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I'm Hill Harper. 11 00:00:30,250 --> 00:00:33,270 Heath Ledger -- in less than a decade in Hollywood, 12 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:37,000 the ruggedly handsome, intensely charismatic Australian actor 13 00:00:37,033 --> 00:00:39,033 had become a household name. 14 00:00:39,066 --> 00:00:41,026 With critical acclaim for "Brokeback Mountain" 15 00:00:41,066 --> 00:00:44,266 and a blockbuster role as the Joker on the horizon, 16 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:47,230 Heath Ledger was seemingly unstoppable. 17 00:00:47,266 --> 00:00:49,426 Then tragedy. 18 00:00:49,466 --> 00:00:52,026 On a cold January afternoon in 2008, 19 00:00:52,066 --> 00:00:55,476 the 28-year-old was found dead in a New York City apartment. 20 00:00:56,016 --> 00:00:58,366 As the world mourned the loss of a beloved star, 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,120 speculation and suspicion about his death began to mount. 22 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:07,000 He was an immensely talented actor who died far too young. 23 00:01:07,033 --> 00:01:08,403 What really happened? 24 00:01:08,433 --> 00:01:10,283 [ Indistinct chatter ] 25 00:01:10,316 --> 00:01:13,346 Ledger: I'm not looking to go anywhere, to tell you the truth. 26 00:01:13,383 --> 00:01:15,373 I don't expect to go anywhere. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,200 You know, I just take it day by day, 28 00:01:20,233 --> 00:01:22,283 script by script. 29 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:24,076 That's my story. 30 00:01:24,116 --> 00:01:29,196 ♪♪ 31 00:01:29,233 --> 00:01:31,353 Roth: It was January 2008. 32 00:01:31,383 --> 00:01:34,103 Things were looking bleak in the economy. 33 00:01:34,133 --> 00:01:35,183 [ Bell dinging ] 34 00:01:35,216 --> 00:01:38,146 And I was positioned near Times Square 35 00:01:38,183 --> 00:01:41,033 in front of the NASDAQ stock market with our live truck 36 00:01:41,066 --> 00:01:43,346 to do live reports on a falling stock market. 37 00:01:43,383 --> 00:01:46,353 We're talking about a huge sell-off in worldwide markets. 38 00:01:46,383 --> 00:01:50,023 Roth: And I looked down at what was, I think, my Blackberry, 39 00:01:50,050 --> 00:01:52,430 and I saw that Heath Ledger had just died. 40 00:01:52,466 --> 00:01:54,276 I remember going, "Oh, my God." 41 00:01:54,316 --> 00:01:58,066 The news came as a shock. Actor Heath Ledger found dead. 42 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:03,303 I knew he was a big star and that he had been nominated 43 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:05,103 for "Brokeback Mountain". 44 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:07,473 Heath Ledger in "Brokeback Mountain". 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,020 I knew that "The Dark Knight" film was going to be huge, 46 00:02:12,050 --> 00:02:13,120 and I called the New York Bureau 47 00:02:13,150 --> 00:02:15,020 and said, "I'm going to go down there." 48 00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:16,370 We were just in our offices getting ready 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,430 for another day of entertainment news coverage 50 00:02:18,466 --> 00:02:20,226 when this news breaks. 51 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:25,046 I remember hustling into a car to get downtown to Soho 52 00:02:25,083 --> 00:02:28,033 right outside of Heath Ledger's building. 53 00:02:28,066 --> 00:02:31,416 Here in New York, we're down in Soho on Broome Street. 54 00:02:31,450 --> 00:02:35,020 And the crowds had been building through the afternoon 55 00:02:35,050 --> 00:02:37,330 as word started to get around. 56 00:02:37,366 --> 00:02:42,446 I remember the people who showed up outside his Soho loft, 57 00:02:42,483 --> 00:02:46,053 just this massive crowd, chaotic scene. 58 00:02:48,216 --> 00:02:50,416 Roth: It was dark, cold, and already 59 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:53,180 there was a lot of buzz on the streets. 60 00:02:53,216 --> 00:02:56,466 There were cameramen, still cameras running around. 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,100 -Just push back. -Let's go! 62 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,153 Man: Clear the sidewalk. 63 00:03:00,183 --> 00:03:03,123 Roth: The police had formed of this walkway 64 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:05,280 walking right from the apartment into what I believe 65 00:03:05,316 --> 00:03:08,076 was the medical examiner's van. 66 00:03:08,116 --> 00:03:09,466 [ Indistinct shouting ] 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,020 You line up, and the police push people back, 68 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:15,080 and you hear every second someone to your right 69 00:03:15,116 --> 00:03:16,416 walking down the street saying, "Hey, excuse me. 70 00:03:16,450 --> 00:03:18,420 What happened?" And another person on your left, 71 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:20,050 "Hey, do you know what's going on here?" 72 00:03:20,083 --> 00:03:21,253 Reporter: What do you think of the scene here? 73 00:03:21,283 --> 00:03:24,133 I actually just wanted to know what was going on. 74 00:03:24,166 --> 00:03:25,296 It's pretty crazy. 75 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:29,373 Hammer: And when you would hear somebody tell them, 76 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,070 "That's where Heath Ledger lives, 77 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:34,400 but they just found him dead," 78 00:03:34,433 --> 00:03:39,023 there was a moment of pause pretty much in everybody's face 79 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:42,270 because I can't say anybody would have imagined this 80 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:43,400 or have seen this coming. 81 00:03:43,433 --> 00:03:45,203 It's unbelievable. I can't believe it. 82 00:03:45,233 --> 00:03:49,083 He was so young and so vibrant. 83 00:03:49,116 --> 00:03:52,096 And then the body was brought out. 84 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:53,353 [ Camera shutters clicking ] 85 00:03:53,383 --> 00:03:55,453 I think it was rather silent, as usual, 86 00:03:55,483 --> 00:03:59,373 except for the loud buzzing, clicking of still cameras. 87 00:04:00,350 --> 00:04:02,100 Velez-Mitchell: This was one of the rare instances 88 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:06,083 where you actually saw a star's body in a black bag 89 00:04:06,116 --> 00:04:09,276 being removed from the scene in a stretcher. 90 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:10,366 It was a tragedy. 91 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Cooper: There are the rumors and speculation, 92 00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:15,430 the talk of whether illicit drugs may have been involved. 93 00:04:15,466 --> 00:04:20,076 Yammanee: The news of Heath's death was quite hard-hitting. 94 00:04:20,116 --> 00:04:25,116 Out of everyone we knew, he was the one that seemed invincible. 95 00:04:25,150 --> 00:04:27,170 He was the one that was so full of life. 96 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 He'd be the last person I would've expected 97 00:04:30,033 --> 00:04:32,153 to be gone so young. 98 00:04:33,383 --> 00:04:36,073 Heath was about living and life. 99 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:40,280 I'm always learning my performance as I as a person, 100 00:04:40,316 --> 00:04:42,316 it's evolving and maturing, 101 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:44,400 and I just want to continue to do that. 102 00:04:44,433 --> 00:04:48,083 The "Brokeback Mountain" actor was found dead in his apartment 103 00:04:48,116 --> 00:04:50,296 in downtown Manhattan today. 104 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,333 He had just completed the new Batman movie 105 00:04:52,366 --> 00:04:54,116 in which he plays the Joker. 106 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:56,270 Ledger was just 28 years old 107 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,300 and leaves behind a 2-year-old daughter. 108 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:04,183 When news of his death hit, it just didn't make too much sense. 109 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:08,366 And that just adds to the tragic nature of this story. 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Reporter: Relatives and friends have been consoling his family 111 00:05:12,033 --> 00:05:13,353 at their home in Perth. 112 00:05:13,383 --> 00:05:15,233 Heath spent his Christmas there 113 00:05:15,266 --> 00:05:18,146 in what he described as his best holiday ever. 114 00:05:18,183 --> 00:05:21,473 Outside the home of his former fiancée Michelle Williams 115 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,420 and his 2-year-old daughter Matilda, 116 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:26,150 signs of happier times. 117 00:05:26,183 --> 00:05:29,173 Williams has told friends she's devastated, 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,120 that words cannot describe how she's feeling. 