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Derrick: i haven't been here at the
harris county cemetery in years,
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but i sure remember the day
in 2009 that we buried him.
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we buried him in babyland, in the children's
part of the cemetery.
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He was in this beautiful
white casket,
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that was a child-size casket
because he was skeletal.
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We know how he died
and it wasn't an easy death.
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I've spent 14 years trying to figure
out who this boy is.
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he's the last unidentified boy who died
at the hands
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of one of america's worst serial killers:
dean allen corll,
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otherwise known
as the candy man.
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Hollandsworth: this is a story
without any redemption.
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There is nothing but terror and madness
and grief in this story.
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The news tonight
begins with murder.
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Man on tv: so far, 17 bodies
have been found
in the boathouse.
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Police expect to find more
when they resume digging
later today.
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Narrator: the candy man's
reign of terror was almost
immediately overtaken
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by another killer
preying on young men.
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John wayne gacy,
otherwise known
as the killer clown.
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Together over eight years,
they killed more than 60 boys.
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Man 1: they were
like kids in a candy shop.
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They just saw opportunity
everywhere they looked.
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Woman: he came home and said,
"oh, we were digging
around his house,"
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and it ended up they were
digging their own graves.
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These kids were crying
for their moms.
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James: they would
tie them on the torture board
and molest them.
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Narrator: many thought that
john wayne gacy
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and dean corll
were lone psychopaths,
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but this series investigates
evidence they were linked
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to a secret,
nation-wide network.
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Man on tv: police in dallas
think they've uncovered
a nation-wide
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procurement ring
for homosexuals.
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Man 2: i'd call it
a pedophile cell,
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and i think it could be
compared to a terrorist cell.
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Man 1: i was sexually
exploited by a pedophile ring
from age five to age 12.
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It's like psychological
and emotional quicksand.
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Narrator: it was
a massive network
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and one of its masterminds,
a shadowy figure.
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Man 3: it's a snake
of snakes.
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His name is john david norman.
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He's a pedophile,
and he ran a ring.
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Man 4: he sent boys
to service clients
throughout the states.
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They came from
all walks of life.
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Doctors, lawyers,
all the way down.
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Man 3: and, yes,
they were in communication
with one another.
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They knew exactly
what was going on.
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Narrator: this series
uncovers a hidden conspiracy
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of pedophiles and child-killers
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and in never-before-heard
conversations,
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a glimpse into the twisted
world of the killer clown.
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Phone operator: you have
a collect call from...
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gacy: john gacy.
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Hollandsworth: there's an
entire industry
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devoted to serial killers
in america.
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Even with all the technology
that we now have
to catch killers like this,
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it's bewildering that
no-one saw it happening
back in 1970 to 1973.
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Well, i'm a true crime writer
at texas monthly,
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and i thought i knew
all the major crime stories.
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This old retired
radio reporter i met
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told me that the most
devastating story
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he had ever worked on
in his entire career
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was the story of what
dean corll did
to those boys in houston.
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And i said,
"who's dean corll?"
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narrator: the answer begins
with a phone call
to the police
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on a hot summer morning in 1973,
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and a dark secret world
starts to unravel.
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Outside 2020 lamar,
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the police find
three shaken teens.
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Seventeen-year-old
elmer wayne henley,
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nineteen-year-old tim kerley,
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and fifteen-year-old
rhonda williams
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and a .22 caliber gun
on the ground.
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Smith: they were all
sitting on a curb,
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and immediately when henley
made a statement
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that he'd shot dean corll
and that his body
was inside the house.
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narrator: in the hallway
is a man's naked body.
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He's been shot six times.
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A search of the house shows
this is anything but routine.
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Smith: in one bedroom,
there were polyethylene.
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Plastic was rolled out
on the floor,
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and a board with holes in it,
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handcuffs and ropes attached
to various sexual devices.
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A lot of, ah,
acrylic spray cans,
marijuana.
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Narrator: thirty-three-
year-old dean corll seemed
an unlikely murder victim.
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A lineman at the houston
lighting & power company,
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he was a familiar face
in the heights.
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His mother had owned
the candy store and factory
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in the neighborhood.
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Milligan: i was
in the fifth grade,
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and we were on the playground
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and someone yelled,
"the candy man."
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and these little kids
were running like mad
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to the fence to get candy,
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and i turned to a friend
of mine and i said,
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"who's the candy man?"
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he goes, "ah, his family
runs a candy store
about four blocks over."
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hollandsworth: dean corll
was his big, broad-shouldered
young man,
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thick black hair,
big black sideburns,
and friendly.
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He was always good
with the kids who came by
the candy factory.
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He would give them free candy
that his mom had made,
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pralines or turkish delights
or pecan logs.
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He set up a pool table
in the back room,
he let the kids play there.
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He would sometimes give them
rides on his motorcycle.
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He was sort of like
a good boy scout leader.
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He wasn't someone
that people were scared of.
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Narrator: why, then,
would a 17-year-old kid
from the neighborhood
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claimed he had to kill
the candy man in self-defense?
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The story henley
tells the police
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paints a very different picture
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of the friendly guy
in the neighborhood.
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Smith: they were
having a party there.
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They were, uh, what we called
in those days, bagging,
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they're sniffing
the acrylic spray
out of a bag to get high.
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They got so high
they passed out,
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and when they woke up,
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uh, they were all tied up
or handcuffed,
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all three of 'em,
including wayne henley.
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Narrator: henley tells
the police that the candy man
had a secret obsession.
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He liked underage boys.
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Corll had no affinity
for women whatsoever.
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He was angry with henley
because henley had brought
the girl there.
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Corll wanted henley
to have sex with the girl
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while he had sex
with the other young boy
that was there,
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and henley had refused.
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Narrator: henley says
corll threatened him
with a gun,
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so he agreed to do
whatever corll wanted.
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Henley talked him
into letting him out
of the hand cuffs,
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and when he did that,
he immediately grabbed
the pistol and shot him.
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narrator: it seemed
an unbelievable story,
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and might have ended there:
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a drug-fueled sex orgy
that got out of hand,
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until henley tells them
an insane story.
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Smith: that's when
he told the story
about corll telling him
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about murdering, torturing,
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sexually assaulting young boys
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and burying them in a boatshed.
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and he even had names
of some of the boys
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that he said corll killed.
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I didn't believe him.
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It just seemed
such a bizarre story,
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and i've heard
many bizarre stories before
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that didn't turn out to be true.
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We started checking out these names to
see if they were missing persons
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or runaway juveniles, and that's when we learned
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that some of them have been
listed as missing or runaways.
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Narrator: missing boys,
bodies in a boatshed.
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Henley says
he can take them there.
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Henley was, i would say,
matter-of-fact.
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He was a very smart, streetwise kid.
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He showed no emotion about it.
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Narrator: that afternoon,
henley leads the police
on the 30-minute drive
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to 4500 silver bell street.
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Smith: we found the boatshed
but it was locked.
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I got a tire tool out of the car
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and i broke the hinges
off of a galvanized door.
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And immediately,
when we open the door,
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it smelled really bad.
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At that point, i thought henley's right.
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I believed him.
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Smith: i knew for a fact
that something was dead
inside that boatshed.
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I mean, i'd smelled that before.
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Looking around the ground,
i saw a position
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on the left side of the boatshed
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where the ground
was cracked and raised up.
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That's where i grabbed a shovel.
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I had some trustees there.
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And we started digging,
and about six or eight inches
under the ground,
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we found the first body.
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Nude, wrapped in plastic.
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It had begun decomposition,
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but, uh, it hadn't
been there that long.
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James: you could
smell it when you got out
of the car,
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it was black gumbo
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in a, you know,
15 by 25-foot boat stall.
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It had the most horrible smell
you could ever imagine.
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Of course, it was new to me.
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I'd only been in homicide
for about a month
when that took place.
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smith: we just kept digging
and kept finding more.
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They were layered
on top of one another.
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Some had been buried
for a long time,
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some of them were nothing
but skeletons.
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James: you'd hit lime first,
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and when you hit
a section of lime,
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you knew that there was
a body underneath it.
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We didn't even have gloves.
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All we had, we had body bags.
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You know, there wasn't
much talking
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until you stuck a shovel in
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and pulled out some white lime.
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You said,
"well, here's another one."
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narrator: body after body,
hour after hour.
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The more they dug,
the more they found.
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Smith: it was chaos.
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We tried to keep
the media at bay,
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but they would, uh,
get closer all the time.
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I had to tell some
of them to get out
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because they were walking
into the boatshed.
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After an hour of moving
the shell and soft
sandy clay around,
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the skeletal remains of body
number nine is found
under a layer of lime.
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Smith: henley, he was
standing outside the boatshed.
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He was still handcuffed
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but he asked me
if he could call his mother.
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One of the members
of the media had a car phone.
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the only emotion i ever saw
from him is when he was
on the phone
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with his mother that night
at the boatshed.
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Other than that,
he was just matter-of-fact.
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James: henley thought that
since he had killed corll,
it was over.
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It was just beginning.
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Narrator: the gory details
swept through houston.
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Local tv stations
cut into regular programming.
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Police in houston, texas,
tonight are unraveling
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the grisly details
of a mass murder.
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Twelve bodies have been found.
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It's feared there may be more.
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Henley said the murders
took place at a torture
chamber in this house,
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and he killed corll yesterday
afternoon in self-defense
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after a paint-sniffing
sex party.
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While hiding his face
in the backseat
of a police car.
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Henley talked to khou
newsman judd mcilvain.
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milligan:
when the story broke
about the killings,
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and all of us knew someone,
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multiple people who were
touched by this.
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Furstenfeld: oh, it was
huge news, especially to those
of us in the heights,
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that thought of the heights
as a safety ground.
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Narrator: it was a typical
working-class neighborhood,
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like so many others
across america.
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The next morning,
another teen from the heights
turns himself in,
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and things go from bad to worse.
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David brooks went into
the houston police department
with his father.
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Narrator: the eighteen-
year-old says henley
isn't telling the whole story.
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He says corll didn't act alone.
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Henley wasn't
an innocent bystander,
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he was a willing participant.
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Smith: that's when henley
decided to tell the truth.
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Male reporter: late today,
police said henley,
who's already been implicated
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in the 12 murders,
has confessed to involvement
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in a total of 25 to 30 murders.
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And tonight, police are going
to another site
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at lake sam rayburn,
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about 100 miles away,
to look for more bodies.
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narrator: that evening
at the lake,
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in the woods near a cottage
owned by corll's parents,
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the police dig up
four more graves.
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There seemed to be
no end in sight.
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hollandsworth: henley said,
"well, there's some
more bodies,"
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and they're over at high island.
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And so they did this kind of
en masse trip to high island,
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and brooks and henley
sat on a sand dune.
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Reporters went up to 'em
and asked them questions,
took their photos,
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and they watched and pointed
to where they saw,
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they remembered
the bodies being buried.
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There were young
families out there,
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and kids with pails and
shovels digging in the sand.
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It was the weirdest
surreal scene
you could imagine.
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James: i was out there
more or less,
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i guess, babysitting
henley and brooks,
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while other detectives
and other agencies
were looking for bodies.
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David owen brooks
was very quiet.
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He was just like he was kind
of staring off into space.
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and i tried a couple of times.
Since he didn't reply,
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i just gave up on it.
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I did speak at length
with elmer wayne henley jr.
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He was very talkative.
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He was just talking
like a magpie, you know.
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And he was telling me
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how they would go out
and find boys
walking the street.
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They'd say, "hey, you want
to go to a party?
we're going to have a party."
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and they would either
offer 'em money,
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uh, booze, or there'd
be girls there.
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Narrator: henley explains
that once inside,
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the party turned
into something different.
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James: henley told me that
he had a torture board there.
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He said they would tie them
on the torture board
and molest them.
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They would let the boys go
and they would come back
on more than one occasion.
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Then he said when
they got tired of 'em,
they would kill 'em.
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And henley said,
i didn't know how hard
it was to strangle someone.
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I was just floored by that.
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He said that they would
load the bodies in the van.
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That's how they removed them
from the house,
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and they would either bury 'em
or put 'em in the boat stall.
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Then they started going
to lake sam rayburn
and high island.
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Smith: they all
went together,
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and usually brooks drove
dean corll's white van,
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that had the body box inside,
what they called the body box.
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Henley sure wasn't
upset about it.
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He never shed a tear.
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He just didn't.
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It was just another date
for him, i guess.
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Hollandsworth: henley
and brooks
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didn't just talk teenagers
into getting into the van.
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Once they got to the apartment,
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they helped get them strapped
to the torture board,
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they gagged their mouths,
they bound their hands.
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They put them in position
so that dean could
have sex with them.
294
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It was just as vicious
as what dean was doing.
295
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Narrator: it was a brutal,
calculated killing machine.
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How did corll buy their silence?
297
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And how did no-one
in the heights notice
what was happening?
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hollandsworth: i'm still
the same staff writer i was
30 years ago.
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This is a story
without any redemption.
300
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There is nothing but terror
and madness and grief
in this story.
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Before a few days ago,
the public had never heard
of dean allan corll.
302
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Now he's laid to rest
as the state's most publicized
murder suspect.
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Narrator: six days
after wayne henley
killed dean corll,
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the police unearthed
the bodies of 27 boys,
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seventeen from the boatshed,
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six from the beach,
and four from
lake sam rayburn.
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This orgy of murder
was the worst
in american history.
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James: i've thought about it
every night for a long time.
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You still think about it,
even today,
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and whether or not
we got all the bodies.
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Narrator: desperate
and angry parents of boys
who had disappeared
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flooded the police
department with calls.
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When we went back
to pull reports with kids
who were still missing,
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there was maybe 40
to 50 of those.
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We contacted parents,
asked for dental records.
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Hollandsworth: they were
identified through belts,
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the tennis shoes they wore.
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You know there's no dna
going on back then.
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Narrator: at the morgue,
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the medical examiner's office
worked around the clock.
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Families just waited
for the knock on the door.
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Massey: i personally
had to go to the morgue daily.
323
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That was just
a horrific experience,
324
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because as soon as you
got off the elevator,
325
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the smell of decomposing
bodies was just overwhelming.
