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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,920 It's not like men have been wrong before. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,560 I mean, for years, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,200 men have thought that they were smarter than women. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Women in universities in the U.K. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,760 do better than men in nearly every area of performance. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,160 That's according to new research. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,680 For years, men have thought 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,920 that women should not work. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,480 And that was 2009, when women became 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,120 more than 50% of the workforce. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,600 And for years, 12 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,680 men have thought that women couldn't lead. 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,280 [woman] And last year, for the first time, 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,480 women became 54% of all American managers. 15 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,200 For years, men have thought 16 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,760 that women could not fight. 17 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,800 The Senate just voted on a bill that would have women 18 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,200 be eligible to be drafted into the US military 19 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,520 for the first time in American history. 20 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,680 And Kinsey mentioned that for years, 21 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,760 men have thought that women had a lower sex drive. 22 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,600 Women in the past were sexually 23 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,720 very different than women of today. 24 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,920 But now there's a cable channel 25 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,680 that just shows porn for women. 26 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,880 The female orgasm can be 27 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 10 times more powerful than the male orgasm. 28 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:09,720 Women have a wider range of arousal than men. 29 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,960 I think sexuality is more part of a woman's identity. 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,920 If women were raised 31 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,920 to think of themselves as sexual creatures, 32 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:21,040 you would probably see a very different world. 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,240 [female narrator] Growing up, I never realized 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,320 that I had a high sex drive. 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Not until I discovered that sex seemed to feel 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,760 more special to me. 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,920 It's not that the guys I dated didn't think it was special. 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,160 It's just that, for me, it felt richer, deeper. 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,480 It was more satisfying. 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,480 It's like we were doing the same thing, 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,440 but I had a totally different experience. 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Am I the only woman who feels this way? 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Or are there more women who feel like me? 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,000 It depends. If-If-If the man 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,680 is in love with his woman, 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,720 he will feel love with emotions. 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,200 But if he, you know, it's like one-night stand, 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,920 he just-- he just, uh, 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,840 fulfills his pleasure. 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,480 That's it. 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,760 And I think for a woman, 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,040 there's always such amount of emotions. 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,360 I think for a woman, it's more important. 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,800 I think for the man, because of his... it bolsters his ego. 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,960 Yes, for a woman, because we have more sexual energy. 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,920 I think it's about the same. 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Oh, there are differences, but... 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Yes, I definitely think that women have a higher sex drive, 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,280 because, for us it's more sensual, and it just feels deeper. 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,360 I have to say women 61 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,720 because they crave affection, 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,880 and guys, they just... 63 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:12,840 For men, it's more important 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,600 to have lots of sex with different people. 65 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:19,440 They both like it, but men want it more often. 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 For women, it's important to make this 67 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,080 one act of sex they do 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,520 an important thing. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,120 There's apparently a shortage of possible romantic partners. 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Complaints of a man drought... 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,080 The search for love is in a state of emergency. 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,560 What's keeping them from finding their Prince Charming? 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,080 People don't want to admit what the reality is. 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,840 Professional black women are not making it up. 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Australia is caught up in a man drought. 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Finding the right man is proving elusive. 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,480 It's not easy out there. There's definitely a man drought. 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,240 I'm feeling it. It's hard to find a date, even. 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Look, if you're a woman, and you've been wondering 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,280 where all the men have gone, 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,280 the good news is that it's not in your head, 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,520 but the bad news is that you're actually right. 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,000 There is a massive shortage of men. 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Millions of women know just what it feels like 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,160 to look around at the men on offer 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,160 and think, "No, thanks." 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Okay, delay, delay, delay, as much as you possibly can, 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,160 until you know that you've met someone 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,960 that you can be happy with for the rest of your life. 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Growing up with romantic comedies, 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,200 you do tend to think that life should be like a Reese Witherspoon movie, 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,960 that you should be swept off your feet. 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,960 Some successful women 94 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,440 have had good men and didn't know it. 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,040 [narrator] Men and women have always had different opinions about sex, 96 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,880 but according to dating experts, there has never been 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,920 such a major shift in relationships than in the last 15 years. 98 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Today I am meeting one of those dating experts, 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Marcia Chong. 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,560 In her work, she talks about 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,680 how modern gender roles have completely changed the dating game, 102 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,560 and how years of experience have led her 103 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,280 to an interesting conclusion. 104 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,960 She believes that sex is more important for women, 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,440 and today I want to find out why. 106 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,760 When it comes to sex and attraction, 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,640 every woman has a secret that we never share with men, 108 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,240 because if we did, things might get a little awkward. 109 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,240 You see, every woman has a list, 110 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,360 a list of all the things we want in a man. 111 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Now, the problem is not the list. 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,160 The problem is the size of the list 113 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,400 and the fact that it is that detailed. 114 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 For example, he has to be tall, handsome, 115 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,360 strong, educated and ambitious, 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,200 have a good job, have a nice house, a car, 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,120 and he has to be social and fit in with our family. 118 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,560 And of course, he has to be a good kisser, 119 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,200 a good lover, and a great father for our children. 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,280 But, unfortunately, 121 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,000 only a few men can meet those high expectations, 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,920 and that's why many men think that women aren't interested in sex. 123 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 But we are. It's just that 124 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,200 most men don't make the list. 125 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,920 And we call this the 80/20 principle. 126 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,320 -The 80/20 principle? -Yes. 127 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,680 It's a marketing principle that's also used in the dating world, 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,920 and it means that 80% of the women 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,400 are only interested in 20% of the men. 130 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 For example, dating profiles. 131 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,840 While men like roughly half of the women on the site, 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,920 most women only like 20% of the men. 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,480 And this is why women are so competitive in the dating world, 134 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,000 and I think even more than men. 135 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Because most women are interested in a very small group of men. 136 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,000 But it's getting worse. 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Dating for women is becoming harder and harder. 138 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,760 -What do you mean? -For the first time in history, 139 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,200 women are out-performing men in nearly every category. 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 More women are graduating, 141 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,800 becoming doctors, lawyers, bankers, 142 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:47,680 and all these changes are dramatically transforming the dating culture. 143 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,480 Because these days, women are not dependent on men anymore. 144 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,480 We have our own careers, our own houses, social lives, 145 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,440 and we can provide for ourselves. 146 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,520 So now women only settle with the best. 147 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,600 A man has to have added value. 148 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,280 And if a man has lower education or earns less, 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,880 he might be less interesting to women. 150 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,360 So as our status increases, 151 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 so do our expectations, 152 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,080 and our lists become longer and longer. 153 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,040 [Chong] Yes, that's right. And this also impacts men. 154 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,600 It makes men frustrated and confused, 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,720 because less and less women find them interesting. 156 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 You see, in the past, almost everyone got married, 157 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,960 because it was seen as a necessity. 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,280 And a good provider had a good chance of getting married. 