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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,570 --> 00:00:04,629 you 3 00:00:19,470 --> 00:00:21,529 you 5 00:00:28,370 --> 00:00:31,440 [Music] 7 00:00:36,410 --> 00:00:44,409 [Music] 9 00:00:52,270 --> 00:00:58,799 [Music] 11 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:27,540 I jumped out of the West but oh my god 13 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:30,270 the planes gonna crash this thing came 15 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:32,520 right across north to south of 17 00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:34,440 incidentally I was a private pilot so I 19 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,789 have some familiarity with there it 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,810 glided over my house and there was I saw 23 00:01:37,789 --> 00:01:42,000 what I thought to be a kind of a 25 00:01:39,810 --> 00:01:43,920 boomerang shape oh my god that's a 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,720 wingspan I've never seen anything like 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,640 that they were reported by at least one 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,690 commercial airline pilot 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,759 it was you fungus product it passed 35 00:01:51,690 --> 00:01:56,630 right in front of us just about right 37 00:01:53,759 --> 00:01:56,630 above eyes length 39 00:02:03,409 --> 00:02:08,619 no I don't hear anything what the hell 41 00:02:06,409 --> 00:02:08,619 is that 43 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:14,490 I came out second after Monica and I 45 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:17,880 remember looking at it was coming over 47 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:20,340 the mountain and was like almost is why 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,890 it is one of the humps in Amy's very low 51 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:25,110 it's coming across the sky and as it's 53 00:02:22,890 --> 00:02:28,410 moving it's blocking and unblocking the 55 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:30,750 stars there is actually a shape it was 57 00:02:28,410 --> 00:02:33,870 more like a boomerang than a like a 59 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:37,320 straight V and then the lights were 61 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:40,290 spaced pretty evenly it was actually 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,930 five lights that were a V one in front 65 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:45,510 two and two on each side and it was 67 00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:47,820 perfect it was a perfect triangle if you 69 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:51,800 can imagine something the size a 71 00:02:47,820 --> 00:02:55,140 Camelback Mountain floating down 73 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,510 Scottsdale Road you have some idea of 75 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:59,880 the intensity of this thing the object 77 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:01,710 we saw if we opened up a newspaper you 79 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,600 could not block out the object that we 81 00:03:01,710 --> 00:03:05,970 saw people say Mike know you saw a b-2 83 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,800 bomber my response was we could land all 85 00:03:05,970 --> 00:03:10,230 40 of our b-2 bombers on the wing of 87 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,690 that craft you know is it's it's one of 89 00:03:10,230 --> 00:03:15,300 the biggest things I've ever seen 91 00:03:12,690 --> 00:03:17,970 that uh that moved like that I mean it 93 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:20,250 was just enormous it happened last night 95 00:03:17,970 --> 00:03:22,380 and eyewitnesses who saw it say it's 97 00:03:20,250 --> 00:03:24,120 like nothing they've ever seen before I 99 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:27,540 don't know if it was big as an aircraft 101 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:32,220 carrier it might have been because I've 103 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:34,890 never seen your craft carrier fly it 105 00:03:32,220 --> 00:03:37,170 barely missed that mountain yeah came 107 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:39,000 floating over the mountain so had you 109 00:03:37,170 --> 00:03:40,640 not looked up you wouldn't know no my 111 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,950 daughter was 8:30 at night my daughter 113 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:46,020 was coming over here and she ran in and 115 00:03:43,950 --> 00:03:47,790 said mom you have got to see this so we 117 00:03:46,020 --> 00:03:50,430 are there was such an uproar about what 119 00:03:47,790 --> 00:03:53,370 people described seeing that we also did 121 00:03:50,430 --> 00:03:55,920 a story about it back in 1997 the first 123 00:03:53,370 --> 00:03:58,500 report of a strange flying object came 125 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,990 at about 8:20 that night from a former 127 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:02,880 police officer in hauled in Arizona over 129 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:05,430 the next 40 minutes people gave similar 131 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,610 reports of an object along a 200-mile 133 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:11,070 route south to Phoenix and Tucson it was 135 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:15,109 a gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it 137 00:04:11,070 --> 00:04:17,970 wasn't invisible it was more of a dull 139 00:04:15,109 --> 00:04:18,989 bluish black color and we both just 141 00:04:17,970 --> 00:04:20,790 stayed there and looked at it for a 143 00:04:18,989 --> 00:04:23,669 couple minutes and it was completely 145 00:04:20,790 --> 00:04:25,800 silent when you look down the street on 147 00:04:23,669 --> 00:04:27,360 a hot day in Phoenix above the streets 149 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,580 like it's really wavy 151 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,140 and you see everything kind of distorted 153 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:33,840 I asked what it looked like up inside 155 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:35,970 the middle of the craft it was just 157 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,310 gliding and then it stopped and then it 159 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:39,940 like the sides retracted a little and 161 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:43,210 then it was gone 163 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:46,200 so acceleration to deceleration it was 165 00:04:43,210 --> 00:04:48,130 no noise the whole time and not a sound 167 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,300 explanations have been tossed about that 169 00:04:48,130 --> 00:04:51,670 they were flares there were planes 171 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:53,200 flying in formation but market robbing 173 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:54,520 we check with the FAA today we checked 175 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 with Sky Harbor we checked with Luke Air 177 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,540 Force Base and there's been no official 179 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,130 explanation of those strange bright 181 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:03,510 flights lectures 183 00:05:01,130 --> 00:05:06,420 [Music] 185 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:08,220 I'm gonna order a you know investigation 187 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:09,540 of this through DPS we're gonna make all 189 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:10,830 the necessary inquiries and we're gonna 191 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:12,300 get to the bottom of we're gonna find 193 00:05:10,830 --> 00:05:15,749 out if it was a UFO 195 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,749 [Applause] 197 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:20,860 I'm patty Kirkpatrick remember those 199 00:05:18,850 --> 00:05:23,260 mysterious lights in the sky well the 201 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:23,800 governor says there are new leads in the 203 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:25,720 case 205 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,610 good evening Arizona Governor is holding 207 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,070 a news conference on the lights in the 209 00:05:27,610 --> 00:05:32,320 sky over Phoenix in March let's listen 211 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:34,360 in and now I'll ask officer Stein and 213 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,130 his colleagues to escort the accused 215 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,500 into the room so that we may all look 217 00:05:36,130 --> 00:05:45,070 upon the guilty party and don't get him 219 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:46,510 too close to me please this just goes to 221 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:57,100 show that you guys are entirely too 223 00:05:46,510 --> 00:05:59,110 serious I think what really irritated me 225 00:05:57,100 --> 00:06:01,210 was the joke the governor pulled with 227 00:05:59,110 --> 00:06:02,650 the Martian you know I just didn't have 229 00:06:01,210 --> 00:06:04,630 time for that kind of stuff 231 00:06:02,650 --> 00:06:07,500 he was just dismissing everything that 233 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:10,720 these people had seen and said just like 235 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:12,669 we're all Looney Tunes and I know what I 237 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,350 saw and that's not what you're telling 239 00:06:12,669 --> 00:06:16,390 me what I saw I didn't see flares I 241 00:06:14,350 --> 00:06:19,870 didn't see a 10 or Warthog 243 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:21,740 so how about we work together and try to 245 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:29,029 figure out what this thing is 247 00:06:21,740 --> 00:06:29,029 [Music] 249 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:46,690 [Music] 251 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:48,610 so when you hear someone says they saw 253 00:06:46,690 --> 00:06:51,360 UFO you what you think they're crazy yes 255 00:06:48,610 --> 00:06:51,360 I think they're crazy 257 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,890 what puzzles me is why people laugh at 259 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:59,230 the subject of UFOs but when the 261 00:06:56,890 --> 00:07:04,020 laughter stops everyone secretly wants 263 00:06:59,230 --> 00:07:04,020 to know are they real see that now 265 00:07:04,689 --> 00:07:13,479 keep going I don't know if I want to 267 00:07:10,659 --> 00:07:15,789 know if UFOs are real because then that 269 00:07:13,479 --> 00:07:16,329 raises a lot of other issues who are 271 00:07:15,789 --> 00:07:18,849 they 273 00:07:16,329 --> 00:07:22,299 why are they here are they gonna hurt me 275 00:07:18,849 --> 00:07:23,649 do they have chocolate when I told my 277 00:07:22,299 --> 00:07:26,439 father I wanted to make a documentary 279 00:07:23,649 --> 00:07:30,369 about UFOs he said it was crazy 281 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:32,499 in fact my whole family did and 95% of 283 00:07:30,369 --> 00:07:35,709 the time this stuff is crazy 285 00:07:32,499 --> 00:07:37,809 but the remaining 5% that is what keeps 287 00:07:35,709 --> 00:07:39,269 me going this man in the saucer can you 289 00:07:37,809 --> 00:07:41,860 describe him 291 00:07:39,269 --> 00:07:44,529 what year was the second year I'm James 293 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:49,679 Fox and I've been curious about UFOs for 295 00:07:44,529 --> 00:07:52,539 a long time it is very curious do that 297 00:07:49,679 --> 00:07:54,999 evidently the Air Force is curious too 299 00:07:52,539 --> 00:07:58,119 in pursuit of this obligation and in 301 00:07:54,999 --> 00:08:00,189 1952 they admitted it we have received 303 00:07:58,119 --> 00:08:02,409 and analyzed between one and two 305 00:08:00,189 --> 00:08:04,659 thousand reports there have been a 307 00:08:02,409 --> 00:08:07,899 certain percentage of this volume of 309 00:08:04,659 --> 00:08:11,019 reports that have been made by credible 311 00:08:07,899 --> 00:08:15,459 observers of relatively incredible 313 00:08:11,019 --> 00:08:17,169 things all blocked up know what was 315 00:08:15,459 --> 00:08:19,300 under there with the help of 317 00:08:17,169 --> 00:08:21,129 investigative reporter Lesley came I 319 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:23,559 decided to put together some of the best 321 00:08:21,129 --> 00:08:25,509 witnesses from around the world for this 323 00:08:23,559 --> 00:08:27,249 film almost 10 years after the 325 00:08:25,509 --> 00:08:28,809 termination of Project Blue Book in the 327 00:08:27,249 --> 00:08:31,179 cases and photographs you are about to 329 00:08:28,809 --> 00:08:32,650 see represent some of the best evidence 331 00:08:31,179 --> 00:08:33,770 that UFOs are real 333 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:35,560 [Music] 335 00:08:33,770 --> 00:08:37,459 some unknown origin what were they after 337 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:38,510 because the name the light that came 339 00:08:37,459 --> 00:08:40,909 down at our feet 341 00:08:38,510 --> 00:08:43,190 miss James beams were going down into 343 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:45,410 the WUSA we are all in the limo and 345 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:46,850 operator of the target verify that 347 00:08:45,410 --> 00:08:49,040 several said they were looking for 349 00:08:46,850 --> 00:08:52,130 fissile material here the same question 351 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,750 over and over if UFOs are real then 353 00:08:52,130 --> 00:08:56,170 surely someone in the know would be 355 00:08:53,750 --> 00:09:01,510 talking so what's wrong are we actually 357 00:08:56,170 --> 00:09:01,510 going on the air at six o'clock 359 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:06,290 because 361 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:10,060 yes 363 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:20,540 good evening a historic occasion will 365 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:22,820 take place in Washington on Monday 367 00:09:20,540 --> 00:09:24,980 former high-level government employees 369 00:09:22,820 --> 00:09:26,020 military officials and pilots from all 371 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:29,150 over the world will come together 373 00:09:26,020 --> 00:09:30,680 they'll discuss their own UFO sightings 375 00:09:29,150 --> 00:09:33,020 and encounters and they'll do it at the 377 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:34,940 National Press Club in the nation's 379 00:09:33,020 --> 00:09:36,950 capital space this group has gathered 381 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:38,600 together to call on the United States 383 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:41,510 government to take an active role in 385 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,570 investigating cases involving 387 00:09:41,510 --> 00:09:46,700 unidentified flying objects James Fox ue 389 00:09:44,570 --> 00:09:48,980 they on Monday - absolutely yes 391 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:50,510 - establish the fact that the phenomenon 393 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:52,610 is real and it's and it's happening 395 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:54,290 worldwide five are we now saying that 397 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:56,330 the United States is taking this 399 00:09:54,290 --> 00:09:58,790 seriously or is this just an event I 401 00:09:56,330 --> 00:10:01,430 think the United States is taking it 403 00:09:58,790 --> 00:10:03,530 seriously and they they need to it's 405 00:10:01,430 --> 00:10:05,150 it's long overdue and you're gonna 407 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:08,390 moderate it right I'm gonna moderate it 409 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:10,430 I'm five Symington in 1997 during my 411 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:12,710 second term as governor of Arizona 413 00:10:10,430 --> 00:10:15,680 I saw something that defied logic and 415 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:18,080 challenged my reality before this event 417 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:20,200 I met with the governor at his home to 419 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,790 find out why he ridiculed the sighting 421 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,860 we were in the middle of investigating 423 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:28,010 it and just couldn't get any answers 425 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:31,490 paralleling that activity was this 427 00:10:28,010 --> 00:10:33,560 almost hysterical environment that was 429 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:36,260 building the hysteria the governor told 431 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:38,300 me what was actually going on behind the 433 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:40,310 scenes and we called Luke Air Force Base 435 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:42,380 and we called the FAA and I called 437 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:44,720 various touch base with people I called 439 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:47,150 my general at the at the National Guard 441 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:50,320 nobody had an explanation people who 443 00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:52,970 said well we just don't know what it is 445 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,740 Phoenix Councilwoman Frances Barwood 447 00:10:52,970 --> 00:10:56,930 was one of the only elected 449 00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:59,810 representatives willing to push for an 451 00:10:56,930 --> 00:11:01,460 investigation I would have thought that 453 00:10:59,810 --> 00:11:04,490 they would have wanted to do an 455 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:06,000 investigation but apparently they would 457 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:10,400 rather ignore it 459 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,720 I don't know why at bar woods request 461 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,620 Senator John McCain looked into the 463 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,620 matter of personal 465 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:22,170 we asked the Air Force to look into it 467 00:11:18,690 --> 00:11:23,880 and this was the first response that 469 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:27,709 we've got and we're going to go back and 471 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,709 ask them to look at it again 473 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:35,310 Senator McCain wrote letters to both the 475 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:37,500 National Archives and the Air Force both 477 00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:42,709 claimed not to have jurisdiction over 479 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:45,899 such matters I was kind of surprised at 481 00:11:42,709 --> 00:11:47,430 at that response but there are people 483 00:11:45,899 --> 00:11:50,040 who said they saw things and whenever 485 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:52,280 that happens they deserve at least an 487 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,679 investigation seems to me 489 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,509 [Music] 491 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,089 the air force explanation eventually 493 00:11:57,509 --> 00:12:02,220 provided to Senator McCain was military 495 00:12:00,089 --> 00:12:04,450 flares dropped from a-10 warthogs 497 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:08,859 between 9:30 and 10:00 p.m. 499 00:12:04,450 --> 00:12:08,859 [Music] 501 00:12:09,860 --> 00:12:19,970 oh my god I hit paydirt