119 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:36,400 My very last memory of him is at this party we were at, 120 00:05:36,433 --> 00:05:39,023 and he was about to leave for Prague, 121 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:40,300 and, you know, he said, 122 00:05:40,333 --> 00:05:42,423 "When I get back, we're going to get together." 123 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:45,030 You know, he kind of gave me that smile 124 00:05:45,066 --> 00:05:47,446 and walked out the door, and that was it. 125 00:05:47,483 --> 00:05:49,183 That was the last time. 126 00:05:49,216 --> 00:05:52,066 The body was found about four hours ago here. 127 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:53,270 That is what we are being told. 128 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:55,400 People were saying, "Was it suicide? 129 00:05:55,433 --> 00:05:57,323 Was it a drug overdose? 130 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:59,050 What was going on?" 131 00:05:59,083 --> 00:06:01,073 How did this happen? 132 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:02,450 Why did this happen? 133 00:06:02,483 --> 00:06:04,173 People wanted answers. 134 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,030 In the death of actor Heath Ledger -- 135 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:07,196 The death of Heath Ledger -- 136 00:06:07,233 --> 00:06:09,483 On so many different levels during his short life -- 137 00:06:10,016 --> 00:06:12,426 Banfield: This was a story that transcended just general news. 138 00:06:12,466 --> 00:06:14,346 There was a lot of mystery involved. 139 00:06:14,383 --> 00:06:17,353 One of the pieces of that mystery that still hasn't been 140 00:06:17,383 --> 00:06:21,133 figured out is what the heck did Mary-Kate Olsen have to do 141 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:23,276 with this entire situation? 142 00:06:23,316 --> 00:06:27,146 Suddenly, if you weren't interested in the story before, 143 00:06:27,183 --> 00:06:29,003 now you are. 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,050 Roberts: Lots of questions this morning surrounding 145 00:06:36,083 --> 00:06:37,433 the death of actor Heath Ledger. 146 00:06:37,466 --> 00:06:40,146 Hammer: There was obviously rampant speculation 147 00:06:40,183 --> 00:06:45,183 that night, that day that Heath died, of what happened. 148 00:06:45,216 --> 00:06:47,266 Roth: Ledger's body was discovered 149 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:48,400 at the foot of the bed. 150 00:06:48,433 --> 00:06:51,333 Cause of death is still to be determined. 151 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:55,173 No. 152 00:06:58,083 --> 00:06:59,483 I can't say that for certain. 153 00:07:00,016 --> 00:07:02,066 Why did Heath Ledger die? 154 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:04,430 What was really going on in that apartment? 155 00:07:04,466 --> 00:07:07,166 Just moments ago, Ledger's father spoke to reporters 156 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,330 in Perth, Australia, where Ledger is from. 157 00:07:09,366 --> 00:07:11,026 Heath has touched so many people 158 00:07:11,066 --> 00:07:14,046 on so many different levels during his short life, 159 00:07:14,083 --> 00:07:16,383 but few had the pleasure of truly knowing him. 160 00:07:16,416 --> 00:07:19,466 He was a down-to-earth, generous, kind-hearted, 161 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,250 life-loving, unselfish individual 162 00:07:22,283 --> 00:07:24,453 who was extremely inspirational to many. 163 00:07:24,483 --> 00:07:28,323 He was very close to his family, and they were devastated. 164 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:31,430 It was heartbreaking. They lost their boy. 165 00:07:31,466 --> 00:07:33,396 Ledger: I've chosen to stay out of the whole, 166 00:07:33,433 --> 00:07:35,103 you know, dazzlement of Hollywood. 167 00:07:35,133 --> 00:07:37,373 I am -- you know, I have my own life. 168 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,030 I have my own friends, and, I don't know. 169 00:07:41,066 --> 00:07:43,326 I keep grounded through that, especially my friends back home 170 00:07:43,366 --> 00:07:45,296 here in Australia, my family back here. 171 00:07:45,333 --> 00:07:47,433 They're very rich, and they're strong, 172 00:07:47,466 --> 00:07:50,116 and I love them, and I couldn't have done it without them 173 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:51,280 and can't do it without them. 174 00:07:51,316 --> 00:07:53,276 Heath Ledger was born in Perth, Australia, 175 00:07:53,316 --> 00:07:57,996 and he was the only son of a race car driver/engineer, 176 00:07:58,033 --> 00:08:01,023 that was his dad, and his mother was a French teacher. 177 00:08:01,050 --> 00:08:05,050 And he was into skateboarding and wind surfing. 178 00:08:05,083 --> 00:08:06,253 Ledger: I grew up surfing. 179 00:08:06,283 --> 00:08:10,003 When I go home to Australia, I surf as much as possible. 180 00:08:10,033 --> 00:08:12,403 He didn't really start acting or catch the acting bug 181 00:08:12,433 --> 00:08:14,103 until he was in grammar school 182 00:08:14,133 --> 00:08:16,083 and he was in a production of "Peter Pan." 183 00:08:16,116 --> 00:08:18,176 Heath and I met at Gilford Grammar School. 184 00:08:18,216 --> 00:08:20,266 We were 13. 185 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:24,300 I just remember this vibrant, jovial, young boy 186 00:08:24,333 --> 00:08:27,253 with a massive cheeky grin. 187 00:08:27,283 --> 00:08:30,123 That's my first memory of Heath. 188 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:31,470 Yeah, he never really changed. 189 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,450 Ledger: I haven't really done that much theater. 190 00:08:35,483 --> 00:08:37,153 I mean, I did when I was younger, 191 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:39,473 but I haven't for a long time, for about seven years. 192 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,080 Yammanee: One of my favorite times with Heath was back stage. 193 00:08:44,116 --> 00:08:48,296 The theater, acting, that was where we discovered ourselves 194 00:08:48,333 --> 00:08:50,003 and became who we were. 195 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:52,483 Both of us were so excited to move from Gilford 196 00:08:53,016 --> 00:08:54,216 and go into the next chapter. 197 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:56,150 It was one of those moments where you look into the future 198 00:08:56,183 --> 00:08:57,453 and everything looks bright. 199 00:08:57,483 --> 00:09:02,253 Heath Ledger's beginnings were really in Australia in the '90s, 200 00:09:02,283 --> 00:09:07,403 and it wasn't until he signed on to a show in America 201 00:09:07,433 --> 00:09:11,203 called "Roar" that he really became part of the scene here. 202 00:09:11,233 --> 00:09:15,073 I don't want to forget what you look like. 203 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:16,320 I'll be here tomorrow. 204 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:21,170 Koslow: We got a 13-episode commitment for a Fox summer show 205 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,370 and we decided to do it in Australia. 206 00:09:28,333 --> 00:09:32,083 An Australian casting director sent us an audition tape 207 00:09:32,116 --> 00:09:36,326 with about a dozen Australian actors, young guys, 208 00:09:36,366 --> 00:09:40,176 and Heath just jumped off the tape. 209 00:09:40,216 --> 00:09:42,216 You can't ever go back there. 210 00:09:42,250 --> 00:09:44,350 I don't want to. I want to be with you. 211 00:09:46,066 --> 00:09:48,096 I know a place where you're safe for the night. 212 00:09:48,133 --> 00:09:51,483 Some young talent comes with this light around them. 213 00:09:52,016 --> 00:09:55,266 I've seen it before, and he had that light. 214 00:09:56,316 --> 00:10:00,166 We were shooting it at the small resort town in Queensland, 215 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,200 so everybody was on location. 216 00:10:03,233 --> 00:10:07,083 I remember I wandered into a little restaurant one night, 217 00:10:07,116 --> 00:10:09,446 and I saw Heath and his dad having dinner, 218 00:10:09,483 --> 00:10:11,303 and they invited me over to the table. 219 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:14,173 And it turned out it was Heath's 18th birthday, 220 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,270 and his father, obviously, was very proud of him 221 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:19,400 and a little bit astonished that his son was suddenly 222 00:10:19,433 --> 00:10:22,133 the star of an American television series. 223 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:26,066 Acting, well, for me, at least, it's all about harnessing 224 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:30,250 the power of belief, you know, and I think once you do that, 225 00:10:30,283 --> 00:10:33,003 you can take yourself kind of anywhere, really. 