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Well, you know,
you learn more about yourself
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during times of adversity.
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You know, I use, you know,
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Jim Ryun as an example of a guy
who was a great talent,
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but when he first came up
against some competition,
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adversity, he quit
in the middle of the race.
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Well, I found out about myself
that I wasn't a quitter,
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you know, in Buffalo when things
weren't going well,
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that, hey,
I was still willing
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to finish the race
and work hard,
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and it just made me
understand myself a little more
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and what wasreally
is character, in the end.
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Hey, everyone.
I'm Hill Harper.
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And welcome to
"How It Really Happened,"
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in part two of our
O.J. Simpson story.
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With no conviction,
Orenthal James Simpson's guilt
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in the bloody murders
of Ron Goldman
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and Nicole Brown-Simpson
is in doubt.
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The question is, who did it?
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And in looking for answers,
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people turned to possible
culprits other than O.J.
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Was it the drifter
serial killer from Kentucky
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who wrote a so-called
confession letter,
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the career criminal
from Virginia
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who says he was offered money
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in a murder-for-hire
plot to kill Nicole?
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Or some even thought
it might have been O.J.'s
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oldest-born son,
Jason Lamar Simpson.
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Tonight, we explore several
of the most widely
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discussed theories that caused
some to begin to wonder
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who might have killed
Ron and Nicole.
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We begin tonight with
a murder investigation
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where speculation is fierce,
official words are few,
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and legal comings
and goings are plenty.
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All focus on the slayings
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of O.J. Simpson's ex-wife
and a male friend.
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HILL:
What we have is a female white
in the vicinity of 30 years old
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and a male white
probably the same age.
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Both victims,
Nicole Brown-Simpson
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and Ronald Goldman,
had been savagely attacked.
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Both dead on the sidewalk right
in front of the residence here.
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The criminal made a mess
of the crime scene.
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I mean, there was blood
everywhere.
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There was also a knit cap,
what appeared to be a knit cap,
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and what looked like a glove
at the feet of the male victim.
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Reporter:
O.J. Simpson in cuffs yesterday
and possibly in trouble today
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as police investigate
the killing of his ex-wife.
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This letter was written by
O.J. today.
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"I have nothing to do
with Nicole's murder.
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I loved her, always have
and always will."
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Mr. Simpson, in agreement
with his attorney,
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was scheduled to surrender
this morning
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to the Los Angeles
Police Department.
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[ Sirens wail ]
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Reporter:
Simpson, who became a fugitive,
was pursued by police,
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news people,
and hundreds of spectators
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over Los Angeles freeways...
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Cowlings: this is A.C.,
I have O.J. in the car.
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9-1-1 Operator:
Okay. Where are you?
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Cowlings: You got to tell police
just to back off.
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He's still alive,
but he's a gun to his head.
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Reporter:
...and eventually surrendered
to police at his Brentwood home.
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Reporter 2: Tonight, a beloved
sports star one moment,
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subject of serious
questions the next.
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The press whirls
on O.J. Simpson.
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Man:
Juice! Juice! Juice!
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Harper:
There are numerous theories
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about who committed
the killings.
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Detectives will tell you
that often
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when you have a spouse
who's murdered,
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their spouse or former spouse
is the one responsible,
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so they suspected
that O.J. Simpson
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might have been
involved in this killing.
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Man: O.J., can you tell us
anything, O.J.?
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Moret: A lot of people didn't
want to believe it because,
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let's face it,
he had crafted a public image
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that was impeccable.
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People loved him.
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Well, well-wishers have been
coming by O.J. Simpson's home,
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some stopping to place placards
on the gate to his driveway.
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One saying, "We love O.J."
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Another saying,
"Say it ain't so, Joe,"
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and another one saying,
"O.J. Is not guilty."
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People don't want to believe
that a guy that likable,
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that handsome, that charming,
that charismatic,
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somebody that perfect
can be so awful.
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In all, both victims
were stabbed nearly 20 times.
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Watts: Ronald Goldman was
a self-defense-trained person
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20 years younger
than O.J. Simpson,
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but he had
24 different wounds and cuts
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and scratches on his hands,
defense wounds,
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and the perpetrator
of that crime would've,
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I thought, had more scratches,
cuts or bruises,
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and when O.J. Simpson came back
in town,
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all he had on his entire body
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was just a cut on one
of his fingers on his left hand.
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Everyone
step back, please.
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Some people have their mind
set that O.J. Simpson
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is not guilty
in their head,
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and some people want to believe
there's another theory.
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Man: Please,
get out of the way.
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Velez-Mitchell:
Almost from the very beginning,
O.J.'s defense team
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presented this alternate reality
that O.J. Simpson was innocent
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and the real killer or killers
were out there somewhere.
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Man 2: Have you been told
you're under arrest, O.J.?
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Watts: We would hear
different theories,
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and different murder plots
and conspiracy theories
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came forward all the time.
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People are falling over
each other
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trying to claim that
they're
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[ Siren wail ]
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Reporter:
His capture in rural Kentucky
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was like something out
of a Hollywood movie.
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Glen Rogers is immediately
linked
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to the murders
of at least four women,
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including one in Los Angeles.
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Glen Rogers was a seedy
character, a drifter.
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Velez-Mitchell: He is a very,
very frightening guy.
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They called him
the Casanova killer.
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They also called him
the cross country killer.
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Well, how about the story
in "The New York Post"
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yesterday that the serial
killer
that you have under arrest,
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I think, for four or five
serial
killings may have done this.
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I mean, Rogers made
some interesting claims.
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Velez-Mitchell:
He claimed at one point
that he murdered 70 women,
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and he tells a friend of his
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that one of those women
was Nicole.
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According to Norman Pardo,
O.J.'s business manager,
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he received a letter from Rogers
from prison on death row,
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if you would,
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that states that he, Rogers,
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is the one that
killed Nicole Brown-Simpson.
