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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:00,925 --> 00:01:04,864 There's something there that lets you know it's there. 4 00:01:05,963 --> 00:01:08,700 This house, it's really grabbed me. 5 00:01:08,734 --> 00:01:11,303 It's got its hooks sinked into me. 6 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:14,773 There's a lot of thing that happen in this house that we can't explain. 7 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,909 It's wild just being there. 8 00:01:18,910 --> 00:01:24,751 It has this, you know, this aura about it, a... a... a mystery. 9 00:02:27,412 --> 00:02:30,382 I wanted a simple house, I wanted a A-frame house, 10 00:02:30,416 --> 00:02:33,619 and I wanted a... a loft upstairs with a balcony. 11 00:02:35,119 --> 00:02:38,490 And when we first drove by here, it was just a beautiful meadow. 12 00:02:38,524 --> 00:02:40,559 It was covered with wildflowers. 13 00:02:40,591 --> 00:02:41,893 And it just took my breath away. 14 00:02:41,927 --> 00:02:43,796 And I said, you know, "That's it." 15 00:02:43,828 --> 00:02:46,965 I had the house subcontracted, built like I wanted. 16 00:02:49,635 --> 00:02:50,803 When they started building, 17 00:02:50,835 --> 00:02:53,805 we noticed that there were some strange things happening. 18 00:02:54,906 --> 00:02:56,274 The doors would slam. 19 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:59,478 I mean nothing else would be blowing around, but the door would slam. 20 00:03:00,512 --> 00:03:03,014 They put the doorbell in and it would ring. 21 00:03:04,048 --> 00:03:06,385 And you'd go to the door, there's nobody there. 22 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:12,023 I remember deadbolting the door and going upstairs 23 00:03:12,056 --> 00:03:14,693 and as soon as I get upstairs, you know, we heard a bang! 24 00:03:15,226 --> 00:03:18,630 I looked out and the door was open. 25 00:03:18,663 --> 00:03:20,766 But it had the deadbolt still sticking out. 26 00:03:20,798 --> 00:03:23,635 This house had a lot of activity that was unusual 27 00:03:23,668 --> 00:03:24,636 and we knew that. 28 00:03:24,669 --> 00:03:26,571 I made peace with that, I lived with that 29 00:03:26,605 --> 00:03:28,541 until 2011. 30 00:03:33,512 --> 00:03:38,184 At 11:30, I was probably in bed by 12 o' clock. 31 00:03:38,983 --> 00:03:41,520 And it was pitch-black dark in here. 32 00:03:43,155 --> 00:03:44,623 And a light came on 33 00:03:44,655 --> 00:03:46,624 and I opened my eyes and, uh, 34 00:03:46,657 --> 00:03:48,594 there was this... it was light. 35 00:03:48,626 --> 00:03:52,697 It was a patch of total daylight from the ceiling to the floor. 36 00:03:52,731 --> 00:03:55,233 And it was daylight in this tube of light 37 00:03:55,267 --> 00:03:57,970 and it was pitch black in the rest of the room. 38 00:03:59,838 --> 00:04:01,573 I just stared at it. 39 00:04:01,607 --> 00:04:05,077 After about 10 seconds, it just went blink, it went out. 40 00:04:06,244 --> 00:04:07,612 I just covered my head 41 00:04:07,645 --> 00:04:09,047 and I pulled back the covers 42 00:04:09,081 --> 00:04:12,918 and I saw there were like, real bright red buttons of light. 43 00:04:16,622 --> 00:04:18,157 I had a flashlight on the bed 44 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:19,825 and I shone the flashlight all around the room 45 00:04:19,858 --> 00:04:22,495 and uh, there was nothing unusual. 46 00:04:25,731 --> 00:04:27,199 And I really did feel watched. 47 00:04:27,231 --> 00:04:29,868 I felt a presence, I felt observed. 48 00:04:31,937 --> 00:04:33,439 I didn't know if it was a religious experience, 49 00:04:33,471 --> 00:04:36,709 I didn't know if it was a UFO experience, I didn't know what it was. 50 00:04:36,741 --> 00:04:38,210 It scared me to death. 51 00:04:39,678 --> 00:04:41,247 That was a turning point in my life, 52 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,781 because I decided that I would not stay here 53 00:04:43,815 --> 00:04:45,750 by myself at night. 54 00:04:49,221 --> 00:04:52,291 I never mentioned it to hardly anybody in this town 55 00:04:52,324 --> 00:04:54,159 about the paranormal activity in my house, 56 00:04:54,192 --> 00:04:56,262 because I wasn't sure how they would take it. 57 00:04:56,295 --> 00:04:58,230 It's a... it's a... it's in the Bible Belt 58 00:04:58,262 --> 00:05:00,765 and you know... and you know, I just... I didn't know how they would take it. 59 00:05:03,267 --> 00:05:05,236 Florence is a suburb of Jackson, 60 00:05:05,269 --> 00:05:07,272 the statistical metropolitan area. 61 00:05:08,072 --> 00:05:10,543 This is community that's... that's got good neighbors. 62 00:05:11,142 --> 00:05:13,178 They probably pretty much keep to themselves 63 00:05:13,211 --> 00:05:15,014 and that may be what makes them good neighbors. 64 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:19,118 I think the people are real nice. 65 00:05:19,151 --> 00:05:21,587 If somebody dies, 66 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:24,156 uh, everybody comes and brings food 67 00:05:24,188 --> 00:05:28,159 and they go to the cemetery or they go to the funeral halls 68 00:05:28,192 --> 00:05:31,029 or do what they can for you. 69 00:05:31,062 --> 00:05:32,565 We're just country. 70 00:05:33,197 --> 00:05:36,199 Just... just country. 71 00:05:43,075 --> 00:05:45,945 Florence is a great town, but it's a southern town. 72 00:05:45,978 --> 00:05:48,013 Some people are open-minded 73 00:05:48,046 --> 00:05:49,981 and some people are very close-minded. 74 00:05:51,149 --> 00:05:54,620 Florence is very Bible Belt-ish. 75 00:05:54,652 --> 00:05:58,990 Bringing in the paranormal to them is unbelievable. 76 00:05:59,890 --> 00:06:01,359 Do you believe in ghosts? 77 00:06:01,392 --> 00:06:03,061 Uh, believe in what? 78 00:06:04,997 --> 00:06:06,999 No, I don't. 79 00:06:07,865 --> 00:06:11,236 I am a Christian, I do believe in the Holy Spirit. 80 00:06:12,003 --> 00:06:16,241 If y'all... y'all go stay out in empty houses all night, I'll go to bed. 81 00:06:22,981 --> 00:06:24,483 I was all embarrassed, 82 00:06:24,515 --> 00:06:26,184 because I thought, you know, I'm just gonna look like an idiot. 83 00:06:27,418 --> 00:06:30,154 So, I didn't tell anybody until it became known enough 84 00:06:30,187 --> 00:06:32,358 that I knew there were gonna do a little news program on it. 85 00:06:33,190 --> 00:06:35,893 On the outside, it looks like your typical home, 86 00:06:35,926 --> 00:06:38,697 but inside it's anything but normal. 