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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,560 In the criminal justice system the people are represented 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,040 by two separate yet equally important groups - 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,080 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,240 and the crown prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,280 These are their stories. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,160 Those were his exact words. I thought, 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,720 what I am doing with someone who objectifies people down to numbers? 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Besides which I'm an 81⁄2 - ask anyone. Maybe an eight when I had the braid 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,360 but I won't make that mistake again. And he thinks he's a nine? I know. 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,320 With those chicken legs. From now on I'm just going to concentrate on me. 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Take some time to think about what I really want. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,480 Good for you. OK, ciao, bella. See you later, babes. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 All right, hungry people! Come and get it! 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Three dead and one serious head injury. 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Joanne Ellis, one of their customers. She's in a bad way. 16 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,320 Right, OK. 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,840 What's this, age before beauty? Something like that. 18 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,600 Joy? I take it you're here for the tour. 19 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Kelly Scott, one of the sales assistants. 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,960 Only started yesterday. 21 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,520 And this one's a customer. 22 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Driving licence IDs her as Linda Bowers. 23 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Works in a cake shop nearby. 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,000 That's the owner, Steven Marx, 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 been trading just under a year. 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Who found them then? The other sales assistant - Paul Dean. 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Came back after his lunch break. And got the fright of his life. Mm. 28 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,440 So, what is this - some sort of glorified charity shop? 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Vintage designer, apparently. Not your average tat. 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Blimey, I'll say. Look at that. 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,640 200 quid? I should flog some of my old threads. 32 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:13,200 You're looking for a masked man. May answer to the name of Zorro. 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,000 A sword? You've got some really deep stab wounds, 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,760 not to mention a lot of wild slashing and gashing. 35 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Shame the cameras are dummies. Must have been quite a show. 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,320 So, we're looking for a homicidal maniac wielding a sword in a public place. 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,320 What a nightmare. 38 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 I was gone to meet a friend. 39 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,120 I was only gone 30 minutes. 40 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,160 40 minutes max. 41 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Has your...has your boss been having any problems with anyone lately? 42 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Steven? No, don't think so. 43 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 We had this couple in this morning but... What couple? 44 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Italian. I thought they were tourists. 45 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,680 The bloke got me unchaining the leather jackets. 46 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Steven caught the girl putting stuff in her bag. 47 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Started shouting in Italian. Then what happened? 48 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Steven said he'd call the cops and they legged it. 49 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 OK. Have you got a description for us? 50 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Er...yeah...um... 51 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,640 She was a sort of young Nancy Dell'Olio. 52 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,920 He was a turned-down Mika. 53 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,800 I don't get it. Why would someone do this? 54 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,440 I don't know, son. I really don't. 55 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,040 The DI's called a press conference asking for anyone in the area to come forward. 56 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,120 That's handy. Just a few thousand tourists and shoppers 57 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,440 How come we've got no witnesses? Precisely. 58 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Whoever it was must have been covered in blood. 59 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,600 And they were carrying a bloody great sword. 60 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Matt, this city is full of people walking around with blinkers on. 61 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Covent Garden is full of people standing around in gold paint or fire-eating. 62 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,120 He might not have stood out that much. And he's still out there. 63 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Which is the scary part. Devlin. 64 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,440 Ang, you're a star. 65 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Gianni Patrone and Lia Rossi. 66 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Picked up outside Selfridges with six grand's worth of designer clothing. 67 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,680 And we're sure these are the same two? 68 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Your witness ID'd them. Apparently Ms Rossi's dress is one she stole earlier. 69 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,000 But I'm not getting homicidal maniac, that's for sure. Me neither. 70 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,560 But there's just a chance they saw something. 71 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Though up to now they've not been very co-operative. 72 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Let's get in there, give them some encouragement. Whatever it takes. 73 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Commissioner Callaghan wants hourly updates 74 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,120 and once the media frenzy starts our job'll get even harder 75 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,280 so anything you can get out of these two. Anything at all. 76 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,680 We'll talk to 'em. Do we need an interpreter? 77 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,720 I doubt it, they're from Enfield. 78 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,720 I'm telling you, I didn't see anything and I didn't hear anything. 79 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,760 But you admit you were in the shop. 80 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,880 And you threatened Steven Marx. Threatened him? Shut up. 81 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 And less than two hours later he was dead. 82 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,720 Maybe you went back there, you thought he'd identify you from the CCTV tapes. 83 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Tapes? What tapes? 84 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Are you new? The cameras aren't even real. 85 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Three people. Three people, Gianni, left lying in their own blood. 86 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,920 One girl's head was nearly severed from her body. I know, OK? 87 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,240 I told you, we had nothing to do with that. 88 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,840 If we'd been there half an hour later that could have been us. 89 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,880 You any idea what that feels like? 90 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,600 Must be terrifying. So I'm asking you again, where did you go after you left the shop? 91 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,440 I told you, I don't remember exactly. 