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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,495 --> 00:00:40,750 Do you think you'd be okay speaking on camera? 2 00:00:41,524 --> 00:00:45,811 So we can show you as Siti's friend? 3 00:00:46,958 --> 00:00:51,204 But I want to protect my identity. What if people say, 4 00:00:51,558 --> 00:00:55,866 "That girl is the friend of a murderer"? 5 00:01:04,022 --> 00:01:06,566 We were friends. We liked to hang out. 6 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:10,072 We liked talking, eating, shopping. 7 00:01:13,644 --> 00:01:14,921 Hi. 8 00:01:15,687 --> 00:01:19,027 Siti's really pretty and down to earth. 9 00:01:19,469 --> 00:01:21,219 Somebody is having a baby... 10 00:01:24,154 --> 00:01:27,551 She was always making jokes. 11 00:01:28,477 --> 00:01:32,480 She's friendly and "happy go lucky." 12 00:01:32,816 --> 00:01:34,729 Thank you. Buh-bye. 13 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:41,183 This is her last Facebook post. 14 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:45,771 The night before the murder, 15 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:50,359 Siti celebrated her birthday at Hard Rock Cafe. 16 00:01:50,388 --> 00:01:52,079 Siti! 17 00:01:54,508 --> 00:01:55,723 Here we go! 18 00:01:55,748 --> 00:01:57,738 One, two, three! 19 00:01:58,094 --> 00:02:01,431 ♪ Happy birthday to you... ♪ 20 00:02:01,676 --> 00:02:04,489 She seemed really happy. 21 00:02:05,869 --> 00:02:08,104 ♪ Happy birthday... ♪ 22 00:02:12,569 --> 00:02:15,404 We couldn't believe that she murdered someone the next morning. 23 00:02:31,073 --> 00:02:33,441 We are back with an apparent assassination, 24 00:02:33,466 --> 00:02:36,240 brazenly carried out at an international airport. 25 00:02:36,265 --> 00:02:39,320 Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother of the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, 26 00:02:39,345 --> 00:02:40,963 was murdered in Malaysia... 27 00:02:40,988 --> 00:02:43,179 ...the sudden and mysterious death of the half-brother 28 00:02:43,204 --> 00:02:44,656 of the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. 29 00:02:50,678 --> 00:02:52,759 Kim Jong-nam was at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport 30 00:02:52,784 --> 00:02:54,379 when he was reportedly poisoned. 31 00:02:54,404 --> 00:02:56,393 ...after he was sprayed in the face with a chemical. 32 00:02:56,417 --> 00:02:58,645 ...by two female assassins... 33 00:02:58,670 --> 00:03:02,178 A cold-blooded execution, straight from a spy movie, 34 00:03:02,203 --> 00:03:03,296 local media reports say. 35 00:03:03,321 --> 00:03:04,908 Two femme fatale killers 36 00:03:05,046 --> 00:03:09,292 poisoning a mysterious political figure with a chemical weapon. 37 00:03:09,519 --> 00:03:11,467 Malaysian police said the poison used 38 00:03:11,532 --> 00:03:13,720 was the deadly VX nerve agent. 39 00:03:13,745 --> 00:03:18,018 ...one of the fastest-acting fatal poisons that exists, according to scientists. 40 00:03:18,043 --> 00:03:20,100 The U.S. and South Korea believe the murder 41 00:03:20,125 --> 00:03:23,523 was an assassination organized by North Korean agents. 42 00:03:23,548 --> 00:03:26,733 But North Korea denies involvement in the crime. 43 00:03:26,758 --> 00:03:29,218 Tonight, little is known about the two women 44 00:03:29,243 --> 00:03:32,221 who have just been arrested in connection with the murder. 45 00:03:32,246 --> 00:03:34,466 Were the women trained assassins 46 00:03:34,632 --> 00:03:37,686 or innocent pawns of North Korean agents? 47 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,293 I started covering the Kim Jong-nam murder trial 48 00:04:17,747 --> 00:04:20,173 from day one, when the first news broke. 49 00:04:24,179 --> 00:04:27,026 A reporter's job is to tell the world the truth. 50 00:04:28,067 --> 00:04:31,592 But in Malaysia, the freedom of press is limited. 51 00:04:33,011 --> 00:04:35,900 Most of the big media agencies 52 00:04:35,901 --> 00:04:38,611 are owned by the government. 53 00:04:39,566 --> 00:04:42,126 So, it's hard to get the truth out. 54 00:04:47,561 --> 00:04:51,394 But, I am lucky that my media organization is not a local one. 55 00:04:51,910 --> 00:04:54,320 So we are quite open with what we can publish. 56 00:04:55,467 --> 00:05:01,120 It's one of those big stories that is a dream for a reporter to report on. 57 00:05:04,531 --> 00:05:07,074 So around 9 AM, Kim Jong-nam walked 58 00:05:07,582 --> 00:05:09,764 through this entrance to the terminal. 59 00:05:12,025 --> 00:05:14,552 He was just alone. No one was with him. 60 00:05:19,214 --> 00:05:22,320 And right behind this column, 61 00:05:22,345 --> 00:05:24,860 there was one woman waiting for him. 62 00:05:26,182 --> 00:05:27,725 This is Siti Aisyah, 63 00:05:28,299 --> 00:05:30,384 the woman in a light gray shirt. 64 00:05:30,724 --> 00:05:33,451 And from that way, 65 00:05:34,657 --> 00:05:36,918 Doan Thi Huong was coming towards him. 66 00:05:37,405 --> 00:05:40,104 She was wearing a white T-shirt that says "LOL." 67 00:05:42,274 --> 00:05:45,180 So he was supposed to print out his boarding pass, 68 00:05:45,431 --> 00:05:47,309 but before he was able to do that, 69 00:05:47,334 --> 00:05:49,657 Kim Jong-nam was jumped by Siti Aisyah and Doan. 70 00:05:50,946 --> 00:05:55,616 And they allegedly smeared VX chemical onto his face. 71 00:05:58,307 --> 00:05:59,740 The women ran away. 72 00:05:59,846 --> 00:06:05,140 And then from the CCTV footage you can clearly see that Kim Jong-nam was 73 00:06:05,373 --> 00:06:07,575 making this gesture to police officers 74 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:10,973 that these two women came up to smear his face with a chemical. 75 00:06:13,536 --> 00:06:17,709 And from there the police officers escorted Kim Jong-nam towards the clinic. 76 00:06:18,453 --> 00:06:21,538 You can see that he is starting to limp, 77 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,015 like he has already been affected by something. 78 00:06:25,713 --> 00:06:27,713 He was given medical attention, 79 00:06:29,115 --> 00:06:31,255 but within an hour, he was dead. 80 00:06:39,896 --> 00:06:41,536 Meanwhile, the two women, 81 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:44,780 they both went down to level 2 to the toilet 82 00:06:44,805 --> 00:06:46,323 to wash their hands. 83 00:06:46,921 --> 00:06:48,494 It seems to suggest that 84 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,768 they knew that the chemical on their hands 85 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,693 is something dangerous. 86 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:00,241 They have a certain 87 00:07:02,407 --> 00:07:03,953 cool, calculative 88 00:07:04,481 --> 00:07:06,315 confidence in their walk. 89 00:07:08,869 --> 00:07:12,688 Here is what I find interesting, because 90 00:07:13,412 --> 00:07:15,828 she's walking and then she... 91 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:19,737 she looked into the CCTV camera. 92 00:07:20,650 --> 00:07:22,609 As if challenging, you know? 93 00:07:25,214 --> 00:07:27,131 Yeah, I just did that. So what? 94 00:07:28,344 --> 00:07:29,769 Well, one thing is clear. 95 00:07:29,794 --> 00:07:32,992 This is one of the most bizarre murder plots in decades. 96 00:07:33,017 --> 00:07:35,925 It really is incredible, when you look at this woman, 97 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:38,009 who is acting in broad daylight. 98 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:39,468 Who are these women, 99 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:41,633 and do they work for the North Korean regime? 100 00:07:49,563 --> 00:07:51,519 Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong 101 00:07:51,544 --> 00:07:54,723 were charged with exposing the deadly nerve agent VX 102 00:07:54,724 --> 00:07:56,250 to Kim Jong-nam's face. 103 00:07:56,997 --> 00:07:59,436 Doan Thi Huong and Siti Aisyah were arrested 104 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:01,772 and now face the death penalty by hanging. 105 00:08:04,383 --> 00:08:05,997 I didn't know at first. 106 00:08:04,397 --> 00:08:07,020 ASRIA NUR HASAN: 107 00:08:07,989 --> 00:08:10,115 I was at prayer. 108 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,079 Praying. 109 00:08:16,143 --> 00:08:20,382 Reciting Qur'an at a funeral. A friend had died. 110 00:08:29,809 --> 00:08:31,369 And then I found out. 111 00:08:34,378 --> 00:08:35,877 I felt, 112 00:08:37,036 --> 00:08:39,204 how could I, as a parent... 113 00:08:39,866 --> 00:08:41,045 it felt like... 114 00:08:41,552 --> 00:08:48,145 how could something like this happen? 115 00:08:48,837 --> 00:08:52,628 What could have brought her to do such a thing? 116 00:08:53,993 --> 00:08:57,654 I think she didn't know what she was doing. 117 00:08:59,871 --> 00:09:02,131 If I asked her to do something, 118 00:09:02,851 --> 00:09:05,564 she would do it. 119 00:09:06,604 --> 00:09:08,730 That's the kind of person she is. 120 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:22,823 I've never actually seen this photo. 121 00:09:23,988 --> 00:09:25,088 Wow. 122 00:09:27,998 --> 00:09:31,812 My obsession with North Korea goes back a long way. 123 00:09:32,538 --> 00:09:35,691 I started covering North Korea in 2004. 124 00:09:36,158 --> 00:09:38,251 And I have not stopped yet. 125 00:09:38,818 --> 00:09:40,994 So, when the assassination happened, 126 00:09:41,132 --> 00:09:44,687 I came out of a yoga class, it was like nine o'clock at night, 127 00:09:44,712 --> 00:09:46,112 and I looked at my phone 128 00:09:46,137 --> 00:09:48,622 and saw it had blown up. 129 00:09:48,647 --> 00:09:50,790 Kim Jong-nam has been assassinated. 130 00:09:51,061 --> 00:09:54,582 Kim Jong-nam, at one point, was the favorite son of Kim Jong-il, 131 00:09:54,607 --> 00:09:56,227 the former leader of North Korea. 132 00:09:56,252 --> 00:09:59,180 He has been known as a potential rival for Kim Jong-un. 133 00:09:59,322 --> 00:10:01,536 And it's raising suspicions that Kim Jong-un 134 00:10:01,561 --> 00:10:05,150 may have once again marked one of his own relatives for death. 135 00:10:06,433 --> 00:10:08,886 It was so surprising to me, you know, the footage, 136 00:10:08,979 --> 00:10:11,999 to see Kim Jong-nam standing in this airport. 137 00:10:12,136 --> 00:10:14,049 I mean, it's so amazing to think, you know, 138 00:10:14,074 --> 00:10:17,194 I was trying to find Kim Jong-nam for several years before he was killed, 139 00:10:17,219 --> 00:10:21,216 and just to see him walking around, no hat, no sunglasses. 140 00:10:22,162 --> 00:10:25,376 It's really like, wow, I wish I had have been able to talk to him. 141 00:10:29,031 --> 00:10:31,758 And there's this myth that the Kim family 142 00:10:31,822 --> 00:10:34,538 was descended from Mount Paektu, 143 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:37,291 which is this mountain at the top of North Korea 144 00:10:37,316 --> 00:10:38,889 on the border with China, 145 00:10:38,914 --> 00:10:41,757 that is the mythical home of all Korean people. 146 00:10:44,241 --> 00:10:47,612 And so the Kim regime has used this to say, 147 00:10:47,677 --> 00:10:51,183 "We were divinely ordained to lead North Korea," 148 00:10:51,208 --> 00:10:53,204 and it's called the Paektu bloodline. 149 00:10:55,344 --> 00:10:59,348 So Kim Il-sung passed down the leadership of North Korea 150 00:10:59,373 --> 00:11:01,961 to his son, Kim Jong-il, 151 00:11:01,986 --> 00:11:04,644 using this whole Paektu bloodline mythology 152 00:11:04,762 --> 00:11:06,902 as the basis for his legitimacy. 153 00:11:06,986 --> 00:11:09,673 So when it came time for Kim Jong-il 154 00:11:09,698 --> 00:11:11,458 to anoint one of his sons, 155 00:11:11,491 --> 00:11:13,991 it should have gone to Kim Jong-nam. 156 00:11:15,102 --> 00:11:16,389 Are you Kim Jong-nam? 157 00:11:16,834 --> 00:11:18,694 - Are you Kim Jong-nam? - No. 158 00:11:19,349 --> 00:11:20,661 I cannot tell you. 159 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:23,475 It's my privacy, man. 160 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:29,498 Kim Jong-nam was the first-born son of Kim Jong-il. 161 00:11:31,314 --> 00:11:33,765 And, in fact, Kim Jong-nam's mother 162 00:11:33,882 --> 00:11:37,472 was a famous actress who Kim Jong-il spotted 163 00:11:37,570 --> 00:11:39,996 and took her basically as his wife. 164 00:11:41,211 --> 00:11:44,179 But Kim Jong-il really doted on Kim Jong-nam. 165 00:11:44,598 --> 00:11:46,738 He was absolutely besotted with this boy 166 00:11:46,763 --> 00:11:51,341 and really seemed to relish his time as a father at the beginning. 167 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,699 Kim Jong-nam and Kim Jong-un grew up entirely separate. 168 00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:05,601 They had different mothers. 169 00:12:05,626 --> 00:12:07,655 And there's a 10-year age difference. 170 00:12:08,382 --> 00:12:12,302 Kim Jong-un's mother was another woman, she was a famous dancer, 171 00:12:12,327 --> 00:12:15,787 and was very ambitious and very present. 172 00:12:16,313 --> 00:12:18,542 She was advocating and agitating 173 00:12:18,567 --> 00:12:22,155 for her son, for him to be the leader of North Korea, 174 00:12:22,293 --> 00:12:25,305 and she had a very powerful influence in the system there. 175 00:12:31,060 --> 00:12:32,959 So, at the beginning of the 2000s, 176 00:12:32,984 --> 00:12:37,486 Kim Jong-nam was caught in this very embarrassing situation. 177 00:12:38,066 --> 00:12:42,106 He had taken his young family to Tokyo 178 00:12:42,626 --> 00:12:45,026 and was busted by the Japanese police. 