87 00:06:39,063 --> 00:06:42,133 The candle just got up and landed. 88 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:45,070 It didn't just tipple over and it didn't shoot over, 89 00:06:45,103 --> 00:06:46,973 it just kinda levitated over there. 90 00:06:50,942 --> 00:06:52,811 After that news segment, 91 00:06:52,844 --> 00:06:56,081 that just kinda validated to me that it was okay to express it, 92 00:06:56,113 --> 00:06:58,017 because I just kept it inside, I didn't tell a lot of people. 93 00:06:58,050 --> 00:06:59,218 But once it was documented, 94 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,654 I felt perfectly free then to talk about it. 95 00:07:01,687 --> 00:07:03,422 And it was really a big moment. 96 00:07:03,454 --> 00:07:05,056 That kinda made it real for me. 97 00:07:05,089 --> 00:07:09,060 I think that's when it... that's when I started being really open to really... 98 00:07:09,094 --> 00:07:11,096 I was trying to find somebody who could... 99 00:07:11,128 --> 00:07:12,864 or maybe come up with some explanation. 100 00:07:17,969 --> 00:07:20,171 I started talking to a friend ofmine at work 101 00:07:20,204 --> 00:07:22,974 and she said she knew a young investigator 102 00:07:23,007 --> 00:07:25,745 named John Bullard who might be interested. 103 00:07:35,252 --> 00:07:36,954 My name's John Bullard. 104 00:07:36,988 --> 00:07:38,389 I'm a marketing director 105 00:07:38,423 --> 00:07:40,425 for about 40 different restaurants. 106 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:43,928 What got me into the paranormal is 107 00:07:43,962 --> 00:07:46,130 ever since I was a little child, 108 00:07:46,163 --> 00:07:48,800 I would see shadow figures, I would hear voices. 109 00:07:50,067 --> 00:07:52,003 I didn't know if I was crazy or not 110 00:07:52,036 --> 00:07:54,106 and I wanted to validate it for myself. 111 00:07:54,772 --> 00:07:56,374 Uh, I didn't want to validate it for anybody else, 112 00:07:56,408 --> 00:07:58,143 I just wanted to figure out that I wasn't crazy. 113 00:07:58,175 --> 00:07:59,176 And I started doing research 114 00:07:59,211 --> 00:08:01,880 about the supernatural and the paranormal. 115 00:08:01,913 --> 00:08:07,386 And I kinda, you know, over time wanted to test the waters, 116 00:08:07,418 --> 00:08:10,389 so I went to supposedly haunted places to test the waters, 117 00:08:10,421 --> 00:08:12,190 to see if I could actually capture something, 118 00:08:12,224 --> 00:08:13,892 if I could feel something 119 00:08:13,925 --> 00:08:16,995 or sense something that I sensed when I was child. 120 00:08:17,027 --> 00:08:20,398 We accidentally caught an incredible spirit voice EVP, 121 00:08:20,432 --> 00:08:23,335 electronic voice phenomenon and that kinda changed me. 122 00:08:24,935 --> 00:08:27,406 What is that white out near the woods, you see that? 123 00:08:29,274 --> 00:08:30,976 It is in the woods, you see it now? 124 00:08:31,009 --> 00:08:33,878 Oh, no, no, no, shine closer to it, shine. 125 00:08:34,378 --> 00:08:35,613 In here. 126 00:08:35,647 --> 00:08:38,283 - What the fuck was that? - What was that? What? 127 00:08:38,849 --> 00:08:40,485 Did you say-that place said "in here?" 128 00:08:41,319 --> 00:08:42,286 No. 129 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,156 Did y'all not... you didn't hear that? 130 00:08:44,189 --> 00:08:45,825 No, I'm sorry. 131 00:08:46,291 --> 00:08:47,526 In here. 132 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,428 There... there, did you hear anybody say, "in here?" 133 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:51,363 Did someone just say "in here?" 134 00:08:51,396 --> 00:08:52,363 Did you hear that? 135 00:08:52,397 --> 00:08:54,299 - Uh, I heard something. - John. 136 00:08:54,331 --> 00:08:56,267 - I'm not fucking kidding. - I'm sorry. 137 00:08:56,300 --> 00:09:00,004 Well, my biggest goal that I set in my mind was 138 00:09:00,037 --> 00:09:02,106 to document evidence 139 00:09:02,140 --> 00:09:05,077 that was clean, clear, and easy to view. 140 00:09:12,416 --> 00:09:14,219 Did somebody just make that noise? 141 00:09:16,555 --> 00:09:19,291 I was referred to the Mississippi house 142 00:09:19,324 --> 00:09:21,227 by a friend of a friend. 143 00:09:22,127 --> 00:09:23,362 When we pull up to the house, 144 00:09:23,395 --> 00:09:25,531 you would never think there was anything really going on 145 00:09:25,564 --> 00:09:26,966 inside the house. 146 00:09:27,364 --> 00:09:29,033 So, we were really skeptical, 147 00:09:29,066 --> 00:09:30,835 but we figured we'd hear her out. 148 00:09:31,335 --> 00:09:33,437 Alice told us about the lights 149 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:35,541 that she experienced in the bottom bedroom 150 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:38,777 and some other sounds that she'd heard in the house. 151 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:44,081 And just from the pre-investigation that we did, 152 00:09:44,114 --> 00:09:46,084 it really started to intrigue me. 153 00:09:47,051 --> 00:09:48,521 Things moved. 154 00:09:51,289 --> 00:09:52,958 Lights that have turned off. 155 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:55,060 It's something different 156 00:09:55,093 --> 00:09:56,495 than just a paranormal investigation. 157 00:09:58,128 --> 00:09:59,998 We have done about nine years, 158 00:10:00,031 --> 00:10:03,301 it's the longest location that we have ever done consistently. 159 00:10:04,469 --> 00:10:06,037 We have a DVR system 160 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:08,105 that is filming the house 24 hours a day, 161 00:10:08,138 --> 00:10:09,307 they try to capture something else. 162 00:10:10,876 --> 00:10:12,578 There's definitely something else out there, 163 00:10:12,610 --> 00:10:15,546 whether it's a uh, you know, another world 164 00:10:15,579 --> 00:10:17,583 or something that we're tapping into. 165 00:10:18,916 --> 00:10:20,886 Uh, it's up... it's up for debate. 166 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:32,363 I have something very special for you today. 167 00:10:32,397 --> 00:10:34,233 We have Brad Cooney. 168 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:37,035 Brad is part of the Mississippi house 169 00:10:37,068 --> 00:10:39,638 and it is very well-documented 170 00:10:39,671 --> 00:10:42,273 as a place that is haunted. 171 00:10:42,306 --> 00:10:44,877 So, tell me a little bit about the house. 