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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:11,295 Sue, right now, your baby needs to be safe 2 00:02:11,295 --> 00:02:13,831 and you need a bit of support, don't you? 3 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:17,041 I know you love her. Of course you do. 4 00:02:17,086 --> 00:02:20,997 But this will give you a chance to sort yourself out. 5 00:02:21,045 --> 00:02:24,991 I couldn't get on top of it, with everything... 6 00:02:27,628 --> 00:02:30,503 Don't, Margaret. Don't take her. 7 00:02:30,503 --> 00:02:32,337 Do you want to put her down, Sue? 8 00:02:32,337 --> 00:02:34,170 Just put her in the carrycot. 9 00:02:34,170 --> 00:02:35,793 You all right, love? 10 00:02:37,545 --> 00:02:39,038 Yeah? 11 00:02:42,587 --> 00:02:44,129 Put her down. 12 00:02:46,378 --> 00:02:48,295 There you go. 13 00:02:48,295 --> 00:02:50,629 You'll be able to see her tomorrow. 14 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:53,462 I'll take you to her and you'll be able to see that she's fine. 15 00:02:53,462 --> 00:02:55,452 Whoa, darling. 16 00:03:00,712 --> 00:03:01,795 Don't! 17 00:03:01,795 --> 00:03:04,629 Don't! Please! Margaret, please! 18 00:03:04,629 --> 00:03:06,952 I'll do better, I will! 19 00:03:16,754 --> 00:03:18,587 The thing I love about this group 20 00:03:18,587 --> 00:03:20,879 is that you don't have to explain yourself here. 21 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:23,171 We've all been adopted as kids 22 00:03:23,171 --> 00:03:26,421 and OK, we've all had different experiences after that, 23 00:03:26,421 --> 00:03:29,750 but it's a big bottom line, isn't it? 24 00:03:29,795 --> 00:03:33,244 Anyway, I'm glad to be here tonight. I don't mind telling you. 25 00:03:33,296 --> 00:03:35,417 I've been getting a lot of grief at work. 26 00:03:35,463 --> 00:03:38,330 Things have been getting me down, really. 27 00:03:38,379 --> 00:03:41,496 Been feeling a bit, a bit lonely. 28 00:03:41,546 --> 00:03:44,544 You know, when you always think 29 00:03:44,588 --> 00:03:48,000 is it because of what happened when I was a kid? 30 00:03:48,046 --> 00:03:51,162 You know, maybe I'll never be right. 31 00:03:51,212 --> 00:03:54,294 But you can't always know that, can you? 32 00:03:54,338 --> 00:03:57,289 You just... you just always wonder... 33 00:04:07,504 --> 00:04:09,379 Is this where the Triangle Group is? 34 00:04:09,379 --> 00:04:11,880 Yes, that's right, but we've finished for the night. 35 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,713 Charlotte. Charlotte Cooper. 36 00:04:13,713 --> 00:04:16,463 Can I have a quick word? It won't take a minute. 37 00:04:16,463 --> 00:04:19,546 Well, what you're looking for isn't really what this group does. 38 00:04:19,546 --> 00:04:21,921 This is a local support group, really. 39 00:04:21,921 --> 00:04:25,588 I might be able to refer you to somebody who'd be able to offer you counselling. 40 00:04:25,588 --> 00:04:28,047 I don't want counselling. I want to find out who I am. 41 00:04:28,047 --> 00:04:29,796 Well, this isn't really the way to... 42 00:04:29,796 --> 00:04:32,379 I don't even know if my name and birth date are right. 43 00:04:32,379 --> 00:04:35,838 I remember leaving England - I was four years old - 44 00:04:35,838 --> 00:04:38,713 I was in a children's home because my parents were dead. 45 00:04:38,713 --> 00:04:41,213 They sent me in a boat to Australia. 46 00:04:41,213 --> 00:04:44,047 All I know for certain is I was born in Nottingham. 47 00:04:44,047 --> 00:04:46,213 What do you mean they put you on a boat? 48 00:04:46,213 --> 00:04:48,963 They put us all on a boat for Oz. Hundreds of us. 49 00:04:48,963 --> 00:04:51,422 Your adoptive parents were emigrating? 50 00:04:51,422 --> 00:04:53,130 No. No parents, no guardians. 51 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:55,880 Just a couple of hundred kids, they sent us away. 52 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,005 - That can't be right. - What do you mean? 53 00:04:58,005 --> 00:05:01,422 It's simply not legal. There's no way a group of unaccompanied children 54 00:05:01,422 --> 00:05:04,585 would be shipped off like that. - You calling me a liar? 55 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:06,206 No, of course not. 56 00:05:06,255 --> 00:05:08,293 That is the one thing I know... 57 00:05:08,339 --> 00:05:10,213 I know about who I am. 58 00:05:10,213 --> 00:05:12,005 Don't you tell me that's not true. 59 00:05:12,005 --> 00:05:13,671 OK, look. I can see you're upset. 60 00:05:13,671 --> 00:05:16,297 Why don't you come to my office on another day? 61 00:05:16,297 --> 00:05:21,130 Take this. That's my name, that's all I've got to tell anyone where I've come from. 62 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:23,339 It is 10:30 at night-- 63 00:05:23,339 --> 00:05:26,339 I can't find anything else. I've tried everything. 64 00:05:26,339 --> 00:05:27,921 I've been everywhere. 65 00:05:27,921 --> 00:05:30,672 Now, my time's running out. I'm flying back... 66 00:05:30,672 --> 00:05:35,464 So you have a look, and you write and tell me how wrong I am. 67 00:05:35,464 --> 00:05:38,711 You come 10,000 miles to find home, they call you a liar. 68 00:05:41,213 --> 00:05:42,671 Wait. 69 00:05:45,756 --> 00:05:48,047 You're not a bloody saint, You were tired. 70 00:05:48,047 --> 00:05:50,536 Yeah, I know, but I should have seen it coming. 71 00:05:50,589 --> 00:05:52,626 You can't always see it coming. 72 00:05:52,672 --> 00:05:56,084 - Why's Ben out of bed? - Oh, hello, miss. Ben spilled his juice. 73 00:05:56,130 --> 00:05:59,496 - It wasn't my fault. - What are you doing out of bed? 74 00:05:59,547 --> 00:06:01,787 I can't sleep. Can I read? 75 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,749 No. Go on, go back up to bed and I'll come tuck you up in a minute. 76 00:06:05,797 --> 00:06:07,835 It's not fair, I'm older than him. 77 00:06:07,881 --> 00:06:09,964 - Happens all the time. - Come on, up you go. 78 00:06:09,964 --> 00:06:12,756 I just hope I did the right thing. 79 00:06:12,756 --> 00:06:15,505 Margaret, we're social workers. There's no right thing. 80 00:06:15,505 --> 00:06:18,714 There's social-work practice, court decisions... 81 00:06:18,714 --> 00:06:20,714 My professional judgment. 82 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:23,464 Which means that sometimes you're doing the right thing, 83 00:06:23,464 --> 00:06:25,464 and sometimes you're oppressing the poor 84 00:06:25,464 --> 00:06:28,298 with the middle-class values of a reactionary government. 85 00:06:28,298 --> 00:06:30,672 Don't make that face at me. Kiss from Mummy. 86 00:06:30,672 --> 00:06:33,381 Sometimes, you're just tired. 87 00:06:33,381 --> 00:06:35,672 Ooh, you're heavy. Now, then. 88 00:06:39,756 --> 00:06:41,297 Mum? 89 00:06:43,089 --> 00:06:44,547 Mum? 90 00:07:00,506 --> 00:07:02,590 Had bad dream. 91 00:07:02,590 --> 00:07:04,839 Oh, sweetie. You OK? 92 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,381 What happened? 93 00:07:06,381 --> 00:07:09,715 It was a long, long tunnel thing and I couldn't... 94 00:07:09,715 --> 00:07:12,006 You couldn't what? 95 00:07:12,006 --> 00:07:14,757 Couldn't get out and I couldn't find you. 96 00:07:14,757 --> 00:07:16,423 Darling, I'm here. 97 00:07:16,423 --> 00:07:17,798 I lost you. 98 00:07:17,798 --> 00:07:20,715 Oh, sweetie. I'm here now. I'm not going anywhere, OK? 99 00:07:20,715 --> 00:07:22,922 All right? 100 00:07:22,922 --> 00:07:24,748 You going to go back to sleep? 101 00:07:27,923 --> 00:07:29,464 All right. 102 00:08:10,673 --> 00:08:14,004 - I think you have to talk about it. - Exactly. 103 00:08:14,049 --> 00:08:16,170 I only told my husband just this last year. 104 00:08:16,215 --> 00:08:18,040 Good for you. 105 00:08:18,090 --> 00:08:19,832 What do you think, Nicky? 106 00:08:19,882 --> 00:08:25,506 Um, well, I know what you mean, but sometimes I think it sounds stupid 107 00:08:25,506 --> 00:08:27,715 if I told everyone what was bothering me. 108 00:08:27,715 --> 00:08:30,007 What is it? 109 00:08:30,007 --> 00:08:32,215 Um... 110 00:08:32,215 --> 00:08:34,632 It's my brother, my brother Jack. 111 00:08:34,632 --> 00:08:36,382 Uh... 112 00:08:36,382 --> 00:08:38,757 I don't really see him, you see. 113 00:08:38,757 --> 00:08:41,542 Do you want to tell everyone who Jack is, Nicky? 114 00:08:43,299 --> 00:08:45,132 Mmm... 115 00:08:45,132 --> 00:08:47,123 Uh, yeah. 116 00:08:58,299 --> 00:09:00,704 - That's my brother, Jack. - That's lovely. 117 00:09:03,507 --> 00:09:05,965 He found me a few years ago. 118 00:09:05,965 --> 00:09:07,965 Um... 119 00:09:07,965 --> 00:09:10,424 Just got a letter out of the blue. 120 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:13,174 'Dear Nicky, I think I may be your brother Jack.' 121 00:09:13,174 --> 00:09:15,544 And he was. 122 00:09:16,633 --> 00:09:18,674 Well, soon as I saw him, I knew. 123 00:09:18,674 --> 00:09:20,215 I mean... 124 00:09:20,215 --> 00:09:22,924 I remembered. That's right. 125 00:09:22,924 --> 00:09:25,966 Once upon a time, I used to have a brother. 126 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:28,424 So where is he? 127 00:09:28,424 --> 00:09:31,716 Australia. 128 00:09:31,716 --> 00:09:34,174 Can you believe it? 129 00:09:34,174 --> 00:09:36,841 It was the Sally Army who found me for him. 130 00:09:36,841 --> 00:09:41,091 They'd taken us both in and put me in my first foster home 131 00:09:41,091 --> 00:09:43,091 and shipped Jack off to Australia. 132 00:09:43,091 --> 00:09:45,216 So, uh... 133 00:09:45,216 --> 00:09:49,175 I mean, I know I have family, I suppose, 134 00:09:49,175 --> 00:09:54,376 but he's so far away, and sometimes it's hard to feel... 135 00:09:59,258 --> 00:10:02,042 Anyway. 136 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:05,674 So was he adopted by an Australian family? 137 00:10:05,674 --> 00:10:08,080 Uh, no. No. 138 00:10:08,133 --> 00:10:10,289 It was just kids, Jack said. 139 00:10:10,342 --> 00:10:14,287 A big ship full of kids from 5 to 13, 140 00:10:14,342 --> 00:10:17,542 all being sent off to Australia. 141 00:10:17,591 --> 00:10:19,831 You never told me that bit, Nicky. 142 00:10:19,883 --> 00:10:23,876 - Didn't I? - Well, that's what happened. 143 00:10:32,592 --> 00:10:34,924 Could still all be just coincidence. 144 00:10:34,924 --> 00:10:36,832 Do you think so? 145 00:10:38,383 --> 00:10:41,508 Well, if children did emigrate to Australia in any numbers, 146 00:10:41,508 --> 00:10:43,214 there must be some record of them, 147 00:10:58,592 --> 00:11:01,258 I was just wondering if you had any records 148 00:11:01,258 --> 00:11:03,216 of any unaccompanied children 149 00:11:03,216 --> 00:11:05,925 sent to Australia in the 1940s and '50s. 150 00:11:05,925 --> 00:11:08,759 I don't think we ever had those records in Australia House. 151 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:11,925 So there were children sent out there? 152 00:11:11,925 --> 00:11:14,508 Um, do you know how many? 153 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:17,051 When? Why were they sent? 154 00:11:17,051 --> 00:11:18,925 I've already told you. 155 00:11:18,925 --> 00:11:21,342 We don't have any more information. 