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Put on gloves. 6 00:00:14,927 --> 00:00:16,187 Let 'em go out there. 7 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:20,633 Let's legitimately see who the toughest guy is. 8 00:00:20,672 --> 00:00:22,852 ♪ 9 00:00:22,892 --> 00:00:26,552 The Brawl For All was probably the worst idea 10 00:00:26,591 --> 00:00:28,591 in the professional wrestling business. 11 00:00:28,637 --> 00:00:31,247 Wrestlers risked their bodies - and their careers - 12 00:00:31,292 --> 00:00:33,342 for a chance in the spotlight. 13 00:00:33,381 --> 00:00:36,171 For some, it would all come crashing down 14 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:37,990 in the Brawl For All. 15 00:00:38,038 --> 00:00:43,038 A lot of people did get hurt. I was fucked up. 16 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:44,826 It was looking kind of sad. 17 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:46,520 The guys were gassed and blowing up, 18 00:00:46,568 --> 00:00:48,868 and the crowd wasn't really getting with it. 19 00:00:48,918 --> 00:00:50,698 [Audience] [booing] 20 00:00:50,746 --> 00:00:54,656 They got hurt. They got embarrassed. 21 00:00:54,706 --> 00:00:56,796 And they got their careers shortened. 22 00:00:56,839 --> 00:00:59,099 It was a train wreck. Come on, watch it! 23 00:00:59,146 --> 00:01:01,186 Just watch! You'll see. 24 00:01:01,235 --> 00:01:10,505 ♪ 25 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:11,978 By the late 90s, 26 00:01:12,028 --> 00:01:14,508 wrestling had become a global phenomenon. 27 00:01:14,552 --> 00:01:16,772 Two companies were competing for dominance in 28 00:01:16,815 --> 00:01:19,945 a TV ratings war, as every Monday night, 29 00:01:19,992 --> 00:01:25,042 millions would tune in to watch WWF or WCW. 30 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:26,995 The battle was fought through an escalation 31 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:29,573 of bold and provocative new ideas. 32 00:01:29,611 --> 00:01:33,441 Some still resonate today, others are long forgotten. 33 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:36,624 On this episode, we reveal the inside story of 34 00:01:36,661 --> 00:01:39,881 what's been called wrestling's worst idea... ever. 35 00:01:39,925 --> 00:01:42,535 ♪ 36 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:45,280 This is Vince Russo here for The Brand. 37 00:01:45,322 --> 00:01:47,242 We will talk about anything today, 38 00:01:47,281 --> 00:01:49,411 but professional wrestling. Why? 39 00:01:49,457 --> 00:01:50,887 Because I hate wrestling, bro. 40 00:01:50,936 --> 00:01:52,416 I don't want to talk about wrestling. 41 00:01:52,460 --> 00:01:54,240 I'll talk about your mother, your grandmother, 42 00:01:54,288 --> 00:01:55,678 your grandfather. 43 00:01:55,724 --> 00:01:57,164 My name is Vince Russo. 44 00:01:57,204 --> 00:02:01,164 I was a Head Writer at WWF Magazine. 45 00:02:01,208 --> 00:02:03,118 Around the time when I started writing the magazine, 46 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:07,126 like, '95, '96, the product was horrible. 47 00:02:07,170 --> 00:02:11,170 There were characters at the time that were so bad - 48 00:02:11,218 --> 00:02:14,998 T.L. Hopper, The Goon, Mantaur... 49 00:02:15,047 --> 00:02:18,487 What is this? It looks like a half-man, half-beast. Hey! 50 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:21,619 I'm like, there's no way he's getting his head in the ring, 51 00:02:21,663 --> 00:02:24,273 and sure enough, he cannot get in the ring. 52 00:02:24,318 --> 00:02:29,188 Times were changing, and the WWE kept going backwards. 53 00:02:29,236 --> 00:02:32,456 With the internet, the secret was out of the bag. 54 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:34,070 People know this is fake. 55 00:02:34,110 --> 00:02:36,590 What they really want to know is, 56 00:02:36,634 --> 00:02:39,644 what kind of really goes on behind the scenes? 57 00:02:39,681 --> 00:02:41,511 That's where everything was moving. 58 00:02:41,552 --> 00:02:43,602 ♪ 59 00:02:43,641 --> 00:02:45,771 There's a lot of people that try to say it doesn't matter 60 00:02:45,817 --> 00:02:48,117 whether people know that it's rigged. 61 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:50,868 I don't like to use the word fake. It does matter. 62 00:02:52,346 --> 00:02:54,086 'Cause there's nothing fake about it. 63 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,960 It may be predetermined, it may even be choreographed. 64 00:02:57,002 --> 00:02:59,612 It can be manipulated, but there's nothing fake 65 00:02:59,657 --> 00:03:01,917 about guys breaking their bodies down. 66 00:03:01,964 --> 00:03:03,624 I'm Jim Cornette. I've been a promoter, 67 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:06,361 a match maker, a manager, a trainer. 68 00:03:06,403 --> 00:03:10,493 Everything in wrestling, for the last 40 years. 69 00:03:10,538 --> 00:03:13,238 [Vince] When I started working for the WWF, 70 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,540 at the time, Vince's inner circle, they were lifers. 71 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:19,237 They had been in the wrestling business forever, 72 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:20,586 and I felt that they were looking at the 73 00:03:20,635 --> 00:03:24,985 wrestling business from within. I came as a fan. 74 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:27,160 [Jim] Vince McMahon is, is somebody that 75 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:29,167 is never gonna be fully understood. 76 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,339 He's a genius and a demon. 77 00:03:31,385 --> 00:03:34,125 Vince McMahon has no other hobbies. 78 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:35,950 I doubt very seriously if he's gone to the 79 00:03:35,998 --> 00:03:39,438 grocery store or been to a movie in over 40 years. 80 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,920 But Vince McMahon has always been the WWF. 81 00:03:42,961 --> 00:03:46,401 I got a call from Vince's assistant, and she said, 82 00:03:46,443 --> 00:03:48,453 "Vince wants to see you up here immediately." 83 00:03:48,489 --> 00:03:53,669 So, I literally think I am going up to his office to be fired. 84 00:03:53,711 --> 00:03:57,061 Then, as I walk in his office, all the minions - 85 00:03:57,106 --> 00:04:01,276 Bruce Prichard, Jim Ross, Pat Patterson, Jim Cornette - 86 00:04:01,328 --> 00:04:05,508 and, Vince has got the Raw Magazine in his hand. 87 00:04:05,549 --> 00:04:08,729 And he slams it down on the table and he says, 88 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:12,730 "This is what our television show needs to be." 89 00:04:12,774 --> 00:04:16,044 And, from that point on, I became involved in 90 00:04:16,081 --> 00:04:17,871 the writing of the show. 91 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:20,219 Vince Russo brings an outsider's perspective 92 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,310 to the secretive world of match making, 93 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:24,259 and he isn't afraid to push his own vision of 94 00:04:24,307 --> 00:04:25,917 what wrestling could be. 95 00:04:25,961 --> 00:04:28,141 At first, I was like, "Okay, he's a goof." 96 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:29,880 He's never been involved in wrestling. 97 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:31,491 He doesn't know how this stuff works. 98 00:04:31,532 --> 00:04:35,142 We can try to explain it to him. And, within a few months, 99 00:04:35,187 --> 00:04:37,277 I realized he didn't want to learn. 100 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,060 He wanted to do wrestling the way he wanted to do it, 101 00:04:40,105 --> 00:04:42,275 which was... The Jerry Springer Show. 102 00:04:42,325 --> 00:04:43,935 [screaming] 103 00:04:43,979 --> 00:04:46,629 The Jerry Springer Show was the hottest thing on TV. 104 00:04:46,677 --> 00:04:50,507 We literally would sit there and write Monday Night Raw 105 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:53,471 with the Springer Show playing in the background. 106 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:57,650 This approach would become the Attitude Era. 107 00:04:57,688 --> 00:05:01,338 You had angles where guys were stealing each other's wives, 108 00:05:01,388 --> 00:05:03,908 or, you know, one guy stole the other guy's dog 109 00:05:03,955 --> 00:05:05,605 and cooked it and fed it to him. 110 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:10,013 Back then, man, you had fraternities on college campuses 111 00:05:10,048 --> 00:05:13,658 gathering every Monday night to watch Raw, 112 00:05:13,704 --> 00:05:15,184 across the country. 113 00:05:15,227 --> 00:05:17,447 So, number one, you can't-- you don't want to insult 114 00:05:17,491 --> 00:05:19,711 their intelligence 'cause they'll never watch it again. 115 00:05:19,754 --> 00:05:22,154 And number two, you don't want to mamby pamby it. 116 00:05:22,191 --> 00:05:25,501 That's what I was all about during the Attitude Era was, 117 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:29,332 what was gonna make a casual television viewer 118 00:05:29,372 --> 00:05:33,592 watch this product if they weren't a wrestling fan. 119 00:05:33,637 --> 00:05:36,157 To maintain their edge, WWF needs a 120 00:05:36,205 --> 00:05:38,555 constant stream of original ideas, 121 00:05:38,599 --> 00:05:41,649 something audiences have never seen before. 122 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:43,209 Look, here's the deal, man. 123 00:05:43,255 --> 00:05:44,865 You gotta bring something to the old man. 124 00:05:44,909 --> 00:05:47,429 He's looking for an idea. What's the next big thing? 125 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:50,567 I don't know. How about this? Okay! 126 00:05:50,611 --> 00:05:54,401 I'm Jim Ross. Got into wrestling in 1974 so, 127 00:05:54,441 --> 00:05:56,881 my career has lasted for many generations, 128 00:05:56,921 --> 00:05:59,011 as a broadcaster, as administrator, 129 00:05:59,054 --> 00:06:01,364 and Executive Vice President. 130 00:06:01,404 --> 00:06:02,974 The idea came from Vince Russo. 131 00:06:03,014 --> 00:06:05,194 So, get inside his head. Hell, I don't know. 132 00:06:05,234 --> 00:06:09,634 The idea from the Brawl For All was really simple... okay. 133 00:06:09,673 --> 00:06:13,983 I was not a big fan of JBL, John Layfield. 134 00:06:14,025 --> 00:06:17,415 I was from New York. John was, you know, from Texas. 135 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:19,074 I thought he had a big mouth. 136 00:06:19,117 --> 00:06:21,157 I thought he was full of himself. 137 00:06:21,206 --> 00:06:23,376 I thought he was a bully. 138 00:06:23,426 --> 00:06:26,206 We were backstage at a show one day, 139 00:06:26,255 --> 00:06:29,605 and John Layfield made the comment that, 140 00:06:29,650 --> 00:06:32,830 "If this were real, I would beat everybody's ass 141 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:34,130 in the locker room." 142 00:06:34,176 --> 00:06:37,086 So, now I'm sitting there and I'm saying, 143 00:06:37,135 --> 00:06:41,355 you braggadocios bully bastard. 