172 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:46,879 Just about everybody who we bring in there, 173 00:10:46,911 --> 00:10:47,812 it just... it creeps 'em out. 174 00:10:47,847 --> 00:10:49,381 There's a different energy in there 175 00:10:49,414 --> 00:10:51,516 like you... you mentioned in your opening. 176 00:10:51,549 --> 00:10:53,285 It's very well-documented, 177 00:10:53,318 --> 00:10:55,221 the evidence captured is amazing. 178 00:11:02,227 --> 00:11:03,228 Good? 179 00:11:04,963 --> 00:11:06,365 Will you get that close cobwebs out? 180 00:11:06,397 --> 00:11:07,432 You see I'm not home so much, 181 00:11:07,465 --> 00:11:08,700 I didn't realize all those cobwebs are back there. 182 00:11:08,733 --> 00:11:11,336 This is really out of my comfort zone, this whole thing. 183 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:15,207 So, I've lived here uh, 12 years. 184 00:11:15,674 --> 00:11:20,078 12 years now and this is where I do all my... my podcasts 185 00:11:20,110 --> 00:11:23,581 and throughout my boxing journalistic career 186 00:11:23,614 --> 00:11:27,151 I've accrued quite a few things in the boxing world 187 00:11:27,185 --> 00:11:30,890 writing for magazines and writing for boxing websites. 188 00:11:32,357 --> 00:11:35,493 I've... I've met just about everybody there is 189 00:11:35,526 --> 00:11:37,329 that's anybody in the boxing world. 190 00:11:37,362 --> 00:11:40,632 h, Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather. 191 00:11:40,665 --> 00:11:44,269 I don't go to the fights anymore though, I don't cover it, I did it for a lot of years. 192 00:11:44,301 --> 00:11:46,305 It was just time to start another chapter. 193 00:11:48,305 --> 00:11:50,108 I got into the paranormal 194 00:11:50,141 --> 00:11:52,276 uh, in... in... in... standing in this very room, 195 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:53,612 watched TV one day 196 00:11:53,645 --> 00:11:56,381 and a segment that a local news broadcaster 197 00:11:56,414 --> 00:11:59,151 did on Miss Alice's house caught my attention. 198 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:02,421 I stopped what I was doing, I started watching it 199 00:12:02,454 --> 00:12:04,055 and realized it was really close, 200 00:12:04,089 --> 00:12:09,094 so I reached out to that homeowner and her friend that was also on that segment. 201 00:12:09,127 --> 00:12:10,195 'Cause it was really interesting to me, 202 00:12:10,228 --> 00:12:11,597 especially how close it was. 203 00:12:12,998 --> 00:12:14,366 It was like wow, usually you hear something's haunted or whatever 204 00:12:14,398 --> 00:12:15,566 or whatever it might be 205 00:12:15,599 --> 00:12:18,670 it's a long drive, but this was so close to where I live. 206 00:12:18,703 --> 00:12:21,740 So, I would be interested and it would be really interesting for me 207 00:12:21,772 --> 00:12:23,474 to uh, to see if they'll have me in there 208 00:12:23,507 --> 00:12:24,408 and take a look around. 209 00:12:24,441 --> 00:12:25,542 So that's all, 210 00:12:25,576 --> 00:12:27,111 that's how I started getting into the paranormal. 211 00:12:27,145 --> 00:12:28,246 And it just took off from there. 212 00:12:32,249 --> 00:12:35,486 I met Alice and when she told me her story, 213 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,357 I believed her, instantly. 214 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:40,525 In fact, the first day I came here, 215 00:12:40,557 --> 00:12:42,660 we had... we had some activity happen in the house 216 00:12:42,694 --> 00:12:46,365 which really piqued my interest up at that point. 217 00:12:46,397 --> 00:12:47,699 - Actually, they said - You see that? 218 00:12:47,732 --> 00:12:48,967 It was coming towards the stairs and it went... 219 00:12:48,999 --> 00:12:52,503 - out the door... ooh, ooh, ooh. - Look at that there. 220 00:12:52,536 --> 00:12:54,572 The next week I came back again, 221 00:12:54,605 --> 00:12:56,741 I captured some more evidence 222 00:12:56,775 --> 00:12:59,344 um, that I felt I couldn't explain. 223 00:12:59,377 --> 00:13:01,512 And it... it just blossomed from there. 224 00:13:01,546 --> 00:13:04,181 We had major equipment failure, 225 00:13:04,214 --> 00:13:08,320 because of spirit activity all up in this sucker. 226 00:13:08,353 --> 00:13:10,555 But this is a REM pod that's going nuts. 227 00:13:11,256 --> 00:13:13,658 I learned some of the stuff through research, 228 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:15,726 trying things. 229 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:19,563 Then I got to where I would buy some equipment. 230 00:13:19,597 --> 00:13:22,368 It's... it's kind of how I learned how to investigate. 231 00:13:25,402 --> 00:13:27,471 Brad Cooney came along a few years ago 232 00:13:27,504 --> 00:13:30,375 and really helped out to what we were doing in the Mississippi house. 233 00:13:31,709 --> 00:13:34,146 It's good to get two investigators who are separate, 234 00:13:34,179 --> 00:13:35,714 who originally never knew each other, 235 00:13:35,747 --> 00:13:39,017 who'd come together and are experiencing the same things in the house. 236 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:41,518 This is my... 237 00:13:41,551 --> 00:13:44,322 I'm beginning my third year investigating this house. 238 00:13:45,089 --> 00:13:47,459 Once I think I figured something out, 239 00:13:47,492 --> 00:13:48,794 something else happens. 240 00:13:48,826 --> 00:13:50,796 Some things I've debunked in... in the home, 241 00:13:50,829 --> 00:13:52,697 but many things I... I can't debunk 242 00:13:52,729 --> 00:13:56,567 and that in itself is... is why I keep doing this. 243 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,037 Because there's things that happen here that I just simply... 244 00:13:59,503 --> 00:14:01,672 I can't figure out why it's happening. 245 00:14:21,758 --> 00:14:24,495 Wait, that's gotta be somebody. 246 00:14:42,479 --> 00:14:45,084 Ask for somebody that... ask if anyone's in there? 247 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:10,776 Man. 248 00:15:12,377 --> 00:15:15,447 That might've been the most profound noises we've ever heard in here. 249 00:15:16,314 --> 00:15:17,549 Wow. 250 00:15:20,350 --> 00:15:21,719 During our investigations, 251 00:15:21,752 --> 00:15:23,555 we've heard voices in this house. 252 00:15:24,421 --> 00:15:25,724 Doors open. 253 00:15:42,974 --> 00:15:45,243 We've seen light shut off. 254 00:15:47,778 --> 00:15:49,680 So, we would start asking, 255 00:15:51,382 --> 00:15:53,218 you shut that light off again?" 