179 00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:49,412 He'd gone in under a fake Dominican Republic passport, 180 00:12:49,606 --> 00:12:53,819 using a Chinese name, Pang Xiong, which means "fat bear." 181 00:12:54,526 --> 00:12:58,045 And he said, you know, he just wanted to take his kid to Disneyland. 182 00:12:59,825 --> 00:13:02,620 It was extremely embarrassing for the regime. 183 00:13:02,752 --> 00:13:05,967 America is North Korea's number-one enemy 184 00:13:06,499 --> 00:13:11,301 and Disneyland, you know, can you get more American than Disneyland? 185 00:13:13,609 --> 00:13:15,335 But, in fact, there were rumors 186 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,124 that Kim Jong-un's mother actually tipped off the Japanese police 187 00:13:19,149 --> 00:13:21,766 to the arrival of Kim Jong-nam in Japan 188 00:13:21,904 --> 00:13:23,805 because she wanted to make sure 189 00:13:23,830 --> 00:13:27,425 that he could not become the next leader of North Korea. 190 00:13:29,899 --> 00:13:32,852 So, Kim Jong-nam struck a deal with his father 191 00:13:32,877 --> 00:13:35,220 to be allowed to leave North Korea. 192 00:13:36,481 --> 00:13:40,173 He moved to Macau, a Chinese territory, 193 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,867 where he was able to live a kind of normal life. 194 00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:48,040 But he was ruled out of the succession line. 195 00:13:49,125 --> 00:13:51,798 And throughout history, we've seen 196 00:13:51,898 --> 00:13:54,523 brothers being sidelined 197 00:13:54,548 --> 00:13:55,864 in this way. 198 00:13:56,923 --> 00:14:01,928 From Cain and Abel to Romulus and Remus at the foundation of Rome. 199 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:04,474 Brothers are so threatening 200 00:14:04,499 --> 00:14:07,558 because they can stake a claim to leadership 201 00:14:07,583 --> 00:14:09,447 that nobody else can. 202 00:14:11,753 --> 00:14:15,380 So, when I discovered that Kim Jong-nam had been killed, 203 00:14:15,518 --> 00:14:19,013 I hopped on the first flight that I could get to Kuala Lumpur. 204 00:14:26,405 --> 00:14:27,738 Good morning, everyone. 205 00:14:28,966 --> 00:14:31,418 Welcome to the foreign journalists, 206 00:14:31,663 --> 00:14:33,403 welcome to Malaysia as well. 207 00:14:33,938 --> 00:14:35,769 We have arrested two ladies, 208 00:14:35,794 --> 00:14:38,876 and we have identified both of them. 209 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,478 The Malaysian police announced that they have arrested Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong. 210 00:14:46,272 --> 00:14:49,172 They also announced there were eight North Korean suspects. 211 00:14:50,295 --> 00:14:53,972 And out of those eight, four of them were at the airport 212 00:14:53,997 --> 00:14:56,082 on the same day as Siti Aisyah and Doan, 213 00:14:56,107 --> 00:15:00,527 And they left the country immediately after Kim Jong-nam's attack. 214 00:15:01,217 --> 00:15:03,615 And then, they also announced the arrest of 215 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,496 one North Korean guy, 216 00:15:05,682 --> 00:15:07,975 Ri Jong Choi. who was living in Malaysia 217 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,960 and he happens to be a chemist. 218 00:15:11,701 --> 00:15:15,627 Ri Jong Choi, the suspect that was detained... 219 00:15:15,928 --> 00:15:20,807 Can you clear up, because there are rumors that he was the driver or he was a chemistry expert... 220 00:15:21,415 --> 00:15:24,840 He is subject of our investigation. How can we tell you? 221 00:15:25,396 --> 00:15:27,220 We found out that Ri Jong Choi is 222 00:15:27,245 --> 00:15:29,356 on the payroll of the North Korean embassy. 223 00:15:29,501 --> 00:15:35,580 He lives in a house paid by the North Korean government in Kuala Lumpur. 224 00:15:37,303 --> 00:15:38,876 I was just wondering... 225 00:15:39,323 --> 00:15:40,989 the two female suspects, 226 00:15:41,014 --> 00:15:44,056 did they know the substance was toxic? 227 00:15:44,161 --> 00:15:46,671 Well, I think you have seen the video, right? 228 00:15:46,824 --> 00:15:48,712 You have seen the - 229 00:15:48,737 --> 00:15:52,695 the lady who was moving away with her hands like this, 230 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,842 towards the bathroom. Towards the washroom. 231 00:15:55,104 --> 00:15:57,731 So she knew very well that 232 00:15:57,785 --> 00:16:00,597 it is toxic and she needs to wash her hands. 233 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,373 Hello. 234 00:16:20,740 --> 00:16:22,026 Yes, speaking. 235 00:16:23,576 --> 00:16:24,673 Yes. 236 00:16:25,452 --> 00:16:28,599 Because our theory is that this was a political assassination. 237 00:16:28,838 --> 00:16:31,840 More than just the two girls being involved 238 00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:33,992 in an ordinary murder case. 239 00:16:35,698 --> 00:16:40,326 Well, we do not know exactly what type of evidence the police have in hand. 240 00:16:44,773 --> 00:16:46,524 When we approach any case, 241 00:16:46,672 --> 00:16:48,882 we will not accept what our client tells us. 242 00:16:49,594 --> 00:16:53,181 We will investigate on our own and see whether our client is telling the truth. 243 00:16:58,726 --> 00:17:04,105 After Siti Aisyah was arrested, we saw her the very next day. 244 00:17:05,468 --> 00:17:09,012 And there in prison, there were other inmates who told her that, 245 00:17:09,224 --> 00:17:11,476 "You are going to be the next 'BA.'" 246 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:12,864 "BA" is the - 247 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:14,366 banduan akhir. 248 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,242 That means on death row. 249 00:17:16,243 --> 00:17:17,858 You are going to be the next one. 250 00:17:20,522 --> 00:17:22,958 In Malaysia, if they're found guilty, 251 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:25,293 then it's a mandatory death sentence. 252 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:28,620 That is hanging by the neck until you are dead. 253 00:17:29,024 --> 00:17:31,107 They will put a sandbag, 254 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,147 which would be sufficient to snap your neck immediately when... 255 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,213 You will die instantaneously. 256 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,252 Okay, all right, then. I will check that. Thank you. 257 00:17:48,682 --> 00:17:51,136 We advised her to be very careful 258 00:17:51,260 --> 00:17:53,925 not to talk about her story to anyone, 259 00:17:53,950 --> 00:17:55,075 even Doan. 260 00:17:55,389 --> 00:17:58,263 Because we don't know Doan's story. 261 00:17:58,701 --> 00:18:00,467 The girls don't know each other, 262 00:18:00,492 --> 00:18:02,634 and we don't know whether Doan is 263 00:18:02,659 --> 00:18:05,321 working together with the North Koreans. 264 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:18,381 Not bad, eh? I can get the documents I want. 265 00:18:20,739 --> 00:18:22,085 Very organized. 266 00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:25,633 Okay, this is quite clear. 267 00:18:26,786 --> 00:18:28,113 The victim is here. 268 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:31,610 And then I think the incident takes place... 269 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:35,113 Okay, this is on the day of the incident itself. 270 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,948 This is her action of putting up the hands like that. 271 00:18:37,973 --> 00:18:40,186 And that is the crucial moment. 272 00:18:43,636 --> 00:18:46,243 I first met Doan in prison. 273 00:18:49,289 --> 00:18:52,583 There were two officers from the Vietnamese embassy and myself. 274 00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:55,250 And when she was brought to us, 275 00:18:56,071 --> 00:18:58,898 she was happy to see officers of the embassy, 276 00:18:59,185 --> 00:19:01,158 who could speak her own language. 277 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,287 She was hopeful then at that point of time. 278 00:19:29,164 --> 00:19:33,418 These are all the certificates Doan has earned since she was little. 279 00:19:40,395 --> 00:19:43,135 She was always well-behaved, a good student. 280 00:19:43,391 --> 00:19:45,350 Nothing troublesome. 281 00:19:47,547 --> 00:19:52,560 We are farmers, my parents were farmers. 282 00:19:53,988 --> 00:19:56,279 Doan's mother passed away three years ago, 283 00:19:56,304 --> 00:19:58,008 before all this happened. 284 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,300 Doan was a good girl. 285 00:20:05,747 --> 00:20:09,541 She was even terrified of butchering a chicken. 286 00:20:10,918 --> 00:20:14,017 She wouldn't dare kill it. I always had to do it for her. 287 00:20:16,141 --> 00:20:20,241 She went to Hanoi for college a few years ago. 288 00:20:22,506 --> 00:20:25,852 I think the world out there seduced her. 289 00:20:33,638 --> 00:20:36,278 When suddenly this happened, 290 00:20:36,303 --> 00:20:40,031 everybody in the family was shocked. 291 00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:50,511 I sent her a letter encouraging her that if she did do it, 292 00:20:50,694 --> 00:20:52,361 she should confess it. 293 00:20:53,588 --> 00:20:56,189 Whatever she did or however it happened, 294 00:20:56,919 --> 00:20:58,835 only she knows. 295 00:21:00,076 --> 00:21:03,190 We love her very much, but we don't know how to help her. 296 00:21:17,757 --> 00:21:20,217 It has been seven days since the incident. 297 00:21:20,488 --> 00:21:25,514 There is an allegation that the arrested female suspects murdered him. 298 00:21:26,418 --> 00:21:30,285 The Malaysian police are desperate to shift the blame on us. 299 00:21:31,006 --> 00:21:34,340 Last Friday night, they raided the condominium 300 00:21:34,433 --> 00:21:37,819 of our citizen here in Kuala Lumpur 301 00:21:38,083 --> 00:21:40,126 and forcibly arrested him. 302 00:21:40,823 --> 00:21:42,651 The North Korean ambassador in Malaysia 303 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:44,260 held a press conference 304 00:21:44,396 --> 00:21:45,896 talking about Ri Jong Chol, 305 00:21:46,313 --> 00:21:48,887 the North Korean chemist who was arrested. 306 00:21:49,336 --> 00:21:51,700 This is a grave human rights violation. 307 00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:55,762 Saying that they have distrust in the Malaysian police investigation. 308 00:21:56,979 --> 00:21:58,382 Malaysia reacted 309 00:22:00,756 --> 00:22:03,222 by expelling the North Korean ambassador. 310 00:22:05,049 --> 00:22:08,135 From there, North Korea issued a ban 311 00:22:08,306 --> 00:22:11,123 on Malaysians leaving North Korea. 312 00:22:11,952 --> 00:22:14,975 So all these people who are embassy staff and their families, 313 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,751 they are trapped in North Korea. 314 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:19,345 So they are basically hostages. 315 00:22:22,536 --> 00:22:24,162 And then, in March, 316 00:22:24,393 --> 00:22:27,795 Malaysia and North Korea actually had a negotiation. 317 00:22:28,239 --> 00:22:31,232 North Korea demanded the release of Ri Jong Choi, 318 00:22:31,690 --> 00:22:33,953 as well as the release of two suspects 319 00:22:33,978 --> 00:22:36,401 who were hiding in the North Korean embassy. 320 00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:39,781 They are a North Korean embassy official 321 00:22:39,806 --> 00:22:44,608 and an employee of Air Koryo, the North Korean national airline. 322 00:22:45,508 --> 00:22:48,343 They also demanded the body of Kim Jong-nam 323 00:22:48,532 --> 00:22:51,116 to be sent back to North Korea. 324 00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:53,312 After years in exile, 325 00:22:53,337 --> 00:22:56,424 the murdered half-brother of North Korea's dictator 326 00:22:56,457 --> 00:22:58,009 has finally gone home. 327 00:22:58,186 --> 00:23:00,723 It's a clean sweep tonight for Kim Jong-un. 328 00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:03,411 North Korea's dangerous young leader has gotten the body 329 00:23:03,436 --> 00:23:05,880 of his murdered half-brother Kim Jong-nam. 330 00:23:06,107 --> 00:23:08,541 And Malaysia has released three North Koreans 331 00:23:08,566 --> 00:23:10,574 wanted for questioning in the murder. 332 00:23:10,869 --> 00:23:13,051 Chaos at Beijing's airport Friday 333 00:23:13,076 --> 00:23:16,889 as North Korean Ri Jong Chol made his way through the crowd. 334 00:23:17,222 --> 00:23:20,512 Ri was released and then deported by Malaysian authorities 335 00:23:20,563 --> 00:23:22,351 after being held as a suspect 336 00:23:22,376 --> 00:23:26,345 in the murder of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's estranged half-brother. 337 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,656 It was very difficult to bear but I said to myself 338 00:23:28,681 --> 00:23:31,131 that I must get through this, 339 00:23:31,887 --> 00:23:35,014 because I cannot let them do this to me as a North Korean citizen, 340 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:38,191 when they dare to trample on the honor of North Korea. 341 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:42,501 At the same time, Malaysia got back nine of its citizens, 342 00:23:42,526 --> 00:23:45,698 who had been stuck in North Korea during this diplomatic standoff. 