144 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:44,101 I know of at least ten guys in this locker room 145 00:06:44,142 --> 00:06:46,582 that'll kick your ass. I went to Vince McMahon and 146 00:06:46,623 --> 00:06:49,713 I proposed the idea of a Brawl For All. 147 00:06:49,757 --> 00:06:51,017 And he goes, "What do you mean?" 148 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:52,932 I said, "Vince, we're becoming more, 149 00:06:52,977 --> 00:06:54,627 and more, and more, and more real. 150 00:06:54,675 --> 00:06:56,755 Let 'em fight for real, man. Put on gloves, 151 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:58,807 let 'em go out there, let 'em fight. 152 00:06:58,853 --> 00:07:03,733 Let's legitimately see who the toughest guy is!" 153 00:07:03,771 --> 00:07:07,691 Vince gave the idea his blessing and... 154 00:07:07,731 --> 00:07:11,131 we went on with the Brawl For All. 155 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:13,429 The top stars have nothing to gain risking their 156 00:07:13,476 --> 00:07:15,996 reputation in an unpredictable fight. 157 00:07:16,044 --> 00:07:19,054 The challenge is to find 16 competitors 158 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:19,960 with nothing to lose. 159 00:07:20,004 --> 00:07:22,574 ♪ 160 00:07:22,616 --> 00:07:24,786 I got stabbed with the bottle, the wine bottle. 161 00:07:24,835 --> 00:07:26,525 I was in a bar fight and they broke a bottle 162 00:07:26,576 --> 00:07:27,706 and stuck it in. 163 00:07:27,751 --> 00:07:29,271 When they stuck it in, it went in and up. 164 00:07:29,318 --> 00:07:31,408 Punctured a lung, lung collapsed... 165 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:34,501 shredded the diaphragm and lacerated the liver. 166 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:36,021 Everybody knows me as Bart Gunn, 167 00:07:36,064 --> 00:07:38,854 here in the States. Part of The Smoking Gunns. 168 00:07:38,893 --> 00:07:41,243 Cowboy gimmick. We rode horses out. 169 00:07:41,286 --> 00:07:42,366 That was pretty cool. 170 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:44,248 - Hey there, I'm Bart. - And I'm Billy. 171 00:07:44,289 --> 00:07:46,029 - Yeehoo! - Yeehaw! 172 00:07:46,074 --> 00:07:47,994 Yoo! 173 00:07:48,032 --> 00:07:50,472 For whatever reason, everybody that comes in as 174 00:07:50,513 --> 00:07:53,733 a tag team, eventually, they get split up. 175 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:57,297 When Billy and I were split up it-- my career kinda... 176 00:07:57,346 --> 00:07:59,256 ah, don't want to say fizzled. 177 00:07:59,304 --> 00:08:01,834 I guess you could say it fizzled out. 178 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:04,142 Just, I had a hard time adjusting to it though. 179 00:08:04,179 --> 00:08:08,049 I, it was a little difficult. 180 00:08:08,096 --> 00:08:10,186 When I was first approached, it was Bruce. 181 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,668 He says, "Hey, you know, we're gonna do this 182 00:08:11,708 --> 00:08:14,448 Brawl For All, kind of a tough man contest." 183 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,414 I go, "How are you gonna do that?" 184 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:17,802 I said, "Nah," said, "don't want to do it." 185 00:08:17,845 --> 00:08:19,795 I thought it was a stupid idea. 186 00:08:19,847 --> 00:08:21,887 And then, Kevin Kelly, he said, 187 00:08:21,936 --> 00:08:23,496 "This here will be great for your career." 188 00:08:23,546 --> 00:08:25,366 He says, "You're kind of stuck right there at the middle 189 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:27,117 and, you go through this," he says, 190 00:08:27,158 --> 00:08:28,678 "you'll have a great run with Austin 'cause that's-- 191 00:08:28,725 --> 00:08:29,805 the winner of the tournament's gonna get 192 00:08:29,857 --> 00:08:31,287 a run with Steve Austin." 193 00:08:31,336 --> 00:08:33,026 And at the time, he was the hottest thing going. 194 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:35,517 And then, of course, you work with the top-top guy, 195 00:08:35,558 --> 00:08:37,038 you get top-top pay. 196 00:08:37,081 --> 00:08:38,611 And I thought about it, thought about it, 197 00:08:38,648 --> 00:08:42,218 and that's when I decided that I would go ahead and do it. 198 00:08:42,260 --> 00:08:44,390 The WWF approaches their toughest, 199 00:08:44,436 --> 00:08:46,476 most under-utilized wrestlers, 200 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:51,096 with the lure of cash prizes and main event status. 201 00:08:51,139 --> 00:08:53,229 Well, there were a lot of tough guys in the locker room. 202 00:08:53,271 --> 00:08:56,101 I... I think when I looked at this thing, 203 00:08:56,144 --> 00:09:01,724 I'm like, Godfather, like, was probably the toughest guy. 204 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:04,198 [Jim] Big. 6'7, 6'8 guy. 205 00:09:04,239 --> 00:09:06,279 Worked in bars. Had been a bouncer. 206 00:09:06,328 --> 00:09:08,288 My real name is Charles Wright. 207 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:11,900 I wrestled for many years in the WWF, 208 00:09:11,942 --> 00:09:15,602 as everything from Papa Shango to Kama, 209 00:09:15,642 --> 00:09:18,472 joined the Nation of Domination with The Rock and 210 00:09:18,514 --> 00:09:19,784 that whole group. 211 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:22,950 And then, became my favourite person ever: 212 00:09:22,997 --> 00:09:26,607 The Godfather. Selling white girls on TV. 213 00:09:26,653 --> 00:09:29,313 Talking about getting high, and selling pussy. 214 00:09:29,351 --> 00:09:31,571 I'm in the Nation of Domination now. 215 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:33,664 They're building up Mark Henry. 216 00:09:33,703 --> 00:09:35,363 The Rock's taking over. 217 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,490 So, now, I'm like, I gotta make a change. 218 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:38,973 They're not doing nothing with me. 219 00:09:39,013 --> 00:09:41,453 Bruce Prichard had called me and said, 220 00:09:41,493 --> 00:09:43,543 "Hey, we're doing this thing. You get," I think, 221 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:47,203 "$10,000 if you fight and so much more if you win. 222 00:09:47,238 --> 00:09:49,458 And, you're wearing gloves." And I'm like, "Hell, yeah! 223 00:09:49,501 --> 00:09:51,631 I'll do it." Type of stuff I do anyway, 224 00:09:51,678 --> 00:09:54,328 so I was in right from the beginning. 225 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:57,066 Darren Drozdov, one of my favorite recruits of all time, 226 00:09:57,118 --> 00:09:58,688 came out of the University of Maryland, 227 00:09:58,728 --> 00:10:00,028 he just wanted to compete. 228 00:10:00,077 --> 00:10:02,377 They brought me in as a football player 229 00:10:02,427 --> 00:10:04,647 to see if I could learn the sport. 230 00:10:04,691 --> 00:10:07,351 We saw footage of him puking on an NFL game. 231 00:10:07,389 --> 00:10:08,999 I threw up all the time. 232 00:10:09,043 --> 00:10:10,173 If I was throwing up at that time, 233 00:10:10,218 --> 00:10:11,308 if I could grab a hold of ya, 234 00:10:11,349 --> 00:10:12,869 you'd get one in the face. 235 00:10:12,916 --> 00:10:14,566 I'd run into the WWE offices 236 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,794 to have a meeting with Vince McMahon. 237 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:18,623 Vince loves that kind of humor. 238 00:10:18,661 --> 00:10:20,231 If you're a writer and you come up with a skit that 239 00:10:20,271 --> 00:10:22,711 involves puking, taking a dump, 240 00:10:22,752 --> 00:10:25,192 peeing, he'll probably buy it. 241 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:27,763 He's gonna puke! He's gonna puke! 242 00:10:27,801 --> 00:10:30,631 He's gonna-- Yeah, he's gonna puke! 243 00:10:30,673 --> 00:10:33,373 Whatever it takes, you know... We'll do it this way. 244 00:10:33,415 --> 00:10:34,845 I'll come in as Puke, right. 245 00:10:34,895 --> 00:10:37,025 You know, it got my foot in the door or whatever, 246 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:39,381 and you know, I just went from there. 247 00:10:39,421 --> 00:10:41,641 Russo's idea is gaining traction, 248 00:10:41,684 --> 00:10:45,954 but not everyone in the WWF is convinced it'll work. 249 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:48,603 I first heard about the Brawl For All, I believe, 250 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,648 at one of the TV tapings when they were 251 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:53,443 mentioning it was gonna be starting in the next few weeks. 252 00:10:53,478 --> 00:10:56,568 And, as I grasped what they were talking about, 253 00:10:56,612 --> 00:10:59,222 I got more and more concerned about it. 254 00:10:59,267 --> 00:11:01,487 You don't know that it's not gonna work until you try it. 255 00:11:01,530 --> 00:11:03,710 I didn't kill the idea in my mind's eye 256 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:04,790 when I first heard it. 257 00:11:04,838 --> 00:11:06,488 There was no precedent for it. 258 00:11:06,535 --> 00:11:08,275 And, you're taking guys out of their element and 259 00:11:08,319 --> 00:11:09,889 putting them into their imaginary element of 260 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:12,630 what they pretend they know, and that's bar fighting, 261 00:11:12,672 --> 00:11:14,412 when some of them have never been in a bar fight. 262 00:11:14,456 --> 00:11:16,626 Now the wrestlers are living out their fantasies. 263 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,716 And the result's just chaos. 264 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:23,855 ♪ 265 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:25,640 With the unusual concept of combining 266 00:11:25,685 --> 00:11:28,295 professional wrestling and real fighting, 267 00:11:28,339 --> 00:11:32,689 the architects of the Brawl For All make final preparations. 268 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:34,515 They went around to all the talent and 269 00:11:34,563 --> 00:11:36,223 asked who wanted to participate. 270 00:11:36,260 --> 00:11:39,610 The story was - and I didn't see this hat - but, 271 00:11:39,655 --> 00:11:42,215 the story was that the pairings were chosen at random 272 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:44,226 by drawing names out of a hat. 273 00:11:44,268 --> 00:11:47,098 What we did - and we did it in my office - 274 00:11:47,141 --> 00:11:50,361 had Savio Vega. We had a brown paper bag. 275 00:11:50,405 --> 00:11:52,705 I wrote everyone's name down on a piece of paper, 276 00:11:52,755 --> 00:11:55,845 threw it in a bag and, Savio drew the names. 277 00:11:55,889 --> 00:11:58,369 And, the first name drawn was the first name 278 00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,333 on the bracket, and so on and so forth. 279 00:12:00,371 --> 00:12:02,111 So, that's how the brackets were made. 280 00:12:02,156 --> 00:12:04,896 As the brackets are set, these 16 men become the 281 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:07,641 official competitors in wrestling's first ever 282 00:12:07,683 --> 00:12:10,253 legitimate prize fighting tournament. 283 00:12:10,294 --> 00:12:12,864 You knew Steve Blackman was like the real deal. 284 00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:15,036 Then, you had a guy like Marc Mero, 285 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:19,002 who was a legitimate gold gloves champion. 