156 00:11:21,342 --> 00:11:23,425 So who would know? 157 00:11:23,425 --> 00:11:25,925 Why don't you ask your own government? 158 00:11:25,925 --> 00:11:28,165 They're the ones who sent the kids out there. 159 00:11:29,217 --> 00:11:31,592 I know, I couldn't believe it. 160 00:11:31,592 --> 00:11:34,592 I mean, I was still half thinking that the story couldn't be true 161 00:11:34,592 --> 00:11:36,217 and he just came out with it. 162 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:38,007 Yeah. 163 00:11:39,051 --> 00:11:40,925 No, no. I think I'm going to... 164 00:11:40,925 --> 00:11:43,009 I think I'm going to still get the later train 165 00:11:43,009 --> 00:11:45,176 and I'm going to try St. Catherine's House now. 166 00:11:45,176 --> 00:11:48,423 See if I can find Charlotte's birth certificate. 167 00:11:52,301 --> 00:11:54,592 If I can get her mother's name off that, 168 00:11:54,592 --> 00:11:56,550 then I can probably find out when she died, 169 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:59,039 and then when Charlotte was placed in an orphanage. 170 00:12:01,925 --> 00:12:03,797 we can start to trace her journey. 171 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:18,207 Maybe get some clues about why Nicky's brother was sent away as well. 172 00:13:04,052 --> 00:13:05,926 Charlotte's mother wasn't dead. 173 00:13:05,926 --> 00:13:08,384 Lovely to see you, Merv. How was your day? 174 00:13:08,384 --> 00:13:11,093 Charlotte said she was in an orphanage in 1950 175 00:13:11,093 --> 00:13:12,843 because both her parents were dead. 176 00:13:12,843 --> 00:13:16,177 Well, I found a record of a woman with her mother's name 177 00:13:16,177 --> 00:13:19,384 who got married in Nottingham in 1956, 178 00:13:19,384 --> 00:13:23,177 not dead, very much alive and eating wedding cake. 179 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:25,010 Might not be the same woman. 180 00:13:25,010 --> 00:13:26,760 I've ordered up the certificate 181 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,843 but why would Charlotte have been sent if she wasn't an orphan? 182 00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:34,260 So if her mother was alive in '56, she might still be alive. 183 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:37,093 - I know. - So you going to follow that up? 184 00:13:37,093 --> 00:13:40,873 Well, I'll find the address on the certificate and follow the trail from there. 185 00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:05,552 Do you think it's her? 186 00:14:05,552 --> 00:14:08,218 About the right age. 187 00:14:14,010 --> 00:14:15,883 Hello, Vera. Yeah, not bad. And you? 188 00:14:19,302 --> 00:14:21,008 Is that the time already? 189 00:14:23,135 --> 00:14:24,385 Thanks. 190 00:14:24,385 --> 00:14:25,926 Hang on, I'll finish that up. 191 00:14:32,093 --> 00:14:34,177 Excuse me, are you Vera Wilson? 192 00:14:34,177 --> 00:14:35,802 That's me. How can I help you, love? 193 00:14:35,802 --> 00:14:39,260 I was wondering if I could have a word with you in private. 194 00:14:39,260 --> 00:14:41,594 It's something personal. 195 00:14:41,594 --> 00:14:44,510 I'll take you through. What's it about? 196 00:14:44,510 --> 00:14:46,797 It's about your family. 197 00:14:50,427 --> 00:14:52,750 Oh, my God. 198 00:14:55,886 --> 00:14:57,677 I knew you'd come one day. 199 00:14:57,677 --> 00:14:59,303 It's you, isn't it? You're my baby. 200 00:14:59,303 --> 00:15:02,254 No, Vera, I'm a social worker. 201 00:15:04,844 --> 00:15:07,011 Do you know where our baby is? 202 00:15:07,011 --> 00:15:10,590 Let's go somewhere where we can talk, in private. 203 00:15:25,761 --> 00:15:27,428 Where is she? 204 00:15:27,428 --> 00:15:29,797 Does she have a family? 205 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:33,219 Is she happy? 206 00:15:33,219 --> 00:15:36,178 Charlotte's in Australia. 207 00:15:36,178 --> 00:15:40,468 She grew up in a children's home in Australia. 208 00:15:42,219 --> 00:15:44,053 In Australia? 209 00:15:44,053 --> 00:15:47,300 What was she doing over there? 210 00:15:50,969 --> 00:15:53,589 What was she doing in a children's home? 211 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,136 I went back to get her 212 00:15:58,136 --> 00:16:00,340 and they told me she'd been adopted. 213 00:16:03,428 --> 00:16:05,803 I went back to get her. 214 00:16:05,803 --> 00:16:09,345 They told me she was better off. 215 00:16:09,345 --> 00:16:11,678 She was in a real family. 216 00:16:11,678 --> 00:16:17,177 What's she doing in a children's home on the other side of the world? 217 00:16:40,595 --> 00:16:43,345 This flight is now closed and will depart. 218 00:16:43,345 --> 00:16:45,301 Final call for British Airways... 219 00:16:48,262 --> 00:16:50,179 All right, let me take that. 220 00:16:50,179 --> 00:16:52,678 - How was your flight? - All right. 221 00:16:52,678 --> 00:16:54,799 We'll go out this way to the car. 222 00:16:56,553 --> 00:16:58,757 You ready for tonight? 223 00:17:12,928 --> 00:17:15,554 That's, uh, my mother. 224 00:17:15,554 --> 00:17:17,592 Your grandmother. 225 00:17:19,554 --> 00:17:22,042 She was very strict, you know. 226 00:17:29,012 --> 00:17:32,674 Well, you've got to understand how things were 40 years ago. 227 00:17:34,471 --> 00:17:38,251 No-one wanted... the shame. 228 00:17:39,928 --> 00:17:42,012 It was such a scandal. 229 00:17:42,012 --> 00:17:45,627 Mother wouldn't have me in the house. 230 00:17:58,679 --> 00:18:01,429 They took my baby away from me at the hostel 231 00:18:01,429 --> 00:18:06,179 and I tried to visit. 232 00:18:06,179 --> 00:18:12,377 And then one day they said she'd gone. 233 00:18:14,429 --> 00:18:16,301 You had gone. 234 00:18:22,138 --> 00:18:24,304 I kept this for you. 235 00:18:24,304 --> 00:18:26,425 In case. 236 00:18:29,096 --> 00:18:31,419 Well, I always kept it. 237 00:19:04,929 --> 00:19:07,597 I'm up to my eyes at work. 238 00:19:07,638 --> 00:19:09,179 I know. 239 00:19:09,221 --> 00:19:11,259 And we can't afford it. 240 00:19:11,305 --> 00:19:13,011 I know. 241 00:19:13,055 --> 00:19:14,762 And the kids? 242 00:19:14,804 --> 00:19:17,258 We'll be fine here. 243 00:19:47,014 --> 00:19:49,014 Hey. 244 00:19:49,014 --> 00:19:51,597 Oh! 245 00:19:51,597 --> 00:19:53,638 - Nice to see you. - You too. 246 00:19:53,638 --> 00:19:57,056 Uh, Margaret. This is my brother, Jack. 247 00:19:57,056 --> 00:20:00,056 It's very nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. 248 00:20:00,056 --> 00:20:02,597 Good to meet you too. How was the flight? 249 00:20:02,597 --> 00:20:05,056 Uh, yeah, good. 250 00:20:05,056 --> 00:20:06,797 Get these into the car. 251 00:20:10,722 --> 00:20:12,388 - You all right? - Yeah. 252 00:20:12,388 --> 00:20:14,930 Still OK to come to the reunion tomorrow? 253 00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:17,805 - Yeah Yeah, of course. - You must be tired. 254 00:20:17,805 --> 00:20:20,092 Yeah, a little bit. 255 00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:37,597 So we are delighted 256 00:20:37,597 --> 00:20:42,431 to see our usual wonderful turnout of former Fairbridge residents. 257 00:20:42,431 --> 00:20:46,014 This is a nostalgic and happy day for all of us. 258 00:20:46,014 --> 00:20:50,257 Now, just before I go, this is Mrs. Humphreys, 259 00:20:50,306 --> 00:20:52,343 who has come all the way from England 260 00:20:52,389 --> 00:20:56,097 to join one of our old Fairbridgians at the reunion today. 261 00:20:56,097 --> 00:20:58,965 She'd love to hear any stories you have about your time here, 262 00:20:59,014 --> 00:21:01,717 so do take the time to talk to her, if you can. 263 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:07,014 Hello, my name's Margaret Humphreys. 264 00:21:07,014 --> 00:21:10,139 I was recently contacted by a woman 265 00:21:10,139 --> 00:21:13,264 who was sent here to Australia as a child 266 00:21:13,264 --> 00:21:16,222 and has lost all contact with her family in England. 267 00:21:16,222 --> 00:21:19,838 And I'm here today to see if any of you are in the same position. 268 00:21:21,014 --> 00:21:23,848 If you want to talk to me, just come and find me later. 269 00:21:23,848 --> 00:21:25,091 All right. Thank you. 270 00:21:27,389 --> 00:21:31,264 So is this all there is, the bunkhouses, the farm buildings? 271 00:21:31,264 --> 00:21:33,514 What about the school? 272 00:21:33,514 --> 00:21:38,302 Well, you only got to go to school if you finished your farm work first. 273 00:21:40,348 --> 00:21:43,844 Jack told me some stories about this place, didn't you, Jack? 274 00:21:45,848 --> 00:21:48,057 Food was terrible, wasn't it? 275 00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:50,473 What was it you used to have, Jack? 276 00:21:50,473 --> 00:21:54,556 You could always tell the Fairbridge kids 277 00:21:54,556 --> 00:21:58,265 because they were the ones nicking the other kids' lunch boxes. 278 00:21:58,265 --> 00:22:01,349 Do you know if all the other children 279 00:22:01,349 --> 00:22:03,640 were sent out from Britain, the same as you? 280 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,015 I don't know, I don't know. 281 00:22:06,015 --> 00:22:07,973 Do you know who sent you? 282 00:22:07,973 --> 00:22:11,587 - It's a bit hot. I'll be out by the bus. - Yeah. 283 00:22:15,057 --> 00:22:16,597 Sorry, Margaret. 284 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:27,182 This woman you were talking about. 285 00:22:27,182 --> 00:22:29,848 - Did you find any family for her? - Yes. 286 00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:35,515 She was told that her mother was dead but we found her. 287 00:22:35,515 --> 00:22:38,140 - You found her mother? - Yes. 288 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:41,015 Do you think I've got a mother? 289 00:22:41,015 --> 00:22:43,557 Everybody's got a mother. 290 00:22:43,557 --> 00:22:45,807 - What year? - What year are we talking about? 291 00:23:04,057 --> 00:23:05,974 Sorry to keep you waiting. 292 00:23:05,974 --> 00:23:08,265 Any records of who the child migrants were 293 00:23:08,265 --> 00:23:11,631 would be back in the UK or with local state authorities. 294 00:23:19,349 --> 00:23:20,546 More. 295 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:27,255 Oh, there's so many of them. 296 00:23:30,474 --> 00:23:34,224 These migrations - were they organised schemes? 297 00:23:34,224 --> 00:23:37,305 I can't tell you, really. It's not my area, I'm afraid. 298 00:23:39,224 --> 00:23:41,266 So, why have I never heard about it? 299 00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:44,932 Why has no-one ever heard about it? 300 00:23:44,932 --> 00:23:47,599 I don't suppose anyone was really that interested. 