226 00:10:34,416 --> 00:10:36,146 Anderson: I think I became aware of Heath 227 00:10:36,183 --> 00:10:38,253 when most girls or young women did, 228 00:10:38,283 --> 00:10:40,023 when he did "10 Things I Hate About You" 229 00:10:40,050 --> 00:10:41,220 with Julia Styles. 230 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:43,020 -How are you doing? -Sweating like a pig, actually. 231 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:44,150 And yourself? 232 00:10:44,183 --> 00:10:45,453 Now there's a way to get a guy's attention, huh? 233 00:10:45,483 --> 00:10:50,153 "10 Things I Hate About You" is what really got him noticed. 234 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:52,433 Anderson: He was good. He was handsome. 235 00:10:52,466 --> 00:10:54,146 He was charming. 236 00:10:54,183 --> 00:10:55,233 I think that's when I knew, 237 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,276 "Hey, here's this guy from Australia, 238 00:10:57,316 --> 00:10:59,226 and he's really going to make his mark." 239 00:10:59,266 --> 00:11:01,216 Your eyes have a little green in them. 240 00:11:01,250 --> 00:11:03,150 [ Chuckles ] 241 00:11:03,183 --> 00:11:04,323 [ Retches ] 242 00:11:05,466 --> 00:11:09,066 Yammanee: I remember seeing "A Knight's Tale" 243 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:12,270 sitting in the cinema and listening to all the females 244 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,420 behind me swooning over him. 245 00:11:14,450 --> 00:11:17,470 [ Indistinct shouting ] 246 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,080 And it was just fun just to chuckle to myself 247 00:11:21,116 --> 00:11:23,216 listening to these people 248 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:28,130 idolizing this larger-than-life person on the screen 249 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:31,416 knowing that he's such a down-to-earth guy. 250 00:11:32,416 --> 00:11:35,996 Koslow: I think perhaps the role that turned the corner 251 00:11:36,033 --> 00:11:38,173 for him was "The Patriot." 252 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,050 I was actually working with Mark Gordon 253 00:11:40,083 --> 00:11:43,273 at the time, who produced "The Patriot", 254 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:46,330 and I remember him asking me, "Do you think he can do it?" 255 00:11:46,366 --> 00:11:49,396 And I said, "No question." 256 00:11:49,433 --> 00:11:51,223 You know, it was the most important year 257 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:52,470 of my career, definitely. 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,170 Hammer: "The Patriot" was a big deal for Heath Ledger. 259 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,420 This is where he really got to show his acting chops, 260 00:11:57,450 --> 00:12:00,420 and that really set the foundation for 261 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:02,320 the bigger roles that he was about to walk into. 262 00:12:02,350 --> 00:12:03,350 Reporter: Where can you go from here? 263 00:12:03,383 --> 00:12:05,233 I mean, only up, right? 264 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:08,466 Um, no, you can go down. 265 00:12:10,283 --> 00:12:14,253 The thought crossed my mind that if we hadn't picked him off 266 00:12:14,283 --> 00:12:17,453 that tape, that kid from Perth, 267 00:12:17,483 --> 00:12:20,333 who knows, maybe he'd still be alive. 268 00:12:20,366 --> 00:12:22,466 Cooper: The search for answers tonight continues. 269 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,230 We've learned much more about what was going on inside 270 00:12:25,266 --> 00:12:28,246 his New York loft just before and after his body was found, 271 00:12:28,283 --> 00:12:30,153 even the link to Mary-Kate Olsen. 272 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:32,183 What is going on here? 273 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,080 The youngblood from Perth who is 22 274 00:12:38,116 --> 00:12:39,446 is already one of the hottest stars in Hollywood. 275 00:12:39,483 --> 00:12:42,123 Would you please welcome actor Heath Ledger? 276 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:45,350 [ Cheers and applause ] 277 00:12:49,016 --> 00:12:50,146 -Whoo. -Could you believe 278 00:12:50,183 --> 00:12:52,073 when you drive around Los Angeles, for example, 279 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:53,330 and you see your face up on a billboard 280 00:12:53,366 --> 00:12:55,416 or on the back of a bus, is that weird? 281 00:12:55,450 --> 00:12:56,470 I get really nervous with it, 282 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,220 and I get very self-conscious of it, 283 00:12:58,250 --> 00:13:00,150 but I guess I'm learning to deal with it 284 00:13:00,183 --> 00:13:02,203 a little better these days. 285 00:13:02,233 --> 00:13:05,183 [ Indistinct chatter ] 286 00:13:05,216 --> 00:13:08,076 Chetry: Actor Heath Ledger who was found yesterday 287 00:13:08,116 --> 00:13:10,116 in his New York City apartment. 288 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:13,350 Ledger, just 28, had finished shooting a new Batman sequel 289 00:13:13,383 --> 00:13:16,083 called "The Dark Knight" where he played the Joker. 290 00:13:16,116 --> 00:13:18,176 He also earned an Oscar nomination for his role 291 00:13:18,216 --> 00:13:20,046 in "Brokeback Mountain." 292 00:13:20,083 --> 00:13:24,473 I think what truly hit home was how somebody 293 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,220 with so much promise and so much potential, 294 00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:30,230 the life could be snuffed out like that. 295 00:13:41,183 --> 00:13:42,403 Banfield: One of the first reports that came out from 296 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:45,353 the police was that sleeping pills had been found 297 00:13:45,383 --> 00:13:49,373 in or on or around Heath's body when they discovered him. 298 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,150 There were -- I don't have an exact number. 299 00:13:54,183 --> 00:13:56,283 People were saying, "Was it suicide? 300 00:13:56,316 --> 00:13:59,416 Was it a drug overdose? What was going on?" 301 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:03,350 I don't deal in gut feelings. 302 00:14:03,383 --> 00:14:05,303 I can just tell you there's been no determination 303 00:14:05,333 --> 00:14:08,323 as to the cause of death, okay? 304 00:14:08,350 --> 00:14:11,050 Velez-Mitchell: There was a sense he was a decent guy 305 00:14:11,083 --> 00:14:14,223 who may have just fallen into the wrong path 306 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:16,470 because of a whole bunch of stressors. 307 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Long days, 18-hour days, and that's it. 308 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:23,430 So I've just really been consumed with the work 309 00:14:23,466 --> 00:14:24,996 that I've been doing. 310 00:14:25,033 --> 00:14:27,233 Have you found it a challenge to be working 311 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:31,246 and promoting your films and be traveling so much? 312 00:14:31,283 --> 00:14:33,033 Yeah, it is. 313 00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:36,376 You know, I mean, it's not killing me, but it's a grind. 314 00:14:36,416 --> 00:14:38,066 Roberts: He was actually kind of a quiet fellow. 315 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:40,020 I shared a row with him on a flight 316 00:14:40,050 --> 00:14:41,470 out to Chicago last summer. 317 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,380 We chatted a little bit, and, you know, 318 00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:45,046 he's a very quiet sort of guy, 319 00:14:45,083 --> 00:14:47,373 but he liked to choose challenging roles. 320 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,400 Norris: I spoke with people that said Heath Ledger's darkest 321 00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:54,033 moment during the time that he knew them was after 322 00:14:54,066 --> 00:14:55,426 being nominated for an Academy Award 323 00:14:55,466 --> 00:14:56,476 for "Brokeback Mountain." 324 00:14:57,016 --> 00:14:58,246 He got a lot of attention. 325 00:14:58,283 --> 00:15:00,283 Reporter: Are you prepared for the onslaught 326 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:03,416 of all the Oscar buzz that it's already receiving? 327 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:08,130 Um, no, not really. I'm not sure how to. 328 00:15:08,166 --> 00:15:11,276 Woman: The Best Performance By an Actor in a Leading Role, 329 00:15:11,316 --> 00:15:14,226 Heath Ledger in "Brokeback Mountain." 330 00:15:14,266 --> 00:15:20,366 And this thing grabs hold of us again in the wrong place 331 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,200 and the wrong time, and we're dead. 332 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,200 Reporter: Getting a lot of Oscar buzz. 333 00:15:27,233 --> 00:15:30,053 Uh, sure. Have you thought about it? 334 00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:32,353 Uh, obviously, yeah. 335 00:15:32,383 --> 00:15:34,053 You can't help but think about it 336 00:15:34,083 --> 00:15:37,073 when people are ramming it down your throat. 