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♪♪
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There was a train that was
flying past,
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and it was taking me to life,
and I just had to jump on it
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and discover
what was at the end.
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Yeah, I'm young. You know,
I can't afford to be doing
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anything but have fun, you know?
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-Yeah.
-I think.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Hi, everyone.
I'm Hill Harper.
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Heath Ledger -- in less than
a decade in Hollywood,
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the ruggedly handsome, intensely
charismatic Australian actor
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had become a household name.
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With critical acclaim
for "Brokeback Mountain"
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and a blockbuster role
as the Joker on the horizon,
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Heath Ledger was
seemingly unstoppable.
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Then tragedy.
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On a cold January afternoon
in 2008,
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the 28-year-old was found dead
in a New York City apartment.
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As the world mourned the loss
of a beloved star,
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speculation and suspicion
about his death began to mount.
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He was an immensely talented
actor who died far too young.
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What really happened?
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[ Indistinct chatter ]
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Ledger: I'm not looking to go
anywhere, to tell you the truth.
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I don't expect to go anywhere.
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You know, I just
take it day by day,
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script by script.
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That's my story.
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♪♪
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Roth: It was January 2008.
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Things were looking bleak
in the economy.
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[ Bell dinging ]
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And I was positioned
near Times Square
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in front of the NASDAQ
stock market with our live truck
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to do live reports
on a falling stock market.
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We're talking about a huge
sell-off in worldwide markets.
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Roth: And I looked down at what
was, I think, my Blackberry,
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and I saw that Heath Ledger
had just died.
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I remember going, "Oh, my God."
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The news came as a shock.
Actor Heath Ledger found dead.
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I knew he was a big star
and that he had been nominated
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for "Brokeback Mountain".
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Heath Ledger in
"Brokeback Mountain".
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I knew that "The Dark Knight"
film was going to be huge,
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and I called
the New York Bureau
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and said,
"I'm going to go down there."
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We were just in our offices
getting ready
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for another day of
entertainment news coverage
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when this news breaks.
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I remember hustling into a car
to get downtown to Soho
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right outside of
Heath Ledger's building.
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Here in New York, we're down
in Soho on Broome Street.
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And the crowds had been
building through the afternoon
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as word started to get around.
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I remember the people who showed
up outside his Soho loft,
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just this massive crowd,
chaotic scene.
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Roth: It was dark, cold,
and already
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there was a lot of buzz
on the streets.
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There were cameramen,
still cameras running around.
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-Just push back.
-Let's go!
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Man: Clear the sidewalk.
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Roth: The police had formed
of this walkway
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walking right from the apartment
into what I believe
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was the medical examiner's van.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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You line up, and the police
push people back,
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and you hear every second
someone to your right
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walking down the street saying,
"Hey, excuse me.
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What happened?"
And another person on your left,
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"Hey, do you know
what's going on here?"
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Reporter: What do you think
of the scene here?
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I actually just wanted to know
what was going on.
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It's pretty crazy.
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Hammer: And when you would hear
somebody tell them,
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"That's where
Heath Ledger lives,
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but they just
found him dead,"
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there was a moment of pause
pretty much in everybody's face
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because I can't say anybody
would have imagined this
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or have seen this coming.
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It's unbelievable.
I can't believe it.
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He was so young and so vibrant.
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And then the body
was brought out.
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[ Camera shutters clicking ]
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I think it was rather silent,
as usual,
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except for the loud buzzing,
clicking of still cameras.
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Velez-Mitchell: This was one of
the rare instances
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where you actually saw
a star's body in a black bag
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being removed
from the scene in a stretcher.
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It was a tragedy.
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Cooper: There are the rumors
and speculation,
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the talk of whether illicit
drugs may have been involved.
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Yammanee: The news of Heath's
death was quite hard-hitting.
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Out of everyone we knew, he was
the one that seemed invincible.
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He was the one that was
so full of life.
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He'd be the last person
I would've expected
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to be gone so young.
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Heath was about living and life.
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I'm always learning
my performance as I as a person,
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it's evolving and maturing,
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and I just want
to continue to do that.
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The "Brokeback Mountain" actor
was found dead in his apartment
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in downtown Manhattan today.
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He had just completed
the new Batman movie
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in which he plays the Joker.
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Ledger was just 28 years old
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and leaves behind
a 2-year-old daughter.
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When news of his death hit, it
just didn't make too much sense.
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And that just adds to the
tragic nature of this story.
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Reporter: Relatives and friends
have been consoling his family
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at their home in Perth.
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Heath spent his Christmas there
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in what he described
as his best holiday ever.
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Outside the home of his
former fiancée Michelle Williams
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and his 2-year-old
daughter Matilda,
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signs of happier times.
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Williams has told friends
she's devastated,
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that words cannot describe
how she's feeling.
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My very last memory of him
is at this party we were at,
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and he was about
to leave for Prague,
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and, you know, he said,
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"When I get back,
we're going to get together."
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You know, he kind of gave me
that smile
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and walked out the door,
and that was it.
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That was the last time.
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The body was found
about four hours ago here.
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That is what we are being told.
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People were saying,
"Was it suicide?
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Was it a drug overdose?
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What was going on?"
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How did this happen?
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Why did this happen?
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People wanted answers.
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In the death of actor
Heath Ledger --
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The death of Heath Ledger --
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On so many different levels
during his short life --
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Banfield: This was a story that
transcended just general news.
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There was a lot
of mystery involved.
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One of the pieces of that
mystery that still hasn't been
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figured out is what the heck
did Mary-Kate Olsen have to do
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with this entire situation?
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Suddenly, if you weren't
interested in the story before,
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now you are.
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Roberts: Lots of questions this
morning surrounding
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the death of actor Heath Ledger.
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Hammer: There was obviously
rampant speculation
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that night, that day that
Heath died, of what happened.
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Roth: Ledger's body
was discovered
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at the foot of the bed.
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Cause of death is
still to be determined.
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No.
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I can't say that for certain.
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Why did Heath Ledger die?