92 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,600 You ended up in Oxford Street. Did you go straight there? 93 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,840 I'm not sure. I don't care if you turned over half the shops in Covent Garden, 94 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:26,880 I just want to know where you went. 95 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Lia, what about Gianni? 96 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Was he with you all the time? 97 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Gianni's the last person you should be harassing. Who would you suggest? 98 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 The crackhead in the alley for a start. 99 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,440 What crackhead in the alley? 100 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,280 A total nutter. 101 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:47,520 Kept banging his head against the wall. 102 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,720 So, what do we think? 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 About the convenient crackhead? 104 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,000 It's about the only bit of the story they agree on. 105 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Get on to all the drop-ins and shelters with a description. 106 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,080 If these two can't pick him out of WADS then get them to do an E-FIT. 107 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,520 And keep them apart, yeah? Strictly no conferring. 108 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Not exactly twins but they could be related. 109 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,080 They could also be half the homeless guys in London. Can Forensics narrow it down? 110 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Apparently not, guv, the prints were just a mass of smudges. 111 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,240 But they have come up with a profile of the weapon. 112 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 A single-edged blade, probably military. 113 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Comparisons were run. The closest comparison they do have 114 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,360 is a US-Army-issued bayonet circa 1950. 115 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Just a sec. 116 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Chandler. 117 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Oh, great. Thank you. 118 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Joanne Ellis has regained consciousness. 119 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Just give her some time. OK. 120 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,000 The blade ripped her scalp and dug a trench in her skull. 121 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Joanne, um...when the woman screamed where were you? 122 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,920 T-t-trying on a d-d-dress. 123 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Th-th...there-there was a woman on the floor. 124 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,200 A man hit me. 125 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,920 The man, did you see his face? 126 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,120 Joanne. Sorry, sweetheart, 127 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,840 I'm going to...going to show you a picture, OK? 128 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,840 If it looks like the man just let us know, OK? 129 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Yes. 130 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,480 All right? Anything? No, more of the same. 131 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,520 What's the word from uniform? 132 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Still going door to door. Nothing definite to report. 133 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Round here the homeless really are invisible. What do you reckon? 134 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,840 Keep on going, meet up in organic beauty? 135 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,520 If we must. 136 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,800 Are you going to buy that? 137 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,240 I wouldn't know whether to wear it or eat it. 138 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Um, can I help? 139 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,080 Yes, actually, you can. 140 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,320 We're looking for some information 141 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,760 regarding the fatal incident in Brewers Alley. 142 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,240 The papers said it was completely random, that he could strike again. Is that true? 143 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Well, we're advising everyone to be cautious, yeah. 144 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,800 I'm sorry, do you...would you happen to recognise this man? 145 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,240 You might have seen him wandering around the area yesterday. 146 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,360 No, not yesterday but the day before. 147 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,640 He was standing right outside the door. Just kept looking in. 148 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,560 I thought he might be watching one of my customers. Anyone in particular? 149 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:51,280 Um, a pretty girl. Blonde. She comes in quite a lot. 150 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Actually, she signed up for my mailing list. 151 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,440 I teach yoga a couple of nights a week. 152 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Yeah. Linda Bowers. 153 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Was she one of them? I'm afraid so, yeah. 154 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Oh, poor girl. 155 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,640 So, it wasn't random. 156 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Doesn't look like it. No, our mystery man was after Linda Bowers. 157 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Yeah, that's the guy. 158 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,680 The girl called us around 10ish. Said some weirdo had followed her home. 159 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,000 What, from Neal Street to Southwark? 160 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Yeah. 161 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 By the time we got there he was gone. 162 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,120 But we did a drive-by a couple of hours later 163 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,280 and he's standing across the street, walking in circles. 164 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Any ID? Afraid not. 165 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,440 No wallet. No driving licence. He didn't want to give us his name. 166 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,920 You didn't bring him in? We couldn't charge him with anything. 167 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,960 So we decided to relocate him. 168 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Sorry? You know. 169 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,880 Like what they do with bears. Drove him back across the river and dumped him. 170 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Thought at least that way he couldn't do any harm. 171 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Bears? 172 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,160 Are you saying he was picked up for harassing one of the victims 173 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,600 and we still have no idea who he is? It's like he doesn't exist. 174 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,640 No name, no fixed abode, nothing. 175 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,400 Callaghan's pressuring me to release the E-FIT to the media. 176 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,240 Well, you know what, that might not be such a bad idea. 177 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,200 How many homeless guys are there in woolly hats out there? 178 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,640 We'd be buried alive under reported sightings, 179 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,120 not to mention the chances of the wrong bloke getting lynched. 180 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Hello, Ronnie. Are we keeping you from your afternoon tea? 181 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,040 No, not at all. Sorry, guv. 182 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,080 I was thinking about the bayonet. 183 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,120 He didn't have it on him when they took him across the river 184 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,200 so he must have got hold of it last week. 185 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,640 It's not the kind of thing you find in a skip. 