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Do you think you'd be
okay speaking on camera?
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So we can show you as Siti's friend?
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But I want to protect my identity.
What if people say,
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"That girl is the friend of a murderer"?
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We were friends. We liked to hang out.
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We liked talking, eating, shopping.
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Hi.
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Siti's really pretty and down to earth.
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Somebody is having a baby...
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She was always making jokes.
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She's friendly and "happy go lucky."
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Thank you. Buh-bye.
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This is her last Facebook post.
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The night before the murder,
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Siti celebrated her
birthday at Hard Rock Cafe.
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Siti!
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Here we go!
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One, two, three!
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♪ Happy birthday to you... ♪
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She seemed really happy.
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♪ Happy birthday... ♪
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We couldn't believe that she
murdered someone the next morning.
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We are back with
an apparent assassination,
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brazenly carried out
at an international airport.
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Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother
of the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un,
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was murdered in Malaysia...
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...the sudden and mysterious
death of the half-brother
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of the North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un.
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Kim Jong-nam was at the
Kuala Lumpur International Airport
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when he was reportedly poisoned.
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...after he was sprayed
in the face with a chemical.
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...by two female
assassins...
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A cold-blooded execution,
straight from a spy movie,
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local media reports say.
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Two femme fatale killers
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poisoning a mysterious political
figure with a chemical weapon.
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Malaysian police said
the poison used
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was the deadly VX nerve agent.
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...one of the fastest-acting fatal
poisons that exists, according to scientists.
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The U.S. and
South Korea believe the murder
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was an assassination organized
by North Korean agents.
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But North Korea
denies involvement in the crime.
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Tonight, little is
known about the two women
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who have just been arrested
in connection with the murder.
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Were the women trained assassins
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or innocent pawns of
North Korean agents?
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I started covering the
Kim Jong-nam murder trial
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from day one, when the first news broke.
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A reporter's job is to
tell the world the truth.
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But in Malaysia,
the freedom of press is limited.
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Most of the big media agencies
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are owned by the government.
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So, it's hard to get the truth out.
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But, I am lucky that my media
organization is not a local one.
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So we are quite open
with what we can publish.
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It's one of those big stories that is a
dream for a reporter to report on.
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So around 9 AM, Kim Jong-nam walked
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through this entrance to the terminal.
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He was just alone. No one was with him.
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And right behind this column,
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there was one woman waiting for him.
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This is Siti Aisyah,
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the woman in a light gray shirt.
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And from that way,
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Doan Thi Huong was coming towards him.
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She was wearing a white
T-shirt that says "LOL."
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So he was supposed to print
out his boarding pass,
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but before he was able to do that,
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Kim Jong-nam was jumped
by Siti Aisyah and Doan.
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And they allegedly smeared
VX chemical onto his face.
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The women ran away.
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And then from the CCTV footage you
can clearly see that Kim Jong-nam was
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making this gesture to police officers
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that these two women came up
to smear his face with a chemical.
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And from there the police officers
escorted Kim Jong-nam towards the clinic.
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You can see that he is starting to limp,
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like he has already been
affected by something.
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He was given medical attention,
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but within an hour, he was dead.
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Meanwhile, the two women,
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they both went down to
level 2 to the toilet
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to wash their hands.
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It seems to suggest that
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they knew that the chemical on their hands
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is something dangerous.
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They have a certain
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cool, calculative
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confidence in their walk.
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Here is what I find interesting, because
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she's walking and then she...
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she looked into the CCTV camera.
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As if challenging, you know?
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Yeah, I just did that. So what?
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Well, one thing is clear.
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This is one of the most bizarre
murder plots in decades.
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It really is incredible,
when you look at this woman,
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who is acting in broad daylight.
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Who are these women,
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and do they work
for the North Korean regime?
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Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong
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were charged with exposing
the deadly nerve agent VX
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to Kim Jong-nam's face.
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Doan Thi Huong and Siti
Aisyah were arrested
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and now face the death penalty by hanging.
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I didn't know at first.
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ASRIA NUR HASAN:
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I was at prayer.
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Praying.
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Reciting Qur'an at a funeral.
A friend had died.
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And then I found out.
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I felt,
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how could I, as a parent...
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it felt like...
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how could something like this happen?
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What could have brought
her to do such a thing?
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I think she didn't know what she was doing.
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If I asked her to do something,
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she would do it.
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That's the kind of person she is.
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I've never actually seen
this photo.
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Wow.
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My obsession with North Korea
goes back a long way.
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I started covering North Korea
in 2004.
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And I have not stopped yet.
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So, when the assassination
happened,
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I came out of a yoga class, it
was like nine o'clock at night,
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and I looked at my phone
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and saw it had blown up.
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Kim Jong-nam has been
assassinated.
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Kim Jong-nam, at one point,
was the favorite son of Kim Jong-il,
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the former leader of
North Korea.
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He has been known as
a potential rival for Kim Jong-un.
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And it's raising suspicions
that Kim Jong-un
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may have once again marked one
of his own relatives for death.
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It was so surprising to
me, you know, the footage,
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to see Kim Jong-nam
standing in this airport.
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I mean, it's so amazing
to think, you know,
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I was trying to find Kim Jong-nam for
several years before he was killed,
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and just to see him walking
around, no hat, no sunglasses.
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It's really like, wow, I wish I
had have been able to talk to him.
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And there's this myth
that the Kim family
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was descended from Mount Paektu,
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which is this mountain
at the top of North Korea
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on the border with China,
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that is the mythical home
of all Korean people.
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And so the Kim regime
has used this to say,
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"We were divinely ordained
to lead North Korea,"
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and it's called
the Paektu bloodline.
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So Kim Il-sung passed down
the leadership of North Korea
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to his son, Kim Jong-il,
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using this whole Paektu
bloodline mythology
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as the basis for his legitimacy.
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So when it came time
for Kim Jong-il
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to anoint one of his sons,
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it should have gone
to Kim Jong-nam.
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Are you Kim Jong-nam?
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- Are you Kim Jong-nam?
- No.
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I cannot tell you.
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It's my privacy, man.
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Kim Jong-nam was the
first-born son of Kim Jong-il.
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And, in fact,
Kim Jong-nam's mother
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was a famous actress
who Kim Jong-il spotted
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and took her basically
as his wife.
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But Kim Jong-il really doted
on Kim Jong-nam.
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He was absolutely besotted
with this boy
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and really seemed to relish his
time as a father at the beginning.
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Kim Jong-nam and Kim Jong-un
grew up entirely separate.
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They had different mothers.
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And there's a 10-year
age difference.
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Kim Jong-un's mother was another
woman, she was a famous dancer,
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and was very ambitious
and very present.
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She was advocating and agitating
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for her son, for him to be
the leader of North Korea,
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and she had a very powerful
influence in the system there.
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So, at the beginning
of the 2000s,
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Kim Jong-nam was caught in this
very embarrassing situation.
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He had taken
his young family to Tokyo
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and was busted
by the Japanese police.
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He'd gone in under a fake
Dominican Republic passport,
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using a Chinese name, Pang
Xiong, which means "fat bear."
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And he said, you know, he just
wanted to take his kid to Disneyland.
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It was extremely embarrassing
for the regime.
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America is North Korea's
number-one enemy
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and Disneyland, you know,
can you get more American than Disneyland?
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But, in fact, there were rumors
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that Kim Jong-un's mother actually
tipped off the Japanese police
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to the arrival of Kim Jong-nam
in Japan
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because she wanted to make sure
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that he could not become the
next leader of North Korea.
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So, Kim Jong-nam struck
a deal with his father
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to be allowed to leave
North Korea.
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He moved to Macau,
a Chinese territory,
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where he was able to live
a kind of normal life.
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But he was ruled out
of the succession line.
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And throughout history,
we've seen
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brothers being sidelined
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in this way.
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From Cain and Abel to Romulus and
Remus at the foundation of Rome.
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Brothers are so threatening
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because they can stake a claim
to leadership
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that nobody else can.
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So, when I discovered that
Kim Jong-nam had been killed,
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I hopped on the first flight
that I could get to Kuala Lumpur.
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Good morning, everyone.
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Welcome to the foreign journalists,
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welcome to Malaysia as well.
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We have arrested two ladies,
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and we have identified both of them.
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The Malaysian police announced that they have
arrested Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong.
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They also announced there were
eight North Korean suspects.
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And out of those eight,
four of them were at the airport
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on the same day as Siti Aisyah and Doan,
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And they left the country immediately
after Kim Jong-nam's attack.
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And then, they also announced the arrest of
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one North Korean guy,
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Ri Jong Choi.
who was living in Malaysia
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and he happens to be a chemist.
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Ri Jong Choi,
the suspect that was detained...
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Can you clear up, because there are rumors that
he was the driver or he was a chemistry expert...
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He is subject of our investigation.
How can we tell you?
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We found out that Ri Jong Choi is
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on the payroll of the North Korean embassy.
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He lives in a house paid by the North
Korean government in Kuala Lumpur.
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I was just wondering...
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the two female suspects,
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did they know the substance was toxic?
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Well, I think you have
seen the video, right?
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You have seen the -
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the lady who was moving away
with her hands like this,
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towards the bathroom. Towards the washroom.
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So she knew very well that
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it is toxic and she
needs to wash her hands.
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Hello.
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Yes, speaking.
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Yes.
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Because our theory is that this was
a political assassination.
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More than just the two girls being involved
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in an ordinary murder case.
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Well, we do not know exactly what type of
evidence the police have in hand.
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When we approach any case,
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we will not accept what
our client tells us.
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We will investigate on our own and see
whether our client is telling the truth.
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After Siti Aisyah was arrested,
we saw her the very next day.
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And there in prison, there were
other inmates who told her that,
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"You are going to be the next 'BA.'"
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"BA" is the -
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banduan akhir.
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That means on death row.
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You are going to be the next one.
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In Malaysia, if they're found guilty,
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then it's a mandatory death sentence.
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That is hanging by the
neck until you are dead.
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They will put a sandbag,
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which would be sufficient to snap
your neck immediately when...
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You will die instantaneously.
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Okay, all right, then.
I will check that. Thank you.
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We advised her to be very careful
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not to talk about her story to anyone,
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even Doan.
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Because we don't know Doan's story.
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The girls don't know each other,
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and we don't know whether Doan is
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working together with the North Koreans.
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Not bad, eh?
I can get the documents I want.
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Very organized.
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Okay, this is quite clear.
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The victim is here.
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And then I think the
incident takes place...
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Okay, this is on the day
of the incident itself.
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This is her action of putting
up the hands like that.
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And that is the crucial moment.
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I first met Doan in prison.
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There were two officers from
the Vietnamese embassy and myself.
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And when she was brought to us,
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she was happy to see
officers of the embassy,
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who could speak her own language.
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She was hopeful then at that point of time.
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These are all the certificates Doan
has earned since she was little.
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She was always well-behaved,
a good student.
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Nothing troublesome.
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We are farmers, my parents were farmers.
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Doan's mother passed away three years ago,
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before all this happened.
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Doan was a good girl.
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She was even terrified
of butchering a chicken.
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She wouldn't dare kill it.
I always had to do it for her.
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She went to Hanoi for
college a few years ago.
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I think the world out there seduced her.
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When suddenly this happened,
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everybody in the family was shocked.
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I sent her a letter encouraging her
that if she did do it,
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she should confess it.
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Whatever she did or however it happened,
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only she knows.
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We love her very much,
but we don't know how to help her.
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It has been seven days since the incident.
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There is an allegation that the
arrested female suspects murdered him.
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The Malaysian police are desperate
to shift the blame on us.
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Last Friday night,
they raided the condominium
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of our citizen here in Kuala Lumpur
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and forcibly arrested him.
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The North Korean ambassador in Malaysia
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held a press conference
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talking about Ri Jong Chol,
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the North Korean chemist who was arrested.
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This is a grave human rights violation.
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Saying that they have distrust
in the Malaysian police investigation.
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Malaysia reacted
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by expelling the North Korean ambassador.
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From there, North Korea issued a ban
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on Malaysians leaving North Korea.
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So all these people who are
embassy staff and their families,
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they are trapped in North Korea.
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So they are basically hostages.
