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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,701 Then watching the movies there, 2 00:00:34,785 --> 00:00:39,373 it gave me a sense of direction, 3 00:00:39,456 --> 00:00:41,250 what I liked. 4 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:47,130 I like watching good movies, 5 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:49,800 and seeing 6 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:53,637 that life could be many things. 7 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,725 It allowed me to think of 8 00:00:58,809 --> 00:01:01,144 and dream of 9 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:04,356 what I might be able to do. 10 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:08,610 I wasn't sure if I could do it, but 11 00:01:08,694 --> 00:01:12,573 I was already figuring out 12 00:01:12,656 --> 00:01:15,617 that this is something that I would like to do 13 00:01:15,701 --> 00:01:19,079 and work in this kind of environment in the movies. 14 00:01:38,348 --> 00:01:40,475 Yeah, I was born in Cyprus, 15 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:44,980 small island in Eastern Mediterranean Sea. 16 00:01:47,316 --> 00:01:53,989 These villages, maybe there was 40, 45 people living here. 17 00:01:54,072 --> 00:01:55,866 It was a very simple town. 18 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:57,993 People lived very simple. 19 00:01:58,076 --> 00:02:01,121 Fishing, some had a few goats. 20 00:02:01,204 --> 00:02:05,834 It was a carefree period in Cyprus. 21 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:09,087 Money wasn't the end goal. 22 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:12,841 It was just surviving, 23 00:02:12,924 --> 00:02:15,761 raising your big family. 24 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:18,347 My grandfather, my grandmother had nine kids. 25 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:21,725 My father was the oldest one. 26 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:25,145 Life was easy-going. 27 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:29,524 Playing soccer in the street, going to school. 28 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:42,537 This was a mixed village. 29 00:02:42,621 --> 00:02:47,334 We lived together with a lot of love with our Turkish Cypriots 30 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:50,504 and the Greek Cypriots as laborers in France 31 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:54,508 and this is their mosque 32 00:02:54,591 --> 00:02:56,301 and this is our church, 33 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:59,221 coexisting together. 34 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:02,557 So living in a mixed village like this, 35 00:03:02,641 --> 00:03:07,354 it was maybe a good basis that I had to coexist 36 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:09,981 with different people. 37 00:03:10,065 --> 00:03:14,986 So I had no problem with adjusting in New York. 38 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:19,658 So basically, in our Cypress tradition, 39 00:03:19,741 --> 00:03:23,161 the father of the bride usually, 40 00:03:23,245 --> 00:03:25,330 even if they're very poor, 41 00:03:25,414 --> 00:03:26,957 even if it's just one house, 42 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,127 you'll split it into two smaller houses 43 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:34,256 to give the daughter because the mother is very important 44 00:03:34,339 --> 00:03:36,258 in our tradition, 45 00:03:36,341 --> 00:03:40,929 it's the mother that takes care of 46 00:03:41,012 --> 00:03:44,433 going to the next generation. 47 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:48,937 In those years, my mother didn't have a father. 48 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:50,814 She was an orphan, 49 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:53,734 so they didn't have a lot of money. 50 00:03:53,817 --> 00:03:58,822 So my grandmother bought the cheapest piece of land, 51 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:02,951 which was always away from the center of town 52 00:04:03,034 --> 00:04:05,412 where the church is and the mosque. 53 00:04:05,495 --> 00:04:08,331 So she bought it all the way up here because in those years, 54 00:04:08,415 --> 00:04:10,500 there was no houses up here, 55 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:16,715 to build the little couple of rooms for the daughters. 56 00:04:18,341 --> 00:04:20,218 And my father, 57 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:23,096 I remember he always was cursing 58 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:25,390 for having to climb this. 59 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:28,143 - To go up. - I don't blame him. 60 00:04:28,226 --> 00:04:32,522 It must be hot as fucking hell in the summertime. 61 00:04:35,317 --> 00:04:39,905 So he finally had enough and moved to the city. 62 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:50,832 So this was our house in the village. 63 00:04:57,714 --> 00:05:01,551 This is a typical Cyprus outdoor oven. 64 00:05:01,635 --> 00:05:04,679 Everything seems so smooth now. 65 00:05:04,763 --> 00:05:07,140 I remember we had a wedding here, 66 00:05:07,224 --> 00:05:09,976 believe it or not, in this small area. 67 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:12,604 Cooking in the outdoor oven, 68 00:05:12,687 --> 00:05:14,606 it was our favorite pastime, 69 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:18,485 you know, when meat was meat. 70 00:05:24,282 --> 00:05:27,327 Nobody's home though. 71 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:52,394 So at about 12, 13 years old, 72 00:05:52,477 --> 00:05:54,604 I had to drop out of school 73 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:59,901 and go with the boat, fishing every day. 74 00:05:59,985 --> 00:06:05,323 That's the way they used to make a living those days. 75 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:07,200 So if he brings fish, 76 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:10,787 my grandfather would sell it to the nearby towns. 77 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:12,956 We'd all make money. 78 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:14,958 If he didn't bring fish, 79 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:18,086 sometimes he told me he would go 80 00:06:18,169 --> 00:06:21,840 without eating to punish him. 81 00:06:21,923 --> 00:06:25,385 So he always brought fish. 82 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:27,512 In those days it was just my father 83 00:06:27,596 --> 00:06:31,516 with a small boat like this. 84 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,436 Fish wasn't so popular those days. 85 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:38,982 The rich people ate meat. 86 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,735 Now it's reverse. 87 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:45,780 Fish is the way to go. 88 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:54,122 See this, this stays on top. 89 00:06:55,874 --> 00:07:00,170 Many times when you come back after fishing, 90 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,048 you have to repair all this. 91 00:07:03,131 --> 00:07:04,633 It was hard work. 92 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:06,635 It wasn't easy work in those years, 93 00:07:06,718 --> 00:07:08,637 you couldn't sell fish. 94 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,307 People wouldn't pay for fish. 95 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:17,938 That's why my father and my mother moved to Limassol. 96 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:21,483 So he worked at the port, at the sea port. 97 00:07:29,532 --> 00:07:32,702 We moved to Limassol afterwards. 98 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:35,705 This is like a 25-minute ride, but it's a bigger city. 99 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:37,624 It's a big city. 100 00:07:37,707 --> 00:07:42,170 When I say big city, then it was maybe 50,000, 60,000 people. 101 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:46,216 Now it's probably double. 102 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:51,846 This place remains the old part of Limassol, 103 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:55,600 got the movie theater here, 104 00:07:55,684 --> 00:07:59,354 and the little shops, restaurants around the area, 105 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:03,483 and this is where everybody gathered to celebrate anything. 106 00:08:09,072 --> 00:08:11,741 I don't remember what I saw, maybe I was five, six years. 107 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:14,369 Five years old. 108 00:08:14,452 --> 00:08:19,416 Yeah, those days you saved five caps. 109 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,669 Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola was sold in bottles. 110 00:08:22,752 --> 00:08:24,963 You get free admission to the movie. 111 00:08:25,046 --> 00:08:29,300 So that's how we came to see our first movies here. 112 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:22,979 This is our cinema where everybody came, 113 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,231 especially on weekends. 114 00:09:25,315 --> 00:09:30,278 Now it's used as a multifunction theater 115 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:35,700 for not only movies, but singers and culture, 116 00:09:35,784 --> 00:09:38,328 like a cultural center. 117 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:40,246 You see, they've done a beautiful job 118 00:09:40,330 --> 00:09:44,501 to bring it back to how it was years ago 119 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:49,964 and we are very grateful to whoever did this 120 00:09:50,048 --> 00:09:54,344 because as you know, sometimes modern, 121 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:59,516 when you modernize, you destroy a lot of history. 122 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:01,184 "Moving Target," ” Paul Newman. 123 00:10:01,267 --> 00:10:03,394 Let's see if we find any good movies. 124 00:10:03,478 --> 00:10:05,563 Yeah, there is some, there we go. 125 00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:08,358 Some Double-O Seven action right over there. 126 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:11,528 James Bond, James Bond, what year is this? 127 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:16,032 - '66, '67. - Oh, you know who's in this? 128 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,201 - Who's this? - Giancarlo Giannini. 129 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,537 "Seven Beauties"” and "Swept Away." 130 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:23,665 Yeah, "Swept Away." 131 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:24,916 Charles Bronson. 132 00:10:24,999 --> 00:10:26,399 This is the money-maker right there. 133 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:28,253 - Who's this? - Yeah. 134 00:10:28,336 --> 00:10:31,172 Now the black exploitation movies, they got them all going, 135 00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:33,109 come on, this is the history of the cinema here. 136 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,135 Yeah, this is history of cinema. 137 00:10:35,218 --> 00:10:36,803 And then going to New York, 138 00:10:36,886 --> 00:10:40,306 was this like a family decision or your mother wanted to do it? 139 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:44,727 My father's sister was there for many years 140 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:47,772 and she mentioned it to us. 141 00:10:47,856 --> 00:10:50,608 If you had a brother or a sister, 142 00:10:50,692 --> 00:10:53,653 you could legally come to the United States. 143 00:10:53,736 --> 00:10:56,322 So we saw it as an opportunity 144 00:10:56,406 --> 00:11:01,244 to move from Cyprus to New York. 145 00:11:02,912 --> 00:11:05,623 Honestly, I was super excited, 146 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:08,168 super excited inside of me. 147 00:11:08,251 --> 00:11:10,670 I said, "This is great." 148 00:11:10,753 --> 00:11:13,256 You know, I want to go to New York. 149 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:15,175 Not that I knew what New York was like, 150 00:11:15,258 --> 00:11:19,470 but there was excitement for me to go. 151 00:11:19,554 --> 00:11:21,514 Guys, take your coffee. 152 00:11:21,598 --> 00:11:23,349 So I was a teenager, 153 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:28,396 12 years old going from Limassol, 154 00:11:28,479 --> 00:11:31,608 a small town, to New York. 155 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:36,279 This good friend of mine, she told me 156 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:39,532 it wasn't the best thing that happened to you as a kid 157 00:11:39,616 --> 00:11:41,326 because you've grown up, 158 00:11:41,409 --> 00:11:43,912 your hormones are changing, 159 00:11:43,995 --> 00:11:46,497 your place of surroundings and all that. 160 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:48,917 But despite all that, 161 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,837 despite all that, I managed and I love New York 162 00:11:52,921 --> 00:11:58,343 and I feel grateful 163 00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:02,472 for being able to do whatever I accomplished, 164 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:04,140 whatever little I accomplished, 165 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,476 it gives me great satisfaction. 