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What was really going on
in that apartment?
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Just moments ago, Ledger's
father spoke to reporters
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in Perth, Australia,
where Ledger is from.
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Heath has touched so many people
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on so many different levels
during his short life,
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but few had the pleasure
of truly knowing him.
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He was a down-to-earth,
generous, kind-hearted,
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life-loving,
unselfish individual
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who was extremely
inspirational to many.
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He was very close to his family,
and they were devastated.
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It was heartbreaking.
They lost their boy.
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Ledger: I've chosen to stay out
of the whole,
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you know,
dazzlement of Hollywood.
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I am -- you know,
I have my own life.
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I have my own friends,
and, I don't know.
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I keep grounded through that,
especially my friends back home
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here in Australia,
my family back here.
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They're very rich,
and they're strong,
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and I love them, and I couldn't
have done it without them
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and can't do it without them.
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Heath Ledger was born
in Perth, Australia,
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and he was the only son
of a race car driver/engineer,
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that was his dad, and his
mother was a French teacher.
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And he was into skateboarding
and wind surfing.
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Ledger: I grew up surfing.
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When I go home to Australia,
I surf as much as possible.
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He didn't really start acting
or catch the acting bug
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until he was in grammar school
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and he was in a production
of "Peter Pan."
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Heath and I met
at Gilford Grammar School.
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We were 13.
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I just remember this vibrant,
jovial, young boy
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with a massive cheeky grin.
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That's my first memory of Heath.
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Yeah, he never really changed.
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Ledger: I haven't really done
that much theater.
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I mean, I did
when I was younger,
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but I haven't for a long time,
for about seven years.
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Yammanee: One of my favorite
times with Heath was back stage.
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The theater, acting, that was
where we discovered ourselves
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and became who we were.
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Both of us were so excited
to move from Gilford
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and go into the next chapter.
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It was one of those moments
where you look into the future
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and everything looks bright.
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Heath Ledger's beginnings were
really in Australia in the '90s,
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and it wasn't until he signed on
to a show in America
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called "Roar" that he really
became part of the scene here.
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I don't want to forget
what you look like.
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I'll be here tomorrow.
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Koslow: We got a 13-episode
commitment for a Fox summer show
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and we decided
to do it in Australia.
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An Australian casting director
sent us an audition tape
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with about a dozen
Australian actors, young guys,
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and Heath just
jumped off the tape.
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You can't ever
go back there.
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I don't want to.
I want to be with you.
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I know a place where
you're safe for the night.
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Some young talent comes
with this light around them.
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I've seen it before,
and he had that light.
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We were shooting it at the
small resort town in Queensland,
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so everybody was on location.
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I remember I wandered into
a little restaurant one night,
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and I saw Heath
and his dad having dinner,
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and they invited me
over to the table.
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And it turned out it was
Heath's 18th birthday,
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and his father, obviously,
was very proud of him
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and a little bit astonished
that his son was suddenly
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the star of an American
television series.
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Acting, well, for me, at least,
it's all about harnessing
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the power of belief, you know,
and I think once you do that,
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you can take yourself
kind of anywhere, really.
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Anderson:
I think I became aware of Heath
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when most girls
or young women did,
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when he did
"10 Things I Hate About You"
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with Julia Styles.
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-How are you doing?
-Sweating like a pig, actually.
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And yourself?
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Now there's a way to get
a guy's attention, huh?
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"10 Things I Hate About You"
is what really got him noticed.
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Anderson: He was good.
He was handsome.
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He was charming.
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I think that's when I knew,
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"Hey, here's this guy
from Australia,
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and he's really going
to make his mark."
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Your eyes have
a little green in them.
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[ Chuckles ]
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[ Retches ]
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Yammanee: I remember seeing
"A Knight's Tale"
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sitting in the cinema
and listening to all the females
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behind me swooning over him.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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And it was just fun
just to chuckle to myself
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listening to these people
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idolizing this larger-than-life
person on the screen
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knowing that he's such
a down-to-earth guy.
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Koslow: I think perhaps the role
that turned the corner
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for him was "The Patriot."
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I was actually working
with Mark Gordon
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at the time, who produced
"The Patriot",
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and I remember him asking me,
"Do you think he can do it?"
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And I said, "No question."
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You know, it was the most
important year
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of my career, definitely.
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Hammer: "The Patriot" was
a big deal for Heath Ledger.
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This is where he really got
to show his acting chops,
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and that really set
the foundation for
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the bigger roles that he was
about to walk into.
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Reporter: Where can you
go from here?
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I mean, only up, right?
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Um, no, you can go down.
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The thought crossed my mind
that if we hadn't picked him off
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that tape, that kid from Perth,
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who knows,
maybe he'd still be alive.
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Cooper: The search for answers
tonight continues.
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We've learned much more
about what was going on inside
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his New York loft just before
and after his body was found,
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even the link
to Mary-Kate Olsen.
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What is going on here?
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The youngblood from
Perth who is 22
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is already one of
the hottest stars in Hollywood.
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Would you please
welcome actor Heath Ledger?
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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-Whoo.
-Could you believe
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when you drive around
Los Angeles, for example,
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and you see your face up
on a billboard
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or on the back of a bus,
is that weird?
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I get really nervous
with it,
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and I get very
self-conscious of it,
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but I guess I'm learning
to deal with it
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a little better
these days.
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[ Indistinct chatter ]
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Chetry: Actor Heath Ledger
who was found yesterday
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in his New York City apartment.
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Ledger, just 28, had finished
shooting a new Batman sequel
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called "The Dark Knight"
where he played the Joker.
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He also earned an Oscar
nomination for his role
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in "Brokeback Mountain."
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I think what truly hit home
was how somebody
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with so much promise
and so much potential,
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the life could be
snuffed out like that.
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Banfield: One of the first
reports that came out from
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the police was that
sleeping pills had been found
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in or on or around Heath's body
when they discovered him.
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There were --
I don't have an exact number.
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People were saying,
"Was it suicide?
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Was it a drug overdose?
