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- My name is Matt Blomberg,
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I'm a investigative
journalist in Cambodia.
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Four years ago, I was a
sports reporter in Australia.
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That was my goal in life,
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and then I came
here on a holiday.
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I didn't want to go home,
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so I applied for a job
at The Cambodia Daily.
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There's not much
professional sport here, so
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I got sucked into the world of
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corruption and
investigation and scandal.
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There's a lot of
different people
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using a lot of different
methods to try and confront
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injustices all over the world.
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For me, the most effective
way is with a pen and a camera.
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From Phnom Penh I was following
the story about illegal fishing
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and starting to get
little bits of stories
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about the lawlessness at sea.
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And then one day
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I heard that a
Cambodian man was killed
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in a clash of
Vietnamese fishermen.
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To where?
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Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah for sure.
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So I went down and
visited the village,
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met the widow,
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Then started, you know,
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poking around the villages
and asking questions.
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- Was there any justice
for the death of Auok?
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- The governors
think they are wrong.
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- At this point, I
hadn't seen anything myself.
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So I went and asked the
captain to take me out.
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It's a really volatile situation
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because there's so
many fishing villages
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who are all living off
the same patch of ocean.
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There's hundreds of boats
that go out every night.
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There's these fishing
communities all along the coast.
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The scale is massive.
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He says that all these
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boats with their lights off
are Vietnamese and that,
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this is Cambodian
water for a little bit more.
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So that's everything
off the sea floor.
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Everything.
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I watched them drag hundreds
of kilos worth of sea life
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onto the boat.
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20% of it is put into buckets
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that are going to be
sold at market later
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and then the rest of it,
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the stuff that wasn't
worth any money, just died.
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Their yields are down
exponentially every year.
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The yields are dropping
and dropping and dropping.
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It's a race to the bottom.
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The more villages I went to,
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I just kept hearing
the same story.
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There's no fish left,
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that the Vietnamese
had taken all the fish
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and that the local fishermen
are powerless to stop them.
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If you have a look at the
maps, you can see that
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Thailand in the west
and Vietnam in the east,
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their waters have
been fished out.
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The Vietnamese have
pillaged their own oceans and
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the fishing fleets from there
are moving into Cambodia.
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There's billions of
dollars worth of seafood
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exported from Southeast
Asia every year.
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And so, a lot of
people around the world
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are affected by the
things that happen here.
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In Cambodia, things
are pretty desperate.
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It became apparent very quickly
how serious this issue is.
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If this problem is not
addressed, it's only a matter
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of time before there's no
fisheries in Cambodia at all.
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Hundreds of
thousands of people's
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livelihoods are on the line.
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Through talking to the
fishermen down there,
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I found out about
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this vigilante British guy
who was living on an island
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off the coast and
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doing his best to try and
keep the illegal fishers at bay.
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So, I'm thinking to myself,
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"Who is this guy Paul?"
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- At least one set of
Vietnamese pair trawlers,
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First one,
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somewhere between
500 meters and 1 kilometre
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north of Koh Seh. Now we...
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- Paul's strategy
is to flood Facebook with
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live streams when
he's out on patrol.
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- Oh there
he is, throwing stuff!
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Live on Facebook! Here
we go, chasing the boat.
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- 90% of Cambodians
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see Facebook as their
lead source of information.
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And he knows that pretty high
ranking people are watching,
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- Okay here we
are, continuous offenders.
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- And that if he keeps
slapping them in the face
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someone will react eventually.
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- Guy's waving an axe at us.
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- The illegal fishermen
are notoriously violent.
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They go to work armed
with machetes and slingshots
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and homemade guns and
anyone who gets in their way,
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they're willing to
use those weapons.
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They've rammed boats,
they've sunk boats,
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they've launched
coordinated attacks even.
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- 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8
electric trawlers
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trying to ram our
boat right now.
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- Obviously I
was quite interested in it,
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so I went down
there looking for him.
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I also heard that Paul
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wasn't very keen on
talking to the media.
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His staff told me, you know,
he doesn't like journalists.
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The small one has all the
cameras and some stuff in it.
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How're you doing, Paul?
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My first impression was that
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getting along with
Paul will be difficult.
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What I wanted to do
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was to get into a position
where we can share information.
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- Nothing else to do.
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- But it took me a little while
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to even gain his attention.
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- I approached
him and sat down and
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slowly started chatting to him.
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No,
it's okay. We've done all the
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research we've
been doing it first...
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And I guess I won
his trust in the end.
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At the end, at the end.
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Yeah, yeah. It was
like, that was exactly...
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- At the very beginning when
these little seahorse trawlers
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came over from Vietnam,
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this was what the
bycatch looked like.
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So it was a really,
really sensitive habitats
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that hadn't been disturbed.
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So you've got, that's
a, say a 30 minute trawl,
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and they have
that much life in it.
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This is exact, almost
the same trawler
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and that's what they catch now.
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So the first one
was, I think 2008,
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so they get, and that will
be maybe a two hour trawl.
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It's pretty crazy how
little there is now left.
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But I've got to say,
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the Vietnamese ones
must be working hard..
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Matt contacted me
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and I gave him a bit of
information about things
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and we talked and it sort
of progressed from there.
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The other and he's like,
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"If I had this and
if I had this..."
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Twelve years ago, I was a diver,
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I loved the ocean and
I came to Cambodia
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to work as a dive instructor.
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It was a very small island.
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Just off the coast of
Sihanoukville, called Koh Koun.
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When the ocean
started being destroyed,
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no one else was there to stop it
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and I was there.
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There wasn't really a
choice, it had to be done.
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So, that was when I started
Marine Conservation Cambodia.
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- We started out to
protect the seahorses here
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and the more we started
to work with the community,
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the more we understood
how little fish were left
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and it became much more about
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protecting the community and
the whole marine environment.
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We worked on getting the
illegal sand dredging banned.
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We ran a clinic.
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We ran a small English
school, for the local kids.
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It was very successful.
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And the deputy governor
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basically asked if we
were interested in doing,
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in the ocean here in Kep,
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exactly what we'd done there.
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And so, we set up
MCC here in Kep,
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and then we began work.
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- MCC has a very
small area in front of Koh Seh,
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the island that they populate.
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- We have the conservation area
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that we've officially
been granted
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by the provincial government.
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- And it's surrounded
on three sides by Vietnam.
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- Essentially we really are
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smack bang on the front line.
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- This is the
border, right here,
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between Cambodia and Vietnam.
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This is our medium boat.
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This is the boat that
we go patrolling on.
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Phon is the captain on the boat.
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- We run the patrols
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to stop the trawling boats
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from going into the
marine conservation areas.
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Three electric boats,
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Clearly know
they're in the wrong.
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They're running from
our boat right now.
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- They also have an
extensive research program
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that follows the seahorse
populations in the area.
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MCC is a really
grassroots operation.
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Y'know they're all living
on a thread out there.
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For Paul, every time he
wakes up in the morning,
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he's risking everything.
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'Cause he's got his family,
he's got five kids and a wife
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living on that small
island with him.
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- Hello everybody.
- Hello everybody.
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- So can you give us hundreds
of money, all your moneys.
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- You guys love
being live, don't you?
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- Papa I want to
say something too.
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- What do you want to
say? What'd you want to say?
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- Whoever is
watching me right now,
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please help me to save
this island and this ocean.
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- That was so sweet.
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If we can protect this area,
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this tiny little
oasis of recovery,
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then we can expand everything,
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encompassing a much
larger conservation area
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called an MFMA,
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which is a Marine
Fisheries Management Area.
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And essentially within that
you then have zones that allow
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a breeding season to happen
without the interference,
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conservation zones,
which are entirely no take.
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If you've got the
conservation zones
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and they're fully protected,
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you have areas for
the fish to move out.
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First year you have no fish,
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then you have a few fish,
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because you have a few,
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you have a few
more the next year.
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Once it gets to a certain point,
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there's so much life there
that breeds and produces
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new offspring that it explodes
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and spawns other
areas of recovery.
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And research has to be done
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to back up everything
that we're doing.
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- So basically,
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after having seeing lots
of different individuals
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but without being
able to identify them,
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it's very hard to differentiate
different seahorses.
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So if you want
to be able to track
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the evolution of a single
individual inside the coral reef
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then we need some
kind of way to identify it.
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Today we have the
pink and the green,
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which hopefully will have
a good mark under water.
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Alright, let's go.
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- Amick leads the research and
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the scientific
side of operations.
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He is bringing in
volunteers and divers
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and scientists to help do
the monitoring of the water.
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- If we do the research to prove
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to the provincial government
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that the work that
we're doing is working,
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then we can take this
to the entire archipelago
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to protect all of the essential
habitats that need to be
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under the umbrella of this MFMA.