166 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,562 And I could not do it here. 167 00:12:09,646 --> 00:12:12,065 Only in a place like New York. 168 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:15,026 So here's to New York. 169 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:30,875 Basically we went from here to Heathrow 170 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:34,837 and Heathrow to JFK. 171 00:12:34,921 --> 00:12:37,799 It was me, my mother, and my sister, 172 00:12:37,882 --> 00:12:41,844 because my brother and my father went there a few months earlier. 173 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:46,599 That was in 1970 and there's an escalator and we said, 174 00:12:46,683 --> 00:12:48,518 "What the hell is that?" 175 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:52,355 And my mother refused to take the escalator, 176 00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:55,108 so we had to go through the steps, 177 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:57,860 because we didn't know what it was. 178 00:12:57,944 --> 00:13:00,071 The escalator in the airport. 179 00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:07,453 I come to New York, I basically... 180 00:13:07,537 --> 00:13:09,706 All I knew how to say is, 181 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:12,667 this is a cat. 182 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:17,255 My name is Nicolas, that's about it. 183 00:13:17,338 --> 00:13:23,511 But very quickly, because I went to regular public school, 184 00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,930 I learned very quickly. 185 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:28,433 In six months I was doing really good 186 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:31,894 and really doing good in school too. 187 00:13:31,978 --> 00:13:34,897 And then I went to junior high school. 188 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:38,026 I was a good student, 189 00:13:38,109 --> 00:13:43,698 but then junior high school, I really wanted to get a job. 190 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:52,832 From Astoria this was the first stop with the train. 191 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:55,877 So I came in this area looking for a job. 192 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:04,427 Across the street from Bloomingdale's. 193 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,637 This is where it was happening. 194 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:08,765 Third Avenue and 59th street, 195 00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:12,602 Baronet & Coronet Cinema 1,2, & 3. 196 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:15,021 The greatest movies played here. 197 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:18,983 If you had any great movie, it opened up here. 198 00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:23,071 These theaters opened in the early sixties, like '61, '62, 199 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:25,281 and then everybody in this business 200 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:28,868 started building around it to capture some of this business. 201 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:31,704 I mean, the lines were all over around the corners. 202 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:34,415 It was unbelievable here. 203 00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:38,419 Baronet & Coronet came down a long time ago in this building. 204 00:14:38,503 --> 00:14:40,838 - The Baronet was right here. - It was right here, bro, 205 00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:42,082 - I'm telling you. - Right here. 206 00:14:42,131 --> 00:14:43,466 Cinema 1,2, &3 207 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:47,178 is the only one that's still around. 208 00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:49,722 - You know what Peekskill is? - No. 209 00:14:49,806 --> 00:14:51,891 We'd come down, get fucking lost. 210 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:55,019 Park our car, get all this shit ripped off. 211 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:56,229 Come here. 212 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:58,314 Stand in line for an hour. 213 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:01,526 My favorite biggest movie we saw here was "Putney Swope." 214 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:04,112 - Do you know "Putney Swope"? - No. 215 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:05,488 You know the movie, right? 216 00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:10,952 It's a big super-duper star's father, Robert Downey. 217 00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:13,413 Then we saw one of the actors on the street. 218 00:15:13,496 --> 00:15:17,875 For guys from PeekskKill, that was a big, big, big movie. 219 00:15:17,959 --> 00:15:21,045 You were voted in here on a jive hummer. 220 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:25,383 Now how, when are things gonna happen, man? 221 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,718 Your whole cart has been peeped. 222 00:15:27,802 --> 00:15:29,470 When are things gonna start to change? 223 00:15:29,554 --> 00:15:31,806 Where is the revolution you were talking about? 224 00:15:31,889 --> 00:15:33,599 There ain't nothing happening. 225 00:15:33,683 --> 00:15:37,854 There is no revolution, the way you're running this joint, man. 226 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,939 Now when is something gonna happen? 227 00:15:40,022 --> 00:15:42,066 When you gonna do it? When and how? 228 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:43,150 What day? 229 00:15:43,192 --> 00:15:44,694 Give me a time, man. 230 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,363 Show me how progress is gonna be made. 231 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,907 There ain't no progress the way this is running now. 232 00:15:49,991 --> 00:15:51,784 This is Sonny Williams. 233 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:57,540 What do you got to say for yourself, Sonny? 234 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:09,760 Don't feel bad. 235 00:16:22,356 --> 00:16:25,193 Now there's a man who is doing something. 236 00:16:25,276 --> 00:16:27,320 That is a revolution, man. 237 00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:28,571 Don't you understand? 238 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,239 When are you gonna start? 239 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:33,117 When are you gonna do something? 240 00:16:33,201 --> 00:16:40,458 So RKO Warner built two theaters here in late sixties. 241 00:16:40,541 --> 00:16:44,212 Two 400-seat theaters. 242 00:16:44,295 --> 00:16:47,882 And I went there and I told them I was a 17. 243 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:52,345 They gave me a job and I started working there in these theaters. 244 00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:54,764 Right here was the entry to one theater 245 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,557 and the entry to the other theater. 246 00:16:56,641 --> 00:17:00,269 And this was the box office, right here where this wall is. 247 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:01,812 It was the box office. 248 00:17:01,896 --> 00:17:05,024 You buy your ticket, you go to twin one or twin two. 249 00:17:09,237 --> 00:17:13,324 I worked there as a doorman, an usher, a concession. 250 00:17:13,407 --> 00:17:16,202 I used to change the marquee for extra money. 251 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:18,371 In that RKO 59th Street, 252 00:17:18,454 --> 00:17:23,459 I used to even clean the theater after closing 253 00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:26,128 because that gave you an extra salary 254 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:30,424 and I was able to get to school by eight in the morning, 255 00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:33,094 sometimes late but I got there. 256 00:17:33,177 --> 00:17:35,680 I worked around full time, 257 00:17:35,763 --> 00:17:41,060 I think it was $2.00 an hour, 1972, '73, 258 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:44,105 but over there I worked like a manager almost. 259 00:17:44,188 --> 00:17:48,025 Not the manager, but a night manager. 260 00:17:48,109 --> 00:17:50,027 It was easy work, I mean, you just sit there. 261 00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:52,363 You could read, people go through a turnstile. 262 00:17:52,446 --> 00:17:54,532 You didn't really have to do too much. 263 00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:01,789 We showed 35 millimeter. 264 00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:04,959 We used to show repertory films for a decade 265 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:07,253 where we played all the movies, 266 00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:09,005 change every couple of days. 267 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,800 Like "Last Tango in Paris" and Pasolini, all the movies. 268 00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:31,360 I knew watching the movies, I was a very quiet kid. 269 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:34,030 Watching the movies that, this is magic. 270 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:40,161 It just hit me inside my soul that this is really terrific. 271 00:18:40,244 --> 00:18:44,040 And I started dreaming in my head, making my own movie, 272 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,334 and I was calculating too, because I was a little bit 273 00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:49,045 of a businessman, how much money do I need 274 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,339 to open up a place like this? 275 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,677 So I had to make some quick money. 276 00:18:56,761 --> 00:19:01,724 So across the street was an upscale adult film. 277 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:05,227 In the '70s this was pretty big, and the early '80s. 278 00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:07,438 It was called the Lido East. 279 00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:11,942 It was the east side to the Pussycat Theater. 280 00:19:12,026 --> 00:19:13,903 So this glass building right here 281 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:18,366 was the famous Lido East Theater. 282 00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:21,452 It played day and date with the Pussycat Theater on Broadway. 283 00:19:21,535 --> 00:19:24,288 - Which building? - This was the Lido East. 284 00:19:24,372 --> 00:19:26,749 So I worked here for about a year. 285 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:29,794 I doubled my salary from RKO Warner. 286 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:04,453 So I went over there and asked him for a job 287 00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:08,999 and I worked there for about a year 288 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,502 to make some quick money. 289 00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:37,486 And then I said, okay, I had enough of this, 290 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,572 I made some money. 291 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:42,199 And there was another theater on 59th Street 292 00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,785 called the D.W. Griffith. 293 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:48,914 So I got a job over there working as a manager. 294 00:20:50,958 --> 00:20:54,503 And it ends up that these people that own the Griffith 295 00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:56,839 also own the 59th Street 296 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:59,842 and a bunch of other family theaters, 297 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:03,345 but also adult theaters because those years, 298 00:21:03,429 --> 00:21:06,140 adult was very big. 299 00:21:06,223 --> 00:21:08,976 My boss was Chelly Wilson. 300 00:21:09,059 --> 00:21:12,229 She was a woman that came from Greece. 301 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:15,608 When the Nazis came in Greece, she's Jewish, 302 00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:18,319 she left Greece and came to New York 303 00:21:18,402 --> 00:21:21,447 and she opened up the first adult theaters 304 00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:24,241 where the girls were playing volleyball 305 00:21:24,325 --> 00:21:28,829 and their tits bouncing up and down, 306 00:21:28,913 --> 00:21:35,127 and she started all these adult movie theaters in New York. 307 00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:55,731 She had the Eros, the Venus, the Cameo, the Adonis. 