337 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:40,000 Tuchman: He was nominated for an Oscar for his performance, 338 00:15:40,033 --> 00:15:41,333 and the woman who played his wife in the film, 339 00:15:41,366 --> 00:15:45,016 Michelle Williams, became his girlfriend in real life. 340 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,180 Hammer: Heath and Michelle met on the set of 341 00:15:47,216 --> 00:15:49,216 "Brokeback Mountain" back in 2004, 342 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:51,470 and they instantly hit it off. 343 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,380 Their romance was written like a Hollywood script. 344 00:15:56,433 --> 00:15:59,183 Anderson: It was said that when he was really rough on her 345 00:15:59,216 --> 00:16:01,276 during a scene that he would apologize 346 00:16:01,316 --> 00:16:03,226 and wrap her in his embrace 347 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,376 and, "I'm sorry I was hard on you today," 348 00:16:05,416 --> 00:16:07,066 that sort of thing, but that's where 349 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,430 they became extremely close, 350 00:16:08,466 --> 00:16:11,016 and that's where they fell in love. 351 00:16:11,050 --> 00:16:14,020 Ledger: My life changed certainly from meeting Michelle. 352 00:16:14,050 --> 00:16:15,430 I have a family, a beautiful family 353 00:16:15,466 --> 00:16:18,316 and two beautiful girls thanks to "Brokeback Mountain." 354 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:21,400 So it's extraordinary, the level in which my life has changed. 355 00:16:21,433 --> 00:16:23,133 Hammer: Less than a year later, 356 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:26,166 Michelle gave birth to their daughter, Matilda, 357 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,180 to whom Heath was so devoutly dedicated. 358 00:16:30,216 --> 00:16:33,266 This was now the great love of his life. 359 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:35,350 Reporter: Congratulations. 360 00:16:35,383 --> 00:16:37,273 How does it feel to be a dad? 361 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:41,420 Um, very humbling, yes. Yes. 362 00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:46,180 I'm very comfortable in the daddy position. 363 00:16:46,216 --> 00:16:48,126 Yeah. Just like that. 364 00:16:48,166 --> 00:16:51,176 [ Indistinct shouting ] 365 00:16:51,216 --> 00:16:53,176 On the red carpet, Heath was working, 366 00:16:53,216 --> 00:16:55,426 but not really doing the work he really liked. 367 00:16:55,466 --> 00:16:57,026 I don't know. 368 00:16:57,066 --> 00:16:59,296 I'm not really up on the whole system. 369 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:01,103 And when he was home, 370 00:17:01,133 --> 00:17:04,473 he loved to carry his daughter around all the time. 371 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,150 Cho: They really tried to give that little girl 372 00:17:09,183 --> 00:17:11,183 as much of a normal life as they could. 373 00:17:11,216 --> 00:17:14,176 I mean, as normal as you could be for a Hollywood star. 374 00:17:15,316 --> 00:17:18,196 Banfield: The fame came to him so quickly, 375 00:17:18,233 --> 00:17:21,183 the paparazzi, the attention, the media glare. 376 00:17:21,216 --> 00:17:23,416 It's a lot of stress for a young person to handle 377 00:17:23,450 --> 00:17:26,430 when you're working hard at the same time. 378 00:17:26,466 --> 00:17:28,196 Velez-Mitchell: People think being an actor is easy, 379 00:17:28,233 --> 00:17:32,153 but when you're an actor who becomes a star, it is so hard. 380 00:17:32,183 --> 00:17:34,303 You've got to go out there and sell yourself. 381 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,223 Heath Ledger hated it. 382 00:17:36,250 --> 00:17:39,330 Hammer: So part of deal when you sign up to be in a movie 383 00:17:39,366 --> 00:17:42,096 is you sign up to do the promotion for the movie. 384 00:17:42,133 --> 00:17:45,003 He didn't love being in front of the camera 385 00:17:45,033 --> 00:17:47,103 unless it was for portraying a role. 386 00:17:47,133 --> 00:17:50,323 What I love doing and all of that I do 387 00:17:50,350 --> 00:17:52,070 is that time between action and cut. 388 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:53,130 That's what I really love, 389 00:17:53,166 --> 00:17:55,076 and that's what I invest all my effort 390 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:57,316 and all my emotions and time into. 391 00:17:57,350 --> 00:18:00,050 Hammer: Howard Bragman was one of people who was brought in 392 00:18:00,083 --> 00:18:02,003 to help him be more comfortable 393 00:18:02,033 --> 00:18:04,453 in preparing for interviews for "Brokeback Mountain." 394 00:18:04,483 --> 00:18:10,023 I was retained by Focus Features to get everybody involved 395 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:13,320 in "Brokeback Mountain" singing from the same hymnal, as we say. 396 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:15,370 Heath was one they were particularly concerned about. 397 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,270 Heath was never known to be a good interviewer. 398 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,350 We're recording right now. 399 00:18:19,383 --> 00:18:22,053 Bragman: He had no desire to be more comfortable in the media. 400 00:18:22,083 --> 00:18:25,023 It was very clear to me by reputation 401 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:28,350 and watching his interviews that he didn't like it. 402 00:18:28,383 --> 00:18:30,303 It's obviously -- you know -- 403 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:32,453 He can't sit still, the poor guy. 404 00:18:32,483 --> 00:18:37,233 He's kind of anxious and scratching and jumping around, 405 00:18:37,266 --> 00:18:40,196 would get irritated if he didn't like the question. 406 00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:43,073 That was a quick eight minutes. Thanks. 407 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,000 Just kind of everything you could do wrong, 408 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:46,403 he kind of embraced it. 409 00:18:47,383 --> 00:18:50,253 Anderson: He loved acting. He loved his craft. 410 00:18:50,283 --> 00:18:51,433 He wanted to be an actor. 411 00:18:51,466 --> 00:18:55,266 He did not want to be a celebrity. 412 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,100 Man: Look straight ahead, Heath! 413 00:18:58,133 --> 00:19:01,423 Heath always had a tenuous relationship with the paparazzi, 414 00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:03,180 and who can blame the guy? 415 00:19:03,216 --> 00:19:07,366 The paparazzi can be extremely aggressive and intrusive. 416 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,050 Woman: And over here, please! 417 00:19:10,083 --> 00:19:12,183 Hammer: The Australian press had become frustrated 418 00:19:12,216 --> 00:19:13,126 with Heath Ledger. 419 00:19:13,166 --> 00:19:14,396 He was their native son. 420 00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:19,053 He had all the success in Australia in the late '90s 421 00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:21,353 that led to a big Hollywood career, 422 00:19:21,383 --> 00:19:24,053 and here now we have "Brokeback Mountain." 423 00:19:24,083 --> 00:19:26,183 This is arguably going to be 424 00:19:26,216 --> 00:19:29,466 the biggest role of his career so far, 425 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,000 and he was always press averse, not interested in necessarily 426 00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:37,373 giving the photographs and great sound bites. 427 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:40,166 Woman: Heath, over here, please! 428 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,100 So at the "Brokeback Mountain" premiere on the red carpet... 429 00:19:43,133 --> 00:19:44,483 Man: Turn around! 430 00:19:45,016 --> 00:19:48,146 Woman: Please turn around! 431 00:19:48,183 --> 00:19:52,473 ...paparazzi shoots him with water guns to get a reaction. 432 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,100 [ Indistinct shouting ] 433 00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:58,403 Anderson: The paparazzi said they were just getting him back, 434 00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:01,053 basically, because Heath had spit on them. 435 00:20:01,083 --> 00:20:03,073 -Get him off me. Get him off me. -Look, look, look, look. 436 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:05,150 This is a guy that did the water pistol. 437 00:20:05,183 --> 00:20:07,303 And the reason Heath spit on them was apparently 438 00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:10,003 because they had jumped out and surprised him 439 00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:13,033 and he was with Michelle. 