343 00:23:47,204 --> 00:23:49,601 The Malaysians insist that the three North Koreans 344 00:23:49,626 --> 00:23:51,879 were not traded for nine hostages. 345 00:23:52,085 --> 00:23:55,641 We are finished with them, so that's why we allowed them to go. 346 00:23:56,098 --> 00:24:01,165 Malaysia is one of those weird countries who actually has diplomatic relations with North Korea. 347 00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:03,572 A good working relationship with North Korea. 348 00:24:04,957 --> 00:24:07,302 It is very, very suspicious. 349 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:11,435 Why did you allow such important witnesses to go back to North Korea? 350 00:24:12,855 --> 00:24:18,109 If you decide to save the nine Malaysian hostages in exchange for all those that they demanded, 351 00:24:18,507 --> 00:24:21,760 I feel that they don't have the right to charge the two girls, 352 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,832 because you have compromised their right of defense. 353 00:24:29,983 --> 00:24:31,399 The trial begins today 354 00:24:31,424 --> 00:24:34,068 for the two women accused of murdering Kim Jong-nam, 355 00:24:34,146 --> 00:24:36,576 the half-brother of the North Korean premier. 356 00:24:37,312 --> 00:24:39,132 The women claim hey are innocent. 357 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:43,033 If found guilty, they face Malaysia's mandatory death penalty. 358 00:24:53,369 --> 00:24:55,821 PROSECUTOR: Siti Aisyah and Doan Thi Huong 359 00:24:55,846 --> 00:24:59,022 PROSECUTOR: are each charged with murder 360 00:24:59,714 --> 00:25:02,341 PROSECUTOR: along with four others at large 361 00:25:02,376 --> 00:25:05,061 PROSECUTOR: against a man named Kim Chol. 362 00:25:07,271 --> 00:25:12,599 Inside the courtroom, the prosecution is referring to Kim Jong-nam as "Kim Chol," 363 00:25:13,361 --> 00:25:16,480 which is the take name that appears on his passport. 364 00:25:16,646 --> 00:25:21,059 And what was interesting and perhaps controversial, 365 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:25,449 is that the prosecution also charged four North Koreans who are still at large, 366 00:25:25,703 --> 00:25:30,373 but was very reluctant to name the four North Koreans. 367 00:25:31,992 --> 00:25:36,351 HISYAM: I think we ought to know before the trial starts who the four persons are. 368 00:25:36,584 --> 00:25:39,661 HISYAM: The prosecution has got a legal duty to disclose, 369 00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:42,670 HISYAM: at the same time a moral duty to disclose. 370 00:25:44,692 --> 00:25:46,485 JUDGE: I find the omission to state the name 371 00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:48,237 JUDGE: of the four persons at large 372 00:25:48,262 --> 00:25:50,586 JUDGE: does not make the charge ambiguous. 373 00:25:50,969 --> 00:25:53,182 JUDGE: Objection is hereby overruled. 374 00:25:56,196 --> 00:25:59,027 It was not a good start for us. 375 00:26:04,011 --> 00:26:07,091 No matter what the position that the prosecution is taking, 376 00:26:08,742 --> 00:26:12,148 you cannot ignore the political angle of the assassination. 377 00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:24,233 Kim Jong-il died in 2011. 378 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:28,744 And Kim Jong-un was officially unveiled as the successor 379 00:26:28,769 --> 00:26:30,626 when he was 25 years old. 380 00:26:33,781 --> 00:26:37,981 There was a great deal of skepticism when Kim Jong-un was announced. 381 00:26:39,496 --> 00:26:40,912 He had no experience. 382 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:43,596 He was barely out of college at that stage. 383 00:26:43,896 --> 00:26:45,362 And there was the question 384 00:26:45,387 --> 00:26:49,603 if the old guard in North Korea, if they would tolerate 385 00:26:49,628 --> 00:26:53,171 this young upstart coming in and ordering them around. 386 00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:59,582 So there was a lot of doubt in Seoul, in Tokyo, in Washington, 387 00:26:59,607 --> 00:27:01,205 that Kim Jong-un would be able 388 00:27:01,230 --> 00:27:04,883 to keep this totalitarian regime together. 389 00:27:06,348 --> 00:27:08,549 So, since Kim Jong-un came into power, 390 00:27:08,574 --> 00:27:11,501 he has very kind of strategically acted 391 00:27:11,781 --> 00:27:14,746 to instill loyalty at the top of the regime, 392 00:27:14,994 --> 00:27:17,501 to make sure that the people who support him, 393 00:27:17,526 --> 00:27:19,494 the elites who keep him in power, 394 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,319 have even more reason than ever to keep him there. 395 00:27:23,414 --> 00:27:27,154 So, the millennials of Pyongyang can now do yoga classes 396 00:27:27,246 --> 00:27:28,592 and drink cappuccinos 397 00:27:28,617 --> 00:27:30,693 and they live a much better life 398 00:27:30,718 --> 00:27:33,329 than under his father or his grandfather. 399 00:27:34,333 --> 00:27:36,093 But the other part is fear. 400 00:27:36,688 --> 00:27:38,801 He also needs to keep them terrified. 401 00:27:39,108 --> 00:27:43,360 And the way that he has done this is by getting rid of anybody 402 00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,705 who threatens him, who questions him, 403 00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:47,252 who may in some way suggest 404 00:27:47,277 --> 00:27:49,945 that he's not the legitimate leader of North Korea. 405 00:27:50,442 --> 00:27:54,215 And as part of that, a lot of senior figures in the regime 406 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,621 have been purged. 407 00:27:56,571 --> 00:27:59,816 Even his uncle, Jang Song-thaek, was executed. 408 00:28:02,059 --> 00:28:06,639 And this is very much Kim Jong-un's MO for staying in power. 409 00:28:07,287 --> 00:28:08,805 No one is safe. 410 00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:13,277 And it was around that time, you know, Kim Jong-nam 411 00:28:13,302 --> 00:28:15,558 was traveling a lot around southeast Asia, 412 00:28:15,583 --> 00:28:18,884 and he made, you know, several surprising remarks, 413 00:28:18,909 --> 00:28:22,988 where he seemed to question his brother's legitimacy to lead 414 00:28:23,228 --> 00:28:27,542 and whether North Korea should have hereditary succession. 415 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:32,867 Hello, are you Mr. Kim Jong-nam? 416 00:28:32,892 --> 00:28:35,025 Yes, I am. Hello. 417 00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:39,010 As the first son, are you fine not being the successor? 418 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Personally I'm against a third-generation succession of the dynasty. 419 00:28:45,425 --> 00:28:47,104 And because of that, 420 00:28:47,202 --> 00:28:52,008 because he was, you know, threatening Kim Jong-un's right to lead North Korea, 421 00:28:52,255 --> 00:28:55,701 Kim Jong-nam was somebody who certainly would be considered a threat 422 00:28:55,726 --> 00:28:58,788 by Kim Jong-un and whose life could be in danger. 423 00:29:10,887 --> 00:29:13,380 Today the prosecution is calling Dr. Raja, 424 00:29:13,405 --> 00:29:16,367 who is the government's chemical weapons expert. 425 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,087 DR. RAJA: My lord, VX is the deadliest nerve agent ever created by a human being. 426 00:29:24,433 --> 00:29:27,779 DR. RAJA: A drop of VX is sufficient to cause fatality. 427 00:29:28,774 --> 00:29:32,013 DR. RAJA: We identified VX on blazer of victim 428 00:29:32,038 --> 00:29:35,227 DR. RAJA: and face and eye mucosa of victim. 429 00:29:35,697 --> 00:29:38,603 DR. RAJA: We found degradation product of VX 430 00:29:38,628 --> 00:29:41,523 DR. RAJA: on sleeveless shirt of Siti Aisyah. 431 00:29:41,693 --> 00:29:46,363 DR. RAJA: We found VX on LOL t-shirt of Doan. 432 00:29:47,406 --> 00:29:54,619 PROSECUTOR: What if just one drop of VX came into contact to human skin? 433 00:29:55,330 --> 00:29:57,963 DR. RAJA: If you decontaminate within fifteen minutes, 434 00:29:58,109 --> 00:30:02,169 DR. RAJA: you most likely will not see any effect or some delayed effect. 435 00:30:05,434 --> 00:30:09,250 So the big takeaway from his testimony is that it answers 436 00:30:09,628 --> 00:30:14,360 this lingering question of why the VX chemical, which we know is very toxic, 437 00:30:15,499 --> 00:30:20,063 can kill Kim Jong-nam but it did not kill Siti Aisyah and Doan. 438 00:30:20,397 --> 00:30:23,897 He explained that because the palm, number one, is thick, 439 00:30:24,032 --> 00:30:25,303 the skin is thick. 440 00:30:25,557 --> 00:30:27,475 Number two, it has a lot of fats. 441 00:30:27,571 --> 00:30:30,637 So it was very difficult for the VX liquid 442 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:34,039 to penetrate through the skin into the bloodstream. 443 00:30:34,282 --> 00:30:37,559 Unlike when VX is applied onto the eyes. 444 00:30:38,349 --> 00:30:41,283 The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, 445 00:30:41,422 --> 00:30:45,830 which represents 192 nations, issued a statement saying, 446 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,245 "Any use of chemical weapons is deeply disturbing." 447 00:30:50,275 --> 00:30:53,751 While North Korea has not acknowledged it has chemical weapons, 448 00:30:53,776 --> 00:30:57,163 South Korea estimates the regime has a stockpile 449 00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:59,989 of up to 5,000 metric tons. 450 00:31:01,697 --> 00:31:05,917 Now, if somebody brings a chemical weapon into your country, 451 00:31:06,978 --> 00:31:09,672 to me that tantamounts to a declaration of war. 452 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,052 And VX, 453 00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,831 who can have possession of VX? 454 00:31:16,044 --> 00:31:17,397 No ordinary people. 455 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:21,936 GOOI: I refer to the things that were 456 00:31:22,454 --> 00:31:25,914 GOOI: seized or obtained from the North Korean scientist by the name of 457 00:31:26,372 --> 00:31:28,094 GOOI: Ri Jong Chol. 458 00:31:28,249 --> 00:31:30,403 GOOI: Were you taken to his house? 459 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,989 DR. RAJA: No, my lord. 460 00:31:35,118 --> 00:31:37,621 GOOI: You therefore have no knowledge whether 461 00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:40,878 GOOI: his house was in fact a clandestine lab? 462 00:31:41,498 --> 00:31:43,158 DR. RAJA: No, my lord. 463 00:31:48,717 --> 00:31:52,386 The investigation is very shallow, I would say. 464 00:31:55,302 --> 00:31:57,206 Ri Jong Choi is a chemist. 465 00:31:57,207 --> 00:32:01,544 The police did not even investigate whether the VX actually came from him. 466 00:32:02,826 --> 00:32:05,161 Both the girls, they never washed their clothes. 467 00:32:05,186 --> 00:32:06,912 They never disposed of their clothes. 468 00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:10,815 If they knew VX was so poisonous, if they actually knew it was VX, 469 00:32:11,281 --> 00:32:13,841 would they take the chance of exposing themselves 470 00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:15,895 to such a dangerous poison? 471 00:32:23,301 --> 00:32:24,568 Okay. 472 00:32:28,545 --> 00:32:30,365 When Siti was arrested, 473 00:32:31,935 --> 00:32:34,386 we went to visit her in prison. 474 00:32:37,102 --> 00:32:39,995 My first impression of, uh... 475 00:32:41,314 --> 00:32:43,730 her whole demeanor, whole conduct. 476 00:32:44,055 --> 00:32:46,367 She doesn't know anything. 477 00:32:47,948 --> 00:32:51,302 That is when we found out Siti's story. 478 00:32:59,942 --> 00:33:01,484 SITI: When I was arrested, 479 00:33:02,269 --> 00:33:05,415 SITI: I was with my roommate in my room. 480 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,214 SITI: My room was not locked. It never was. 481 00:33:10,866 --> 00:33:14,234 SITI: Then the police pushed the door open. 482 00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:20,537 SITI: The police asked, "Where were you on the 13th?" 483 00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,003 SITI: "At the airport," I said. 484 00:33:27,001 --> 00:33:28,848 SITI: "With whom?" 485 00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:31,884 SITI: "With Mr. Chang, my boss," I said. 486 00:33:32,565 --> 00:33:34,316 SITI: "Can you call him?" 487 00:33:35,358 --> 00:33:40,925 SITI: So I called Mr. Chang, but the number wasn't active. 488 00:33:43,071 --> 00:33:46,731 SITI: The police asked, "Who are you? Are you a spy?" 489 00:33:48,002 --> 00:33:53,823 SITI: "What did you do that caused that man in the airport to die?" 490 00:33:55,380 --> 00:34:00,220 SITI: I was confused. I didn't understand what they meant. 491 00:34:00,546 --> 00:34:05,800 SITI: "You are involved in the premeditated murder of the Korean president's brother." 492 00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:11,139 SITI: I was shocked. "You're kidding." 493 00:34:11,854 --> 00:34:14,805 SITI: "I was doing a video shoot." 494 00:34:16,944 --> 00:34:21,277 SITI: "Is this part of the video prank?" 495 00:34:24,672 --> 00:34:26,021 Siti, 496 00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:29,452 she in fact thought that she was part of a prank show. 497 00:34:30,481 --> 00:34:32,743 And we had to persuade her, 498 00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:34,368 to tell her, "Look, 499 00:34:34,609 --> 00:34:36,515 someone really died. 500 00:34:36,951 --> 00:34:38,725 This is not a prank show. 501 00:34:39,105 --> 00:34:42,518 And now you are being charged for murder." 