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male narrator: Previously,
on "Tracking Oswald"...
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- 54 years ago, the President of
the United States was murdered.
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I, for one,
have never been satisfied
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with the record on this.
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narrator: CIA veteran Bob Baer,
launched a new investigation
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into Lee Harvey Oswald,
and the assassination
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of President John F. Kennedy.
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- The official investigation
tells us that Lee Harvey Oswald
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acted alone.
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[crowd screaming]
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The pieces never
fit together for me.
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[dramatic music]
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When I was at the CIA,
I investigated assassinations.
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One man can't plan this
without support.
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narrator: Following evidence
from newly declassified
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government files, Bob
and former police lieutenant
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Adam Bercovici discover
that Oswald visited
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the Soviet Embassy
in Mexico City only eight weeks
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before murdering
President Kennedy.
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- Oswald met
with our main enemy,
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then came back and assassinated
the president.
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If someone met with ISIS,
and then committed mass murder,
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can we really say
he acted alone?
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*
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narrator: The team descended
upon Mexico City
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where they uncovered
new evidence...
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- This is an ideal location,
for having an initial contact
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with the KGB.
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narrator: Suggesting
the Russians may have
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worked with Oswald
to assassinate the president.
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- What are the chances
of Oswald going to Mexico City,
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getting to see the KGB,
then ending up with the guy
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in charge of assassinations
for North America?
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If Lee Harvey Oswald
was working with the KGB,
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it would mean
the Soviet Union was responsible
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for the assassination
of an American president.
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*
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narrator: November 22, 1963,
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Lee Harvey Oswald opens fire
in Dealey Plaza,
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forever changing
American history.
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Unanswered questions linger,
breeding countless
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conspiracy theories.
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Many believe Russia, Cuba,
or even the CIA
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supported Oswald
in his mission.
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In 2017, the final documents
from the JFK assassination
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are scheduled for release.
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More than two million files
have already been declassified.
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No one has analyzed them
until now.
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A CIA veteran is on the trail
of the most notorious assassin
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in U.S. history.
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[horn honks]
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- We have to find out what his
relationship with the KGB was.
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I want a chronology
of Oswald's movements,
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what we know to be fact
from the Warren Commission.
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Let's go through the documents.
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I want to see Moscow
through his eyes.
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- All right.
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narrator: Bob and Adam access
a central database
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with more than
two million declassified
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CIA and FBI documents,
as well as
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all official government reports
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pertaining
to the assassination.
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[computer beeps]
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- "Warren Commission Report.
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He was met at
the Moscow Railroad Station."
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He's met by Rima Shirokova,
taken to the Berlin Hotel,
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stays there five days,
and here we have
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an apparent suicide attempt.
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Most people don't know
he tried to commit suicide.
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narrator: Warren Commission
documents report
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that Lee Harvey Oswald
visited Moscow
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four years before
JFK's assassination,
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on a mission to defect
to the Soviet Union.
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In October of 1959,
a 19-year-old Oswald is met
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by a state guide
named Rima Shirokova,
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who checks him in
to the Berlin Hotel.
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For five days,
Oswald awaits word on whether
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he can become
an official Soviet citizen.
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On October 21, 1959,
he's notified his visa
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will expire in only days,
forcing him
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to depart the country.
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Oswald attempts suicide and is
rushed to the Botkin Hospital.
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- So what did he do
after the suicide attempt?
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What do you got?
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[computer beeps]
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Okay, "He was released
from the hospital on the 28th,
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"accompanied by Rima...
driven to the Hotel Berlin
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"in an Intourist car.
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"After he said good-bye...
he checked out of the Berlin
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and registered
at the Metropole."
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The Warren Commission
never asked the question,
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let alone got an answer,
for why Oswald left the Berlin
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and went to the Metropole Hotel.
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What did that mean?
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After his stay
in the hospital, he moves
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from his original hotel,
the Berlin, to the Metropole,
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but what we don't know is why.
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Did someone else move him?
Did someone intervene?
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That's what we have to find out.
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We are going into
hostile area,
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what the CIA calls
a denied area.
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Everywhere we go,
we are going to have
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a surveillance team on us.
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We are going to have people
reporting our movements.
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Even though
more than 54 years have passed
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since the assassination,
it's still a very
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sensitive subject in Russia.
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Moscow can be very dangerous.
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We have to be careful
about whom we're talking to,
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and we have to be aware of
our surroundings at all times.
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narrator: During the 1960s,
Russia and the United States
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are at the height
of their 43-year conflict.
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As premier,
Nikita Khrushchev blocks
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all contact with the West.
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As the Cold War intensifies,
Khrushchev and the KGB
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launch a new era of espionage,
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creating cutting edge
technology
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to monitor their enemies.