440 00:20:13,066 --> 00:20:15,126 So it wasn't pretty for him. 441 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:19,333 Velez-Mitchell: The lack of privacy, the false rumors, 442 00:20:19,366 --> 00:20:22,426 the gossip, the constant scrutiny. 443 00:20:22,466 --> 00:20:25,066 Norris: There's an assault not just of flashing lights 444 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,480 but of yelling, "Over here, over here, over here! 445 00:20:28,016 --> 00:20:30,066 Heath, Heath, Heath! 446 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,370 I don't know how long that's been a fact 447 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,120 of being in the public eye, 448 00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:34,470 but it can't be easy to acclimate to. 449 00:20:35,016 --> 00:20:37,196 It was too much, and he retreated from it. 450 00:20:38,466 --> 00:20:40,366 Anderson: They settled in Brooklyn. 451 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,000 They had a quaint life with their baby Matilda in Brooklyn. 452 00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:48,453 Not at all glitzy, just shockingly, shockingly normal. 453 00:20:48,483 --> 00:20:53,123 It's an honor to kind of be part of films that are well-received. 454 00:20:53,150 --> 00:20:55,430 On the flip side of that, you know, my personal life 455 00:20:55,466 --> 00:20:58,396 completely outweighs any hype that's in my professional life. 456 00:20:58,433 --> 00:21:02,173 Anderson: It was a nice life, and it seemed to be the normalcy 457 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,050 outside of his job that he was seeking, 458 00:21:06,083 --> 00:21:08,383 but things did get tough for them. 459 00:21:08,416 --> 00:21:10,326 I don't know what his demons were in his past, 460 00:21:10,366 --> 00:21:12,996 but Heath clearly had them, 461 00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:15,423 and I think acting was a way to soothe his soul. 462 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:18,330 Anderson: His performances onscreen were intense. 463 00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:20,246 They were dynamite. They were gold. 464 00:21:20,283 --> 00:21:22,023 But at what cost? 465 00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:24,230 Ledger: I've just really been consumed with the work 466 00:21:24,266 --> 00:21:25,396 that I've been doing. 467 00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:30,073 Hammer: That was the beginning of a deep, dark spiral 468 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,270 for Heath Ledger. 469 00:21:36,016 --> 00:21:37,396 Welcome back to "how it really happened." 470 00:21:37,433 --> 00:21:39,353 The mystery surrounding the death of Oscar nominated 471 00:21:39,383 --> 00:21:42,023 actor Heath Ledger continued to deepen. 472 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:44,280 Police reported sleeping pills and other prescription drugs 473 00:21:44,316 --> 00:21:47,026 had been discovered near the 28-year-old's body. 474 00:21:47,066 --> 00:21:48,346 And speculation ran rampant. 475 00:21:48,383 --> 00:21:52,103 Was it foul play, suicide, or an unfortunate 476 00:21:52,133 --> 00:21:53,403 and untimely accident? 477 00:21:53,433 --> 00:21:56,183 Investigators delved into the last weeks, days, 478 00:21:56,216 --> 00:22:00,346 even hours of Ledger's life, looking for clues. 479 00:22:01,066 --> 00:22:04,266 A private viewing today for the family of Heath Ledger. 480 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,270 Details about the actual funeral not being released just yet, 481 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:10,400 but there are new details about the timeline of events. 482 00:22:10,433 --> 00:22:14,303 This was a story that led the news. 483 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,383 You're waiting for every last little detail 484 00:22:17,416 --> 00:22:22,046 that could give any clue into what may have happened. 485 00:22:22,083 --> 00:22:25,133 Police officials telling CNN earlier that some 486 00:22:25,166 --> 00:22:27,466 sleeping pills, over-the-counter sleeping pills, 487 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,030 were found near the Australian actor 488 00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:33,376 who had completed filming of the latest Batman film. 489 00:22:33,416 --> 00:22:36,996 When I finally went to see "The Dark Knight", 490 00:22:37,033 --> 00:22:40,133 excellent film, you couldn't not think of 491 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:41,276 standing outside his apartment 492 00:22:41,316 --> 00:22:42,416 and watching his body come out. 493 00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:44,280 It's just 900 degrees 494 00:22:44,316 --> 00:22:47,026 from the unbelievable performance on that screen. 495 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,066 I think it's safe to say that his death 496 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:53,180 cast an enormous shadow over the subsequent release 497 00:22:53,216 --> 00:22:54,446 and promotion of "The Dark Knight", 498 00:22:54,483 --> 00:22:56,153 the Batman film. 499 00:22:56,183 --> 00:22:58,223 Bale: The problem becomes when people start to look at it 500 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,280 in a macabre fashion. 501 00:22:59,316 --> 00:23:01,196 When people start to abuse that, 502 00:23:01,233 --> 00:23:02,483 it becomes a circus based on that. 503 00:23:03,016 --> 00:23:04,376 Banfield: And I think a lot of people in those theaters 504 00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:08,296 were wondering, "Did this role have anything to do with this?" 505 00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:11,383 I've spoke with people who found it offensive 506 00:23:11,416 --> 00:23:15,166 that that role was sort of used to explain his descent 507 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,150 into darkness and ultimately death. 508 00:23:18,183 --> 00:23:20,323 -So what are you proposing? -It's simple. 509 00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:23,120 Kill the Batman. 510 00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:27,080 Norris: "See the role that drove Heath Ledger to the edge." 511 00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:28,196 Come on. Hit me! 512 00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:29,373 Hammer: The Joker, yeah. 513 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,250 That was the role that everybody has pointed to 514 00:23:34,283 --> 00:23:38,003 as sort of the beginning of a deep, dark spiral 515 00:23:38,033 --> 00:23:40,083 for Heath Ledger, and particularly how Heath 516 00:23:40,116 --> 00:23:43,016 played him was this massive psychopath. 517 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,170 Ledger: You're a product of environment, and there are 518 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,270 certain methods and things that you have to go through 519 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,250 in order to feel that and portray that, 520 00:23:50,283 --> 00:23:54,123 but it's quite hard to put a finger on it exactly. 521 00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:57,430 Yammanee: He'd find the layer, and then he'd go deeper 522 00:23:57,466 --> 00:24:01,096 and deeper and deeper, and that's what gave 523 00:24:01,133 --> 00:24:03,423 such wonderful characters that he brought to life. 524 00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:05,420 You know, it's kind of a Faustian bargain. 525 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:08,470 You really have to give a lot. 526 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,430 You have to sacrifice a lot of yourself 527 00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:12,066 to do something like that. 528 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,250 It doesn't come without cost. 529 00:24:15,183 --> 00:24:18,223 He would spend a long time trying to get the smallest 530 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:21,280 detail of a character right. 531 00:24:21,316 --> 00:24:24,376 He had said that he spent a month locked up in 532 00:24:24,416 --> 00:24:27,246 a hotel room trying to figure out what was the voice 533 00:24:27,283 --> 00:24:29,483 he was going to use for the Joker, 534 00:24:30,016 --> 00:24:31,366 secluding himself from everywhere 535 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,230 and everybody just so he could figure out the voice. 536 00:24:34,266 --> 00:24:36,196 Ooh, you want to play. Come on. 537 00:24:36,233 --> 00:24:41,373 ♪♪ 538 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,070 Velez-Mitchell: He created a diary where he really 539 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:51,270 fleshed out the Joker's persona, not for the camera 540 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:54,030 but behind the scenes, to try to inhabit 541 00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:56,296 this role of a sociopath. 542 00:24:57,366 --> 00:25:00,116 That's pretty extreme. 