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Ortega:
He came forward and said that,
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"Oh, by the way, I was painting
Nicole Simpson's house
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and decided that
I'd kill her, too."
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Alright.
Now, there's a story he painted
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a house two houses
away from Nicole's, right?
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We're doing -- that is what
"The New York Post" said.
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We're doing follow-up
on these issues right now.
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Velez-Mitchell: And after
the Northridge earthquake,
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he ended up in Los Angeles.
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He was a drifter, and he came
to be part of a repair crew,
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and so he then claims
that somehow he ends up
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with a painting company
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and is painting the outside
of Nicole's condo on Bundy.
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There's actually an hour
documentary about this case
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and Glen Rogers called
"My Brother The Serial Killer,"
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and it's narrated by
Glen Rogers' brother,
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Clay Rogers.
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I'm absolutely certain
that my brother, Glen,
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killed Nicole Simpson
and Ron Goldman.
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Watts: And the story goes,
according to Rogers' brother,
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Clay, that his brother
took a piece of jewelry,
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an angel pin, off the body
of Nicole Brown-Simpson
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from the murder scene,
sent it to his mom in Florida.
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Velez-Mitchell: Glen Rogers is
essentially saying,
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"Hey, I can tell you thatO.J.
didn't kill Nicole.
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II'm
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The idea that he had the access,
the motive,
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the opportunity,
and actual evidence
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that he did anything to Nicole
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on that night in June
is nonexistent.
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In a murder investigation,
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you go where
the evidence takes you,
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not where the bs takes you,
where the evidence takes you.
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There's nothing of
an evidentiary value
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to show you that Glen Rogers had
anything to do with this case.
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It's not his blood at the scene.
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Velez-Mitchell: Bill Wasz was
this convict, tough guy.
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He was a drug runner.
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Wasz claimed that he met O.J.
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and Robert Kardashian
at the Roxbury.
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Bill Wasz did play
a central role
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in one of the notable conspiracy
so-called alternative theories
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of what happened
to Nicole and Ron.
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Velez-Mitchell:
He was a mob enforcer.
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He was a guy who bragged
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about dangling somebody
upside down over a balcony.
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Bill Wasz claims he was offered
$1,000 to tail or follow Nicole
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and offered $15,000
to kill her.
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Velez-Mitchell:
He claims that Robert Kardashian
offers him $1,000
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to track Nicole,
to literally spy on Nicole,
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and follow her around
and find out
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what men Nicole
is hooking up with.
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Man:
Why did they hire you
to follow Nicole?
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They wanted to know who she
was seeing, who she was meeting.
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He supposedly kept copious notes
in a 10-page, detailed notebook,
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and it allegedly
contained detailed notes
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of Nicole's coming
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and goings to the gym,
hairdresser, lunch dates.
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Her going to school
with the kids,
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what she did around town.
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Reporter 3:
The O.J. Simpson case
has unleashed
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moment-by-moment action,
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questions that remain
unanswered,
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and now there is
a new tantalizing mystery:
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A mysterious notebook.
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It was found
inside a vehicle
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owned by O.J. Simpson's
girlfriend, Paula Barbieri.
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Barbieri, a model who
was out with Simpson
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on a date the night before
Nicole Simpson and her friend,
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Ron Goldman, were killed.
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So there's one thing
that's really in Wasz's favor.
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A forensic expert checked the
handwriting on this notebook.
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Even a handwriting expert
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who examined Wasz's so-called
diary book of Nicole's comings
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and goings determined that it
was Wasz's original handwriting.
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So it kind of shows that,
unless he's psychic,
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he was doing something
vis-a-vis Nicole
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before she was murdered.
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We sent a team down there and
spent some time with Bill Wasz,
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and they interviewed Bill Wasz.
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Man:
When you heard that Nicole
had been murdered,
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what did you think?
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I thought a lot of things.
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I didn't think he did it.
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To this day,
I don't think he did it.
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Now, I probably know
who did it, yeah.
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I wouldn't maybe know
the exact assailants,
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but I probably know
who is responsible.
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Bill Wasz was fine in
answering questions
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to a point where what
he says cannot be corroborated,
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and he says, "I'm not going
to talk to you anymore
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unless I'm going
to get paid."
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Sooner or later, you have
to say, "Enough nonsense.
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Let's get on to the evidence."
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If there was any evidence at all
to connect Wasz to this case,
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we would have pursued it.
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Velez-Mitchell:
Out of the woodwork
comes the Texas private eye
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named Bill Dear,
who used to be a cop
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and who loves to attach himself
to high-profile cases,
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and suddenly he appears
and says,
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"I know the killer,
and it's not O.J.
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It's O.J.'s son Jason."
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-Hi.
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Woman: Good morning.
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Here begins videotape number one
in the deposition
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of Jason Simpson.
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Moret: The nation was transfixed
by this case,
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but as the case progressed,
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there was a series of bombshell
revelations and allegations
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and theories that continued
to shock everyone.
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Velez-Mitchell:
Out of the woodwork
comes the Texas private eye
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named Bill Dear,
who used to be a cop
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and who loves to attach himself
to high-profile cases,
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and suddenly he appears
and says,
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"I know the killer,
and it's not O.J.
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It's O.J.'s son Jason."
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William Dear believes
that O.J.'s son Jason
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is the real killer
and that O.J.
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didn't kill Ron or Nicole.
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He simply went to the location
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and then decided to take
the fall for his son.
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I realized based on what I have
been told so far that O.J.
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didn't do it, but I believe
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he had to have been
at the crime scene.
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Jason Simpson was
a normal kid of a celebrity.
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He had some problems.
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Dear: When we checked his
criminal record,
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he was on probation at the time
of the murders for assault
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with a knife
to his former employer.
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A man named Paul Goldberg,
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that Jason struck
and threatened with a knife --
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Man:
You assaulted a man named
Paul Goldberg, correct?