159 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,240 But now, that guarantee is gone. 160 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,240 And another thing is that women these days 161 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,680 want a soul mate to talk about feelings with a man. 162 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,360 But at the same time, he has to be firm and rugged. 163 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,600 And this is also confusing men. 164 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,160 [interviewer] But why are our expectations so high? 165 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,800 I think this has to do with biology. 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,800 A man can produce millions of sperm cells every day, 167 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 but a woman can only get pregnant a few times in her life. 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,120 So she wants the best husband, 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 father and provider for her child, 170 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,360 or else she could end up raising her child alone. 171 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,400 It's like a handgun versus a machine gun. 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,880 If you had a handgun with only six bullets, 173 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,000 wouldn't you be very selective in how you use it? 174 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Yeah, I guess I would be very selective. 175 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,080 But I recently read a study 176 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,320 that showed that women cheat as much as men. 177 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Do you think this is true? 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Yes. Most people think that men cheat more. 179 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,200 But in reality, that's not true. 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Because all these men don't just cheat with single women. 181 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,200 But I think there's one major difference-- 182 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,360 women are better at keeping it a secret. 183 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Are you saying we're better at cheating? 184 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,040 In my experience, men are more obvious 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,960 and women are more subtle. 186 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,880 But for a woman, it's more important to know 187 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,680 if their partner is cheating. 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,680 Woman worry about it more, 189 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,440 and that's why a lot of women need more validation. 190 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,440 When she asks, "Do you love me?" 191 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,600 or "How much do you love me?" 192 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,920 these aren't random questions, they actually go back to evolution. 193 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,320 Because when a woman becomes pregnant, 194 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,720 she's very dependent and vulnerable. 195 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,960 So if her partner leaves her while she's pregnant, she has a big problem. 196 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Men, on the other hand, do not experience 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 that level of vulnerability. 198 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,160 So who do you think has a higher sex drive? 199 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,600 -Men or women? -I think women do 200 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,960 because we check out men all the time. 201 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 So women think about sex more than men, 202 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,320 but in a different way, a more critical way. 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Because we have to make sure we choose the right man, 204 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,760 we're constantly comparing and analyzing men. 205 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,040 Is he attractive, intelligent, and does he have potential? 206 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,800 I even have to admit that 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,200 I still catch myself doing it all the time, 208 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,800 and I'm happily married. 209 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Two birth-control pills have suspected links 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,600 to the deaths of at least 23 Canadians. 211 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,640 [female broadcaster] More than 1,000 Canadian women 212 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:53,960 have had gall bladders removed, strokes, 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,600 or are on blood thinners for the rest of their lives. 214 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,760 They are. They really are. They are totally messing up 215 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 women's natural hormone rhythm. 216 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:06,200 It's a very, very potent drug, and it has life-ending properties to it. 217 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,400 [female broadcaster] Makers of the two pills have already paid 218 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,200 more than a billion dollars, settling thousands of lawsuits. 219 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 [female broadcaster 2] A possible link between birth control and depression. 220 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Those who use birth-control pills were twenty three to two times more likely 221 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,520 to be prescribed an antidepressant medication 222 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,600 compared to those who didn't used them. 223 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,760 And you have these mood swings. Some women can have suicidal thoughts, 224 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,440 some women can just go from being extremely happy to extremely sad. 225 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,080 And so at first it was assumed that, 226 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,280 okay, well, you're putting synthetic hormones into your body 227 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,280 and you're body's just trying to get used to it, 228 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,240 so those mood swings are normal, 229 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 and they'll normalize as you continue usage. 230 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,360 But it's actually having an impact on certain regions of your brain. 231 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,320 [woman] Taking birth control may be affecting 232 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,640 how women perceive men's level of attractiveness. 233 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,040 When you expose males 234 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,240 to excess estrogen, 235 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,520 that feminizes males. 236 00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:59,640 When you expose females 237 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,920 to excess estrogen, 238 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 it masculinizes females. 239 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,440 The increased risk of breast cancer and heart disease, 240 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,120 and those are very concerning, but... 241 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,080 I think for me, the thing that was most personally concerning was, 242 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,680 I lost my sex drive. 243 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,720 [narrator] Since I was 15, I've been on the pill. 244 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,600 It always made me feel safe and protected. 245 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,080 But recently, more people have started to reject the pill, 246 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 and this made me ask myself, 247 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,840 "Am I still making the right decision?" 248 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,080 To answer these questions, I've decided to arrange 249 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 a meeting with a specialist in chemistry 250 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,720 and ask her what they're putting in our pill. 251 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,840 I've heard many stories about the Pill, 252 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,440 but does it really decrease our sex drive? 253 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 [woman] Yes. Studies show that a lot 254 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,160 of birth-control pills actually lower the sex drive. 255 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 In fact, the pill works by tricking the body 256 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,360 into thinking it's pregnant. 257 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,640 But the problem is that when the body thinks it's pregnant, 258 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:02,240 it stops producing the hormone testosterone. 259 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,840 [interviewer] You mean the hormone that affects the sex drive? 260 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Yes. Testosterone makes a woman take more risks, 261 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,200 become wilder, put herself out there. 262 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,880 So, the less testosterone a woman has, 263 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,080 the lower her sex drive. 264 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,640 But sometimes the pill also increases the sex drive. 265 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:25,880 Not all birth control contain the same hormones. 266 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,840 But unfortunately, most women who are on the pill 267 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,960 report a decrease in sex drive. 268 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,560 -So do you take the pill? -No, I don't. 269 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,440 You see, the pill not only affects the sex drive, 270 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 but it also changes the structure of your brain. 271 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 It impacts our sense of smell. 272 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 It even impacts especially 273 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,040 how attractive we find men. 274 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,800 For example, women who meet their partner while they're on the pill 275 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,320 may find them less attractive once they stop taking the pill. 276 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,800 -How is that possible? -Remember, 277 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,000 when you're on the pill, your body thinks 278 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 that it's pregnant, and it's thinking, 279 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 "How can I get a good male provider 280 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,800 to take care of my baby?" 281 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,160 Physical appearance is less important. 282 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,600 But once you're off the pill, your brain is thinking, 283 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,920 "How can I get a handsome man 284 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,600 to fertilize me and give me an attractive baby?" 285 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,720 And this problem might be 286 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,560 even bigger than we think. 287 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Since the 1960s, the average British breast size 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,160 has increased by three cup sizes. 289 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,120 At first, experts thought 290 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 it was only due to weight gain. 291 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,280 But many British women 292 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,880 have maintained their body proportions, 293 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,560 leading experts to believe 294 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,520 a more disturbing theory... 295 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:53,680 the increased British breast size was due 296 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,000 to the unnaturally high estrogen levels 297 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 that are mainly found in the pill. 298 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,080 [interviewer] Aside from the pill, do you think women 299 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,640 naturally have a higher sex drive than men? 300 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,400 In my professional opinion, no. 301 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Here's the problem-- 302 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,120 The female sex drive is more in the mind, 303 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,480 and the male sex drive is more in the body. 304 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,480 So it's easy to measure the body, 305 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 but it's very difficult 306 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,760 to measure what's going on in the mind, 307 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,920 to measure what women are really thinking. 308 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,560 So women can have a higher sex drive. 309 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Personally speaking, 310 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,720 I think yes, woman have a higher sex drive. 311 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,120 But the problem is, we don't get to show it. 312 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,360 -What do you mean exactly? -I think it has to do 313 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,000 with the way in which women are raised. 314 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,080 Most guys have been taught 315 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,280 to go out there and "macho" 316 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,000 and have as much fun as possible. 