What was going on?"
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I don't deal in gut feelings.
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I can just tell you there's been
no determination
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as to the cause of death, okay?
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Velez-Mitchell: There was
a sense he was a decent guy
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who may have just fallen
into the wrong path
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because of a whole bunch
of stressors.
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Long days, 18-hour days,
and that's it.
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So I've just really been
consumed with the work
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that I've been doing.
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Have you found it
a challenge to be working
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and promoting your films
and be traveling so much?
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Yeah, it is.
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You know, I mean, it's not
killing me, but it's a grind.
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Roberts: He was actually
kind of a quiet fellow.
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I shared a row with him
on a flight
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out to Chicago last summer.
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We chatted a little bit,
and, you know,
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he's a very quiet sort of guy,
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but he liked to choose
challenging roles.
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Norris: I spoke with people that
said Heath Ledger's darkest
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moment during the time that
he knew them was after
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being nominated for
an Academy Award
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for "Brokeback Mountain."
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He got a lot of attention.
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Reporter: Are you prepared
for the onslaught
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of all the Oscar buzz
that it's already receiving?
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Um, no, not really.
I'm not sure how to.
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Woman: The Best Performance By
an Actor in a Leading Role,
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Heath Ledger
in "Brokeback Mountain."
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And this thing grabs hold of us
again in the wrong place
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and the wrong time,
and we're dead.
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Reporter: Getting
a lot of Oscar buzz.
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Uh, sure.
Have you thought about it?
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Uh, obviously, yeah.
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You can't help
but think about it
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when people are
ramming it down your throat.
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Tuchman: He was nominated for
an Oscar for his performance,
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and the woman who played
his wife in the film,
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Michelle Williams, became
his girlfriend in real life.
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Hammer: Heath and Michelle met
on the set of
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"Brokeback Mountain"
back in 2004,
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and they instantly hit it off.
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Their romance was written
like a Hollywood script.
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Anderson: It was said that when
he was really rough on her
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during a scene
that he would apologize
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and wrap her in his embrace
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and, "I'm sorry
I was hard on you today,"
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that sort of thing,
but that's where
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they became extremely close,
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and that's where
they fell in love.
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Ledger: My life changed
certainly from meeting Michelle.
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I have a family,
a beautiful family
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and two beautiful girls
thanks to "Brokeback Mountain."
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So it's extraordinary, the level
in which my life has changed.
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Hammer:
Less than a year later,
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Michelle gave birth
to their daughter, Matilda,
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to whom Heath was
so devoutly dedicated.
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This was now the great love
of his life.
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Reporter:
Congratulations.
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How does it feel
to be a dad?
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Um, very humbling, yes.
Yes.
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I'm very comfortable
in the daddy position.
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Yeah.
Just like that.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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On the red carpet,
Heath was working,
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but not really doing the work
he really liked.
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I don't know.
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I'm not really up
on the whole system.
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And when he was home,
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he loved to carry his daughter
around all the time.
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Cho: They really tried to give
that little girl
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as much of a normal life
as they could.
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I mean, as normal as you could
be for a Hollywood star.
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Banfield: The fame came
to him so quickly,
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the paparazzi, the attention,
the media glare.
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It's a lot of stress
for a young person to handle
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when you're working hard
at the same time.
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Velez-Mitchell: People think
being an actor is easy,
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but when you're an actor who
becomes a star, it is so hard.
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You've got to go out there
and sell yourself.
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Heath Ledger hated it.
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Hammer: So part of deal when you
sign up to be in a movie
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is you sign up to do
the promotion for the movie.
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He didn't love being
in front of the camera
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unless it was
for portraying a role.
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What I love doing
and all of that I do
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is that time
between action and cut.
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That's what I really love,
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and that's what I invest
all my effort
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and all my emotions
and time into.
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Hammer: Howard Bragman was one
of people who was brought in
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to help him be more comfortable
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in preparing for interviews
for "Brokeback Mountain."
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I was retained by Focus Features
to get everybody involved
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in "Brokeback Mountain" singing
from the same hymnal, as we say.
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Heath was one they were
particularly concerned about.
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Heath was never known to be
a good interviewer.
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We're recording right now.
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Bragman: He had no desire to be
more comfortable in the media.
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It was very clear to me
by reputation
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and watching his interviews
that he didn't like it.
402
00:18:28,383 --> 00:18:30,303
It's obviously --
you know --
403
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:32,453
He can't sit still,
the poor guy.
404
00:18:32,483 --> 00:18:37,233
He's kind of anxious and
scratching and jumping around,
405
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would get irritated
if he didn't like the question.
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00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:43,073
That was a quick
eight minutes. Thanks.
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Just kind of everything
you could do wrong,
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he kind of embraced it.
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Anderson: He loved acting.
He loved his craft.
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He wanted to be an actor.
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He did not want
to be a celebrity.
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Man: Look straight
ahead, Heath!
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Heath always had a tenuous
relationship with the paparazzi,
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and who can blame the guy?
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00:19:03,216 --> 00:19:07,366
The paparazzi can be extremely
aggressive and intrusive.
416
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Woman: And over here,
please!
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Hammer: The Australian press
had become frustrated
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with Heath Ledger.
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He was their native son.
420
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He had all the success
in Australia in the late '90s
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that led to
a big Hollywood career,
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and here now we have
"Brokeback Mountain."
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This is arguably going to be
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the biggest role
of his career so far,
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and he was always press averse,
not interested in necessarily
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00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:37,373
giving the photographs
and great sound bites.
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00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:40,166
Woman: Heath,
over here, please!
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00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,100
So at the "Brokeback Mountain"
premiere on the red carpet...
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00:19:43,133 --> 00:19:44,483
Man: Turn around!
430
00:19:45,016 --> 00:19:48,146
Woman:
Please turn around!
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00:19:48,183 --> 00:19:52,473
...paparazzi shoots him with
water guns to get a reaction.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:58,403
Anderson: The paparazzi said
they were just getting him back,
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basically, because
Heath had spit on them.