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Yes, sir.
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At Revival Cafe Restaurant
in Los Angeles, right?
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Yes, sir.
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Jason had a storage unit
that he stopped paying for,
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and so the contents
of that storage unit
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went up for auction.
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Bill Dear is able to purchase
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the contents
of the storage locker,
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and it contains these diaries,
these diaries of Jason
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that talked about how dark
and how troubled
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and how difficult life was.
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He talks about, "It's the year
of the knife for me.
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I cut away my problems
with a knife.
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If anyone hurts a member
of my family, I will kill them."
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Lange:
At the time of the murders,
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Jason Simpson is working
as a chef
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or an assistant chef
at Jackson's restaurant.
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On the night of the murders,
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Jason was all set to cook
for the Brown family
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and Justin and Sydney,
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and his expectation
was after a recital
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at Paul Revere Middle School
that night,
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that they were all going
to come to his restaurant.
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The day of the recital,
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Nicole calls and says,
"I can't make it.
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I'm not going to go
to that restaurant.
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It's too expensive.
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We're going to go to
Mezzaluna instead."
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How did you find out that
the plan had been changed?
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In the conversation,
she said, "We can't come.
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It's just a little bit
too expensive,
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so we were just going to go
right up the street."
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I was kind of hurt.
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I wished they would've come
to the restaurant.
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Now I really wish they would've
come to the restaurant,
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but she wanted
to go to Mezzaluna.
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I interviewed several people
who were there that actual night
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and who told me that
Jason appeared to be very upset,
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and they attributed it to the
fact that she didn't show up,
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and then I think
whatever happened escalated.
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Moret: And the big question,
"Did he have the means?
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Did he have the murder weapon?"
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Did you have a set
of cooking knives?
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Yeah.
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And did you ever take
those knives off of,
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you know,
your work premises?
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All the time.
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Watts: Dear says that Jason
likely headed over
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to the Bundy address,
knocked on the door,
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got into a disagreement
with Nicole.
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William Dear claims
that Jason hits her
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with the blunt end of the knife,
knocks her to the ground
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and then turns his attention
to Ron Goldman
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with the sharp end
of the blade.
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This is a really crucial part,
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and maybe the most crucial part,
of Dear's theory
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and that is, he comes out
of that rage and realizes,
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"Oh, my God.
What have I done?"
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So William Dear claims that
Jason calls his dad in a panic.
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His dad comes to the house.
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That's what places O.J. Simpson
at the scene.
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Dear: We know that the knit cap
was found at the crime scene.
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But they couldn't definitely
say that it belonged to
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O.J. Simpson.
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Moret: William Dear says
that there's a photo
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in the storage locker
of Jason wearing a knit cap.
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William Dear says O.J. Simpson
simply wanted to protect his son
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and would even take the fall
for his son to protect him.
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[ Siren wails ]
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Bill Dear points out
that O.J. Simpson
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immediately hires
an attorney for his son.
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We checked the records and found
that Jason Lamar Simpson
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was never interviewed by the
Los Angeles Police Department
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because he was represented
by an attorney,
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and he refused
to cooperate.
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Lange: He did not want to
talk to us initially.
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We wanted to talk to him.
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He would not want
to talk to us.
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We cannot compel him
to talk to us.
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Rightly so, there are a lot of
naysayers to Bill Dear's work.
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There are a lot of things
that have to happen
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in William Dear's scenario in
a very limited period of time.
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It's ludicrous.
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Woman: Nearly 2 decades later,
some still feel
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O.J. Simpson
got away with murder.
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Moret:
William Dear has been fighting
for one thing for 22 years.
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He wants this case reopened.
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He wants a grand jury
to investigate this case
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because William Dear believes
that the real killer
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was never put on trial.
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Rightly so, there were a lot of
naysayers to Bill Dear's work.
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Moret:
Even if they occurred at 10:40,
there are a lot of things
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that have to happen
in William Dear's scenario
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in a very limited period
of time for Jason Simpson
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to have committed
these crimes.
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Dear's explanation is that once
he committed these murders,
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Jason called O.J.
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Ortega:
O.J. Simpson then puts together
this outfit with his gloves,
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goes out the back of his estate,
crawls over a fence,
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which is important,
because Bill Dear claims
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that that's when O.J.
sliced open his finger
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on his left hand.
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He puts on the gloves,
gets in his car,
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drives the 2 miles to Bundy,
arrives on the scene,
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is horrified to see Ron Goldman
and Nicole Brown
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laying in pools of blood,
pulls off his glove
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and only then,
when he pulls off the glove
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does it open up the left finger,
and then O.J. begins to bleed.
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Then O.J.
gets back in his Bronco,
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drives back to
the Rockingham estate,
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runs into the air conditioner
and drops the other glove
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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and finally gets back
into the house,
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and all that has to occur
in 12 minutes.
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It's ludicrous.
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Moret:
And the real question is,
do Jason's motive, means,
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and opportunity
really trump O.J.'s?
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The prosecution would say no.
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The police would say no.
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Most investigators will say no.
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Jason Simpson was an individual
we wanted to talk to.
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We wanted to interview him.
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He's the son of our suspect.
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He knew Nicole.
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He was in the area and that
he worked at a restaurant.
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We want to talk to him.
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It would be negligent for us
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not to want to talk
to Jason Simpson.
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He was not a suspect because
there was nothing to lead him
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to be a suspect.
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If you're going to entertain,
seriously entertain,
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one of these other theories,
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you have to disregard
all the evidence
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that shows it's O.J. Simpson.
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Reporter: Prosecutors say they
have collected
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about 60 pieces
of evidence thus far.
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They include blood samples
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and a sample of O.J. Simpson's
hair for comparison
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with black curly hairs
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found inside a cap
at the murder scene.
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You have to disregard
that totally,
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and I don't think
that's a good faith thing to do.
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I just don't.
