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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,520 [Indistinct talking] 4 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,080 [Car engines running] 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 [Subtle beeping] 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,960 - [Man Off Camera]: Are you guys going to stop ever, 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,720 or are you gonna keep dancing forever? 8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,560 - I'm gonna keep dancing forever, I mean. 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Well, at least 'til I remember 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,840 where I put my car. 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,560 [Rhythmic electronic beeping] 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,200 - [Female Narrator]: This is the story of women 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,040 who hear music in their heads, 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,960 of radical sounds 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,720 where there was once silence, 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,120 of dreams enabled by technology. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,440 - Technology is a tremendous liberator. 18 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:12,920 It blows up power structures. 19 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:15,000 [Rhythmic electronic beeping becoming more complex] 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Women are naturally drawn to electronic music. 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,160 You didn't have to be accepted 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,160 by any of the male-dominated resources: 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,080 the radio stations, 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,280 the record companies, 25 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:28,760 the concert hall venues, 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,960 the funding organisations. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,560 You could make something with electronics 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,680 and you can present music directly to your audience 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,480 and that gives you tremendous freedom. 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,640 But somehow women get forgotten from that history. 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 [Electronic beeping darkens and fades away] 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,040 - [Female Narrator]: The history of women 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,480 has been a story of silence, 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,560 of breaking through the silence. 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,480 - We shall not be robbed any longer. 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 - [Female Narrator]: With beautiful noise 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,840 [Rhythmic electronic beeping] 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,200 [Beeping merges into a stagnant tone] 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,840 - This is April 30th, 1974. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,800 And we're all here at the Bonino Gallery. 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,240 - [Woman Off Camera]: What's your name? 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,600 - Suzanne Ciani, C-I-A-N-I. 43 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:27,680 [Giggles] 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,840 [Subdued electronic music] 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,160 And I'm going to give... 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,320 I'm going to play a concert on the Buchla synthesizer. 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,440 These instruments are designed by a manufacturer 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,160 in Berkeley, California. 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 They're probably the most sophisticated system 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,560 that's available. 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,160 And I think they're sensual. 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,200 May I have a cigarette? 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,080 - [Woman Off Camera]: They're what? 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,920 - Sensual. 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Thank you. 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,160 With this new technology, you could do it all yourself. 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,480 So you were the composer. 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,800 you were the performer, you were the sole arbiter 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,480 of your creation. 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:29,200 [Haunting synthesizer music] 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:43,160 [Repetitive melodic tones layer over prolonged swelling tones] 62 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 And the machine was alive. 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,680 It was warm. 64 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,040 It communicated. 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,520 It was sensitive. 66 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,280 You know, you could move something 67 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 just the littlest bit 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,320 and then a whole new expression would open up. 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:13,840 [Synthesizer music deepens and intensifies] 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:22,840 [Deep, full tones move quickly as swelling tones continue] 71 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,080 One of the most amazing experiences you can have 72 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,400 is to be in the middle of this sound that's moving. 73 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,200 The thing that I've always loved about electronic music 74 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,200 is that it's in motion. 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,960 It's malleable. 76 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,360 It's a much more open set of dynamics. 77 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:57,680 [A new melody emerges as lower tones steady] 78 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,200 In electronics, you're not dealing so literally with 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,000 the architecture of nodes or harmonies, 80 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,200 those building blocks in classical music. 81 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,040 You're dealing in energy. 82 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,680 [Air whooshing] 83 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:20,680 [Synthesizer music becomes more hurried] 84 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,640 - [Female Narrator]: At the dawn of the 20th century, 85 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,240 the world was no longer silent. 86 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,280 The spirit of modern life was a banshee 87 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 screeching into the future. 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Futurists wanted to make art out of 89 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,120 the new energy, speed, and noise. 90 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,120 How would we begin to do such a thing, 91 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,920 to capture the sound of this electrified world? 92 00:05:53,440 --> 00:06:01,600 [Humming pitch mirrors Clara's hand movements] 93 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,920 - I do very much what a diver would do. 94 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,600 I just have to take a chance. 95 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,240 And here I am. 96 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,160 [Hum jumps from a lower octave to a higher octave] 97 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:11,920 See? 98 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,000 A hair breadth off and I'm already on a different note. 99 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Dr. Ray, now we'll have fun. 100 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,160 [Dr. Ray laughs] 101 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Now we'll have fun. 102 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Now, here, hold your hand over this. 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:30,520 [Electronic tones whining in tandem with hand movements] 104 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 It is a fallacy to think that the instrument 105 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,240 is easy to play. 106 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:37,320 It is much more difficult than the violin. 107 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,320 I was a concert violinist before I played this. 108 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:53,280 [Passionate classical music on piano and Theremin] 109 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,240 As young girls, both my sister and I gave joint concerts 110 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:02,240 playing the violin and the piano all over Russia 111 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,120 then all over Europe. 112 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,080 We played our way to America. 113 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,200 I met Professor Theremin when he came to America 114 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,320 to demonstrate the instrument. 115 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,960 I was fascinated by 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,560 the aesthetic part of the instrument, 117 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,280 the beauty, 118 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,560 and the idea of playing completely 119 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,120 without touching anything. 120 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,440 I also loved the sound of it. 121 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,440 [Classical music continues] 122 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Professor Theremin became a great friend and admirer, 123 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,240 and we really worked on 124 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 this particular instrument together. 125 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,560 I making my musical pushes known to him, 126 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,960 and he being the genius that he was 127 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,040 made it work. 128 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,280 [Emotional piano music] 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 And we played the Nardini Concerto. 130 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 We played the whole César Franck Sonata, 131 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,240 which was at that time a rather great surprise 132 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,080 because the Theremin was associated with 133 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,760 just little melodies. 134 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:14,160 [Theremin plays a deep, passionate melody] 135 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,000 - [Aura Satz]: Suddenly you get someone 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,680 who's a total virtuoso 137 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,000 and able to make it sound in a way 138 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,520 that it had never sounded before. 139 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:36,320 [Mournful classical music with piano accompaniment] 140 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,240 - [Female Narrator]: You cannot play air with hammers, 141 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Clara would say. 142 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,280 You have to play with butterfly wings. 143 00:08:52,320 --> 00:09:24,840 [Mournful classical music continues] 144 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,680 - [Clara Rockmore]: I was a freak at the time. 145 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,560 The public had to be won over into thinking of it 146 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,840 as a real artistic medium played by an artist, 147 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 and I won them over. 148 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:47,400 [Birds chirping] 149 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,720 A young composer said to me, 150 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,800 "It's listening to this singing of a soul." 151 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,760 Now isn't that a lovely thought, 152 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,680 singing of a soul? 153 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:09,560 [Harsh, irregular tones] 154 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:13,240 - The first stage in the realisation of a piece of music 155 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,240 is to construct the individual sounds 156 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,720 that we're going to use. 157 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,720 To do this, we go to these 158 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,200 sound generators here, electronic generators, 159 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 and we listen to three of the basic electronic sounds. 160 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,320 First, is the simplest sound of all, 161 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,720 which is a sine wave. 162 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,200 [Stagnant tone] 163 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,200 You can see on the oscilloscope, 164 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,880 it has a very simple form and has a very pure sound. 165 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Now listen to the same note but with a different quality. 166 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,440 This is a square wave. 167 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,600 [Piercing stagnant tone] 168 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,200 It's very square on the picture 169 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,840 and perhaps rather harsh to listen to. 170 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,800 This is because it has a lot of high harmonics 171 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,840 and that's what gives the corners on the picture. 172 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Now a more complex sound still is white noise. 173 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,280 [Staticky, rain-like sound with no distinguishable pitch] 174 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 We don't always go to electronic sound generators 175 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,960 for our basic sources of sound. 