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And then, in March,
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Malaysia and North Korea
actually had a negotiation.
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North Korea demanded the
release of Ri Jong Choi,
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as well as the release of two suspects
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who were hiding in the
North Korean embassy.
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They are a North Korean embassy official
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and an employee of Air Koryo,
the North Korean national airline.
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They also demanded the body of Kim Jong-nam
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to be sent back to North Korea.
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After years in exile,
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the murdered half-brother
of North Korea's dictator
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has finally gone home.
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It's a clean sweep
tonight for Kim Jong-un.
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North Korea's dangerous young
leader has gotten the body
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of his murdered half-brother
Kim Jong-nam.
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And Malaysia has released
three North Koreans
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wanted for questioning
in the murder.
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Chaos at Beijing's
airport Friday
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as North Korean Ri Jong Chol
made his way through the crowd.
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Ri was released and then
deported by Malaysian authorities
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after being held as a suspect
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in the murder of North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un's estranged half-brother.
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It was very difficult to
bear but I said to myself
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that I must get through this,
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because I cannot let them do this
to me as a North Korean citizen,
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when they dare to trample
on the honor of North Korea.
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At the same time,
Malaysia got back nine of its citizens,
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who had been stuck in North Korea
during this diplomatic standoff.
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The Malaysians insist
that the three North Koreans
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were not traded
for nine hostages.
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We are finished with them,
so that's why we allowed them to go.
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Malaysia is one of those weird countries who
actually has diplomatic relations with North Korea.
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A good working relationship
with North Korea.
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It is very, very suspicious.
349
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Why did you allow such important
witnesses to go back to North Korea?
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If you decide to save the nine Malaysian hostages
in exchange for all those that they demanded,
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I feel that they don't have the right
to charge the two girls,
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because you have compromised
their right of defense.
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The trial begins today
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for the two women accused
of murdering Kim Jong-nam,
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the half-brother
of the North Korean premier.
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The women claim
hey are innocent.
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If found guilty, they face
Malaysia's mandatory death penalty.
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PROSECUTOR: Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong
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PROSECUTOR: are each charged with murder
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PROSECUTOR: along with four others at large
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PROSECUTOR: against a man named Kim Chol.
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Inside the courtroom, the prosecution is
referring to Kim Jong-nam as "Kim Chol,"
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which is the take name that
appears on his passport.
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And what was interesting
and perhaps controversial,
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is that the prosecution also charged
four North Koreans who are still at large,
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but was very reluctant to
name the four North Koreans.
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HISYAM: I think we ought to know before
the trial starts who the four persons are.
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HISYAM: The prosecution has
got a legal duty to disclose,
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HISYAM: at the same time
a moral duty to disclose.
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JUDGE: I find the
omission to state the name
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JUDGE: of the four persons at large
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JUDGE: does not make the charge ambiguous.
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JUDGE: Objection is hereby overruled.
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It was not a good start
for us.
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No matter what the position
that the prosecution is taking,
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you cannot ignore the political
angle of the assassination.
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Kim Jong-il died in 2011.
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And Kim Jong-un was officially
unveiled as the successor
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when he was 25 years old.
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There was a great deal of skepticism
when Kim Jong-un was announced.
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He had no experience.
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He was barely out of college
at that stage.
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And there was the question
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if the old guard in North
Korea, if they would tolerate
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this young upstart coming in
and ordering them around.
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00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:59,582
So there was a lot of doubt in
Seoul, in Tokyo, in Washington,
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that Kim Jong-un would be able
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to keep this totalitarian
regime together.
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So, since Kim Jong-un came
into power,
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he has very kind of
strategically acted
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to instill loyalty
at the top of the regime,
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to make sure that the people
who support him,
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the elites who keep him
in power,
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have even more reason
than ever to keep him there.
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So, the millennials of Pyongyang
can now do yoga classes
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and drink cappuccinos
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and they live a much better life
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than under his father
or his grandfather.
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But the other part is fear.
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He also needs to keep them
terrified.
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00:27:39,108 --> 00:27:43,360
And the way that he has done
this is by getting rid of anybody
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00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,705
who threatens him,
who questions him,
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00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:47,252
who may in some way suggest
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00:27:47,277 --> 00:27:49,945
that he's not the legitimate
leader of North Korea.
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00:27:50,442 --> 00:27:54,215
And as part of that, a lot of
senior figures in the regime
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have been purged.
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00:27:56,571 --> 00:27:59,816
Even his uncle,
Jang Song-thaek, was executed.
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00:28:02,059 --> 00:28:06,639
And this is very much Kim
Jong-un's MO for staying in power.
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00:28:07,287 --> 00:28:08,805
No one is safe.
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00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:13,277
And it was around that time,
you know, Kim Jong-nam
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was traveling a lot around
southeast Asia,
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and he made, you know,
several surprising remarks,
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00:28:18,909 --> 00:28:22,988
where he seemed to question his
brother's legitimacy to lead
414
00:28:23,228 --> 00:28:27,542
and whether North Korea should
have hereditary succession.
415
00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:32,867
Hello, are you Mr. Kim Jong-nam?
416
00:28:32,892 --> 00:28:35,025
Yes, I am. Hello.
417
00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:39,010
As the first son,
are you fine not being the successor?
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00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Personally I'm against a third-generation
succession of the dynasty.
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00:28:45,425 --> 00:28:47,104
And because of that,
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because he was, you know, threatening
Kim Jong-un's right to lead North Korea,
421
00:28:52,255 --> 00:28:55,701
Kim Jong-nam was somebody who
certainly would be considered a threat
422
00:28:55,726 --> 00:28:58,788
by Kim Jong-un and whose life
could be in danger.
423
00:29:10,887 --> 00:29:13,380
Today the prosecution is calling Dr. Raja,
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who is the government's
chemical weapons expert.
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00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,087
DR. RAJA: My lord, VX is the deadliest
nerve agent ever created by a human being.
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00:29:24,433 --> 00:29:27,779
DR. RAJA: A drop of VX is
sufficient to cause fatality.
427
00:29:28,774 --> 00:29:32,013
DR. RAJA: We identified
VX on blazer of victim
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00:29:32,038 --> 00:29:35,227
DR. RAJA: and face and
eye mucosa of victim.
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00:29:35,697 --> 00:29:38,603
DR. RAJA: We found
degradation product of VX
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DR. RAJA: on sleeveless
shirt of Siti Aisyah.
431
00:29:41,693 --> 00:29:46,363
DR. RAJA: We found VX
on LOL t-shirt of Doan.
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00:29:47,406 --> 00:29:54,619
PROSECUTOR: What if just one drop of
VX came into contact to human skin?
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DR. RAJA: If you decontaminate
within fifteen minutes,
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00:29:58,109 --> 00:30:02,169
DR. RAJA: you most likely will not
see any effect or some delayed effect.
435
00:30:05,434 --> 00:30:09,250
So the big takeaway from his
testimony is that it answers
436
00:30:09,628 --> 00:30:14,360
this lingering question of why the VX
chemical, which we know is very toxic,
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00:30:15,499 --> 00:30:20,063
can kill Kim Jong-nam but it did
not kill Siti Aisyah and Doan.
438
00:30:20,397 --> 00:30:23,897
He explained that because the palm,
number one, is thick,
439
00:30:24,032 --> 00:30:25,303
the skin is thick.
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00:30:25,557 --> 00:30:27,475
Number two, it has a lot of fats.
441
00:30:27,571 --> 00:30:30,637
So it was very difficult for the VX liquid
442
00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:34,039
to penetrate through the
skin into the bloodstream.
443
00:30:34,282 --> 00:30:37,559
Unlike when VX is applied onto the eyes.
444
00:30:38,349 --> 00:30:41,283
The Organization for the
Prohibition of Chemical Weapons,
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00:30:41,422 --> 00:30:45,830
which represents 192 nations,
issued a statement saying,
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00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,245
"Any use of chemical weapons
is deeply disturbing."
447
00:30:50,275 --> 00:30:53,751
While North Korea has not
acknowledged it has chemical weapons,
448
00:30:53,776 --> 00:30:57,163
South Korea estimates the
regime has a stockpile
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00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:59,989
of up to 5,000 metric tons.
450
00:31:01,697 --> 00:31:05,917
Now, if somebody brings a
chemical weapon into your country,
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00:31:06,978 --> 00:31:09,672
to me that tantamounts
to a declaration of war.
452
00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,052
And VX,
453
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,831
who can have possession of VX?
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00:31:16,044 --> 00:31:17,397
No ordinary people.
455
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:21,936
GOOI: I refer to the things that were
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00:31:22,454 --> 00:31:25,914
GOOI: seized or obtained from the
North Korean scientist by the name of
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GOOI: Ri Jong Chol.
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00:31:28,249 --> 00:31:30,403
GOOI: Were you taken to his house?
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00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,989
DR. RAJA: No, my lord.
460
00:31:35,118 --> 00:31:37,621
GOOI: You therefore have
no knowledge whether
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00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:40,878
GOOI: his house was in
fact a clandestine lab?
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00:31:41,498 --> 00:31:43,158
DR. RAJA: No, my lord.
463
00:31:48,717 --> 00:31:52,386
The investigation is very
shallow, I would say.
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00:31:55,302 --> 00:31:57,206
Ri Jong Choi is a chemist.
465
00:31:57,207 --> 00:32:01,544
The police did not even investigate
whether the VX actually came from him.
466
00:32:02,826 --> 00:32:05,161
Both the girls,
they never washed their clothes.
467
00:32:05,186 --> 00:32:06,912
They never disposed of their clothes.
468
00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:10,815
If they knew VX was so poisonous,
if they actually knew it was VX,
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00:32:11,281 --> 00:32:13,841
would they take the chance
of exposing themselves
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00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:15,895
to such a dangerous poison?
471
00:32:23,301 --> 00:32:24,568
Okay.
472
00:32:28,545 --> 00:32:30,365
When Siti was arrested,
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00:32:31,935 --> 00:32:34,386
we went to visit her in prison.
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00:32:37,102 --> 00:32:39,995
My first impression of, uh...
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00:32:41,314 --> 00:32:43,730
her whole demeanor,
whole conduct.
476
00:32:44,055 --> 00:32:46,367
She doesn't know anything.
477
00:32:47,948 --> 00:32:51,302
That is when we found out
Siti's story.
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00:32:59,942 --> 00:33:01,484
SITI:
When I was arrested,
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00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:05,415
SITI:
I was with my roommate in my room.
480
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,214
SITI:
My room was not locked. It never was.
481
00:33:10,866 --> 00:33:14,234
SITI:
Then the police pushed the door open.
482
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:20,537
SITI: The police asked,
"Where were you on the 13th?"
483
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,003
SITI:
"At the airport," I said.
484
00:33:27,001 --> 00:33:28,848
SITI:
"With whom?"
485
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:31,884
SITI:
"With Mr. Chang, my boss," I said.
486
00:33:32,565 --> 00:33:34,316
SITI:
"Can you call him?"
487
00:33:35,358 --> 00:33:40,925
SITI: So I called Mr. Chang,
but the number wasn't active.
488
00:33:43,071 --> 00:33:46,731
SITI: The police asked, "Who are you?
Are you a spy?"
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00:33:48,002 --> 00:33:53,823
SITI:
"What did you do that caused
that man in the airport to die?"
490
00:33:55,380 --> 00:34:00,220
SITI: I was confused.
I didn't understand what they meant.
491
00:34:00,546 --> 00:34:05,800
SITI:
"You are involved in the premeditated
murder of the Korean president's brother."
492
00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:11,139
SITI:
I was shocked. "You're kidding."
493
00:34:11,854 --> 00:34:14,805
SITI:
"I was doing a video shoot."
494
00:34:16,944 --> 00:34:21,277
SITI:
"Is this part of the video prank?"
495
00:34:24,672 --> 00:34:26,021
Siti,
496
00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:29,452
she in fact thought that she was
part of a prank show.
497
00:34:30,481 --> 00:34:32,743
And we had to persuade her,
498
00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:34,368
to tell her, "Look,
499
00:34:34,609 --> 00:34:36,515
someone really died.
500
00:34:36,951 --> 00:34:38,725
This is not a prank show.