286 00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:22,132 Mark Canterbury. 6'5, 300. 287 00:12:22,176 --> 00:12:23,736 Punches like a bull. 288 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:25,656 John Layfield Bradshaw. 289 00:12:25,701 --> 00:12:27,961 He's a big 'ol rough and tough Texan. 290 00:12:28,008 --> 00:12:31,748 Brakkus was a body builder. He didn't have the mobility. 291 00:12:31,794 --> 00:12:33,494 Brakkus had about as much business in the 292 00:12:33,535 --> 00:12:35,315 Brawl For All as I would. 293 00:12:35,363 --> 00:12:38,803 Savio Vega always had like a little bit of a belly, 294 00:12:38,845 --> 00:12:40,665 but could take care of himself. 295 00:12:40,716 --> 00:12:42,326 Hawk would have no problem pulling a 296 00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:45,290 guy's eyeball out and eating it, or biting his nose off his face. 297 00:12:45,329 --> 00:12:47,719 Bart Gunn was hard working, dependable, loyal. 298 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:48,987 You could rely on him. 299 00:12:49,029 --> 00:12:52,209 Droz was a no fear kinda guy. 300 00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:55,379 Bob Holly was a badass on a street level. 301 00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:57,906 Carl Ouellet. Big time talented kid. 302 00:12:57,951 --> 00:13:01,301 Godfather. He beat up people, like, for a living. 303 00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:03,385 Dan Severn was a UFC Hall of Fame'r. 304 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:05,704 A Superfight champion, a Triple Crown winner. 305 00:13:05,741 --> 00:13:08,881 Ron Harris walked into bars for one reason, 306 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:10,348 and that was to fight. 307 00:13:10,398 --> 00:13:12,658 2 Cold Scorpio had decided he would try and break out 308 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:16,714 of the Flash Funk ha-ha gimmick. 309 00:13:16,752 --> 00:13:21,192 The one man that stands out is recent WWF acquisition 310 00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:25,935 Steve Williams, also known to fans as Dr. Death. 311 00:13:25,979 --> 00:13:28,809 He was like a little brother. We brought him out of college, 312 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:30,201 gave him his first job. 313 00:13:30,244 --> 00:13:32,464 Introducing, first, in the red corner... 314 00:13:32,507 --> 00:13:34,677 From the University of Oklahoma, 315 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:37,596 Steve "Dr. Death" Williams. 316 00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:40,782 He was a homegrown sentimental favorite. 317 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,910 I think he was four-time all-American football. 318 00:13:42,952 --> 00:13:45,612 And, I believe he was four-time all-American wrestler, too. 319 00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:47,300 Toughest guy in the business. 320 00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:50,218 Does this face look like he's ever been scared? 321 00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:51,574 Jim Ross's boy. 322 00:13:51,613 --> 00:13:52,963 Took a lot of heat for that, saying that, 323 00:13:53,006 --> 00:13:54,436 but he's Jim Ross's boy. 324 00:13:54,485 --> 00:13:56,135 You hear about the stories in Japan. 325 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,713 He just beat the Japanese up, 326 00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:58,969 drop 'em on their head. 327 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:01,672 Agh! 328 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,060 The reason for bringing Dr. Death into WWE... 329 00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,275 was to eventually have a run with Stone Cold. 330 00:14:07,324 --> 00:14:10,374 So, we thought if this works out and Doc can pull his way 331 00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:12,504 through this tournament, we might have him ready 332 00:14:12,547 --> 00:14:14,847 to have a program with Austin. 333 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:18,067 These guys, for years and years, 334 00:14:18,118 --> 00:14:21,898 go out there and they have a choreographed fight. 335 00:14:21,948 --> 00:14:24,988 You know at some point in the locker room, 336 00:14:25,038 --> 00:14:27,948 like, these conversations really had to come up. 337 00:14:27,997 --> 00:14:30,257 Like, how bad an ass is Steve Blackman? 338 00:14:30,304 --> 00:14:32,094 Now it was real. 339 00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:37,092 Now a lot of these questions were going to be answered. 340 00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:39,357 Scheduled over a two-month period, 341 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,010 the Brawl For All premiers June 29th 1998 342 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:44,446 on Monday Night Raw. 343 00:14:44,492 --> 00:14:46,892 Each match consists of three, one-minute rounds 344 00:14:46,929 --> 00:14:49,799 with five points awarded for each landed punch 345 00:14:49,845 --> 00:14:51,405 and each take down. 346 00:14:51,455 --> 00:14:57,845 The last man standing will receive a $75,000 cash prize. 347 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,637 We are watching the Brawl For All 348 00:14:59,681 --> 00:15:02,121 for the first time in over 20 years. 349 00:15:02,162 --> 00:15:03,692 Look, look, look. Look, look, look at this here. 350 00:15:03,728 --> 00:15:06,728 Look, look. See? 351 00:15:06,775 --> 00:15:08,905 Oh, this is great, man. Catching up. 352 00:15:08,951 --> 00:15:12,521 God, I was 28 years old and I'm 50 now so... 353 00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:15,263 Maybe 2, 3, 4 hours before the match, 354 00:15:15,305 --> 00:15:19,565 getting ready to fight a UFC fighter... 355 00:15:19,614 --> 00:15:22,794 Well, me, I was outside with some of the girls, 356 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:24,494 smoking cannabis. 357 00:15:24,532 --> 00:15:26,012 And that just goes to show you, 358 00:15:26,055 --> 00:15:27,795 one, that I was always smoking cannabis. 359 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:30,449 That's not the big deal. It's, I had no fear. 360 00:15:30,494 --> 00:15:31,974 [match bell ringing] 361 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,798 Anybody that knows anything can tell right off the bat 362 00:15:33,845 --> 00:15:35,495 these guys do not know how to box, 363 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:37,113 and it's just sloppy. 364 00:15:37,153 --> 00:15:40,643 You've gotten away from all your moves and all your set ups. 365 00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:42,718 It has nothing to do with wrestling. 366 00:15:42,767 --> 00:15:44,897 Jim Ross had to try to explain to the fans 367 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,124 why these guys may be great wrestlers, 368 00:15:47,163 --> 00:15:49,993 but they looked like two drunks in a bar right now. 369 00:15:50,036 --> 00:15:52,206 It's not just the fans who are frustrated... 370 00:15:52,255 --> 00:15:54,125 The chaos of the fights makes them difficult 371 00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:56,430 for anyone to follow. 372 00:15:56,477 --> 00:15:58,607 I was so confused when everybody got signed up and 373 00:15:58,653 --> 00:16:00,353 the rules kept evolving, and... 374 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:01,874 are take downs legal? 375 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:03,657 I don't know if that's a take down or a knock down or... 376 00:16:03,701 --> 00:16:04,881 [match bell ringing] 377 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,310 Is that a take down? 378 00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:08,096 That should be a take down right there. You think? 379 00:16:08,141 --> 00:16:10,711 You've got a referee that's never refereed boxing 380 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:13,762 or a competitive fight. You've got judges that have 381 00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:16,188 never judged any type of competitive fight. 382 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:19,016 When you've got stupidity on this grand, 383 00:16:19,065 --> 00:16:21,275 biblical scale, anything is possible. 384 00:16:21,328 --> 00:16:23,548 I mean, again, I gotta be honest with you... 385 00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:27,771 As a, as a pure television viewer, I'm... 386 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:30,642 I'm totally entertained by this. 387 00:16:30,685 --> 00:16:33,075 Dan Severn narrowly defeats The Godfather 388 00:16:33,122 --> 00:16:35,862 in the first round, but senses his reputation 389 00:16:35,907 --> 00:16:37,737 as a decorated fighter is at risk 390 00:16:37,779 --> 00:16:40,129 if he continues on. 391 00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:42,963 He decides to drop out of the tournament altogether, 392 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:46,182 which sends The Godfather into round two. 393 00:16:46,222 --> 00:16:47,792 Nobody knew what was going on, 394 00:16:47,832 --> 00:16:49,182 and that's when guys started saying, 395 00:16:49,225 --> 00:16:51,095 "Let's just punch each other." 396 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:53,840 Make it exciting, just throw punches. 397 00:16:53,882 --> 00:16:55,932 Somebody gets knocked out, they get knocked out. 398 00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:58,101 At the time, I was wrestling with Bob Holly. 399 00:16:58,147 --> 00:16:59,237 We were a tag team. 400 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:00,849 We were actually The Midnight Express. 401 00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:04,979 But, my first bout and his, they put us against each other. 402 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,944 You know, I just thought that was a really 403 00:17:06,982 --> 00:17:09,122 shitty way of doing it. "So, yeah, we drew 'em. 404 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:10,548 We drew 'em all out of the hat. 405 00:17:10,594 --> 00:17:12,124 That's just the way it came out." 406 00:17:12,161 --> 00:17:15,381 No... I'm not buying that one. 407 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,245 As the reality of the situation takes hold, 408 00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:22,078 brotherhood and professional relationships are put aside. 409 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:24,518 My friend, my partner, we're gonna go out and, 410 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:28,215 and whack each other. Started... kinda weird. 411 00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:30,224 'Cause, we travel together. We shared rooms. 412 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:32,396 You know, we always ate together, go train together. 413 00:17:32,442 --> 00:17:34,402 Said, well, I gotta hit him or he's gonna hit me. 414 00:17:34,444 --> 00:17:36,534 Oh! A smack! 415 00:17:36,577 --> 00:17:38,577 I didn't go easy on him. I wanted to win. 416 00:17:38,622 --> 00:17:41,152 Here is your winner, Bodacious Bart! 417 00:17:42,974 --> 00:17:44,804 Yeah, 'cause-- Well, actually, we had to get in the car 418 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:47,106 'cause we stayed in the same room that night. 