finally 503 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:23,180 according to some analysts these lights 505 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:25,130 captured on film were flares well that 507 00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:27,380 is a totally different configuration 509 00:12:25,130 --> 00:12:29,600 we've ever seen whatever but this does 511 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:31,670 not account for the large boomerang 513 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,950 shaped object seen by the governor in 515 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:36,529 hundreds possibly thousands of others 517 00:12:33,950 --> 00:12:40,910 across the state beginning several hours 519 00:12:36,529 --> 00:12:44,750 earlier I mean it clearly had a shape to 521 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:47,450 it and in a big shape and it was a 523 00:12:44,750 --> 00:12:49,250 constant shake and you you can't control 525 00:12:47,450 --> 00:12:50,769 flares that way there's just no way they 527 00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:53,899 were flares 529 00:12:50,769 --> 00:12:57,260 why can't he tell us what's it gonna 531 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:59,690 hurt I would like I would like for them 533 00:12:57,260 --> 00:13:00,950 to come out and say that's top secret 535 00:12:59,690 --> 00:13:01,370 and we're not going to tell you what it 537 00:13:00,950 --> 00:13:04,279 was 539 00:13:01,370 --> 00:13:07,100 the v-formation I was only able to find 541 00:13:04,279 --> 00:13:09,260 one video taken of the earlier sightings 543 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:12,230 light over a period of somewhere but I 545 00:13:09,260 --> 00:13:14,690 was however given this video taken by an 547 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:16,459 army colonel a few years earlier it 549 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:20,089 reminds me of what Arizona witnesses 551 00:13:16,459 --> 00:13:23,170 described seen no sound and it's not 553 00:13:20,089 --> 00:13:23,170 planes flying in formation 555 00:13:26,019 --> 00:13:31,779 I don't hear anything no I don't hear 557 00:13:28,029 --> 00:13:35,170 anything and the hell is that you see 559 00:13:31,779 --> 00:13:39,249 the stars you see through it right 561 00:13:35,170 --> 00:13:41,170 there's a Jessie it now and it's that's 563 00:13:39,249 --> 00:13:44,850 not planes flying in formation behind it 565 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:44,850 either it's another another triangle 567 00:13:47,290 --> 00:13:52,899 what would you say to the people about 569 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:56,380 it I'd say I saw an unidentified flying 571 00:13:52,899 --> 00:13:58,720 object of massive proportions float over 573 00:13:56,380 --> 00:14:00,490 the City of Phoenix and Scottsdale and I 575 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,149 don't have that damnedest clue what it 577 00:14:00,490 --> 00:14:05,620 was I saw it was over my house I saw it 579 00:14:04,149 --> 00:14:08,019 for five minutes it wasn't something 581 00:14:05,620 --> 00:14:10,029 that was a flash that I only saw for a 583 00:14:08,019 --> 00:14:12,819 second could it have been I know when I 585 00:14:10,029 --> 00:14:14,769 saw and I get very upset and I was 587 00:14:12,819 --> 00:14:15,240 wondering why they won't find out what 589 00:14:14,769 --> 00:14:22,359 it was 591 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:22,359 [Music] 593 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:34,140 [Music] 595 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:35,250 govenor Symington i am bill burns from 597 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:38,340 the History Channel 599 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:40,080 just a quick question when you were 601 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:42,960 giving your press conference back in 603 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,460 Phoenix were there any external 605 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:50,180 pressures on you to defuse a situation 607 00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:53,520 in the way you did or did anyone 609 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:55,170 instruct you not to comment on the truth 611 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,839 of what was happening in Phoenix well 613 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:59,339 the only external pressure and it was 615 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:02,070 significant was the fact that there was 617 00:14:59,339 --> 00:15:05,760 just this massive public reaction to the 619 00:15:02,070 --> 00:15:08,880 lights over Phoenix I mean we've just 621 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,500 being inundated by the press and people 623 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,770 coming into my office saying this thing 625 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:17,400 is just reaching heights of hysteria and 627 00:15:13,770 --> 00:15:18,630 concern I'd never seen that before I 629 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,240 mean I've been in office for quite a 631 00:15:18,630 --> 00:15:25,620 while and I'd never seen kind of that 633 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:28,320 reaction and so three of us sort of sat 635 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:30,300 down at the end and decided to to try to 637 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,950 lighten the mood a little bit well I'd 639 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:35,760 like now to set the record straight I 641 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:37,830 never meant to ridicule anyone my office 643 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,260 did make enquiries as to the origin of 645 00:15:37,830 --> 00:15:42,270 the craft but to this day they remain 647 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:45,360 unanswered I still don't know what it 649 00:15:42,270 --> 00:15:48,270 was as a pilot and a former Air Force 651 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,010 officer I can definitively say that this 653 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:51,330 craft did not resemble any man-made 655 00:15:50,010 --> 00:15:53,700 object that I'd ever seen 657 00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:54,960 well I now know that I'm not alone in 659 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:56,580 witnessing something extraordinary 661 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,180 that's the bottom line 663 00:15:56,580 --> 00:16:02,580 there are many high ranking military 665 00:15:59,180 --> 00:16:04,140 aviation and government officials many 667 00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:07,530 of whom are here today and share my 669 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:09,680 concerns some of them have truly 671 00:16:07,530 --> 00:16:12,690 exceptional stories to tell 673 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,450 hundreds of people saw a majestic 675 00:16:12,690 --> 00:16:17,900 triangular craft with a span of 677 00:16:15,450 --> 00:16:21,959 approximately hundred and twenty feet 679 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:24,990 powerful beaming spotlights moving very 681 00:16:21,959 --> 00:16:28,560 slowly without making any significant 683 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:30,210 noise but in several cases accelerating 685 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,079 to very high speeds 687 00:16:30,210 --> 00:16:35,980 [Music] 689 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:39,309 physical traces on the ground from the 691 00:16:35,980 --> 00:16:43,600 craft were confirmed by the local policy 693 00:16:39,309 --> 00:16:47,379 the official conclusion of Japan in 1979 695 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:51,429 was that about 15 percent of the cases 697 00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:56,259 remained unidentified after careful 699 00:16:51,429 --> 00:16:59,100 analysis by our experts who entonces que 701 00:16:56,259 --> 00:17:02,949 me hacer que hacen Metro de la hito ni 703 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:06,069 uno de Metro diametre estaba como es mal 705 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:09,250 Tod o una coupla devil or crema sobre 707 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:12,250 una vez a Metallica ante a circular no 709 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:15,640 tenia motors misshapen event Ana's me 711 00:17:12,250 --> 00:17:18,339 Allah's o antennas car asya de todos los 713 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,819 implementer stiphu code un avión ECU 715 00:17:18,339 --> 00:17:23,980 sistema visible de propulsion 717 00:17:20,819 --> 00:17:26,079 lamentablemente el tema relacionado el 719 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:27,909 oso venus se encuentran we contaminate 721 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:33,279 Oh yo noon importante ganti de 723 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:35,799 información falsi multi UFO sightings 725 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:38,289 turned out to be misidentifications of 727 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,950 things such as aircraft satellites and 729 00:17:38,289 --> 00:17:42,639 meteors 731 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:49,450 but in around 5% of cases no explanation 733 00:17:42,639 --> 00:17:52,240 could be found Washington DC is no 735 00:17:49,450 --> 00:17:54,490 stranger to this story these sausage be 737 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,250 some kind of a secret weapon of ours no 739 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:58,929 if they were air material command to be 741 00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:00,789 the first to know how about a device 743 00:17:58,929 --> 00:18:04,650 from a foreign country we know they're 745 00:18:00,789 --> 00:18:07,900 not what is your opinion colonel 747 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:10,600 [Music] 749 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:12,880 the US air force's involvement with UFOs 751 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,590 started back in World War two when 753 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,760 pilots reported being followed by 755 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:20,870 luminous orbs there were nicknamed Foo 757 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,270 Fighters 759 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:28,850 by 1947 flying saucer sightings were 761 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:31,500 getting national coverage they pull like 763 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:32,940 ironically like a like a saucer what if 765 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:35,790 it if you have skipped it across the 767 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:38,190 water according to this memo titled 769 00:18:35,790 --> 00:18:40,770 opinion concerning flying discs by 771 00:18:38,190 --> 00:18:42,900 general Nathan twining the phenomenon 773 00:18:40,770 --> 00:18:48,059 reported is something real and not 775 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:52,620 visionary or fictitious it just come up 777 00:18:48,059 --> 00:18:56,480 like that and tipped and just on they 779 00:18:52,620 --> 00:18:59,270 really wet it didn't have no smoke no 781 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,650 motor just to win 783 00:18:59,270 --> 00:19:02,650 [Music] 785 00:19:04,860 --> 00:19:07,810 it went fast 787 00:19:06,570 --> 00:19:10,090 [Music] 789 00:19:07,810 --> 00:19:13,090 I've never seen anything go so fast in 791 00:19:10,090 --> 00:19:17,140 my life as that thing went yeah 793 00:19:13,090 --> 00:19:20,140 the sightings over Washington in July 795 00:19:17,140 --> 00:19:23,200 1952 were just part of one of the 797 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:26,290 biggest and most impressive UFO waves in 799 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,930 all UFO history this incident was 801 00:19:26,290 --> 00:19:32,170 witnessed by the public military pilots 803 00:19:28,930 --> 00:19:35,200 in air traffic control pilots went aloft 805 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:36,220 they saw luminous glowing object out in 807 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,890 front of them right where the radar 809 00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:41,770 indicated it to be so you had ground 811 00:19:38,890 --> 00:19:44,800 radar airborne radar and pilots visual 813 00:19:41,770 --> 00:19:46,420 sightings look magazine reported that 815 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,200 radar operators at Washington National 817 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:53,110 Airport tracked UFOs it speeds up to 819 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:56,320 7,000 miles per hour I am here to 821 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:58,240 discuss the so-called flying saucer 823 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,520 Major General Sanford who was a director 825 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,200 of information of the air force called a 827 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,540 press conference which was characterized 829 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,100 at the time as being the largest press 831 00:20:04,540 --> 00:20:09,090 conference since World War two 833 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:12,160 the airport's interest in this problem 835 00:20:09,090 --> 00:20:15,060 then due to our feeling of an obligation 837 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,340 to identify 839 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:20,310 and analyze to the best of our ability 841 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:22,980 anything in the air that may have the 843 00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:25,800 possibility of threat or menace to the 845 00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:28,610 United States there have been a certain 847 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,840 percentage of this volume of reports 849 00:20:28,610 --> 00:20:33,990 that have been made by credible 851 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:39,180 observers of relatively incredible 853 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:42,900 things this group of observations that 855 00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:45,540 we now are attempting to resolve the 857 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:47,760 Joint Chiefs of Staff talk to you or 859 00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:49,440 concern you a Bakke and unknown again I 861 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,390 gonna buy flying out of it oh yes we 863 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,580 discussed it with every conference that 865 00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:55,650 we had with the military and they never 867 00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:57,930 had been and never were able to make me 869 00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:58,800 a concrete report on you have not take 871 00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:02,280 something there 873 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:05,070 no I am anything on subjective there's 875 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,180 always things like that going on at 877 00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:08,630 flying saucers 879 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:10,950 they were senior Air Force generals 881 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:13,440 convinced that we had interplanetary 883 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:15,270 visitors and they were setting the 885 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,290 policy and they were behind the Life 887 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:20,640 magazine article of I believe April 1952 889 00:21:18,290 --> 00:21:26,280 which was titled do we have 891 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:28,890 interplanetary visitors they read the 893 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,570 story the answer obviously was yes with 895 00:21:28,890 --> 00:21:30,930 the cooperation of the United States Air 897 00:21:30,570 --> 00:21:33,210 Force 899 00:21:30,930 --> 00:21:36,030 Life magazine conducted an exhaustive 901 00:21:33,210 --> 00:21:39,600 one-year study out of a number of 903 00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:42,120 conclusions this one caught my eye no 905 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,980 power plant known or projected on earth 907 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,730 could account for the performance of 909 00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:46,730 these devices 911 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,769 $6.00 hoes is a journalist and a 913 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:56,240 qualified pilot he saw what he believed 915 00:21:52,769 --> 00:21:59,490 to be a flying frosted flight from 917 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:02,279 Winnipeg to Vancouver and jet aircraft 919 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:04,259 so we're very high above 37,000 feet 921 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:07,740 coming up on the Mount this brought 923 00:22:04,259 --> 00:22:09,690 sunset this unexplained light was or a 925 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:12,330 disc-shaped object was down in the 927 00:22:09,690 --> 00:22:16,619 darkness so I just have never full of 929 00:22:12,330 --> 00:22:18,600 camera with me we took the picture in my 931 00:22:16,619 --> 00:22:20,429 opinion I think they were worried that 933 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,320 they were panic the public if they 935 00:22:20,429 --> 00:22:24,509 needed someone had vehicles that had 937 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:28,200 this kind of performance way back right 939 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:33,440 after World War two period of time they 941 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:35,850 started telling lies dr. J Allen Hynek 943 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,490 investigated UFOs for the United States 945 00:22:35,850 --> 00:22:41,200 Air Force for over 22 years 947 00:22:39,490 --> 00:22:43,799 the most well-known of these 949 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,500 investigations was Project Blue Book 951 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:50,289 where media is not in this 1979 953 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:52,690 interview dr. Hynek revealed why the Air 955 00:22:50,289 --> 00:22:55,419 Force changed its public position they 957 00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:59,200 were strongly guided by the CIA because 959 00:22:55,419 --> 00:23:01,690 the CIA was not concerned so much with 961 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,730 UFOs as they were with UFO reports they 963 00:23:01,690 --> 00:23:05,770 were afraid actually that if another 965 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:09,520 nation water perpetrated another Pearl 967 00:23:05,770 --> 00:23:11,559 Harbor that if their agents spawned a 969 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,149 bunch of false flying saucer stories 971 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:16,409 that might clog the military worse has 973 00:23:13,149 --> 00:23:18,760 actually happened in 1952 so they 975 00:23:16,409 --> 00:23:20,320 devised the so-called Robertson man 977 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,870 which I was an associate member at the 979 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,970 time a very prestigious panel I was one 981 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:27,159 of the lower ranking ones they had Nobel 983 00:23:24,970 --> 00:23:31,270 Prize winners and whatnot on it but 985 00:23:27,159 --> 00:23:33,370 anyway they handed down the dictum which 987 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:36,279 then became sort of the unwritten law of 989 