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Soviet intelligence
actively works to recruit
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Americans to their cause,
reportedly publishing
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a secret manual entitled,
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"The Practice of Recruiting
Americans in the USA."
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- What I'm here to do
is find out if Oswald
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was recruited by the KGB.
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If he ends up working
with the KGB, and they plotted
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to kill President Kennedy
together,
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that's an act of war
against the United States,
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and it's as true today
as it was in 1963.
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- The structure of the place
hasn't changed since the '60s.
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narrator: Bob meets up
with local investigator
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Jim Kovpak
at the Metropole Hotel
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to look into Oswald's
possible ties to the KGB.
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- This would be for celebrities,
foreign dignitaries.
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- He's got almost
no money at all.
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He's not gonna stay here.
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The Warren Commission
never came to Russia
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to investigate this
for themselves.
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If they did,
they would have seen
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that Oswald moving
to the Metropole was suspicious.
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There's only one way
he could have got in
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the Metropole at this point.
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It's the government.
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Somebody made the decision,
we don't need this American
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committing suicide here
or doing something else crazy.
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Let's put him in the Metropole,
see if he does any better.
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- Yeah, that, and it would
have been so isolating,
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I imagine you could
probably get a lot
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of good information on him.
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- What's amazing is that
the KGB headquarters
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is just, like, a block away.
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After Oswald's suicide attempt,
I guarantee you
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the KGB moved him
to the Metropole,
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but the big question is,
was the KGB watching Oswald
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inside his room?
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I want to look
for hard evidence the KGB
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was operating
inside the Metropole.
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narrator: Bob and Jim secure
access to Lee Harvey Oswald's
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original room from 1959.
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- At this point, you have
to consider that the KGB
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are saying, "Who is this guy?"
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And one way to find out
is put him in this room,
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listen to what he has to say.
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They're vetting him to see if
he's a worthwhile recruitment,
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what he's up to, and one way
to watch him is this room
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where everything is--
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every sound 24 hours a day
is monitored.
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In those days,
the analog equipment was huge,
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and the microphones were--
were large, so who knows
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what they had in these walls?
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Over 50 years later,
there still should be traces
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of surveillance here.
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narrator: Bob is armed
with wall-penetrating sonar
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that can detect anomalies
within the walls,
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including any remnants
of KGB eavesdropping devices.
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- Let's check the walls.
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narrator: Side-scanning radar
is a state of the art
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technology that can detect
objects only millimeters
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in diameter through a wall
up to six feet thick.
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It sends pulses of energy
into the wall,
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measures the time it takes
for the signal to return,
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and creates an image
of the wall's interior.
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- The walls haven't changed.
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Those spaces in the walls
will still be there then.
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- Yeah, I think
there'd be anomalies.
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[device beeps]
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There's a hole.
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[device beeps]
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I can imagine what it was like
for Oswald being locked up
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in a hotel like this.
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From Oswald's diary, he was,
you know, sitting in this room
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with absolutely nothing to do.
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As nice as this place was...
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it was still a prison.
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He must have been going
out of his mind at this point.
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Yeah, look at that.
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There we go.
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Ooh, I'm seeing--I'm seeing
some big anomalies here.
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[device beeps]
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There we go.
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[device beeps]
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There's some hot spots
in the wall.
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See all that down there?
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narrator: The radar scan
seems to reveal
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six separate cavities
within the walls,
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each appearing
large enough to house
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visual and audio
eavesdropping devices.
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- For a former
intelligence officer,
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this makes
a lot of sense to me.
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I spent years running operations
just like this.
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I'm now convinced
this is a room that's wired
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for surveillance.
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I believe KGB
was all over Oswald,
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but the big question is,
were they simply keeping
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an eye on the strange foreigner
who was acting erratically,
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or were they attempting
to recruit an assassin
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to murder the President
of the United States?
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narrator: CIA veteran Bob Baer
has launched
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a new investigation
into Lee Harvey Oswald
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and the Kennedy assassination.
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- I believe
that Lee Harvey Oswald
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was the only shooter
in Dealey Plaza.
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But just because he was
the only shooter
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doesn't mean there weren't
others who could have aided him
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in the assassination.
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narrator: A declassified
CIA document reveals that
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Oswald may have met
with the head of the KGB's
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assassination squad
only eight weeks
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before JFK's murder.
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[gunshots and screaming]
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While Bob is following
Oswald's trail in Moscow...
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5,700 miles away, back at
the Dallas field office...
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- This was never released.
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This was not something
that was looked at seriously.
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- When I look at this,
I see somebody who's lost.
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narrator: Former police
lieutenant Adam Bercovici
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works with former FBI
criminal profiler Steve Gomez
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to reexamine
a key piece of evidence
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originally introduced
by the Warren Commission:
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the personal diary
of Lee Harvey Oswald.
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- In terms of Oswald,
we have something
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that is really a little treasure
in terms of an investigation.