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,240 No reports of any bayonets being stolen in the Greater London area. 187 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,200 What if we went to the dealers, 188 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,840 see if any have been carrying any unofficial 20th century items? 189 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,320 Yeah. Turns out Matty's got a secret stash of antique muskets. 190 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Hm. Do you know, I can see that. 191 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Yeah, that sounds right. Compatible with an M1 rifle, yeah? 192 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,480 This was last week? 193 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,480 OK, thanks. You've been very helpful. 194 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Bloke comes up to Covent Garden first Monday of the month, 195 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,640 says he had a mint-condition M1 bayonet 196 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,400 nicked from his stall by some homeless wanker. 197 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,320 Our homeless wanker? Right down to his woolly hat. 198 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Tried to buy it with some vouchers. 199 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,960 That didn't work so he smashed the case and took it. 200 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Vouchers. Yeah, he reckons it was for some night shelter. 201 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,320 He had a stack of them. Thought it was a chequebook. 202 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,200 That very much resembles John. 203 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Would John happen to have a last name? 204 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,000 We only know him as John though some of the regulars call him Zero. 205 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,800 As in Bravo Two Zero. 206 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,520 From Zorro to Zero. 207 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Do you mean he's ex-military? No, no. 208 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 John's more a one-man army. 209 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,440 But he likes to wear the clothes, the boots, all that sort of thing. 210 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 I'm sorry, what is this about? 211 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Well, unfortunately, John is a suspect in a murder investigation. 212 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,360 John? That can't be right. 213 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,640 Well, has he been in recently? 214 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,760 No, not for a few days. The last time was Thursday, I think, for breakfast. 215 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,360 Do you know where he goes when he's not here? No, I'm sorry, I d- 216 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,920 But are you certain this is the person you want? 217 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,960 It's starting to look that way. 218 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,000 I'm very surprised by this. 219 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,160 He doesn't use drugs and he's never violent. 220 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,520 Sometimes he's a little confused, perhaps, 221 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,760 but he struck me as an educated sort of man. 222 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:30,600 Not dangerous in any way. 223 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,440 Excuse me. 224 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,720 Thank you, Father. 225 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,880 So, sometimes he's a bit confused. 226 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,720 When he's not banging his head against the wall. If he ain't a crackhead, he's a nutjob. 227 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Yeah, I know him. Usually wears army fatigues. Name's John Smith. 228 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 You're kidding? It's the name he gave us. 229 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Interesting guy. He recognised my tattoo. 230 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Kushta. Means truth in Aramaic. 231 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,360 John always said it was the language of the common people. 232 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,400 So he was a regular, yeah? 233 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,000 He was. According to this he hasn't picked up his prescription in... 234 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 nearly three months. That's not good. What's he on? 235 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Risperidone and carbamazepine. It's for schizophrenia. 236 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,960 They tried weekly injections but he'd miss the appointments. What happens if he doesn't take them? 237 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Delusions, psychosis. Possibly full-blown mania. 238 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Schizophrenics aren't necessarily violent though, are they? 239 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,160 There's always the exception that proves the rule. 240 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Is John in trouble? Afraid so. 241 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Do you have any idea where we might find him? 242 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Most of these guys register using the clinic address. 243 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,360 So how do they pick up a prescription without an ID? 244 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,920 They have a badge with a temporary NHS number. 245 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Although John had his nicked a while back so he just uses his Westminster library card. 246 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,920 He has a library card? Yeah, a lot of them do. 247 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Some of them even read the books. 248 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,800 He's been in Ancient History since we opened. Same as always. 249 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,160 We thought evacuating the building would arouse his suspicions. 250 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Quite right. You've had no problems with him in the past? No. He just comes to read. 251 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Right, lads, get people out as quickly and quietly as you can. 252 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Whereabouts is he, please? He's in the far corner. Great, thank you. 253 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,040 All right? 254 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Matt, he's coming your way. 255 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,200 Just take it easy, John. 256 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Get away! Police, stop. 257 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,280 John, listen. Drop the bayonet. 258 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,080 I can't hear you. I'm not listening. I can't hear you. No, no, put that down. 259 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Put that down. Someone will get hurt. I can't hear you. 260 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,960 No, no, no, no. 261 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,760 John Smith, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Steven Marx, 262 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Kelly Scott and Linda Bowers and the attempted murder of Joanne Ellis. 263 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Well done, son. 264 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,240 Are you limping? No. 265 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,920 But I am a captain in Jabin's army. 266 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,400 I fought at Kishon River. Calm down, John. 267 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,080 OK? OK? Calm down. 268 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,920 It's quite a system. 269 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,440 They drive wireless HD to work and they're still hungry. 270 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Worse thing is after a while it almost starts making sense. 271 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,280 Are we sure about his name? We're running his prints through the system. OK. 272 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,880 So, let's set up a video ID and get in the eyewitness. 273 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,600 No. 274 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,560 That's him. 275 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Smith's solicitor wants him back on his drugs. 