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Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 5 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:39,400 I'm Hill Harper. 6 00:00:39,433 --> 00:00:42,383 After a wildly successful 30-year stint on the Vegas strip 7 00:00:42,416 --> 00:00:44,346 with their iconic brand of magic -- 8 00:00:44,383 --> 00:00:47,053 making elephants, lions, and tigers disappear 9 00:00:47,083 --> 00:00:50,033 into thin air -- master illusionists 10 00:00:50,066 --> 00:00:52,076 Siegfried and Roy's world-renowned performances 11 00:00:52,116 --> 00:00:54,016 came to an abrupt end. 12 00:00:54,050 --> 00:00:57,020 Montecore, one of their famous white tigers, 13 00:00:57,050 --> 00:00:58,330 grabbed Roy Horn by the neck 14 00:00:58,366 --> 00:01:01,326 and dragged him off-stage in front of the live audience. 15 00:01:01,366 --> 00:01:04,066 From that moment on, Siegfried and Roy 16 00:01:04,100 --> 00:01:06,170 consistently presented one version 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,470 of what happened that night. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,230 But some people are questioning the magicians' story. 19 00:01:11,266 --> 00:01:13,296 Tonight, we will hear from eye-witnesses, 20 00:01:13,333 --> 00:01:16,073 investigative journalists, big-cat experts, 21 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:18,280 about the shocking tiger attack onstage 22 00:01:18,316 --> 00:01:21,466 at the MGM Mirage October 3, 2003. 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,250 Here's how it really happened. 24 00:01:24,283 --> 00:01:28,473 ♪♪ 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,200 ♪♪ 26 00:01:33,233 --> 00:01:35,283 [ Cheers and applause ] 27 00:01:35,316 --> 00:01:38,126 Jillette: I was always terrified by their act. 28 00:01:38,166 --> 00:01:40,216 We would go see the Siegfried and Roy show. 29 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:44,250 Those animals in that close a proximity to humans -- 30 00:01:44,283 --> 00:01:45,383 terrifying. 31 00:01:45,416 --> 00:01:46,426 Terrifying. 32 00:01:46,466 --> 00:01:49,446 They were kings of the Las Vegas Strip. 33 00:01:49,483 --> 00:01:53,403 They werethe of Las Vegas. 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,170 Siegfried and Roy were really spectacular at what they did. 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,000 [ Woman laughs ] 36 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:04,173 They were sort of bigger than life in so many ways. 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,150 I mean, I think everyone knew that they had a show 38 00:02:06,183 --> 00:02:08,083 that had white tigers and white lions, 39 00:02:08,116 --> 00:02:10,176 and that made them unique. 40 00:02:10,216 --> 00:02:13,346 We started with a breeding program about 10 years ago. 41 00:02:13,383 --> 00:02:16,303 Then, today, we can proudly say 42 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:19,453 we have 27 white tigers and five snow white tigers. 43 00:02:19,483 --> 00:02:21,473 [ Cubs mewing ] 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,220 Animals that don't exist in the wild. 45 00:02:24,250 --> 00:02:27,100 I mean, weird hybrids, you know? 46 00:02:28,266 --> 00:02:31,176 Crazy white tigers, white lions. 47 00:02:31,216 --> 00:02:33,466 I mean, white, white, white, white, 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 [Laughs] in every way. 49 00:02:37,033 --> 00:02:39,173 Salmoni: Every night, they've got humongous, 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,170 full-grown lions and tigers onstage, 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,000 with a live audience, with no barrier between, 52 00:02:45,033 --> 00:02:50,373 and you cannot prepare for all of the worst-case scenarios. 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,070 Smith: They were entertainers. 54 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:53,270 They were flamboyant. 55 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:56,000 They were real hams with the audience, 56 00:02:56,033 --> 00:02:57,283 and the audience really ate that up. 57 00:02:57,316 --> 00:02:58,476 They just -- They loved it. 58 00:02:59,016 --> 00:03:01,016 They're kind of analogous to the rolling stones -- 59 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:04,400 you know, big spectacle and big bombast and big 60 00:03:04,433 --> 00:03:06,323 "Look at me onstage." 61 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:10,050 Tapert: They would always, at the end, have this tag line 62 00:03:10,083 --> 00:03:12,433 about following your dreams, and it was very emotional. 63 00:03:12,466 --> 00:03:14,216 It was very empowering. 64 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:17,230 You could see why people would come there. 65 00:03:17,266 --> 00:03:20,326 They were like magical evangelists. 66 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:22,346 Since opening at Mirage in 1990, 67 00:03:22,383 --> 00:03:26,303 they have sold out at a rate of 104% capacity for every show. 68 00:03:26,333 --> 00:03:28,403 That's at $90 a seat. 69 00:03:28,433 --> 00:03:30,033 For eight straight years, 70 00:03:30,066 --> 00:03:32,026 they've drawn 15,000 people a week, 71 00:03:32,066 --> 00:03:34,216 700,000 a year -- have been seen 72 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:36,470 by over 30 million people live in Las Vegas. 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,020 Their gross receipts over the last nine years -- 74 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:41,130 more than a half-billion dollars. 75 00:03:41,166 --> 00:03:44,216 How do you -- How do you explain it to yourselves? 76 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:45,420 It's unexplainable, really. 77 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:48,000 I mean, that sounds wonderful. 78 00:03:48,033 --> 00:03:52,053 I feel we are only as good as our last show. 79 00:03:52,083 --> 00:03:55,323 Burns: They made the animals in the show look really scary 80 00:03:55,350 --> 00:04:00,130 and have that element of fear kind of built in. 81 00:04:00,166 --> 00:04:01,226 Then they're taunting them -- 82 00:04:01,266 --> 00:04:03,326 making them, you know, reach out of the cage 83 00:04:03,366 --> 00:04:05,076 and try to get the performers. 84 00:04:05,116 --> 00:04:06,426 [ Cheers and applause ] 85 00:04:06,466 --> 00:04:10,046 Bennett: It's sort of like Broadway on steroids 86 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:12,333 with tigers and lions, 87 00:04:12,366 --> 00:04:15,246 and that made it spectacular. 88 00:04:15,283 --> 00:04:19,153 Roy was doing stuff that I found tremendously dangerous, 89 00:04:19,183 --> 00:04:21,233 and he was making it look like it wasn't. 90 00:04:21,266 --> 00:04:23,246 That's what attracts me, is that eventual -- 91 00:04:23,283 --> 00:04:24,323 is that danger. 92 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:27,030 We have underlying danger all the time. 93 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:29,246 But if you understand and if you start learning it, 94 00:04:29,283 --> 00:04:31,153 you don't need any of that. 95 00:04:31,183 --> 00:04:34,423 You can make him do whatever you want him to do, 96 00:04:34,450 --> 00:04:36,350 but then there are characteristics 97 00:04:36,383 --> 00:04:38,303 where you can never change -- 98 00:04:38,333 --> 00:04:40,023 You want them to be tigers. 99 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:41,180 I want them to be tigers. 100 00:04:41,216 --> 00:04:43,066 [ Tiger growling ] 101 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:47,030 De Laurentiis: Those lions and tigers were big. [ Laughs ] 102 00:04:47,066 --> 00:04:49,126 I mean, they weren't little babies. 103 00:04:49,166 --> 00:04:50,446 They were big guys. 104 00:04:50,483 --> 00:04:52,303 And they were so beautiful. 105 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:56,273 You know, being that close without being behind a wall 106 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:57,420 was really amazing. 107 00:04:57,450 --> 00:05:01,150 The physical size of them -- how Siegfried and Roy 108 00:05:01,183 --> 00:05:03,133 treated the lions or treated the tigers 109 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:06,126 and, you know, what they made them do very easily. 110 00:05:06,166 --> 00:05:11,046 I never felt that things weren't completely under control 111 00:05:11,083 --> 00:05:13,373 and that there was a mutual respect 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,370 between the animals and him. 113 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,380 Now, is that naive on my part? 114 00:05:16,416 --> 00:05:18,416 [ Tiger growls ] Probably. 115 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:22,370 Do you have any fear of your animals, Siegfried? 116 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,420 -No, I-- -You have to have respect. 117 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:26,020 I have respect. That's all. 118 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:27,250 But they're used to it, you know? 119 00:05:27,283 --> 00:05:31,033 -Not worried that anything -- -Well, you can do no mistakes. 120 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:32,996 You know, you can make no mistakes. 