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Around 2008,
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Cambodia's diving equaled
what people now think of as
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the best diving
sites in the world.
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Where divers from all over
the world go to do photography
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to find the craziest critters
that no one else sees.
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The seahorse was the
thing that I enjoyed spending
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most of my time
in the water with.
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They're incredibly
beautiful to watch.
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Because of Cambodia's
recent history, the genocide,
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they'd been untouched
by industrial fishing.
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Seahorses were pretty
much everywhere.
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And then a few years later
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we had this huge influx
of Vietnamese boats
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targeting the seahorses
in the inshore areas.
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The trawling boats
were increasing
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and you'd go to a dive site
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and you'd been diving there
for six months, seven months,
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and you knew the
area, it was beautiful,
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and all of a sudden you go down
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just looks like someone had
just taken a bulldozer to it.
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There's absolutely
nothing left whatsoever.
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You've got bare
sand, crushed shells,
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half dead things everywhere
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it was just... it was horrific.
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They've got their nets laid out
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because they're
all the same flags.
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We started out
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and the illegal fishing was
worse than in Sihanoukville.
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Sihanoukville was bad,
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but here was pretty
much like the Wild West.
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They're actually illegal.
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All the boats work
with complete impunity.
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Yeah, so if you look at
the mesh size of this net,
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this net's actually illegal.
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You can get a look at the
size of the fish in this net,
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it's like a mosquito net.
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All tiny juvenile fish.
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One illegal boat
pulling everything up.
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Nothing escapes those nets.
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- MCC has managed
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to gain some kind of
trust with the government
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to be allowed to go in and
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tackle the illegal fishing
that goes on there,
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but they're walking a
very fine line between
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doing what is right and
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pleasing the people who
hold the key to their existence.
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- Anyone got a camera
that's got a good zoom on it?
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It looks like a 18 to 20
person Vietnamese IUU boat.
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We've got to turn around now.
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Basically the police
have stopped us
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from coming into this area
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and all these Vietnamese
boats know that
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and that's where they run to.
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- MCC is essentially
doing what the police
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and the fisheries are
supposed to be doing.
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The trawlers have operated with
impunity for at least 10 years.
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Bottom trawling is where
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they drop a net off
the back of the boat
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and inside the front of the
net are these timber sleds
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that drive the net down
into the ocean floor.
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And then the net is
dragged along the ocean floor
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for kilometres.
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And scoops and smashes
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everything that it passes over.
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- Oh, look
at all that sea grass.
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All the seagrass on that boat.
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That whole pile is seagrass.
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- When there's nothing
left on the bottom to catch.
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Then there's the
electric version of those.
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- Electric trawling is just
your average standard trawler,
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but they connect an
electric cable to the net
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that goes through a copper wire
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and then they send
a thousand volt pulse
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down into the water and
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electrocute
everything as they go.
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Anything that's
been electrocuted
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by one of those nets
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dies within 48 hours.
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And so, as they go
along taking all of the fish
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they're also taking
with it all of the habitat.
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So there can't be
any regeneration.
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Yeah.
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Here he is with all the
sea grass in the net,
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yeah, same guy,
he just doesn't care.
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- And then
there's the pair trawler,
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it can be nets
hundreds of meters long
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slung between two massive boats
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and then dragged through
swathes of ocean kilometres,
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it can wipe out acres of
underwater habitat in one night.
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The pair trawlers in
Cambodia come from Vietnam.
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This we know, there's no
Cambodian pair trawlers.
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- Vietnam pair trawler.
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That's Koh Puh
there, Koh Mak Prang.
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There's the two pair trawler.
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- It's the most
destructive thing
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that I've come across
within the ocean so far,
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so that's why it's
really essential that we
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stop the trawling bags from
going in to the protected area.
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- Are you going to...
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- You just wait, wait here.
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This is the idea of the blocks.
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We deploy them under water.
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The idea is to come up
to about seven blocks high.
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If it's seven blocks high
348
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it will weigh just
over three tons.
349
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The blocks have two
main purposes, which is
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to create artificial habitat
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and also to function as
an anti trawling device
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to stop the illegal trawlers.
353
00:22:03,554 --> 00:22:05,385
And we're mixing
them all by hand so,
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00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,082
we've made about 200 so far.
355
00:22:07,218 --> 00:22:10,020
This is our mixing
and making station.
356
00:22:12,363 --> 00:22:13,760
We can do everything by hand.
357
00:22:13,896 --> 00:22:16,130
We don't have to worry
about heavy machinery,
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high labor costs.
359
00:22:18,733 --> 00:22:22,306
We build with very
basic materials.
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00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:25,872
Essentially it's a very
adaptable system.
361
00:22:26,007 --> 00:22:28,441
- I just see all the
possibilities of this place
362
00:22:28,577 --> 00:22:30,644
and it's just waiting to bloom
363
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:33,747
and develop into
something incredible.
364
00:22:35,318 --> 00:22:36,750
It has to be all good.
365
00:22:36,885 --> 00:22:39,355
Maybe, one of or two of
you could bring a bench
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and you can
just sit in a circle.
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00:22:41,658 --> 00:22:43,352
Just a practice,
we do that for fun.
368
00:22:43,488 --> 00:22:48,232
We're going to discuss why
we think which fish is who,
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00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:50,501
the shape of
the fish, his color,
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00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:55,736
his behaviors help us
decipher what fish it is.
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00:23:01,678 --> 00:23:03,647
- Conservation is far from
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00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:07,677
anywhere near the top of the
agenda for most Cambodians,
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00:23:07,812 --> 00:23:09,453
but we met a couple of
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Cambodian students
over there doing research.
375
00:23:12,421 --> 00:23:14,051
- All right. What is it?
376
00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:17,461
- Yes. Very good.
377
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:54,927
Gold fish.
378
00:23:57,097 --> 00:23:59,197
- They're here
to do their thesis.
379
00:23:59,333 --> 00:24:03,970
And they are beginning an early
testing and monitoring program
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00:24:04,106 --> 00:24:06,872
for the block systems
that we'd like to implement
381
00:24:07,007 --> 00:24:09,678
for the MFMA on a
much larger scale.
382
00:24:19,489 --> 00:24:20,817
I've always thought this isn't,
383
00:24:20,952 --> 00:24:24,195
this isn't a job for foreigners,
384
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:26,427
it's going to be
Cambodian people
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00:24:26,562 --> 00:24:29,095
that make the changes here.
386
00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:32,470
They can do this so much
more efficiently than we can.
387
00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:15,578
- Vida and Rachana
are swimming against the tide.
388
00:25:15,713 --> 00:25:17,241
They will tell you
that their parents
389
00:25:17,376 --> 00:25:19,256
didn't want them to
get involved in this stuff.
390
00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:21,779
And they'll also tell you
that the university professors
391
00:25:21,914 --> 00:25:23,752
advised them against it because
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00:25:23,888 --> 00:25:27,019
it's just not seen as
a stable career here.
393
00:26:15,737 --> 00:26:17,035
- This is a good example,
394
00:26:17,171 --> 00:26:20,606
this story is a
absolutely flagrant abuse
395
00:26:20,741 --> 00:26:21,938
of the fisheries law.
396
00:26:22,073 --> 00:26:23,746
Hundreds of Vietnamese fishermen
397
00:26:23,882 --> 00:26:26,608
floating around in
these little cane baskets,
398
00:26:26,744 --> 00:26:30,053
taking hundreds of kilos of
squid out of the Cambodian water
399
00:26:30,188 --> 00:26:31,480
every single day
400
00:26:31,615 --> 00:26:34,817
and paying those who are
supposed to be stopping them
401
00:26:34,952 --> 00:26:36,185
for the privilege.
402
00:26:36,321 --> 00:26:37,859
It took us a few
days to find them
403
00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:39,300
because they're way
out in the open ocean.
404
00:26:39,324 --> 00:26:40,964
But when we did,
they told us everything.
405
00:26:40,997 --> 00:26:42,891
They told us who they
pay, how much they pay,
406
00:26:43,027 --> 00:26:44,560
and it all checked out.
407
00:26:44,695 --> 00:26:46,308
I haven't been back looking
for the Vietnamese guys,
408
00:26:46,332 --> 00:26:47,876
but I would bet that
they're still there.
409
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,432
I also would bet that
410
00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:54,742
this story caused some
problems for some people,
411
00:26:54,877 --> 00:26:57,208
because all these
guys are named.
412
00:26:59,577 --> 00:27:01,916
As a Western journalist,
you have to be very cautious
413
00:27:02,051 --> 00:27:04,217
with the way that you
approach stories because
414
00:27:04,352 --> 00:27:07,691
you have a completely
different angle on everything.