543 00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:04,233 Hammer: And as the diary evolved, 544 00:25:04,266 --> 00:25:07,076 it got darker and darker. 545 00:25:07,116 --> 00:25:11,026 Anderson: And the very end of that diary, it says "Bye-bye." 546 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:13,246 And he may have been talking about just wrapping up 547 00:25:13,283 --> 00:25:16,423 that role, but with what happened, ultimately, 548 00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:19,400 it hit home a little bit differently. 549 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:24,383 I think that Heath always immersed himself in his role, 550 00:25:24,416 --> 00:25:27,166 and certainly the character had a lot of pathology, 551 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,080 and I'm sure it didn't help Heath, but it didn't kill him. 552 00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:37,266 Maybe it's really all about the fact that he had issues 553 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,170 with prescription medication, and to play a role like that 554 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,170 might push you right over the edge. 555 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,420 Banfield: There were so many things that created a confluence 556 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:49,130 of circumstance for Heath Ledger, 557 00:25:49,166 --> 00:25:52,466 a dark role, a bright spotlight that was not welcome, 558 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,370 a new child, a breakup in his life. 559 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,150 Reporter: People.com reports Heath Ledger 560 00:25:57,183 --> 00:25:59,053 and Michelle Williams have split. 561 00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,453 The couple met filming while "Brokeback Mountain" 562 00:26:00,483 --> 00:26:02,033 three years ago. 563 00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:03,466 Their daughter Matilda turns 2 next month. 564 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Heath Ledger actually was in a perilous place 565 00:26:06,233 --> 00:26:07,383 in his life right then. 566 00:26:07,416 --> 00:26:09,316 Hammer: One of the narratives that was going on about 567 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:11,450 why there was trouble for Heath and Michelle 568 00:26:11,483 --> 00:26:15,203 was that he still wanted to be out and about. 569 00:26:15,233 --> 00:26:18,453 Certainly by the time he died, there were two Heaths 570 00:26:18,483 --> 00:26:22,353 that the public consciousness seemed to be entertaining. 571 00:26:22,383 --> 00:26:26,123 One was the committed the Oscar nominated actor, 572 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:29,380 serious artist, who was just as serious about his daughter. 573 00:26:29,416 --> 00:26:33,066 The other Heath was a party boy. 574 00:26:34,016 --> 00:26:37,396 Hammer: There was that other thing going on that portrayed 575 00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:40,483 Heath as a guy at one point in his life who loved 576 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,246 the party scene, who loved to go out and go to clubs, 577 00:26:43,283 --> 00:26:46,033 and then there was speculation about drugs 578 00:26:46,066 --> 00:26:49,396 because drugs will follow in those circumstances. 579 00:26:51,450 --> 00:26:54,270 Yammanee: The close friends of Heath were saying that 580 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,350 abuse of drugs was not an issue, 581 00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:02,123 and I tend to trust them on that. 582 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:05,350 It's a mystery when someone dies inexplicably, 583 00:27:05,383 --> 00:27:07,123 but it was more the way 584 00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:10,430 that the pieces didn't fit in this puzzle. 585 00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:15,400 The New York City police spokesman saying very firmly, 586 00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,483 "We do not have a cause of death," 587 00:27:18,016 --> 00:27:19,016 and that's going to be determined 588 00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:20,380 by the city's medical examiner. 589 00:27:20,416 --> 00:27:22,396 Over time, we did learn some more 590 00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:24,303 about what really happened in that apartment. 591 00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:27,153 At this hour, the details are still unfolding. 592 00:27:27,183 --> 00:27:29,103 And then, of course, la piece de resistance 593 00:27:29,133 --> 00:27:31,223 would be Mary-Kate Olsen. 594 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,420 Mary-Kate Olsen, we all heard that and thought, "What?" 595 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:46,070 Just not five days ago, finished a job in Sydney 596 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:49,130 and that was my fifth in a row, 597 00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:52,116 and so now I'm just going to retire for a while, live. 598 00:27:55,316 --> 00:27:57,396 There's some new details this morning about the moments 599 00:27:57,433 --> 00:28:00,373 immediately after actor Heath Ledger was discovered dead 600 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,370 in his New York City apartment. 601 00:28:04,066 --> 00:28:07,316 Here was a 28-year-old actor, a Hollywood movie star 602 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:09,400 in the apex of his career, 603 00:28:09,433 --> 00:28:13,483 and suddenly he was gone under mysterious circumstances. 604 00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:16,166 Reading all the reports, the gossip items, 605 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 you're struggling to find a picture of who was 606 00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:21,100 Heath Ledger, especially in his final days. 607 00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:24,383 Banfield: In 2007, he was struggling after the breakup 608 00:28:24,416 --> 00:28:27,276 with Michelle Williams, and he really threw himself 609 00:28:27,316 --> 00:28:34,226 into his work, and he started in on this very unique film called 610 00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:38,066 "The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus." 611 00:28:41,116 --> 00:28:45,276 Shooting on "Dr. Parnassus" started two or three weeks 612 00:28:45,316 --> 00:28:49,076 after he finished his work on "The Dark Knight." 613 00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:55,130 He was already suffering from chronic insomnia. 614 00:28:55,166 --> 00:28:56,316 The weather wasn't good. 615 00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:58,450 Apparently it was very damp and very cold. 616 00:28:58,483 --> 00:29:01,483 Heath, as far as people were able to tell, 617 00:29:02,016 --> 00:29:04,446 actually came down with walking pneumonia. 618 00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:09,483 Anderson: When you're working that hard, 619 00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:12,016 when you're traveling between time zones, 620 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,350 when you don't really sleep well anyway, 621 00:29:14,383 --> 00:29:17,153 and then you're having trouble in your relationship, 622 00:29:17,183 --> 00:29:18,203 you're going to struggle. 623 00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:20,073 A couple days before Heath Ledger died, 624 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,220 he flies back from London to New York 625 00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:25,130 and settles into his place down in Soho. 626 00:29:25,166 --> 00:29:26,276 [ Siren wailing ] 627 00:29:26,316 --> 00:29:29,076 ♪♪ 628 00:29:29,116 --> 00:29:32,176 Scott: I spoke to Heath Ledger three hours or four hours 629 00:29:32,216 --> 00:29:34,016 before he died, and he seemed to be 630 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:36,350 having a miserable time sleeping. 631 00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:39,283 Heath's father reported that Heath had been on the phone 632 00:29:39,316 --> 00:29:42,126 with his sister Kate the night before, 633 00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:44,166 that he told her he wasn't feeling well 634 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,100 and that Kate had actually warned him 635 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:51,003 not to mix prescriptive drugs. 636 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,080 Anderson: A massage therapist went to his Manhattan apartment 637 00:29:55,116 --> 00:29:57,446 to give him a scheduled massage. 638 00:29:57,483 --> 00:30:02,133 She calls his cellphone because he failed to answer 639 00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:04,196 her knock on the door. 640 00:30:04,233 --> 00:30:09,053 She goes in and sets up her massage table, 641 00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:11,323 even while Heath Ledger is lying there. 