326
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I don't know how
the medical examiners
worked in that environment.
327
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When you go back
to the family and say,
328
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"your child has
been identified,
and was a victim,"
329
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and it was really,
really heartbreaking.
330
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Man on tv: one of the first
victims identified was
13-year-old david hilligiest,
331
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who has been missing
for more than two years.
332
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The hilligiests' had spent
thousands of dollars
333
00:20:24,167 --> 00:20:26,667
for private detectives
and in advertisements
334
00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:28,669
in underground newspapers
in search of their son
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and a neighbor
who disappeared with him.
336
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I feared from the very beginning
337
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that something
had happened to them.
338
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But naturally,
along with our fears,
339
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we held our hopes that
some day they would come back.
340
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Narrator: david and his
16-year-old friend malley
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disappeared in broad daylight.
342
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Winkle: malley and david
were going swimming,
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swimming at the local pool.
344
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The pools open
in august, september.
345
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Let's have some fun,
let's get with it,
346
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let's do whatever.
347
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And then they were gone.
348
00:21:06,976 --> 00:21:09,977
Narrator:
both boys were barefoot,
wearing their swimsuits
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and last seen getting
into a white van.
350
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Henley got so involved in this
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that he brought his own friends
352
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to meet corll
and later be killed.
353
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David hilligiest,
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who lived just down the block
from henley's home.
355
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Mark scott, who invited him late
356
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to one of his birthday parties.
357
00:21:31,334 --> 00:21:34,802
Homer garcia, who was
in henley's driver's ed class.
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All of them were murdered.
359
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All of them disappeared.
360
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All of them had parents
who drove the streets at night
361
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looking for them.
362
00:21:45,081 --> 00:21:47,081
Winkle: wayne henley even
put up posters
363
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that they just made
for david and malley.
364
00:21:53,022 --> 00:21:54,633
Uh, he put them up
around the neighborhood
365
00:21:54,657 --> 00:21:57,224
and he was responsible
for abducting him
in the first place.
366
00:21:59,362 --> 00:22:01,696
Malley may have worked
for dean corll
367
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at the candy shop
for a little period of time.
368
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It turns the pit of my stomach.
369
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It is so very scary and painful
370
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that he was that close
to that man.
371
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Narrator: questions swirled.
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How could this happen
right under their noses?
373
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And of all people,
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the guy everyone called
the perfect gentleman,
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the candy man.
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Hollandsworth: dean corll
grew up in indiana
and tennessee
377
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his dad was an electrician.
378
00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:36,797
They came to texas in 1962.
379
00:22:36,833 --> 00:22:38,366
They opened a candy shop.
380
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:42,603
Dean went to high school.
381
00:22:43,473 --> 00:22:45,306
He played trombone in the band.
382
00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:48,742
He was well-liked,
he made decent grades.
383
00:22:48,811 --> 00:22:50,511
He had girls that liked him.
384
00:22:51,681 --> 00:22:53,547
He went to the us army.
385
00:22:53,549 --> 00:22:56,350
He became an expert
in radio operations.
386
00:22:57,787 --> 00:23:00,888
He came back to houston,
worked for his mom,
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00:23:00,957 --> 00:23:02,757
became the neighborhood
candy man.
388
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His mom gets divorced,
she marries a merchant marine.
389
00:23:10,833 --> 00:23:13,033
And he says to her,
390
00:23:13,102 --> 00:23:15,368
"you know, i think there's
something wrong with dean.
391
00:23:15,405 --> 00:23:17,772
I think he's got some
homosexual tendencies.
392
00:23:17,907 --> 00:23:20,841
He sure does like
being around other boys."
393
00:23:21,711 --> 00:23:24,111
his mother was so upset
394
00:23:24,113 --> 00:23:27,047
that she divorced
the merchant marine
395
00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:29,717
and she closed
the candy factory
and moved to colorado.
396
00:23:30,887 --> 00:23:33,520
Now she might have
assumed that dean,
397
00:23:33,556 --> 00:23:36,790
who was so close to her,
would come with her.
398
00:23:36,793 --> 00:23:39,259
But he said,
i'm staying in houston,
399
00:23:39,295 --> 00:23:41,862
and i'm gonna work
at the houston power
and light company
400
00:23:41,931 --> 00:23:42,997
as a lineman,
401
00:23:43,132 --> 00:23:45,866
and for the first time
he was alone,
402
00:23:45,935 --> 00:23:47,401
he had an apartment,
403
00:23:47,536 --> 00:23:50,004
and that's when something
came unleashed in him.
404
00:23:52,775 --> 00:23:55,742
Narrator: corll felt free
to act on his dark desires
405
00:23:55,812 --> 00:23:58,412
and lured two teens
from the neighborhood
406
00:23:58,481 --> 00:24:00,948
to be part
of his killing machine.
407
00:24:01,017 --> 00:24:04,217
As brooks and henley
got involved,
408
00:24:04,253 --> 00:24:07,655
the candy turned
to sex parties and weed.
409
00:24:09,192 --> 00:24:12,559
Brooks was a boy of about 12
410
00:24:12,628 --> 00:24:15,629
who started coming over
to the candy factory,
411
00:24:15,698 --> 00:24:20,033
and so had known the corlls
for a long time,
412
00:24:20,102 --> 00:24:21,769
and would hang out there
413
00:24:21,771 --> 00:24:25,906
because he had no father
to watch over him,
414
00:24:25,975 --> 00:24:30,010
and his mother
sort of was happy that
he had someplace to go.
415
00:24:30,913 --> 00:24:34,315
Brooks' father said,
416
00:24:34,317 --> 00:24:35,916
"dean's the first
grown man i know
417
00:24:35,918 --> 00:24:37,351
that hasn't made fun of you."
418
00:24:39,322 --> 00:24:42,856
corll had an apartment
at the yorktown apartments,
419
00:24:42,925 --> 00:24:45,659
which was a place where
a lot of young singles
420
00:24:45,661 --> 00:24:48,462
were starting to make their
first marks in business
421
00:24:48,531 --> 00:24:50,197
and economy, and in houston.
422
00:24:51,467 --> 00:24:55,736
And it was there that
he brought david brooks,
423
00:24:55,871 --> 00:25:00,074
who is this aesthetic-looking,
pimply-faced young man
424
00:25:00,076 --> 00:25:03,010
who a lot of kids made fun of
because of the way he looked.
425
00:25:03,012 --> 00:25:06,313
He had long blonde hair.
He wore thick aviator glasses.
426
00:25:08,084 --> 00:25:10,551
Dean had given him money
and he'd bought him a car.
427
00:25:10,686 --> 00:25:12,085
He had taken care of him
428
00:25:12,154 --> 00:25:15,221
in a way that
his own father had not.
429
00:25:15,258 --> 00:25:17,925
And brooks sort of
saw dean as a father figure.
430
00:25:19,762 --> 00:25:21,695
When dean asked brooks
to pull down his pants
431
00:25:21,697 --> 00:25:23,475
so he could give him what
texas law at the time
432
00:25:23,499 --> 00:25:26,033
described as oral sodomy,
433
00:25:26,168 --> 00:25:27,334
david did it.
434
00:25:29,572 --> 00:25:31,638
It wasn't that david was gay.
435
00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:33,641
David felt like that's
what he had to do
436
00:25:33,776 --> 00:25:37,044
to continue to keep
his father figure's affection.
437
00:25:39,148 --> 00:25:41,382
A few weeks after that happened,
438
00:25:41,517 --> 00:25:43,918
david goes up to the apartment
439
00:25:44,053 --> 00:25:46,253
and just assumed
he could walk in,
440
00:25:46,255 --> 00:25:48,389
and he saw dean having anal sex
441
00:25:48,391 --> 00:25:50,925
with two terrified
teenage boys on the bed.
442
00:25:52,094 --> 00:25:53,827
And dean said,
"get out of here."
443
00:25:54,964 --> 00:25:56,330
later, dean told david
444
00:25:56,465 --> 00:25:58,232
that he shot both of those boys
445
00:25:58,334 --> 00:25:59,867
and buried them in a boat shed.
446
00:26:03,405 --> 00:26:05,271
So he initially went to david
and said,
447
00:26:05,308 --> 00:26:07,007
"this is what i'm doing.
448
00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:08,942
If you will bring me boys,
449
00:26:08,945 --> 00:26:11,211
i will pay you $ 200 per boy."
450
00:26:14,083 --> 00:26:16,416
and he began to lure boys
into the van,
451
00:26:16,485 --> 00:26:18,619
saying, "hey, we've got
some marijuana,
452
00:26:18,754 --> 00:26:19,754
we have some beer."
453
00:26:22,425 --> 00:26:24,958
and then one of the boys
he lured into the van
454
00:26:24,961 --> 00:26:26,626
was elmer wayne henley,
455
00:26:26,662 --> 00:26:30,030
who came from a broken home
as did david.
456
00:26:30,099 --> 00:26:31,966
And elmer got involved,
457
00:26:32,101 --> 00:26:36,770
and he began to help recruit
other boys
458
00:26:36,806 --> 00:26:39,306
and brought them
into the van or the car
459
00:26:39,441 --> 00:26:41,108
and took them to one
of dean's apartments.
460
00:26:42,311 --> 00:26:45,312
Dean was so well-liked
by these kids,
461
00:26:45,447 --> 00:26:48,649
parents who got to know him,
that they invited him over.
462
00:26:49,785 --> 00:26:52,252
Henley's mom invited
dean over for dinner,
463
00:26:52,388 --> 00:26:55,389
and dean took the time
to fix her car.
464
00:26:55,458 --> 00:27:00,260
So she was very aware
that her son, wayne,
465
00:27:00,296 --> 00:27:02,262
was hanging out with dean corll,
466
00:27:02,298 --> 00:27:04,465
and it didn't bother
her whatsoever.
467
00:27:05,868 --> 00:27:10,871
In a way, you can understand
every 15 or 16 year old boy
468
00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:14,140
who's lonely,
who feels like an outcast,
469
00:27:14,176 --> 00:27:16,443
who's embraced by
this other kind of person.
470
00:27:17,212 --> 00:27:19,146
You can understand it,
471
00:27:19,215 --> 00:27:23,550
but you just never expect it
to go as far as it did.
472
00:27:37,733 --> 00:27:40,867
Narrator: dean corll
has been dead
for almost 50 years.
473
00:27:40,936 --> 00:27:43,670
But what he did
to 16-year-old malley winkle
474
00:27:43,673 --> 00:27:45,839
still haunts his brother, ben.
475
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:51,145
I mean, he was a good kid.
He was a good brother.
476
00:27:53,683 --> 00:27:55,282
I always wanted
to hang out with malley.
477
00:27:55,351 --> 00:27:56,784
I always wanted to be with him.
478
00:28:00,322 --> 00:28:02,489
We'd just run around,
do things that kids did.
479
00:28:05,528 --> 00:28:07,761
We slept in the same room
together, so, and...
480
00:28:07,896 --> 00:28:10,698
he took care of me
as best he could.
481
00:28:10,833 --> 00:28:12,978
Right? he tried to make sure
i didn't get in any trouble
482
00:28:13,002 --> 00:28:14,002
and stuff like that.
483
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:16,369
Kid: what's your name?
484
00:28:16,439 --> 00:28:19,173
- Malley winkle.
- Malley winkle?
485
00:28:19,975 --> 00:28:22,643
Uh, what's your city?
486
00:28:22,645 --> 00:28:23,944
Houston.
487
00:28:25,781 --> 00:28:28,515
Narrator: but, like many
of the other murdered boys,
488
00:28:28,517 --> 00:28:30,350
ben's family was broken.
489
00:28:32,121 --> 00:28:33,187
Winkle: when i was eight,
490
00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:36,290
my mom,
she actually lost everything.
491
00:28:37,693 --> 00:28:41,195
She was a single mom
working two of our ships.
492
00:28:41,197 --> 00:28:43,130
A lot of the time
we were there by ourselves.
493
00:28:44,066 --> 00:28:45,732
That was a big deal.
My mom would say,
494
00:28:45,735 --> 00:28:47,901
"malley, take ben with you
and take care of him."
495
00:28:50,106 --> 00:28:51,137
his dating.
496
00:28:51,173 --> 00:28:53,807
He was trying to date.
I always remember...
497
00:28:53,843 --> 00:28:55,342
the concept of
him trying to date,
498
00:28:55,411 --> 00:28:57,544
you know, 15, 16-year-old kid.
499
00:28:58,914 --> 00:29:00,680
I always wanted to be with him.
500
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:02,883
And as an eight-year
older brother,
501
00:29:03,018 --> 00:29:04,351
he never wanted me
to be with him.
502
00:29:07,423 --> 00:29:09,823
My mom, when she wasn't home,
503
00:29:09,859 --> 00:29:11,358
i wasn't home either.
504
00:29:13,095 --> 00:29:15,662
And she just couldn't
control me.
505
00:29:16,665 --> 00:29:18,632
She had placed me
into a boy's home
506
00:29:18,767 --> 00:29:20,701
called boy's harbor
in la porte, texas.
507
00:29:23,472 --> 00:29:25,705
And she tried to get malley
into the harbor as well.
508
00:29:25,741 --> 00:29:26,907
And he didn't get in.
509
00:29:27,042 --> 00:29:29,042
I don't know if it was
his age or what,
510
00:29:29,178 --> 00:29:30,544
uh, but he wasn't allowed in.
511
00:29:32,715 --> 00:29:34,982
He had come out on one
of the visiting sundays,
512
00:29:34,984 --> 00:29:37,050
and that's when
that picture was taken.
513
00:29:38,554 --> 00:29:40,687
And in the following year,
he was abducted.
514
00:29:42,858 --> 00:29:44,324
He was found in the boat shed.
515
00:29:48,597 --> 00:29:52,065
Obviously, later in life,
i learned the truth
516
00:29:52,134 --> 00:29:56,804
and, uh, it has been
very painful since then.
517
00:30:01,076 --> 00:30:03,944
Narrator: back in '73
when henley shot corll
518
00:30:04,013 --> 00:30:06,012
and the story
hit the newspapers,
519
00:30:06,048 --> 00:30:09,483
20-year old bernie milligan
could think of only one name.