415
00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:10,992
You get people saying, you know,
416
00:27:11,127 --> 00:27:14,161
"What are you doing interfering,
it's not your business?"
417
00:27:14,297 --> 00:27:17,201
And, you know, there's some
elements of that argument
418
00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:19,665
that I can agree with.
419
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,399
But at the same time,
420
00:27:21,535 --> 00:27:23,969
a great part of the reason
why I do this work is because
421
00:27:24,105 --> 00:27:25,902
I've become so
attached to the country.
422
00:27:26,037 --> 00:27:28,041
It has become my home.
423
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:33,915
Thank you.
424
00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:36,214
I have a much stronger
connection to this place
425
00:27:36,349 --> 00:27:40,020
and these people than
I do to even Australia.
426
00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:46,389
And what happens here
does actually affect me.
427
00:27:47,898 --> 00:27:49,399
I know that I'm
privileged and lucky
428
00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:51,767
to be able to do what I do.
429
00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:56,499
And I feel like I have
a duty to use my skills
430
00:27:56,634 --> 00:28:00,810
as best as I can to try
to improve the situation.
431
00:28:22,094 --> 00:28:24,898
- How are you?
- Good.
432
00:28:25,034 --> 00:28:28,101
- And it's a
wonderful opportunity
433
00:28:28,236 --> 00:28:33,910
to have Matt here again
from The Cambodia Daily.
434
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:38,245
- I moved out to Cambodia
from Australia in 2012.
435
00:28:38,381 --> 00:28:42,752
One of the things that I saw
was the unsustainable depletion
436
00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:45,015
of the natural
resources of Cambodia.
437
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:47,021
There's great resources here
438
00:28:47,156 --> 00:28:49,419
in the forest and in
the ocean particularly,
439
00:28:49,555 --> 00:28:54,125
and they're all being
exploited improperly.
440
00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:57,735
Who here wants
to be a journalist?
441
00:29:01,466 --> 00:29:03,064
It's gotten worse
since last year.
442
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,967
- It's gotten worse.
443
00:29:05,102 --> 00:29:06,436
- Yeah.
444
00:29:06,571 --> 00:29:09,341
- Why doesn't anyone
want to be a journalist?
445
00:29:09,477 --> 00:29:13,043
- Because here for, I
think, for Cambodians, like,
446
00:29:13,178 --> 00:29:15,444
we see investigative journalism
447
00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:19,115
as sort of, pretty
life threatening.
448
00:29:19,251 --> 00:29:22,356
Like, it bars people from it.
449
00:29:22,491 --> 00:29:26,730
- This is like the class for
journalism in Cambodia right?
450
00:29:26,865 --> 00:29:29,329
If you're not here, you're not.
- Right.
451
00:29:29,465 --> 00:29:30,465
- Yeah.
452
00:29:32,169 --> 00:29:34,370
It's kind of not, not that
easy for Cambodians
453
00:29:34,506 --> 00:29:37,036
to stand up and say,
454
00:29:37,172 --> 00:29:38,967
"That's wrong"
and "that's wrong"
455
00:29:39,102 --> 00:29:40,574
when it is.
456
00:29:40,709 --> 00:29:42,143
If you do this job
457
00:29:42,278 --> 00:29:43,892
and it doesn't look like
many of you want to do it,
458
00:29:43,916 --> 00:29:46,282
but it's a really
rewarding kind of job.
459
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:47,510
It's exciting.
460
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,483
Organizations put together lists
461
00:29:51,619 --> 00:29:53,531
of countries that are most
dangerous to be journalists in.
462
00:29:53,555 --> 00:29:56,792
And Cambodia recently was
named the most dangerous place
463
00:29:56,928 --> 00:29:58,959
to be an
environmental journalist.
464
00:29:59,094 --> 00:30:00,624
Over the years
we've seen a number
465
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,097
of environmental activists
and political commentators
466
00:30:03,232 --> 00:30:06,837
murdered, some in cold
blood in broad daylight.
467
00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:10,969
- One of Asia's
leading environmental activists
468
00:30:11,104 --> 00:30:13,503
was gunned down in Cambodia.
469
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,847
- The local reporters
are much more at risk
470
00:30:22,983 --> 00:30:25,814
than we foreigners are.
471
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:29,055
Deleting a foreigner isn't going
to be swept under the carpet
472
00:30:29,191 --> 00:30:33,391
like deleting a
local activist can be.
473
00:30:33,526 --> 00:30:36,834
So in some senses, I
guess I often feel like
474
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:39,699
I have a responsibility
to the local reporters.
475
00:30:39,835 --> 00:30:41,801
If something goes wrong,
476
00:30:41,937 --> 00:30:43,499
I can pack my bag and go,
477
00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:46,305
but the local
reporters, they can't.
478
00:30:57,786 --> 00:31:00,022
- Oh, here we go.
479
00:31:01,821 --> 00:31:03,421
Morning.
480
00:31:05,728 --> 00:31:07,557
- Hot, sweaty.
481
00:31:09,398 --> 00:31:11,832
Chasing illegal boats this
morning on the way back,
482
00:31:11,968 --> 00:31:14,003
nearly didn't make it on time.
483
00:31:17,371 --> 00:31:22,078
- Yeah. that's
been my main work.
484
00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,509
I have the guys that all
focus on the research, but
485
00:31:25,644 --> 00:31:27,159
I tend to spend most
of my time with, on the
486
00:31:27,183 --> 00:31:29,381
sort of, legal
fishing and the IUU.
487
00:31:31,317 --> 00:31:34,156
- It's better but it's harder.
488
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:37,324
I've been on this personally
for around eight years
489
00:31:37,459 --> 00:31:40,058
and I was financing it
from businesses that I had
490
00:31:40,193 --> 00:31:41,798
and we can see the finish line,
491
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:43,334
we've just got to
this point where
492
00:31:43,427 --> 00:31:45,035
basically I've run out of money.
493
00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:46,680
I mean, I've sold my
land, I've sold my house,
494
00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:47,704
I've sold everything.
495
00:31:47,838 --> 00:31:49,502
And I'm now at a point where we,
496
00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:52,504
we basically struggling just
to buy the food every day.
497
00:31:52,639 --> 00:31:55,578
So we applied to the
conservation fund of Canada
498
00:31:55,713 --> 00:31:57,179
for an emergency grant
499
00:31:57,314 --> 00:31:59,614
so that we could basically
continue the patrols,
500
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:00,916
which was $3000 a month
501
00:32:01,051 --> 00:32:03,345
to cover fuel and
the patrol team
502
00:32:03,481 --> 00:32:06,021
and then an extra thousand for
503
00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:09,223
like, maintenance
and stuff like that.
504
00:32:21,769 --> 00:32:23,138
- Yeah.
505
00:32:31,812 --> 00:32:33,082
Oof.
506
00:32:58,069 --> 00:33:01,770
- I found out that one
Cambodian fishing village
507
00:33:01,906 --> 00:33:06,710
on the coast has gone
particularly militant.
508
00:33:06,846 --> 00:33:10,250
Prek Tanin, or "Shock
Village" as it's known locally,
509
00:33:10,385 --> 00:33:13,485
is just a few K's
from MCC's Island.
510
00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:16,453
And I'd heard that
511
00:33:16,589 --> 00:33:19,491
they've electrified
all their nets.
512
00:33:26,034 --> 00:33:27,835
See this blue electric,
513
00:33:27,971 --> 00:33:30,238
this blue wire down here,
514
00:33:30,971 --> 00:33:32,405
that's electric.
515
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,644
This chain runs around
the mouth of the net
516
00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:42,849
and then this electric current
is hooked onto the chain.
517
00:33:42,985 --> 00:33:44,518
They'll tell us that
518
00:33:44,653 --> 00:33:46,394
that electric wire is for
their lights and stuff but
519
00:33:46,418 --> 00:33:47,883
right here we can see that
520
00:33:48,018 --> 00:33:50,186
it's hooked up to the
mouth of the trawling net.
521
00:34:04,403 --> 00:34:05,634
They know that we're here
522
00:34:05,769 --> 00:34:09,375
collecting
information so that's...
523
00:34:09,511 --> 00:34:12,082
we collected the right
information that means.
524
00:34:13,846 --> 00:34:17,054
Getting kicked out is
always a good sign, right?
525
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:28,358
- Oh wait, you're together.
526
00:34:28,494 --> 00:34:29,763
- Don't show it.
527
00:34:29,898 --> 00:34:30,932
Don't show yet.
528
00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:32,564
- Aren't you playing Braiden?
529
00:34:36,433 --> 00:34:38,405
Okay, let's do it.
530
00:34:39,942 --> 00:34:41,474
Start the engine.