308 00:21:58,442 --> 00:22:02,112 She was a tough woman and she worked with other people 309 00:22:02,196 --> 00:22:04,323 like the guys from the Pussycat. 310 00:22:04,406 --> 00:22:07,284 They cooperated together. 311 00:22:07,368 --> 00:22:10,579 Actually this whole building is Richard Basciano. 312 00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:15,251 Richard Basciano was the biggest guy on Times Square. 313 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,878 He died a few months ago. 314 00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:20,130 This whole building is worth a lot of money. 315 00:22:20,214 --> 00:22:26,387 She had all these adult actresses have live performance. 316 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:29,932 It was the multiplex of those days. 317 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:33,727 So all these people worked together. 318 00:22:33,811 --> 00:22:38,816 It's the same woman and a Greek man and another Jewish lady 319 00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:40,442 that lived on the East Side. 320 00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:42,111 Very old people. 321 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:47,908 Lee Pomeranz was one that lived on the East Side. 322 00:22:47,992 --> 00:22:50,536 Chelly Wilson and Nick Justin. 323 00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:52,288 Wilson used to live right upstairs 324 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:55,624 from a gay porno theater. 325 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,294 With their home office right there 326 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:03,215 across the street where the bar is. 327 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,676 So that was three adult theaters there. 328 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:10,639 The Venus, the Eros, and the Capri. 329 00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:15,019 Upstairs was Chelly Wilson's house. 330 00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:17,938 The Eros was right there where that Cafe Expresso is 331 00:23:18,022 --> 00:23:20,858 and next to it was the Venus. 332 00:24:02,191 --> 00:24:03,984 Nick Justin, the Greek guy 333 00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:08,197 because she was more into the art film and the art scene. 334 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,492 Besides being a partner in the adult business, 335 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:15,245 he had a fancy office at 1501 Broadway, 336 00:24:15,329 --> 00:24:18,832 you know, in Times Square where the ball comes down. 337 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:20,918 The old Paramount Theater. 338 00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:24,088 I worked out of that office basically. 339 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,218 About a year after working as a manager, 340 00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:35,641 their general manager that run about a dozen theaters, 341 00:24:35,724 --> 00:24:39,019 left with a girl, 342 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:40,646 a younger girl. 343 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:43,273 Left his wife and kids. 344 00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:48,737 Left the job and they had nobody to go around to the theaters. 345 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:50,823 So somebody called me up and they said, 346 00:24:50,906 --> 00:24:57,037 "Nick, can you cover Ted while he's away 347 00:24:57,121 --> 00:24:59,206 until we see what happens?” 348 00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:01,750 So they gave me his car and I started going around 349 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:04,211 to the theaters. 350 00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:08,215 At the time I was even going to Hunter College, 351 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:13,262 but I got so interested in the operations 352 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:16,640 and Ted never came back 353 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:19,852 and I ended up being a general manager 354 00:25:19,935 --> 00:25:22,271 for about a dozen theaters. 355 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:24,023 Half of them were art theaters 356 00:25:24,106 --> 00:25:26,775 and half of them were adult theaters. 357 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:31,030 The adult theaters were doing good cash money. 358 00:25:31,113 --> 00:25:32,489 That was cash, cash. 359 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:01,435 - You got to be kidding. - What? 360 00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:04,813 - This is a dirty movie. - No, no. 361 00:26:04,897 --> 00:26:07,858 This is a movie that a lot of couples come to. 362 00:26:07,941 --> 00:26:10,069 All kinds of couples go here. 363 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:12,279 - You sure about that? - Yeah. 364 00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:14,698 Yeah, I see them all the time. 365 00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:18,786 Come on. 366 00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:02,496 The cost, those years, was so much less 367 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:04,706 to do business in New York. 368 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,376 Those were the times when people just, I mean, 369 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:12,756 we saw like sold-out shows for porno movies, 370 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,635 and the film repertory we used to sell out in this theater, 371 00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:20,556 The Cinema Village, every single seat. 372 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:23,684 I mean, people would line up to see all those. 373 00:27:23,767 --> 00:27:28,438 "Last Tango in Paris" and all these other movies, art movies. 374 00:27:28,522 --> 00:27:30,983 After a year of doing this with college, 375 00:27:31,066 --> 00:27:32,901 I had to drop out of college 376 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:37,865 because it was too much time consuming to do both. 377 00:27:37,948 --> 00:27:42,578 But I... this business just took me over. 378 00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:48,000 There was a big education for me to go around 379 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:49,877 to all these theaters, watch these people, 380 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,045 how they operate their business. 381 00:27:52,129 --> 00:27:57,801 I learned everything I know in that period because my luck, 382 00:27:57,885 --> 00:28:02,139 they were old and they didn't want to do anything anymore. 383 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:05,434 And here they had a young kid that they trusted, 384 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:07,728 with the money. 385 00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:42,012 Nick Justin dies and he leaves, 386 00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:45,641 as an executrix, Chelly Wilson's daughter. 387 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:49,019 So one of the things that was selling out to people 388 00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:52,105 was the D.W. Griffith Theater 389 00:28:52,189 --> 00:28:54,566 because it didn't make that much money 390 00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:56,944 and it didn't have a long lease. 391 00:28:57,027 --> 00:28:59,529 It only had a few, two, three-year lease. 392 00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:01,365 Yeah, it was an art theater. 393 00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:06,328 I bought that business from Bondi for about $160,000. 394 00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:12,584 I got about $35,000 left and all the money that I saved, 395 00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:15,087 and then the opportunity comes about 396 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,923 where these people I worked for, they told me, 397 00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:21,343 why don't you just give the keys back 398 00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:23,095 for that theater on Third Avenue, 399 00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:25,097 which showed the adult movies? 400 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:27,641 It was the Jewel Theater. 401 00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:30,727 My mind started thinking, why give it up? 402 00:29:30,811 --> 00:29:33,897 I need something to generate money. 403 00:29:33,981 --> 00:29:35,774 So I took it over. 404 00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:40,570 I give the landlord like $15,000 deposit. 405 00:29:40,654 --> 00:29:43,907 We started fixing up the place. 406 00:29:43,991 --> 00:29:46,994 We put new carpets, we redid the seats, 407 00:29:47,077 --> 00:29:49,162 make the place look nice. 408 00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:55,460 Meantime, we made a cash business grow, 409 00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:59,715 so I had cash flow from that business every week. 410 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,009 Cineplex continued its buying spree 411 00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:04,303 by adding a thousand new screens to a circuit 412 00:30:04,386 --> 00:30:08,056 that now boasted 1,800 screens in 500 locations 413 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,350 in North America and the UK. 414 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:12,769 Drabinsky spared no expense when buying, 415 00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:15,230 building, and renovating each theater. 416 00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:17,441 He outspent his competitors two to one 417 00:30:17,524 --> 00:30:19,359 in construction costs. 418 00:30:19,443 --> 00:30:21,987 Every theater had to be bigger, better. 419 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:25,282 To cover his expenses, he raised ticket prices, 420 00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:29,494 arguing he offered a superior movie-going experience. 421 00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:34,166 In the '80s, Cineplex Odeon came to town. 422 00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:37,294 They wanted to buy all the theaters. 423 00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:41,006 They wanted to have control of the movie theater industry. 424 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:45,510 So they approached me and they wanted to buy the theater. 425 00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,305 They offered me like a million and a half. 426 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:50,599 I was just a kid then, so I didn't understand 427 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:54,394 big business, and this guy wanted the theater. 428 00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:58,065 So they came into town with a private plane, 429 00:30:58,148 --> 00:31:01,985 I went to their offices, some office over here, 430 00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:05,822 and I'm sitting with the guy, I'm making the deal 431 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:09,326 and I realized that this guy's a real professional. 432 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,787 By the time I left, he wasn't going to give me 433 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:15,916 a million and a half, maybe $500,000 and get out. 434 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:18,710 And I just didn't know what to do. 435 00:31:18,794 --> 00:31:22,214 So I told the guy, I'm sorry, I have to go to the bathroom. 436 00:31:22,297 --> 00:31:25,300 And I just walked out. 437 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,886 I went to the coffee shop, some good coffee shop, 438 00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:31,264 I had a hamburger, 439 00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:34,226 and then this guy was calling all over for me. 440 00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,561 Not that this deal was so important to them, 441 00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:39,272 but he had to go to Washington, D.C., 442 00:31:39,356 --> 00:31:41,817 and the private plane was waiting to buy 443 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,237 another 18 theaters in Washington, D.C. 444 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,073 So he was getting a little bit upset, 445 00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:50,492 and as they told me afterwards, 446 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:53,120 Drabinsky, they had a voice call from Canada. 447 00:31:53,203 --> 00:31:55,247 He says, "Where's this fucking kid? 448 00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:57,165 Didn't he sign already? 