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We have his diary.
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That's a window
into his personality,
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a window into his soul.
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So right here is gonna be one
of the early diary entries.
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[dramatic music]
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narrator: Lee Harvey Oswald
penned a personal diary
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during his visit
to Moscow in 1959.
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During that trip,
Oswald attempted to defect
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to the Soviet Union,
but when his efforts failed,
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he attempted suicide and was
rushed to the local hospital.
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*
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- This is the critical
diary entry because
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it's a big moment for Oswald.
- Yes.
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- It's when he finds out
that he's gotta leave.
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"Eve 6:00, received word
from police official.
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"I must leave country tonight
at 8:00 p.m. as visa expires.
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"I am shocked.
My found dreams are shattered
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"because of a petty official,
because bad planning.
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"I planned too much.
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7:00 p.m., I decide to end it."
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*
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"Soak wrist in cold water
to numb the pain..."
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*
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"And slash my left wrist..."
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"Plunge wrist
into bathtub of hot water.
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"I think, when Rima comes
at 8:00 to find me dead,
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it will be a great shock."
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- The thing that just pops out
from this diary entry, Adam,
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is the part on the fourth line
where he says,
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"dreams are shattered."
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*
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You can just see
his world is crumbling.
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He's waiting, and he's ready
to go, for the phone to ring
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to come down to meet
with the Soviets once again,
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and it's not happening.
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So it looks like all the
waiting and the nervous energy
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is causing him
to now do something.
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He now comes to the mindset
of "I'm gonna attempt suicide."
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*
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So what's also interesting
about what he writes
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in this part of the diary
is the fact that
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he had been planning this
for two years.
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So let's think about this.
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He is about--he's 19
when this is taking place.
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So if he's been planning this
for roughly two years,
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that takes him back to 17,
and he's in the military.
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He's in the Marines.
You know, did something happen
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in the Marine Corps
that started to trigger
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this plan of one day he's going
to defect and become
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a Russian citizen as he tried
to do and as he describes here?
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- It also is consistent
in what we know about Oswald
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is that nothing that he does
is really random.
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He's a planner.
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- To me, it appears
that he wasn't really trying
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to commit suicide.
He didn't wanna die.
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He wanted to make
some type of action
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that was going to get
the Soviet Union's attention,
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to get them to realize,
"Hey, don't throw me out
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"of the country.
Let's--
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You know, talk to me some more."
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And by him then having
to go to the hospital,
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they're not gonna throw him out.
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narrator: Oswald's
next diary entry is dated
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October 28, 1959,
written less than two weeks
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after his attempted suicide.
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- "Rima notifies me that pass
and registration office
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"wishes to see me
about my future.
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"We enter the offices to find
four officials waiting for me,
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"all unknown to me.
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"They ask how my arm is.
I say okay.
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"They ask, 'Do you want to go
to your homeland?'
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"I say no. I say I want
to reside in the Soviet Union.
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They say,
'We'll see about that.'"
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- You can bet money
that at least one of them,
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if not more, are KGB agents.
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They're gonna try to figure out
what do we have here.
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- He's being brought into
the Soviet machine,
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their way of dealing with people
that are trying to defect,
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and maybe even their way
of dealing with people
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that they're gonna turn.
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narrator: As Adam and Steve
uncover possible contact
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between Oswald and the KGB...
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Bob Baer continues
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his investigation
on the ground in Moscow.
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*
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- We need direct access.
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There's just too much stuff
out there that we're not getting
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the original version.
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narrator: Bob and local
investigator, Jim Kovpak,
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are attempting to track down
a KGB agent
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with personal knowledge
of Lee Harvey Oswald.
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- We need somebody
from that era.
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- Straight to the source.
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narrator: After Oswald's
suicide attempt
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during his 1959 trip
to Moscow...
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he was relocated to a hotel
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seemingly under
heavy KGB surveillance.
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The question is, why?
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- I'm absolutely certain
that Oswald was moved
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to the Metropole so the KGB
could better watch him,
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but we still don't know
their motivations.
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I'm gonna call in my network.
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Jim's going to call his.
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We'll see
if we can find somebody.
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Let's get a list of people.
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Anybody who knew
the United States,
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knew American targets
at that time.
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Finding a KGB officer active in
the '60s isn't gonna be easy.
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It's a pretty small set.
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You know a lot of these guys
aren't around anymore.
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- [speaking Russian]
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- If we can, we'll be
at the doorstep of finding out
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whether the KGB
assassinated Kennedy.
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Make it happen.
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[ominous music]
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narrator: Reaching out
to his intelligence network,
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Bob secures a meeting
with Oleg Nechiporenko,
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one of the only surviving
KGB agents with personal
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knowledge of Oswald
who's willing to talk.
