:31,245 Wilson: People like Diane 862 00:40:31,322 --> 00:40:33,872 are using misinformation 863 00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:36,686 to stir up irrational fears, to kind of 864 00:40:36,761 --> 00:40:39,162 push people back into the closet. 865 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:40,888 It's not going to happen. 866 00:40:40,963 --> 00:40:42,388 But when they stir up that fear, 867 00:40:42,464 --> 00:40:43,701 that's what creates the problems. 868 00:40:43,777 --> 00:40:45,352 That's what puts people like C.J. at risk. 869 00:40:45,428 --> 00:40:46,515 At risk. Okay. 870 00:40:46,591 --> 00:40:47,753 Because those messages 871 00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:49,516 go out there and say, "Oh, those are 872 00:40:49,593 --> 00:40:51,204 the people we're supposed to hate." 873 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,817 You know, can you imagine, I mean, 874 00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:56,044 just seeing somebody at a party and saying, 875 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,770 "Oh, that's the faggot. 876 00:40:57,845 --> 00:41:00,884 "Let's go, you know, punch him, literally 877 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,084 knock him out --" 878 00:41:02,161 --> 00:41:03,923 Can I imagine that? Oh, yeah. 879 00:41:03,998 --> 00:41:06,248 I-I can imagine that. 880 00:41:06,324 --> 00:41:11,650 I mean, I was that type of a person at one time. 881 00:41:11,727 --> 00:41:15,515 Now, that may be shocking to you. 882 00:41:15,591 --> 00:41:19,492 But in my journey in life, I'm no longer like that, 883 00:41:19,568 --> 00:41:21,293 And a big part of that 884 00:41:21,368 --> 00:41:24,256 Is my Christianity, my faith in Christ. 885 00:41:24,332 --> 00:41:27,632 You know, I truly believe that Jesus Christ 886 00:41:27,709 --> 00:41:32,322 has changed my character, so that I don't do that, 887 00:41:32,398 --> 00:41:34,123 nor do I want to do those things anymore. 888 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,149 I mean, those are wrong. It's wrong to do that. 889 00:41:36,225 --> 00:41:37,649 It's wrong to violate... 890 00:41:37,726 --> 00:41:40,239 You know, anybody. 891 00:41:40,314 --> 00:41:42,677 I became a different person. 892 00:41:42,753 --> 00:41:45,303 Do you think there will come a time, though, when we 893 00:41:45,379 --> 00:41:48,567 don't disagree about 894 00:41:48,643 --> 00:41:50,330 the place that gay, lesbian, 895 00:41:50,406 --> 00:41:53,181 bisexual, and trans people have in the world? 896 00:41:53,258 --> 00:41:57,495 Maybe aspects of it. I don't know. 897 00:41:57,572 --> 00:41:58,959 I don't know. 898 00:41:59,035 --> 00:42:00,835 You know... 899 00:42:00,911 --> 00:42:04,474 I'd have to... 900 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:06,838 That would be a big -- that would be 901 00:42:06,913 --> 00:42:08,901 a big change for me, you know? 902 00:42:08,977 --> 00:42:12,202 Wilson: My interactions with Pastor Micklos 903 00:42:12,278 --> 00:42:14,340 Were odd. 904 00:42:14,417 --> 00:42:16,028 Ever since the wedding announcement, 905 00:42:16,105 --> 00:42:18,130 I felt like I had been battling 906 00:42:18,206 --> 00:42:20,117 against people who use religion 907 00:42:20,194 --> 00:42:23,232 to deny gay people basic rights of visibility. 908 00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:27,283 Pastor Micklos was open to looking at things 909 00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,121 in a different way. 910 00:42:29,198 --> 00:42:31,073 I'd never thought I'd become friends 911 00:42:31,149 --> 00:42:33,437 with someone who didn't view me as his equal. 912 00:42:33,512 --> 00:42:37,600 But his willingness to examine his own beliefs 913 00:42:37,677 --> 00:42:40,302 was helping me to see that not all religious people 914 00:42:40,377 --> 00:42:42,627 fell into the box that I often put them in. 915 00:42:42,704 --> 00:42:44,653 Good afternoon, joe, how are you doing? 916 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,342 Wilson: Hi, Diane, how are you? 917 00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:49,043 I wanted to introduce you to Kathy Springer and C.J. 918 00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:50,918 Oh, okay, good, nice to meet you. 919 00:42:50,995 --> 00:42:52,832 Thank you, it's nice to meet you. 920 00:42:52,908 --> 00:42:56,921 Wilson: C.J. Is the young boy who was in Franklin high school 921 00:42:56,998 --> 00:43:00,410 and was experiencing harassment and discrimination. 