121 00:05:33,033 --> 00:05:35,033 Have you been hurt? 122 00:05:35,066 --> 00:05:36,276 So far, so good. No. 123 00:05:36,316 --> 00:05:38,396 Burns: And it was all very controlled. 124 00:05:38,433 --> 00:05:40,403 Like, you could tell that 125 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:42,253 the performers knew what they were doing. 126 00:05:42,283 --> 00:05:44,373 You could tell the animals had done this before, 127 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,070 and everyone had a good handle on what was going on. 128 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,120 Until the bite. 129 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:53,330 Until the accident happened. 130 00:05:55,183 --> 00:05:57,323 And then it was like everything blew up. 131 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:59,120 [ Siren wailing ] 132 00:06:05,433 --> 00:06:07,383 Moss: We're hearing over the two-way 133 00:06:07,416 --> 00:06:10,476 that he was in extremely critical condition. 134 00:06:18,383 --> 00:06:20,283 We were the first live truck there. 135 00:06:20,316 --> 00:06:22,116 Mic on. Five, four, three, two, one. 136 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:23,470 People were kind of frantic. 137 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,430 Everybody was trying to get the story. 138 00:06:26,466 --> 00:06:29,116 Tonight, a lot more on the story of the Vegas superstar 139 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:31,170 mauled by one of his beloved tigers. 140 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,250 Our other top story takes us to Las Vegas, 141 00:06:33,283 --> 00:06:36,223 where entertainer Roy Horn of Siegfried & Roy 142 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:37,280 was badly mauled. 143 00:06:37,316 --> 00:06:39,026 It's at the MGM Mirage. 144 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,426 King: Hundreds of people watch in horror. 145 00:06:40,466 --> 00:06:42,126 Roy is in critical condition. 146 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:45,346 He fights for his life tonight. 147 00:06:45,383 --> 00:06:47,453 Jillette: When we found out that Roy had been hurt, 148 00:06:47,483 --> 00:06:51,433 I was very upset, and part of what I was upset about was, 149 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:56,066 I was not entirely surprised. 150 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:58,300 Roy Horn might be dead. 151 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:00,473 "No, that's not possible." 152 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,480 It almost didn't sink in. 153 00:07:09,216 --> 00:07:13,146 Burns: October 3, 2003. 154 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:16,233 We went to the Siegfried & Roy show. 155 00:07:16,266 --> 00:07:19,296 After the first half of the show, 156 00:07:19,333 --> 00:07:21,123 they put the curtains down, 157 00:07:21,150 --> 00:07:23,070 and the lights came up a little bit. 158 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:26,080 And Roy walks out with the tiger to the front of the stage, 159 00:07:26,116 --> 00:07:28,076 closer to where we were sitting, and he said, 160 00:07:28,116 --> 00:07:29,396 "This is my friend Montecore. 161 00:07:29,433 --> 00:07:31,283 It's his first night performing." 162 00:07:31,316 --> 00:07:35,216 This is Montecore, and tonight is his first appearance 163 00:07:35,250 --> 00:07:37,250 in front of an audience. 164 00:07:37,283 --> 00:07:38,353 [ Gasps ] 165 00:07:38,383 --> 00:07:40,173 The audience, you know -- "Oh, his first time." 166 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,030 You know, they kind of get a little chill when he says that. 167 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:44,126 Which of course, we found out later, 168 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:46,146 he was there for maybe -- what, six years? 169 00:07:46,183 --> 00:07:48,323 Montecore was special to Roy. 170 00:07:48,350 --> 00:07:51,150 He'd raised him from birth. 171 00:07:51,183 --> 00:07:54,273 This was a tiger that was really close to Roy's heart. 172 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:56,270 I'll never forget -- he had a collar on 173 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:58,380 and a little leash about this big, 174 00:07:58,416 --> 00:08:01,396 and it just -- that was the first thing I said. 175 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:03,403 "Wow, he's got this little, 176 00:08:03,433 --> 00:08:07,103 tiny leash on this big, monster animal." 177 00:08:07,133 --> 00:08:10,423 When you have a white tiger walking on a leash this long 178 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:13,380 and you're only 140 pounds and 60 years old, 179 00:08:13,416 --> 00:08:15,276 that's just as good as untethered. 180 00:08:15,316 --> 00:08:18,126 There is nothing Roy Horn could have done 181 00:08:18,166 --> 00:08:22,166 if that tiger decided he wanted to jump out into the crowd. 182 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,420 De Laurentiis: He walks out and he gets about three-quarters 183 00:08:24,450 --> 00:08:26,130 of the way down the runway. 184 00:08:26,166 --> 00:08:31,096 Montecore, I guess, was supposed to turn around and come back, 185 00:08:31,133 --> 00:08:32,483 and he wouldn't move. 186 00:08:33,016 --> 00:08:35,216 And his chain -- tugged on the leash a little more, 187 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:37,320 and Montecore looked at him funny. 188 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:40,180 But all of the sudden, he grabbed his arm. 189 00:08:42,466 --> 00:08:47,376 [ Sirens wailing ] 190 00:08:47,416 --> 00:08:53,126 The tiger kind of turned its head and bit him on the arm. 191 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:56,016 He could have taken Roy's arm off without blinking, 192 00:08:56,050 --> 00:08:59,020 but he looked like he was just kind of holding on to it, 193 00:08:59,050 --> 00:09:03,000 and Roy didn't like that at all. 194 00:09:03,033 --> 00:09:05,083 Roy started taking the microphone -- 195 00:09:05,116 --> 00:09:08,076 just started whamping the tiger on the head. 196 00:09:08,116 --> 00:09:11,276 At that point, the tiger swatted at Roy. 197 00:09:11,316 --> 00:09:12,446 You know, there was a little bit of commotion 198 00:09:12,483 --> 00:09:14,183 between him and the tiger. 199 00:09:14,216 --> 00:09:16,066 They're both down on the ground and he's -- 200 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:17,350 and he's still holding him, 201 00:09:17,383 --> 00:09:20,033 and he's still hitting the tiger on the head. 202 00:09:20,066 --> 00:09:21,416 Boom -- you could hear it all over the audience. 203 00:09:21,450 --> 00:09:25,150 Boom! 204 00:09:25,183 --> 00:09:28,473 And in a blink, his legs went like -- 205 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 two or three times like that. 206 00:09:31,033 --> 00:09:33,123 It was so fast, you couldn't even see how fast 207 00:09:33,150 --> 00:09:35,300 he jumped up and grabbed him. 208 00:09:35,333 --> 00:09:37,203 Man: We just see him get -- He got attacked. 209 00:09:37,233 --> 00:09:39,183 He was holding on to the tiger, and the tiger just, 210 00:09:39,216 --> 00:09:41,996 like, grabbed his leg, knocked him down. 211 00:09:42,033 --> 00:09:43,423 We thought it was part of the show. 212 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:46,030 Then we just noticed him pounding with his microphone 213 00:09:46,066 --> 00:09:47,346 on the tiger, like, so hard. 214 00:09:47,383 --> 00:09:49,203 Before you knew what happened -- boom. 215 00:09:49,233 --> 00:09:51,303 Right up into his neck and shoulder area -- 216 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:56,223 right here -- and just dragged him offstage really quickly. 217 00:09:56,250 --> 00:09:59,120 It was really scary. 218 00:09:59,150 --> 00:10:01,170 De Laurentiis: When Montecore grabbed him by the neck, 219 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,200 his feet went like this, 220 00:10:03,233 --> 00:10:06,323 and -- boom -- he was, like, hanging. 221 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:10,230 And Montecore just slowly -- boom, boom. 222 00:10:10,266 --> 00:10:13,126 Just like he maybe was walking through the jungle or something. 223 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:15,316 Just walked right past us. 224 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:16,330 Man: The tiger just grabs him. 225 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:18,296 Like, just locks on him, picks him up, 226 00:10:18,333 --> 00:10:21,323 and just takes him back of the stage. 227 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:23,080 Roy was completely limp. 228 00:10:23,116 --> 00:10:25,176 He wasn't struggling or screaming. 229 00:10:25,216 --> 00:10:27,246 You didn't see any blood on his shirt. 230 00:10:27,283 --> 00:10:30,203 You didn't see anything on the stage. 231 00:10:30,233 --> 00:10:32,323 De Laurentiis: Someone had opened the curtain, 232 00:10:32,350 --> 00:10:35,350 and Montecore just calmly, with Roy in his mouth, 233 00:10:35,383 --> 00:10:37,423 walked behind the curtain. 234 00:10:37,450 --> 00:10:43,230 When he went by, the look on his face was a dead person. 