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,760 If the sound we want exists already in real life, say, 177 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,320 we can go and record it. 178 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,720 [Medium-pitched pop] 179 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 [High-pitched, sharp tone] 180 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,280 But those basic sounds aren't really interesting 181 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,000 in their raw state like this. 182 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280 To make them of value for a musical piece, 183 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,760 we have to shape them and mold them. 184 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,400 We can get the lower sounds we need from the rhythm 185 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 by slowing down the tape. 186 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,960 [Low-pitched pop] 187 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 And the higher sounds by speeding up the tape. 188 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,880 [Pops get progressively higher in pitch] 189 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,520 And then all we have to do is cut the notes 190 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,120 to the right length. 191 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,840 We can join them together on a loop and listen to them. 192 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,080 [Low pops become rhythmic bass tones] 193 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,960 And then with the higher notes of the rhythm, again, 194 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,760 we join them together in a loop 195 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,920 and play it in synchronisation 196 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,320 with the first tape. 197 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,720 [Rapid rhythm of high "pop" tones overlays bass tones] 198 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,000 And over this we can play. 199 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,080 [Rapid rhythm of higher tones layers on top] 200 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,160 [Mysterious melody begins] 201 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:20,280 [Haunting ringing tones] 202 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Using all of these we can build up any sound 203 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,600 we can possibly imagine. 204 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,960 We spend quite a lot of time trying to invent new sound, 205 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,120 sounds that don't exist already, 206 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,960 sounds that can't be produced by musical instruments. 207 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,160 [Scratching] 208 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,000 [High-pitched squeaking] 209 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,240 The radio, the radio, the radio was 210 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,080 the most important thing in my life. 211 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,200 You know, there weren't books. 212 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,040 The radio was my education. 213 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,040 [Haunting tones and subdued beeping] 214 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,080 I was accepted by the Oxford and the Cambridge 215 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,320 to read mathematics, which is quite something 216 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,800 for a working-class girl in the '50s, 217 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:07,080 where only one in 10 were female. 218 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 - Delia was a brilliant mathematician. 219 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,160 She was fascinated by the inner composition of a sound. 220 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Then she could reach into it and decide 221 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,160 what part of that sound she wanted to use. 222 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,800 [Distant sirens] 223 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:30,280 [Menacing pulses] 224 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,120 - [Delia Derbyshire]: I was in Coventry during the Blitz. 225 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,400 That was such an influence on me. 226 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:47,480 It's come to me that my love for abstract sounds were 227 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,200 sounds of the air raid siren. 228 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,160 [Sirens continue] 229 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,560 Because that's the sound you hear and you don't know 230 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,920 the source of it as a young child. 231 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,640 It's an abstract sound and it's meaningful 232 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,680 and then the all clear. 233 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,400 [Sirens merge into electronic music sounds] 234 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:22,480 [Haunting hum] 235 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:35,960 [Bombs exploding] 236 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,560 - [Female Narrator]: World War II emptied cities of men. 237 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,680 [Time clock clicking] 238 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,280 And in the absence of men, women worked. 239 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,400 [Machine rattling] 240 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Freedom was more than a feeling. 241 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,800 - [Man]: There isn't much glamour 242 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,600 about this independence. 243 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Women at work are getting to look and behave 244 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 more like men. 245 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,120 It's not very attractive. 246 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,160 [Haunting squeaking sounds] 247 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 - Welcome to Tower Folly, this lonely host house 248 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,280 on the North Downs of Kent. 249 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,280 Well, as far as I know 250 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,000 this house isn't haunted and there isn't 251 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 a mad scientist in sight. 252 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,240 This is in fact a music factory where they can literally 253 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,160 make music out of electronic sounds, 254 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,320 and the woman who makes it has just been awarded a grant 255 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 by the Gulbenkian Foundation to help her research. 256 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,520 She's here at her control box, 257 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Miss Daphne Oram. 258 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,040 How did you get involved in this kind of work? 259 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,960 - It dates back really to 1944, I think, 260 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:43,800 when I read a book 261 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 which prophesied that composers in the future 262 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,560 would compose directly into sound instead of 263 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 using orchestral instruments, you see. 264 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,560 And well, since then I've been working 265 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,280 in BBC Studios, 266 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,720 and so I've got some little grasp 267 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,720 of this sort of equipment. 268 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,560 [Upbeat orchestral music starts] 269 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,160 I was trained as a musician, 270 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,760 and the two sort of click together, you see. 271 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,800 - Daphne was a very gifted pianist 272 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,200 and she had secured a place for herself 273 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,520 at the Royal Academy of Music, which she turned down 274 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,240 because she was also very interested in technology 275 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,280 and wanted to work at the BBC. 276 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,240 [Haunting electronic sounds] 277 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,480 I was asked to do some incidental music 278 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,560 for a television play, 279 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,280 and I did this by getting together, 280 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,720 in the middle of the night, 281 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,240 all the tape recorders that I could find in studios, 282 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,280 collecting them together in one studio, 283 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,560 and working until they had to be put back the next morning, 284 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,240 sleeping a little bit and then coming back in 285 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,240 to do my normal chamber music work. 286 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,960 [Upbeat flute and piano chamber music] 287 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Then it grew from that. 288 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,160 I was asked to help start the radiophonic workshop. 289 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,520 - [Man Whispering]: Listen. 290 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,520 - Without Daphne, 291 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 it would never have started because BBC did not want 292 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,280 an electronic music studio. 293 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,800 We were just using anything we could grab hold of. 294 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,200 We had basic laboratory equipment 295 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,440 and a pair of tape machines that had been liberated 296 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 at the end of the war. 297 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,200 [Banging and oscillating electronic sounds] 298 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,320 - Playwrights were writing in a surreal 299 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,800 kind of style, 300 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,280 which was a legacy of the war. 301 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,800 The style required a different kind of sound. 302 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,800 - [echoing, haunting male voice]: Bird or angel? 303 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,840 - [Male Radio Announcer]: This program is an experiment. 304 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,200 We think it's worth broadcasting 305 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,080 as a perfectly serious first attempt 306 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:46,160 to find out whether we can convey a new kind of 307 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,000 emotional and intellectual experience 308 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,520 by means of what we call radiophonic effects. 309 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,960 [Trudging, heavy beat] 310 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,920 - [Echoing, rhythmic chanting]: Round and round 311 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,280 like a wind from the ground. 312 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,000 [Unintelligible] 313 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,800 - [Male Radio Announcer]: It's a sort of modern magic. 314 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Some musicians believe that it can become an art form 315 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,240 complete in itself. 316 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,920 Others are skeptical. 317 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,280 In fact, we've decided not to use 318 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,280 the word "music" at all. 319 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,120 [Whispering and howling sounds] 320 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,240 - [Female Narrator]: What began as a research trip 321 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:36,520 to the Brussels World Fair became a fateful pilgrimage. 322 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,160 There, Daphne hears an electronic composition 323 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,840 fed through 350 speakers 324 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,800 with synchronised projections. 325 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 [Low rumbling] 326 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,240 Electronic music was more than just incidental. 327 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,480 It was the sound of the future. 328 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,800 - [Daphne Oram]: The radiophonic workshop was concentrating 329 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,440 somewhat on the drama side, 330 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,000 and I wanted to concentrate on the music side. 331 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,280 So I set up my own studio. 332 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,280 - She was a woman, 333 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,200 in the 1950s, set up her own 334 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,680 independent electronic music studio. 335 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,480 It's extraordinarily brave. 336 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,840 [Fluttering, whistle-like sounds] 337 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,840 - [Male Interiewer]: Now Miss Oram, 338 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,200 how do you go about manufacturing 339 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,680 this sort of sound? 340 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,000 - Well, let me introduce 341 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,160 this little electronic generator here, 342 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,200 which produces a sound like this. 343 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,360 [Resonant tone getting progressively lower] 344 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,760 Now I made a little loop of tape here 345 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 with varying pure tones on it. 346 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,240 [Rapidly ascending tones] 347 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,720 Now if I then put a little artificial reverberation 348 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,360 on that, I think you'll see 349 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,160 we're just beginning to get somewhere 350 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,240 with the music. 