276 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,920 Fine, but we charge him with murder first. 277 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,960 So he's agreed to have a solicitor? As far as we can tell. 278 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,200 We've got a match on the prints. So, why have we previously had the pleasure? 279 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,840 John Patrick Smith. One arrest for stalking a woman 16 months ago. 280 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,640 The original charge was threats to kill but the CPS reviewed it 281 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,520 and amended it to Section 2, simple harassment. 282 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Eh? He got a 12-month supervision order and paid 200 quid in costs. 283 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Might as well give him a Mars Bar and a pat on the head. 284 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 What are the chances of nailing him this time? 285 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Well, do I resign now or do I wait till this hits the papers? 286 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,640 The file says the original charge was way over the top. 287 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,040 And the police had no evidence to support harassment, let alone threat to kill. 288 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,920 And, at the time, Smith had a job. Doing what, for heaven's sake? 289 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Marking legal exams for undergraduate exam boards. God help us all. 290 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,200 His defence never referred to his mental state and the prosecution missed it. 291 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,120 My God. 292 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:45,320 The Home Secretary's hyperventilating. 293 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,640 If the press find out that we had this guy and then we let him go - 294 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,400 Smith's solicitor's withdrawing from the case. 295 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,080 And so the madness begins. 296 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,480 He informed me that he no longer requires my services. 297 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,040 Who's representing him? John Patrick Smith. 298 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,960 MA from Oxford, Master of Laws from Cambridge. 299 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Not to mention his PhD. And he did mention it. Several times. 300 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,640 You're not serious? Oh, yes. 301 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,360 The lunatic has officially taken over the asylum. 302 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:16,280 And he knows his rights. As long as he's fit to stand trial he's fit to represent himself. 303 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 He's not fit for anything. 304 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,040 If he represents himself, this will be a farce. 305 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,560 It's listed for mention so you can bring it up with the judge. Don't worry, I will. 306 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,680 Mr Steel it is usually the defence 307 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,640 who raise the issue of mental competence. 308 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,960 I know, but given the unusual circumstances... Very well. 309 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,400 Mr Smith, it says here 310 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,280 that you have a history of schizoaffective disorder. 311 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,160 That's correct, my Lord. 312 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,200 Since the age of 23. 313 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 I'm prone to manic depression, 314 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,120 paranoid delusions and hallucinations... 315 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,360 unless I'm taking my medication. 316 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,960 And are you currently taking your medication? 317 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Yes, my Lord, ever since my arrest. 318 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,720 And I understand you wish to represent yourself. 319 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,200 Yes, my Lord. I have a first class law degree from Oxford, 320 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,240 as I believe do you, my Lord. 321 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,400 Also an LLM from Cambridge and a PhD in jurisprudence. 322 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,720 Without proper counsel Mr Smith will be at a disadvantage. 323 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 He could also suffer another psychotic break 324 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,920 in which case the trial would collapse, we'd be back where we started. 325 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,960 But, as Mr Steel is aware, 326 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,160 that's an irrelevance. 327 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Unless prosecution can establish incompetence at this precise moment 328 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,480 then the trial must go ahead. 329 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,240 In which case, 330 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,000 subject to medical confirmation 331 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:52,240 of the defendant's fitness to stand trial, we shall proceed. 332 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,640 There's one more thing, my Lord. 333 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,320 As Mr Steel pointed out, I will be at a disadvantage. 334 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,360 Perhaps to level the playing field, 335 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,000 I might conduct my defence from counsel's row. 336 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Mr Steel? 337 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,920 I don't think it's at all appropriate, my Lord. 338 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,680 The defendant is already in custody. 339 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,840 I will allow it. 340 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,720 As you say, Mr Steel, these are unusual circumstances. 341 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,280 A 200-page application to dismiss. 342 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,800 I don't know if we should prosecute him or offer him a job. 343 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,400 I don't understand. Why's he not going for the insanity plea? 344 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,720 He thinks he can prove we've got the wrong man. That won't work. 345 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Well, he's challenging every piece of prosecution evidence. 346 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Prentice won't rush to dismiss against a homicidal schizophrenic. 347 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:45,080 He won't give you an inch either. And he won't be swayed by public opinion, however vitriolic. 348 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,520 I'd be happier if we could find something resembling a motive. 349 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,640 According to Joanne Ellis' statement 350 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,400 he didn't give any sign he even knew who Linda was. Talk to her again. 351 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 And didn't Smith give a sister as his residential address? Yeah. 352 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000 I want to meet her. 353 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Remember, it's not just Smith in the dock over this one. 354 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,640 Radio? TV. 355 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Go easy on the make-up, George. 356 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,640 There was lots of screaming. 357 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,560 There might have been words. 358 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Do you have any idea of what those words could have been? 359 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Something like, 'Live forever'. 360 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Maybe 'life forever'. What does it matter what he said? 361 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,880 The man's a lunatic. If you'd heard him in court last week, you might not be so sure. 362 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,880 It said in the paper he's got a law degree. 