256 00:15:53,251 --> 00:15:55,687 And we've actually gotten direct responses 257 00:15:55,719 --> 00:15:56,888 to where the light would shut off. 258 00:15:58,022 --> 00:16:00,258 Can you make any noise or do something for us 259 00:16:00,925 --> 00:16:03,362 that will tell us that we're not alone in here? 260 00:16:20,478 --> 00:16:21,780 Which one in here? 261 00:16:21,813 --> 00:16:23,715 He said the black 262 00:16:23,748 --> 00:16:24,950 Is this? Oh! 263 00:16:24,983 --> 00:16:26,785 Oh my God, will you look at 264 00:16:26,818 --> 00:16:27,719 And it's on camera. 265 00:16:28,719 --> 00:16:30,656 The chandelier just shut off by itself. 266 00:16:31,355 --> 00:16:33,257 We believe it's possible that 267 00:16:34,325 --> 00:16:36,695 spirit activity, spirits that hear us 268 00:16:36,728 --> 00:16:38,363 are communicating with us. 269 00:16:38,863 --> 00:16:43,334 And we try to, get as much as we can for possibly a breakthrough. 270 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,272 So, I do feel like we are teaching the spirits to communicate with us. 271 00:16:47,305 --> 00:16:48,974 I feel like we are teaching the dead 272 00:16:49,007 --> 00:16:51,977 inside the house of Mississippi how to communicate with us. 273 00:16:55,647 --> 00:16:57,215 Please. 274 00:17:00,550 --> 00:17:02,653 I feel your static-charged energy, 275 00:17:02,686 --> 00:17:04,455 turn it up for me, please. 276 00:17:06,824 --> 00:17:08,325 There we go. 277 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,596 - There we go! - There we go. 278 00:17:11,929 --> 00:17:14,565 We use a lot of trigger objects inside the house. 279 00:17:15,033 --> 00:17:17,636 We started putting a baseball or two baseballs 280 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:19,571 on the staircase in the Mississippi house. 281 00:17:20,071 --> 00:17:22,274 And for a while we set 'em up there 282 00:17:22,306 --> 00:17:24,608 and obviously, we tried to communicate to the spirits 283 00:17:24,642 --> 00:17:26,478 that we wanted them to move the baseball, 284 00:17:26,510 --> 00:17:28,345 to roll it down the stairs. 285 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:32,818 We want nothing more than to hear the baseball bounce down those stairs and hit the floor. 286 00:17:34,584 --> 00:17:37,788 That baseball sat idle for days. 287 00:17:40,892 --> 00:17:44,828 But then one day just decided to up and move, 288 00:17:44,862 --> 00:17:46,698 and fall down the steps by itself. 289 00:18:13,357 --> 00:18:15,559 Since then it's happened several times. 290 00:18:23,133 --> 00:18:25,903 What the hell's going on in this house? 291 00:18:25,937 --> 00:18:28,973 Why do things move that aren't supposed to move? 292 00:18:29,006 --> 00:18:30,409 Things defy physics. 293 00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:32,477 I want answers. 294 00:18:34,778 --> 00:18:36,480 What happens when we die? 295 00:18:36,514 --> 00:18:39,084 Is there a... does our... do we retain our consciousness when we cross over and... 296 00:18:39,116 --> 00:18:41,920 and this is what we're hearing and seeing in... in this house. 297 00:18:44,122 --> 00:18:46,425 The ball moving has intrigued me the most. 298 00:18:48,125 --> 00:18:51,429 That's something' that I'm really hungry to find out why. 299 00:18:51,461 --> 00:18:53,397 Why is that ball moving? 300 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:55,132 Is there something' behind it? 301 00:18:55,165 --> 00:18:57,534 Why? I have no idea why this is happening. 302 00:18:57,567 --> 00:18:59,671 Let's bring in somebody who might, 303 00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:01,072 I think that's very, very important. 304 00:19:11,516 --> 00:19:12,918 Let's see what we got. 305 00:19:14,619 --> 00:19:16,621 What this does, it holds a level point, 306 00:19:16,653 --> 00:19:18,022 this is what we're gonna shoot from. 307 00:19:24,895 --> 00:19:26,130 Zero. 308 00:19:33,537 --> 00:19:35,406 Side to side, it's level. 309 00:19:45,216 --> 00:19:48,053 There might be a little slope up here, but... 310 00:19:49,053 --> 00:19:50,220 Where? Up there, yeah. 311 00:19:50,254 --> 00:19:53,458 I couldn't see why it would roll down there. Okay. 312 00:19:55,793 --> 00:19:57,594 I am happy to know the... the slope, 313 00:19:57,628 --> 00:19:59,631 because we do have our doors open and close. 314 00:19:59,663 --> 00:20:02,666 And uh, so it's not from, you know, 'cause somebody might say, 315 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:04,168 "Oh, it's 'cause your house is not level." No. 316 00:20:04,201 --> 00:20:06,837 Or if the ball rolls, "Maybe it's 'cause your house is not level." No. 317 00:20:07,537 --> 00:20:10,508 No, but what's crazy is your house has been level since... 318 00:20:11,174 --> 00:20:12,976 - Since a long time ago. - '06. 319 00:20:13,009 --> 00:20:14,511 - '06, uh-huh. - Yeah, 320 00:20:14,545 --> 00:20:15,747 the measurements are still the same. 321 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:16,847 Yeah. 322 00:20:16,881 --> 00:20:18,850 I hope that by bringing experts in 323 00:20:18,882 --> 00:20:21,719 that there will be some discoveries made 324 00:20:21,751 --> 00:20:24,188 that will be important to us all. 325 00:20:26,824 --> 00:20:31,496 How can objects move that have no apparent energy source? 326 00:20:31,895 --> 00:20:33,864 There's obviously an answer, but we don't know it. 327 00:20:35,232 --> 00:20:38,168 There's some sort of convergence of energy here 328 00:20:38,201 --> 00:20:39,603 that we can't explain. 329 00:21:16,606 --> 00:21:19,643 So, in my opinion all that's working fine 330 00:21:19,677 --> 00:21:21,913 to the chandelier and these lights. 331 00:21:22,712 --> 00:21:24,081 And I checked the breaker, 332 00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:28,152 the breaker's shutting it off and good voltage there. 333 00:21:29,253 --> 00:21:32,190 This dimmer here, it works fine. 334 00:21:32,222 --> 00:21:35,559 Uh, sometimes the dimmers would go bad 335 00:21:35,593 --> 00:21:38,930 and make it, you know, go dimmer. 336 00:21:38,962 --> 00:21:41,699 But that seems to be working fine. 337 00:21:41,731 --> 00:21:44,068 At this time, I'm not finding anything wrong with it. 338 00:21:45,036 --> 00:21:50,609 So, I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary. 339 00:21:51,075 --> 00:21:52,977 I would... I mean I would've liked to have seen it 340 00:21:53,009 --> 00:21:55,646 doing what it would, y'all said it did though. 341 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,815 That would be interesting to me. 342 00:21:56,847 --> 00:21:59,984 I think electricals' fine, there's nothing wrong with it. 343 00:22:00,985 --> 00:22:03,755 I think you... you're looking at something else. 344 00:22:09,059 --> 00:22:11,796 So, when you stopped, after the lights happened, 345 00:22:11,828 --> 00:22:13,764 you decided, "I'm not gonna stay here anymore." 