301 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:51,636 Stay there while I get a view of you two. 302 00:23:55,266 --> 00:23:56,806 What's up, Jack? 303 00:24:01,682 --> 00:24:03,756 I can't stand Mother's Day. 304 00:24:09,308 --> 00:24:10,891 Get the same feeling every year, 305 00:24:10,891 --> 00:24:13,058 like someone's twisting a knife inside me. 306 00:24:13,058 --> 00:24:15,807 So, normally I stay inside on that day and I draw the blinds 307 00:24:15,807 --> 00:24:17,348 and I let the phone ring. 308 00:24:21,683 --> 00:24:24,350 I was married, you know. I've got three kids. 309 00:24:26,391 --> 00:24:28,224 I never knew what was wrong with me. 310 00:24:28,224 --> 00:24:30,558 You know, I'd think about my mother all the time, 311 00:24:30,558 --> 00:24:32,141 but I could never talk about it. 312 00:24:32,141 --> 00:24:33,683 How can you talk about someone 313 00:24:33,683 --> 00:24:35,757 when you've been told they don't even exist? 314 00:24:37,475 --> 00:24:39,558 I went to see this doctor. 315 00:24:39,558 --> 00:24:42,725 He put me on antidepressants. 316 00:24:42,725 --> 00:24:47,058 That didn't really help, so I saved them up, 317 00:24:47,058 --> 00:24:49,297 I saved them all up and then... 318 00:24:53,558 --> 00:24:55,808 I mean, it wasn't my wife's fault, you know. 319 00:24:55,808 --> 00:24:57,348 There's a... 320 00:24:59,391 --> 00:25:01,512 ..there's an emptiness in me. 321 00:25:03,059 --> 00:25:06,475 There always has been and I think... I thought... 322 00:25:06,475 --> 00:25:11,184 I think that the only thing that could fill it is her, you know? 323 00:25:11,184 --> 00:25:14,762 - Is my mother. - Jack! Jack! 324 00:25:21,558 --> 00:25:23,433 There's a very strong memory. 325 00:25:23,433 --> 00:25:26,799 I was in the children's home in the UK... I was only ten. 326 00:25:28,475 --> 00:25:31,975 This man in a suit, he came to see me and he says, 327 00:25:31,975 --> 00:25:35,600 'How'd you like to go to Australia? The sun shines every day. 328 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,767 You'd live in a white house, ride a horse to school 329 00:25:39,767 --> 00:25:43,298 and you'd pick oranges off the trees for your breakfast.' 330 00:25:45,351 --> 00:25:47,142 When I didn't say anything, he says, 331 00:25:47,142 --> 00:25:53,802 'Well, your mother's dead, you know, so you might as well.' 332 00:25:57,392 --> 00:25:59,017 So... 333 00:25:59,017 --> 00:26:03,267 Now you're telling me that she might not have been dead, after all. 334 00:26:03,267 --> 00:26:07,850 No, I can't say that, Jack... We just don't know. 335 00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:10,933 What we can do is we can search for her records 336 00:26:10,933 --> 00:26:12,971 and see what we can find. 337 00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:17,601 I don't know. Of course, of course. I don't know. 338 00:26:17,601 --> 00:26:19,638 You found your sister. 339 00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:24,264 She was so happy to see you, you know. 340 00:26:30,142 --> 00:26:31,968 Nicky trusts you. 341 00:26:35,517 --> 00:26:39,049 And I reckon I... I think I should too. 342 00:26:41,768 --> 00:26:43,308 There she is. 343 00:26:47,309 --> 00:26:49,392 Hello, sweetie. 344 00:26:49,392 --> 00:26:51,143 Hello, darling. 345 00:26:51,143 --> 00:26:54,143 Good to see you. How was the plane? 346 00:26:54,143 --> 00:26:56,768 It was all right, actually. Come on, guys. 347 00:26:56,768 --> 00:26:59,101 - Did you get any sleep? - Little bit, yeah. 348 00:26:59,101 --> 00:27:00,428 You all right? 349 00:27:01,476 --> 00:27:06,217 Oh, yeah. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. But I'm very happy to be home. 350 00:27:30,934 --> 00:27:34,226 That's what I found first. By then I was desperate. 351 00:27:34,226 --> 00:27:37,851 I've been searching court records, children's panel, minutes, you name it. 352 00:27:37,851 --> 00:27:39,643 No trace of the children anywhere. 353 00:27:39,643 --> 00:27:42,435 I was just looking through newspapers round about our date 354 00:27:42,435 --> 00:27:43,893 and that leapt out at me. 355 00:27:43,893 --> 00:27:45,934 Now you have the name of the organisation. 356 00:27:45,934 --> 00:27:48,226 - Fairbridge. - It wasn't just Fairbridge. 357 00:27:48,226 --> 00:27:50,727 All sorts of different charities ran these schemes. 358 00:27:50,727 --> 00:27:52,934 Churches, Barnardos. 359 00:27:52,934 --> 00:27:55,602 Children from deprived backgrounds, 360 00:27:55,602 --> 00:27:57,723 shipped off for a better life in the colonies. 361 00:28:00,268 --> 00:28:03,060 This is it. This is all fitting together. 362 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:05,769 The scheme was run from the 19th century 363 00:28:05,769 --> 00:28:08,101 'til - you won't believe this - 1970. 364 00:28:08,101 --> 00:28:10,976 But there was a wave of migrations to Australia 365 00:28:10,976 --> 00:28:13,060 between the mid-'50s and the mid-'60s. 366 00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:14,602 How big? How many kids? 367 00:28:14,602 --> 00:28:17,268 I don't know exactly but it must've been organised. 368 00:28:17,268 --> 00:28:19,769 I mean, organised at the level of government. 369 00:28:19,769 --> 00:28:24,435 These children were in care. Local authorities were their guardians. 370 00:28:24,435 --> 00:28:27,019 For so many of them to be systematically deported, 371 00:28:27,019 --> 00:28:28,935 it must have been government policy. 372 00:28:28,935 --> 00:28:32,310 The Home Secretary would have to consent to them leaving the country. 373 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:35,268 The Australian Government must've wanted to receive them. 374 00:28:35,268 --> 00:28:37,268 White Australia, I suppose. 375 00:28:37,268 --> 00:28:41,268 You're talking about the organised deportation of children in care. 376 00:28:41,268 --> 00:28:43,560 I don't have any concrete proof yet 377 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,102 but the evidence doesn't leave much room for doubt. 378 00:28:46,102 --> 00:28:50,352 So, who's taking responsibility for what happened to these children 379 00:28:50,352 --> 00:28:52,343 once they reached Australia? 380 00:28:55,643 --> 00:28:57,186 Oh, Merv. 381 00:28:57,186 --> 00:29:00,685 I've got the names of hundreds of people in my suitcase, 382 00:29:00,685 --> 00:29:02,477 who all want to know who they are. 383 00:29:02,477 --> 00:29:04,184 I know. 384 00:29:05,394 --> 00:29:07,799 Who do I ask? Where do I start? 385 00:29:12,186 --> 00:29:14,227 Are you going to look at all that stuff now? 386 00:29:14,227 --> 00:29:16,685 Jet lag. 387 00:29:16,685 --> 00:29:19,102 I thought you said you were working in the morning. 388 00:29:19,102 --> 00:29:21,637 I've got to. I've been summoned. 389 00:29:23,227 --> 00:29:24,341 Merv? 390 00:29:27,019 --> 00:29:29,769 I'm going to have to get back to Australia. 391 00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:33,976 Well, catch your breath first, eh? 392 00:29:43,144 --> 00:29:44,969 We can see you now. 393 00:29:50,645 --> 00:29:53,215 ..and sent it to the other department. 394 00:29:54,603 --> 00:29:58,182 Shut the door, please. To the other department? 395 00:30:00,686 --> 00:30:03,478 OK. Take a seat. 396 00:30:03,478 --> 00:30:05,302 Two weeks? 397 00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:10,346 OK. 398 00:30:13,603 --> 00:30:17,561 Well, as you know, Rita's filled me in with what you've been up to. 399 00:30:17,561 --> 00:30:18,728 I've read your report. 400 00:30:18,728 --> 00:30:21,519 Look, I just want to say that I have kept on top of my case load 401 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:24,478 and I went to Australia in my own time, that was my annual leave. 402 00:30:24,478 --> 00:30:27,062 - Well, I think that's appalling. - What? What is? 403 00:30:27,062 --> 00:30:30,519 That you had to use your own holiday to pursue this. 404 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,145 Oh. 405 00:30:32,145 --> 00:30:34,770 I'm taking this to the social services committee. 406 00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:39,473 Tell me. What is it you want to do? 407 00:30:42,062 --> 00:30:46,062 Well, uh, the people that I've met, 408 00:30:46,062 --> 00:30:49,270 they want to find a record of who they are. 409 00:30:49,270 --> 00:30:52,354 They just want to know where they came from. 410 00:30:52,354 --> 00:30:55,228 - What do you need? - Time. 411 00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:57,603 Time to find their families. 412 00:30:57,603 --> 00:30:59,520 How long? 413 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,061 Well... a year? 414 00:31:02,479 --> 00:31:04,312 How about two? 415 00:31:04,312 --> 00:31:08,187 Yes, that would be... 416 00:31:08,187 --> 00:31:10,676 I'll make a recommendation to the committee. 417 00:31:12,312 --> 00:31:18,479 So, are you talking about me working on this full-time? 418 00:31:18,479 --> 00:31:20,801 That is what you want, isn't it? 419 00:31:22,978 --> 00:31:26,936 Yes Yes, it is. 420 00:31:26,936 --> 00:31:31,520 Now, how are we going to fund you properly? 421 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,020 We're going to have raise your profile to try and get some public funding 422 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:37,896 and we need donations. 423 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,847 Have you thought about going to the press? 424 00:31:43,896 --> 00:31:45,352 Merv? 425 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,602 It's being printed in the papers in Sydney and Melbourne too. 426 00:32:03,063 --> 00:32:04,604 - They're all the same. - I know. 427 00:32:04,604 --> 00:32:07,354 'Dear Mrs. Humphreys, I read the article in the paper. 428 00:32:07,354 --> 00:32:09,270 Please could you help me find my mother? 429 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:12,186 I was sent to Australia in 1957. I have no birth certificate.' 430 00:32:14,979 --> 00:32:16,934 I'm in trouble, aren't I? 431 00:32:34,729 --> 00:32:37,727 Have I helped you understand all that, Bob? It's a lot to take in. 432 00:32:39,104 --> 00:32:41,480 They gave me the wrong name. 433 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,812 They'd given you the wrong name. 434 00:32:43,812 --> 00:32:46,763 That's why it's taking so long to find your birth certificate. 435 00:32:48,313 --> 00:32:52,480 So, which name do I use? 436 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,896 Who am I? 437 00:32:54,896 --> 00:32:57,104 You're the same person. 438 00:32:57,104 --> 00:32:59,979 But I've got the wrong name. 439 00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:04,055 You're using a different name from the name on your birth certificate. 440 00:33:07,271 --> 00:33:11,396 - Do you want to stop for a minute? - No. No, I'm good. 441 00:33:11,396 --> 00:33:14,430 So, what next? 442 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,267 Well, what would you like me to do next? 443 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:33,688 Thank you all very much for your patience, 444 00:33:33,688 --> 00:33:35,975 and I'll be with you as soon as I can. 445 00:33:42,105 --> 00:33:45,438 - I'm very sorry to keep you waiting. - Not a problem. I'm Dan. 446 00:33:45,438 --> 00:33:47,015 - Dan, please come in. 447 00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:53,980 Oh, I'm Len Connelly. I'm with Dan. 448 00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:56,220 Oh, nice to meet you. 449 00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:00,438 Well, I usually see people on their own, but uh... 450 00:34:00,438 --> 00:34:02,646 I'm moral support. 