531
00:34:55,154 --> 00:34:56,589
Just be careful.
532
00:34:56,724 --> 00:34:58,636
There's something a little
bit strange about them.
533
00:34:58,660 --> 00:35:02,425
They have their light on
and they're signaling to us.
534
00:35:02,561 --> 00:35:04,667
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right here!
535
00:35:04,803 --> 00:35:06,033
Okay, let's bring it in!
536
00:35:06,169 --> 00:35:07,604
This way! This way! This way!
537
00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,198
Here! Here! Here!
538
00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:10,706
- Ah man!
539
00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:12,669
That kills my heart man!
540
00:35:12,805 --> 00:35:14,514
- Bring him out! Bring
him out! Bring him out!
541
00:35:14,538 --> 00:35:15,838
- He's dead already!
542
00:35:17,475 --> 00:35:18,674
- He's not breathe-
543
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:20,091
Oh yes! He
breathes! He breathes!
544
00:35:20,115 --> 00:35:21,448
- Get it in the ocean!
545
00:35:21,583 --> 00:35:22,963
- You got to go, you
got to go in there.
546
00:35:22,987 --> 00:35:24,315
- Come on.
- Come on
547
00:35:24,451 --> 00:35:25,559
- You've got to breathe, man.
548
00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,553
- Come on, you need to breathe!
549
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,858
- Hey, hey.
550
00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:32,428
- Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok. Bok.
551
00:35:32,564 --> 00:35:33,690
Bok!
552
00:35:33,826 --> 00:35:36,292
Come back here. We
take the net, you quiet.
553
00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,096
Small scale! Dude!
554
00:35:38,231 --> 00:35:40,270
Small scale! Bok!
555
00:35:40,405 --> 00:35:43,635
Alright. Take all those
needle fish off this boat.
556
00:35:58,251 --> 00:35:59,750
Come sit down
557
00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:09,397
- Was it a good catch tonight?
558
00:36:49,072 --> 00:36:50,371
Just take time.
559
00:36:50,507 --> 00:36:52,027
I'm sorry I can't
make it any faster.
560
00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:55,574
I'd like to make it faster,
but I can't. You know?
561
00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:57,907
Maybe he wants to
give his phone number or
562
00:36:58,043 --> 00:36:59,812
take the phone number
from one of you yeah,
563
00:36:59,948 --> 00:37:02,582
so when he hear the pair trawler
or the Vietnamese boats come in,
564
00:37:02,717 --> 00:37:05,314
he can call to us we
can inform or help him.
565
00:37:05,449 --> 00:37:06,586
I think is good.
566
00:37:16,895 --> 00:37:19,099
- Damn.
- Yeah we raised those fish.
567
00:37:19,234 --> 00:37:20,963
- Yeah we did.
568
00:37:32,142 --> 00:37:35,211
- Small scale fishermen
have been here since
569
00:37:35,346 --> 00:37:38,651
the area was repopulated after
the fall of the Khmer Rouge.
570
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:47,528
A large portion of Cambodians
still live in severe poverty.
571
00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:58,100
The fishermen who are scrapping
for their survival every day
572
00:37:58,235 --> 00:38:00,369
are left to kind of fight
amongst themselves,
573
00:38:00,504 --> 00:38:01,938
which is so sad.
574
00:38:15,857 --> 00:38:18,295
- Small scale
fishermen use methods that
575
00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:20,858
aren't that destructive
and are sustainable.
576
00:38:22,733 --> 00:38:24,895
But then you have the
illegal fishermen from Vietnam
577
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:27,629
and the electric boats
come into Cambodia
578
00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:29,130
and take as many fish
579
00:38:29,265 --> 00:38:31,902
as a small fishermen
would take in months.
580
00:38:46,853 --> 00:38:49,117
So the Cambodian
fishermen upgrade
581
00:38:49,253 --> 00:38:53,421
to using electric
trawlers, just to keep up.
582
00:38:53,556 --> 00:38:57,699
- I was having a discussion with
an illegal fishermen one time
583
00:38:57,835 --> 00:39:01,668
and I was sat on the boat
in all my righteousness of,
584
00:39:01,803 --> 00:39:04,966
"Your children aren't
going to have any fish."
585
00:39:05,102 --> 00:39:06,662
This guy turned
around to me and went,
586
00:39:06,742 --> 00:39:07,847
"Well, if I don't
catch the fish today,
587
00:39:07,871 --> 00:39:09,445
I won't have any children."
588
00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:12,480
I can't answer that.
589
00:39:12,616 --> 00:39:14,616
If you don't feed
the kids, kids die.
590
00:39:14,751 --> 00:39:16,711
He's not thinking about
tomorrow or the next day,
591
00:39:16,785 --> 00:39:18,520
or what these kids
will have in the future.
592
00:39:18,655 --> 00:39:21,853
So, it changed me and
it changed my mentality.
593
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,431
I absolutely adore my kids.
594
00:39:30,567 --> 00:39:31,706
I'm the luckiest
man on the planet
595
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:34,229
to have such wonderful kids.
596
00:39:34,365 --> 00:39:37,269
But, bringing up kids in
the world that we live in
597
00:39:37,404 --> 00:39:39,101
is hard. So hard.
598
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:45,740
Our societies are built on
so many of the wrong criteria.
599
00:39:45,876 --> 00:39:48,110
This all washed in today.
600
00:39:55,521 --> 00:39:56,752
- But I hope that
601
00:39:56,888 --> 00:39:59,321
growing up the way they have,
602
00:39:59,456 --> 00:40:03,796
they will all be advocates
and ambassadors of nature.
603
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:08,031
- Tiny little fish baby. Wow.
604
00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:10,638
- They're interested in nature.
605
00:40:10,773 --> 00:40:13,671
They're interesting
in how nature works.
606
00:40:13,806 --> 00:40:16,479
They ask all the
right questions.
607
00:40:21,179 --> 00:40:23,117
- Sometimes the kids
ask me questions that
608
00:40:23,253 --> 00:40:24,586
properly make me cry
609
00:40:24,721 --> 00:40:26,423
because I don't have
an answer for them.
610
00:40:35,732 --> 00:40:38,667
- But I hope that
they will realize that
611
00:40:38,802 --> 00:40:42,668
our natural world is more
important than anything
612
00:40:42,804 --> 00:40:46,740
because without
it, what do we have?
613
00:40:49,746 --> 00:40:52,481
My kids make me feel
like I have to continue
614
00:40:52,617 --> 00:40:55,245
Like, I have to be
an example to them.
615
00:41:08,891 --> 00:41:10,797
- Happy New Year!
616
00:41:24,781 --> 00:41:27,815
- We want to
conserve the environment
617
00:41:27,950 --> 00:41:31,213
and at the same time we
want to bring some culture,
618
00:41:31,348 --> 00:41:34,117
Cambodian culture,
into the conservation.
619
00:42:05,751 --> 00:42:07,682
- Guys go! 1, 2, 3!
620
00:42:24,705 --> 00:42:26,600
- I want to see it recover.
621
00:42:26,736 --> 00:42:30,344
I want to see happy long-tail
fishermen fishing legally,
622
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,878
catching great big crabs.
623
00:42:33,013 --> 00:42:34,493
I want to see the
little communities
624
00:42:34,517 --> 00:42:35,882
becoming communities again
625
00:42:36,017 --> 00:42:37,423
where they don't have
to move away to get jobs
626
00:42:37,447 --> 00:42:39,754
where they can just
go into the ocean.
627
00:42:41,289 --> 00:42:45,155
I want to go diving and see
the stuff that should be there.
628
00:42:46,762 --> 00:42:48,102
I want to see blue
water every day
629
00:42:48,126 --> 00:42:49,830
cause it's not
foul and disgusting
630
00:42:49,965 --> 00:42:52,734
from being dragged
up with the trawlers.
631
00:42:53,931 --> 00:42:56,001
It could be beautiful.
632
00:42:57,275 --> 00:42:59,169
It was beautiful once.
633
00:43:12,884 --> 00:43:14,789
- We've got 25 minutes.
634
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:25,966
For years I'd heard that
635
00:43:26,101 --> 00:43:28,537
the Vietnamese pair
trawlers fishing in Cambodia
636
00:43:28,673 --> 00:43:31,300
come from the
island of Phu Quoc,
637
00:43:31,435 --> 00:43:33,770
which on a map appears
to be in Cambodian water
638
00:43:33,906 --> 00:43:36,008
but is in fact Vietnamese.
639
00:43:37,774 --> 00:43:40,881
So, I wanted to see what
was actually happening there.
640
00:43:48,651 --> 00:43:51,058
And there's a lot of strange
underwater creatures
641
00:43:51,194 --> 00:43:54,994
for sale there that you can
pick out of a tank and then eat.