501
00:34:39,105 --> 00:34:42,518
And now you are being charged for murder."
502
00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:48,304
As criminal lawyers,
we have our reservations.
503
00:34:49,646 --> 00:34:51,483
We have to be very objective.
504
00:34:51,568 --> 00:34:54,196
Okay, not to believe 100%.
505
00:34:55,154 --> 00:34:57,947
The issue is whether they
know what they were doing.
506
00:34:59,072 --> 00:35:03,786
And could they have been duped to believe
that they are acting in a prank show?
507
00:35:15,168 --> 00:35:16,928
HISYAM TEH POH TEIK:
508
00:35:15,169 --> 00:35:18,976
When Doan grew up,
she went to Hanoi to get her education.
509
00:35:20,543 --> 00:35:24,310
Although she studied accountancy
in a private university,
510
00:35:25,454 --> 00:35:28,289
after that she couldn't
get a job as an accountant.
511
00:35:33,452 --> 00:35:36,899
She ended up working
as a waitress in a pub.
512
00:35:38,127 --> 00:35:42,005
And during this time,
she was doing modeling.
513
00:35:42,747 --> 00:35:45,314
And she even took part in Vietnam Idol.
514
00:35:48,297 --> 00:35:49,505
Okay.
515
00:35:50,088 --> 00:35:51,331
Okay.
516
00:35:51,646 --> 00:35:53,772
Her aspiration is to be an actress.
517
00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:55,993
She wants to be famous.
518
00:35:58,027 --> 00:35:59,945
Even in her statement to the police,
519
00:36:00,102 --> 00:36:03,020
she described her occupation as an actress.
520
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Do you need an interpreter to
translate from English to Vietnamese?
521
00:36:16,928 --> 00:36:20,768
DOAN: No, because I can try
speak and understand English.
522
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:26,174
DOAN:
I work as waitress for three years.
523
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,554
I have a colleague named Thuy.
524
00:36:34,662 --> 00:36:37,769
DOAN:
In early December 2016,
525
00:36:38,204 --> 00:36:40,402
DOAN:
she called my cellphone.
526
00:36:41,736 --> 00:36:42,986
DOAN:
She said,
527
00:36:43,978 --> 00:36:49,331
DOAN:
"Do you want working for company
about short movie or funny video?
528
00:36:51,227 --> 00:36:53,531
DOAN:
Come to shop Hay Bar.
529
00:36:53,757 --> 00:36:55,299
DOAN:
We are waiting here."
530
00:36:57,701 --> 00:36:59,150
DOAN:
I come alone and
531
00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:03,971
DOAN: I saw Thuy and a guy
sitting near the counter bar.
532
00:37:05,497 --> 00:37:07,964
DOAN:
I asked him, "What's your name?"
533
00:37:08,234 --> 00:37:11,064
DOAN:
And he answered me in Vietnamese language.
534
00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:13,897
DOAN:
"Call me Mr. Y."
535
00:37:16,082 --> 00:37:18,822
DOAN:
He explained about the funny video.
536
00:37:21,087 --> 00:37:25,227
DOAN:
He asked me how much I want for a month.
537
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:31,714
DOAN: I feel shy but I say,
"I want US dollar 1000."
538
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:38,544
DOAN: He tell me his boss
can pay for the funny video.
539
00:37:43,334 --> 00:37:46,127
So now we are finding out
that both women are claiming
540
00:37:46,243 --> 00:37:48,747
that they have been going
around Asia for months
541
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:51,435
doing prank shows for
what they believe to be
542
00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:53,495
a Japanese production company.
543
00:37:54,631 --> 00:37:56,644
And their last prank
544
00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:00,771
would be the murder
assassination of Kim Jong-nam.
545
00:38:24,511 --> 00:38:28,584
There's this culture of
doing amateur prank videos.
546
00:38:28,801 --> 00:38:32,439
I think it came from people
watching shows like "Jackass." '
547
00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:44,024
And with the access allowed by social media
nowadays, people want to do that themselves.
548
00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:53,121
So it's not really out of the ordinary for
people to do prank videos here in Asia.
549
00:38:54,798 --> 00:38:58,467
And Doan was doing this
series of prank shows.
550
00:39:07,804 --> 00:39:11,098
In 2016, Doan took part in two pranks
551
00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:13,017
which were uploaded onto YouTube.
552
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,395
This is Doan now.
553
00:39:17,696 --> 00:39:19,487
I want to emphasize that this prank
554
00:39:19,512 --> 00:39:22,662
is not connected whatsoever
to the North Koreans.
555
00:39:24,304 --> 00:39:27,285
And this is one year before the
incident with Kim Jong-nam.
556
00:39:30,973 --> 00:39:32,560
I slap you, yeah?
557
00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:39,251
Is it funny?
558
00:39:40,259 --> 00:39:41,512
It's not uhh...
559
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:46,287
Yes, it is.
560
00:39:47,894 --> 00:39:50,312
But whether it's funny does not matter.
561
00:39:51,638 --> 00:39:53,704
This is part of the evidence
562
00:39:53,961 --> 00:39:57,424
to show that in fact she was
acting in funny video clips
563
00:39:57,943 --> 00:40:00,982
a long time before she
met the North Koreans.
564
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:15,213
Siti is here.
565
00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,582
The one wearing sunglasses.
566
00:40:20,858 --> 00:40:25,565
I really want her to come home.
567
00:40:28,869 --> 00:40:31,869
Siti went to school until 6th grade.
568
00:40:34,529 --> 00:40:42,272
And then, in time, she needed to find work.
569
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:50,984
SITI:
When I was young,
570
00:40:51,009 --> 00:40:54,158
SITI:
I saw my family was poor.
571
00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:58,294
SITI:
I wanted to help my family.
572
00:40:58,638 --> 00:41:00,721
SITI:
So I went to Jakarta.
573
00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:12,683
SITI:
I found work at a clothing factory.
574
00:41:19,798 --> 00:41:24,469
SITI: And that is when I
got married to the owner.
575
00:41:27,429 --> 00:41:31,076
SITI:
And then, I had my son when I was 17.
576
00:41:32,805 --> 00:41:34,805
SITI:
I liked being a mother,
577
00:41:35,788 --> 00:41:38,918
SITI:
but I was young and had to work a lot.
578
00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:41,991
SITI:
At the clothing factory,
579
00:41:42,203 --> 00:41:46,471
SITI:
people saw me as being that
little girl from the village.
580
00:41:48,325 --> 00:41:55,758
SITI: I would work from
7:30 or 8 AM until midnight.
581
00:42:02,812 --> 00:42:07,425
SITI:
I didn't have any other work
experience so I had no other choice.
582
00:42:12,749 --> 00:42:14,995
SITI:
Then in 2012,
583
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:18,142
SITI:
my husband and I got a divorce.
584
00:42:20,064 --> 00:42:25,564
SITI: And my son went to live
with my ex-husband's father.
585
00:42:29,161 --> 00:42:30,788
SITI:
Of course I was sad.
586
00:42:31,325 --> 00:42:36,454
SITI: But my life was just to
work and find money to eat.
587
00:42:40,605 --> 00:42:42,385
I think for Siti...
588
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:45,632
life was difficult.
She had to survive.
589
00:42:48,089 --> 00:42:50,148
And so in the hope
of a better life,
590
00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:52,121
for her and her family,
591
00:42:52,192 --> 00:42:55,335
she came to Kuala Lumpur
to look for a better job.
592
00:43:00,776 --> 00:43:03,203
SITI:
Kuala Lumpur, in my opinion,
593
00:43:03,946 --> 00:43:06,447
SITI:
is progressive compared to Jakarta.
594
00:43:07,566 --> 00:43:12,960
SITI:
In Kuala Lumpur I could go out around town.
595
00:43:14,895 --> 00:43:19,829
SITI: I saw lots of
fashionable people at the mall.
596
00:43:22,363 --> 00:43:24,322
SITI:
From there I learned,
597
00:43:24,872 --> 00:43:28,750
SITI:
oh, I can change and be pretty.
598
00:43:31,252 --> 00:43:34,125
SITI:
In the beginning, I was happy.
599
00:43:43,134 --> 00:43:45,327
For a young migrant,
600
00:43:46,183 --> 00:43:47,534
women especially,
601
00:43:48,046 --> 00:43:49,441
coming to Malaysia,
602
00:43:50,604 --> 00:43:52,904
it can be a very dangerous world.
603
00:43:56,875 --> 00:43:58,626
Most often they come here
604
00:43:59,283 --> 00:44:01,795
believing in a promise of a secure job,
605
00:44:02,377 --> 00:44:04,169
but when they arrive,
606
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:08,137
they find themselves in a
very different environment,
607
00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,695
the underbelly of Kuala Lumpur.
608
00:44:13,092 --> 00:44:16,739
And some of them being
forced into prostitution,
609
00:44:17,173 --> 00:44:18,652
sexual slavery.
610
00:44:20,588 --> 00:44:23,274
And they usually don't
have any say about it.
611
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:42,569
When I first met Siti,
612
00:44:44,888 --> 00:44:47,861
she was a village girl,
613
00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:49,929
still a teenager.
614
00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:56,106
She had a job working at a spa.
615
00:44:57,236 --> 00:45:04,451
I knew that she did not like
her job as a sex worker.
616
00:45:07,926 --> 00:45:10,939
But she had no other choice.
617
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,059
This was the only kind of
work to earn good money.
618
00:45:18,929 --> 00:45:22,116
According to Siti,
there was this person
619
00:45:22,513 --> 00:45:25,222
John, this taxi driver,
620
00:45:25,247 --> 00:45:28,133
who introduced her
to the North Koreans.
621
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:35,355
There were, what-- two, three
attempts for us to meet John.
622
00:45:35,871 --> 00:45:40,051
But the police,
they could not produce him.
623
00:45:40,506 --> 00:45:42,473
They said he was uncontactable.
624
00:45:57,918 --> 00:46:00,044
I will start from the beginning, okay?
625
00:46:00,503 --> 00:46:04,173
One night, this guy approached me
in front of the mall entrance.
626
00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:08,394
He said he wanted to go to
Kuala Lumpur City Centre.
627
00:46:13,764 --> 00:46:15,244
He said his name was James,
628
00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,251
and he was from Japan.
629
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:23,826
He was looking for girls
to act in a prank video.
630
00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:29,084
He told me, "If you find any
girls, then give me a call."
631
00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:36,722
Around 3 o'clock in the
morning, the club closes.
632
00:46:36,999 --> 00:46:40,396
The girls there will come outside
and look for customers.
633
00:46:42,354 --> 00:46:46,816
That night, I saw Siti there by herself.
634
00:46:48,816 --> 00:46:52,849
SITI: John asked,
"Do you want to do a video shoot?
635
00:46:54,023 --> 00:46:56,608
SITI:
A guy from Japan
636
00:46:57,197 --> 00:47:01,249
SITI: is looking for an
actress for a video shoot."
637
00:47:03,531 --> 00:47:07,220
I had asked many girls there
if they'd be interested,
638
00:47:08,007 --> 00:47:11,048
but Siti was the only person who agreed.
639
00:47:37,933 --> 00:47:39,900
The entire text messages, we went through.
640
00:47:40,594 --> 00:47:41,860
Hundreds of pages.
641
00:47:42,353 --> 00:47:43,640
Thousands.
642
00:47:43,692 --> 00:47:45,235
Thousands of pages.
643
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,364
Nothing to indicate that
644
00:47:48,794 --> 00:47:52,755
she had anything sinister or that she
was involved in the assassination.
645
00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:15,115
SITI:
After getting to Pavilion,
646
00:48:15,693 --> 00:48:21,171
SITI: John introduced me to
the boss from Japan, James.
647
00:48:23,583 --> 00:48:28,437
SITI:
James put baby lotion on my hands.
648
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:32,756
SITI:
I was instructed to hold someone's hand,
649
00:48:32,992 --> 00:48:36,189
SITI:
look at their face, then say sorry.
650
00:48:38,937 --> 00:48:42,518
SITI: I didn't think the
prank videos were that funny.
651
00:48:43,017 --> 00:48:45,898
SITI: But he convinced me
that every Japanese prank show
652
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:49,076
SITI:
has its own style.