451 00:34:02,646 --> 00:34:05,272 Right, well, Dan, you'll be fine on your own 452 00:34:05,272 --> 00:34:06,897 but if that's what you want... 453 00:34:06,897 --> 00:34:08,980 - It's all right. - It's what he wants, yeah. 454 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:11,137 Well, nice to meet you, Mr. Connelly. 455 00:34:13,397 --> 00:34:16,596 - Uh... right. Shall we? - Yeah. 456 00:34:19,646 --> 00:34:23,272 So, I reckon if I do have any family, they might be around Doncaster. 457 00:34:23,272 --> 00:34:25,227 OK, right. Doncaster. 458 00:34:27,522 --> 00:34:30,564 Well, from what you've told me, 459 00:34:30,564 --> 00:34:34,272 I will be able to start to trace your mother's birth certificate. 460 00:34:34,272 --> 00:34:37,772 Oh, I've tried all of that. I've had the best in the business working on it. 461 00:34:37,772 --> 00:34:39,105 - Len. - Nothing. 462 00:34:39,105 --> 00:34:41,397 Can't be done. Cost me a few bob too. 463 00:34:41,397 --> 00:34:43,606 - Not that I'm short of a few bob... - Excuse me. 464 00:34:43,606 --> 00:34:45,813 I am trying to listen to Dan. 465 00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:48,230 Well, I reckon you need to see me, as well. 466 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:51,397 - Were you a child migrant too? - I've just told you that. 467 00:34:51,397 --> 00:34:55,105 Well, I'm sure that tracing your family is very important to you. 468 00:34:55,105 --> 00:34:58,105 But right now, this is Dan's time. 469 00:34:58,105 --> 00:35:01,606 OK, so there are three possibilities. 470 00:35:01,606 --> 00:35:05,939 We might be able to find your mother's birth certificate, 471 00:35:05,939 --> 00:35:10,356 and obviously that is what we want and what we're hoping for. 472 00:35:10,356 --> 00:35:17,023 We might find her and then discover that she's already passed away. 473 00:35:17,023 --> 00:35:23,522 We might... we might not have any luck. 474 00:35:23,522 --> 00:35:25,481 I'm really sorry. Excuse me? 475 00:35:25,481 --> 00:35:27,856 What are you doing? 476 00:35:27,856 --> 00:35:30,314 Could you put that down, please? 477 00:35:30,314 --> 00:35:32,230 I was checking what you're up to. 478 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:35,731 I'm sorry, but if you interrupt again, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. 479 00:35:35,731 --> 00:35:39,564 When are you going to see me? I've got documents the detectives found me. 480 00:35:39,564 --> 00:35:41,731 They never found my mother. 481 00:35:41,731 --> 00:35:45,898 Well, if the world's best private detectives weren't able to trace her, 482 00:35:45,898 --> 00:35:48,273 I'm not really sure what you expect me to do. 483 00:35:48,273 --> 00:35:51,519 Well, I thought you could give it a go. 484 00:35:54,148 --> 00:35:57,357 I'm afraid I have a backlog of people to see on this trip 485 00:35:57,357 --> 00:35:59,190 and I won't be able to fit you in. 486 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,273 But if you want to send me your documents, 487 00:36:01,273 --> 00:36:03,595 then I'll see what I can do. 488 00:36:05,939 --> 00:36:07,814 Right, now, Dan. 489 00:36:07,814 --> 00:36:12,315 What I'm going to need from you is any recollections that you have 490 00:36:12,315 --> 00:36:15,562 firstly from your early childhood... 491 00:36:19,023 --> 00:36:22,649 Well, you've certainly caused quite a stir, Mrs. Humphreys. 492 00:36:22,649 --> 00:36:24,315 There's been a lot of comments 493 00:36:24,315 --> 00:36:26,649 since you broke this story in the newspapers. 494 00:36:26,649 --> 00:36:29,065 Well, I didn't exactly break the story. 495 00:36:29,065 --> 00:36:30,565 People are saying 496 00:36:30,565 --> 00:36:33,148 what happened to some of these children is an outrage. 497 00:36:33,148 --> 00:36:34,814 Would you care to comment on that? 498 00:36:34,814 --> 00:36:38,440 - Well, I'd say it was, yes. - That's rather a strong word, though. 499 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,315 I met a woman recently who was sent to Australia at five years of age 500 00:36:43,315 --> 00:36:45,315 and she wanted me to tell you 501 00:36:45,315 --> 00:36:52,607 that she lived with 15 other girls in an unheated, unventilated hut 502 00:36:52,607 --> 00:36:55,815 for ten years, and during that time, 503 00:36:55,815 --> 00:36:58,899 her only possessions were one dress and one pair of shoes. 504 00:36:58,899 --> 00:37:01,607 And then at age 15, she was told 505 00:37:01,607 --> 00:37:04,273 that she had to repay her debt of board and lodging 506 00:37:04,273 --> 00:37:07,940 and she was sent to work as unpaid slave labour 507 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:10,899 on a farm that was 50 miles from the nearest road. 508 00:37:10,899 --> 00:37:13,940 - So what this-- - And in all that time, she never knew 509 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:16,690 that she had a mother still living in England 510 00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:20,107 who had no idea where she was or what had happened to her. 511 00:37:20,107 --> 00:37:22,899 I'd like to know what word you would use 512 00:37:22,899 --> 00:37:25,932 to describe what that mother and daughter suffered. 513 00:37:33,774 --> 00:37:35,565 Mrs. Humphreys! 514 00:37:35,565 --> 00:37:37,857 I've got to talk to you. 515 00:37:37,857 --> 00:37:40,857 I'd like to take you to dinner. My treat. My treat. 516 00:37:40,857 --> 00:37:43,607 - I can buy my own dinner, thanks. - Come on, what are you? 517 00:37:43,607 --> 00:37:46,232 - One of those lesbian socialists? - Shut up, Len. 518 00:37:46,232 --> 00:37:48,399 He's all right. Doesn't know what he's saying. 519 00:37:48,399 --> 00:37:50,354 - She's turned crimson. - He's all right. 520 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:55,804 - Hey, Mrs. Humphreys! - Mrs. Humphreys, I want an appointment. 521 00:38:09,732 --> 00:38:11,982 So, how long have you been doing this work? 522 00:38:11,982 --> 00:38:14,441 You know what? 523 00:38:14,441 --> 00:38:18,482 I've been cleaning floors for 40 years. 524 00:38:21,608 --> 00:38:25,358 First thing they did at Fairbridge when I came off the boat, 525 00:38:25,358 --> 00:38:27,441 put a mop in my hands. 526 00:38:27,441 --> 00:38:29,399 'Stop your crying and clean that floor.' 527 00:38:29,399 --> 00:38:31,022 How old were you? 528 00:38:33,024 --> 00:38:34,979 I was eight. 529 00:38:36,691 --> 00:38:38,608 I was crying too. 530 00:38:38,608 --> 00:38:41,608 Didn't need to put a bucket of water on the floor. 531 00:38:41,608 --> 00:38:43,931 I was dropping enough water on it. 532 00:38:45,483 --> 00:38:47,067 That was it. 533 00:38:47,067 --> 00:38:49,637 Scrubbing for 40 years. 534 00:38:52,149 --> 00:38:54,187 Sometimes... 535 00:38:55,566 --> 00:38:57,691 ..when I was shining up those floors, 536 00:38:57,691 --> 00:39:02,478 I'd think, 'I wonder what my old mum would think if she could see me now.' 537 00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:06,312 So you remember your mum? 538 00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:09,816 Of course. 539 00:39:09,816 --> 00:39:14,775 Course I do. Can't ever forget your mum, can you? 540 00:39:14,775 --> 00:39:18,223 Just don't know where she is. 541 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,524 He's been in and out of the hospital for years now, 542 00:39:23,524 --> 00:39:26,150 but we've never seen him the way he was the other night. 543 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:28,150 When your program went out on radio, 544 00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:31,025 he just... he just broke down, he just howled. 545 00:39:31,025 --> 00:39:33,484 And then all he wanted to do was get a hold of you. 546 00:39:33,484 --> 00:39:36,896 - I'm glad I could be here. - He's just over here. 547 00:39:38,359 --> 00:39:40,314 I was only three. 548 00:39:41,816 --> 00:39:44,648 Someone told me my parents were dead. 549 00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:48,941 Then I was on a boat coming here. 550 00:39:48,941 --> 00:39:51,726 I grew up in the orphanage. 551 00:39:59,192 --> 00:40:01,400 You don't want to hear this, Margaret. 552 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,149 Yes, I do. 553 00:40:05,692 --> 00:40:07,434 That's why I'm here. 554 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,817 It was Christmas, I was really excited. 555 00:40:45,817 --> 00:40:51,692 I... was about seven... 556 00:40:51,692 --> 00:40:53,317 ..by then. 557 00:40:53,317 --> 00:40:58,733 I had this wonderful singing voice, you see. 558 00:40:59,901 --> 00:41:04,360 Used to give concerts at the orphanage 559 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,484 and this... dentist and his wife 560 00:41:10,484 --> 00:41:16,650 asked if I'd come to their home for Christmas Eve 561 00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:20,568 and you know, sing for them. 562 00:41:27,526 --> 00:41:29,901 - Hello? - Hello. 563 00:41:29,901 --> 00:41:32,026 Oh, Merv. 564 00:41:32,026 --> 00:41:35,558 Thought I'd take a chance. Couldn't sleep. 565 00:41:37,817 --> 00:41:41,151 - What time is it there? - Three in the morning. 566 00:41:41,151 --> 00:41:46,360 - Just wondered if you were OK. - Oh, you know. Getting by. 567 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,901 - What's wrong? - Oh. 568 00:41:48,901 --> 00:41:54,860 It's just... some of the things that I'm hearing... 569 00:41:54,860 --> 00:41:58,401 Get an earlier flight. 570 00:41:58,401 --> 00:42:02,526 I'll come home just before Christmas, like I promised. 571 00:42:02,526 --> 00:42:04,109 It's only a week away, 572 00:42:04,109 --> 00:42:08,568 They were going to keep me over Christmas. 573 00:42:08,568 --> 00:42:13,225 I was going to get presents, proper Christmas dinner. 574 00:42:15,777 --> 00:42:17,276 Come here. 575 00:42:17,276 --> 00:42:19,318 They had a big party. 576 00:42:19,318 --> 00:42:22,860 I sang Ave Maria. 577 00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:28,062 The woman said I was a little angel. 578 00:42:32,110 --> 00:42:34,267 And the dentist... 579 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:43,651 ..dentist and two other men, they took me into the bathroom 580 00:42:43,651 --> 00:42:45,485 and uh, they... 581 00:42:45,485 --> 00:42:48,270 ..they... 582 00:43:13,818 --> 00:43:16,985 - What's wrong? - We can't have that. 583 00:43:16,985 --> 00:43:20,565 We can't have any of it! 584 00:43:21,902 --> 00:43:24,069 Margaret? Margaret! 585 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:25,611 Can't have this. 586 00:43:25,611 --> 00:43:29,817 - We can't have any of this. - Margaret. Hey, stop, stop! 587 00:43:36,235 --> 00:43:38,402 So, what do I tell Ben and Rachel? 588 00:43:38,402 --> 00:43:40,652 'Sorry, Christmas is cancelled.' 589 00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:44,693 Oh, Merv, I missed you. 590 00:43:45,903 --> 00:43:47,810 I missed you. 591 00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,402 I'm sorry. 592 00:43:52,402 --> 00:43:54,938 Really sorry. 