520
00:30:10,719 --> 00:30:14,154
Milligan: frank aguirre was
one of the missing kids,
521
00:30:14,289 --> 00:30:17,491
and he and i had attended
hamilton junior high together.
522
00:30:17,626 --> 00:30:18,866
We had a lot of mutual friends.
523
00:30:20,963 --> 00:30:24,764
I had no idea who
the perpetrators were
524
00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:28,501
until i opened that newspaper
and saw their faces.
525
00:30:28,571 --> 00:30:31,338
Narrator: one of those faces
was dean corll.
526
00:30:33,509 --> 00:30:34,842
He and i had an encounter.
527
00:30:36,712 --> 00:30:38,045
Narrator:
three years earlier,
528
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,814
corll tried to lure bernie
into his car.
529
00:30:42,585 --> 00:30:46,053
Milligan: as i was walking,
corll approached me
530
00:30:46,188 --> 00:30:48,155
on the side with his lights off.
531
00:30:49,992 --> 00:30:52,259
He kept trying
to offer me a ride.
532
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:55,996
"hey, man, i'll drive you
wherever you want to go",
533
00:30:55,998 --> 00:30:58,064
and i'm trying to be very clear,
534
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,068
i'm not gonna take a ride
in anyone's car.
535
00:31:03,572 --> 00:31:05,939
And he finally said,
"hey, be a guy."
536
00:31:05,975 --> 00:31:08,809
that was the first strange
thing i heard out of him.
537
00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:11,745
And he got
a little more insistent,
538
00:31:11,747 --> 00:31:13,279
and i took off.
539
00:31:15,150 --> 00:31:17,084
thank goodness i was an athlete,
540
00:31:17,086 --> 00:31:19,453
because i was
making tracks, running.
541
00:31:21,423 --> 00:31:24,157
I would stop
and stand in an alley
542
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:27,094
'cause i could hear him
with those lights on,
driving around.
543
00:31:29,999 --> 00:31:32,966
And, uh, finally, i lost him.
544
00:31:36,505 --> 00:31:37,904
I told my mother about it.
545
00:31:37,973 --> 00:31:39,239
We didn't call the police
546
00:31:39,308 --> 00:31:41,574
'cause i didn't have
a description of the car.
547
00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:42,943
I focused on him.
548
00:31:46,715 --> 00:31:49,582
Narrator: bernie has
a second encounter with corll.
549
00:31:49,618 --> 00:31:52,786
This time,
corll brings his friends.
550
00:31:52,921 --> 00:31:55,389
Milligan: i turned around
and there was a car.
551
00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:57,057
There sat david brooks
552
00:31:57,192 --> 00:32:00,327
and elmer wayne henley
was in the back seat.
553
00:32:00,996 --> 00:32:02,062
And there was a driver,
554
00:32:02,131 --> 00:32:04,031
but i couldn't see the driver
from where i was.
555
00:32:05,634 --> 00:32:08,267
David brooks goes,
"hey, we're heading up
to sam rayburn.
556
00:32:08,304 --> 00:32:09,703
Would you like to go fishing?"
557
00:32:11,206 --> 00:32:13,940
and i noticed the driver
looked through,
558
00:32:13,943 --> 00:32:15,742
turned his head to the side,
559
00:32:15,877 --> 00:32:19,078
and uh, he recognized me.
560
00:32:19,114 --> 00:32:20,747
I didn't know dean corll's name.
561
00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:22,683
I only recognized him as the guy
562
00:32:22,818 --> 00:32:24,952
in september of 1969.
563
00:32:26,221 --> 00:32:30,023
And all he said was,
"we have to go right now,"
564
00:32:30,158 --> 00:32:32,392
and threw the car into drive.
565
00:32:34,830 --> 00:32:37,664
Narrator: once again,
bernie escaped carl's grasp.
566
00:32:38,767 --> 00:32:41,234
One month later, corll was dead,
567
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:43,637
shot by his buddy wayne henley.
568
00:32:47,276 --> 00:32:49,309
A few weeks after
the news broke,
569
00:32:49,311 --> 00:32:51,377
there were whispers
around the heights
570
00:32:51,413 --> 00:32:52,913
that both henley and brooks
571
00:32:52,915 --> 00:32:55,248
were trying to break free
from corll.
572
00:32:55,284 --> 00:32:58,651
Milligan: brooks was
terrified for his life.
573
00:32:58,721 --> 00:33:01,054
He had just got married
and he had a child.
574
00:33:01,123 --> 00:33:04,057
He was going to have
to break away
575
00:33:04,093 --> 00:33:05,692
from what was going on.
576
00:33:07,196 --> 00:33:10,196
The story i received
577
00:33:10,232 --> 00:33:13,867
is david would take
a couch or chair,
578
00:33:13,869 --> 00:33:15,735
and move it in front of
the door every night
579
00:33:15,738 --> 00:33:18,671
and sit with a shotgun...
580
00:33:18,741 --> 00:33:22,542
thinking that henley
and dean corll were
gonna break through the door
581
00:33:22,611 --> 00:33:24,611
and kill him
and bridget and the baby.
582
00:33:26,548 --> 00:33:29,349
He had apparently confessed
to his father.
583
00:33:29,351 --> 00:33:32,352
His father had informed david
that the supreme court
584
00:33:32,487 --> 00:33:35,822
was working on outlawing
the death penalty.
585
00:33:35,957 --> 00:33:37,490
Keep your mouth shut.
586
00:33:38,027 --> 00:33:39,492
This is what i was told.
587
00:33:39,561 --> 00:33:42,028
I did not hear it
from david brooks
588
00:33:42,097 --> 00:33:43,363
or even bridget myself.
589
00:33:43,432 --> 00:33:46,233
Narrator: henley also
feared for his life.
590
00:33:46,368 --> 00:33:49,769
Dean told him he belonged to
an organization out of dallas
591
00:33:49,838 --> 00:33:52,105
that bought and sold boys.
592
00:33:52,141 --> 00:33:53,172
Henley said,
593
00:33:53,208 --> 00:33:55,508
"dean told me his
organization would get me
594
00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:57,844
if i ever did anything to him.
595
00:33:57,979 --> 00:33:59,913
He said he tried
to tell his mother,
596
00:33:59,982 --> 00:34:02,249
but she just wouldn't
believe me."
597
00:34:02,384 --> 00:34:04,784
hollandsworth: the truth is
that mrs. henley needed money.
598
00:34:04,787 --> 00:34:05,885
She was divorced,
599
00:34:05,921 --> 00:34:08,001
and her husband wasn't
giving her much child support.
600
00:34:09,091 --> 00:34:12,192
And so wayne getting $200
601
00:34:12,194 --> 00:34:14,261
is a huge deal,
602
00:34:14,396 --> 00:34:17,998
even if it required him
to turn a boy in to be killed.
603
00:34:20,335 --> 00:34:26,139
If henley had not mentioned
the boat shed to the police,
604
00:34:26,275 --> 00:34:28,542
how are the police
gonna know about it?
605
00:34:28,677 --> 00:34:31,544
It just could have been
this one sort of crazed night
606
00:34:31,613 --> 00:34:34,947
of paint huffing
in a house in pasadena
607
00:34:34,983 --> 00:34:37,751
with dean corll
and three teenagers.
608
00:34:37,886 --> 00:34:39,552
And no one would have
made the connection
609
00:34:39,621 --> 00:34:41,154
to the other disappearing boys.
610
00:34:41,156 --> 00:34:43,089
No one had made
that connection yet.
611
00:34:43,125 --> 00:34:44,491
Why would they start now?
612
00:34:50,332 --> 00:34:51,932
I don't mean this
to sound crass.
613
00:34:51,934 --> 00:34:53,866
I mean, there's pedophilia,
614
00:34:53,902 --> 00:34:56,002
and then there's this stuff
that dean corll did.
615
00:34:57,272 --> 00:34:58,671
He would do this game with them
616
00:34:58,707 --> 00:35:00,540
where he would put handcuffs
on them and say,
617
00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:03,009
"let's see how quickly you can
get your handcuffs off."
618
00:35:04,279 --> 00:35:06,012
he would do
the handcuff game first,
619
00:35:06,048 --> 00:35:08,615
then he would
give the handcuffs
to the other boy.
620
00:35:08,684 --> 00:35:11,350
That boy could not get
the handcuffs off,
621
00:35:11,386 --> 00:35:13,186
and that's when it began.
622
00:35:14,423 --> 00:35:16,022
It's so hard to talk about,
623
00:35:16,158 --> 00:35:18,425
and i've covered
a lot of crimes.
624
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,894
When i realized that
this was going on
625
00:35:20,963 --> 00:35:25,532
in what is now this beautiful
yuppie neighborhood,
626
00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:27,434
that back then,
the kind of depravity
627
00:35:27,436 --> 00:35:29,703
that just
does not seem possible...
628
00:35:29,705 --> 00:35:31,838
it's still hard
for me to imagine.
629
00:35:34,076 --> 00:35:36,776
Of these 28 eight boys
who were killed
630
00:35:36,845 --> 00:35:39,045
in the most gruesome of fashion,
631
00:35:39,047 --> 00:35:41,581
at least 22 of them had grown up
632
00:35:41,583 --> 00:35:43,449
in a neighborhood
called the heights.
633
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:48,588
11 of those boys went to
the same junior high school.
634
00:35:48,624 --> 00:35:50,523
Newsreader: the houston
police department says
635
00:35:50,592 --> 00:35:52,592
it gets more than 5,000 reports
636
00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:54,394
of runaway children each year,
637
00:35:54,463 --> 00:35:56,796
and there is no way
to check them out thoroughly.
638
00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:58,632
They say there aren't
enough policemen.
639
00:36:00,469 --> 00:36:03,536
Narrator:
between 1971 and 1973,
640
00:36:03,572 --> 00:36:06,740
more than 400 kids
were reported missing
in the heights,
641
00:36:06,875 --> 00:36:09,876
an area two miles wide
and three miles deep.
642
00:36:09,945 --> 00:36:11,278
Smith:
it was a different time.
643
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,814
Kids hitchhiked all over.
644
00:36:14,816 --> 00:36:16,816
Some of these victims
were hitchhikers.
645
00:36:18,153 --> 00:36:21,288
You know, it was the age of
drugs, sex and rock and roll.
646
00:36:22,624 --> 00:36:24,557
Hollandsworth: it was
a strange time in america
647
00:36:24,626 --> 00:36:28,628
because there were a lot
of boys who did disappear.
648
00:36:28,664 --> 00:36:32,765
And there were, in truth,
some boys who ran away
649
00:36:32,801 --> 00:36:35,235
and some boys
who wanted to go see
650
00:36:35,304 --> 00:36:37,770
what the other part
of the world was like.
651
00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:41,040
Narrator: back then,
being a runaway
wasn't a crime
652
00:36:41,076 --> 00:36:44,177
nor a priority for the police.
653
00:36:44,179 --> 00:36:47,047
Runaways or missing persons
who were juveniles
654
00:36:47,182 --> 00:36:50,383
was handled by a division
called the juvenile division,
655
00:36:50,419 --> 00:36:52,118
which was separate
from homicide.
656
00:36:52,154 --> 00:36:53,719
They were on the fourth floor,
657
00:36:53,755 --> 00:36:56,122
we were on the third floor.
658
00:36:56,258 --> 00:36:58,258
Smith: offense reports
by patrol officers
659
00:36:58,393 --> 00:37:00,727
were frequently hand-written.
660
00:37:00,729 --> 00:37:03,129
In fact,
the juvenile division,
the way it was set up,
661
00:37:03,198 --> 00:37:06,333
we did all of our reporting
on manual typewriters.
662
00:37:06,335 --> 00:37:08,935
There was probably only two
or three electric typewriters
663
00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:11,004
in the whole division
for a hundred people.
664
00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:15,875
Narrator:
14-year-old jimmy glass,
one of the first victims,
665
00:37:16,011 --> 00:37:18,878
disappeared in december of 1970.
666
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,348
He was last seen
leaving a church service.
667
00:37:22,417 --> 00:37:25,418
Hollandsworth: jimmy glass
had run away from home before
668
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:27,087
for a very brief amount of time.
669
00:37:27,222 --> 00:37:29,956
But when the juvenile officer
for the houston
police department
670
00:37:30,025 --> 00:37:33,026
was assigned that case
and learned this,
671
00:37:33,095 --> 00:37:36,229
he shut the file, figuring
he'd just run away again.
672
00:37:36,231 --> 00:37:38,765
It happened over
and over and over.
673
00:37:39,568 --> 00:37:41,367
It was totally mishandled.
674
00:37:41,403 --> 00:37:44,970
And as that grief
began to pour out,
675
00:37:45,007 --> 00:37:47,773
there was a lot of anger
at the cops.
676
00:37:47,809 --> 00:37:49,576
We have
the statistical data on it,
677
00:37:49,578 --> 00:37:52,044
exactly how many
were reported missing,
678
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,780
and we see nothing
over that period of time
679
00:37:53,915 --> 00:37:55,195
that indicated a pattern at all.
680
00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:57,783
As a matter of fact,
we had a lot heavier incidents
681
00:37:57,819 --> 00:38:00,253
in some of the other districts.
682
00:38:00,255 --> 00:38:02,055
Hollandsworth:
herman short said,
683
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,057
"the problem here
is the parents.
684
00:38:04,192 --> 00:38:07,193
The parents need to keep
more control over their boys,
685
00:38:07,262 --> 00:38:09,795
otherwise these boys
would not have any problems."
686
00:38:09,831 --> 00:38:12,665
some of these parents
are not exactly
687
00:38:12,734 --> 00:38:14,801
uh, discharging their
own responsibility
688
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:17,536
so far as these runaways
are concerned,
689
00:38:17,572 --> 00:38:21,041
so far is raising
and disciplining
their children.
690
00:38:23,411 --> 00:38:26,612
Hollandsworth:
these parents would come
to the houston police and say,
691
00:38:26,648 --> 00:38:29,149
"my boy just doesn't
run away from home.