235 00:10:43,266 --> 00:10:45,426 Burns:: When Montecore carried Roy offstage, 236 00:10:45,466 --> 00:10:50,276 a couple stagehands or handlers ran from the opposite stage side 237 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:52,046 and were chasing after him. 238 00:10:52,083 --> 00:10:54,473 And I do remember seeing some things on the stage, 239 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,220 and I think it was meat 240 00:10:56,250 --> 00:10:59,150 to try to entice the tiger back another way. 241 00:10:59,183 --> 00:11:01,403 I don't think Montecore was following the meat. 242 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:05,153 He was just on a mission [Chuckles] to go somewhere. 243 00:11:05,183 --> 00:11:07,083 He had him by the neck. 244 00:11:07,116 --> 00:11:09,046 He could have just bit his head off. 245 00:11:09,083 --> 00:11:11,023 And he could have jumped in the audience, for that matter, 246 00:11:11,050 --> 00:11:14,170 but I don't think anybody thought about that part of it. 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Maybe a minute or two later, 248 00:11:16,033 --> 00:11:18,003 I think they hit him with a fire extinguisher, 249 00:11:18,033 --> 00:11:20,383 and that's when Montecore let Roy go. 250 00:11:20,416 --> 00:11:22,366 And then, the sound... 251 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:30,030 of him moaning was the scariest part, 252 00:11:30,066 --> 00:11:33,296 'cause you could tell that he was hurt behind the curtain. 253 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:37,073 It was like a moan of death, somebody dying. 254 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:40,120 You don't want to hear that in your life either. 255 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:44,080 Burns: And finally, someone said over the loudspeaker, 256 00:11:44,116 --> 00:11:45,246 "The show is over. 257 00:11:45,283 --> 00:11:48,353 This is how you get your money back for your tickets. 258 00:11:48,383 --> 00:11:50,153 Sorry. Have a good night." 259 00:11:50,183 --> 00:11:54,003 ♪♪ 260 00:11:54,033 --> 00:11:57,283 Moss: We moved our live shot to UMC, 261 00:11:57,316 --> 00:12:00,116 which is our biggest ER center. 262 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:01,250 Take a look behind me. 263 00:12:01,283 --> 00:12:02,383 Family and friends are already out here. 264 00:12:02,416 --> 00:12:04,146 People were already out there. 265 00:12:04,183 --> 00:12:07,223 We could see Siegfried, through the emergency doors, 266 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:08,470 pacing back and forth. 267 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,230 They came out several times to update us. 268 00:12:11,266 --> 00:12:13,076 The injury was to the left side of his neck. 269 00:12:13,116 --> 00:12:15,076 They treated him for massive blood loss. 270 00:12:15,116 --> 00:12:16,276 He was admitted immediately 271 00:12:16,316 --> 00:12:18,226 and went into surgery almost immediately. 272 00:12:18,266 --> 00:12:21,216 It's certainly a somber scene out here in Vegas. 273 00:12:21,250 --> 00:12:23,380 We're told the surgery went well. 274 00:12:23,416 --> 00:12:26,046 The Mirage says all their shows will be cancelled 275 00:12:26,083 --> 00:12:27,233 until further notice, 276 00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:30,046 and that tiger is being quarantined. 277 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,403 It was traumatic because nobody knew 278 00:12:33,433 --> 00:12:36,133 what the ultimate conclusion was gonna be. 279 00:12:36,166 --> 00:12:39,096 Was he gonna make it? 280 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:41,273 There were already dozens -- 281 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:45,000 and within another hour, hundreds of people outside 282 00:12:45,033 --> 00:12:47,333 holding a candlelight vigil just spontaneously. 283 00:12:47,366 --> 00:12:49,026 No one had organized it. 284 00:12:49,066 --> 00:12:50,216 It was just fans that were worried. 285 00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:53,420 That was how big they were in the Las Vegas community. 286 00:12:53,450 --> 00:12:55,180 We saw Penn outside. 287 00:12:55,216 --> 00:12:58,046 He's hard to miss -- very tall man. 288 00:12:58,083 --> 00:13:00,423 Obviously distraught over the situation, 289 00:13:00,450 --> 00:13:04,330 and it was a very emotional sight 290 00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:09,116 to see that many people holding candles outside a hospital. 291 00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:11,050 I arrived over at the hospital, 292 00:13:11,083 --> 00:13:13,123 and Bernie Yuman, their manager -- 293 00:13:13,150 --> 00:13:17,250 he said that he felt emotionally unable to speak to the press, 294 00:13:17,283 --> 00:13:20,033 and Siegfried was unable to speak to the press. 295 00:13:20,066 --> 00:13:23,416 Bernie asked if I would go down and speak to the TV cameras. 296 00:13:23,450 --> 00:13:25,170 It's really not good. 297 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,400 I mean, I'm sure there's hope. 298 00:13:27,433 --> 00:13:30,083 I mean, when I talked to Siegfried last night, 299 00:13:30,116 --> 00:13:33,126 he said, you know, it was going to be okay. 300 00:13:33,166 --> 00:13:34,316 You have no idea what that means. 301 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:37,120 It means a friend that he's loved dearly 302 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,320 and worked with for 28 years is -- 303 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:42,400 his heart's still beating, and there's still hope. 304 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:46,033 The latest I've heard is, you know, critical but stable, 305 00:13:46,066 --> 00:13:49,466 and he is reacting to doctors. 306 00:13:52,416 --> 00:13:54,226 Moss: It took at least 48 hours 307 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:57,376 before we got any specifics on the surgeries. 308 00:13:57,416 --> 00:14:01,396 We found out that there was a craniectomy that was performed. 309 00:14:01,433 --> 00:14:04,403 It's not every day that you hear about surgery that sounds 310 00:14:04,433 --> 00:14:07,253 almost like something, you know, out of science fiction. 311 00:14:07,283 --> 00:14:09,273 They took off part of his skull 312 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:12,450 so his brain swelling could increase and then decrease. 313 00:14:12,483 --> 00:14:14,123 And while it was off, 314 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:18,130 they put the part of the skull into his abdomen so -- 315 00:14:18,166 --> 00:14:22,176 to keep it viable until they were able to replace it 316 00:14:22,216 --> 00:14:23,396 and put it back, you know -- 317 00:14:23,433 --> 00:14:26,033 back as part of his skull so that he could heal. 318 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:30,126 We had also heard from a doctor that, at one point, 319 00:14:30,166 --> 00:14:33,026 they thought they had lost Roy. 320 00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,073 [ Sirens wailing ] 321 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:41,380 King: Tonight -- exclusive -- 322 00:14:41,416 --> 00:14:44,246 master illusionist Siegfried Fischbacher 323 00:14:44,283 --> 00:14:49,173 and Siegfried & Roy's longtime manager, Bernie Yuman. 324 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,270 What's the latest, Siegfried, on Roy's condition? 325 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:54,350 Well, I just left Roy two hours ago. 326 00:14:54,383 --> 00:14:58,153 He responded excellent. 327 00:14:58,183 --> 00:15:02,373 The doctors say it's magic, what's happening, 328 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,320 and I'm very grateful. 329 00:15:04,350 --> 00:15:06,180 It's only four days ago. 330 00:15:06,216 --> 00:15:07,346 What is his condition? 331 00:15:07,383 --> 00:15:10,473 His condition is stable. 332 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,330 He's critical, and I don't think there's any way 333 00:15:14,366 --> 00:15:18,246 that you can really give a long-term prognosis. 334 00:15:18,283 --> 00:15:20,053 Was there ever a time, Siegfried, 335 00:15:20,083 --> 00:15:22,053 you thought you lost him? 336 00:15:22,083 --> 00:15:23,173 Yes and no. 337 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,270 Really not, because I know Roy, you know? 338 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:30,300 And I always say -- [Laughs] for all these years, 339 00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:35,033 I always say I'm the magician, and he's the magic. 340 00:15:35,066 --> 00:15:38,076 Moss: The concentration, of course, in the news was, 341 00:15:38,116 --> 00:15:40,996 "Is this man going to survive?" 342 00:15:41,033 --> 00:15:44,453 And when we knew that it was a matter of rehabilitation, 343 00:15:44,483 --> 00:15:46,303 we had started to hear that, 344 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:51,073 possibly, the tiger was trying to help Roy off the stage 345 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,380 because he was acting differently. 346 00:15:53,416 --> 00:15:55,266 [ Applause ] 347 00:15:58,450 --> 00:16:00,470 What happened that night? 348 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,150 Where were you? 349 00:16:02,183 --> 00:16:03,303 I was onstage. 350 00:16:03,333 --> 00:16:08,053 We go our show through, like -- like clockwork. 351 00:16:10,450 --> 00:16:15,280 Was -- something was just -- maybe a little confusion. 