351 00:19:53,280 --> 00:20:01,720 [Reverberating, ethereal ascending tone patterns] 352 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:09,800 [Simple melody playing] 353 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:47,680 [Joyful melody plays over percussive tapping] 354 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,280 - [Male Interviewer]: What are you going with this 355 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,040 three-and-a-half thousand pounds that you've got? 356 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,720 - Well, this is very exciting to me 357 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,200 because I have ideas for a piece of electronic equipment, 358 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,360 not quite like this. 359 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,480 In this case, the composer, 360 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,800 we're going to be able to feed in drawn symbols 361 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,840 straight into the equipment and out will come the sounds. 362 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,320 [Rumbling] 363 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,200 I have a new technique completely, 364 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,800 one that I've evolved over the years, 365 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 which I call oramics. 366 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Now that is using graphic representation of sound. 367 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,240 [Reverberating tones] 368 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,160 There seems to be no real notation system 369 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,680 in electronic music. 370 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,760 I wanted a system where I could graphically represent 371 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,240 what I wanted and give that representation, 372 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,040 that musical score, in fact, to a machine 373 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,960 and have from it the sound. 374 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,320 [Reverberating tones continue] 375 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:55,720 [playful waltz of electronic tones] 376 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,440 - This idea of drawn sound 377 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,040 is a sound that comes from nowhere. 378 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,200 It's a sound that is synthesised from nothing, 379 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,160 but she's not the ghost in the machine 380 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,160 her hands are all over it. 381 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:23,280 [playful waltz continues] 382 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 - The composer wants to project something of himself. 383 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,240 The great works of art are a projection of a human mind. 384 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,240 And unless this machine can accept and produce exactly 385 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,200 this projection of the composer's thought, 386 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 then I think it's just a machine and I can quite see 387 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 why people can get frightened at the thought. 388 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:51,720 [Percussive beat resembling a train on tracks] 389 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,480 [Eliane Radigue speaking French] 390 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,240 [Percussive beat continues] 391 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,720 [Ocean-like waves of sound] 392 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,520 [Airplane engine roaring] 393 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:49,880 [Prolonged metallic tones] 394 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Pierre Schaeffer said, "In between noise and music, 395 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,920 "there is the hand of the musician." 396 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,080 [Man speaking French] 397 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,520 [French voice recording repeats on a loop] 398 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,280 - Stop. 399 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,440 [Eliane speaking French] 400 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:15,240 [light chiming tones overlay deep airy sounds] 401 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,160 - [Female Narrator]: Eliane dreamt of an unreal, 402 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,960 impalpable music appearing and fading away like clouds 403 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,160 in the blue summer sky. 404 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:47,320 [Slow pulses of pleasant tones and chimes] 405 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,120 [Eliane speaking French] 406 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 [Mix of mysterious electronic sounds] 407 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,360 [Pierre Henry speaking French] 408 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,280 [Eliane speaking French] 409 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:25,840 [Single tone splits into multiple dissonant tones] 410 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:50,360 [A complex chorus of tones emerges] 411 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,920 - [Man]: Greenwich Village is mostly a state of mind. 412 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,760 [Blues music] 413 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,200 - [Bebe Barron]: The Village in the 50s had to be 414 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,480 the most exciting, wonderful place in the world. 415 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,200 It was unbelievable, like Paris in the 20s. 416 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,800 We were married in '48 and Louis's cousin brought us 417 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,640 a tape recorder for a wedding present. 418 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000 I think we were the only ones in the country 419 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480 with that machine. 420 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,160 We had all the artists in The Village coming to us 421 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,240 for recording work. 422 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,440 [Reverberating high and low tones] 423 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240 - [Female Performer]: I remember my first 424 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,520 birth in water. 425 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:44,600 I sway and float, stand on boneless toes, 426 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880 listening for distant sounds, 427 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,040 sounds beyond the reach of human ears. 428 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,320 [Whistling tones join the reverberating tones] 429 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,280 - [Bebe]: We started a recording studio. 430 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,080 We built almost all the equipment ourselves 431 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320 because there wasn't any to buy. 432 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,320 [Upbeat orchestral music] 433 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,200 - [Male Announcer]: The great American boy is hard at work 434 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,760 inventing, creating, building something. 435 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760 And the desire to build and create new things 436 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,280 is the energy that develops 437 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,760 industrious, dependable citizens of tomorrow. 438 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,760 - [Louis Barron]: It was exciting because you were 439 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080 building these things and you're experimenting with 440 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,160 the electronic media. 441 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160 [Bubbling sounds dance atop an asymmetrical beat] 442 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,640 - [Female Narrator]: Louis made sounds 443 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320 by overloading circuit boards, 444 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,320 which Bebe then processed and manipulated to create music. 445 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,920 To the writer, Anaïs Nin, 446 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:47,120 it sounded like a molecule had stubbed its toe. 447 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200 - [Bebe]: And we started working on avant-garde films. 448 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160 That's what this was all about, 449 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,840 was the avant-garde. 450 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,480 [Mysterious, space-like music] 451 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440 The sense of wonder and awe, 452 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,280 the beauty coming from the circuits. 453 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,280 I mean we would just sit back and let them take over. 454 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:27,600 [Deep roars and descending, spinning tones] 455 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,280 - [Louis]: These circuits are not instruments. 456 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960 They are performance. 457 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,320 - [Bebe]: We would record 458 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,280 everything that came out of the circuits. 459 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,200 I spent hours and hours and hours 460 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,680 listening to all that stuff. 461 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,560 - [Louis]: Oh yeah. 462 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Well, later you went through- 463 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,200 - [Bebe]: Days! 464 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,000 - [Louis]: Miles of tape. - [Bebe]: Yeah. 465 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,320 - [Louis]: Incredible, and she could hold it in her memory. 466 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,560 She could remember where to go for a certain feeling 467 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680 in the sound. 468 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960 [Sounds resembling sirens] 469 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,160 - Bebe had a formal musical education. 470 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 She made most of the compositional decisions 471 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,440 while Louis dealt more with the technical side of things. 472 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160 The Barrons' greatest achievement 473 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,920 was with the music for Forbidden Planet. 474 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,080 [Spinning high-pitched tones] 475 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,080 It was the first movie with an all-electronic score. 476 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,080 [Whale-like moaning] 477 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,080 - The pride and joy of that period was in coming up 478 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,360 with the music for the monster. 479 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,200 [Descending, spinning tone meets an ascending moan] 480 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880 We were just beside ourselves. 481 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,680 Suddenly, this circuit started generating 482 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,560 the most complex sounds. 483 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:53,920 The dying of Morbius was the actual dying of the circuit. 484 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920 [Deep moaning] 485 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:02,000 [Harsh, distressed screeching] 486 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:14,280 [Screeching getting higher and higher] 487 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,520 [Tones descend into silence] 488 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,760 [Bubbling sounds] 489 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600 - [Louis]: We would have a credit that said, 490 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,240 "Electronic music by Louis and Bebe Barron." 491 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,960 But a memo was circulated among the executives. 492 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,240 How would the American Federation of Musicians 493 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,560 respond to a credit that says electronic music? 494 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160 - The Musicians' Union would not 495 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,000 allow the soundtrack to be considered music. 496 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,520 [Haunting, spinning tones sprinkled with bubbling sounds] 497 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320 They were afraid that someday their jobs would be replaced 498 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,920 by machines and so they would have none of it. 499 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,560 That's why it's credited as "electronic tonalities." 500 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,200 [Deep, haunting sounds] 501 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920 - [Bebe]: It was so awful. 502 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:16,480 We were barely acknowledged as composers. 503 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,280 [Harsh, metallic swell of sound] 504 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,480 [Rhythmic, determined melody] 505 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:32,480 [Sweeping whoosh of air] 506 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:42,360 [Mysterious space-like melody] 507 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,280 - Prior to Dr. Who, 508 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,280 there's a lot of distaste of electronic music. 509 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,280 Delia's music is absolutely crucial 510 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,760 in changing that perception. 