419 00:17:47,153 --> 00:17:50,163 It was a little quiet, little awkward. 420 00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:52,249 I think we might even have had a match or something 421 00:17:52,288 --> 00:17:56,378 the next day together. You know, as a tag team. 422 00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:58,733 Vince McMahon can't keep his finger out of anything so, 423 00:17:58,773 --> 00:18:00,083 even something that's supposed to be a 424 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:02,602 legitimate shoot, he probably said to himself, 425 00:18:02,646 --> 00:18:04,126 " As long as they're really fighting, 426 00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:06,870 we can play with the matchmaking all we want." 427 00:18:06,911 --> 00:18:08,171 People have talked about - 428 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:09,647 they've had the Dr. Death theory - 429 00:18:09,697 --> 00:18:12,607 that this was skewed to Dr. Death, 430 00:18:12,656 --> 00:18:14,346 putting him in there with a one-eyed guy. 431 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:16,267 No, it wasn't. 432 00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:19,012 Carl Ouelett. Had sight in one eye. 433 00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:20,884 Should he have been in Brawl For All? Hell, no. 434 00:18:20,925 --> 00:18:24,145 What are we thinking? He's blind in one eye. 435 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,020 I don't even remember who the first injury was. 436 00:18:26,061 --> 00:18:29,201 Was the first of several. It was one after the other. 437 00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:33,628 That's where my bicep and-- torn thighs and torn ACLs. 438 00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:35,717 It was like it was jinxed. 439 00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:38,596 Vince could have pulled the plug on this any time 440 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:41,339 he wanted to, but he chose not to. 441 00:18:41,381 --> 00:18:44,861 It didn't take but one week of TV to convince me that 442 00:18:44,906 --> 00:18:47,166 this thing has shit the bed. 443 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:50,393 I dreaded having another night of Brawl For All matches 444 00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:52,833 'cause you never who was gonna get hurt tonight 445 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:54,790 because it seems to be inevitable... 446 00:18:54,829 --> 00:18:57,139 and enough is enough. 447 00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,789 The Brawl For All tournament is already on the rocks, 448 00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:02,324 but through the chaos, an unlikely hero 449 00:19:02,358 --> 00:19:09,318 is set to emerge. 450 00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:12,325 When I was in the 9th grade, I weighed 89 lbs. 451 00:19:12,368 --> 00:19:17,238 I was the shortest kid in class so, I got picked on constantly. 452 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:20,026 They slap you in the head. They push ya. They trip ya. 453 00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:21,991 Knock your books out of your hands. 454 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:24,340 And then I got older, grew up, 455 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:26,250 got a little bigger, and then I kind of went back and 456 00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:27,635 everybody that kinda picked on me, 457 00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:29,208 I went back and paid them a visit. 458 00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:31,165 Let 'em know what it was like. 459 00:19:31,213 --> 00:19:32,693 ♪ 460 00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:35,216 After an awkward victory over his tag team partner 461 00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:37,351 in the first round of the Brawl For All, 462 00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:40,223 Bart Gunn awaits his next opponent. 463 00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,826 Well, what happened was, Bruce calls me up. 464 00:19:42,877 --> 00:19:44,917 He says, "Oh, Bart, just calling to let you know 465 00:19:44,966 --> 00:19:46,616 you're gonna be fighting Dr. Death." 466 00:19:46,663 --> 00:19:48,713 I go, "Really?" He says, "Yeah." 467 00:19:48,752 --> 00:19:50,712 I said, "Oh, so, you changed your brackets around?" 468 00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:53,244 And I go, "Well, Bruce, why don't you guys leave it 469 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:55,059 like it is and save us for the end?" 470 00:19:55,106 --> 00:19:56,796 I said, "You know, I'd be more than happy to work with 471 00:19:56,847 --> 00:19:59,807 you guys 'cause everybody knows you guys want him to win." 472 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:01,680 He goes, "No, no, we got all the faith in the world 473 00:20:01,722 --> 00:20:03,112 in Dr. Death." 474 00:20:03,158 --> 00:20:04,638 That tells me right there it was designed for him. 475 00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:06,251 Absolutely. I already knew that because 476 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:09,162 any time they actually advertised the Brawl For All, 477 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:11,988 they talked about Steve. And I said, "Okay." 478 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:14,206 I said, "Well, let me ask you this: Am I gonna 479 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,256 get heat with you guys when I beat him?" 480 00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:17,612 He goes, "Oh, no, no, no! 481 00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:19,701 We got all the confidence in the world in him." 482 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:21,440 Now, Bruce, at that time, 483 00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:24,221 had known Doc for a long time, just like we all had. 484 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:26,526 And, I think kinda giggled and said, "Sure, yeah. 485 00:20:26,573 --> 00:20:28,493 Ha-ha-ha, knock out Dr. Death." 486 00:20:28,531 --> 00:20:29,921 When they said that it kinda made me feel like 487 00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:32,187 now they're already putting him with me now, 488 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,671 maybe they don't have any confidence in me and 489 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,150 I'm just a nobody. 490 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,190 Well, why wouldn't you have confidence in Dr. Death? 491 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:38,666 Is that a sin? 492 00:20:38,715 --> 00:20:41,015 He was a fucking four-time all-American in wrestling... 493 00:20:41,065 --> 00:20:44,455 In Division One. They don't give that stuff away. 494 00:20:44,504 --> 00:20:45,854 Soon as I walked in the door, 495 00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:48,116 Pat Patterson, he walked right up to me. He says, 496 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:50,989 "Oh, so, you're gonna knock out Dr. Death, are ya?" 497 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:53,162 And at that time, I was just furious. 498 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:55,728 It just boiled my blood 'cause they nagged at me 499 00:20:55,776 --> 00:20:56,906 all day long. They said, 500 00:20:56,951 --> 00:20:58,081 "Oh, yeah, you're gonna knock him out. 501 00:20:58,126 --> 00:20:59,206 You're gonna knock him out." 502 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:00,868 I go get something to eat or... 503 00:21:00,911 --> 00:21:02,741 anywhere in the hall, somebody would have 504 00:21:02,783 --> 00:21:05,353 something smartass to say. They're all back there, 505 00:21:05,394 --> 00:21:07,794 they got their little clans and yacking. 506 00:21:07,831 --> 00:21:11,141 So, just kept it all bottled up all day long. 507 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:12,972 When that match came on, 508 00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:15,490 it was standing room only at those monitors. 509 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:19,495 It became very, very, very real. 510 00:21:19,539 --> 00:21:21,319 As both men head to the ring, 511 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:24,067 Dr. Death is the overwhelming favourite. 512 00:21:24,108 --> 00:21:26,328 At that time, I was so furious 'cause of what 513 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:28,642 everybody in the office was saying. 514 00:21:28,678 --> 00:21:30,378 And I was more tunnel vision. 515 00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:31,899 I wasn't seeing it any other way. 516 00:21:31,942 --> 00:21:33,342 I was gonna go out and beat him. 517 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:36,079 Stood there toe-to-toe, just thinking in my mind, 518 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,820 "Okay, this is it. This is what I'm gonna have to do." 519 00:21:39,863 --> 00:21:42,433 The stakes are high in this match up in the Brawl For All. 520 00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:44,385 [Bart] He took me down. 521 00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:46,873 I was kind of surprised at that. 522 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:49,184 But then, at some point, Bart switched up 523 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:51,270 his game plan and took Doc down. 524 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,050 - Uh-oh! - [cheering] 525 00:21:54,095 --> 00:21:55,835 He was like halfway out of the ropes and he was like, 526 00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:59,139 "Damn, brother." And then I just said, "Sorry. 527 00:21:59,187 --> 00:22:00,487 What do you want me to do? It's a shoot." 528 00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:02,666 It's not like we're out there working. 529 00:22:02,712 --> 00:22:05,672 Then, at some point, Doc tore his hamstring. 530 00:22:05,715 --> 00:22:08,275 [Announcer] ...get him down. That's a takedown! 531 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,547 And now, suddenly, Dr. Death Steve Williams has become a 532 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:13,940 300-pound one-legged man in an ass kicking contest 533 00:22:13,984 --> 00:22:16,034 where you need to be mobile. 534 00:22:16,073 --> 00:22:17,553 [Bart] You know, right there at the end, 535 00:22:17,597 --> 00:22:18,987 you know, as I caught him a couple times, 536 00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:20,303 he was staggering. 537 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,339 And I thought, man, he's fixing to go down. 538 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,465 And then it happened: boom, boom, boom! 539 00:22:25,518 --> 00:22:26,868 [cheering] 540 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:30,090 The big left hand by Bart Gunn clocked the Doctor! 