449 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,750 You didn't get this kid yet?" 450 00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:01,086 Anyway, by the time they reached me, 451 00:32:01,169 --> 00:32:03,922 my lawyer told me, "Why'd you walk away?" 452 00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:05,715 I said, "Listen, I'm not coming back." 453 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,884 This guy said he'd pay me a million and a half. 454 00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:11,012 I want a million and a half, otherwise I don't come back. 455 00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:13,557 I'm not giving up the theater.” 456 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,518 So they just wrote me a check. 457 00:32:16,601 --> 00:32:18,562 That was my first big check. 458 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,897 That's how you do it, guys. 459 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:44,296 This is my mom's village, Kalavasos, 460 00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:47,549 and she was born here 461 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:51,636 and in 1970 went to New York. 462 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,972 And in 1983 she died. 463 00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:57,684 She was only 59 years old. 464 00:32:57,767 --> 00:33:00,979 She lived a difficult life. 465 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,940 She was an orphan from her father. 466 00:33:04,024 --> 00:33:06,026 And then she also had a difficult life 467 00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:08,195 because she married my father. 468 00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:11,281 Another difficult man. 469 00:33:11,364 --> 00:33:14,701 To my good luck, she was cleaning the houses, 470 00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:18,038 the apartments, the hallways, 471 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:22,209 and she was a big... Very, very good with money. 472 00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:24,252 She saved a few dollars. 473 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:27,214 I remember when I got my first good job 474 00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:29,257 and I had some money and I just said, 475 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:32,969 "Mama, let's go out to this nice restaurant in New York," 476 00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:37,390 and she did get dressed and we drove with the car, 477 00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:40,101 and when she saw the restaurant, 478 00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,604 she saw it was a little fancy restaurant. 479 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,106 She says, "Oh, come on son, let's go. 480 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,360 It's enough, I saw it, let's go home." 481 00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:50,987 She refused to go spend money, 482 00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:57,327 but in any event, she did manage to save $27,000 in 1983, 483 00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:01,706 secretly, and that money was handed to me 484 00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:07,629 and I was also in my... About 27 years old. 485 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:12,634 I felt a very big obligation that this woman, my mother, 486 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:15,387 sacrificed so much to save this much money. 487 00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:23,353 So I felt I needed to make the best that I could, 488 00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:28,692 and what I did that's... Within one year 489 00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:32,862 of my mother's death, I was in business. 490 00:34:32,946 --> 00:34:35,198 I opened my first movie theater, 491 00:34:35,282 --> 00:34:40,620 that only cost me about $30,000 anyway to do. 492 00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:46,543 And from there I started making very good money 493 00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:48,920 and hundreds of thousands of dollars. 494 00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:52,757 It's a playground where the kids come and play 495 00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:55,343 and the park was named after her 496 00:34:55,427 --> 00:35:01,766 and this is for the people that lived in her village. 497 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:05,979 So this is the least I thought we could do 498 00:35:06,062 --> 00:35:08,398 because it's not the amount of money, 499 00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:12,777 it's that you know that person that gave it to you, 500 00:35:12,861 --> 00:35:17,490 gave it to you with a lot of sacrifice and a lot of love. 501 00:35:17,574 --> 00:35:20,994 That is what drove me, 502 00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:24,497 in my own way, to succeed, economically at least. 503 00:35:42,766 --> 00:35:47,604 I remember that I admired Nick even before I met him. 504 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:51,566 I knew his father that was visiting Cyprus, 505 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:55,278 spending time with us, and I knew of this kid 506 00:35:55,362 --> 00:36:01,951 that was a hard-working kid that made himself. 507 00:36:02,035 --> 00:36:05,664 He helped all his family to change their life 508 00:36:05,747 --> 00:36:09,417 from being like a poor and working... 509 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:10,835 - And happy. - Yes. 510 00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:14,172 And Nick visited Cyprus after 20 years. 511 00:36:14,255 --> 00:36:19,094 I was 22 so I was happy to meet Nick 512 00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:23,723 and also show him around Cyprus. 513 00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:25,934 And then the day at the park, 514 00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:29,646 I was impressed that, although everybody was running 515 00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:36,903 to be with the president and to take pictures 516 00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:41,282 and enjoy that day, 517 00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:43,785 Nick was by me 518 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:51,376 and he was very, very nice and very polite. 519 00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:58,466 I only came here for a week because the park 520 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:00,885 and I felt an obligation to come there. 521 00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:02,679 I didn't want to be ignorant. 522 00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:04,973 So I came here for a week 523 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:09,060 and I really had no other intention. 524 00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:13,606 But when I first saw Christiana, 525 00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:16,359 just something hit me 526 00:37:16,443 --> 00:37:21,990 and I knew that I had to use every trick 527 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:23,658 I saw in the movies. 528 00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:31,082 And then her friend, and to me inside of me, 529 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:36,004 it's like my mother was the reason I came here 530 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:37,756 and then I meet Christiana. 531 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:39,758 I wasn't really looking. 532 00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:42,343 I never thought I would leave my country 533 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:45,722 and I've, you know, it was... But I really felt 534 00:37:45,805 --> 00:37:51,060 that I didn't want to lose him. 535 00:37:51,144 --> 00:37:54,147 So without even thinking about it, it was, the answer was yes. 536 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:55,982 - Did you go back with him? - No. 537 00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:58,693 He told me I'm going to go back and take care of things 538 00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:01,905 - and come back. - And come back and marry you. 539 00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:04,115 Yeah, the next day he went there, he called me. 540 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,159 He goes on, when are we getting married? 541 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:08,620 I said, we just decided. 542 00:38:08,703 --> 00:38:12,582 I said, okay, but a few days went by 543 00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:14,209 and I couldn't stay away. 544 00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:17,295 I felt so... I wanted to see him. 545 00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:21,174 So I went and to find him in New York. 546 00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:25,345 He said that he was planning to come back here, 547 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:27,472 but he never did. 548 00:38:27,555 --> 00:38:29,516 So yeah. 549 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,936 You never leave New York. 550 00:38:46,866 --> 00:38:50,954 So between Third Avenue giving me the cash flow 551 00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:53,081 and then making that deal on 59th Street 552 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:56,876 for a million and a half, gave me a good starting money 553 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,296 to look into other theaters. 554 00:39:05,301 --> 00:39:08,471 I kept looking for theaters all over 555 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:11,224 that were not doing so well. 556 00:39:11,307 --> 00:39:15,687 Theaters that were maybe up for sale 557 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,981 that needed fixing and things like that. 558 00:39:18,064 --> 00:39:21,651 So I opened up at one time a movie theater 559 00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:25,029 up by Columbia University, 560 00:39:25,113 --> 00:39:27,115 the Columbia Cinema, 561 00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:30,159 and we had a nice big premiere of "La Bamba" there. 562 00:39:30,243 --> 00:39:33,079 And meantime, some of their adult theaters, 563 00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:37,667 they just were walking away from them because they were old. 564 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,419 The business was dying. 565 00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:42,255 Early '80s, these theaters were on their way out. 566 00:39:42,338 --> 00:39:45,717 So I caught those theaters on the way out. 567 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,802 So I was building up my art theaters 568 00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:50,221 and the regular movie theaters, 569 00:39:50,305 --> 00:39:55,977 but I took a shot by taking one of those old operations 570 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,938 to keep them going, to make some money, 571 00:39:59,022 --> 00:40:00,940 some more cash flow. 572 00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:19,667 So that was a cash flow place for me 573 00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:23,296 because it was making some money 574 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:27,467 and I focused a little bit more on it 575 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:30,637 and I doubled the profits there. 576 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,264 You do anything like they do to any regular theater, 577 00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:36,434 you have to upgrade it, you have to clean it up, 578 00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,978 put new furnishings, 579 00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:43,483 make it a nicer experience for the patron. 580 00:40:43,566 --> 00:40:46,611 People do appreciate it. 581 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:49,197 She ever see you kiss a man? 582 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,783 No. 583 00:41:06,005 --> 00:41:09,801 Well, basically a place where people met mostly. 584 00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:12,387 A lot of people just went there to meet. 585 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:15,473 They also had partnerships in the bath, 586 00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:18,685 which I never dealt with. 587 00:41:20,937 --> 00:41:22,689 This is a movie theater, 588 00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:24,774 this is what movies I wanted to see. 589 00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:28,903 Now, whether you go there to hang out and meet somebody 590 00:41:28,987 --> 00:41:30,571 or what's the difference? 591 00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,616 I mean, what do you do today on the internet 592 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:35,702 that it's available everywhere? 