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:38,590 the Air Force don't rock the boat play 991 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:40,899 it down clean it don't get the public 993 00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:43,090 excited what is your answer the people 995 00:23:40,899 --> 00:23:45,070 who are sure there are spaceships and 997 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:46,779 they serve at you and the Air Force are 999 00:23:45,070 --> 00:23:48,580 in cahoots well first of all this 1001 00:23:46,779 --> 00:23:50,830 business about being in cahoots suggest 1003 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:53,860 simply a downright false but I know 1005 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:57,399 having been in Blue Book for nearly 20 1007 00:23:53,860 --> 00:24:00,010 years that whenever an interesting case 1009 00:23:57,399 --> 00:24:02,320 came up the very last thing in the world 1011 00:24:00,010 --> 00:24:04,000 they would do is to notify the media and 1013 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,279 when the media themselves found out 1015 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,380 something therefore did its best to play 1017 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:12,659 it out it's called it a balloon called 1019 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:16,210 it in the star called booms meteors 1021 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:20,169 satellites aircraft seen the Sun 1023 00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:23,770 glinting off of them and the birds are 1025 00:24:20,169 --> 00:24:25,419 critics continually charged that the 1027 00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:27,520 earth of air force is withholding 1029 00:24:25,419 --> 00:24:28,860 information from the general public on 1031 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,570 this subject 1033 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:33,980 this is absolutely untrue 1035 00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:35,960 there's nothing in the records which 1037 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:38,659 would indicate that we have been visited 1039 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,429 by any advanced civilization there's 1041 00:24:38,659 --> 00:24:41,289 nothing to have there's nothing to hide 1043 00:24:40,429 --> 00:24:44,929 at all 1045 00:24:41,289 --> 00:24:47,299 but if reports of flying saucers are 1047 00:24:44,929 --> 00:24:50,659 nothing new when it got to the top of 1049 00:24:47,299 --> 00:24:53,539 the trees it stopped looking around yet 1051 00:24:50,659 --> 00:24:56,059 residents of the area saw it the police 1053 00:24:53,539 --> 00:24:57,649 saw it sergeant Newell Snyder of the 1055 00:24:56,059 --> 00:24:59,929 Sheriff's Office remembered it was 1057 00:24:57,649 --> 00:25:02,480 enough to draw what do you think it was 1059 00:24:59,929 --> 00:25:05,299 off they called a flying saucer that's 1061 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,639 what I did the Air Force that is chief 1063 00:25:05,299 --> 00:25:10,039 scientific consultant on UFOs professor 1065 00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:12,529 J Allen Hynek to check the Michigan 1067 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:14,870 Fighting's a little bit of swamp right 1069 00:25:12,529 --> 00:25:16,789 appears here it goes out another one 1071 00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:19,309 appears over here that goes out and 1073 00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:20,990 empathy illusion as you from a distance 1075 00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:24,080 is that the object to move back and 1077 00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:26,600 forth the citizens of Michigan didn't 1079 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:30,889 buy it and asked then congressman Gerald 1081 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:33,110 Ford to investigate Georgia what about 1083 00:25:30,889 --> 00:25:34,669 flying saucers you had found in Michigan 1085 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:36,919 the past week 1087 00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:38,539 you really believe in flying saucers you 1089 00:25:36,919 --> 00:25:42,259 fought with congressional investigation 1091 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:45,679 Dave we've had several incidents in 1093 00:25:42,259 --> 00:25:49,909 Michigan in the last week our incident 1095 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:54,080 that many reliable good citizens felt 1097 00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:56,840 were sufficient to justify some action 1099 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,789 by our government and not the kind of 1101 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,929 flippant answer that was given by the 1103 00:25:58,789 --> 00:26:06,799 Air Force where they pass it off as a 1105 00:26:01,929 --> 00:26:08,929 stopgap this is not an attack on the air 1107 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:12,620 force spokesman or the project spokesman 1109 00:26:08,929 --> 00:26:14,990 they are simply following orders to 1111 00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:16,669 explain away all UFO sightings as 1113 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:20,130 quickly as possible when they become 1115 00:26:16,669 --> 00:26:22,919 public and deny that you 1117 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:24,960 really a good scientists were being 1119 00:26:22,919 --> 00:26:27,630 misled even as the public was being 1121 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,970 mislead to this day or scientists have 1123 00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:32,130 no inkling of the serious hardcore 1125 00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:35,010 elements because now it's all treated 1127 00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:36,750 like a tabloid subject are you sorry now 1129 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:40,140 that you did tell people what you saw 1131 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:41,940 yes I am I'm sorry because it not that 1133 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:43,830 it's not the truth but it's just the 1135 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:46,830 idea the reaction of the people they 1137 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:48,809 think you're a nut tell you the truth 1139 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:50,039 that's just what they figure you are and 1141 00:26:48,809 --> 00:26:52,049 I'm not going to take my I don't want 1143 00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:54,960 nobody down in here I just leave me 1145 00:26:52,049 --> 00:26:57,240 alone and if it's the thing lands like 1147 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,950 the motor that I pump I'd never say a 1149 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:03,840 word ten years ago in 1969 they closed 1151 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:06,870 Blue Book and I thought for a while that 1153 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,510 maybe well maybe this was finally going 1155 00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:13,289 to be over but since that time we've had 1157 00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:14,760 about 25,000 more UFO reports many of 1159 00:27:13,289 --> 00:27:16,140 the hundreds of people reporting the 1161 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,190 sightings believe they've all seen the 1163 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:23,210 same object it's called the Hudson 1165 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:23,210 Valley UFO 1167 00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:26,609 [Music] 1169 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:32,860 not quite well I'll be talking to tell 1171 00:27:31,270 --> 00:27:36,160 you something funny I don't know what 1173 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:38,080 the hell it is it moved in a very 1175 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,430 straight line very slowly 1177 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:46,240 there was absolutely no noise there was 1179 00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:47,880 not a sound and it moved smoothly very 1181 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,620 smoothly it looked like it was floating 1183 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,790 it was silent it was hovering 1185 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:58,540 I mean airplanes can hover do you 1187 00:27:54,790 --> 00:28:00,580 believe those first I know sir how do 1189 00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:01,960 you know that you're not being used how 1191 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:11,020 do you know that you know the full story 1193 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:12,700 way my name is Gary Tuchman with CNN and 1195 00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:14,710 this questions for the governor and mr. 1197 00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:16,360 Callahan this really is a government 1199 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:17,980 that doesn't mind scaring us 1201 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:20,080 we still have orange alerts and red 1203 00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:22,240 alerts and they scare us all the time it 1205 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,150 keeps people at work so I'm wondering 1207 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,070 why you think and you just state that 1209 00:28:25,150 --> 00:28:28,540 that's the reason and that's it is that 1211 00:28:27,070 --> 00:28:31,750 really the motivation for a government 1213 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:34,240 that doesn't mind scaring us if these 1215 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:37,240 phenomena are as technologically 1217 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,770 advanced as they appear to be then one 1219 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,680 could say that we're completely 1221 00:28:38,770 --> 00:28:43,600 vulnerable as a civilization and that's 1223 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,120 to some people that might be horrifying 1225 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,010 and I'm just speculating on that that 1227 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,150 feeling of vulnerability and so a lot of 1229 00:28:48,010 --> 00:28:50,500 people like to say well you know we're 1231 00:28:49,150 --> 00:28:52,570 not vulnerable that's just not true that 1233 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:54,000 didn't happen and they shot it out of 1235 00:28:52,570 --> 00:28:59,460 their minds 1237 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,460 [Music] 1239 00:28:59,510 --> 00:29:04,470 right under something I know well well 1241 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,190 we could do a little raffle table 1243 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:10,770 introduction then you know because you 1245 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:14,400 know few of us have only just met and 1247 00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:16,230 things like that yeah they already have 1249 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,770 extensive you could after the program 1251 00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:20,430 last evening they did the survey on the 1253 00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:22,410 Internet 1255 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:25,020 and they asked people do you believe in 1257 00:29:22,410 --> 00:29:26,880 UFOs what were the results seventy-five 1259 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:37,200 or eighty percent eighty eighty three 1261 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:38,540 percent yes have a chance you open guys 1263 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,270 are all here we were talking about 1265 00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:43,800 someone said to be here for six thirty 1267 00:29:41,270 --> 00:29:45,570 six thirty is the right time you had a 1269 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,490 crater like melanomas here yes I came 1271 00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:49,590 back no and with your night before our 1273 00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:52,020 big event at the National Press Club we 1275 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:54,540 all met for dinner said one of the 1277 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:56,610 people I spoke to his meteorological 1279 00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:59,820 office my dream was coming true 1281 00:29:56,610 --> 00:30:02,040 here I was surrounded by credible people 1283 00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:04,440 who are about to share incredible 1285 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,190 stories so these are reliable witnesses 1287 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,760 yeah 1289 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:12,050 there were generals pilots physicists 1291 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,580 and FAA official an Air Force colonel 1293 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:16,740 I'd never been in a room full of so many 1295 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:23,220 people of this caliber comfortably 1297 00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:25,320 talking about the existence of UFOs we 1299 00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:26,970 were enjoying our time together it was 1301 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,340 remarkable how everyone had something 1303 00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:31,350 extraordinary in common there was a 1305 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:33,720 mutual understanding and I got some 1307 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:35,220 answers to some big questions why did 1309 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,680 the French government do what they did 1311 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:42,120 by releasing the UFO FILES just recently 1313 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:45,060 it took 15 years to convince to do 1315 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,370 something despite the public position of 1317 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:49,440 the US government 1319 00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:51,510 somebody whether it was on an official 1321 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,870 or a sort of back channel basis but 1323 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:56,910 somebody most definitely was looking 1325 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:58,950 into the UFO phenomenon if you're not 1327 00:30:56,910 --> 00:31:01,000 capable to identify whatever flies 1329 00:30:58,950 --> 00:31:03,490 around 1331 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,690 there is something wrong could you say 1333 00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:06,490 something very quickly one of the things 1335 00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:08,140 I always remember you talking about was 1337 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:10,300 when you'd be at a cocktail party and 1339 00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:12,400 the subject would come up with UFOs and 1341 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:14,710 you sat with one on the ground for 45 1343 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,950 minutes and you'd bite your tongue what 1345 00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:19,570 was that like it was difficult but you 1347 00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:22,120 know in some ways there was some kind of 1349 00:31:19,570 --> 00:31:25,360 satisfaction involved there and they're 1351 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:30,040 talking about stuff that what if and I 1353 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:33,700 knew my name is James Penniston United 1355 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,260 States Air Force retired in 1980 I was 1357 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:38,290 assigned to the largest Tactical Fighter 1359 00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:40,300 Wing in the Air Force at the time is I 1361 00:31:38,290 --> 00:31:42,820 was stationed at RAF Woodbridge England 1363 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:44,730 shortly after midnight on the 26th of 1365 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:47,830 December 1980 1367 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:50,680 Staff Sergeant Stefan's briefed me that 1369 00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:55,510 some lights were seen in Rendlesham 1371 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:58,330 forest just outside the back gate he 1373 00:31:55,510 --> 00:32:02,590 informed me that whatever he seen didn't 1375 00:31:58,330 --> 00:32:06,040 crash he told me it landed I then 1377 00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:09,480 ordered Airmen Caban Zak a1c burles 1379 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:12,760 to respond with me off site that night 1381 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,130 we were on security one which was in 1383 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,690 charge of mobile security for the 1385 00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:22,090 Woodbridge base and we responded to 1387 00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:24,460 jimbros his sighting of something out on 1389 00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:26,800 the edge of the flight line well the 1391 00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:28,390 controller on the radio broadcast over 1393 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,120 the air that go down and check out a 1395 00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:33,340 possible UFO there was a craft of some 1397 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:38,019 sort that was 1399 00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:40,480 sitting just inside the tree line we 1401 00:32:38,019 --> 00:32:42,940 arrived to defected crash site it 1403 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,669 quickly became apparent that we were not 1405 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:47,590 dealing with a plane crash or for that 1407 00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:49,570 matter anything else we've ever 1409 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:51,580 responded to Burroughs would say to Jim 1411 00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:53,740 Penniston do you see that you see do you 1413 00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:56,019 see what's out there at that the edge of 1415 00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:58,960 the trees was just bright lights you 1417 00:32:56,019 --> 00:33:00,519 know and the only way you can describe 1419 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,710 it is it I guess you'd call it an object 1421 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:05,619 at the point in time three of us direct 1423 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:07,269 observation of the craft I then asked 1425 00:33:05,619 --> 00:33:09,159 the airman commands act to relate the 1427 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:12,190 radio transmissions back to our control 1429 00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:14,289 center Burroughs and I proceeded towards 1431 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:16,299 the craft the only noise we heard out in 1433 00:33:14,289 --> 00:33:18,039 the woods was the noise of the animals 1435 00:33:16,299 --> 00:33:19,869 just as burles and I entered the 1437 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:23,289 treeline the shape of the craft was 1439 00:33:19,869 --> 00:33:25,360 defined the closer we got the more the 