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- [Narrator] I love you.
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- Frederick, Maureen, welcome.
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Did you find the place okay?
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- It's Rick.
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Dr. Rick if you don't mind.
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Just sort of a respect thing.
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- Yeah, sorry about that, I
made the appointment, so--
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- What is the work that you do?
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- You don't know?
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- I'm not familiar, I'm sorry.
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- Yeah I kept, I mean, I
just made the appointment,
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I didn't get into--
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- I have a television show.
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It is the third highest rated
daytime television show,
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second doctor show.
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- You're also a licensed
therapist, is that correct?
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- Well, I have a masters in social work,
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but in fact, my doctorate
is in library science.
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Nevertheless--
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- But you are licensed, right?
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- Yeah, I have a license--
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- It doesn't cover--
- To practice psychotherapy.
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- To practice counseling.
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- Oh okay.
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But not psychotherapy.
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- Well, it's psychological counseling.
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- Okay.
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- Social work and a head
shot, basically what...
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- So why don't you tell me a
little bit about how you met,
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and what is so great
about your relationship?
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- Do you want me to tell the story?
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- Go ahead, okay.
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I sold him a house.
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Go ahead.
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- Exactly.
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About a year ago, I got divorced.
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Part of the structure of the divorce
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was I wound up having to buy a new house.
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So I wanted to be in Brentwood,
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I had been forever in Beverly
Hills, I was sick of it.
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So I called up a broker,
and luckily enough,
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I wound up with Maureen.
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- Here we are.
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(laughing)
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- Oh, there we go.
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- Here we go.
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She showed me, almost intuitively,
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a house that fit my needs perfectly.
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Eleven bedrooms, lovely pool, really nice.
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At quite a good price, I thought.
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- It's the only house I
actually had on the market,
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so I didn't have, I didn't have choices.
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But yeah, it worked out that--
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- Is that right?
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- Yeah, that's the only house
I had listed at that time.
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- I'm disappointed, I
thought it was because
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you knew me so well instantly.
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Anyway, she showed me the
house, I loved the house,
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and I was rather intrigued, if I may say,
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with Maureen as a woman.
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So after things concluded,
business-wise, I said to her,
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"Maybe you'd like to go out
and have dinner sometime?"
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So she did, and we liked
each other right away,
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and about, I guess about six
weeks after the closing, right?
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We moved in together, in the new house,
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about two months after
that, we were married.
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- Yeah, it all moved quickly
by anyone's standards, really.
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- Yes.
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- What were some of the details
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that you found so lovely about her?
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- I just dug her, you know.
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She was Midwestern, and
full of optimism, and sweet,
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and kind, and she was open to
all kinds of new experiences,
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and excited about the
possibilities in life.
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Did you remember to call the sink guy?
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Sink in the kitchen's way stopped up.
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- Oh, no need, I unclogged
it, don't ask me how.
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- Can you tell me a little bit
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about your relationship history?
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- How long is the session?
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This is my fifth marriage.
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- Wooo.
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- The previous marriage,
the one that I got out of
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not too long before Maureen and I met,
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was a really, really unpleasant marriage.
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The woman that I got married
to was kind of a dragon lady,
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took me in a very acrimonious divorce
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for a great deal of money.
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She had had a son,
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whom I adopted as my own,
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he's involved with the Stormer Movement,
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do you know what that is?
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- No, I'm not familiar.
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- [Dr. Rick] Well, his
real name is Joshua,
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but he's taken on the name Rolf,
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kind of extreme right wing--
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- [Maureen] Nazi. Like a Nazi.
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- Well, that might be a little severe,
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but let's just say that
he belongs to this group--
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- Swastikas and stuff, like swastika hats.
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- Every Wednesday he goes to a meeting
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called "The Holocaust was Faked,"
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and he often comes over to
sponge a little money from me.
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- And you're Jewish, is that correct?
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- Yes.
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- Oh. Oh.
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- So that's like a Jew Christmas tree?
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Do you have any money?
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- So, you're not raking it in
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as a full time member of the party?
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He's also a big flat-Earther.
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He has a big sign on the back of his Mazda
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saying the Earth is flat.
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- He believes the Earth is...
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- He might believe it,
although having traveled--
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- I think he does,
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and that's probably why
he doesn't drive too far.
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- For fear that he'd fall off, you mean?
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- Yes.
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- You might be right, I don't know.
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- He stays within a certain distance,
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and I believe it's because
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he is afraid of driving
off the edge of it.
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See, I don't have a problem
with him coming over.
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- You're able to see the good in him?
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- I think part of me is
trying to embrace this person
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as a family member for myself,
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and I guess I've just never known
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what it's like to feel like a mother, so.
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- To share your love.
- Yes.
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- So after his weekly "the
Holocaust was Faked" meeting,
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you'd like to take him to the
zoo, or maybe to the museum.
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- [Maureen] Yes, I would
love, see, because I think
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why not try and be an
influence on this man-child?
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Take his mind off of--
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- The master race.
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- The master race.
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- Sounds like you are having a hard time
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with some of Maureen's ideas.
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- I mean, I think you've
taken on certain things
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that I wonder about the validity of,
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like your interest in feng shui--
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- It's feng shui.
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- And in particular,
towards my office space,
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my sanctum sanctorum.
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I mean, I have my stuff there,
I have my books, my desk,
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my computer, my two Peabodys,
my six Daytime Emmys,
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things that really mean something to me.