593 00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:04,457 Yeah, the city was pressured. 594 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:06,250 That was the years of Giuliani. 595 00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:08,669 They basically wanted to clean Times Square out, 596 00:43:08,753 --> 00:43:12,507 so they expanded their whole policy 597 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,258 throughout the city. 598 00:43:14,342 --> 00:43:17,887 They went around and making these charges 599 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:21,349 to all adult theaters. 600 00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:26,521 So if they saw somebody doing something, 601 00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,439 then they had reason to shut you down. 602 00:43:28,523 --> 00:43:30,817 So they shut me down and then I reopened. 603 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,070 But as long as you did things legal, 604 00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:36,072 they couldn't close you. 605 00:43:36,155 --> 00:43:39,826 Wouldn't police every patron. 606 00:43:39,909 --> 00:43:43,663 You know, things could happen. 607 00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:45,873 Things happen in regular theaters, 608 00:43:45,957 --> 00:43:47,750 if you notice. 609 00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:49,544 Going back many, many years, 610 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,922 what do people do in movie theaters? 611 00:43:53,005 --> 00:43:56,592 This is just the city was focusing more 612 00:43:56,676 --> 00:43:58,886 on the adult theaters. 613 00:44:39,886 --> 00:44:41,929 But the neighborhood never bothered 614 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:45,641 because we always run, if I can say, 615 00:44:45,725 --> 00:44:49,395 a respectable front, not to provoke anybody, 616 00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:51,480 not to have any pictures in the front 617 00:44:51,564 --> 00:44:53,941 so kids can see as they're walking by, 618 00:44:54,025 --> 00:44:57,904 but because the place has been there for so many decades, 619 00:44:57,987 --> 00:45:00,489 the patrons know where to come. 620 00:45:00,573 --> 00:45:03,409 I think everything could have its place. 621 00:45:03,492 --> 00:45:04,952 It's how you do it. 622 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,580 You could have adult, you could have regular, 623 00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:12,501 you know, you have to do it with a little respect for the area. 624 00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:28,517 At that time I was buying the business, 625 00:45:28,601 --> 00:45:32,021 but even though the rents were low, 626 00:45:32,104 --> 00:45:36,734 because I knew I wanted to stay in this business 627 00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:39,779 because I loved what I was doing with a passion 628 00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:45,326 and whether it was showing adult movies, art movies, 629 00:45:45,409 --> 00:45:48,371 or first run movies, I just liked it. 630 00:45:48,454 --> 00:45:51,499 I really was excited about it, 631 00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:56,212 and I knew that in order to stay in this business, 632 00:45:56,295 --> 00:46:00,258 I need to protect the longevity 633 00:46:00,341 --> 00:46:02,843 by buying the buildings. 634 00:46:02,927 --> 00:46:06,973 So at one point, 635 00:46:07,056 --> 00:46:09,809 I offered more money and I bought the buildings. 636 00:46:19,527 --> 00:46:22,697 Can I help you with something, sir? 637 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:25,700 Yeah, you got this in a sneaker? 638 00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:33,040 I was in the neighborhood so I thought I'd come in. 639 00:46:35,751 --> 00:46:37,003 Why are you whispering? 640 00:46:37,086 --> 00:46:38,879 - I'm whispering? - Yeah. 641 00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:41,299 Sorry. 642 00:46:41,382 --> 00:46:43,884 - I just want to talk to you. - Okay. 643 00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:45,386 Why don't you have a seat? 644 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,388 I'll be with you in a minute. 645 00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:50,516 The first one I bought was Third Avenue 646 00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,644 for a million dollars. 647 00:46:53,728 --> 00:46:57,940 I tried to make it a regular movie, 648 00:46:58,024 --> 00:47:01,694 and I opened "Sea of Love" with Al Pacino and... 649 00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:03,029 But then these big companies 650 00:47:03,112 --> 00:47:05,573 started building these multiplexes. 651 00:47:05,656 --> 00:47:08,868 Like overbuilt. 652 00:47:08,951 --> 00:47:12,204 And then in '92, I just developed it 653 00:47:12,288 --> 00:47:16,292 and made the place into apartments 654 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:21,964 and The VNYL upscale bar. 655 00:47:22,048 --> 00:47:24,091 Is that a gay bar now? 656 00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:26,761 All right, so where's the theater we're talking about? 657 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:28,387 - Nick. - This is it. 658 00:47:28,471 --> 00:47:29,388 Where? 659 00:47:29,472 --> 00:47:30,931 I don't see no theater. 660 00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:33,267 Oh, this is it, The VNYL, bro. 661 00:47:33,351 --> 00:47:35,102 - Is this a theater? No. - Yeah. 662 00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:36,354 This is a movie theater? 663 00:47:36,437 --> 00:47:38,606 This was the Jewel Theater in the old days. 664 00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:39,899 This goes back, 665 00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:43,194 it was a vaudeville house with talkies, 666 00:47:43,277 --> 00:47:45,613 Charlie Chaplin. 667 00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:47,990 You know, for a nickel you came 668 00:47:48,074 --> 00:47:50,201 and you slept overnight in the old days. 669 00:47:50,284 --> 00:47:53,079 In 1890, this was a place 670 00:47:53,162 --> 00:47:56,123 where gentlemen used to hang out, 671 00:47:56,207 --> 00:47:57,833 respectable gentlemen used to hang out... 672 00:47:57,917 --> 00:48:00,669 - Like us. - with doubtful 673 00:48:00,753 --> 00:48:02,254 character women. 674 00:48:02,338 --> 00:48:05,716 - What is it now? - Now it's VNYL, 675 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,469 - Vintage New York Lifestyle. - What was this, variety? 676 00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:11,806 It's a multistory club. 677 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:15,017 Somewhere you can come and have private parties 678 00:48:15,101 --> 00:48:17,520 or if Abel wants to hang out with his buddies 679 00:48:17,603 --> 00:48:21,649 on the second floor or the second floor mezzanine. 680 00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:25,569 I bought the building 25 years ago. 681 00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:28,114 Actually, it's a very, very luxurious place. 682 00:48:28,197 --> 00:48:29,782 Very fancy place. 683 00:48:29,865 --> 00:48:32,785 Just like it was in 1891. 684 00:48:34,954 --> 00:48:36,831 When you go against these big companies, 685 00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:39,041 they just take away the product, 686 00:48:39,125 --> 00:48:40,584 so what am I gonna show? 687 00:48:40,668 --> 00:48:42,711 Go back to adult movies? 688 00:48:42,795 --> 00:48:45,756 So I just figured, okay, I'm better off. 689 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,468 I'll make it residential and finish with that. 690 00:49:12,158 --> 00:49:13,826 Make some noise! 691 00:49:22,626 --> 00:49:27,506 Everybody knows that the film studios 692 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:32,970 and these big chains, at one point or another, 693 00:49:33,053 --> 00:49:34,722 there is collusion. 694 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,433 Even the Justice Department knows. 695 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:41,896 But the bottom line is you try to prove that in court. 696 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:44,231 Did you ever think of trying it? 697 00:49:44,315 --> 00:49:46,859 You can't beat these guys. 698 00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:49,153 They have an army of lawyers. 699 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:55,910 The court system doesn't care 700 00:49:55,993 --> 00:50:02,416 to waste their money on issues like this. 701 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,168 So you always lose. 702 00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:14,970 The only reason I did it is because... 703 00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:20,726 for seven years, the theater in Queens, 704 00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:22,645 they took the first run movies away 705 00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:24,021 and I was suffering. 706 00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:26,065 But I refused to close that theater 707 00:50:26,148 --> 00:50:33,656 because a lady gifted me that theater, 708 00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:37,952 an old lady that was like my second mother. 709 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:41,247 And there was no way I was going to close the theater 710 00:50:41,330 --> 00:50:44,458 and I was begging them for film 711 00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:46,252 and nobody would listen. 712 00:50:46,335 --> 00:50:49,213 And then I thought, okay, 713 00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:51,465 if I keep it as a movie theater, 714 00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:54,426 I'll give it to these big chains. 715 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:58,013 They didn't want it. 716 00:50:58,097 --> 00:51:00,057 It was an impossible situation. 717 00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:02,726 So I sent them a letter and I said, 718 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:05,396 "Okay, why don't you take the theater?" 719 00:51:05,479 --> 00:51:06,605 Take the business over. 720 00:51:06,689 --> 00:51:08,482 Just leave it as a movie theater. 721 00:51:08,566 --> 00:51:11,193 I don't want to turn it into a drug store 722 00:51:11,277 --> 00:51:12,861 or a supermarket. 723 00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:14,947 I just want to keep it as a theater 724 00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:16,907 "even if it's your business." 725 00:51:16,991 --> 00:51:18,867 They didn't even bother answering. 726 00:51:18,951 --> 00:51:20,452 So I figured the only way 727 00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:24,123 they're gonna at least listen to me 728 00:51:24,206 --> 00:51:30,296 or look at my offer that it exists was to sue them. 729 00:51:30,379 --> 00:51:32,631 And I sued them. 730 00:51:32,715 --> 00:51:35,968 Patty, theater one, what time is the next show? 731 00:51:42,391 --> 00:51:45,352 To my luck, of course I didn't win, 732 00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:49,273 because you cannot beat the system. 733 00:51:49,356 --> 00:51:52,776 After 50, 60 years, 734 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:55,863 Fox made an announcement 735 00:51:55,946 --> 00:52:02,870 and said from May 2016, "We don't care who you are, 736 00:52:02,953 --> 00:52:04,830 we're giving everybody the movies. 737 00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:07,333 We want people to go to the movie theaters. 738 00:52:07,416 --> 00:52:10,753 We don't want to see no more movie theaters closed." 739 00:52:10,836 --> 00:52:12,880 The gray is what's available. 740 00:52:12,963 --> 00:52:14,506 The screen is up there, so... 741 00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:15,799 The screen is up there. 742 00:52:15,883 --> 00:52:17,426 - How many seats do you want? - Two. 743 00:52:17,509 --> 00:52:19,803 The screen is up here, you want to sit in the first, 744 00:52:19,887 --> 00:52:23,265 second, third, fourth, fifth row? 745 00:52:25,684 --> 00:52:29,563 - In the aisle. - Aisle. 746 00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:31,857 Oh, you want to go back there? 747 00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:33,942 - Back there, yeah? - Yeah. 748 00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:35,986 Okay. 749 00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:38,989 Sixteen dollars. 750 00:52:39,073 --> 00:52:40,324 I'll sign for this guy. 751 00:52:40,407 --> 00:52:42,743 We want to get him to sign. 752 00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:44,036 These big companies, 753 00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:47,581 the only reason they make statements like that 754 00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:49,750 is because there's pressure. 755 00:52:49,833 --> 00:52:53,504 There was an open investigation from the Department of Justice. 756 00:52:53,587 --> 00:52:54,963 So these big corporations, 757 00:52:55,047 --> 00:52:58,467 what they don't like is lawsuits. 