593 00:43:58,653 --> 00:44:00,560 Christmas back on, then? 594 00:44:02,861 --> 00:44:06,226 As long as I don't have to do any bloody carol singing. 595 00:44:53,736 --> 00:44:55,445 Jack? 596 00:44:55,445 --> 00:44:57,694 Oh, my God! 597 00:44:57,694 --> 00:45:00,111 Well, I thought you'd never hurry up and find my mum 598 00:45:00,111 --> 00:45:02,647 unless I came and helped you out. 599 00:45:04,612 --> 00:45:06,362 Come in, come in. 600 00:45:06,362 --> 00:45:10,403 - So you just got here? - Yep, yep. 601 00:45:10,403 --> 00:45:11,731 Wow! 602 00:45:16,654 --> 00:45:18,403 OK. 603 00:45:18,403 --> 00:45:22,111 Going to this address. Map-reading? 604 00:45:22,111 --> 00:45:24,683 I think I can do that, yeah. 605 00:45:32,653 --> 00:45:37,070 Yeah, it's 71 Lord Nelson Street Thank you. 606 00:45:37,070 --> 00:45:41,195 Yeah, no. Well, I'd be grateful if she could give me a call. 607 00:45:41,195 --> 00:45:44,487 Yeah. It's Margaret Humphreys. 608 00:45:44,487 --> 00:45:46,945 Yes, yes, thank you. 609 00:46:20,862 --> 00:46:23,820 - So, where are we off to? - Right. 610 00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:28,321 We're picking up Nicky from work and we're driving to Tyneside. 611 00:46:28,321 --> 00:46:30,560 Righto. 612 00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:46,029 You're Jack? 613 00:46:46,029 --> 00:46:53,187 You're little Jack? Oh, my God. You used to sit on my lap. 614 00:46:54,696 --> 00:46:56,904 - You know me? - Yes. 615 00:46:56,904 --> 00:47:03,268 - You knew me when I was a little boy? - Yeah, yeah, I can see you now. 616 00:47:07,821 --> 00:47:09,444 And you're Nicky. 617 00:47:11,112 --> 00:47:14,738 - So you knew our mother? - Yeah. 618 00:47:14,738 --> 00:47:18,404 Oh, she was lovely. Where is she now? 619 00:47:18,404 --> 00:47:22,488 Well, we don't know. We lost her. 620 00:47:22,488 --> 00:47:26,237 We don't remember because we were in children's homes. 621 00:47:26,237 --> 00:47:30,231 - Oh, wait a minute, that can't be right. - What? 622 00:47:32,446 --> 00:47:36,863 Well, the woman I knew would never have put her children in a home. 623 00:47:36,863 --> 00:47:39,821 She lived for that little boy and girl. 624 00:47:39,821 --> 00:47:43,529 We think that maybe her relationship went down 625 00:47:43,529 --> 00:47:46,738 and she was on her own and she couldn't cope. 626 00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:49,529 No, she wouldn't have ever lost touch with her babies, 627 00:47:49,529 --> 00:47:51,946 not while there was breath in her body. 628 00:47:51,946 --> 00:47:56,568 Well, they sent us away, so she wouldn't have been able to find us. 629 00:47:58,863 --> 00:48:00,439 I see. 630 00:48:02,654 --> 00:48:05,605 Oh, that would have broken her into bits. 631 00:48:12,863 --> 00:48:14,569 What was she like? 632 00:48:15,988 --> 00:48:17,905 What did she look like? 633 00:48:17,905 --> 00:48:24,566 Let me think. She looked a bit like you, actually. 634 00:48:34,863 --> 00:48:36,946 And that was Margaret Humphreys 635 00:48:36,946 --> 00:48:38,405 from Nottingham in England. 636 00:48:38,405 --> 00:48:41,072 She's claiming thousands of kids had been deported 637 00:48:41,072 --> 00:48:43,197 without their parents' consent. 638 00:48:43,197 --> 00:48:44,946 Now we will be taking your calls. 639 00:48:44,946 --> 00:48:47,822 ..today denied allegations 640 00:48:47,822 --> 00:48:50,113 surrounding their children's home in Bindoon. 641 00:48:50,113 --> 00:48:52,155 The Brothers are refuting the claims... 642 00:48:52,155 --> 00:48:55,280 ..the British nor the government here in Australia 643 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,822 have taken any responsibility for this - 644 00:48:57,822 --> 00:49:00,697 how would you describe it - deportation? 645 00:49:00,697 --> 00:49:05,822 Yes, it's clearly the organised deportation of children 646 00:49:05,822 --> 00:49:07,739 from one country to another. 647 00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:11,697 And neither the charities nor the church organisations 648 00:49:11,697 --> 00:49:15,322 that ran those schemes have been prepared to admit 649 00:49:15,322 --> 00:49:19,565 - that any mistakes were made? - No. No, they haven't. 650 00:49:31,489 --> 00:49:33,323 How about a speech, Margaret? 651 00:49:33,323 --> 00:49:37,864 No, no, really. All right, thank you. 652 00:49:37,864 --> 00:49:41,405 Well, I want to say thank you to all of you. 653 00:49:41,405 --> 00:49:46,989 This is the proper launch of the Child Migrants Trust 654 00:49:46,989 --> 00:49:50,365 and it has a home now - this house. 655 00:49:50,365 --> 00:49:53,490 And without all of the donations and without all of you, 656 00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,655 none of this would have been possible. 657 00:49:55,655 --> 00:49:59,406 So, thank you for giving me an office in it. 658 00:49:59,406 --> 00:50:03,365 And I'm really glad I don't have to spend another day 659 00:50:03,365 --> 00:50:05,189 working in that hotel room. 660 00:50:15,156 --> 00:50:17,443 - Cup of tea? - Yes, thanks. 661 00:50:21,365 --> 00:50:25,031 I'm heading off. You know, long drive home. 662 00:50:25,031 --> 00:50:27,448 - Oh, are you sure, James? - Yeah. 663 00:50:27,448 --> 00:50:29,323 I don't really know any of these people. 664 00:50:29,323 --> 00:50:31,365 I'm sorry. I don't want to spoil your party. 665 00:50:31,365 --> 00:50:33,114 You don't know any of them? 666 00:50:33,114 --> 00:50:36,860 Well, yeah, yeah. I know the Bindoon boys, of course. 667 00:50:40,281 --> 00:50:42,272 - Right. - See you, Margaret. 668 00:50:57,740 --> 00:50:59,365 Margaret Humphreys. 669 00:50:59,365 --> 00:51:01,032 Listen, you bitch. 670 00:51:01,032 --> 00:51:04,823 You tell those whinging bastards to stop talking about Bindoon. 671 00:51:04,823 --> 00:51:07,199 If they tell one more lie about the Brothers, 672 00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:09,990 just one more, we're coming over there 673 00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:12,312 and I'll fucking finish you myself. 674 00:51:18,657 --> 00:51:22,656 Do you enjoy running this slanderous publicity machine of yours? 675 00:51:22,656 --> 00:51:25,823 I'm afraid I don't recognise that description of my work. 676 00:51:25,823 --> 00:51:29,573 I don't represent any newspaper or any television station. 677 00:51:29,573 --> 00:51:33,366 But you'll happily declare your wild allegations to any of them. 678 00:51:33,366 --> 00:51:35,948 I haven't made any direct allegations to the press. 679 00:51:35,948 --> 00:51:40,074 Some of the boys who were sent to your children's home at Bindoon 680 00:51:40,074 --> 00:51:42,740 chose to speak to the press when they were approached. 681 00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:45,773 But none of those contacts were initiated by me. 682 00:51:46,823 --> 00:51:51,658 Well, since you've stirred things up, 683 00:51:51,658 --> 00:51:56,865 the Christian Brothers have been forced to conduct an internal inquiry 684 00:51:56,865 --> 00:51:59,658 into the Boys Towns at Bindoon and elsewhere. 685 00:51:59,658 --> 00:52:01,532 Now, how have you any idea 686 00:52:01,532 --> 00:52:04,407 how much distress you have caused to elderly men 687 00:52:04,407 --> 00:52:06,032 who only sought the best? 688 00:52:06,032 --> 00:52:09,366 I'm hearing an awful lot about the distress caused to the Brothers. 689 00:52:09,366 --> 00:52:12,616 No-one's talking about the distress caused to the children 690 00:52:12,616 --> 00:52:15,020 who were supposed to be in their care. 691 00:52:24,074 --> 00:52:26,195 You're doing all right then, aren't you? 692 00:52:28,699 --> 00:52:30,939 They paying you OK, are they? 693 00:52:32,407 --> 00:52:36,650 This probably isn't the best way to start this conversation, is it? 694 00:52:38,407 --> 00:52:41,616 I don't think you like me very much, Mrs. Humphreys. 695 00:52:41,616 --> 00:52:44,991 All right, I'll be honest with you, then. 696 00:52:44,991 --> 00:52:48,783 I don't know about the man sitting opposite me. 697 00:52:48,783 --> 00:52:52,908 But I'm sure that there's a hurt little boy somewhere inside 698 00:52:52,908 --> 00:52:54,449 that I'd like very much. 699 00:52:54,449 --> 00:52:57,068 We're just going to have to take the time to find him. 700 00:52:58,491 --> 00:53:03,942 And how do I know that you're qualified to do that, Mrs. Humphreys? 701 00:53:07,075 --> 00:53:10,283 You'll have to make your own judgement on that, Mr. Connolly. 702 00:53:10,283 --> 00:53:12,854 You'll just have to trust me. 703 00:53:16,699 --> 00:53:21,274 It's, uh... That's Len Connolly's first step on Australia over there. 704 00:53:24,991 --> 00:53:27,741 Then we were processed in here. 705 00:53:27,741 --> 00:53:31,783 All these little kids quakin' and shakin' 706 00:53:31,783 --> 00:53:34,485 and wondering what on earth they'd been dropped into. 707 00:53:35,575 --> 00:53:39,075 Brothers were sent one way, sisters another. 708 00:53:39,075 --> 00:53:41,617 They were all crying into their sleeves, thinking, 709 00:53:41,617 --> 00:53:43,903 'God. It can't be this hot all the time, can it?' 710 00:53:47,492 --> 00:53:50,116 Then we were put on the buses out here. 711 00:53:50,116 --> 00:53:51,991 It was when I was shoved onto one of them, 712 00:53:51,991 --> 00:53:54,158 I realised Theresa wasn't coming with us. 713 00:53:54,158 --> 00:53:58,075 She was, um, one of the girls who looked after us on the way over. 714 00:53:58,075 --> 00:54:00,033 She'd taken a shine to me. 715 00:54:00,033 --> 00:54:03,241 Yeah, I was just a little scrap, you know? 716 00:54:03,241 --> 00:54:05,700 She made a bit of a pet of me on the voyage over. 717 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:08,533 I think I charmed her. 718 00:54:08,533 --> 00:54:12,450 So when I realised Theresa wasn't coming, I went crazy. 719 00:54:12,450 --> 00:54:15,575 I was bloody fighting to get to the back. 720 00:54:15,575 --> 00:54:18,490 I was climbing over everything, trying to get to her. 721 00:54:23,367 --> 00:54:26,909 Anyway, by the end of that day, I was with the Christian Brothers. 722 00:54:26,909 --> 00:54:29,325 They'd taken all my clothes. 723 00:54:29,325 --> 00:54:32,408 They gave me an old shirt and a pair of shorts to wear and, uh... 724 00:54:32,408 --> 00:54:36,568 I was cleaning out the rubbish pit at Bindoon. 725 00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:39,735 Yeah. 726 00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:44,867 Yeah, come on. 727 00:54:44,867 --> 00:54:48,326 We don't need to talk about that. I just want to find my mother. That's it. 728 00:54:48,326 --> 00:54:51,368 Help me with that if you can. I don't need anything else. 729 00:54:51,368 --> 00:54:54,159 I'm not offering anything else. That's not my place. 730 00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:58,492 All I'm asking is have you imagined what it might be like if we do find her? 731 00:54:58,492 --> 00:55:00,784 Well, let's just find her first, all right? 