435
00:20:01,083 --> 00:20:03,073
-Get him off me. Get him off me.
-Look, look, look, look.
436
00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:05,150
This is a guy
that did the water pistol.
437
00:20:05,183 --> 00:20:07,303
And the reason Heath spit
on them was apparently
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00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:10,003
because they had jumped out
and surprised him
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00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:13,033
and he was with Michelle.
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00:20:13,066 --> 00:20:15,126
So it wasn't pretty for him.
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00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:19,333
Velez-Mitchell: The lack of
privacy, the false rumors,
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00:20:19,366 --> 00:20:22,426
the gossip,
the constant scrutiny.
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00:20:22,466 --> 00:20:25,066
Norris: There's an assault
not just of flashing lights
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00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,480
but of yelling, "Over here,
over here, over here!
445
00:20:28,016 --> 00:20:30,066
Heath, Heath, Heath!
446
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,370
I don't know how long
that's been a fact
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of being in the public eye,
448
00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:34,470
but it can't be easy
to acclimate to.
449
00:20:35,016 --> 00:20:37,196
It was too much,
and he retreated from it.
450
00:20:38,466 --> 00:20:40,366
Anderson:
They settled in Brooklyn.
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00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,000
They had a quaint life with
their baby Matilda in Brooklyn.
452
00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:48,453
Not at all glitzy, just
shockingly, shockingly normal.
453
00:20:48,483 --> 00:20:53,123
It's an honor to kind of be part
of films that are well-received.
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On the flip side of that,
you know, my personal life
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completely outweighs any hype
that's in my professional life.
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00:20:58,433 --> 00:21:02,173
Anderson: It was a nice life,
and it seemed to be the normalcy
457
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,050
outside of his job
that he was seeking,
458
00:21:06,083 --> 00:21:08,383
but things did get
tough for them.
459
00:21:08,416 --> 00:21:10,326
I don't know what his demons
were in his past,
460
00:21:10,366 --> 00:21:12,996
but Heath clearly had them,
461
00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:15,423
and I think acting was a way
to soothe his soul.
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00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:18,330
Anderson: His performances
onscreen were intense.
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They were dynamite.
They were gold.
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But at what cost?
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Ledger: I've just really been
consumed with the work
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that I've been doing.
467
00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:30,073
Hammer: That was the beginning
of a deep, dark spiral
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00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,270
for Heath Ledger.
469
00:21:36,016 --> 00:21:37,396
Welcome back to
"how it really happened."
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The mystery surrounding
the death of Oscar nominated
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actor Heath Ledger
continued to deepen.
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00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:44,280
Police reported sleeping pills
and other prescription drugs
473
00:21:44,316 --> 00:21:47,026
had been discovered near
the 28-year-old's body.
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00:21:47,066 --> 00:21:48,346
And speculation ran rampant.
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00:21:48,383 --> 00:21:52,103
Was it foul play, suicide,
or an unfortunate
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00:21:52,133 --> 00:21:53,403
and untimely accident?
477
00:21:53,433 --> 00:21:56,183
Investigators delved into
the last weeks, days,
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00:21:56,216 --> 00:22:00,346
even hours of Ledger's life,
looking for clues.
479
00:22:01,066 --> 00:22:04,266
A private viewing today
for the family of Heath Ledger.
480
00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,270
Details about the actual funeral
not being released just yet,
481
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:10,400
but there are new details
about the timeline of events.
482
00:22:10,433 --> 00:22:14,303
This was a story
that led the news.
483
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,383
You're waiting for
every last little detail
484
00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:22,046
that could give any clue
into what may have happened.
485
00:22:22,083 --> 00:22:25,133
Police officials telling CNN
earlier that some
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sleeping pills, over-the-counter
sleeping pills,
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were found near
the Australian actor
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00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:33,376
who had completed filming
of the latest Batman film.
489
00:22:33,416 --> 00:22:36,996
When I finally went to see
"The Dark Knight",
490
00:22:37,033 --> 00:22:40,133
excellent film,
you couldn't not think of
491
00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:41,276
standing outside his apartment
492
00:22:41,316 --> 00:22:42,416
and watching his body
come out.
493
00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:44,280
It's just 900 degrees
494
00:22:44,316 --> 00:22:47,026
from the unbelievable
performance on that screen.
495
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,066
I think it's safe to say
that his death
496
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:53,180
cast an enormous shadow over
the subsequent release
497
00:22:53,216 --> 00:22:54,446
and promotion of
"The Dark Knight",
498
00:22:54,483 --> 00:22:56,153
the Batman film.
499
00:22:56,183 --> 00:22:58,223
Bale: The problem becomes when
people start to look at it
500
00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,280
in a macabre fashion.
501
00:22:59,316 --> 00:23:01,196
When people start to abuse that,
502
00:23:01,233 --> 00:23:02,483
it becomes a circus
based on that.
503
00:23:03,016 --> 00:23:04,376
Banfield: And I think a lot of
people in those theaters
504
00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:08,296
were wondering, "Did this role
have anything to do with this?"
505
00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:11,383
I've spoke with people
who found it offensive
506
00:23:11,416 --> 00:23:15,166
that that role was sort of used
to explain his descent
507
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,150
into darkness
and ultimately death.
508
00:23:18,183 --> 00:23:20,323
-So what are you proposing?
-It's simple.
509
00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:23,120
Kill the Batman.
510
00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:27,080
Norris: "See the role that drove
Heath Ledger to the edge."
511
00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:28,196
Come on. Hit me!
512
00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:29,373
Hammer: The Joker, yeah.
513
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,250
That was the role that everybody
has pointed to
514
00:23:34,283 --> 00:23:38,003
as sort of the beginning
of a deep, dark spiral
515
00:23:38,033 --> 00:23:40,083
for Heath Ledger,
and particularly how Heath
516
00:23:40,116 --> 00:23:43,016
played him was this
massive psychopath.
