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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:08,941 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:14,914 --> 00:00:17,916 [birds chirping] 3 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,358 [Nathan] I'm Nathan. I'm 13. 4 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:29,261 I live in Denver, Colorado with my mom. 5 00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:34,333 When I get home, I'll go longboard, 6 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:36,035 maybe Skype a friend or go outside, 7 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:38,103 play with the neighbors. 8 00:00:38,138 --> 00:00:40,606 I don't know how old I was when I figured out 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,209 that I was conceived with donor sperm though. 10 00:00:44,244 --> 00:00:45,778 Most of my friends 11 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:48,047 come from a pretty normal family. 12 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:51,283 I tried to look for the donor, but... 13 00:00:51,317 --> 00:00:52,785 [man speaking] 14 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:55,687 No. 15 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:58,223 When I was first contacted by other siblings, 16 00:00:58,258 --> 00:01:00,626 I remember that I was talking 17 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:02,327 to friends on Facebook 18 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:04,496 and I got a message saying, 19 00:01:04,531 --> 00:01:06,732 you know, "Are you Nathan? Do you live in Denver?" 20 00:01:06,766 --> 00:01:08,434 I said "Yes." 21 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:12,071 And that's how I met them. 22 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:15,107 [dramatic music playing] 23 00:02:31,784 --> 00:02:32,751 [woman] This is the audio tape 24 00:02:32,785 --> 00:02:34,586 of donor 5114. 25 00:02:34,621 --> 00:02:38,657 Today's date is October 23rd, 1996. 26 00:02:38,691 --> 00:02:41,727 [man] Hello, my donor number is 5114. 27 00:02:41,761 --> 00:02:44,229 I am six feet one inch tall. 28 00:02:44,264 --> 00:02:46,798 I have medium build, straight brown hair, 29 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:48,400 and brown eyes. 30 00:02:48,434 --> 00:02:49,902 I have full lips, 31 00:02:49,936 --> 00:02:52,571 and my racial color code as established 32 00:02:52,605 --> 00:02:56,475 by the California Cryobank is white. 33 00:02:56,509 --> 00:02:58,177 [woman] Can you give me one or two adjectives 34 00:02:58,211 --> 00:03:00,646 that best describe you? 35 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,116 [man] I would say optimistic and curious. 36 00:03:04,150 --> 00:03:05,484 [woman] Do you have any hobbies? 37 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:07,219 [man] Any hobbies, yes. 38 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:10,622 I like fly fishing and running, 39 00:03:10,657 --> 00:03:13,659 reading, and traveling especially. 40 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:15,427 [woman] Do you have anything that you would like to say 41 00:03:15,461 --> 00:03:16,895 to the recipient of your sperm 42 00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:19,731 or a child born from your sperm? 43 00:03:19,766 --> 00:03:21,733 [man] Yes. I wish them all the luck. 44 00:03:21,768 --> 00:03:24,770 [dramatic music playing] 45 00:03:36,583 --> 00:03:38,217 [woman] This is, like, one of the three pictures 46 00:03:38,251 --> 00:03:41,053 I have of me and you together. 47 00:03:41,087 --> 00:03:42,754 No, it's... You're not in anything in here, 48 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:46,258 this is all before... B.N., Before Nathan. 49 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:47,659 That's the first... That's Hawaii, 50 00:03:47,694 --> 00:03:50,229 that's... You were seven weeks old. 51 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:52,431 People thought I was crazy. 52 00:03:52,465 --> 00:03:53,765 "They said "What'd you do, just give birth 53 00:03:53,833 --> 00:03:56,735 and get on a plane?" [chuckles] 54 00:03:56,769 --> 00:04:00,038 I think I knew from the time I was seven years old 55 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:02,274 that basically what I wanted to be 56 00:04:02,308 --> 00:04:04,309 when I grow up was a mommy, 57 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:05,877 and it just ended up 58 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:08,981 that I was single for most of my life 59 00:04:09,015 --> 00:04:12,351 and so I decided to do 60 00:04:12,385 --> 00:04:14,553 a donor insemination. 61 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:17,322 I never considered an extended family. 62 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:19,691 I never really... Even the thought of siblings 63 00:04:19,726 --> 00:04:21,960 didn't really enter my mind. 64 00:04:21,995 --> 00:04:23,328 You're so excited about the fact 65 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:24,796 that you're starting this journey 66 00:04:24,831 --> 00:04:26,064 with having a baby. You don't think of, 67 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:27,799 you know, you got... 68 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:30,936 You don't think about the wider picture. 69 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:32,371 Everyone thought you were gonna be like 70 00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:33,672 a nine-pound baby 71 00:04:33,706 --> 00:04:35,674 and you were six pounds, thirteen ounces. 72 00:04:35,708 --> 00:04:37,676 You were microscopic. 73 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:40,212 [Nathan] When my half-siblings first contacted me, 74 00:04:40,246 --> 00:04:43,382 I remember being happy that I had half-siblings 75 00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:45,484 but a little frustrated with my mom 76 00:04:45,518 --> 00:04:47,853 because she had known about some of them 77 00:04:47,887 --> 00:04:50,289 and she hadn't told me before. 78 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:52,524 Well, I had told my mom about this 79 00:04:52,558 --> 00:04:56,295 and she didn't think 80 00:04:56,329 --> 00:04:59,298 it would be a good idea to tell Nathan. 81 00:04:59,332 --> 00:05:00,899 She believed that he had a family 82 00:05:00,933 --> 00:05:03,335 and he didn't need any other family. 83 00:05:03,369 --> 00:05:04,936 Then I thought, well, you know, 84 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:07,673 when he's older, if he ever wants to know, 85 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:10,208 if he ever puts it together in his head that, 86 00:05:10,243 --> 00:05:12,377 you know, there might be, 87 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:15,280 I just thought I'd let him kind of... 88 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:16,581 And I left it alone. 89 00:05:16,616 --> 00:05:18,550 I never really thought that 90 00:05:18,584 --> 00:05:20,686 I would come in contact with my siblings 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,421 but I knew that there was a chance 92 00:05:22,455 --> 00:05:25,424 that there were, out there. 93 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:28,427 Me and the other siblings always get on Skype, 94 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:30,128 talk to each other online 95 00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:31,663 after we all get home from school. 96 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:34,099 I feel like I've already known them 97 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:36,335 for longer than I have 98 00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:39,204 even though I might know that much about them. 99 00:05:39,238 --> 00:05:41,406 Being online having social media 100 00:05:41,441 --> 00:05:43,008 really helps us stay connected 101 00:05:43,042 --> 00:05:44,176 because so far, 102 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:46,411 it's the only contact we have 103 00:05:46,446 --> 00:05:48,246 between each other. 104 00:05:48,281 --> 00:05:51,083 [woman] He's been on Skype with these siblings 105 00:05:51,117 --> 00:05:53,352 since the day he met them 106 00:05:53,386 --> 00:05:55,587 and tomorrow we are getting on a plane 107 00:05:55,621 --> 00:05:57,289 and we are flying to Taos 108 00:05:57,323 --> 00:05:59,691 and he is going to meet five of his half-siblings. 109 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:02,794 [dramatic music playing] 110 00:06:44,937 --> 00:06:46,505 - [Nathan] Hi. - [Zeke] Hi. 111 00:06:46,539 --> 00:06:48,273 [woman] You must be Zeke. 112 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:49,641 [Zeke] My name is Zeke. 113 00:06:51,277 --> 00:06:53,278 - [man] Yeah. - [man] Do you have a... 114 00:06:53,312 --> 00:06:56,248 - [woman] Hi. - [Nick] Hey. 115 00:06:56,282 --> 00:06:58,016 Hello. 116 00:06:58,050 --> 00:06:59,618 [indistinct chatter] 117 00:06:59,652 --> 00:07:02,921 - [woman] Let's go. - [girl] Let's go. 118 00:07:02,955 --> 00:07:04,823 - Hi. - [Nathan] Hi. 119 00:07:04,857 --> 00:07:06,024 [Alexis] Hi, Nate. 120 00:07:06,058 --> 00:07:07,325 - [Nathan] Hi. - Okay. 121 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,994 [dramatic music playing] 122 00:07:09,028 --> 00:07:12,063 [indistinct chatter] 123 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:17,202 [Alexis] Ten hours. 124 00:07:17,236 --> 00:07:18,670 [indistinct chatter] 125 00:07:18,704 --> 00:07:22,040 [man speaking] 126 00:07:22,074 --> 00:07:23,341 [Danny] Oh, yeah. 127 00:07:23,376 --> 00:07:24,676 [Alexis] Danny, I brought you a flower. 128 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:27,879 [indistinct chatter] 129 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:29,881 So where did you come from? 130 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:31,917 [indistinct chatter] 131 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:34,252 [Danny] Oh we got a tarantula. 132 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,321 [man] Yeah, where is the tarantula anyway? 133 00:07:36,355 --> 00:07:37,889 [indistinct chatter] 134 00:07:37,924 --> 00:07:40,525 [woman] It's kind of overwhelming. 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,494 It's... There's a lot of people 136 00:07:42,528 --> 00:07:44,596 and a lot of children and I had talked 137 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:46,531 to a couple of people outside 138 00:07:46,566 --> 00:07:49,401 when I first got here and everyone's so friendly 139 00:07:49,435 --> 00:07:53,171 and nice and it's just exciting. 140 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:54,906 [Neylan] Oh, I have a present for you. 141 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:56,308 Oh, cool. 142 00:07:56,342 --> 00:07:57,576 A bracelet. 143 00:07:57,610 --> 00:08:00,612 - Yeah, it's pretty. - [man speaking] 144 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:02,781 Yeah. We're sisters, you know? 145 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:04,950 They all say "sisters forever." 146 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:07,118 Yeah. We're all girls here. 147 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:08,220 - Right, Danny? - [Zeke] What? 148 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:10,455 [Danny] What? No, yes. 149 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:11,823 [man] So when you guys got here, 150 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:13,124 you guys got here last night. 151 00:08:13,159 --> 00:08:14,626 Like, what did you guys do today? 152 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:16,261 - Waiting for Nathan. - Yeah. He never came. 153 00:08:16,295 --> 00:08:18,163 [Danny] On Skype, he told me that he'd be here 154 00:08:18,197 --> 00:08:19,831 by, like, 5:00 in the morning 155 00:08:19,866 --> 00:08:21,867 so we were all up till like 5:00 in the morning, 156 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:23,268 - waiting for him. - Yeah. 157 00:08:23,302 --> 00:08:24,769 - And then... - We slept on the balcony. 158 00:08:24,804 --> 00:08:26,204 And then it turned out that he left at 5:00 159 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:27,906 in the morning. I was like, "wow." 160 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:31,743 [man speaking] 161 00:08:31,777 --> 00:08:33,478 [Nick] At first, I was really nervous. 162 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,780 I didn't know what to say because I feel like 163 00:08:35,815 --> 00:08:37,282 we're brothers and sisters but, 164 00:08:37,316 --> 00:08:38,650 like, we've never met before. 165 00:08:38,684 --> 00:08:41,286 So I didn't really know what to say. 166 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,387 My name is Nick. 167 00:08:42,421 --> 00:08:43,655 May name is Danny. 168 00:08:43,689 --> 00:08:45,156 My name is Alexis. 169 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:46,458 My name is Neylan. 170 00:08:46,492 --> 00:08:48,059 My name is Zeke. 171 00:08:48,094 --> 00:08:51,630 [Nick] I've noticed that we all have full lips. 172 00:08:51,664 --> 00:08:52,931 [Alexis] Yeah. And dark eyebrows. 173 00:08:52,965 --> 00:08:54,633 [Neylan] And bushy eyebrows, yeah. 174 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:56,268 [Alexis] Some of us have, like, kind of wide-ish noses 175 00:08:56,302 --> 00:08:58,069 like we do and he does kind of... 176 00:08:58,104 --> 00:08:59,538 And we all play soccer. 177 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:01,273 - Yeah. - Right? 178 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:02,941 Do most of us do track? 179 00:09:02,975 --> 00:09:04,476 I do track, yeah. 180 00:09:04,510 --> 00:09:06,278 It's my favorite sport, so. 181 00:09:06,312 --> 00:09:07,846 [Nick] Today, like, we kind of like... 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,814 We got to know each other well today I think. 183 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:11,049 - [Neylan] Yeah. - Yeah. 184 00:09:11,083 --> 00:09:13,718 And I wanna know Nathan more, too. 185 00:09:13,753 --> 00:09:16,755 [indistinct chatter] 186 00:09:26,165 --> 00:09:27,766 [Danny] At first, meeting Neylan's mom, 187 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,200 they found each other and we've been talking 188 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:30,535 ever since we were little. 189 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,604 [Alexis] Their moms found, like, Nick 190 00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:35,140 and a few other people and then like my mom really 191 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:36,808 wasn't into the whole donor thing 192 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,110 and she was kind of like staying away from it. 193 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:40,645 And then I got interested 194 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:43,181 and I started looking for my half-siblings. 195 00:09:43,215 --> 00:09:46,351 She wasn't, like, against it. She just didn't really 196 00:09:46,385 --> 00:09:48,053 think about it that much 197 00:09:48,087 --> 00:09:49,888 and, like, she was like, "Oh, if my daughter's" 198 00:09:49,922 --> 00:09:51,823 interested in it, I'll be interested in it... 199 00:09:51,857 --> 00:09:54,225 in it, too." So, when I was old enough 200 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:58,029 to understand and, like, look for my half-siblings, 201 00:09:58,064 --> 00:10:00,165 then she kind of like helped me out. 202 00:10:00,199 --> 00:10:02,167 Yeah. 203 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:04,302 I have not had any contact 204 00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:06,471 with any of the mothers before this. 205 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:08,440 I've been sort of on the margin. 206 00:10:08,474 --> 00:10:12,677 So I find the experience both delightful, 207 00:10:12,712 --> 00:10:14,713 I think they're all very, very wonderful, 208 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:17,382 but I also find it quite frankly odd 209 00:10:17,416 --> 00:10:21,486 because here I am with a group of women 210 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,522 who have had children by the same man as I have 211 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:27,292 and we just met. So it is a bit... 212 00:10:27,326 --> 00:10:29,194 Again, it's very delightful 213 00:10:29,228 --> 00:10:33,198 but it's also weird, I think. 214 00:10:33,232 --> 00:10:34,432 But we can't hate each other... 215 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:36,034 - No. No. No. - ...because our man 216 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:38,370 didn't, like, screw around or anything. 217 00:10:38,404 --> 00:10:40,605 - No. No. - It's all by choice. 218 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,374 It's... Yeah. 219 00:10:42,408 --> 00:10:44,442 I never in my wildest dreams 220 00:10:44,477 --> 00:10:46,611 would have thought we would be sitting here 221 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:49,781 with other children from the same donor. 222 00:10:49,815 --> 00:10:51,549 I guess I never really thought about the fact 223 00:10:51,584 --> 00:10:55,120 that Neylan was gonna meet these other children, 224 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,222 and they were gonna be like siblings. 225 00:10:57,256 --> 00:10:58,690 They've got a connection 226 00:10:58,724 --> 00:11:00,458 and I think it's hard for any of us 227 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,094 to understand because we all have the connection 228 00:11:03,129 --> 00:11:05,930 because we've picked the same number. 229 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:07,866 But the kids have the connection 230 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:11,036 that they came from the same person. 231 00:11:13,139 --> 00:11:15,874 [woman] Okay, Donor 5114, are you a student? 232 00:11:15,908 --> 00:11:17,108 [Nathan] Yes. 233 00:11:17,143 --> 00:11:18,943 [woman] And what are you studying? 234 00:11:18,978 --> 00:11:21,279 [man] I'm studying my masters in architecture. 235 00:11:21,313 --> 00:11:22,947 [woman] Can you give me one or two adjectives 236 00:11:22,982 --> 00:11:25,116 that best describe you? 237 00:11:25,151 --> 00:11:27,952 [man] I'd say optimistic and curious. 238 00:11:27,987 --> 00:11:31,189 [woman] And what do you admire in others? 239 00:11:31,223 --> 00:11:34,759 [man] I admire when people show a sense of courage 240 00:11:34,794 --> 00:11:36,528 and honesty. 241 00:11:36,562 --> 00:11:38,596 [woman] And what do you least like about others? 242 00:11:38,631 --> 00:11:41,700 [man] I least like lying, really. 243 00:11:41,734 --> 00:11:43,368 It something that bothers me a lot. 244 00:11:43,402 --> 00:11:45,070 - [woman] Dishonesty? - [man] Dishonesty. 245 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:47,672 [woman] Okay. Great. Good. 246 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:49,240 Do you have anything that you would like to say 247 00:11:49,275 --> 00:11:50,775 to your recipient of your sperm 248 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:53,078 or a child born from your sperm? 249 00:11:53,112 --> 00:11:55,580 [man] Yes. I wish them all the luck. 250 00:11:55,614 --> 00:11:59,217 [woman] Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you. 251 00:11:59,251 --> 00:12:02,754 Well, the first time I heard it, I was like... 252 00:12:02,788 --> 00:12:04,255 I was kind of shocked to hear his voice 253 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:06,291 because I didn't really, like, 254 00:12:06,325 --> 00:12:09,160 I didn't know like at all what he was like 255 00:12:09,195 --> 00:12:12,797 and it just, like, makes me more curious 256 00:12:12,832 --> 00:12:15,734 about what he's like and what he looks like. 257 00:12:15,768 --> 00:12:19,137 [Alexis] I wished that he had said more in the tape, 258 00:12:19,171 --> 00:12:21,439 like, I expected more. 259 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:23,608 When they asked him, like, if there was anything 260 00:12:23,642 --> 00:12:25,510 that he'd like to pass on to, like, 261 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,579 the recipients of his donation, 262 00:12:27,613 --> 00:12:30,515 like, I wish he had said more than good luck, 263 00:12:30,549 --> 00:12:33,118 like, that kind... That part kind of 264 00:12:33,152 --> 00:12:34,586 made me feel kind of empty, 265 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:37,589 like, that's all you have to say? Yeah. 266 00:12:37,623 --> 00:12:39,324 [Danny] Like it was almost like in the profile 267 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:41,092 that he like just donated 268 00:12:41,127 --> 00:12:43,361 because he needed the college money. 269 00:12:43,395 --> 00:12:45,263 Sort of seemed like that. 270 00:12:45,297 --> 00:12:47,799 - [Neylan] Yeah. - Right. 271 00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:50,135 If he wants to have, like, contact with us 272 00:12:50,169 --> 00:12:51,336 when we get older. 