922 00:43:00,487 --> 00:43:02,136 Okay, the one that was on your video? 923 00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:03,937 Wilson: Yeah. What do you think of that? 924 00:43:04,013 --> 00:43:06,150 Well, I need to get in here to the meeting, excuse me. 925 00:43:10,728 --> 00:43:11,816 Woman: Diane Gramley 926 00:43:11,891 --> 00:43:14,854 From the American Family Association 927 00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:17,218 of Pennsylvania. 928 00:43:17,294 --> 00:43:18,493 Gramley: Civil rights protections 929 00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:19,619 have long been fought for 930 00:43:19,695 --> 00:43:21,907 by disenfranchised groups of people. 931 00:43:21,983 --> 00:43:26,560 African Americans led the fight for civil rights, 932 00:43:26,636 --> 00:43:28,772 seeking the right to vote and to no longer 933 00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:31,286 be required to sit at the back of the bus. 934 00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:33,650 But a person's skin color or national origin 935 00:43:33,726 --> 00:43:35,113 is unchangeable. 936 00:43:35,189 --> 00:43:39,165 Wilson: Again, Gramley was trying to use race 937 00:43:39,241 --> 00:43:41,491 as a wedge to divide. 938 00:43:41,566 --> 00:43:43,779 But this time, she was dealing with legislators 939 00:43:43,856 --> 00:43:45,842 who were experienced in civil rights law. 940 00:43:45,919 --> 00:43:49,294 I was hoping they'd be more open to Kathy's testimony. 941 00:43:49,371 --> 00:43:51,020 Springer: I'm sorry, I'm already nervous. 942 00:43:51,097 --> 00:43:53,647 I'm not a public speaker. 943 00:43:53,722 --> 00:43:56,347 At this time I'd like to tell you 944 00:43:56,424 --> 00:43:58,261 about my son, C.J. Bills. 945 00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:00,586 At the time, he was 15 years old 946 00:44:00,663 --> 00:44:03,513 and attended a public school in Venango county. 947 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:07,339 There was an incident on a school bus one day. 948 00:44:07,416 --> 00:44:09,403 He was on a field trip. 949 00:44:09,479 --> 00:44:11,204 There were teachers monitoring 950 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,230 this whole trip. 951 00:44:13,306 --> 00:44:14,843 Kids were throwing things 952 00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:17,131 at him, calling him "faggot," 953 00:44:17,208 --> 00:44:20,132 "queer," "gay," asking if he wanted 954 00:44:20,209 --> 00:44:22,683 to perform sex acts on them. 955 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,385 The teachers just turned their heads 956 00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:27,448 and acted like it never happened. 957 00:44:27,525 --> 00:44:29,736 We've had our house 958 00:44:29,813 --> 00:44:32,326 threatened to be burned down. 959 00:44:32,401 --> 00:44:35,515 We've gotten phone calls by these boys, saying, 960 00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:37,990 "we want to see what color a faggot bleeds." 961 00:44:38,067 --> 00:44:42,043 He was vulnerable, he was scared, 962 00:44:42,118 --> 00:44:43,843 he didn't want to go to school. 963 00:44:43,919 --> 00:44:46,994 His grades were dropping. 964 00:44:47,071 --> 00:44:49,245 He was suicidal. 965 00:44:51,234 --> 00:44:55,361 I, um, I just have one more thing 966 00:44:55,436 --> 00:44:59,412 to say -- I hope it never comes to your family, 967 00:44:59,488 --> 00:45:02,038 where one of your children are tortured 968 00:45:02,115 --> 00:45:03,576 for being who they are. 969 00:45:03,653 --> 00:45:07,253 Thank you. 970 00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:12,843 Sometimes black people have a problem 971 00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:15,432 with people who are different 972 00:45:15,508 --> 00:45:20,083 comparing their experiences 973 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,897 with the black experience. 974 00:45:22,974 --> 00:45:25,261 Because of your experience, 975 00:45:25,337 --> 00:45:27,849 you're going to be able to help other young people 976 00:45:27,926 --> 00:45:32,089 so that maybe tomorrow this doesn't happen. 