1441 00:33:23,289 --> 00:33:28,990 white light dissipated but what appeared 1443 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:33,129 was a trying of craft when we approached 1445 00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:38,710 it it was oh I say measured probably 1447 00:33:33,129 --> 00:33:41,200 about nine feet long maybe six feet high 1449 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:41,740 little higher mate maybe six and a half 1451 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840 feet 1453 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:45,940 the lighting emanated from the fabric of 1455 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,559 the craft and it would actually move 1457 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:49,840 around and it would move you'd have 1459 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,860 different locations where maybe a little 1461 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,010 blue lighting was going into 1463 00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:56,929 maybe lower red and then there must have 1465 00:33:55,010 --> 00:33:59,630 been some type of lighting underneath of 1467 00:33:56,929 --> 00:34:03,559 it because it's silhouetted the aircraft 1469 00:33:59,630 --> 00:34:05,540 itself I went around and started doing a 1471 00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:08,300 360 walk around the area taking 1473 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:10,310 recording my observations I was looking 1475 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:13,220 underneath the craft like that I had 1477 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:18,560 taken quite detailed notes on that type 1479 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:23,060 of aircraft still unknown no apparent 1481 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:25,730 landing gear no sound but appears to be 1483 00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:28,429 pulsating somehow yeah it was pretty 1485 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:29,720 nerve-wracking I mean when you're there 1487 00:34:28,429 --> 00:34:30,710 something there right in front of you 1489 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:33,530 don't know what it is 1491 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:36,590 I would go ahead and feel the craft 1493 00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:40,159 which was warm there was static 1495 00:34:36,590 --> 00:34:42,590 electricity in the air very warm to 1497 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:45,350 touch identifying markings are on left 1499 00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:49,190 front side as I came around to the one 1501 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:53,990 side of the craft there was edging on 1503 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:56,389 the face meet just above the center part 1505 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:57,859 of the craft itself of course this is 1507 00:34:56,389 --> 00:35:00,560 done all freehand as I was walking 1509 00:34:57,859 --> 00:35:02,780 around the craft but these symbols ran 1511 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,910 from left to right across and then 1513 00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:09,109 underneath the those that line of 1515 00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:10,760 symbols was this which is triangular and 1517 00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:13,340 some type of circle here is some type of 1519 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,220 circle here in a larger circle here and 1521 00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:21,170 of course all this was filled in with 1523 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:22,880 the like the etching part of it I was 1525 00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:27,560 curious about the symbols that Jim 1527 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,420 Penniston copied in his logbook I had 1529 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,880 these symbols enlarged and then showed 1531 00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:34,880 him to cryptologist mathematician George 1533 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,130 deglet I wanted to know if he had any 1535 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,460 ideas as to what they might mean the 1537 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:43,550 first symbol looks to me like a vessel 1539 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:46,550 with a steering or a float in some sort 1541 00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:50,240 of medium the second symbol looks like a 1543 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:52,850 glyph associated with a mathematical 1545 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:57,440 idea known as the fiber nachi series 1547 00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:58,819 which is found everywhere in nature and 1549 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,979 this is what we have here 1551 00:35:58,819 --> 00:36:05,839 the root of a fiber now g-series 1 2 & 3 1553 00:36:03,979 --> 00:36:08,719 taken as a house rather clever glyph 1555 00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:11,390 all-in-one mr. dag was stressed that 1557 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,400 this was only speculation but I found 1559 00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:15,890 his interpretations quite interesting 1561 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,749 especially since I've always heard that 1563 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:20,390 the only universal language would be 1565 00:36:17,749 --> 00:36:23,709 mathematics from that game so this is 1567 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:27,259 the last clip and how did you decipher 1569 00:36:23,709 --> 00:36:31,819 this they could represent an apse in an 1571 00:36:27,259 --> 00:36:35,859 orbit a perigee or an Apogee and if they 1573 00:36:31,819 --> 00:36:39,169 are APS's Apogee and perigee as it means 1575 00:36:35,859 --> 00:36:44,089 that the orbiter is doing a highly 1577 00:36:39,169 --> 00:36:46,069 processive orbit like that so if you are 1579 00:36:44,089 --> 00:36:49,009 going to survey a planet and this is an 1581 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:50,839 orbiter which would be a very sensible 1583 00:36:49,009 --> 00:36:52,849 arrangement if you were using the 1585 00:36:50,839 --> 00:36:55,869 vehicle as a surveying vehicle because 1587 00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:57,890 you get a maximum look at the planning I 1589 00:36:55,869 --> 00:36:59,719 don't think they were trying to send us 1591 00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:02,150 a metaphysical measures about the beauty 1593 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,349 of life on the partner what the reason 1595 00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:05,509 for the universe or anything like that 1597 00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:09,289 or their own existence I think it's just 1599 00:37:05,509 --> 00:37:13,009 more utilitarian marking so they knew 1601 00:37:09,289 --> 00:37:16,059 what craft they were dealing with I knew 1603 00:37:13,009 --> 00:37:17,610 that that craft could not have been made 1605 00:37:16,059 --> 00:37:21,369 by man 1607 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:21,369 [Music] 1609 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:30,030 and then they started moving back in 1611 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:33,560 between the trees with absolutely no 1613 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:37,520 sound no air disturbance at all takeoff 1615 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:40,230 unknown Street and I write impossible I 1617 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,180 mean it was threatening to Mia but it 1619 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:43,920 wasn't the type that you were going to 1621 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:45,870 shoot on it and also the fact was that 1623 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,380 what would happen if I would have shot 1625 00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:50,970 at him 1627 00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:56,250 boy what good would it have done that 1629 00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:59,850 night over 80 Air Force personnel all 1631 00:37:56,250 --> 00:38:01,770 trained observers assigned to the 81st 1633 00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:05,250 security police squadron witnessed the 1635 00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:06,930 takeoff the information acquired during 1637 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:09,990 that investigation was reported through 1639 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:12,030 my military channels the team and 1641 00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:16,550 witnesses were told to treat the 1643 00:38:12,030 --> 00:38:20,609 investigation as top-secret thank 1645 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:20,609 [Applause] 1647 00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:25,890 as the deputy base commander Colonel 1649 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Charles halt was in charge of the 1651 00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:31,680 investigation when he too became a 1653 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,599 witness in late December 1980 I was 1655 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,880 called upon to investigate a very 1657 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,650 strange event an event that was 1659 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,930 distracting our security police from 1661 00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:41,910 their primary duties I believe that he 1663 00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:44,040 would have debunked the whole situation 1665 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:46,619 and I think he got in the middle of a 1667 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,270 situation he could explain either two 1669 00:38:46,619 --> 00:38:50,849 nights later at the family Christmas 1671 00:38:48,270 --> 00:38:53,490 party I was interrupted by the on-duty 1673 00:38:50,849 --> 00:38:57,780 police commander he told of strange 1675 00:38:53,490 --> 00:39:00,210 events and said it was back since my 1677 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:02,670 boss had to present Awards I was tasked 1679 00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:05,970 to go out and investigate I fully 1681 00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:07,680 expected to find an explanation during 1683 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:09,210 this entire event I was fortunate to 1685 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,410 have with me and my small pocket 1687 00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:12,210 recorder of the little engine what 1689 00:39:10,410 --> 00:39:15,140 you're about to hear are excerpts from 1691 00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:18,030 the original recording made that night 1693 00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:21,140 after some time strange my throat right 1695 00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:23,210 a hair show I saw y'all attention too 1697 00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:25,829 weird 1699 00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:28,200 now we've got an object out raised 1701 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:31,200 directly saw trees on the rise it lifts 1703 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,740 and once another movement or two and 1705 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,740 away from us 1707 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:44,000 oh here he comes from the side he's 1709 00:39:42,170 --> 00:39:47,030 coming toward us now one approach to 1711 00:39:44,000 --> 00:40:00,560 very high speed and sent on a strange 1713 00:39:47,030 --> 00:40:02,630 beam right at our feet another object 1715 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,210 sent down beams alight into the weapons 1717 00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:06,920 storage area the whole time we had 1719 00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:09,350 difficulty communicating with the base 1721 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:13,460 as all three radio frequencies we were 1723 00:40:09,350 --> 00:40:15,380 using kept breaking up I have no idea 1725 00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:17,000 what we saw that night but I do know 1727 00:40:15,380 --> 00:40:24,500 with great certainty it was under 1729 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:26,600 intelligent control five star Admiral 1731 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:28,760 Lord Hill Norton had been pressuring 1733 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,520 Parliament to provide clear answers on 1735 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,670 this case I wanted to know if he 1737 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,220 believed a UFO actually landed at a u.s. 1739 00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:39,350 airbase in England that is one 1741 00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:42,580 explanation that it actually happened as 1743 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:47,300 Colonel Holt reported the other 1745 00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:50,570 explanation is that it didn't and in 1747 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:53,030 that case one is bound to assume that 1749 00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:56,540 Colonel Holt and all his men were 1751 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:58,910 hallucinating the British Ministry of 1753 00:40:56,540 --> 00:41:01,790 Defense's position is that nothing of 1755 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:04,040 any defence interest took place this 1757 00:41:01,790 --> 00:41:08,270 position was strongly criticized by the 1759 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:12,110 Admiral that the kernel of a an American 1761 00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:14,750 Air Force Base in Suffolk and his Merry 1763 00:41:12,110 --> 00:41:18,050 Men are hallucinating when there are 1765 00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:21,230 nuclear armed aircraft on the base must 1767 00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:23,990 be of Defence interest if indeed what he 1769 00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:26,330 says took place did take place and why 1771 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:30,770 on earth should he make it up then 1773 00:41:26,330 --> 00:41:34,100 surely the entry of a vehicle from outer 1775 00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:37,130 space certainly not man-made to a 1777 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:40,820 defence base in this country also cannot 1779 00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:41,930 fail to be of Defence interest outside 1781 00:41:40,820 --> 00:41:44,630 the Parliament building 1783 00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:46,490 I met with Nick Pope he investigated 1785 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:49,780 UFOs officially for the British 1787 00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:53,560 government I reopened the case 1789 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:57,070 and conducted a sort of cold case review 1791 00:41:53,560 --> 00:42:00,130 of the original investigation and I was 1793 00:41:57,070 --> 00:42:02,440 shocked to find a series of basic errors 1795 00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:04,630 had been committed exactly the same 1797 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,020 sorts of errors that often fatally 1799 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:09,609 undermine a police investigation Nick 1801 00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:11,500 Pope shared with me some startling 1803 00:42:09,609 --> 00:42:14,140 evidence from the Ministry of Defense's 1805 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:16,780 files this is one of the most important 1807 00:42:14,140 --> 00:42:19,480 documents to emerged from the mo DS case 1809 00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:23,050 files and it's from an assistant 1811 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:25,630 director in di 52 this is their 1813 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:27,849 assessment of the radiation readings 1815 00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:31,540 that Colonel halt and his team took at 1817 00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:33,810 the landing site what we have here is a 1819 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:36,220 plaster cast of one of the three 1821 00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:37,930 indentations the object the gym and the 1823 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,550 other two magenta line approached it's 1825 00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:43,000 approximately eight to ten inches across 1827 00:42:39,550 --> 00:42:46,180 and about three inches deep at its 1829 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,220 maximum point this is a cast number - he 1831 00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:50,010 made an impression of all three of the 1833 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:54,570 indentations and they were all identical 1835 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:56,650 now here's the key bit these levels seem 1837 00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:59,890 significantly higher than the average 1839 00:42:56,650 --> 00:43:01,420 background and in fact I double-check 1841 00:42:59,890 --> 00:43:04,390 this with some other government 1843 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:07,990 scientists it's about eight times normal 1845 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:11,140 so this is absolute proof positive from 1847 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:15,359 the mo deez own documentation that 1849 00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:15,359 something extraordinary happened 1851 00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:25,950 back in America I arranged a meeting 1853 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:28,319 between Colonel halt and sergeant nevels 1855 00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:33,089 one of the men who is with them that 1857 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:36,029 night Oh sir are you doing today it's 1859 00:43:33,089 --> 00:43:38,369 been a long time oh these men shared an 1861 00:43:36,029 --> 00:43:40,529 extraordinary experience one that 1863 00:43:38,369 --> 00:43:42,660 puzzles them to this day yeah well I'm a 1865 00:43:40,529 --> 00:43:44,369 bit but I'll make it I was glad to have 1867 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:47,700 brought them together after 28 years 1869 00:43:44,369 --> 00:43:48,809 yeah if you've been there done that it's 1871 00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,880 a whole lot different when those 1873 00:43:48,809 --> 00:43:54,390 skeptics did we sometimes run around 1875 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,059 with and they can't believe us and a lot 1877 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:58,769 of the other people that were involved 1879 00:43:56,059 --> 00:44:00,210 especially Penniston and Burroughs and 1881 00:43:58,769 --> 00:44:02,160 all have had all kinds of complications 1883 00:44:00,210 --> 00:44:03,690 and career problems I did too 1885 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:09,960 Penniston retired as a tech sergeant 1887 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:12,239 probably should have made chief step by 1889 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,700 step Colonel Holt and Sergeant nevels 1891 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,729 