758 00:52:58,550 --> 00:53:02,179 So to avoid themselves the headache, 759 00:53:02,262 --> 00:53:03,889 all these big companies, 760 00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,266 for the first time after decades, 761 00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:10,437 decided we're going to give everybody the movies. 762 00:53:10,521 --> 00:53:13,482 They said, "We don't want to see movie theaters close down." 763 00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:15,192 So I have to take them at their word. 764 00:53:15,275 --> 00:53:18,070 It doesn't matter, the end result is, 765 00:53:18,153 --> 00:53:19,822 for the first time after seven years, 766 00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:22,324 I was getting first run movies 767 00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:24,368 and then Paramount followed a month later, 768 00:53:24,451 --> 00:53:26,745 Universal, Lionsgate, 769 00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:29,790 and then the theater came back to life. 770 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:32,584 (unintelligible) the owner of this independent movie theater 771 00:53:32,668 --> 00:53:34,378 here in Forest Hills, Queens, 772 00:53:34,461 --> 00:53:36,130 says he could be facing closure, 773 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:38,716 and he's hoping the success of that movie, 774 00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:41,760 "American Sniper," helps him stay open. 775 00:53:41,844 --> 00:53:45,180 But it all started because 776 00:53:45,264 --> 00:53:47,433 Warner Bros. Gave me a movie. 777 00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:48,642 A first run movie, 778 00:53:48,726 --> 00:53:51,061 the first run movie that I ever played there 779 00:53:51,145 --> 00:53:53,856 in seven years, "American Sniper." 780 00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:56,900 And then the whole neighborhood was up in arms 781 00:53:56,984 --> 00:54:00,487 because they really didn't want the theater closed. 782 00:54:00,571 --> 00:54:03,615 So they all came to the theater and supported it, 783 00:54:03,699 --> 00:54:06,869 and their support was so tremendous 784 00:54:06,952 --> 00:54:09,663 that all the news... 785 00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:12,332 Channel ♪, Channel 11, Channel 2, 786 00:54:12,416 --> 00:54:16,086 they all came to the theater and it was unbelievable. 787 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:18,046 The people didn't stop coming there. 788 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:19,798 This Queens resident has been coming here 789 00:54:19,882 --> 00:54:21,508 since he was a child. 790 00:54:21,592 --> 00:54:24,720 It's a wonderful theater, great neighborhood place to be. 791 00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:27,014 Been coming here since I'm a kid. 792 00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:30,642 Some great memories, wonderful shows with friends. 793 00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:32,144 It's just a great place. 794 00:54:32,227 --> 00:54:35,564 I was just standing in front of the box office, 795 00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:39,401 thanking every customer that came out. 796 00:54:39,485 --> 00:54:44,198 I was standing there from 11, 12 noon to 11 at night. 797 00:54:44,281 --> 00:54:46,784 I'm bringing more people that normally will not come 798 00:54:46,867 --> 00:54:49,036 to the... will not go to the movies. 799 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:52,831 They'd rather wait and see the movie on TV. 800 00:54:52,915 --> 00:54:54,750 That's the customers that come there, 801 00:54:54,833 --> 00:54:58,587 because that theater has been there for 90 years. 802 00:54:58,670 --> 00:55:01,757 Ninety years, generation upon generation 803 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,884 have been coming to that theater. 804 00:55:03,967 --> 00:55:05,636 They like it, they feel comfortable, 805 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,429 it's their home. 806 00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:56,603 Well, in the '70s and 80s, it was more like, 807 00:55:56,687 --> 00:55:57,813 "Let's go to the movies." 808 00:55:57,896 --> 00:55:59,648 Let's get there before, a half hour, 809 00:55:59,731 --> 00:56:01,316 we get tickets before an hour. 810 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,652 Let's wait in line," and things like that. 811 00:56:03,735 --> 00:56:08,407 Now it's like, "Let's get our reserved seat." 812 00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:11,076 I'm going to sit at D5. 813 00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:14,454 I come in five minutes before,” and that's it. 814 00:56:14,538 --> 00:56:16,206 Well, you enjoy the movie. 815 00:56:16,290 --> 00:56:18,542 For example, now you're going to see "Blade Runner." 816 00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:21,753 - Two hours and 43 minutes. - Yeah, two hours and 43 minutes. 817 00:56:21,837 --> 00:56:23,755 So you want to be comfortable. 818 00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:26,425 I love the "Godfather" movies. 819 00:56:26,508 --> 00:56:27,843 I like these type of movies. 820 00:56:27,926 --> 00:56:32,014 I like early Martin Scorsese movies. 821 00:56:32,097 --> 00:56:33,765 "Mean Streets" and... 822 00:56:33,849 --> 00:56:35,684 Business is business for the city. 823 00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,061 They still collect the real estate tax 824 00:56:38,145 --> 00:56:39,354 and everything else. 825 00:56:39,438 --> 00:56:41,064 But movie theaters give character 826 00:56:41,148 --> 00:56:42,733 to the neighborhood. 827 00:56:42,816 --> 00:56:46,653 Movie theaters give life, so it's about humans, 828 00:56:46,737 --> 00:56:49,114 it's about people. 829 00:56:49,197 --> 00:56:50,824 We just renovated the theater. 830 00:56:50,908 --> 00:56:55,287 The idea was to make it like the way it was built in 1920s, 831 00:56:55,370 --> 00:56:57,331 because that's what we want. 832 00:56:57,414 --> 00:57:03,670 We want people to come here and feel those years. 833 00:57:03,754 --> 00:57:10,218 And just like it was in the 1920s 834 00:57:10,302 --> 00:57:13,305 with nice solid door. 835 00:57:13,388 --> 00:57:15,766 Right? 836 00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:18,518 As you see, there's no urinals, 837 00:57:18,602 --> 00:57:20,312 but we spend a lot of money here, 838 00:57:20,395 --> 00:57:21,939 so I wanted to show it. 839 00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:25,525 Down the hallway, 840 00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:28,820 you have three theaters and two up here. 841 00:57:28,904 --> 00:57:32,866 Originally the theater was a single screen theater, 842 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:38,914 about 1,200 seats, but now it's five. 843 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,833 The cafe will be part of the theater, 844 00:57:41,917 --> 00:57:44,419 so people can wait at the cafe, 845 00:57:44,503 --> 00:57:48,423 have a drink, coffee, or maybe nothing, 846 00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:49,925 just sit there. 847 00:57:50,008 --> 00:57:53,804 A movie theater should be a relaxed time 848 00:57:53,887 --> 00:57:56,390 that somebody puts their cell phone away 849 00:57:56,473 --> 00:57:59,893 for a couple of hours and forgets about it, 850 00:57:59,977 --> 00:58:02,813 and they can live without it for two hours 851 00:58:02,896 --> 00:58:06,066 and go in a dark theater and enjoy a movie. 852 00:58:06,149 --> 00:58:07,943 If you don't come out to the theater, 853 00:58:08,026 --> 00:58:09,903 you cannot do that. 854 00:58:09,987 --> 00:58:12,864 Basically, we have good old-fashioned popcorn, 855 00:58:12,948 --> 00:58:17,202 good quality, and at half the price 856 00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:19,121 of what everybody else charges. 857 00:58:19,204 --> 00:58:21,790 You don't need to be greedy, 858 00:58:21,873 --> 00:58:24,626 you don't need to rip people off. 859 00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:27,421 They'll come more often to the theater, 860 00:58:27,504 --> 00:58:30,215 and I want people to come to the movies. 861 00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509 -Yeah, we got people coming... -Movies make people cry, 862 00:58:32,592 --> 00:58:33,719 they make them happy. 863 00:58:33,802 --> 00:58:35,303 Don't shoot me, shoot the crowd. 864 00:58:35,387 --> 00:58:39,099 And I think that's worth something. 865 00:58:39,182 --> 00:58:40,934 There's a crowd, what are you coming to see? 866 00:58:41,018 --> 00:58:43,270 What movie are you going to see? 867 00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:44,896 - Which one? - "Battle of the Sexes." 868 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:47,291 "Battle of the Sexes"... we got a battle going on right here. 869 00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:48,692 I got a battle at home. 870 00:58:48,775 --> 00:58:50,253 -I don't have to come... -We all have 871 00:58:50,277 --> 00:58:52,446 I don't have to come to the movies! 872 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,157 - Right? - Right. 873 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,200 - How'd you like the movie? - Good, it was good! 874 00:58:57,284 --> 00:58:59,453 Okay, he liked the movie. 875 00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:00,662 You guys know the original? 876 00:59:00,746 --> 00:59:02,372 You guys see the original? 877 00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:04,376 I thought the script was better for the original, 878 00:59:04,458 --> 00:59:06,793 but I think the directing and cinematography was better 879 00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:09,355 - for the more... for the new one. - Oh, really, that's interesting. 880 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:12,049 I think that this is probably just gonna be the end of it. 881 00:59:12,132 --> 00:59:13,842 I think they closed it pretty well. 882 00:59:13,925 --> 00:59:15,719 I think that if they ended here I'd be fine, 883 00:59:15,802 --> 00:59:16,922 but if they made another one 884 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:18,805 and explored much more mature themes, 885 00:59:18,889 --> 00:59:20,098 then it'd be great, too. 886 00:59:20,182 --> 00:59:22,100 And I think they could have also explored 887 00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:24,728 a couple of different... More concepts. 888 00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:29,191 Because it could have explored concepts 889 00:59:29,274 --> 00:59:30,650 that this film didn't explore 890 00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:34,446 such as the human psyche 891 00:59:34,529 --> 00:59:36,406 and the human psyche 892 00:59:36,490 --> 00:59:37,991 that this one didn't explore as much. 893 00:59:38,075 --> 00:59:39,785 Are you a filmmaker? 894 00:59:39,868 --> 00:59:40,868 We're two. 895 00:59:40,911 --> 00:59:42,231 Both of us are kind of film nerds. 896 00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:43,663 - I am, yeah. - You guys shoot? 897 00:59:43,747 --> 00:59:45,499 - Yes, we shoot. - Excellent, all right. 898 00:59:45,582 --> 00:59:47,250 Have you made your own movie yet? 899 00:59:47,334 --> 00:59:49,169 I've made small pieces here and there. 900 00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:50,646 - Just like one minute long. - All right. 901 00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:52,798 Got to start somewhere, right? 902 01:00:00,889 --> 01:00:01,890 Vito. 903 01:00:01,973 --> 01:00:03,683 - Where is Vito? - Vito? 904 01:00:03,767 --> 01:00:06,144 Yeah, he don't work here no more? 905 01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,314 He's my boss. 906 01:00:09,397 --> 01:00:13,110 They are part of the theater sort of. 907 01:00:13,193 --> 01:00:15,904 When was this opened, this place? 908 01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:19,157 1925 with the theater. 909 01:00:19,241 --> 01:00:24,079 So whoever wants to shut down this place is a mistake. 910 01:00:39,845 --> 01:00:43,598 Actually, it's kind of a holiday, I think, 911 01:00:43,682 --> 01:00:46,852 for my neighbors, 912 01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:49,980 so that's why we're not that busy Friday. 913 01:00:52,566 --> 01:00:54,526 Club, too. 914 01:00:56,987 --> 01:00:58,905 You see it? You see it, too? 915 01:01:00,574 --> 01:01:03,785 I could see it. 916 01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:05,579 The other one. 917 01:01:05,662 --> 01:01:08,039 Sal, please pull to the right, okay. 918 01:01:08,123 --> 01:01:09,443 I can't go to the right right now. 919 01:01:09,499 --> 01:01:11,501 - There are the poles. - Not right now. 920 01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:13,670 - It's like when you can. - Come on, don't make me 921 01:01:13,753 --> 01:01:15,922 like I'm an asshole in front of people. 922 01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:20,510 My name is Sal Peretti. 923 01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:24,055 I was born in Union City, New Jersey, 924 01:01:24,139 --> 01:01:27,684 and I've been in Jersey all my life. 925 01:01:27,767 --> 01:01:31,813 I started myself in 1942. 926 01:01:31,897 --> 01:01:33,773 The war started in '41. 