977 00:45:32,165 --> 00:45:33,364 God bless you for it. 978 00:45:33,441 --> 00:45:36,553 Be who you are, no matter what. 979 00:45:36,629 --> 00:45:37,791 Thank you very much. 980 00:45:37,867 --> 00:45:41,806 Springer: Thank you. 981 00:45:46,083 --> 00:45:47,958 Wilson: Diane and group, we actually wanted 982 00:45:48,035 --> 00:45:49,609 to ask you how you respond 983 00:45:49,685 --> 00:45:52,648 to the very personal testimonies of C.J. And Kathy. 984 00:45:52,724 --> 00:45:55,086 Like I said at the beginning of my testimony, 985 00:45:55,162 --> 00:45:56,962 I thought it was awful information. 986 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,701 And the Franklin school district should not have done to him 987 00:45:59,777 --> 00:46:00,901 what they permitted to do. 988 00:46:00,977 --> 00:46:02,102 So will you join us 989 00:46:02,178 --> 00:46:03,828 in fighting discrimination -- No -- 990 00:46:03,904 --> 00:46:05,928 Against gay and lesbian people in Franklin? 991 00:46:06,004 --> 00:46:07,204 Not, we're not going to -- 992 00:46:07,281 --> 00:46:08,667 We're not going to join you. 993 00:46:08,743 --> 00:46:09,980 Why not? No. 994 00:46:10,057 --> 00:46:15,046 Because of the roads that that will open. 995 00:46:15,121 --> 00:46:18,872 Wilson: Kathy's testimony may not have influenced Gramley, 996 00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:21,498 but it did have an impact on the legislators. 997 00:46:21,574 --> 00:46:23,786 After the hearing, 998 00:46:23,863 --> 00:46:27,351 one of the staff offered to help Kathy and C.J. Contact the ACLU 999 00:46:27,427 --> 00:46:30,351 to press a legal case against their school district. 1000 00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:33,466 Springer: Prior to this, I figured, the ACLU -- 1001 00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:34,704 What the heck? 1002 00:46:34,779 --> 00:46:36,542 All they can do is tell me no, you know. 1003 00:46:36,618 --> 00:46:39,392 Well, the next thing I know, 1004 00:46:39,469 --> 00:46:41,794 I got a return phone call. 1005 00:46:41,871 --> 00:46:44,082 And we had a great lawyer 1006 00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:48,584 From the ACLU. 1007 00:46:53,313 --> 00:46:55,488 Wilson: What do you think about the Latonia? 1008 00:46:55,564 --> 00:46:57,851 Boy: I'm glad that Roxanne got it, 1009 00:46:57,928 --> 00:46:59,877 because there was a guy that wanted to scrap 1010 00:46:59,953 --> 00:47:01,528 the whole place out piece by piece. 1011 00:47:01,604 --> 00:47:05,466 And look at that -- that picture 1012 00:47:05,543 --> 00:47:07,680 of that chandelier. 1013 00:47:07,757 --> 00:47:11,245 It's just, like, scary! 1014 00:47:11,321 --> 00:47:13,496 It could fall any second! 1015 00:47:13,572 --> 00:47:16,384 And plus, it's great! 1016 00:47:22,538 --> 00:47:25,613 Wilson: Just two days before the grand opening, 1017 00:47:25,689 --> 00:47:28,052 Roxanne and linda got a call from a neighboring 1018 00:47:28,128 --> 00:47:30,903 businessman about their "homosexual agenda" 1019 00:47:30,979 --> 00:47:32,253 at the Latonia. 1020 00:47:32,330 --> 00:47:33,754 What happened on that phone call you got? 1021 00:47:33,831 --> 00:47:35,180 Hitchcock: I said, 1022 00:47:35,255 --> 00:47:37,393 "if you want to listen to people like Diane Gramley," 1023 00:47:37,469 --> 00:47:38,894 I said, "you're welcome to, but," I said, 1024 00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:40,132 "you know what? 1025 00:47:40,208 --> 00:47:41,370 "we're trying to do something 1026 00:47:41,446 --> 00:47:43,246 Wonderful for the community here." 1027 00:47:43,322 --> 00:47:45,610 And I said, "I want to know what Diane Gramley 1028 00:47:45,685 --> 00:47:47,485 Has done to promote the community." 1029 00:47:47,562 --> 00:47:48,686 Yeah. 1030 00:47:48,761 --> 00:47:50,036 "besides her witch hunts." 1031 00:47:50,113 --> 00:47:51,724 Yeah! I said, "she's always 1032 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,975 on a witch hunt about something." 1033 00:47:54,051 --> 00:47:55,214 Did you say that? 1034 00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:57,465 Yes, I did. 1035 00:47:57,540 --> 00:48:02,079 Henderson: The negative messages sting so bad 1036 00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:04,030 that it takes, probably, 1037 00:48:04,105 --> 00:48:06,656 100 positive to keep you on track -- 1038 00:48:06,732 --> 00:48:10,783 when it's that hateful. 