642
00:43:56,233 --> 00:43:57,759
What's that guy?
643
00:43:57,894 --> 00:43:58,928
Shark, yeah?
644
00:43:59,064 --> 00:44:02,134
Kinda looks like a reef shark.
645
00:44:02,269 --> 00:44:05,103
Come have a look at the
colors on these Stingrays.
646
00:44:08,073 --> 00:44:10,137
- You want to take a picture?
647
00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:12,341
- Eco tours, hey?
- Yeah.
648
00:44:12,477 --> 00:44:15,347
- So can you do a tour
into the ocean or not?
649
00:44:15,482 --> 00:44:16,752
- Nah.
650
00:44:21,686 --> 00:44:23,088
- Why?
651
00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:26,389
- Overfishing? Really?
652
00:44:26,524 --> 00:44:29,358
You know about the
fishermen going into Cambodia?
653
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:40,939
- Wow.
654
00:44:41,074 --> 00:44:42,474
- Yeah we just
get in the evening.
655
00:44:42,546 --> 00:44:43,978
- From the boat?
- Yes...
656
00:44:44,113 --> 00:44:46,480
- Okay. and they go to
the, across the river here?
657
00:44:46,615 --> 00:44:48,350
- Yes from the ocean.
658
00:44:48,486 --> 00:44:50,247
- I want to see the boat.
659
00:44:50,382 --> 00:44:52,652
When the boat comes
back to the village.
660
00:44:52,787 --> 00:44:54,123
What would be a good time to go?
661
00:44:54,258 --> 00:44:55,258
- Morning.
662
00:44:55,292 --> 00:44:56,350
- Morning?
663
00:44:56,486 --> 00:44:58,224
Oh, they come
back in the morning.
664
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,264
- They come back in the morning
after they catch the fish.
665
00:45:01,399 --> 00:45:02,399
- Okay, good luck man.
666
00:45:02,432 --> 00:45:03,432
I'll see you.
667
00:45:03,531 --> 00:45:04,998
Thank you.
668
00:45:25,722 --> 00:45:28,725
These things are slowly dying.
669
00:45:31,087 --> 00:45:32,960
Pregnant seahorse.
670
00:45:34,464 --> 00:45:35,831
Big fella too.
671
00:45:50,009 --> 00:45:51,673
I found a fishing village
672
00:45:51,809 --> 00:45:56,280
that is said to be the hub
for the giant pair trawlers.
673
00:46:03,593 --> 00:46:05,388
Oh yeah, there it is.
674
00:47:04,316 --> 00:47:07,215
- One boat fishes,
one brings ice.
675
00:47:07,351 --> 00:47:09,452
One fishes and one brings ice.
676
00:47:14,992 --> 00:47:19,165
Those guys on the second boat
over: "No photos, no photos."
677
00:47:26,773 --> 00:47:28,240
How are you man?
678
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:40,318
You can see the
size of the nets.
679
00:47:41,553 --> 00:47:45,587
Hundreds and hundreds
of meters worth of nets.
680
00:47:51,002 --> 00:47:52,795
One of these boats
can come into Cambodia
681
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:57,368
and take as many fish as a small
trawler would take in months.
682
00:48:03,641 --> 00:48:06,916
It's industrial fishing
on a large scale.
683
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:26,299
Cambodians and Vietnamese,
684
00:48:26,434 --> 00:48:30,467
they're not competing
on a level playing field.
685
00:48:33,075 --> 00:48:35,471
These commercial
scale trawlers are
686
00:48:35,606 --> 00:48:37,938
undoubtedly coming
across the border
687
00:48:38,074 --> 00:48:42,284
and harvesting millions of
dollars worth of Cambodian fish
688
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:46,956
that subsistence fishermen in
Cambodia need just to get by.
689
00:48:49,722 --> 00:48:51,992
Which is why the trawlers
of Prek Tanin in Cambodia
690
00:48:52,127 --> 00:48:54,327
have wired their
nets with electric
691
00:48:54,462 --> 00:48:58,330
because there's simply
nothing left for them to catch.
692
00:50:29,524 --> 00:50:34,591
We're managing to prove
that the blocks are working.
693
00:50:36,794 --> 00:50:40,397
The next step is for the
MFMA to be agreed upon
694
00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:43,270
by all of the different
stakeholders,
695
00:50:43,405 --> 00:50:45,437
the local fishing
communities, fishers,
696
00:50:45,572 --> 00:50:47,638
various different
levels of government,
697
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:51,912
which then allows us to
continue to do work on the plan.
698
00:50:52,048 --> 00:50:54,048
- But now I'm working for Paul
699
00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,746
on communication
with the communities
700
00:50:56,882 --> 00:51:03,059
and the fishermen about
the MFMA and it's really good.
701
00:52:26,244 --> 00:52:27,905
- More than this?
- Yeah, more than this,
702
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,275
Yeah.
703
00:52:29,411 --> 00:52:30,718
Do you know who's
making them now?
704
00:52:30,742 --> 00:52:32,676
Are they buying
them from Vietnam or
705
00:52:32,811 --> 00:52:34,651
other people in Cambodia
are you making them?
706
00:52:34,678 --> 00:52:36,915
- Vietnam
- Vietnam sir.
707
00:52:37,051 --> 00:52:38,282
- Do you ever,
708
00:52:38,418 --> 00:52:39,492
the fishermen that you arrest
709
00:52:39,516 --> 00:52:41,223
do they ever get angry?
710
00:52:52,170 --> 00:52:54,265
The head of the
Kampot fisheries, Sorin,
711
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,205
he's one of these new breed
712
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,071
of officials who have
come into government
713
00:52:58,206 --> 00:52:59,538
looking to concentrate on issues
714
00:52:59,673 --> 00:53:02,171
that just haven't been a
focus for the government
715
00:53:02,307 --> 00:53:03,773
in years past.
716
00:53:13,951 --> 00:53:17,484
- The fisheries are
almost fatally hamstrung
717
00:53:17,620 --> 00:53:19,393
by a lack of resources,
718
00:53:19,529 --> 00:53:23,694
which kind of leaves a
gap for people like Paul.
719
00:53:25,060 --> 00:53:28,134
- So, this was our
original request,
720
00:53:28,269 --> 00:53:30,138
so it was four different zones,
721
00:53:30,274 --> 00:53:32,335
which equaled
out to 5 kilometers
722
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,703
away from the islands.
723
00:53:34,839 --> 00:53:36,873
We've got this
conservation area agreed
724
00:53:37,008 --> 00:53:39,481
but we making it square
so it makes it slightly bigger.
725
00:53:39,617 --> 00:53:40,810
- Yeah.
726
00:53:40,945 --> 00:53:42,559
- The Koh Pu and Mak
Prang one we cut down,
727
00:53:42,583 --> 00:53:44,781
which covers the
seagrass and Mak Prang,
728
00:53:44,916 --> 00:53:46,822
We're talking about
70 square kilometers
729
00:53:46,958 --> 00:53:48,523
- Okay.
- Together.
730
00:53:48,659 --> 00:53:51,030
- And you get four islands in...
- We get four islands in yeah.
731
00:53:51,054 --> 00:53:52,923
Four islands with Koh
Seh and Mak Prang.
732
00:53:53,059 --> 00:53:56,830
- Things can move really, really
slowly in Cambodian bureaucracy.
733
00:53:56,965 --> 00:53:58,096
- Oh yeah. Cool.
734
00:53:58,232 --> 00:53:59,665
So that's the idea.
735
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,247
It will still has to go
through the consultations
736
00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:02,663
so it will change
slightly but...
737
00:54:02,798 --> 00:54:06,374
so yeah, got to get it done now.
738
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,254
- We were able to publish
a number of stories about
739
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:21,963
conservation and
destruction of the ocean
740
00:54:21,987 --> 00:54:24,887
which is something that
hadn't been written about a lot.
741
00:54:26,994 --> 00:54:30,795
- My work and Paul's work I
guess kind of work together.
742
00:54:30,931 --> 00:54:33,009
Paul does something and
then I write a story about it
743
00:54:33,033 --> 00:54:35,867
and then we publish it and
then more people know about it.
744
00:54:36,002 --> 00:54:40,502
And their story is slowly
starting to get out there.
745
00:54:40,638 --> 00:54:41,647
I suppose it was seahorses
746
00:54:41,671 --> 00:54:42,703
that started everything.
747
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:44,045
I spent a long time with them.
748
00:54:44,181 --> 00:54:45,745
They sort of get to know you,
749
00:54:45,881 --> 00:54:48,283
you can spend a long time
photographing and videoing them.
750
00:54:48,418 --> 00:54:50,418
I developed a sort
of relationship...