642 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:13,220 And that's making a lot of noise, 643 00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:16,030 but he doesn't stir, he doesn't wake up. 644 00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:19,046 Then the masseuse goes to try to shake Heath 645 00:30:19,083 --> 00:30:22,233 and wake him up and finds his body cold to the touch. 646 00:30:23,033 --> 00:30:26,203 She became concerned, so she used his phone. 647 00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:29,383 Calls a client that she had in common with Heath Ledger. 648 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Cho: The masseuse did not call 911. 649 00:30:34,016 --> 00:30:36,466 She called not once, not twice, 650 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,250 but three times, his very good friend, 651 00:30:39,283 --> 00:30:42,053 another celebrity, Mary-Kate Olsen. 652 00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:44,033 So Mary-Kate Olsen is well-known for people 653 00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:46,216 who used to watch "Full House." 654 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:51,180 She was one of a set of twins, Ashley Olsen being her sister. 655 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,996 Anderson: We were all stunned. 656 00:30:53,033 --> 00:30:56,253 We never knew that there was a connection. 657 00:30:56,283 --> 00:30:59,323 Hammer: Apparently, Mary-Kate tells the masseuse -- 658 00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:02,220 she didn't say she was going to call 911 for her. 659 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:05,230 She said, "I'm sending over a security guard." 660 00:31:05,266 --> 00:31:08,246 Roth: Mary-Kate Olsen dispatches her private security guard 661 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,303 to the apartment while the massage therapist 662 00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:14,083 finally dials 911. 663 00:31:14,116 --> 00:31:17,096 Hammer: The folks at 911 instruct the masseuse 664 00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:20,053 in how to perform CPR on Heath. 665 00:31:20,083 --> 00:31:23,333 Finally, at about the same time the security guard shows up, 666 00:31:23,366 --> 00:31:26,326 so do the medical professionals. 667 00:31:26,366 --> 00:31:30,076 Paramedics arrived. It was too late to revive Heath. 668 00:31:31,150 --> 00:31:34,430 Cooper: It is a grisly scene as he was taken out 669 00:31:34,466 --> 00:31:38,096 just a few hours after being found at approximately 670 00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:41,183 3:30 p.m. this afternoon. 671 00:31:41,216 --> 00:31:43,046 There was no suicide note. 672 00:31:43,083 --> 00:31:46,053 There were no signs of foul play. 673 00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:48,323 People were speculating it was drugs immediately. 674 00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:51,130 There were reports that a $20 bill had 675 00:31:51,166 --> 00:31:52,396 drug residue on it. 676 00:31:55,383 --> 00:31:58,353 And you're never really sure how much of it is true. 677 00:31:58,383 --> 00:32:02,123 Police are revising their story as more information comes out 678 00:32:02,150 --> 00:32:04,180 and as they talk to more people who were there. 679 00:32:04,216 --> 00:32:06,276 There were no illegal drugs found. 680 00:32:06,316 --> 00:32:09,296 There were prescription bottles. 681 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:14,230 There's been wide speculation that he may have overdosed 682 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,366 on sleeping pills, but it's going to be another 683 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,350 two weeks before we know for sure. 684 00:32:20,316 --> 00:32:22,346 He gave an interview toThe New York Times 685 00:32:22,383 --> 00:32:26,053 saying that he had chronic insomnia. 686 00:32:27,133 --> 00:32:30,003 In fact, he said, and I believe I'm quoting, 687 00:32:30,033 --> 00:32:32,053 "I was sleeping two hours a night 688 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:35,153 because my mind was just going and going and going." 689 00:32:35,183 --> 00:32:39,153 And so it was known that he had sleep problems. 690 00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:42,316 How he died, still a mystery, but remember, 691 00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:45,250 this is a young actor, just 28 years old, 692 00:32:45,283 --> 00:32:48,383 compared to Marlon Brando, Sean Penn. 693 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,230 Anderson: There was a lot of speculation and criticism. 694 00:32:56,266 --> 00:33:00,276 Why did no one call 911 immediately 695 00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:02,096 when there were concerns? 696 00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:03,353 The idea that it's not a reflex 697 00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:05,403 when you come upon a person who's non-responsive, 698 00:33:05,433 --> 00:33:10,323 you don't try to revive them and call paramedics immediately 699 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:12,270 is hard to comprehend. 700 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,170 Anderson: Why did Mary-Kate want to reach out 701 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,030 to security versus paramedics? 702 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 Lots of questions this morning surrounding the death of actor 703 00:33:21,116 --> 00:33:22,096 Heath Ledger. 704 00:33:22,133 --> 00:33:24,353 Investigators wanted to know, why her? 705 00:33:24,383 --> 00:33:26,003 What did she know? 706 00:33:26,033 --> 00:33:28,173 Banfield: They wanted to talk to Mary-Kate Olsen. 707 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,300 Astoundingly, she didn't want to talk. 708 00:33:30,333 --> 00:33:32,273 It has changed the question from what killed 709 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,100 Heath Ledger to what does Mary-Kate know? 710 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:47,400 ♪♪ 711 00:33:47,433 --> 00:33:49,223 Anderson: Two weeks after the death 712 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:51,380 that shocked Hollywood and the world, 713 00:33:51,416 --> 00:33:53,066 the New York City medical examiner 714 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,320 revealed how Heath Ledger died. 715 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:57,200 People wanted answers. 716 00:33:57,233 --> 00:34:01,383 So every day, we worked to try and get more and more answers. 717 00:34:01,416 --> 00:34:03,476 Heath died of an accidental overdose 718 00:34:04,016 --> 00:34:06,276 of six prescription medications. 719 00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:11,123 Roth: The New York City medical examiner eventually reported 720 00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:14,100 that Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose 721 00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:16,153 from prescription medications. 722 00:34:16,183 --> 00:34:17,253 Nothing illegal. 723 00:34:17,283 --> 00:34:20,353 No illegal drugs were found in the apartment. 724 00:34:23,183 --> 00:34:25,383 Hammer: There were a whole lot of drugs in Heath's system 725 00:34:25,416 --> 00:34:30,016 and a whole lot of drugs that shouldn't be taken together. 726 00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:34,050 Painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication. 727 00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:36,273 I mean, drugs with names like valium, 728 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,220 vicodin, oxycontin, Xanax. 729 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,100 Anderson: And these were strong drugs, 730 00:34:41,133 --> 00:34:44,073 and he combined them, and it was fatal. 731 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,300 Pinsky: Today when my patients die of drug addiction, 732 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:51,403 9 times at least out of 10, prescription drugs, 733 00:34:51,433 --> 00:34:56,303 and it is always the combination of benzodiazepine and opioid. 734 00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,333 And that is precisely what they found in Heath Ledger. 735 00:34:59,366 --> 00:35:01,296 Opioids suppress your respiration. 736 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:04,353 Benzodiazepines suppress your respirations, 737 00:35:04,383 --> 00:35:06,303 but together they do it profoundly 738 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,423 without you noticing it. 739 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:10,250 So when you go to sleep, you do not wake up. 740 00:35:10,283 --> 00:35:12,423 King: Heath's father released a statement on behalf of 741 00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:14,420 the Ledger family after the medical examiner's 742 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:16,230 findings were released. 