317 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,920 But most girls have been taught to be modest. 318 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,200 That's why their sex drive is more internal. 319 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,120 And sometimes women don't even know when they are aroused. 320 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 If a man is aroused, he immediately 321 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,520 feels an erection down there. 322 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,200 But when a woman is aroused, 323 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,480 she doesn't have any way of knowing it. 324 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 She uses her intuition. 325 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,080 It's much more often emotional feeling. 326 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,400 -So our sex drives are more tricky then. -Yes. 327 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Have a look at this. 328 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 This is a Maasai couple. Can you tell me, 329 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,520 who is the woman in this picture? 330 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,720 -I think it's the one on the left. -No. 331 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,360 The one with the long hair and the jewelry is the man. 332 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Many people think that 333 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,400 women are less visual than men. 334 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,160 But it's absolutely not true. 335 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,360 In fact, it's the exact opposite. 336 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Women are more visual than men. 337 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,560 In the West, we actually have 338 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,040 the beauty standard backwards. 339 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Originally, it's men who are supposed to be beautiful. 340 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Think about the peacock and its feathers, 341 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,520 or the lion and its mane, 342 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,200 or even ducks. 343 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,440 It's the males who are beautiful, 344 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,240 not the females. 345 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 In fact, when researchers 346 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,480 began to study female desire, 347 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,560 they were shocked. 348 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Not only did they discover that women 349 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,280 were just as aroused as men when watching porn, 350 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,080 they also discovered that women had 351 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,200 a wider range of arousal than men. 352 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Even non-human sex 353 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,760 aroused women. 354 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Like millions of people across the globe, 355 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,080 my husband and I are outraged and heartbroken 356 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,600 over the kidnapping of more than 200 Nigerian girls 357 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,360 from their school dormitory in the middle of the night. 358 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,440 [woman] From the beginning, the Pakistan Taliban 359 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,280 took credit for shooting Malala Yousafzai 360 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,640 because she spoke out against the Taliban 361 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,320 and their restrictions on education for girls. 362 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Fourteen Pakistani village council members have been arrested 363 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 for allegedly ordering a teenage girl to be raped. 364 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,520 [man] Crimes against women in India have doubled in the last decade, 365 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,520 sparking worldwide condemnations. 366 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,000 In India, a rape case is reported every 20 minutes. 367 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,640 [woman] A 23-year-old student gang-raped 368 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,120 inside a moving bus in the nation's capital. 369 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Sexually assaulted with an iron rod, 370 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,320 her internal organs pulled out. 371 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:24,560 The injuries so brutal, she later died. 372 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,320 The very term "honor killing" 373 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:28,400 has a sinister but misleading ring to it. 374 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,880 The murder of a woman or child by a father, brother or uncle 375 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,200 for bringing perceived shame on the family. 376 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 [woman] In Egypt, official reports have shown 377 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:39,000 that sexual violence against women has increased. 378 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,040 99.3% of Egyptian woman 379 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,240 have experienced some form of sexual violence. 380 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Saudi Arabia is the most conservative country in the world, 381 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,480 where women are still banned from driving 382 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,120 and need permission from their male guardian, 383 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,160 being a father, a husband or a son, to simply get a job. 384 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,160 [woman] Just a few weeks ago, she quietly married the love of her life 385 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 against the wishes of her family. 386 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,520 The day after the marriage, Sabbah's father and uncle 387 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,200 took her from her new home and tried to kill her. 388 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,200 [narrator] From a young age, I have been told that women 389 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,680 have always had little rights in history 390 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,760 and that we're now living in the golden age of women. 391 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,280 But what if that isn't true? Today we're meeting 392 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,280 with Dr. Annine van der Meer. 393 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Annine is a historian, theologian, and gender expert. 394 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,600 She has written several books and articles that contradict 395 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,320 many things that we are told about women today 396 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:35,880 and reveal the hidden role of women in history. 397 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 What was the role of women in history, 398 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,200 and was it very different from today? 399 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Yes. It was very different. 400 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,920 Because before "his story," 401 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 we had "her story." 402 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,520 And that was a very different cultural period. 403 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,720 There was a lot of sexual freedom 404 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,160 in that period of history. 405 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,000 There was peace and harmony. 406 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,080 So the idea that man is primitive and aggressive 407 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,520 in his essence is wrong. 408 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,760 But that changed. 409 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,720 That changed by an enormous climate crisis 410 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,640 around 3000 BC. 411 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Many ice ages dried up the earth 412 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,280 and made the word very cold so that people couldn't 413 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,080 work and live on the land anymore. 414 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:35,080 And because the men had to leave their land, 415 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,160 they took the horses and the herds, 416 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,160 and they became nomads. 417 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Thus they had to conquer land 418 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,360 of other people to live on, 419 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,640 and they brought a male-dominated society 420 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,120 which was very suppressive for women. 421 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,600 So how were women sexually? 422 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Women in the past were sexually 423 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,960 very different than women of today. 424 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,640 First of all, they were free 425 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,720 to choose their partners, 426 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,840 and they loved sex and eroticism. 427 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960 And having a baby 428 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 was something very precious because there were few people. 429 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,200 And afterwards, when people settled down in settlements and cities, 430 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,960 the women also stayed very free 431 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,720 and could choose their partners, 432 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,960 so sexuality was really something 433 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,400 which was bigger than a biological, medical thing. 434 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,320 It was an emotional, psychological 435 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:43,200 and spiritual thing. 436 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,880 Let me ask you a question. 437 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Which is the oldest profession in the world, 438 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,560 do you think? 439 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,840 I guess prostitution, maybe. 440 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,720 In history, it's prostitution. 441 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,600 but in "her story," it's midwifery. 442 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,000 The midwife helping the pregnant woman 443 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,000 to deliver the baby, 444 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,040 using herbs to relax the muscles. 445 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 She has a lot of herbal knowledge. 446 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,680 She knows a lot about birth control. 447 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,080 That's why they had so much sexual freedom. 448 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,560 They could choose their male partners. 449 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,560 They were not afraid to have babies. 450 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,920 They could experiment with them 451 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,720 before they choose a final partner to have babies with. 452 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,920 Wow! When I think of midwives, 453 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,640 I only think about giving birth, not preventing it. 454 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Women in the past knew much more about 455 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,720 anti-conception than women today. 456 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,240 -Seriously? -Yes. 457 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Many people think that sexual revolution started 458 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,160 with introducing the pill in the '60s, 459 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 but this anti-conception knowledge 460 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,640 was much older, millennia older. 461 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,360 It gave the women a lot of freedom. 462 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,680 But then this knowledge was lost. 463 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,880 At the end of the Middle Ages in Europe, 464 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,560 there became a serious illness, a plague, 465 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,840 and the population was decimated. 466 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,680 Many villages and lands were empty, 467 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,960 and then Church and State thought, 468 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,440 "We have to repopulate." 469 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,400 And then they thought, "Well, who do we know 470 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,800 who manages fertility 471 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,640 and who controls fertility?" 472 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,440 That was the midwife. And they thought, 473 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,640 "Well, let's remove them. 474 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,360 Let's call them witches." 