653
00:48:51,622 --> 00:48:55,088
SITI:
Then he paid me 400 ringgits (96 USD),
654
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,819
SITI:
I thought, "That's easy money
for doing such a simple thing."
655
00:49:01,611 --> 00:49:05,489
SITI:
And I could send it home to my parents.
656
00:49:07,930 --> 00:49:09,497
1-6-8, there.
657
00:49:09,781 --> 00:49:12,017
This is a photo of James.
658
00:49:12,432 --> 00:49:17,493
This is John, the taxi driver
who introduced her to James.
659
00:49:17,644 --> 00:49:21,080
And this is Siti, at the very
first meeting at Pavilion.
660
00:49:21,337 --> 00:49:22,622
This photo--
661
00:49:22,647 --> 00:49:25,548
Someone who knew John
saw him there
662
00:49:25,758 --> 00:49:28,934
and took a photograph
and posted it in a group chat.
663
00:49:29,636 --> 00:49:33,688
It is coincidental.
Thank God for this photo.
664
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:38,928
The photograph essentially
confirms Siti'’s story.
665
00:49:44,978 --> 00:49:49,903
Today the prosecution is putting the
investigating officer to the witness stand,
666
00:49:50,461 --> 00:49:51,712
Wan Azirul.
667
00:49:51,837 --> 00:49:55,465
He is the prosecution's
star witness in this case.
668
00:49:56,338 --> 00:50:04,292
PROSECUTOR: You mentioned earlier about the role of
the four North Koreans. Can you tell us their role?
669
00:50:04,672 --> 00:50:12,011
WAN AZIRUL: The four suspects were the people who provided
both Siti and Doan with ongoing training exercises
670
00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:18,259
WAN AZIRUL: to ensure that their actions on
the day of the incident would be successful.
671
00:50:18,452 --> 00:50:20,052
HISYAM: Objection, my lord.
672
00:50:20,476 --> 00:50:22,819
The investigating officer
used the word "training."
673
00:50:23,245 --> 00:50:25,222
- Yes. That's right.
- We objected.
674
00:50:25,606 --> 00:50:29,009
This is pure interpretation
by the investigating officer.
675
00:50:29,499 --> 00:50:34,698
His version is Doan and Siti Aisyah
were taking part in training.
676
00:50:35,942 --> 00:50:38,068
And we have in fact strong evidence
677
00:50:39,012 --> 00:50:41,102
to show that she is in fact
678
00:50:41,258 --> 00:50:44,802
being tricked,
being duped to do what she did.
679
00:50:52,909 --> 00:50:56,787
DOAN:
Mr. Y said meet at big theater Hanoi.
680
00:50:58,015 --> 00:51:02,208
DOAN:
He told me how to do action in the video.
681
00:51:03,683 --> 00:51:08,110
DOAN:
He said go talk and give surprise kiss
682
00:51:08,197 --> 00:51:11,293
DOAN:
on the cheek to anybody he choose.
683
00:51:12,953 --> 00:51:17,414
DOAN: After that,
a Korean man - really old - came to us and
684
00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:20,919
DOAN:
we went to coffee shop nearby and sitting.
685
00:51:22,871 --> 00:51:25,617
DOAN:
Mr. Y said, "This is my boss."
686
00:51:25,896 --> 00:51:28,077
DOAN:
I asked the bass his name.
687
00:51:29,148 --> 00:51:32,693
DOAN:
Mr. Y told me, "Hanamori means uncle."
688
00:51:33,757 --> 00:51:36,257
DOAN:
"So, just sail him Hanamori."
689
00:51:43,762 --> 00:51:47,458
Siti, there was a prank
on the 9th of January.
690
00:51:47,883 --> 00:51:49,678
At Mandarin Oriental.
691
00:51:50,279 --> 00:51:52,932
And she made a video of James.
692
00:51:55,903 --> 00:51:57,777
James could not speak proper English.
693
00:51:58,192 --> 00:51:59,750
Listen, listen.
694
00:52:00,252 --> 00:52:01,579
Turn off the camera.
695
00:52:02,103 --> 00:52:03,203
Turn off!
696
00:52:03,378 --> 00:52:05,055
And they were communicating
697
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,038
using Google Translate.
698
00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:10,378
So to ensure that the
whole thing will go well,
699
00:52:10,403 --> 00:52:12,811
they introduce Mr. Chang.
700
00:52:14,581 --> 00:52:18,250
SITI: Mr. Chang was very
good at speaking Indonesian.
701
00:52:19,492 --> 00:52:20,903
SITI:
He was different from James.
702
00:52:20,928 --> 00:52:24,764
SITI:
Chang was a little... flirtatious.
703
00:52:26,526 --> 00:52:28,933
The prank jobs that they
were doing at that time,
704
00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:31,480
we call them "mistaken identity."
705
00:52:32,871 --> 00:52:35,350
They come from behind,
close somebody's eyes.
706
00:52:35,636 --> 00:52:38,096
Like, "Guess who I am?" sort of thing.
707
00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:41,866
She was paid a few hundred US dollars.
708
00:52:42,176 --> 00:52:45,931
And I think that was a fairly
good remuneration for her.
709
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:48,156
Why you filming me?
710
00:52:53,212 --> 00:52:54,485
SITI:
They told me,
711
00:52:54,755 --> 00:52:59,759
SITI:
"You'll go to Singapore,
to America... everywhere.
712
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:08,067
SITI: You'll become famous
as the video prank actress."
713
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,100
Doan did a prank at the Vietnamese airport.
714
00:53:14,674 --> 00:53:16,475
And, in fact, we have the DVD.
715
00:53:17,403 --> 00:53:19,821
That is Doan here in white.
716
00:53:21,949 --> 00:53:25,449
DOAN:
Mr. Y gave my hand Johnson baby cream.
717
00:53:27,857 --> 00:53:31,725
DOAN:
He said I make surprise same like before.
718
00:53:33,446 --> 00:53:35,366
Okay, watch this gentleman closely.
719
00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:41,239
And on the other side,
720
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,844
there you see?
721
00:53:42,845 --> 00:53:44,199
Doan running,
722
00:53:46,723 --> 00:53:48,763
coming behind the gentleman.
723
00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:54,645
Yep.
She did the prank.
724
00:53:55,688 --> 00:53:57,314
And you see a gentleman here
725
00:53:57,596 --> 00:53:59,555
videoing the prank.
726
00:53:59,845 --> 00:54:01,304
There you are: Mr. Y.
727
00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:39,221
A few days later,
Doan took a flight.
728
00:54:41,156 --> 00:54:43,182
She came to Kuala Lumpur
together with Mr. Y,
729
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,656
and one more prank at the KLIA airport.
730
00:55:13,551 --> 00:55:15,824
Siti had three days of pranks,
731
00:55:16,237 --> 00:55:20,037
all at the arrival of the Kuala
Lumpur International Airport.
732
00:55:20,511 --> 00:55:23,702
And then she posted
a video of KLIA.
733
00:55:25,444 --> 00:55:28,127
You know, if I was going
to assassinate someone,
734
00:55:28,152 --> 00:55:30,917
surely I would not tell them
where I got trained.
735
00:55:32,145 --> 00:55:37,372
As young women, they had documented
so much of this on social media.
736
00:55:37,758 --> 00:55:40,210
I mean, one of the great things
about technology here
737
00:55:40,235 --> 00:55:42,237
is that it did create this trail
738
00:55:42,262 --> 00:55:45,178
which showed the relationships
between the women
739
00:55:45,203 --> 00:55:47,422
and their North Korean handlers
740
00:55:47,493 --> 00:55:50,323
that could enable them
to put up a defense.
741
00:55:54,752 --> 00:55:59,424
PROSECUTOR: Based on your investigation,
do you agree that this was a prank?
742
00:55:59,950 --> 00:56:03,453
WAN AZIRUL: To me, the "prank" that was
acted out by both of them
743
00:56:03,478 --> 00:56:08,820
WAN AZIRUL: is something that doesn't
make any sense and is illogical.
744
00:56:09,734 --> 00:56:13,277
"The specific act was more of an attack
that was specifically targeted
745
00:56:13,302 --> 00:56:16,814
and perpetrated by both defendants
on the day of the incident."
746
00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,669
As the investigating officer,
747
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:25,298
you are supposed to investigate
based on the evidence,
748
00:56:25,299 --> 00:56:28,450
you are not supposed to
come out with judgement.
749
00:56:29,546 --> 00:56:33,424
It shows he already made up his mind
early on that these girls are guilty,
750
00:56:34,224 --> 00:56:38,269
and he and the prosecution are basically
751
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:40,130
reading from the same book.
752
00:56:42,103 --> 00:56:44,863
Look at the evidence
completely and entirely.
753
00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:48,585
These girls have got no motive whatsoever.
754
00:56:49,406 --> 00:56:51,392
But look at the North Koreans.
755
00:56:52,086 --> 00:56:53,992
North Korea has got an interest.
756
00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:04,165
Kim Jong-nam had been living
in Macau for more than a decade.
757
00:57:04,817 --> 00:57:07,052
And there are a number of rumors
758
00:57:07,077 --> 00:57:09,510
that this was not
the first attempt on his life,
759
00:57:09,790 --> 00:57:14,776
that Kim Jong-un had tried repeatedly
to assassinate Kim Jong-nam.
760
00:57:15,361 --> 00:57:17,922
In fact, the South Korean
intelligence reported
761
00:57:17,947 --> 00:57:22,755
that Kim Jong-nam had actually written a
letter to his brother, saying, you know,
762
00:57:22,915 --> 00:57:24,454
"Please stop trying to kill me,"
763
00:57:24,479 --> 00:57:26,722
like, "I am not a threat
to you."
764
00:57:27,275 --> 00:57:29,582
You know, "I do not want
to be the leader.
765
00:57:31,193 --> 00:57:33,620
"Please let me and my family...
766
00:57:34,333 --> 00:57:36,680
please let us live our lives."
767
00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:43,351
So he was extremely careful and
conscious that he was always in danger.
768
00:57:45,206 --> 00:57:47,859
But because he was living
in China,
769
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:51,364
for North Korea to assassinate
Kim Jong-nam,
770
00:57:51,419 --> 00:57:55,827
it's very difficult because, you
know, North Korea is reliant on China.
771
00:57:56,887 --> 00:58:01,940
They are North Korea's number-one
benefactor, patron state.
772
00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:04,439
And from China's point of view,
773
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:08,865
they had given Kim Jong-nam
kind of exile protection,
774
00:58:09,232 --> 00:58:11,902
and in some ways were maybe
keeping him in reserve,
775
00:58:12,153 --> 00:58:14,811
that if they wanted to replace
Kim Jong-un,
776
00:58:14,899 --> 00:58:18,978
they could install Kim Jong-nam
as the leader of North Korea.
777
00:58:20,927 --> 00:58:23,927
So there's no way
that North Korea could ever
778
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,556
conduct such an audacious
assassination,
779
00:58:26,747 --> 00:58:29,906
or any assassination,
on Chinese soil.
780
00:58:30,077 --> 00:58:33,148
So they had to make sure
they caught Kim Jong-nam
781
00:58:33,173 --> 00:58:34,994
when he was outside of China.
782
00:58:46,811 --> 00:58:49,563
On February 8th, 2017,
783
00:58:50,717 --> 00:58:53,017
just like days before he was -
784
00:58:53,351 --> 00:58:54,617
before he was killed,
785
00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:58,284
Kim Jong-nam flew to Langkawi,
786
00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:02,288
which is a resort island in
the north part of Malaysia.
787
00:59:02,992 --> 00:59:06,173
He checked in at the Westin Hotel.
788
00:59:08,238 --> 00:59:11,418
So, here we have Kim Jong-nam
789
00:59:12,031 --> 00:59:15,479
in the elevator
at the Westin Hotel in Langkawi,
790
00:59:15,504 --> 00:59:19,964
with this man, who was later
reported to be a CIA agent.
791
00:59:21,458 --> 00:59:23,949
It's never been confirmed
that this man was, in fact,
792
00:59:23,974 --> 00:59:25,458
working for the CIA.