363 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,920 Yes, he has. 364 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,160 That why he got let off the first time? Cos he was one of your own? 365 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Absolutely not. It was nothing like that. 366 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,640 The trouble was the prosecution didn't know enough about him. They knew he was stalking a woman. 367 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,360 Didn't that give them a clue there was something wrong with him? 368 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,040 Mr Ellis, I can't imagine what you're going through, 369 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,560 you and Joanne. 370 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,440 I want you to know how sorry I am. 371 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,600 And that makes it all right, as long as you're sorry? 372 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,440 You lot had him and you let him go. 373 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,040 And now my little girl - Dad. 374 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,760 Yeah, well, we've got ourselves a lawyer too, 375 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,200 us and the other families. 376 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,240 And he's advised us to take a civil action against the police and the CPS. 377 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,160 You let us down, Miss Phillips, 378 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,200 and someone's going to pay. 379 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480 When I talked to my brother last month... 380 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 he didn't mention Linda Bowers. 381 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,840 He called because he'd overheard someone plotting to kill our parents. 382 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Our parents died three years ago. 383 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,320 The woman he injured heard him shout the words 'life forever'. 384 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,440 He probably said 'the wife of Heber'. 385 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,720 It's from the Old Testament. 386 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,680 She lured Sisera into her tent with food then stabbed him through the temple. 387 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Does this have a particular relevance for your brother? 388 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Uh. 389 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,240 Johnny went through a religious phase as a teenager. 390 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,400 When he developed schizophrenia 391 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,720 he accused his girlfriend of putting needles in his brain. 392 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,920 He called her the wife of Heber. 393 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Was he violent towards his girlfriend? 394 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800 He tried to strangle her in his room at Oxford. 395 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,840 The next day he was admitted to hospital for six months. 396 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,240 So there's your motive. 397 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,760 I only wanted to find out about his behaviour. 398 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Oh, really? 399 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,640 Because last time Johnny was arrested, I kept trying to tell someone 400 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,680 that he needed to be in hospital. 401 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,720 That he needed supervision and support to help him stay on his medication. 402 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,840 But surely, given that history, there must have been some way to get him help. 403 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,880 And what would you suggest? 404 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Have him locked up? 405 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Have him forcibly injected with antipsychotics? 406 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Unfortunately, the mentally ill have rights too, Mr Steel. 407 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,240 I'm sorry. It's just... 408 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800 For 15 years I've known something like this was coming. 409 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,960 And there was nothing I could do to stop it. 410 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,480 It's not about money. I won't say a trial like this isn't expensive, of course it is, 411 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 but, at the end of the day, you're faced with a choice 412 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,320 between a public expenditure that is way out of control... 413 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,440 God, 'at the end of the day'. 414 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,360 I sound like the Scotland football manager. Suit looked good though. 415 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,400 What reaction from on high? 416 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,680 I have been summoned for a strategy discussion. 417 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,320 The good news is Smith's application to dismiss has been denied. 418 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,880 He's pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. 419 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 He couldn't have done that from the start? 420 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,200 OK, let's get this over with then. 421 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,400 Accept the plea, establish the facts, 422 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560 then Prentice can issue a hospital order 423 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,600 and put Smith back where he belongs. 424 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,000 With no criminal conviction, he can only be held while there's a mental health justification. 425 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,080 So if he takes his medication he could be out within weeks. 426 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,960 Smith knows that. Why else risk an insanity plea? Because he's insane. 427 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800 OK, OK. 428 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,280 And you really think he belongs in prison? There has to be a trial. 429 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,200 You won't get a murder verdict if he goes down this route. 430 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,280 I'll talk to him. If I get him to plead manslaughter diminished responsibility 431 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 he'll get a sentence in a secure unit or hospital 432 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,040 and there'll be no early release just cos he took his pills. 433 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,080 And if he won't change his plea? 434 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,360 Look, why am I even asking? 435 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,960 Fine. Talk to him. 436 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,160 I'd be interested to know what you thought of my application, Mr Steel. 437 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Of course, it's a long shot - Mr Smith, I'm only here to discuss your plea. 438 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Of course. 439 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320 You know, the... 440 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,800 one thing I regret about pleading insanity 441 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,840 is that there won't be a full trial. 442 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,160 I'd have enjoyed the chance to really... 443 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,680 flex my legal muscles. 444 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Three people are dead. 445 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,320 And a young girl has been left with horrific injuries. 446 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,680 That doesn't bother you? 447 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,920 Well, obviously, I'm sorry for what happened 448 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,840 but, you have to understand, that wasn't me, 449 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,880 I'm not that creature. 450 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,360 I...I... 451 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480 won't take the blame for something that he did. 452 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,080 You honestly believe you should walk free? 453 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,800 I don't think I should be punished for something I didn't do 454 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,520 and I can hardly be rehabilitated 455 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560 when I have no memory of committing a crime. 