475 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,920 The literal meaning of the word "witch" is wiccan, is "to know." 476 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720 [interviewer] I always thought that "witch" was a negative word, 477 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,240 -but it's actually about knowledge. -Yes. 478 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,880 Midwives had this ancient knowledge 479 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,480 about managing fertility, 480 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,480 about reducing fertility, 481 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,640 and enhancing fertility. 482 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320 So these wise women 483 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:05,400 were accused of witchery. 484 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,760 And a witch hunt started, 485 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,680 and it spread itself all over Europe. 486 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,080 There were so many countries, and many, many, many women were murdered. 487 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,920 To accuse midwives of magical acts 488 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,400 and copulating with the devil 489 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,120 was all about fertility and sexual acts. 490 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,720 So we had a high sex drive, but then the Church took it away? 491 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,960 [Annine] Yes. We in Western cultures 492 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,920 have a long, long and very tragic history 493 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,840 of sexual repression-- 494 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,920 repression of the libido, 495 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,360 repression of body awareness. 496 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,480 Sex was perverse. 497 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,640 Sex was vulgar. 498 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,880 And we have this split 499 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,440 between sexuality and religion. 500 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Where is that freedom we had? 501 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,920 We once had? It's gone. 502 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,920 For example, look at Egypt now. 503 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,440 So many women totally covered up 504 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,440 from top to toe. 505 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Even the hands, 506 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,120 in 40 degrees of warmth-- it's terrible. 507 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,360 But how different it once was. 508 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,560 They could own land, 509 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,120 they could travel, 510 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,800 they could go to the market and exchange goods. 511 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Everything was possible. They could choose their own husbands. 512 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,040 They could marry whoever they liked. 513 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,840 [interviewer] So our sex drive was more respected. 514 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,400 -Very much respected. -Okay. 515 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,480 So the last question-- 516 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480 Do you think women have 517 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960 a higher sex drive than men? 518 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,440 Historically speaking, yes. 519 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Because in these ancient groups of people, 520 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,360 it was so important that people got babies 521 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 and that the group was enlarged. 522 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,120 Women were eager to have sex. 523 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800 They were honored for that quality. 524 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,680 When there was this physical attraction 525 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,320 and psychological attraction, 526 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:19,560 to really feel love and affection for their male partners, 527 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,440 she really could reach ecstasy, 528 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,000 and she could take him with her in that ecstasy. 529 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,120 And I'm convinced we had that ability, 530 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 and we still have that today. 531 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,560 There is an element of hatred and rejection 532 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,920 in men's relationships to women 533 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,600 which women are unfortunately unaware of at their peril. 534 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560 So I don't know what sex is for. 535 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,360 I do know how sex is used against women. 536 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040 The act of fucking being to the advantage 537 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,040 of the one who fucks and to the disadvantage of the one who is fucked 538 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,120 is always characterized as female and inferior. 539 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,760 -[man] What do you think men are doing wrong? -They oppress us as women. 540 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800 They won't let us be. 541 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,120 Pornography, essentially, is the trafficking in women. 542 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,120 It's the sale of women. 543 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,600 It is a system of sexual exploitation 544 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,840 in which women are devalued, 545 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840 women are turned into commodities, 546 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,880 women are sold as meat, women are, in fact, tortured. 547 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,640 Five years ago, we said to rape victims, 548 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520 "Oh, you enjoyed it, you wanted it, you asked for it." 549 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,600 And now we are saying the same things to women 550 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,000 who are forced into prostitution or into pornography. 551 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Most people in the States or probably even here 552 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 don't really know what does go on 553 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,720 in pornography, 554 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,880 and I felt it very important 555 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,200 to take a stand and, uh, 556 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920 let people know that pornography is not a victimless crime 557 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,400 and to speak up and set the record straight 558 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,240 as to what happened to me. 559 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200 [narrator] Before the height of the feminist movement, 560 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,960 mainstream porn was seen as something that 561 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,160 men and women watched together. 562 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,640 Both men and women flocked to the screenings 563 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,720 to see films like Deep Throat, Behind the Green Door, 564 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,960 and The Devil Inside Miss Jones. 565 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,200 But during the feminist movement, 566 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,680 porn became divided. 567 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,440 Porn was now seen as masculine, aggressive. 568 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,320 So a new type of porn had to be created, 569 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,720 a type of porn that suited the modern woman. 570 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,920 But instead of becoming less explicit, 571 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 the porn that women had in mind was even more explicit 572 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,360 and would go beyond Playboy and show everything. 573 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,000 This was the rise of a new era, 574 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,320 and it was called Playgirl. 575 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,320 [interviewer] As the former editor-in-chief, 576 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,640 what was it like working at Playgirl? 577 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320 It's definitely strange and a little surreal. 578 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,360 I did not grow up 579 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000 feeling like I was doing a lot of the looking. 580 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,360 Certainly I'd always found men attractive, 581 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,360 but I had literally never been standing around 582 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,360 just looking at naked men before. 583 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800 So it was certainly strange, 584 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720 but after a while, it all just becomes very normalized. 585 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,640 And, of course, dealing with, um, 586 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280 "mimbos" makes it get old really fast. 587 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,680 -"Mimbos"? -I think of mimbos 588 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000 as basically just the male version of bimbos. 589 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,440 Guys who are just solely focused 590 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040 on what they look like and how they're appearing. 591 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680 How fake their spray tan does or doesn't look. 592 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,480 How white their teeth are. 593 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Whether they shaved their chest hair and if there's stubble. 594 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Really just un-sexy details 595 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,120 that, um... 596 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,600 you know, just kind of take away all of, like, 597 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,440 the sex appeal when you're the person behind the camera. 598 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,640 [interviewer] So there was a double standard. 599 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Yeah, there's a pretty big double standard. 600 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,920 If a woman poses for Playboy, it can help to launch her career. 601 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120 If a guy poses for Playgirl, he can end up getting fired or he's seen as cheap 602 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,440 or there's a stigma against it in some other way. 603 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200 Wow. How did you end up working for Playgirl? 604 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,400 Um... funny story. 605 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,840 I had just finished grad school, 606 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,640 and Craigslist had an ad for managing editor at Playgirl. 607 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,240 And I applied really as a joke, 608 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,000 and when they called me in for an interview, I was shocked. 609 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,840 But I went in. I had never seen a Playgirl before. 610 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,840 You had never seen a Playgirl before, 611 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480 -but you wanted to work at Playgirl. -Yeah. 612 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 And was it hard working at Playgirl? 613 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,480 It was challenging, for sure. 614 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,560 The magazine was run by women, 615 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,800 owned by heterosexual men, 616 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,720 and also was trying to cater to a gay audience. 617 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840 It was very much an impossible triangle. 618 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,080 -So you had to compromise. -Yes. 619 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000 There was a lot of compromise. asking questions like, 620 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,920 "What is porn?" "What is erotica?" "Where is the line?" 621 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920 What women wanted and what men thought women wanted-- 622 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040 it was not always easy to define. 623 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,920 Well, I know what I want. 624 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Yes, but do you know what most other women want? 625 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Um, a naked, attractive man. 626 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,480 Sure, but do you want him lying in bed, 627 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400 or do you want him doing something? 628 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,760 Do you want him flaccid or hard? Do you want him with another guy? 629 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Do you want him with another guy? Do you want him with another woman? 630 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Do you want him by himself? In the shower? Outside? 631 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,360 It becomes very difficult very quickly 632 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,960 to pick out something that's going to please everybody. 633 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Okay. I get what you're saying. 634 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Woman need a little more than just 635 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,280 a man standing in front of her naked. 