273 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:54,973 [dramatic music playing] 274 00:12:55,007 --> 00:12:58,009 [birds chirping] 275 00:13:06,252 --> 00:13:08,019 [Alexis] I want our donor to know that, 276 00:13:08,053 --> 00:13:09,521 yeah, we really want to meet him 277 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:11,589 and we know that he probably has a life 278 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:14,159 of his own now and he might have, like, 279 00:13:14,193 --> 00:13:16,594 a partner and kids that he's raised 280 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,263 and that we just wanna have, 281 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:21,232 like, some identity of who we are. 282 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:23,001 [Danny] Because you wanna know the other half of you, 283 00:13:23,035 --> 00:13:25,804 like, you only know what your mom gave you. 284 00:13:25,838 --> 00:13:27,205 - Yeah. Like... - And sometimes 285 00:13:27,239 --> 00:13:28,573 you're not even that similar to your mom, 286 00:13:28,607 --> 00:13:30,842 so you're like ugh. 287 00:13:30,876 --> 00:13:32,410 [Nick] It's, like, hard to, like, 288 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:34,679 not be able to think of who your dad is. 289 00:13:34,713 --> 00:13:36,481 Most of my friends can just, like, 290 00:13:36,515 --> 00:13:38,583 talk about their dad or, like, know who they are 291 00:13:38,617 --> 00:13:40,218 and I can't, like... 292 00:13:40,252 --> 00:13:41,719 Like I can't even picture him in my head 293 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:43,955 of what he looks like, only my mom. 294 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:48,026 [dramatic music playing] 295 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,116 [Alexis] So we're all here in California 296 00:14:12,151 --> 00:14:13,952 and we're gathering for our second 297 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:16,888 sibling reunion. Some of us haven't met before 298 00:14:16,922 --> 00:14:19,324 - and... Like Mattie... - And me. 299 00:14:19,358 --> 00:14:21,226 ...and Sadie. 300 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:22,894 I think we're all just looking forward 301 00:14:22,928 --> 00:14:25,230 to having a really good time here with one another. 302 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:28,233 [dramatic music playing] 303 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:35,473 [Mattie] It hasn't, like, hit me yet 304 00:14:35,507 --> 00:14:37,408 that, like, I met everyone 305 00:14:37,443 --> 00:14:39,444 because we all just kind of clicked 306 00:14:39,478 --> 00:14:41,546 and we connected really well. 307 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:43,648 And it all felt just really natural. 308 00:14:43,682 --> 00:14:45,583 [Sadie] Yeah. We get along so well already 309 00:14:45,618 --> 00:14:48,086 because we're related so we're kind of not afraid 310 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,554 to just be ourselves 311 00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:51,122 and we don't have to like impress them 312 00:14:51,156 --> 00:14:52,590 because we're all like brothers and sisters, 313 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,392 and it's not like meeting new people, 314 00:14:54,426 --> 00:14:56,895 you have to worry about like what they think of you. 315 00:14:56,929 --> 00:14:59,797 [Mattie] Yeah. And we all like talk about 316 00:14:59,832 --> 00:15:01,766 stuff about ourselves that you normally 317 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,501 wouldn't share with other people, 318 00:15:03,535 --> 00:15:05,470 and we compare ourselves, like, oh, 319 00:15:05,504 --> 00:15:07,705 - you have the same... - [Sadie] Yeah. 320 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:10,108 We have the same feet. 321 00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:12,377 [dramatic music playing] 322 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:15,546 [Lisa] Sadie and I found out about the first reunion 323 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:17,715 and it was too late for us to come to 324 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:19,517 and Sadie was devastated, 325 00:15:19,551 --> 00:15:21,119 and she wanted to come on her own 326 00:15:21,153 --> 00:15:22,487 and I had to explain that 327 00:15:22,521 --> 00:15:23,855 we really didn't know anyone yet. 328 00:15:23,889 --> 00:15:26,791 And I promised her that the next one, 329 00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:30,361 that we would come to no matter what. 330 00:15:30,396 --> 00:15:32,063 [Amanda] When I got with Cindy, 331 00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:34,165 I said I will not be with you 332 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:35,700 - unless we can have a child. - We can have kids. 333 00:15:35,734 --> 00:15:37,335 And at that point, we didn't know 334 00:15:37,369 --> 00:15:39,637 any other gay people to begin with, much less 335 00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:42,473 any other people that had children for sure. 336 00:15:42,508 --> 00:15:44,776 For her to have not only a connection to other families 337 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:46,477 that are similar to ours but then also to have 338 00:15:46,512 --> 00:15:49,347 a half-sibling or relation to that connection. 339 00:15:49,381 --> 00:15:52,483 And it's just bigger than we could ever dream 340 00:15:52,518 --> 00:15:54,719 - and it's beautiful. - [woman] Best ever. 341 00:15:54,753 --> 00:15:56,788 - [woman] [indistinct] - Hey. 342 00:15:56,822 --> 00:15:58,523 [woman] I'm just gonna talk to you later. 343 00:15:58,557 --> 00:15:59,991 [woman] Hey, Nate. 344 00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:03,728 [indistinct chatter] 345 00:16:03,762 --> 00:16:04,896 [Mattie] I've been looking forward 346 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:06,531 to going to the Cryrobank 347 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:08,833 just to like see what it's all about. 348 00:16:08,867 --> 00:16:11,102 It's just weird going somewhere that he's been 349 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:13,037 because I know that I've always, like, 350 00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:15,506 imagined in my head ever since I was a little girl, 351 00:16:15,541 --> 00:16:19,010 "Oh, I wonder, like, how my dad is or, 352 00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:20,912 like, what he's doing or where he's been." 353 00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:23,348 So it's just, kind of, like a weird feeling. 354 00:16:23,382 --> 00:16:25,283 Like Mattie said, since I was young, 355 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,352 I've always had this really, like, 356 00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:29,454 profound curiosity to, like, know he is. 357 00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:32,123 So I guess whenever I go places, like, 358 00:16:32,157 --> 00:16:33,958 when I went to New York. I was like, 359 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:36,127 "Oh, I bet he walked here. I bet he's been here before." 360 00:16:36,161 --> 00:16:38,229 And when we go to the California Cryrobank, 361 00:16:38,263 --> 00:16:39,897 we will know for sure he's been here before. 362 00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:42,000 So that's, kind of, like, a weird feeling 363 00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:44,202 but I'm excited. 364 00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:47,238 [dramatic music playing] 365 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,881 [Dr. Cappy] Hello. 366 00:16:56,915 --> 00:16:59,784 Hello, welcome to the California Cryrobank. 367 00:16:59,818 --> 00:17:01,953 It's wonderful to see everybody. 368 00:17:01,987 --> 00:17:04,489 Whether you realize it or not, 369 00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:07,792 you're a brand new generation of what's taking place. 370 00:17:07,826 --> 00:17:10,528 I mean, all of a sudden, from individuals 371 00:17:10,562 --> 00:17:12,630 you become an extended family, 372 00:17:12,664 --> 00:17:14,399 in two or three generations, wow, 373 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:16,701 what an extended family you're gonna be. 374 00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:23,674 All right. So this is our cryogenic center 375 00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:27,612 and we distribute about 30 plus thousands of sperm 376 00:17:27,646 --> 00:17:29,514 every year all over the world. 377 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,349 And I would think that at this time, 378 00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:33,785 we probably have about 65 379 00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:36,988 to maybe 70,000 children born. 380 00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:40,792 And by looking at your group as an example, 381 00:17:40,859 --> 00:17:42,960 we're doing a good job. 382 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,829 So somebody asked about sperm. 383 00:17:44,863 --> 00:17:47,432 So right here, you can see the ampules, 384 00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:49,767 their sperm when it came. Want to... 385 00:17:49,802 --> 00:17:51,636 Anybody want to take and interesting picture? 386 00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:55,773 Whoa. 387 00:17:59,711 --> 00:18:01,179 How's that for a birthday cake? 388 00:18:01,213 --> 00:18:02,580 [indistinct chatter] 389 00:18:02,614 --> 00:18:04,582 Happy birthday. 390 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:07,752 [Latrice] I'm Latrice Allen. 391 00:18:07,786 --> 00:18:11,589 I'm the donor matching counselor. 392 00:18:11,623 --> 00:18:13,424 Initially when clients 393 00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:14,926 are coming in and they need help 394 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,195 with making a selection of the donor, 395 00:18:17,229 --> 00:18:18,930 they generally will send me a picture 396 00:18:18,964 --> 00:18:20,565 of whomever they're trying to match 397 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,133 and I try to find a donor 398 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:25,002 that has the same similar characteristics. 399 00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:27,038 And then at the end of that, 400 00:18:27,072 --> 00:18:29,540 when the offsprings are turning 18, 401 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,742 they're calling me to help them find 402 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,811 their donors if possible. 403 00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:36,681 Who's the oldest of... Out of all the offsprings? 404 00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:38,116 - How old are you? - Fifteen. 405 00:18:38,183 --> 00:18:39,817 [Latrice] You're 15? So I would imagine 406 00:18:39,852 --> 00:18:41,853 that you would be the first one that would call me 407 00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:43,554 to find out if we could get in contact with the owner. 408 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:44,922 On my 18th birthday. 409 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:45,890 [Latrice] What donor number? 410 00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:48,926 [all] 5114. 411 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,194 [Latrice] Basically what happens 412 00:18:50,229 --> 00:18:52,196 with anonymous contact, if the donor 413 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:53,898 still wants to remain anonymous, 414 00:18:53,932 --> 00:18:55,900 he doesn't wanna release his identity. 415 00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,169 However, he's willing to participate 416 00:18:58,203 --> 00:18:59,470 in some type of communication 417 00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:01,072 that's facilitated through me. 418 00:19:01,106 --> 00:19:03,908 So, I will have the offspring send me a bio. 419 00:19:03,942 --> 00:19:06,110 Maybe a list of questions, some photos 420 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,745 if they're comfortable with doing that, 421 00:19:07,779 --> 00:19:10,248 I'll cut and paste, email that to the donor, 422 00:19:10,282 --> 00:19:12,483 the donor responds, cut and paste, send it back, 423 00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:14,952 we play Ping-Pong until the donor says, 424 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:16,287 you know, "Have a great life." 425 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:17,989 I have answered all your questions. 426 00:19:18,023 --> 00:19:20,791 I wish you the best." Or, "I feel comfortable enough 427 00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,762 to have this person have my contact information." 428 00:19:24,796 --> 00:19:26,797 A lot of these donors are married. 429 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,232 They have their own children. 430 00:19:28,267 --> 00:19:29,967 So some of them have discussed it 431 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:31,802 with their wives, some of them haven't. 432 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:33,304 I find that the ones 433 00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:35,072 that haven't discussed it with their wives 434 00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:37,108 are a little bit more apprehensive 435 00:19:37,142 --> 00:19:39,877 about having any type of communication. 436 00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:43,214 I can generally talk them into anonymous communication, 437 00:19:43,248 --> 00:19:45,783 especially if they say no right off the bat. 438 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:47,652 So it's, you know, just give us this. 439 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:50,755 These kids are not looking for a father figure, 440 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:53,424 they're looking for a missing piece to their puzzle. 441 00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:56,460 [dramatic music playing] 442 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:09,340 [woman] I'd love to, like, analyze it. 443 00:20:10,609 --> 00:20:12,109 - Oh, my gosh. - [man] Is it... 444 00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:13,778 Is that real speed? 445 00:20:13,812 --> 00:20:15,813 [man] That is real speed, yeah. 446 00:20:16,848 --> 00:20:17,982 [woman] What? 447 00:20:20,252 --> 00:20:23,454 [Margot] We're checking out actual sperm in microscopes 448 00:20:23,488 --> 00:20:25,456 and on the screen, 449 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:27,258 checking it where it all began. 450 00:20:31,096 --> 00:20:33,564 What's your favorite one? 451 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,800 Only one of those guys is gonna be the winner. 452 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:40,304 [woman] When you talk about with your siblings, 453 00:20:40,339 --> 00:20:41,639 like, when you saw the tanks 454 00:20:41,673 --> 00:20:43,207 and when you saw the dry ice or... 455 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,409 I don't know. It's just weird to know that, like, 456 00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:47,645 part of us has been here before. 457 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:49,413 [Dr. Cappy] Mattie, how is it having 458 00:20:49,448 --> 00:20:51,649 so many new siblings? 459 00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:54,051 I like them all. They're great. 460 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:55,886 Thank you so much. 461 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,221 [Dr. Cappy] And thanks for coming, 462 00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:59,657 - I'm sorry you're leaving. - Oh, me too. 463 00:20:59,691 --> 00:21:01,659 I wish I could stay forever. 464 00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:11,502 [Sadie] I'm glad I went to the Cryrobank 465 00:21:11,536 --> 00:21:14,038 but at the same time it made me feel a little bit 466 00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:16,107 like we're not empty, but... 467 00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:17,675 we didn't really get more answers. 468 00:21:17,709 --> 00:21:18,676 - I don't know. - We didn't... 469 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:19,977 I'm glad I went but I... 470 00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,313 we didn't really get more answers, 471 00:21:22,347 --> 00:21:23,814 but I think it was good to just see 472 00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,017 where it all began. 473 00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:28,486 Even if the donor wanted to meet us 474 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,621 and we opened up to meeting him as well, 475 00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:32,290 they couldn't connect us 476 00:21:32,324 --> 00:21:34,025 and I don't really think that's really fair. 477 00:21:34,059 --> 00:21:35,626 I don't think there's any practical reason 478 00:21:35,661 --> 00:21:37,295 why you should say no 479 00:21:37,329 --> 00:21:40,598 if both sides are open to contact. 480 00:21:42,534 --> 00:21:44,201 [Alexis] I think as soon as someone's 481 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:45,970 close to turning 18, I think we'll probably have 482 00:21:46,004 --> 00:21:47,805 like a countdown or something. 483 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:49,273 - [Sadie] Yeah. - [Alexis] But I don't think 484 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:50,808 we should get our hopes too high up 485 00:21:50,842 --> 00:21:52,476 because there's a good chance he'll say no, 486 00:21:52,511 --> 00:21:55,046 but we can get excited about it. 487 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,180 Mmm-hmm. 488 00:22:02,587 --> 00:22:05,389 [Danny] That was my first time swimming in the ocean. 489 00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:06,590 - Ever? - Uh-huh. 490 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,392 - Are you serious? - Yes. I... 491 00:22:08,427 --> 00:22:09,760 Where have you been all your life? 492 00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,230 Not like this on the east, though. 493 00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:15,533 [woman] Grab your bag, Nathan. 494 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,767 This is it. 495 00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:19,103 Anybody claim these socks? Ray? 496 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:20,404 [indistinct chatter] 497 00:22:20,439 --> 00:22:21,739 [woman] I think that there's a phone 498 00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:23,040 - underneath the bed. - [man] Oh, good, 499 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:24,942 because we're missing two. 500 00:22:24,976 --> 00:22:26,610 [Alexis] The hardest part of the trip, I think 501 00:22:26,645 --> 00:22:29,046 is just knowing that you have to leave. 502 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,448 [Sadie] It's gonna be a while probably 503 00:22:30,482 --> 00:22:32,550 until we see each other. 504 00:22:32,584 --> 00:22:34,352 [woman] Oh, yeah. 505 00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:35,753 [indistinct chatter] 506 00:22:35,787 --> 00:22:37,254 [woman] The kids are already starting 507 00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:40,791 to anticipate their goodbyes. 508 00:22:40,826 --> 00:22:43,294 There's a lot of emotions flowing. 509 00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,332 [Nick] I'm thankful that all the families 510 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,000 let us come and let us have 511 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,570 the opportunity to do all this. 512 00:22:52,604 --> 00:22:54,105 [Neylan] I just think it's really bittersweet 513 00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:56,006 but you can definitely feel the love 514 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,843 and how much we're gonna miss one another. 515 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:00,611 [Danny] Every time, it gets a bit harder 516 00:23:00,645 --> 00:23:03,414 to say goodbye, but it's reassuring to know 517 00:23:03,448 --> 00:23:04,815 that we'll have another one 518 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:07,017 of these visits again sometime soon. 519 00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:16,193 [dramatic music playing] 520 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,863 [Latrice] So two of the moms, Brandy and Fran, 521 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,031 approached me after their visit 522 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,800 and was curious to know 523 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:25,002 if we had any additional vials 524 00:23:25,036 --> 00:23:27,171 from donor 5114. 525 00:23:27,205 --> 00:23:29,017 And we did a little research 526 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:32,076 and found that we had an abandoned purchase 527 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:34,011 and storage account where the client 528 00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:35,646 didn't pay for the vial. 529 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,481 So, they were deemed abandoned 530 00:23:37,516 --> 00:23:39,817 and we were able to take those vials back 531 00:23:39,851 --> 00:23:41,185 and make those available 532 00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:44,622 for Brandy and Fran. 533 00:23:44,656 --> 00:23:47,691 The chances of having vials from a donor, 534 00:23:47,726 --> 00:23:51,462 from that far back is just, like, pretty unlikely. 535 00:23:51,496 --> 00:23:53,998 As far as we know, the vials that we found 536 00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:56,267 were the two last vials that we have 537 00:23:56,301 --> 00:23:59,737 or will have available on donor 5114 538 00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:02,673 and we wish them all the best. 539 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:09,013 [wind blowing] 540 00:24:11,082 --> 00:24:12,716 [Brandy] So this is the cane 541 00:24:12,751 --> 00:24:14,852 that the specimen comes in 542 00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:17,054 and the vial is clipped 543 00:24:17,088 --> 00:24:19,356 into this little cane. 544 00:24:19,391 --> 00:24:22,059 And this is the vial. This is all we get. 545 00:24:22,093 --> 00:24:23,427 This is our shot. 546 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:24,929 It's not very much, 547 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:27,531 but hopefully it'll do the trick. 