502 00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:48,304 As criminal lawyers, we have our reservations. 503 00:34:49,646 --> 00:34:51,483 We have to be very objective. 504 00:34:51,568 --> 00:34:54,196 Okay, not to believe 100%. 505 00:34:55,154 --> 00:34:57,947 The issue is whether they know what they were doing. 506 00:34:59,072 --> 00:35:03,786 And could they have been duped to believe that they are acting in a prank show? 507 00:35:15,168 --> 00:35:16,928 HISYAM TEH POH TEIK: 508 00:35:15,169 --> 00:35:18,976 When Doan grew up, she went to Hanoi to get her education. 509 00:35:20,543 --> 00:35:24,310 Although she studied accountancy in a private university, 510 00:35:25,454 --> 00:35:28,289 after that she couldn't get a job as an accountant. 511 00:35:33,452 --> 00:35:36,899 She ended up working as a waitress in a pub. 512 00:35:38,127 --> 00:35:42,005 And during this time, she was doing modeling. 513 00:35:42,747 --> 00:35:45,314 And she even took part in Vietnam Idol. 514 00:35:48,297 --> 00:35:49,505 Okay. 515 00:35:50,088 --> 00:35:51,331 Okay. 516 00:35:51,646 --> 00:35:53,772 Her aspiration is to be an actress. 517 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:55,993 She wants to be famous. 518 00:35:58,027 --> 00:35:59,945 Even in her statement to the police, 519 00:36:00,102 --> 00:36:03,020 she described her occupation as an actress. 520 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200 Do you need an interpreter to translate from English to Vietnamese? 521 00:36:16,928 --> 00:36:20,768 DOAN: No, because I can try speak and understand English. 522 00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:26,174 DOAN: I work as waitress for three years. 523 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,554 I have a colleague named Thuy. 524 00:36:34,662 --> 00:36:37,769 DOAN: In early December 2016, 525 00:36:38,204 --> 00:36:40,402 DOAN: she called my cellphone. 526 00:36:41,736 --> 00:36:42,986 DOAN: She said, 527 00:36:43,978 --> 00:36:49,331 DOAN: "Do you want working for company about short movie or funny video? 528 00:36:51,227 --> 00:36:53,531 DOAN: Come to shop Hay Bar. 529 00:36:53,757 --> 00:36:55,299 DOAN: We are waiting here." 530 00:36:57,701 --> 00:36:59,150 DOAN: I come alone and 531 00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:03,971 DOAN: I saw Thuy and a guy sitting near the counter bar. 532 00:37:05,497 --> 00:37:07,964 DOAN: I asked him, "What's your name?" 533 00:37:08,234 --> 00:37:11,064 DOAN: And he answered me in Vietnamese language. 534 00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:13,897 DOAN: "Call me Mr. Y." 535 00:37:16,082 --> 00:37:18,822 DOAN: He explained about the funny video. 536 00:37:21,087 --> 00:37:25,227 DOAN: He asked me how much I want for a month. 537 00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:31,714 DOAN: I feel shy but I say, "I want US dollar 1000." 538 00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:38,544 DOAN: He tell me his boss can pay for the funny video. 539 00:37:43,334 --> 00:37:46,127 So now we are finding out that both women are claiming 540 00:37:46,243 --> 00:37:48,747 that they have been going around Asia for months 541 00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:51,435 doing prank shows for what they believe to be 542 00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:53,495 a Japanese production company. 543 00:37:54,631 --> 00:37:56,644 And their last prank 544 00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:00,771 would be the murder assassination of Kim Jong-nam. 545 00:38:24,511 --> 00:38:28,584 There's this culture of doing amateur prank videos. 546 00:38:28,801 --> 00:38:32,439 I think it came from people watching shows like "Jackass." ' 547 00:38:39,490 --> 00:38:44,024 And with the access allowed by social media nowadays, people want to do that themselves. 548 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:53,121 So it's not really out of the ordinary for people to do prank videos here in Asia. 549 00:38:54,798 --> 00:38:58,467 And Doan was doing this series of prank shows. 550 00:39:07,804 --> 00:39:11,098 In 2016, Doan took part in two pranks 551 00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:13,017 which were uploaded onto YouTube. 552 00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,395 This is Doan now. 553 00:39:17,696 --> 00:39:19,487 I want to emphasize that this prank 554 00:39:19,512 --> 00:39:22,662 is not connected whatsoever to the North Koreans. 555 00:39:24,304 --> 00:39:27,285 And this is one year before the incident with Kim Jong-nam. 556 00:39:30,973 --> 00:39:32,560 I slap you, yeah? 557 00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:39,251 Is it funny? 558 00:39:40,259 --> 00:39:41,512 It's not uhh... 559 00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:46,287 Yes, it is. 560 00:39:47,894 --> 00:39:50,312 But whether it's funny does not matter. 561 00:39:51,638 --> 00:39:53,704 This is part of the evidence 562 00:39:53,961 --> 00:39:57,424 to show that in fact she was acting in funny video clips 563 00:39:57,943 --> 00:40:00,982 a long time before she met the North Koreans. 564 00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:15,213 Siti is here. 565 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,582 The one wearing sunglasses. 566 00:40:20,858 --> 00:40:25,565 I really want her to come home. 567 00:40:28,869 --> 00:40:31,869 Siti went to school until 6th grade. 568 00:40:34,529 --> 00:40:42,272 And then, in time, she needed to find work. 569 00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:50,984 SITI: When I was young, 570 00:40:51,009 --> 00:40:54,158 SITI: I saw my family was poor. 571 00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:58,294 SITI: I wanted to help my family. 572 00:40:58,638 --> 00:41:00,721 SITI: So I went to Jakarta. 573 00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:12,683 SITI: I found work at a clothing factory. 574 00:41:19,798 --> 00:41:24,469 SITI: And that is when I got married to the owner. 575 00:41:27,429 --> 00:41:31,076 SITI: And then, I had my son when I was 17. 576 00:41:32,805 --> 00:41:34,805 SITI: I liked being a mother, 577 00:41:35,788 --> 00:41:38,918 SITI: but I was young and had to work a lot. 578 00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:41,991 SITI: At the clothing factory, 579 00:41:42,203 --> 00:41:46,471 SITI: people saw me as being that little girl from the village. 580 00:41:48,325 --> 00:41:55,758 SITI: I would work from 7:30 or 8 AM until midnight. 581 00:42:02,812 --> 00:42:07,425 SITI: I didn't have any other work experience so I had no other choice. 582 00:42:12,749 --> 00:42:14,995 SITI: Then in 2012, 583 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:18,142 SITI: my husband and I got a divorce. 584 00:42:20,064 --> 00:42:25,564 SITI: And my son went to live with my ex-husband's father. 585 00:42:29,161 --> 00:42:30,788 SITI: Of course I was sad. 586 00:42:31,325 --> 00:42:36,454 SITI: But my life was just to work and find money to eat. 587 00:42:40,605 --> 00:42:42,385 I think for Siti... 588 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:45,632 life was difficult. She had to survive. 589 00:42:48,089 --> 00:42:50,148 And so in the hope of a better life, 590 00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:52,121 for her and her family, 591 00:42:52,192 --> 00:42:55,335 she came to Kuala Lumpur to look for a better job. 592 00:43:00,776 --> 00:43:03,203 SITI: Kuala Lumpur, in my opinion, 593 00:43:03,946 --> 00:43:06,447 SITI: is progressive compared to Jakarta. 594 00:43:07,566 --> 00:43:12,960 SITI: In Kuala Lumpur I could go out around town. 595 00:43:14,895 --> 00:43:19,829 SITI: I saw lots of fashionable people at the mall. 596 00:43:22,363 --> 00:43:24,322 SITI: From there I learned, 597 00:43:24,872 --> 00:43:28,750 SITI: oh, I can change and be pretty. 598 00:43:31,252 --> 00:43:34,125 SITI: In the beginning, I was happy. 599 00:43:43,134 --> 00:43:45,327 For a young migrant, 600 00:43:46,183 --> 00:43:47,534 women especially, 601 00:43:48,046 --> 00:43:49,441 coming to Malaysia, 602 00:43:50,604 --> 00:43:52,904 it can be a very dangerous world. 603 00:43:56,875 --> 00:43:58,626 Most often they come here 604 00:43:59,283 --> 00:44:01,795 believing in a promise of a secure job, 605 00:44:02,377 --> 00:44:04,169 but when they arrive, 606 00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:08,137 they find themselves in a very different environment, 607 00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,695 the underbelly of Kuala Lumpur. 608 00:44:13,092 --> 00:44:16,739 And some of them being forced into prostitution, 609 00:44:17,173 --> 00:44:18,652 sexual slavery. 610 00:44:20,588 --> 00:44:23,274 And they usually don't have any say about it. 611 00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:42,569 When I first met Siti, 612 00:44:44,888 --> 00:44:47,861 she was a village girl, 613 00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:49,929 still a teenager. 614 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:56,106 She had a job working at a spa. 615 00:44:57,236 --> 00:45:04,451 I knew that she did not like her job as a sex worker. 616 00:45:07,926 --> 00:45:10,939 But she had no other choice. 617 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,059 This was the only kind of work to earn good money. 618 00:45:18,929 --> 00:45:22,116 According to Siti, there was this person 619 00:45:22,513 --> 00:45:25,222 John, this taxi driver, 620 00:45:25,247 --> 00:45:28,133 who introduced her to the North Koreans. 621 00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:35,355 There were, what-- two, three attempts for us to meet John. 622 00:45:35,871 --> 00:45:40,051 But the police, they could not produce him. 623 00:45:40,506 --> 00:45:42,473 They said he was uncontactable. 624 00:45:57,918 --> 00:46:00,044 I will start from the beginning, okay? 625 00:46:00,503 --> 00:46:04,173 One night, this guy approached me in front of the mall entrance. 626 00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:08,394 He said he wanted to go to Kuala Lumpur City Centre. 627 00:46:13,764 --> 00:46:15,244 He said his name was James, 628 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,251 and he was from Japan. 629 00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:23,826 He was looking for girls to act in a prank video. 630 00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:29,084 He told me, "If you find any girls, then give me a call." 631 00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:36,722 Around 3 o'clock in the morning, the club closes. 632 00:46:36,999 --> 00:46:40,396 The girls there will come outside and look for customers. 633 00:46:42,354 --> 00:46:46,816 That night, I saw Siti there by herself. 634 00:46:48,816 --> 00:46:52,849 SITI: John asked, "Do you want to do a video shoot? 635 00:46:54,023 --> 00:46:56,608 SITI: A guy from Japan 636 00:46:57,197 --> 00:47:01,249 SITI: is looking for an actress for a video shoot." 637 00:47:03,531 --> 00:47:07,220 I had asked many girls there if they'd be interested, 638 00:47:08,007 --> 00:47:11,048 but Siti was the only person who agreed. 639 00:47:37,933 --> 00:47:39,900 The entire text messages, we went through. 640 00:47:40,594 --> 00:47:41,860 Hundreds of pages. 641 00:47:42,353 --> 00:47:43,640 Thousands. 642 00:47:43,692 --> 00:47:45,235 Thousands of pages. 643 00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,364 Nothing to indicate that 644 00:47:48,794 --> 00:47:52,755 she had anything sinister or that she was involved in the assassination. 645 00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:15,115 SITI: After getting to Pavilion, 646 00:48:15,693 --> 00:48:21,171 SITI: John introduced me to the boss from Japan, James. 647 00:48:23,583 --> 00:48:28,437 SITI: James put baby lotion on my hands. 648 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:32,756 SITI: I was instructed to hold someone's hand, 649 00:48:32,992 --> 00:48:36,189 SITI: look at their face, then say sorry. 650 00:48:38,937 --> 00:48:42,518 SITI: I didn't think the prank videos were that funny. 651 00:48:43,017 --> 00:48:45,898 SITI: But he convinced me that every Japanese prank show 652 00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:49,076 SITI: has its own style. 653 00:48:51,622 --> 00:48:55,088 SITI: Then he paid me 400 ringgits (96 USD), 654 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,819 SITI: I thought, "That's easy money for doing such a simple thing." 655 00:49:01,611 --> 00:49:05,489 SITI: And I could send it home to my parents. 656 00:49:07,930 --> 00:49:09,497 1-6-8, there. 657 00:49:09,781 --> 00:49:12,017 This is a photo of James. 658 00:49:12,432 --> 00:49:17,493 This is John, the taxi driver who introduced her to James. 659 00:49:17,644 --> 00:49:21,080 And this is Siti, at the very first meeting at Pavilion. 660 00:49:21,337 --> 00:49:22,622 This photo-- 661 00:49:22,647 --> 00:49:25,548 Someone who knew John saw him there 662 00:49:25,758 --> 00:49:28,934 and took a photograph and posted it in a group chat. 663 00:49:29,636 --> 00:49:33,688 It is coincidental. Thank God for this photo. 664 00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:38,928 The photograph essentially confirms Siti'’s story. 665 00:49:44,978 --> 00:49:49,903 Today the prosecution is putting the investigating officer to the witness stand, 666 00:49:50,461 --> 00:49:51,712 Wan Azirul. 