927 01:01:33,857 --> 01:01:34,983 All the guys went away. 928 01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:38,737 I was 12 years old and I was an usher, 929 01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:43,700 I sold candy, and I cleaned the theater at night 930 01:01:43,783 --> 01:01:47,621 for an old weak fella that owned the theater. 931 01:01:47,704 --> 01:01:51,625 I always was a manager and Nick worked for me as a kid, 932 01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:54,628 but Nick is very smart. 933 01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:58,840 He told me, "I'm not going to manage theaters all my life. 934 01:01:58,924 --> 01:02:00,175 I'm going to own it, 935 01:02:00,258 --> 01:02:02,344 and you are going to work for me." 936 01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:04,846 And that's exactly what happened. 937 01:02:04,930 --> 01:02:07,140 I'm working for him, but I'm not killing myself, 938 01:02:07,224 --> 01:02:09,476 you know what I mean? 939 01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:12,520 You don't have to say nothing nice. 940 01:02:12,604 --> 01:02:15,273 His assistant hired me 941 01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:18,276 and then, I think I used to go a little late 942 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,819 because after junior high school, 943 01:02:19,903 --> 01:02:21,655 sometimes you go late. 944 01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:24,032 So he called me in to fire me, 945 01:02:24,115 --> 01:02:26,868 because he says, "You come in late." 946 01:02:26,952 --> 01:02:30,038 So I said, "What are you talking about?" 947 01:02:30,121 --> 01:02:31,373 I came from Astoria. 948 01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:33,208 I paid money on the train. 949 01:02:33,291 --> 01:02:36,795 I brought my sandwich with me from home. 950 01:02:36,878 --> 01:02:39,005 "You're going to fire me?" 951 01:02:39,089 --> 01:02:42,133 So being Sal, who he is, where he comes from, 952 01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:45,178 from a poor Italian-American family 953 01:02:45,262 --> 01:02:47,847 in the Depression, that hit a chord. 954 01:02:47,931 --> 01:02:49,349 So he didn't fire me. 955 01:02:49,432 --> 01:02:52,727 So that was the best thing he ever did, then. 956 01:02:55,563 --> 01:02:56,982 Welcome to the Alpine Cinema. 957 01:02:57,065 --> 01:02:58,900 All right. 958 01:02:58,984 --> 01:03:00,485 - This is... - What a beautiful theater. 959 01:03:00,568 --> 01:03:02,612 an old neighborhood theater. 960 01:03:02,696 --> 01:03:05,323 The oldest in the five boroughs of New York. 961 01:03:05,407 --> 01:03:09,828 Has been continuously operating for 97 years. 962 01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:11,579 About 10 years ago, 963 01:03:11,663 --> 01:03:13,248 this theater would have been the victim 964 01:03:13,331 --> 01:03:14,958 of another shutdown, 965 01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:18,670 another theater closing, a historic theater. 966 01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:21,298 There was like five theaters around here 967 01:03:21,381 --> 01:03:23,675 and one by one got shut down, 968 01:03:23,758 --> 01:03:25,427 and some of them within months. 969 01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:27,262 So when it came to these, 970 01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:30,140 both the Republicans and the Democrats 971 01:03:30,223 --> 01:03:34,102 had a big, big outcry in the newspapers all over. 972 01:03:34,185 --> 01:03:36,563 They were calling to find somebody to buy it. 973 01:03:36,646 --> 01:03:38,148 Nobody wanted to buy it. 974 01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:41,318 I found this theater in the newspaper. 975 01:03:41,401 --> 01:03:43,903 I called him in his home in Cyprus, 976 01:03:43,987 --> 01:03:47,282 and he came right away and took it over. 977 01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:50,035 I do it because it combines 978 01:03:50,118 --> 01:03:53,621 two things I like to do: Make money 979 01:03:53,705 --> 01:03:57,542 and keep neighborhood theaters alive. 980 01:03:57,625 --> 01:03:59,919 He's a great movie man. 981 01:04:00,003 --> 01:04:01,504 He loves the movies 982 01:04:01,588 --> 01:04:05,050 and I taught him the business when he was a kid. 983 01:04:05,133 --> 01:04:06,384 He's outsmarted me. 984 01:04:06,468 --> 01:04:09,846 He knows the business inside out. 985 01:04:09,929 --> 01:04:15,060 So we discovered backstage where about a hundred years ago, 986 01:04:15,143 --> 01:04:17,896 they had a 12-piece orchestra 987 01:04:17,979 --> 01:04:21,483 where they played before the movie in 1921. 988 01:04:21,566 --> 01:04:23,568 Then we started building. 989 01:04:23,651 --> 01:04:28,281 We made the best theater out of all these theaters. 990 01:04:28,365 --> 01:04:30,825 For the first time in the history of our country, 991 01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:33,286 a majority of our people believe 992 01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:36,456 that the next five years 993 01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:40,335 will be worse than the past five years. 994 01:04:40,418 --> 01:04:42,796 How about the next 35? 995 01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:46,299 Movies are part of our lives. 996 01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:49,135 And if you don't want to make them available, 997 01:04:49,219 --> 01:04:52,430 how is a kid, 15, 14, 16 going to go 998 01:04:52,514 --> 01:04:54,015 if he can't drive? 999 01:04:54,099 --> 01:04:56,059 So why does everybody need to take a car 1000 01:04:56,142 --> 01:04:59,604 and drive three, four, five miles away to see a movie? 1001 01:04:59,687 --> 01:05:01,106 What movie you seeing? 1002 01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:02,524 I'm going to watch "It." 1003 01:05:02,607 --> 01:05:04,651 - Why? - I don't know, it looks good. 1004 01:05:04,734 --> 01:05:06,486 - It looks good. - I watched the reviews 1005 01:05:06,569 --> 01:05:08,488 and it looks entertaining. 1006 01:05:08,571 --> 01:05:10,907 I heard it has a lot of jump scares. 1007 01:05:10,990 --> 01:05:12,742 Jump scares. Okay. 1008 01:05:12,826 --> 01:05:14,119 You guys like getting scared? 1009 01:05:14,202 --> 01:05:15,578 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1010 01:05:15,662 --> 01:05:17,372 You didn't even go to school yet, right? 1011 01:05:17,455 --> 01:05:19,165 - You didn't even go home yet. - No, not yet. 1012 01:05:19,249 --> 01:05:20,500 We come here. 1013 01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:22,627 This is like your stop? 1014 01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:24,796 - Your stop on the way home? - Yeah, of course. 1015 01:05:24,879 --> 01:05:26,714 So what do you tell them at home? 1016 01:05:26,798 --> 01:05:28,007 - Doing your homework? - Yeah. 1017 01:05:28,091 --> 01:05:29,509 - Studying hard. - Yeah. 1018 01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:31,278 And then what, you're watching a horror movie? 1019 01:05:31,302 --> 01:05:32,804 Yeah, every time. 1020 01:05:32,887 --> 01:05:34,347 Try to watch every movie we can. 1021 01:05:34,431 --> 01:05:35,932 - All you guys are same? - Egyptian. 1022 01:05:36,015 --> 01:05:37,142 You're Egyptian? 1023 01:05:37,225 --> 01:05:38,601 - And this cat? - I'm mixed. 1024 01:05:38,685 --> 01:05:40,478 - Mixed what? - Moroccan and Vietnamese. 1025 01:05:40,562 --> 01:05:41,896 - And Egyptian. - And Vietnamese. 1026 01:05:41,980 --> 01:05:43,356 All right, okay. 1027 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,358 -You're mixed from... -Half-Egyptian. 1028 01:05:45,442 --> 01:05:47,193 You're getting close shots. 1029 01:05:47,277 --> 01:05:49,213 There's another Egyptian, I can see him from here. 1030 01:05:49,237 --> 01:05:50,572 Yep, he's Egyptian. 1031 01:05:52,699 --> 01:05:55,618 I'm not a politician. 1032 01:05:55,702 --> 01:05:56,786 I'm a survivor. 1033 01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:58,663 I'm a kid that grew up in New York 1034 01:05:58,746 --> 01:06:00,415 with all sorts of people 1035 01:06:00,498 --> 01:06:02,917 that coexisted with those people. 1036 01:06:03,001 --> 01:06:06,880 So I know if I survived, 1037 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:11,301 I'm here in this little theater 23 feet wide, 1038 01:06:11,384 --> 01:06:14,596 and all around me I have 49 screens 1039 01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:18,975 that are built by the biggest stock market companies ever. 1040 01:06:19,058 --> 01:06:24,189 My poorest competitor is a billionaire up the street 1041 01:06:24,272 --> 01:06:26,107 and I'm still here. 1042 01:06:26,191 --> 01:06:31,279 So what I'm saying is, surviving Times Square, 1043 01:06:31,362 --> 01:06:35,283 surviving the Mecca of film exhibitors, 1044 01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:37,452 which is The Village, 1045 01:06:37,535 --> 01:06:41,873 and I'm still open where others closed 1046 01:06:41,956 --> 01:06:44,626 and I don't have anybody backing me up 1047 01:06:44,709 --> 01:06:49,422 or any film studios like others, 1048 01:06:49,506 --> 01:06:51,508 so I have no problem surviving 1049 01:06:51,591 --> 01:06:54,844 and coexisting with my mosque next door. 1050 01:06:54,928 --> 01:06:58,932 Even I disagree or disagree with their beliefs, 1051 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:00,642 it doesn't matter to me. 1052 01:07:00,725 --> 01:07:04,479 I can coexist and survive through all that 1053 01:07:04,562 --> 01:07:07,482 because that theater needs to be open, 1054 01:07:07,565 --> 01:07:12,070 the people want it, and you don't just walk away 1055 01:07:12,153 --> 01:07:14,572 because it may be a losing proposition 1056 01:07:14,656 --> 01:07:16,658 or it's too difficult. 1057 01:07:16,741 --> 01:07:20,078 People like to go watch movies with people. 1058 01:07:20,161 --> 01:07:21,329 That's fun. 1059 01:07:21,412 --> 01:07:23,373 That's what we are, social animals. 1060 01:07:23,456 --> 01:07:26,876 Watching movies like horror movies, "It," 1061 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,754 you're watching the movie with your peers, 1062 01:07:29,837 --> 01:07:32,173 another 300 teenagers, 200 teenagers, 1063 01:07:32,257 --> 01:07:35,051 you're all laughing, it's fun. 1064 01:07:35,134 --> 01:07:36,386 This is what it is. 1065 01:07:36,469 --> 01:07:38,388 The movie may not be the greatest movie, 1066 01:07:38,471 --> 01:07:40,765 but it's the whole experience. 1067 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,322 Ow! 1068 01:08:37,447 --> 01:08:39,324 For example, look at Cinema Village 1069 01:08:39,407 --> 01:08:42,327 where we are right now. 1070 01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:44,454 Across the street, the apartments are selling 1071 01:08:44,537 --> 01:08:46,414 for $10 million each. 1072 01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:49,375 I could build eight floors here. 1073 01:08:49,459 --> 01:08:53,588 I could get rent for this movie theater, 1074 01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:58,760 a restaurant or something that's 10 times more 1075 01:08:58,843 --> 01:09:01,346 than what I'm making as a movie theater, 1076 01:09:01,429 --> 01:09:03,014 but that means I will have 1077 01:09:03,097 --> 01:09:05,892 to shut down the theater for good. 1078 01:09:09,896 --> 01:09:15,568 Built in 1963 from 1800s, 1079 01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:19,656 a firehouse, a famous engine, 72. 1080 01:09:19,739 --> 01:09:24,619 In 1963, build a little small art theater. 1081 01:09:24,702 --> 01:09:28,456 The place shows very independent films 1082 01:09:28,539 --> 01:09:32,627 that you don't get to see, they crack through the holes 1083 01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:35,588 and they're never seen in theaters. 1084 01:09:35,672 --> 01:09:37,215 You'll find them here. 1085 01:09:37,298 --> 01:09:39,092 Like now we're playing 1086 01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:40,885 executive producer Martin Scorsese, 1087 01:09:40,968 --> 01:09:42,762 this wonderful film. 1088 01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:44,514 Maybe we get a few people. 1089 01:09:44,597 --> 01:09:46,641 Whatever we get, that's fine with us. 1090 01:09:46,724 --> 01:09:52,313 It was one small theater to begin with, narrow and long, 1091 01:09:52,397 --> 01:09:58,069 but in order to keep up with the economics, 1092 01:09:58,152 --> 01:10:02,240 we separated and made two theaters. 1093 01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:08,663 This is the original projection booth 1094 01:10:08,746 --> 01:10:11,332 that we just took the balcony and made a second theater. 1095 01:10:11,416 --> 01:10:14,419 In 1999, we closed the theater. 1096 01:10:14,502 --> 01:10:16,963 We were suffering economically, 1097 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:20,633 and we just sit in an empty theater deciding, 1098 01:10:20,717 --> 01:10:23,386 and I said, "No, let's do something 1099 01:10:23,469 --> 01:10:25,596 to bring in more money," 1100 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,350 and the fact is that only this theater 1101 01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:32,061 could survive in New York, 1102 01:10:32,145 --> 01:10:36,232 because the New York audience is a kind of people 1103 01:10:36,315 --> 01:10:39,277 that are aware of movies. 