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Everybody wants
a conspiracy theory.
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They don't want just the plain,
obvious fact that,
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hey, a guy was rageful that
his beautiful wife had left him
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and was starting
a fresh life.
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People are interested
in a good story.
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That's why we are still
doing this 22 years later.
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They're not interested in facts.
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There are no unanswered
questions in this case.
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Mr. Simpson is charged alone
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because he is
the sole murderer,
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and that is why he is
the only one charged.
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I think prosecutors
will tell you
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theynever
this much evidence
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pinning a person
to the scene of a crime.
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And it's part of the
prosecution's theory,
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if you will,
that O.J. was driven
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to excessive jealousy
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and that that was part of what
led to the explosive attack
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on the night of June 12th.
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O.J. Simpson
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was a jealous man
and forcefully so.
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Dispatcher:
911 emergency operator 461.
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When you hear Nicole's voice
on the 911 calls,
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you hear fear, pure fear.
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Not only has William Dear's
Jason theory
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been widely discredited,
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but according to the LAPD
and the prosecutors,
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O.J. Simpson's son Jason Simpson
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was never a suspect in the
murders of Ron and Nicole.
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Detectives say they wanted
to question Jason,
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but on the advice
of his lawyer,
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Jason exercised his right
to refuse a police interview.
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Various attempts were made
to reach Jason
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and his representatives,
but no statement was offered.
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O.J. has always insisted
he is innocent,
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and whether you believe O.J.
did it or not,
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there is no question
O.J. Simpson had a dark side
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to his character,
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and his ex-wife,
Nicole Brown-Simpson,
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more than anyone else
was a victim of his violence.
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Reporter: Until the killing,
Simpson's marriage
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had looked ideal
to outsiders.
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But police 911 tapes
revealed afterwards
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that there had been troubles.
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People see people
on television
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and assume
that they know them.
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Ever need to rent a car fast?
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Ortega: We've seen O.J. Simpson
in movies
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and commercials,
playing football.
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And that gives us the idea that
we know something about him,
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but we don't know anything
about O.J. Simpson.
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♪♪
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Moret: He was O.J.,
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and most people didn't know
about his violent tendencies.
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That came out later.
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Reporter:
Officers found Nicole Simpson,
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half dressed,
badly bruised, crying,
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and saying her husband
had threatened to kill her.
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Reporter 2:
Detective John Edwards described
a shaking and hysterical woman
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crying that her husband
was going to kill her.
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She collapsed and started
yelling, "He's going to kill me.
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He's going to kill me."
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Watts: He pleaded no contest
to spousal battery charges,
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and in typical L.A.
media fashion...
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This major thing had happened,
you know?
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...he went on
Roy Firestone's show.
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The day after this was over,
we looked at each other.
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We had, you know,
we had a fight.
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We were both guilty.
No one was hurt.
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It was no big deal,
and we got on with our life.
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As a matter of fact --
He totally downplayed it.
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He acted like,
"Oh, things got out of hand.
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Nicole and I got
in a little tiff.
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It was no big deal."
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Ortega: The people who were
in his life knew O.J. Simpson.
488
00:23:33,033 --> 00:23:34,253
What did they say?
489
00:23:34,283 --> 00:23:36,283
You know, that Nicole
was afraid for her life.
490
00:23:36,316 --> 00:23:38,296
Yes, Nicole did ask him
to come back.
491
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:41,003
She did try to put her family
back together.
492
00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:44,453
She was the classic case
of the battered syndrome,
493
00:23:44,483 --> 00:23:47,373
and she felt
that she could change him.
494
00:24:00,350 --> 00:24:03,470
When you hear Nicole's voice
on the 911 calls,
495
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,150
you hear fear,
pure fear.
496
00:24:07,183 --> 00:24:09,473
Estes: She was absolutely
terrified for her life.
497
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,370
I recognized her voice.
498
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,330
I recognized his voice,
and it broke my heart.
499
00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:18,376
At one point, Nicole was saying
that she saw someone
500
00:24:18,416 --> 00:24:22,216
outside her place,
keeping an eye on her.
501
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:24,150
I get there, and she says,
502
00:24:24,183 --> 00:24:27,223
"Someone was peeking
through my window.
503
00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:28,470
I think O.J. was stalking me.
504
00:24:29,016 --> 00:24:30,246
I think I saw O.J."
505
00:24:30,283 --> 00:24:34,023
Woman:
Nicole told me that he would
show up at restaurants
506
00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:39,080
or bars where she had gone,
and she had no idea how he knew
507
00:24:39,116 --> 00:24:42,346
she was going to be there other
than he must have followed her.
508
00:24:42,383 --> 00:24:44,283
I knew there were isolated
incidences,
509
00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,426
and that's exactly
what I thought that they were,
510
00:24:46,466 --> 00:24:47,426
and --
-The people in
511
00:24:47,466 --> 00:24:49,426
O.J. Simpson's life did believe
512
00:24:49,466 --> 00:24:51,446
that he was capable
of this kind of crime
513
00:24:51,483 --> 00:24:54,233
and that Nicole was telling
people she believed
514
00:24:54,266 --> 00:24:56,196
that O.J.
was going to kill her.
515
00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:57,403
Reporter:
She said what?
516
00:24:57,433 --> 00:24:59,253
"He's going to kill me, and he's
going to get away with it."
517
00:24:59,283 --> 00:25:05,383
♪♪
518
00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:07,126
Velez-Mitchell:
The limo driver, Allan Park,
519
00:25:07,166 --> 00:25:08,326
shows up at
the Rockingham estate
520
00:25:08,366 --> 00:25:12,076
of O.J. Simpson to get him
for the ride to LAX
521
00:25:12,116 --> 00:25:14,096
so he can go to Chicago.
522
00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:17,223
He notices no cars parked
on the street,
523
00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:19,180
and there's no O.J. Simpson.