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- It's really a part of who you are.
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- Well, it used to be a part of who I am,
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until Maureen took it upon
herself to get involved
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with the chi of the
room, and move the forms,
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meaning moving the furniture all around,
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and now it's kind of more like a mess.
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- You're upset with her feng shui?
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- Yes, exactly.
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- [Therapist] It felt like it
really challenged who you are?
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- Well, it made me kind of dizzy,
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it was my own personal Hell.
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- It was very hurtful.
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- It was very dusty.
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- And what's that other
spiritual thing you do?
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I can't remember the name of
it, that guru guy that you see?
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What is his name?
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- Haberdashery?
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- Haberdashery?
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Doesn't that mean men's clothes?
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- It's his name, it's
the spirit Haberdashery.
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- I have noticed, I must
admit, that sometimes,
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even late at night, you
feel a strong compulsion
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to do some sort of spiritual
recharging with your guru,
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Mr. Haberdashery.
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- All I do is I run around the yard.
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I'm blowing off my spirit-steam.
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- Are you sure that's
all you're blowing off?
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- That's all I'm blowing off,
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and Shery stands outside
the gate and just,
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he can see the aura of my soul stream,
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as I'm running around.
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And each time I come all the way around,
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and by the way, it's a big lot,
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I'm exhausted at the end of it.
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My soul is exhausted, but it works.
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- That sounds like it
does something for you,
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it really helps.
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- It does, it is that release,
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so if I'm laying there next
to him, and I'm all pent up,
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then yeah, I'm gonna
take some laps around,
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and blow my spirit steam off.
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And Shery's outside the gate, big whoop.
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(coughing)
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- You couldn't have like a
cardboard cutout of Shery
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since all you're really doing
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is running around the property?
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- I'm not gonna--
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- Well, it sounds like it upsets you
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when she leaves at night.
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- Worship false gods.
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- You mentioned your TV show,
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could you tell me a little bit about that?
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- Well, as you know, I have a very popular
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daytime television show, where
I attempt to help people,
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often women, but it could
be people of either sex,
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whose lives--
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- It's all women.
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It's all women.
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- Mostly women.
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Mostly women.
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But that's because who watches television
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during the daytime for the most part.
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- Guys watch TV too.
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- And how does that feel for you,
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that there are so many women
that he sees on the show
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on a daily basis?
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- Well, for starters, a lot of these women
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certainly don't look
like they have problems.
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They look pretty well put
together, wouldn't you say?
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- In a perfect world, what kind of a man
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do you see yourself attached to?
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- I see myself with Dr. Rick.
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- We'll be back in a
moment, right after this.
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And let me point out that
I don't choose the clients,
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the producers do.
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- Well I don't exactly see
you objecting to that, either.
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- I don't object--
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- Well, I think what's important here
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is how it feels for the two
of you in the relationship.
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It sounds like for you,
Maureen, it's very upsetting.
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- I visited him on set, I
don't do that too often,
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I occasionally will catch
the show, but I did go,
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and he was with one of the clients/ladies,
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and when the camera went off,
they continued a conversation,
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and it makes me very
uncomfortable and nervous,
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because it really sort of was
about the same sorts of things
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that you said to me, which is like,
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"You don't see value in yourself,
and you're not gonna find
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"somebody of value until
you value yourself."
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And I'm like--
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- Maureen, which woman
are you talking about?
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- "Catch me on the flip-flop, Daddy."
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- She's one of the most troubled,
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really really messed up women, or people,
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that I've ever had on the show.
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There's a big internet meme
that was created around her,
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"Catch you on the flip-flop, Daddy."
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(mumbling incoherently)
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- Please Christine, Christine--
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- Catch me on the flip-flop, Daddy!
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Catch me on the flip-flop!
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Y'all don't know (beep)!
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- He asked her out
afterwards, I mean they went--
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- When you say "asked her out,"
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I think that's a confusing term.
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- Well, okay, let me try and paraphrase,
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"Would you care to take this
conversation to a restaurant,
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"let me take you out to dinner."
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- Wait a second, you're painting
a very inaccurate picture,
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this is a deeply, deeply troubled--
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- Well I don't wanna get
into the details as much--
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- But it's important.
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It's important for you to understand.
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- Well, yes, it's important.
- This is a--
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- It's important enough that
I made this appointment.
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- I think what's happening here
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is that you're both telling
each other's side of the story,
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and I wonder if you can
understand each other.
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- Well, like what?
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- Well maybe, how about, in your library?
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You and your library science license,
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and you can sit in your library and--
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- In my personal library
at home, you mean?
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- And therapize her...
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- You want me to bring her into the house?
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- That's, well, sure, mmm hmm.
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- Well, I don't really
have a problem with that,
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as long as you don't feel
the need to constantly
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peep and check and make
sure that everything's okay,
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because I think that would
interfere with her feeling
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that she could reveal the
intimate details of her life.
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- Well, it's a lot simpler that
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than having to drive by these restaurants
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when you're at them, because--
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- Wait a second, drive
by these restaurants?
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This is what you've been doing?
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- Okay, well that's about all
the time we have today, so--
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- What do you mean "that's
about all the time we have?"
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- Yeah, it's only an hour.
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- This is kind of a major
revelation, don't you think?
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- Paid for an hour, so...
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- We could make another
appointment, if you wanna explore--
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- Fantastic.
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Catch you on the flip-flop, Daddy.
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(laughing)
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- He is funny.
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