456 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Assuming, of course, that you subscribe to the view 457 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520 that prison is an opportunity for rehabilitation. 458 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,760 I'm here because we're prepared to amend the indictment. 459 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,080 We'll accept a plea of guilty to manslaughter due to diminished responsibility. 460 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,880 Is that a joke? You'd be looking at 5-10 years in a secure unit or hospital 461 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,720 as opposed to the 25 you'd get in prison for murder. 462 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480 They'll never send me to prison. 463 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,960 I've got a dozen expert witnesses, 464 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,160 all of whom will confirm that I'm insane. 465 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,640 I wouldn't necessarily assume a jury will find you not guilty. 466 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,520 You killed three people. They won't care why you did it, 467 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,360 they'll want to lock you up so you can't do it again. 468 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,280 I feel that's an acceptable risk when weighed against my freedom. 469 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Freedom to do what exactly, John? 470 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Look at how you've been living. If you plead guilty 471 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560 to manslaughter diminished responsibility 472 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000 you'll go somewhere where you can get help. 473 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Do you know the kind of people 474 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,520 who end up in mental institutions, Mr Steel? 475 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560 I am NOT one of them. 476 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880 I don't belong there. You have an illness, John. 477 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,960 Yes, but when I'm medicated I'm just like you. 478 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,600 I think you find that frightening. 479 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Perhaps you know how it feels, 480 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360 that urge to just let go 481 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,400 and to hell with the consequences. 482 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400 There are always consequences. Are there? 483 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560 I would have made a brilliant lawyer, Mr Steel. 484 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,600 I really would. 485 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 And I will get to prove it. 486 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400 He's treating the whole thing like a game. 487 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160 We can't counter his plea by claiming he was sane. 488 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560 The witnesses say he was climbing the wall. 489 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Now he's calmly debating the merits of the penal system. 490 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920 He's different when he's medicated. That's hardly news. 491 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,880 It's practically the basis of his defence. Exactly. 492 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480 As long as he takes his pills his mind works just fine. 493 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,000 So when he decided to stop taking them he knew what he was doing. 494 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,160 But he didn't go out and get high. That's his natural state. 495 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,080 I'm naturally bad-tempered. It doesn't mean I can punch you when you annoy me. Like now. 496 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,200 I'd like to see you try. We're talking about prosecuting for an omission. 497 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,120 We wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I'm saying he knew what would happen and did it anyway. 498 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Have you ever been on antipsychotic drugs, Dr Armitage? 499 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,280 No, I haven't. 500 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Well, I am using every ounce of energy that I have right now 501 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,840 just trying to talk to you. 502 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,080 It's like I'm pawing through a thick blanket. 503 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,360 I feel stiff and half a step behind everybody. 504 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,720 I feel so tired just trying to... 505 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,960 ..hold on to reality. 506 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,600 I don't know. I think letting go is almost a relief. 507 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,800 He knows what he's like without medication. He wilfully chose to stop taking it. 508 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,600 I know where you're going with this. He created the circumstances that led to the murders. 509 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640 Letting go isn't just a relief. He actively enjoys it. 510 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,640 You can't punish someone for having a medical condition. 511 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,320 Smith says as long as he's on his medication he's as sane as the next man. 512 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,080 Makes you worry about the next man. The legal system can't deal with the mentally ill. 513 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240 You only work with absolutes. He slaughtered three people. 514 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440 While in the grip of a terrifying and overwhelming delusion. 515 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,080 You say he's shown no remorse. How can he? 516 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,960 Convincing himself that crazy John is a totally separate entity 517 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,520 is the only way that he can cope. He's playing the system, Roddy. 518 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,080 He's an expert on legal insanity 519 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,440 using his condition to get away with murder. If he pleads guilty 520 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,440 his coping mechanism will crumble. Then where does he go? 521 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,080 The way I see it, the longer he's locked up the safer for everyone. 522 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,600 It's as if your expert witness may as well be working for the defence. 523 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,040 I can work around it. The Home Secretary feels very strongly that we should take the plea. 524 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,520 He thinks it would be a PR disaster if Smith is found not guilty 525 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,560 after a long, high-profile trial. 526 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 And what did you say? I told him that it was entirely inappropriate 527 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720 for him to try to influence a prosecution of a high court case. 528 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000 Go George. Well, I am indeed the man. 529 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 But we are not operating in a vacuum here, James. 530 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,080 Mental health charities are banging down the door 531 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,600 saying that the system fails to indentify vulnerable defendants 532 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,960 and this lot want to start a campaign 533 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,560 for a national register for the mentally ill. 534 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,640 If Smith does win in court then the fallout could be horrendous. 535 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280 In all directions. He's not going to. 536 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,320 He can play the victim all he likes. 537 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,600 Even if a jury thinks that he was insane when he drew the bayonet, 538 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,240 what about when he stole it or when he decided to throw away his pills? 