1039 00:48:12,584 --> 00:48:14,947 Wilson: After Kathy and C.J.'s case 1040 00:48:15,023 --> 00:48:17,573 about discrimination at the high school 1041 00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:19,787 got attention in the community, 1042 00:48:19,862 --> 00:48:21,399 the local college brought in 1043 00:48:21,476 --> 00:48:24,101 a gay Christian performing arts group from Pittsburgh 1044 00:48:24,178 --> 00:48:26,689 to help people see things from a youth perspective. 1045 00:48:26,766 --> 00:48:29,316 Somehow, I managed to get 1046 00:48:29,392 --> 00:48:32,055 C.J. And Pastor Micklos to attend. 1047 00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:33,630 ♫ my soul ♫ 1048 00:48:36,332 --> 00:48:37,644 Woman: I hope that our performance 1049 00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:40,833 puts a face to gay christians 1050 00:48:40,909 --> 00:48:42,485 and puts a face 1051 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,947 to gay people. 1052 00:48:44,024 --> 00:48:45,823 There's a lot of people that don't know things 1053 00:48:45,899 --> 00:48:48,411 about gay people, and they have the stereotypical 1054 00:48:48,487 --> 00:48:50,850 assumptions of gay people. 1055 00:48:50,926 --> 00:48:53,739 What you just said about stereotypes, 1056 00:48:53,815 --> 00:48:56,515 is that reversed at times, as well? 1057 00:48:56,591 --> 00:48:59,179 As far as gay people having 1058 00:48:59,254 --> 00:49:02,780 stereotypes about straight people? 1059 00:49:02,857 --> 00:49:04,243 Um... 1060 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,982 Man: Yeah. I do it. 1061 00:49:07,059 --> 00:49:08,520 I stereotype straight people 1062 00:49:08,597 --> 00:49:11,071 as dressing badly and -- 1063 00:49:16,325 --> 00:49:19,550 Thanks for coming 1064 00:49:19,627 --> 00:49:21,763 How did you guys meet? 1065 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,564 We wrote a letter to the editor, 1066 00:49:23,641 --> 00:49:26,228 and they... captured us. 1067 00:49:26,304 --> 00:49:29,116 And we became friends. 1068 00:49:29,193 --> 00:49:30,617 Awesome. 1069 00:49:30,694 --> 00:49:32,531 But I'm sorry that part of the reason 1070 00:49:32,606 --> 00:49:34,556 you're not in school is because violence 1071 00:49:34,633 --> 00:49:35,945 was perpetrated against you. 1072 00:49:36,021 --> 00:49:39,846 Not good under any circumstances. 1073 00:49:39,923 --> 00:49:41,535 Bills: How did he come around 1074 00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:43,147 like that? 1075 00:49:43,224 --> 00:49:44,949 Wilson: I guess that he's been 1076 00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:47,012 thinking about it for a little bit. 1077 00:49:47,088 --> 00:49:48,550 Wow. 1078 00:49:48,626 --> 00:49:52,564 At times, we all get stereotyped, don't we? 1079 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,328 Huh? 1080 00:49:54,403 --> 00:49:59,241 Sometimes we're not so bad as our first impressions are. 1081 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:05,620 Woman: You know there are people 1082 00:50:05,696 --> 00:50:08,359 who don't care what this guy's spreading. 1083 00:50:08,435 --> 00:50:11,697 And even if they listen, they have seen you at work, 1084 00:50:11,774 --> 00:50:14,511 And they have seen everything you've done. 1085 00:50:14,588 --> 00:50:16,612 I know, but we got a double whammy against us. 1086 00:50:16,688 --> 00:50:18,225 You know that. 1087 00:50:18,302 --> 00:50:19,463 I know you do, 1088 00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:21,340 But you have to not let this 1089 00:50:21,415 --> 00:50:24,416 take away from what you've worked so hard for. 1090 00:50:24,491 --> 00:50:26,216 Please put on your face and say, 1091 00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:29,593 "you're not going to do this to us." 1092 00:50:29,669 --> 00:50:31,994 And make this just be as wonderful 1093 00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:33,720 an event as it can be, 1094 00:50:33,795 --> 00:50:35,033 and is going to be. 1095 00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:36,159 What are we going to say? 1096 00:50:36,234 --> 00:50:37,884 Latonia! 1097 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,247 All: Latonia! 1098 00:50:40,324 --> 00:50:41,711 See? That's what we needed. 1099 00:50:41,787 --> 00:50:44,187 Man: I told joe that you and Roxanne 1100 00:50:44,263 --> 00:50:47,676 have been working sometimes 18-hour days getting this done. 1101 00:50:47,752 --> 00:50:50,190 I can't imagine, because there's many weeks 1102 00:50:50,265 --> 00:50:51,765 that I don't work 18 hours. 