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- I have no idea
what this guy knows
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or what he'll
be able to tell me,
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but he's our best chance
of understanding
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what Oswald's connections were
with the KGB.
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*
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Oswald, when he comes in 1959,
why didn't the KGB
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at that point
try to recruit him?
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- [translating into Russian]
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- Mm-hmm.
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- They agree to give him
temporary residency
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in the Soviet Union,
and basically the question
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of his permanent residency
in the Soviet Union,
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and citizenship, of course,
that is to be determined
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within the period of one year.
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*
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narrator: Lee Harvey Oswald
initially arrives in Moscow
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on October 16, 1959.
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Three months later, he's moved
to the city of Minsk,
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over 400 miles from Moscow,
where he's continuously
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watched by the KGB.
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According to Oleg,
this move is intended to delay
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the KGB's long-term decision
about what to do
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with the American.
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In Minsk, Oswald works
at a radio and TV factory,
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marries Soviet native,
Marina Prusakova
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and has a daughter.
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The Oswalds leave Minsk
in 1962 and return
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to the United States.
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*
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- Wouldn't it have been better
to just throw him
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out of the country?
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- You didn't know.
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- They were not sure yet.
They wanted the time
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to watch him.
- That's perfect, yes.
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- So they listened
to his apartment,
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they put surveillance on him,
everything.
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00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,940
- After 20 years in the CIA,
I know how to assess sources,
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and every bone in my body tells
me Oleg is a credible source.
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The details he recalled line ue
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of KGB operations and their
evaluation of potential assets.
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Did you meet him
when he was in Moscow?
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Oswald?
- No.
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00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:11,742
- You met him in Mexico City?
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- Two months before
he assassinated Kennedy.
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*
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[horns honking]
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narrator: Former CIA agent
Bob Baer has launched
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an investigation
into Lee Harvey Oswald
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following new evidence from
declassified government files.
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A CIA document puts Oswald
inside the Soviet Embassy
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in Mexico City
only eight weeks
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before the murder
of President Kennedy.
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Bob has secured unprecedented
access to a KGB agent
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present at that meeting,
Oleg Nechiporenko.
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- You met him in Mexico City?
- Yes.
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- This puts the case
in a whole new light.
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It's the closest we've ever been
to being in the room
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with Oswald.
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How long did you meet him for?
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- What was his demand?
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- [translating into Russian]
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- Basically what he demanded
from them is he wanted
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another visa to go back
to the Soviet Union.
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What he told them is that
the FBI was harassing him,
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and harassing his family,
that he couldn't get
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any kind of decent work
in the U.S., and basically
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00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:46,801
he needed to go back
to the Soviet Union.
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00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:48,073
That's what he wanted.
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00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,470
- Who else did Oswald meet?
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- [translating into Russian]
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- Kostikov was from
Department 13.
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We learned from the documents
that Kostikov was
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the head of Department 13,
the section of the KGB
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dealing with assassinations
and covert operations.
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[dramatic music]
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narrator: The KGB's
Department 13 was
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a special branch
of highly trained personnel
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reportedly handling operations
known as liquid affairs.
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Though Valeriy Kostikov
publicly worked as a diplomat
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for the Soviet Embassy
in Mexico City,
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CIA documents report
that he covertly headed
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this notorious section
of the KGB.
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- And then that becomes
the matter of the KGB.
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00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:14,089
*
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- He was crying?
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- [translating into Russian]
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- So he was crying,
he was nervous...
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00:24:56,128 --> 00:24:59,828
- Oleg explained to him that--
that they couldn't give him
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a visa there because,
since he was a citizen
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of the United States,
he told him you need to go
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to our consulate
in Washington D.C.
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00:25:06,773 --> 00:25:08,913
- Washington.
- And what he also said
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00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:11,911
is that even if we could
make a visa for you,
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because Oswald wanted
to leave as soon as possible,
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00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:16,276
it would take at least,
you know, a few months.
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00:25:16,315 --> 00:25:19,215
Oswald became very angry
about this, hands were shaking.
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00:25:19,251 --> 00:25:21,021
At this point they've already
explained to him
477
00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:22,293
they're not giving the visa.
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00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:51,154
- What else did this guy
have on his mind other than
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political violence?
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*
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And here's a guy
with a revolver,
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comes into a consulate,
this is before metal detectors.
483
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:02,803
So did you think he was crazy?
484
00:26:22,682 --> 00:26:25,922
- Is it possible,
and I have to ask the question,
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that a part of the KGB
was meeting Oswald
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to recruit him at the time?
487
00:26:33,092 --> 00:26:36,802
- [translating into Russian]
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00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:41,900
- No.
- No.
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00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,604
- Not possible.
- No.
490
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,080
- What I learned from Oleg
was eye-opening.
491
00:26:57,116 --> 00:27:01,916
The KGB looked at Oswald
as unreliable, unstable,
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00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:03,924
not good material for a recruit.