548 00:24:27,566 --> 00:24:29,633 [Francesca] We just need one. 549 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:31,168 [Brandy] We've been together almost eight years 550 00:24:31,203 --> 00:24:32,703 and it was pretty cool 551 00:24:32,737 --> 00:24:35,539 because Francesca and I never would have thought 552 00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:38,242 that this could have been a possibility for us. 553 00:24:38,276 --> 00:24:40,878 [Francesca] I knew that we were getting ready to try. 554 00:24:40,912 --> 00:24:43,981 Our goal was, like, within the next six months. 555 00:24:44,015 --> 00:24:45,082 I mean it was just like destiny 556 00:24:45,116 --> 00:24:46,684 that this was just frozen 557 00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,085 just waiting for me to mature... 558 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,386 - Grow up? - ...and get old enough 559 00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:52,556 and grow up to be able to use them. 560 00:24:52,591 --> 00:24:53,591 [Brandy] This is the vial. 561 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,260 This is the 5114 vial. 562 00:24:56,294 --> 00:24:59,497 This is the sperm that come in here 563 00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:00,998 - that we used get... - Is this actually 5114? 564 00:25:01,032 --> 00:25:02,233 ...pregnant. Yeah. 565 00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:05,736 - That's pretty small, huh? - It's... 566 00:25:05,770 --> 00:25:07,438 they're still stuff in there? 567 00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:08,906 [Brandy] Probably. 568 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:10,774 Besides the... 569 00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:11,876 yellow thing? 570 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,210 [Brandy] I wouldn't open it. 571 00:25:13,245 --> 00:25:15,446 I'm not going to. 572 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,882 [Danny] It's crazy to think that I was like 573 00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:20,251 once in a tiny little container like this 574 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,586 being shipped off to New Mexico 575 00:25:22,621 --> 00:25:24,221 and that I came in 576 00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:26,323 this just little tiny container. 577 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:27,558 It was just neat thinking like 578 00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:28,492 that could be your brother 579 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,394 and, or sister in there. 580 00:25:30,428 --> 00:25:33,163 Just this little thing could change your whole future. 581 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:35,232 It's pretty crazy. 582 00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:36,767 I'm really nervous for tomorrow 583 00:25:36,801 --> 00:25:40,204 when we find out if my mom is pregnant or not. 584 00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:42,540 It would be definitely cool if she is, 585 00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:43,874 to have another half-sibling 586 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:45,743 and it'll be cool 587 00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:48,045 to have another addition to my family. 588 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,015 [dramatic music playing] 589 00:25:57,188 --> 00:26:00,791 [Brandy] I'm excited but I'm pretty nervous. 590 00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:02,560 This could be like... 591 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:06,897 a new life for us 592 00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:11,402 with a baby or keep trying, so... 593 00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:14,705 I'm just a little nervous... 594 00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:18,509 excited. 595 00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:21,612 I can't wait to see what it shows. 596 00:26:21,646 --> 00:26:22,880 But I'm nervous. 597 00:26:24,983 --> 00:26:28,185 Fran, do you want to use the digital or the other one? 598 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,190 Yeah. 599 00:26:33,224 --> 00:26:34,992 - Here we go. - Here we go. 600 00:26:35,026 --> 00:26:37,928 [dramatic music playing] 601 00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:04,154 [indistinct] 602 00:27:08,393 --> 00:27:10,427 We've been waiting for a long time. 603 00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:17,001 Maybe this test is a dud. 604 00:27:17,035 --> 00:27:18,702 Yeah. 605 00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:20,404 [Brandy] It's on a timer right now 606 00:27:20,438 --> 00:27:22,072 - and it'll tell us... - [Francesca] I think it says 607 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:23,941 three minutes, so. 608 00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:26,443 You're so shaky. 609 00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:28,045 [Brandy] I know. 610 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,447 A little more pressure this time than the last time. 611 00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:36,787 [dramatic music playing] 612 00:27:41,926 --> 00:27:44,161 [Francesca crying] 613 00:27:53,271 --> 00:27:54,738 Next time. 614 00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:58,876 I love you. 615 00:27:58,910 --> 00:27:59,777 I love you, too. 616 00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:01,612 I'm proud of you. 617 00:28:01,646 --> 00:28:04,548 [dramatic music playing] 618 00:28:10,288 --> 00:28:11,655 It's a new journey for us, though, 619 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,424 because you've never had to keep trying. 620 00:28:13,458 --> 00:28:14,825 I know. 621 00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:16,126 I don't know what this feels like. 622 00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:17,461 The last time it was positive 623 00:28:17,495 --> 00:28:19,830 the first try. 624 00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:21,565 It's okay. 625 00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:24,501 [dramatic music playing] 626 00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:42,286 [Lorie] So we're in Provo, Utah. 627 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,288 I'm here for a parent conference 628 00:28:44,322 --> 00:28:48,325 at Nathan's new school. 629 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,361 He's been here for five months today. 630 00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,030 And it's a... 631 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,133 therapeutic boarding school, 632 00:28:56,167 --> 00:28:58,235 is where he's at now. 633 00:28:58,269 --> 00:28:59,837 And he... 634 00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:02,239 he was having some struggles in his school in Denver. 635 00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:04,575 And at the end of the first semester 636 00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:06,477 of ninth grade, 637 00:29:06,511 --> 00:29:11,215 he didn't pass many of his classes. 638 00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:14,218 There were relationship issues at home 639 00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:18,255 and some behaviors that were concerning. 640 00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:21,091 He didn't wanna go to therapy. 641 00:29:21,126 --> 00:29:22,860 And he was past the point 642 00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:24,528 where I could just pick him up and put him in the car 643 00:29:24,562 --> 00:29:25,896 and take him places. 644 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,898 So when I decided to send him away, 645 00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:29,566 I could either let him know 646 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,668 what was going to be coming, 647 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:36,807 or they show up at your door at 3:00 AM 648 00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:40,511 and wake your child up and take them. 649 00:29:40,545 --> 00:29:43,847 And I was afraid if I told him 650 00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:46,316 what would be coming, that he would run away, 651 00:29:46,351 --> 00:29:48,352 and I didn't want him out on the streets, 652 00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,554 I didn't want him, you know, 653 00:29:50,588 --> 00:29:52,489 to disappear. 654 00:29:52,524 --> 00:29:54,158 So, I chose the path 655 00:29:54,192 --> 00:29:57,895 of having them come at 3:00 AM. 656 00:29:57,929 --> 00:29:59,930 It was the hardest thing I ever did. 657 00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:05,335 And he was angry. 658 00:30:07,906 --> 00:30:10,307 Well, one day, like, kinda early in the morning, 659 00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:12,543 two guys just like showed up in my room 660 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:14,244 and didn't really explain, 661 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:15,512 like, what they were doing, 662 00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:17,581 but they just kind of said like, 663 00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:19,082 "Either you could just come with us to 664 00:30:19,117 --> 00:30:21,418 the airport or, like, we could handcuff you 665 00:30:21,452 --> 00:30:24,221 and, like, put you in the car and take you to the airport." 666 00:30:24,255 --> 00:30:26,690 So then I just went with them. 667 00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:28,859 When they woke me up, I saw her in my room 668 00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:30,227 but she didn't really talk to me, 669 00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:32,262 she just said, "I love you, really. 670 00:30:32,297 --> 00:30:34,998 I'm sorry," or something, and just walked out. 671 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:37,000 I guess when I got here, I was pretty confused 672 00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:39,469 because I didn't really, like, know how things worked. 673 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,738 And then also angry at my mom 674 00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:45,142 because I felt like betrayed. 675 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:48,045 Being an only parent was... 676 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,813 in hindsight now, it's... 677 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,716 It was not as easy as I thought it would be. 678 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:54,251 You don't have the checks and balances, 679 00:30:54,285 --> 00:30:57,020 you don't have someone there to say, 680 00:30:57,055 --> 00:30:58,388 you know, "Is that the way you wanted 681 00:30:58,423 --> 00:30:59,756 to handle that situation?" 682 00:30:59,791 --> 00:31:02,025 It's just you and your kid, you know? 683 00:31:04,329 --> 00:31:07,464 And so I was... I was a little controlling, 684 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:09,366 I was critical, 685 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,202 and I think that it was hard 686 00:31:12,237 --> 00:31:14,571 not having anyone else. 687 00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,074 Like, not knowing my dad hasn't really... 688 00:31:17,108 --> 00:31:18,876 I don't think it's like caused any problems 689 00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:21,278 between me and my mom, 690 00:31:21,312 --> 00:31:23,780 even though she thinks that as, like, 691 00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:25,883 when I'm angry with her, she'll ask me, like, 692 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:28,752 is it because you, like, don't know your dad? 693 00:31:28,786 --> 00:31:31,455 When she asked me that, I just tell her, like, 694 00:31:31,489 --> 00:31:33,457 it's not true because it really isn't. 695 00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:36,360 I don't really care. 696 00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:37,494 [Lorie] You know, what I'm hoping 697 00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:39,663 is that we can fix 698 00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:42,065 what has gone wrong 699 00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:45,302 and move on and enjoy each other 700 00:31:45,336 --> 00:31:49,206 for, you know, from here on out. 701 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,241 [indistinct chatter] 702 00:31:56,514 --> 00:31:58,916 [Nathan] Heritage wanted to bring all the parents 703 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:00,651 and the kids over to a ropes course 704 00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:03,387 so that families going can, like, 705 00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:06,957 help build trust and work on their relationship. 706 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:08,725 I don't know, I don't think you can really, like, 707 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,928 fix a relationship with a ropes course. 708 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:14,398 [Lorie] Holy smokes. 709 00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:17,634 [laughs] 710 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:19,369 Oh, my God. 711 00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:22,039 [dramatic music playing] 712 00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:23,941 I'm only gonna get, like, two steps. 713 00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:26,176 [laughs] 714 00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:27,644 - I can't lift. - Why? 715 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:29,513 Because it's hard to lift this weight up. 716 00:32:29,547 --> 00:32:31,181 - You think it's easy? - [indistinct] 717 00:32:31,215 --> 00:32:34,718 [Lorie] I weigh about as much as a car. 718 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,553 I am planning on pushing myself 719 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:37,988 out of my comfort zone. 720 00:32:38,022 --> 00:32:39,723 I think it's important for Nathan 721 00:32:39,757 --> 00:32:43,193 to see how important this is to me. 722 00:32:43,227 --> 00:32:45,395 And if I bug out and say, 723 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:47,397 "I don't wanna do it," 724 00:32:47,432 --> 00:32:49,933 what message is that sending to him, you know? 725 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,202 That he's not worth me 726 00:32:52,236 --> 00:32:54,504 getting a little uncomfortable. 727 00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:58,709 So I'm terrified 728 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:01,878 but I'm gonna go a little bit farther 729 00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:04,781 than I thought I could go. 730 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,150 - [woman] Okay. I just want... - [man] Yeah. Me, too. 731 00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:11,054 - [woman] Did you grab it? - [woman] Yeah. 732 00:33:11,089 --> 00:33:12,723 [man] It'll suspend you. 733 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:14,658 It'll suspend you like a bridge. 734 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,693 [man] There you go. Yes. Way to go. 735 00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:18,261 Good job. 736 00:33:18,296 --> 00:33:21,231 [indistinct chatter] 737 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:27,270 [man] You have the strength in the middle. 738 00:33:27,305 --> 00:33:28,905 Strength's in the middle. 739 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,008 [indistinct chatter] 740 00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:33,110 [Nathan] Push on me. Push on my arms. 741 00:33:34,545 --> 00:33:36,113 Oh. 742 00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:37,914 - [woman] We got her. - [woman] We got her. 743 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,017 - [man] Oh. Good job. - [woman] Okay. 744 00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:42,619 Good job. Look it up. 745 00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:43,920 [Lorie] Okay. He's good. 746 00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,023 He's too fast. 747 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:47,124 [woman] Great. 748 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,594 [woman] Good job. 749 00:33:50,628 --> 00:33:53,897 [Lorie] Oh, good try. 750 00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:55,766 - [man] Good job. - [Lorie] Awesome. 751 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,900 [Nathan] I missed. 752 00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:59,870 [dramatic music playing] 753 00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:05,075 Oh, my God. I'm doing this. 754 00:34:05,109 --> 00:34:07,277 Okay. Well, we'll see how far I get. 755 00:34:07,311 --> 00:34:08,445 [laughs] 756 00:34:08,479 --> 00:34:09,579 Are you gonna go upside down? 757 00:34:09,614 --> 00:34:11,448 Yeah, right. 758 00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,216 Yeah, that's my style. 759 00:34:14,986 --> 00:34:17,087 Shit. 760 00:34:17,121 --> 00:34:19,456 [woman] Keep your eyes on your goal. 761 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:20,824 Climbing. 762 00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:24,494 Push up good with your left leg. 763 00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:31,334 Push with that left leg with everything you got. 764 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:32,903 [woman] Yeah, push your leg. 765 00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:35,939 [Lorie panting] 766 00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:37,774 [Lorie] I think I'm stuck. 767 00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:40,944 I can't... 768 00:34:40,978 --> 00:34:42,512 - Bring your right foot up. - [woman] It's okay. 769 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,281 - Shit. - [woman] Nathan, 770 00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:45,449 make her hear your voice. 771 00:34:45,483 --> 00:34:47,918 "Mom, try one more step." 772 00:34:47,952 --> 00:34:49,920 [Nathan] Mom, before you give up, try to... 773 00:34:49,954 --> 00:34:51,822 - There you go. - [woman] Go. Go. 774 00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:53,190 [woman] She's gonna hear your voice 775 00:34:53,224 --> 00:34:54,958 - over anybody else's. - [Lorie gasping] 776 00:34:54,992 --> 00:34:56,760 [woman] Don't look go down, you can take one more step. 777 00:34:56,794 --> 00:34:58,795 - [man] Done. - [Lorie] I'm done. 778 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,899 [man] Grab the rope. 779 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,234 - Put your weight back. - [Lorie gasping] 780 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,669 [woman] There you go, there you go, 781 00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:07,604 - there you go. - You're fine, you're fine. 782 00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:11,508 There you go. 783 00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:14,644 [man] Hey, good job for trying. 784 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,513 [woman] Okay. Your legs are gonna be wobbly. 785 00:35:16,547 --> 00:35:18,415 Your legs are gonna be wobbly so just sit right down. 786 00:35:20,551 --> 00:35:22,519 Okay, Lorie, you are awesome. 787 00:35:22,553 --> 00:35:24,187 - [man] Good job trying. - [woman] Really good job. 788 00:35:24,222 --> 00:35:25,689 - [man] Great job. - You're gonna wanna find 789 00:35:25,723 --> 00:35:27,390 somewhere just to sit and kinda shake it out 790 00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:29,159 - a little bit. - Okay. 791 00:35:29,193 --> 00:35:30,560 - Yeah, I don't know... Okay. - Okay? 792 00:35:30,595 --> 00:35:32,062 Did you hear Nathan talking to you? 793 00:35:32,096 --> 00:35:33,763 No, I didn't hear anything. 794 00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,332 [woman] I thought if you were gonna hear anyone, 795 00:35:35,366 --> 00:35:36,900 you would hear him over us. 796 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:38,635 - Good job. - Good try. 797 00:35:38,669 --> 00:35:39,836 [man] Are you tight? 798 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,708 Oh, that was scary. 799 00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:46,910 Super, super intimidating, huh? 800 00:35:46,944 --> 00:35:48,645 Really, really amazing. 801 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,514 I don't know if you realize how far you were, 802 00:35:50,548 --> 00:35:52,516 but you were halfway up that pole. 803 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:53,717 - [man] Yeah. - Halfway up the pole. 804 00:35:53,751 --> 00:35:54,918 You pushed yourself. Good job. 805 00:35:54,952 --> 00:35:56,153 You did. 806 00:35:56,187 --> 00:35:57,254 And you took the one more step 807 00:35:57,288 --> 00:35:58,599 even when you didn't want to. 808 00:35:58,623 --> 00:36:00,056 - Yeah. - [woman] We're good. 809 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:01,057 [man] We're good. 810 00:36:01,092 --> 00:36:03,059 [cheerful music playing] 811 00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,427 [Nathan] I didn't really, like, 812 00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:06,062 have any set goals coming here, 813 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,064 but I know, like, I was gonna try 814 00:36:08,099 --> 00:36:11,468 to do my best on all the courses or activities. 