751
00:55:16,373 --> 00:55:18,378
- Mmh
752
00:55:18,514 --> 00:55:20,109
It was really, really
hard to choose,
753
00:55:20,245 --> 00:55:24,484
like between something that
was chunky, heavy, and solid
754
00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:28,522
or something that
was like light and fast.
755
00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:32,058
Its looking very, very nice.
756
00:55:32,194 --> 00:55:33,386
It's beautiful isn't it?
757
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,033
- So you can just
drive it straight
758
00:55:38,168 --> 00:55:39,288
into some of these trawlers.
759
00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:42,107
- But they've done
a beautiful job.
760
00:55:42,164 --> 00:55:45,936
They got a little
bit on the front.
761
00:55:46,071 --> 00:55:48,476
The International
Conservation Fund of Canada
762
00:55:48,612 --> 00:55:52,040
managed to supply
funds to buy a speed boat.
763
00:55:53,413 --> 00:55:55,077
Who knows about this?
764
00:55:55,212 --> 00:55:58,352
- Up until a couple of days
ago, absolutely no one.
765
00:55:58,488 --> 00:56:01,749
Now, Sorin and
all his team know,
766
00:56:01,885 --> 00:56:03,625
they've seen all the pictures.
767
00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:04,793
Pardon?
768
00:56:04,928 --> 00:56:06,120
This one?
769
00:56:06,255 --> 00:56:07,855
Yeah, yeah, they're
going to change that.
770
00:56:14,566 --> 00:56:16,999
- Hey, Sorin.
771
00:57:09,391 --> 00:57:11,724
- Tie that boat, bring it back.
772
00:57:29,374 --> 00:57:32,108
Heading straight in towards
us, now he's see our boat coming
773
00:57:32,243 --> 00:57:34,243
he's turned around he's
try to run back to Vietnam.
774
00:57:55,732 --> 00:57:58,303
Good job, dad!
775
00:57:58,439 --> 00:57:59,807
- You want to go on?
776
00:57:59,943 --> 00:58:01,039
- Yeah!
777
00:58:01,175 --> 00:58:02,208
- Okay.
778
00:58:02,343 --> 00:58:04,645
- I'm going first!
779
00:58:13,189 --> 00:58:14,419
I don't know,
780
00:58:14,554 --> 00:58:18,120
I think it was out...
781
00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:21,629
The success that we're
seeing is quite amazing.
782
00:58:23,063 --> 00:58:25,601
These boats that have
been able to come in here
783
00:58:25,736 --> 00:58:28,301
for many, many years
and do whatever they like,
784
00:58:28,437 --> 00:58:31,432
and now there's a defense
785
00:58:31,568 --> 00:58:36,138
and this means that the pressure
for illegal fishers is huge.
786
00:58:43,919 --> 00:58:46,753
Okay, Paul, it's recording.
787
00:59:28,526 --> 00:59:32,232
Recently, we've seen that
the illegal fishers themselves
788
00:59:32,368 --> 00:59:34,295
are exceedingly violent.
789
00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:45,707
The success that
we've had is resulting
790
00:59:45,843 --> 00:59:47,847
for sure in a backlash.
791
00:59:55,888 --> 00:59:58,021
They really need
to get rid of us
792
00:59:58,157 --> 01:00:00,961
because what we're
doing is successful.
793
01:00:01,097 --> 01:00:04,758
Okay, there's about seven or
eight boats from Prek Tanin,
794
01:00:04,893 --> 01:00:06,933
chasing us here.
795
01:00:07,069 --> 01:00:08,913
You see them all. You
hear the noises this is all
796
01:00:08,937 --> 01:00:12,040
the boats chasing
behind, throwing rocks.
797
01:00:12,175 --> 01:00:13,338
- Hold on!
798
01:00:19,442 --> 01:00:22,944
We're just 2 boats
up against fucking 10.
799
01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:24,950
They're fucking everywhere.
800
01:00:29,458 --> 01:00:31,220
We're being attacked.
801
01:00:57,381 --> 01:01:00,148
I've always thought that
when things are wrong
802
01:01:00,284 --> 01:01:01,764
and nobody does
anything about them,
803
01:01:01,788 --> 01:01:04,055
they just continue to be wrong.
804
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:06,154
You have to stand up
at that point and say,
805
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:09,258
"Right, no, I'm
not taking this."
806
01:01:18,768 --> 01:01:20,104
Alright.
807
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:22,710
What I'm gonna do
now is I'm at the pier
808
01:01:22,845 --> 01:01:25,272
and I'm going to
go and drive across
809
01:01:25,407 --> 01:01:27,547
to show just how
easy it is to find
810
01:01:27,682 --> 01:01:29,278
where the electric trawlers are.
811
01:01:29,414 --> 01:01:31,127
And the fact that they've
come into our area now
812
01:01:31,151 --> 01:01:33,346
three nights running
almost all night.
813
01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:35,384
Plus we've got
dead dolphins again.
814
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,024
I'm going to show you
how easy it is to find them.
815
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:41,654
So right now I'm going
to turn the camera around.
816
01:01:41,790 --> 01:01:45,829
You don't have to be
awake all night chasing boats,
817
01:01:45,964 --> 01:01:48,197
spending lots of fuel and time.
818
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:52,134
What we can do, or
what anybody can do,
819
01:01:52,270 --> 01:01:53,834
is just wait for them
where they are.
820
01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:55,369
Yeah? - Yeah.
821
01:01:55,504 --> 01:01:57,574
- Four years and
they still operate.
822
01:01:57,709 --> 01:01:58,709
They get caught,
823
01:01:58,745 --> 01:02:00,344
the gear gets taken off,
824
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,456
somehow a lot of that gear
actually gets returned to them
825
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,951
and that thing really,
really frustrates me.
826
01:02:05,086 --> 01:02:08,388
I do not understand
how they can be caught,
827
01:02:08,524 --> 01:02:09,990
the gear is confiscated,
828
01:02:10,125 --> 01:02:12,287
and then the same boats
are out with the same gear.
829
01:02:12,422 --> 01:02:14,093
We've even marked
some of that gear
830
01:02:14,229 --> 01:02:17,561
and then found that same
gear back on those boats.
831
01:02:17,697 --> 01:02:18,960
Oh I see them.
832
01:02:19,096 --> 01:02:21,935
- Yeah.
- Pretty close.
833
01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:24,001
- Can we see all those boats?
- Yeah. Yeah.
834
01:02:24,136 --> 01:02:25,638
- So we're just
going to go past,
835
01:02:25,773 --> 01:02:27,438
so it's been around five minutes
836
01:02:27,574 --> 01:02:29,922
and already we're at the place
where they could be inspected,
837
01:02:29,946 --> 01:02:32,978
they could be inspected
every single day.
838
01:02:33,113 --> 01:02:35,111
None of these folks
have registered.
839
01:02:35,247 --> 01:02:36,912
They're here everyday and night.
840
01:02:37,047 --> 01:02:38,516
- Everyday and night.
841
01:02:38,652 --> 01:02:40,252
The problem is
842
01:02:40,388 --> 01:02:42,067
the block system is going
to take a few months to get in
843
01:02:42,091 --> 01:02:44,518
and these guys are
now going full on full out
844
01:02:44,653 --> 01:02:46,327
because they know
it's going to happen.
845
01:02:46,462 --> 01:02:47,762
We need some help.
846
01:02:47,898 --> 01:02:49,435
We need assistance
to stop these boats
847
01:02:49,459 --> 01:02:51,127
whilst we're
installing the blocks
848
01:02:51,263 --> 01:02:54,297
before there's
nothing left to protect.
849
01:02:58,835 --> 01:03:03,002
The status quo on the coast
has existed for a long time.
850
01:03:03,138 --> 01:03:04,946
A boat there.
851
01:03:05,082 --> 01:03:09,277
And Paul is seen as a
troublemaker, the foreigner
852
01:03:09,413 --> 01:03:11,578
who's come in
and rocked the boat
853
01:03:11,713 --> 01:03:14,955
and so there's people
who want him shut down.
854
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:28,298
- Okay, okay bye.
855
01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:37,145
We've been stopped
from going out on patrol.
856
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,474
The local government is trying
to avoid international incidents
857
01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:43,815
that cause a problem
between Cambodia
858
01:03:43,951 --> 01:03:46,616
and its neighboring countries.
859
01:03:46,752 --> 01:03:50,490
But I think it's being used as
an excuse to stop us going out
860
01:03:50,626 --> 01:03:52,454
or have us closed down.
861
01:04:53,422 --> 01:04:54,422
Yeah.
862
01:04:54,555 --> 01:04:55,649
- Sad.
863
01:04:59,758 --> 01:05:01,193
- Yeah.
864
01:05:16,171 --> 01:05:18,111
It's sad.