511 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,440 [Mysterious, reverberating tones] 512 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000 - [Woman]: It's like a lighthouse, isn't it? 513 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,160 I wonder what it's like up there in a thunderstorm. 514 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Think of being up there on a starry night, 515 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240 with all the world at your feet. 516 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,280 - You get people who are writing in 517 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,320 saying, "What is this?" 518 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,320 "How is it made?" 519 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,720 - Imagine what life must have been like 520 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040 before samplers, before synthesizers, 521 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,760 before sequencers? 522 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,280 It took her 40 days to make the Doctor Who theme. 523 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,720 40 days. 524 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,240 - She would sample a green lamp shade, 525 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240 speed it up, reverse it, 526 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200 and just completely changed the nature of the sound. 527 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,520 [Bell chiming] 528 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,520 [Sustained, warm bell tones] 529 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,520 [Birds chirping] 530 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,840 - This was a documentary program 531 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,000 about the Tuareg tribe, 532 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,160 the Tuareg tribe of nomads in the Sahara desert. 533 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,560 In the piece, I tried to convey 534 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,280 the distance of the horizon and the heat haze, 535 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,280 the strand of camels wandering across the desert. 536 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,200 That, in fact, was made from square waves 537 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,280 put through every filter I could possibly find. 538 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:35,280 [Harsh sustained tones over warm, swelling bell tones] 539 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,240 - [Barry performing]: There must be a god. 540 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Oh, yes. 541 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:49,160 [Ethereal, layered choral chanting] 542 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,280 Delia Derbyshire created 543 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,200 some very, very beautiful things 544 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,160 and some things that had 545 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,440 a very strange and unearthly quality 546 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,680 that couldn't quite be got, I think, by normal musical means 547 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,360 and yet didn't sound as if 548 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360 they were electronically manufactured. 549 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:09,920 [Ethereal choral chanting continues] 550 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,520 - Some of it was worked out mathematically. 551 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,320 [Repeated beeping tones] 552 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,320 I've tried to get into it 553 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:24,720 a feeling of simplicity and loneliness, 554 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,720 of a man on a moon. 555 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:37,240 [Ethereal, sliding melody] 556 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960 - [Neil Armstrong]: That's one small step for man, 557 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,320 one giant leap for mankind. 558 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,840 - [Mandy]: She created a kind of pathway 559 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,240 for electronic music. 560 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,520 - [Delia]: I did all sorts of things 561 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560 I was told I couldn't do. 562 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,760 I think I've always been a very independent thinker. 563 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,560 [Ethereal, sliding melody ends] 564 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560 [Bomb exploding] 565 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:23,960 [Rumbling sound expands, then fades] 566 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,280 - [Female Narrator]: While the work of women 567 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,240 like Delia and Daphne 568 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,040 came from the deafening sounds of wartime, 569 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,200 it was the chilling silence of the Cold War 570 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:40,200 that took others to the limits of listening. 571 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,240 - The bomb scare psychology 572 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,160 that was inculcated, 573 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,240 that had a big effect on the artists 574 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,600 that were emerging at that time. 575 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,720 [Upbeat guitar music] 576 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,240 Everybody was pushing for opening things up, 577 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,480 a kind of way through all the terrible stuff 578 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,200 that was going on in the world at the time. 579 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,480 So there was a lot of political motivation behind 580 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,800 what we were doing. 581 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,800 - [Protestors] Peace now! 582 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,000 Peace now! Peace now! 583 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,280 [Crowd cheering] 584 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,480 - [David Rosenboom]: The effect was to say, 585 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,800 okay, we've got to break through 586 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,000 anything that was rigid, anything that was limiting, 587 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680 and try to move things forward. 588 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:30,160 [Space-like, harsh, high-pitched tones] 589 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,600 - The music scene 590 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,280 was evolving into an area that was 591 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,760 very fresh and exciting. 592 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,800 [Screaming, elongated tones] 593 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200 First time I heard live electronic music 594 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,160 was early '60s. 595 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Pauline was on stage with an accordion. 596 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,160 The room was exploding with a sound that was ear-splitting. 597 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,680 I had never experienced that kind of volume before. 598 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:11,160 [Piercing, screaming tones ascending and descending] 599 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,960 - [Pauline Oliveros]: I can't remember 600 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,160 when I wasn't interested in sounds. 601 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,920 I remember particularly things like riding in the car 602 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000 with my parents for instance, maybe in the backseat, 603 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,280 listening to the sound of the motor 604 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,680 and listening to the sound of my parents' voices 605 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,280 being modulated by the motor. 606 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,680 [Muffled conversation] 607 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,680 Listening to my father turn his shortwave radio, 608 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,160 listening to the whistles and pops and static. 609 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,800 I mean, I was always fascinated with 610 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,800 the in-between sounds in the stations, 611 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,160 just tuning in between. 612 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,440 I loved that. 613 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,320 [Radio tuning] 614 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,320 I credit my mother. 615 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,160 For my birthday, she sent me a tape recorder, 616 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,800 and that was a very significant event 617 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440 because nobody had tape recorders, you know. 618 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,160 It was in the 50s. 619 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,480 [Relaxed, marching dance music] 620 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,800 I began to do field recording from my apartment window. 621 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,720 [High-pitched screeching tones Trolley bell ringing] 622 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,320 And then in 1959 got started making 623 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040 a tape piece called Time Perspectives. 624 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,240 [Wind chimes ringing] 625 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:38,280 [Hollow object sliding on a surface] 626 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,200 The tape recorder that I had, it was possible to record 627 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,280 by hand winding the tape in record mode. 628 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,440 That gave me a variable speed so I could do 629 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,440 some interesting things with that. 630 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,280 [Bells continue ringing] 631 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,200 [Sounds resembling birds cawing] 632 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,360 And I used the bathtub for reverberation [chuckles] 633 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,760 and cardboard tubes as filters. 634 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,320 I'd put microphones in the tube and then record sounds 635 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,720 through the tube. 636 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:13,040 [Hollow sound of water gurgling] 637 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,280 [Airy wash of sound] 638 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,160 [Sustained accordion chord] 639 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,320 [Object dropping] 640 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,240 Eventually, I met up with a group of people 641 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,280 who were interested in new music, 642 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520 [Haunting, avant-garde music] 643 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,200 which led to the founding of 644 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,280 the San Francisco Tape Music Center. 645 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080 - The San Francisco Tape Music Center 646 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,160 was not associated with an institution. 647 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,240 So it was friends brought together what equipment 648 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,200 they had to share. 649 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,240 - Our sense of what we were doing 650 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,360 at that point was opening a place where poets, 651 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,080 painters, film, and electronic or tape music, 652 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,360 where all this stuff could be done. 653 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,720 [Echoing, haunting sounds] 654 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,520 It was a sense of individuality. 655 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,840 Nobody wanted to be like anyone else 656 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080 and everybody was very supportive 657 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200 of what everybody else was doing. 658 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,760 - My interest was always in live performance 659 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,280 and I started to find out ways to use tape recorders 660 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,160 and perform live with them, and that was making 661 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,280 a tape delay system, which allows me 662 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,760 to maintain that physical contact with the sound. 663 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,280 [Screeching, high-pitched tone] 664 00:42:42,520 --> 00:43:19,520 [Classical choral music begins as tone continues] 665 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,520 - [Female Narrator]: How do you exercise the canon of 666 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,760 classical music of misogyny 667 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,800 with two oscillators, a turntable, and tape delay? 668 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,800 - Feminism was at the center 669 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,760 of what she was doing, 670 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,360 and it's strange because it seems like if the boys' club 671 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,200 is going to pick a token woman, you would not pick 672 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,320 a woman who is that outspoken. 673 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,600 [Drone-like tone] 674 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,760 - Pauline was conscious of the fact that 675 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,280 she was different. 