went over what happened that night 1893 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:18,769 yes fry that ass bad girl it's coming 1895 00:44:17,729 --> 00:44:21,599 this way 1897 00:44:18,769 --> 00:44:26,069 coming this way what was going on right 1899 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:28,079 there it was Caprona us yep no way of 1901 00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:30,359 calculating how fast it was going it was 1903 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:32,640 just gone it turns were 90-degree turns 1905 00:44:30,359 --> 00:44:37,529 they were just abrupt right and there is 1907 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:41,160 no way no way that anything we had in 1909 00:44:37,529 --> 00:44:44,069 technology then and I don't believe the 1911 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,559 technology we have today would allow 1913 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:49,890 anything that we saw to make the turns 1915 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:52,049 the way they turned we met with General 1917 00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:54,630 Gordon Williams the Wing Commander of 1919 00:44:52,049 --> 00:44:57,989 the entire base he would neither confirm 1921 00:44:54,630 --> 00:45:00,079 nor deny the incident he did however 1923 00:44:57,989 --> 00:45:02,400 tell us how he felt about a leaked memo 1925 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:05,249 written by Deputy base commander Colonel 1927 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,229 Charles halt that went under the door 1929 00:45:05,249 --> 00:45:09,269 and I didn't see it now did he have a 1931 00:45:07,229 --> 00:45:10,890 motivation and doing that did he think 1933 00:45:09,269 --> 00:45:13,049 that if he brought it in to me I would 1935 00:45:10,890 --> 00:45:14,400 have stepped on it I certainly would 1937 00:45:13,049 --> 00:45:16,680 have looked at it very carefully because 1939 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,369 it had some things in there that I don't 1941 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,079 think we were prepared to defend once 1943 00:45:20,369 --> 00:45:23,489 that cat was out of the bag you know I 1945 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:27,539 couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together 1947 00:45:23,489 --> 00:45:29,490 again and it lived its own life I just 1949 00:45:27,539 --> 00:45:31,950 find this very interesting that 1951 00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:33,750 the US air force or government German 1953 00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:35,580 says that they don't investigate UFOs 1955 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:38,130 since the termination of Blue Book and 1957 00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:40,380 yet you're convinced that there was an 1959 00:45:38,130 --> 00:45:42,599 investigation that took place so who 1961 00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:43,859 gave the orders to do that it certainly 1963 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:45,869 didn't come from anybody that was 1965 00:45:43,859 --> 00:45:48,869 normally on the base other than in the 1967 00:45:45,869 --> 00:45:52,460 OSI I didn't tell my wife I didn't tell 1969 00:45:48,869 --> 00:45:57,200 my daughter I had a top secret clearance 1971 00:45:52,460 --> 00:45:57,200 and when I was told to shut up I shut up 1973 00:45:57,340 --> 00:46:04,330 [Music] 1975 00:46:00,510 --> 00:46:06,690 salut Georgia to do suti my Kokomo skia 1977 00:46:04,330 --> 00:46:09,190 uncorrected a Yahoo magnet esta usted 1979 00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:11,790 smooches ah it can smoke your daughter 1981 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:15,790 simulation concoction yup goes along 1983 00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:19,060 what I'm about to tell you is about your 1985 00:46:15,790 --> 00:46:20,200 vent that never happened for an event 1987 00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:23,230 that never happened 1989 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,970 FAA official John Callahan certainly has 1991 00:46:23,230 --> 00:46:27,339 a lot of evidence they brought the voice 1993 00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:29,200 tapes he kept audio recordings between 1995 00:46:27,339 --> 00:46:32,290 the cockpit and the tower as the 1997 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,280 incident unfolded he has 30 minutes of 1999 00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:38,109 taped radar that confirms the UFO a 2001 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,680 chart that documents all the objects in 2003 00:46:38,109 --> 00:46:44,619 the 747s flight path and the official 2005 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:47,109 FAA report event that never happened 2007 00:46:44,619 --> 00:46:49,180 according to Callahan all of this was 2009 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:51,010 presented to the CIA in a private 2011 00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:53,589 meeting when the pilot first reported 2013 00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:55,060 the UFO he described it as a huge ball 2015 00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:57,310 with lights running around that he said 2017 00:46:55,060 --> 00:47:00,099 it was about four times bigger than the 2019 00:46:57,310 --> 00:47:02,380 747 he was riding and remember the 747 2021 00:47:00,099 --> 00:47:04,089 has an elevator and he's looking out the 2023 00:47:02,380 --> 00:47:06,820 window when he see something that's four 2025 00:47:04,089 --> 00:47:08,619 times the size of his aircraft what 2027 00:47:06,820 --> 00:47:10,810 you're about to see and here are 2029 00:47:08,619 --> 00:47:13,180 excerpts from the actual radar and 2031 00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:15,780 cockpit conversations as the incident 2033 00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:15,780 unfolded 2035 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,310 Oh 2037 00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:28,489 [Applause] 2039 00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:43,470 six-month edition 2041 00:47:44,590 --> 00:47:47,590 16:20 2043 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:29,610 20 seconds so one time he says it's over 2045 00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:31,770 here at 12 o'clock in 8 miles and when 2047 00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:36,150 the antenna goes by we see a target 2049 00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:36,630 there 10 seconds later it is now behind 2051 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:39,480 them 2053 00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:42,780 6 7 miles behind so what's going from 2055 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,760 from 8 miles out here to set to 7 miles 2057 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:46,980 back here really only five to six 2059 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,960 seconds when I went back to headquarters 2061 00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:51,030 I gave Admiral England a quick briefing 2063 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,500 and showed him the video he set up a 2065 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:55,050 briefing with the President Reagan's 2067 00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:58,050 scientific staff told me my function was 2069 00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:59,850 to hand this operation off to those 2071 00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:02,100 people those people ended up being the 2073 00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:06,450 CIA the president's group a bunch of 2075 00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:10,890 grunts that came to the meeting the CIA 2077 00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:15,950 said to all the people who have this 2079 00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:20,030 event never happened we were never here 2081 00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:22,940 and you're all sworn to secrecy 2083 00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:26,040 we are confiscating all this data and 2085 00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:27,510 they did they took everything that was 2087 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,190 in the room in those days when you 2089 00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:31,620 printed out something from the computer 2091 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:33,720 fortunately he kept copies of everything 2093 00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:36,570 back in his office that's the end of my 2095 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:40,550 speech are you going to believe your 2097 00:49:36,570 --> 00:49:40,550 lying eyes oh the government 2099 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:50,330 [Applause] 2101 00:49:48,310 --> 00:49:53,300 well how do you feel about your husband 2103 00:49:50,330 --> 00:49:56,180 coming coming forward well I think that 2105 00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:59,240 that's John John is comfortable in what 2107 00:49:56,180 --> 00:50:02,060 he says and what he does and that if he 2109 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:04,190 what he sees he will tell what he sees 2111 00:50:02,060 --> 00:50:06,770 and I don't think anybody is going to 2113 00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:09,320 tell him that he can't and I'm proud of 2115 00:50:06,770 --> 00:50:12,400 it I think he does a good job and he's 2117 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,400 telling the world what you know 2119 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:17,610 one of our greatest success stories was 2121 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,400 getting general Jafari from Iran to DC 2123 00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:23,340 it took three months of negotiations to 2125 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,650 get his visa Jafari was one of two 2127 00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:28,320 Iranian fighter pilots ordered to 2129 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:33,690 intercept a UFO hovering over Tehran 2131 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:37,150 Iran in 1976 the pilot in the first jet 2133 00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:38,480 last instrumentation and communication 2135 00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:41,780 [Music] 2137 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:47,280 when he got too close to the brilliant 2139 00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:49,740 object so he headed back about ten 2141 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:54,660 minutes later they scrambled a second 2143 00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:57,120 jet which I was piloting general Jafari 2145 00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:59,540 scrambled his f4 phantom jet to get a 2147 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,540 closer look 2149 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,180 he gave us this Iranian Air Force 2151 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:15,010 reenactment film featuring the original 2153 00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:17,320 witnesses and planes even though Jafar 2155 00:51:15,010 --> 00:51:19,450 EES f-4 fighter jet was travelling at 2157 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:23,200 the speed of sound it was nowhere near 2159 00:51:19,450 --> 00:51:27,850 fast enough imagine when I was looking 2161 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:32,220 here at about 70 miles out and he jumps 2163 00:51:27,850 --> 00:51:36,370 all of a sudden ten degrees to my right 2165 00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:39,420 in this angle ten degrees this part 2167 00:51:36,370 --> 00:51:43,240 which it was traveling becomes about 2169 00:51:39,420 --> 00:51:47,590 twenty six point seven miles per moment 2171 00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:51,340 I don't say per second maybe maybe less 2173 00:51:47,590 --> 00:51:53,770 than a second nobody showed Jafari was 2175 00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:55,780 flying towards the UFO when a smaller 2177 00:51:53,770 --> 00:52:00,460 object separated from it and headed 2179 00:51:55,780 --> 00:52:03,640 right at him his only instinct was to 2181 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:06,420 shoot at it but that turned out to be a 2183 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,420 bad idea 2185 00:52:06,970 --> 00:52:13,590 [Music] 2187 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:17,940 all the instrument reflecting the 2189 00:52:13,590 --> 00:52:21,780 goggles in the radio so I was really 2191 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:24,960 frightened so I decided to turn away and 2193 00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:27,660 I said if it comes closer than about 2195 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,700 four minds I will jump out 2197 00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:32,550 so having maneuvered away from the 2199 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:35,010 object Jaffar his control panel returned 2201 00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:37,170 to normal and he regained contact with 2203 00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:39,600 the tower I just sort of mysterious 2205 00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:41,430 understood G&G correspond polish on 2207 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:46,890 bikini shot of ambition is I'm off and I 2209 00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:48,930 feel in the cave yet despite the United 2211 00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:51,090 States government's claim that they have 2213 00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:54,300 not investigated UFOs since the close in 2215 00:52:51,090 --> 00:52:57,770 a project Bluebook in 1969 this defense 2217 00:52:54,300 --> 00:53:02,220 intelligence agency report made in 1976 2219 00:52:57,770 --> 00:53:06,080 indicates otherwise it was obtained 2221 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:06,080 through the Freedom of Information Act 2223 00:53:08,130 --> 00:53:12,069 so you think the reason why they're not 2225 00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:15,640 telling us is because they can't trust 2227 00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:19,329 them or they can't trust and the second 2229 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:25,779 one maybe as I said they don't want 2231 00:53:19,329 --> 00:53:27,640 people to be panic and we don't take 2233 00:53:25,779 --> 00:53:29,049 sides on 360 we like to present you with 2235 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,369 facts and information from different 2237 00:53:29,049 --> 00:53:32,289 angles and let you make up your own 2239 00:53:30,369 --> 00:53:34,150 minds about things that's particularly 2241 00:53:32,289 --> 00:53:35,469 true with mysteries and for many 2243 00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:37,869 Americans there's no mystery greater 2245 00:53:35,469 --> 00:53:39,940 than UFOs James Fox helped organize 2247 00:53:37,869 --> 00:53:41,799 today's UFO related event in Washington 2249 00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:43,809 he joins me now along with astronomer 2251 00:53:41,799 --> 00:53:45,369 former Air Force pilot and skeptic James 2253 00:53:43,809 --> 00:53:45,849 McGee hey thanks for being with us both 2255 00:53:45,369 --> 00:53:47,799 of you 2257 00:53:45,849 --> 00:53:48,849 why should what this panel is calling 2259 00:53:47,799 --> 00:53:50,170 for essentially it's some sort of 2261 00:53:48,849 --> 00:53:52,150 government investigation about why 2263 00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:54,160 shouldn't there be further investigation 2265 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:55,749 well there have been investigation it 2267 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,279 was we'll hang on a second let me just 2269 00:53:55,749 --> 00:53:58,930 state this clearly one of the things why 2271 00:53:57,279 --> 00:54:00,849 are we gonna help you keep interrupting 2273 00:53:58,930 --> 00:54:02,199 me sir please one of the things I want 2275 00:54:00,849 --> 00:54:03,999 to mention very quickly is that the 2277 00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:05,859 official position for the Air Force is 2279 00:54:03,999 --> 00:54:08,140 that they terminated Project Blue Book 2281 00:54:05,859 --> 00:54:10,209 in 1969 as there have been no official 2283 00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:12,039 investigation since then however we 2285 00:54:10,209 --> 00:54:14,289 found evidence to suggest the contrary 2287 00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:16,420 on a number of cases in Tehran the 2289 00:54:14,289 --> 00:54:18,099 general said the Americans were making 2291 00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:20,380 discreet inquiries about the case that 2293 00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:22,059 excuse me there as well as Bentwaters 2295 00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:23,709 England the colonel said that the OSI 2297 00:54:22,059 --> 00:54:24,789 came in investigated that so you believe 2299 00:54:23,709 --> 00:54:26,319 there in areas you government 2301 00:54:24,789 --> 00:54:27,549 investigation going on you just wanted 2303 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:30,609 what they're making this they're making 2305 00:54:27,549 --> 00:54:34,239 discreet inquiries unofficially yes well 2307 00:54:30,609 --> 00:54:37,209 UFOs are basically a modern space-age 2309 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:41,319 mythology it's a it's a conspiracy 2311 00:54:37,209 --> 00:54:42,789 wrapped and superstition and myth where 2313 00:54:41,319 --> 00:54:45,699 does this superstition and myth come 2315 00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:47,289 from and how could it be so pervasive 2317 00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:49,599 within a few months of the original 2319 00:54:47,289 --> 00:54:52,780 saucer report practically everyone in 2321 00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:55,899 America was conscious of flying saucers 2323 00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:55,899 [Music] 2325 00:54:58,289 --> 00:55:07,029 though did you see a UFO I did and the 2327 00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:09,010 rest of the account oh I didn't I it was 2329 00:55:07,029 --> 00:55:12,549 unidentified flying object okay it's 2331 00:55:09,010 --> 00:55:14,740 like and and and so wait got to be 2333 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:17,019 kidding and then I would say where was 2335 00:55:14,740 --> 00:55:20,049 it what did it look like what were you 2337 00:55:17,019 --> 00:55:22,029 doing how much had you had what it saw 2339 00:55:20,049 --> 00:55:24,910 it it was probably some sort of some 2341 00:55:22,029 --> 00:55:26,470 other satellite or a fast-moving 2343 00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:27,099 airplane that they saw I wouldn't 2345 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:28,869 believe them 2347 00:55:27,099 --> 00:55:31,660 I mean I know there's been sightings 2349 00:55:28,869 --> 00:55:35,019 random I'm not well documented well Jay 2351 00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:37,390 Leno once asked if these UFOs s cursory 2353 00:55:35,019 --> 00:55:38,740 skills are so highly evolved how come it 2355 00:55:37,390 --> 00:55:47,890 is that they only address people named 2357 00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:50,950 Bubba well taken special ladies and 2359 00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:54,490 gentlemen good morning my name is Wilson 2361 00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:56,829 de Brouwer I'm a retired major down of 2363 00:55:54,490 --> 00:56:00,700 the budget Air Force and I was chief 2365 00:55:56,829 --> 00:56:03,160 operations in the air staff at the time 2367 00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:06,160 that an exceptional