636 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,760 Um, guys have a little bit of an easier time 637 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120 flipping through a Playboy or Penthouse and seeing a woman just standing there. 638 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,600 But a woman is more likely to notice if there's no story line. 639 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,120 She's more likely to notice if his makeup sucks 640 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,840 or if his spray tan is off or if his hair is bad. 641 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 She's looking for all of these details, 642 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360 and so our responsibility with Playgirl 643 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,600 was to think in those terms and deliver. 644 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Wow. How did Playgirl begin? 645 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,760 Well, you had Playboy coming of age in the '50s, 646 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,840 and then the sexual revolution happened in the '60s. 647 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,080 And Playgirl was started in 1973 648 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680 as a feminist response to Playboy. 649 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,200 -I heard Jenny Lambert convinced her husband to start Playgirl. -Yes. 650 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,440 And over the years, Playgirl had huge numbers. 651 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240 And in its heyday, it had 652 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600 something like 10 million subscribers. 653 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,800 By the '80s, Playgirl was getting published in more than 32 countries. 654 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,120 It had its own TV channel, male revue shows. 655 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,320 It was literally everywhere. 656 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Even Russia had its own Playgirl magazine. 657 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,240 [interviewer] But then why did Playgirl magazine stop? 658 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,400 I think ultimately 659 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,440 we couldn't get the equation right. 660 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840 I remember one day in a conference room 661 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880 one of my bosses turning to me and saying, 662 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120 completely seriously, 663 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,200 "Women do not like to look at naked men." 664 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 And... I was shocked, 665 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040 and I responded to him and said, "But I'm a woman, 666 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,400 and I do like to look at naked men. 667 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,080 I'm attracted to that." 668 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,160 And he completely dismissed me. 669 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280 -Wow. -Yes. 670 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240 I think if they had let us do what we wanted to, 671 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440 what the female managers 672 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440 at this company were trying to do, 673 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,880 I think you would've seen a very different future for Playgirl. 674 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,040 But Playgirl started something very important. 675 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,280 There wasn't a name for it back in the '70s. 676 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080 People were just calling it "foreplay." 677 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,600 But Playgirl was not about naked men. 678 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,440 Playgirl was about women looking at naked men. 679 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240 It was about the female gaze. 680 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,520 -You mean CFNM. -Yes. 681 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,160 You can look at 682 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 covers like this as an example, 683 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400 but there was so much more interaction 684 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 between men and women in the magazine 685 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360 when it was truly entertainment for women. 686 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,600 You have interaction, you have real connection, 687 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480 you have the female gaze. 688 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,480 If you study art history at all, the gaze and the voyeur 689 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920 is always the man looking in on the woman. 690 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,320 And Playgirl essentially flipped that on its head and said, "Fuck you." 691 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800 That's what made it so successful, was this idea that 692 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720 we were empowering women to take their sexuality 693 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,240 into their own hands and their own eyes. 694 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680 And that was what was so exciting. 695 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,760 One of the most popular requests that we would get 696 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,480 with Playgirl for photo shoots was 697 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,720 a man doing things like chores around the house 698 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080 or fixing something. 699 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Even wearing an apron while 700 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,760 the woman relaxed on a couch. 701 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,360 Essentially, porn for women was 702 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,760 the men being in positions of servitude. 703 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 But eventually we lost that connection, 704 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200 and things started to disintegrate. 705 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,000 As we were pushed more and more to appeal to a gay male audience 706 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,520 and to have less of a direct connection to our female readers, 707 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,760 a lot of things just started to get lost in translation. 708 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320 -Why? -Because 709 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440 the people at the top were very firmly rooted 710 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,080 in their ideas that 711 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440 women didn't want to look at this kind of stuff. 712 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,720 And even though you saw more porn being made for women, 713 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,360 and you saw things like Fifty Shades of Grey coming out, 714 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360 there was still this overwhelming belief in-house 715 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640 that women were not the ones who would be buying these magazines. 716 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,600 -Really? -Yes. 717 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,360 They thought that only gay men looked at Playgirl. 718 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520 And... that was silly 719 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000 because the gay men who enjoyed Playgirl 720 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,840 had always enjoyed it because it was from a female perspective. 721 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400 So as soon as we started 722 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600 erring more on the side of 723 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,960 what's considered gay poses or gay content, 724 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040 we alienated those gay readers 725 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,800 who had enjoyed the magazine from when it started, 726 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,120 but also in the process, we alienated our female readers. 727 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360 But unknowingly, Playgirl planted a seed. 728 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Even without the magazine in print, CFNM is everywhere. 729 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,760 It's in every hot photo shoot, it's all over the Internet, 730 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,480 it's in television, it's in movies. 731 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,400 It has become sort of the gold standard 732 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,720 in what women generally see as erotic. 733 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,840 By the way, who invented the word? You? 734 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,360 -No, it was Brad. -Brad? A guy? 735 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,920 -Yes. -Okay. 736 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,720 So who do you think has a higher sex drive? 737 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,280 I would say it's equal, 738 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,520 but I can say that if women were raised 739 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,880 to think of themselves as sexual creatures, 740 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,160 you would probably see a very different world. 741 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,800 [narrator] In 1916, 742 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,240 Universal Studios' highest-paid director 743 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,840 was not a man, 744 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,800 but a woman. 745 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,240 Half of all films before 1925 746 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080 were written by women. 747 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,240 But today, only seven percent 748 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000 of Hollywood films are directed by woman, 749 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,880 and in 2017, not a single female director 750 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640 was nominated for an Oscar. 751 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600 In the Hollywood film industry, woman are declining. 752 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,440 But in another industry, women are rising. 753 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880 In the adult industry, this year 754 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,600 36% of AVN-nominated directors are women. 755 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,080 On the surface, you'd think that 756 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640 the porn industry is male-dominated. 757 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,560 But since the beginning of porn, 758 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,480 women have stood behind the camera, 759 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160 and their numbers are rapidly increasing. 760 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,480 Today I'm meeting one of those female directors, 761 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,200 the nominated and multi award-winning director, 762 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,200 Jennifer Lyon Bell. 763 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,520 [interviewer] How did you get the idea to make porn as your future? 764 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Um, well, it's been something 765 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,720 that I was thinking about for a long time. 766 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520 When I was in high school, I had seen a little bit of porn, 767 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,480 and I thought it was really disappointing because 768 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,920 my friends and I were somewhat sexually active, 769 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,280 and everything that we did was much more fun 770 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,400 than this porn film that we had managed to get a hold of. 771 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,440 And over time, I thought, okay, well, eventually somebody will 772 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400 start making films that appeal more to me 773 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,800 or feel more like they're coming from a woman's perspective. 774 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,800 So that was always a private fantasy of mine, and then 775 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,440 I went to Harvard for my undergraduate degree, 776 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,680 and nobody ever graduates from Harvard 777 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:15,360 saying, "I'm going to do porn." 778 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560 So the boredom in the films actually triggered you 779 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,720 -to make better films? -Yeah. 780 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,400 When I watched porn, I thought, "This looks 781 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,240 really, um, boring." 782 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,320 The stories are boring, 783 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040 but also the sex itself doesn't have a lot of spark to it. 784 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,280 And that's the thing that I cared most about, was the spark between people. 785 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,320 So I would look for, like, 786 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560 the 10 seconds or 20 seconds in a whole movie 787 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,440 that was really exciting, and I would just watch that 10 seconds. 788 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,720 And after a time, I thought, "That's kind of a low bar. 789 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,800 There should be more of the movie that we want to watch." 790 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,160 But what is it that makes your films different? 