676 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200 She had a streak of a revolutionary in her. 677 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,920 - Pauline, it was hard, you know, 678 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,240 she had come out in the 50s 679 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,200 and here she was a woman, gay, 680 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,240 avant-garde music, 681 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,720 each thing by itself would be hard, 682 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,440 but she had three things that were hard 683 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,840 and women composers 684 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,920 were not being performed, you know. 685 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,160 [Choral voices emerge over the drone-like tone] 686 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,520 - [Male Interviewer]: You wrote an editorial 687 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,240 to the New York Times once called 688 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,440 "Don't Call Them 'Lady' Composers" 689 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,840 - [Pauline]: That's right. - Tell us about 690 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,760 when you wrote that and why. 691 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,440 - [Pauline]: I just want to be introduced as a composer. 692 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,160 That has caused me to use that title 693 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,160 and to start to point out 694 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,320 how hard it was for women to be taken seriously 695 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160 as creators of music. 696 00:44:43,200 --> 00:45:11,240 [Drone-like and choral tones continue] 697 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,960 - [Female Narrator]: Go out walking at night. 698 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,200 Tread so quietly the bottoms of your feet become ears. 699 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,000 Working with an all-women ensemble, 700 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,200 instructions like these were intended to encourage 701 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,000 deep listening. 702 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,280 [Drone-like tone continues] 703 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:46,280 [Long tones resembling brass] 704 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,280 - [Pauline]: I was alarmed 705 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,920 as many were, of course, 706 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,320 with the Vietnam War, 707 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,040 and I began to seek some ways of working with sound 708 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,200 that I could discover more of a kind of inner peace. 709 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:10,240 [Drone-like and brass tones continue] 710 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,280 I found myself listening to long sounds 711 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,560 and becoming more interested in 712 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,840 what the sounds did themselves 713 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,480 than what I would do with them. 714 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,240 And as this work proceeded, 715 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,200 I began to become interested in what the kind of listening 716 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:38,160 I was doing did to me and my own internal processes. 717 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,760 [Drone-like tones continue] 718 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,440 [Brass tones sing gently] 719 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,440 - [Female Interviewer]: Does it have 720 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080 social and political implications to you, 721 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,600 the kind of music that you write? 722 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,040 - Oh, yes. 723 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,440 Well, I feel that one's interactions, 724 00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,760 the way one relates in an organization of any kind, 725 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,720 is political and social and very important. 726 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,360 The path that I hope to be on is one where the energy 727 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,600 that comes out of the work that I do is beneficial 728 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,320 to others as well as myself. 729 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,840 I want my work to be mutually beneficial. 730 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,240 I'm not interested in 731 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,560 making an object of art and entertainment. 732 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,280 I'm interested in making something that helps me 733 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,800 to grow and expand and change as an individual 734 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,160 and in relation to others. 735 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:48,040 [Warm, layered brass tones] 736 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,000 - [Female Narrator]: Pauline's preoccupation with 737 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,200 how we hear and feel 738 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:55,600 the sounds within and around us 739 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,280 were shared by Maryanne Amacher at MIT, 740 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,480 who was sounding out the city. 741 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,320 [Fluttering high-pitched sounds] 742 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:13,560 [Seagulls cawing] 743 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,240 - I had installed a microphone 744 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,320 in eight locations at the Boston Harbour 745 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,240 in the New England Fish Exchange 746 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,200 connected to telephone links. 747 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200 It was very nice to come in late at night 748 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,360 at 1:00 in the morning 749 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,760 and just turn on the mixer and have the sound 750 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,720 coming from the distant night when I liked it best 751 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,360 because I could hear patterns in various shapes. 752 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,240 [Seagulls cawing] 753 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,320 [Fluttering high-pitched sounds continue] 754 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,800 I realized, my, there's a tone of this place. 755 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,800 There's a whole undercurrent that exists here 756 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,200 that makes this recognisable in some way. 757 00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:59,320 It wasn't hard to analyse it in Boston. 758 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,160 It was like a low F sharp. 759 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,240 Then other places, for example, New York, 760 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,960 it was like a low E. 761 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,960 [Subway train clattering] 762 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,560 It wasn't that I wanted the sounds of the birds 763 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,480 or the sounds of the harbour or any of these sounds, 764 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,480 I really wanted to experience and learn about hearing. 765 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,040 [Pleasant harmony of tones] 766 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,040 - [Male Interviewer]: When people say to you, 767 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,000 "Yeah, but is it music?" 768 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,320 After you say, "Yes it is," 769 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,160 how do you expand on that? 770 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,320 - [Maryanne]: Well, I think that's sort of 771 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,080 an old question [chuckles]. 772 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,760 Much of our music, classical pop, has this beat, 773 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,280 has this gallop, has this trot. 774 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,480 I'm interested in music that communicates some ideas, 775 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,240 finding places where there is space and dimension 776 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,560 to the sound, 777 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000 sounds very very far away and very close up. 778 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,400 [Deep, airy sounds] 779 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,840 - Maryanne was really interested in 780 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,520 contemporary science. 781 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200 She had been very interested in muon research, 782 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:08,360 these particles that speed through the universe. 783 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:12,200 - She was constantly thinking about 784 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,480 intersections of science, life, and sound. 785 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,800 [Airy and metallic, droning sounds] 786 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,720 - Her house was incredible. 787 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,760 It was in breathtakingly bad condition. 788 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,080 There was this whole rack 789 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,280 full of these sine wave oscillators 790 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,080 straight out of a physics lab. 791 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,320 And there's this woman sitting there 792 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,000 with this really intense, buzzy energy. 793 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,280 [Quivering metallic sounds] 794 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,200 - She'd have a rock-and-roll attitude 795 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:51,280 towards, "I'm going to make this whole house 796 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,240 "vibrate and come alive." 797 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:19,240 [Metallic sounds intensify and rumble] 798 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,160 - She wanted to develop an extremely 799 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520 rigorous approach to listening, 800 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,840 [Low, constant tone subtly shifting in quality] 801 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,240 to activating sights, 802 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,360 to thinking outside of composition as it's known. 803 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,960 She didn't want to push around 804 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,320 dead white men's notes. 805 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,080 - I wanted to create music where 806 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,360 the listener actually had 807 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,280 vivid experiences of contributing. 808 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,040 In composing, I am conscious of the tones 809 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,320 that you make in response to the tones 810 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,240 that a musician plays. 811 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,280 [Subtle, harsh violin string sounds] 812 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,480 - One of the phenomenon she was 813 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,160 most interested in was otoacoustic emission. 814 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,560 She referred to them as ear tones. 815 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,280 If you have two frequencies and they sound together, 816 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,200 the ear and the mind try to sort of resolve them. 817 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:36,240 There is an emergent third pitch. 818 00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:39,840 She can compose these outer things that will produce 819 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,960 this inner thing. 820 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,440 [low, constant tone subtly shifting in quality] 821 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,280 She would refer to it as 822 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,560 ghost writing the listener's music. 823 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,280 - The first time one encounters her music 824 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,920 and the way that it dances inside your ear 825 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,600 is this light bulb moment. 826 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,280 You can actually play with 827 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,280 the physicality of the listener. 828 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,000 [Soft, harsh violin string sounds] 829 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,280 [Low tone continues] 830 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:17,720 [Tones are replaced by a constant high-pitched tone] 831 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,280 - Merce Cunningham commissioned 832 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680 a piece from her. 833 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:22,680 [Sustained, chant-like tones] 834 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,000 You'd hear this very high pitch. 835 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,280 [High pitch and low tones continue] 836 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,280 And then there would be thunder, 837 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,600 [Thunder rumbling softly] 838 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,680 beautiful thunder recorded in stereoscopic sound 839 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,200 that would shift across the room. 840 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:41,240 [Thunder rumbles swell] 841 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,440 And when it hit, there would be this array 842 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,320 of other frequencies that would happen. 843 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,760 It was very very beautiful. 844 00:53:49,800 --> 00:54:22,440 [High pitch continues as thunder waxes and wanes] 845 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,200 - [Female Narrator]: The idea of 846 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,360 a slowly-evolving composition 847 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,360 that alters the listener 848 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,800 also fired the imagination of Eliane Radigue. 