1103 00:50:53,117 --> 00:50:56,755 But it hasn't been us by ourselves. 1104 00:50:56,831 --> 00:50:58,781 We've had a lot of people helping, 1105 00:50:58,856 --> 00:51:01,557 and if you're looking now, there's an army up there, 1106 00:51:01,632 --> 00:51:03,433 helping us get the room ready. 1107 00:51:03,509 --> 00:51:06,697 For KQW 96.3 at the Latonia, 1108 00:51:06,773 --> 00:51:08,122 I'm Sam Gordon. 1109 00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:13,750 Gordon: Why are you doing it? 1110 00:51:13,826 --> 00:51:15,813 Woman: Because I love Rox and Linda 1111 00:51:15,889 --> 00:51:16,976 so much. 1112 00:51:17,052 --> 00:51:20,390 That's the only reason why! 1113 00:51:20,467 --> 00:51:23,016 Joy! 1114 00:51:23,092 --> 00:51:24,704 I'm probably going to cry. 1115 00:51:24,781 --> 00:51:29,431 It's -- I -- people are coming through 1116 00:51:29,508 --> 00:51:30,745 to let us know. 1117 00:51:30,821 --> 00:51:32,846 ♫ oh, oh, oh, and I'm ♫ 1118 00:51:32,921 --> 00:51:34,233 ♫ wrong, yeah ♫ 1119 00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:37,535 ♫ but I'm still the toughest one ♫ 1120 00:51:37,611 --> 00:51:38,886 Littler: Listen to this. 1121 00:51:38,961 --> 00:51:42,036 "The Latonia's very bold 1122 00:51:42,113 --> 00:51:44,363 "and features one of the biggest 1123 00:51:44,439 --> 00:51:46,839 chandeliers in the United States!" 1124 00:51:46,915 --> 00:51:51,979 That baby is what I call something! 1125 00:51:52,055 --> 00:51:55,468 Wilson: Roxanne and Linda could count on the support 1126 00:51:55,543 --> 00:51:57,043 of their close friends. 1127 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,107 But the challenge in small towns 1128 00:51:59,183 --> 00:52:01,808 like Oil City is getting regular people 1129 00:52:01,884 --> 00:52:04,622 to show their support when it could really make a difference. 1130 00:52:04,698 --> 00:52:07,173 It remained to be seen whether the community at large 1131 00:52:07,249 --> 00:52:12,425 would show up for the Latonia's grand opening. 1132 00:52:15,353 --> 00:52:16,777 Okay. 1133 00:52:16,854 --> 00:52:18,090 Wilson: Clutch all the way to the floor, 1134 00:52:18,166 --> 00:52:19,441 left foot. That one? 1135 00:52:19,517 --> 00:52:21,242 Yeah, but with your left foot. 1136 00:52:21,317 --> 00:52:23,718 And don't let it up. 1137 00:52:23,793 --> 00:52:26,043 Or you'll go right through that garage door. 1138 00:52:27,696 --> 00:52:29,570 Now keep it down and put it in reverse, 1139 00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:30,883 which is way, way, way back. 1140 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,046 That way? 1141 00:52:32,122 --> 00:52:33,547 Over, yeah. 1142 00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:37,298 Oh, this is a whole new experience of the world here. 1143 00:52:37,374 --> 00:52:40,262 ♫ hey, hey ♫ 1144 00:52:40,338 --> 00:52:42,813 I'm not used to change. 1145 00:52:42,889 --> 00:52:45,064 ♫ remember when we used to play ♫ 1146 00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:50,730 ♫ out in your backyard almost every day? ♫ 1147 00:52:50,805 --> 00:52:52,868 This is awesome! 1148 00:52:52,943 --> 00:52:55,981 And he trusts me. 1149 00:52:56,058 --> 00:52:57,670 That's sweet! 1150 00:53:00,072 --> 00:53:03,860 ♫ hey, hey ♫ 1151 00:53:03,936 --> 00:53:05,398 ♫ remember when we used to ♫ 1152 00:53:05,474 --> 00:53:06,748 Wilson: After two years, 1153 00:53:06,825 --> 00:53:09,975 Kathy and C.J., with the help of the ACLU, 1154 00:53:10,052 --> 00:53:13,089 finally reached a settlement with the school district 1155 00:53:13,165 --> 00:53:14,477 that included a promise 1156 00:53:14,554 --> 00:53:18,867 of comprehensive anti-discrimination training. 1157 00:53:18,942 --> 00:53:21,267 C.J. And I drove over to the high school 1158 00:53:21,344 --> 00:53:23,369 To meet Kathy and the ACLU lawyer. 1159 00:53:23,444 --> 00:53:24,719 They were observing the training 1160 00:53:24,796 --> 00:53:25,994 to make sure it included 1161 00:53:26,071 --> 00:53:28,283 sexual orientation. 1162 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,472 We had to drive my car, because C.J.'s 1163 00:53:31,548 --> 00:53:34,624 $150 special had already been scrapped. 1164 00:53:34,699 --> 00:53:37,512 And when you stop, clutch in, if you're in gear. 1165 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:39,200 Clutch down, all the way to the floor. 