517
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,170
Ledger: You're a product of
environment, and there are
518
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,270
certain methods and things
that you have to go through
519
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,250
in order to feel
that and portray that,
520
00:23:50,283 --> 00:23:54,123
but it's quite hard
to put a finger on it exactly.
521
00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:57,430
Yammanee: He'd find the layer,
and then he'd go deeper
522
00:23:57,466 --> 00:24:01,096
and deeper and deeper,
and that's what gave
523
00:24:01,133 --> 00:24:03,423
such wonderful characters
that he brought to life.
524
00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:05,420
You know, it's kind of
a Faustian bargain.
525
00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:08,470
You really have to give a lot.
526
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,430
You have to sacrifice
a lot of yourself
527
00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:12,066
to do something like that.
528
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,250
It doesn't come without cost.
529
00:24:15,183 --> 00:24:18,223
He would spend a long time
trying to get the smallest
530
00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:21,280
detail of a character right.
531
00:24:21,316 --> 00:24:24,376
He had said that he spent
a month locked up in
532
00:24:24,416 --> 00:24:27,246
a hotel room trying to
figure out what was the voice
533
00:24:27,283 --> 00:24:29,483
he was going to use
for the Joker,
534
00:24:30,016 --> 00:24:31,366
secluding himself
from everywhere
535
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,230
and everybody just so
he could figure out the voice.
536
00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:36,196
Ooh, you want to play.
Come on.
537
00:24:36,233 --> 00:24:41,373
♪♪
538
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,070
Velez-Mitchell: He created
a diary where he really
539
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:51,270
fleshed out the Joker's persona,
not for the camera
540
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:54,030
but behind the scenes,
to try to inhabit
541
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:56,296
this role of a sociopath.
542
00:24:57,366 --> 00:25:00,116
That's pretty extreme.
543
00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:04,233
Hammer:
And as the diary evolved,
544
00:25:04,266 --> 00:25:07,076
it got darker and darker.
545
00:25:07,116 --> 00:25:11,026
Anderson: And the very end of
that diary, it says "Bye-bye."
546
00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:13,246
And he may have been talking
about just wrapping up
547
00:25:13,283 --> 00:25:16,423
that role, but with
what happened, ultimately,
548
00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:19,400
it hit home
a little bit differently.
549
00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:24,383
I think that Heath always
immersed himself in his role,
550
00:25:24,416 --> 00:25:27,166
and certainly the character
had a lot of pathology,
551
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,080
and I'm sure it didn't help
Heath, but it didn't kill him.
552
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:37,266
Maybe it's really all about
the fact that he had issues
553
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,170
with prescription medication,
and to play a role like that
554
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,170
might push you
right over the edge.
555
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,420
Banfield: There were so many
things that created a confluence
556
00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:49,130
of circumstance
for Heath Ledger,
557
00:25:49,166 --> 00:25:52,466
a dark role, a bright spotlight
that was not welcome,
558
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,370
a new child,
a breakup in his life.
559
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,150
Reporter: People.com reports
Heath Ledger
560
00:25:57,183 --> 00:25:59,053
and Michelle Williams
have split.
561
00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,453
The couple met filming
while "Brokeback Mountain"
562
00:26:00,483 --> 00:26:02,033
three years ago.
563
00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:03,466
Their daughter Matilda
turns 2 next month.
564
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Heath Ledger actually was
in a perilous place
565
00:26:06,233 --> 00:26:07,383
in his life right then.
566
00:26:07,416 --> 00:26:09,316
Hammer: One of the narratives
that was going on about
567
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:11,450
why there was trouble
for Heath and Michelle
568
00:26:11,483 --> 00:26:15,203
was that he still wanted
to be out and about.
569
00:26:15,233 --> 00:26:18,453
Certainly by the time he died,
there were two Heaths
570
00:26:18,483 --> 00:26:22,353
that the public consciousness
seemed to be entertaining.
571
00:26:22,383 --> 00:26:26,123
One was the committed
the Oscar nominated actor,
572
00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:29,380
serious artist, who was just
as serious about his daughter.
573
00:26:29,416 --> 00:26:33,066
The other Heath was a party boy.
574
00:26:34,016 --> 00:26:37,396
Hammer: There was that other
thing going on that portrayed
575
00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:40,483
Heath as a guy at one point
in his life who loved
576
00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,246
the party scene, who loved to
go out and go to clubs,
577
00:26:43,283 --> 00:26:46,033
and then there was
speculation about drugs
578
00:26:46,066 --> 00:26:49,396
because drugs will follow
in those circumstances.
579
00:26:51,450 --> 00:26:54,270
Yammanee: The close friends of
Heath were saying that
580
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,350
abuse of drugs was not an issue,
581
00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:02,123
and I tend
to trust them on that.
582
00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:05,350
It's a mystery when someone
dies inexplicably,
583
00:27:05,383 --> 00:27:07,123
but it was more the way
584
00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:10,430
that the pieces didn't fit
in this puzzle.
585
00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:15,400
The New York City police
spokesman saying very firmly,
586
00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,483
"We do not have
a cause of death,"
587
00:27:18,016 --> 00:27:19,016
and that's going
to be determined
588
00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:20,380
by the city's medical examiner.
589
00:27:20,416 --> 00:27:22,396
Over time,
we did learn some more
590
00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:24,303
about what really happened
in that apartment.
591
00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:27,153
At this hour,
the details are still unfolding.
592
00:27:27,183 --> 00:27:29,103
And then, of course,
la piece de resistance
593
00:27:29,133 --> 00:27:31,223
would be Mary-Kate Olsen.
594
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,420
Mary-Kate Olsen, we all heard
that and thought, "What?"
595
00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:46,070
Just not five days ago,
finished a job in Sydney
596
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:49,130
and that was my fifth
in a row,
597
00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:52,116
and so now I'm just going
to retire for a while, live.
598
00:27:55,316 --> 00:27:57,396
There's some new details this
morning about the moments
599
00:27:57,433 --> 00:28:00,373
immediately after actor
Heath Ledger was discovered dead
600
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,370
in his New York City apartment.