815 00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:13,770 And I think I did that. 816 00:36:13,804 --> 00:36:16,740 [cheerful music playing] 817 00:36:18,609 --> 00:36:19,943 [Lorie] I was happy with the experience. 818 00:36:19,977 --> 00:36:21,311 It gave me a little confidence 819 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:22,712 that I could something 820 00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:24,614 that I was terrified of doing. 821 00:36:24,649 --> 00:36:26,783 I took one step more than I thought I could. 822 00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:28,919 So I was happy with that. 823 00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:30,820 I think there was, like, one course 824 00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:33,089 that helped me and my mom, 825 00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:36,159 like, kinda like build a little bit more trust. 826 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,494 - I don't know what to call it. - The wires? 827 00:36:37,528 --> 00:36:38,962 - The two wires. - Yeah. 828 00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:42,032 The wires where you have to support each other. 829 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:44,968 He approached every obstacle 830 00:36:45,002 --> 00:36:47,971 with such confidence and... 831 00:36:48,005 --> 00:36:49,573 But I didn't see you back down from anything. 832 00:36:49,607 --> 00:36:51,608 You didn't... you didn't walk away, 833 00:36:51,642 --> 00:36:52,809 you didn't give up. 834 00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:55,445 You tried your hardest, you know? 835 00:36:55,479 --> 00:36:57,314 And that's all I can ask. 836 00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:02,185 You should do your best. 837 00:37:04,922 --> 00:37:06,656 And it made me really proud. 838 00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:11,361 [dramatic music playing] 839 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:17,867 [Nancy] You have to see. 840 00:37:20,838 --> 00:37:22,639 These are heavier than you think they'd be. 841 00:37:22,673 --> 00:37:23,940 - [Hannah] Are they? - Yeah. 842 00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:25,475 - [Hannah] Are those snails? - Yeah. 843 00:37:25,509 --> 00:37:29,479 [dramatic music playing] 844 00:37:29,513 --> 00:37:32,148 [Nancy] I have two kids from donor 5114. 845 00:37:32,183 --> 00:37:34,517 Johnny who will be 15 in a few weeks 846 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:37,053 and Hannah who's 12 and a half. 847 00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,990 And I think our journey to joining up 848 00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:41,491 with the other kids 849 00:37:41,525 --> 00:37:43,293 has been a little bit different. 850 00:37:43,327 --> 00:37:45,729 They just haven't really seemed 851 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:47,964 to feel the need and the pull 852 00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:50,467 that some of the other kids do to get together 853 00:37:50,501 --> 00:37:51,935 and get to know the others 854 00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:55,272 and I've been wanting to follow them 855 00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:57,507 and let their wisdom and comfort 856 00:37:57,541 --> 00:37:59,109 sort of guide the journey. 857 00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:01,111 [dramatic music playing] 858 00:38:01,145 --> 00:38:04,014 [Hannah] I haven't always wanted to meet my siblings 859 00:38:04,048 --> 00:38:06,016 and I was really nervous. 860 00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:07,584 The biggest surprise 861 00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:10,287 is not what anybody's like or what they look like 862 00:38:10,321 --> 00:38:12,022 because I've seen pictures of all of them. 863 00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:14,691 It's really that I keep forgetting 864 00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:16,259 that I'm related to them 865 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,862 and then I'll just... It'll just hit me 866 00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:20,263 and I'll remember it and I'm like, 867 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,332 "Wait, these people are like my family. 868 00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:25,235 And it's just kind of cool and strange 869 00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:27,404 at the same time." 870 00:38:27,438 --> 00:38:30,907 [Elisa] When we drove up to have this mini reunion, 871 00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:33,209 I was extremely nervous. 872 00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:35,111 I had worked for three quarters of the day 873 00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:36,913 at my job and I... 874 00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:38,682 When walked in my office that morning, 875 00:38:38,716 --> 00:38:40,016 I told my coworkers, 876 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:41,551 "I'm on another planet." 877 00:38:41,585 --> 00:38:45,355 And I just had this crazy energy in me 878 00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:49,025 ever since we got in the car to drive up here. 879 00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:50,527 [Lily] I used to be very nervous, like, 880 00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:52,395 I was about to throw up when I was about 881 00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:53,697 to meet my siblings 882 00:38:53,731 --> 00:38:54,964 because it really does matter. 883 00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:56,666 Like, you're meeting... It's one thing 884 00:38:56,701 --> 00:38:58,401 where you're just meeting someone for the first time, 885 00:38:58,436 --> 00:39:00,904 but it's another being related to them. 886 00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:03,306 And having this huge, like, biological connection, 887 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,242 like, you have no idea how that's gonna turn out. 888 00:39:06,277 --> 00:39:09,279 [rain pattering] 889 00:39:09,313 --> 00:39:11,748 [Lily] And you have a huge family. 890 00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:13,450 - Is it a crazy family? - Well, from what I've heard, 891 00:39:13,484 --> 00:39:15,218 you have a huge family, too. 892 00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:18,121 - One person. - She doesn't even 893 00:39:18,155 --> 00:39:20,423 understand the joke. 894 00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,791 How can I work with this? 895 00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:23,693 [laughs] Okay. Okay. 896 00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:25,095 Do you mean this family? 897 00:39:25,129 --> 00:39:27,197 Yeah, this is part of your family too. 898 00:39:27,231 --> 00:39:29,099 Got you. 899 00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:30,767 [Neylan] I think meeting your siblings 900 00:39:30,801 --> 00:39:32,836 and how comfortable you feel around them 901 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,437 kind of depends on their age 902 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:36,239 because if they're older, you're gonna be like, 903 00:39:36,273 --> 00:39:38,241 "Well, are they gonna think I'm took kiddish? 904 00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:40,643 Are they gonna get annoyed by me and stuff?" 905 00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:42,412 But then if they're younger, you're like, 906 00:39:42,446 --> 00:39:44,180 "Am I gonna get along with them?" 907 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,082 Are they gonna like stuff that I've grown out of? 908 00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:48,485 "Or are we gonna get along better?" 909 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,820 [Sadie] It's kinda hard that there's so many 910 00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:52,756 because I don't know, it just seems not as special 911 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:54,457 if there are, like, as many... 912 00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,926 Like, the... There's a huge quantity of siblings 913 00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:59,129 and it's not as special as if there's a few. 914 00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:00,130 - But... - And it's kind of hard 915 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:02,031 because, like, 916 00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:04,434 there's always gonna be someone that gets left out 917 00:40:04,468 --> 00:40:06,002 or can't come to a reunion 918 00:40:06,036 --> 00:40:08,438 and that their feelings are gonna be hurt sometimes 919 00:40:08,472 --> 00:40:10,240 but you can't please everyone 920 00:40:10,274 --> 00:40:11,841 with 21 siblings. 921 00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,343 [rain pattering] 922 00:40:13,377 --> 00:40:15,812 [Nancy] I think there has to be some quality 923 00:40:15,846 --> 00:40:17,814 in all of us that we, 924 00:40:17,848 --> 00:40:20,417 out of thousands of potential donors, 925 00:40:20,451 --> 00:40:22,685 we zeroed in on that one. 926 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,789 But I have absolutely no interest whatsoever 927 00:40:25,823 --> 00:40:27,624 in knowing who he is. 928 00:40:27,658 --> 00:40:30,527 What we called him when Lily was growing up was the seed. 929 00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:31,928 - [laughter] - Like, I mean, 930 00:40:31,962 --> 00:40:33,630 because he's not... 931 00:40:33,664 --> 00:40:36,733 I don't see him as other than the genes, 932 00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:40,236 I don't see him as being at all related 933 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:41,438 to these kids. 934 00:40:41,472 --> 00:40:43,106 I mean, he didn't raise them, 935 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:44,574 he's not their father, 936 00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,176 he's a seed. 937 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:48,678 I mean, maybe it's because Lily has a father. 938 00:40:48,712 --> 00:40:50,246 You know, when she was seven, 939 00:40:50,281 --> 00:40:52,682 she was adopted by my husband. 940 00:40:52,716 --> 00:40:54,017 - Mmm-hmm. - [Linette] I don't have 941 00:40:54,051 --> 00:40:55,785 any emotional connection to him 942 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:58,488 and it's hard for me to... 943 00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:00,824 I mean, because I do have an emotional connection 944 00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:03,059 with all of you. 945 00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:05,762 And it's hard for me, 946 00:41:05,796 --> 00:41:07,997 like, when somebody had asked 947 00:41:08,032 --> 00:41:11,968 or, you know, where's your dad? 948 00:41:12,002 --> 00:41:13,703 I don't have a dad. 949 00:41:13,737 --> 00:41:16,840 She made up a story about him being eaten by sharks 950 00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:19,476 because she got tired of people asking, 951 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:21,478 you know, where's your... where's your dad? 952 00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:23,146 It's very complicated 953 00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,682 but, you know, 954 00:41:25,716 --> 00:41:28,151 their relationship with each other 955 00:41:28,185 --> 00:41:32,055 is unique. 956 00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:35,058 But their relationship with him 957 00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:37,527 will be a whole different ball game. 958 00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:39,262 Worst that could happen is he would completely 959 00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:40,897 - reject them. - [woman] And that would have 960 00:41:40,931 --> 00:41:42,832 a very negative effect on them. 961 00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:44,334 But then on the other hand, I also think, well, 962 00:41:44,368 --> 00:41:47,136 maybe I'm overestimating 963 00:41:47,171 --> 00:41:48,238 how much that would affect them 964 00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:50,907 because when I think about, 965 00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,977 you know, a father figure or connection to men 966 00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:56,579 who, you know, I'm biologically connected, 967 00:41:56,614 --> 00:41:58,348 too, if he had rejected me, 968 00:41:58,382 --> 00:42:01,251 that would have been horrible, but he was my dad. 969 00:42:01,285 --> 00:42:03,953 [Lisa] For me, that isn't something that says, 970 00:42:03,988 --> 00:42:05,388 "Well, don't go there 971 00:42:05,422 --> 00:42:07,790 because you might get hurt or rejected." 972 00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:09,926 - Mmm-hmm. - That means 973 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,661 - thought needs to go into it. - Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm. 974 00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:14,230 But that's like any relationship, job... 975 00:42:14,265 --> 00:42:15,732 Anything has risks. 976 00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:17,834 [dramatic music playing] 977 00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,410 [Nancy S] I guess one of the differences 978 00:42:27,444 --> 00:42:29,112 between the kids and the moms 979 00:42:29,146 --> 00:42:31,114 is that, as the kids grow older, 980 00:42:31,148 --> 00:42:33,249 the fact that they're donor kids, 981 00:42:33,284 --> 00:42:36,452 for me, fades, it has faded. 982 00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,987 And for them, it doesn't fade, in fact, 983 00:42:38,022 --> 00:42:39,889 I think, may... As they get older 984 00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:41,157 and wanna know more about who they are, 985 00:42:41,191 --> 00:42:42,492 it gets stronger for them. 986 00:42:42,526 --> 00:42:44,160 And I just worry 987 00:42:44,194 --> 00:42:45,795 that they're gonna get caught up 988 00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:49,132 in real strong emotional entanglements 989 00:42:49,166 --> 00:42:51,534 that may be difficult for them 990 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:54,337 to sort out down the road. 991 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,543 [Alexis] The exterior, even though it seems, like, 992 00:43:00,578 --> 00:43:03,046 it's really fun and it's a real good experience 993 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,882 being in this, like, donor situation, 994 00:43:05,916 --> 00:43:08,451 there are just, like, a lot of aspects 995 00:43:08,485 --> 00:43:10,186 about the donor situation 996 00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:12,956 that are painful, 997 00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:15,491 that even little things that just add up, 998 00:43:15,526 --> 00:43:18,962 like, there's this whole other side of your family 999 00:43:18,996 --> 00:43:20,830 that you know nothing about. 1000 00:43:20,864 --> 00:43:24,934 And just having 20 other half-siblings 1001 00:43:24,969 --> 00:43:26,869 is a lot to take in, 1002 00:43:26,904 --> 00:43:28,438 like, you tell people and they say, 1003 00:43:28,472 --> 00:43:30,440 "Oh, that's so cool. Do you know them all?" 1004 00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:33,009 But it's impossible to know them all 1005 00:43:33,043 --> 00:43:36,479 and it's hard to know that you have to share 1006 00:43:36,513 --> 00:43:40,883 the donor with all of these other people. 1007 00:43:40,918 --> 00:43:43,620 And it's just... It's not competition 1008 00:43:43,654 --> 00:43:46,956 but it's hard to explain. 1009 00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:50,827 [dramatic music playing] 1010 00:43:50,861 --> 00:43:53,763 [indistinct chatter] 1011 00:43:56,734 --> 00:43:59,669 [dramatic music playing] 1012 00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:43,513 - [woman] Here you go. - Oh, yeah. 1013 00:44:43,547 --> 00:44:46,282 [woman] Good job, honey. 1014 00:44:46,316 --> 00:44:48,117 Push again for me. Push, push, push, push, push. 1015 00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:49,452 Yeah. There we go. Yeah. 1016 00:44:49,486 --> 00:44:52,188 Perfect. Okay. Okay. 1017 00:44:52,222 --> 00:44:53,356 Push again. Okay. 1018 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:54,590 Take your baby. Take your baby. 1019 00:44:54,625 --> 00:44:56,459 Take your child and grab him. 1020 00:44:56,493 --> 00:44:58,061 Hey, buddy. 1021 00:44:58,095 --> 00:45:00,596 [woman] There you go. You got him. 1022 00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:02,098 - All right. - Baby is disconnected. 1023 00:45:02,132 --> 00:45:03,833 If you wanna go get some O2. 1024 00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:05,301 Okay. 1025 00:45:05,335 --> 00:45:07,537 - [baby crying] - There you go. There we go. 1026 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,510 Congratulations. 1027 00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:18,948 [Brandy] So we had one vial left, 1028 00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:20,316 we just had one more shot 1029 00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:21,451 to be able to get pregnant 1030 00:45:21,485 --> 00:45:23,152 and so we're just grateful 1031 00:45:23,187 --> 00:45:25,788 that the second time, obviously, worked. 1032 00:45:25,823 --> 00:45:27,256 And here he is. 1033 00:45:27,291 --> 00:45:29,492 He's just a perfect blessing. 1034 00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:34,163 [Danny] It's really cool to see them just overwhelmed 1035 00:45:34,198 --> 00:45:36,999 with joy with baby Grayson coming into the family 1036 00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:39,268 and mama Fran being able to have a kid 1037 00:45:39,303 --> 00:45:42,739 from 5114 and be able to, maybe, like, 1038 00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:46,075 link together and be more connected with the others. 1039 00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:48,845 [dramatic music playing] 1040 00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:52,749 [Brandy] Hi, Grayson, does that feel good? 1041 00:45:52,783 --> 00:45:54,584 [Zeke] It's your mom... 1042 00:45:54,618 --> 00:45:56,419 [Brandy] Look at you rocking him. 1043 00:45:56,453 --> 00:45:59,522 You're such a good big brother. 1044 00:45:59,556 --> 00:46:02,258 [Zeke] I think having another brother 1045 00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,093 is really cool 1046 00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:06,929 because once he gets older, 1047 00:46:06,964 --> 00:46:10,867 we might all do 1048 00:46:10,901 --> 00:46:15,404 a lot of fun stuff if we're really close together. 1049 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:18,374 [dramatic music playing] 1050 00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:23,012 [indistinct] baby. 1051 00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:24,714 [Brandy] So, this is Grayson. 1052 00:46:24,748 --> 00:46:27,717 He's the very last 5114. 1053 00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:30,820 He was born on the 25th of August 1054 00:46:30,854 --> 00:46:33,022 at 3:47. 1055 00:46:33,056 --> 00:46:36,392 This family that we have has been primarily 1056 00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:38,394 because of the artificial insemination 1057 00:46:38,428 --> 00:46:39,896 and this donor. 1058 00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:41,564 And we just wanna let our kids know 1059 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:43,199 that we're so blessed 1060 00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:44,534 for each and every one of them 1061 00:46:44,568 --> 00:46:46,369 and that they all mean so much to us 1062 00:46:46,403 --> 00:46:48,704 and we're not the perfect parents, 1063 00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:52,074 but we sure enjoy the journey and being with them 1064 00:46:52,109 --> 00:46:55,845 and trying to learn as we go. 1065 00:46:55,879 --> 00:46:57,914 It kind evens things out because before, 1066 00:46:57,948 --> 00:46:59,182 as you all know, 1067 00:46:59,216 --> 00:47:01,450 we have two moms and a little sister. 1068 00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,485 And it was just me and Zeke. 1069 00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,287 So now, it, kinda, evens out 1070 00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:07,590 the estrogen to testosterone in the house. 1071 00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:09,158 The what? 1072 00:47:09,193 --> 00:47:10,993 [laughs] 1073 00:47:11,028 --> 00:47:12,728 What's that mean? 1074 00:47:12,763 --> 00:47:15,665 [jet ski revving] 1075 00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:27,143 [Nancy C] I was not able to go to the last reunion. 