UFO wave could 2369 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:11,109 basically budge the nature of the 2371 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:15,460 sighting was such that people identify a 2373 00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:22,630 large triangular platform with very 2375 00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:27,309 intensive spotlights also hovering being 2377 00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:30,059 static at a certain moment being able to 2379 00:56:27,309 --> 00:56:32,619 fly at very low speeds and done 2381 00:56:30,059 --> 00:56:35,260 accelerating to very high speeds and 2383 00:56:32,619 --> 00:56:40,580 seconds 2385 00:56:35,260 --> 00:56:45,000 in addition these objects didn't make 2387 00:56:40,580 --> 00:56:51,220 any noise was only a humming noise 2389 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:54,340 [Music] 2391 00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:58,359 were there ever any any inquiries from 2393 00:56:54,340 --> 00:57:00,849 the American government to the Belgian 2395 00:56:58,359 --> 00:57:01,570 Air Force regarding a identified flying 2397 00:57:00,849 --> 00:57:05,500 object 2399 00:57:01,570 --> 00:57:07,570 yes while some informal inquiries but 2401 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:13,990 nothing formed I would have liked to see 2403 00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:16,960 a formal request but some people came to 2405 00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:19,030 my office and asked about this 2407 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:23,200 phenomenon and also what we thought 2409 00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:26,140 about it and asked to have a copy of a 2411 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:30,580 video which was taken by one of the 2413 00:57:26,140 --> 00:57:35,050 aircraft which try to intercept one of 2415 00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:37,300 these objects and I said yes you can 2417 00:57:35,050 --> 00:57:38,730 have a copy providing this a formal 2419 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:42,530 request 2421 00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:42,530 and we never received a formal request 2423 00:57:45,950 --> 00:57:52,740 high five for forage I do have a primary 2425 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,440 contact now good morning everybody thank 2427 00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:58,260 you for coming this morning my name is 2429 00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:01,950 Ray Berea and I fly a civilian airliner 2431 00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:04,920 as Captain I've been invited here at due 2433 00:58:01,950 --> 00:58:06,930 to my sighting last April of multiple as 2435 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,490 yet unidentified objects over the 2437 00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:09,480 Channel Islands region of the English 2439 00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:12,200 Channel 2441 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,700 [Music] 2443 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,619 thanks for joining us pilots and 2445 00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:19,289 aircraft passengers have confirmed 2447 00:58:16,619 --> 00:58:22,260 sightings of a large unidentified flying 2449 00:58:19,289 --> 00:58:24,450 object off the coast of Guernsey the 2451 00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:27,000 mysterious shapes were spotted earlier 2453 00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:29,460 in the week and to describe as a long 2455 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:38,520 motionless object that measured up to a 2457 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:42,600 mile wide before that message you say 2459 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:43,760 how far but I find twelve o'clock level 2461 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:49,370 [Music] 2463 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:51,220 so I've got a very bright object well 2465 00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:54,770 to help our friendly bright 2467 00:58:51,220 --> 00:58:56,870 yellow-orange object straight ahead a 2469 00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:57,920 very flat platform independent triple 2471 00:58:56,870 --> 00:59:00,950 oculus as we speak 2473 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:03,980 high five for forage I do have a primary 2475 00:59:00,950 --> 00:59:05,570 contact now very playing primary contact 2477 00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:08,600 just the left from see your 11 o'clock 2479 00:59:05,570 --> 00:59:12,620 this time and range of about the four 2481 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:16,750 channels definitely contact my swirl 2483 00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:20,570 before very bright yellow object looking 2485 00:59:16,750 --> 00:59:23,450 well she gone 2487 00:59:20,570 --> 00:59:26,290 dirty blooded a 3-2 zone asked us to 2489 00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:28,760 look if we could see an object which is 2491 00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:29,570 being feed by a line at the moment we've 2493 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,620 got something about eight o'clock 2495 00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:36,160 resembling with the scripture and 818 2497 00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:38,810 Roger what range of just may not volume 2499 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:42,530 round about the similar range to Albany 2501 00:59:38,810 --> 00:59:44,960 for Liza well if we put off as I am now 2503 00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:48,100 there's a second one just appeared 2505 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,970 middle and the first one from where I am 2507 00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:53,000 butterfly forwards confirming their 2509 00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:55,420 water patches can see this aircraft from 2511 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,010 the Arnhem visual dead ahead 2513 00:59:55,420 --> 01:00:00,590 transfer how far probably five miles we 2515 00:59:58,010 --> 01:00:03,350 stay on the same size comes to be often 2517 01:00:00,590 --> 01:00:06,710 in north north northwest coast of 2519 01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:10,760 opening a line 5/4 or did you like 2521 01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:13,040 descent please American go down five 2523 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:16,880 four four just sent off to two thousand 2525 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,290 feet in qhs on 31 10 2001 through two 2527 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:24,130 wonderfully flames asleep where I'm 2529 01:00:18,290 --> 01:00:27,080 without any buffers were you scared I 2531 01:00:24,130 --> 01:00:30,940 wasn't too happy why it's quite glad to 2533 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,940 get on the ground and have a cup of tea 2535 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:37,400 we flew to Guernsey an island off the 2537 01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:39,470 northwest coast of France to get some 2539 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,990 first-hand testimony where the sighting 2541 01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:44,510 took place here 2543 01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:46,250 we met with captain ray Bowyer and two 2545 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:48,289 of his passengers we're traveling back 2547 01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:54,230 from Southampton to - or Denis in 2549 01:00:48,289 --> 01:00:55,819 innatron under I had noticed ray looking 2551 01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:58,039 out through the windscreen with his 2553 01:00:55,819 --> 01:00:59,990 binoculars which is quite unusual I saw 2555 01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:01,789 ray turn around and talked to someone 2557 01:00:59,990 --> 01:01:03,650 behind him while we were flying 2559 01:01:01,789 --> 01:01:05,839 no it wasn't whirring from the 2561 01:01:03,650 --> 01:01:09,109 standpoint of flying but it was unusual 2563 01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:11,450 and he was gesturing to something down 2565 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:14,089 below or nearing the objects a second 2567 01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:17,029 identical shape appeared beyond the 2569 01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:20,440 first both objects were of a flattened 2571 01:01:17,029 --> 01:01:22,640 disc shape with a dark area to the right 2573 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,640 they were brilliant yellow with light 2575 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:27,440 emanating from with him and I submitted 2577 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:31,010 them to be up to possibly a mile across 2579 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:34,819 I pointed it out to John he had to lean 2581 01:01:31,010 --> 01:01:38,569 across me to be able to see it it was it 2583 01:01:34,819 --> 01:01:42,349 was like that this is a big object in 2585 01:01:38,569 --> 01:01:43,730 the sky very very big object and I 2587 01:01:42,349 --> 01:01:45,140 didn't want to be too close to it so 2589 01:01:43,730 --> 01:01:48,470 there's at that time anyway where we had 2591 01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:50,569 to descend the land and with both 2593 01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:51,589 objects still visible and a lot of the 2595 01:01:50,569 --> 01:01:53,720 passengers in the back of the aircraft 2597 01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:56,619 we descended through the two thousand 2599 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:59,210 foot Hazen layer and lost sight of it 2601 01:01:56,619 --> 01:02:00,500 so ray why didn't you bring this to the 2603 01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:01,849 attention of your passengers I mean 2605 01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:03,740 normally when a private seat something a 2607 01:02:01,849 --> 01:02:08,559 bit of interest he says if you look at 2609 01:02:03,740 --> 01:02:11,299 to your left you'll see New York a 2611 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:13,549 little bit away far away from you well 2613 01:02:11,299 --> 01:02:16,130 it was some I did want to alarm anybody 2615 01:02:13,549 --> 01:02:17,660 at that point there again as we got 2617 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,930 closer to these objects there was no 2619 01:02:17,660 --> 01:02:25,800 hiding it they were just there 2621 01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:25,800 [Music] 2623 01:02:29,950 --> 01:02:34,720 I take a note of some of the differences 2625 01:02:31,810 --> 01:02:35,349 between the British and the US reporting 2627 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,599 system 2629 01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:39,910 it appears that attitudes on opposite 2631 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:41,800 sides of the Atlantic are very different 2633 01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:44,260 when it comes to the required reporting 2635 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,390 and recording of this type of event I 2637 01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:48,730 would have been shocked if I was told 2639 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:51,490 that the CAA in UK would obstruct an 2641 01:02:48,730 --> 01:02:52,930 investigation or the CAA told me that 2643 01:02:51,490 --> 01:02:55,210 what I had seen was something entirely 2645 01:02:52,930 --> 01:02:56,800 different but it seems that pilots in 2647 01:02:55,210 --> 01:03:03,400 America are used to this sort of thing 2649 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:05,410 here I returned home from Guernsey to 2651 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,260 find a DVD sent to me from Salida 2653 01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:10,510 Colorado listen carefully to the 2655 01:03:08,260 --> 01:03:21,579 six-year-old girl who points out a UFO 2657 01:03:10,510 --> 01:03:23,770 to her dad I'm not sure what the sounds 2659 01:03:21,579 --> 01:03:27,070 are but the object reminds me of what 2661 01:03:23,770 --> 01:03:28,450 rain is past news described seen it 2663 01:03:27,070 --> 01:03:31,390 moved over that part of sky there 2665 01:03:28,450 --> 01:03:34,300 probably moved five hundred it probably 2667 01:03:31,390 --> 01:03:36,900 moved 100 miles in a matter of a second 2669 01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:36,900 or two 2671 01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:49,770 you see that now so big he gone they say 2673 01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:50,830 but you can't think I can't see the 2675 01:03:49,770 --> 01:04:07,929 disease 2677 01:03:50,830 --> 01:04:07,929 [Music] 2679 01:04:10,670 --> 01:04:17,610 good morning my neck my name is Josh 2681 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:23,190 Homme de Burgh I am a retired Air Force 2683 01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:27,530 captain during Air France flight 35 what 2685 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:32,430 we do from these to London on 28 January 2687 01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:35,850 1994 I observed with my crew a UFO in 2689 01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:39,990 broad daylight near Paris and it looked 2691 01:04:35,850 --> 01:04:44,370 like this with a bank angle of 45 2693 01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:48,980 degrees it seemed to be a huge flying 2695 01:04:44,370 --> 01:04:55,710 disc it stabilized and stopped moving 2697 01:04:48,980 --> 01:04:58,740 but it was about 1,000 feet wide the 2699 01:04:55,710 --> 01:05:01,470 most incredible expected is that it 2701 01:04:58,740 --> 01:05:04,460 became transparent and disappeared in 2703 01:05:01,470 --> 01:05:08,760 about 10 to 20 seconds 2705 01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:12,180 my co-pilot chef Jared and I quickly 2707 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:15,360 realized that what we were seeing did 2709 01:05:12,180 --> 01:05:18,210 not resemble anything known to us and we 2711 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:25,410 reported our sighting to Russ traffic 2713 01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:28,110 control there is a crew of three percent 2715 01:05:25,410 --> 01:05:30,630 plus by the correlation at the same time 2717 01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:32,430 not the same place at the same time and 2719 01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:37,100 that means that we have had something 2721 01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:37,100 real over price one day huge thing 2723 01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:43,080 good evening last week several people in 2725 01:05:40,620 --> 01:05:46,020 Stephenville Texas a small rural town of 2727 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:48,240 about 15,000 70 miles southwest of Fort 2729 01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:51,180 Worth witnessed what many are calling a 2731 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,590 UFO James Fox I know you've been probing 2733 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:54,150 this for a long time we've never got an 2735 01:05:52,590 --> 01:05:56,760 answer to this why do you think the Air 2737 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:58,380 Force doesn't want this out well I mean 2739 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,270 what are they going to say we don't know 2741 01:05:58,380 --> 01:06:02,280 what's flying around in our airspace 2743 01:06:00,270 --> 01:06:04,680 with it why can't why can't they say 2745 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,300 that I think that possibly could I wish 2747 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,680 they would and if the Air Force is 2749 01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,830 listening tonight why don't you tell us 2751 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,830 the truth 2753 01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:23,970 well I came in on Tuesday night a week 2755 01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:27,180 and a half ago started down driveway and 2757 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:29,730 I looked back here to the southwest just 2759 01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:32,250 past the windmill so I'd say maybe five 2761 01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,560 miles away there was a real bright light 2763 01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:37,620 came on it is almost as bright as like a 2765 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,570 welding arc one of the guys that was at 2767 01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:41,670 my house that night called up and said 2769 01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:43,770 he wasn't coming back to my house until 2771 01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:45,540 we got armed guards and I said why is 2773 01:06:43,770 --> 01:06:48,000 that he said well there was a UFO flew 2775 01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:53,540 over your house Tuesday night I said I 2777 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:57,480 saw it I was so distracted by what I saw 2779 01:06:53,540 --> 01:06:59,430 that you could have had you could had a 2781 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,900 train go in front of me and I would 2783 01:06:59,430 --> 01:07:02,880 probably hurt it because I was so 2785 01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:04,830 focused on these lights but I do not 2787 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:09,110 remember hearing any noise at all to it 2789 01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:09,110 how would you describe the acceleration 2791 01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:15,720 probably the the speed of light and I 2793 01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:19,050 tried keeping that with my binoculars I 2795 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:23,460 couldn't this case so far qualifies for 2797 01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:25,950 that 5% lack of sound the speed of the 2799 01:07:23,460 --> 01:07:27,780 object and apparently the military's 2801 01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:30,330 interest we're two Jets coming from that 2803 01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:32,010 direction this way and I did hear the 2805 01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:35,040 Jets you know we're used to seeing 2807 01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:37,260 military aircraft in our skies here in 2809 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,910 this area we're used to seeing you know 2811 01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:40,680 the helicopters and the fighter jets and 2813 01:07:38,910 --> 01:07:42,600 the c-130s and I mean we know what those 2815 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,280 look like by the way so when it comes to 2817 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:48,870 military aircraft I am a trained 2819 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:51,900 observer so well that's opposed whatever 2821 01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:54,120 that baits are why don't we take another 2823 01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:56,790 break here we're visiting with James Fox 2825 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:59,220 filmmaker in in town doing research on 2827 01:07:56,790 --> 01:08:00,660 the the UFOs and interviews we'll take a 2829 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:03,120 break we're back right after this 2831 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:05,910 good evening everyone welcome to Dublin 2833 