865
01:05:42,737 --> 01:05:43,933
It's all good.
866
01:05:44,068 --> 01:05:45,672
Come on, Rachana.
867
01:05:45,808 --> 01:05:48,273
Hey, do not break.
868
01:06:04,457 --> 01:06:07,555
- No matter what he's
done for the ocean,
869
01:06:07,691 --> 01:06:10,862
they still think that
he's a foreigner
870
01:06:10,997 --> 01:06:12,330
and that's really sad.
871
01:06:12,465 --> 01:06:14,761
Like you cannot just say
you're the white person,
872
01:06:14,896 --> 01:06:16,630
you don't love my
ocean more than I do,
873
01:06:16,766 --> 01:06:19,266
you don't love my
country more than I do,
874
01:06:19,402 --> 01:06:22,142
which is completely wrong.
875
01:06:29,281 --> 01:06:32,250
- The frustration and hurt and
876
01:06:32,385 --> 01:06:35,991
how it makes you
feel inside is intense.
877
01:06:37,090 --> 01:06:39,753
Watching something you love die
878
01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:46,497
and using every single
power that you have
879
01:06:46,632 --> 01:06:49,770
to stop yourself doing
the one thing that's right,
880
01:06:49,905 --> 01:06:52,271
which is to go out and stop.
881
01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:16,362
If MCC was removed from Koh Seh,
882
01:07:16,497 --> 01:07:19,428
the fishermen would be
lining up to get in there.
883
01:07:19,564 --> 01:07:22,002
Everything that
they've worked for,
884
01:07:22,138 --> 01:07:24,567
would be gone in
a matter of days.
885
01:07:41,257 --> 01:07:43,758
- Sometimes I think
like, are you stupid?
886
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,087
Like are you fucking stupid?
887
01:07:45,223 --> 01:07:46,223
Why do you carry on?
888
01:07:46,257 --> 01:07:48,427
Why are we doing this?
889
01:07:48,562 --> 01:07:53,431
Is your family not more
important to you than the ocean?
890
01:07:59,473 --> 01:08:01,542
But last night was bad,
there's two big pairs.
891
01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:03,069
I mean like big,
892
01:08:03,205 --> 01:08:04,890
you could see the silhouette
bigger than our big boat,
893
01:08:04,914 --> 01:08:06,743
just came straight through here.
894
01:08:06,879 --> 01:08:09,125
That's the thing that I'm
trying to get them to understand
895
01:08:09,149 --> 01:08:11,811
at the moment is that, like,
896
01:08:11,946 --> 01:08:13,788
the blocks are the
only way to do it.
897
01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:15,488
Even if you've run the patrols,
898
01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:17,397
and even if you catch them
an hour into what they're doing,
899
01:08:17,421 --> 01:08:18,953
they've done that damage.
900
01:08:19,088 --> 01:08:21,259
You've got to prevent the
damage that they're doing,
901
01:08:21,394 --> 01:08:22,794
it's not just about
catching them,
902
01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:24,858
it's about stopping
them in the first place.
903
01:08:27,729 --> 01:08:29,069
- It's very clear that
904
01:08:29,204 --> 01:08:31,071
the government
has to be convinced
905
01:08:31,206 --> 01:08:33,603
that this is the
right thing to do.
906
01:08:41,042 --> 01:08:42,810
This is a story that I
wrote for Mongabay.
907
01:08:42,945 --> 01:08:45,317
The most recent story
that I've published.
908
01:08:45,453 --> 01:08:47,715
The story itself is
about Paul's MFMA
909
01:08:47,850 --> 01:08:49,455
and it's kind of
looking forward to,
910
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:52,858
what could happen if they
get this plan underway.
911
01:08:52,994 --> 01:08:55,027
It's Paul and Sar Sorin.
912
01:08:55,163 --> 01:08:57,031
With a bunch of, electric gear
913
01:08:57,167 --> 01:08:59,361
that they've
confiscated off boats.
914
01:08:59,496 --> 01:09:01,332
Here's a nice image of a trawler
915
01:09:01,467 --> 01:09:03,798
that I got off the
coast of Kampot.
916
01:09:05,637 --> 01:09:09,277
Journalists can
make things change.
917
01:09:09,412 --> 01:09:11,643
If we're not exposing
some of these things then,
918
01:09:11,779 --> 01:09:15,249
the governments have no reason
to do anything about them.
919
01:09:26,156 --> 01:09:29,423
Here we have a trawler illegally
fishing right outside our area
920
01:09:29,558 --> 01:09:32,597
within our 300 meters.
921
01:09:32,732 --> 01:09:35,435
You need to sink about
five or six of these boats,
922
01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:38,239
put them around, and we
got beautiful artificial reef.
923
01:09:39,507 --> 01:09:42,672
We have a second boat
in the background there.
924
01:09:42,807 --> 01:09:44,907
We're just waiting on
police officers to come
925
01:09:45,043 --> 01:09:47,578
and assist us because we've been
told we're not allowed to go
926
01:09:47,713 --> 01:09:49,811
and tackle these big
old boats on our own.
927
01:09:51,788 --> 01:09:52,946
There you go.
928
01:09:54,617 --> 01:09:58,392
Feeling fucking frustrated.
929
01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:02,291
Two sets of pair trawlers
already doing damage and
930
01:10:02,426 --> 01:10:04,527
absolutely no action.
931
01:10:04,662 --> 01:10:06,493
So here we are
again on another night.
932
01:10:06,629 --> 01:10:07,961
Sometimes I really wonder,
933
01:10:08,096 --> 01:10:10,271
like, what is going
through their heads.
934
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:19,309
There's been many
times it's been rocky,
935
01:10:19,445 --> 01:10:21,042
but we wouldn't still be here
936
01:10:21,178 --> 01:10:24,980
if the government of Cambodia
didn't support what we do.
937
01:10:25,116 --> 01:10:27,618
I don't see an end to it unless
they stopped me doing it.
938
01:10:34,129 --> 01:10:38,892
One pair, two pair, one missing.
939
01:10:39,027 --> 01:10:41,001
I want to know
where this one's gone.
940
01:10:41,136 --> 01:10:43,733
That's the one I'm looking for.
941
01:10:50,208 --> 01:10:51,976
Can you see it?
942
01:10:53,444 --> 01:10:56,081
You can't see that?
943
01:10:56,216 --> 01:10:58,678
Yeah, he's passing it.
944
01:10:58,813 --> 01:11:01,085
You see over there, Puppet?
945
01:11:01,221 --> 01:11:02,790
- Oh okay let's go.
946
01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:04,121
- Take us towards them.
947
01:11:09,092 --> 01:11:11,893
Is there any way we can
get some support from Neak?
948
01:11:12,834 --> 01:11:13,928
Okay.
949
01:11:16,703 --> 01:11:19,835
Yeah, yeah, I know,
we should be careful.
950
01:11:23,375 --> 01:11:24,438
He's dropped his net.
951
01:11:24,573 --> 01:11:25,573
He's cut his net.
952
01:11:25,707 --> 01:11:26,939
His net is in the water.
953
01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:29,247
That big motherfucker
is running.
954
01:11:29,382 --> 01:11:31,345
Hey move, move, move, move.
955
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:32,683
Move, now.
956
01:11:34,852 --> 01:11:36,252
- You got one of them
there Paul.
957
01:11:36,355 --> 01:11:37,387
- Yeah, yeah I see him.
958
01:11:37,523 --> 01:11:38,665
Hey, Virak, now we've got two.
959
01:11:38,689 --> 01:11:40,020
We're 300 meters from Koh Seh.
960
01:11:40,155 --> 01:11:41,921
One has dropped his
net and he's running
961
01:11:42,057 --> 01:11:44,297
and there's one other
boat with him.
962
01:11:44,432 --> 01:11:46,095
And he's signaling
for his friends.
963
01:11:46,231 --> 01:11:49,264
He's calling his friends, he's
signaling to the other boats.
964
01:11:51,933 --> 01:11:53,101
Let's go after the other one.
965
01:11:53,237 --> 01:11:54,539
Carney,
966
01:11:54,675 --> 01:11:57,543
give me the baseball
bat just in case.
967
01:12:07,716 --> 01:12:09,918
See the electric cable?
968
01:12:12,392 --> 01:12:14,222
Phon, put me into the front.
969
01:12:14,357 --> 01:12:15,759
Okay?
970
01:12:28,305 --> 01:12:29,942
- Ooh.
971
01:12:30,078 --> 01:12:31,742
You guys, man.
972
01:12:34,016 --> 01:12:35,375
- That is a squid.
973
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:37,112
Yeah.
974
01:12:37,248 --> 01:12:38,458
You know like the big squid
that you see on the market?