1076 00:47:27,177 --> 00:47:29,712 And when Alexis came back, 1077 00:47:29,746 --> 00:47:33,449 she was very emotionally absent with us 1078 00:47:33,483 --> 00:47:37,587 and so we felt very rejected by her. 1079 00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:40,590 Even from the time I picked her up at the airport, 1080 00:47:40,624 --> 00:47:43,259 you know, she didn't embrace me, 1081 00:47:43,293 --> 00:47:45,761 she didn't say, "Hey, it's great to see you, 1082 00:47:45,796 --> 00:47:47,263 I missed you," 1083 00:47:47,297 --> 00:47:50,099 it was, like, she didn't wanna be home. 1084 00:47:50,133 --> 00:47:51,734 I think the part of it is that... 1085 00:47:51,768 --> 00:47:54,136 About the rejection that my mom and Luke feel 1086 00:47:54,171 --> 00:47:57,039 is that... They feel that, like, at least to me, 1087 00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:59,275 they're not enough, kind of. 1088 00:47:59,309 --> 00:48:02,511 And, I mean, that's not true, 1089 00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:04,380 but it's also a little true. 1090 00:48:04,414 --> 00:48:07,817 Like I do feel this thing missing 1091 00:48:07,851 --> 00:48:09,986 and I do, like, for myself 1092 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:12,488 need to go and fill that. 1093 00:48:14,324 --> 00:48:15,958 So as much as I love them, 1094 00:48:15,993 --> 00:48:18,527 no, they're not enough in some ways. 1095 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:20,229 And, yeah, that's hurtful and... 1096 00:48:20,264 --> 00:48:23,266 But, yeah, that's true, so I can't change that. 1097 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,801 [Nancy C] You know, I will say that I want her 1098 00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:28,871 to love her siblings and I want them to love her 1099 00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:32,842 and I do genuinely feel that way, 1100 00:48:32,876 --> 00:48:35,811 but I also feel that our little family 1101 00:48:35,846 --> 00:48:39,615 is uniquely special because we share 1102 00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:41,217 our day-to-day lives together. 1103 00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,452 And when, you know, when we're depressed, 1104 00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:45,221 when we're sick, we're going through 1105 00:48:45,255 --> 00:48:47,056 all the tough times together. 1106 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:50,526 You can, kind of, juxtapose that to my siblings, 1107 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,728 like, we don't live together 1108 00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:55,865 and we share this huge problem. 1109 00:48:55,899 --> 00:48:59,502 And we're able to empathize with one another 1110 00:48:59,536 --> 00:49:02,672 despite the fact that we live so far away. 1111 00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:07,009 So, that needs to count for something, too. 1112 00:49:07,044 --> 00:49:08,377 [Nancy] I understand that. 1113 00:49:08,412 --> 00:49:10,579 I think that's a really valid point, 1114 00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:13,349 is the affinity that you feel 1115 00:49:13,383 --> 00:49:17,019 because you share this quest, this identity, 1116 00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:19,622 this pursuit that no one else shares with you, 1117 00:49:19,656 --> 00:49:21,557 I completely get that. 1118 00:49:21,591 --> 00:49:25,394 You know, we can empathize with the separation 1119 00:49:25,429 --> 00:49:27,096 that you've experienced from your siblings, 1120 00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:29,098 but I'm simply talking about 1121 00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:32,068 the way we feel, I think, is also very legitimate. 1122 00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:35,338 And I think that you should show empathy for that as well. 1123 00:49:35,372 --> 00:49:37,673 I never even felt, like, "Ugh, I don't wanna be with them," 1124 00:49:37,708 --> 00:49:39,342 I didn't wanna be with anybody, you know, 1125 00:49:39,376 --> 00:49:42,545 not specifically you, I just wanted to be by myself. 1126 00:49:42,579 --> 00:49:45,581 So, yeah. 1127 00:49:48,218 --> 00:49:51,220 [dramatic music playing] 1128 00:49:55,092 --> 00:49:56,459 [Alexis] I've known my whole life 1129 00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:58,194 that I came from a sperm donor. 1130 00:49:58,261 --> 00:50:00,696 I mean, when I was, like, three years old, 1131 00:50:00,731 --> 00:50:02,932 I didn't know in the same way I know now, 1132 00:50:02,966 --> 00:50:04,600 but I still knew that there was something different 1133 00:50:04,634 --> 00:50:06,569 from most other people. 1134 00:50:06,603 --> 00:50:09,005 I always really wanted a dad and I would always ask my mom 1135 00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,007 "Mom, when am I gonna get a dad?" 1136 00:50:11,041 --> 00:50:13,109 And until, like, third or fourth grade, 1137 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:16,112 all I knew was that I had a donor, 1138 00:50:16,146 --> 00:50:18,180 but I didn't know anything about him. 1139 00:50:18,215 --> 00:50:21,784 Ever since then, my curiosity has just grown exponentially. 1140 00:50:21,818 --> 00:50:24,353 And then, in middle school, I started looking for him. 1141 00:50:24,388 --> 00:50:26,956 And then it just all led up to here. 1142 00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:29,992 [dramatic music playing] 1143 00:50:34,598 --> 00:50:36,332 [Alexis] I guess the first thing I ever did 1144 00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:37,666 in terms of looking for the donor 1145 00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:39,535 is I went on ancestry.com. 1146 00:50:39,569 --> 00:50:41,504 I just looked up people born in 1969 1147 00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:43,305 in Fort Collins, Colorado. 1148 00:50:43,339 --> 00:50:46,108 And I hoped that, like, somehow I'd find him like that 1149 00:50:46,143 --> 00:50:48,944 and nothing. 1150 00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:52,114 I learned that he was, like, top 20 in the nation in track. 1151 00:50:52,149 --> 00:50:54,583 I ordered track record books. 1152 00:50:54,618 --> 00:50:56,118 And, of course, as soon as I got this, I was, like, 1153 00:50:56,153 --> 00:50:57,887 "That's him," obviously it isn't. 1154 00:50:57,921 --> 00:51:00,956 And I, like, highlighted all the ones that say 1969 1155 00:51:00,991 --> 00:51:02,992 and I, like, Googled all of them 1156 00:51:03,026 --> 00:51:05,194 and that was a fruitless endeavor. 1157 00:51:05,228 --> 00:51:06,929 Just shows you how huge of a world it is 1158 00:51:06,963 --> 00:51:09,965 and that it is really tough to find people. 1159 00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:11,801 I just like keeping stuff like this 1160 00:51:11,835 --> 00:51:14,403 to, kinda, make connections with him, I don't know, 1161 00:51:14,438 --> 00:51:16,572 but he's probably in here somewhere. 1162 00:51:16,606 --> 00:51:19,175 So, I've probably read his name 500 times before, 1163 00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:23,179 but just don't know which one it is. 1164 00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:25,414 When I first met my dad or my stepdad, 1165 00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,817 whatever you wanna call him, 1166 00:51:27,851 --> 00:51:29,819 I really didn't like him. 1167 00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:32,455 And it never really felt like he was part of my life, 1168 00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:34,623 even though he lived with me, he was just that guy 1169 00:51:34,658 --> 00:51:36,992 that lived in my house. 1170 00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:39,195 He's a really critical person. 1171 00:51:39,229 --> 00:51:42,631 He's not very affectionate. 1172 00:51:42,666 --> 00:51:44,300 [Javier] I always criticize 1173 00:51:44,334 --> 00:51:45,935 because that was the way 1174 00:51:45,969 --> 00:51:47,970 that my parents were, you know, they were all... 1175 00:51:48,004 --> 00:51:49,972 Always trying to tell me to do... 1176 00:51:50,006 --> 00:51:51,974 Not because they didn't love me, but, you know, the... 1177 00:51:52,008 --> 00:51:55,978 And I... And in the long-term, I think it helped me out 1178 00:51:56,012 --> 00:51:59,148 when they were very strict, you know, they were like, 1179 00:51:59,182 --> 00:52:00,983 "You need to do this, you need to do that." 1180 00:52:01,017 --> 00:52:03,686 They never said, "Oh, Javier, you're doing it great," okay? 1181 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,821 I never heard that from my... 1182 00:52:05,856 --> 00:52:08,657 from my... from my dad or my mom. 1183 00:52:08,692 --> 00:52:10,559 My father was always working 1184 00:52:10,594 --> 00:52:13,696 and when years went by and I got older 1185 00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:15,264 and I had kids, 1186 00:52:15,298 --> 00:52:18,200 I realized that he never expressed himself too much, 1187 00:52:18,235 --> 00:52:21,670 but now I know that he really loved me a lot, so... 1188 00:52:21,705 --> 00:52:24,473 Because I'm repeating the same story. 1189 00:52:24,508 --> 00:52:27,076 Javier has never upfront discussed his feelings 1190 00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:32,481 about the donors-sibling situation with me, 1191 00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:34,917 but I just kind of know he's supportive of it. 1192 00:52:34,951 --> 00:52:37,219 I'm Catholic and I'm very religious 1193 00:52:37,254 --> 00:52:41,257 and I don't believe too much in this situation 1194 00:52:41,291 --> 00:52:47,263 where you maneuver or manage life, you know. 1195 00:52:47,297 --> 00:52:50,232 But now that Alexis is here, you know, of course, 1196 00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:54,403 she's entitled to all the love that I can give. 1197 00:52:54,437 --> 00:52:56,038 And it's sad, of course, I don't know 1198 00:52:56,072 --> 00:53:00,409 what would've happened to me in that situation, 1199 00:53:00,443 --> 00:53:03,112 you know, because I had the perfect family. 1200 00:53:03,146 --> 00:53:07,049 I do think having Javier in my life has... 1201 00:53:07,083 --> 00:53:09,985 propelled me to want to find my biological father because, 1202 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:11,654 like, even though I love Javier, 1203 00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,255 he was never enough. 1204 00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,758 In situations where it's been really bad 1205 00:53:15,792 --> 00:53:17,493 or bumpy with Javier, 1206 00:53:17,527 --> 00:53:19,595 I've always imagined what would it be like 1207 00:53:19,629 --> 00:53:21,764 if my real my dad was there instead or... 1208 00:53:21,798 --> 00:53:25,301 "My real dad." 1209 00:53:25,335 --> 00:53:27,136 Yeah. 1210 00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,440 [Lisa] Babe, you wanna get some of your stuff 1211 00:53:31,474 --> 00:53:33,943 - and start packing? - [Sadie] Sure. 1212 00:53:33,977 --> 00:53:36,946 [Lisa] We're gonna be there for four days. 1213 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:39,481 Sadie and I are packing up to go to the reunion 1214 00:53:39,516 --> 00:53:41,650 in Breckenridge, Colorado. 1215 00:53:41,685 --> 00:53:43,319 There's gonna be a ton of people, 1216 00:53:43,353 --> 00:53:45,888 so that's good and can be overwhelming, 1217 00:53:45,922 --> 00:53:48,324 but we're gonna meet some new siblings. 1218 00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:50,226 Which is always a good thing, 1219 00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:53,095 I'm glad people are starting to reach out and come out. 1220 00:53:53,129 --> 00:53:54,964 And we're gonna see some people we haven't seen 1221 00:53:54,998 --> 00:53:57,466 since the California reunion, 1222 00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:00,035 so we're looking forward to all of that. 1223 00:54:00,070 --> 00:54:02,605 You have all your cameras and film? 1224 00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:03,672 Chargers? 1225 00:54:03,707 --> 00:54:05,374 [Sadie] I'll get those. 1226 00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:07,176 These time around, I haven't talked to the siblings 1227 00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:08,811 as much over the year, 1228 00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:10,379 some of the relationships with the siblings 1229 00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:12,381 have kind of mellowed out because... 1230 00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:14,383 well, we're just, like, growing up and getting older. 1231 00:54:14,417 --> 00:54:16,329 And at first, it was really exciting 1232 00:54:16,353 --> 00:54:17,953 because it was like a new thing in our life. 1233 00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:19,722 And then after a while, it kind of becomes like 1234 00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:21,624 a normal thing. 1235 00:54:21,658 --> 00:54:23,826 And there's also so many siblings, so it's hard to get 1236 00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:26,362 as excited every time you meet like a new one, 1237 00:54:26,396 --> 00:54:28,364 even though it's always interesting. 1238 00:54:28,398 --> 00:54:31,166 And also, like, long-distance relationships are always hard, 1239 00:54:31,201 --> 00:54:33,302 you know, the communication and everything, 1240 00:54:33,336 --> 00:54:37,172 so I'm not really sure how it'll be this time around. 1241 00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:41,543 [whimsical music playing] 1242 00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:52,021 [Margot] Baking a goat cheese, peach, 1243 00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:54,056 caramelized onion, basil tarts. 1244 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:56,625 Just a little something to whip up for the family. 1245 00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:59,228 We've got 32 people, 1246 00:54:59,262 --> 00:55:02,765 and everybody has every kind of eating lifestyles 1247 00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:04,733 and it's just fun. 1248 00:55:07,237 --> 00:55:08,671 [woman] You can have two, there's more. 1249 00:55:08,705 --> 00:55:10,239 - I'm starving. - And you can have a napkin 1250 00:55:10,273 --> 00:55:11,373 - if you want. - Thank you. 1251 00:55:11,408 --> 00:55:13,876 Chelsea, do you want one? 1252 00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:15,544 Yes, please. 1253 00:55:15,578 --> 00:55:18,881 [indistinct chatter] 1254 00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:21,250 [laughter] 1255 00:55:21,284 --> 00:55:22,918 [Jack] I wanna ask you if you remember 1256 00:55:22,952 --> 00:55:24,620 making this decision? 1257 00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:28,691 No. I do not. I don't. 1258 00:55:28,725 --> 00:55:30,893 Here in Breckenridge for the fourth reunion. 1259 00:55:30,927 --> 00:55:33,696 We have biggest group of siblings that we ever had. 1260 00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:36,699 There's Zeke, Hannah, Sadie, 1261 00:55:36,733 --> 00:55:39,401 Neylan, Alexis, Mattie, 1262 00:55:39,436 --> 00:55:41,870 Danny, Lily, Nick, 1263 00:55:41,905 --> 00:55:44,940 Johnny, Bradley, me Jack, 1264 00:55:44,974 --> 00:55:47,443 and Grayson. 1265 00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,078 [Johnny] I completely regret 1266 00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:51,880 not coming to the other reunions already, 1267 00:55:51,915 --> 00:55:53,682 because one of the ways I kind of cope 1268 00:55:53,717 --> 00:55:55,017 with the whole donor dad thing 1269 00:55:55,051 --> 00:55:57,886 is kind of just not thinking about it. 1270 00:55:57,921 --> 00:56:00,923 You know, it's kind of hard to not think about it 1271 00:56:00,957 --> 00:56:04,126 when you're surrounded by, you know, 13 other kids 1272 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,594 that have the same donor dad as you. 1273 00:56:05,628 --> 00:56:07,196 How can you not think about the donor? 1274 00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:08,931 I've constantly been talking about it, 1275 00:56:08,965 --> 00:56:10,566 ever since I got here, all we've been talking about 1276 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,067 is like how much we look alike 1277 00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:13,736 and like the donor and it feels good. 1278 00:56:13,770 --> 00:56:15,971 And I wish I had done it earlier in my life 1279 00:56:16,005 --> 00:56:19,475 and maybe I wouldn't be... I wouldn't have had issues, 1280 00:56:19,509 --> 00:56:21,977 like, personal issues if I had done it earlier in life. 1281 00:56:22,011 --> 00:56:24,313 [indistinct chatter] 1282 00:56:24,347 --> 00:56:26,148 You should get this, you should get this. 1283 00:56:26,182 --> 00:56:28,517 Come on, look at their noses bounce right now. 1284 00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:30,686 [Jack] This being the fourth reunion, 1285 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:32,421 the other three I just couldn't make it 1286 00:56:32,455 --> 00:56:34,323 or financial stuff. 1287 00:56:34,357 --> 00:56:36,325 I come from a family where... 1288 00:56:36,359 --> 00:56:37,993 flying a plane is a big deal 1289 00:56:38,027 --> 00:56:39,661 and just the fact that my parents 1290 00:56:39,696 --> 00:56:42,431 were willing to spend that money and get me out here 1291 00:56:42,465 --> 00:56:44,400 and be able to meet all these people, 1292 00:56:44,434 --> 00:56:45,934 hit me really hard on the plane. 1293 00:56:45,969 --> 00:56:48,337 I was just like, "Oh, wow." 1294 00:56:48,371 --> 00:56:52,775 It was just all excitement, and it's still all excitement. 1295 00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:54,176 [Bradley] I've known about my siblings 1296 00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:56,412 for almost like two or three years now. 1297 00:56:56,446 --> 00:56:57,813 At first I was a bit nervous 1298 00:56:57,847 --> 00:56:59,515 about like finding out about them. 1299 00:56:59,549 --> 00:57:01,316 I'm not really like a people person, 1300 00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:05,220 but here it's a lot easier to get know like each other 1301 00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:07,756 and I was a lot less nervous because I can actually, like, 1302 00:57:07,791 --> 00:57:09,992 you know, pinpoint things that we had in common, 1303 00:57:10,026 --> 00:57:12,161 rather than like talking on the phone for like a week 1304 00:57:12,195 --> 00:57:13,262 and still being nervous. 1305 00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:18,400 [guitar music playing] 1306 00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:22,604 [indistinct chatter] 1307 00:57:54,204 --> 00:57:55,471 [Alexis] Yesterday, all the siblings 1308 00:57:55,505 --> 00:57:56,839 slept at the big house. 1309 00:57:56,873 --> 00:57:58,006 [Lily] Yeah. That was awesome. 1310 00:57:58,041 --> 00:57:59,741 Yeah, we stayed up all night. 1311 00:57:59,776 --> 00:58:00,943 Stayed up until 5:00 1312 00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:02,611 and then woke up at like 9:30. 1313 00:58:02,645 --> 00:58:04,980 [Lily] Some others didn't... 1314 00:58:05,014 --> 00:58:07,316 I don't know who that was, though. 1315 00:58:08,651 --> 00:58:10,452 Also, it's kind of random, 1316 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:12,788 but don't you guys feel like you have these mannerisms 1317 00:58:12,822 --> 00:58:14,456 like stuck in the back of your head, and, like, 1318 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:15,891 you just don't feel comfortable doing them 1319 00:58:15,925 --> 00:58:18,293 in, like, real world or at your school, 1320 00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:19,995 and because you're with all your siblings, 1321 00:58:20,029 --> 00:58:21,830 - like, let them loose? - [Alexis] Yeah. 1322 00:58:21,865 --> 00:58:23,265 Like you didn't even know you had it in you. 1323 00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:24,433 - [Alexis] Yeah. - [Lily] Yeah. 1324 00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:26,635 [Alexis] No, that's true. 1325 00:58:26,669 --> 00:58:28,070 I'm really... I'm really shy at school. 1326 00:58:28,104 --> 00:58:29,438 A spaz. 1327 00:58:29,472 --> 00:58:32,074 Last reunion, I walked into the room 1328 00:58:32,108 --> 00:58:34,243 and I had really nothing to compare it to, 1329 00:58:34,277 --> 00:58:36,879 so I wasn't... Honestly, I wasn't disappointed. 1330 00:58:36,913 --> 00:58:39,715 But now that I have something compare it to, 1331 00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:44,720 this reunion, it's like, wow. That it's truly different. 1332 00:58:44,754 --> 00:58:47,289 This reunion has really blown my mind 1333 00:58:47,323 --> 00:58:48,957 and just the things we do 1334 00:58:48,992 --> 00:58:52,294 and how fast we warmed up to each other 1335 00:58:52,328 --> 00:58:53,996 is actually incredible. 1336 00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:55,898 I've never seen anything like it. 1337 00:58:55,932 --> 00:58:58,634 And I think the reason that we connect so much quicker 1338 00:58:58,668 --> 00:59:00,302 is because... 1339 00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:02,271 one, because obviously we share the same father, 1340 00:59:02,305 --> 00:59:04,206 but I think it's so much more than that. 1341 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,974 We're talking about... Yesterday about this 1342 00:59:06,009 --> 00:59:09,144 and it's kind of just that we've been brought up 1343 00:59:09,178 --> 00:59:10,946 with this mystery in our lives 1344 00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:13,482 and having that mystery in your life 1345 00:59:13,516 --> 00:59:16,518 and that driving curiosity to find it, but you can't. 1346 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:19,154 So when you find a piece of it... 1347 00:59:19,188 --> 00:59:21,156 Well, 22 pieces of it, 1348 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:23,292 then it's like I need to put these together 1349 00:59:23,326 --> 00:59:26,728 and it's so exciting and it's very surreal, 1350 00:59:26,763 --> 00:59:28,530 but I love it. 1351 00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:31,533 [Sadie] We're gonna play the audio tape we have. 1352 00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:32,968 - [woman] Ready, guys? - [Sadie] Bradley 1353 00:59:33,002 --> 00:59:34,269 Apparently they can hear it from there, 1354 00:59:34,304 --> 00:59:36,038 so, it's pretty wild. 1355 00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,340 [woman] This is the audio tape of donor 5114. 