667 00:49:51,837 --> 00:49:55,465 He is the prosecution's star witness in this case. 668 00:49:56,338 --> 00:50:04,292 PROSECUTOR: You mentioned earlier about the role of the four North Koreans. Can you tell us their role? 669 00:50:04,672 --> 00:50:12,011 WAN AZIRUL: The four suspects were the people who provided both Siti and Doan with ongoing training exercises 670 00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:18,259 WAN AZIRUL: to ensure that their actions on the day of the incident would be successful. 671 00:50:18,452 --> 00:50:20,052 HISYAM: Objection, my lord. 672 00:50:20,476 --> 00:50:22,819 The investigating officer used the word "training." 673 00:50:23,245 --> 00:50:25,222 - Yes. That's right. - We objected. 674 00:50:25,606 --> 00:50:29,009 This is pure interpretation by the investigating officer. 675 00:50:29,499 --> 00:50:34,698 His version is Doan and Siti Aisyah were taking part in training. 676 00:50:35,942 --> 00:50:38,068 And we have in fact strong evidence 677 00:50:39,012 --> 00:50:41,102 to show that she is in fact 678 00:50:41,258 --> 00:50:44,802 being tricked, being duped to do what she did. 679 00:50:52,909 --> 00:50:56,787 DOAN: Mr. Y said meet at big theater Hanoi. 680 00:50:58,015 --> 00:51:02,208 DOAN: He told me how to do action in the video. 681 00:51:03,683 --> 00:51:08,110 DOAN: He said go talk and give surprise kiss 682 00:51:08,197 --> 00:51:11,293 DOAN: on the cheek to anybody he choose. 683 00:51:12,953 --> 00:51:17,414 DOAN: After that, a Korean man - really old - came to us and 684 00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:20,919 DOAN: we went to coffee shop nearby and sitting. 685 00:51:22,871 --> 00:51:25,617 DOAN: Mr. Y said, "This is my boss." 686 00:51:25,896 --> 00:51:28,077 DOAN: I asked the bass his name. 687 00:51:29,148 --> 00:51:32,693 DOAN: Mr. Y told me, "Hanamori means uncle." 688 00:51:33,757 --> 00:51:36,257 DOAN: "So, just sail him Hanamori." 689 00:51:43,762 --> 00:51:47,458 Siti, there was a prank on the 9th of January. 690 00:51:47,883 --> 00:51:49,678 At Mandarin Oriental. 691 00:51:50,279 --> 00:51:52,932 And she made a video of James. 692 00:51:55,903 --> 00:51:57,777 James could not speak proper English. 693 00:51:58,192 --> 00:51:59,750 Listen, listen. 694 00:52:00,252 --> 00:52:01,579 Turn off the camera. 695 00:52:02,103 --> 00:52:03,203 Turn off! 696 00:52:03,378 --> 00:52:05,055 And they were communicating 697 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,038 using Google Translate. 698 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:10,378 So to ensure that the whole thing will go well, 699 00:52:10,403 --> 00:52:12,811 they introduce Mr. Chang. 700 00:52:14,581 --> 00:52:18,250 SITI: Mr. Chang was very good at speaking Indonesian. 701 00:52:19,492 --> 00:52:20,903 SITI: He was different from James. 702 00:52:20,928 --> 00:52:24,764 SITI: Chang was a little... flirtatious. 703 00:52:26,526 --> 00:52:28,933 The prank jobs that they were doing at that time, 704 00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:31,480 we call them "mistaken identity." 705 00:52:32,871 --> 00:52:35,350 They come from behind, close somebody's eyes. 706 00:52:35,636 --> 00:52:38,096 Like, "Guess who I am?" sort of thing. 707 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:41,866 She was paid a few hundred US dollars. 708 00:52:42,176 --> 00:52:45,931 And I think that was a fairly good remuneration for her. 709 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:48,156 Why you filming me? 710 00:52:53,212 --> 00:52:54,485 SITI: They told me, 711 00:52:54,755 --> 00:52:59,759 SITI: "You'll go to Singapore, to America... everywhere. 712 00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:08,067 SITI: You'll become famous as the video prank actress." 713 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,100 Doan did a prank at the Vietnamese airport. 714 00:53:14,674 --> 00:53:16,475 And, in fact, we have the DVD. 715 00:53:17,403 --> 00:53:19,821 That is Doan here in white. 716 00:53:21,949 --> 00:53:25,449 DOAN: Mr. Y gave my hand Johnson baby cream. 717 00:53:27,857 --> 00:53:31,725 DOAN: He said I make surprise same like before. 718 00:53:33,446 --> 00:53:35,366 Okay, watch this gentleman closely. 719 00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:41,239 And on the other side, 720 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,844 there you see? 721 00:53:42,845 --> 00:53:44,199 Doan running, 722 00:53:46,723 --> 00:53:48,763 coming behind the gentleman. 723 00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:54,645 Yep. She did the prank. 724 00:53:55,688 --> 00:53:57,314 And you see a gentleman here 725 00:53:57,596 --> 00:53:59,555 videoing the prank. 726 00:53:59,845 --> 00:54:01,304 There you are: Mr. Y. 727 00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:39,221 A few days later, Doan took a flight. 728 00:54:41,156 --> 00:54:43,182 She came to Kuala Lumpur together with Mr. Y, 729 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,656 and one more prank at the KLIA airport. 730 00:55:13,551 --> 00:55:15,824 Siti had three days of pranks, 731 00:55:16,237 --> 00:55:20,037 all at the arrival of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport. 732 00:55:20,511 --> 00:55:23,702 And then she posted a video of KLIA. 733 00:55:25,444 --> 00:55:28,127 You know, if I was going to assassinate someone, 734 00:55:28,152 --> 00:55:30,917 surely I would not tell them where I got trained. 735 00:55:32,145 --> 00:55:37,372 As young women, they had documented so much of this on social media. 736 00:55:37,758 --> 00:55:40,210 I mean, one of the great things about technology here 737 00:55:40,235 --> 00:55:42,237 is that it did create this trail 738 00:55:42,262 --> 00:55:45,178 which showed the relationships between the women 739 00:55:45,203 --> 00:55:47,422 and their North Korean handlers 740 00:55:47,493 --> 00:55:50,323 that could enable them to put up a defense. 741 00:55:54,752 --> 00:55:59,424 PROSECUTOR: Based on your investigation, do you agree that this was a prank? 742 00:55:59,950 --> 00:56:03,453 WAN AZIRUL: To me, the "prank" that was acted out by both of them 743 00:56:03,478 --> 00:56:08,820 WAN AZIRUL: is something that doesn't make any sense and is illogical. 744 00:56:09,734 --> 00:56:13,277 "The specific act was more of an attack that was specifically targeted 745 00:56:13,302 --> 00:56:16,814 and perpetrated by both defendants on the day of the incident." 746 00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,669 As the investigating officer, 747 00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:25,298 you are supposed to investigate based on the evidence, 748 00:56:25,299 --> 00:56:28,450 you are not supposed to come out with judgement. 749 00:56:29,546 --> 00:56:33,424 It shows he already made up his mind early on that these girls are guilty, 750 00:56:34,224 --> 00:56:38,269 and he and the prosecution are basically 751 00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:40,130 reading from the same book. 752 00:56:42,103 --> 00:56:44,863 Look at the evidence completely and entirely. 753 00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:48,585 These girls have got no motive whatsoever. 754 00:56:49,406 --> 00:56:51,392 But look at the North Koreans. 755 00:56:52,086 --> 00:56:53,992 North Korea has got an interest. 756 00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:04,165 Kim Jong-nam had been living in Macau for more than a decade. 757 00:57:04,817 --> 00:57:07,052 And there are a number of rumors 758 00:57:07,077 --> 00:57:09,510 that this was not the first attempt on his life, 759 00:57:09,790 --> 00:57:14,776 that Kim Jong-un had tried repeatedly to assassinate Kim Jong-nam. 760 00:57:15,361 --> 00:57:17,922 In fact, the South Korean intelligence reported 761 00:57:17,947 --> 00:57:22,755 that Kim Jong-nam had actually written a letter to his brother, saying, you know, 762 00:57:22,915 --> 00:57:24,454 "Please stop trying to kill me," 763 00:57:24,479 --> 00:57:26,722 like, "I am not a threat to you." 764 00:57:27,275 --> 00:57:29,582 You know, "I do not want to be the leader. 765 00:57:31,193 --> 00:57:33,620 "Please let me and my family... 766 00:57:34,333 --> 00:57:36,680 please let us live our lives." 767 00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:43,351 So he was extremely careful and conscious that he was always in danger. 768 00:57:45,206 --> 00:57:47,859 But because he was living in China, 769 00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:51,364 for North Korea to assassinate Kim Jong-nam, 770 00:57:51,419 --> 00:57:55,827 it's very difficult because, you know, North Korea is reliant on China. 771 00:57:56,887 --> 00:58:01,940 They are North Korea's number-one benefactor, patron state. 772 00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:04,439 And from China's point of view, 773 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:08,865 they had given Kim Jong-nam kind of exile protection, 774 00:58:09,232 --> 00:58:11,902 and in some ways were maybe keeping him in reserve, 775 00:58:12,153 --> 00:58:14,811 that if they wanted to replace Kim Jong-un, 776 00:58:14,899 --> 00:58:18,978 they could install Kim Jong-nam as the leader of North Korea. 777 00:58:20,927 --> 00:58:23,927 So there's no way that North Korea could ever 778 00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,556 conduct such an audacious assassination, 779 00:58:26,747 --> 00:58:29,906 or any assassination, on Chinese soil. 780 00:58:30,077 --> 00:58:33,148 So they had to make sure they caught Kim Jong-nam 781 00:58:33,173 --> 00:58:34,994 when he was outside of China. 782 00:58:46,811 --> 00:58:49,563 On February 8th, 2017, 783 00:58:50,717 --> 00:58:53,017 just like days before he was - 784 00:58:53,351 --> 00:58:54,617 before he was killed, 785 00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:58,284 Kim Jong-nam flew to Langkawi, 786 00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:02,288 which is a resort island in the north part of Malaysia. 787 00:59:02,992 --> 00:59:06,173 He checked in at the Westin Hotel. 788 00:59:08,238 --> 00:59:11,418 So, here we have Kim Jong-nam 789 00:59:12,031 --> 00:59:15,479 in the elevator at the Westin Hotel in Langkawi, 790 00:59:15,504 --> 00:59:19,964 with this man, who was later reported to be a CIA agent. 791 00:59:21,458 --> 00:59:23,949 It's never been confirmed that this man was, in fact, 792 00:59:23,974 --> 00:59:25,458 working for the CIA. 793 00:59:26,493 --> 00:59:30,611 But during the course of my reporting, I discovered that Kim Jong-nam 794 00:59:30,636 --> 00:59:35,464 had become a CIA informant after his brother took power. 795 00:59:37,407 --> 00:59:39,408 So he met with this CIA agent, 796 00:59:39,549 --> 00:59:41,607 and they spent two hours together. 797 00:59:43,016 --> 00:59:45,782 And he flew back to Kuala Lumpur, 798 00:59:46,241 --> 00:59:47,976 where he was killed. 799 00:59:51,222 --> 00:59:52,662 After the murder, 800 00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:56,236 Malaysian police went through Kim Jong-nam's laptop. 801 00:59:57,357 --> 00:59:59,274 And they were able to identity that 802 00:59:59,299 --> 01:00:04,017 data was removed from the laptop into a USB drive 803 01:00:04,351 --> 01:00:08,211 on the day where Kim Jong-nam met with the American agent. 804 01:00:09,386 --> 01:00:12,805 In his bag, they found 138,000 US dollars, 805 01:00:13,652 --> 01:00:16,028 which seems to suggest that the money was 806 01:00:16,053 --> 01:00:19,332 payment for the data that was transferred. 807 01:00:20,978 --> 01:00:25,804 The CIA likes to say that North Korea is the blackest of all the black holes. 808 01:00:26,258 --> 01:00:31,231 They have so little information about what's happening inside North Korea. 809 01:00:31,764 --> 01:00:34,461 And Kim Jong-nam, the one thing that he had 810 01:00:34,486 --> 01:00:36,143 that very few other people had 811 01:00:36,208 --> 01:00:40,018 was information about the inner workings of this regime. 812 01:00:41,905 --> 01:00:45,012 And if North Korea had discovered that Kim Jong-nam 813 01:00:45,151 --> 01:00:49,061 was providing information to the American intelligence service, 814 01:00:49,206 --> 01:00:52,081 this alone would be reason for the North Koreans 815 01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:54,453 to try to eliminate him. 816 01:01:02,498 --> 01:01:06,365 DOAN: On February 4th, 2017, 817 01:01:07,265 --> 01:01:11,545 DOAN: me and Mr. Y together go to Kuala Lumpur again. 818 01:01:19,921 --> 01:01:23,549 This video clip shows Doan checking into the hotel. 819 01:01:28,393 --> 01:01:30,479 She had this teddy bear with her. 820 01:01:31,023 --> 01:01:32,203 Huge one. 821 01:01:32,228 --> 01:01:33,979 About the same size as her. 822 01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:37,846 And Mr. Y instructed her 823 01:01:37,944 --> 01:01:40,639 to practice the prank on the teddy bear. 824 01:02:47,347 --> 01:02:48,889 When we started this case, 825 01:02:49,735 --> 01:02:51,743 some of the CCTV footage 826 01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,428 was leaked to a Japanese TV station. 827 01:02:54,675 --> 01:02:56,234 And that went viral. 828 01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:04,350 Whereas, the defense counsel, 829 01:03:05,025 --> 01:03:07,597 we have put in lots of letters to the police 830 01:03:08,428 --> 01:03:11,314 asking for the CCTV footage, 831 01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:13,948 with no reply whatsoever. 832 01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:19,154 Now, we finally received the CCTV footage 833 01:03:20,088 --> 01:03:22,089 some six months after the incident. 834 01:03:25,586 --> 01:03:28,679 This is in KLIA2 airport departure hall. 835 01:03:29,538 --> 01:03:32,231 Mr. O Jong-gil in the white cap 836 01:03:32,256 --> 01:03:35,171 and Hanamori, the guy in the purple shirt. 