849 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,680 [Grunt-like prolonged tone] 850 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,560 [Eliane speaking French] 851 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,240 [Varied electronic beeps] 852 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:10,640 [Man singing to an upbeat rhythm] 853 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,160 - When I met Eliane, 854 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,800 she had been working with the Buchla synthesizer, 855 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,800 yet this piece that she wrote, Chry-ptus, 856 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,200 sounded nothing like a Buchla. 857 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,840 [Spinning low tone] 858 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,240 [High, piercing pitch emerges] 859 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:48,640 [Phone ringing sound] 860 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,040 [Eliane speaking French] 861 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,560 [Medium-pitched, spinning tone] 862 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,240 - We're talking with Eliane Radigue 863 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,600 who's here from Paris. 864 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,280 Are you working with both synthesisers 865 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,560 and tape recording processes? 866 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,280 - [Eliane]: Yes, the ARP synthesiser 867 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:35,160 and the tape recorder. 868 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,160 My main involvement with music is to work on 869 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,760 slow changing of the sounds. 870 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,440 - [Charles]: So in a way, 871 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,360 you're working with time? 872 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,320 - [Eliane]: Yes, my last work, Adnos II, 873 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,320 is 75 minutes long, and it couldn't be shorter. 874 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,440 It just goes like a stream. 875 00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:04,200 [Constant tone slightly pulsates rhythmically] 876 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:11,720 [A dissonant tone emerges] 877 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,360 I should say that this music I make 878 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,760 is not so much welcome, 879 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,440 except by a few people, of course. 880 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,160 There is nothing in between. 881 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560 People likes it, or not at all. 882 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,040 For the music establishment, 883 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320 they think that I don't make music. 884 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,520 That's not music. 885 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,080 - [Charles] Oh, still arguing about that, are we? 886 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520 [Eliane laughs] 887 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280 - Our music was meant to be listened to 888 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,320 in a different way than how you'd listen to, like, 889 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,160 a pop song. 890 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,440 In a pop song you're listening for 891 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,800 melodies, harmonies, lyrics. 892 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440 In her music, you're listening not just 893 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,160 for the things that are changing in the sound, 894 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,160 but for the way that the experience 895 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,760 is changing your disposition. 896 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:08,480 [Two main spinning tones] 897 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:16,240 [Spinning gets more rapid] 898 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:25,520 [Spinning slows, causing the two tones to alternate] 899 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760 [Speaking French] 900 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,800 [Man speaking French] 901 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,680 [Dramatic whoosh of sound] 902 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:19,160 [Baroque-like electronic melody] 903 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,360 [Man speaking French] 904 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,520 [Piano notes playing] 905 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,200 - [Wendy Carlos]: I'll make it start very dull 906 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,520 and then get very bright like that. 907 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,840 It sounds more like a trumpet sound. 908 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,160 [Brass-like synthesizer notes playing] 909 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,680 [Man speaking French] 910 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,320 [Experimenting with brass-like notes] 911 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,280 And I'll add a little echo. 912 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,560 [Brass-like notes become more sustained] 913 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,480 [Rapid baroque music] 914 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,240 - The transgressive act of 915 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:11,160 recontextualizing these classic Western art music tropes, 916 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:20,280 that takes a lot of strength, humour, and vision. 917 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,560 - [Suzanne]: Up until that moment, 918 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,560 electronic music had this promise 919 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,200 of a different vocabulary, a different language, 920 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,760 a new paradigm, a new way of working. 921 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,160 Switched-On Bach, the way it impacted 922 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:40,280 the public's consciousness of what a synthesiser was, 923 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,280 was completely retroactive. 924 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,240 [Bach piece playing on synthesizer] 925 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,200 Everybody thought that these things were about 926 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:53,240 replicating sounds. 927 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,320 To me, electronic music wasn't about making baroque music 928 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,320 with new timbres. 929 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,200 It was a different kind of music. 930 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,160 You just had the Summer of Love. 931 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,200 Everything we knew was being thrown out, 932 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,240 and it was a whole new world. 933 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,600 Electronics were part of that world. 934 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,960 [Ascending and descending scales of electronic tones] 935 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,280 - What are they? 936 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,040 - Oh, these are patch cords. 937 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,320 These are the things that route the signal 938 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,160 from one little module to another to get the sound. 939 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,840 You can patch it a lot of different ways and the way 940 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,760 you patch it will determine what you get. 941 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,280 It's like creating an instrument. 942 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,280 - [Woman Off-Camera]: Do you know before you put them in 943 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,760 what it's going to sound like? 944 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,240 - Well, you're always going towards an idea. 945 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,080 That's what makes you put the patch cords in certain places. 946 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,240 - [Suzanne]: Part of an instrument is what it can do 947 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,840 and part of it is what you do to it. 948 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,200 The other part of music of course is the motion 949 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,200 and the personal involvement that a musician gives 950 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,200 to his instrument, 951 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,160 and that's something that I happen to feel 952 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,560 and have with synthesisers. 953 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,960 So I play the synthesiser the same way 954 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,480 somebody else would play cello or violin. 955 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,920 [Majestic melody begins over the scales] 956 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,280 - For a classically trained pianist 957 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,920 to turn her back on a keyboard, 958 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,200 she's crazy. 959 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,320 It was like learning a new language 960 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,200 via the means of cutting out your own tongue. 961 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,680 - [Suzanne speaking as harmonies mimic her voice]: 962 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,040 Yeah, I can sing out of tune 963 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,280 and it'll still be in tune 964 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,280 because it depends on what I'm playing. 965 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,080 This is all the pitch so you don't have to really be able 966 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,360 to sing to do this. 967 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,360 So, it's great. it's great. 968 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,240 Hello, hello, hello. 969 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,360 [Suzanne Narrating]: I couldn't get a record deal 970 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,680 because the record companies 971 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,440 were not interested in a woman who did not sing. 972 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,200 Advertising wanted to be on the edge. 973 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,240 They were looking for something different. 974 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,360 I had total freedom. 975 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,240 Nobody could tell me what to do. 976 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,360 They didn't know what I did. 977 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,000 [Mysterious chiming music] 978 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,360 [Electronic squeaky melody] 979 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,160 - [Male Announcer]: The new Clairol custom care 980 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,720 coon brush. 981 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,520 [Upbeat rock-like music] 982 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,520 - [Male Announcer]: Atari is going to 983 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,560 turn your head around. 984 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,560 [Exploding sound] 985 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:17,960 - [Male Announcer]: Big news from Covergirl. 986 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,240 - There's a whole new thick lash mascara. 987 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,000 [Liquid pouring with electronic bubbling sound] 988 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,160 - The landscape that she must have walked into 989 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,160 must have been like something from Mad Men. 990 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,160 I remember Suzanne telling me stories like 991 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,240 she'd turn up early to set up 992 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,240 all the modular gear in studios 993 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,520 and a young engineer would come in and go, 994 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,720 "Which mic are you going to sing on?" 995 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,240 or, "What are you going to sing for us?" 996 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,080 Because those stereotypes were 997 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,360 so commonplace in studios in those days. 998 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,960 [Upbeat rock music] 999 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,960 - [Suzanne speaking as chords mirror her voice]: 1000 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,240 Welcome to Xenon. 1001 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,600 - More than anybody else, 1002 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:55,240 she built a career out of making weird music, 1003 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,520 which is something I think everybody aspires to. 1004 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,240 She had her own company. 1005 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240 She was able to turn her art into something 1006 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,240 she can live on. 1007 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,520 [Suzanne's sigh is mirrored by a low electronic echo] 1008 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,160 - [Suzanne with a low and echoey voice]: Don't be afraid. 1009 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:14,240 This is my almost male voice. 1010 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,280 [Audience laughs and applauds] 1011 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,240 - Make the thing make noises for us. 1012 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,000 - Okay, let's- 1013 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,960 - Now first of all, why do you have this stuff? 1014 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,600 What do you do with this? 1015 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,960 - Well, this is how I make a living. 1016 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,160 - But I mean, you don't go door-to-door saying, 1017 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,680 I'll make you sound goofy. 