524
00:25:19,216 --> 00:25:20,426
Toobin: The house is dark.
525
00:25:20,466 --> 00:25:25,426
There is no one answering his
repeated rings of the intercom.
526
00:25:25,466 --> 00:25:28,416
That suggests that O.J.
is not home.
527
00:25:31,366 --> 00:25:34,116
I believe Goldman came in first,
528
00:25:34,150 --> 00:25:37,180
and I believe
shortly thereafter,
529
00:25:37,216 --> 00:25:40,096
maybe right behind him,
Simpson entered.
530
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,423
The contusion to the rear
of Nicole's head
531
00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:48,270
could have been at a time
when she was struck initially,
532
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,470
perhaps with the butt
of the knife.
533
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,080
We have defense wounds
on the hands of Goldman,
534
00:25:56,116 --> 00:25:58,126
so as he was
getting slashed at,
535
00:25:58,166 --> 00:26:01,066
he was trying to
defend off the knife.
536
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:05,000
He sustains several wounds,
four fatal wounds.
537
00:26:05,033 --> 00:26:06,373
There's slashes to his neck
538
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,120
indicating he was still alive
at the time,
539
00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:11,070
so this went on for a while.
540
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,250
There are several of
these slashes to the neck.
541
00:26:14,283 --> 00:26:17,133
Then I believe
after Goldman went down,
542
00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:23,366
Simpson returns to Nicole,
who is 3 to 4 feet away,
543
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,430
where it appears he grabbed her
and threw her head back
544
00:26:27,466 --> 00:26:31,076
and sliced her throat,
nearly decapitating her.
545
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,250
Reporter: Jill Shively:
The first potential witness
546
00:26:35,283 --> 00:26:36,453
to be branded a liar.
547
00:26:36,483 --> 00:26:42,423
Jill Shively says she sees
a crazed-looking O.J. Simpson
548
00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:46,070
driving wildly
in precisely the route
549
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,050
that someone would go
from the murder scene at Bundy
550
00:26:49,083 --> 00:26:52,433
drive to his home
on Rockingham.
551
00:26:52,466 --> 00:26:55,346
Reporter: Shively said Simpson
was driving a white Bronco
552
00:26:55,383 --> 00:26:57,283
and almost got into a wreck
around the time
553
00:26:57,316 --> 00:27:00,246
that Nicole Brown-Simpson
and Ron Goldman were killed.
554
00:27:00,283 --> 00:27:02,073
Toobin: What gave particular
creditability
555
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,080
to Jill Shively's account
556
00:27:04,116 --> 00:27:08,176
is she said she was so startled
by seeing O.J. Simpson
557
00:27:08,216 --> 00:27:11,026
in this very
uncharacteristic way
558
00:27:11,066 --> 00:27:13,216
that she tried to write down
his license plate,
559
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:15,200
and she came up
with a number
560
00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:17,253
that was very close,
in fact,
561
00:27:17,283 --> 00:27:19,083
to O.J. Simpson's license plate.
562
00:27:19,116 --> 00:27:22,316
The problem was
that Jill Shively took money
563
00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:24,420
from a tabloid TV show,
564
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:27,480
and the prosecutors decided
that her credibility had been
565
00:27:28,016 --> 00:27:31,226
so tainted they couldn't
use her at the trial.
566
00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:33,246
You know, because of 3 seconds,
567
00:27:33,283 --> 00:27:35,473
my whole life has been
turned upside-down.
568
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,300
Jill Shively is one of the great
569
00:27:38,333 --> 00:27:42,103
what-might-have-been stories
of the O.J. Simpson case.
570
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:46,100
Reporter: 10:56,
limousine driver Park
571
00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:48,283
says he sees
a large black person
572
00:27:48,316 --> 00:27:50,216
slip into the Simpson house.
573
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:53,480
Toobin: As it gets closer
to 11 o'clock, O.J. Simpson
574
00:27:54,016 --> 00:27:57,296
answers the intercom
and says, "I was in the shower.
575
00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:58,473
I'll be right down."
576
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,330
He told me he overslept,
577
00:28:01,366 --> 00:28:03,126
and he just got out
of the shower
578
00:28:03,166 --> 00:28:06,996
and that he'd be out --
be down in a minute.
579
00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:12,273
There is an hour and 16 minutes
where O.J. Simpson has no alibi.
580
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,070
If you believe that
Allan Park saw
581
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,380
O.J. Simpson
arriving back at his home,
582
00:28:18,416 --> 00:28:21,366
that certainly fits
with a time line
583
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,450
that allows O.J. to go Bundy,
kill Ron and Nicole
584
00:28:26,483 --> 00:28:29,253
and come back
and make his flight.
585
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,070
Moret: We're in the midst
of a court recess right now.
586
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,180
In about 10 minutes,
the jurors will be brought
587
00:28:39,216 --> 00:28:40,376
into the courtroom,
and that is when
588
00:28:40,416 --> 00:28:43,246
opening statements
are scheduled to begin.
589
00:28:43,283 --> 00:28:46,403
I don't think anybody
really knew
590
00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,303
how big this case
would become.
591
00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:49,373
I certainly didn't.
592
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,350
[ Indistinct chatter ]
593
00:28:52,383 --> 00:28:56,023
This case was the first
major case,
594
00:28:56,050 --> 00:28:57,380
certainly of this magnitude,
595
00:28:57,416 --> 00:28:59,226
that had cameras
in the courtroom,
596
00:28:59,266 --> 00:29:03,046
and it created an industry
that we'd never seen before
597
00:29:03,083 --> 00:29:05,023
and probably never will again.
598
00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:07,100
The press area near
criminal courts building
599
00:29:07,133 --> 00:29:09,283
is a frenzy of reporters
and producers
600
00:29:09,316 --> 00:29:12,216
amid a sea of satellite dishes
and scaffolding.