732 00:55:00,784 --> 00:55:03,533 OK, we'll try, but what do you want? 733 00:55:03,533 --> 00:55:05,784 To find her, to know who she is. 734 00:55:05,784 --> 00:55:07,658 You know? To know who I am. 735 00:55:07,658 --> 00:55:10,576 You've got absolutely no hopes or expectations beyond that? 736 00:55:10,576 --> 00:55:13,326 Look, Mrs. Humphreys... Thanks, mate. 737 00:55:13,326 --> 00:55:16,451 I'm sure that you see old boys and girls day in, day out, 738 00:55:16,451 --> 00:55:20,117 bawling their eyes out, telling you how much they miss their dear old mum. 739 00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:23,326 Well, the truth is, our mums shot through, didn't they? 740 00:55:23,326 --> 00:55:27,242 We didn't just fall out of our prams and fly off with Peter Pan, did we? 741 00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:30,201 No, our mums didn't want us. That's why we're here. 742 00:55:30,201 --> 00:55:31,950 Isn't that the truth? 743 00:55:31,950 --> 00:55:36,242 No. The truth is actually much more complicated in most cases. 744 00:55:36,242 --> 00:55:38,826 No, she didn't want me. She put me in a children's home. 745 00:55:38,826 --> 00:55:40,368 Well, that's all right. 746 00:55:40,368 --> 00:55:42,034 Let's just put a face to the old dear. 747 00:55:42,034 --> 00:55:44,743 I can sit here all day if you like 748 00:55:44,743 --> 00:55:47,618 and plead on about what a hard life I had at Bindoon. 749 00:55:47,618 --> 00:55:50,868 All right, let's talk about Bindoon. 750 00:55:50,868 --> 00:55:55,701 Look, Mrs. Humphreys, I've paid my debts. 751 00:55:55,701 --> 00:55:59,326 I've sourced the Brothers' farm tools through my company. 752 00:55:59,326 --> 00:56:02,076 I've made donations to the Christian Brothers. 753 00:56:02,076 --> 00:56:03,576 I've paid my debts. 754 00:56:03,576 --> 00:56:05,576 Your debts? What do you owe them? 755 00:56:05,576 --> 00:56:06,868 Oh, I don't. 756 00:56:06,868 --> 00:56:09,660 Look, they raised me, fed me, clothed me, whatever, 757 00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:11,618 and I've paid it all back. 758 00:56:11,618 --> 00:56:16,242 I don't see how an eight-year-old boy, who's working to grow his own food, 759 00:56:16,242 --> 00:56:19,451 who has one pair of shorts, one shirt and no shoes, 760 00:56:19,451 --> 00:56:21,534 can be said to be running up much of a debt. 761 00:56:21,534 --> 00:56:23,743 Well, no-one can say I owe them anything. 762 00:56:23,743 --> 00:56:25,484 No, I don't think you do. 763 00:56:26,951 --> 00:56:30,317 But maybe that's the monster living in your head. 764 00:56:33,618 --> 00:56:35,701 I don't like the idea of you walking around 765 00:56:35,701 --> 00:56:37,941 with a monster like that in your head. 766 00:56:52,035 --> 00:56:53,575 Mummy! 767 00:57:07,452 --> 00:57:09,826 I'm afraid this won't do. 768 00:57:09,826 --> 00:57:12,785 I'm here to give somebody some really important news. 769 00:57:12,785 --> 00:57:15,452 They'll remember this day for the rest of their lives. 770 00:57:15,452 --> 00:57:18,320 Can you show me something else? 771 00:58:00,285 --> 00:58:02,276 Jack... Come in. 772 00:58:07,869 --> 00:58:09,409 Take a seat. 773 00:58:22,244 --> 00:58:24,116 That's... that's beautiful. 774 00:58:25,411 --> 00:58:26,654 Yes. 775 00:58:29,495 --> 00:58:33,952 So Merv telephoned me last night. 776 00:58:33,952 --> 00:58:37,283 And we've had the results of our latest search. 777 00:58:39,370 --> 00:58:41,744 Have you found my mother? 778 00:58:41,744 --> 00:58:43,403 Yes. 779 00:58:51,370 --> 00:58:53,952 We were too late. She's dead, isn't she? 780 00:58:53,952 --> 00:58:56,157 - Yes, she is. - Yeah. 781 00:59:16,661 --> 00:59:18,237 Uh... 782 00:59:23,078 --> 00:59:24,620 When did she die? 783 00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:27,286 Last year. 784 00:59:27,286 --> 00:59:29,029 Oh. 785 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,904 So we were just too late, then? 786 01:00:19,329 --> 01:00:22,120 Mrs. Humphreys, no-one is suggesting for a minute 787 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,787 that the people you represent have not suffered. 788 01:00:25,787 --> 01:00:30,371 But this has to be placed in its historical context. 789 01:00:30,371 --> 01:00:34,621 What was done was done with the very best intentions. 790 01:00:34,621 --> 01:00:38,329 These children were placed in children's homes. 791 01:00:38,329 --> 01:00:43,663 Without casting any blame, their family situations were far from ideal. 792 01:00:43,663 --> 01:00:46,621 A more modern sensibility might suggest 793 01:00:46,621 --> 01:00:49,704 greater effort should have been made to keep families together. 794 01:00:49,704 --> 01:00:53,621 But at the time, it was genuinely believed to be in the children's interests 795 01:00:53,621 --> 01:00:55,245 to give them a fresh start. 796 01:00:55,245 --> 01:00:59,037 Ultimately, these children were in the care of the British Government. 797 01:00:59,037 --> 01:01:01,829 And it was the Government of Australia and Britain 798 01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:04,746 who were responsible for authorising the migration schemes 799 01:01:04,746 --> 01:01:06,996 and if we're talking about historical context, 800 01:01:06,996 --> 01:01:10,245 I'll remind you the last migrants were only shipped out 17 years ago. 801 01:01:10,245 --> 01:01:13,871 But we're not here for recriminations. There's no need for that. 802 01:01:13,871 --> 01:01:16,871 Now the Child Migrants Trust has been created, 803 01:01:16,871 --> 01:01:21,954 we can offer you an opportunity to redress some of the damage 804 01:01:21,954 --> 01:01:24,905 for which your organisations were responsible. 805 01:01:26,788 --> 01:01:30,788 These people were deported as children, young children. 806 01:01:30,788 --> 01:01:35,080 They've been deprived of their family, their identity. 807 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,246 They need to find the families they lost. 808 01:01:39,246 --> 01:01:42,943 I know that you're all going to help them do that. 809 01:01:47,330 --> 01:01:52,163 I think my organisation would be prepared to make a contribution 810 01:01:52,163 --> 01:01:54,038 if some trustee arrangement... 811 01:01:54,038 --> 01:01:56,608 You can't be a trustee. 812 01:01:57,704 --> 01:02:02,497 We have to be able to say to these children - well, adults now - 813 01:02:02,497 --> 01:02:04,746 that they're safe. 814 01:02:04,746 --> 01:02:07,660 It has to be a neutral service. 815 01:02:09,580 --> 01:02:13,871 What we are offering you, the Government, 816 01:02:13,871 --> 01:02:19,163 is an opportunity to take responsibility for what happened to these children. 817 01:02:19,163 --> 01:02:22,954 If you could at least tell us whether you have any records of the child migrants 818 01:02:22,954 --> 01:02:24,913 to which you could give us access. 819 01:02:24,913 --> 01:02:28,747 .. over 100 years and I can assure you that we're doing everything... 820 01:02:28,747 --> 01:02:32,527 Look, they just want to know who they are! 821 01:02:47,789 --> 01:02:49,497 Well, we said it, didn't we? 822 01:02:49,497 --> 01:02:51,038 Oh, yes. 823 01:02:51,038 --> 01:02:53,747 Excuse me, Mrs. Humphreys. 824 01:02:53,747 --> 01:02:57,039 Can I just have a minute of your time? 825 01:02:57,039 --> 01:02:59,872 You say you're speaking as a mother. 826 01:02:59,872 --> 01:03:02,205 But please, take consolation in your own family 827 01:03:02,205 --> 01:03:03,955 rather than meddling with all this. 828 01:03:03,955 --> 01:03:05,955 I mean, how could you possibly understand 829 01:03:05,955 --> 01:03:08,705 the real circumstances of these unfortunate children? 830 01:03:08,705 --> 01:03:10,246 They were living in slums. 831 01:03:10,246 --> 01:03:12,497 They were children of drunks and degenerates. 832 01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:13,658 Come away, Margaret. 833 01:03:16,372 --> 01:03:19,622 So you don't accept the British Government has a case to answer? 834 01:03:19,622 --> 01:03:22,789 We have every sympathy with the feelings of child migrants. 835 01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:24,538 But you take no responsibility? 836 01:03:24,538 --> 01:03:26,538 We have no actual responsibility. 837 01:03:26,538 --> 01:03:29,122 Whatever Margaret Humphreys alleges, the fact is... 838 01:03:29,122 --> 01:03:32,081 They were the responsibility of the British Government. 839 01:03:32,081 --> 01:03:35,414 The fact is this may have been a distressing episode in history. 840 01:03:35,414 --> 01:03:37,705 But there's no profit in playing the blame game. 841 01:03:37,705 --> 01:03:39,622 Right. Well, thank you very much... 842 01:03:39,622 --> 01:03:41,830 We've got them rattled now. 843 01:03:41,830 --> 01:03:44,789 Legally, they're responsible. They know it, we know it. 844 01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:47,705 We find the paperwork, that nails them. They know we will. 845 01:03:47,705 --> 01:03:50,039 - They know the paperwork's out there. - Yeah. 846 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:53,122 I'm gonna find it, Margaret. You know I am. 847 01:03:53,122 --> 01:03:54,450 Yeah. 848 01:03:58,955 --> 01:04:00,581 You all right? 849 01:04:00,581 --> 01:04:04,247 Just tired. I've got an early start. 850 01:04:04,247 --> 01:04:06,581 Len's flight gets in at 6. 851 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:07,914 Here, let me do that. 852 01:04:07,914 --> 01:04:10,790 No, never let it be said I didn't take care of my own family 853 01:04:10,790 --> 01:04:12,706 before I started meddling with others. 854 01:04:12,706 --> 01:04:14,164 Hey, hey. 855 01:04:14,164 --> 01:04:15,538 Hey. 856 01:04:24,915 --> 01:04:26,997 So it's just us now. 857 01:04:26,997 --> 01:04:28,831 No help coming. 858 01:04:28,831 --> 01:04:31,164 We keep putting them on the spot. 859 01:04:31,164 --> 01:04:33,914 But right now, it is just us. 860 01:04:39,206 --> 01:04:42,572 8,000 miles and I finally get a return trip. 861 01:04:45,915 --> 01:04:49,040 Well, as long as she accepts me, that's all, isn't it? 862 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,409 As long as she doesn't turn me away. 863 01:04:53,665 --> 01:04:56,373 Got a good memory, though. 864 01:04:56,373 --> 01:05:02,373 I remember walking up a green hill with grass under my bare feet. 865 01:05:02,373 --> 01:05:04,207 There was someone pulling me by the hand 866 01:05:04,207 --> 01:05:06,165 because I couldn't walk very well yet. 867 01:05:06,165 --> 01:05:08,082 I was angry 868 01:05:08,082 --> 01:05:11,664 'cause I'd been promised a penny or a sweetie or something 869 01:05:11,664 --> 01:05:13,206 and I didn't get it. 870 01:05:16,706 --> 01:05:19,242 It would have been her, wouldn't it, holding my hand? 871 01:05:34,499 --> 01:05:36,207 What's that? 872 01:05:36,207 --> 01:05:39,665 It's a cheque. You can fill in what you like. 873 01:05:39,665 --> 01:05:41,415 You can decide. 874 01:05:41,415 --> 01:05:45,707 You can have that or you can have my loyalty. I don't mind which. 875 01:05:45,707 --> 01:05:48,029 As long as we're square. 876 01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:03,407 All right, then. 877 01:06:23,207 --> 01:06:25,916 Oh, you see that? See that? She's in there. 878 01:06:25,916 --> 01:06:28,999 - Len? - Yeah? 879 01:06:28,999 --> 01:06:30,540 You want me to go in with you? 880 01:06:30,540 --> 01:06:32,540 No, no, no You'll be right. 