1166 00:53:39,276 --> 00:53:40,325 All right. 1167 00:53:40,402 --> 00:53:41,751 Clutch, man! 1168 00:53:41,827 --> 00:53:44,790 Every time you stop, you gotta use the clutch. 1169 00:53:50,043 --> 00:53:52,481 So, how'd everything go? 1170 00:53:52,557 --> 00:53:54,582 I wish they would have had 1171 00:53:54,659 --> 00:53:58,408 this in-service training program two years ago. 1172 00:53:58,485 --> 00:54:00,847 Maybe we could have avoided 1173 00:54:00,924 --> 00:54:02,761 all of these problems. 1174 00:54:02,836 --> 00:54:04,448 I thought it was very good. 1175 00:54:04,525 --> 00:54:06,662 I was very pleased. I was very pleased. 1176 00:54:06,739 --> 00:54:09,251 My hands are going to freeze off. 1177 00:54:09,327 --> 00:54:12,290 Let's go to the restaurant. 1178 00:54:14,054 --> 00:54:15,441 Okay, dude, let me hear your comments. 1179 00:54:15,517 --> 00:54:17,167 What do you think about that? That's awesome. 1180 00:54:17,243 --> 00:54:19,868 I want to find out if he has, like, 1181 00:54:19,944 --> 00:54:21,443 more programs set up, 1182 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,158 like, same thing as this, or different ones, or... 1183 00:54:25,233 --> 00:54:26,884 Springer: It's taken us two years, 1184 00:54:26,959 --> 00:54:28,835 but it's a step that I never thought 1185 00:54:28,910 --> 00:54:30,635 would happen. 1186 00:54:30,711 --> 00:54:32,024 Wilson: And quite a journey 1187 00:54:32,099 --> 00:54:34,162 for you, I'll say. 1188 00:54:34,237 --> 00:54:38,364 Yeah, I'm just a little old back-hills mom. 1189 00:54:38,439 --> 00:54:40,239 Yeah. 1190 00:54:40,316 --> 00:54:42,227 I -- I -- 1191 00:54:42,304 --> 00:54:46,767 I'll keep being that voice. 1192 00:54:46,844 --> 00:54:50,519 Even if my son moves away from this area, 1193 00:54:50,595 --> 00:54:53,596 which he'd like very much to do, 1194 00:54:53,671 --> 00:54:55,583 I'm not going anywhere. 1195 00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:57,685 I'm still going to be here, 1196 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,986 still going to stand up against the bigots 1197 00:55:01,062 --> 00:55:06,613 until they wake up and... 1198 00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:09,502 see the world for what it is. 1199 00:55:30,550 --> 00:55:32,537 Welcome to the Latonia. 1200 00:55:32,613 --> 00:55:35,651 Thank you. 1201 00:55:52,684 --> 00:55:54,184 Woman: The spirit of the building 1202 00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:55,684 is alive again, you know? 1203 00:55:55,761 --> 00:55:56,960 It just is. 1204 00:55:57,037 --> 00:55:59,211 I think this is just another piece 1205 00:55:59,288 --> 00:56:01,762 that's going to come alive and, and add 1206 00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:04,763 to all the other things that are happening here. 1207 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,526 Woman: Oh, I'm excited 1208 00:56:06,603 --> 00:56:08,140 about the vision and the energy 1209 00:56:08,216 --> 00:56:09,790 that people have here to bring this alive. 1210 00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,704 It's exciting. 1211 00:56:11,780 --> 00:56:13,805 The chandelier is gorgeous. Yeah. 1212 00:56:13,881 --> 00:56:16,843 I can't wait to see it lit up. 1213 00:56:20,372 --> 00:56:22,209 Henderson: Thank you all for coming 1214 00:56:22,284 --> 00:56:23,484 this evening.. 1215 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,435 This is a fantastic night. 1216 00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:31,850 When you start on a large project like this, 1217 00:56:31,927 --> 00:56:33,689 you need to celebrate 1218 00:56:33,765 --> 00:56:35,977 some mile markers. 1219 00:56:36,053 --> 00:56:37,215 But what's exciting 1220 00:56:37,291 --> 00:56:39,804 to me is watching what's happening 1221 00:56:39,879 --> 00:56:41,304 throughout Oil City. 1222 00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:45,432 It means a lot to me to see all these faces, 1223 00:56:45,507 --> 00:56:49,108 to see all these people who are behind this project. 1224 00:56:49,184 --> 00:56:52,597 And it hasn't always been easy. 1225 00:56:52,672 --> 00:56:55,523 and, uh, I think I'm going to 1226 00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,924 Have to turn it over to Rox right now. 1227 00:56:59,613 --> 00:57:01,563 My partner, Roxanne. 1228 00:57:07,304 --> 00:57:09,780 Okay, Roxy, are we ready? 