539 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,480 He didn't just make one choice, George. 540 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200 A whole series of decisions led to those deaths. 541 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360 And if Joanne Ellis has to live with the consequences... 542 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,240 then so should Smith. 543 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,720 I saw the manager and another woman on the floor bleeding. 544 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,320 Then I heard a shout... 545 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,320 ..and this man ran towards me. 546 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,840 Something hit my head. 547 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160 I don't remember anything else. 548 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Miss Ellis, can you describe the long-term effects 549 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440 of the head injury you sustained? 550 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240 I've lost the sight in my right eye. 551 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,120 I have limited muscle control on my left-hand side... 552 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,240 ..particularly my left arm. 553 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880 I get very bad headaches 554 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,040 and I have problems with concentration and memory loss. 555 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840 What did you do for a living before the incident? 556 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,560 I was a dancer with the Royal Ballet. 557 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,560 And will you be able to continue in that career at some point? 558 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,840 No. 559 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,240 Thank you. No further questions. 560 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Miss Ellis, um... 561 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120 I'm very sorry that you were injured. 562 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040 When you first saw me I didn't look like this, did I? No. 563 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,880 Do you remember what I used to look like? 564 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,520 You were dirty, with longer hair. 565 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,960 You were disgusting. I looked like somebody who should have been in a mental hospital. Yes. 566 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Like somebody who is clearly insane. My Lord - Yes. 567 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,320 In fact, you're pursuing a civil action, aren't you, against the CPS 568 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,160 for allowing someone so unmistakably insane to walk free? 569 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,600 Yes, I am. So, if you blame anyone, 570 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,920 it's really the justice system that failed to protect you. 571 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,640 My Lord, please. He's right. You let him do this. 572 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440 You could have stopped him but you let him go. 573 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,480 And look what he did to me. 574 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,840 That will do, Mr Smith. 575 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Miss Ellis, 576 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,760 you may step down. 577 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,880 Antipsychotic drugs have powerful side effects. 578 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,440 It's the most common reason patients stop taking them. 579 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,400 So, in the case of the defendant, 580 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080 he didn't stop because he thought he was cured. 581 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,120 I don't believe so. 582 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,160 So he was aware of the consequences. 583 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,720 He knows he's susceptible to paranoid delusions 584 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,600 and that these previously led him to try and strangle a girlfriend. 585 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 And do they explain why he was following Linda Bowers 586 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,200 and why he ultimately killed her. Yes. 587 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,240 He believed she was plotting to kill him and that Miss Ellis and the others were her accomplices. 588 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,280 So, just to be entirely clear, 589 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,560 at the moment when the defendant stopped taking his medication 590 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,400 he knew that would cause the return of the delusions that had previously led to violence. 591 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,440 Yes, he did. 592 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,240 Thank you, Dr Armitage. 593 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,720 Dr Armitage, um... 594 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,760 ..you described the side effects of my medication as powerful. 595 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,000 That's correct. 596 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040 So, in your opinion, 597 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520 whilst experiencing these powerful side effects, 598 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,400 would I have been able to accurately predict the likelihood 599 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 of any future psychotic behaviour? 600 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,240 No. Thank you. 601 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,680 And will he be able to predict it in the future? No. 602 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,560 Mr Steel, you are not at liberty 603 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,800 to fire questions at the witness whenever the mood takes you. 604 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,320 That poor girl was your best bet 605 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,760 and Smith got her to say that he wasn't to blame. 606 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,320 But did you see how Smith reacted when Roddy talked about next time? 607 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,240 So he realises he's trapped in a cycle of behaviour. 608 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,960 What good does that do us? For Smith to admit his guilt 609 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,240 he must confront what he's done and accept he might do it again. 610 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,040 We need someone who's been through that cycle with him time after time. 611 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,360 Patricia won't help you put her brother away. 612 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,600 She knows him better than he knows himself. She's on his side. 613 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,840 Doesn't mean she's on his witness list. 614 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000 With a manslaughter charge he could still go to prison. 615 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,360 If he did, he'd be in a secure unit under medical supervision. 616 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,520 But unless he changes his plea, 617 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,240 he could be found guilty of murder. That won't happen. 618 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,280 They can see that he's sick. 619 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,440 If he's found not guilty and he's back on his medication, 620 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 they won't legally be able to hold him. 621 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,760 I don't believe this. 622 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,400 I've spent half my life dreading what he might do 623 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,160 and this happened and now you're telling me it makes no difference, nothing's changed. 624 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000 I'm sorry. I can't do this any more. I'm sorry, I just can't. 625 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,440 Then break the pattern. 626 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,960 Make the jury understand how badly John needs long-term care. 627 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,400 You're asking me to betray my brother? 