692
00:38:29,284 --> 00:38:33,219
He was packed and ready
to go on a family vacation
the next day.
693
00:38:33,221 --> 00:38:34,821
He's disappeared.
694
00:38:34,823 --> 00:38:36,823
Something horrible
has happened to him."
695
00:38:36,892 --> 00:38:38,691
and the houston police said,
696
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,962
"ma'am, there's just
a lot of runaways
in america at this time.
697
00:38:42,964 --> 00:38:44,364
This is the hippie era.
698
00:38:44,499 --> 00:38:45,598
They get disgruntled
699
00:38:45,634 --> 00:38:47,178
and they're told to run away
by their friends,
700
00:38:47,202 --> 00:38:49,035
and that's what they do.
701
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:52,104
Narrator: ben knows
his brother was no runaway.
702
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:53,440
Winkle: malley and david,
703
00:38:53,575 --> 00:38:55,608
they were just going
down there to go swimming.
704
00:38:56,545 --> 00:38:57,843
Do you run away
in your swimsuit?
705
00:38:57,879 --> 00:38:59,479
I mean, that doesn't
make any sense.
706
00:39:06,555 --> 00:39:08,120
Newsreader: under texas law,
707
00:39:08,156 --> 00:39:10,456
elmer wayne henry
faced a maximum sentence
708
00:39:10,525 --> 00:39:13,592
of life imprisonment
for each of the six murders.
709
00:39:13,628 --> 00:39:15,395
After less than
an hour's deliberation,
710
00:39:15,397 --> 00:39:17,463
they returned
the maximum penalty:
711
00:39:17,499 --> 00:39:20,933
six separate 99-year sentences.
712
00:39:20,969 --> 00:39:23,335
Narrator: nine months later,
david owen brooks
713
00:39:23,372 --> 00:39:25,405
was convicted of one murder:
714
00:39:25,474 --> 00:39:29,142
the strangulation
of 15-year-old
billy ray lawrence,
715
00:39:29,144 --> 00:39:30,877
and received a life sentence.
716
00:39:34,549 --> 00:39:37,817
With corll dead and his
two accomplices behind bars,
717
00:39:37,886 --> 00:39:41,554
the houston mass murders
faded from the headlines.
718
00:39:41,623 --> 00:39:43,757
America's fascination
with serial killers
719
00:39:43,892 --> 00:39:46,025
was still years in the future,
720
00:39:46,061 --> 00:39:50,630
but for many of the families,
the grief lasts a lifetime.
721
00:39:50,699 --> 00:39:52,966
Winkle: my mom,
it destroyed her.
722
00:39:54,035 --> 00:39:57,003
His murder overshadowed
most everything else.
723
00:39:58,607 --> 00:40:00,140
She made the ultimate sacrifice.
724
00:40:01,143 --> 00:40:03,176
She gave up one son
725
00:40:03,178 --> 00:40:05,512
by putting me in the harbor,
boy's harbor,
726
00:40:05,647 --> 00:40:07,213
and then she lost her other son.
727
00:40:09,451 --> 00:40:11,785
He was very innocent.
He was just an innocent kid.
728
00:40:12,654 --> 00:40:13,853
He never really had a chance.
729
00:40:25,266 --> 00:40:28,334
Narrator: unluckier still
are the families
of corll's victims
730
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:30,937
whose bodies
were never identified.
731
00:40:35,177 --> 00:40:37,277
Dr. sharon derrick
started a new job
732
00:40:37,412 --> 00:40:40,480
at the harris county
medical examiner's office
in houston.
733
00:40:41,883 --> 00:40:44,284
As she looked around
her new workplace,
734
00:40:44,286 --> 00:40:47,220
something old suddenly
became new again.
735
00:40:48,123 --> 00:40:50,423
Dr. derrick:
i saw these three boxes
736
00:40:50,459 --> 00:40:54,493
and each of them said
"houston mass murders"
on them.
737
00:40:54,563 --> 00:40:58,064
And i immediately clicked back
to when i was in high school.
738
00:40:59,701 --> 00:41:01,167
And i thought, "oh, my gosh,
739
00:41:01,302 --> 00:41:03,569
they have some of
the remains from that
740
00:41:03,605 --> 00:41:05,037
and they're not identified?"
741
00:41:05,073 --> 00:41:08,641
i was kind of star struck
at the three boxes,
742
00:41:08,776 --> 00:41:09,843
to tell you the truth.
743
00:41:11,346 --> 00:41:13,513
And so i asked the deputy chief
744
00:41:13,582 --> 00:41:15,381
may i be assigned these cases,
745
00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:16,849
and he said yes.
746
00:41:16,918 --> 00:41:18,851
it wasn't going to be easy.
747
00:41:18,854 --> 00:41:21,988
Those boxes contain
the forgotten bones and bits
748
00:41:22,123 --> 00:41:25,225
of the last nameless victims
of the candy man.
749
00:41:26,194 --> 00:41:27,927
It became a lot more than just
750
00:41:27,929 --> 00:41:30,329
putting the bones on the table
and sorting them out.
751
00:41:30,398 --> 00:41:33,533
You had to look back
into all of the old files
752
00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:35,001
that are still present.
753
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:36,736
There aren't very many.
754
00:41:36,738 --> 00:41:39,872
Narrator: since 2006,
with the help of dna,
755
00:41:39,908 --> 00:41:43,009
she's identified
five of those boys.
756
00:41:43,011 --> 00:41:44,677
One last boy remains.
757
00:41:45,914 --> 00:41:50,015
We need family who think
they might have had a victim
758
00:41:50,051 --> 00:41:54,754
of this terrible crime
submit dna.
759
00:41:54,756 --> 00:41:57,890
Narrator:
if the last nameless boy
wasn't from the heights,
760
00:41:57,926 --> 00:41:59,893
where did he come from?
761
00:41:59,994 --> 00:42:03,162
Boys were disappearing
across america,
762
00:42:03,164 --> 00:42:05,230
and a thousand miles away,
763
00:42:05,267 --> 00:42:09,368
a similar monster
had just begun operating
in plain sight.
764
00:42:09,404 --> 00:42:12,104
He just hadn't been caught yet.
765
00:42:12,173 --> 00:42:14,507
When john wayne gacy the clown
766
00:42:14,576 --> 00:42:16,910
began his rampage in chicago,
767
00:42:17,913 --> 00:42:19,445
and when it was
finally discovered
768
00:42:19,514 --> 00:42:22,482
that he had numerous boys
in the basement of his home,
769
00:42:23,384 --> 00:42:25,251
you had to wonder
770
00:42:25,386 --> 00:42:28,288
if gacy was nothing more
than a copycat of dean corll.
771
00:42:39,701 --> 00:42:45,405
Most of the the boys that gacy
killed were street kids,
772
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:50,609
runaways, people who have been
involved with the law.
773
00:42:50,645 --> 00:42:56,182
Gacy's problem came when
he picked a good kid to take.
774
00:42:59,721 --> 00:43:02,221
Narrator: it's two weeks
before christmas.
775
00:43:02,357 --> 00:43:04,824
The parents of 15-year-old
robert piest
776
00:43:04,893 --> 00:43:06,759
come into the
des plaines police station
777
00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:09,228
to report their son's
disappearance.
778
00:43:09,297 --> 00:43:13,566
It's only been a few hours,
but they're worried.
779
00:43:13,701 --> 00:43:17,036
The hippie era was ending.
780
00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:21,107
I mean, it was not uncommon
for kids to run away.
781
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:23,109
Tovar: maybe they're
out drinking.
782
00:43:23,178 --> 00:43:25,511
Maybe that young man got lucky
783
00:43:25,513 --> 00:43:29,315
with a young lady somewhere,
you know.
784
00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:33,586
It started off just as a simple
missing person's, you know?
785
00:43:33,721 --> 00:43:36,322
It wasn't a big deal
at the time.
786
00:43:36,324 --> 00:43:38,791
Narrator: rob piest worked
part-time as a stock boy
787
00:43:38,827 --> 00:43:41,394
at nisson pharmacy
in des plaines.
788
00:43:41,463 --> 00:43:45,264
He worked the day shift and was
wrapping up for the evening.
789
00:43:45,266 --> 00:43:48,400
His mom had come to pick him up.
790
00:43:48,436 --> 00:43:50,803
Albrecht: actually, that was
his mother's birthday,
791
00:43:50,938 --> 00:43:55,541
and they're gonna do
their birthday celebration.
792
00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:58,010
Sullivan: at closing time,
he just told her,
793
00:43:58,046 --> 00:44:01,414
"mom, i'm gonna talk
to this guy about a job."
794
00:44:01,416 --> 00:44:03,549
he'd be right back.
795
00:44:03,618 --> 00:44:05,551
And he never came back.
796
00:44:05,553 --> 00:44:07,820
Narrator:
the piest family is adamant
797
00:44:07,889 --> 00:44:09,822
rob wouldn't leave
his mom waiting,
798
00:44:09,824 --> 00:44:11,824
especially on her birthday.
799
00:44:11,893 --> 00:44:13,892
Sullivan: they knew
that there was a man
800
00:44:13,928 --> 00:44:16,962
by the name of john gacy
who rob had talked to,
801
00:44:16,998 --> 00:44:18,631
but they couldn't find him
802
00:44:18,633 --> 00:44:21,234
or couldn't find
anything about him.
803
00:44:21,369 --> 00:44:22,713
Albrecht: and the officer
that handled it,
804
00:44:22,737 --> 00:44:25,171
he took the report
and made a point
805
00:44:25,173 --> 00:44:28,241
of talking
to the juvenile division.
806
00:44:28,243 --> 00:44:29,575
And a lot of times
what happened, these kids
807
00:44:29,577 --> 00:44:32,177
weren't entered into the
computer as missings right away.
808
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:36,982
But he felt there was something
different about this case.
809
00:44:37,018 --> 00:44:40,019
Narrator: still, the piests
are told nothing can be done
810
00:44:40,021 --> 00:44:41,387
until the morning.
811
00:44:41,522 --> 00:44:45,591
A missing-person report normally
carries a 24-hour waiting period
812
00:44:45,593 --> 00:44:48,528
before the police investigate.
813
00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:51,464
The parents were out all night
looking for anything
814
00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:52,865
that they possibly could,
815
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,003
all the way from the priest
at the greek church
816
00:44:57,138 --> 00:45:00,472
to christmas-tree lots
817
00:45:00,508 --> 00:45:05,111
to everything to try to find
anybody who knew about it.
818
00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:08,614
Narrator: the next morning,
819
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:11,217
rob's parents are back
at the police station
820
00:45:11,286 --> 00:45:14,620
looking for an update...
Anything.
821
00:45:14,756 --> 00:45:17,824
Here's a young man
who all of a sudden disappears,
822
00:45:17,959 --> 00:45:21,627
and it's his mother's birthday.
823
00:45:21,629 --> 00:45:26,298
He was not a problem in school,
a good student.
824
00:45:26,367 --> 00:45:27,767
Tovar: you know, in my job,
825
00:45:27,836 --> 00:45:30,436
i've seen many, many
dysfunctional families.
826
00:45:30,505 --> 00:45:33,239
This was not one of them.
This was a good family.
827
00:45:33,308 --> 00:45:35,440
All seemed to care
about each other.
828
00:45:35,477 --> 00:45:37,777
It just didn't fit.
829
00:45:37,779 --> 00:45:39,779
I did a criminal-history check
on all the people
830
00:45:39,848 --> 00:45:42,715
that were listed in the report.
831
00:45:42,717 --> 00:45:46,452
A man called john wayne gacy
had been in the drugstore
832
00:45:46,521 --> 00:45:48,587
that night before.
833
00:45:48,656 --> 00:45:51,257
We learned that he was
a contractor.
834
00:45:51,259 --> 00:45:57,129
He was doing some estimating
or talking to the owner.
835
00:45:57,198 --> 00:46:01,400
He was an ex-con out of iowa,
and he had a criminal history
836
00:46:01,402 --> 00:46:03,468
which involved
sodomy of a child.
837
00:46:05,206 --> 00:46:11,744
sullivan: gacy was convicted of
having two boys in his house.
838
00:46:11,879 --> 00:46:17,283
Handcuffed them to one of
the big legs of the pool table,
839
00:46:17,352 --> 00:46:19,819
and that's where
he sodomized them.
840
00:46:19,821 --> 00:46:21,954
Narrator: gacy received
a 10-year sentence,
841
00:46:21,956 --> 00:46:24,490
but served only 18 months.
842
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,226
There was no sex registry
in 1970,
843
00:46:27,262 --> 00:46:30,496
so the conviction didn't
follow him to chicago.
844
00:46:30,565 --> 00:46:32,365
Kozenczak:
and when we heard that,
845
00:46:32,367 --> 00:46:34,900
the hair literally stood up
on the back of our necks.
846
00:46:34,969 --> 00:46:38,971
This must be something
a little more serious
847
00:46:39,106 --> 00:46:41,407
than what we're
thinking about here.
848
00:46:44,045 --> 00:46:48,581
And that's what prompted us
to go to gacy's house
849
00:46:48,716 --> 00:46:52,251
and confront him one-on-one.
850
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,454
So he opened the door.
He was not very clean.
851
00:46:55,523 --> 00:46:57,990
He wasn't a clean person.
He was unshaven.
852
00:46:57,992 --> 00:47:00,092
His clothes were dirty.
853
00:47:10,071 --> 00:47:14,006
He started to tell me that
his mother had just called him.
854
00:47:14,075 --> 00:47:15,407
His uncle had died,
855
00:47:15,476 --> 00:47:18,010
and he was helping his mother
with funeral arrangements.
856
00:47:23,551 --> 00:47:26,418
Once he found out we did not
have a search warrant,
857
00:47:26,487 --> 00:47:29,088
he got real belligerent.
858
00:47:29,090 --> 00:47:31,958
So when we walked outside,
we all agreed that this guy
859
00:47:32,093 --> 00:47:34,594
knew more than
what he was telling us.