793
00:59:26,493 --> 00:59:30,611
But during the course of my reporting,
I discovered that Kim Jong-nam
794
00:59:30,636 --> 00:59:35,464
had become a CIA informant
after his brother took power.
795
00:59:37,407 --> 00:59:39,408
So he met with this CIA agent,
796
00:59:39,549 --> 00:59:41,607
and they spent two hours together.
797
00:59:43,016 --> 00:59:45,782
And he flew back to Kuala Lumpur,
798
00:59:46,241 --> 00:59:47,976
where he was killed.
799
00:59:51,222 --> 00:59:52,662
After the murder,
800
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:56,236
Malaysian police went through
Kim Jong-nam's laptop.
801
00:59:57,357 --> 00:59:59,274
And they were able to identity that
802
00:59:59,299 --> 01:00:04,017
data was removed from the
laptop into a USB drive
803
01:00:04,351 --> 01:00:08,211
on the day where Kim Jong-nam
met with the American agent.
804
01:00:09,386 --> 01:00:12,805
In his bag, they found 138,000 US dollars,
805
01:00:13,652 --> 01:00:16,028
which seems to suggest that the money was
806
01:00:16,053 --> 01:00:19,332
payment for the data that was transferred.
807
01:00:20,978 --> 01:00:25,804
The CIA likes to say that North Korea
is the blackest of all the black holes.
808
01:00:26,258 --> 01:00:31,231
They have so little information about
what's happening inside North Korea.
809
01:00:31,764 --> 01:00:34,461
And Kim Jong-nam,
the one thing that he had
810
01:00:34,486 --> 01:00:36,143
that very few other people had
811
01:00:36,208 --> 01:00:40,018
was information about the
inner workings of this regime.
812
01:00:41,905 --> 01:00:45,012
And if North Korea had
discovered that Kim Jong-nam
813
01:00:45,151 --> 01:00:49,061
was providing information to the
American intelligence service,
814
01:00:49,206 --> 01:00:52,081
this alone would be reason
for the North Koreans
815
01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:54,453
to try to eliminate him.
816
01:01:02,498 --> 01:01:06,365
DOAN:
On February 4th, 2017,
817
01:01:07,265 --> 01:01:11,545
DOAN: me and Mr. Y together
go to Kuala Lumpur again.
818
01:01:19,921 --> 01:01:23,549
This video clip shows Doan
checking into the hotel.
819
01:01:28,393 --> 01:01:30,479
She had this teddy bear with her.
820
01:01:31,023 --> 01:01:32,203
Huge one.
821
01:01:32,228 --> 01:01:33,979
About the same size as her.
822
01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:37,846
And Mr. Y instructed her
823
01:01:37,944 --> 01:01:40,639
to practice the prank on the teddy bear.
824
01:02:47,347 --> 01:02:48,889
When we started this case,
825
01:02:49,735 --> 01:02:51,743
some of the CCTV footage
826
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,428
was leaked to a Japanese TV station.
827
01:02:54,675 --> 01:02:56,234
And that went viral.
828
01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:04,350
Whereas, the defense counsel,
829
01:03:05,025 --> 01:03:07,597
we have put in lots of
letters to the police
830
01:03:08,428 --> 01:03:11,314
asking for the CCTV footage,
831
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:13,948
with no reply whatsoever.
832
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:19,154
Now, we finally received the CCTV footage
833
01:03:20,088 --> 01:03:22,089
some six months after the incident.
834
01:03:25,586 --> 01:03:28,679
This is in KLIA2 airport departure hall.
835
01:03:29,538 --> 01:03:32,231
Mr. O Jong-gil
in the white cap
836
01:03:32,256 --> 01:03:35,171
and Hanamori, the guy in the purple shirt.
837
01:03:36,182 --> 01:03:39,302
Hanamori is the mastermind
of the operation, but
838
01:03:40,146 --> 01:03:43,379
O Jong-gil, he is also closely involved.
839
01:03:44,625 --> 01:03:48,278
We like to call him the
Godfather of the operation.
840
01:03:56,833 --> 01:04:01,166
DOAN:
Mr. Y said video on the
13th is very important.
841
01:04:02,495 --> 01:04:07,374
DOAN:
So I wear long sleeve
white shirt with LOL print
842
01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:13,138
DOAN:
and I make hairstyle like wave
and makeup beautifully.
843
01:04:13,812 --> 01:04:18,357
DOAN: Mr. Y said company
rent new actor and actress
844
01:04:18,438 --> 01:04:23,317
DOAN: to make more effective
video and put on YouTube.
845
01:04:28,198 --> 01:04:30,524
Siti Aisyah just arrived and
846
01:04:30,837 --> 01:04:33,297
she is taking a seat across from Mr. Chang.
847
01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:40,167
On the table we can actually see
a smartphone mounted on a selfie stick.
848
01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:45,899
SITI: He said,
"Today there will be hidden cameras,
849
01:04:45,975 --> 01:04:48,153
SITI:
so not just me."
850
01:04:51,738 --> 01:04:53,725
So here you can see Siti
851
01:04:54,925 --> 01:04:56,611
high five Mr. Chang.
852
01:04:59,515 --> 01:05:04,055
Either she is oblivious
about what she's about to do,
853
01:05:05,179 --> 01:05:06,715
or she is
854
01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:08,503
so well trained
855
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:11,240
that the act of killing someone
856
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:13,677
is just another day for her.
857
01:05:19,165 --> 01:05:23,865
DOAN:
Mr. Y said the new actor
is a fat man and no hair.
858
01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:29,950
This is Kim Jong-nam.
859
01:05:30,334 --> 01:05:33,123
He is looking at the board
to check out his flight to Macau.
860
01:05:33,856 --> 01:05:35,849
If you look very closely,
861
01:05:36,367 --> 01:05:38,222
this over here is Siti.
862
01:05:42,312 --> 01:05:44,532
She is standing next to this column.
863
01:05:46,573 --> 01:05:48,097
She is not alone over there.
864
01:05:48,122 --> 01:05:51,708
She is actually with Mr. Chang,
who is hiding behind this column.
865
01:05:52,103 --> 01:05:53,353
And over here,
866
01:05:53,548 --> 01:05:55,549
waiting at the table is Hanamori,
867
01:05:55,577 --> 01:05:56,916
the mastermind.
868
01:05:59,008 --> 01:06:01,288
You can see that when Kim Jong-nam enters,
869
01:06:02,094 --> 01:06:05,827
Hanamori walked toward
Mr. Chang and Siti Aisyah,
870
01:06:05,972 --> 01:06:08,807
indicating that Kim Jong-nam is coming.
871
01:06:09,674 --> 01:06:13,469
And as Kim Jong-nam is
walking towards the kiosk,
872
01:06:16,222 --> 01:06:19,842
you can see that Siti moves
and hid behind this column.
873
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,357
SITI:
Suddenly, Mr. Chang said,
874
01:06:27,358 --> 01:06:31,820
SITI:
"That's the one, in the gray jacket."
875
01:06:32,941 --> 01:06:35,281
SITI:
He gave me the baby oil.
876
01:06:39,362 --> 01:06:41,549
And now we can see Mr. Chang.
877
01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,529
He walks past Kim Jong-nam
878
01:06:43,734 --> 01:06:45,777
to watch the attack happen.
879
01:06:50,298 --> 01:06:53,351
DOAN:
Mr. Y gave me oil on my hand.
880
01:06:54,378 --> 01:06:56,118
DOAN:
He told me, "Don't look."
881
01:06:57,088 --> 01:07:01,515
DOAN: He said,
"Just look at the actor and actress."
882
01:07:03,162 --> 01:07:05,095
I saw the new actress
883
01:07:05,567 --> 01:07:08,549
put hands on his face
from the back.
884
01:07:12,647 --> 01:07:15,316
DOAN:
I ran and do the same surprise.
885
01:07:16,658 --> 01:07:19,080
DOAN:
I put my hand on his eyes.
886
01:07:20,455 --> 01:07:22,275
DOAN:
I say sorry to him.
887
01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:24,456
DOAN:
I running and go.
888
01:07:27,091 --> 01:07:29,885
Looking from this angle
you can see Kim Jong-nam.
889
01:07:35,975 --> 01:07:37,308
He stumbled back.
890
01:07:38,017 --> 01:07:43,188
It's very possible for him to actually start to
feel the effect of the VX chemical right away.
891
01:07:52,930 --> 01:07:56,890
SITI: He reacted like he was scared.
It scared me too.
892
01:07:58,739 --> 01:08:00,879
SITI:
So I ran away.
893
01:08:07,216 --> 01:08:09,551
WAN AZIRUL: In this image we see a woman.
894
01:08:10,415 --> 01:08:13,363
WAN AZIRUL: She walks quickly and is seen
895
01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:17,217
WAN AZIRUL: trying to
avoid touching her bag.
896
01:08:20,542 --> 01:08:27,222
WAN AZIRUL: She holds her hands as though she
doesn't want to touch the two moving rails,
897
01:08:28,038 --> 01:08:31,158
WAN AZIRUL: shaking her
hands like it's burning.
898
01:08:34,662 --> 01:08:37,734
This video is important
because you can see Siti
899
01:08:38,385 --> 01:08:40,148
rubbing the palm of her hand.
900
01:08:42,036 --> 01:08:45,515
And Wan Azirul's testimony was that Siti
901
01:08:45,661 --> 01:08:47,870
was trying to avoid contact.
902
01:08:48,761 --> 01:08:53,341
If she had known it was VX,
you know, the most lethal poison,
903
01:08:53,742 --> 01:08:56,985
she would surely not have
rubbed the palm of her hands.
904
01:08:58,633 --> 01:09:02,917
WAN AZIRUL: The CCTV
recording clearly shows Doan
905
01:09:02,942 --> 01:09:05,468
WAN AZIRUL: and her hands
seemed very uncomfortable.
906
01:09:08,353 --> 01:09:11,933
DOAN:
I felt my hand oily and smelly
907
01:09:14,004 --> 01:09:18,917
DOAN: and I don't want it to
dirty my LOL white T-shirt.
908
01:09:25,548 --> 01:09:27,257
As Kim Jong-nam was dying,
909
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:31,008
these North Koreans,
910
01:09:32,046 --> 01:09:34,673
they were subsequently seen in the CCTV
911
01:09:34,698 --> 01:09:37,639
going towards the toilet
and change their clothes.
912
01:09:41,322 --> 01:09:45,849
Then they were immediately met by the
secretary of the North Korean embassy
913
01:09:46,057 --> 01:09:48,555
and the staff in the Air Koryo,
914
01:09:49,041 --> 01:09:51,208
who facilitated their easy
915
01:09:51,270 --> 01:09:53,605
passage through the immigration.
916
01:09:54,956 --> 01:09:57,175
If you look here at this moment,
917
01:09:59,824 --> 01:10:01,790
you can see them laughing.
918
01:10:03,157 --> 01:10:04,866
This is like within two hours
919
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:06,617
after they killed Kim Jong-nam.
920
01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:10,589
And then they flew immediately to Jakarta,
921
01:10:10,614 --> 01:10:13,695
the first flight they could
take to connect them to Dubai
922
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,976
and to Vladivostok and back to
Pyongyang, North Korea.
923
01:10:20,461 --> 01:10:22,628
The four North Koreans have escaped.
924
01:10:23,868 --> 01:10:25,394
Ri Jong Choi,
925
01:10:25,571 --> 01:10:27,739
the staff of the North Korean Embassy,
926
01:10:27,807 --> 01:10:29,933
and the staff in the Air Koryo,
927
01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:32,394
all were allowed to go back to North Korea.
928
01:10:33,322 --> 01:10:34,530
And James,
929
01:10:34,651 --> 01:10:36,795
nobody knows where is James today.
930
01:10:38,994 --> 01:10:41,208
All the North Koreans were untouched.
931
01:10:43,616 --> 01:10:45,376
But somebody has got to be charged,
932
01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:47,492
because somebody is dead.
933
01:10:48,911 --> 01:10:50,287
So the two girls,
934
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:53,702
they become scapegoats of the prosecution.