628 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,840 No. 629 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,880 I'm asking you to save him. 630 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,320 Miss Smith, is this the first time 631 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,080 your brother has stopped taking his medication? 632 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,800 No. 633 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,040 Over the past 15 years it's happened more than a dozen times. 634 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,960 How did you deal with this? 635 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,920 Well, I begged him to keep taking his pills. 636 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,160 I warned him that he might...harm himself... 637 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,160 ..or other people if he stopped. 638 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,320 But he just said other people would have to stay out of his way. 639 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,640 Did he ever offer an explanation for his behaviour? 640 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,600 Yes. 641 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,840 I found out he'd rented a flat in Ladbroke Grove... 642 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,240 on the 14th floor. 643 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,240 What did you do? 644 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,840 I went there. 645 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040 He was sitting on the living room floor. 646 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,920 He said he'd tried so hard to stay on his medicine 647 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,440 so that he'd get a job as a... 648 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520 ..lawyer or even a teacher... 649 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,240 ..but that no-one wanted him because he was sick. 650 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080 He said there was no point in taking his medicine. 651 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040 He said he'd rented the flat 652 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360 so that he'd be able to jump off the balcony. 653 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,880 He...he needs somebody... 654 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,440 to make him take his medication. 655 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,600 He's trying to convince you that he's in control but he can't help himself. 656 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,000 Somebody has to help him. 657 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,040 Please, God. 658 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,120 I understand you studied the Bible, Mr Smith, the Old Testament in particular. 659 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Is that right? Yes. When I was younger, yeah. 660 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,440 And this was before you became ill. 661 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,920 Is that correct, Mr Smith? Yes. 662 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,160 And these details and these images, 663 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400 they stayed with you when you became ill. 664 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,440 In fact, they became the basis of your delusions. 665 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480 That's right, yeah. 666 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200 So, does it work the other way? 667 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,440 I don't understand. Well, when you're on your medication, as you are now, 668 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,040 do you ever have any thoughts or memories 669 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,280 from the times you've been delusional? 670 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000 Not really, no. 671 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,400 'Not really, no.' So, what, you remember some things? 672 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,400 Occasionally. People's faces, perhaps? 673 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,120 Sometimes. 674 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,160 What about their voices? 675 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,200 Do you hear voices, John, things they might have said? 676 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040 Er... 677 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,360 I suppose so. Do you remember your sister coming to see you at Ladbroke Grove? 678 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,920 Where? The flat when you were planning to kill yourself. 679 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120 Uh...er... I wasn't... 680 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Um... I was... I was... I was taking my medication then. 681 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,280 So you weren't delusional at that time? No, no. 682 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,600 Do you remember seeing Joanne Ellis' face? N...n... Do you remember her voice? 683 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,200 She would have been screaming as you came towards her with a bayonet. 684 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,800 What about when you pushed her to the ground or sliced the bayonet into her skull? No. 685 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,840 Maybe you thought she was a witness, that she'd run away. 686 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,560 Maybe you thought she'd call the police. It wasn't that. What was it? 687 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,680 I thought that um... What? What did you think? Explain it to me. 688 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120 I can't it. Explain it to me, John. 689 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,760 I thought that sh... 690 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,880 I thought that they wanted to kill me. 691 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,200 I thought that you all wanted me dead so I... 692 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,400 had to... I had to stop you. I didn't care how. 693 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,000 No further questions. 694 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,000 John Smith, you have pleaded guilty to the charge of manslaughter. 695 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,960 Yes. 696 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,880 Before sentencing, do you wish to say anything in mitigation? 697 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,520 Yes, um... 698 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,040 I have suffered from schizoaffective disorder since the age of 23. 699 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,000 I'm prone to manic depression, paranoid delusions, hallucinations. 700 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,600 The paper's full of needles. They gave it to me to hurt me. It cuts and I bleed. 701 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,760 Mr Smith. I heard what Deborah said unto Barak. The Lord will discomfit me. 702 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,040 You're looking at me. 703 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,080 I made them do that, Patty. 704 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,640 You look like a pony. Please don't do that otherwise I'll leave. 705 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,960 Mr Smith, sit down. Mr Luthra, please. Wait, wait, wait, wait. 706 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,720 This isn't my armour. They took my armour. 707 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040 I absolutely can't wear this armour! 708 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,040 Mr Smith, we shall take care of your armour once we are finished. 709 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,280 Now, please sit down. 710 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,320 I'm sitting down. 711 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,320 I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down, I'm sitting down. 712 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,280 I'm sitting down. Sitting down. 713 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,320 I'm sitting down. I'm sitting down. 714 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,520 Drink? 715 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080 Er, sorry, I'll be working late. 716 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,840 They've put John Smith on suicide watch. 717 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,760 Mm. He sent me a copy of his closing speech. 718 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Is it any good? It's well structured, persuasive. 719 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,360 Pretty much what I'd have said if I'd been defending him. 720 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,080 So, he really could have been a brilliant lawyer then. 63902

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