1356 00:59:38,374 --> 00:59:42,511 Today's date is October 23rd, 1996. 1357 00:59:42,545 --> 00:59:45,514 [man] Hello. My donor number is 5114. 1358 00:59:45,548 --> 00:59:48,116 I'm six-feet one inch tall. 1359 00:59:48,151 --> 00:59:51,520 I have a medium build. 1360 00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:55,157 I have straight brown hair and brown eyes. 1361 00:59:55,191 --> 00:59:59,728 My skin color is slightly olive, and I tan easily. 1362 00:59:59,762 --> 01:00:01,363 I have full lips 1363 01:00:01,397 --> 01:00:03,999 and normally an athletic build, 1364 01:00:04,033 --> 01:00:05,867 like when I work out, 1365 01:00:05,902 --> 01:00:07,502 I seem to get results quickly, but... 1366 01:00:07,537 --> 01:00:09,938 [laughs] 1367 01:00:09,973 --> 01:00:14,810 [man] My mother originates from Germany and England 1368 01:00:14,844 --> 01:00:17,713 and my father originates from Germany. 1369 01:00:17,747 --> 01:00:20,949 At home, they say that I'm most like my father. 1370 01:00:20,984 --> 01:00:22,884 I see both of them in me, actually. 1371 01:00:22,919 --> 01:00:24,186 [woman] And how is that that you're most 1372 01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:25,787 like your father they say? 1373 01:00:25,822 --> 01:00:28,056 [man] My father really has tunnel vision 1374 01:00:28,091 --> 01:00:29,691 when it comes to doing things. 1375 01:00:29,726 --> 01:00:33,729 And so I seem to have focus similar to his. 1376 01:00:33,763 --> 01:00:36,732 [woman] And what would do if you had more time or money? 1377 01:00:36,766 --> 01:00:39,768 I would learn to play an instrument well. 1378 01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:41,703 I've picked up the guitar a few times, 1379 01:00:41,738 --> 01:00:45,807 but I haven't had time to really learn it well. 1380 01:00:45,842 --> 01:00:47,275 [Sadie] Was that your first time hearing it? 1381 01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:48,877 [Jack] No. I've heard it before 1382 01:00:48,911 --> 01:00:50,445 but it was like really crappy audio. 1383 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,880 - Oh, okay. - Because I think someone 1384 01:00:51,914 --> 01:00:54,349 like recorded it on their phone and sent to me. 1385 01:00:54,384 --> 01:00:55,684 [Alexis] That was... I think that was me. 1386 01:00:55,718 --> 01:00:56,952 I think that was you. But I... 1387 01:00:56,986 --> 01:00:58,520 Like I could barely even hear it 1388 01:00:58,554 --> 01:01:00,722 and I just heard, "I wish them all the luck." 1389 01:01:00,757 --> 01:01:02,457 That's all I heard. But... 1390 01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,559 It's like every time I listen to it with another sibling 1391 01:01:04,594 --> 01:01:06,228 it's a little different because you can just 1392 01:01:06,262 --> 01:01:08,930 connect it... Just... You can connect things more. 1393 01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:11,166 To me, it just sounds really like familiar, 1394 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,334 like we know him from somewhere 1395 01:01:12,368 --> 01:01:14,169 - but, like where? - Yeah. 1396 01:01:14,203 --> 01:01:16,838 The first time I heard it, it kind of like freaked me out 1397 01:01:16,873 --> 01:01:18,674 a little bit, but it didn't... 1398 01:01:18,708 --> 01:01:19,775 [Jack] He just sounds like 1399 01:01:19,809 --> 01:01:21,610 - Nick so much. - Yeah. 1400 01:01:21,644 --> 01:01:23,412 He's got a really nice voice like it's just... 1401 01:01:23,446 --> 01:01:25,514 Like, you know, how certain people like with those voices, 1402 01:01:25,548 --> 01:01:26,848 so it's like, it just soothes you 1403 01:01:26,883 --> 01:01:28,517 - to hear it. - [Alexis] Yeah. 1404 01:01:28,551 --> 01:01:30,419 What I don't get is, like, how there can be one dude 1405 01:01:30,486 --> 01:01:32,688 - that looks like all of us. - [Neylan] Mmm-hmm. 1406 01:01:32,722 --> 01:01:34,389 Because sometimes you see someone with their mom 1407 01:01:34,424 --> 01:01:36,091 and you're like, oh, God. They look so much like them. 1408 01:01:36,125 --> 01:01:37,526 And then you see their dad, and you're like, 1409 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,794 they look like them, too, like a lot. 1410 01:01:38,828 --> 01:01:40,128 - [Alexis] What? Yeah. - [Jack] Mmm-hmm. 1411 01:01:40,163 --> 01:01:43,165 [whimsical music playing] 1412 01:01:47,437 --> 01:01:50,405 [Nancy] So we have seven kids born in 1998, 1413 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,407 six in 1999, 1414 01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:55,544 and then there's sort of a fallow period for 2000, 1415 01:01:55,578 --> 01:01:57,846 and then two in 2001, 1416 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,083 and then Zeke was born in 2004, 1417 01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:05,420 and then we have baby Grayson 2014. 1418 01:02:05,455 --> 01:02:07,122 [Jack] That's a big gap 1419 01:02:07,156 --> 01:02:10,192 between like Mattie and Grayson. 1420 01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:11,827 [Mattie] My 18th birthday is coming up 1421 01:02:11,861 --> 01:02:14,496 and I feel like there's a lot of the younger siblings 1422 01:02:14,530 --> 01:02:16,932 way more interested in finding the donor than I am, 1423 01:02:16,966 --> 01:02:20,268 but I am gonna definitely, like, 1424 01:02:20,303 --> 01:02:22,070 contact the Cryobank and, like, request 1425 01:02:22,105 --> 01:02:24,406 for a picture and, like, contact and stuff, 1426 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,142 but I just kind of want to see what they'll say. 1427 01:02:27,176 --> 01:02:29,745 I won't necessarily, like, 1428 01:02:29,779 --> 01:02:32,013 want to go meet him if he does wanna meet. 1429 01:02:32,048 --> 01:02:34,649 But I feel, like, just so they could like know, 1430 01:02:34,684 --> 01:02:36,818 like whenever they turn 18, 1431 01:02:36,853 --> 01:02:40,822 if he'll wanna, like, meet them and stuff. 1432 01:02:40,857 --> 01:02:44,326 [dramatic music playing] 1433 01:02:46,329 --> 01:02:47,763 [Nancy] You know, you try to kind of wonder 1434 01:02:47,797 --> 01:02:49,598 what his life is like now. 1435 01:02:49,632 --> 01:02:51,166 I mean, he donated for you guys 1436 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,270 like 20, 18, 19, 17 years ago. 1437 01:02:55,304 --> 01:02:57,405 And he was in his late 20s then, 1438 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,342 so he's probably in his mid-40s now. 1439 01:03:00,376 --> 01:03:02,544 And, you know, think about how different 1440 01:03:02,578 --> 01:03:04,613 your life is gonna be in 20 years. 1441 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,416 And I'm willing to bet that, when he donated, 1442 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:13,088 he didn't fully appreciate what he was doing, 1443 01:03:13,122 --> 01:03:15,157 that he didn't understand that he was helping 1444 01:03:15,191 --> 01:03:17,159 to create all of you. 1445 01:03:17,193 --> 01:03:18,827 [Alexis] He obviously has the right to his privacy. 1446 01:03:18,861 --> 01:03:20,695 But I mean I also think we have the right 1447 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:22,164 to at least some information 1448 01:03:22,198 --> 01:03:24,699 and, like, at least more than we have now 1449 01:03:24,734 --> 01:03:26,868 and then what he... When he donated, 1450 01:03:26,903 --> 01:03:30,138 he, like, should have considered the future 1451 01:03:30,173 --> 01:03:32,140 and what he was gonna be like in 20 years. 1452 01:03:32,175 --> 01:03:33,542 I'm not saying that it's not right to ask 1453 01:03:33,576 --> 01:03:35,243 or it's not ask right to... 1454 01:03:35,278 --> 01:03:39,314 I mean, I would like to know some things too, you know. 1455 01:03:39,348 --> 01:03:43,151 It's just, you know, sometimes what we feel like 1456 01:03:43,186 --> 01:03:45,187 he needs to do, he may not think that. 1457 01:03:45,221 --> 01:03:48,690 He may not even have this as a priority. 1458 01:03:48,724 --> 01:03:51,326 [Lily] I feel like I'd want a mystery 1459 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,930 more than I'd want an unfulfilled, 1460 01:03:54,964 --> 01:03:57,532 - like void in my... - Yeah. Me too. 1461 01:03:57,567 --> 01:04:00,969 And I'm like more interested in, like, sibling stuff 1462 01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:05,207 than like dad stuff, like I don't... 1463 01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,210 I've never, like, wanted to really meet him. 1464 01:04:08,244 --> 01:04:10,212 I just wanna, like, know what he looks like. 1465 01:04:10,246 --> 01:04:12,814 [Johnny] For me, at least, I'm in it for you guys. 1466 01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:16,318 I've talked hours on end with you guys 1467 01:04:16,352 --> 01:04:18,787 and I see myself in you guys, you know? 1468 01:04:18,821 --> 01:04:22,224 [Danny] The most main reason that we are here 1469 01:04:22,258 --> 01:04:25,393 every year meeting each other is not to find the donor 1470 01:04:25,428 --> 01:04:26,661 but it's to be with each other, 1471 01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:28,763 because the connection we've grown 1472 01:04:28,798 --> 01:04:31,132 is probably stronger than any connection you could find, 1473 01:04:31,167 --> 01:04:34,814 so I'm satisfied with having what we have here 1474 01:04:34,838 --> 01:04:36,605 because what we have here is amazing. 1475 01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:38,607 [Alexis] And I'm realizing that more and more 1476 01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:41,076 as time passes by, like I... 1477 01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:43,245 Even though it's kind of hard to picture my life 1478 01:04:43,279 --> 01:04:45,614 without ever knowing who the donor is, I can do it 1479 01:04:45,648 --> 01:04:47,883 but I cannot picture my life 1480 01:04:47,917 --> 01:04:51,319 without any of my siblings, like, it's impossible. 1481 01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:54,356 [whimsical music playing] 1482 01:04:57,026 --> 01:04:59,227 [Danny] The trip was really, really fun. 1483 01:04:59,262 --> 01:05:01,496 I definitely feel like I've, like, connected 1484 01:05:01,530 --> 01:05:03,665 with the siblings on like a whole new level 1485 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,201 and we've all opened up about more things 1486 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:11,039 and more experiences that we can all relate to. 1487 01:05:11,073 --> 01:05:13,541 [Mattie] This trip, I learned we all, like, struggle 1488 01:05:13,576 --> 01:05:15,377 with the same stuff emotionally, 1489 01:05:15,411 --> 01:05:17,679 and that's, like, really cool to know that we're, like, 1490 01:05:17,713 --> 01:05:19,614 all going through the same stuff. 1491 01:05:19,649 --> 01:05:21,149 It's gonna, like, suck, like, leaving, 1492 01:05:21,183 --> 01:05:22,884 like I've already cried, 1493 01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:25,387 I'm just gonna miss everyone so much. 1494 01:05:29,892 --> 01:05:32,327 [Danny] It never gets easier to pack up and leave 1495 01:05:32,361 --> 01:05:34,195 just because with each meet-up, 1496 01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:36,865 you get closer and closer with every sibling 1497 01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:38,934 and it's just harder to go. 1498 01:05:38,968 --> 01:05:40,335 Almost feels like 1499 01:05:40,369 --> 01:05:43,471 it's just, like, our right to be together, 1500 01:05:43,506 --> 01:05:45,173 I don't know. 1501 01:05:45,207 --> 01:05:48,209 [whimsical music playing] 1502 01:05:53,716 --> 01:05:55,150 [Brandy] On the way home from Breckenridge, 1503 01:05:55,184 --> 01:05:57,352 we had a hard time because 1504 01:05:57,386 --> 01:05:59,854 Daniel just had a meltdown and cried a lot 1505 01:05:59,889 --> 01:06:03,458 and he was yelling a lot and we were yelling a lot 1506 01:06:03,492 --> 01:06:06,094 and just... I think there was just this 1507 01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:08,797 sense of disconnect 1508 01:06:08,831 --> 01:06:11,866 and, you know, he was saying that, you know, 1509 01:06:11,901 --> 01:06:15,737 he just doesn't think that we'll ever understand 1510 01:06:15,771 --> 01:06:20,108 how he feels and how important everybody is to him 1511 01:06:20,142 --> 01:06:22,277 to the point of making us 1512 01:06:22,311 --> 01:06:25,580 feel kind of like we didn't matter as much to him. 1513 01:06:25,614 --> 01:06:29,751 When we came back from Breckenridge, 1514 01:06:29,785 --> 01:06:32,187 Daniel decided to go see his grandparents 1515 01:06:32,221 --> 01:06:34,122 and my ex in Clovis. 1516 01:06:34,156 --> 01:06:39,127 And... 1517 01:06:39,161 --> 01:06:41,496 he just went to go spend some time with her. 1518 01:06:47,036 --> 01:06:48,536 [Danny] After Breckenridge, 1519 01:06:48,571 --> 01:06:50,538 I definitely felt like I found a lot of myself 1520 01:06:50,573 --> 01:06:52,674 during that meet-up and I just came home 1521 01:06:52,708 --> 01:06:55,276 and I kind of felt like that Albuquerque, 1522 01:06:55,311 --> 01:06:56,845 I was more focused on being the person 1523 01:06:56,879 --> 01:06:58,046 that people wanted me to be 1524 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,748 and not being the person I wanted to be. 1525 01:06:59,782 --> 01:07:01,983 And so I decided to go ahead 1526 01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:06,621 and move down to Clovis with my other mom. 1527 01:07:06,655 --> 01:07:09,824 [Brandy] She's not been a really big part of his life 1528 01:07:09,859 --> 01:07:11,659 and it's not something I'm excited about 1529 01:07:11,694 --> 01:07:13,428 or that I want. 1530 01:07:13,462 --> 01:07:15,363 But he wants to get to know her 1531 01:07:15,398 --> 01:07:17,265 and I didn't fight it. 1532 01:07:17,333 --> 01:07:19,734 Legally, I could fight it and he could be here with me, 1533 01:07:19,769 --> 01:07:22,604 but there's just this disconnect with him. 1534 01:07:22,638 --> 01:07:24,406 And so I don't wanna push it 1535 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,274 because I don't wanna push him away. 1536 01:07:29,011 --> 01:07:31,079 [Danny] I kind of feel like my moms took this whole move 1537 01:07:31,113 --> 01:07:32,847 a little too personal 1538 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:35,250 and made it more about them than they should have 1539 01:07:35,284 --> 01:07:37,652 because it wasn't necessarily 1540 01:07:37,686 --> 01:07:39,354 about them at all, with this whole move. 1541 01:07:39,388 --> 01:07:40,955 It was more about me 1542 01:07:40,990 --> 01:07:42,190 and ever since the time I was five, 1543 01:07:42,224 --> 01:07:43,858 I had always been the older one 1544 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,427 looking after all the kids. 1545 01:07:45,461 --> 01:07:46,995 So it's nice to only, like, 1546 01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:49,798 be responsible for myself for once. 1547 01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:53,935 [Brandy] He doesn't confide in me anymore 1548 01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:56,004 and I know a lot of it is the teenage stuff. 1549 01:07:56,038 --> 01:07:59,407 And I know he's growing and he's becoming independent. 1550 01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:02,677 But it really feels like my heart's broken. 1551 01:08:02,711 --> 01:08:05,613 I just... I just want some more time with him. 1552 01:08:07,416 --> 01:08:09,717 [Francesca] Even though we know we're good parents 1553 01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:11,586 and we know we're doing all that we can, 1554 01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:13,688 it just makes you question, like, 1555 01:08:13,722 --> 01:08:15,390 what did I do wrong? 1556 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:17,692 Maybe if he wouldn't have had 1557 01:08:17,726 --> 01:08:21,229 so much of the sibling family unit, 1558 01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:23,932 you know, what he have pulled away from us like he is. 1559 01:08:23,966 --> 01:08:27,001 And I think that's what's kind of making us 1560 01:08:27,036 --> 01:08:28,636 regret our decision a little bit 1561 01:08:28,671 --> 01:08:30,805 to foster the connections 1562 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,575 between the siblings and Daniel. 1563 01:08:45,921 --> 01:08:47,722 [woman] Are you excited about being 18? 1564 01:08:47,756 --> 01:08:49,491 [Mattie] Yes, I am. 1565 01:08:49,525 --> 01:08:51,259 Ever since I can remember, 1566 01:08:51,293 --> 01:08:54,863 like, whenever we, like, found the siblings and everything, 1567 01:08:54,897 --> 01:08:57,465 I would always feel like, "Oh, yeah, I'm the oldest." 1568 01:08:57,533 --> 01:08:59,667 It was always so, like, distant in the future 1569 01:08:59,702 --> 01:09:01,536 and I wasn't, like, thinking, 1570 01:09:01,570 --> 01:09:04,405 "Oh, like, this will actually happen someday." 1571 01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:07,575 [woman] So if you're thinking that if you were the only one 1572 01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:09,944 and you might not really have so much interest 1573 01:09:09,979 --> 01:09:12,380 in contacting the Cryobank, 1574 01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:15,550 are you feeling pressure because people are coming? 1575 01:09:15,584 --> 01:09:18,486 Yeah, I know that they're all, like, expecting it 1576 01:09:18,521 --> 01:09:23,158 and I'm like 95% sure I'll probably call Latrice. 1577 01:09:23,192 --> 01:09:26,327 But you would be fine with maybe just a picture? 1578 01:09:26,362 --> 01:09:28,897 - [Mattie] Yeah. - That would be interesting. 1579 01:09:28,931 --> 01:09:30,732 - [Mattie] If he's ugly... - What if you get it? Yeah. 1580 01:09:30,766 --> 01:09:32,901 What if you get it and he's ugly, 1581 01:09:32,935 --> 01:09:36,437 - "how would that go?" - That would be interesting. 1582 01:09:36,472 --> 01:09:39,941 [whimsical music playing] 1583 01:09:39,975 --> 01:09:41,342 - [Mattie] Hi. - Hi. 1584 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,379 - [Mattie] Hi. - [Julia] Hi. 1585 01:09:44,413 --> 01:09:45,980 [Mattie] How are you? 1586 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,383 Hi, nice to meet you. 1587 01:09:48,417 --> 01:09:51,419 [upbeat music playing] 1588 01:10:06,802 --> 01:10:08,736 [laughs] 1589 01:10:08,771 --> 01:10:13,474 [all] ? Happy birthday To you ? 1590 01:10:13,509 --> 01:10:18,079 ? Happy birthday to you ? 1591 01:10:18,113 --> 01:10:23,484 ? Happy birthday, Dear Mattie ? 1592 01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:28,289 ? Happy birthday to you ? 1593 01:10:28,324 --> 01:10:29,924 [cheering] 1594 01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:32,293 -[woman] Watch your hair, -Watch your hair. 1595 01:10:32,328 --> 01:10:33,962 [cheering] 1596 01:10:33,996 --> 01:10:35,463 [laughter] 1597 01:10:35,497 --> 01:10:37,532 - [man] Go, go, go, go. - [woman] Blow it out. 1598 01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:39,100 [screams] 1599 01:10:39,134 --> 01:10:41,269 [woman] What happened? 1600 01:10:41,303 --> 01:10:43,104 - [man] Oh my God. - [woman] Oh my God. 1601 01:10:43,138 --> 01:10:46,541 [cheering] 1602 01:10:46,575 --> 01:10:49,577 [phone rings] 1603 01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:55,383 [Mattie] Hello. 1604 01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:56,784 [Latrice] Hello, this is Latrice. 1605 01:10:56,819 --> 01:10:58,453 Hi, Latrice, this is Mattie Overmeyer 1606 01:10:58,487 --> 01:11:00,288 from 5114. 1607 01:11:00,322 --> 01:11:02,857 I just turned 18 and I was just wondering, 1608 01:11:02,891 --> 01:11:04,692 like, about contacting the donor 1609 01:11:04,727 --> 01:11:08,040 and, like, the process I had to go through and everything. 1610 01:11:08,064 --> 01:11:09,964 [Latrice] Oh, okay. Happy birthday. 1611 01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:12,000 - Thank you. - [Latrice] Uh, so, basically 1612 01:11:12,034 --> 01:11:14,636 what I have to do is that I have to put in 1613 01:11:14,670 --> 01:11:17,005 a request to locate the donor, 1614 01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:19,707 um, because the donor is anonymous, 1615 01:11:19,742 --> 01:11:21,276 it's not guaranteed 1616 01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:24,178 that he will respond to our enquiries. 1617 01:11:24,213 --> 01:11:27,181 But we will definitely do our due diligence 1618 01:11:27,216 --> 01:11:29,617 and try to reach out to him to find out 1619 01:11:29,652 --> 01:11:32,620 how he feels about communicating. 1620 01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:36,190 So, um, from the time I turn in the information, 1621 01:11:36,225 --> 01:11:38,993 it can take anywhere between four to six weeks 1622 01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,828 before I get his whereabouts. 1623 01:11:40,863 --> 01:11:44,599 And we generally attempt at least three times 1624 01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:47,368 and if he doesn't reply within three attempts, 1625 01:11:47,403 --> 01:11:49,537 then we have to assume that he doesn't want 1626 01:11:49,571 --> 01:11:51,539 to, um, communicate. 1627 01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:53,007 And at that point, 1628 01:11:53,075 --> 01:11:56,010 we will have to respect his wishes. 