935
01:11:01,628 --> 01:11:03,422
WAN SHAHARUDDIN WAN LADIN:
936
01:11:01,632 --> 01:11:03,672
We have presented our case,
937
01:11:04,051 --> 01:11:07,846
so now it is for them to
explain their conduct.
938
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:11,876
The two lawyers mentioned that this
whole plot is a political conspiracy,
939
01:11:11,901 --> 01:11:14,561
that North Korea wants to murder...
it's not these two women.
940
01:11:14,562 --> 01:11:16,313
I don't care.
941
01:11:16,839 --> 01:11:19,026
There is no evidence of political plot.
942
01:11:19,332 --> 01:11:22,084
The four North Koreans who ran away
943
01:11:22,109 --> 01:11:24,485
didn't apply the VX to the victim.
944
01:11:24,864 --> 01:11:27,115
It's not important for us to prove.
945
01:11:31,024 --> 01:11:34,831
For me, sitting through the
prosecution's stage of the trial,
946
01:11:35,832 --> 01:11:38,138
it is pretty clear that
947
01:11:38,225 --> 01:11:40,332
the prosecution, and by
extension, the government,
948
01:11:40,690 --> 01:11:42,918
want to convict these two women.
949
01:11:45,103 --> 01:11:48,564
In the international stage it would
look very bad for Malaysia to have
950
01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:51,262
somebody of a high profile as
951
01:11:51,402 --> 01:11:54,299
Kim Jong-nam to be
murdered in broad daylight
952
01:11:54,324 --> 01:11:57,285
at its biggest international airport.
953
01:11:58,791 --> 01:12:00,644
It's a big shame for the country.
954
01:12:01,422 --> 01:12:05,217
So in a typical mentality of saving face,
955
01:12:06,087 --> 01:12:09,215
someone has to take the blame,
to take the fall for it.
956
01:12:10,428 --> 01:12:13,881
Just from a judicial point of view,
yes, these women were caught on camera
957
01:12:13,906 --> 01:12:15,563
carrying out this act.
958
01:12:15,588 --> 01:12:20,966
They were very clearly the ones
who had assassinated, technically,
959
01:12:21,034 --> 01:12:22,300
Kim Jong-nam.
960
01:12:22,325 --> 01:12:25,786
So Malaysia did need to act,
did need to hold somebody to account,
961
01:12:26,006 --> 01:12:29,561
and the fact is that the masterminds
of it were back in North Korea.
962
01:12:38,221 --> 01:12:41,121
So now the assassination
of Kim Jong-nam
963
01:12:41,528 --> 01:12:45,059
has been really fundamental
to phase one
964
01:12:45,084 --> 01:12:47,725
of Kim Jong-un's leadership
965
01:12:48,276 --> 01:12:51,385
and to the way that he has
been able to stay in power.
966
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:56,230
And once he had taken out
all his rivals,
967
01:12:56,633 --> 01:12:58,897
he had proven his strength
domestically...
968
01:13:01,271 --> 01:13:02,894
He was ready for phase two.
969
01:13:04,745 --> 01:13:09,578
North Korea best not make any
more threats to the United States.
970
01:13:10,371 --> 01:13:14,524
They will be met
with fire and fury
971
01:13:14,933 --> 01:13:17,142
like the world has never seen.
972
01:13:18,154 --> 01:13:20,881
He wanted to get
the world's attention.
973
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:26,757
I think now that he has proven he had
a credible nuclear weapons program,
974
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:29,547
he is now starting this process
975
01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:34,818
of trying to look like a
respectable international statesman
976
01:13:34,965 --> 01:13:37,792
and seems very strong
and very confident
977
01:13:37,817 --> 01:13:40,500
and very much in control
of this regime.
978
01:13:50,172 --> 01:13:51,339
Hello.
979
01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,139
Okay, good.
Who is this, please?
980
01:13:56,917 --> 01:13:58,691
Ah, okay, all right,
all right, fine.
981
01:14:00,186 --> 01:14:02,538
Now that the prosecution
has closed its case,
982
01:14:02,563 --> 01:14:05,393
how do you save your client
from execution at this point?
983
01:14:06,553 --> 01:14:08,233
Look at the conduct.
984
01:14:09,077 --> 01:14:10,820
Two days after the incident,
985
01:14:11,503 --> 01:14:13,546
Doan went back to the airport
986
01:14:14,374 --> 01:14:16,584
again to the scene of crime.
987
01:14:18,984 --> 01:14:20,610
Now the question is:
988
01:14:21,465 --> 01:14:25,134
assuming Doan is the assassin,
assuming she is the killer,
989
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,013
would she go back to the
airport two days later
990
01:14:29,264 --> 01:14:32,224
and be identified?
It doesn't makes sense, does it?
991
01:14:34,566 --> 01:14:35,942
This is Doan.
992
01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:39,013
She's coming back to the arrival hall.
993
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,300
You can see, she never cut her hair.
994
01:14:44,839 --> 01:14:47,033
She was wearing the same shoes.
995
01:14:48,025 --> 01:14:49,359
She don't know
996
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,362
that someone called Kim Jong-nam has died,
997
01:14:52,456 --> 01:14:54,082
and police are looking for her.
998
01:14:56,325 --> 01:15:01,451
DOAN: Mr. Y said today
make another video at KLIA.
999
01:15:02,464 --> 01:15:05,337
DOAN:
So I go there at 8 AM
1000
01:15:05,444 --> 01:15:09,011
DOAN:
and call and text him many times.
1001
01:15:12,242 --> 01:15:15,349
DOAN:
But he switch off his phone.
1002
01:15:21,341 --> 01:15:23,759
Then, no choice,
she wanted to go back to the hotel.
1003
01:15:23,784 --> 01:15:26,481
She called for a taxi.
1004
01:15:46,578 --> 01:15:47,870
The guards came.
1005
01:15:48,869 --> 01:15:51,602
And she was arrested by the authorities.
1006
01:16:02,313 --> 01:16:06,399
The prosecution's case was
closed on the 5th of April.
1007
01:16:07,796 --> 01:16:09,843
And meanwhile, the girls are incarcerated.
1008
01:16:10,276 --> 01:16:13,763
They have already been in
the jail for one and a half years.
1009
01:16:15,631 --> 01:16:17,711
And that damage is irreparable.
1010
01:16:20,192 --> 01:16:21,943
In our criminal system here,
1011
01:16:22,544 --> 01:16:25,072
once the prosecution presents its case,
1012
01:16:25,706 --> 01:16:29,042
the judge will have to
make a decision whether
1013
01:16:29,311 --> 01:16:33,237
a case has been proven
against both of the girls.
1014
01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:42,140
The judge could either acquit the girls
1015
01:16:42,733 --> 01:16:44,859
or call for their defense.
1016
01:16:48,793 --> 01:16:51,791
JUDGE: My reading of my finding
will take quite some time.
1017
01:16:51,816 --> 01:16:53,479
JUDGE: So please bear with me.
1018
01:16:53,504 --> 01:16:55,770
JUDGE: There is bound to be unhappiness.
1019
01:16:56,855 --> 01:16:58,481
It took two and a half hours
1020
01:16:59,448 --> 01:17:01,199
for the judgement to be delivered.
1021
01:17:02,016 --> 01:17:04,054
It was an eighty-two page judgement.
1022
01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:10,292
JUDGE: The CCTV footage shows both women
holding their hands away from themselves.
1023
01:17:10,626 --> 01:17:16,094
JUDGE: To me, the precise timing and
the use of the VX as a chemical weapon
1024
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:21,518
JUDGE: all goes to support that they knew that the
liquid placed on their hands were toxic substances.
1025
01:17:23,358 --> 01:17:25,625
I think that was the moment where I...
1026
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:29,045
on the margins of my notes I wrote that
1027
01:17:29,401 --> 01:17:30,708
they are fucked.
1028
01:17:34,548 --> 01:17:36,728
And I think these girls are going to hang.
1029
01:17:37,789 --> 01:17:40,309
JUDGE: The sole purpose of prank is fun.
1030
01:17:40,489 --> 01:17:43,529
JUDGE: It is evident that none
of the features of "prank"
1031
01:17:43,554 --> 01:17:47,332
JUDGE: can be seen or found
to exist in the CCTV footage.
1032
01:17:48,107 --> 01:17:50,774
JUDGE: I find that the contention
that they were merely duped
1033
01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:54,720
JUDGE: into carrying out the act
could not possibly hold water.
1034
01:17:55,284 --> 01:17:59,380
JUDGE: I am of the firm view
that the accused persons
1035
01:17:59,884 --> 01:18:04,794
JUDGE: were the perpetrators
leading to the death of Kim Chol,
1036
01:18:04,862 --> 01:18:07,654
JUDGE: and I must therefore call upon them
1037
01:18:07,775 --> 01:18:11,034
JUDGE: to enter their defense
on their respective charges.
1038
01:18:12,386 --> 01:18:13,954
How is your client feeling?
1039
01:18:14,741 --> 01:18:17,721
She is obviously disappointed with
the ruling made by his Lordship.
1040
01:18:18,041 --> 01:18:20,612
Will you still try your defense
of the prank, given that--
1041
01:18:20,613 --> 01:18:23,131
Oh, yes. That has been our
1042
01:18:23,728 --> 01:18:26,597
defense consistently
from day one until now.
1043
01:18:26,658 --> 01:18:29,064
And we will pursue it until
the end of the defense's case.
1044
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:31,849
But the judge said it's not a prank
because nobody laughed?
1045
01:18:31,874 --> 01:18:34,190
That is his finding at this point of time.
1046
01:18:34,460 --> 01:18:36,183
He has not heard Doan.
1047
01:18:47,861 --> 01:18:49,594
At this point of time,
1048
01:18:49,818 --> 01:18:53,822
Siti and Doan have been
in jail almost two years.
1049
01:18:55,478 --> 01:19:00,644
I think the girls, um,
really have no one apart from each other.
1050
01:19:01,825 --> 01:19:05,385
Because they are kept separately
from all other inmates.
1051
01:19:06,053 --> 01:19:09,085
Even then they are separated
from one another.
1052
01:19:12,121 --> 01:19:16,833
SITI: With Doan,
when we first entered the prison,
1053
01:19:17,014 --> 01:19:20,376
SITI:
she was asked by the Malaysian police
1054
01:19:20,702 --> 01:19:23,174
SITI:
which part of Vietnam she was from,
1055
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:25,383
SITI:
and she said, "Hanoi."
1056
01:19:26,812 --> 01:19:29,645
SITI:
I didn't know her name,
1057
01:19:29,918 --> 01:19:33,645
SITI:
so I called her "Noi" from Hanoi.
1058
01:19:36,855 --> 01:19:41,728
DOAN:
We have separate cells
so we cannot see each other.
1059
01:19:44,161 --> 01:19:47,841
DOAN:
We must talk louder to hear.
1060
01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,829
SITI: Sometimes when I was about to
eat, I would say,
1061
01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:54,480
SITI:
"Hanoi, let's eat."
1062
01:19:54,623 --> 01:19:55,790
SITI:
And she would say the same thing,
1063
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:57,667
SITI:
"Okay, let's eat, Aisyah."
1064
01:19:58,357 --> 01:20:02,070
SITI:
After about a year in prison,
1065
01:20:02,994 --> 01:20:08,674
SITI:
I started to joke around more with Noi,
1066
01:20:08,953 --> 01:20:10,786
SITI:
and chit-chat.
1067
01:20:11,226 --> 01:20:14,006
SITI: That was when we
started to be close friends.
1068
01:20:16,855 --> 01:20:20,175
DOAN:
Siti is very funny.
1069
01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:22,142
DOAN:
Also very...
1070
01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:23,796
DOAN:
good heart.
1071
01:20:24,785 --> 01:20:25,832
DOAN:
Only...
1072
01:20:25,857 --> 01:20:27,900
DOAN:
me understand her and
1073
01:20:28,641 --> 01:20:30,297
DOAN:
her understand me.
1074
01:20:32,196 --> 01:20:33,590
DOAN:
We become
1075
01:20:34,143 --> 01:20:37,884
DOAN:
like sisters, become best friends.
1076
01:20:39,057 --> 01:20:41,304
DOAN:
When we together,
1077
01:20:42,379 --> 01:20:45,077
DOAN:
I can feel her heart.