860
00:47:37,465 --> 00:47:38,831
Narrator: gacy's behavior,
861
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:41,233
coupled with his
sodomy conviction in iowa,
862
00:47:41,236 --> 00:47:43,035
strikes an ominous note,
863
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:44,903
and it's enough
to convince a judge
864
00:47:44,939 --> 00:47:48,307
to agree to a search warrant
for gacy's house.
865
00:47:48,376 --> 00:47:51,911
Sullivan: i wanted to see if the
police officers could find
866
00:47:51,913 --> 00:47:55,915
anything that would show
that there was a body there,
867
00:47:55,984 --> 00:47:59,051
to show that there was
a live body, hopefully,
868
00:47:59,087 --> 00:48:02,255
and someone who was
being held against his will.
869
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:06,058
Tovar: from the time we went in,
we could tell that
870
00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:07,994
he was marching
to a different drummer
871
00:48:08,129 --> 00:48:11,130
because the paint job,
for example.
872
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,866
The hall was painted brown
and then had, like,
873
00:48:14,001 --> 00:48:17,803
zigzag gold lines
going up and down through it.
874
00:48:17,805 --> 00:48:21,741
I mean, it was really weird.
875
00:48:21,876 --> 00:48:25,011
Clown pictures were everywhere.
He had one right over his bed.
876
00:48:25,013 --> 00:48:31,684
♪♪
877
00:48:31,686 --> 00:48:34,553
And then he had junk
stacked everywhere.
878
00:48:34,589 --> 00:48:39,224
Narrator: they searched the
house top to bottom.
879
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:43,762
Tovar: we found sex books,
sex toys.
880
00:48:43,798 --> 00:48:45,297
We found a board.
881
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,500
It's a 2x4 with holes
at the end of it,
882
00:48:47,635 --> 00:48:49,568
which could be used
like old-fashioned stocks
883
00:48:49,570 --> 00:48:51,503
where they used to butcher.
884
00:48:51,539 --> 00:48:54,106
So it was some strange stuff.
885
00:48:54,108 --> 00:48:56,375
Narrator: in a closet
off the front room,
886
00:48:56,444 --> 00:48:59,779
they found a trap door
leading to a crawl space.
887
00:48:59,914 --> 00:49:02,047
The place was
a dirty, stinky place.
888
00:49:02,083 --> 00:49:05,451
The water tank was very high
in that neighborhood there,
889
00:49:05,453 --> 00:49:11,323
so the sump pump was constantly
going and the earth was muddy.
890
00:49:11,392 --> 00:49:13,392
So we were looking
for a mound of dirt, maybe,
891
00:49:13,527 --> 00:49:16,262
if he had buried
someone down there.
892
00:49:16,264 --> 00:49:19,065
Narrator:
but they find nothing.
893
00:49:19,067 --> 00:49:22,535
However, other items scattered
around the house raise questions
894
00:49:22,537 --> 00:49:25,003
about the suburban contractor...
895
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:28,273
A photo receipt
from nisson pharmacy,
896
00:49:28,343 --> 00:49:29,808
handcuffs,
897
00:49:29,844 --> 00:49:31,677
various sets of car keys,
898
00:49:31,812 --> 00:49:35,147
and a lot of police badges.
899
00:49:35,282 --> 00:49:39,018
Kozenczak: and we found various
jewelry and id cards
900
00:49:39,153 --> 00:49:42,554
and driver's licenses
that didn't belong to gacy.
901
00:49:42,623 --> 00:49:45,291
Narrator: the rob piest case
was taking a bigger
902
00:49:45,426 --> 00:49:47,692
and disturbing turn.
903
00:49:47,729 --> 00:49:52,031
That was the start of realizing
that we were on to something,
904
00:49:52,033 --> 00:49:54,600
a heck of a lot more than
the disappearance of one kid.
905
00:49:56,504 --> 00:49:57,870
♪♪
906
00:49:59,540 --> 00:50:02,941
narrator: jewelry,
high-school rings, id bracelets,
907
00:50:03,011 --> 00:50:06,145
driver's licenses,
and dozens of police badges,
908
00:50:06,147 --> 00:50:08,614
all found in contractor
john gacy's home,
909
00:50:08,749 --> 00:50:10,883
none of it belonging to him,
910
00:50:11,018 --> 00:50:14,687
and no sign of the
missing teen rob piest.
911
00:50:14,689 --> 00:50:18,090
Sullivan: we truly had hoped
that he was alive
912
00:50:18,225 --> 00:50:22,762
and that we might find him
bound up in gacy's house.
913
00:50:22,897 --> 00:50:25,163
Narrator:
detectives widen their search.
914
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:26,498
They start by going back
915
00:50:26,534 --> 00:50:28,467
and talking to everyone
in the pharmacy
916
00:50:28,503 --> 00:50:30,702
the night rob disappeared.
917
00:50:30,772 --> 00:50:34,573
We knew from talking to people
that he had gone out
918
00:50:34,575 --> 00:50:38,844
with john wayne gacy
to get an application for a job.
919
00:50:38,846 --> 00:50:41,647
John wayne gacy had been
in the modeling company
920
00:50:41,649 --> 00:50:46,518
called p.d.m. painting,
decorating, and maintenance.
921
00:50:46,554 --> 00:50:50,322
Albrecht: he was offering him
a summer job for $7.50 an hour.
922
00:50:50,324 --> 00:50:52,057
So a 15-year-old kid,
923
00:50:52,060 --> 00:50:56,595
and he was all anxious about
turning 16 and buying a car.
924
00:50:56,597 --> 00:50:58,197
Tovar: this young girl kim,
925
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,599
she was working the counter
up near the front door.
926
00:51:00,668 --> 00:51:03,536
She was cold, and she borrowed
robert's jacket.
927
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:05,938
It was a nice, blue,
down jacket.
928
00:51:06,007 --> 00:51:09,408
Sullivan: when he was
going out to see gacy,
929
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:12,812
he said, "kim,
let me get my jacket back."
930
00:51:12,947 --> 00:51:14,880
tovar: he told her,
"i'm going with this guy
931
00:51:14,882 --> 00:51:16,649
to fill out an application."
932
00:51:18,686 --> 00:51:21,554
a lot of these people
actually didn't notice
933
00:51:21,556 --> 00:51:23,689
anything suspicious.
934
00:51:23,691 --> 00:51:25,558
Sullivan: there was
absolutely no reason
935
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,893
to think that he
wouldn't have come home.
936
00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:32,097
♪♪
937
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,966
Narrator: despite gacy's
sodomy conviction in iowa,
938
00:51:35,002 --> 00:51:37,503
the 36-year-old
suburban contractor
939
00:51:37,638 --> 00:51:41,173
appears to be a likable,
hardworking businessman.
940
00:51:41,175 --> 00:51:45,811
The neighbors loved him.
His associates loved him.
941
00:51:48,449 --> 00:51:50,649
Albrecht:
gacy would have parties
942
00:51:50,651 --> 00:51:54,253
around july 4th every year,
and people that attended them
943
00:51:54,255 --> 00:51:56,788
was the who's who
of chicago politics.
944
00:51:56,858 --> 00:51:58,657
Narrator:
he was a parade organizer
945
00:51:58,726 --> 00:52:00,325
for the mayor of chicago
946
00:52:00,361 --> 00:52:02,595
and a democratic
precinct captain.
947
00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:05,231
He seemed a model citizen.
948
00:52:15,476 --> 00:52:17,342
He was very active in business
949
00:52:17,411 --> 00:52:19,878
and very active with politics.
950
00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:21,614
Sullivan:
at one particular time,
951
00:52:21,616 --> 00:52:22,882
there's a polish day parade.
952
00:52:23,017 --> 00:52:26,484
The first lady of the
united states, rosalynn carter,
953
00:52:26,521 --> 00:52:28,220
was in for the parade,
954
00:52:28,256 --> 00:52:31,690
and he actually got up
on the stage with her
955
00:52:31,825 --> 00:52:34,293
and even had his picture
taken with her.
956
00:52:34,362 --> 00:52:37,163
♪♪
957
00:52:37,298 --> 00:52:40,966
He was a certified clown
958
00:52:41,035 --> 00:52:42,968
that would volunteer his time
959
00:52:43,037 --> 00:52:46,238
to go to hospitals
and entertain children.
960
00:52:46,373 --> 00:52:48,907
Narrator: he calls himself
pogo the clown,
961
00:52:48,943 --> 00:52:51,177
and he took it seriously.
962
00:53:09,196 --> 00:53:12,931
However, a dig into gacy's past
paints a different picture
963
00:53:12,967 --> 00:53:16,135
than the model citizen
in chicago.
964
00:53:16,270 --> 00:53:19,070
Tovar: well, we interviewed
people in springfield, iowa,
965
00:53:19,106 --> 00:53:21,740
also, where he had lived.
966
00:53:21,776 --> 00:53:23,875
He did not graduate
from high school.
967
00:53:23,911 --> 00:53:27,546
He went out to las vegas
to work,
968
00:53:27,548 --> 00:53:29,726
and while he was there, he
worked for an ambulance company.
969
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:32,884
His job was picking up
deceased remains
970
00:53:32,954 --> 00:53:34,687
and delivering them to either
971
00:53:34,822 --> 00:53:37,323
funeral homes of choice
or whatever.
972
00:53:39,961 --> 00:53:41,894
Well, they started finding
some disturbing things
973
00:53:42,029 --> 00:53:46,765
as that he was messing
with the bodies.
974
00:53:46,767 --> 00:53:49,968
He was necrophiliac, and he was
having sex with the bodies
975
00:53:50,037 --> 00:53:53,105
at night in the funeral home.
976
00:53:53,241 --> 00:53:55,841
They discovered that because
they found the clothing
977
00:53:55,910 --> 00:53:58,777
on the bodies messed up and they
approached him about it,
978
00:53:58,846 --> 00:54:02,447
and i guess he confessed to it,
so they fired him.
979
00:54:02,483 --> 00:54:05,650
Narrator: gacy was married twice
and divorced twice.
980
00:54:05,686 --> 00:54:08,720
He has two kids from
the first marriage in iowa
981
00:54:08,756 --> 00:54:10,389
and lives alone.
982
00:54:13,794 --> 00:54:15,861
Back at the
des plaines police station,
983
00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:19,865
detectives sift through the
items taken from gacy's house.
984
00:54:19,867 --> 00:54:23,401
A high-school ring with
three initials, j.a.s.,
985
00:54:23,437 --> 00:54:25,670
gets their attention.
986
00:54:25,706 --> 00:54:29,207
We were working on the
rob piest disappearance.
987
00:54:29,277 --> 00:54:32,477
And then all of a sudden,
as you can imagine,
988
00:54:32,513 --> 00:54:34,813
finding something like
a class ring
989
00:54:34,882 --> 00:54:37,148
that had initials on it.
990
00:54:37,184 --> 00:54:39,351
Tovar: we learned that
ultimately turned out
991
00:54:39,420 --> 00:54:41,353
to belong to john szyc.
992
00:54:41,422 --> 00:54:44,690
Narrator: 19-year-old john szyc
was from des plaines
993
00:54:44,692 --> 00:54:45,891
but was living in chicago
994
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,362
when he went missing a year
earlier in january 1977.
995
00:54:50,398 --> 00:54:52,898
Tovar: we spoke to his mother,
and she told us
996
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,366
he had been missing
997
00:54:54,501 --> 00:54:58,103
and that his car was missing
as well as a television.
998
00:54:58,238 --> 00:55:01,106
We had seen a television
that kind of, maybe matched
999
00:55:01,108 --> 00:55:02,775
in the house.
1000
00:55:02,910 --> 00:55:04,909
We started digging
for information
1001
00:55:04,945 --> 00:55:07,513
on other missing kids.
1002
00:55:07,515 --> 00:55:11,317
We found a list of employees,
and we started checking on them,
1003
00:55:11,452 --> 00:55:15,520
started finding out that a lot
of those were also missing.
1004
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:18,523
Sullivan: how many other kids
had he offered the same deal
1005
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,526
as he was doing with piest?
1006
00:55:20,661 --> 00:55:23,495
In other words, "come with me
1007
00:55:23,531 --> 00:55:26,698
and i'll double whatever
you're making right now."
1008
00:55:26,734 --> 00:55:29,467
Gacy's name comes up more than half a dozen times
1009
00:55:29,503 --> 00:55:31,469
in chicago police reports,
1010
00:55:31,472 --> 00:55:34,673
ranging from kidnapping
to rape and assault.
1011
00:55:34,808 --> 00:55:37,009
Chicago police did investigate,
1012
00:55:37,011 --> 00:55:40,278
but nothing came
of any one of them.
1013
00:55:40,314 --> 00:55:42,481
Hachmeister: it was at
that point, really,
1014
00:55:42,550 --> 00:55:44,283
turned everything upside down.
1015
00:55:44,418 --> 00:55:47,285
He was no longer, in my opinion,
a person of interest.
1016
00:55:47,355 --> 00:55:49,188
He was definitely a suspect.
1017
00:55:52,292 --> 00:55:54,893
Rob piest has been missing
for four days,
1018
00:55:54,962 --> 00:55:56,962
and all eyes are on gacy,
1019
00:55:57,097 --> 00:55:59,832
but the police need
more evidence.
1020
00:55:59,834 --> 00:56:02,434
They put him on
round-the-clock surveillance.
1021
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:04,903
I was hoping that if, in fact,
1022
00:56:04,972 --> 00:56:07,172
he had done something
with rob piest,
1023
00:56:07,174 --> 00:56:10,776
that he would lead us there.
1024
00:56:10,778 --> 00:56:13,846
This is the four of us that were
on the surveillance.
1025
00:56:13,848 --> 00:56:16,048
Bob and ron
had the noon to midnight,
1026
00:56:16,183 --> 00:56:19,518
and dave i had
the midnight to noon.
1027
00:56:19,653 --> 00:56:22,521
Hachmeister: our goal as a
surveillance unit was to,
1028
00:56:22,523 --> 00:56:25,858
no matter what, keep him in view
1029
00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:30,128
so that if there's any evidence
to be out there through gacy,
1030
00:56:30,197 --> 00:56:33,932
he would not be able to destroy
any of the evidence.
1031
00:56:34,067 --> 00:56:36,201
Surveillance work can be boring
at certain times,
1032
00:56:36,237 --> 00:56:37,914
although i kind of
had the personality for it.