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,600 in Dublin the whole town showed up to 2835 01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:09,640 discuss this sighting 2837 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,020 my name is Steve Hudgens I'm senior 2839 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,700 field investigator for MUFON 2841 01:08:11,020 --> 01:08:14,860 we're down here to investigate this 2843 01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:16,330 extraordinary event it was going so fast 2845 01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:18,280 and didn't make any noise 2847 01:08:16,330 --> 01:08:20,290 that light seemed to be streaming and 2849 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,030 breaking around it then ten minutes 2851 01:08:20,290 --> 01:08:23,799 later it came back by and that's when it 2853 01:08:22,030 --> 01:08:26,530 had the two military jets chasing it 2855 01:08:23,799 --> 01:08:28,960 I've been a witness to this and give you 2857 01:08:26,530 --> 01:08:30,819 all the information I can you don't want 2859 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,710 to come forward and say anything because 2861 01:08:30,819 --> 01:08:34,990 they'll say oh they're an idiot because 2863 01:08:32,710 --> 01:08:35,589 I've thought that before until I saw 2865 01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:37,600 this 2867 01:08:35,589 --> 01:08:40,150 I guarantee the jet whoever was flying 2869 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,900 the jets they had a visual on it it was 2871 01:08:40,150 --> 01:08:43,420 incredible 2873 01:08:40,900 --> 01:08:44,980 I listened to many witnesses and then 2875 01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:47,200 went to the editors of the local paper 2877 01:08:44,980 --> 01:08:48,910 for this story first broke lines I mean 2879 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,400 these are all headlines Angela Joyner 2881 01:08:48,910 --> 01:08:54,040 saw me on CNN the night before and 2883 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:57,730 assumed I had all the answers 2885 01:08:54,040 --> 01:09:01,390 major Carl Lewis at Carswell I've talked 2887 01:08:57,730 --> 01:09:04,510 to him a lot and he said something of 2889 01:09:01,390 --> 01:09:07,690 this size would leave a sonic footprint 2891 01:09:04,510 --> 01:09:11,890 much like what we know as a tornado path 2893 01:09:07,690 --> 01:09:15,580 it would just demolish things on the 2895 01:09:11,890 --> 01:09:23,650 ground why why don't we see that I have 2897 01:09:15,580 --> 01:09:27,040 no idea Angela and local radio station 2899 01:09:23,650 --> 01:09:29,680 mandatory FM introduced me to Ricky saw 2901 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,690 Rose we had a drink at the local bar 2903 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,420 where he agreed to meet with me the 2905 01:09:31,690 --> 01:09:36,220 following day aircraft in the area they 2907 01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:38,470 wouldn't normally be flying they told me 2909 01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:40,160 that Ricky had seen a lot more than 2911 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:43,300 lights in the sky 2913 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:45,740 that we called that don't you know I 2915 01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:47,570 used to thank the people that saw this 2917 01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:50,510 and came on camera and said this house 2919 01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:53,570 stuff I thought man these guys need some 2921 01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:56,570 help you know but it happened to me and 2923 01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:59,420 I can't change that I had a hard time 2925 01:09:56,570 --> 01:10:00,590 dealing with it mother she looked at all 2927 01:09:59,420 --> 01:10:03,080 the way that direction you didn't see me 2929 01:10:00,590 --> 01:10:05,630 looking up Ricky said he could not see 2931 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,220 the edge of the craft in any direction 2933 01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:08,720 you couldn't see the edge of it couldn't 2935 01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:09,830 say they're there but I didn't know this 2937 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,290 it's bigger 2939 01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:16,160 you killed landed an airplane on that I 2941 01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:19,220 boy God can grab my story nothing no 2943 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:21,770 sound no one was hovering nothing when 2945 01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:24,680 it moved from left to right and nothing 2947 01:10:21,770 --> 01:10:26,930 when it took off and holding his rifle 2949 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,900 and sometimes actually looking through 2951 01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:31,670 his scope Ricky stood under the craft 2953 01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:33,410 for about three minutes 2955 01:10:31,670 --> 01:10:37,580 oh if you've been in that situation but 2957 01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:40,520 no I've been very few times in my life 2959 01:10:37,580 --> 01:10:42,890 but I had to slow my mind down to 2961 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,480 actually think about what to do with the 2963 01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:47,990 information that I was receiving for the 2965 01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:51,550 first time and that's what I did I 2967 01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:56,780 studied it you know I seen no nuts bolts 2969 01:10:51,550 --> 01:11:00,950 rivets seams no welds none of this it 2971 01:10:56,780 --> 01:11:05,070 looked like a piece of sheet metal you 2973 01:11:00,950 --> 01:11:07,140 know it wasn't shiny it was a dull 2975 01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:11,300 don't know what you call it matte finish 2977 01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:14,610 me this is what I had a hard time with 2979 01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:18,210 was if something wants to leave in my 2981 01:11:14,610 --> 01:11:21,630 mind it should give it up and go like an 2983 01:11:18,210 --> 01:11:25,050 airplane would this did not do that this 2985 01:11:21,630 --> 01:11:28,290 day completely flapped and it went at a 2987 01:11:25,050 --> 01:11:30,840 45 degree angle or what and it took off 2989 01:11:28,290 --> 01:11:32,310 is such a high rate of speed that no one 2991 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,800 described it as if I would have blinked 2993 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:40,170 I would have thought it just disappear 2995 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:42,390 on January 21st 2008 Robert Powell and 2997 01:11:40,170 --> 01:11:46,230 Glen Schultz received radar data from 2999 01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:50,670 the FAA this image was created directly 3001 01:11:46,230 --> 01:11:52,740 from that data each black dot and there 3003 01:11:50,670 --> 01:11:54,810 were over a hundred and forty represent 3005 01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:57,390 radar confirmation of an unknown object 3007 01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:59,040 whose flight path is seen heading 3009 01:11:57,390 --> 01:12:02,110 towards Crawford ranch 3011 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,599 [Music] 3013 01:12:02,110 --> 01:12:08,320 I just want to know what it is you know 3015 01:12:04,599 --> 01:12:11,639 why why was it here what was it 3017 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:14,139 is it ours you know I kind of think 3019 01:12:11,639 --> 01:12:16,179 although the military initially denied 3021 01:12:14,139 --> 01:12:18,940 being in the area the official 3023 01:12:16,179 --> 01:12:22,989 explanation from the Air Force is now a 3025 01:12:18,940 --> 01:12:25,869 flight of f-16s after each witness I 3027 01:12:22,989 --> 01:12:28,210 meet I find it increasingly difficult to 3029 01:12:25,869 --> 01:12:30,760 accept the military's response I've 3031 01:12:28,210 --> 01:12:33,940 actually stepped back and tried to be 3033 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:36,880 the big picture I would like to find out 3035 01:12:33,940 --> 01:12:40,440 what it is then if people believe me 3037 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,440 okay if they don't that's okay too 3039 01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:46,690 t-minus 15 seconds and counting 3041 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:48,849 mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper was the 3043 01:12:46,690 --> 01:12:52,630 last American astronaut to go up in 3045 01:12:48,849 --> 01:12:58,000 space alone he orbited the planet 22 3047 01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:58,599 times while stationed at Edwards Air 3049 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,719 Force Base 3051 01:12:58,599 --> 01:13:04,679 in the early 1950s Cooper was part of an 3053 01:13:01,719 --> 01:13:07,540 event that has never been explained I 3055 01:13:04,679 --> 01:13:10,110 was having some the cameraman found the 3057 01:13:07,540 --> 01:13:12,639 installation of a precision landing 3059 01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:15,909 facility we were putting him out into 3061 01:13:12,639 --> 01:13:18,130 the dry lake and the saucer flew right 3063 01:13:15,909 --> 01:13:20,550 over him and put down three little gear 3065 01:13:18,130 --> 01:13:23,170 and landing out on the dry lake bed 3067 01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:26,180 [Music] 3069 01:13:23,170 --> 01:13:29,630 and they went out pick up their cameras 3071 01:13:26,180 --> 01:13:31,970 and moved on out partying filming and he 3073 01:13:29,630 --> 01:13:34,850 left it off put the gear back in the 3075 01:13:31,970 --> 01:13:38,630 well climbed out a very high rate of 3077 01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:40,520 speed disappearing the time he got back 3079 01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:42,350 with the developed film I was on the 3081 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,470 higher and higher and higher level 3083 01:13:42,350 --> 01:13:48,980 officer coffees gonna be anyway the 3085 01:13:45,470 --> 01:13:51,080 colonel telling me do you know when the 3087 01:13:48,980 --> 01:13:52,880 film arrived at my desk to put it in the 3089 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,040 carrier pouch there would be occurred 3091 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:58,340 there at my office by that time already 3093 01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:00,320 and they'd arranged for him to fly in 3095 01:13:58,340 --> 01:14:04,720 our base airplane back to Washington 3097 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:07,580 with these films and did not run prints 3099 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:10,580 etc etcetera etcetera do you watch the 3101 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:12,500 tool we didn't have a chance to run it I 3103 01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:15,320 had a chance to hold it up to the wind 3105 01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:17,270 and look at it there's certainly good 3107 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,920 found did you would keep in touch with 3109 01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:20,890 anybody buddy to discuss how would I 3111 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,540 keep in touch with anybody about it 3113 01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:25,040 there's no way within the military or 3115 01:14:23,540 --> 01:14:27,320 within the government of keeping track 3117 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,120 or something that is classified 3119 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:32,060 unless you're directly involved in it 3121 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:34,190 and I was not this meeting was a turning 3123 01:14:32,060 --> 01:14:36,950 point for my father Gordon Cooper was an 3125 01:14:34,190 --> 01:14:39,740 icon of his generation and my father was 3127 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:41,300 amazed by his story at that point in 3129 01:14:39,740 --> 01:14:44,300 time there are no doubt in my mind that 3131 01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:54,470 this vehicle was made at some other 3133 01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:57,920 place than here on earth yeah well Buck 3135 01:14:54,470 --> 01:15:00,140 Rogers and Flash Gordon coming her after 3137 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:03,760 the film was sent to Washington it was 3139 01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:03,760 never seen or heard of again 3141 01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:12,710 Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell was 3143 01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:15,110 the sixth man to walk on the moon 3145 01:15:12,710 --> 01:15:16,910 he has met with people in military and 3147 01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:18,950 government positions from several 3149 01:15:16,910 --> 01:15:22,090 countries who have privately shared with 3151 01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:26,360 him information about UFOs seem to be 3153 01:15:22,090 --> 01:15:29,660 well documented events that represent 3155 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:32,030 flying craft that do not match anything 3157 01:15:29,660 --> 01:15:36,050 we have in an Earthbound arsenal 3159 01:15:32,030 --> 01:15:39,500 I felt that dr. Mitchell would know the 3161 01:15:36,050 --> 01:15:41,960 reasons for secrecy why I was told I 3163 01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:44,090 can't answer that question that I think 3165 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:48,530 it's a long past time to open this up to 3167 01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:52,219 the public but the best answer is 3169 01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:54,940 probably because they don't know what to 3171 01:15:52,219 --> 01:15:54,940 do about it in here 3173 01:15:56,380 --> 01:16:00,980 my father and I caught up with President 3175 01:15:59,030 --> 01:16:03,550 Carter at a book signing in San 3177 01:16:00,980 --> 01:16:08,090 Francisco whatever you are following 3179 01:16:03,550 --> 01:16:09,530 what happened to the UFO issue I don't 3181 01:16:08,090 --> 01:16:10,730 really know what happened to it I saw 3183 01:16:09,530 --> 01:16:11,480 one but I don't know what just 3185 01:16:10,730 --> 01:16:13,580 disappeared 3187 01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:15,530 did you ask when you a president with 3189 01:16:13,580 --> 01:16:17,330 yes but there's a lot of different 3191 01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:19,719 answers if nobody does has proof of 3193 01:16:17,330 --> 01:16:19,719 anything 3195 01:16:22,829 --> 01:16:29,579 the question of secrecy has puzzled me 3197 01:16:25,530 --> 01:16:32,309 for years I asked the panelists in DC to 3199 01:16:29,579 --> 01:16:33,960 offer possible explanations some of the 3201 01:16:32,309 --> 01:16:37,429 questions that man on the street have 3203 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:41,699 and whoever wants to address this can is 3205 01:16:37,429 --> 01:16:44,369 why in your opinion would any government 3207 01:16:41,699 --> 01:16:46,500 hide this from the people are not 3209 01:16:44,369 --> 01:16:49,349 disclosed as types of information of 3211 01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:53,130 what's going on when there are witnesses 3213 01:16:49,349 --> 01:16:56,369 or sightings coming in they are varied 3215 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:57,750 elected to do to pick up the issue to 3217 01:16:56,369 --> 01:16:59,190 investigate because they have no 3219 01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:59,940 structure and you don't know how to 3221 01:16:59,190 --> 01:17:02,040 handle it 3223 01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:04,920 since it tsunami NASA yo-dee-hey des 3225 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,619 conocido que no tenia flick a co ESO 3227 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:12,210 podría - MA - ah si sistema 3229 01:17:07,619 --> 01:17:13,920 the conservación de poder I suspect or 3231 01:17:12,210 --> 01:17:15,750 at least five agencies in the US 3233 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:19,099 government that have investigative 3235 01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:22,050 capability and do maintain files on UFOs 3237 01:17:19,099 --> 01:17:24,510 public opinion I think is asking for 3239 01:17:22,050 --> 01:17:27,000 information it is ready to believe that 3241 01:17:24,510 --> 01:17:29,670 there is something serious if we can 3243 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:32,809 convince the government it could change 3245 01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:36,090 [Applause] 3247 01:17:32,809 --> 01:17:38,340 good morning ladies and gentlemen my 3249 01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:41,489 name is jean-claude rim and I am an 3251 01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:43,590 astronomer working for the French 3253 01:17:41,489 --> 01:17:49,079 Sante Nacional de la chef scientific 3255 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:51,929 from 1963 to 1998 I contributed to the 3257 01:17:49,079 --> 01:17:55,040 French committee report a year military 3259 01:17:51,929 --> 01:17:58,800 study on UFOs and national security 3261 01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:02,250 released in 1999 camara translates as 3263 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:04,369 committee for in-depth studies it was in 3265 01:18:02,250 --> 01:18:07,020 essence a high-level think-tank 3267 01:18:04,369 --> 01:18:09,449 committee included such members as 3269 01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:10,590 four-star general Bernard NOLA who was 3271 01:18:09,449 --> 01:18:12,840 the former commander of the french 3273 01:18:10,590 --> 01:18:14,969 tactical air force and military 3275 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:18,300 counselor to the prime minister 3277 01:18:14,969 --> 01:18:19,860 as well as Andre LeBeau former president 3279 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:22,170 of the National Center for Space Studies 3281 01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:24,900 and attorney-at-law 3283 01:18:22,170 --> 01:18:27,929 Michele Algar director of the kinetic 3285 01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:30,989 group the kinetic group published its 3287 01:18:27,929 --> 01:18:33,449 findings in an historical 90 page report 3289 01:18:30,989 --> 01:18:37,380 titled UFOs and defense 3291 01:18:33,449 --> 01:18:39,719 what should we prepare for the formation 3293 01:18:37,380 --> 01:18:42,619 of the kinetic group was initiated by 3295 01:18:39,719 --> 01:18:45,630 French Air Force general Dennis Letty 3297 01:18:42,619 --> 01:18:48,539 kinetic concluded that about 5% of the 3299 01:18:45,630 --> 01:18:50,519 cases studied were inexplicable and that 3301 01:18:48,539 --> 01:18:51,420 the best explanation was what the 3303 01:18:50,519 --> 01:18:55,130 authors called 3305 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:57,500 the extra-terrestrial hypothesis 3307 01:18:55,130 --> 01:18:59,960 with investigative journalist Lesley 3309 01:18:57,500 --> 01:19:03,770 Kane I flew to France to meet general 3311 01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:06,980 Leni we met the general at his home on 3313 01:19:03,770 --> 01:19:09,200 the outskirts of Paris we went over some 3315 01:19:06,980 --> 01:19:11,030 of the more puzzling encounters that led 3317 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:15,290 the group to their conclusions and he 3319 01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:19,130 saw the disc every pilot sightings 3321 01:19:15,290 --> 01:19:21,560 confirmed by radar very quickly I would 3323 01:19:19,130 --> 01:19:23,780 have assigned in cases involving soil 3325 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:26,450 and plant analysis from landing sites 3327 01:19:23,780 --> 01:19:30,020 I had