601
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:17,100
♪♪
602
00:29:17,133 --> 00:29:22,273
Did O.J. Simpson really kill
Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman?
603
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,070
The answer to the question
is yes.
604
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,180
Watts: The suspect is black,
and the victims are white.
605
00:29:28,216 --> 00:29:33,066
But beyond that what role will
race play in the upcoming trial?
606
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:37,420
The O.J. Simpson trial came
at the very end of some racial,
607
00:29:37,450 --> 00:29:41,120
polarizing incidents
in Los Angeles:
608
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:44,250
Rodney King beating, 1991.
609
00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:47,123
Judge: Not guilty of the crime
of assault by force --
610
00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:50,150
Watts:
Following the "not guilty"
verdicts of the four officers
611
00:29:50,183 --> 00:29:52,333
charged in the Rodney King
beating,
612
00:29:52,366 --> 00:29:57,416
there was the 1992 L.A. Riots
613
00:29:57,450 --> 00:30:01,330
and the Latasha Harlins
murder case,
614
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:07,266
in which Soon Ja Du was ordered
to spend 0 days behind bars
615
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:11,220
after being found liable
for that killing.
616
00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,220
Reporter: They are still
outraged over judge
617
00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:15,320
Joyce Karlin's decision
not to send
618
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:18,370
Latasha Harlins' killer to jail.
619
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Woman:
We just have a judicial system
620
00:30:20,150 --> 00:30:24,300
that seems to work
in the favor of some folks
621
00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:27,223
and work against
African America.
622
00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:29,120
Reporter: Public opinion polls
have indicated
623
00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:32,000
because of race,
many African-Americans feel
624
00:30:32,033 --> 00:30:34,153
Simpson cannot get a fair trial.
625
00:30:34,183 --> 00:30:35,253
They do it all the time.
626
00:30:35,283 --> 00:30:38,183
They have a double set
of standards in America.
627
00:30:38,216 --> 00:30:40,216
Race plays no part.
628
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:44,270
Race is not an issue
in the O.J. Simpson case,
629
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:47,420
nor will we bring it up.
630
00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:50,330
You say on your oath
that you have not addressed
631
00:30:50,366 --> 00:30:54,276
any black person as a nigger
or spoken about black people
632
00:30:54,316 --> 00:30:57,376
as niggers in the past
10 years, Detective Fuhrman?
633
00:30:57,416 --> 00:30:59,026
That's what I'm saying, sir.
634
00:30:59,066 --> 00:31:01,246
People ask me all the time,
635
00:31:01,283 --> 00:31:04,223
"What were some of the key
trial moments?"
636
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,330
Number one was Mark Fuhrman.
637
00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:09,066
He was one of
the lead detectives.
638
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,030
He supposedly found
the right-handed glove
639
00:31:12,066 --> 00:31:14,066
at the Rockingham address.
640
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:17,150
He was a disaster
for the prosecution.
641
00:31:17,183 --> 00:31:20,173
Moret: You have the perception
that the police are biased,
642
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,180
and who do you have
as the star witness there?
643
00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:24,016
You got Mark Fuhrman, who says,
644
00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:26,150
"I've never used
the n-word ever."
645
00:31:26,183 --> 00:31:29,003
Judge: Anyone who comes to this
court and quotes you
646
00:31:29,033 --> 00:31:31,183
as using that word
in dealing with
647
00:31:31,216 --> 00:31:32,476
African-Americans
would be a liar?
648
00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:34,116
Would they not,
detective Fuhrman?
649
00:31:34,150 --> 00:31:36,020
-Yes, they would.
-All of them, correct?
650
00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:37,020
All of them.
651
00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:39,080
And it turns out
that he was lying.
652
00:31:39,116 --> 00:31:41,046
I just kind of paused,
and then he said,
653
00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:43,073
"If I had my way,
I'd gather up --
654
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,120
All the niggers would be
gathered together and burned."
655
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:47,400
So if he's lying about that,
656
00:31:47,433 --> 00:31:50,303
maybe he lied
about planting the glove.
657
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:54,383
Watts: Instead of it turning out
to be O.J. Simpson on trial,
658
00:31:54,416 --> 00:31:57,446
Mark Fuhrman became on trial.
659
00:31:57,483 --> 00:32:00,373
His credibility was on trial.
660
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000
The Los Angeles Police
Department's credibility
661
00:32:04,033 --> 00:32:06,323
was on trial.
662
00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:09,030
Mr. Simpson is a man,
663
00:32:09,066 --> 00:32:12,276
not a stereotype,
but flesh and blood,
664
00:32:12,316 --> 00:32:16,026
who can do both good and evil.
665
00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:18,276
Watts: Another important point
of the trial
666
00:32:18,316 --> 00:32:23,266
is Marcia Clark's inability
to control her witnesses
667
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,050
and really connect
to the jury,
668
00:32:26,083 --> 00:32:28,003
and then it all boiled
over one day
669
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,353
when she had Kato Kaelin
on the witness stand.
670
00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:32,033
Clark: Are you changing your
testimony now,
671
00:32:32,066 --> 00:32:33,326
Mr. Kaelin?
-No.
672
00:32:33,366 --> 00:32:35,396
Clark:
Was he upset, or wasn't he
when he talked about Nicole
673
00:32:35,433 --> 00:32:37,253
and her tight dresses?
674
00:32:41,433 --> 00:32:45,273
No, not real upset.
It --
675
00:32:47,016 --> 00:32:48,066
I'm going to ask the court
676
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,220
to take this witness
as a hostile witness.
677
00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:57,416
And he actually did the
prosecution more bad than good.
678
00:32:57,450 --> 00:33:02,370
The day nobody will ever forget,
when Darden had
679
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,320
O.J. Simpson try on the gloves.
680
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:09,030
Your honor,
I think that Mr. Simpson
681
00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:14,016
seems to be having a problem
putting the glove on his hand.