493
00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:22,936
- He wasn't a tornado.
He was a time bomb.
494
00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:32,993
*
495
00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:40,827
[dramatic music]
496
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,360
- This--this KGB guy,
the guy that we got
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00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:45,155
the appointment with, Oleg,
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00:27:45,197 --> 00:27:49,697
he did admit that Kostikov
met with Oswald.
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00:27:49,736 --> 00:27:52,296
This confirms the CIA reporting.
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narrator: CIA veteran Bob Baer
and former police lieutenant
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00:27:55,942 --> 00:27:59,952
Adam Bercovici have returned
to Mexico City armed
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00:27:59,979 --> 00:28:03,279
with new information about
Lee Harvey Oswald's meeting
503
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:06,285
with the KGB,
eight weeks before Oswald
504
00:28:06,318 --> 00:28:09,218
murdered President Kennedy.
505
00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:15,185
- The KGB looked at Oswald
as a ticking time bomb.
506
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:20,467
They knew they didn't want their
fingerprints on him in any way.
507
00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:25,339
I think that's right 'cause
the Russians have better sense
508
00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:29,041
than to conduct violence
inside the United States
509
00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:32,845
in 1963 that any way
could be laid at their doorstep.
510
00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:34,749
It just doesn't make any sense.
511
00:28:34,781 --> 00:28:37,921
I've been working this case
for over a decade,
512
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,150
and I take my time
reaching any conclusions.
513
00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:44,387
Eliminating the Soviets
as potential accomplices
514
00:28:44,423 --> 00:28:47,363
to Oswald isn't something
I do lightly, but,
515
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:50,803
after visiting Moscow
and speaking with Oleg,
516
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:54,900
I'm now convinced the KGB
was not directly behind
517
00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:57,204
the murder of President Kennedy.
518
00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,106
We need to find out
what else Oswald was doing
519
00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:01,469
in Mexico City.
520
00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:03,507
*
521
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:05,812
narrator: At the outset
of the investigation,
522
00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:08,915
Bob and Adam searched through
over two million declassified
523
00:29:08,948 --> 00:29:10,948
government files
for new evidence
524
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:12,483
about Lee Harvey Oswald.
525
00:29:12,518 --> 00:29:16,258
A CIA document
led the team to Mexico City.
526
00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:21,258
In it, CIA director John McCone
instructs all employees
527
00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:24,963
not to answer questions about
Oswald's time in Mexico City.
528
00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:27,297
*
529
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,843
The team now looks for
a new lead from Oswald's trip.
530
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:33,370
- There's something more
to his timeline,
531
00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:35,565
what he was doing
those five, six days
532
00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:39,947
in Mexico City that we need
to get back into.
533
00:29:39,979 --> 00:29:43,919
- Oswald, '63, Mexico City.
534
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:48,920
*
535
00:29:48,955 --> 00:29:50,585
[computer beeps]
536
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,962
- Look at this.
537
00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:55,162
Here's the title
of the document:
538
00:29:55,194 --> 00:29:58,364
"Siliva Duran's Call
to the Soviet Consul Regarding
539
00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:01,527
a North American
Wanting a Visa."
540
00:30:01,567 --> 00:30:06,067
On 28 September, 1963,
Siliva Duran,
541
00:30:06,105 --> 00:30:09,575
a Cuban Embassy employee,
called the Soviet consulate
542
00:30:09,608 --> 00:30:12,238
saying she's got
a North American there
543
00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:15,178
who has been
to the Soviet Embassy
544
00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:17,854
and wishes to speak
with the Cuban consul.
545
00:30:17,884 --> 00:30:20,194
Oswald met with the Cubans.
546
00:30:20,219 --> 00:30:23,119
This file can completely
change the course
547
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:24,415
of this investigation.
548
00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:27,256
We have to get
to the bottom of this.
549
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:30,903
- You know, if the Soviet Union
is public enemy number one,
550
00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:33,170
then the Cubans are 1B.
551
00:30:33,199 --> 00:30:35,399
- [speaking Spanish]
552
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:39,014
narrator: In 1959,
Fidel Castro rises to power
553
00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,938
in Cuba, establishing
the first communist state
554
00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:43,944
in the western hemisphere,
555
00:30:43,976 --> 00:30:48,146
a clear and present danger only
90 miles from American shores.
556
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:51,250
Castro and Kennedy
become instant enemies,
557
00:30:51,283 --> 00:30:55,453
and America wages a secret war
to overthrow the Castro regime.
558
00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:57,317
*
559
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,956
- Siliva Duran, who is she?
560
00:30:59,992 --> 00:31:01,632
*
561
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,060
- Let's see what we got.
562
00:31:03,095 --> 00:31:05,925
*
563
00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:06,965
[computer beeps]
564
00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:08,269
- All right, look at this.