541 00:22:30,131 --> 00:22:31,651 And down goes Doc. 542 00:22:31,698 --> 00:22:35,618 He's out, cold, you know. And I was like, holy shit. 543 00:22:35,658 --> 00:22:39,048 And my heart sunk, and I got a bad feeling in my stomach 544 00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:43,406 because I knew here went Dr. Death's WWF career. 545 00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:45,799 Dr. Death's injuries are so severe, 546 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:48,852 he's forced to undergo a lengthy rehabilitation. 547 00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:52,409 But the damage to his reputation proves far worse. 548 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:56,548 Within a year, he'd be out of the WWF entirely. 549 00:22:56,592 --> 00:22:58,422 There comes Russo walking down the hallway. 550 00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:00,034 I said, "Are you happy? 551 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:03,254 You just cost a company $5 million in one night." 552 00:23:03,294 --> 00:23:05,564 And he looked at me like, "What are you talking about?" 553 00:23:05,601 --> 00:23:09,171 I said, "You idiot! Dr. Death Steve Williams just got beat 554 00:23:09,213 --> 00:23:11,563 on live television in front of everybody!" 555 00:23:11,607 --> 00:23:12,697 "What difference does it make? 556 00:23:12,739 --> 00:23:14,389 Bart Gunn's gonna be a star now." 557 00:23:14,436 --> 00:23:16,046 I said, "I want to kill you! 558 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:18,440 I would like to just squeeze you until your britches 559 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:21,364 are full and your eyeballs pop out!" 560 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,140 Dr. Death, I'm sure we could have done a lot with him, 561 00:23:24,185 --> 00:23:26,485 but it's not like he was coming in at his peak, 562 00:23:26,535 --> 00:23:28,275 or his prime, or on his way up. 563 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,319 It's probably fair to say his best years in wrestling 564 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:32,586 were behind him. 565 00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:34,328 But, no doubt about it, you know, 566 00:23:34,369 --> 00:23:38,199 that injury definitely cut his career short. 567 00:23:38,242 --> 00:23:40,202 Kinda quiet when I went back. 568 00:23:40,244 --> 00:23:43,164 Management didn't say anything to me. 569 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,164 I had all the heat on me then 570 00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:47,556 'cause I just knocked out JR's boy. 571 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,340 This whole Dr. Death element in the Brawl For All has been 572 00:23:50,385 --> 00:23:53,555 so grossly overthought that it has embarrassed me 573 00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:56,036 about some of my peers and some of my friends 574 00:23:56,086 --> 00:23:58,216 that actually believe there's another story, 575 00:23:58,262 --> 00:24:00,262 there's this covert action that's going on. 576 00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:02,568 We'll never really know the answer. 577 00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:04,915 Come on. Grow up. 578 00:24:04,965 --> 00:24:07,095 ♪ 579 00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:09,191 I didn't really see anybody from the office after that. 580 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:10,930 So, it's kinda like, you know, 581 00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:12,581 you guys were picking at me and, 582 00:24:12,625 --> 00:24:14,885 you know, I did what I was gonna do. 583 00:24:14,931 --> 00:24:17,281 Bart secures his place in the semi-finals 584 00:24:17,325 --> 00:24:19,495 where The Godfather awaits. 585 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:25,545 In the other match, Droz takes on Bradshaw. 586 00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:28,344 Fucking back of the head, you cocksucker. 587 00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:31,119 That's Bradshaw for you. Dirty bastard. 588 00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:37,479 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. 589 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,829 I'm sure I reminded him a couple times. 590 00:24:39,869 --> 00:24:42,999 Should have gotten fricking points for a takedown there. 591 00:24:43,046 --> 00:24:45,436 That was a takedown under any rule, 592 00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:47,404 screwy or not, that was a takedown. 593 00:24:47,442 --> 00:24:49,102 How would you call this one, JR? Who do you think? 594 00:24:49,139 --> 00:24:51,269 Well, it's close. Very close in my book. 595 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,395 I'm on Droz's side here. 596 00:24:53,448 --> 00:24:56,838 [Announcer] Here's your winner... Bradshaw! 597 00:24:56,886 --> 00:24:59,316 Boo! I cry bullshit. 598 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:02,237 Now I'm gonna be bitter for the next couple days, man. 599 00:25:02,283 --> 00:25:05,113 You guys got me bitter. I got tears in my eyes. 600 00:25:05,155 --> 00:25:08,325 I'm like fired up, like, shit. 601 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:11,246 And that had me wondering, of course, 602 00:25:11,292 --> 00:25:13,602 I don't know if the people upstairs, 603 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:15,642 if they wanted me to fight Bart at the time. 604 00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:17,558 And, I still think that it was, 605 00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:20,303 you know, that I won the fight, but... 606 00:25:20,344 --> 00:25:23,224 Bradshaw didn't go around bragging 'cause he knew. 607 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:26,260 I so badly wanted Bradshaw to get his ass kicked. 608 00:25:26,307 --> 00:25:29,137 That's all I cared about because he was so cocky, 609 00:25:29,179 --> 00:25:32,229 he was confident when he made the remark. 610 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:35,189 He couldn't back out of it now because I would be 611 00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:37,189 the first one to say, "Wait a minute. Whoa!" 612 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,541 I just wanted to see him get his clock cleaned. 613 00:25:39,581 --> 00:25:41,281 I'm being honest. 614 00:25:41,322 --> 00:25:43,452 With only one fight left before the final, 615 00:25:43,498 --> 00:25:46,198 it's up to Bart Gunn or The Godfather 616 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,070 to keep Bradshaw from having the last word. 617 00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:56,122 ♪ 618 00:25:56,163 --> 00:25:58,383 Working at this club, right here, in the 90s... 619 00:25:58,426 --> 00:26:01,256 And I was the manager from 5 o'clock in the morning 620 00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:04,478 to 1 in the afternoon... And I hated pimps. 621 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:08,389 And I would say, "If there's any pimps behind this bar, 622 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,346 they better not be here in the next 5 minutes 'cause 623 00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,615 I will knock you off your bar stool." 624 00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:16,269 And, I swear to you, I would walk behind the bar, 625 00:26:16,313 --> 00:26:19,713 pimp was sitting there, just crack him as hard as I could. 626 00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:22,062 And they'd start running. But, yeah, man, 627 00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:23,932 I used to be able to knock people out 628 00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:26,373 by slapping them in their face. 629 00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:29,500 The Godfather's second round victory over 2 Cold Scorpio 630 00:26:29,544 --> 00:26:31,764 advances him to the final four. 631 00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:36,067 He's just two wins away from claiming the $75,000 prize. 632 00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:40,986 Standing in his way is tournament underdog, Bart Gunn. 633 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:43,694 Well, this is gonna be a tough fight 'cause he's big. 634 00:26:43,732 --> 00:26:46,082 Then I'm watching him like shadow box and stuff, 635 00:26:46,126 --> 00:26:49,216 and I go, "Wow, he's got boxing skills, too." 636 00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:52,439 I went into that fight way over confident. 637 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,740 Had I been smoking all day? 638 00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:55,876 Yeah, but I smoke all day all the time. 639 00:26:55,918 --> 00:26:58,048 Just before I fought Bart, he says, 640 00:26:58,094 --> 00:27:00,584 "I'm gonna knock you out." And I'm like, 641 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:02,619 "Yeah, okay. Good luck." 642 00:27:06,189 --> 00:27:08,189 Hit him. Don't let him take me down. 643 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:11,585 [Bart] Stone cold face. Okay. Psyche myself up. 644 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,150 Gonna come out throwing leathers. 645 00:27:13,196 --> 00:27:15,676 And here we go. This is gonna be a slug fest, JR. 646 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:16,981 You know, we were punching. 647 00:27:17,026 --> 00:27:19,546 I think he kinda caught me once pretty good. 648 00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:21,944 I was like, wow, that kinda stung a little bit. 649 00:27:21,988 --> 00:27:25,298 And somewhere in there, he hit me with something that 650 00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:28,209 knocked me to the ground, and I remember going 651 00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:30,945 back to the corner saying, "I don't have my legs. 652 00:27:30,997 --> 00:27:34,127 I don't have my legs. I don't have my legs." 653 00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:38,094 Every single person was at the monitor and 654 00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:39,704 nobody could believe it. 655 00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:41,265 Bart looking for the left hand, 656 00:27:41,311 --> 00:27:43,751 but it's a right hand! 657 00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:46,842 It's a right hand! And The Godfather is down. 658 00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:47,882 [match bell ringing] 659 00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:49,317 He is out cold! 660 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:51,713 His head hit the ropes, or come real close to it, 661 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:54,057 kinda went out of the ring and kinda hanging there. 662 00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:56,407 It's like, wow, I hope he's okay. 663 00:27:56,457 --> 00:27:59,677 I mean, the reputation of The Godfather and, 664 00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:01,771 you know, Bart being under the radar, 665 00:28:01,810 --> 00:28:06,290 I mean... unbelievable. 