1078
01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:52,297
DOAN:
That's why she can believe me
and I can believe her.
1079
01:21:07,905 --> 01:21:10,138
In preparation for the defense of Doan,
1080
01:21:10,657 --> 01:21:13,125
we spent about total
fourteen hours with her.
1081
01:21:14,407 --> 01:21:17,480
To go through her statement,
discuss the evidence with her.
1082
01:21:18,593 --> 01:21:21,299
PRAYER ROOM
1083
01:21:26,864 --> 01:21:28,998
Doan is a bit anxious, obviously.
1084
01:21:29,833 --> 01:21:30,958
A bit tense,
1085
01:21:30,983 --> 01:21:34,126
because today she is taking the stand for
the first time in her entire life.
1086
01:21:37,152 --> 01:21:41,512
She is aware that her case will be watched
by people throughout the world.
1087
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:46,986
There will definitely be pressure on her.
1088
01:21:52,552 --> 01:21:54,032
But I think she...
1089
01:21:54,613 --> 01:21:55,879
she's prepared.
1090
01:22:03,729 --> 01:22:06,549
On Saturday, before the trial started,
1091
01:22:06,681 --> 01:22:08,816
my friend texted Gooi.
1092
01:22:09,414 --> 01:22:11,290
And Gooi sent this
1093
01:22:11,735 --> 01:22:13,361
rather vague
1094
01:22:13,780 --> 01:22:15,169
text back to her
1095
01:22:15,194 --> 01:22:18,516
saying, "Bring all your
team down on Monday.
1096
01:22:18,804 --> 01:22:20,627
There is going to be big news."
1097
01:22:21,501 --> 01:22:22,813
Azura.
1098
01:22:24,062 --> 01:22:25,201
Azura.
1099
01:22:26,241 --> 01:22:28,122
So I met with Selvi,
1100
01:22:29,708 --> 01:22:32,369
throwing some guesses at her.
1101
01:22:33,156 --> 01:22:35,008
You guys found one of the North Koreans?
1102
01:22:35,033 --> 01:22:36,989
You guys are going to bring James here?
1103
01:22:37,085 --> 01:22:38,256
And she was like,
1104
01:22:39,194 --> 01:22:41,570
"I don't know. You just wait.
You just wait."
1105
01:22:44,502 --> 01:22:46,909
The lead prosecutor Mohammad Iskandar Ahmad
1106
01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:49,576
got up, looked at the judge, and he said,
1107
01:22:50,461 --> 01:22:54,068
PROSECUTOR: There's something that I
would like to address today, my Lord.
1108
01:22:55,547 --> 01:22:58,713
PROSECUTOR: I am requesting...
1109
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:02,810
PROSECUTOR: Your honor, I...
1110
01:23:04,029 --> 01:23:07,469
PROSECUTOR: I request to withdraw
1111
01:23:07,494 --> 01:23:10,078
PROSECUTOR: the charge against Siti Aisyah.
1112
01:23:13,004 --> 01:23:14,791
I literally was like,
1113
01:23:15,624 --> 01:23:16,724
"What?!"
1114
01:23:17,827 --> 01:23:20,694
The judge clearly looked surprised
1115
01:23:20,943 --> 01:23:22,641
that this happened,
1116
01:23:23,436 --> 01:23:24,830
but then he said,
1117
01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:28,392
JUDGE: The court has
determined that Siti Aisyah,
1118
01:23:28,420 --> 01:23:31,172
JUDGE: the first defendant,
is hereby released.
1119
01:23:32,799 --> 01:23:34,092
JUDGE: All right?
1120
01:23:34,117 --> 01:23:35,465
JUDGE: You can go.
1121
01:23:37,596 --> 01:23:40,348
I think Siti was trying to
process what was going on.
1122
01:23:40,861 --> 01:23:44,274
So she got up and grabbed
Doan and hugged her.
1123
01:23:45,103 --> 01:23:46,580
And then she left the courtroom.
1124
01:23:56,918 --> 01:23:58,961
How are you feeling?
1125
01:23:58,986 --> 01:24:00,862
I feel...
1126
01:24:03,694 --> 01:24:06,075
I feel like I'm...
1127
01:24:07,394 --> 01:24:08,793
Did they tell you before?
1128
01:24:08,794 --> 01:24:11,003
- No, I didn't know.
- You just found out now?
1129
01:24:11,004 --> 01:24:12,004
Uh-huh.
1130
01:24:12,005 --> 01:24:13,506
I feel...
1131
01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:14,867
pretty surprised.
1132
01:24:41,775 --> 01:24:43,136
Who was that? Aisyah?!
1133
01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:44,161
Oh my God!
1134
01:24:44,162 --> 01:24:45,413
What the hell just happened?
1135
01:24:45,414 --> 01:24:49,083
Yeah, she was released without...
1136
01:24:56,124 --> 01:24:57,958
Today, the
1137
01:24:58,635 --> 01:25:00,511
prosecution informed the court that
1138
01:25:00,992 --> 01:25:04,145
they declined to further prosecute
the case against Siti Aisyah.
1139
01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:07,335
So Siti Aisyah has been
discharged from the court today.
1140
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,278
The decision is...
1141
01:25:09,303 --> 01:25:13,074
The decision is the decision of the
attorney general, the public prosecutor to
1142
01:25:13,652 --> 01:25:16,028
decline to further prosecute.
No reasons were given.
1143
01:25:16,069 --> 01:25:17,653
What will happen next?
1144
01:25:19,136 --> 01:25:22,282
Next is that
she is a free person and
1145
01:25:22,603 --> 01:25:24,122
she will be going back to Jakarta.
1146
01:25:24,367 --> 01:25:26,201
What's going to happen to Doan?
1147
01:25:26,841 --> 01:25:27,901
Doan's case?
1148
01:25:27,926 --> 01:25:31,917
I believe since they did not indicate
anything, the case must continue.
1149
01:25:34,882 --> 01:25:37,816
HISYAM: My lord, the accused person
will give evidence under oath.
1150
01:25:37,841 --> 01:25:39,759
HISYAM: We have prepared
a written statement.
1151
01:25:40,573 --> 01:25:44,847
DOAN: I, Doan Thi Huong, solemnly swear
1152
01:25:44,871 --> 01:25:46,871
DOAN: and promise the court...
1153
01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:51,393
Doan was pretty traumatized
with the whole experience.
1154
01:25:52,731 --> 01:25:54,023
She just saw
1155
01:25:54,024 --> 01:25:56,891
the girl who was with her the whole time
1156
01:25:57,319 --> 01:25:58,597
being let go.
1157
01:26:00,758 --> 01:26:03,325
And she just broke down and cried.
1158
01:26:05,502 --> 01:26:07,669
HISYAM: We'd like to make
a representation, my lord.
1159
01:26:08,419 --> 01:26:11,838
Her lawyers asked the Judge
for court to be adjourned.
1160
01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,181
Ladies and gentlemen,
1161
01:26:19,466 --> 01:26:21,842
the charge against Siti
Aisyah was withdrawn,
1162
01:26:21,843 --> 01:26:23,881
whereas, as far as Doan is concerned,
1163
01:26:24,262 --> 01:26:26,268
the charge still remains the same.
1164
01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,235
Doan is obviously traumatized
1165
01:26:29,643 --> 01:26:32,019
that there's no fairness shown to her.
1166
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:35,436
She's entitled to the same
kind of considerations
1167
01:26:35,776 --> 01:26:39,429
that the public prosecutor decides to
withdraw the charge against Siti Aisyah.
1168
01:26:39,535 --> 01:26:41,421
Bearing in mind the
court has found as a fact
1169
01:26:41,446 --> 01:26:43,739
there's a case against
both of them to answer.
1170
01:26:48,386 --> 01:26:50,095
To me, it's a mixed feeling.
1171
01:26:50,999 --> 01:26:53,826
We are happy for Siti Aisyah and yet we are
1172
01:26:53,930 --> 01:26:55,389
sad for Doan.
1173
01:26:57,029 --> 01:26:59,503
The girls drew strength from one another.
1174
01:27:00,710 --> 01:27:03,090
To me it would be very hard for Doan
1175
01:27:03,779 --> 01:27:05,410
to go through the trial
1176
01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:08,199
alone.
1177
01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:11,304
- Come, come.
- Azura, come.
1178
01:27:11,329 --> 01:27:12,606
One for my team.
1179
01:27:17,448 --> 01:27:20,335
In my heart I know Doan's innocent as well.
1180
01:27:22,335 --> 01:27:25,762
I've been a criminal lawyer
for the last 40 years.
1181
01:27:28,633 --> 01:27:30,333
Until today, I...
1182
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,666
if you ask me what justice is, I still...
1183
01:27:37,210 --> 01:27:39,462
I find it very difficult
to answer that question.
1184
01:27:45,131 --> 01:27:48,724
At first, it does appear to be coming out
of nowhere because nobody was expecting it.
1185
01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:52,243
But later on we found out that
1186
01:27:52,495 --> 01:27:54,103
Siti's discharge is
1187
01:27:54,730 --> 01:27:57,315
based on the fact that the Indonesian
government has been
1188
01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:59,743
putting constant pressure against
the Malaysian government.
1189
01:28:00,108 --> 01:28:04,874
There have been backchannel
discussions at a very high level
1190
01:28:04,899 --> 01:28:07,192
for the release of Siti Aisyah.
1191
01:28:08,432 --> 01:28:11,545
President Joko Widodo discussed
the issue of Siti Aisyah
1192
01:28:11,782 --> 01:28:16,475
with the Malaysian Prime Minister
at Bogor Palace in June 2018.
1193
01:28:18,284 --> 01:28:22,924
It makes sense what Indonesia is doing
to save their citizen Siti Aisyah.
1194
01:28:24,287 --> 01:28:27,694
But the same cannot be said
for the Vietnamese government,
1195
01:28:28,316 --> 01:28:31,363
who is not doing as much to defend Doan.
1196
01:28:32,535 --> 01:28:36,320
Vietnam and North Korea continue
to have very close relations.
1197
01:28:36,351 --> 01:28:38,569
They're both communist
countries.
1198
01:28:39,654 --> 01:28:44,794
And there's a lot of North
Korean activity inside Vietnam.
1199
01:28:45,263 --> 01:28:48,439
So I think Vietnam's incentive
to speak out
1200
01:28:48,464 --> 01:28:52,188
and to risk angering North Korea
for the sake of this one woman,
1201
01:28:52,213 --> 01:28:55,882
I think, was very different from
the situation that Indonesia faced,
1202
01:28:55,907 --> 01:29:01,008
whereas Indonesia doesn't have those
same strong relations with North Korea.
1203
01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:05,751
If previously the thought of
1204
01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:07,403
both of them going
1205
01:29:07,428 --> 01:29:08,573
to be hanged
1206
01:29:08,733 --> 01:29:10,427
for this murder
1207
01:29:10,985 --> 01:29:13,647
felt really unfair,
1208
01:29:15,638 --> 01:29:18,045
I feel it would be even worse
1209
01:29:18,682 --> 01:29:22,638
if Doan were going to be hanged,
1210
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,429
- Bye!
- Bye!
1211
01:29:25,710 --> 01:29:27,857
while Siti Aisyah goes back home.
1212
01:29:45,672 --> 01:29:47,385
We're just so happy.
1213
01:29:49,639 --> 01:29:51,826
Just so glad.
1214
01:29:54,075 --> 01:29:55,928
Praise be to Allah.
1215
01:30:05,251 --> 01:30:08,211
Certainly, I am so happy to be home,
1216
01:30:08,236 --> 01:30:12,364
and be with my family and friends.
1217
01:30:15,193 --> 01:30:16,985
But I am definitely still sad.
1218
01:30:20,663 --> 01:30:22,414
It's as if
1219
01:30:23,543 --> 01:30:25,885
those North Koreans saw me
1220
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:29,366
as if my life has no value whatsoever.
1221
01:30:30,839 --> 01:30:34,519
Like I am a nobody, a nothing.
1222
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:46,148
Doan and I grew very close
1223
01:30:46,347 --> 01:30:50,141
over the course of the trial.