1104 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,489 So this is the projection booth we had to create 1105 01:10:43,573 --> 01:10:45,825 in order to make another theater, 1106 01:10:45,908 --> 01:10:49,454 because we needed to have two theaters, 1107 01:10:49,537 --> 01:10:51,956 so we can have more movies shown, 1108 01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:56,711 so the income will justify us staying open. 1109 01:10:56,794 --> 01:10:59,839 As you see, it's kind of unorthodox, 1110 01:10:59,922 --> 01:11:02,717 but we have to jump on the stage. 1111 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,720 When we come up, there's nobody here, 1112 01:11:05,803 --> 01:11:09,307 so it's a matter of scheduling so people don't see us. 1113 01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:11,809 And the way things operate today, 1114 01:11:11,893 --> 01:11:14,687 we can basically operate with a remote control 1115 01:11:14,771 --> 01:11:16,105 from downstairs. 1116 01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:18,733 Currently showing the digital films. 1117 01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:23,696 And in the olden days we used to show the 16 millimeter, 1118 01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:27,617 35 millimeter, that we can still show. 1119 01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:34,499 And this is a booth we created to have the other theater. 1120 01:11:34,582 --> 01:11:36,167 And stay, yeah, stay over there. 1121 01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:38,628 Go a little bit by the light, just about there. 1122 01:11:41,005 --> 01:11:42,507 Jesse. 1123 01:11:44,425 --> 01:11:46,469 Do you think Daddy... 1124 01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:48,429 What? 1125 01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,598 Forget it. 1126 01:11:50,681 --> 01:11:52,308 What, Tracy? 1127 01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:56,395 I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. 1128 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,524 We can move all your stuff back in tomorrow if you want. 1129 01:11:59,607 --> 01:12:04,237 So basically about a year, two years ago in this theater, 1130 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,032 I decided that, well, we need to make some money. 1131 01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:11,869 I can't just show movies that 10 people come and say, 1132 01:12:11,953 --> 01:12:15,498 "Well, that was a great film. It should deserve playing." 1133 01:12:15,581 --> 01:12:18,459 So basically, I would charge the filmmaker. 1134 01:12:18,543 --> 01:12:22,046 I said, "Okay, you need the movie to play in a theater." 1135 01:12:22,129 --> 01:12:23,923 I have a great location. 1136 01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:26,175 You guys need to pay me some money. 1137 01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:29,095 And if you make a great box office hit, 1138 01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:32,223 "you get 100 percent of your money." 1139 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:36,644 You remember Daddy kissing you or hugging you? 1140 01:12:36,727 --> 01:12:40,106 Do you think that's why I never... 1141 01:12:46,445 --> 01:12:48,447 Do you think that's why I'm cold? 1142 01:12:48,531 --> 01:12:50,449 I don't think you're cold. 1143 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:52,618 I think I'm cold. 1144 01:12:52,702 --> 01:12:55,246 Or maybe just not warm. 1145 01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:58,291 You're a good person. 1146 01:12:58,374 --> 01:13:02,169 I charge them anywhere from, depends on people, 1147 01:13:02,253 --> 01:13:04,422 how long they've been working with us, 1148 01:13:04,505 --> 01:13:07,133 could be five to ten thousand dollars a week. 1149 01:13:07,216 --> 01:13:09,093 Ten thousand a week to show the movie? 1150 01:13:09,176 --> 01:13:11,220 I mean, this guy's spending half a million dollars 1151 01:13:11,304 --> 01:13:12,638 to make a movie. 1152 01:13:12,722 --> 01:13:16,100 Why not give Nick another five, $10,000, or $8,000, 1153 01:13:16,183 --> 01:13:18,811 and they get to have Q&A, they get New York Times review, 1154 01:13:18,895 --> 01:13:21,397 they get a lot of things. 1155 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:22,732 And you know something? 1156 01:13:22,815 --> 01:13:26,068 When their movie's played in the movie theater, 1157 01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:31,157 this is like the Mecca of movie theaters now in this area. 1158 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,326 This is a top-notch area. 1159 01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:37,412 Absolutely, yeah. 1160 01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:39,373 My son and daughter are continuing, 1161 01:13:39,457 --> 01:13:43,419 they just finished colleges in New York, 1162 01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:45,421 they graduated, 1163 01:13:45,504 --> 01:13:49,926 so both my daughter and son are going to be... 1164 01:13:50,009 --> 01:13:52,219 Are working with me. 1165 01:13:52,303 --> 01:13:57,141 Then I have another daughter who is coming in, 1166 01:13:57,224 --> 01:13:58,726 but she's going to go to college, 1167 01:13:58,809 --> 01:14:00,519 so I don't think she'll be involved. 1168 01:14:00,603 --> 01:14:04,231 Basically, I'm giving them the responsibility to take over. 1169 01:14:04,315 --> 01:14:06,400 - What's going on? - The other side of the world 1170 01:14:06,484 --> 01:14:09,236 and we work remotely together. 1171 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,072 They're in our office in Cyprus, 1172 01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:13,824 and we're on Skype all day, all night. 1173 01:14:13,908 --> 01:14:16,619 She's the everything behind this. 1174 01:14:16,702 --> 01:14:19,622 She runs the behind it, the behind the scenes. 1175 01:14:19,705 --> 01:14:21,958 -This is... -But basically, 1176 01:14:22,041 --> 01:14:27,546 my wife controls everything from Cyprus 1177 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:31,175 through her management team. 1178 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:35,262 Anything financial, 1179 01:14:35,346 --> 01:14:37,807 what everything 1180 01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:39,767 I don't worry about what gets paid, 1181 01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:42,853 what doesn't get paid, 1182 01:14:42,937 --> 01:14:46,941 or hooked up with the banks. 1183 01:14:47,024 --> 01:14:53,155 Everything is overlooked from there, from overseas. 1184 01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:57,868 This is another way you cut your operation cost, too, 1185 01:14:57,952 --> 01:15:03,040 which we are... I like to think we pass it on to the patron. 1186 01:15:03,124 --> 01:15:07,211 That's how we have the most affordable price policy 1187 01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:08,587 in movie theaters. 1188 01:15:08,671 --> 01:15:11,924 So we got like six, seven show times 1189 01:15:12,008 --> 01:15:13,009 after ♪:00 p.m. 1190 01:15:13,092 --> 01:15:15,928 You see ♪:00, ♪:15, ♪:20, ♪:30. 1191 01:15:16,012 --> 01:15:18,597 Here you can see there's something like a school. 1192 01:15:18,681 --> 01:15:21,559 It's a big group, maybe it's 200 people there. 1193 01:15:21,642 --> 01:15:23,769 Because it's the morning, 1194 01:15:23,853 --> 01:15:25,938 all groups or parties are usually in the morning 1195 01:15:26,022 --> 01:15:28,566 because it's usually schools. 1196 01:15:28,649 --> 01:15:31,652 Alpine in Brooklyn is doing the best business. 1197 01:15:31,736 --> 01:15:33,738 We do very big, very, very big 1198 01:15:33,821 --> 01:15:36,073 with the family movies in Brooklyn. 1199 01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,284 It's... if you go there on the weekends, 1200 01:15:38,367 --> 01:15:41,912 it's packed with families and their kids. 1201 01:15:41,996 --> 01:15:43,622 For one, it's very reasonable. 1202 01:15:43,706 --> 01:15:48,169 We charge a reasonable, the lowest price in New York, 1203 01:15:48,252 --> 01:15:51,380 and people just support it. 1204 01:15:51,464 --> 01:15:54,216 Like you got "Star Wars" coming in. 1205 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:58,220 We're already selling tickets for Christmas for "Star Wars." 1206 01:16:00,181 --> 01:16:04,143 I mean, I care not only about the money, 1207 01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:05,269 I'm a businessman, 1208 01:16:05,352 --> 01:16:09,732 but I care about what the people get. 1209 01:16:09,815 --> 01:16:12,401 It's how you feel afterwards, that's what I care. 1210 01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:15,780 To me, to run back and forth and sell another 10 tickets 1211 01:16:15,863 --> 01:16:18,657 means nothing to my pocket, basically. 1212 01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:21,577 The satisfaction that the guy parked his car 1213 01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:24,038 and came there with his wife to see a movie 1214 01:16:24,121 --> 01:16:28,667 and I got him in before the movie started, 1215 01:16:28,751 --> 01:16:30,377 this makes it for me. 1216 01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:45,309 He's doing his own operation, 1217 01:16:45,392 --> 01:16:48,145 and we're trying to do everything behind 1218 01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:51,732 that has to do with financing 1219 01:16:51,816 --> 01:16:56,654 and the future of the family to make sure 1220 01:16:56,737 --> 01:17:02,368 that we spend time together and enjoy our home. 1221 01:17:02,451 --> 01:17:07,998 I want Nick to relax more and enjoy his... 1222 01:17:08,082 --> 01:17:09,667 He made me many promises. 1223 01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:12,711 He promised that he's going to be five years, 1224 01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:15,089 before 15 years, he's going to relax 1225 01:17:15,172 --> 01:17:17,049 and enjoy everything. 1226 01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:21,846 It's getting worse with his workaholic, 1227 01:17:21,929 --> 01:17:25,224 it's getting worse, but now I'm saying no. 1228 01:17:25,307 --> 01:17:26,851 There is more things in life 1229 01:17:26,934 --> 01:17:30,855 like I'm doing now my sculptures, my dance. 1230 01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:40,239 I'd rather buy an old movie theater. 1231 01:17:40,322 --> 01:17:41,824 How do you see the next five years, 1232 01:17:41,907 --> 01:17:43,617 10 years of your life? 1233 01:17:46,412 --> 01:17:49,081 Just keep doing what I'm doing. 1234 01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:50,666 Keep doing what I'm doing. 1235 01:17:50,749 --> 01:17:53,669 If something comes up where we find a location, 1236 01:17:53,752 --> 01:17:56,088 we'll open another theater. 1237 01:17:58,591 --> 01:18:01,010 I love the theater, one, 1238 01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:05,139 I'm still not a hundred years old, 1239 01:18:05,222 --> 01:18:08,601 and I feel good being part of this business. 1240 01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:11,478 I mean, I feel privileged that I was part 1241 01:18:11,562 --> 01:18:15,399 of you guys making the movies in my own way 1242 01:18:15,482 --> 01:18:18,194 even as an exhibitor or as a businessman, 1243 01:18:18,277 --> 01:18:21,780 and I don't like everything to become mass production, 1244 01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:23,449 that people have to drive 20 miles, 1245 01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:26,035 10 miles to go to only one. 1246 01:18:26,118 --> 01:18:27,369 Give the people a choice. 1247 01:18:27,453 --> 01:18:29,747 I mean, especially in New York, 1248 01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:34,210 there's something nice about seeing some small movie. 1249 01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:36,629 Most of the guys we play here 1250 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,380 would never get their movie released 1251 01:18:38,464 --> 01:18:41,383 in a movie theater. 1252 01:18:41,467 --> 01:18:43,427 I think that's wrong. 1253 01:18:48,515 --> 01:18:51,143 This is our youngest daughter, Phoebe. 1254 01:18:51,227 --> 01:18:54,021 - Phoebe. - Silence. 1255 01:18:56,649 --> 01:18:58,234 This is the last... 1256 01:19:01,820 --> 01:19:03,739 That's my daughter... 1257 01:19:03,822 --> 01:19:05,741 - Okay! - Okay, guys. 1258 01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:08,327 Now, now, thank you, thank you. 1259 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:10,246 My daughter also... 1260 01:19:12,331 --> 01:19:15,542 I think movie theaters are always going to be, 1261 01:19:15,626 --> 01:19:19,630 and I don't believe in those fancy games needed 1262 01:19:19,713 --> 01:19:23,550 to get the people in, like all those tricks, 1263 01:19:23,634 --> 01:19:29,765 and I mean, just basically have good projection, 1264 01:19:29,848 --> 01:19:32,017 a comfortable place, 1265 01:19:32,101 --> 01:19:34,311 a nice dark theater to watch a movie in. 1266 01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:37,439 That's what I think people like. 90737

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