1229 00:57:09,855 --> 00:57:11,580 Hitchcock: Okay. 1230 00:57:11,656 --> 00:57:13,794 All right, One... 1231 00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:16,270 Two...Three. 1232 00:57:34,203 --> 00:57:37,879 Henderson: We actually had imagined that moment from -- 1233 00:57:37,955 --> 00:57:39,343 For a long time. 1234 00:57:39,418 --> 00:57:41,255 Hitchcock: Just seeing the community's reaction to that 1235 00:57:41,332 --> 00:57:43,169 just made it all worthwhile. 1236 00:57:43,245 --> 00:57:46,658 That was cool! 1237 00:57:46,734 --> 00:57:49,321 Hitchcock: We love this old building. 1238 00:57:49,398 --> 00:57:50,710 We're fixing it up. 1239 00:57:50,785 --> 00:57:53,560 We want to turn it into something viable 1240 00:57:53,637 --> 00:57:56,937 and economically reasonable for Oil City, 1241 00:57:57,013 --> 00:57:58,813 but in the same token, we're giving something 1242 00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:00,164 back to the city. 1243 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,553 It's all about being able to be ourselves 1244 00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:08,379 without somebody questioning every 1245 00:58:08,456 --> 00:58:11,194 motive we might have. 1246 00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:13,257 Yeah, what they call an agenda, 1247 00:58:13,333 --> 00:58:14,419 we call our lives. 1248 00:58:14,496 --> 00:58:15,958 Right! Right! 1249 00:58:16,034 --> 00:58:19,297 ♫ Everything feels like enough ♫ 1250 00:58:19,373 --> 00:58:20,872 Man, on P.A.: We come against 1251 00:58:20,949 --> 00:58:23,948 The strongholds of sin in this city 1252 00:58:24,025 --> 00:58:25,488 In the name of Jesus, 1253 00:58:25,563 --> 00:58:28,001 And we tear those strongholds down 1254 00:58:28,077 --> 00:58:29,351 In the name of Jesus. 1255 00:58:29,427 --> 00:58:31,077 Father, I thank you that there is 1256 00:58:31,153 --> 00:58:33,928 An army of believers, 1257 00:58:34,005 --> 00:58:37,155 Ready to take this city for Jesus Christ. 1258 00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:40,644 ♫ I want to see Jesus lifted high ♫ 1259 00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:44,883 ♫ a banner that flies across this land ♫ 1260 00:58:44,959 --> 00:58:47,922 ♫ that all men will see the truth and know ♫ 1261 00:58:47,999 --> 00:58:51,260 ♫ he is the way... ♫ 1262 00:58:51,337 --> 00:58:53,511 Wilson: Diane? 1263 00:58:53,588 --> 00:58:55,388 Diane? 1264 00:58:58,541 --> 00:59:01,390 I just wanted to ask you one more thing, Diane. 1265 00:59:05,706 --> 00:59:09,231 Wilson: It had taken me a long time to get there, 1266 00:59:09,307 --> 00:59:12,795 but in that moment, as Diane was treating me 1267 00:59:12,872 --> 00:59:14,483 like I didn't exist, 1268 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:15,947 I finally started to see 1269 00:59:16,022 --> 00:59:18,535 that battling with her wasn't a useful way 1270 00:59:18,612 --> 00:59:21,236 to help make change in my small hometown. 1271 00:59:21,312 --> 00:59:25,701 Change was starting to happen, not through confrontation, 1272 00:59:25,777 --> 00:59:27,802 but because of people who decided 1273 00:59:27,877 --> 00:59:30,428 not to leave, like I did so many years ago. 1274 00:59:30,504 --> 00:59:33,430 People who had the courage to start living their lives 1275 00:59:33,505 --> 00:59:35,455 just a little more openly. 1276 00:59:35,531 --> 00:59:38,418 And because other people in the community 1277 00:59:38,495 --> 00:59:41,645 were willing to meet them halfway. 1278 00:59:41,722 --> 00:59:42,996 You know, there have been times 1279 00:59:43,072 --> 00:59:44,684 when I'm, like, "How can they think that?" 1280 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,184 You know? 1281 00:59:46,261 --> 00:59:49,148 Sure. And, um, you know, I'm in a different place 1282 00:59:49,225 --> 00:59:51,587 with that now -- I mean, I really respect 1283 00:59:51,663 --> 00:59:52,862 how you see the world 1284 00:59:52,938 --> 00:59:55,601 and how it's made you into the people 1285 00:59:55,677 --> 00:59:59,016 that, um, opened us up in the way you have, so... 1286 00:59:59,091 --> 01:00:02,579 you know, a lot of times, we're afraid of the unknown. 1287 01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:07,081 and you were the unknown quotient. 