791 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,680 Well, I watch a lot of porn that's made for men and by men, 792 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,360 but what I see in those films often is 793 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120 things that I as a woman can't really relate to. 794 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480 So one thing that's super important to me is that 795 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,760 women's pleasure and orgasms be real in the movie. 796 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Because, for me, if that's not there, it's a real deal-breaker for me. 797 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,880 -I can't enjoy it. -Yeah, it definitely needs to look natural. 798 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480 Yeah. Yeah. And so to do that, 799 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,800 what I've learned as a filmmaker is, 800 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,760 I have to create a very safe space on set 801 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,240 and create an environment where the performers have time 802 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,320 to kind of come to orgasm 803 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,360 in their own rhythm. 804 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040 And that's really different than most film sets of any kind 805 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,120 where things are, uh, a little bit on a pace. 806 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,760 I totally agree. 807 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160 Real orgasms are so much better to watch. 808 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080 And why do women fake all of their orgasms? 809 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,080 I mean, don't men like watching women have real orgasms? 810 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,280 Well, in porn, men who watch porn, 811 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,400 I don't think they always can tell the difference between 812 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520 real orgasms and fake orgasms. 813 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,560 I think men would like watching woman have real orgasms, 814 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640 but as a woman, my orgasm-dar-- 815 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,400 like radar, but for orgasms-- is particularly good, 816 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,520 'cause I'm a woman, and that's my body. 817 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,680 So we need a real thing. Just natural. 818 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,600 Definitely. More natural. I mean, the positions 819 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,280 that I like to see in porn 820 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,520 don't have, like, legs spread wide 821 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,440 with no, like, clitoral stimulation, 822 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,360 And then the woman is screaming, but the screams don't even sound 823 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360 like she's having that much fun. 824 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,880 These are things that I wouldn't put in any of my movies, 825 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,800 and I don't think anybody who is making porn 826 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,480 for a female audience would put it in their movies, 827 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600 because it just doesn't feel natural. 828 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,800 But the most important thing is, no matter who you're working with, 829 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,280 you have to make people feel very comfortable. 830 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,960 And in fact, once I decided that I wanted the actors 831 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000 to become more comfortable with each other, 832 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,440 so I had arranged that they should go to the sauna. 833 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,040 And then I thought, you know what? I don't want them to think, like, 834 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,560 "Oh, you two are the performers, and I'm up here, the director." 835 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,200 And then I thought, maybe we should all go to the sauna together 836 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,200 and just kind of get it over with, and we'll all be naked. 837 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,400 -Really? -Yeah. 838 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,000 Like, naked, naked or bikini naked? 839 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,440 [laughs] Uh, we were naked, naked. 840 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640 Wow, that's pretty cool. So, do people 841 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,200 -have assumptions about your life? -Yeah. 842 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,920 Yeah, like, for example, people probably assume that I'm single, 843 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,280 when in fact actually I have a family 844 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,840 and a daughter. 845 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,680 So does being a mom have any effect on your work? 846 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,160 Not really. I, uh... 847 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,320 I'm proud of what I do, 848 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,720 and my daughter doesn't understand it yet 849 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,040 because all she knows is that Mama makes movies for grownups, 850 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640 and she's, uh, not allowed 851 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,880 -anywhere near it, so, uh... -Okay. 852 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,280 So how big is porn for women, actually? 853 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,600 When I started, it was very small. 854 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,840 But now it's grown a lot. 855 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,960 And in fact, now there's a cable channel 856 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960 that just shows porn for women. 857 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960 -[interviewer] That's really cool. -Yeah. 858 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,520 [interviewer] And is porn for women romantic? 859 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480 No. Porn for women is not always romantic. 860 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,720 And you're right that a lot of people assume 861 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,080 that women are only interested in sex if there's romance involved. 862 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,760 But, no, porn for women is really varied. 863 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440 A lot of women really like porn 864 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,440 that's not at all romantic, which is like 865 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600 BDSM porn, for example, which doesn't have 866 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,920 all of those traditional hallmarks of romance. 867 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,840 It's about chemistry and connection 868 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,840 and being super into each other, 869 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,200 but that might have nothing at all to do with romance. 870 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,960 The people might not end up together. 871 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,640 And I really like that because 872 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840 there are so many messages in popular culture 873 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,320 about how women should love romance, and, 874 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640 you know, I think it's nice to get something else from your porn as well. 875 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,240 [laughs] Yeah. 876 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,760 I also like to experiment. 877 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,640 But apart from BDSM, what do women like more? 878 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920 A lot of women watch gay porn, 879 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,800 and a lot of women watch lesbian porn. 880 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,320 -[interviewer] Lesbian porn? -I think if you're looking at real lesbian porn, 881 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,920 like, not fake lesbian porn made for dudes to watch, 882 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760 but where women are really actually enjoying each other 883 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,920 and getting each other off, the technique in there 884 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,320 for going down on each other, for cunnilingus, 885 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520 is so much better than what you might see 886 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,760 in a mainstream porn film that's made for guys, 887 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,640 and I think there are a lot of women who have fantasized 888 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560 about having a same-sex experience. 889 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,360 [interviewer] I get what you're saying. 890 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,120 I'm kind of into women too, sometimes. 891 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,920 Maybe even more than I think I do. 892 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640 Well, you know what I mean, right? 893 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520 -Right? -Okay. 894 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,520 Yeah. Yeah. Um... 895 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,200 But why is gay porn so popular? 896 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,680 Have you seen gay porn? 897 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,600 Well, like, there's so much to like about it, 898 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,280 you know, from a woman's perspective. 899 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,160 One is that, um, 900 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880 the men are very good looking. 901 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,160 You get to see everything. You get to see their bodies, 902 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,440 but you also get to see their faces, 903 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,640 and in some mainstream porn, 904 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,720 you don't get to see either of those things. 905 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520 And in gay porn, that's all there is. 906 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,360 It's... It's really nice to see. 907 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,920 Are there disadvantages in making porn for women? 908 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,760 Well, mostly regular people are super supportive, 909 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,280 but companies are another problem. 910 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,640 Nobody wants to deal with porn, 911 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,240 even if it's really ethical and fun porn. 912 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,920 What I'm making is something that I think 913 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,000 a lot of people really like, and they're just having trouble finding it. 914 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,600 The final question-- 915 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,160 Do women have a higher sex drive? 916 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,040 I don't know if women have a higher sex drive, 917 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,440 but I think women have a sex drive that's at least as high as guys'. 918 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,760 I know that I personally felt, like, weird 919 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,240 because I had a high sex drive, and now that I have met 920 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,720 so many women who are just like me, I know that, 921 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,520 yeah, this is the way women are. 922 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,520 The erotic novel Fifty Shades of Grey 923 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,440 has become the fastest-selling paperback since records began 924 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,480 and is on course to sell one million copies by the end of 2012, 925 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,880 beating J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series 926 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,040 and Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code to the U.K. record. 927 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,040 [woman] 114 million views in the first 24 hours, right? 928 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080 More than Star Wars did in its trailer. 929 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,720 And it's selling at the unheard-of rate of one book a second. 930 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,600 And it's essentially an adult erotic book. 931 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600 Malaysia banned it from theaters, 932 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120 calling it "More pornography than movie." 933 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,000 -[woman] There's a lot of sex. -Yes. 934 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,720 -Graphic sex. -Yes. 935 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,200 But I would say that this movie is a lot more candid about sex 936 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,480 and a lot more articulate about sex than most are. 937 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,360 Unbelievable. This book has taken the world by storm. 938 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960 It's on the cover of Newsweek. It's been featured in Time magazine, 939 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480 it's number one on the best-seller list 940 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,000 in both the New York Times and on Amazon.com. 941 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,360 I cannot get on the subway, 942 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,880 nobody can go to a vacation resort without seeing women 943 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200 holding this book in their hands. 