1629 01:11:56,045 --> 01:11:58,212 If you have any additional questions before I get back 1630 01:11:58,247 --> 01:12:00,381 in contact with you, Just give me a call. 1631 01:12:00,416 --> 01:12:02,684 Have a wonderful birthday and I'll talk to you soon. 1632 01:12:02,718 --> 01:12:04,218 Thank you, thank you so much. 1633 01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:06,421 [Latrice] Okay. Bye-bye. 1634 01:12:06,455 --> 01:12:09,123 Kind of surprised me like during the phone how, 1635 01:12:09,158 --> 01:12:11,793 like, emotional, like, I kind of felt, like, 1636 01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:13,561 because, you know, like, no matter what he says, 1637 01:12:13,595 --> 01:12:15,897 it's gonna probably change our lives forever. 1638 01:12:15,931 --> 01:12:17,432 I don't know. Like we've been waiting for this 1639 01:12:17,466 --> 01:12:19,233 for so long and like it's just crazy 1640 01:12:19,268 --> 01:12:21,669 that actually... The time. 1641 01:12:21,737 --> 01:12:22,870 [Mattie] Yeah. 1642 01:12:27,543 --> 01:12:30,244 [Ben] Julia, like, and me, like, we've always like 1643 01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,280 been curious about the dad 1644 01:12:32,314 --> 01:12:33,581 and like what it would be like 1645 01:12:33,615 --> 01:12:35,583 if we had a dad kind of thing. 1646 01:12:35,617 --> 01:12:37,218 We've always been like lucky to have 1647 01:12:37,252 --> 01:12:38,686 like the moms that we do, 1648 01:12:38,721 --> 01:12:41,055 but like having a dad would be like different, 1649 01:12:41,090 --> 01:12:44,258 like, we're not like asking for one, we're just like... 1650 01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,427 We just like kind of wanna know, yeah. 1651 01:12:46,462 --> 01:12:48,596 [Julia] And it's just like 1652 01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:52,033 how you not wanna meet people you gave life to, 1653 01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:55,370 like how could that not mean something to you? 1654 01:12:55,404 --> 01:12:57,405 And also I just wonder like if he has kids 1655 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,706 - because that's like... - Yeah. Yeah. 1656 01:12:58,741 --> 01:13:00,408 ...that could be like two, three, 1657 01:13:00,442 --> 01:13:02,276 four more half-siblings that we don't even know about. 1658 01:13:02,311 --> 01:13:04,779 [Julia] Yeah. Probably hard for them now, 1659 01:13:04,813 --> 01:13:05,780 - because like... - Yeah. 1660 01:13:05,814 --> 01:13:07,148 ...they're his dad. 1661 01:13:07,182 --> 01:13:09,450 Some, like, 20-something other half-kids 1662 01:13:09,485 --> 01:13:11,018 came in and started to talk to my dad, 1663 01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:12,587 I'd be like, "Um, get the hell out of here." 1664 01:13:12,621 --> 01:13:14,255 - I will not be... - [woman] Yeah. 1665 01:13:14,289 --> 01:13:16,357 I would kind of look like, I'd be like, "Errr." 1666 01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,960 Yeah. There's like a lot of stuff that, like, 1667 01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:21,329 he has to like factor and then like 1668 01:13:21,363 --> 01:13:23,208 so many things that, like, saying yes 1669 01:13:23,232 --> 01:13:25,099 could affect in his life. 1670 01:13:25,134 --> 01:13:27,168 Maybe he's just as nervous as we are. 1671 01:13:27,202 --> 01:13:30,171 Yeah. Because I'd be more nervous 1672 01:13:30,205 --> 01:13:31,939 if I were in his situation. 1673 01:13:31,974 --> 01:13:33,908 It's like we have each other. 1674 01:13:33,942 --> 01:13:36,944 He has... Who knows who he has 1675 01:13:36,979 --> 01:13:40,248 to, like, go through this with, I guess. 1676 01:13:40,282 --> 01:13:43,284 [dramatic music playing] 1677 01:13:50,459 --> 01:13:52,794 [Latrice] "This is interesting. In 20 years", 1678 01:13:52,828 --> 01:13:54,595 I would like to be happy with my family 1679 01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:56,364 and free to live life together. 1680 01:13:56,398 --> 01:13:59,801 My goal is to be balanced physically and mentally. 1681 01:13:59,835 --> 01:14:02,303 Ultimately he would like to understand 1682 01:14:02,337 --> 01:14:03,971 "the truth of our existence." 1683 01:14:04,006 --> 01:14:05,740 Okay. 1684 01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:08,843 [dramatic music playing] 1685 01:14:10,913 --> 01:14:12,847 Hi, it's Latrice, how are you? 1686 01:14:12,881 --> 01:14:14,248 Good, thank you. 1687 01:14:14,283 --> 01:14:16,350 Wanna let you know that I have a request 1688 01:14:16,418 --> 01:14:20,822 for a donor location for a number 5114. 1689 01:14:20,856 --> 01:14:22,390 If we're lucky 1690 01:14:22,424 --> 01:14:24,692 and a donor responds to our enquiries, 1691 01:14:24,726 --> 01:14:26,427 it can go two ways. 1692 01:14:26,462 --> 01:14:27,929 The donor will either agree 1693 01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:29,197 or he won't agree. 1694 01:14:29,231 --> 01:14:30,832 The hard part for me 1695 01:14:30,866 --> 01:14:32,811 is contacting the offspring 1696 01:14:32,835 --> 01:14:34,402 to let them know that he doesn't want 1697 01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:36,537 to participate in communicating. 1698 01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:41,008 I try to deliver the blow as passionately 1699 01:14:41,042 --> 01:14:43,244 and, you know, empathetic 1700 01:14:43,278 --> 01:14:46,247 and sympathetically as I possibly can 1701 01:14:46,281 --> 01:14:49,250 because the offsprings are anticipating 1702 01:14:49,284 --> 01:14:51,385 there's some hope that, you know, 1703 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:53,821 we've reached out to this guy, he's responded, 1704 01:14:53,856 --> 01:14:56,224 but then he doesn't wanna participate. 1705 01:14:56,258 --> 01:14:57,692 Once a donor says no, 1706 01:14:57,726 --> 01:14:59,594 we have to, you know, accept that 1707 01:14:59,628 --> 01:15:01,662 and move on and it's just... 1708 01:15:01,697 --> 01:15:03,064 It's devastating to have 1709 01:15:03,098 --> 01:15:06,300 to make that phone call to the offsprings. 1710 01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,337 [dramatic music playing] 1711 01:15:11,773 --> 01:15:14,275 [Mattie] A lot of the siblings once they found out 1712 01:15:14,309 --> 01:15:18,246 that I was getting the call today, um, 1713 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,715 like Danny started crying at school and had to, 1714 01:15:20,749 --> 01:15:22,650 like, go home and a lot of them 1715 01:15:22,684 --> 01:15:25,052 were just like freaking out and so was I. 1716 01:15:25,087 --> 01:15:26,888 It was like... 1717 01:15:26,922 --> 01:15:28,890 It's just like super anxious 1718 01:15:28,924 --> 01:15:31,792 and like... And she's calling me. 1719 01:15:31,827 --> 01:15:33,327 Okay. 1720 01:15:36,965 --> 01:15:38,733 Hello. 1721 01:15:38,767 --> 01:15:40,568 [Latrice] Hi, may I speak to Mattie? 1722 01:15:40,602 --> 01:15:42,770 Hi, how are you? 1723 01:15:42,804 --> 01:15:44,438 [Latrice] Hi, Mattie, it's Latrice Allen 1724 01:15:44,473 --> 01:15:46,641 from the Cryobank. I'm good, how are you? 1725 01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:49,110 - I'm good. - [Latrice] Good. 1726 01:15:49,144 --> 01:15:50,578 Well, I want to give you a call 1727 01:15:50,646 --> 01:15:52,580 to give you an update, 1728 01:15:52,614 --> 01:15:55,883 um, I did speak with the donor. 1729 01:15:55,918 --> 01:16:01,722 The bottom line is that he is willing to communicate, 1730 01:16:01,757 --> 01:16:05,126 um, anonymously facilitated through me. 1731 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,730 He needs a little bit more time to iron out 1732 01:16:09,765 --> 01:16:12,500 whatever the thought process needs to be. 1733 01:16:12,534 --> 01:16:15,213 So he says it's not a problem 1734 01:16:15,237 --> 01:16:16,804 if it's gonna happen, 1735 01:16:16,838 --> 01:16:18,940 but the issue is just when it's gonna happen 1736 01:16:18,974 --> 01:16:22,143 because he needs to make sure that he's 100% comfortable 1737 01:16:22,177 --> 01:16:24,312 that his family will be protected 1738 01:16:24,346 --> 01:16:26,547 once he starts to communicate. 1739 01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:29,317 Okay. Wow. 1740 01:16:29,351 --> 01:16:30,451 [Latrice] And then if you have 1741 01:16:30,485 --> 01:16:32,353 specific questions for him, 1742 01:16:32,387 --> 01:16:34,622 depending on the confidentiality 1743 01:16:34,656 --> 01:16:36,457 of the questions, he will answer 1744 01:16:36,491 --> 01:16:38,392 whatever he's comfortable with answering 1745 01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,562 and then, you know, give you a bio of himself. 1746 01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:43,364 I don't know if you're allowed to tell me this, 1747 01:16:43,398 --> 01:16:45,499 but so he does like have 1748 01:16:45,534 --> 01:16:47,435 his own like family and everything? 1749 01:16:47,469 --> 01:16:48,436 Like does he have his own kids? 1750 01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:50,304 [Latrice] Yes, he does. 1751 01:16:50,339 --> 01:16:51,806 Yes, he does. 1752 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,941 Do you know how many there are? 1753 01:16:53,976 --> 01:16:55,042 [Latrice] I do, but I'd have to 1754 01:16:55,077 --> 01:16:56,210 let him let you know that. 1755 01:16:56,244 --> 01:16:57,712 Okay. Thank you so much, 1756 01:16:57,746 --> 01:16:59,880 I can't wait to hear back from you. 1757 01:16:59,915 --> 01:17:01,682 [Latrice] Okay. No problem, you're welcome 1758 01:17:01,717 --> 01:17:04,385 - and have a great weekend. - You too, thank you. 1759 01:17:04,419 --> 01:17:06,954 [Latrice] Okay. All righty. Bye-bye. 1760 01:17:08,323 --> 01:17:11,025 - What the heck? - [woman] That's exciting. 1761 01:17:11,059 --> 01:17:12,960 How do you sit with that? 1762 01:17:12,995 --> 01:17:14,295 What did you expect? 1763 01:17:14,329 --> 01:17:16,030 - Is that what you thought? - Not that. 1764 01:17:16,064 --> 01:17:17,632 [woman] What did you think? 1765 01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,100 Did you think he would say no? 1766 01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:20,901 - Yes. - [woman] You did? Oh. 1767 01:17:20,936 --> 01:17:24,438 [laughs] You were hoping the easy way out. 1768 01:17:26,241 --> 01:17:28,509 [Mattie] Hello. 1769 01:17:28,543 --> 01:17:29,877 - Hello. - Hi. 1770 01:17:29,911 --> 01:17:32,079 - [Mattie] Can you hear me? - Yes. 1771 01:17:32,114 --> 01:17:33,547 - Yes. - Mmm-hmm. 1772 01:17:33,582 --> 01:17:37,551 [Mattie] Okay. So, he's alive, good news. 1773 01:17:37,586 --> 01:17:40,421 And he said yes 1774 01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:43,557 to contacting me anonymously 1775 01:17:43,592 --> 01:17:46,527 through the Cryobank, but he doesn't wanna contact 1776 01:17:46,561 --> 01:17:49,130 from anyone else who is under the age of 18. 1777 01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:51,699 And he has own family and kids. 1778 01:17:51,733 --> 01:17:54,669 And I'm gonna send him like a bio of like stuff. 1779 01:17:54,703 --> 01:17:57,038 [woman] So like if he gets to know you better, 1780 01:17:57,072 --> 01:17:59,040 he might like reveal his name? 1781 01:17:59,074 --> 01:18:00,541 Maybe, I don't know. 1782 01:18:00,575 --> 01:18:02,476 It's gonna be a step at a time. 1783 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:04,111 [woman] Well, that's good, it's a good start 1784 01:18:04,146 --> 01:18:06,747 and like whatever he's comfortable with. 1785 01:18:06,782 --> 01:18:09,350 This is good news though, guys. 1786 01:18:09,384 --> 01:18:11,452 Yeah, I'm excited. 1787 01:18:11,486 --> 01:18:12,920 I didn't have to cry. 1788 01:18:12,954 --> 01:18:14,355 [laughs] 1789 01:18:16,158 --> 01:18:19,160 [dramatic music playing] 1790 01:18:21,396 --> 01:18:24,098 [Mattie] I've always been telling myself 1791 01:18:24,132 --> 01:18:26,901 that I didn't necessarily care 1792 01:18:26,935 --> 01:18:28,335 about the donor 1793 01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:29,904 and I didn't care about 1794 01:18:29,938 --> 01:18:31,105 what his answer was 1795 01:18:31,139 --> 01:18:32,673 and I didn't wanna meet him. 1796 01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:37,144 And now that I know that his answer is yes, 1797 01:18:37,179 --> 01:18:38,979 it's kind of scary 1798 01:18:39,014 --> 01:18:41,649 that I let my guard down now 1799 01:18:41,683 --> 01:18:43,451 that he said yes to contact 1800 01:18:43,485 --> 01:18:46,087 because now is the time that I really, 1801 01:18:46,121 --> 01:18:49,356 like, could get rejected like as a person, 1802 01:18:49,391 --> 01:18:50,958 like, with him reading my bio 1803 01:18:50,992 --> 01:18:53,160 and like actually seeing who I am 1804 01:18:53,195 --> 01:18:55,329 and, like, seeing a picture of me. 1805 01:18:55,363 --> 01:18:58,132 And then if he says like, 1806 01:18:58,166 --> 01:18:59,734 "Stop contacting me," or whatever, 1807 01:18:59,768 --> 01:19:02,336 then that would really be rejection, 1808 01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:05,706 so that's kind of scary. 1809 01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:07,908 [woman] Mattie, has that protection mechanism in her 1810 01:19:07,943 --> 01:19:10,711 that if she doesn't know what the answer is gonna be, 1811 01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:13,180 she's gonna protect herself from that answer. 1812 01:19:13,215 --> 01:19:15,382 And now that she's found out that he is willing 1813 01:19:15,450 --> 01:19:17,985 to have a connection to them, 1814 01:19:18,019 --> 01:19:21,021 I think she's cautiously optimistic but excited 1815 01:19:21,056 --> 01:19:23,524 and way more than she ever dreamed she would be. 1816 01:19:23,558 --> 01:19:26,594 [dramatic music playing] 1817 01:19:34,169 --> 01:19:37,171 [birds chirping] 1818 01:19:42,878 --> 01:19:44,512 [Lorie] I've been excited today, 1819 01:19:44,546 --> 01:19:45,579 I've been nervous, 1820 01:19:45,614 --> 01:19:47,314 I've been crying, 1821 01:19:47,349 --> 01:19:49,150 not sure why. 1822 01:19:49,184 --> 01:19:51,986 Just I guess the enormity of the whole thing, 1823 01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:53,854 you know, that it's like finally over, 1824 01:19:53,889 --> 01:19:55,923 that he's coming back. 1825 01:19:55,957 --> 01:19:57,825 He hasn't lived here in two and a half years 1826 01:19:57,859 --> 01:20:01,195 so that's gonna be kind of a little nervous 1827 01:20:01,229 --> 01:20:03,931 about just living with him again 1828 01:20:03,965 --> 01:20:07,234 and he's changed so much and I think I have changed 1829 01:20:07,269 --> 01:20:10,504 and it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out 1830 01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:13,908 of coming back together again after two and a half years 1831 01:20:13,942 --> 01:20:16,410 as two different people. 1832 01:20:16,444 --> 01:20:18,579 It's gonna be interesting. 1833 01:20:18,613 --> 01:20:21,615 [dramatic music playing] 1834 01:20:25,220 --> 01:20:27,388 [Lorie] Having decided that he's coming home, 1835 01:20:27,422 --> 01:20:28,823 I've been, you know, an empty nester 1836 01:20:28,857 --> 01:20:30,691 for two and a half years, 1837 01:20:30,725 --> 01:20:34,061 and I look at the future, it's awful nice. 1838 01:20:34,095 --> 01:20:36,197 Really hopeful, you know. 1839 01:20:36,231 --> 01:20:38,699 He's done a lot of good hard work. 1840 01:20:38,733 --> 01:20:40,801 I wanna see him and know 1841 01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:43,838 that he's not getting back on another airplane. 1842 01:20:43,872 --> 01:20:45,639 That's the best part. 1843 01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:48,809 Just knowing that he's not going away again. 1844 01:20:48,844 --> 01:20:50,578 There he is. 1845 01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:54,548 [dramatic music playing] 1846 01:20:54,583 --> 01:20:55,583 [Lorie] How are you doing? 1847 01:20:55,617 --> 01:20:57,518 Where is your stuff? 1848 01:20:57,552 --> 01:20:58,719 [indistinct] 1849 01:20:58,753 --> 01:21:01,121 Oh, how was your flight? 1850 01:21:01,156 --> 01:21:03,257 It's good. 1851 01:21:03,291 --> 01:21:05,259 Back home for good. 1852 01:21:06,661 --> 01:21:08,128 [Nathan] Coming home, 1853 01:21:08,163 --> 01:21:09,830 it doesn't really feel real yet, 1854 01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,966 I came back with a lot more self-confidence 1855 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,400 and definitely patience, 1856 01:21:13,435 --> 01:21:15,135 like, understanding for others. 1857 01:21:15,170 --> 01:21:16,604 I guess it'll probably hit me sooner 1858 01:21:16,638 --> 01:21:18,205 and when I start like school and all that, 1859 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,040 that I'm here for good and I'm really not, 1860 01:21:20,075 --> 01:21:22,576 like, gonna go anywhere else. 1861 01:21:22,611 --> 01:21:24,478 [Lorie] Ooh, what's this? 1862 01:21:24,512 --> 01:21:26,747 [Nathan] Oh, I, like, put all the pictures in there. 1863 01:21:26,781 --> 01:21:29,583 You made this out of surgical tape. 1864 01:21:29,618 --> 01:21:32,253 - Mmm-hmm. - [Lorie] Physically, I mean, 1865 01:21:32,287 --> 01:21:34,221 I sent away a little boy, you know, 1866 01:21:34,256 --> 01:21:37,057 I sent away a little scrawny thing 1867 01:21:37,092 --> 01:21:40,995 and they sent me back this man, you know. 1868 01:21:41,029 --> 01:21:42,930 That's cool to see, you know, 1869 01:21:42,964 --> 01:21:45,432 because I love who he's becoming, uh, I do. 1870 01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:47,101 He's a good person. 1871 01:21:48,436 --> 01:21:50,437 Oh, how did you get that picture? 1872 01:21:50,472 --> 01:21:51,872 They sent it to me. 1873 01:21:51,907 --> 01:21:53,307 - [Nathan] Cool. - [Lorie] So sweet, 1874 01:21:53,341 --> 01:21:56,543 that was Fanny, that was his dog in school. 1875 01:21:56,578 --> 01:21:57,978 [Nathan] Coming back home, 1876 01:21:58,013 --> 01:21:59,546 I think it's gonna be a lot easier 1877 01:21:59,581 --> 01:22:02,283 to like use the skills that I got just to like 1878 01:22:02,317 --> 01:22:04,685 get along with my mom and like work things out, 1879 01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:06,820 like use communication, actually get things done. 1880 01:22:06,855 --> 01:22:09,189 There's always gonna be things in the beginning 1881 01:22:09,224 --> 01:22:10,624 that's still gonna, like, 1882 01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:12,660 take getting used to but it's just nice 1883 01:22:12,694 --> 01:22:15,496 to like have my freedom and be able to like 1884 01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:17,731 kind of run my own life and take some control 1885 01:22:17,766 --> 01:22:19,934 over that, because it's been awhile. 1886 01:22:19,968 --> 01:22:21,302 [knocks on door] 1887 01:22:24,539 --> 01:22:26,340 - [Neylan] Hi. - Hey, what's up? 1888 01:22:28,376 --> 01:22:29,810 Hi, Neylan. 1889 01:22:29,844 --> 01:22:31,345 Oh, my gosh, look how tall you've got. 1890 01:22:31,379 --> 01:22:32,646 I haven't seen you in, like, 1891 01:22:32,681 --> 01:22:34,848 look at you, taller than he is. 1892 01:22:34,883 --> 01:22:35,983 Well, it's been a long time, so... 1893 01:22:36,017 --> 01:22:36,984 [Lorie] It's been what? 1894 01:22:37,018 --> 01:22:37,985 You haven't seen her since, 1895 01:22:38,019 --> 01:22:39,553 uh, like California, right? 1896 01:22:39,587 --> 01:22:41,555 Mmm-hmm. Like two and a half, three years. 1897 01:22:41,589 --> 01:22:43,324 [Lorie] Two and a half... Almost three years. Yeah. 1898 01:22:43,358 --> 01:22:45,326 - Wow. - [Neylan] There were days 1899 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,127 whenever I'd be sitting there thinking 1900 01:22:47,162 --> 01:22:49,563 about the siblings and everything. 1901 01:22:49,597 --> 01:22:51,465 And I just get really emotional and I was like, 1902 01:22:51,533 --> 01:22:53,033 "I miss Nathan so much." 1903 01:22:53,068 --> 01:22:54,868 And like I'd tell my mom and she was like, 1904 01:22:54,903 --> 01:22:56,503 "I know you do, Neylan." 1905 01:22:56,538 --> 01:22:58,839 And so I think it was like really exciting 1906 01:22:58,873 --> 01:23:01,342 for us whenever we heard that he was coming back. 1907 01:23:01,376 --> 01:23:02,910 Because I think me and him 1908 01:23:02,944 --> 01:23:05,179 like really clicked whenever we were 13. 1909 01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:06,914 - [Nathan] Yeah. - [Neylan] So, 1910 01:23:06,948 --> 01:23:09,016 it kind of sucked not being able to like grow 1911 01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:11,251 on that together for a few years, 1912 01:23:11,286 --> 01:23:13,754 but like now we can because he's back 1913 01:23:13,788 --> 01:23:17,224 and we can talk all the time if we wanted to. 1914 01:23:17,258 --> 01:23:18,625 You don't want a shot of this one? 1915 01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:21,362 [Nathan] Nice. 1916 01:23:21,396 --> 01:23:22,463 [Neylan] I'm not sure if everyone 1917 01:23:22,497 --> 01:23:23,731 is gonna get the tattoo, 1918 01:23:23,765 --> 01:23:25,199 I know some of them already have 1919 01:23:25,233 --> 01:23:26,900 but just with the number. 1920 01:23:26,935 --> 01:23:28,736 And they've gotten it in place where, like, 1921 01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:30,604 it's not very noticeable. 1922 01:23:30,638 --> 01:23:32,239 I don't know, I'd like... I'd get the tattoo, 1923 01:23:32,273 --> 01:23:34,575 I don't know how much I'd want the sperm 1924 01:23:34,609 --> 01:23:36,210 floating around on my leg, 1925 01:23:36,244 --> 01:23:39,747 but I'd get the numbers, it's cool. 1926 01:23:39,781 --> 01:23:41,882 [Neylan] So we found a new sibling, 1927 01:23:41,916 --> 01:23:44,885 she's from Hawaii, so that's pretty cool. 1928 01:23:44,919 --> 01:23:46,787 There she is. 1929 01:23:46,821 --> 01:23:51,025 That makes 22 siblings counting all of us together. 1930 01:23:51,059 --> 01:23:52,559 [Nathan] And she's 17? 1931 01:23:52,594 --> 01:23:54,762 - [Neylan] Yeah. - [Nathan] Nice. 1932 01:23:54,796 --> 01:23:57,197 [Neylan] I was nervous to see him again 1933 01:23:57,232 --> 01:23:59,433 because I don't know, I haven't seen him in forever. 