682
00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:16,430
And that was a major
turning point
683
00:33:16,466 --> 00:33:21,266
because if O.J.
wasn't a very good actor,
684
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:27,280
back in those 1970 movies,
in 1995 in the courthouse,
685
00:33:27,316 --> 00:33:29,426
he really portrayed himself well
686
00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:33,376
as a guy who
couldn't fit those gloves.
687
00:33:33,416 --> 00:33:35,226
Velez-Mitchell:
All along, the defense
was picking away
688
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:39,296
at the prosecution's case,
and then came closing arguments.
689
00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:44,233
So much of the essential facts
in this case
690
00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:47,096
are just shot through
with reasonable doubt.
691
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:49,283
If you were already convinced
that O.J. Simpson
692
00:33:49,316 --> 00:33:52,476
simply didn't have it
in him to do this,
693
00:33:53,016 --> 00:33:55,346
those closing arguments
would have sealed the deal.
694
00:33:55,383 --> 00:33:59,473
Somebody manufactured evidence
in this case.
695
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,250
There's missing blood.
696
00:34:01,283 --> 00:34:03,123
There's EDTA.
697
00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:08,030
There's questions, serious,
deeply troubling questions.
698
00:34:08,066 --> 00:34:11,376
And then came the closing
argument's finale,
699
00:34:11,416 --> 00:34:13,076
Johnnie Cochran.
700
00:34:13,116 --> 00:34:15,166
I'm not going to be
part of the cover-up.
701
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,250
That's what I'm asking you do.
702
00:34:16,283 --> 00:34:19,083
Stop this cover-up.
703
00:34:24,383 --> 00:34:27,333
Judge: Mr. Cochran, you may make
your concluding remarks.
704
00:34:27,366 --> 00:34:29,426
Cochran: Thank you, your honor,
Judge Ito.
705
00:34:29,466 --> 00:34:32,326
Good afternoon again,
ladies and gentlemen.
706
00:34:32,366 --> 00:34:37,196
It's been a long, long,
long road to get to this point.
707
00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:41,323
Whether or not you disagree with
the defense and their theories,
708
00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:46,050
Johnnie Cochran put on a show
with his closing statements...
709
00:34:46,083 --> 00:34:47,173
Cochran: Something's wrong.
710
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,180
There's a cancer here.
711
00:34:49,216 --> 00:34:51,376
Guilty?
Maybe not.
712
00:34:51,416 --> 00:34:53,466
"Maybe not" not's good enough
when you're talking
713
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,170
about somebody's freedom
for the rest of their lives.
714
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,280
...including that famous moment.
715
00:34:59,316 --> 00:35:02,276
O.J. Simpson in a knit cap
716
00:35:02,316 --> 00:35:05,476
from two blocks away
is still O.J. Simpson.
717
00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:07,296
It's no disguise.
718
00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:09,023
It's no disguise.
719
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:10,280
It makes no sense.
720
00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,016
It doesn't fit.
721
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:15,250
If it doesn't fit,
you must acquit.
722
00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:18,433
It was controversial
but masterful.
723
00:35:18,466 --> 00:35:24,416
♪♪
724
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:29,380
After 9 months and more than
100 witnesses, the verdict.
725
00:35:30,316 --> 00:35:32,276
Alright. Mrs. Robertson,
would you --
726
00:35:32,316 --> 00:35:33,326
Do you have the envelope
727
00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:35,026
with the sealed
verdict forms, please?
728
00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:36,096
-Yes, your honor.
-Alright.
729
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:38,353
Would you give those
to Deputy Trower?
730
00:35:38,383 --> 00:35:40,333
Alright.
Mr. Cochran and Mr. Simpson,
731
00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:42,326
would you please stand and face
the jury?
732
00:35:42,366 --> 00:35:45,276
Hill: I was in the courthouse
when the verdict was read,
733
00:35:45,316 --> 00:35:47,076
out in the hallway.
734
00:35:47,116 --> 00:35:49,066
Woman:
In the matter of the people
of the state of California
735
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:54,120
versus Orenthal James Simpson
case number BA 097211,
736
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:56,080
we, the jury,
in the above-entitled action,
737
00:35:56,116 --> 00:35:59,066
find the defendant,
Orenthal James Simpson,
738
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,000
not guilty of the crime
of murder
739
00:36:01,033 --> 00:36:03,353
in violation of
penal code section 187.
740
00:36:03,383 --> 00:36:06,373
-O.J.! O.J.!
-Not guilty!
741
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,430
Hill: Outside, the crowd reacted
with a lot of cheers.
742
00:36:10,466 --> 00:36:14,216
And one or more crimes of murder
of the first or second-degree
743
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:16,100
to be not true.
744
00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:20,073
And I could remember I saw
the families
745
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,370
of Nicole Brown-Simpson
and Ron Goldman.
746
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,280
It was such a horrible sight.
747
00:36:24,316 --> 00:36:26,246
Did you feel sorry
for the families
748
00:36:26,283 --> 00:36:28,183
when you came walking back in?
749
00:36:28,216 --> 00:36:30,076
-Very sad.
-Oh, that's putting it mildly.
750
00:36:30,116 --> 00:36:31,226
-Oh, yeah.
-Yeah, we cried.
751
00:36:31,266 --> 00:36:33,446
I mean, we actually cried back
in the deliberation room
752
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:35,123
because there was nothing
753
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:36,450
that we could do
to help these families.
754
00:36:36,483 --> 00:36:38,403
You know, they had lost
they loved ones,
755
00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:40,133
and somebody out
there had killed them,
756
00:36:40,166 --> 00:36:43,066
but there's nothing
we personally could do.
757
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,220
We had to -- and you just feel
a certain responsibility.
758
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:47,120
You're out there looking
at these people every day.
759
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:49,050
Brown: I was numb.
760
00:36:49,083 --> 00:36:50,483
I thought it was going to be
a hung jury.