1033
00:56:37,938 --> 00:56:39,649
I could sit and, you know,
i had a lot of patience
1034
00:56:39,673 --> 00:56:42,808
for something like that
for one reason or another.
1035
00:56:42,877 --> 00:56:47,479
That first night, i sat
by myself for quite a while.
1036
00:56:47,481 --> 00:56:50,148
This was an extremely cold day.
We're in december.
1037
00:56:50,151 --> 00:56:54,219
It was so cold that i had to
keep my car running.
1038
00:56:54,354 --> 00:56:57,355
When he came home, he could see
the exhaust from my car
1039
00:56:57,425 --> 00:57:00,158
billowing up from the car,
1040
00:57:00,227 --> 00:57:03,429
so as he drove by, he knew
that we had interest in him.
1041
00:57:03,564 --> 00:57:06,098
He spotted the car,
and the first thing he did
1042
00:57:06,233 --> 00:57:08,233
was wave to me as he drove by.
1043
00:57:08,368 --> 00:57:10,502
So he knew right away
that we were following him,
1044
00:57:10,538 --> 00:57:12,604
and we just had to
make the best of it.
1045
00:57:15,209 --> 00:57:17,442
You'd think this guy
is like a bad guy,
1046
00:57:17,478 --> 00:57:20,379
he's really gonna be
a tough guy to deal with,
1047
00:57:20,514 --> 00:57:21,780
but he was just the opposite.
1048
00:57:21,849 --> 00:57:25,651
I mean, he welcomed us
when we followed him into bars.
1049
00:57:25,653 --> 00:57:28,120
He would buy us beers.
1050
00:57:28,255 --> 00:57:29,988
Afterwards, we would go
to restaurants,
1051
00:57:30,123 --> 00:57:31,790
he would invite us to his table.
1052
00:57:31,792 --> 00:57:34,326
We'd have breakfast with him.
1053
00:57:34,427 --> 00:57:36,194
He seemed like a great guy.
1054
00:57:36,197 --> 00:57:38,397
He seemed to be very
concerned about rob piest,
1055
00:57:38,499 --> 00:57:41,533
saying he would do anything
to help us out.
1056
00:57:41,602 --> 00:57:46,938
Lie-detector tests, do anything.
He was very, very concerned.
1057
00:57:46,974 --> 00:57:48,740
And, matter of fact,
my partner and i
1058
00:57:48,809 --> 00:57:52,077
would have to occasionally
remind each other,
1059
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,847
"hey, we've got to be
really on our toes here."
1060
00:58:06,594 --> 00:58:11,630
♪♪
1061
00:58:11,765 --> 00:58:13,632
There was one time
that we were following gacy,
1062
00:58:13,767 --> 00:58:15,967
about 2:00 or 3:00
in the morning,
1063
00:58:16,036 --> 00:58:19,437
he was checking on a job site.
1064
00:58:19,507 --> 00:58:23,441
On his way home, he was going
through gay neighborhood,
1065
00:58:23,511 --> 00:58:27,513
and he happened to spot some guy
walking down the street.
1066
00:58:27,648 --> 00:58:31,249
He just about turned his head
totally around
1067
00:58:31,285 --> 00:58:32,918
looking at this young man.
1068
00:58:32,987 --> 00:58:35,987
You could tell that he was
really wanting to do something,
1069
00:58:36,056 --> 00:58:41,059
but he couldn't do anything
because we were so close to him.
1070
00:58:41,128 --> 00:58:43,061
He never talked to us
about being gay.
1071
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:45,463
I mean, he would always actually
kind of go overboard
1072
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:47,398
about saying,
"wow, did you see that woman?
1073
00:58:47,434 --> 00:58:48,711
What a good-looking woman,"
you know,
1074
00:58:48,735 --> 00:58:50,669
and he would kind of
go out of his way to mention
1075
00:58:50,671 --> 00:58:55,607
to us to make us think that he
was straight as an arrow.
1076
00:58:55,676 --> 00:58:57,275
Narrator: his bluster extends
1077
00:58:57,311 --> 00:59:01,346
to the perks
of working as pogo the clown.
1078
00:59:01,348 --> 00:59:04,683
Albrecht: gacy, the cocky
bragger that he was,
1079
00:59:04,752 --> 00:59:06,352
he looked at us and said,
"you know what?
1080
00:59:06,486 --> 00:59:08,153
You could sit on
a woman's lap, you know,
1081
00:59:08,155 --> 00:59:11,022
and you could sit there and talk
to them and feel them up
1082
00:59:11,058 --> 00:59:12,424
or whatever you want to do,
1083
00:59:12,426 --> 00:59:13,958
and clowns do
get away with that."
1084
00:59:13,994 --> 00:59:15,405
and he said, you know...
He looked at us
1085
00:59:15,429 --> 00:59:17,296
and he said,
"you know, clowns...
1086
00:59:17,431 --> 00:59:19,398
Clowns can
get away with murder."
1087
00:59:25,806 --> 00:59:27,772
♪♪
1088
00:59:27,808 --> 00:59:30,842
Narrator: it's been five days
since rob piest disappeared
1089
00:59:30,978 --> 00:59:34,179
and des plaines detectives
lean on gacy's employees,
1090
00:59:34,314 --> 00:59:37,849
hoping they'll provide some clue
about the teen's whereabouts.
1091
00:59:37,851 --> 00:59:40,118
Hachmeister: he had two
really loyal followers
1092
00:59:40,187 --> 00:59:43,588
who worked for him,
michael rossi and david cram.
1093
00:59:43,591 --> 00:59:47,526
Narrator: the young men had been
working for gacy for two years.
1094
00:59:47,661 --> 00:59:50,528
Sullivan: one was more
cooperative than the other.
1095
00:59:50,598 --> 00:59:53,932
I wouldn't say that either
of them were real cooperative.
1096
00:59:54,034 --> 00:59:58,536
Kozenczak: i think he saw gacy
was in trouble,
1097
00:59:58,606 --> 01:00:04,409
and he didn't want to be brought
into it any more than he had to.
1098
01:00:04,478 --> 01:00:08,546
And he started giving us
information about employees
1099
01:00:08,616 --> 01:00:10,616
who come to work one day
1100
01:00:10,751 --> 01:00:12,918
and then the next day
they were just gone.
1101
01:00:14,955 --> 01:00:17,155
Narrator: rossi mentions
one kid in particular
1102
01:00:17,191 --> 01:00:19,357
who worked for gacy
two years earlier,
1103
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,560
who never showed up
for work one day
1104
01:00:21,695 --> 01:00:24,696
and never picked up
his last paycheck.
1105
01:00:24,765 --> 01:00:26,565
Gregory godzik was 17
1106
01:00:26,567 --> 01:00:32,503
when he took a part-time job
at p.d.m. construction in 1976.
1107
01:00:32,539 --> 01:00:36,174
I remember the day when he
came home and he said to my mom,
1108
01:00:36,243 --> 01:00:39,778
"you know, i met this man,
and he's offering me a new job."
1109
01:00:39,847 --> 01:00:42,614
and my mother said,
"oh, my god, what kind of job?
1110
01:00:42,683 --> 01:00:45,583
Finish school
so you can go to college.
1111
01:00:45,619 --> 01:00:50,989
And at the time, he was making
$2.25 an hour, and he said,
1112
01:00:51,058 --> 01:00:55,193
"mom, this man's offering me
$5 an hour."
1113
01:00:55,328 --> 01:00:58,530
and my mother said,
"i don't want you to do that."
1114
01:00:58,665 --> 01:01:01,266
of course, every 17-year-old,
1115
01:01:01,335 --> 01:01:03,179
you know, they're gonna do
what they're gonna do.
1116
01:01:03,203 --> 01:01:06,537
And i remember
a couple days later he said,
1117
01:01:06,573 --> 01:01:10,475
"mom, i got this job from that
man i was telling you about."
1118
01:01:10,544 --> 01:01:14,880
narrator: three weeks later,
gregory disappeared.
1119
01:01:17,384 --> 01:01:19,951
godzik: he was going out on a
date with a new girlfriend
1120
01:01:20,020 --> 01:01:21,152
or somebody.
1121
01:01:21,221 --> 01:01:23,488
The next morning,
my mother said,
1122
01:01:23,623 --> 01:01:27,025
"did you see your brother?"
and i said, "no, why?"
1123
01:01:27,027 --> 01:01:29,561
because every time my brother
would come home,
1124
01:01:29,563 --> 01:01:32,431
he'd always, "mom, i'm home,"
or give her a kiss.
1125
01:01:32,566 --> 01:01:34,232
And she said,
"he didn't come in."
1126
01:01:34,301 --> 01:01:37,102
and i said, "that's odd."
1127
01:01:37,237 --> 01:01:39,904
and then it was like
two days after that,
1128
01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:45,376
they found my brother's car in a
parking lot, and in the car,
1129
01:01:45,412 --> 01:01:49,181
there was his driver's license
and his wallet and...
1130
01:01:49,183 --> 01:01:51,449
and even my mother said,
you know,
1131
01:01:51,452 --> 01:01:56,320
"why would he leave his car?
It was a prized possession."
1132
01:01:56,390 --> 01:02:00,324
my mother went
to gacy's house that week.
1133
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,928
She said, "well, he should know
1134
01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:05,597
if he was
supposed to be working."
1135
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:09,667
and he said, "oh, yeah,
i saw him a while ago,
1136
01:02:09,703 --> 01:02:12,938
but, oh, yeah, he left a message
on my machine."
1137
01:02:12,940 --> 01:02:14,884
my mother said, "oh, well,
let's hear the machine."
1138
01:02:14,908 --> 01:02:17,943
he goes, "oh, i erased that."
1139
01:02:18,078 --> 01:02:20,011
and he said, "oh, 17-year-olds,
1140
01:02:20,013 --> 01:02:22,680
they run away, but they'll
be back," you know.
1141
01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:25,083
My mother said,
"nope, that's not my son.
1142
01:02:25,152 --> 01:02:27,552
My son would never do
anything like that."
1143
01:02:27,687 --> 01:02:30,087
but you have your hands tied.
1144
01:02:30,124 --> 01:02:31,934
What are you gonna do?
You only can do so much.
1145
01:02:31,958 --> 01:02:34,826
You hire a private investigator,
you go to the police.
1146
01:02:34,828 --> 01:02:37,228
They don't... you know,
"we have other things."
1147
01:02:37,331 --> 01:02:39,163
you know, "we're doing
the best we can."
1148
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:43,167
and you just live with it.
1149
01:02:43,203 --> 01:02:47,038
Narrator: three teens...
Rob piest, gregory godzik,
1150
01:02:47,174 --> 01:02:49,908
and the owner of the ring
found in gacy's house,
1151
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:52,043
17-year-old john szyc...
1152
01:02:52,112 --> 01:02:55,680
All missing,
all tied to john gacy.
1153
01:02:58,852 --> 01:03:03,054
Then an item, a slip of paper
found in gacy's trash,
1154
01:03:03,090 --> 01:03:07,525
becomes a turning point
in the search for rob piest.
1155
01:03:07,594 --> 01:03:10,728
Hachmeister: we recovered a
photo receipt
1156
01:03:10,798 --> 01:03:14,599
from nisson pharmacy,
and it only had numbers on it,
1157
01:03:14,668 --> 01:03:16,400
so you didn't know
who it was issued to.
1158
01:03:16,436 --> 01:03:19,537
This receipt,
and the film finally came back,
1159
01:03:19,606 --> 01:03:22,874
and the numbers corresponded
to kim byers,
1160
01:03:22,876 --> 01:03:29,014
who was an employee with
rob piest at nisson pharmacy.
1161
01:03:29,016 --> 01:03:33,285
Sullivan: she put that receipt
in rob's pocket,
1162
01:03:33,287 --> 01:03:36,354
and then rob came
and got the check.
1163
01:03:36,423 --> 01:03:38,089
Narrator: that's when rob
left the pharmacy
1164
01:03:38,091 --> 01:03:40,759
to talk to gacy about a job.
1165
01:03:40,761 --> 01:03:44,563
Proof rob's jacket
was in gacy's house.
1166
01:03:44,698 --> 01:03:46,698
So where is the teen?
1167
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:54,038
Investigators keep the pressure
on gacy's two closest employees.
1168
01:03:54,074 --> 01:03:56,174
Both mike rossi and david cram
1169
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:59,177
had lived in gacy's house
for a time.
1170
01:03:59,213 --> 01:04:01,446
Hachmeister: the investigators,
they were nonstop.
1171
01:04:01,448 --> 01:04:03,848
They'd follow these
individuals everywhere,
1172
01:04:03,917 --> 01:04:06,318
interview them at work, at home.
1173
01:04:08,355 --> 01:04:11,856
And they were starting to get
tired of seeing the police.
1174
01:04:11,925 --> 01:04:14,726
Narrator: one of the employees
agrees to come to the station
1175
01:04:14,861 --> 01:04:16,928
and answer more questions.
1176
01:04:16,930 --> 01:04:19,931
Gacy had had these kids
1177
01:04:20,066 --> 01:04:24,468
digging in his crawl space
in the basement.
1178
01:04:24,504 --> 01:04:29,273
They were digging where gacy
would be able to put some lime,
1179
01:04:29,309 --> 01:04:32,344
which would absorb odors.
1180
01:04:32,479 --> 01:04:34,145
This was kind of odd to us,
you know.
1181
01:04:34,214 --> 01:04:35,947
Why would you do
something like that?
1182
01:04:35,983 --> 01:04:37,215
But they explained it away,
1183
01:04:37,217 --> 01:04:39,751
that gacy said
that there was a sewage issue
1184
01:04:39,753 --> 01:04:43,755
and that it was drainage
for that sewage issue.
1185
01:04:43,757 --> 01:04:45,490
Kozenczak:
and then i finally said,
1186
01:04:45,492 --> 01:04:47,825
"could you just tell me, please,
1187
01:04:47,861 --> 01:04:52,163
if i was gonna look for robert,
where should i look for him?"