346 00:22:15,098 --> 00:22:17,067 Did you think about it when you weren't here? 347 00:22:17,101 --> 00:22:19,070 The first few nights you didn't stay at the house, 348 00:22:19,103 --> 00:22:21,171 were you kinda wondering what was going on? 349 00:22:21,205 --> 00:22:22,574 Did you think about coming back 350 00:22:22,606 --> 00:22:23,941 and trying to stay at the house again? 351 00:22:23,975 --> 00:22:25,577 - Or after you made the decision - No. 352 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:26,811 That was it? 353 00:22:26,844 --> 00:22:28,813 No, that was... that was clear cut. 354 00:22:28,845 --> 00:22:30,781 I'm outta there. Yeah. 355 00:22:30,815 --> 00:22:34,251 Because... because I thought nobody could help me. 356 00:22:34,285 --> 00:22:36,321 I mean, if you're here and something', 357 00:22:36,353 --> 00:22:38,890 if there's an intelligence that's greater than you 358 00:22:38,922 --> 00:22:40,724 and they have these abilities that are greater than you, 359 00:22:40,757 --> 00:22:42,059 you know you're gone and nobody... 360 00:22:42,093 --> 00:22:43,161 nobody's gonna be able to help. 361 00:22:43,193 --> 00:22:46,730 No, but I mean you could tell the... the real fear, 362 00:22:46,764 --> 00:22:48,498 because again you know 363 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:51,836 It's one of those things you don't talk a lot about, you know especially in the South. 364 00:22:51,869 --> 00:22:53,237 But when it gets to the point 365 00:22:53,269 --> 00:22:54,939 where you wanna reach out to somebody, 366 00:22:54,971 --> 00:22:56,007 which I'm glad you did 367 00:22:57,274 --> 00:23:00,712 Uh, because we uncovered a whole mountain of stuff, you know. 368 00:23:00,745 --> 00:23:04,916 I think there's times that we could push ourselves. 369 00:23:04,949 --> 00:23:07,118 But this house sometimes is so intense 370 00:23:07,151 --> 00:23:08,686 I have to back away. 371 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:10,622 There's only so much I can take, you know? 372 00:23:10,654 --> 00:23:14,024 I... I... I have a passion for this field, documentation, but 373 00:23:14,057 --> 00:23:16,960 this house will push you to uh, a whole another limit. 374 00:23:16,994 --> 00:23:19,130 Well, you brought up a great point about... 375 00:23:19,162 --> 00:23:21,632 'cause people have asked you and me also, 376 00:23:21,665 --> 00:23:24,301 "Why would you be scared if you've been there so many times?" 377 00:23:24,334 --> 00:23:27,872 It's because we've experienced what this house can do. 378 00:23:27,904 --> 00:23:30,340 And when you're in this house by yourself, when it's dark, l 379 00:23:30,373 --> 00:23:32,142 ights are off, door's locked... 380 00:23:32,176 --> 00:23:34,112 - Yep. - It's a different ballgame. 381 00:23:34,144 --> 00:23:37,114 Well, it's interesting that you know, it took the lights 382 00:23:37,148 --> 00:23:39,317 to be the tipping point for you to reach out 383 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:42,120 and actually express it and start getting people in here to help you. 384 00:23:42,152 --> 00:23:43,854 I mean, maybe somebody else has experienced that, 385 00:23:43,888 --> 00:23:46,324 maybe somebody else understands what it might be. 386 00:24:21,991 --> 00:24:23,427 So, I was invited by Alice 387 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,796 to come and investigate her house. 388 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:27,799 At first, I was a little hesitant, 389 00:24:27,832 --> 00:24:29,100 but I talked to her on the phone 390 00:24:29,132 --> 00:24:31,902 and something really is troubling her. 391 00:24:31,936 --> 00:24:34,739 You know, I could just tell how sincere she was 392 00:24:34,771 --> 00:24:37,107 and how much this house scared her. 393 00:24:37,141 --> 00:24:39,310 I mean, the fact that it's been 10 years 394 00:24:39,343 --> 00:24:41,144 and she hasn't slept in the house. 395 00:24:41,178 --> 00:24:44,282 And the fact that she's opened it up to other people 396 00:24:44,315 --> 00:24:46,851 trying to figure out what is happening here. 397 00:24:46,883 --> 00:24:50,153 And they showed me a lot of things that I couldn't explain. 398 00:24:50,187 --> 00:24:52,423 There may be something paranormal happening, 399 00:24:52,456 --> 00:24:55,126 but it could be anything, you know? 400 00:24:55,159 --> 00:24:56,928 But I wanna start checking things off. 401 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,961 "Okay, no, it's not this." 402 00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,931 And I wanna help them get to the bottom of it. 403 00:25:18,949 --> 00:25:21,017 - Hi, Alice. - How are you doing? 404 00:25:21,051 --> 00:25:22,252 - How are you? - Good. 405 00:25:22,286 --> 00:25:24,389 - It's nice to see you. - Aww, it's good to see you. 406 00:25:24,955 --> 00:25:26,424 - Thank you. - It really is. 407 00:25:26,457 --> 00:25:28,526 Uh, I have some uh, people here and 408 00:25:28,558 --> 00:25:29,893 - Hey, y'all. - ...we're ready to do this. 409 00:25:35,999 --> 00:25:37,969 John and Brad realized 410 00:25:38,001 --> 00:25:40,938 that they've sort of done about all that they can. 411 00:25:41,838 --> 00:25:46,777 Now it's time to step in and bring it to the next level. 412 00:25:48,879 --> 00:25:52,083 It's time to bring in some... some other people. 413 00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:55,553 I got all of these different experts 414 00:25:55,585 --> 00:25:58,021 to come together and get answers. 415 00:26:19,276 --> 00:26:20,443 Millions of years ago, 416 00:26:20,477 --> 00:26:23,046 when the dinosaurs walked the Earth, 417 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,483 this area was actually the bottom of the shallow sea. 418 00:26:27,183 --> 00:26:29,987 If you find a dinosaur bone in Mississippi, 419 00:26:30,019 --> 00:26:32,155 it's not gonna be a land-based dinosaur. 420 00:26:32,189 --> 00:26:35,125 In fact, it's a huge prehistoric whale 421 00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:37,061 in the Mississippi science museum. 422 00:26:37,961 --> 00:26:40,931 All this life settles to the bottom 423 00:26:40,965 --> 00:26:43,568 and over the eons becomes limestone. 424 00:26:44,901 --> 00:26:49,407 Florence was an early area of mining for this limestone. 