666 00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:08,556 My wife was really upset 'cause she was 667 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,519 counting on that money. She was not happy about it. 668 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,479 She blamed it on me smoking. And I'm like, "Yeah..." 669 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:17,958 I didn't give Bart the amount of respect that I should have. 670 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,880 This is, this is a few days after that fight. 671 00:28:22,918 --> 00:28:25,268 I was fucked up. I couldn't walk. 672 00:28:25,312 --> 00:28:26,752 I had to get in a wheel chair. 673 00:28:26,792 --> 00:28:30,012 My leg got infected. I got this cut out. 674 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:31,706 Oh, whoo! 675 00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:34,193 Maybe that was the stupidest idea in wrestling, 676 00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:37,244 right there, 'cause a lot of people did get hurt. 677 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,370 The injuries were a big, big deal. 678 00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:41,463 Here's what it meant: it meant taking guys off the line. 679 00:28:41,502 --> 00:28:43,202 They were sitting at home, they couldn't work. 680 00:28:43,243 --> 00:28:45,463 They couldn't earn... And that cost the company money 681 00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:47,286 because they weren't able to be productive. 682 00:28:47,334 --> 00:28:48,814 It wasn't a good thing. 683 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:52,247 How morally and intellectually bankrupt and 684 00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:56,035 irresponsible do you have to be to create a situation 685 00:28:56,082 --> 00:28:59,392 where your stars get legitimately injured just to 686 00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,913 get even with a wrestler who was bragging about 687 00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,917 how tough he was in the locker room? 688 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:05,829 He can't be feeling good about getting 689 00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:08,754 in the ring with Bart, man. There's no way. 690 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,790 That point, that was like the finals. 691 00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:13,266 There was only one more left and that was Bradshaw. 692 00:29:13,316 --> 00:29:15,706 After a rollercoaster two months of combat, 693 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:18,284 the Brawl For All final is set. 694 00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:23,461 A one-time long shot against the man who inspired it all. 695 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:27,070 Both men have trained very diligently for this contest. 696 00:29:27,113 --> 00:29:29,943 Come out. Just a couple punches. 697 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:31,285 Caught him... 698 00:29:31,334 --> 00:29:35,734 [Announcer] Oh! Unbelievable! Golly! 699 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,784 It's like, wow, it's over. 700 00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:39,819 Then he got back up. I was like, whoo! 701 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:41,555 [Announcer] Okay. Let's go. 702 00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:43,035 Well, this may not last much longer-- 703 00:29:43,085 --> 00:29:46,255 Oh! There it is. Oh, my god! 704 00:29:46,306 --> 00:29:48,086 [match bell ringing] 705 00:29:48,134 --> 00:29:50,574 Oh! Bart Gunn! 706 00:29:50,614 --> 00:29:53,884 There's your winner! Bart Gunn! 707 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:56,322 Take a look at the guy that has just made a 708 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,489 name for himself in this business and earned it... 709 00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:02,406 Oh, my. Good night. 710 00:30:02,452 --> 00:30:04,322 Man, he even had the jittery legs. 711 00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:07,147 Did you see the jumpy legs? Just the... 712 00:30:07,196 --> 00:30:10,546 the smelling salt ain't doing nothing to him. 713 00:30:10,591 --> 00:30:13,331 When Bradshaw got knocked out it was scary because 714 00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:15,286 his eyes, obviously, weren't there and 715 00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:17,115 he twitched a little bit, and you could tell 716 00:30:17,163 --> 00:30:20,563 he wasn't home even awhile afterwards. 717 00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,601 When I saw Bradshaw get knocked out, 718 00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,166 I could not hold back those emotions. 719 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:26,873 Like, I'm sorry. This whole tournament 720 00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:29,612 was because of him and his mouth, 721 00:30:29,653 --> 00:30:33,573 and there he was laying on the canvas, unconscious. 722 00:30:33,614 --> 00:30:36,184 Bro, what-- You know the old saying, don't-- 723 00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:39,745 never ask for... how does that go? 724 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:41,624 You get what you ask for or... 725 00:30:41,665 --> 00:30:43,015 you know what I mean. 726 00:30:43,058 --> 00:30:45,318 He didn't understand even then what he had done! 727 00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:46,795 To this day... 728 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:49,455 the fucking moron doesn't understand what he's done. 729 00:30:49,499 --> 00:30:52,329 I believe he sabotaged the talent, 730 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:54,162 the integrity of the business, 731 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,160 got people legitimately hurt, 732 00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:58,732 and killed a future superstar, 733 00:30:58,769 --> 00:31:00,989 and doesn't realize he did anything wrong. 734 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:04,213 There, in a nutshell, you have the skid mark 735 00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:09,173 on the underwear of life that is Vince Russo. 736 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:12,905 I'm 57 years old. Jim Cornette is my age. 737 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:16,268 When is this ever going to stop? 738 00:31:16,309 --> 00:31:18,529 Cornette believed in the steak of the business. 739 00:31:18,572 --> 00:31:20,972 Russo more of the sizzle of the business... 740 00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:23,269 And therein they have a tremendous 741 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:25,446 controversy and conflict. 742 00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:27,932 They'll never be on the same page... 743 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,193 in my lifetime. 744 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:32,235 Jim Cornette leaves a message on 745 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:36,021 my answering machine, threatening to kill me, 746 00:31:36,068 --> 00:31:38,458 threatening to kill my entire family. 747 00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:39,935 I said, "I'd just like to tell you, 748 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,025 you no good piece of shit, you motherfucker... 749 00:31:43,075 --> 00:31:45,895 what a piece of shit you are and how you narrowly escaped 750 00:31:45,947 --> 00:31:47,777 getting put in a fucking hospital by me with a 751 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:50,338 goddamn baseball bat for all you've done to me and 752 00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:52,166 my friends, and the careers you've ruined, 753 00:31:52,214 --> 00:31:54,004 and the shitty wrestling that you produced. 754 00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,522 And I just wanted to make sure that you knew that 755 00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,045 from my own lips!" 756 00:31:57,089 --> 00:31:59,269 And I'm just like, "Bro, this is wrestling. 757 00:31:59,308 --> 00:32:01,348 Like, are you serious? 758 00:32:01,397 --> 00:32:05,097 Like, you're gonna kill me over professional wrestling?" 759 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:06,750 [mocking tone] "Why is he doing this to me? 760 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:09,884 Just over wrestling? Just over wrestling?" 761 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:11,968 That's what it's always been because he just-- 762 00:32:12,017 --> 00:32:13,667 "I can't believe that he would do this to me 763 00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:15,414 just over wrestling!" 764 00:32:15,455 --> 00:32:19,015 When wrestling has been the most important thing in my life. 765 00:32:19,067 --> 00:32:22,767 ♪ 766 00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:25,990 With the disastrous Brawl For All finally over, 767 00:32:26,031 --> 00:32:29,471 Bart Gunn has proven to be the toughest guy in the locker room. 768 00:32:29,512 --> 00:32:31,782 And he was ready to jump start his career, 769 00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:39,219 but he was in for a brutal awakening. 770 00:32:39,261 --> 00:32:41,871 ♪ 771 00:32:41,916 --> 00:32:43,866 Well, there here are the gloves that they gave me 772 00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:45,398 for winning the Brawl For All. 773 00:32:45,441 --> 00:32:47,921 It is my privilege and honor to present you 774 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:49,966 with these golden boxing gloves. 775 00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:53,973 It was great. I said, 776 00:32:54,015 --> 00:32:56,015 "Man, I'm finally gonna get a great push." 777 00:32:56,061 --> 00:32:58,411 Jim Ross comes up, talks to me. 778 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:00,724 He says, "Hey, to be honest, we didn't think anybody 779 00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:03,111 could take Steve off his feet." He goes, "I guess 780 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,025 we should 'a did our homework on you a little better." 781 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,680 And I said, "Well, probably so. 782 00:33:06,723 --> 00:33:08,863 You know, I tried to work with you guys, and..." 783 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:10,509 And, and he says, "Well, I just want you to know 784 00:33:10,553 --> 00:33:11,993 there's no hard feelings." 