565
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:13,040
"CIA Cable Director 84216.
566
00:31:13,072 --> 00:31:17,082
"Arrest of Siliva Duran
is extremely serious matter
567
00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:20,309
"which could prejudice
American freedom of action
568
00:31:20,346 --> 00:31:25,116
on entire question
of Cuban responsibility."
569
00:31:25,151 --> 00:31:26,921
But look at this.
570
00:31:26,953 --> 00:31:31,223
This cable is sent
the 23rd of November, '63,
571
00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:35,287
literally within hours
of Kennedy's assassination.
572
00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:37,257
I mean, this is incredible.
573
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:41,026
So Oswald is arrested.
The potential accomplice.
574
00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,937
They're not even wondering
whether there's any connection.
575
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,700
They just go right
for the arrest.
576
00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,407
She is clearly a key witness
577
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040
which the Warren Commission
would have found essential
578
00:31:51,077 --> 00:31:53,107
to explain what happened.
579
00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:54,505
- All right,
do you wanna access that?
580
00:31:54,546 --> 00:31:56,546
- Yeah, let's look at that.
- All right.
581
00:31:56,582 --> 00:32:03,562
*
582
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:06,059
[computer beeps]
583
00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:08,292
Hey, guess what.
Nothing.
584
00:32:08,327 --> 00:32:11,257
[ominous music]
585
00:32:11,297 --> 00:32:13,567
*
586
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,099
- You're telling me
that we're getting a blank
587
00:32:16,135 --> 00:32:17,965
to the key witness
to the murder
588
00:32:18,004 --> 00:32:19,374
of the President
of the United States?
589
00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:21,405
A blank?
This isn't the key witness
590
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
that we're saying.
It's the key witness
591
00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:26,175
the CIA's saying,
and the Warren Commission
592
00:32:26,212 --> 00:32:29,352
doesn't talk to her.
593
00:32:29,381 --> 00:32:32,481
The CIA put an arrest warrant
out for Siliva Duran
594
00:32:32,518 --> 00:32:35,048
one day after the assassination,
595
00:32:35,087 --> 00:32:36,617
but the Warren Commission
completely ignored
596
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:38,455
this piece of evidence.
597
00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:41,530
Was this just an oversight,
or something more nefarious?
598
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,730
Why didn't the CIA talk to her?
599
00:32:43,762 --> 00:32:46,772
If she was arrested,
she made a statement
600
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:49,468
to the Mexican police.
601
00:32:49,501 --> 00:32:54,211
That means that the Mexicans
had a file on this woman.
602
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,340
We need to get back into
the police files at any cost.
603
00:32:57,376 --> 00:32:58,636
- I agree.
604
00:32:58,677 --> 00:33:01,747
*
605
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:05,520
narrator: Bob and Adam meet up
with historian Jorge Sanchez
606
00:33:05,551 --> 00:33:08,021
at the National Archive
to investigate
607
00:33:08,054 --> 00:33:09,464
this mysterious woman.
608
00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:19,528
- This is the federal police,
right?
609
00:33:19,565 --> 00:33:22,525
This is the date of the 23rd,
look at the length of that.
610
00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:25,438
And how did they get so much
information within 24 hours?
611
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:29,779
- These are redacted.
612
00:33:29,808 --> 00:33:32,038
- When you have a criminal case,
you don't redact,
613
00:33:32,078 --> 00:33:34,778
so someone's playing
a little game here right now.
614
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:38,353
- When Siliva Duran is arrested,
she gives testimony
615
00:33:38,384 --> 00:33:40,694
of her relationship with Oswald.
616
00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:42,189
What does she say?
617
00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:55,495
- He applies for a visa.
- Yeah.
618
00:34:04,243 --> 00:34:06,513
*
619
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,745
- What you're telling me
is that Siliva Duran
620
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:10,720
was working
in the Cuban Embassy
621
00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:14,389
and Oswald comes in
to ask for a visa.
622
00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:17,860
She tries to assist him,
gives him all the documents
623
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:21,529
he will need, but he doesn't
have the required photographs
624
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,100
to complete
the visa application.
625
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:27,600
When she informs him
that they need the photos,
626
00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:33,173
he turns...dramatic
627
00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:35,605
and starts to make a scene
at the consulate.
628
00:34:35,641 --> 00:34:38,581
[dramatic music]
629
00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:42,650
*
630
00:34:42,681 --> 00:34:47,491
Duran, in her statement
to the police,
631
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,719
says she met Oswald only once.
632
00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:52,286
She never saw him again.
633
00:34:53,392 --> 00:34:55,362
- That's what she says.
634
00:34:55,394 --> 00:34:59,234
What's confusing for me is,
why would she have her own file
635
00:34:59,265 --> 00:35:02,295
if she's just a clerk?