425 00:26:53,177 --> 00:26:55,279 The house is not an 1800s house, 426 00:26:55,312 --> 00:26:57,115 the house was built in the '90s. 427 00:26:58,548 --> 00:27:01,318 And even at the construction of the house, 428 00:27:01,352 --> 00:27:03,353 she already had experiences going on. 429 00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:07,023 To me, I would assume that something' associated with the land 430 00:27:07,056 --> 00:27:08,593 and not necessarily the house. 431 00:27:30,113 --> 00:27:33,150 I'm Qilin Dai from Jackson State University, 432 00:27:33,182 --> 00:27:35,452 assistant professor of physics. 433 00:27:35,486 --> 00:27:39,055 There is a theory out there that limestone 434 00:27:39,088 --> 00:27:42,526 ...can perhaps retain energy and release it. 435 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:46,898 Uh, would that be something that's possible in your opinion? 436 00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:48,399 I think it's very possible. 437 00:27:48,431 --> 00:27:51,168 Limestone and mineral... other minerals, 438 00:27:52,199 --> 00:27:53,304 they can absorb energy. 439 00:27:54,037 --> 00:27:56,239 The simplest way for a lime or rock 440 00:27:56,273 --> 00:27:58,376 to absorb energy is the heat, 441 00:27:58,409 --> 00:27:59,911 so they can be heated, 442 00:27:59,943 --> 00:28:03,113 so then they have this energy, thermo energy. 443 00:28:03,146 --> 00:28:05,181 And then they can deliver this energy, 444 00:28:05,215 --> 00:28:07,385 so energy can be transported through them. 445 00:28:08,052 --> 00:28:09,554 Do you think that... 446 00:28:10,453 --> 00:28:14,024 anything like underground water 447 00:28:14,057 --> 00:28:18,461 or moving water could create a static charge? 448 00:28:18,495 --> 00:28:20,164 Is that even a possibility? 449 00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:22,300 With water underground the earth 450 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:23,968 cannot create any charges. 451 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,238 Maybe because of lighting something from nature, 452 00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,006 it can be charged, 453 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,509 but they cannot create new charges. 454 00:28:32,543 --> 00:28:34,011 So, this is law. 455 00:28:34,044 --> 00:28:37,180 Okay. As you can see here, 456 00:28:37,213 --> 00:28:40,150 and this is a... a ball here and um 457 00:28:40,584 --> 00:28:42,585 - and... - Where is the ball? 458 00:28:42,619 --> 00:28:44,055 See that little circle right there? 459 00:28:44,087 --> 00:28:45,288 - Oh, I see it, I see it. - Yeah. 460 00:28:45,322 --> 00:28:47,491 And what happens a lot of the time 461 00:28:47,524 --> 00:28:50,026 is it will propel forward 462 00:28:50,059 --> 00:28:55,299 and just start to fall down the stairs. 463 00:28:55,699 --> 00:28:58,102 And, in your opinion, 464 00:28:59,169 --> 00:29:03,074 would it be possible that energy could do that? 465 00:29:03,106 --> 00:29:04,174 It's not earthquake? 466 00:29:05,241 --> 00:29:06,978 That was my first thought. It was 467 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,178 Yeah, it's a 468 00:29:09,645 --> 00:29:11,147 Michael Dennin, 469 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:13,484 I am the Vice Provost for teaching and learning here at UC Irvine. 470 00:29:17,086 --> 00:29:19,489 So, it's really interesting footage like this 471 00:29:19,523 --> 00:29:21,025 where you have like a ball. 472 00:29:21,057 --> 00:29:22,593 In this case, there's a ball in the stairs 473 00:29:22,625 --> 00:29:24,527 and then it suddenly moves and rolls down the stairs. 474 00:29:24,561 --> 00:29:25,730 First of all, it's a ball, 475 00:29:25,763 --> 00:29:28,165 so that's kind of makes it a little easier, 476 00:29:28,198 --> 00:29:29,533 'cause those do roll. 477 00:29:29,565 --> 00:29:32,135 Um, the challenge is figuring out 478 00:29:32,169 --> 00:29:34,104 what would've kicked or got the ball rolling. 479 00:29:34,805 --> 00:29:37,475 The dramatic part is simply that the ball starts it all. 480 00:29:37,507 --> 00:29:39,677 Being on stairs, once it gets going, 481 00:29:39,709 --> 00:29:41,144 it's gonna fall down the stairs 482 00:29:41,178 --> 00:29:43,381 and that part is pretty straightforward. 483 00:29:43,413 --> 00:29:45,482 This is a bit of a challenge. 484 00:29:45,516 --> 00:29:48,052 You can't deny that the ball moved. 485 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,689 I can speculate, I can say things like, 486 00:29:51,721 --> 00:29:53,656 "There's a little bit of shaking in the house." 487 00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:55,593 Some wind you didn't notice. 488 00:29:55,625 --> 00:29:58,128 Which is harder to believe, 'cause winds hardly move a ball. 489 00:29:58,161 --> 00:30:00,564 There's a lot of ways I can imagine if I wanted to fool you, 490 00:30:00,596 --> 00:30:02,599 I could certainly set up ways 491 00:30:02,632 --> 00:30:04,267 that a ball would move with nobody home. 492 00:30:04,301 --> 00:30:08,406 If the ball is made of iron and then they have the uh... 493 00:30:08,439 --> 00:30:10,041 - Magnet. - Magnet. 494 00:30:10,074 --> 00:30:13,110 To attract or you know, repel that... 495 00:30:13,142 --> 00:30:16,279 - that is come different story for this. - I see. 496 00:30:16,313 --> 00:30:17,715 So, you think if the... 497 00:30:17,748 --> 00:30:21,052 maybe it's more trickery than 498 00:30:21,084 --> 00:30:22,019 Yeah. 499 00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:35,399 I bet air will do a little bit. 500 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:38,669 There's no breeze 501 00:30:38,701 --> 00:30:41,238 coming through this house that's this powerful? 502 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,205 No. 503 00:30:49,212 --> 00:30:51,514 A ball can move by itself 504 00:30:51,547 --> 00:30:55,251 maybe we could not see the uh, force, 505 00:30:55,285 --> 00:30:56,786 for example like air. 506 00:30:56,819 --> 00:31:00,090 We cannot see the air, but we can prove there are air there. 507 00:31:00,123 --> 00:31:01,624 We could not see the motion, 508 00:31:01,658 --> 00:31:04,628 but we can see the results, we can see it's moving. 509 00:31:04,661 --> 00:31:07,198 As a scientist, I don't believe ghosts at all. 510 00:31:07,698 --> 00:31:08,833 I believe science. 511 00:31:12,268 --> 00:31:15,573 Without it being a complete hoax, 512 00:31:15,605 --> 00:31:17,740 how would you explain something like this? 513 00:31:17,774 --> 00:31:21,712 I know ultimately the end result is a physics action, 514 00:31:21,745 --> 00:31:24,515 like the ball starts moving, 515 00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:28,384 so the immediate cause of that also has to be a physics action. 