743 00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:18,226 "We learned today that the combination of 744 00:35:18,266 --> 00:35:21,996 doctor-prescribed drugs proved lethal for our boy." 745 00:35:22,033 --> 00:35:25,473 Heath Ledger's father, Kim, issued that statement about 746 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,380 saying that this combination of drugs proved lethal 747 00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:30,116 for our boy. 748 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:35,050 The last four words of that press release are so sad 749 00:35:35,083 --> 00:35:38,383 and do show what this is actually about. 750 00:35:38,416 --> 00:35:42,276 An investigation was launched because they wanted to find out 751 00:35:42,316 --> 00:35:44,196 exactly who prescribed these drugs, 752 00:35:44,233 --> 00:35:46,083 where they all came from. 753 00:35:46,116 --> 00:35:50,076 I think whenever someone dies regarding any drug overdose, 754 00:35:50,116 --> 00:35:52,226 you want to dot your I's and cross your T's. 755 00:35:52,266 --> 00:35:54,216 Was he on prescription medication? 756 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,370 If so, were they the right doses? 757 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,070 Were they properly prescribed? 758 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,030 Good afternoon. I'm NYPD lieutenant -- 759 00:36:04,066 --> 00:36:06,366 Banfield: The investigation is going into full steam, 760 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,270 and they wanted to ask a lot of questions 761 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,230 of anybody who might know something. 762 00:36:10,266 --> 00:36:11,416 Chetry: New developments today 763 00:36:11,450 --> 00:36:14,070 in the painkiller-related death of actor Heath Ledger. 764 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,480 They did speak to doctors and speak to his former fiancée 765 00:36:17,016 --> 00:36:20,226 and speak to those who were close to him. 766 00:36:20,266 --> 00:36:23,146 And there was an issue, though, in speaking to Mary-Kate Olsen. 767 00:36:23,183 --> 00:36:25,183 [ Police radio chatter ] 768 00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:28,296 Mary-Kate Olsen got involved because when his masseuse 769 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:31,373 found him and he was cold and non-responsive, 770 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,020 she didn't call 911. 771 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:35,030 She called Mary-Kate Olsen. 772 00:36:37,433 --> 00:36:39,373 Hammer: Investigators are putting the pressure 773 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,220 on former child star Mary-Kate Olsen 774 00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:45,470 to answer questions about Ledger's mysterious death. 775 00:36:47,066 --> 00:36:49,416 And investigators want to know what Olsen knows. 776 00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:54,130 It took a while, but finally she released a statement saying, 777 00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:56,366 "I knew nothing about where the drugs came from." 778 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,030 In response, Olsen's attorney put out a statement 779 00:36:59,066 --> 00:37:00,396 this week saying in part, quote, 780 00:37:00,433 --> 00:37:03,353 "Mary-Kate Olsen had nothing whatsoever to do with the drugs 781 00:37:03,383 --> 00:37:06,203 found in Heath Ledger's home or his body, 782 00:37:06,233 --> 00:37:08,133 and she does not know where he obtained them." 783 00:37:08,166 --> 00:37:12,126 She demanded immunity before talking to investigators, 784 00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:16,226 and that only created more mystery, more intrigue. 785 00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:19,146 I will say of all the things that raises an eyebrow, 786 00:37:19,183 --> 00:37:23,023 it's the fact that she's reportedly asked for immunity. 787 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:26,130 Jackson: Now, they never got to speak with her 788 00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:28,066 because the federal government of the Southern district 789 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,020 just closes up the investigation. 790 00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:33,120 Cho: Federal Investigators have dropped their case 791 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:36,220 into how Heath Ledger got those powerful painkillers. 792 00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:38,150 In published reports, a law enforcement source 793 00:37:38,183 --> 00:37:40,483 says prosecutors have given up on the case in part 794 00:37:41,016 --> 00:37:43,326 because there's no, quote, "viable target." 795 00:37:43,366 --> 00:37:46,396 Velez-Mitchell: They never found out who prescribed all the meds 796 00:37:46,433 --> 00:37:49,253 or how he got all the meds, whether he got them online 797 00:37:49,283 --> 00:37:52,053 or he got them through some friend, 798 00:37:52,083 --> 00:37:54,103 but here's the sad truth about America. 799 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:56,403 You want prescription drugs, you can get your hands on 'em. 800 00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:58,373 It's not difficult. 801 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,130 Nobody will ever know exactly what happened in the hours 802 00:38:03,166 --> 00:38:06,446 before Heath Ledger's death because he was alone. 803 00:38:06,483 --> 00:38:08,333 And at the very least, he seemed like someone 804 00:38:08,366 --> 00:38:11,476 who, at that point, should not have been alone. 805 00:38:12,016 --> 00:38:15,266 Yammanee: The death of Heath is going to go into 806 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,120 the annals of history as a mystery. 807 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:22,050 I'd rather people concern themselves with the way he lived 808 00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:26,083 and what he did rather than how he died. 809 00:38:26,116 --> 00:38:27,276 He had an incredible life, 810 00:38:27,316 --> 00:38:33,366 and his light really burned bright, very brightly, 811 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,180 but not long enough. 812 00:38:35,216 --> 00:38:37,026 That's the tragedy. 813 00:38:41,166 --> 00:38:43,466 Arkin: And the Oscar goes to 814 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,230 Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight." 815 00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:47,146 Bragman" I remember when I watched the Oscars 816 00:38:47,183 --> 00:38:52,203 and he won, shedding a tear and just thinking how sad it was 817 00:38:52,233 --> 00:38:56,153 that he wasn't there to grab this moment. 818 00:38:56,183 --> 00:38:59,483 [ Applause ] 819 00:39:00,016 --> 00:39:04,196 Koslow: I was just thrilled, vindicated, you know, 820 00:39:04,233 --> 00:39:10,283 a real celebration of who he was and what he did with his life. 821 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,100 Bragman: But I'm not sure how comfortable 822 00:39:15,133 --> 00:39:16,323 he would have been in that moment either. 823 00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:18,450 I think there's a part of him that would have loved 824 00:39:18,483 --> 00:39:22,053 the recognition by his peers and a part of him that would 825 00:39:22,083 --> 00:39:24,303 have cringed at all the press he would have had to do, too. 826 00:39:24,333 --> 00:39:26,473 It's almost like you're trying to hide yourself, 827 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,280 and what bleeds through of yourself 828 00:39:28,316 --> 00:39:31,226 are the bits that make it on film, I guess. 829 00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,426 The rest is just there. 830 00:39:32,466 --> 00:39:36,226 It's me anyway with a wig and some funny teeth on. 831 00:39:40,216 --> 00:39:42,476 In the years following Heath Ledger's death, 832 00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:46,226 his father has crusaded against prescription drug misuse. 833 00:39:46,266 --> 00:39:48,296 He toldPeople Magazine in July 2016 834 00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:50,233 that Heath mixed a couple of drugs together with 835 00:39:50,266 --> 00:39:53,016 sleeping tablets, and he's gone forever. 836 00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:55,230 That's something we just have to deal with. 837 00:39:55,266 --> 00:39:59,166 But the reasons why his son took the lethal combination of pills 838 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,350 will forever remain a mystery. 839 00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:04,283 I'm Hill Harper. Thanks for watching. 840 00:40:04,316 --> 00:40:09,176 ♪♪ 68599

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