785 00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:13,433 And I think as soon as he said that, 786 00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:16,599 I thought, wow, I do got some heat. 787 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:19,036 After his victory in the Brawl For All, 788 00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:21,964 Bart Gunn is awaiting his big career push. 789 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960 The WWF are now faced with the problem of what to do 790 00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:29,274 with a wrestler they didn't expect to win. 791 00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:31,491 It was always the plan that whoever would win the 792 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:33,881 Brawl For All would get a big promotional push. 793 00:33:33,924 --> 00:33:36,584 When it was Bart, the wind kind of came out of those sails. 794 00:33:36,623 --> 00:33:39,063 I'm not knocking Bart Gunn. Great athlete. 795 00:33:39,104 --> 00:33:41,544 Good wrestler. Good guy. 796 00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:43,464 But, the way he had been presented for the 797 00:33:43,499 --> 00:33:47,069 previous 5 years was at a level here. Not here. 798 00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:51,732 Examine the facts. Nobody got over. 799 00:33:51,768 --> 00:33:53,898 Not one son of a bitch that fought in that 800 00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:57,214 Brawl For All got over. End of story. 801 00:33:57,252 --> 00:33:58,822 They send me home 802 00:33:58,862 --> 00:34:00,432 and now they don't know what to do with me. 803 00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,263 Vince Russo called me up and he said, 804 00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:04,831 "Bart," he said, "we don't really know what type of 805 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:06,908 a story line gimmick to put you in." 806 00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:10,657 I kind of sat home for a long time not doing anything. 807 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:13,750 The longer I sat at home, the more frustrating it was. 808 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:16,580 They let him twist in the wind for a little while and then, 809 00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:18,189 of course, Vince McMahon got the idea 'cause 810 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:20,100 it's a gimmick: "Butterbean! 811 00:34:20,145 --> 00:34:22,315 Let's have him fight Butterbean at WrestleMania" 812 00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:26,064 ♪ 813 00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:28,367 Well, my understanding is, when Bart knocked out 814 00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,554 Dr. Death, Vince got pissed. 815 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:32,810 So, they called me in for his punishment. 816 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:34,383 [Jim Ross] Butterbean's an overachiever. 817 00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:36,900 You know, he's got that bald head and he's very white. 818 00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:39,124 He looks like some sort of appliance. 819 00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:41,694 But, boy, does he hit. Oh, my god. 820 00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:44,471 Eric Esch, a.k.a., Butterbean, 821 00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:47,647 is a 300-pound professional prize fighter 822 00:34:47,694 --> 00:34:50,744 with more than 50 wins under his belt. 823 00:34:50,784 --> 00:34:54,054 What he lacks in technique, he more than makes up for 824 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,182 with raw hitting power. 825 00:34:56,224 --> 00:34:59,494 So, at some point, it was suggested Butterbean and 826 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:02,622 Bart have a boxing match because Butterbean 827 00:35:02,665 --> 00:35:05,225 was a great personality, great for wrestling. 828 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:07,667 I think it was presented to me and, 829 00:35:07,714 --> 00:35:09,504 I said, you know, I was like, "Ah, you know... 830 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,502 I don't, you know... sure, I guess." 831 00:35:11,544 --> 00:35:12,634 You know, 'cause I was sitting at home. 832 00:35:12,675 --> 00:35:13,975 I was tired of sitting at home. 833 00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:15,504 And they said, "Hey, we're gonna send you to a, 834 00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:16,938 to a boxing school." 835 00:35:16,984 --> 00:35:19,034 You know, and they started teaching me how to box. 836 00:35:19,073 --> 00:35:21,863 The crossover match serves as both the promotional push 837 00:35:21,902 --> 00:35:23,992 Bart has been waiting for... 838 00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:27,044 and a chance for the WWF to cash in on 839 00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:29,521 Butterbean's mainstream popularity. 840 00:35:29,562 --> 00:35:33,172 The man that will face Butterbean, Bart Gunn. 841 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:35,698 Well, JR, you know, I'm not training just to beat him. 842 00:35:35,742 --> 00:35:37,222 I'm training to knock him out. 843 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:41,135 Me, Butterbean, and Gillberg, we were chilling. 844 00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:42,662 I think me and Gill were smoking. 845 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:45,225 Butterbean wasn't smoking. And we were talking about it. 846 00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:47,323 Butterbean, he told me, he said, 847 00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:49,282 "Listen, I've already told Vince," he goes, 848 00:35:49,321 --> 00:35:52,021 "You guys are tough guys, I give you that, okay. 849 00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:54,722 But you're not professional fighters. 850 00:35:54,761 --> 00:35:57,201 I will beat that kid in seconds. 851 00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,942 It's 2 different sports. He has no chance against me." 852 00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:02,384 You know, Vince kind of smiled at me 853 00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:03,861 when I went into the ring. He knew that, 854 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,210 that it was over for Bart. 855 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,950 He knew that I was gonna knock him out and 856 00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:08,860 he wanted me to knock him out. 857 00:36:08,905 --> 00:36:10,855 Walking into WrestleMania was kinda like 858 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:13,207 no experience I've ever had up to that point. 859 00:36:13,258 --> 00:36:14,998 This place was huge. 860 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:17,962 On March 28, 1999, 861 00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:21,221 the WWF resurrects The Brawl For All concept 862 00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:24,786 on their largest stage, WrestleMania XV. 863 00:36:24,834 --> 00:36:26,454 A talented amateur can't stand up 864 00:36:26,488 --> 00:36:28,658 next to a professional in any field. 865 00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:31,148 So, there was no reason to believe that even though 866 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,449 Bart was a great looking athlete and Butterbean was a 867 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:36,796 big, fat, round baked potato with arms and legs... 868 00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:38,806 Butterbean was a trained and 869 00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:41,498 experienced professional boxer. 870 00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:44,067 I didn't feel the same as I felt with the other fights 871 00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:45,554 'cause I'm different now. 872 00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:49,564 I'm a boxer now and I got this other persona. 873 00:36:49,598 --> 00:36:51,558 Here we go, round one, Brawl For All. 874 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,210 Butterbean and Bart Gunn. 875 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:56,524 I remember being in the crowd. Something was off. 876 00:36:56,562 --> 00:37:00,262 This wasn't the guy that I saw knock out The Godfather and 877 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:02,605 the guy that I saw knock out Bradshaw. 878 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:05,265 This wasn't one of those fights. 879 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,790 Now I'm out there as a green boxer trying like, 880 00:37:07,834 --> 00:37:09,184 okay, hold my hands like this. 881 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:10,747 Hold my feet like this. 882 00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:12,533 When Bart tried to box, I said, "This is it. 883 00:37:12,578 --> 00:37:14,448 I got him now." So, I just went and charged and 884 00:37:14,493 --> 00:37:16,583 give him a couple good shots, put him to the mat. 885 00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:17,885 And then, when I went to the corner, 886 00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:19,321 I'm like, man, I hope he don't get up 'cause 887 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:21,277 it's gonna be bad if he does 'cause he's... 888 00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:22,886 he's wobbling. 889 00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:24,496 When Vinny let the fight go on, I'm going, 890 00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:26,806 oh, Vinny, you don't need to do that. He's out of it. 891 00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:28,903 So, I just gave him one last good right hand. 892 00:37:28,942 --> 00:37:32,472 Oh! Goodbye! It's over. 893 00:37:32,511 --> 00:37:34,991 His head actually turned around backwards. 894 00:37:35,035 --> 00:37:36,465 Yeah, you know, when I got home my kids 895 00:37:36,515 --> 00:37:37,985 come home from school and they were a little upset. 896 00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:42,088 They go, "Dad, my friends told me you killed a guy on TV! 897 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:44,779 You killed Bart Gunn!" I said, "He's not dead. 898 00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:46,307 He just looked like it." 899 00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:49,141 I'll be honest, he would have had a 50/50 chance 900 00:37:49,179 --> 00:37:52,269 if he went out and brawled like he did with the other guys. 901 00:37:52,313 --> 00:37:54,233 But with me, he actually tried to box, 902 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:55,582 which was stupid. 903 00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:58,321 Very disappointed. Very, very mad at myself. 904 00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:02,113 You know, just... wasn't happy at all. 905 00:38:02,149 --> 00:38:04,409 After WrestleMania, I knew I was done. 906 00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:07,326 There wasn't a future left there for me at all. 907 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:08,552 It was the end. 908 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:10,380 That was the end there for me in the States. 