516 00:31:28,418 --> 00:31:30,221 I... I do think it... 517 00:31:30,254 --> 00:31:35,392 it's not air, it's not wind, uh, it's certainly not magnet. 518 00:31:35,424 --> 00:31:38,328 I... I think we could check under the stairs maybe. 519 00:31:45,768 --> 00:31:47,337 There's no holes here. 520 00:31:52,276 --> 00:31:53,544 Do you wanna see what happens 521 00:31:53,576 --> 00:31:56,412 if I give it a bit of punch up here? 522 00:31:56,446 --> 00:31:58,482 - Yeah. - See if the ball moves maybe. 523 00:31:58,515 --> 00:31:59,684 Go ahead. 524 00:32:07,790 --> 00:32:09,159 Anything? 525 00:32:09,192 --> 00:32:11,161 Nothing, it's not even moving. 526 00:32:11,194 --> 00:32:13,196 If you really were there, 527 00:32:13,229 --> 00:32:16,733 I guess rule out what I would call, "the trivial physical cases", 528 00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:19,836 and rule out the... the cases of hoaxes, 529 00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:22,273 then you're into this interesting realm of, 530 00:32:22,305 --> 00:32:24,174 "Okay, something physical caused it, 531 00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,875 but what caused that physical?" 532 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:28,879 Most ideas of a ghost 533 00:32:28,911 --> 00:32:31,515 involve the ghost being non-physical 534 00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:32,950 in some fundamental way. 535 00:32:32,982 --> 00:32:35,418 Any paranormal explanation 536 00:32:35,451 --> 00:32:37,520 is still going to involve 537 00:32:37,554 --> 00:32:40,423 something applying a force to the ball. 538 00:32:41,257 --> 00:32:42,226 And so therefore, 539 00:32:42,258 --> 00:32:44,495 the thing applying the force by definition, 540 00:32:44,527 --> 00:32:45,863 we've just made it physical. 541 00:32:46,529 --> 00:32:48,498 So, it's just an interesting conundrum 542 00:32:48,532 --> 00:32:51,636 that, to me, moves it from science to detective story. 543 00:32:57,341 --> 00:32:59,911 In the years that I've been here, 544 00:33:00,911 --> 00:33:02,779 I want to experience some lights. 545 00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:05,182 I've seen so many things in this house 546 00:33:05,548 --> 00:33:08,185 and with my own eyes, 547 00:33:08,852 --> 00:33:11,788 but that's what I wanna... that's what I wanna see. 548 00:33:12,456 --> 00:33:13,757 Those lights that you saw. 549 00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:16,793 We got all kinds of just great stuff 550 00:33:16,826 --> 00:33:21,231 and just stuff that's just direct responses and it's... it's fully intelligent. 551 00:33:21,265 --> 00:33:22,700 You know, it's not residual, 552 00:33:22,732 --> 00:33:25,401 it's intelligent stuff happening in the house, 553 00:33:25,434 --> 00:33:27,303 but there's that carrot that's dangling 554 00:33:27,336 --> 00:33:28,404 - Like the Holy Grail - Those lights 555 00:33:28,438 --> 00:33:31,007 The Holy Grail of what we're trying to capture here 556 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,909 is those... those... the lights that Alice saw. 557 00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:33,911 Yeah. 558 00:33:37,748 --> 00:33:38,915 Over the years, 559 00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:41,451 I've experienced one thing with lights. 560 00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,755 So, I was upstairs in the bedroom at the Mississippi house 561 00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:48,358 with the door closed, we were doing an EVP session. 562 00:33:48,392 --> 00:33:50,228 It was me and one fellow investigator. 563 00:33:51,728 --> 00:33:54,465 And the bottom frame of the door 564 00:33:54,498 --> 00:33:55,967 turned bright white 565 00:33:57,433 --> 00:33:59,902 and it was almost like a camera shutter, 566 00:33:59,936 --> 00:34:01,805 two to three flashes of light. 567 00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:07,411 I sat there, kind of, in awe for a few minutes. 568 00:34:07,443 --> 00:34:10,647 It was not raining, there was no thunder, the night was clear. 569 00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:13,017 I opened the door and it never happened again. 570 00:34:13,049 --> 00:34:15,585 We luckily did capture that on film. 571 00:34:20,357 --> 00:34:22,359 Miss Alice has had experiences with the lights, 572 00:34:22,392 --> 00:34:24,928 the... these are the... the lights that have scared her 573 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,631 to where she doesn't want to... to live in this house anymore. 574 00:34:28,899 --> 00:34:33,036 I personally don't feel that's a spirit activity or a ghost, 575 00:34:33,069 --> 00:34:34,638 I think that's something different. 576 00:34:36,006 --> 00:34:37,507 Perhaps, extra-terrestrial. 577 00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:41,812 It's something different going on with those lights. 578 00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:46,083 There is a woman who lives 7 miles from me, 579 00:34:46,116 --> 00:34:47,051 she's an elderly lady 580 00:34:47,084 --> 00:34:49,520 and so this happened when she was a child, 581 00:34:49,553 --> 00:34:53,656 but she said that her house lit up in a globe. 582 00:34:53,689 --> 00:34:55,325 And she said it was brighter than the sun, 583 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:56,661 I remember that... that expression. 584 00:34:59,696 --> 00:35:01,598 Many years ago, 585 00:35:01,631 --> 00:35:03,600 when I lived... when I worked in Florence, 586 00:35:03,632 --> 00:35:06,337 Alice was in and out of the library where I worked a lot, 587 00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:07,305 'cause she lived close by. 588 00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:11,375 And I was telling her about this light that I saw 589 00:35:11,408 --> 00:35:12,976 when I was growing up 590 00:35:13,009 --> 00:35:14,978 right down in this community. 591 00:35:15,011 --> 00:35:17,448 And I was asleep at night 592 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,917 and I was awake, just fla... 593 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:25,355 you know, flash and my... my light in my bedroom 594 00:35:25,388 --> 00:35:28,925 was lighter than... well, it was just a white light. 