1018 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,280 - Yeah, they call me. they call me. 1019 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,000 - They call you. 1020 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:48,240 [Complex wash of sound slowly ascends] 1021 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,520 - [Suzanne] Should I stop? 1022 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,920 - No, let it go for about half an hour. 1023 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,200 [Sound stops] 1024 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,280 That's wonderful. 1025 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,240 [Audience applauds] 1026 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,320 - [Suzanne]: It was 1980. 1027 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,480 I was hired to do a Hollywood feature. 1028 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,080 [Hollow, spinning sound gets progressively higher] 1029 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,240 It was a Lily Tomlin movie. 1030 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,320 Lily was a woman, the head of the production 1031 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,040 at Universal was a woman. 1032 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,200 So I had two women in positions of power. 1033 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,720 And guess what? I got hired. 1034 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,240 - Is that package for me? 1035 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,720 - Mike, it's for me. 1036 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,160 I didn't know I was the first woman 1037 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,160 to be hired to score a major Hollywood feature, 1038 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,360 and I didn't know that it would be 14 years 1039 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,240 until another woman was hired. 1040 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,920 [Hollow, spinning sound gets progressively higher] 1041 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,680 We are casualties of a day-to-day system 1042 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,200 that operates without awareness 1043 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,240 that we're even there. 1044 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,240 ♪ Galaxy glue ♪ 1045 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:56,240 ♪ Life would go to pieces without galaxy glue ♪ 1046 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,680 - [Laurie]: There weren't any women composers 1047 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,280 that I knew of. 1048 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,000 I had never heard of one. 1049 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,160 [Rapid percussive tones] 1050 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,160 Composers were old white dead men. 1051 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,160 It was just not something I ever thought of 1052 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,080 as something I could do. 1053 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360 When they asked me in high school, 1054 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,280 "What would you like to do with your life?" 1055 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,280 I said, "I would love to do music." 1056 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,200 They said, "Totally out of the question. 1057 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,440 "You would have needed to have music lessons 1058 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,520 "all during your childhood." 1059 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,760 So I did a degree in social sciences, 1060 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,560 but secretly I really always wanted to do music. 1061 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,560 After I got my bachelor's and moved to New York, 1062 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,000 I thought, I'm going to regret it 1063 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:42,320 for the rest of my life if I don't give it a real try. 1064 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,560 [Man singing a vocal warm-up] 1065 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,960 I was taking ear training and music at Juilliard 1066 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,160 and happened to be in Mike Czajkowski's class. 1067 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,160 And he was working with Mort Subotnick. 1068 01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:00,160 Mike dragged me down to Mort's studio and it was like 1069 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,800 music went from black and white to color. 1070 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,160 [Complex, drone-like sound expands] 1071 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,160 I fell in love with electronic music. 1072 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,280 It completely changed the way I heard everything. 1073 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,560 The sounds of the traffic in the street 1074 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,200 no longer sounded the same. 1075 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,000 I always wanted to do something in the arts 1076 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,960 that had to do with the real, authentic experience 1077 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,520 of being alive, in contrast to 1078 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,480 the 1950s hypocritical reality in which I lived, 1079 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,200 in which everything was glossed over 1080 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,080 with cotton candy. 1081 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,720 [Spoon banging] 1082 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280 [Upbeat, sweeping classical music] 1083 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,280 - A perfect dinner Judy. 1084 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,280 And you said she couldn't boil water 1085 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,680 without burning it. 1086 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,200 - [Laurie]: I got involved in the downtown art scene, 1087 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,040 which is like "try anything," you know? 1088 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:55,280 [Low drone] 1089 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,760 [Mechanical sounds] 1090 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,920 I tackled learning the Buchla modular analogue system. 1091 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,200 While I could do all kinds of wonderful things with sounds, 1092 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,960 what I really wanted was the precision of the computer. 1093 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,560 I got involved with computers in music out of frustration 1094 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,240 at other ways of doing music, in part, 1095 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,240 and also because of the incredible potential 1096 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:28,240 that they had for combining the best of all other worlds, 1097 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,320 let's say. 1098 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,720 The memory, the logic, 1099 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,720 the ability to actually interact with sound 1100 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:37,360 in real time began to be possible. 1101 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,720 The complete freedom to define 1102 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,240 any kind of world you wanted. 1103 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:49,560 [Warm, fluttering tones] 1104 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:56,560 [Organ-like notes begin] 1105 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,960 [Fluttering tones fade] 1106 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:04,840 [A single, spinning pitch emerges] 1107 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:11,320 [Organ-like notes flutter] 1108 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,160 [A low, moving bass tone emerges] 1109 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,280 [It widens into a splash of sound] 1110 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,360 [Bass tone fades] 1111 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:35,560 [Penetrating electric tones sustain and overlap] 1112 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:40,200 [Bass tone reemerges briefly] 1113 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,720 [Organ-like fluttering continues] 1114 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,320 [Dissonant splash of tones] 1115 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:57,360 [Overlapping electric tones form a friendly melody] 1116 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,960 Computers back then were the enemy of the counterculture. 1117 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,600 Computers belonged to the banks and the military 1118 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240 and the insurance companies. 1119 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,040 Computer music was the utter dehumanisation of music 1120 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,200 rather than, to some few of us, 1121 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,520 the liberation of it. 1122 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,520 - Do you mean to tell me that you haven't heard it? 1123 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,160 - No, I haven't heard it. I haven't heard it. 1124 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,280 Here, play it. 1125 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,360 - [Woman]: It's really terrific, Suzie. 1126 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,840 Wait 'til you hear it. 1127 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,280 - [Man]: Excuse me, ladies. 1128 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,280 I have a special request. 1129 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:42,840 [Upbeat, alternating electronic beeping tones] 1130 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,960 [Upbeat, alternating electronic beeping tones] 1131 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,200 - Laurie Spiegel was a ukulele player 1132 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,960 among other things. 1133 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,280 She had a sense of music that is based in folk idioms, 1134 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,320 and Appalachian Grove 1135 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,160 is one of the earliest computer music pieces 1136 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,480 that anyone would want to listen to [laughs] 1137 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,200 more than once. 1138 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,200 But to think that it was all done 1139 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,280 by punching holes in cards and running them 1140 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,920 through the Bell Labs computer is quite astonishing. 1141 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:36,280 [Upbeat, alternating electronic beeping tones continue] 1142 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,840 - [Laurie]: Technology is just, 1143 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,600 it's a natural extension of man. 1144 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,600 Man has always played with tools. 1145 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,480 Man has always developed tools, 1146 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,080 and it is a tool. 1147 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,360 The machine doesn't write the music. 1148 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,080 You tell the machine what to do, 1149 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,080 and the machine is an extension of you. 1150 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,240 [Phone dialing sounds] 1151 01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,280 Bell Labs was a great, great institution. 1152 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:05,600 Everything changed after the AT&T divestiture happened. 1153 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,560 Bell Labs became product-oriented 1154 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,240 instead of pure research. 1155 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,320 [Faint phone conversations and dialing] 1156 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,280 After I left there, I was absolutely desolate. 1157 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:23,160 I had lost my main creative medium. 1158 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,840 - [Male Interviewer]: Laurie Spiegel, 1159 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,240 you have a very fascinating new product, 1160 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,160 a software program, which you created... 1161 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,160 - Yeah. - ...called Music Mouse. 1162 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,880 Can you tell us a little bit about that? 1163 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,000 - This is actually a program which turns the Macintosh 1164 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,000 into an instrument which you play, 1165 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,960 and unlike traditional instruments, 1166 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,160 on the other hand, it uses the logic 1167 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:48,240 of the computer supportively to musical expression. 1168 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,720 [Uplifting piano music] 1169 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,240 [Melody rises and falls with the horizontal line] 1170 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,800 [Piano chords follow the vertical lines] 1171 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,440 I needed an instrument. 1172 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:02,520 I wanted something which was entirely under my own control 1173 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,200 that didn't have to be marketable 1174 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,160 or it didn't involve funding. 1175 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,800 It was just something entirely mine. 1176 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:14,800 [Melody and chords ascend] 1177 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,040 It's the first time I've done something 1178 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,040 essentially for myself 1179 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,240 that I'm just really making available 1180 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,320 to anybody who wants it, 1181 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,200 and I hope a lot of people really get 1182 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,320 a lot of good music out of it. 1183 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,720 Everybody who's using it seems to be doing 1184 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:25,680 something slightly different. 