601
00:28:04,066 --> 00:28:07,316
Here was a 28-year-old actor,
a Hollywood movie star
602
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:09,400
in the apex of his career,
603
00:28:09,433 --> 00:28:13,483
and suddenly he was gone
under mysterious circumstances.
604
00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:16,166
Reading all the reports,
the gossip items,
605
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320
you're struggling to find
a picture of who was
606
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:21,100
Heath Ledger, especially
in his final days.
607
00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:24,383
Banfield: In 2007, he was
struggling after the breakup
608
00:28:24,416 --> 00:28:27,276
with Michelle Williams,
and he really threw himself
609
00:28:27,316 --> 00:28:34,226
into his work, and he started in
on this very unique film called
610
00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:38,066
"The Imaginarium of
Dr. Parnassus."
611
00:28:41,116 --> 00:28:45,276
Shooting on "Dr. Parnassus"
started two or three weeks
612
00:28:45,316 --> 00:28:49,076
after he finished his work
on "The Dark Knight."
613
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:55,130
He was already suffering
from chronic insomnia.
614
00:28:55,166 --> 00:28:56,316
The weather wasn't good.
615
00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:58,450
Apparently it was very damp
and very cold.
616
00:28:58,483 --> 00:29:01,483
Heath, as far as people
were able to tell,
617
00:29:02,016 --> 00:29:04,446
actually came down
with walking pneumonia.
618
00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:09,483
Anderson: When you're
working that hard,
619
00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:12,016
when you're traveling
between time zones,
620
00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,350
when you don't really
sleep well anyway,
621
00:29:14,383 --> 00:29:17,153
and then you're having
trouble in your relationship,
622
00:29:17,183 --> 00:29:18,203
you're going to struggle.
623
00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:20,073
A couple days before
Heath Ledger died,
624
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,220
he flies back from London
to New York
625
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:25,130
and settles into his place
down in Soho.
626
00:29:25,166 --> 00:29:26,276
[ Siren wailing ]
627
00:29:26,316 --> 00:29:29,076
♪♪
628
00:29:29,116 --> 00:29:32,176
Scott: I spoke to Heath Ledger
three hours or four hours
629
00:29:32,216 --> 00:29:34,016
before he died,
and he seemed to be
630
00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:36,350
having a miserable time
sleeping.
631
00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:39,283
Heath's father reported
that Heath had been on the phone
632
00:29:39,316 --> 00:29:42,126
with his sister Kate
the night before,
633
00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:44,166
that he told her
he wasn't feeling well
634
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,100
and that Kate
had actually warned him
635
00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:51,003
not to mix prescriptive drugs.
636
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,080
Anderson: A massage therapist
went to his Manhattan apartment
637
00:29:55,116 --> 00:29:57,446
to give him a scheduled massage.
638
00:29:57,483 --> 00:30:02,133
She calls his cellphone
because he failed to answer
639
00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:04,196
her knock on the door.
640
00:30:04,233 --> 00:30:09,053
She goes in and sets up
her massage table,
641
00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:11,323
even while Heath Ledger
is lying there.
642
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:13,220
And that's making
a lot of noise,
643
00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:16,030
but he doesn't stir,
he doesn't wake up.
644
00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:19,046
Then the masseuse
goes to try to shake Heath
645
00:30:19,083 --> 00:30:22,233
and wake him up and finds
his body cold to the touch.
646
00:30:23,033 --> 00:30:26,203
She became concerned,
so she used his phone.
647
00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:29,383
Calls a client that she had
in common with Heath Ledger.
648
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480
Cho: The masseuse
did not call 911.
649
00:30:34,016 --> 00:30:36,466
She called not once, not twice,
650
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,250
but three times,
his very good friend,
651
00:30:39,283 --> 00:30:42,053
another celebrity,
Mary-Kate Olsen.
652
00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:44,033
So Mary-Kate Olsen is
well-known for people
653
00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:46,216
who used to watch "Full House."
654
00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:51,180
She was one of a set of twins,
Ashley Olsen being her sister.
655
00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,996
Anderson: We were all stunned.
656
00:30:53,033 --> 00:30:56,253
We never knew that
there was a connection.
657
00:30:56,283 --> 00:30:59,323
Hammer: Apparently, Mary-Kate
tells the masseuse --
658
00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:02,220
she didn't say she was
going to call 911 for her.
659
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:05,230
She said, "I'm sending over
a security guard."
660
00:31:05,266 --> 00:31:08,246
Roth: Mary-Kate Olsen dispatches
her private security guard
661
00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,303
to the apartment while
the massage therapist
662
00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:14,083
finally dials 911.
663
00:31:14,116 --> 00:31:17,096
Hammer: The folks at 911
instruct the masseuse
664
00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:20,053
in how to perform CPR on Heath.
665
00:31:20,083 --> 00:31:23,333
Finally, at about the same time
the security guard shows up,
666
00:31:23,366 --> 00:31:26,326
so do the medical professionals.
667
00:31:26,366 --> 00:31:30,076
Paramedics arrived.
It was too late to revive Heath.
668
00:31:31,150 --> 00:31:34,430
Cooper: It is a grisly scene
as he was taken out
669
00:31:34,466 --> 00:31:38,096
just a few hours after being
found at approximately
670
00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:41,183
3:30 p.m. this afternoon.
671
00:31:41,216 --> 00:31:43,046
There was no suicide note.
672
00:31:43,083 --> 00:31:46,053
There were no signs
of foul play.
673
00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:48,323
People were speculating
it was drugs immediately.
674
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:51,130
There were reports that
a $20 bill had
675
00:31:51,166 --> 00:31:52,396
drug residue on it.
676
00:31:55,383 --> 00:31:58,353
And you're never really sure
how much of it is true.
677
00:31:58,383 --> 00:32:02,123
Police are revising their story
as more information comes out
678
00:32:02,150 --> 00:32:04,180
and as they talk
to more people who were there.
679
00:32:04,216 --> 00:32:06,276
There were
no illegal drugs found.