352 00:16:15,316 --> 00:16:17,096 Something wrong. Did you sense -- 353 00:16:17,133 --> 00:16:19,103 Not wrong -- wrong at that time. 354 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:20,423 What did you -- What did you see? 355 00:16:20,450 --> 00:16:22,180 I just saw the -- the tiger, 356 00:16:22,216 --> 00:16:24,216 and it grabbed him on the sleeve like this, 357 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:26,280 and -- and Roy said, "Let go." 358 00:16:26,316 --> 00:16:30,996 And the tiger let go, and Roy went back and he slipped. 359 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,073 He tripped. 360 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:33,220 Oh, he fell. He fell. 361 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:35,350 Do you think he was trying to help him? 362 00:16:35,383 --> 00:16:39,033 That's exactly what I think. That was the way. 363 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:40,466 Roy fall, and he want protect. 364 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,270 So, he took Roy and put him backstage behind the curtain -- 365 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:45,450 To protect him. 366 00:16:45,483 --> 00:16:51,003 To protect him, and then he let Roy go and went back. 367 00:16:51,033 --> 00:16:52,483 Montecore was helping save his friend -- 368 00:16:53,016 --> 00:16:54,176 to take him to safety. 369 00:16:54,216 --> 00:16:56,096 That's -- This is not an attack. 370 00:16:56,133 --> 00:16:57,273 This was not a mauling. 371 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:02,070 This was Montecore taking his friend to safety. 372 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:06,280 It was the very beginning of how they spun the story -- 373 00:17:06,316 --> 00:17:09,096 how they created the myth. 374 00:17:09,133 --> 00:17:12,233 The story wasn't that this was maybe a failure of training 375 00:17:12,266 --> 00:17:14,376 or a momentary slip. 376 00:17:14,416 --> 00:17:17,426 The story was that this wild tiger 377 00:17:17,466 --> 00:17:24,146 was actively trying to help the person he was attacking. 378 00:17:24,183 --> 00:17:27,153 Goldman: Steve Wynn, the billionaire casino owner, 379 00:17:27,183 --> 00:17:29,083 gives this bizarre interview... 380 00:17:29,116 --> 00:17:32,316 For whatever reason, Montecore was fascinated by a woman 381 00:17:32,350 --> 00:17:35,030 with a big hairdo at ringside. 382 00:17:40,083 --> 00:17:44,283 ...where he claims this woman with, like, a big beehive hairdo 383 00:17:44,316 --> 00:17:46,116 [Laughing] had distracted Montecore. 384 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:48,320 And I'll never forget listening to this, 385 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:51,120 thinking to myself, "What?" 386 00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:53,170 And on -- down on all four, 387 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,130 puts his face over 4 inches from the woman and looks at her. 388 00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:57,216 Man: Mm. 389 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:58,480 The woman thinks this is part of the show 390 00:17:59,016 --> 00:18:00,176 and thinks, "How adorable." 391 00:18:00,216 --> 00:18:03,076 Montecore's head is 26 inches wide. 392 00:18:03,116 --> 00:18:05,196 Roy is talking and sees this move, 393 00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:07,023 and he sees the woman reach up to -- 394 00:18:07,050 --> 00:18:09,280 to give Montecore a rub under the chin. 395 00:18:09,316 --> 00:18:12,196 That's way wrong all the way around. 396 00:18:12,233 --> 00:18:14,283 He -- As usual, the heroic fellow that he is, 397 00:18:14,316 --> 00:18:18,416 he jumps in between the woman and the tiger. 398 00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:20,450 And I'm thinking to myself, "What ridiculous theories 399 00:18:20,483 --> 00:18:23,023 are they trying to push out into the public?" 400 00:18:23,050 --> 00:18:25,030 People were actually buying it. 401 00:18:25,066 --> 00:18:28,276 But this is utter and complete nonsense, 402 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:29,426 and somehow, you know, 403 00:18:29,466 --> 00:18:32,096 it started taking on a life of its own. 404 00:18:32,133 --> 00:18:34,003 And there I was, having to, like, 405 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:36,323 write it in the copy that Steve Wynn -- 406 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:39,300 who wasn't there, had no first-hand knowledge -- 407 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:41,283 thinks that a woman with a beehive haircut 408 00:18:41,316 --> 00:18:43,226 had somehow distracted the tiger, and -- 409 00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:47,176 and that caused the tiger to lose focus or something. 410 00:18:49,183 --> 00:18:51,453 Now he wants to shock the cat into paying attention, 411 00:18:51,483 --> 00:18:54,203 and he whacks him with the microphone, which is rubber. 412 00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:57,003 Didn't hurt him, but it made a loud noise. 413 00:18:57,033 --> 00:18:59,453 The cat lets go on command. 414 00:18:59,483 --> 00:19:01,433 Roy falls backwards, 415 00:19:01,466 --> 00:19:07,146 pulling over the paw of Montecore on his back. 416 00:19:07,183 --> 00:19:09,373 There's four guys jumping on this cat, 417 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,270 trying to get the cat to behave. 418 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:14,330 Montecore gets confused. 419 00:19:14,366 --> 00:19:16,046 "What's going on?" 420 00:19:16,083 --> 00:19:19,373 Montecore gets up, cool as a cucumber, leans over, 421 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,430 and picks up Roy like a cub on the right side of his neck. 422 00:19:24,466 --> 00:19:27,116 Not a bite, not an attack. 423 00:19:27,150 --> 00:19:28,480 He picks him up. 424 00:19:31,333 --> 00:19:35,323 The night of the event, when we were 425 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:39,000 spending time with -- with their manager, Bernie, 426 00:19:39,033 --> 00:19:41,023 and waiting to do our -- 427 00:19:41,050 --> 00:19:44,320 our next interview, he told us a lot about Siegfried and Roy 428 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:46,230 and how they lived with the tigers 429 00:19:46,266 --> 00:19:49,046 and how they slept in bed with the tigers 430 00:19:49,083 --> 00:19:52,203 and how they had the tigers kind of as -- 431 00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:53,473 as pets like we'd have dogs. 432 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,250 And they have them roaming around free 433 00:19:56,283 --> 00:19:58,283 in their house just like pets. 434 00:19:58,316 --> 00:20:00,096 Goldman: You know, the whole idea is, 435 00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:02,333 "Siegfried and Roy can control these wild animals!" 436 00:20:02,366 --> 00:20:04,326 And then, one day, you find out they can't. 437 00:20:04,366 --> 00:20:07,266 I'm here to announce to you tonight that the Siegfried & Roy 438 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:11,450 spectacle at the Mirage is now closed indefinitely. 439 00:20:11,483 --> 00:20:16,183 Bernie was nervous about what would happen to Montecore 440 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:19,376 because, you know, what people would assume had happened 441 00:20:19,416 --> 00:20:23,176 and what he thought really had happened didn't match. 442 00:20:23,216 --> 00:20:26,046 It was not an attack. 443 00:20:26,083 --> 00:20:28,323 I was standing on the side. I saw it. 444 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:30,400 It was an accident. 445 00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:33,403 And when the cat dragged Roy back onstage, 446 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:36,233 and Roy said, "Don't harm. 447 00:20:36,266 --> 00:20:38,066 Don't shoot. 448 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:40,480 Don't harm the cat." 449 00:20:41,016 --> 00:20:42,466 Roy's partner, Siegfried Fischbacher, 450 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,130 now claims the mauling was actually an accident. 451 00:20:46,166 --> 00:20:48,276 That is also the opinion of Steve Wynn. 452 00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:51,096 He is the legendary casino developer in Las Vegas 453 00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:53,133 who actually brought Siegfried & Roy to town 454 00:20:53,166 --> 00:20:55,096 and remains a close friend to this day. 455 00:20:55,133 --> 00:20:58,203 To suggest that a cat viscously attacked Roy 456 00:20:58,233 --> 00:21:01,333 and tried to maul Roy because of something that happened 457 00:21:01,366 --> 00:21:02,466 is a ridiculous statement, 458 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,350 if you know anything about Roy Horn 459 00:21:04,383 --> 00:21:09,073 and the 44-year history of these animals with this man. 460 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:12,100 -I should make it clear -- -Cats don't attack Roy. 461 00:21:12,133 --> 00:21:15,033 Salmoni: The trap is forgetting that it's a wild animal 462 00:21:15,066 --> 00:21:16,346 with wild-animal instincts. 