1188
01:04:52,165 --> 01:04:54,699
and he put his head down
and he said,
1189
01:04:54,768 --> 01:04:56,668
"in john's crawl space."
1190
01:04:59,106 --> 01:05:03,641
so we knew at that point that
we had to get another warrant
1191
01:05:03,644 --> 01:05:06,244
and go back into gacy's house,
1192
01:05:06,379 --> 01:05:10,916
into his crawl space
and start looking again
1193
01:05:11,051 --> 01:05:15,587
because apparently, we missed
something the first time around.
1194
01:05:15,722 --> 01:05:17,802
Narrator: the surveillance team
has been tailing gacy
1195
01:05:17,858 --> 01:05:20,124
for more than a week.
1196
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,128
Hachmeister: at this point, he
hadn't shaved for a couple days.
1197
01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:26,865
He's slouching.
His whole demeanor is different.
1198
01:05:26,867 --> 01:05:29,067
He was doing some uppers
and downers.
1199
01:05:29,202 --> 01:05:31,936
It had to be killing him
on the inside,
1200
01:05:31,939 --> 01:05:36,007
knowing that we were not gonna
let up on this investigation.
1201
01:05:36,043 --> 01:05:39,010
At this point,
we were like dogs with a bone.
1202
01:05:39,012 --> 01:05:41,145
Narrator: on the morning
of december 21st,
1203
01:05:41,214 --> 01:05:43,681
they follow gacy
to his local gas station,
1204
01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:47,018
where they witness him handing
over drugs to the attendant.
1205
01:05:47,020 --> 01:05:48,665
Hachmeister: when he left
the gas station...
1206
01:05:48,689 --> 01:05:51,556
he took off like a wild man.
1207
01:05:51,625 --> 01:05:53,224
So when we pulled him
out of the car,
1208
01:05:53,260 --> 01:05:57,028
i kind of pushed him around
a little bit and said,
1209
01:05:57,030 --> 01:05:58,496
"john, you're under arrest
1210
01:05:58,565 --> 01:06:02,233
for possession of
and delivery of marijuana."
1211
01:06:02,302 --> 01:06:03,435
he didn't really say anything.
1212
01:06:03,437 --> 01:06:06,571
He just seemed to be
staring into space.
1213
01:06:21,654 --> 01:06:26,458
Narrator: that same day, the
second search warrant arrives.
1214
01:06:26,593 --> 01:06:28,460
Sullivan: we had to get down
to the crawl space
1215
01:06:28,595 --> 01:06:31,796
because that's where
the two kids
1216
01:06:31,832 --> 01:06:34,332
who worked for him said
they were digging trenches.
1217
01:06:36,670 --> 01:06:38,469
tovar: i think it was
phil bettiker
1218
01:06:38,505 --> 01:06:41,072
who started digging.
1219
01:06:41,141 --> 01:06:44,876
And he found a left femur.
1220
01:06:45,011 --> 01:06:49,014
So he kept digging,
found a second left femur.
1221
01:06:49,149 --> 01:06:52,283
Kept digging, found a third one.
1222
01:06:52,352 --> 01:06:54,753
Sullivan: that's when i said,
"stop there."
1223
01:06:54,888 --> 01:06:56,887
and we called in
the medical examiner,
1224
01:06:56,923 --> 01:07:00,291
and he identified that
as a human bone.
1225
01:07:02,195 --> 01:07:05,629
♪♪
1226
01:07:05,665 --> 01:07:07,966
Narrator:
four days before christmas,
1227
01:07:07,968 --> 01:07:12,637
and john wayne gacy sits in
the des plaines police station.
1228
01:07:12,639 --> 01:07:16,574
Seven miles away, police
uncover bones in his basement,
1229
01:07:16,610 --> 01:07:19,177
bones belonging
to more than one body.
1230
01:07:20,914 --> 01:07:24,782
these bodies were decayed
for the most part.
1231
01:07:24,851 --> 01:07:28,386
Robert piest had only been
missing for 10 days.
1232
01:07:28,455 --> 01:07:31,456
So we knew for a fact
that this was not robert piest.
1233
01:07:31,458 --> 01:07:33,191
It was somebody else.
1234
01:07:33,193 --> 01:07:34,525
Hachmeister:
i get a phone call.
1235
01:07:34,594 --> 01:07:37,128
They said, "we have dead bodies
in a crawl space."
1236
01:07:37,263 --> 01:07:38,663
i turned to gacy, and i said,
1237
01:07:38,732 --> 01:07:40,732
"john, you're under arrest
for murder."
1238
01:07:40,867 --> 01:07:45,136
i was elated. i had to try
to be calm and cool.
1239
01:07:45,172 --> 01:07:48,205
But it was like
the most unbelievable thing
1240
01:07:48,241 --> 01:07:50,942
that ever happened to me...
Undescribable.
1241
01:07:50,944 --> 01:07:53,144
Tovar: he knew at this point
1242
01:07:53,180 --> 01:07:54,812
that we were gonna find
all the bodies.
1243
01:07:54,815 --> 01:07:57,414
And we told him
we'd already started digging.
1244
01:07:57,451 --> 01:07:59,283
Albrecht: gacy looks at me,
and he says,
1245
01:07:59,319 --> 01:08:01,619
"were you guys
in a crawl space?"
1246
01:08:01,621 --> 01:08:03,154
i says, "yeah, john. why?"
1247
01:08:03,289 --> 01:08:05,490
he says, "well, that's what
the lime was for."
1248
01:08:05,492 --> 01:08:07,670
i said, "well, what do you mean?
What do you mean the lime was?"
1249
01:08:07,694 --> 01:08:09,093
"to cover the smell."
1250
01:08:09,162 --> 01:08:10,828
and he said something
really ridiculous.
1251
01:08:10,897 --> 01:08:14,565
He said, "well, i don't want
you guys messing my carpets up,
1252
01:08:14,634 --> 01:08:19,203
so i'll draw you a map
of where everything is."
1253
01:08:19,338 --> 01:08:22,640
this drawing is a photocopy of
1254
01:08:22,775 --> 01:08:26,578
gacy's crawl space,
that he made this drawing,
1255
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:27,723
and you can see
in one spot here,
1256
01:08:27,747 --> 01:08:32,183
there's a rectangle
with an "x" on it.
1257
01:08:32,252 --> 01:08:36,988
That's where the first
body was buried.
1258
01:08:36,990 --> 01:08:38,310
Narrator:
over the next few hours,
1259
01:08:38,391 --> 01:08:41,659
gacy confesses to killing
dozens of boys and young men
1260
01:08:41,661 --> 01:08:44,395
and burying their bodies
under his house.
1261
01:08:44,431 --> 01:08:45,729
In chilling detail,
1262
01:08:45,765 --> 01:08:49,334
he tells them the murders
started in 1972.
1263
01:08:49,469 --> 01:08:52,203
The first one was self-defense.
1264
01:08:52,205 --> 01:08:54,672
This kid tried to come after him
with a knife in the morning
1265
01:08:54,708 --> 01:08:57,275
after they had spent the night
together having sex.
1266
01:08:57,344 --> 01:08:59,611
He knifed him.
1267
01:08:59,746 --> 01:09:03,414
Narrator: what gacy describes
goes beyond self-defense.
1268
01:09:43,156 --> 01:09:45,723
Albrecht: at that time,
he was married, still.
1269
01:09:45,792 --> 01:09:47,592
His wife was still there.
1270
01:09:47,661 --> 01:09:50,661
He mentioned... it was either
mother's day or easter
1271
01:09:50,730 --> 01:09:53,531
that he told his wife,
"this is the last day
1272
01:09:53,666 --> 01:09:56,801
that we're ever gonna have
any type of sexual contact."
1273
01:10:01,074 --> 01:10:04,608
narrator: it was the start
of a three-year killing spree,
1274
01:10:04,644 --> 01:10:06,811
picking up most of his
victims at night,
1275
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,216
cruising around chicago's
gay area, bughouse square.
1276
01:10:21,995 --> 01:10:25,296
He had this car
that he outfitted
1277
01:10:25,431 --> 01:10:28,366
to make it look like
it was a police car.
1278
01:10:28,501 --> 01:10:32,370
And he was able to stop kids
and tell them to get in the car.
1279
01:10:32,505 --> 01:10:36,975
Narrator: this ruse was part of
his well-honed routine.
1280
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,993
♪♪
1281
01:10:56,029 --> 01:11:00,531
Once he had them in the car,
he drove to his house.
1282
01:11:00,667 --> 01:11:03,401
There, he plied the kids
with alcohol and drugs
1283
01:11:03,470 --> 01:11:06,471
and entertained them
with his handcuff trick,
1284
01:11:06,473 --> 01:11:10,208
the same trick used by
dean allen corll, the candyman,
1285
01:11:10,210 --> 01:11:14,545
on his 29 victims in houston
just a few years earlier.
1286
01:11:39,906 --> 01:11:42,973
Unwittingly, these young men
would handcuff themselves,
1287
01:11:43,009 --> 01:11:46,044
and once they were
incapacitated like that,
1288
01:11:46,179 --> 01:11:49,180
he would do the rope trick.
1289
01:11:49,182 --> 01:11:51,182
Tovar: when he would
turn them around,
1290
01:11:51,184 --> 01:11:53,317
he'd take a piece of rope
with the loops on the end,
1291
01:11:53,386 --> 01:11:54,652
loop them together,
1292
01:11:54,654 --> 01:11:58,122
put a piece of wood
through it as a tourniquet,
1293
01:11:58,191 --> 01:12:01,926
and start tightening it
around their neck.
1294
01:12:02,061 --> 01:12:04,194
Hachmeister: he had it down
to such a science
1295
01:12:04,230 --> 01:12:07,331
that he could get it to where
he could rest the stick
1296
01:12:07,433 --> 01:12:11,269
on the individual's back
and it wouldn't unwind,
1297
01:12:11,404 --> 01:12:14,072
and then he could go around and
do different things in the house
1298
01:12:14,207 --> 01:12:17,408
and go back and torture
the young man and kill him.
1299
01:12:19,412 --> 01:12:22,480
we tried to remain as calm
as we could listening to this
1300
01:12:22,615 --> 01:12:25,016
and how he tortured
these young men.
1301
01:12:25,151 --> 01:12:27,430
It actually made the hair on
the back of your head stand up.
1302
01:12:27,454 --> 01:12:32,757
It was unbelievable.
1303
01:12:32,892 --> 01:12:35,426
Narrator: gacy admits
to raping and killing
1304
01:12:35,462 --> 01:12:42,166
more than 30 young men
in his home from 1972 to 1978.
1305
01:12:42,168 --> 01:12:47,805
He was flippant about it.
To him, it was a game.
1306
01:13:07,761 --> 01:13:10,928
By now, word spread
around chicago...
1308
01:13:10,964 --> 01:13:14,732
Bodies in a basement
on summerdale avenue.
1309
01:13:14,734 --> 01:13:18,736
The police had information
where the bodies were
1310
01:13:18,738 --> 01:13:20,938
and were going to
bring them out.
1311
01:13:21,073 --> 01:13:23,407
I, like all the other
reporters in town,
1312
01:13:23,476 --> 01:13:26,411
rushed to the scene
and watched it happen.
1313
01:13:26,546 --> 01:13:29,547
Tovar: the medical examiner
said he wanted us to dig
1314
01:13:29,616 --> 01:13:32,149
in a archeological-type
situation
1315
01:13:32,185 --> 01:13:35,620
so we could verify
where everybody was taken.
1316
01:13:35,755 --> 01:13:39,756
So each one of us got
a section of the house to dig.
1317
01:13:39,793 --> 01:13:43,227
Mine was the kitchen.
1318
01:13:43,362 --> 01:13:48,165
Eventually, the whole floor
was completely taken up
1319
01:13:48,201 --> 01:13:51,903
so that the investigators
had enough room
1320
01:13:52,038 --> 01:13:56,140
in a narrow crawl space
to be able to dig.
1321
01:13:58,344 --> 01:14:00,845
Tovar: whoever was in the hole
digging up the body
1322
01:14:00,980 --> 01:14:03,781
would put the pieces
of flesh and bones
1323
01:14:03,916 --> 01:14:06,384
into a body bag
down in the hole,
1324
01:14:06,386 --> 01:14:08,786
and then you'd give them
to someone who was above you
1325
01:14:08,788 --> 01:14:10,320
on the floor level.
1326
01:14:11,724 --> 01:14:17,995
we took extreme care to honor
and respect the remains.
1327
01:14:17,997 --> 01:14:20,198
Jacobson: the story was huge
from the minute
1328
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:23,701
we first saw
or heard of the first body
1329
01:14:23,803 --> 01:14:26,403
and then subsequently,
everyone thereafter,
1330
01:14:26,473 --> 01:14:28,038
the story just got bigger.
1331
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,475
Police digging under a house
in des plaines, illinois,
1332
01:14:30,610 --> 01:14:32,276
found four more bodies today.
1333
01:14:32,278 --> 01:14:34,011
That brings the total to nine.
1334
01:14:34,013 --> 01:14:35,546
Man: they found two more
bodies today,
1335
01:14:35,681 --> 01:14:37,214
long dead and decomposed,
1336
01:14:37,283 --> 01:14:40,417
man #2: six bodies bring the
total found to 15.
1337
01:14:40,487 --> 01:14:42,820
Narrator: each day,
the crowds grew.
1338
01:14:42,889 --> 01:14:46,757
Hundreds stood outside,
reporters and onlookers
1339
01:14:46,893 --> 01:14:49,961
all waiting
for the nightly body count.
1340
01:14:50,096 --> 01:14:53,230
Human nature loves
bad crime stories.
1341
01:14:53,233 --> 01:14:55,366
This couldn't have
been any worse.
1342
01:14:55,368 --> 01:14:57,234
So everybody was interested.
1343
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,374
you have to realize, you know,
there were a few tv stations
1344
01:15:03,443 --> 01:15:04,975
and everybody
carried the same thing,
1345
01:15:05,044 --> 01:15:08,245
and when it came on,
i do remember my mother said,
1346
01:15:08,281 --> 01:15:11,515
"your brother's one of them."