680
00:32:06,316 --> 00:32:09,296
There were prescription bottles.
681
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:14,230
There's been wide speculation
that he may have overdosed
682
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,366
on sleeping pills,
but it's going to be another
683
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,350
two weeks before
we know for sure.
684
00:32:20,316 --> 00:32:22,346
He gave an interview
toThe New York Times
685
00:32:22,383 --> 00:32:26,053
saying that he had
chronic insomnia.
686
00:32:27,133 --> 00:32:30,003
In fact, he said,
and I believe I'm quoting,
687
00:32:30,033 --> 00:32:32,053
"I was sleeping
two hours a night
688
00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:35,153
because my mind was just going
and going and going."
689
00:32:35,183 --> 00:32:39,153
And so it was known
that he had sleep problems.
690
00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:42,316
How he died, still a mystery,
but remember,
691
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:45,250
this is a young actor,
just 28 years old,
692
00:32:45,283 --> 00:32:48,383
compared to Marlon Brando,
Sean Penn.
693
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,230
Anderson: There was a lot of
speculation and criticism.
694
00:32:56,266 --> 00:33:00,276
Why did no one call
911 immediately
695
00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:02,096
when there were concerns?
696
00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:03,353
The idea that it's not a reflex
697
00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:05,403
when you come upon a person
who's non-responsive,
698
00:33:05,433 --> 00:33:10,323
you don't try to revive them
and call paramedics immediately
699
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:12,270
is hard to comprehend.
700
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,170
Anderson: Why did Mary-Kate
want to reach out
701
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,030
to security versus paramedics?
702
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Lots of questions this morning
surrounding the death of actor
703
00:33:21,116 --> 00:33:22,096
Heath Ledger.
704
00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:24,353
Investigators wanted
to know, why her?
705
00:33:24,383 --> 00:33:26,003
What did she know?
706
00:33:26,033 --> 00:33:28,173
Banfield: They wanted to talk
to Mary-Kate Olsen.
707
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,300
Astoundingly, she didn't
want to talk.
708
00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:32,273
It has changed the question
from what killed
709
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,100
Heath Ledger to what does
Mary-Kate know?
710
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:47,400
♪♪
711
00:33:47,433 --> 00:33:49,223
Anderson:
Two weeks after the death
712
00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:51,380
that shocked Hollywood
and the world,
713
00:33:51,416 --> 00:33:53,066
the New York City
medical examiner
714
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,320
revealed how Heath Ledger died.
715
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:57,200
People wanted answers.
716
00:33:57,233 --> 00:34:01,383
So every day, we worked to try
and get more and more answers.
717
00:34:01,416 --> 00:34:03,476
Heath died of
an accidental overdose
718
00:34:04,016 --> 00:34:06,276
of six prescription
medications.
719
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:11,123
Roth: The New York City medical
examiner eventually reported
720
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:14,100
that Heath Ledger died
of an accidental overdose
721
00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:16,153
from prescription medications.
722
00:34:16,183 --> 00:34:17,253
Nothing illegal.
723
00:34:17,283 --> 00:34:20,353
No illegal drugs
were found in the apartment.
724
00:34:23,183 --> 00:34:25,383
Hammer: There were a whole lot
of drugs in Heath's system
725
00:34:25,416 --> 00:34:30,016
and a whole lot of drugs that
shouldn't be taken together.
726
00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:34,050
Painkillers, sleeping pills,
anti-anxiety medication.
727
00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:36,273
I mean, drugs with names
like valium,
728
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,220
vicodin, oxycontin, Xanax.
729
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,100
Anderson:
And these were strong drugs,
730
00:34:41,133 --> 00:34:44,073
and he combined them,
and it was fatal.
731
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,300
Pinsky: Today when my patients
die of drug addiction,
732
00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:51,403
9 times at least out of 10,
prescription drugs,
733
00:34:51,433 --> 00:34:56,303
and it is always the combination
of benzodiazepine and opioid.
734
00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,333
And that is precisely what
they found in Heath Ledger.
735
00:34:59,366 --> 00:35:01,296
Opioids suppress
your respiration.
736
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:04,353
Benzodiazepines suppress
your respirations,
737
00:35:04,383 --> 00:35:06,303
but together
they do it profoundly
738
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,423
without you noticing it.
739
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:10,250
So when you go to sleep,
you do not wake up.
740
00:35:10,283 --> 00:35:12,423
King: Heath's father released
a statement on behalf of
741
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:14,420
the Ledger family after
the medical examiner's
742
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:16,230
findings were released.
743
00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:18,226
"We learned today that
the combination of
744
00:35:18,266 --> 00:35:21,996
doctor-prescribed drugs
proved lethal for our boy."
745
00:35:22,033 --> 00:35:25,473
Heath Ledger's father, Kim,
issued that statement about
746
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,380
saying that this combination
of drugs proved lethal
747
00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:30,116
for our boy.
748
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:35,050
The last four words of that
press release are so sad
749
00:35:35,083 --> 00:35:38,383
and do show what
this is actually about.
750
00:35:38,416 --> 00:35:42,276
An investigation was launched
because they wanted to find out
751
00:35:42,316 --> 00:35:44,196
exactly who prescribed
these drugs,
752
00:35:44,233 --> 00:35:46,083
where they all came from.
753
00:35:46,116 --> 00:35:50,076
I think whenever someone dies
regarding any drug overdose,
754
00:35:50,116 --> 00:35:52,226
you want to dot your I's
and cross your T's.
755
00:35:52,266 --> 00:35:54,216
Was he on prescription
medication?
756
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,370
If so, were they
the right doses?
757
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,070
Were they properly prescribed?
758
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,030
Good afternoon.
I'm NYPD lieutenant --
759
00:36:04,066 --> 00:36:06,366
Banfield: The investigation
is going into full steam,
760
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,270
and they wanted to ask
a lot of questions
761
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,230
of anybody
who might know something.
762
00:36:10,266 --> 00:36:11,416
Chetry: New developments today
763
00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:14,070
in the painkiller-related death
of actor Heath Ledger.