463 00:21:16,383 --> 00:21:18,053 [ Laughs ] 464 00:21:18,083 --> 00:21:22,033 Just because that tiger loves me has no bearing 465 00:21:22,066 --> 00:21:24,366 on whether that tiger is gonna try and kill me. 466 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,120 [ Tiger roars ] 467 00:21:30,116 --> 00:21:31,346 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 468 00:21:31,383 --> 00:21:33,403 In the weeks following the heart-stopping night 469 00:21:33,433 --> 00:21:36,333 where Montecore, a 380-pound white tiger, 470 00:21:36,366 --> 00:21:38,296 sank his teeth into Roy Horn's neck 471 00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:40,403 before dragging him offstage, 472 00:21:40,433 --> 00:21:42,483 Siegfried and the performers's inner circle 473 00:21:43,016 --> 00:21:45,076 distanced themselves from the word "attack," 474 00:21:45,116 --> 00:21:48,096 telling everyone that it was a life-saving act by the tiger, 475 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:50,383 who was not behaving as a deadly predator, 476 00:21:50,416 --> 00:21:52,096 but as a loving pet. 477 00:21:52,133 --> 00:21:57,303 ♪♪ 478 00:21:57,333 --> 00:22:00,223 Roy always knew each animal -- 479 00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:04,030 who he was, like, what they liked, what they didn't like. 480 00:22:04,066 --> 00:22:06,466 You could certainly watch just the friendly 481 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,020 tactile relationship, the touching. 482 00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:15,300 In the video that they show, he's even riding the tiger. 483 00:22:15,333 --> 00:22:17,273 Smith: That was how it was promoted. 484 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,050 These were friends. 485 00:22:19,083 --> 00:22:21,373 These weren't animals that were wild and could kill 486 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,300 and you had to lock in a cage. 487 00:22:23,333 --> 00:22:26,223 These were pals -- cuddly. 488 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:29,300 Bennett: He clearly loved his animals, 489 00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:32,183 maybe even more than he loved people. 490 00:22:32,216 --> 00:22:33,246 Tapert: I said, "Come on. 491 00:22:33,283 --> 00:22:36,003 You tell me, Roy, why you really, really, 492 00:22:36,033 --> 00:22:39,303 really have this rapport with animals." 493 00:22:39,333 --> 00:22:43,033 And he unspilled his story for me as a -- 494 00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:48,126 in his childhood, which was horrific. 495 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:50,316 Let's get a little history. You're both from Germany. 496 00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:52,170 How did this come about, Roy? 497 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,350 How did you two meet? 498 00:22:54,383 --> 00:22:56,403 Well, we met on an ocean liner. 499 00:22:56,433 --> 00:22:58,483 I run away from home as I was -- 500 00:22:59,016 --> 00:23:01,126 he loves it -- as I was a young boy. 501 00:23:01,166 --> 00:23:02,476 Where was home? And -- 502 00:23:03,016 --> 00:23:04,466 North Germany. Bremerhaven. 503 00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:11,296 Both of their fathers were sent by Hitler's Army 504 00:23:11,333 --> 00:23:15,453 to fight on the Russian front, which was brutal, 505 00:23:15,483 --> 00:23:19,003 and they both came back mentally unwell. 506 00:23:21,016 --> 00:23:26,116 I guess today, we would call it Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. 507 00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:30,450 Siegfried really drowned himself in -- in magic. 508 00:23:30,483 --> 00:23:32,233 Roy had a special relationship with -- 509 00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:34,426 with animals right from the beginning. 510 00:23:34,466 --> 00:23:38,176 His first big cat was a cheetah named Chico 511 00:23:38,216 --> 00:23:41,466 taken from a German zoo. 512 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,370 And on the ship, I met Siegfried. 513 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,020 He did a magic act. 514 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:49,200 And one day, Roy saw me there -- was also a steward -- 515 00:23:49,233 --> 00:23:52,453 and he saw when I pulled the rabbit out of the hat 516 00:23:52,483 --> 00:23:56,403 and vanished birds and so on -- swallowed razor blades. 517 00:23:56,433 --> 00:23:59,253 And he said, "Well, if you can do that with a -- 518 00:23:59,283 --> 00:24:02,133 a rabbit, could you do that with a cheetah?" 519 00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:04,296 And I didn't know he had a pet cheetah. 520 00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:06,173 So that's our little story in the -- 521 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,300 Stop right there. Yes. [ Laughs ] 522 00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:10,133 What -- What were you doing with a pet cheetah? 523 00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:11,376 I know. Most people don't have that. 524 00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:14,376 It sounds very unlogical, but it was very logical for me. 525 00:24:14,416 --> 00:24:16,116 I was, as a child -- 526 00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:20,130 I was not very good in communicating with people 527 00:24:20,166 --> 00:24:22,176 because we came from Germany after the war, 528 00:24:22,216 --> 00:24:26,466 so we didn't had a whole lot, and I trusted more in my animals 529 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,300 than I trusted in people, and -- 530 00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:30,403 It's still true? 531 00:24:30,433 --> 00:24:32,033 It's still true. 532 00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:34,176 You trust -- More, actually. Actually more. 533 00:24:34,216 --> 00:24:35,376 It's true. Animals are my passion. 534 00:24:35,416 --> 00:24:39,476 So -- and magic became my life. 535 00:24:40,016 --> 00:24:42,026 Tapert: Two guys get there to Las Vegas 536 00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:44,376 with just a magic act and an animal. 537 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:46,146 They saw the writing on the wall. 538 00:24:46,183 --> 00:24:48,153 They -- They always knew, 539 00:24:48,183 --> 00:24:49,473 "How do we make ourselves better? 540 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,170 How do we make ourselves different?" 541 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,200 You have 24 tigers, eight lions. 542 00:24:54,233 --> 00:24:55,453 They vanish and they reappear. 543 00:24:55,483 --> 00:24:58,183 So does an Arabian horse and an elephant. 544 00:24:58,216 --> 00:24:59,216 Right. 545 00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:01,100 You yourselves appear and disappear, right? 546 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:03,033 Of course. When the curtain opens up, 547 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:06,016 they have to feel like this is something special. 548 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:09,170 You weren't just seeing two guys doing a magic act. 549 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,430 You were watching a production with dozens of cast members, 550 00:25:12,466 --> 00:25:15,316 with a story line, with an evil queen, 551 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:18,030 with these amazing white tigers and lions, 552 00:25:18,066 --> 00:25:22,166 and it became iconic very, very quickly. 553 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,030 King: "Forbes" magazine reports Siegfried & Roy 554 00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:28,316 the highest-paid entertainers in Las Vegas history, 555 00:25:28,350 --> 00:25:30,330 and they have an estimated net worth 556 00:25:30,366 --> 00:25:32,366 of more than $100 million. 557 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280 This is a very lucrative business entity. 558 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:38,066 At the end of the day, Siegfried and Roy 559 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,050 made millions of dollars for the Las Vegas Strip, 560 00:25:40,083 --> 00:25:42,133 and part of their show -- the large part -- 561 00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:45,196 were these big cats. [ Tiger growls ] 562 00:25:45,233 --> 00:25:47,173 I've actually been to their home, 563 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,220 at jungle palace in Las Vegas, 564 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:52,100 and seen the lions and tigers there. 565 00:25:52,133 --> 00:25:55,273 They were almost like house pets in a way, 566 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,430 and I think that that carried over to the show. 567 00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:02,446 There was just a -- a real love there. 568 00:26:02,483 --> 00:26:04,223 When they are conceived, I am there, 569 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:05,400 when I meditate with them 570 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:08,073 and I heard the little ones's first time kicking, 571 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,020 and when they are born, I'm there. 