1347
01:15:11,584 --> 01:15:14,785
narrator: by december 28,
21 bodies were removed
1348
01:15:14,821 --> 01:15:17,321
from the house
on summerdale avenue.
1349
01:15:17,456 --> 01:15:20,258
Gacy's map was proving accurate.
1350
01:15:20,393 --> 01:15:23,394
Still, there was the question
of rob piest,
1351
01:15:23,463 --> 01:15:26,530
the young man whose
disappearance 10 days earlier
1352
01:15:26,566 --> 01:15:28,533
led to all of this.
1353
01:15:28,668 --> 01:15:30,534
He never seemed to be rattled
about anything.
1354
01:15:30,570 --> 01:15:32,270
The only time i saw him
get irritated
1355
01:15:32,405 --> 01:15:36,474
was when detective adams
asked him about robert piest,
1356
01:15:36,476 --> 01:15:38,408
whether he had suffered.
1357
01:15:38,444 --> 01:15:41,478
Narrator: in chilling detail,
gacy tells them what happened
1358
01:15:41,548 --> 01:15:43,814
that night
at the nisson pharmacy.
1359
01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:13,444
Rob piest's death
was like so many others.
1360
01:16:13,446 --> 01:16:15,646
Gacy's pattern
remained the same.
1361
01:16:55,822 --> 01:16:57,888
Tovar:
i-55 is a major interstate
1362
01:16:57,957 --> 01:16:59,289
going south from here,
1363
01:16:59,292 --> 01:17:02,293
and it crosses
the des plaines river.
1364
01:17:02,295 --> 01:17:05,362
And what gacy did
to robert piest
1365
01:17:05,431 --> 01:17:07,297
and three other victims
1366
01:17:07,333 --> 01:17:11,702
is he'd pull up
to the side of the bridge
1367
01:17:11,738 --> 01:17:13,571
and turn on that red light
he had.
1368
01:17:13,706 --> 01:17:16,974
So people driving by assumed
there was a police officer,
1369
01:17:17,043 --> 01:17:19,877
and they just wouldn't
pay any attention.
1370
01:17:20,012 --> 01:17:21,532
And he'd open the trunk,
take the body,
1371
01:17:21,580 --> 01:17:23,847
and just throw it
over the side into the river.
1372
01:17:23,883 --> 01:17:28,251
♪♪
1373
01:17:28,287 --> 01:17:32,456
Narrator: 29 on his property,
four in the river,
1374
01:17:32,458 --> 01:17:35,926
all young men,
all raped and strangled.
1375
01:17:35,995 --> 01:17:38,596
John wayne gacy
was now "the killer clown"
1376
01:17:38,598 --> 01:17:42,332
and america's
most prolific killer.
1377
01:17:42,402 --> 01:17:44,402
By new year's day,
dental records helped
1378
01:17:44,503 --> 01:17:49,006
police identify six victims,
including 19-year-old john szyc,
1379
01:17:49,075 --> 01:17:51,608
who disappeared
two years earlier.
1380
01:17:51,644 --> 01:17:54,811
His high-school ring
was found in gacy's house.
1381
01:17:54,847 --> 01:17:58,716
Gregory godzik's family
also got the knock on the door.
1382
01:18:00,820 --> 01:18:04,287
I remember they come in,
they make you sit down.
1383
01:18:04,323 --> 01:18:07,958
And they said,
"mr. godzik and mrs. godzik,
1384
01:18:08,027 --> 01:18:10,361
i would like to tell you
your son
1385
01:18:10,363 --> 01:18:14,298
is one of the official victims
of john wayne gacy."
1386
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,969
and they turn around
and they walk out.
1387
01:18:19,005 --> 01:18:20,638
And that's when i said
to my mother,
1388
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,239
"i told you he'd come home.
1389
01:18:22,308 --> 01:18:24,608
I just didn't think
it would be this way."
1390
01:18:29,182 --> 01:18:31,782
narrator: it was the early
spring before rob piest's body
1391
01:18:31,784 --> 01:18:35,319
was recovered from
the des plaines river.
1392
01:18:35,454 --> 01:18:39,123
By then, gacy is charged
with 33 counts of murder.
1393
01:18:41,394 --> 01:18:44,261
he pleads not guilty
by reason of insanity,
1394
01:18:44,396 --> 01:18:46,664
now claiming it
was his alter ego,
1395
01:18:46,799 --> 01:18:50,467
jack, who did the murders,
not him.
1396
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:55,072
By making a statement
to us about a split personality,
1397
01:18:55,207 --> 01:18:58,676
he really cemented himself in
with that defense
1398
01:18:58,811 --> 01:19:00,477
by the time it came to trial.
1399
01:19:00,546 --> 01:19:03,079
It didn't work.
1400
01:19:03,116 --> 01:19:06,550
Narrator:
the trial lasts five weeks.
1401
01:19:06,586 --> 01:19:08,886
Woman: it took the jury of
seven men and five women
1402
01:19:08,888 --> 01:19:10,287
less than two hours to find
1403
01:19:10,422 --> 01:19:14,291
john wayne gacy guilty
of murdering 33 young men.
1404
01:19:14,327 --> 01:19:16,627
Gacy was convicted
of murdering more people
1405
01:19:16,629 --> 01:19:18,495
than anyone else
in u.s. history.
1406
01:19:18,564 --> 01:19:23,367
I feel that the jury certainly
sent a loud message to him
1407
01:19:23,469 --> 01:19:26,436
and others who might want to
do it in that manner by the fact
1408
01:19:26,472 --> 01:19:28,973
that they only deliberated
for an hour and 45 minutes.
1409
01:19:29,108 --> 01:19:31,842
Woman: it was an emotional time
for relatives of the victims,
1410
01:19:31,844 --> 01:19:34,311
and many, like ken piest,
whose brother was killed,
1411
01:19:34,446 --> 01:19:35,645
want revenge.
1412
01:19:35,681 --> 01:19:37,581
There's only one solution now.
1413
01:19:37,583 --> 01:19:38,715
What is that?
1414
01:19:38,751 --> 01:19:40,317
I want to see him go
to the chair.
1415
01:19:40,353 --> 01:19:42,653
I hope he does get
the electric chair.
1416
01:19:42,722 --> 01:19:44,388
Then it'll make
everybody feel better.
1417
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:48,592
I'm sure it'll make the
other mothers feel better, too.
1418
01:19:48,628 --> 01:19:51,061
Narrator: gacy is sentenced
to death.
1419
01:19:51,063 --> 01:19:56,466
Revenge... that he killed my son
and that we're gonna kill him.
1420
01:19:56,502 --> 01:19:58,201
And, you know,
it's a life for a life,
1421
01:19:58,237 --> 01:20:01,739
is what it boils down to.
1422
01:20:01,741 --> 01:20:04,742
Tovar: we started out
with a missing
1423
01:20:04,877 --> 01:20:09,079
15-year-old boy
in a suburban town.
1424
01:20:09,081 --> 01:20:11,015
And then it just grew
to what it grew.
1425
01:20:11,150 --> 01:20:14,885
♪♪
1426
01:20:15,020 --> 01:20:18,355
Albrecht:
they were just young kids,
1427
01:20:18,391 --> 01:20:20,291
15 to 17 years old,
1428
01:20:20,293 --> 01:20:25,829
and got taken advantage of
by a vicious, evil man.
1429
01:20:25,865 --> 01:20:30,367
♪♪
1430
01:20:30,403 --> 01:20:32,169
Sullivan: not only did he
have his victims,
1431
01:20:32,238 --> 01:20:36,774
but he affected
so many, so many people.
1432
01:20:39,345 --> 01:20:41,511
A mom and a dad,
1433
01:20:41,581 --> 01:20:45,115
maybe a brother and a sister,
maybe more than that.
1434
01:20:45,117 --> 01:20:46,550
Friends.
1435
01:20:49,322 --> 01:20:55,526
Now take that and multiply that
by 33 that we know of.
1436
01:20:55,528 --> 01:21:01,198
♪♪
1437
01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:06,937
♪♪
1438
01:21:07,072 --> 01:21:09,906
Tovar: had he not taken
robert piest,
1439
01:21:09,942 --> 01:21:12,209
who knows how long
he could have kept going on?
1440
01:21:12,278 --> 01:21:17,213
♪♪
1441
01:21:17,250 --> 01:21:19,216
Godzik: my father was
very religious.
1442
01:21:19,351 --> 01:21:21,819
He was very catholic
with the rosaries,
1443
01:21:21,821 --> 01:21:26,356
and he said, "god would never
do this to me, but he did."
1444
01:21:26,425 --> 01:21:28,291
and from that point on,
1445
01:21:28,327 --> 01:21:31,428
my father never went back
to church again after that.
1446
01:21:31,497 --> 01:21:32,696
Never.
1447
01:21:32,732 --> 01:21:37,634
♪♪
1448
01:21:37,670 --> 01:21:40,037
We were lucky enough
that in two years,
1449
01:21:40,172 --> 01:21:42,773
we found closure in our family,
1450
01:21:42,842 --> 01:21:47,044
but other people could be
wondering, "where are they?
1451
01:21:47,046 --> 01:21:49,780
Who are they?"
that's the sad part.
1452
01:21:49,915 --> 01:21:57,587
♪♪
1453
01:21:57,657 --> 01:22:00,657
Moran: i grew up in chicago.
1454
01:22:00,726 --> 01:22:04,327
There wasn't really a person
in the chicago area
1455
01:22:04,363 --> 01:22:07,731
that did not know
of the gacy killings.
1456
01:22:09,735 --> 01:22:13,136
Narrator: lieutenant jason moran
was a kid in 1978
1457
01:22:13,172 --> 01:22:17,074
when chicago's most notorious
murder spree unraveled.
1458
01:22:17,076 --> 01:22:18,742
He never dreamed,
when he became head
1459
01:22:18,778 --> 01:22:21,211
of cook county's cold case unit,
1460
01:22:21,213 --> 01:22:25,281
that the killer clown's case
would be one of them.
1461
01:22:25,318 --> 01:22:26,884
Lieutenant moran came to me
and said,
1462
01:22:27,019 --> 01:22:32,956
"hey, you know, the largest
cold case is the gacy case."
1463
01:22:33,025 --> 01:22:34,958
he was convicted
of all those cases,
1464
01:22:35,027 --> 01:22:40,964
but there was eight boys who
were never identified.
1465
01:22:41,033 --> 01:22:44,368
Narrator: in 2011,
armed with dna technology,
1466
01:22:44,503 --> 01:22:45,903
lieutenant moran set out
1467
01:22:45,905 --> 01:22:49,706
to identify
those last eight young men.
1468
01:22:49,742 --> 01:22:53,243
Moran: as soon as we announced
the reopening of the case,
1469
01:22:53,245 --> 01:22:55,713
i mean, it was absolutely
overwhelming, you know,
1470
01:22:55,848 --> 01:22:57,514
because there could
only be eight.
1471
01:22:57,583 --> 01:22:59,516
There was only eight
unidentified victims,
1472
01:22:59,585 --> 01:23:01,118
so there could only be
eight families
1473
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,754
looking for
their missing loved one.
1474
01:23:05,891 --> 01:23:09,259
Within a couple of days,
we received over 100 calls
1475
01:23:09,328 --> 01:23:13,797
from family members of missing
persons all over the country,
1476
01:23:13,799 --> 01:23:18,001
and i was becoming
a national repository
1477
01:23:18,037 --> 01:23:21,337
for missing kids from the '70s.
1478
01:23:21,374 --> 01:23:22,806
Narrator: the killer clown
1479
01:23:22,941 --> 01:23:24,942
and mass murderer
dean allen corll,
1480
01:23:25,077 --> 01:23:26,476
the candyman in houston,
1481
01:23:26,545 --> 01:23:31,481
awakened america to a nightmare
hidden in its own backyard.
1482
01:23:31,517 --> 01:23:34,084
Moran: when you do
criminal investigations
1483
01:23:34,153 --> 01:23:35,419
for any amount of time,
1484
01:23:35,421 --> 01:23:40,490
you know that there's always
more to a case
1485
01:23:40,559 --> 01:23:44,761
than you hear in court
or that you hear in the media.
1486
01:23:44,764 --> 01:23:46,963
Narrator:
and there was a lot more.
1487
01:23:46,999 --> 01:23:51,168
Gacy and corll were two piranhas
in a much larger pond,
1488
01:23:51,237 --> 01:23:56,440
a hidden network,
a web stretching across america.
1489
01:24:14,260 --> 01:24:17,327
This was a guy
that just could not stop.
1490
01:24:17,329 --> 01:24:19,329
Woman: the raid last night
netted police
1491
01:24:19,398 --> 01:24:22,732
box after box of pictures
of young males available
1492
01:24:22,768 --> 01:24:25,869
to older men
for homosexual activities.
1493
01:24:25,938 --> 01:24:28,805
This was a pond of perversity.
1494
01:24:28,874 --> 01:24:31,674
next time on "the clown & the candyman"...
1495
01:24:31,710 --> 01:24:34,678
and this john david norman was
absolutely a traveling criminal.
1496
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,148
Man: he sent boys to service
clients throughout the states.
1497
01:24:38,217 --> 01:24:39,950
They came from
all walks of life.
1498
01:24:40,085 --> 01:24:41,530
Man #2: they would
infiltrate organizations
1499
01:24:41,554 --> 01:24:43,286
like the boy scouts,
like big brothers,
1500
01:24:43,322 --> 01:24:44,421
police departments.
1501
01:24:44,423 --> 01:24:45,889
Man #3: this was
a national scheme.
1502
01:24:45,891 --> 01:24:48,625
They were supplying boys
all over the country.
1503
01:24:48,661 --> 01:24:51,161
It's a very good cover for these
individuals because
1504
01:24:51,197 --> 01:24:52,762
they look like
"philanthropists,"
1505
01:24:52,798 --> 01:24:54,698
that they're helping young boys.
1506
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:57,901
Grooming is like psychological
and emotional quicksand.
1507
01:24:57,970 --> 01:24:59,636
When you realize
what's happening,
1508
01:24:59,638 --> 01:25:01,718
you're already neck deep
and you can't get out of it.
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