764
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,480
They did speak to doctors
and speak to his former fiancée
765
00:36:17,016 --> 00:36:20,226
and speak to those
who were close to him.
766
00:36:20,266 --> 00:36:23,146
And there was an issue, though,
in speaking to Mary-Kate Olsen.
767
00:36:23,183 --> 00:36:25,183
[ Police radio chatter ]
768
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:28,296
Mary-Kate Olsen got involved
because when his masseuse
769
00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:31,373
found him and he was cold
and non-responsive,
770
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,020
she didn't call 911.
771
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:35,030
She called Mary-Kate Olsen.
772
00:36:37,433 --> 00:36:39,373
Hammer: Investigators
are putting the pressure
773
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,220
on former child star
Mary-Kate Olsen
774
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:45,470
to answer questions
about Ledger's mysterious death.
775
00:36:47,066 --> 00:36:49,416
And investigators want
to know what Olsen knows.
776
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:54,130
It took a while, but finally
she released a statement saying,
777
00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:56,366
"I knew nothing about
where the drugs came from."
778
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,030
In response, Olsen's attorney
put out a statement
779
00:36:59,066 --> 00:37:00,396
this week saying in part, quote,
780
00:37:00,433 --> 00:37:03,353
"Mary-Kate Olsen had nothing
whatsoever to do with the drugs
781
00:37:03,383 --> 00:37:06,203
found in Heath Ledger's home
or his body,
782
00:37:06,233 --> 00:37:08,133
and she does not know
where he obtained them."
783
00:37:08,166 --> 00:37:12,126
She demanded immunity
before talking to investigators,
784
00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:16,226
and that only created
more mystery, more intrigue.
785
00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:19,146
I will say of all the things
that raises an eyebrow,
786
00:37:19,183 --> 00:37:23,023
it's the fact that she's
reportedly asked for immunity.
787
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:26,130
Jackson: Now, they never got
to speak with her
788
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:28,066
because the federal government
of the Southern district
789
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,020
just closes up
the investigation.
790
00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:33,120
Cho: Federal Investigators have
dropped their case
791
00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:36,220
into how Heath Ledger
got those powerful painkillers.
792
00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:38,150
In published reports,
a law enforcement source
793
00:37:38,183 --> 00:37:40,483
says prosecutors have given up
on the case in part
794
00:37:41,016 --> 00:37:43,326
because there's no, quote,
"viable target."
795
00:37:43,366 --> 00:37:46,396
Velez-Mitchell: They never found
out who prescribed all the meds
796
00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:49,253
or how he got all the meds,
whether he got them online
797
00:37:49,283 --> 00:37:52,053
or he got them
through some friend,
798
00:37:52,083 --> 00:37:54,103
but here's the sad truth
about America.
799
00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:56,403
You want prescription drugs,
you can get your hands on 'em.
800
00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:58,373
It's not difficult.
801
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,130
Nobody will ever know exactly
what happened in the hours
802
00:38:03,166 --> 00:38:06,446
before Heath Ledger's death
because he was alone.
803
00:38:06,483 --> 00:38:08,333
And at the very least,
he seemed like someone
804
00:38:08,366 --> 00:38:11,476
who, at that point,
should not have been alone.
805
00:38:12,016 --> 00:38:15,266
Yammanee: The death of Heath is
going to go into
806
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,120
the annals of history
as a mystery.
807
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:22,050
I'd rather people concern
themselves with the way he lived
808
00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:26,083
and what he did rather
than how he died.
809
00:38:26,116 --> 00:38:27,276
He had an incredible life,
810
00:38:27,316 --> 00:38:33,366
and his light really burned
bright, very brightly,
811
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,180
but not long enough.
812
00:38:35,216 --> 00:38:37,026
That's the tragedy.
813
00:38:41,166 --> 00:38:43,466
Arkin: And the Oscar goes to
814
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,230
Heath Ledger
in "The Dark Knight."
815
00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:47,146
Bragman" I remember when
I watched the Oscars
816
00:38:47,183 --> 00:38:52,203
and he won, shedding a tear
and just thinking how sad it was
817
00:38:52,233 --> 00:38:56,153
that he wasn't there
to grab this moment.
818
00:38:56,183 --> 00:38:59,483
[ Applause ]
819
00:39:00,016 --> 00:39:04,196
Koslow: I was just thrilled,
vindicated, you know,
820
00:39:04,233 --> 00:39:10,283
a real celebration of who he was
and what he did with his life.
821
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,100
Bragman: But I'm not sure
how comfortable
822
00:39:15,133 --> 00:39:16,323
he would have been
in that moment either.
823
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:18,450
I think there's a part of him
that would have loved
824
00:39:18,483 --> 00:39:22,053
the recognition by his peers
and a part of him that would
825
00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:24,303
have cringed at all the press
he would have had to do, too.
826
00:39:24,333 --> 00:39:26,473
It's almost like you're trying
to hide yourself,
827
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,280
and what bleeds
through of yourself
828
00:39:28,316 --> 00:39:31,226
are the bits
that make it on film, I guess.
829
00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,426
The rest is just there.
830
00:39:32,466 --> 00:39:36,226
It's me anyway with a wig
and some funny teeth on.
831
00:39:40,216 --> 00:39:42,476
In the years following
Heath Ledger's death,
832
00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:46,226
his father has crusaded against
prescription drug misuse.
833
00:39:46,266 --> 00:39:48,296
He toldPeople Magazine
in July 2016
834
00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:50,233
that Heath mixed a couple of
drugs together with
835
00:39:50,266 --> 00:39:53,016
sleeping tablets,
and he's gone forever.
836
00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:55,230
That's something we just
have to deal with.
837
00:39:55,266 --> 00:39:59,166
But the reasons why his son took
the lethal combination of pills
838
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,350
will forever remain a mystery.
839
00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:04,283
I'm Hill Harper.
Thanks for watching.
840
00:40:04,316 --> 00:40:09,176
♪♪
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