881 01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:34,415 No, get yourself a cab back. 882 01:06:34,415 --> 01:06:39,286 - Or there's a cafe up there that... - Len, I'm going to be fine. 883 01:06:45,374 --> 01:06:46,831 Thank you, Margaret. 884 01:06:48,124 --> 01:06:49,707 Thank you. 885 01:06:49,707 --> 01:06:51,449 You're very welcome, Len. 886 01:06:53,540 --> 01:06:55,083 Right. 887 01:06:55,083 --> 01:06:57,487 Here we go, then. 888 01:08:11,708 --> 01:08:14,958 The boys' home at Bindoon was closed some time ago. 889 01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:16,125 I understand that. 890 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,708 The Christian Brothers have been victimised... 891 01:08:18,708 --> 01:08:21,500 - Come back to... - We're considering legal action 892 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,416 to prevent journalists trespassing on church property, 893 01:08:24,416 --> 01:08:26,541 I heard you. 894 01:08:26,541 --> 01:08:29,125 Don't think you can come to Perth and tell any lies. 895 01:08:29,125 --> 01:08:30,667 Excuse me? 896 01:08:30,667 --> 01:08:33,708 Good brothers and sisters ran decent homes for those children. 897 01:08:33,708 --> 01:08:34,792 I do not tell lies. 898 01:08:34,792 --> 01:08:37,708 You know how much you'll hurt the holy fathers with your lies? 899 01:08:37,708 --> 01:08:38,988 I do not tell lies ever. 900 01:08:55,167 --> 01:08:59,334 It's Margaret Humphreys from the Child Migrants Trust in Australia. 901 01:08:59,334 --> 01:09:02,167 Yes, he'll know what it's regarding. 902 01:09:02,167 --> 01:09:05,200 We've had extensive correspondence on the subject. 903 01:09:06,667 --> 01:09:07,745 Yes. 904 01:09:09,042 --> 01:09:11,334 Well, I would like him to return my call. 905 01:09:11,334 --> 01:09:13,376 Um.. Yeah. 906 01:09:13,376 --> 01:09:16,409 - And if he doesn't, I will call you back tomorrow. - Thank you. 907 01:09:20,792 --> 01:09:23,917 You bitch! You fuckin' evil whore! 908 01:09:23,917 --> 01:09:26,626 Fuckin' open this window! Come on! 909 01:09:26,626 --> 01:09:27,869 Come on! 910 01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:31,584 I'm gonna rip you apart! Fuck, you'll get it! 911 01:09:31,584 --> 01:09:33,373 I can get in any time I like! 912 01:09:36,793 --> 01:09:38,249 Ahh! 913 01:09:40,250 --> 01:09:42,334 Get out! Get out! 914 01:09:42,334 --> 01:09:43,667 Get out! 915 01:09:43,667 --> 01:09:45,876 Arggh! Bitch! 916 01:09:45,876 --> 01:09:47,876 I can get you any time I like, you bitch! 917 01:09:47,876 --> 01:09:50,793 You tell lies about the Brothers and you see what you get. 918 01:09:50,793 --> 01:09:52,668 You fucking whore! 919 01:09:52,668 --> 01:09:54,492 I'll get you! 920 01:10:14,043 --> 01:10:16,001 Get home. 921 01:10:16,001 --> 01:10:18,454 No, I can't. 922 01:10:20,459 --> 01:10:23,210 Call the police. Get out of that house. 923 01:10:23,210 --> 01:10:26,622 - People are depending on me, Merv. 924 01:10:29,418 --> 01:10:32,168 I've got a load of appointments. I've got to go. 925 01:10:32,168 --> 01:10:34,621 I'll call you back later. 926 01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:58,918 I heard Bob went out to Bindoon with a camera crew. 927 01:10:58,918 --> 01:11:01,126 Yeah. 928 01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:03,283 That'll stir things up a bit. 929 01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:09,700 Theo said you didn't want to go along. 930 01:11:12,335 --> 01:11:13,662 No, I didn't. 931 01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:24,166 Yeah. Here, stop! 932 01:11:40,919 --> 01:11:42,460 I'll wait for you here. 933 01:11:42,460 --> 01:11:44,877 No, you don't need to wait for me. I'll get a taxi. 934 01:11:44,877 --> 01:11:47,335 I really should get a car. 935 01:11:47,335 --> 01:11:50,203 You don't need a taxi, you don't need a car. I'll wait for you. 936 01:11:54,086 --> 01:11:55,282 Thank you. 937 01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:03,364 Where are we? Where are we? Where are we? 938 01:12:06,502 --> 01:12:07,995 Ah, here we go. 939 01:12:14,919 --> 01:12:16,412 Oops! 940 01:12:19,585 --> 01:12:21,169 Um, it's right. 941 01:12:21,169 --> 01:12:22,709 Right! The other right. 942 01:12:27,294 --> 01:12:29,616 - Wanker! - Yeah, sorry, mate. 943 01:12:31,877 --> 01:12:34,336 - Want a bit of classical on? - No. 944 01:12:35,877 --> 01:12:37,752 You can turn that up though. 945 01:13:47,003 --> 01:13:49,408 Right? Have a good night. 946 01:13:53,503 --> 01:13:55,503 Jack, what are you doing here? 947 01:13:55,503 --> 01:13:58,670 Well, Merv rang and asked me to come over. 948 01:13:58,670 --> 01:14:00,836 He thought you might need a bit of company. 949 01:14:00,836 --> 01:14:02,420 What did he say? 950 01:14:02,420 --> 01:14:04,789 He said you needed me here. 951 01:14:22,295 --> 01:14:24,504 Sorry, Margaret. Just bringing your tea. 952 01:14:24,504 --> 01:14:25,960 Sorry. 953 01:14:29,836 --> 01:14:32,212 - You got everything you need? - Yeah. 954 01:14:32,212 --> 01:14:34,920 I thought I might sleep out on the verandah. 955 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,379 Don't much like sleeping under a roof. 956 01:14:37,379 --> 01:14:39,535 All right. Whatever you want. 957 01:15:23,837 --> 01:15:25,379 Fuck you, bitch! 958 01:15:25,379 --> 01:15:27,379 Stay away from Bindoon! 959 01:15:38,671 --> 01:15:40,545 You right in there, Margaret? 960 01:15:40,545 --> 01:15:42,204 Yeah. 961 01:15:57,962 --> 01:15:59,754 I... 962 01:15:59,754 --> 01:16:01,796 I... I can't breathe. 963 01:16:01,796 --> 01:16:05,171 I can't breathe. I can't breathe. 964 01:16:05,171 --> 01:16:07,004 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 965 01:16:07,004 --> 01:16:11,088 It's my heart. It's my heart. 966 01:16:11,088 --> 01:16:13,659 - Calm down, darling. 967 01:16:15,338 --> 01:16:18,672 ..sit down and eat your cereal. 968 01:16:18,672 --> 01:16:21,586 Rachel, come and get your breakfast. 969 01:16:24,713 --> 01:16:26,289 Rachel! 970 01:16:34,713 --> 01:16:36,170 Mum? 971 01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:42,963 Tell them you have to stay here. 972 01:16:42,963 --> 01:16:45,838 Tell them you belong to us. 973 01:16:45,838 --> 01:16:47,628 Rachel. 974 01:16:55,672 --> 01:16:56,880 Rachel. 975 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,582 No, my darling, it's just... 976 01:17:04,838 --> 01:17:06,380 I'm taking you to the doctor. 977 01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:08,755 - I don't need to go. - I'm taking you. 978 01:17:08,755 --> 01:17:12,499 Oh, for God's sake, I can get myself to the doctor. 979 01:17:21,005 --> 01:17:23,755 Look, I only came because my husband insisted. 980 01:17:23,755 --> 01:17:27,381 I just wanted to set his mind at rest. I know there's nothing wrong with me. 981 01:17:27,381 --> 01:17:30,130 I think you have post-traumatic stress disorder. 982 01:17:30,130 --> 01:17:32,630 I'm sorry but that is rubbish. 983 01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:35,922 Nothing happened to me, it all happened to them. 984 01:17:35,922 --> 01:17:41,669 Absorbing other people's pain is a stress of its own. 985 01:17:43,047 --> 01:17:45,464 I can't stop. 986 01:17:45,464 --> 01:17:47,506 There's no-one else. 987 01:17:47,506 --> 01:17:49,164 If I... 988 01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:44,215 And she hasn't stopped. 989 01:19:44,215 --> 01:19:46,590 Oh, Margaret, Lovely to see you, 990 01:19:46,590 --> 01:19:48,548 Hello. 991 01:19:48,548 --> 01:19:50,465 Margaret, hi. 992 01:19:50,465 --> 01:19:52,586 Hope you don't mind us dropping in on you. 993 01:19:54,131 --> 01:19:57,674 I was just telling them, Margaret, we had such a good day. 994 01:19:57,674 --> 01:20:00,715 I really wanted to invite you but we know you're so busy. 995 01:20:00,715 --> 01:20:03,340 30 years I was working at that pub. 996 01:20:03,340 --> 01:20:05,090 And they never knew I had a daughter. 997 01:20:05,090 --> 01:20:08,131 She was really keen for me to come over for the retirement party 998 01:20:08,131 --> 01:20:10,965 but we didn't know what we were going to tell people. 999 01:20:10,965 --> 01:20:13,382 - Then Bill says... - Bill's one of the regulars. 1000 01:20:13,382 --> 01:20:15,340 'Who's this lovely young lady, Vera?' 1001 01:20:15,340 --> 01:20:18,007 He's ancient, see, so... 1002 01:20:18,007 --> 01:20:21,507 And I said, 'This is my daughter, Bill. 1003 01:20:21,507 --> 01:20:23,882 My daughter Charlotte.' 1004 01:20:23,882 --> 01:20:26,174 - And he says... - Never even blinked. 1005 01:20:26,174 --> 01:20:28,132 ..'She looks just like you.' 1006 01:20:28,132 --> 01:20:30,882 - He could tell. - Anyone could tell. 1007 01:20:30,882 --> 01:20:34,548 And there we were in front of them all, together. 1008 01:20:34,548 --> 01:20:36,382 Mother and daughter. 1009 01:20:36,382 --> 01:20:39,632 - I tell you, Margaret... - It was the happiest moment... 1010 01:20:39,632 --> 01:20:41,799 - Of my life. - Both of us. 1011 01:20:41,799 --> 01:20:47,840 We just... We just felt... whole. 1012 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,049 At last. 1013 01:20:50,049 --> 01:20:52,424 Nothing missing. 1014 01:20:52,424 --> 01:20:54,466 I said, 'We have to come and tell Margaret.' 1015 01:20:54,466 --> 01:20:57,840 But we didn't even know if you'd be here, you're so busy. 1016 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,171 So when are you back off to Australia? 1017 01:21:04,174 --> 01:21:06,792 Well, as soon as this lot can spare me. 1018 01:21:29,049 --> 01:21:31,965 There's a chilled chardonnay on the table there for you. 1019 01:21:31,965 --> 01:21:36,341 Margaret River. Bit young but hitting its stride, I reckon. 1020 01:21:36,341 --> 01:21:38,633 I didn't come here to drink, Len. 1021 01:21:38,633 --> 01:21:40,466 I thought you wanted to talk. 1022 01:21:40,466 --> 01:21:43,132 I do. I've got some soup too. It's home-cooked. 1023 01:21:43,132 --> 01:21:45,383 I can cook, you know. 1024 01:21:45,383 --> 01:21:46,966 I'm sure you can. 1025 01:21:46,966 --> 01:21:49,758 - You look hungry enough. - I've already eaten. 1026 01:21:49,758 --> 01:21:52,800 What was it you wanted to say? 1027 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,963 You're a difficult woman to entertain, Mrs. Humphreys. 1028 01:21:59,508 --> 01:22:00,621 All right. 1029 01:22:19,925 --> 01:22:25,424 Look, um, all this TV coverage, it's stirred everything up, Margaret. 1030 01:22:25,424 --> 01:22:28,050 It's got the boys talking. 1031 01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:32,591 And, um, I've been watching how the boys are around you, 1032 01:22:32,591 --> 01:22:36,253 and, uh, not speaking out of turn, you know what I'm talking about. 1033 01:22:37,508 --> 01:22:39,883 You're like a sister to them. 1034 01:22:39,883 --> 01:22:43,591 You're family after everything you've done. 1035 01:22:43,591 --> 01:22:47,092 You know? Only family most of us will ever have anyway. 