1288 01:00:07,157 --> 01:00:09,895 You could talk about the issues, 1289 01:00:09,971 --> 01:00:12,934 but the reality is that there are people behind there 1290 01:00:13,009 --> 01:00:14,697 that we need to be sensitive to 1291 01:00:14,774 --> 01:00:17,473 and try to look at their perspective 1292 01:00:17,550 --> 01:00:19,499 and where they're at, and, I mean, 1293 01:00:19,576 --> 01:00:21,863 the benefit of the whole thing, I think, 1294 01:00:21,939 --> 01:00:24,714 is that we, we have a friendship. 1295 01:00:24,791 --> 01:00:26,477 You know? 1296 01:00:26,554 --> 01:00:28,841 Hopefully, we're growing as human beings, 1297 01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:32,217 you know, through it all. 1298 01:00:32,293 --> 01:00:36,194 Bills: I'll get that. 1299 01:00:39,046 --> 01:00:41,146 Do you see my cold air intake? 1300 01:00:41,222 --> 01:00:42,647 Are you seeing them fuses? 1301 01:00:42,723 --> 01:00:43,885 Wilson: I can't say I'm much 1302 01:00:43,961 --> 01:00:48,011 of a car person, but it looks nice. 1303 01:00:48,087 --> 01:00:50,713 Bills: $4,388.68. 1304 01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:53,001 Oh, yeah, I remember every dime. 1305 01:00:53,077 --> 01:00:55,364 Where'd you get that kind of loot? 1306 01:00:55,441 --> 01:00:58,516 Off of that there, what do you call it, 1307 01:00:58,592 --> 01:01:00,730 ACLU thing. 1308 01:01:00,806 --> 01:01:02,756 Good, you made it. 1309 01:01:02,831 --> 01:01:04,744 Yeah, you know it! 1310 01:01:04,820 --> 01:01:05,869 Can we go for a ride? 1311 01:01:05,946 --> 01:01:06,995 If you want to. 1312 01:01:10,147 --> 01:01:13,147 You take it easy. 1313 01:01:13,224 --> 01:01:16,336 It's like it ain't gonna go... 1314 01:01:16,412 --> 01:01:17,537 ♫ today is fit for rent ♫ 1315 01:01:17,613 --> 01:01:20,125 ♫ I'm feelin' so unique ♫ 1316 01:01:20,201 --> 01:01:23,089 ♫ I'm feelin' really funky ♫ 1317 01:01:23,165 --> 01:01:24,665 ♫ I kind of like this breeze ♫ 1318 01:01:24,741 --> 01:01:26,016 ♫ couldn't speak ♫ 1319 01:01:26,092 --> 01:01:27,817 ♫ or dream ♫ 1320 01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:29,654 ♫ or am I aware ♫ 1321 01:01:29,730 --> 01:01:31,531 ♫ sometimes it's hard to tell ♫ 1322 01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:34,156 ♫ the difference I made that said ♫ 1323 01:01:34,232 --> 01:01:36,145 It rides like a cadillac. 1324 01:01:36,221 --> 01:01:38,508 ♫ smany lonely days ♫ 1325 01:01:38,585 --> 01:01:39,934 ♫ but today is ♫ 1326 01:01:40,011 --> 01:01:42,034 Bills: I went from being a jock, 1327 01:01:42,111 --> 01:01:44,211 an athlete, a basketball player, 1328 01:01:44,286 --> 01:01:45,637 baseball player. 1329 01:01:45,712 --> 01:01:48,975 Then it turned around to, I was a queer, 1330 01:01:49,052 --> 01:01:50,813 I was a faggot, I was no longer 1331 01:01:50,890 --> 01:01:53,215 the guy that dislocated your shoulder 1332 01:01:53,290 --> 01:01:55,879 in football practice -- I was just a sissy, 1333 01:01:55,955 --> 01:01:59,180 because of what I think looks hot. 1334 01:01:59,256 --> 01:02:01,055 And whatever I think looks good 1335 01:02:01,132 --> 01:02:03,682 just automatically makes me into a little fairy. 1336 01:02:03,758 --> 01:02:05,107 But it doesn't. 1337 01:02:05,184 --> 01:02:08,859 Because I'm still me, and I'll always 1338 01:02:08,935 --> 01:02:09,985 remain me. 1339 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,223 I'm not going to change. 1340 01:02:11,298 --> 01:02:12,498 ♫ set me free ♫ 1341 01:02:12,574 --> 01:02:14,674 ♫ set me ♫ ♫ set me free ♫ 1342 01:02:14,750 --> 01:02:17,038 ♫ set me free ♫ ♫ come on and set me free ♫ 1343 01:02:17,113 --> 01:02:19,814 ♫ I gotta set me free ♫ 1344 01:02:19,889 --> 01:02:21,165 ♫ set me free ♫ 1345 01:02:21,241 --> 01:02:22,327 ♫ set me ♫ 1346 01:02:22,404 --> 01:02:23,640 ♫ set me free ♫ 1347 01:02:23,717 --> 01:02:26,229 ♫ come on and set me free ♫ 1348 01:02:26,305 --> 01:02:28,405 ♫ I've gotta set me free ♫ 1349 01:02:28,481 --> 01:02:30,469 ♫ free, free, free, free ♫ 1350 01:02:30,545 --> 01:02:32,907 ♫ free, free, free, free ♫ 1351 01:02:32,983 --> 01:02:35,083 ♫ free, free, free, free ♫ 1352 01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:37,259 ♫ free, free, free ♫ 1353 01:02:37,335 --> 01:02:39,735 ♫ I finally know who I am ♫ 1354 01:02:39,811 --> 01:02:42,136 ♫ I finally made my own plan ♫ 1355 01:02:42,213 --> 01:02:44,612 ♫ I finally understand ♫ 1356 01:02:44,688 --> 01:02:52,940 ♫ I own my freedom in my hand ♫99931

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