837 01:03:36,182 --> 01:03:39,302 Hanamori is the mastermind of the operation, but 838 01:03:40,146 --> 01:03:43,379 O Jong-gil, he is also closely involved. 839 01:03:44,625 --> 01:03:48,278 We like to call him the Godfather of the operation. 840 01:03:56,833 --> 01:04:01,166 DOAN: Mr. Y said video on the 13th is very important. 841 01:04:02,495 --> 01:04:07,374 DOAN: So I wear long sleeve white shirt with LOL print 842 01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:13,138 DOAN: and I make hairstyle like wave and makeup beautifully. 843 01:04:13,812 --> 01:04:18,357 DOAN: Mr. Y said company rent new actor and actress 844 01:04:18,438 --> 01:04:23,317 DOAN: to make more effective video and put on YouTube. 845 01:04:28,198 --> 01:04:30,524 Siti Aisyah just arrived and 846 01:04:30,837 --> 01:04:33,297 she is taking a seat across from Mr. Chang. 847 01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:40,167 On the table we can actually see a smartphone mounted on a selfie stick. 848 01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:45,899 SITI: He said, "Today there will be hidden cameras, 849 01:04:45,975 --> 01:04:48,153 SITI: so not just me." 850 01:04:51,738 --> 01:04:53,725 So here you can see Siti 851 01:04:54,925 --> 01:04:56,611 high five Mr. Chang. 852 01:04:59,515 --> 01:05:04,055 Either she is oblivious about what she's about to do, 853 01:05:05,179 --> 01:05:06,715 or she is 854 01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:08,503 so well trained 855 01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:11,240 that the act of killing someone 856 01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:13,677 is just another day for her. 857 01:05:19,165 --> 01:05:23,865 DOAN: Mr. Y said the new actor is a fat man and no hair. 858 01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:29,950 This is Kim Jong-nam. 859 01:05:30,334 --> 01:05:33,123 He is looking at the board to check out his flight to Macau. 860 01:05:33,856 --> 01:05:35,849 If you look very closely, 861 01:05:36,367 --> 01:05:38,222 this over here is Siti. 862 01:05:42,312 --> 01:05:44,532 She is standing next to this column. 863 01:05:46,573 --> 01:05:48,097 She is not alone over there. 864 01:05:48,122 --> 01:05:51,708 She is actually with Mr. Chang, who is hiding behind this column. 865 01:05:52,103 --> 01:05:53,353 And over here, 866 01:05:53,548 --> 01:05:55,549 waiting at the table is Hanamori, 867 01:05:55,577 --> 01:05:56,916 the mastermind. 868 01:05:59,008 --> 01:06:01,288 You can see that when Kim Jong-nam enters, 869 01:06:02,094 --> 01:06:05,827 Hanamori walked toward Mr. Chang and Siti Aisyah, 870 01:06:05,972 --> 01:06:08,807 indicating that Kim Jong-nam is coming. 871 01:06:09,674 --> 01:06:13,469 And as Kim Jong-nam is walking towards the kiosk, 872 01:06:16,222 --> 01:06:19,842 you can see that Siti moves and hid behind this column. 873 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,357 SITI: Suddenly, Mr. Chang said, 874 01:06:27,358 --> 01:06:31,820 SITI: "That's the one, in the gray jacket." 875 01:06:32,941 --> 01:06:35,281 SITI: He gave me the baby oil. 876 01:06:39,362 --> 01:06:41,549 And now we can see Mr. Chang. 877 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,529 He walks past Kim Jong-nam 878 01:06:43,734 --> 01:06:45,777 to watch the attack happen. 879 01:06:50,298 --> 01:06:53,351 DOAN: Mr. Y gave me oil on my hand. 880 01:06:54,378 --> 01:06:56,118 DOAN: He told me, "Don't look." 881 01:06:57,088 --> 01:07:01,515 DOAN: He said, "Just look at the actor and actress." 882 01:07:03,162 --> 01:07:05,095 I saw the new actress 883 01:07:05,567 --> 01:07:08,549 put hands on his face from the back. 884 01:07:12,647 --> 01:07:15,316 DOAN: I ran and do the same surprise. 885 01:07:16,658 --> 01:07:19,080 DOAN: I put my hand on his eyes. 886 01:07:20,455 --> 01:07:22,275 DOAN: I say sorry to him. 887 01:07:22,497 --> 01:07:24,456 DOAN: I running and go. 888 01:07:27,091 --> 01:07:29,885 Looking from this angle you can see Kim Jong-nam. 889 01:07:35,975 --> 01:07:37,308 He stumbled back. 890 01:07:38,017 --> 01:07:43,188 It's very possible for him to actually start to feel the effect of the VX chemical right away. 891 01:07:52,930 --> 01:07:56,890 SITI: He reacted like he was scared. It scared me too. 892 01:07:58,739 --> 01:08:00,879 SITI: So I ran away. 893 01:08:07,216 --> 01:08:09,551 WAN AZIRUL: In this image we see a woman. 894 01:08:10,415 --> 01:08:13,363 WAN AZIRUL: She walks quickly and is seen 895 01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:17,217 WAN AZIRUL: trying to avoid touching her bag. 896 01:08:20,542 --> 01:08:27,222 WAN AZIRUL: She holds her hands as though she doesn't want to touch the two moving rails, 897 01:08:28,038 --> 01:08:31,158 WAN AZIRUL: shaking her hands like it's burning. 898 01:08:34,662 --> 01:08:37,734 This video is important because you can see Siti 899 01:08:38,385 --> 01:08:40,148 rubbing the palm of her hand. 900 01:08:42,036 --> 01:08:45,515 And Wan Azirul's testimony was that Siti 901 01:08:45,661 --> 01:08:47,870 was trying to avoid contact. 902 01:08:48,761 --> 01:08:53,341 If she had known it was VX, you know, the most lethal poison, 903 01:08:53,742 --> 01:08:56,985 she would surely not have rubbed the palm of her hands. 904 01:08:58,633 --> 01:09:02,917 WAN AZIRUL: The CCTV recording clearly shows Doan 905 01:09:02,942 --> 01:09:05,468 WAN AZIRUL: and her hands seemed very uncomfortable. 906 01:09:08,353 --> 01:09:11,933 DOAN: I felt my hand oily and smelly 907 01:09:14,004 --> 01:09:18,917 DOAN: and I don't want it to dirty my LOL white T-shirt. 908 01:09:25,548 --> 01:09:27,257 As Kim Jong-nam was dying, 909 01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:31,008 these North Koreans, 910 01:09:32,046 --> 01:09:34,673 they were subsequently seen in the CCTV 911 01:09:34,698 --> 01:09:37,639 going towards the toilet and change their clothes. 912 01:09:41,322 --> 01:09:45,849 Then they were immediately met by the secretary of the North Korean embassy 913 01:09:46,057 --> 01:09:48,555 and the staff in the Air Koryo, 914 01:09:49,041 --> 01:09:51,208 who facilitated their easy 915 01:09:51,270 --> 01:09:53,605 passage through the immigration. 916 01:09:54,956 --> 01:09:57,175 If you look here at this moment, 917 01:09:59,824 --> 01:10:01,790 you can see them laughing. 918 01:10:03,157 --> 01:10:04,866 This is like within two hours 919 01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:06,617 after they killed Kim Jong-nam. 920 01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:10,589 And then they flew immediately to Jakarta, 921 01:10:10,614 --> 01:10:13,695 the first flight they could take to connect them to Dubai 922 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,976 and to Vladivostok and back to Pyongyang, North Korea. 923 01:10:20,461 --> 01:10:22,628 The four North Koreans have escaped. 924 01:10:23,868 --> 01:10:25,394 Ri Jong Choi, 925 01:10:25,571 --> 01:10:27,739 the staff of the North Korean Embassy, 926 01:10:27,807 --> 01:10:29,933 and the staff in the Air Koryo, 927 01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:32,394 all were allowed to go back to North Korea. 928 01:10:33,322 --> 01:10:34,530 And James, 929 01:10:34,651 --> 01:10:36,795 nobody knows where is James today. 930 01:10:38,994 --> 01:10:41,208 All the North Koreans were untouched. 931 01:10:43,616 --> 01:10:45,376 But somebody has got to be charged, 932 01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:47,492 because somebody is dead. 933 01:10:48,911 --> 01:10:50,287 So the two girls, 934 01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:53,702 they become scapegoats of the prosecution. 935 01:11:01,628 --> 01:11:03,422 WAN SHAHARUDDIN WAN LADIN: 936 01:11:01,632 --> 01:11:03,672 We have presented our case, 937 01:11:04,051 --> 01:11:07,846 so now it is for them to explain their conduct. 938 01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:11,876 The two lawyers mentioned that this whole plot is a political conspiracy, 939 01:11:11,901 --> 01:11:14,561 that North Korea wants to murder... it's not these two women. 940 01:11:14,562 --> 01:11:16,313 I don't care. 941 01:11:16,839 --> 01:11:19,026 There is no evidence of political plot. 942 01:11:19,332 --> 01:11:22,084 The four North Koreans who ran away 943 01:11:22,109 --> 01:11:24,485 didn't apply the VX to the victim. 944 01:11:24,864 --> 01:11:27,115 It's not important for us to prove. 945 01:11:31,024 --> 01:11:34,831 For me, sitting through the prosecution's stage of the trial, 946 01:11:35,832 --> 01:11:38,138 it is pretty clear that 947 01:11:38,225 --> 01:11:40,332 the prosecution, and by extension, the government, 948 01:11:40,690 --> 01:11:42,918 want to convict these two women. 949 01:11:45,103 --> 01:11:48,564 In the international stage it would look very bad for Malaysia to have 950 01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:51,262 somebody of a high profile as 951 01:11:51,402 --> 01:11:54,299 Kim Jong-nam to be murdered in broad daylight 952 01:11:54,324 --> 01:11:57,285 at its biggest international airport. 953 01:11:58,791 --> 01:12:00,644 It's a big shame for the country. 954 01:12:01,422 --> 01:12:05,217 So in a typical mentality of saving face, 955 01:12:06,087 --> 01:12:09,215 someone has to take the blame, to take the fall for it. 956 01:12:10,428 --> 01:12:13,881 Just from a judicial point of view, yes, these women were caught on camera 957 01:12:13,906 --> 01:12:15,563 carrying out this act. 958 01:12:15,588 --> 01:12:20,966 They were very clearly the ones who had assassinated, technically, 959 01:12:21,034 --> 01:12:22,300 Kim Jong-nam. 960 01:12:22,325 --> 01:12:25,786 So Malaysia did need to act, did need to hold somebody to account, 961 01:12:26,006 --> 01:12:29,561 and the fact is that the masterminds of it were back in North Korea. 962 01:12:38,221 --> 01:12:41,121 So now the assassination of Kim Jong-nam 963 01:12:41,528 --> 01:12:45,059 has been really fundamental to phase one 964 01:12:45,084 --> 01:12:47,725 of Kim Jong-un's leadership 965 01:12:48,276 --> 01:12:51,385 and to the way that he has been able to stay in power. 966 01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:56,230 And once he had taken out all his rivals, 967 01:12:56,633 --> 01:12:58,897 he had proven his strength domestically... 968 01:13:01,271 --> 01:13:02,894 He was ready for phase two. 969 01:13:04,745 --> 01:13:09,578 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. 970 01:13:10,371 --> 01:13:14,524 They will be met with fire and fury 971 01:13:14,933 --> 01:13:17,142 like the world has never seen. 972 01:13:18,154 --> 01:13:20,881 He wanted to get the world's attention. 973 01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:26,757 I think now that he has proven he had a credible nuclear weapons program, 974 01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:29,547 he is now starting this process 975 01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:34,818 of trying to look like a respectable international statesman 976 01:13:34,965 --> 01:13:37,792 and seems very strong and very confident 977 01:13:37,817 --> 01:13:40,500 and very much in control of this regime. 978 01:13:50,172 --> 01:13:51,339 Hello. 979 01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,139 Okay, good. Who is this, please? 980 01:13:56,917 --> 01:13:58,691 Ah, okay, all right, all right, fine. 981 01:14:00,186 --> 01:14:02,538 Now that the prosecution has closed its case, 982 01:14:02,563 --> 01:14:05,393 how do you save your client from execution at this point? 983 01:14:06,553 --> 01:14:08,233 Look at the conduct. 984 01:14:09,077 --> 01:14:10,820 Two days after the incident, 985 01:14:11,503 --> 01:14:13,546 Doan went back to the airport 986 01:14:14,374 --> 01:14:16,584 again to the scene of crime. 987 01:14:18,984 --> 01:14:20,610 Now the question is: 988 01:14:21,465 --> 01:14:25,134 assuming Doan is the assassin, assuming she is the killer, 989 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,013 would she go back to the airport two days later 990 01:14:29,264 --> 01:14:32,224 and be identified? It doesn't makes sense, does it? 991 01:14:34,566 --> 01:14:35,942 This is Doan. 992 01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:39,013 She's coming back to the arrival hall. 993 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,300 You can see, she never cut her hair. 994 01:14:44,839 --> 01:14:47,033 She was wearing the same shoes. 995 01:14:48,025 --> 01:14:49,359 She don't know 996 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,362 that someone called Kim Jong-nam has died, 997 01:14:52,456 --> 01:14:54,082 and police are looking for her. 998 01:14:56,325 --> 01:15:01,451 DOAN: Mr. Y said today make another video at KLIA. 999 01:15:02,464 --> 01:15:05,337 DOAN: So I go there at 8 AM 1000 01:15:05,444 --> 01:15:09,011 DOAN: and call and text him many times. 1001 01:15:12,242 --> 01:15:15,349 DOAN: But he switch off his phone. 1002 01:15:21,341 --> 01:15:23,759 Then, no choice, she wanted to go back to the hotel. 1003 01:15:23,784 --> 01:15:26,481 She called for a taxi. 1004 01:15:46,578 --> 01:15:47,870 The guards came. 1005 01:15:48,869 --> 01:15:51,602 And she was arrested by the authorities. 1006 01:16:02,313 --> 01:16:06,399 The prosecution's case was closed on the 5th of April. 1007 01:16:07,796 --> 01:16:09,843 And meanwhile, the girls are incarcerated. 1008 01:16:10,276 --> 01:16:13,763 They have already been in the jail for one and a half years. 1009 01:16:15,631 --> 01:16:17,711 And that damage is irreparable. 