636
00:35:02,334 --> 00:35:05,144
What's the explanation
for her arrest?
637
00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:09,841
You don't go arrest a Mexican
working for the Cuban Embassy
638
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,605
simply because she took
a visa application.
639
00:35:15,581 --> 00:35:19,521
- I think what's crazy about
this is the United States
640
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,321
asked for her arrest.
641
00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:23,863
In other words,
the United States
642
00:35:23,889 --> 00:35:28,459
had something against her,
either from telephone taps,
643
00:35:28,494 --> 00:35:31,564
surveillance, or a source
in the Cuban Embassy.
644
00:35:31,597 --> 00:35:33,697
They knew she was more
than a clerk.
645
00:35:33,732 --> 00:35:35,832
It's explosive.
I mean, we have to find her.
646
00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,497
We have to talk to Duran.
647
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:48,309
As the team begins their search
for this mysterious woman...
648
00:35:48,347 --> 00:35:51,817
Bob's local investigator
verifies that Mexican police
649
00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:54,790
believe Duran is alive
and in Mexico City.
650
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:56,560
- You know, we've got
some limitations here.
651
00:35:56,588 --> 00:35:58,358
We're in a foreign country.
652
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:59,960
- Yeah, they're not gonna
much appreciate it
653
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:01,931
if we go over the line here.
654
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,260
Siliva Duran is one
of the last living witnesses
655
00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:07,267
before the assassination.
656
00:36:07,299 --> 00:36:09,869
We needed to track her down
and see if she'll tell us
657
00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:12,641
the secrets she's been keeping
all these years.
658
00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:15,311
*
659
00:36:15,341 --> 00:36:17,211
- We need to find out
where she lives.
660
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:18,783
- Yeah, let's do a skip trace.
661
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,380
*
662
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:24,553
- A skip trace is something
that is used by both
663
00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:27,353
law enforcement and private
investigators to locate people.
664
00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:28,746
It's looking for utilities.
665
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,617
It's looking
for electrical bills.
666
00:36:30,656 --> 00:36:32,716
It's looking for anything
that can--that that person
667
00:36:32,758 --> 00:36:36,358
has put down in terms
of landmarks for us to find.
668
00:36:36,395 --> 00:36:38,895
It gives us a chance to go out
and find specific places
669
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:40,770
that we can start
knocking on doors
670
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:42,529
and track those people down.
671
00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:43,538
[phone beeps]
672
00:36:43,569 --> 00:36:46,339
- I got the address.
673
00:36:46,372 --> 00:36:49,842
narrator: The skip trace yields
two addresses in and around
674
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:51,975
the Mexico City
metropolitan area.
675
00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:56,350
*
676
00:36:56,382 --> 00:36:58,282
- Hello?
677
00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:00,687
Yes, we're looking
for Mrs. Duran.
678
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,859
*
679
00:37:03,889 --> 00:37:05,589
You don't know the name?
No?
680
00:37:05,624 --> 00:37:08,394
*
681
00:37:08,427 --> 00:37:09,697
Okay, thank you.
682
00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:12,958
*
683
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:13,968
- Next right up here.
684
00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:15,869
- Yep.
685
00:37:15,901 --> 00:37:18,801
Well, there was something
about Siliva Duran
686
00:37:18,837 --> 00:37:23,577
that flagged the CIA
and made them very suspicious,
687
00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:27,409
but, in 54 years, she has not
shared the real story.
688
00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:29,916
I suspect there's
much more to her story
689
00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:31,048
than she's telling anyone.
690
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,852
We need to track her down.
691
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,894
*
692
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,460
narrator: The first address
associated with Duran
693
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:39,289
comes up empty.
694
00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:41,985
The next location
is five miles away
695
00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:44,627
in the southeast corner
of Mexico City.
696
00:37:44,663 --> 00:37:50,303
*
697
00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:52,466
- You guys hang way back.
698
00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:55,674
Cameras in her face,
it's gonna be intimidating.
699
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:59,377
*
700
00:37:59,411 --> 00:38:01,351
How, if you're 80 years old,
do you walk up here?
701
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:06,615
- [knocking on door]
702
00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,752
- Do you hear her?
- Yep.
703
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:14,357
*
704
00:38:14,393 --> 00:38:16,033
- Mrs. Duran?
705
00:38:16,061 --> 00:38:18,531
*
706
00:38:18,564 --> 00:38:20,034
Ms. Duran, this is Bob Baer.
707
00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:21,725
We're doing an investigation.
708
00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:24,467
Could I get some time?
709
00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:26,743
We just want to come in
and talk for a few minutes.
710
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,680
- Please, just--
just five minutes.
711
00:38:33,712 --> 00:38:38,652
*
712
00:38:38,684 --> 00:38:40,554
All right, they're just
not gonna open up.