944 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,440 And I wonder if we've turned a page with this book culturally, 945 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,080 that so many people are reading it, 946 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,160 that it has become okay to really talk about sex. 947 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,600 So what is it about bondage, discipline, 948 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600 submission and masochism 949 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,720 that strikes a chord with so many women? 950 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,120 This book is tapping into longings that women have 951 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,920 that I would say particularly the Church 952 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,440 hasn't really acknowledged or addressed, 953 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,920 and women are just flocking to it because they feel like it's going to meet a need. 954 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,240 [narrator] Spending money on sex 955 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440 was traditionally associated with men. 956 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560 But with the economic rise of women, more and more women 957 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,880 have started spending money on their sexual desires-- 958 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,040 so much so that economists 959 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,280 are beginning to re-think women's sexual behavior. 960 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200 One of these economists is Dian Biemans. 961 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,920 According to Ms. Biemans, women may look innocent, 962 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,880 but if we start looking at the numbers, 963 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,600 we will begin to see a very different story. 964 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,760 If you really want to understand women, 965 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440 you need to understand Fifty Shades of Grey. 966 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,120 The reality is that women have bought this erotic novel 967 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,400 in such a volume, that it has surpassed 968 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,280 150 million sales 969 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,400 and was translated into 52 different languages, 970 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,800 elevating it to become one of the most successful pieces of literature 971 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,200 ever written in human history. 972 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,320 That should tell us something about the real desires of women. 973 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,720 And it's certainly not sugar and spice. 974 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,920 I urge people to stop putting women on pedestals 975 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,920 and start looking at the numbers, 976 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,920 because when it comes to sex, 977 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,560 the numbers tell a really different story. 978 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,880 [interviewer] Why is Fifty Shades of Grey so successful? 979 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,880 [Biemans] I think, in order to truly understand 980 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,480 the success of Fifty Shades of Grey, 981 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,520 you need to stop looking at the book and start looking at the author, 982 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,480 a British woman named Mrs. E.L. James 983 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,440 Mrs. James, in all honesty, is an average-looking, 984 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,640 chubby, middle-aged white woman. 985 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,440 There's absolutely nothing unique about her. 986 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,160 She could almost be described as being 100% average. 987 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,560 And that is where her real success lies, 988 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,200 because she asked herself one important question-- 989 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,600 "In what way can I, as an average woman, 990 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,160 have sex with an alpha male 991 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,840 and still retain my innocence?" 992 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640 Fifty Shades of Grey addresses the duality 993 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,840 that almost every woman faces. 994 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,240 I believe that deep inside every woman 995 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,120 is a crazy sex drive waiting to be unleashed. 996 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,720 But at the same time, society teaches women to be 997 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,400 well behaved and proper. 998 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,200 But Fifty Shades of Grey managed to unlock this secret 999 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,120 by allowing a woman's sex drive to be unleashed 1000 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,200 while still maintaining some kind of sexual innocence. 1001 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,600 So Fifty Shades of Grey allows a woman to have the best of both worlds. 1002 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,560 Yes, exactly. But it's not just middle-aged women 1003 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,640 who are spending money on their sexual desires. 1004 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,920 There's another group of women that is far more lucrative. 1005 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,760 Ask any music executive. There is no market 1006 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,080 as lucrative as teenage girls. 1007 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,120 They are more devoted, and they spend more money than any other group. 1008 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,880 They even have words to describe the sexual obsession-- 1009 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,200 "Bieber fever" or "One Direction affection." 1010 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,360 Just think about it. 1011 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,600 It's girls who hyperventilate 1012 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,280 just thinking about boys. 1013 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,280 It's girls who take off their underwear and throw it at boys. 1014 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,560 I don't see boys taking off their boxers. Only girls do that. 1015 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,480 Let me just read you some numbers. 1016 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,680 "1,500 security personnel, 1017 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:41,160 including 500 policemen, private security guards, 1018 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,080 and 25 emergency response officers." 1019 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,880 I'm not talking about the security of the president. 1020 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,800 I'm just listing the security at a Justin Bieber concert. 1021 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,840 And this security is seriously necessary. 1022 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,720 And the past several shows had to be canceled because 1023 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,680 the police could not control the screaming fans. 1024 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,760 -That is incredible. -Yes. 1025 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,800 Some might even argue 1026 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,640 that women end up spending more money on sex than men. 1027 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,200 But unlike men, women are spending more money indirectly. 1028 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,000 For example, some studies show that 1029 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,000 women who buy three-inch-high heels 1030 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,160 are almost twice as likely to receive sexual attention from men 1031 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,440 than women who buy flat shoes. 1032 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,440 And makeup functions the same way. 1033 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,040 Women want to look sexy and attractive, 1034 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,840 so much so that they end up spending 1035 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,280 incredible amounts on beauty products. 1036 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,360 And just to bring a statistic for comparison, 1037 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,040 American men are spending approximately 1038 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,120 13 billion dollars a year on porn-related products, 1039 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,560 while women end up spending approximately 13 billion on makeup, 1040 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,920 and that doesn't even include skin care, perfumes and hair products. 1041 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,960 I think one of the most interesting statistics are vibrator sales. 1042 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,360 Right now the market for vibrators is $2.9 billion, 1043 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,480 while the market for Internet porn is just $2.8 billion. 1044 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,720 That's right. Women spend more money on vibrators 1045 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,320 than men spend on watching Internet porn. 1046 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,240 -So, do you think women have a higher sex drive? -Yes. 1047 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,400 I think sexuality is more a part of a woman's identity, 1048 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,400 in the clothes we wear, the makeup we put on. 1049 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,400 I think we are much more aware of our own sexuality. 1050 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,400 But I don't think men 1051 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,240 display their sexuality that much. 1052 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,160 Sometimes I can walk around all day feeling sexy, 1053 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,400 but I don't think most men will ever feel that way. 1054 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,160 [male TV announcer] Why more and more men are ditching marriage, 1055 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,000 fatherhood, even the American dream. 1056 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,160 The reason will surprise you and perhaps make you nauseous. 1057 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,720 So many women staying single, more than ever before. 1058 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,880 'Cause we won't settle for a lesser love. 1059 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,600 We now have the financial security 1060 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,080 and all of the education and the independence 1061 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,560 as modern women to wait for the right love, 1062 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,680 and we won't settle for less. 1063 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,920 And when they marry somebody who's less successful, 1064 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,560 their marriages are less satisfying and more likely to end in divorce. 1065 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,720 [man] Recent genetic research has shown that 1066 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,080 before the modern era, almost all women 1067 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,400 managed to reproduce, while most of the men did not. 1068 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920 The conclusion from this is that a few top men 1069 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,960 had access to multiple women, 1070 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,720 while most men had no mating prospects at all. 1071 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,080 Anywhere from 73% to 93% 1072 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,000 of the world's societies have been polygamists. 1073 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,640 And the Greeks are the first really clearly attested 1074 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,960 well-known society that turns towards monogamy. 1075 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,600 The question is, why? 1076 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,480 The good answer that's been given is democracy. 1077 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,960 Monogamy is democratic. 1078 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,080 This is saying nothing of women. 1079 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,960 The losers in a polygamist society are poor men. 1080 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,600 They don't have mates. They become violent and an unstable element in society. 1081 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,840 So they've given up reading, writing, 1082 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,600 communicating, exercising, playing sports. 1083 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,120 And for those of you who think that's not that big of a deal, it actually is, 1084 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,200 because the birthrate in the country is declining rapidly. 1085 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,680 [narrator] Recent studies in psychology 1086 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,240 have dramatically changed the way we look at men and women. 1087 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,880 For years, psychologists thought that 1088 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,360 society controlled women's sexuality. 1089 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,920 But modern psychologists are beginning to challenge this theory 1090 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,200 and are finding new evidence that is suggesting the exact opposite. 