1010 01:16:20,192 --> 01:16:21,943 In our criminal system here, 1011 01:16:22,544 --> 01:16:25,072 once the prosecution presents its case, 1012 01:16:25,706 --> 01:16:29,042 the judge will have to make a decision whether 1013 01:16:29,311 --> 01:16:33,237 a case has been proven against both of the girls. 1014 01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:42,140 The judge could either acquit the girls 1015 01:16:42,733 --> 01:16:44,859 or call for their defense. 1016 01:16:48,793 --> 01:16:51,791 JUDGE: My reading of my finding will take quite some time. 1017 01:16:51,816 --> 01:16:53,479 JUDGE: So please bear with me. 1018 01:16:53,504 --> 01:16:55,770 JUDGE: There is bound to be unhappiness. 1019 01:16:56,855 --> 01:16:58,481 It took two and a half hours 1020 01:16:59,448 --> 01:17:01,199 for the judgement to be delivered. 1021 01:17:02,016 --> 01:17:04,054 It was an eighty-two page judgement. 1022 01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:10,292 JUDGE: The CCTV footage shows both women holding their hands away from themselves. 1023 01:17:10,626 --> 01:17:16,094 JUDGE: To me, the precise timing and the use of the VX as a chemical weapon 1024 01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:21,518 JUDGE: all goes to support that they knew that the liquid placed on their hands were toxic substances. 1025 01:17:23,358 --> 01:17:25,625 I think that was the moment where I... 1026 01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:29,045 on the margins of my notes I wrote that 1027 01:17:29,401 --> 01:17:30,708 they are fucked. 1028 01:17:34,548 --> 01:17:36,728 And I think these girls are going to hang. 1029 01:17:37,789 --> 01:17:40,309 JUDGE: The sole purpose of prank is fun. 1030 01:17:40,489 --> 01:17:43,529 JUDGE: It is evident that none of the features of "prank" 1031 01:17:43,554 --> 01:17:47,332 JUDGE: can be seen or found to exist in the CCTV footage. 1032 01:17:48,107 --> 01:17:50,774 JUDGE: I find that the contention that they were merely duped 1033 01:17:50,799 --> 01:17:54,720 JUDGE: into carrying out the act could not possibly hold water. 1034 01:17:55,284 --> 01:17:59,380 JUDGE: I am of the firm view that the accused persons 1035 01:17:59,884 --> 01:18:04,794 JUDGE: were the perpetrators leading to the death of Kim Chol, 1036 01:18:04,862 --> 01:18:07,654 JUDGE: and I must therefore call upon them 1037 01:18:07,775 --> 01:18:11,034 JUDGE: to enter their defense on their respective charges. 1038 01:18:12,386 --> 01:18:13,954 How is your client feeling? 1039 01:18:14,741 --> 01:18:17,721 She is obviously disappointed with the ruling made by his Lordship. 1040 01:18:18,041 --> 01:18:20,612 Will you still try your defense of the prank, given that-- 1041 01:18:20,613 --> 01:18:23,131 Oh, yes. That has been our 1042 01:18:23,728 --> 01:18:26,597 defense consistently from day one until now. 1043 01:18:26,658 --> 01:18:29,064 And we will pursue it until the end of the defense's case. 1044 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:31,849 But the judge said it's not a prank because nobody laughed? 1045 01:18:31,874 --> 01:18:34,190 That is his finding at this point of time. 1046 01:18:34,460 --> 01:18:36,183 He has not heard Doan. 1047 01:18:47,861 --> 01:18:49,594 At this point of time, 1048 01:18:49,818 --> 01:18:53,822 Siti and Doan have been in jail almost two years. 1049 01:18:55,478 --> 01:19:00,644 I think the girls, um, really have no one apart from each other. 1050 01:19:01,825 --> 01:19:05,385 Because they are kept separately from all other inmates. 1051 01:19:06,053 --> 01:19:09,085 Even then they are separated from one another. 1052 01:19:12,121 --> 01:19:16,833 SITI: With Doan, when we first entered the prison, 1053 01:19:17,014 --> 01:19:20,376 SITI: she was asked by the Malaysian police 1054 01:19:20,702 --> 01:19:23,174 SITI: which part of Vietnam she was from, 1055 01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:25,383 SITI: and she said, "Hanoi." 1056 01:19:26,812 --> 01:19:29,645 SITI: I didn't know her name, 1057 01:19:29,918 --> 01:19:33,645 SITI: so I called her "Noi" from Hanoi. 1058 01:19:36,855 --> 01:19:41,728 DOAN: We have separate cells so we cannot see each other. 1059 01:19:44,161 --> 01:19:47,841 DOAN: We must talk louder to hear. 1060 01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,829 SITI: Sometimes when I was about to eat, I would say, 1061 01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:54,480 SITI: "Hanoi, let's eat." 1062 01:19:54,623 --> 01:19:55,790 SITI: And she would say the same thing, 1063 01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:57,667 SITI: "Okay, let's eat, Aisyah." 1064 01:19:58,357 --> 01:20:02,070 SITI: After about a year in prison, 1065 01:20:02,994 --> 01:20:08,674 SITI: I started to joke around more with Noi, 1066 01:20:08,953 --> 01:20:10,786 SITI: and chit-chat. 1067 01:20:11,226 --> 01:20:14,006 SITI: That was when we started to be close friends. 1068 01:20:16,855 --> 01:20:20,175 DOAN: Siti is very funny. 1069 01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:22,142 DOAN: Also very... 1070 01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:23,796 DOAN: good heart. 1071 01:20:24,785 --> 01:20:25,832 DOAN: Only... 1072 01:20:25,857 --> 01:20:27,900 DOAN: me understand her and 1073 01:20:28,641 --> 01:20:30,297 DOAN: her understand me. 1074 01:20:32,196 --> 01:20:33,590 DOAN: We become 1075 01:20:34,143 --> 01:20:37,884 DOAN: like sisters, become best friends. 1076 01:20:39,057 --> 01:20:41,304 DOAN: When we together, 1077 01:20:42,379 --> 01:20:45,077 DOAN: I can feel her heart. 1078 01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:52,297 DOAN: That's why she can believe me and I can believe her. 1079 01:21:07,905 --> 01:21:10,138 In preparation for the defense of Doan, 1080 01:21:10,657 --> 01:21:13,125 we spent about total fourteen hours with her. 1081 01:21:14,407 --> 01:21:17,480 To go through her statement, discuss the evidence with her. 1082 01:21:18,593 --> 01:21:21,299 PRAYER ROOM 1083 01:21:26,864 --> 01:21:28,998 Doan is a bit anxious, obviously. 1084 01:21:29,833 --> 01:21:30,958 A bit tense, 1085 01:21:30,983 --> 01:21:34,126 because today she is taking the stand for the first time in her entire life. 1086 01:21:37,152 --> 01:21:41,512 She is aware that her case will be watched by people throughout the world. 1087 01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:46,986 There will definitely be pressure on her. 1088 01:21:52,552 --> 01:21:54,032 But I think she... 1089 01:21:54,613 --> 01:21:55,879 she's prepared. 1090 01:22:03,729 --> 01:22:06,549 On Saturday, before the trial started, 1091 01:22:06,681 --> 01:22:08,816 my friend texted Gooi. 1092 01:22:09,414 --> 01:22:11,290 And Gooi sent this 1093 01:22:11,735 --> 01:22:13,361 rather vague 1094 01:22:13,780 --> 01:22:15,169 text back to her 1095 01:22:15,194 --> 01:22:18,516 saying, "Bring all your team down on Monday. 1096 01:22:18,804 --> 01:22:20,627 There is going to be big news." 1097 01:22:21,501 --> 01:22:22,813 Azura. 1098 01:22:24,062 --> 01:22:25,201 Azura. 1099 01:22:26,241 --> 01:22:28,122 So I met with Selvi, 1100 01:22:29,708 --> 01:22:32,369 throwing some guesses at her. 1101 01:22:33,156 --> 01:22:35,008 You guys found one of the North Koreans? 1102 01:22:35,033 --> 01:22:36,989 You guys are going to bring James here? 1103 01:22:37,085 --> 01:22:38,256 And she was like, 1104 01:22:39,194 --> 01:22:41,570 "I don't know. You just wait. You just wait." 1105 01:22:44,502 --> 01:22:46,909 The lead prosecutor Mohammad Iskandar Ahmad 1106 01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:49,576 got up, looked at the judge, and he said, 1107 01:22:50,461 --> 01:22:54,068 PROSECUTOR: There's something that I would like to address today, my Lord. 1108 01:22:55,547 --> 01:22:58,713 PROSECUTOR: I am requesting... 1109 01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:02,810 PROSECUTOR: Your honor, I... 1110 01:23:04,029 --> 01:23:07,469 PROSECUTOR: I request to withdraw 1111 01:23:07,494 --> 01:23:10,078 PROSECUTOR: the charge against Siti Aisyah. 1112 01:23:13,004 --> 01:23:14,791 I literally was like, 1113 01:23:15,624 --> 01:23:16,724 "What?!" 1114 01:23:17,827 --> 01:23:20,694 The judge clearly looked surprised 1115 01:23:20,943 --> 01:23:22,641 that this happened, 1116 01:23:23,436 --> 01:23:24,830 but then he said, 1117 01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:28,392 JUDGE: The court has determined that Siti Aisyah, 1118 01:23:28,420 --> 01:23:31,172 JUDGE: the first defendant, is hereby released. 1119 01:23:32,799 --> 01:23:34,092 JUDGE: All right? 1120 01:23:34,117 --> 01:23:35,465 JUDGE: You can go. 1121 01:23:37,596 --> 01:23:40,348 I think Siti was trying to process what was going on. 1122 01:23:40,861 --> 01:23:44,274 So she got up and grabbed Doan and hugged her. 1123 01:23:45,103 --> 01:23:46,580 And then she left the courtroom. 1124 01:23:56,918 --> 01:23:58,961 How are you feeling? 1125 01:23:58,986 --> 01:24:00,862 I feel... 1126 01:24:03,694 --> 01:24:06,075 I feel like I'm... 1127 01:24:07,394 --> 01:24:08,793 Did they tell you before? 1128 01:24:08,794 --> 01:24:11,003 - No, I didn't know. - You just found out now? 1129 01:24:11,004 --> 01:24:12,004 Uh-huh. 1130 01:24:12,005 --> 01:24:13,506 I feel... 1131 01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:14,867 pretty surprised. 1132 01:24:41,775 --> 01:24:43,136 Who was that? Aisyah?! 1133 01:24:43,161 --> 01:24:44,161 Oh my God! 1134 01:24:44,162 --> 01:24:45,413 What the hell just happened? 1135 01:24:45,414 --> 01:24:49,083 Yeah, she was released without... 1136 01:24:56,124 --> 01:24:57,958 Today, the 1137 01:24:58,635 --> 01:25:00,511 prosecution informed the court that 1138 01:25:00,992 --> 01:25:04,145 they declined to further prosecute the case against Siti Aisyah. 1139 01:25:04,770 --> 01:25:07,335 So Siti Aisyah has been discharged from the court today. 1140 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,278 The decision is... 1141 01:25:09,303 --> 01:25:13,074 The decision is the decision of the attorney general, the public prosecutor to 1142 01:25:13,652 --> 01:25:16,028 decline to further prosecute. No reasons were given. 1143 01:25:16,069 --> 01:25:17,653 What will happen next? 1144 01:25:19,136 --> 01:25:22,282 Next is that she is a free person and 1145 01:25:22,603 --> 01:25:24,122 she will be going back to Jakarta. 1146 01:25:24,367 --> 01:25:26,201 What's going to happen to Doan? 1147 01:25:26,841 --> 01:25:27,901 Doan's case? 1148 01:25:27,926 --> 01:25:31,917 I believe since they did not indicate anything, the case must continue. 1149 01:25:34,882 --> 01:25:37,816 HISYAM: My lord, the accused person will give evidence under oath. 1150 01:25:37,841 --> 01:25:39,759 HISYAM: We have prepared a written statement. 1151 01:25:40,573 --> 01:25:44,847 DOAN: I, Doan Thi Huong, solemnly swear 1152 01:25:44,871 --> 01:25:46,871 DOAN: and promise the court... 1153 01:25:47,893 --> 01:25:51,393 Doan was pretty traumatized with the whole experience. 1154 01:25:52,731 --> 01:25:54,023 She just saw 1155 01:25:54,024 --> 01:25:56,891 the girl who was with her the whole time 1156 01:25:57,319 --> 01:25:58,597 being let go. 1157 01:26:00,758 --> 01:26:03,325 And she just broke down and cried. 1158 01:26:05,502 --> 01:26:07,669 HISYAM: We'd like to make a representation, my lord. 1159 01:26:08,419 --> 01:26:11,838 Her lawyers asked the Judge for court to be adjourned. 1160 01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,181 Ladies and gentlemen, 1161 01:26:19,466 --> 01:26:21,842 the charge against Siti Aisyah was withdrawn, 1162 01:26:21,843 --> 01:26:23,881 whereas, as far as Doan is concerned, 1163 01:26:24,262 --> 01:26:26,268 the charge still remains the same. 1164 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,235 Doan is obviously traumatized 1165 01:26:29,643 --> 01:26:32,019 that there's no fairness shown to her. 1166 01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:35,436 She's entitled to the same kind of considerations 1167 01:26:35,776 --> 01:26:39,429 that the public prosecutor decides to withdraw the charge against Siti Aisyah. 1168 01:26:39,535 --> 01:26:41,421 Bearing in mind the court has found as a fact 1169 01:26:41,446 --> 01:26:43,739 there's a case against both of them to answer. 1170 01:26:48,386 --> 01:26:50,095 To me, it's a mixed feeling. 1171 01:26:50,999 --> 01:26:53,826 We are happy for Siti Aisyah and yet we are 1172 01:26:53,930 --> 01:26:55,389 sad for Doan. 1173 01:26:57,029 --> 01:26:59,503 The girls drew strength from one another. 1174 01:27:00,710 --> 01:27:03,090 To me it would be very hard for Doan 1175 01:27:03,779 --> 01:27:05,410 to go through the trial 1176 01:27:06,279 --> 01:27:08,199 alone. 1177 01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:11,304 - Come, come. - Azura, come. 1178 01:27:11,329 --> 01:27:12,606 One for my team. 1179 01:27:17,448 --> 01:27:20,335 In my heart I know Doan's innocent as well. 1180 01:27:22,335 --> 01:27:25,762 I've been a criminal lawyer for the last 40 years. 1181 01:27:28,633 --> 01:27:30,333 Until today, I... 1182 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,666 if you ask me what justice is, I still... 1183 01:27:37,210 --> 01:27:39,462 I find it very difficult to answer that question. 1184 01:27:45,131 --> 01:27:48,724 At first, it does appear to be coming out of nowhere because nobody was expecting it. 1185 01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:52,243 But later on we found out that 1186 01:27:52,495 --> 01:27:54,103 Siti's discharge is 1187 01:27:54,730 --> 01:27:57,315 based on the fact that the Indonesian government has been 1188 01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:59,743 putting constant pressure against the Malaysian government. 