713
00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:43,386
- Nah, I don't wanna force it.
Hiding from us.
714
00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:44,962
- That's 'cause she's
got something to hide.
715
00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:47,590
*
716
00:38:47,626 --> 00:38:49,396
narrator: Bob and Adam
leave the apartment
717
00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:50,858
they believe belongs to Duran.
718
00:38:50,896 --> 00:38:52,556
- Where are you?
719
00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,598
narrator: But they continue
their efforts.
720
00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:57,973
The team tracks down Duran's
last known phone number.
721
00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:01,543
- On the record, to tell us
exactly what happened.
722
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:04,113
She's agreed to meet us tonight,
723
00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:07,652
so we'll head back to her place,
this time, with a plan.
724
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,779
All right, now, I'm gonna
get back to you in three hours.
725
00:39:09,815 --> 00:39:11,645
All right.
726
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,623
narrator: The team is
about to make contact
727
00:39:13,652 --> 00:39:17,622
with a possible accomplice
to Lee Harvey Oswald.
728
00:39:17,656 --> 00:39:20,756
Siliva Duran has agreed
to speak on camera
729
00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:23,702
for the first time
in more than 50 years.
730
00:39:23,729 --> 00:39:26,359
*
731
00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:38,943
*
732
00:39:38,977 --> 00:39:42,547
The team has managed to
track down her current address
733
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:45,951
and has arranged
to speak with her.
734
00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:48,654
- [knocking on door]
735
00:39:57,629 --> 00:39:59,029
Wanna try a neighbor?
736
00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:00,974
- Yeah.
737
00:40:00,999 --> 00:40:04,699
*
738
00:40:06,505 --> 00:40:07,865
- Do you know Mrs. Duran?
739
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,136
This is Mrs. Duran's
apartment, right?
740
00:40:19,217 --> 00:40:20,887
- Okay.
- Okay.
741
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:23,919
- She--she got up and left.
742
00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:25,885
That tells me a story.
743
00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:28,234
If you're gonna come--
leave your apartment...
744
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:30,999
- Yeah.
- And--to avoid us,
745
00:40:31,029 --> 00:40:32,799
she doesn't wanna say anything.
746
00:40:32,831 --> 00:40:36,471
- Yeah, she's hiding out,
making a run for it.
747
00:40:36,502 --> 00:40:38,802
- We got the right apartment,
and she just got up and left.
748
00:40:38,837 --> 00:40:40,667
And he said he sees her,
and that she's not here.
749
00:40:40,706 --> 00:40:42,066
- Yeah.
750
00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:43,977
- For me, that tells me
the whole story.
751
00:40:44,009 --> 00:40:46,239
She ran for it.
752
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,007
The fact that Siliva Duran
will not talk to us
753
00:40:49,047 --> 00:40:52,117
makes me even more suspicious
about what she knows.
754
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:55,720
The fact that an 85-year-old
woman made a run for it
755
00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:59,534
tells me she'll take
her secrets to the grave.
756
00:40:59,558 --> 00:41:02,258
Now it's absolutely crucial
we find someone
757
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,133
who will tell us what she knows.
758
00:41:04,162 --> 00:41:07,832
If we can find another witness,
someone who can shed light
759
00:41:07,866 --> 00:41:11,096
on this mystery,
we could find evidence linking
760
00:41:11,136 --> 00:41:14,936
the Cubans to the assassination
of John F. Kennedy.
761
00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:18,283
That would change U.S. history.
762
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,849
Let's move on.
- Yep.
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00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:22,848
[dramatic music]
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*
765
00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:27,023
narrator: Next,
on "Tracking Oswald"...
766
00:41:27,052 --> 00:41:28,992
- We're gonna go see this guy,
see if he'll talk.
767
00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:30,760
- Let's see what
this guy has to say.
768
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:41,000
*
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00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:43,102
- We have to dig deeper
about Oswald's connections
770
00:41:43,134 --> 00:41:44,974
with the Cubans.
771
00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:48,273
My hunch is that Oswald's
first contact
772
00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:50,836
started right here
in New Orleans.
773
00:41:50,876 --> 00:41:53,976
The deeper we get into it,
the more that this guy
774
00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:55,812
does not look like a lone wolf.
775
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,647
He had accomplices.
776
00:41:57,683 --> 00:42:00,123
We got to figure out
what they were doing here.
777
00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:02,151
This is incredible.
778
00:42:02,187 --> 00:42:04,887
Oswald stormed
into the embassy saying,
779
00:42:04,923 --> 00:42:06,993
"I'm going to kill Kennedy
for this."
780
00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:10,795
This document could finally
reveal Oswald's motive
781
00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:13,769
for the assassination
of John F. Kennedy.
782
00:42:13,799 --> 00:42:15,999
- That is something else.
- This is explosive.
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