1091 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:30,840 Today I'm very excited to meet one of these psychologists, 1092 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,440 the published author and TED Talks speaker 1093 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,520 Katarina Gabrova. 1094 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,520 She believes that women are driven by deep sexual urges, 1095 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,280 and that once we begin to look at sex through the lens of psychology, 1096 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,920 things will begin to look quite different. 1097 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,560 There is a saying that 1098 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,440 everything in the word is about sex 1099 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,800 except sex itself, 1100 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,640 because sex is about power. 1101 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,920 And when you ask me, "Do women have a higher sex drive?" 1102 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,600 you are not really asking me who has a higher sex drive, 1103 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,720 but your real question is, 1104 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,200 "Who has more power?" 1105 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,600 And I think that is 1106 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,920 a very dangerous question. 1107 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,760 But I'll try to answer it with three theories 1108 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,800 linked to female power and sexuality. 1109 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,120 The first may be the most interesting one. 1110 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,160 Have you ever heard of a man called Edward Bernays? 1111 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,920 [interviewer] You mean the psychologist? 1112 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Well, not a psychologist himself, 1113 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,200 although he did become quite famous 1114 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,960 for using reverse psychology on women. 1115 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,280 You see, in the 1920s, 1116 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,760 an American tobacco company hired Bernays 1117 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,560 to encourage women to start smoking. 1118 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,720 That was a period when most men used to smoke cigarettes, 1119 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,680 but women were not allowed to smoke in public 1120 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,280 as it was seen as something indecent or un-ladylike. 1121 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,320 But Bernays had an unusual plan. 1122 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,400 He actually hired a psychoanalyst 1123 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,480 to help him research the psychology of women 1124 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,480 and discovered that women 1125 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,880 were driven by deep, primitive 1126 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,480 sexual and competitive urges. 1127 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,480 And since it was a very male-driven society, 1128 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,800 he believed that women 1129 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,880 subconsciously had penis envy 1130 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,200 and viewed cigarettes as a symbol of the penis. 1131 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,680 He realized that if he could connect cigarettes 1132 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,880 with the idea of challenging male power, 1133 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,440 then women would begin smoking, 1134 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,440 because then women would feel like 1135 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,440 they had their own penises 1136 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,960 and therefore male power. 1137 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,600 But in order to achieve his goal, 1138 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,320 Edward Bernays did a very unusual thing. 1139 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,440 He secretly started working with feminists, 1140 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,280 linking smoking to the equality movement, 1141 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,600 convincing women that smoking 1142 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,440 is the same as having equal rights. 1143 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,720 And his plan was very successful because, soon after, 1144 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,280 the sales of cigarettes to women skyrocketed. 1145 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,720 [interviewer] So women began smoking 1146 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,280 -because they wanted male power? -Exactly. 1147 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,040 Now, the second theory has to do with natural selection. 1148 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,000 Throughout most of human history, 1149 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,240 almost all societies have been polygamous. 1150 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,800 And I know this may be hard to believe, 1151 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,760 but according to the social psychologist Roy Baumeister, 1152 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,960 polygamy actually benefits most women 1153 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,920 and is actually a female-driven decision. 1154 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,040 Because most women would rather be the second 1155 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,400 or the third wife of a handsome and rich man 1156 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,640 than the only wife of an average or poor one. 1157 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,480 So for example, most women wouldn't mind to be one 1158 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,400 of the many wives of, let's say, Brad Pitt or Ryan Gosling. 1159 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,480 They would rather do that than being 1160 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,960 the only wife of a construction worker. 1161 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,120 So it's similar to the 80/20% rule. 1162 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,240 Yes. The so-called law of the vital few. 1163 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,520 And in fact contrary to popular belief, 1164 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,520 recent studies suggest 1165 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,560 that humanity is not led by the choices of men 1166 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,280 but by the choices of women. 1167 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,960 You see, genetic research shows that for most of human history, 1168 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,400 80% of women managed to reproduce, 1169 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,840 while only 40% of men did. 1170 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,000 This actually means that most men who ever lived 1171 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160 did not even get a chance to reproduce. 1172 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,480 And I think that this difference 1173 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,560 is the single most unappreciated fact about gender. 1174 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,320 What this actually means is 1175 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,840 that women decide whose genes carry on, not men. 1176 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,920 And that brings me to the third theory. 1177 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,960 I think that sex in its ultimate form 1178 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,240 is the transfer of power. 1179 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,440 Men need power in order to gain access to sex, 1180 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,080 but once they are having it, they lose power. 1181 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,360 But a woman's power increases. 1182 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920 -[interviewer] Are you talking about orgasms? -Yes. 1183 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,520 While the average orgasms of both genders are similar, 1184 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,400 if we are comparing the best of the best, 1185 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,280 I think it's fair to say that men simply cannot 1186 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,960 match the power of the most intense female orgasm. 1187 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,240 In fact, according to Drs. Kaneko and Kitamura, 1188 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,800 the female orgasm can be 10 times more powerful 1189 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,040 than the male orgasm. 1190 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,160 And according to these authors, should we run the intensity 1191 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,920 of a female orgasm through a male's brain, 1192 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,840 there is a danger that such a shock to their system 1193 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,960 could actually kill them. 1194 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,200 -Are you serious? -Yes. 1195 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,600 According to these doctors it may be possible. 1196 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,920 If we are looking at the anatomical differences, 1197 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,680 the female clitoris contains 15,000 nerve endings, 1198 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,960 while the head of the penis only has 4,000 nerve endings. 1199 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,360 And can you imagine what it's like when these 15,000 1200 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,640 sexual nerve endings fire all at once? 1201 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,040 Well, it creates force-- a force so strong 1202 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,520 that it almost shuts down a woman's brain. 1203 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,520 And at that point, all memory, emotions 1204 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,920 and reasoning functions stop. 1205 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360 And this event is so powerful 1206 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,200 that some may even call it spiritual. 1207 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,480 -Spiritual? -Yes. 1208 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,080 Most people only know about two dimensions 1209 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,400 when they are talking about sexual activity-- 1210 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,680 the physical and emotional. 1211 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,600 But some women can reach a third dimension 1212 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,840 when they climax: the spiritual. 1213 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,600 They describe it as a place where they can finally let go 1214 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,080 of all the physical and emotional baggage. 1215 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,160 So you don't actually leave your body, 1216 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,960 but you have the feel that you have left everything behind. 1217 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,880 Yes. Exactly. 1218 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,920 [narrator] Katarina was right. 1219 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,520 When I have sex, all of my troubles float away. 1220 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,040 I don't have to think about any obligations. 1221 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,160 I can just let go 1222 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,680 and enjoy intimacy. 1223 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,200 Now for the big question-- 1224 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,480 Who has a higher sex drive? 1225 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,760 Everyone has a different opinion, 1226 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,960 but in my journey, I found out 1227 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,400 that we can experience sex as spiritual, 1228 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,440 we have multiple ways to orgasm, and that almost every woman 1229 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,800 has a bisexual side. 1230 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,600 That's why I think that women have a higher sex drive. 1231 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,120 But the world might have a different view. 1232 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,280 I was taught to think about sex in a certain way-- 1233 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,720 that a woman is prude when she doesn't have sex 1234 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,920 and that she's a slut when she does; 1235 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,320 that men shouldn't show their submissive side; 1236 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,480 and that genders can't be sexually fluid. 1237 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,280 But sex is more. It's more than just reproduction. 1238 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,800 It's more than your sexual orientation. 1239 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,920 It's more than an action. 1240 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,600 The world has become adjusted to only 1241 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,880 one idea of sex. 1242 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,200 But as humans, we are capable of so much more. 1243 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,040 [end music] 1244 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,560 [upbeat music] 96136

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