975
01:12:38,482 --> 01:12:39,916
That's a baby one.
976
01:12:40,051 --> 01:12:42,422
So he's never going
to get to be a big squid.
977
01:12:42,558 --> 01:12:44,685
A whole load of
them, tiny little babies.
978
01:12:44,821 --> 01:12:48,428
Never going to get any bigger.
979
01:12:48,563 --> 01:12:49,901
I've had enough of
these dudes, man.
980
01:12:49,925 --> 01:12:51,465
He's been told that many times
981
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,862
he's still got electric,
they still don't stop.
982
01:12:54,998 --> 01:12:57,933
Phon, do the same,
yeah? Tow him.
983
01:13:04,647 --> 01:13:08,748
Even I feel sorry for
these guys right now.
984
01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:12,551
But at the same time you've got
these legal fishermen out there
985
01:13:12,686 --> 01:13:14,885
and the legal
fishermen have nothing
986
01:13:15,020 --> 01:13:18,558
and they're losing their
livelihoods to these guys.
987
01:13:53,654 --> 01:13:56,757
- We caught them on time and
they pulled the neck and said
988
01:13:56,892 --> 01:13:58,361
they go out but they obviously...
989
01:14:04,071 --> 01:14:05,198
- Yeah.
990
01:14:06,502 --> 01:14:08,171
- Yeah.
991
01:14:08,307 --> 01:14:11,375
MCC's been on the front lines
of this battle for years now,
992
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:14,208
largely on their own.
993
01:14:14,343 --> 01:14:18,552
But, finally the government
is starting to realize
994
01:14:18,688 --> 01:14:20,448
that they're doing
this for the right reason
995
01:14:20,556 --> 01:14:23,823
and that it's the
right thing to do.
996
01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:27,792
- This is the same way they
did for Kampot in 2008, I think.
997
01:14:28,961 --> 01:14:31,996
- He posted 1 out
of 10 drop the drop.
998
01:14:32,132 --> 01:14:33,167
- Yeah.
999
01:14:33,303 --> 01:14:35,133
If we can make, like document,
1000
01:14:35,268 --> 01:14:36,603
like a request,
1001
01:14:36,738 --> 01:14:39,670
then I can show for
the donor for the money.
1002
01:14:39,806 --> 01:14:41,841
Now we have full
backing and permission
1003
01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:44,607
from high ranking people within
the government of Cambodia
1004
01:14:44,742 --> 01:14:47,482
to go out and stop boats again.
1005
01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:32,652
- At the moment we have marine
police, provincial police,
1006
01:15:32,787 --> 01:15:34,322
fisheries.
1007
01:15:34,457 --> 01:15:39,900
They've come down to take
these people to the court.
1008
01:15:40,035 --> 01:15:42,475
To have the Marine police and
the provincial police here means
1009
01:15:42,532 --> 01:15:44,852
that they're really, really
starting to take it seriously.
1010
01:15:44,973 --> 01:15:48,642
I'm impressed. I'll be honest,
I'm seriously impressed.
1011
01:16:03,951 --> 01:16:06,792
- Yeah.
- Okay.
1012
01:16:17,202 --> 01:16:19,242
- It is a big step because
when you arrest someone,
1013
01:16:19,303 --> 01:16:22,103
it begins a process that's
supposed to be followed.
1014
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:24,371
Right? And we've
seen in the past that
1015
01:16:24,507 --> 01:16:27,613
they don't follow the process,
but, every time you see
1016
01:16:27,748 --> 01:16:29,242
the fisheries guys
doing their job,
1017
01:16:29,378 --> 01:16:31,344
it's a great sign
for things to come.
1018
01:16:41,690 --> 01:16:43,257
Okay.
1019
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,999
The whole MCC project
1020
01:19:01,135 --> 01:19:03,068
was built from scratch
by Paul and his people
1021
01:19:03,204 --> 01:19:05,938
with their bare hands
and with very little money.
1022
01:19:14,116 --> 01:19:18,278
The problem of overfishing
in Cambodia is so complex
1023
01:19:18,414 --> 01:19:22,752
and involves so
many moving parts that
1024
01:19:22,888 --> 01:19:24,651
if it can be solved here,
1025
01:19:24,786 --> 01:19:26,992
it can probably be solved
anywhere around the world.
1026
01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:48,574
Just on the small scale
that we've been doing,
1027
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:53,920
we have a proof that
the ocean can recover.
1028
01:19:57,519 --> 01:20:00,289
The MFMA is enough
to give you hope.
1029
01:20:02,030 --> 01:20:03,996
It will be a signal
to the illegal fishers,
1030
01:20:04,132 --> 01:20:07,329
the government is serious
about changing things.
1031
01:20:16,538 --> 01:20:19,374
- Okay, everybody
here this morning,
1032
01:20:19,509 --> 01:20:21,573
I'd like to introduce
you to, Angie San
1033
01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:24,484
is the excellency
director general of
1034
01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:26,181
Fisheries Administration.
1035
01:20:26,316 --> 01:20:27,888
Director Angel
San's come today to
1036
01:20:28,024 --> 01:20:30,121
officially drop the first
demarcation blocks
1037
01:20:30,256 --> 01:20:32,893
so that we can begin
to protect the area with
1038
01:20:33,028 --> 01:20:36,021
anti-trawling devices
that create fish homes.
1039
01:21:09,262 --> 01:21:12,094
- The idea is each
block is around 150
1040
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:13,589
and then we have
a big metal pole
1041
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:15,135
block to join them together.
1042
01:21:15,271 --> 01:21:16,365
- Right.
1043
01:21:17,567 --> 01:21:19,532
- So this is the actual
fish aggregation device.
1044
01:21:19,667 --> 01:21:21,533
So it's attracting
the fish into it.
1045
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:23,148
So the moment we
put these to the test,
1046
01:21:23,172 --> 01:21:24,874
within one to two days,
1047
01:21:25,009 --> 01:21:26,342
they're full of fish.
1048
01:21:26,477 --> 01:21:28,381
Like, everything is
just looking for a home.
1049
01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:33,952
For him to come
here, for him to say that
1050
01:21:34,088 --> 01:21:35,750
the work we're
doing is wonderful
1051
01:21:35,886 --> 01:21:37,798
and it's something that could
be implemented in other places
1052
01:21:37,822 --> 01:21:39,357
in Cambodia,
1053
01:21:39,492 --> 01:21:42,660
for him to be so happy
with the work that we've done,
1054
01:21:42,796 --> 01:21:44,932
tt's insanely wonderful.
1055
01:21:47,031 --> 01:21:48,798
All very good swimmers.
1056
01:21:48,934 --> 01:21:50,564
Swim from the deep.
1057
01:21:55,473 --> 01:21:58,946
Yeah, onto the front
is probably the easiest.
1058
01:22:01,579 --> 01:22:05,346
And just around here is
where Rachana made her reef.
1059
01:22:05,481 --> 01:22:07,153
So she's got the
two big structure,
1060
01:22:07,289 --> 01:22:09,852
a small one, and then
two lions like on the pier.
1061
01:22:09,988 --> 01:22:12,223
It looks very beautiful.
1062
01:22:27,970 --> 01:22:31,407
Rachana is basically the future
and the hope of MCC in my mind.
1063
01:22:33,012 --> 01:22:34,474
Mind your toes, mind your feet.
1064
01:22:34,610 --> 01:22:37,684
Go on, out of the way.
Come on Rachana,
1065
01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:39,745
I believe under her leadership
1066
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,388
she will take MCC
to a different level.
1067
01:22:43,524 --> 01:22:45,054
- 1,2,3!
1068
01:22:57,436 --> 01:23:00,368
- That allows us to do
what we've done here
1069
01:23:00,504 --> 01:23:03,043
throughout the
whole archipelago.
1070
01:23:12,418 --> 01:23:15,153
It's the beginning
of full restoration.
1071
01:23:15,288 --> 01:23:16,923
It's the beginning
of the beginning.
1072
01:23:17,059 --> 01:23:19,492
I'm just, I'm
buzzing. It's brilliant.
1073
01:23:19,628 --> 01:23:21,153
- Yeah, yeah.
1074
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:27,393
Thank you very,
very much everybody
1075
01:23:27,528 --> 01:23:29,201
for being fucking wonderful!
1076
01:23:32,672 --> 01:23:33,771
Yes!
1077
01:24:36,868 --> 01:24:39,973
- For me, the great power
of investigative journalism
1078
01:24:40,108 --> 01:24:43,275
is that it can make
things change.
1079
01:24:45,743 --> 01:24:49,775
And, this new job gives
me a much bigger platform
1080
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:52,445
and more resources
to keep reporting
1081
01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:55,452
the stories that don't get told.
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