1224
01:30:51,696 --> 01:30:54,239
I always gave my support to her,
1225
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,742
and she always gave her support to me.
1226
01:30:56,816 --> 01:30:58,389
When I cried...
1227
01:30:58,753 --> 01:31:00,466
when I cried,
1228
01:31:00,914 --> 01:31:03,540
she would always console me.
1229
01:31:06,652 --> 01:31:08,366
And when she cried,
1230
01:31:09,201 --> 01:31:10,992
I would do the same for her.
1231
01:31:14,321 --> 01:31:18,155
I think of her as my own sister.
1232
01:31:25,311 --> 01:31:29,431
I pray she will not get the death penalty.
1233
01:31:45,975 --> 01:31:48,548
Doan has been very depressed. Confused.
1234
01:31:50,166 --> 01:31:53,085
We saw her at the prison
about two or three times.
1235
01:31:54,779 --> 01:31:58,446
And two or three times she told
me that she would not testify.
1236
01:32:01,121 --> 01:32:02,942
You see, the court has made a ruling.
1237
01:32:03,277 --> 01:32:05,570
The judge has called for the defense.
1238
01:32:06,913 --> 01:32:09,748
And the law says, if, after such ruling,
1239
01:32:10,136 --> 01:32:11,980
Doan decides not to testify,
1240
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:14,755
she will be convicted
and sentenced to death:
1241
01:32:14,779 --> 01:32:16,507
There's no other option whatsoever.
1242
01:32:27,068 --> 01:32:28,876
So, upon arriving here this morning,
1243
01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,388
one thing I noticed is
1244
01:32:30,867 --> 01:32:33,756
the presence of Vietnamese
officials from the embassy,
1245
01:32:33,797 --> 01:32:36,173
including the Vietnamese
Ambassador to Malaysia.
1246
01:32:38,904 --> 01:32:40,914
Which, in a way, is
1247
01:32:41,114 --> 01:32:43,307
a ray of hope, I suppose for Doan.
1248
01:32:43,308 --> 01:32:45,267
But, at the same time,
1249
01:32:45,268 --> 01:32:46,977
it is still
1250
01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:49,884
pretty much not clear what
is going to happen to her.
1251
01:32:51,961 --> 01:32:53,648
The charges against her still stand
1252
01:32:53,889 --> 01:32:58,294
and her defense lawyers have tried to get
the Attorney General to change his mind.
1253
01:32:59,113 --> 01:33:01,840
So, today we will find out whether
1254
01:33:02,233 --> 01:33:03,740
that would happen or not.
1255
01:33:17,653 --> 01:33:21,213
QUIET PLEASE.
COURT IS IN SESSION.
1256
01:33:49,517 --> 01:33:51,083
How do you feel, Doan?
1257
01:33:51,167 --> 01:33:52,697
Thank you so much.
1258
01:33:56,998 --> 01:33:58,765
- You're happy?
- I'm happy.
1259
01:34:03,463 --> 01:34:04,844
Doan!
1260
01:34:12,219 --> 01:34:15,014
We feel very lucky and happy.
1261
01:34:15,081 --> 01:34:18,662
The family is very,
very lucky today and very happy.
1262
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:20,493
Thank you very much.
1263
01:34:21,932 --> 01:34:24,352
So instead of facing a murder charge,
1264
01:34:24,899 --> 01:34:27,744
she is being offered to
1265
01:34:28,209 --> 01:34:31,711
plead guilty to a charge of causing harm,
1266
01:34:32,458 --> 01:34:35,919
which is a much lesser offense than murder.
1267
01:34:37,019 --> 01:34:40,586
Would you say it is finally
a happy ending for everyone?
1268
01:34:41,509 --> 01:34:44,761
We are happy this morning that
it's come to a happy ending,
1269
01:34:44,762 --> 01:34:48,311
that Doan can look forward - there's a
date for her that she can go back home.
1270
01:34:48,336 --> 01:34:50,055
And that day is very near.
1271
01:35:03,248 --> 01:35:05,437
One minute, one minute.
Take their photo.
1272
01:35:05,462 --> 01:35:06,888
One, two...
1273
01:35:08,270 --> 01:35:11,032
- Okay. Nice. Very good.
- Thank you.
1274
01:35:19,515 --> 01:35:21,612
Take off the specs.
1275
01:35:22,184 --> 01:35:27,314
What did you think about the most
while you were in custody?
1276
01:35:28,054 --> 01:35:30,057
I thought about my parents,
1277
01:35:30,454 --> 01:35:34,061
I thought about my country and
how much I wanted to come home.
1278
01:35:34,086 --> 01:35:36,951
What do you want to do
now that you're back?
1279
01:35:37,571 --> 01:35:39,650
I don't know what to do yet,
1280
01:35:39,651 --> 01:35:42,464
but I think I'd like to perform.
1281
01:35:44,072 --> 01:35:46,998
Like an actress. That's what I want.
1282
01:35:50,801 --> 01:35:52,295
Thank you.
1283
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,201
Thank you, see you later.
1284
01:35:56,052 --> 01:35:58,985
Thank you, I'm very happy now.
Thank you so much.
1285
01:36:00,324 --> 01:36:01,809
Yeah. Yes.
1286
01:36:06,095 --> 01:36:08,061
It is in a way a bittersweet ending.
1287
01:36:11,599 --> 01:36:13,732
Seeing now that the two women are home.
1288
01:36:15,382 --> 01:36:18,022
Both families have their
daughters back safely.
1289
01:36:19,959 --> 01:36:22,269
But I don't think their
lives will ever be the same.
1290
01:36:25,646 --> 01:36:29,866
I only learned about Kim
Jong-nam and Kim Jong-un
1291
01:36:29,993 --> 01:36:32,661
after coming back to Indonesia.
1292
01:36:34,545 --> 01:36:38,417
I searched and read about
my case from the start,
1293
01:36:38,418 --> 01:36:40,085
how everything happened,
1294
01:36:40,238 --> 01:36:42,337
and saw photos of Kim Jong-nam.
1295
01:36:42,338 --> 01:36:44,434
"Oh, this is Kim Jong-nam, Kim Jong-un."
1296
01:36:44,674 --> 01:36:46,368
It's only now...
1297
01:36:46,596 --> 01:36:49,640
only now that I really understand.
1298
01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:58,335
I never imagined
1299
01:36:59,272 --> 01:37:03,598
that I could be involved in his murder.
1300
01:37:07,091 --> 01:37:09,231
I feel really sorry for him.
1301
01:37:10,002 --> 01:37:11,502
Really sorry.
1302
01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:23,726
- Hello, Noi?
- Oh yeah, yes?
1303
01:37:24,340 --> 01:37:25,789
What are you doing?
1304
01:37:26,103 --> 01:37:27,716
Okay. I want to -
1305
01:37:27,717 --> 01:37:30,552
I want to see you. I miss you.
1306
01:37:30,553 --> 01:37:31,928
I miss you too.
1307
01:37:38,097 --> 01:37:40,974
When I came back, a lot of difficult,
1308
01:37:41,832 --> 01:37:43,458
a lot of media and
1309
01:37:43,804 --> 01:37:45,567
talking. People talking.
1310
01:37:51,630 --> 01:37:54,784
People don't know me and Siti.
1311
01:37:55,536 --> 01:37:56,636
People...
1312
01:37:59,382 --> 01:38:02,602
just watching on the television.
1313
01:38:03,205 --> 01:38:04,595
People don't know
1314
01:38:05,143 --> 01:38:08,122
how difficult time we have had.
1315
01:38:11,061 --> 01:38:12,801
Before, I think
1316
01:38:13,388 --> 01:38:15,389
the world is pink color.
1317
01:38:16,808 --> 01:38:20,143
The pink world is very
beautiful and colorful. Right?
1318
01:38:20,995 --> 01:38:23,348
And all people is good people.
1319
01:38:24,553 --> 01:38:28,848
But now I can see more clear.
1320
01:38:32,845 --> 01:38:35,844
I can see the real world is not pink.
1321
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:40,110
I will be careful in my life
1322
01:38:40,998 --> 01:38:43,834
to trust people.
1323
01:38:46,791 --> 01:38:48,151
It's the end of
1324
01:38:48,896 --> 01:38:50,814
the journey for these two women.
1325
01:38:52,727 --> 01:38:56,187
But is what happened
over the last two years,
1326
01:38:57,088 --> 01:38:58,963
can we say this is justice?
1327
01:38:59,821 --> 01:39:02,160
And is there ever going to be justice for
1328
01:39:02,551 --> 01:39:04,294
the late Kim Jong-nam?
1329
01:39:09,601 --> 01:39:11,990
For all the international
condemnation and shock
1330
01:39:12,015 --> 01:39:14,015
that followed this
assassination,
1331
01:39:14,681 --> 01:39:18,928
you know, North Korea has got away
relatively scot-free from this.
1332
01:39:20,742 --> 01:39:23,201
In many ways,
this is the perfect crime.
1333
01:39:24,145 --> 01:39:29,591
The fact that Kim Jong-un was prepared
to purge and execute his brother,
1334
01:39:29,858 --> 01:39:32,000
in this most spectacular fashion,
1335
01:39:32,138 --> 01:39:36,215
sent a message to the world that
his brutality knows no limits,
1336
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,966
that nobody is safe.
1337
01:39:40,326 --> 01:39:43,506
The North Koreans never suffered
any punishment for this.
1338
01:39:43,946 --> 01:39:46,994
North Korea still has
an embassy in Malaysia.
1339
01:39:47,019 --> 01:39:50,477
You know, the relations between
them have not really suffered
1340
01:39:50,502 --> 01:39:52,067
as a result of this.
1341
01:39:53,260 --> 01:39:54,920
And Kim Jong-un,
1342
01:39:56,029 --> 01:39:58,854
he has been able
to come to the outside world.
1343
01:40:00,304 --> 01:40:04,835
And he gets his red carpet welcome
on the dais with the flags.
1344
01:40:05,091 --> 01:40:08,385
He gets the photo opportunity
to show himself
1345
01:40:08,410 --> 01:40:10,516
as an international statesman.
1346
01:40:12,538 --> 01:40:17,098
And now, all of a sudden,
he gets to present himself
1347
01:40:17,518 --> 01:40:21,526
as a peer of the most powerful
man in the world.
1348
01:40:22,913 --> 01:40:25,541
I just received a
beautiful letter from Kim Jong-un.
1349
01:40:25,566 --> 01:40:29,099
I can't show you the letter,
obviously, but it was a very personal,
1350
01:40:29,124 --> 01:40:30,866
very warm, very nice letter.
1351
01:40:30,891 --> 01:40:35,430
I saw the information about the CIA
with respect to his half-brother.
1352
01:40:35,619 --> 01:40:40,337
And I would tell him that would not
happen under my... under my auspices.
1353
01:40:41,820 --> 01:40:45,842
So this is the way that Kim
Jong-un has defied all the skepticism
1354
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,435
and shown that he is, you know,
surprisingly adept
1355
01:40:49,460 --> 01:40:52,426
at being a totalitarian leader.
1356
01:40:54,771 --> 01:40:58,424
And I think these two women
were very unwitting pawns
1357
01:40:58,449 --> 01:41:00,131
in this bigger chess game.
1358
01:41:04,427 --> 01:41:06,720
I'm sorry about everything.
1359
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:09,310
I hope
1360
01:41:09,815 --> 01:41:12,257
people in the world will think
1361
01:41:12,906 --> 01:41:15,353
me and Siti like
1362
01:41:16,696 --> 01:41:18,989
your friends, like
1363
01:41:19,378 --> 01:41:21,529
your daughters, like
1364
01:41:22,168 --> 01:41:23,768
your sisters.
1365
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:38,109
When I was in Kajang Prison,
1366
01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:43,920
I'd be lying down falling asleep,
1367
01:41:43,995 --> 01:41:47,622
and I would stare out the window.
1368
01:41:49,186 --> 01:41:51,508
It was way high up on the wall.
1369
01:41:58,334 --> 01:42:01,127
I would pray as I gazed at the sky,
1370
01:42:02,633 --> 01:42:06,844
"Oh Allah, will I ever see the sky again,
1371
01:42:07,481 --> 01:42:10,214
in all its vastness?"
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