looked into one of these cases 3329 01:19:26,450 --> 01:19:32,600 myself farmer Renato Nicolai from 3331 01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:34,970 TransAm Provence reported that a 3333 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:38,890 disc-shaped object landed in his garden 3335 01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:41,810 in the late afternoon the farmer said de 3337 01:19:38,890 --> 01:19:44,120 Campos into us yet Ruta throat when he 3339 01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:46,690 told his wife she assumed he had heat 3341 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:49,400 stroke and had hallucinate 3343 01:19:46,690 --> 01:19:51,380 however scientific analysis of the 3345 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,570 landing site showed high levels of 3347 01:19:51,380 --> 01:19:56,240 radiation and when I visited the site 3349 01:19:53,570 --> 01:19:58,690 back in 1999 almost 20 years later 3351 01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:04,580 nothing had grown in that spot 3353 01:19:58,690 --> 01:20:07,100 kukuku book would be swap AC the town of 3355 01:20:04,580 --> 01:20:09,080 Charles on Provence label the farmer a 3357 01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:12,260 flying saucer fanatic 3359 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:16,520 yo papa d dkc2 no suki pabulum Turkish 3361 01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:18,890 city if you got Kinshasa you say 3363 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,200 daddy but and what we're looking at I 3365 01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:22,760 mean what is this for this is photo 3367 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:26,360 general Letty also shared with us some 3369 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:28,070 impressive photographic cases not one of 3371 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,230 these was featured on the cover of the 3373 01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:31,520 committee report so his mapping is it 3375 01:20:30,230 --> 01:20:33,950 not happening the ground a pee bag on 3377 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,690 the ground and developing a mapping 3379 01:20:33,950 --> 01:20:38,200 claim from the government of Costa Rica 3381 01:20:35,690 --> 01:20:41,480 was flying at 10,000 feet 3383 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,790 it had a high-resolution camera running 3385 01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:48,050 automatically under the fuselage taking 3387 01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:57,340 a picture every 17 seconds on one of the 3389 01:20:48,050 --> 01:21:00,020 frames this object was captured after 3391 01:20:57,340 --> 01:21:02,210 careful analysis by several scientists 3393 01:21:00,020 --> 01:21:04,430 including Richard Haines and Jacques 3395 01:21:02,210 --> 01:21:06,920 Vallee it was determined that the object 3397 01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:11,360 captured on film was a real 3399 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:12,620 three-dimensional airborne object so do 3401 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,900 you think if it was announced that 3403 01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:16,280 people would panic if the government's 3405 01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:20,110 announced well there are the 3407 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,110 unidentified objects are real ah 3409 01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:29,990 I cannot say yes but I cannot say no I 3411 01:21:27,730 --> 01:21:31,930 asked the general to explain the 3413 01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:35,210 committee reports extra-terrestrial 3415 01:21:31,930 --> 01:21:38,750 hypothesis for us we think that the best 3417 01:21:35,210 --> 01:21:41,230 explanation is that object came from 3419 01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:41,230 outside 3421 01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:48,820 we don't say they come from outside but 3423 01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:53,730 the best explanation 3425 01:21:48,820 --> 01:21:53,730 is the impetus 3427 01:21:55,790 --> 01:22:02,870 in 2007 an investigative branch of CNES 3429 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,790 the French equivalent of NASA made 3431 01:22:02,870 --> 01:22:08,560 sixteen hundred sightings spanning five 3433 01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:08,560 decades available to the public 3435 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:19,250 I asked CNES for an interview I want to 3437 01:22:17,450 --> 01:22:23,450 know who allowed the release of these 3439 01:22:19,250 --> 01:22:27,010 files and why silver president national 3441 01:22:23,450 --> 01:22:30,890 debt especial canto consider decided 3443 01:22:27,010 --> 01:22:34,970 Ramadan would lock seated upon the 3445 01:22:30,890 --> 01:22:37,940 reorganize a donee Commission the 3447 01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:41,600 travail a the Vasant transparent is a 3449 01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:43,840 video public a the media very we 3451 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:47,660 reviewed several extraordinary cases 3453 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:50,830 some even involved landings I asked him 3455 01:22:47,660 --> 01:22:53,060 what his personal beliefs were Chukotka 3457 01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:56,360 problem on to the equivalent of youtube 3459 01:22:53,060 --> 01:22:58,010 potato ado to a stock tank a some 3461 01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:00,950 pretend a DVD the exact estimate 3463 01:22:58,010 --> 01:23:02,540 daughter car from problemo the is 3465 01:23:00,950 --> 01:23:04,480 observers your natural collage from 3467 01:23:02,540 --> 01:23:07,280 going to be huge 3469 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:12,010 it's a say gold can we swap take home 3471 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:15,130 mister like Hong Kong for it hey big job 3473 01:23:12,010 --> 01:23:15,130 good job 3475 01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:26,430 [Music] 3477 01:23:22,020 --> 01:23:28,380 I wanted to know how releasing this 3479 01:23:26,430 --> 01:23:35,900 information might have affected the 3481 01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:39,270 people of France we took to the streets 3483 01:23:35,900 --> 01:23:42,840 did you follow up me required to tweak 3485 01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:46,260 le le fou no sir no sir false key so 3487 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:48,720 posted when I've loved it the data that 3489 01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:50,340 you see a co-receptor people made the 3491 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,130 fall sick would have you out of me a 3493 01:23:50,340 --> 01:24:01,709 knock in your neck off 3495 01:23:52,130 --> 01:24:01,709 [Music] 3497 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:08,870 does he make you scared yeah I'm scared 3499 01:24:07,580 --> 01:24:11,120 too that they're gonna come and they're 3501 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:13,760 gonna be hostile and they're gonna try 3503 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,440 and they can they're gonna hurt us or do 3505 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,910 something to the world do you think 3507 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:18,680 governments know more than what they're 3509 01:24:16,910 --> 01:24:23,690 telling us apart from American 3511 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:29,440 government yeah sqb because up 3513 01:24:23,690 --> 01:24:29,440 over nail you see papa 3515 01:24:40,820 --> 01:24:43,420 um 3517 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,750 so what do you do do you think that the 3519 01:24:46,990 --> 01:24:52,030 British government the mo D is preparing 3521 01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:53,860 for any type of disclosure do you think 3523 01:24:52,030 --> 01:24:56,980 it's just how's it going to happen or is 3525 01:24:53,860 --> 01:24:59,500 it it's not gonna be as I say disclosure 3527 01:24:56,980 --> 01:25:01,510 with a big D we're gonna be disclosure 3529 01:24:59,500 --> 01:25:05,350 with a small D in other words we will be 3531 01:25:01,510 --> 01:25:08,020 releasing the files but in May 2008 the 3533 01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:10,480 British government began the process of 3535 01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:15,040 releasing its entire archive of UFO 3537 01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:16,990 FILES from 1991 through to 1994 I was 3539 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,720 desk officer responsible for these 3541 01:25:16,990 --> 01:25:22,390 investigations these cases included 3543 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:25,000 incidents where reliable witnesses such 3545 01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:27,790 as police officers and pilots reported 3547 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,310 structured craft performing speeds and 3549 01:25:27,790 --> 01:25:32,140 maneuvers significantly in excess of 3551 01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:36,550 anything that they'd seen military jet 3553 01:25:32,140 --> 01:25:38,470 aircraft perform in July of 2009 the 3555 01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:41,020 Ministry of Defence released this 3557 01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:47,700 document it's a briefing regarding the 3559 01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:51,130 mass sighting over England in 1993 in 3561 01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:53,500 summary it states there would seem to be 3563 01:25:51,130 --> 01:25:55,810 some evidence on this occasion that an 3565 01:25:53,500 --> 01:26:00,690 unidentified object or objects of 3567 01:25:55,810 --> 01:26:00,690 unknown origin was operating over the UK 3569 01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:07,400 to the skeptics who say there's no 3571 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,929 evidence I would say this the Ministry 3573 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:12,349 of Defense in the United Kingdom has 3575 01:26:08,929 --> 01:26:14,360 received 10,000 UFO reports since 1950 3577 01:26:12,349 --> 01:26:16,400 not just lights in the sky but 3579 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,559 structured craft sometimes tracked on 3581 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,469 radar but don't take my word for it all 3583 01:26:18,559 --> 01:26:23,329 this can be viewed at the National 3585 01:26:21,469 --> 01:26:26,420 Archives on the Ministry of Defence 3587 01:26:23,329 --> 01:26:30,289 website so the evidence is right out 3589 01:26:26,420 --> 01:26:31,729 there the phenomenon has not changed a 3591 01:26:30,289 --> 01:26:34,550 great deal has not changed materially 3593 01:26:31,729 --> 01:26:36,260 since 1947 and I'm quite sure that 3595 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:38,269 neither we nor the Russians had anything 3597 01:26:36,260 --> 01:26:42,340 like the capabilities demonstrated by 3599 01:26:38,269 --> 01:26:45,320 the UFOs in 47 I don't think we have now 3601 01:26:42,340 --> 01:26:48,229 thousands of witnesses no credible 3603 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:52,460 witnesses which can confirm that indeed 3605 01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:57,099 this au activities which cannot be 3607 01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:57,099 related to terrestrial activities 3609 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,470 they're not aerodynamic there's 3611 01:27:01,340 --> 01:27:06,410 something else and a suspicion is that 3613 01:27:03,470 --> 01:27:07,550 their anti-gravity or some kind of 3615 01:27:06,410 --> 01:27:10,640 electromagnetic 3617 01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:12,080 Griffi dick drive to them which would 3619 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,150 explain a lot of things that goes on 3621 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:20,900 including the electromagnetic effects on 3623 01:27:14,150 --> 01:27:23,180 vehicles and so forth furthermore it is 3625 01:27:20,900 --> 01:27:25,700 not customary for countries to test 3627 01:27:23,180 --> 01:27:28,400 their secret weapons or secret devices 3629 01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:31,280 in 133 different countries all over the 3631 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,260 place and also from a moral standpoint I 3633 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,120 doubt very much that we would have sent 3635 01:27:33,260 --> 01:27:37,730 astronauts to the moon using antiquated 3637 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:43,040 chemical fuels if we had a way of doing 3639 01:27:37,730 --> 01:27:44,930 it much more efficiently if we have then 3641 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,460 it's criminal that's being kept strictly 3643 01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:48,440 in military hands because this would 3645 01:27:46,460 --> 01:27:50,620 solve all of our energy problems in the 3647 01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:50,620 world 3649 01:27:54,730 --> 01:27:59,650 [Music] 3651 01:27:56,710 --> 01:28:02,590 so I've given up the whole idea that it 3653 01:27:59,650 --> 01:28:04,500 could possibly be from any place on 3655 01:28:02,590 --> 01:28:08,920 earth 3657 01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:12,970 why don't tell the public what's going 3659 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:15,910 on to accept that some object over fly 3661 01:28:12,970 --> 01:28:22,090 and the country being unable to clear 3663 01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:23,350 the sky of the you cannot admit it do 3665 01:28:22,090 --> 01:28:24,630 you think it's possible there was from 3667 01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:28,949 another world 3669 01:28:24,630 --> 01:28:31,800 I my Air Force training says I can't 3671 01:28:28,949 --> 01:28:33,389 think that way okay a story this big 3673 01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,560 there's no way it could be kept secret 3675 01:28:33,389 --> 01:28:37,050 from the public what do you say to 3677 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,670 someone like that it says that well 3679 01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:45,090 somebody's kept a pretty cigarette for 3681 01:28:38,670 --> 01:28:46,650 quite a while I don't think our country 3683 01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:50,000 needs to reopen its official 3685 01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:52,889 investigation that it shut down in 1969 3687 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:55,380 the United States government can no 3689 01:28:52,889 --> 01:28:58,380 longer shun an international dialogue 3691 01:28:55,380 --> 01:29:00,300 about this phenomena and we invite the 3693 01:28:58,380 --> 01:29:02,850 government to work in cooperation with 3695 01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:07,050 countries as represented on both sides 3697 01:29:02,850 --> 01:29:09,090 of me here today this position is 3699 01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:14,010 supported by President Clinton's former 3701 01:29:09,090 --> 01:29:16,679 chief of staff John Podesta Podesta also 3703 01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:19,380 an adviser to President Obama spoke at a 3705 01:29:16,679 --> 01:29:21,659 2002 press conference organized by the 3707 01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:24,739 Coalition for freedom of information I 3709 01:29:21,659 --> 01:29:26,969 think it's time to open the books on 3711 01:29:24,739 --> 01:29:29,550 questions that have remained in the dark 3713 01:29:26,969 --> 01:29:34,080 under and the question of government 3715 01:29:29,550 --> 01:29:36,659 investigations of UFOs it's time to find 3717 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:39,120 out what what the truth really is that's 3719 01:29:36,659 --> 01:29:41,370 out there we ought to do it really 3721 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:43,409 because it's right we ought to do it 3723 01:29:41,370 --> 01:29:45,989 because the American people quite 3725 01:29:43,409 --> 01:29:49,760 frankly can handle the truth and we 3727 01:29:45,989 --> 01:29:52,500 ought to do it because it's the law 3729 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:54,510 bring up these witnesses from the 3731 01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:57,630 airports and the National Aeronautics 3733 01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:59,520 and Space Agency have them interrogated 3735 01:29:57,630 --> 01:30:02,100 by members of the House or Senate 3737 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:04,679 committee but to put their records on 3739 01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:07,440 the line and let the people who have 3741 01:30:04,679 --> 01:30:10,280 allegedly seen unidentified flying 3743 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:11,650 objects come and testify 3745 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,390 [Music] 3747 01:30:11,650 --> 01:30:17,120 there was one last thing as Jack Patton 3749 01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:20,660 a the man who helped release Frances UFO 3751 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:23,210 FILES what advice he would give to the 3753 01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:25,190 American government motion Padilla 3755 01:30:23,210 --> 01:30:29,330 Vermont Kinsella do yoga on the money 3757 01:30:25,190 --> 01:30:33,170 cash for chili hey Mabel Joe poscar San 3759 01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:35,780 Ramon dfq Jacques pokey for a whopper 3761 01:30:33,170 --> 01:30:38,930 deli diffusions is a formation policy to 3763 01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:44,060 measure pad no permit Dooney the Conseil 3765 01:30:38,930 --> 01:30:46,520 garna mejia may be on Rosalia per se 3767 01:30:44,060 --> 01:30:48,770 gear low in Osama sido Alejandra knows 3769 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,890 innocence Odelle arrazi I've met with 3771 01:30:48,770 --> 01:30:53,870 UFO witnesses from around the world 3773 01:30:50,890 --> 01:30:57,050 military officers politicians and 3775 01:30:53,870 --> 01:31:00,020 everyday people like you and me and he 3777 01:30:57,050 --> 01:31:01,910 says its target over here they come 3779 01:31:00,020 --> 01:31:04,460 forward with nothing to gain and 3781 01:31:01,910 --> 01:31:07,190 everything to lose because they want 3783 01:31:04,460 --> 01:31:09,920 answers across this valley not the same 3785 01:31:07,190 --> 01:31:12,590 old explanations of swamp gas military 3787 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:15,920 flares weather balloons or misidentified 3789 01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:19,340 aircraft but the truth there's no reason 3791 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:21,860 for me not to say what I saw I had 3793 01:31:19,340 --> 01:31:23,750 nothing hot I have nothing to gain maybe 3795 01:31:21,860 --> 01:31:26,090 somebody involved with the US government 3797 01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:28,760 knows the origin of these crafts but I 3799 01:31:26,090 --> 01:31:31,280 don't all of a sudden 10 degrees to my 3801 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:34,220 right they're ours then somebody has 3803 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:37,730 been hiding revolutionary technology for 3805 01:31:34,220 --> 01:31:40,300 over 50 years I've never seen anything 3807 01:31:37,730 --> 01:31:45,350 go so fast in my life as that they would 3809 01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:46,930 yeah if any of them are not man-made 3811 01:31:45,350 --> 01:32:35,399 then we're not alone 3813 01:31:46,930 --> 01:32:35,399 [Music] 3815 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:46,970 [Music] 3817 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:56,689 you 3819 01:32:48,670 --> 01:32:56,689 [Music] 3821 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,820 you 136907

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