1036 01:22:47,092 --> 01:22:49,425 I'm not sure that family is really the right word. 1037 01:22:49,425 --> 01:22:51,467 Well, that's how we feel. 1038 01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:56,539 No, but you're right, it's... it's not real. 1039 01:22:58,716 --> 01:23:01,467 'Cause you haven't been there, have you? 1040 01:23:01,467 --> 01:23:05,634 You've heard about our childhood but you haven't touched our childhood. 1041 01:23:05,634 --> 01:23:07,425 'Cause you haven't been there. 1042 01:23:07,425 --> 01:23:08,800 Where? 1043 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,342 To Bindoon. 1044 01:23:10,342 --> 01:23:16,089 I'm, uh... I'm asking you to come to Bindoon with me. 1045 01:23:18,759 --> 01:23:20,548 No. 1046 01:23:22,467 --> 01:23:24,675 Well, have a think about it, Margaret. 1047 01:23:24,675 --> 01:23:31,384 Look, Len, what you all suffered at Bindoon, that's your history. 1048 01:23:31,384 --> 01:23:32,960 But it's not mine. 1049 01:23:35,258 --> 01:23:38,051 I have to be careful. 1050 01:23:38,051 --> 01:23:39,258 I... 1051 01:23:39,258 --> 01:23:44,550 I'm not, um... It wouldn't be appropriate for me to get too close to all of that. 1052 01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:48,967 It's... Well, it wouldn't be right. 1053 01:23:48,967 --> 01:23:51,467 No, no, you'll be right. I'll look after you. 1054 01:23:51,467 --> 01:23:53,837 No, Len, I don't want to. 1055 01:23:55,176 --> 01:23:59,170 I don't have to go there and I don't want to. 1056 01:24:00,342 --> 01:24:03,759 OK, OK, but look at it from the old boys' point of view. 1057 01:24:03,759 --> 01:24:07,093 That's like saying that you can't look at who they are. 1058 01:24:07,093 --> 01:24:10,301 Is that what they're saying? 1059 01:24:10,301 --> 01:24:13,259 Well, you have a think about it, Margaret. 1060 01:24:13,259 --> 01:24:16,134 Maybe that's the monster living in your head. 1061 01:24:16,134 --> 01:24:20,009 I don't like to think of you walking around 1062 01:24:20,009 --> 01:24:22,083 with a monster like that in your head. 1063 01:24:46,718 --> 01:24:49,093 Well, we should be there in a couple of hours. 1064 01:24:49,093 --> 01:24:52,259 It used to take six before they graded the road. 1065 01:24:52,259 --> 01:24:55,093 God You should have seen it - 1066 01:24:55,093 --> 01:24:58,760 40 or 50 little nippers bouncing around in the back of an open truck, 1067 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,718 eating dust and flies, crying for their mums. 1068 01:25:01,718 --> 01:25:04,835 We thought we'd been dropped off at the end of the earth. 1069 01:25:49,968 --> 01:25:51,343 You right? 1070 01:26:12,135 --> 01:26:14,292 See it from here first. 1071 01:26:41,719 --> 01:26:43,594 Is it what you expected? 1072 01:26:43,594 --> 01:26:46,296 I didn't know it would be so big. 1073 01:26:47,761 --> 01:26:50,636 And I didn't know it would be so beautiful. 1074 01:26:50,636 --> 01:26:54,511 The boys put every stone of that building together. 1075 01:26:54,511 --> 01:26:56,585 I know. 1076 01:26:59,844 --> 01:27:03,177 The cement would burn your feet. 1077 01:27:03,177 --> 01:27:04,886 We'd no shoes. 1078 01:27:04,886 --> 01:27:08,260 The cement would burn the cuts on our feet 1079 01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:10,928 and the sores on our hands and knees. 1080 01:27:10,928 --> 01:27:17,302 All day, in blazing heat, no rest, no water. 1081 01:27:17,302 --> 01:27:24,177 I was nine years old and I was lifting rocks the size of my upper body. 1082 01:27:25,928 --> 01:27:33,053 And he's yelling at us, 'You weak, weak, pitiful sons of whores.' 1083 01:27:33,053 --> 01:27:36,303 We built stations of the cross. 1084 01:27:36,303 --> 01:27:39,552 But who was crucified, huh? 1085 01:27:39,552 --> 01:27:41,543 Tell me that. 1086 01:27:43,136 --> 01:27:44,719 You all right to go down? 1087 01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:47,719 Suppose they don't let us in. 1088 01:27:47,719 --> 01:27:50,719 There's a swimming pool at the back of the building. 1089 01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:53,753 I paid for it. They'll let us in. 1090 01:28:27,595 --> 01:28:31,220 He had this... he had this big knobby stick. 1091 01:28:31,220 --> 01:28:36,303 And he would crack you over the skull with it. 1092 01:28:36,303 --> 01:28:40,095 Leather belts. Fanbelt from the tractor. 1093 01:28:40,095 --> 01:28:43,258 Anything that would give you a good wallop, you know? 1094 01:28:46,428 --> 01:28:49,462 They'll still be having their breakfast. Feel like a cup of tea? 1095 01:28:51,303 --> 01:28:52,677 Come on. 1096 01:29:34,262 --> 01:29:35,885 Morning, brothers. 1097 01:29:40,762 --> 01:29:42,887 I've brought Mrs. Humphreys 1098 01:29:42,887 --> 01:29:45,458 to have a look around the old place if that's all right. 1099 01:29:49,221 --> 01:29:50,761 Come through. 1100 01:30:07,596 --> 01:30:09,136 There we go. 1101 01:30:13,721 --> 01:30:15,379 Is there any chance of a cuppa? 1102 01:30:55,888 --> 01:30:59,254 We can do better than a chipped cup, can't we, brother? 1103 01:31:05,638 --> 01:31:09,222 We'd hear one of the brothers coming. 1104 01:31:09,222 --> 01:31:12,138 Just his footsteps on the wooden floor. 1105 01:31:12,138 --> 01:31:16,305 You'd be lying there in the wet sheets and you're thinking, 1106 01:31:16,305 --> 01:31:21,305 'Oh, please, God... Please, God, don't let it be me.' 1107 01:31:21,305 --> 01:31:23,888 He would make you strip naked 1108 01:31:23,888 --> 01:31:29,721 and get on the tables with everybody watching you. 1109 01:31:29,721 --> 01:31:33,680 Don't know where I thought I could run to, there's nothing there for miles. 1110 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,389 He came after me on horseback. 1111 01:31:37,389 --> 01:31:39,758 When he caught me... 1112 01:31:41,597 --> 01:31:44,222 ..he tied me to a tree. 1113 01:31:44,222 --> 01:31:46,305 And he, uh... 1114 01:31:46,305 --> 01:31:49,220 He... 1115 01:31:54,222 --> 01:31:57,089 You probably can't believe me. 1116 01:32:04,806 --> 01:32:07,258 Of course I believe you. 1117 01:32:13,889 --> 01:32:17,219 The fucker raped me, Margaret. 1118 01:32:20,514 --> 01:32:23,555 Hey, I think you might have forgotten something, brother. 1119 01:32:26,806 --> 01:32:28,796 I'll fix it up, shall I? 1120 01:32:43,347 --> 01:32:47,681 Didn't matter if he split your skull open, he'd keep whacking away. 1121 01:32:47,681 --> 01:32:50,597 You just thought... 1122 01:32:50,597 --> 01:32:53,639 'I'm nothing now. 1123 01:32:53,639 --> 01:32:56,210 Nothing at all.' 1124 01:32:58,390 --> 01:33:01,341 Who's gonna... Who's gonna look after me? 1125 01:33:03,223 --> 01:33:06,919 Who's gonna look after me? I'm nobody. 1126 01:33:29,889 --> 01:33:33,056 Have I disturbed you, brothers? 1127 01:33:33,056 --> 01:33:36,089 Have I frightened you? 1128 01:33:38,556 --> 01:33:41,390 What have you got to be frightened of? 1129 01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:43,960 Grown men like you. 1130 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,182 Look at that, Margaret. 1131 01:34:24,182 --> 01:34:28,128 Can't see another house. Nothing but bush. 1132 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,129 No-one would find you here. 1133 01:34:35,431 --> 01:34:39,182 He'd wait for me after dark, Brother Norman. 1134 01:34:39,182 --> 01:34:42,556 He took a shine to me. I was a favourite, I suppose. 1135 01:34:42,556 --> 01:34:45,259 I don't know. 1136 01:34:45,723 --> 01:34:50,346 You just think, 'I'll live through this. It'll stop one day.' 1137 01:34:53,557 --> 01:34:55,429 Bloody years. 1138 01:35:00,890 --> 01:35:04,391 Margaret, have a look at that. Black cockatoo. 1139 01:35:04,391 --> 01:35:07,557 Oh, there'd be flocks of them over here sometimes. 1140 01:35:07,557 --> 01:35:09,973 They'd sound like trains going over your head. 1141 01:35:09,973 --> 01:35:13,182 - You all right? - Yeah. 1142 01:35:13,182 --> 01:35:14,807 You've gone a funny colour. 1143 01:35:14,807 --> 01:35:16,597 I'll just get you a drink. 1144 01:35:30,683 --> 01:35:32,258 There you go. 1145 01:35:34,641 --> 01:35:37,057 - You right? - I'm fine. It's just the heat. 1146 01:35:37,057 --> 01:35:38,224 OK. 1147 01:35:38,224 --> 01:35:41,683 Know what your problem is, Mrs. H? You don't look after yourself properly. 1148 01:35:41,683 --> 01:35:43,474 You won't let anyone else do it either. 1149 01:35:43,474 --> 01:35:45,766 Len, it's not for anybody else to look after me. 1150 01:35:45,766 --> 01:35:48,432 I've been loved and looked after my entire life. 1151 01:35:48,432 --> 01:35:49,516 It's your turn now. 1152 01:35:49,516 --> 01:35:51,432 But you'll never get it. 1153 01:35:51,432 --> 01:35:55,474 Everybody thinks there's going to be this big cathartic moment 1154 01:35:55,474 --> 01:35:57,974 when the wrongs are righted and the wounds healed, 1155 01:35:57,974 --> 01:35:59,599 but it's not going to happen. 1156 01:35:59,599 --> 01:36:03,260 I can't give you back what you've lost. 1157 01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,849 Well, there's plenty of other people in that boat. 1158 01:36:08,849 --> 01:36:12,096 Well, its not enough, is it, Len? It's never enough. 1159 01:36:15,766 --> 01:36:18,974 Jeez, old Bindoon, it shook you up all right, didn't it? 1160 01:36:18,974 --> 01:36:20,467 No, I'm fine. 1161 01:36:22,516 --> 01:36:25,766 It should shake me up. I'm the one who should be shaking. 1162 01:36:25,766 --> 01:36:32,100 But even if I was lying here in the dirt bawling like a kid, 1163 01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,891 I couldn't feel it all, could I? 1164 01:36:34,891 --> 01:36:36,763 Isn't that what you'd tell me? 1165 01:36:38,016 --> 01:36:41,808 I had to stop crying when I was eight. I don't know how to start now. 1166 01:36:41,808 --> 01:36:44,974 But you feel it. 1167 01:36:44,974 --> 01:36:48,683 You feel it for all of us because we can't, you do. 1168 01:36:48,683 --> 01:36:52,058 No, you're fighting for us, Margaret. You're in there for us. 1169 01:36:52,058 --> 01:36:53,642 You're on our side. 1170 01:36:53,642 --> 01:36:56,100 So let the rest go. 1171 01:36:56,100 --> 01:37:00,224 Just let the rest go. 1172 01:37:02,350 --> 01:37:04,506 What you're doing is enough. 1173 01:37:07,392 --> 01:37:10,058 It's more than anyone else has ever given me. 1174 01:37:43,475 --> 01:37:45,382 Happy Christmas. 1175 01:37:47,433 --> 01:37:50,183 - And happy Christmas. - Oh! 1176 01:37:53,767 --> 01:37:55,308 Ooh! 1177 01:37:59,892 --> 01:38:02,510 Happy Christmas, darling. 1178 01:38:09,850 --> 01:38:11,675 Here you go, love. 1179 01:38:12,226 --> 01:38:13,767 Happy Christmas. 1180 01:38:13,767 --> 01:38:16,809 So, what are you going to give all of us for Christmas, Ben? 1181 01:38:16,809 --> 01:38:19,676 I gave you my mum. 1182 01:38:26,518 --> 01:38:28,184 So you did. 1183 01:38:28,184 --> 01:38:31,892 So you did, darling, and we love you for it. 1184 01:38:31,892 --> 01:38:33,516 Hear, hear. 1185 01:38:56,518 --> 01:38:58,768 Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. 1186 01:38:58,768 --> 01:39:01,600 Don't start snivelling. 1187 01:39:03,309 --> 01:39:06,093 Bloody hell, woman, what are you trying to do to me? 1188 01:39:12,810 --> 01:39:15,808 - See you in a couple of weeks. - See you in a couple of weeks. 92369

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