595 00:35:28,959 --> 00:35:31,428 A clear white brilliant light. 596 00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:33,730 Flash bulb bright. 597 00:35:33,763 --> 00:35:36,767 - Yeah, something like that. - It's just super, super bright. 598 00:35:36,799 --> 00:35:39,736 The trees and the house on the hill and everything 599 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:41,071 Brilliant, brilliant 600 00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:43,040 Was just brilliant, brilliant light. 601 00:35:43,707 --> 00:35:45,075 It just faded away. 602 00:35:45,107 --> 00:35:47,077 And I just went back to bed and went back to sleep. 603 00:35:47,977 --> 00:35:50,447 You know, it's just... there's too much space 604 00:35:51,515 --> 00:35:52,817 to be the only ones here. 605 00:35:54,584 --> 00:35:56,819 She didn't know what that is in her house 606 00:35:56,852 --> 00:35:58,922 and I don't know what that was at my house. 607 00:36:00,457 --> 00:36:02,526 It's strange, I... you know, 608 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,828 it... it's really strange. 609 00:36:07,564 --> 00:36:09,665 The woman that I spoke to you about Alice Jackson. 610 00:36:09,698 --> 00:36:10,700 Uh-huh, yes, yeah. 611 00:36:10,734 --> 00:36:14,036 Uh, she'd said that in her bedroom... 612 00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:19,042 there was a glowing light and then disappeared. 613 00:36:19,075 --> 00:36:20,544 In... in your opinion, 614 00:36:20,576 --> 00:36:23,479 is there anything in terms of energy, science, 615 00:36:23,513 --> 00:36:28,652 things that are happening that could create an illuminated ball of light. 616 00:36:28,685 --> 00:36:31,188 A light cannot happen spontaneously, 617 00:36:31,221 --> 00:36:35,059 it has to have origin to have this light. 618 00:36:35,725 --> 00:36:37,728 If we have like other light, 619 00:36:37,761 --> 00:36:40,831 maybe reflection from window or from other place, 620 00:36:40,864 --> 00:36:42,466 it's possible to have that. 621 00:36:42,498 --> 00:36:46,002 Or they have other energy transfer to become light. 622 00:36:46,035 --> 00:36:49,839 Like uh, thermal energy, electric energy, 623 00:36:49,872 --> 00:36:51,974 so it's kind of a complicated question 624 00:36:52,007 --> 00:36:53,576 to... to be answered simply. 625 00:36:55,511 --> 00:36:58,015 There's a phenomenon in nature called "St. Elmo's fire", 626 00:36:58,047 --> 00:37:01,551 which is a static electricity discharge. 627 00:37:01,585 --> 00:37:03,954 If you have a build-up of static electricity for some reason, 628 00:37:03,986 --> 00:37:05,187 yeah, it can cause a glow. 629 00:37:05,221 --> 00:37:08,524 Uh, especially if it has some kind of medium to act on it. 630 00:37:08,558 --> 00:37:10,960 Sometimes, all it takes is just dust in the air. 631 00:37:11,995 --> 00:37:14,698 If it were a ball of lightning she was seeing in her house, 632 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:16,132 she wouldn't have to ask, 633 00:37:16,165 --> 00:37:17,267 because it would tear something up, 634 00:37:17,301 --> 00:37:19,904 because this is a lot of energy, that's very destructive. 635 00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:23,940 Strange lights are often the easiest 636 00:37:23,973 --> 00:37:25,475 to offer different explanations to 637 00:37:25,509 --> 00:37:27,811 of all physics phenomenon. 638 00:37:27,843 --> 00:37:30,046 Light is the most flexible in a weird way. 639 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,016 The challenge is often recreating them 640 00:37:33,049 --> 00:37:35,719 or figuring out exactly what did it, um, 641 00:37:35,752 --> 00:37:37,855 at a level that would make someone confident 642 00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:39,989 that it really was just a physics effect. 643 00:37:42,993 --> 00:37:45,863 If I knew that it was... had a natural explanation, 644 00:37:45,895 --> 00:37:48,832 you know like, you know, I've heard now various theories 645 00:37:48,864 --> 00:37:50,200 about what could cause lights 646 00:37:50,232 --> 00:37:52,535 and if somebody definitively said, 647 00:37:52,569 --> 00:37:55,739 "Oh, it's the minerals and salt, something, you know, 648 00:37:55,772 --> 00:37:57,574 the natural that's causing the lights." 649 00:37:57,607 --> 00:37:59,543 Then I would immediately not be afraid. 650 00:37:59,576 --> 00:38:02,546 But uh, since that hasn't happened, 651 00:38:02,578 --> 00:38:04,580 it might be UFO stuff, 652 00:38:04,614 --> 00:38:07,284 it might be you know, some sort of inter-dimensional stuff 653 00:38:07,317 --> 00:38:11,154 that was from some civilization that was more advanced than we are. 654 00:38:11,187 --> 00:38:12,790 And so, in the beginning, 655 00:38:13,823 --> 00:38:17,560 you thought they were extra-terrestrial, UFOs? 656 00:38:17,593 --> 00:38:18,928 It... it crossed my mind. 657 00:38:18,962 --> 00:38:20,163 It really did cross my mind, 658 00:38:20,196 --> 00:38:21,797 that was the very first thing I thought. 659 00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:25,902 I have never seen anything that I can reconcile this with in my history, you know, 660 00:38:25,935 --> 00:38:27,136 reading or anything 661 00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:29,939 except maybe all the stuff that I had heard about UFO stuff. 662 00:38:29,973 --> 00:38:31,976 You know, beams of light and people disappearing. 663 00:38:45,055 --> 00:38:50,227 My name's Calvin Parker and I was abducted in 1973. 664 00:38:50,259 --> 00:38:52,062 October, 1973. 665 00:38:53,029 --> 00:38:55,766 It was just over here, uh, 666 00:38:55,799 --> 00:38:58,869 length of a football field and back that way. 667 00:38:59,736 --> 00:39:01,638 And that's where it sat down 668 00:39:01,671 --> 00:39:04,841 and when it originally sat down on a space in the river. 669 00:39:04,873 --> 00:39:07,745 And I could see the blue lights coming over my shoulder. 670 00:39:08,678 --> 00:39:11,281 When they stopped and it opened up 671 00:39:11,314 --> 00:39:13,817 and then a real bright light come out. 672 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,787 Three robot-looking creatures came out. 673 00:39:18,254 --> 00:39:20,357 Two of 'em got hold of my sail. 674 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:23,060 Took us aboard, gave us an examination. 675 00:39:24,127 --> 00:39:28,931 I didn't know what a UFO was or an alien was till this happened. 676 00:39:28,964 --> 00:39:31,267 And I still don't know that it was aliens. 52254

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