1189 01:28:00,108 --> 01:28:04,874 There have been backchannel discussions at a very high level 1190 01:28:04,899 --> 01:28:07,192 for the release of Siti Aisyah. 1191 01:28:08,432 --> 01:28:11,545 President Joko Widodo discussed the issue of Siti Aisyah 1192 01:28:11,782 --> 01:28:16,475 with the Malaysian Prime Minister at Bogor Palace in June 2018. 1193 01:28:18,284 --> 01:28:22,924 It makes sense what Indonesia is doing to save their citizen Siti Aisyah. 1194 01:28:24,287 --> 01:28:27,694 But the same cannot be said for the Vietnamese government, 1195 01:28:28,316 --> 01:28:31,363 who is not doing as much to defend Doan. 1196 01:28:32,535 --> 01:28:36,320 Vietnam and North Korea continue to have very close relations. 1197 01:28:36,351 --> 01:28:38,569 They're both communist countries. 1198 01:28:39,654 --> 01:28:44,794 And there's a lot of North Korean activity inside Vietnam. 1199 01:28:45,263 --> 01:28:48,439 So I think Vietnam's incentive to speak out 1200 01:28:48,464 --> 01:28:52,188 and to risk angering North Korea for the sake of this one woman, 1201 01:28:52,213 --> 01:28:55,882 I think, was very different from the situation that Indonesia faced, 1202 01:28:55,907 --> 01:29:01,008 whereas Indonesia doesn't have those same strong relations with North Korea. 1203 01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:05,751 If previously the thought of 1204 01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:07,403 both of them going 1205 01:29:07,428 --> 01:29:08,573 to be hanged 1206 01:29:08,733 --> 01:29:10,427 for this murder 1207 01:29:10,985 --> 01:29:13,647 felt really unfair, 1208 01:29:15,638 --> 01:29:18,045 I feel it would be even worse 1209 01:29:18,682 --> 01:29:22,638 if Doan were going to be hanged, 1210 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,429 - Bye! - Bye! 1211 01:29:25,710 --> 01:29:27,857 while Siti Aisyah goes back home. 1212 01:29:45,672 --> 01:29:47,385 We're just so happy. 1213 01:29:49,639 --> 01:29:51,826 Just so glad. 1214 01:29:54,075 --> 01:29:55,928 Praise be to Allah. 1215 01:30:05,251 --> 01:30:08,211 Certainly, I am so happy to be home, 1216 01:30:08,236 --> 01:30:12,364 and be with my family and friends. 1217 01:30:15,193 --> 01:30:16,985 But I am definitely still sad. 1218 01:30:20,663 --> 01:30:22,414 It's as if 1219 01:30:23,543 --> 01:30:25,885 those North Koreans saw me 1220 01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:29,366 as if my life has no value whatsoever. 1221 01:30:30,839 --> 01:30:34,519 Like I am a nobody, a nothing. 1222 01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:46,148 Doan and I grew very close 1223 01:30:46,347 --> 01:30:50,141 over the course of the trial. 1224 01:30:51,696 --> 01:30:54,239 I always gave my support to her, 1225 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,742 and she always gave her support to me. 1226 01:30:56,816 --> 01:30:58,389 When I cried... 1227 01:30:58,753 --> 01:31:00,466 when I cried, 1228 01:31:00,914 --> 01:31:03,540 she would always console me. 1229 01:31:06,652 --> 01:31:08,366 And when she cried, 1230 01:31:09,201 --> 01:31:10,992 I would do the same for her. 1231 01:31:14,321 --> 01:31:18,155 I think of her as my own sister. 1232 01:31:25,311 --> 01:31:29,431 I pray she will not get the death penalty. 1233 01:31:45,975 --> 01:31:48,548 Doan has been very depressed. Confused. 1234 01:31:50,166 --> 01:31:53,085 We saw her at the prison about two or three times. 1235 01:31:54,779 --> 01:31:58,446 And two or three times she told me that she would not testify. 1236 01:32:01,121 --> 01:32:02,942 You see, the court has made a ruling. 1237 01:32:03,277 --> 01:32:05,570 The judge has called for the defense. 1238 01:32:06,913 --> 01:32:09,748 And the law says, if, after such ruling, 1239 01:32:10,136 --> 01:32:11,980 Doan decides not to testify, 1240 01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:14,755 she will be convicted and sentenced to death: 1241 01:32:14,779 --> 01:32:16,507 There's no other option whatsoever. 1242 01:32:27,068 --> 01:32:28,876 So, upon arriving here this morning, 1243 01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:30,388 one thing I noticed is 1244 01:32:30,867 --> 01:32:33,756 the presence of Vietnamese officials from the embassy, 1245 01:32:33,797 --> 01:32:36,173 including the Vietnamese Ambassador to Malaysia. 1246 01:32:38,904 --> 01:32:40,914 Which, in a way, is 1247 01:32:41,114 --> 01:32:43,307 a ray of hope, I suppose for Doan. 1248 01:32:43,308 --> 01:32:45,267 But, at the same time, 1249 01:32:45,268 --> 01:32:46,977 it is still 1250 01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:49,884 pretty much not clear what is going to happen to her. 1251 01:32:51,961 --> 01:32:53,648 The charges against her still stand 1252 01:32:53,889 --> 01:32:58,294 and her defense lawyers have tried to get the Attorney General to change his mind. 1253 01:32:59,113 --> 01:33:01,840 So, today we will find out whether 1254 01:33:02,233 --> 01:33:03,740 that would happen or not. 1255 01:33:17,653 --> 01:33:21,213 QUIET PLEASE. COURT IS IN SESSION. 1256 01:33:49,517 --> 01:33:51,083 How do you feel, Doan? 1257 01:33:51,167 --> 01:33:52,697 Thank you so much. 1258 01:33:56,998 --> 01:33:58,765 - You're happy? - I'm happy. 1259 01:34:03,463 --> 01:34:04,844 Doan! 1260 01:34:12,219 --> 01:34:15,014 We feel very lucky and happy. 1261 01:34:15,081 --> 01:34:18,662 The family is very, very lucky today and very happy. 1262 01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:20,493 Thank you very much. 1263 01:34:21,932 --> 01:34:24,352 So instead of facing a murder charge, 1264 01:34:24,899 --> 01:34:27,744 she is being offered to 1265 01:34:28,209 --> 01:34:31,711 plead guilty to a charge of causing harm, 1266 01:34:32,458 --> 01:34:35,919 which is a much lesser offense than murder. 1267 01:34:37,019 --> 01:34:40,586 Would you say it is finally a happy ending for everyone? 1268 01:34:41,509 --> 01:34:44,761 We are happy this morning that it's come to a happy ending, 1269 01:34:44,762 --> 01:34:48,311 that Doan can look forward - there's a date for her that she can go back home. 1270 01:34:48,336 --> 01:34:50,055 And that day is very near. 1271 01:35:03,248 --> 01:35:05,437 One minute, one minute. Take their photo. 1272 01:35:05,462 --> 01:35:06,888 One, two... 1273 01:35:08,270 --> 01:35:11,032 - Okay. Nice. Very good. - Thank you. 1274 01:35:19,515 --> 01:35:21,612 Take off the specs. 1275 01:35:22,184 --> 01:35:27,314 What did you think about the most while you were in custody? 1276 01:35:28,054 --> 01:35:30,057 I thought about my parents, 1277 01:35:30,454 --> 01:35:34,061 I thought about my country and how much I wanted to come home. 1278 01:35:34,086 --> 01:35:36,951 What do you want to do now that you're back? 1279 01:35:37,571 --> 01:35:39,650 I don't know what to do yet, 1280 01:35:39,651 --> 01:35:42,464 but I think I'd like to perform. 1281 01:35:44,072 --> 01:35:46,998 Like an actress. That's what I want. 1282 01:35:50,801 --> 01:35:52,295 Thank you. 1283 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,201 Thank you, see you later. 1284 01:35:56,052 --> 01:35:58,985 Thank you, I'm very happy now. Thank you so much. 1285 01:36:00,324 --> 01:36:01,809 Yeah. Yes. 1286 01:36:06,095 --> 01:36:08,061 It is in a way a bittersweet ending. 1287 01:36:11,599 --> 01:36:13,732 Seeing now that the two women are home. 1288 01:36:15,382 --> 01:36:18,022 Both families have their daughters back safely. 1289 01:36:19,959 --> 01:36:22,269 But I don't think their lives will ever be the same. 1290 01:36:25,646 --> 01:36:29,866 I only learned about Kim Jong-nam and Kim Jong-un 1291 01:36:29,993 --> 01:36:32,661 after coming back to Indonesia. 1292 01:36:34,545 --> 01:36:38,417 I searched and read about my case from the start, 1293 01:36:38,418 --> 01:36:40,085 how everything happened, 1294 01:36:40,238 --> 01:36:42,337 and saw photos of Kim Jong-nam. 1295 01:36:42,338 --> 01:36:44,434 "Oh, this is Kim Jong-nam, Kim Jong-un." 1296 01:36:44,674 --> 01:36:46,368 It's only now... 1297 01:36:46,596 --> 01:36:49,640 only now that I really understand. 1298 01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:58,335 I never imagined 1299 01:36:59,272 --> 01:37:03,598 that I could be involved in his murder. 1300 01:37:07,091 --> 01:37:09,231 I feel really sorry for him. 1301 01:37:10,002 --> 01:37:11,502 Really sorry. 1302 01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:23,726 - Hello, Noi? - Oh yeah, yes? 1303 01:37:24,340 --> 01:37:25,789 What are you doing? 1304 01:37:26,103 --> 01:37:27,716 Okay. I want to - 1305 01:37:27,717 --> 01:37:30,552 I want to see you. I miss you. 1306 01:37:30,553 --> 01:37:31,928 I miss you too. 1307 01:37:38,097 --> 01:37:40,974 When I came back, a lot of difficult, 1308 01:37:41,832 --> 01:37:43,458 a lot of media and 1309 01:37:43,804 --> 01:37:45,567 talking. People talking. 1310 01:37:51,630 --> 01:37:54,784 People don't know me and Siti. 1311 01:37:55,536 --> 01:37:56,636 People... 1312 01:37:59,382 --> 01:38:02,602 just watching on the television. 1313 01:38:03,205 --> 01:38:04,595 People don't know 1314 01:38:05,143 --> 01:38:08,122 how difficult time we have had. 1315 01:38:11,061 --> 01:38:12,801 Before, I think 1316 01:38:13,388 --> 01:38:15,389 the world is pink color. 1317 01:38:16,808 --> 01:38:20,143 The pink world is very beautiful and colorful. Right? 1318 01:38:20,995 --> 01:38:23,348 And all people is good people. 1319 01:38:24,553 --> 01:38:28,848 But now I can see more clear. 1320 01:38:32,845 --> 01:38:35,844 I can see the real world is not pink. 1321 01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:40,110 I will be careful in my life 1322 01:38:40,998 --> 01:38:43,834 to trust people. 1323 01:38:46,791 --> 01:38:48,151 It's the end of 1324 01:38:48,896 --> 01:38:50,814 the journey for these two women. 1325 01:38:52,727 --> 01:38:56,187 But is what happened over the last two years, 1326 01:38:57,088 --> 01:38:58,963 can we say this is justice? 1327 01:38:59,821 --> 01:39:02,160 And is there ever going to be justice for 1328 01:39:02,551 --> 01:39:04,294 the late Kim Jong-nam? 1329 01:39:09,601 --> 01:39:11,990 For all the international condemnation and shock 1330 01:39:12,015 --> 01:39:14,015 that followed this assassination, 1331 01:39:14,681 --> 01:39:18,928 you know, North Korea has got away relatively scot-free from this. 1332 01:39:20,742 --> 01:39:23,201 In many ways, this is the perfect crime. 1333 01:39:24,145 --> 01:39:29,591 The fact that Kim Jong-un was prepared to purge and execute his brother, 1334 01:39:29,858 --> 01:39:32,000 in this most spectacular fashion, 1335 01:39:32,138 --> 01:39:36,215 sent a message to the world that his brutality knows no limits, 1336 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,966 that nobody is safe. 1337 01:39:40,326 --> 01:39:43,506 The North Koreans never suffered any punishment for this. 1338 01:39:43,946 --> 01:39:46,994 North Korea still has an embassy in Malaysia. 1339 01:39:47,019 --> 01:39:50,477 You know, the relations between them have not really suffered 1340 01:39:50,502 --> 01:39:52,067 as a result of this. 1341 01:39:53,260 --> 01:39:54,920 And Kim Jong-un, 1342 01:39:56,029 --> 01:39:58,854 he has been able to come to the outside world. 1343 01:40:00,304 --> 01:40:04,835 And he gets his red carpet welcome on the dais with the flags. 1344 01:40:05,091 --> 01:40:08,385 He gets the photo opportunity to show himself 1345 01:40:08,410 --> 01:40:10,516 as an international statesman. 1346 01:40:12,538 --> 01:40:17,098 And now, all of a sudden, he gets to present himself 1347 01:40:17,518 --> 01:40:21,526 as a peer of the most powerful man in the world. 1348 01:40:22,913 --> 01:40:25,541 I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong-un. 1349 01:40:25,566 --> 01:40:29,099 I can't show you the letter, obviously, but it was a very personal, 1350 01:40:29,124 --> 01:40:30,866 very warm, very nice letter. 1351 01:40:30,891 --> 01:40:35,430 I saw the information about the CIA with respect to his half-brother. 1352 01:40:35,619 --> 01:40:40,337 And I would tell him that would not happen under my... under my auspices. 1353 01:40:41,820 --> 01:40:45,842 So this is the way that Kim Jong-un has defied all the skepticism 1354 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,435 and shown that he is, you know, surprisingly adept 1355 01:40:49,460 --> 01:40:52,426 at being a totalitarian leader. 1356 01:40:54,771 --> 01:40:58,424 And I think these two women were very unwitting pawns 1357 01:40:58,449 --> 01:41:00,131 in this bigger chess game. 1358 01:41:04,427 --> 01:41:06,720 I'm sorry about everything. 1359 01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:09,310 I hope 1360 01:41:09,815 --> 01:41:12,257 people in the world will think 1361 01:41:12,906 --> 01:41:15,353 me and Siti like 1362 01:41:16,696 --> 01:41:18,989 your friends, like 1363 01:41:19,378 --> 01:41:21,529 your daughters, like 1364 01:41:22,168 --> 01:41:23,768 your sisters. 1365 01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:38,109 When I was in Kajang Prison, 1366 01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:43,920 I'd be lying down falling asleep, 1367 01:41:43,995 --> 01:41:47,622 and I would stare out the window. 1368 01:41:49,186 --> 01:41:51,508 It was way high up on the wall. 1369 01:41:58,334 --> 01:42:01,127 I would pray as I gazed at the sky, 1370 01:42:02,633 --> 01:42:06,844 "Oh Allah, will I ever see the sky again, 1371 01:42:07,481 --> 01:42:10,214 in all its vastness?" 116640

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