572 00:26:10,050 --> 00:26:12,350 When they open their eyes, I'm the first one they see. 573 00:26:12,383 --> 00:26:15,423 When they are listening, I'm the first voice they hear. 574 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:17,170 [ Cub mews ] 575 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,000 He hated the word "trainer" because it reeked of the circus. 576 00:26:21,033 --> 00:26:24,223 A trainer -- a lion trainer, a lion tamer -- 577 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:27,380 he hated any connotation to that. 578 00:26:27,416 --> 00:26:29,096 I shudder to think what would happen 579 00:26:29,133 --> 00:26:31,223 if I had used that word -- or tamer. 580 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:35,470 You know, he would have probably thrown me out right on my rear. 581 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Bennett: Siegfried focused on the magic part, 582 00:26:38,033 --> 00:26:39,353 not so much on the animals. 583 00:26:39,383 --> 00:26:43,153 That wasn't his thing, but very much was Roy's. 584 00:26:43,183 --> 00:26:46,173 Fischbacher: He has a different way with the animals. 585 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,050 His lifestyle -- He's completely into it, 586 00:26:49,083 --> 00:26:52,283 but for me, it was always the spiritual thinking of it, and -- 587 00:26:52,316 --> 00:26:54,176 King: He's more attached to the animals than you. 588 00:26:54,216 --> 00:26:55,246 Oh, yeah. 589 00:26:55,283 --> 00:26:57,333 For me, it -- it was always a challenge. 590 00:26:57,366 --> 00:27:01,096 But now, I am also attached to it very much, of course, 591 00:27:01,133 --> 00:27:04,373 and they teached me the idea that -- 592 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280 I think they made a better person out of me. 593 00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:13,066 They were the bread and butter of their business operation. 594 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,370 Jillette: I think the animals were bonding with him, 595 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,320 and he really did have a relationship with them 596 00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:20,130 in a very real way. 597 00:27:20,166 --> 00:27:24,316 And that having been said, it-- it's also crazy dangerous. 598 00:27:24,350 --> 00:27:28,200 [ Indistinct chatter, tiger growling ] 599 00:27:28,233 --> 00:27:30,333 Friess: All over the Mirage hotel, 600 00:27:30,366 --> 00:27:35,326 there were videos playing ad nauseam on little TVs. 601 00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:43,296 The entire image of this show rested on the idea that, 602 00:27:43,333 --> 00:27:47,473 yes, these are predators, but they have been tamed. 603 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,380 They're just choosing not to attack people 604 00:27:51,416 --> 00:27:55,416 because they're so well-loved by these odd showmen 605 00:27:55,450 --> 00:27:59,000 who want you to see what they can do with them. 606 00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:03,323 Bennett: I don't want to say there was a cover-up. 607 00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:05,020 That makes it sound very sinister. 608 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:08,120 But there was certainly an effort to make sure 609 00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:13,330 that what happened to Roy Horn was kept within the family. 610 00:28:20,283 --> 00:28:23,023 Goldman: I can't put my finger on that exact timing 611 00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:25,100 when this theory started to emerge -- 612 00:28:25,133 --> 00:28:29,253 that the tiger, in fact, was trying to help Roy Horn, 613 00:28:29,283 --> 00:28:32,323 who was having a stroke. 614 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:34,220 I remember watching this interview they did -- 615 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:36,470 this exclusive with Maria Shriver. 616 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,450 Fischbacher: It's bitter and it's sweet. 617 00:28:39,483 --> 00:28:44,233 Now I know life is a gift. 618 00:28:44,266 --> 00:28:45,466 There you go. 619 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Look at you! That's great! 620 00:28:48,116 --> 00:28:49,396 Alright! You're doing it! 621 00:28:49,433 --> 00:28:52,173 If I wouldn't see it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it. 622 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Hallelujah. Hallelujah, yes! 623 00:28:54,116 --> 00:28:56,216 Left. You're doing it, Roy! 624 00:28:59,050 --> 00:29:03,470 Goldman: And, basically, she allows them to walk through this narrative 625 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280 which perpetuates this idea that Montecore was, 626 00:29:06,316 --> 00:29:08,416 like, trying to save his life. 627 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,280 I have high blood pressure. 628 00:29:17,316 --> 00:29:19,246 It was the stroke. 629 00:29:19,283 --> 00:29:21,453 So you believe you had a stroke. You fell -- 630 00:29:21,483 --> 00:29:23,303 Yes, correct. Absolutely. 631 00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:26,153 I saw exactly what happened. 632 00:29:26,183 --> 00:29:31,033 Roy tumbled, and Montecore, right away -- 633 00:29:31,066 --> 00:29:35,076 he realized and I realize he is in trouble. 634 00:29:35,116 --> 00:29:38,296 He needs some help, and he went out, and that's what we did. 635 00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:40,253 You believe that Montecore realized 636 00:29:40,283 --> 00:29:42,003 you were in trouble... Yes. 637 00:29:42,033 --> 00:29:45,423 ...and just picked you up and took you offstage for help. 638 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,070 Yeah, that's how wonderful they are. 639 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,350 The story came that -- that Roy had suffered a stroke 640 00:29:51,383 --> 00:29:56,123 that made him fall onstage and have Montecore drag him off. 641 00:29:56,150 --> 00:29:59,220 That was gonna be the spin, if you will. 642 00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:01,420 What we didn't know at the time was whether that was true, 643 00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:06,050 and to be fair, it seems believable in a way. 644 00:30:06,083 --> 00:30:08,273 If you knew Roy, if you knew how much he cared 645 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,400 for his animals and vice versa, 646 00:30:10,433 --> 00:30:12,353 it almost -- for a second or two, 647 00:30:12,383 --> 00:30:15,283 it's the story you wanted to believe. 648 00:30:15,316 --> 00:30:18,316 Goldman: Did Montecore get Emergency Medical Technician training? 649 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,220 Montecore is an EMT? 650 00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:24,230 We wanted to think that there was a protective moment 651 00:30:24,266 --> 00:30:27,046 with Montecore seeing his owner, 652 00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:30,103 his dad, his caretaker in trouble 653 00:30:30,133 --> 00:30:33,033 and, therefore, help him in some way. 654 00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:35,226 Even to Nancy O'Dell and "Entertainment Tonight," 655 00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:37,126 they went so far as to say that the tiger 656 00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:39,226 was relieving some sort of pressure 657 00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:41,396 because Roy was having a medical incident. 658 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,270 You're saying the doctor is saying 659 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,170 that had Montecore not relieved the pressure, 660 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,380 you would not have lived? 661 00:30:59,366 --> 00:31:02,126 Goldman: Who taught the tiger how to staunch blood? 662 00:31:02,166 --> 00:31:04,466 Oh, and by the way, the tiger's the one who did it. 663 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,200 It doesn't -- It doesn't make any -- 664 00:31:06,233 --> 00:31:08,453 It's comp-- It doesn't make any sense. 665 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400 Siegfried said this to me personally -- 666 00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:14,153 that they believe that the tiger sensed 667 00:31:14,183 --> 00:31:17,423 that Roy had high blood pressure and was biting his neck 668 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,320 to alleviate the high blood pressure. 669 00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:26,220 Now, I have hypertension, and no doctor's ever suggested 670 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,050 me being bit in the neck by a tiger to help me, 671 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,273 and they've also never suggested bloodletting. 672 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:34,200 I mean, it doesn't seem like high blood pressure 673 00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:35,483 is too much blood. 674 00:31:36,016 --> 00:31:37,276 But how would a tiger know that? 675 00:31:37,316 --> 00:31:43,476 This massive animal was, in some way, trying to save Roy Horn? 676 00:31:44,016 --> 00:31:46,426 This predator that is programmed, 677 00:31:46,466 --> 00:31:50,266 in its own DNA, to eat warm flesh? 