1934 01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:00,968 So I was kind of scared that it... 1935 01:24:01,002 --> 01:24:02,469 Like, things had changed so much 1936 01:24:02,504 --> 01:24:03,470 that we wouldn't get along 1937 01:24:03,505 --> 01:24:05,406 as well as we did before. 1938 01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,408 [Nathan] I was on the same page as Neylan 1939 01:24:07,442 --> 01:24:08,976 just because it's kind of weird, like, 1940 01:24:09,010 --> 01:24:11,111 not seeing someone for such a long time 1941 01:24:11,146 --> 01:24:12,479 like two and a half years. 1942 01:24:12,514 --> 01:24:14,459 But the connection is still there, 1943 01:24:14,483 --> 01:24:16,784 which I'm, like, glad to see 1944 01:24:16,818 --> 01:24:18,986 so it's good to be back. 1945 01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:21,588 [birds chirping] 1946 01:24:21,623 --> 01:24:24,658 [dramatic music playing] 1947 01:24:26,895 --> 01:24:28,695 [Mattie] After my 18th birthday, 1948 01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,465 I was waiting to hear back from Latrice. 1949 01:24:31,533 --> 01:24:34,435 And I was just kind of not really sure 1950 01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:37,638 how to proceed with everything. 1951 01:24:37,672 --> 01:24:39,773 I was always kind of hesitant about it 1952 01:24:39,808 --> 01:24:42,509 and I was doing it for the other siblings 1953 01:24:42,544 --> 01:24:45,512 but also for myself. And I don't know. 1954 01:24:45,547 --> 01:24:47,214 It's kind of one of those things 1955 01:24:47,248 --> 01:24:49,650 where you're putting yourself so far out there 1956 01:24:49,684 --> 01:24:52,786 and you're not sure what the results are gonna be. 1957 01:24:52,821 --> 01:24:55,823 I got kind of very anxious and nervous about it 1958 01:24:55,857 --> 01:24:58,692 just because I didn't wanna have to be the one, 1959 01:24:58,726 --> 01:25:02,496 like, if he did reject having contact with me. 1960 01:25:02,530 --> 01:25:04,731 That for myself would've been hard to handle, 1961 01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:08,669 but then also having to tell all the other half-siblings, 1962 01:25:08,703 --> 01:25:10,871 I didn't want to be the one to, kind of, 1963 01:25:10,905 --> 01:25:12,573 break their hearts, in a sense, 1964 01:25:12,607 --> 01:25:15,809 especially those who really do want to contact 1965 01:25:15,877 --> 01:25:18,545 the donor and end up meeting him and everything. 1966 01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:22,249 And I don't know. It was a lot of pressure. 1967 01:25:22,283 --> 01:25:24,518 It's not that I didn't want to 1968 01:25:24,552 --> 01:25:27,354 because I did, 1969 01:25:27,388 --> 01:25:29,556 but I don't know, 1970 01:25:29,591 --> 01:25:31,525 I'm just comfortable with my life. 1971 01:25:37,432 --> 01:25:40,901 [crickets chirping] 1972 01:25:40,935 --> 01:25:43,170 [Sadie] All right. So right now, I just got, um, 1973 01:25:43,204 --> 01:25:44,838 an email from the Cryobank 1974 01:25:44,873 --> 01:25:47,908 that's forwarding the information 1975 01:25:47,942 --> 01:25:49,510 my donor applied to, um, 1976 01:25:49,544 --> 01:25:51,545 because I wrote in when I turned 18 1977 01:25:51,579 --> 01:25:53,080 about a month ago. 1978 01:25:53,114 --> 01:25:55,482 Um, to see if he wanted contact, 1979 01:25:55,517 --> 01:25:57,251 so, um, right now 1980 01:25:57,285 --> 01:26:00,254 I'm gonna go open the email. 1981 01:26:00,288 --> 01:26:02,789 It's almost 12:30 AM. 1982 01:26:04,025 --> 01:26:05,025 All right. 1983 01:26:07,295 --> 01:26:08,795 There's a photo. 1984 01:26:15,136 --> 01:26:17,404 He said he loves my funky dreads. 1985 01:26:19,941 --> 01:26:21,875 He said, "There's not a day that I do not think" 1986 01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:23,944 about you and your siblings. 1987 01:26:23,978 --> 01:26:26,747 I have had many nights with little sleep pondering 1988 01:26:26,781 --> 01:26:28,549 and considering your lives. 1989 01:26:28,583 --> 01:26:30,117 The answers I have found have made me feel 1990 01:26:30,151 --> 01:26:32,252 incredibly touched, thankful, and proud. 1991 01:26:32,287 --> 01:26:34,321 I'm grateful that for whatever reason 1992 01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:36,056 and from whatever I gather so far, 1993 01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:37,925 that people that chose to have you appear 1994 01:26:37,959 --> 01:26:40,561 to have done a great job. 1995 01:26:40,595 --> 01:26:42,629 Right now, I feel deeply appreciated for this 1996 01:26:42,664 --> 01:26:44,798 opportunity to learn of your... 1997 01:26:44,832 --> 01:26:46,934 Of you and your wanting to know more about me. 1998 01:26:46,968 --> 01:26:48,635 Thank you for sharing your picture, information, 1999 01:26:48,670 --> 01:26:49,937 "and questions." 2000 01:26:52,574 --> 01:26:55,075 He's so nice. 2001 01:26:55,109 --> 01:26:57,911 The response really has exceeded my expectations. 2002 01:26:57,946 --> 01:26:59,379 He sent so much. 2003 01:26:59,414 --> 01:27:02,849 I sent maybe like 10 short questions 2004 01:27:02,884 --> 01:27:06,386 and he's responded with in-depth paragraphs 2005 01:27:06,421 --> 01:27:08,522 that are really thoughtful 2006 01:27:08,556 --> 01:27:11,625 and just seems like 2007 01:27:11,659 --> 01:27:14,728 it comes from the heart and he's truly interested 2008 01:27:14,762 --> 01:27:16,630 and wants to share the information, 2009 01:27:16,664 --> 01:27:17,998 which is nice. 2010 01:27:18,032 --> 01:27:19,266 He's not just doing it 2011 01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:22,469 to answer some questions and please me. 2012 01:27:22,503 --> 01:27:26,240 He seems to want to share and want to connect a bit. 2013 01:27:27,642 --> 01:27:30,677 All of a sudden, I get this text from Sadie. 2014 01:27:30,712 --> 01:27:33,647 Do you want to see pictures of the donor? 2015 01:27:33,681 --> 01:27:35,716 I was just, like, out to dinner with my grandparents 2016 01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:37,184 and then started to text me 2017 01:27:37,218 --> 01:27:38,619 and I was just, like, "Oh, my gosh. 2018 01:27:38,653 --> 01:27:40,153 What's going on?" 2019 01:27:40,188 --> 01:27:41,855 And they're like, "Mattie, get off the phone." 2020 01:27:41,889 --> 01:27:43,790 I'm like, "I can't, I can't get off my phone, 2021 01:27:43,825 --> 01:27:45,225 you don't understand." 2022 01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:47,861 I screamed and shut the computer 2023 01:27:47,895 --> 01:27:49,796 and ran to my room. 2024 01:27:49,831 --> 01:27:51,965 That's my dad. 2025 01:27:52,033 --> 01:27:54,368 My mom had just pulled out of the driveway 2026 01:27:54,402 --> 01:27:57,137 and it was like, "Mom, come back." 2027 01:27:57,171 --> 01:27:59,006 But she got back and I was, like, crying 2028 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,607 and holding my phone and she was, like, 2029 01:28:00,642 --> 01:28:02,442 "What's wrong?" And I was like, 2030 01:28:02,477 --> 01:28:04,911 - "Here." - Come on. 2031 01:28:04,946 --> 01:28:06,713 Oh, my God. 2032 01:28:06,748 --> 01:28:08,548 [Daniel] It's, like, so surreal, 2033 01:28:08,583 --> 01:28:11,885 like, it's hard to think that... 2034 01:28:11,919 --> 01:28:15,589 This is the person that I have been hunting 2035 01:28:15,623 --> 01:28:18,091 and wondering about for my whole life. 2036 01:28:18,126 --> 01:28:20,894 I had school today and I didn't go. [laughs] 2037 01:28:20,928 --> 01:28:23,463 I was too, like, emotionally, like, paralyzed 2038 01:28:23,498 --> 01:28:25,766 to do any of my homework or study. 2039 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,068 I don't think it's still, like, hit me yet, 2040 01:28:28,102 --> 01:28:30,937 but every single time I say it, I start to cry. 2041 01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:33,240 It doesn't seem real. 2042 01:28:33,274 --> 01:28:35,842 Sadie, she sends them and I couldn't look at them, 2043 01:28:35,877 --> 01:28:37,778 so I gave it to my friends and they... 2044 01:28:37,812 --> 01:28:39,379 And I sat on the other side of them 2045 01:28:39,414 --> 01:28:41,181 and, like, they were all lined up on the couch 2046 01:28:41,215 --> 01:28:43,583 in this dorm and I was, like, 2047 01:28:43,618 --> 01:28:45,052 "Can you look at them?" 2048 01:28:45,086 --> 01:28:46,253 And they were like, "Yeah." 2049 01:28:46,287 --> 01:28:47,254 And so I gave them the phone 2050 01:28:47,288 --> 01:28:49,456 and they're, like, 2051 01:28:49,490 --> 01:28:52,125 "He's hot." [laughs] 2052 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,095 I showed my friends today at basketball 2053 01:28:55,129 --> 01:28:56,930 and they're like, "Wow. Like, that's you. 2054 01:28:56,964 --> 01:28:58,665 Like, you look exactly like him." 2055 01:28:58,733 --> 01:29:00,667 I wished me and him looked more alike 2056 01:29:00,702 --> 01:29:03,136 because I don't really see any features that we share. 2057 01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:05,772 Some of the other boys look a lot like him. 2058 01:29:05,807 --> 01:29:08,175 Our noses are, like, exactly the same. 2059 01:29:08,209 --> 01:29:09,910 Literally, if you Photoshopped 2060 01:29:09,944 --> 01:29:12,179 all of our faces into one person. 2061 01:29:12,213 --> 01:29:13,580 Like, it just makes sense, 2062 01:29:13,614 --> 01:29:15,282 like, everything makes sense now. 2063 01:29:15,316 --> 01:29:17,984 I won't have to wonder anymore. 2064 01:29:18,019 --> 01:29:19,419 Like, I don't look at a guy and be like, 2065 01:29:19,454 --> 01:29:20,654 "Oh, you could be my dad." 2066 01:29:20,688 --> 01:29:23,023 Like I know what he looks like. 2067 01:29:23,057 --> 01:29:26,326 [dramatic music playing] 2068 01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:28,962 [Alexis] Turning 18 was like the most anticipated birthday 2069 01:29:28,996 --> 01:29:30,664 of my entire life because I knew 2070 01:29:30,698 --> 01:29:31,965 I was able to possibly 2071 01:29:32,033 --> 01:29:33,500 come in contact with the donor. 2072 01:29:33,534 --> 01:29:35,502 When I got the email from the Cryobank, 2073 01:29:35,536 --> 01:29:38,271 there was like an attachment, and that attachment 2074 01:29:38,306 --> 01:29:40,073 was the letter from the donor to me. 2075 01:29:40,108 --> 01:29:42,509 What he had saved it as was, 2076 01:29:42,543 --> 01:29:44,411 "To Alexis." 2077 01:29:44,445 --> 01:29:47,748 And that already had me, like, this. 2078 01:29:47,782 --> 01:29:50,517 One of the most impactful things that he said 2079 01:29:50,551 --> 01:29:53,487 in his letter was, "I think about you every day." 2080 01:29:53,521 --> 01:29:54,955 I don't know how to explain 2081 01:29:54,989 --> 01:29:58,191 how I felt about that in words. 2082 01:29:58,226 --> 01:30:01,161 It meant so much to me 2083 01:30:01,195 --> 01:30:02,829 that he said that. 2084 01:30:02,864 --> 01:30:04,598 Three days later I was in class 2085 01:30:04,632 --> 01:30:07,100 and I just broke down completely. 2086 01:30:07,135 --> 01:30:08,769 And I think it was just this... 2087 01:30:08,803 --> 01:30:11,738 Like a realization and processing of, like, 2088 01:30:11,773 --> 01:30:13,740 not just that he had contacted me 2089 01:30:13,775 --> 01:30:15,242 but what that meant 2090 01:30:15,276 --> 01:30:18,845 and all of the emotions behind that. 2091 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,115 I was really just blown away. 2092 01:30:22,150 --> 01:30:24,918 I mean, I could almost feel like a physical, 2093 01:30:24,952 --> 01:30:27,020 uh, something, you know. 2094 01:30:27,054 --> 01:30:30,957 I mean, it was just so incredible, 2095 01:30:30,992 --> 01:30:33,593 incredible to meet this person 2096 01:30:33,628 --> 01:30:36,163 because I felt, like, I was meeting him 2097 01:30:36,197 --> 01:30:37,431 even though, you know, 2098 01:30:37,465 --> 01:30:39,399 there was no name attached to it. 2099 01:30:39,467 --> 01:30:42,736 Um, and I still... I still can't get over it. 2100 01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:44,571 I felt like Javier was really happy for me 2101 01:30:44,605 --> 01:30:45,939 because he knew that it was something 2102 01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:47,908 that I've wanted for a really long time. 2103 01:30:47,942 --> 01:30:49,309 He's kind of shy about expressing 2104 01:30:49,343 --> 01:30:51,778 his emotions but he can be very sweet. 2105 01:30:51,813 --> 01:30:54,014 Um, so he just kind of ruffled my head 2106 01:30:54,048 --> 01:30:56,450 and he's like [speaking Spanish] 2107 01:30:56,484 --> 01:30:58,418 which means, like, "Oh, you found your dad, huh?" 2108 01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:00,520 This is something that is you... 2109 01:31:00,555 --> 01:31:03,824 As a human being, you need to have this. 2110 01:31:03,858 --> 01:31:05,592 And I think I see Alexis also, like, 2111 01:31:05,626 --> 01:31:08,495 before, she was more, you know, anxious 2112 01:31:08,529 --> 01:31:10,497 to see what was gonna happen 2113 01:31:10,531 --> 01:31:12,165 because she had to be 18, but now that... 2114 01:31:12,233 --> 01:31:14,901 like this, a lot of relief. 2115 01:31:14,936 --> 01:31:18,371 And if she's relieved we are relieved for sure. 2116 01:31:18,406 --> 01:31:20,574 I think, uh, before I turned 18, 2117 01:31:20,608 --> 01:31:22,409 a lot of my frustration 2118 01:31:22,443 --> 01:31:25,378 lied in not necessarily not knowing who the donor was 2119 01:31:25,413 --> 01:31:27,047 but not knowing whether I would ever know 2120 01:31:27,081 --> 01:31:29,082 who the donor was, so the uncertainty. 2121 01:31:29,116 --> 01:31:33,653 Honestly, I've always had a little bit of self-doubt, 2122 01:31:33,688 --> 01:31:36,022 "Did I make a selfish decision 2123 01:31:36,057 --> 01:31:38,925 by choosing to have her by myself?" 2124 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,430 And I think that this has brought her so much joy 2125 01:31:43,464 --> 01:31:46,800 and also validation that I don't think 2126 01:31:46,834 --> 01:31:50,403 I'm gonna feel that as frequently as I have. 2127 01:31:52,406 --> 01:31:54,841 [Alexis] So I wrote the donor back and this is 2128 01:31:54,876 --> 01:31:57,811 how I ended my letter to him, 2129 01:31:57,845 --> 01:32:00,213 "I'm also very happy to be in contact with you." 2130 01:32:00,248 --> 01:32:02,282 It does feel very unreal as it is something 2131 01:32:02,316 --> 01:32:03,984 that has always seemed like a very far way 2132 01:32:04,018 --> 01:32:05,619 and uncertain thing. 2133 01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:07,454 I have of course wondered and thought about you 2134 01:32:07,488 --> 01:32:09,122 and your family every day 2135 01:32:09,156 --> 01:32:10,457 for as long as I can remember. 2136 01:32:10,491 --> 01:32:12,392 So your response means a lot. 2137 01:32:12,426 --> 01:32:13,894 Like you've hoped, your being a donor 2138 01:32:13,928 --> 01:32:16,229 has for sure resulted many happy families. 2139 01:32:16,264 --> 01:32:18,164 Meeting these families, and my brothers and sisters, 2140 01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:19,633 has brought a whole lot of friendship, 2141 01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:22,435 love, and support into all of our lives. 2142 01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:26,473 I feel very grateful as do my siblings and their parents. 2143 01:32:26,507 --> 01:32:28,875 "Looking forward to our next correspondence." 2144 01:32:28,910 --> 01:32:31,912 [dramatic music playing] 2145 01:32:33,748 --> 01:32:36,750 [birds chirping] 2146 01:32:50,798 --> 01:32:54,234 [man] Today's date is November 3rd, 2017. 2147 01:32:54,268 --> 01:32:57,270 This is Donor 5114. 2148 01:32:57,305 --> 01:32:58,872 My being a donor has been on my mind 2149 01:32:58,906 --> 01:33:00,574 through the years. 2150 01:33:00,608 --> 01:33:03,510 As a donor, you have an opportunity to ponder 2151 01:33:03,544 --> 01:33:06,012 and to care about something 2152 01:33:06,047 --> 01:33:08,315 that is going to exist 2153 01:33:08,349 --> 01:33:11,718 that is out of your control. 2154 01:33:11,752 --> 01:33:14,554 The decision for me to become an anonymous donor 2155 01:33:14,589 --> 01:33:17,057 was out of respect to the parents. 2156 01:33:17,091 --> 01:33:19,993 I felt, like, removing me as a variable 2157 01:33:20,027 --> 01:33:22,829 would help parents to create a nurturing 2158 01:33:22,863 --> 01:33:26,433 and stable environment without any distractions. 2159 01:33:26,467 --> 01:33:29,502 But I certainly was hopeful 2160 01:33:29,537 --> 01:33:31,605 that I would get information 2161 01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:33,607 and learn as much as I could 2162 01:33:33,641 --> 01:33:35,175 about how they were all doing. 2163 01:33:35,209 --> 01:33:36,776 I think if I hadn't, 2164 01:33:36,811 --> 01:33:39,412 it would probably start eating at me. 2165 01:33:41,248 --> 01:33:44,317 It's hard to imagine being the genetic half 2166 01:33:44,352 --> 01:33:46,019 to so many people. 2167 01:33:46,053 --> 01:33:47,954 People that are related to you 2168 01:33:47,989 --> 01:33:49,789 in a significant way 2169 01:33:49,824 --> 01:33:52,225 after not knowing them ever 2170 01:33:52,259 --> 01:33:54,995 in person for much of their life. 2171 01:33:55,029 --> 01:33:58,331 I've given some thought to what it might be like 2172 01:33:58,366 --> 01:34:01,434 for some of the offspring to have the curiosity 2173 01:34:01,469 --> 01:34:05,005 about who their biological father might be. 2174 01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:07,007 That's really one big reason 2175 01:34:07,041 --> 01:34:08,508 why I'm participating in this, 2176 01:34:08,542 --> 01:34:11,511 is so that I can help them 2177 01:34:11,545 --> 01:34:13,279 finally deal with those questions, 2178 01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:16,883 uh, and have answers to those questions. 2179 01:34:16,917 --> 01:34:19,185 I would love to meet each of the kids, 2180 01:34:19,220 --> 01:34:21,588 you know, I think it would be a really neat experience. 2181 01:34:21,622 --> 01:34:23,023 I'm very curious to meet them 2182 01:34:23,057 --> 01:34:26,226 and to learn from their experiences 2183 01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:27,761 and to see how things are going. 2184 01:34:27,795 --> 01:34:32,165 And the best part of being a donor so far 2185 01:34:32,233 --> 01:34:34,567 is knowing that I helped people 2186 01:34:34,602 --> 01:34:37,270 and knowing that people that really wanted 2187 01:34:37,304 --> 01:34:40,340 to have a family were able to have a family. 2188 01:34:40,374 --> 01:34:43,076 So my wife and I are going through this together. 2189 01:34:43,110 --> 01:34:45,412 I'm looking forward to all of the experiences 2190 01:34:45,446 --> 01:34:48,214 that can be shared. The answers I've found 2191 01:34:48,249 --> 01:34:50,283 have made me feel incredibly touched, 2192 01:34:50,317 --> 01:34:52,919 thankful, and proud. 2193 01:34:58,759 --> 01:35:01,828 [birds chirping] 2194 01:35:19,780 --> 01:35:23,183 [Nathan] If I never connected with any of the siblings, 2195 01:35:23,217 --> 01:35:25,351 I think my life would be a lot different. 2196 01:35:25,386 --> 01:35:26,920 I think as a person, 2197 01:35:26,954 --> 01:35:29,756 I'd still be relatively the same 2198 01:35:29,790 --> 01:35:31,691 but I would definitely be missing out 2199 01:35:31,726 --> 01:35:34,260 on some great relationships and bonds with people 2200 01:35:34,295 --> 01:35:36,529 that you can't really get any other way. 2201 01:35:39,433 --> 01:35:41,101 [Danny] Growing up like when you're in middle school 2202 01:35:41,135 --> 01:35:43,303 and high school, having people that 2203 01:35:43,337 --> 01:35:45,238 you can relate to and fall back on, 2204 01:35:45,272 --> 01:35:48,475 it just really has created such an amazing 2205 01:35:48,509 --> 01:35:50,009 support system for me. 2206 01:35:50,044 --> 01:35:51,644 And I don't know, 2207 01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:53,646 I just don't think I question myself 2208 01:35:53,681 --> 01:35:55,615 as much as I used to. 2209 01:35:57,485 --> 01:35:58,985 [Mattie] Through the whole process, 2210 01:35:59,019 --> 01:36:01,421 it was just mostly like a self-discovery, 2211 01:36:01,455 --> 01:36:04,357 like, all of the things that I went through 2212 01:36:04,391 --> 01:36:05,825 and the people that I met, 2213 01:36:05,860 --> 01:36:08,595 it helped lead me to who I am now. 2214 01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:10,396 I've learned to be more curious 2215 01:36:10,431 --> 01:36:11,731 and to not push the limits 2216 01:36:11,766 --> 01:36:13,266 but test it a little. 2217 01:36:15,002 --> 01:36:17,737 [Neylan] This experience has thought me that 2218 01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:19,739 your family is more than like 2219 01:36:19,774 --> 01:36:22,742 who is right there with you all the time. 2220 01:36:22,777 --> 01:36:24,511 And you can feel close to somebody 2221 01:36:24,545 --> 01:36:27,647 that lives in Alaska or, like, across the country 2222 01:36:27,681 --> 01:36:29,716 from you or wherever they are. 2223 01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:31,151 It's just how you choose 2224 01:36:31,185 --> 01:36:34,387 to build that relationship. 2225 01:36:34,421 --> 01:36:38,024 [Alexis] To my younger self, I would say 2226 01:36:38,058 --> 01:36:39,926 you can come into this world mad 2227 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,228 about how you were conceived 2228 01:36:42,263 --> 01:36:44,664 but you also have to realize 2229 01:36:44,698 --> 01:36:47,200 that you function completely independently 2230 01:36:47,234 --> 01:36:48,802 from any of those other factors 2231 01:36:48,836 --> 01:36:50,537 and that you are your own person 2232 01:36:50,571 --> 01:36:52,405 and that it does not matter. 2233 01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,207 At the end of the day, 2234 01:36:54,241 --> 01:36:56,910 you're still you, and it's okay. 2235 01:36:56,944 --> 01:37:00,013 [dramatic music playing] 2236 01:37:12,426 --> 01:37:15,461 [dramatic music playing] 172569

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