761
00:36:51,016 --> 00:36:54,046
I did not think that they were
going convict him,
762
00:36:54,083 --> 00:36:56,233
but I did not think that they
were going to let him off.
763
00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:59,126
I see this, and I can see
a white backlash out of this.
764
00:36:59,166 --> 00:37:01,416
I was elated because I felt
that he didn't do it.
765
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:04,020
I just feel like my team
just lost the Super Bowl.
766
00:37:04,050 --> 00:37:05,270
-Celebrate.
-He's free.
767
00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,130
-Yes.
-After 9 whole months,
768
00:37:07,166 --> 00:37:10,376
and then we get this reaction
that we were stupid, illiterate,
769
00:37:10,416 --> 00:37:13,296
that, you know, they didn't
deliberate long enough.
770
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:15,353
How could they have gone
over the evidence?
771
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:21,123
Jury made a decision,
and I'm sure they had
772
00:37:21,150 --> 00:37:23,000
all of the evidence
to make the decision from.
773
00:37:23,033 --> 00:37:24,323
He's innocent.
Jury says.
774
00:37:24,350 --> 00:37:26,250
It's our system.
775
00:37:26,283 --> 00:37:28,073
[ Camera shutter clicks ]
776
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:29,370
Brown:
They had to use the race card
777
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,200
in order to get a guilty man
off, you know,
778
00:37:32,233 --> 00:37:36,203
and that still just
irks me like you have no idea
779
00:37:36,233 --> 00:37:39,023
because it was never
about black and white.
780
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:41,100
Ever a racial feeling
about this to you?
781
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:42,173
None whatsoever.
No.
782
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,230
So you never said --
when Johnnie argued,
783
00:37:44,266 --> 00:37:46,176
"Make a statement for black
people," that didn't move you?
784
00:37:46,216 --> 00:37:47,316
No, it did not move me.
785
00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,000
We're talking about a human
being's life
786
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,153
that's on the life here.
787
00:37:50,183 --> 00:37:53,053
I definitely believe
there was planting.
788
00:37:53,083 --> 00:37:58,223
The theory of planting was
very strong in my mind,
789
00:37:58,250 --> 00:38:01,280
so I definitely had a lot
of doubt about the evidence
790
00:38:01,316 --> 00:38:04,416
and how it was collected.
791
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:07,320
I have more black people,
African-Americans
792
00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:09,150
that come up to me now
and say, "You know what?
793
00:38:09,183 --> 00:38:10,253
We knew he was guilty."
794
00:38:10,283 --> 00:38:13,033
The prosecution
did not prove to me
795
00:38:13,066 --> 00:38:15,126
within a reasonable doubt
that O.J. Simpson
796
00:38:15,166 --> 00:38:18,046
committed those murders.
797
00:38:18,083 --> 00:38:20,103
Ortega:
I really don't blame people
798
00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:23,473
for looking into alternative
theories about this case.
799
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,300
Any other person, I think
prosecutors would tell you
800
00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:29,333
that they never get
this much evidence
801
00:38:29,366 --> 00:38:31,346
pinning a person
to the scene of a crime.
802
00:38:31,383 --> 00:38:34,073
The fact that he was famous,
that he was able to afford
803
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:38,170
such a high-profile,
high-priced defense team
804
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,300
and other things that happened
in that trial led to the result
805
00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:42,303
that's left people
really unsatisfied.
806
00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:45,153
They want to fill that void
and figure out,
807
00:38:45,183 --> 00:38:49,223
"Well, if O.J. did it,
why wasn't he convicted?
808
00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:52,170
If he didn't do it,
who else did it?"
809
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,270
Jason Simpson,
the eldest male child
810
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,320
of O.J. Simpson,
will read a statement.
811
00:38:58,350 --> 00:39:00,270
A statement from my father.
812
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,000
"I am relieved that this part
of the incredible nightmare
813
00:39:03,033 --> 00:39:08,153
that occurred on
June 12th, 1994, is over.
814
00:39:08,183 --> 00:39:10,173
But when things have
settled a bit,
815
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,130
I will pursue
as my primary goal in life,
816
00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,446
the killer or killers
who slaughtered Nicole
817
00:39:15,483 --> 00:39:18,133
and Mr. Goldman.
818
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:19,416
They are out there somewhere.
819
00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:23,000
Whatever it takes to identify
them and bring them in,
820
00:39:23,033 --> 00:39:24,423
I will provide somehow."
821
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:32,270
♪♪
822
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,130
O.J.'s legal troubles
did not end
823
00:39:34,166 --> 00:39:36,266
with his acquittal
in the criminal trial.
824
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:37,420
In a civil trial,
825
00:39:37,450 --> 00:39:39,180
where the burden of proof
is much lower,
826
00:39:39,216 --> 00:39:42,326
O.J. was held liable for the
slayings of Ron and Nicole,
827
00:39:42,366 --> 00:39:45,316
and he was ordered
to pay $33.5 million
828
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:48,350
in damages to the families
of the victims.
829
00:39:48,383 --> 00:39:50,173
The families say
they brought the lawsuit
830
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,380
against O.J.
for closure and justice.
831
00:39:53,416 --> 00:39:56,216
Now, in December of 2008,
832
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,330
Simpson was sentenced
to 33 years for armed robbery
833
00:39:59,366 --> 00:40:02,996
and kidnapping
over sports memorabilia.
834
00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:07,173
This bizarre crime raises
a final and striking irony
835
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,450
that the man who earned
extraordinary levels of fame
836
00:40:09,483 --> 00:40:13,123
from his legendary successes
in the game of football
837
00:40:13,150 --> 00:40:15,470
forfeited his freedom
in a bumbling attempt
838
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,320
to steal his own
football collectibles.
839
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:21,080
Thanks for watching.
840
00:40:21,116 --> 00:40:22,296
Good night.
841
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:25,353
♪♪
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