1185 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,040 So I'll be interested, you know, 1186 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,680 keeping my ears open for whatever you do. 1187 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,040 Mouse ears. 1188 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,720 [Chords ascend then rapidly descend] 1189 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,080 [Sustained notes form a warm blanket of sound] 1190 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,280 [A new piece begins with dissonant, moving notes] 1191 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,760 - She wasn't satisfied with 1192 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,200 the given constraints of what she was working with. 1193 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,680 So she decided to make her own software. 1194 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,760 She just embodies this idea of agency. 1195 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,280 [The piece continues] 1196 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,440 [Each note has both lower tone and a higher, harsh tone] 1197 01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,160 - Her work was very much in the lineage 1198 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,320 with the work of Daphne Oram 1199 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,840 because of her engineering 1200 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,240 of a new language for producing sounds, 1201 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,360 and the support system for other people 1202 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,360 to invent new soundscapes. 1203 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:16,200 [Irregular melody] 1204 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,000 - [Female Interviewer]: What's the most exciting thing 1205 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,360 about the field for you? 1206 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,760 - Well, this is a time at which many people feel 1207 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,080 that there are a lot of dead ends in music, 1208 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,240 that there isn't a lot more to do. 1209 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,040 This is actually... 1210 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,040 I see this and through the technology, 1211 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,240 I experience this as quite the opposite. 1212 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,800 This is a period in which we realise we've only just begun 1213 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,320 to scratch the surface of what's possible musically. 1214 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:51,280 [Energetic, alternating, percussive tones] 1215 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,760 - [Female Narrator]: Through technology, 1216 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,280 voices are amplified, silence is broken, 1217 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,840 spaces are shared. 1218 01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,280 The music in our head 1219 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,920 can finally be heard by others. 1220 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:11,240 [Pigeons cooing] 1221 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:21,520 [Sparrows chirping] 1222 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:27,200 [Wings flapping] 1223 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,160 - [Laurie]: We were, in a way, 1224 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,480 trying to make a bit of a revolution, 1225 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,280 but I don't think we would have put it 1226 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,240 in such grandiose terms. 1227 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,040 We were trying to put music back in touch with itself. 1228 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,240 [Relaxed, low-pitched electronic groove] 1229 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,240 [Buttons clicking] 1230 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,520 - [Suzanne whispering]: Okay, and this has to go here. 1231 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,840 This is here. 1232 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,280 This is... 1233 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:06,320 [Buttons clicking rapidly] 1234 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:13,760 [Robotic beeping] 1235 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,440 There were really no role models for female composers 1236 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,920 when I studied music. 1237 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,520 Overall, we are incrementally getting more visibility, 1238 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,320 but it's two steps forward and one step back. 1239 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,520 And to this day it kind of irks me 1240 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,040 that when I turn on my favorite radio station, 1241 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,680 it's just the male parade. 1242 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,200 [Low tones move over an orchestra of electronic sounds] 1243 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:51,920 [Sounds get choppier, resembling radio tuning] 1244 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,360 [Low drone with a sustained pitch] 1245 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,320 - [Laurie]: It is odd that electronic music, 1246 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,920 it's generally considered a man's field. 1247 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,200 Women have been so formative in it. 1248 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:17,960 [Low drone continues] 1249 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,840 - [Pauline]: There has to be 1250 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,160 a complete change of consciousness 1251 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,200 throughout the musical field, 1252 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,480 where they could begin to teach music that's written 1253 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,800 by women, as well as men, as well as of all colours, 1254 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:36,320 and it would effect a great change. 1255 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,080 Listening is the basis of creativity and culture. 1256 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:45,800 How you're listening is and how you develop a culture. 1257 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,760 And how a community of people listen 1258 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,160 is what creates their culture. 1259 01:17:52,200 --> 01:18:17,080 [Overtones layer over the low drone] 1260 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,120 [Eliane speaking French] 1261 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:35,720 [Overtones swell over the low drone] 1262 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:26,200 [Drone continues] 1263 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,040 - It's quite reassuring to realise that 1264 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,240 I wasn't the only woman making strange electronic music. 1265 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,360 - What relates all of these women 1266 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,080 is this DIY thing. 1267 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,280 And DIY is interesting because it doesn't mean that 1268 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,320 you've explicitly, voluntarily chosen to do it yourself. 1269 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,680 It's that there are certain barriers in place 1270 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:52,280 that don't allow you to do anything. 1271 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,280 If you don't have the visual or the knowledge 1272 01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:01,000 of there being any people in the area of work 1273 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,160 that you're interested in that are similar to you, 1274 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,240 then you don't think that it's possible for you. 1275 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,040 [Low drone swells slightly] 1276 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,200 - There is something psychological 1277 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,320 that happens when you can see yourself in the people 1278 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,200 who are being celebrated. 1279 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,320 [Drone gets softer] 1280 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:24,320 [Air whooshing subtly] 1281 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:31,160 [Drone softens] 1282 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:42,280 [Drone fades away] 1283 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,200 [Air blowing] 1284 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:17,240 [Pleasant electronic chords] 1285 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,040 [Echoey, ethereal singing] ♪ Your eyes are set on stun ♪ 1286 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,360 ♪ You are hotter than the sun ♪ 1287 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,120 ♪ I love to see you shine ♪ 1288 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:31,920 ♪ Because you really blow my mind ♪ 1289 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,400 ♪ Your heart beats like a drum ♪ 1290 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,440 ♪ It hammers when you're gone ♪ 1291 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:37,720 ♪ The terms with you and me are up ♪ 1292 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,520 ♪ Set us free ♪ 1293 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,440 [Relaxed drum beat] 1294 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:44,440 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1295 01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:47,520 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1296 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,520 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1297 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,080 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1298 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,960 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1299 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,320 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1300 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,320 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1301 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,320 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1302 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:17,120 [Uplifting flute-like melody begins] 1303 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,800 ♪ Your eyes are set on stun ♪ 1304 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,320 ♪ You are hotter than the sun ♪ 1305 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,800 ♪ I love to see you shine ♪ 1306 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:31,760 ♪ Because you really blow my mind ♪ 1307 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,560 ♪ Your heart beats like a drum ♪ 1308 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,240 ♪ It hammers when you're gone ♪ 1309 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,560 ♪ The terms with you and me are up ♪ 1310 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,280 ♪ Set us free ♪ 1311 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,240 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1312 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,320 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1313 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,560 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1314 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,880 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1315 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,880 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1316 01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,240 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1317 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,320 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1318 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,240 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1319 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:23,440 [Uplifting flute-like melody repeats] 1320 01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:26,360 ♪ I've seen the rings of Saturn ♪ 1321 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,720 ♪ And the craters on the moon ♪ 1322 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,600 ♪ Oceans of Venus in the middle of June ♪ 1323 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:41,080 ♪ Mirrors of Mercury and Mars' electric skies ♪ 1324 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:47,080 ♪ Pearls of Neptune in Jupiter's eyes ♪ 1325 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,080 ♪ I heard the old man who plays the lake ♪ 1326 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:58,360 ♪ Amazing things will make you want to shake ♪ 1327 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,680 [Sound spins rapidly then slows and becomes deeper] 1328 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:11,000 ♪ A strange planet a zillion lightyears away ♪ 1329 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:20,040 ♪ Through a black hole across the Milky Way ♪ 1330 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,400 [Upbeat synthesiser and percussion music] 1331 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,160 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1332 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,360 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1333 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,440 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1334 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,440 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1335 01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:38,800 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1336 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,160 ♪ Hypnotise me ♪ 1337 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,160 ♪ Humanise me ♪ 1338 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,360 ♪ Energise me ♪ 1339 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,320 ♪ Don't patronise me ♪ 1340 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,320 ♪ Don't glamorise me ♪ 1341 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,640 ♪ Don't paralyse me ♪ 1342 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,040 ♪ You can't surprise me ♪ 1343 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,360 ♪ Harmonise me ♪ 1344 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,360 ♪ Mesmerise me ♪ 1345 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,320 ♪ Solarise me ♪ 1346 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:16,080 ♪ Synchronise me ♪ 1347 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:21,680 ♪ Synthesise me ♪ 1348 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:30,320 [Ethereal spinning sound ascends] 1349 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,400 [Spinning sound descends and fades] 95783

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