678 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:53,220 Somehow, this tiger, Montecore, 679 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:57,020 had been trained to suppress its instincts? 680 00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:59,230 [ Growls ] 681 00:31:59,266 --> 00:32:01,316 [ Roars ] 682 00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:05,320 Vegas kind of closed in on itself to protect its own. 683 00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:08,220 Moss: You hear things from different reporters -- 684 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:11,370 that maybe someone might have been behind the scenes 685 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,170 telling people to call it an attack, 686 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,430 or call it an accident -- those two terms. 687 00:32:16,466 --> 00:32:18,416 "Use this one instead of that one." 688 00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:21,120 Personally, no one had ever said that to me. 689 00:32:21,150 --> 00:32:25,280 I realize that Roy, I think -- and Siegfried, too -- 690 00:32:25,316 --> 00:32:27,326 would take exception to me using the word "attack". 691 00:32:27,366 --> 00:32:30,296 But I think that's -- that's the way I see it. 692 00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:33,123 I think they would prefer the word "accident," perhaps. 693 00:32:33,150 --> 00:32:35,170 The only thing that was ever gonna answer 694 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,480 any of these questions about what happened 695 00:32:37,016 --> 00:32:39,296 that night was the tape, and was anyone gonna see that? 696 00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:41,433 CNN has learned the Agriculture Department 697 00:32:41,466 --> 00:32:44,146 is investigating the Siegfried & Roy show 698 00:32:44,183 --> 00:32:47,153 for possible violations of the Animal Welfare Act. 699 00:32:47,183 --> 00:32:49,033 There may be more to the attack 700 00:32:49,066 --> 00:32:52,096 than what was played out before a horrified audience. 701 00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:55,033 Goldman: The United States Department of Agriculture basically 702 00:32:55,066 --> 00:32:58,266 has an enforcement arm that deals with exotic animals, 703 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,430 and they provide the license for people 704 00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:03,476 who have these exotic exhibits with these animals. 705 00:33:04,016 --> 00:33:07,276 I was a Senior Investigator with USDA, 706 00:33:07,316 --> 00:33:12,146 and I got called to investigate the attack with Roy Horn. 707 00:33:12,183 --> 00:33:14,333 The U.S. Agriculture Department is investigating. 708 00:33:14,366 --> 00:33:16,026 That's normal in this kind of case. 709 00:33:16,066 --> 00:33:18,076 They had four inspections in the last three years. 710 00:33:18,116 --> 00:33:20,266 No problems were ever cited, right? 711 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,200 Stage set-up was inspected. 712 00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:27,283 Years ago, one of the inspectors wrote up "no barrier," 713 00:33:27,316 --> 00:33:29,116 and nothing ever happened. 714 00:33:29,150 --> 00:33:32,020 I was concerned that one of the tigers or lions 715 00:33:32,050 --> 00:33:34,270 could jump down in the crowd, 716 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,320 but at the time, it was never even called up to -- 717 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:40,200 for us to investigate the violation. 718 00:33:40,233 --> 00:33:44,453 And the collar that was around Montecore's neck 719 00:33:44,483 --> 00:33:46,323 looked like a dog collar, 720 00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:49,280 and it's hard to control a dog sometime. 721 00:33:49,316 --> 00:33:53,366 I'm sure it'd be hard to control a large tiger. 722 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,370 I think with no one doing anything about this, 723 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,480 they were playing with people's lives, 724 00:34:00,016 --> 00:34:04,246 and if you don't have a problem right now, why worry about it? 725 00:34:04,283 --> 00:34:06,253 Wait till the problem happens. 726 00:34:06,283 --> 00:34:08,383 You've never had a problem with any authorities, 727 00:34:08,416 --> 00:34:10,016 any questions about it? 728 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,450 Never, never, and we've always cooperated 729 00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:13,303 with all of the regulatory agencies. 730 00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,003 And -- And we've been the example. 731 00:34:15,033 --> 00:34:17,403 Siegfried and Roy are held in -- in that light, you know? 732 00:34:17,433 --> 00:34:19,453 You want to live up to their standard. 733 00:34:19,483 --> 00:34:22,073 I wonder sometimes about how differently this story 734 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:26,280 would've played out today, because among other things, 735 00:34:26,316 --> 00:34:29,066 those 1,500 people in the audience 736 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,300 all would've had their cellphones out, 737 00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:35,103 and there would have been a flood of video on the Internet 738 00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:37,203 showing exactly what happened. 739 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:40,273 During the investigation, we had several theories. 740 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:44,450 What caused the tiger to attack Roy? 741 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:47,133 I realized that they did film 742 00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:50,326 all of the Siegfried & Roy performances. 743 00:34:50,366 --> 00:34:53,416 Therefore, they had videoed the attack. 744 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:56,480 And, remember, the investigators had a real hard time 745 00:34:57,016 --> 00:34:59,266 getting access to the official video. 746 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,130 I don't think anyone was surprised 747 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:04,276 that the USDA had trouble getting a copy of the tape. 748 00:35:04,316 --> 00:35:06,026 I certainly wasn't. 749 00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:07,166 It's the Sin City. 750 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,120 It's a town that was heavily involved 751 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:11,220 in the Mafia and mobsters for many years. 752 00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:15,250 It has a side to it that doesn't necessarily want 753 00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:17,053 to expose all of its secrets. 754 00:35:17,083 --> 00:35:18,383 Goldman: And I thought, "You know what? 755 00:35:18,416 --> 00:35:20,246 I'm gonna get the videotape of this thing." 756 00:35:20,283 --> 00:35:24,053 I'm digging in because now I'm just annoyed by people who, 757 00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:26,173 you know, just can't appreciate actually what happened. 758 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,350 For me, getting the video 759 00:35:27,383 --> 00:35:30,433 was the holy grail of this investigation. 760 00:35:36,366 --> 00:35:39,396 Bennett: I'm not saying anything criminal occurred, 761 00:35:39,433 --> 00:35:42,253 but I don't think there was anyone 762 00:35:42,283 --> 00:35:46,323 who was going to volunteer 763 00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:50,220 to reveal anything that Siegfried and Roy 764 00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:53,250 or that their management didn't want to be revealed. 765 00:35:53,283 --> 00:35:56,253 Neal: I went to Siegfried and Roy's people -- 766 00:35:56,283 --> 00:35:59,283 their production people, their managers -- 767 00:35:59,316 --> 00:36:03,216 and everybody acted like they didn't have the video. 768 00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:06,430 So, me being a little stubborn, I figured that somebody had it. 769 00:36:06,466 --> 00:36:10,076 So I contacted our attorneys in Washington 770 00:36:10,116 --> 00:36:13,346 and had subpoenas issued to Siegfried & Roy, 771 00:36:13,383 --> 00:36:18,323 Feld Productions, Siegfried and Roy's manager, and the Mirage. 772 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:22,400 I don't think a subpoena anywhere could shake the bonds 773 00:36:22,433 --> 00:36:25,453 of that culture and that community. 774 00:36:28,016 --> 00:36:29,426 Goldman: Senator Harry Reid -- 775 00:36:29,466 --> 00:36:32,426 he was a long-time Democratic senator of Nevada, 776 00:36:32,466 --> 00:36:36,426 and these were his constituents -- Roy Horn and Siegfried. 777 00:36:36,466 --> 00:36:42,246 And he had decided that he was gonna block efforts from me, 778 00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:44,383 "The Associated Press," from getting the video. 779 00:36:44,416 --> 00:36:50,426 "The AP" would go on to report that Harry Reid sent a letter 780 00:36:50,466 --> 00:36:57,026 to the USDA asking them not to make this video available. 781 00:36:57,066 --> 00:36:59,996 People would argue, "Ah, it's a violation of privacy." 782 00:37:00,033 --> 00:37:02,133 But because Steve Wynn and others had floated 783 00:37:02,166 --> 00:37:04,346 these cockamamie conspiracy theories, 784 00:37:04,383 --> 00:37:06,473 it was in the public's interest to see this video 785 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,280 and to see it actually -- what had really happened. 786 00:37:09,316 --> 00:37:12,396 During my career with USDA as an investigator, 787 00:37:12,433 --> 00:37:16,253 I had never had a senator or a congressman interfere 788 00:37:16,283 --> 00:37:18,373 in any of my investigations up 789 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,250 until the Siegfried & Roy investigation, 790 00:37:21,283 --> 00:37:25,023 and as far as my knowledge, it has never happened again. 791 00:37:25,050 --> 00:37:27,120 So, Harry Reid was a power player -- 792 00:37:27,150 --> 00:37:29,100 very good friends with Siegfried and Roy -- 793 00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:30,383 and he actually issued a statement 794 00:37:30,416 --> 00:37:35,316 saying that he would protect Roy on behalf of Roy's privacy. 795 00:37:37,316 --> 00:37:41,316 When the report came out that Harry Reid had gotten involved, 796 00:37:41,350 --> 00:37:43,420 it was another one of the moments in the story 797 00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:46,050 where, at first, you're like, "Really?" 798 00:37:46,083 --> 00:37:48,323 And then you're like, "Of course." 799 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:51,300 Because this is Vegas and this was Nevada. 800 00:37:51,333 --> 00:37:54,453 Everybody's power and money 801 00:37:54,483 --> 00:37:58,153 had propped up each other over all those years. 802 00:37:58,183 --> 00:38:00,223 It is extraordinary. 803 00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:03,470 A copy of that video would be embarrassing 804 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,320 because it would show what really happened. 805 00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:08,350 It would be embarrassing because it would show 806 00:38:08,383 --> 00:38:11,303 Siegfried and Roy in their worst moment. 807 00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:15,183 Bennett: If it highlights Montecore in a bad way 808 00:38:15,216 --> 00:38:17,246 or showcases the animal 809 00:38:17,283 --> 00:38:19,333 in a way that makes it look like a predator 810 00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:21,476 or like it was attacking, 811 00:38:22,016 --> 00:38:24,166 I can't imagine that that is something 812 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,000 they would ever want to reveal or show. 813 00:38:31,083 --> 00:38:32,373 There was some compromise reached, right? 814 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,350 MGM, I think, allowed 815 00:38:34,383 --> 00:38:37,133 the USDA investigators to look at the video, 816 00:38:37,166 --> 00:38:39,316 but they couldn't take possession of it. 817 00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:41,370 It was a way to keep "The Associated Press" 818 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,470 from getting its hands on this video, 819 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,220 'cause if I had gotten this video, I would have -- 820 00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:47,020 I would have made it public. 821 00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:50,280 We had to make appointments, and we had to do it behind 822 00:38:50,316 --> 00:38:53,266 closed, locked doors to observe the video. 823 00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:56,100 Friess: One of the things that I find most odious 824 00:38:56,133 --> 00:39:01,253 about the whole thing is that by the time the USDA was trying 825 00:39:01,283 --> 00:39:06,003 to do a legitimate investigation into a serious incident 826 00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:09,373 that could have had catastrophic consequences 827 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,430 for members of the public -- 828 00:39:11,466 --> 00:39:14,316 by that time, the show was closed. 829 00:39:14,350 --> 00:39:16,330 The marquee was changed. 830 00:39:16,366 --> 00:39:21,996 Nobody was talking about some big return of Siegfried & Roy. 831 00:39:22,033 --> 00:39:24,183 They were not coming back. 832 00:39:24,216 --> 00:39:29,176 So, what were they protecting in trying to avoid 833 00:39:29,216 --> 00:39:32,346 the actual story being made public? 834 00:39:35,116 --> 00:39:37,116 Goldman: These are alternative facts. 835 00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:40,000 It's a distortion of what really happened, 836 00:39:40,033 --> 00:39:42,183 and it undermines the truth. 837 00:39:42,216 --> 00:39:43,996 I couldn't begin to understand 838 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:46,273 why they would continue to perpetuate this myth. 839 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:49,180 It took 15 years for one of the animal trainers 840 00:39:49,216 --> 00:39:52,066 there that night to come forward and sort of break 841 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,020 that story line that Siegfried and Roy 842 00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:56,450 and their team had been putting out. 843 00:39:56,483 --> 00:40:00,253 Neal: From seeing Chris Lawrence's interview on "Inside Edition"... 844 00:40:00,283 --> 00:40:02,283 I won't call them liars. 845 00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:04,016 I'll just tell my truth. 846 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:06,380 ...it appears that his conclusion is the same 847 00:40:06,416 --> 00:40:10,196 as what we found during our investigation. 848 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:13,383 Roy made a crucial mistake, and there was just no going back. 849 00:40:13,416 --> 00:40:16,376 These animals had done something very dangerous in the past. 850 00:40:16,416 --> 00:40:18,466 This wasn't a one-off event that happened. 851 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,380 There were other incidents. 852 00:40:20,416 --> 00:40:23,996 Woman: Roy was holding a leash, and the leash was let go. 853 00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:25,383 And the next thing they know it, 854 00:40:25,416 --> 00:40:29,276 the tiger had jumped on my dad's back and bit his neck. 855 00:40:29,316 --> 00:40:34,046 My son was crying and said, "Mama, am I gonna die?" 856 00:40:34,083 --> 00:40:36,083 It went, "Blaow!" [ Roars ] 857 00:40:36,116 --> 00:40:38,366 I mean, its face was just drenched in my blood. 858 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,300 This story could have been a national news story. 859 00:40:41,333 --> 00:40:44,473 I think Siegfried and Roy often got a very soft press. 860 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,100 I would like them to tell the truth -- Siegfried and Roy. 861 00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:51,083 It's not all magical. 862 00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:52,296 It's not. 863 00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:55,183 A wild animal is a wild animal. 864 00:40:55,216 --> 00:40:58,446 From what I saw of the video, in my opinion, 865 00:40:58,483 --> 00:41:01,083 Montecore didn't want to be there. 866 00:41:01,116 --> 00:41:03,296 Salmoni: Tigers will kill you. They don't care. 867 00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:05,373 They'll kiss you and then they'll kill you. 868 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,230 [ Tiger growls, roars ] 869 00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:11,446 We reached out numerous times to Siegfried and Roy, 870 00:41:11,483 --> 00:41:14,183 their former manager, Bernie Yuman, Steve Wynn, 871 00:41:14,216 --> 00:41:16,246 Feld Entertainment, and MGM Resorts. 872 00:41:16,283 --> 00:41:18,023 They all declined to comment. 873 00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:22,020 And as for Senator Harry Reid, he sent us this statement. 874 00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:24,200 "The arrangement I made with the USDA 875 00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:26,403 was that they could look at the video, but not keep it, 876 00:41:26,433 --> 00:41:28,353 and that's what they did." 877 00:41:28,383 --> 00:41:31,433 In March 2019, a former employee -- 878 00:41:31,466 --> 00:41:33,416 a tiger trainer named Chris Lawrence -- 879 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:36,030 went public and challenged their story 880 00:41:36,066 --> 00:41:38,446 that Montecore sensed Roy Horn was in medical distress 881 00:41:38,483 --> 00:41:40,473 and carried him offstage for help. 882 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,320 The whistle-blower re-ignited interest in the case, 883 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:45,430 and as we investigated his claims, 884 00:41:45,466 --> 00:41:50,066 we unearthed some secrets that have remained buried for years. 885 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:55,000 Did the master illusionists make previous maulings disappear? 886 00:41:55,033 --> 00:41:58,173 That in our next hour of "How It Really Happened." 887 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,070 Thanks for watching. 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