909 00:38:10,418 --> 00:38:16,818 ♪ 910 00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:19,429 Wow. Lot of old stuff here. 911 00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:26,913 I don't know if I want that on air, but... 912 00:38:26,956 --> 00:38:32,656 [laughing] Um... 913 00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:34,181 I just never watched it. 914 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:37,104 I was mad at myself that I made some mistakes. 915 00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:39,230 But, it always stuck in the back of my mind, 916 00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:42,103 and then I saw - when I was in Japan - Butterbean. 917 00:38:42,145 --> 00:38:43,925 I saw he was over there. He's doing MMA. 918 00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:45,763 I thought, wow, this is interesting 'cause 919 00:38:45,801 --> 00:38:47,851 I always wanted to get a second chance. 920 00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:50,760 And then I said, you know, I'm gonna do MMA. 921 00:38:50,806 --> 00:38:54,066 And I got a fight with Wesley Cabbage... 922 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:55,994 and Butterbean fought him. 923 00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:59,209 Butterbean beat him in like the second or third round. 924 00:38:59,249 --> 00:39:01,599 Went over there, my very first MMA first and 925 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:03,523 stopped it in the first round. So, I said, 926 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,908 I beat this guy quicker than Butterbean beat him. 927 00:39:05,952 --> 00:39:07,692 One night, like on a Tuesday night, said, 928 00:39:07,736 --> 00:39:09,556 "Hey, we got you a match with Butterbean." 929 00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:10,868 "Oh, really? Great!" 930 00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:12,923 Said, "Yeah, we want you to come fight Friday." 931 00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:15,479 That's like in four days. I said, "No, no, no, no, no." 932 00:39:15,527 --> 00:39:17,307 'Cause I've learned from my mistakes. Says, 933 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,005 "If you're gonna set up a match with me and Butterbean, 934 00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:20,452 I want 12 weeks to train for it." 935 00:39:20,488 --> 00:39:22,658 So, that didn't happen. Could 'a turned out 936 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:24,228 the same thing, he could 'a beat me again. 937 00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:27,764 But, I would 'a got to do it a little bit better, my way. 938 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,850 This may sound crazy to a lot of people, 939 00:39:29,889 --> 00:39:31,499 but that's just kind of the way I'm driven. 940 00:39:31,543 --> 00:39:34,423 And then, kind of time passed and then I just had 941 00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:36,159 some things happen in my life and after that I was 942 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,849 kind of done with the whole fighting thing 943 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:40,027 and then I didn't do any more. 944 00:39:40,073 --> 00:39:43,213 I miss being at the curtain and going through the curtain, 945 00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:44,770 and out, and performing. 946 00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:46,427 You know, you got the excitement and the crowd, 947 00:39:46,471 --> 00:39:48,081 the adrenaline and rush. 948 00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:49,344 Me going to work every day, 949 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:51,127 there's not an adrenaline rush there anymore. 950 00:39:51,171 --> 00:39:53,431 But I enjoy sleeping in my bed every night and, 951 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,738 you know, sitting and having my dinner at the house. 952 00:39:55,784 --> 00:39:58,964 You get tired of eating out, you know, all your meals. 953 00:39:59,005 --> 00:40:01,785 You know, seven days a week. So... 954 00:40:05,315 --> 00:40:09,355 Droz's career in the WWF would continue for another year 955 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:12,757 until a tragic accident changed his life forever. 956 00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:17,111 No problem, man. 957 00:40:20,548 --> 00:40:22,718 You know, I really had no clue. 958 00:40:22,768 --> 00:40:24,418 And, the funny part is 959 00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:26,245 I was actually gonna win that match. 960 00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:28,083 You know, I didn't get a lot of wins. 961 00:40:28,121 --> 00:40:30,691 Droz was wrestling D'Lo Brown one night. 962 00:40:30,732 --> 00:40:34,132 And, D'Lo was very smooth, accomplished wrestler. 963 00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:36,000 We were just gonna do a power bomb, 964 00:40:36,042 --> 00:40:39,222 and he had power bombed me before. 965 00:40:39,262 --> 00:40:42,352 When he picked me up, I don't know if I slipped or what. 966 00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:45,006 I have this-- These memories are... 967 00:40:45,051 --> 00:40:49,881 seared in my brain perfectly... which stinks. 968 00:40:49,925 --> 00:40:52,485 Pulled him up and we didn't go. 969 00:40:52,537 --> 00:40:54,187 And we just fell forward. 970 00:40:54,234 --> 00:40:56,634 I remember going back down, I'm like, this isn't right. 971 00:40:56,671 --> 00:40:58,241 I couldn't get my hands down really. 972 00:40:58,281 --> 00:41:00,851 And I just remember hearing crack-crack. 973 00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:03,813 And I just went, oh, fuck, I just broke my neck. 974 00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:06,462 I said, "Stop messing with me. Are you okay?" 975 00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:10,077 "I can't move." 976 00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:11,859 One of the cardinal rules is you're supposed to 977 00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:14,474 leave the ring the same way you went into it. 978 00:41:14,515 --> 00:41:16,555 And I remember crying next to him telling him I was sorry. 979 00:41:16,604 --> 00:41:18,564 "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It should never happen." 980 00:41:18,606 --> 00:41:20,256 Droz is going, "It's okay, dog. It's okay. 981 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:21,783 It's okay. It's okay." 982 00:41:21,827 --> 00:41:24,087 Nothing we could have done would have changed, you know. 983 00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,443 It just happens. So, but he... 984 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:28,924 he's a good guy, man. I still wish him-- 985 00:41:28,964 --> 00:41:30,844 I wished him the best last time I saw him. 986 00:41:30,879 --> 00:41:32,789 Neither of us - we've talked about it - 987 00:41:32,838 --> 00:41:34,398 we don't know what happened. 988 00:41:34,448 --> 00:41:36,318 Neither has blamed the other. 989 00:41:36,363 --> 00:41:39,503 It's one of those unfortunate accidents that happened. 990 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,720 Bottom line is I'm here. Still alive and still kicking. 991 00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:44,811 Well, not kicking, really, but... [laughing] 992 00:41:44,850 --> 00:41:47,810 Can't kick, but I still get to go out. I hunt. 993 00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:50,683 You know, I do all the things that I can do. 994 00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:53,595 It's just, you know, you learn to do things differently. 995 00:41:53,641 --> 00:41:55,211 Droz is still paralyzed to this day. 996 00:41:55,251 --> 00:41:56,951 It's been more than 20 years. 997 00:41:56,992 --> 00:42:00,522 Things happen, you know, in, in this business. 998 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,171 And it's not ballet. And that's why it, 999 00:42:03,216 --> 00:42:07,956 it especially angers me when people diminish it. 1000 00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:09,443 One move... 1001 00:42:09,483 --> 00:42:11,623 he's been in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. 1002 00:42:11,659 --> 00:42:14,439 So, don't tell me that wrestling is a bunch of bullshit. 1003 00:42:14,488 --> 00:42:16,578 Just, some of the ways that people that have 1004 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:19,151 gotten into it treat it, is bullshit. 1005 00:42:19,188 --> 00:42:21,668 ♪ 1006 00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:23,723 I feel bad. 1007 00:42:23,758 --> 00:42:26,588 Because, I don't want to see anybody get hit like that, man. 1008 00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,281 Oh, my god. 1009 00:42:28,328 --> 00:42:30,898 Especially now with just all the stuff we know about 1010 00:42:30,939 --> 00:42:34,329 head trauma and everything, man. 1011 00:42:34,377 --> 00:42:39,597 Oh, man. Ugh! 1012 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:41,434 Oof. 1013 00:42:41,471 --> 00:42:43,001 I really should have been thinking, 1014 00:42:43,038 --> 00:42:45,608 man, these guys are out of their element. 1015 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:47,610 With what we know about concussions today, 1016 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:49,872 just knowing all that today, 1017 00:42:49,915 --> 00:42:51,435 which we didn't know back then, 1018 00:42:51,481 --> 00:42:55,441 no way, no way would I ever propose it again. 1019 00:42:55,485 --> 00:42:56,835 I think the Brawl For All should be remembered 1020 00:42:56,878 --> 00:43:00,398 for what it was, a cluster. It sucked. 1021 00:43:00,447 --> 00:43:03,407 There's no reason to embrace it. 1022 00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:06,410 It was simply a bad idea that featured a lot of guys 1023 00:43:06,453 --> 00:43:08,723 looking to get a rub in a new event. 1024 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,980 That's what it was developed to do: create some new stars. 1025 00:43:12,024 --> 00:43:14,644 New rubs. New opportunities. 1026 00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:17,159 And it just didn't do it. 1027 00:43:17,203 --> 00:43:19,603 The Brawl For All remains the only prize fighting 1028 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,730 tournament to be put on by the WWE. 1029 00:43:22,774 --> 00:43:24,694 What could have been a career defining moment 1030 00:43:24,732 --> 00:43:28,212 for its champion, instead became a stark reminder 1031 00:43:28,257 --> 00:43:32,647 how wrestling's winners are ays chosen in the boardroom. 1032 00:43:32,697 --> 00:43:35,437 Bruce has said that the Brawl For All is the, quote, 1033 00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:38,622 absolute worst idea in the history of the business. 1034 00:43:38,659 --> 00:43:40,139 I agree with that. But, 1035 00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:42,922 they're the ones that put it on. 1036 00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:47,408 So... explain that one. Ha. 1037 00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:49,800 I think they should learn from their mistakes and 1038 00:43:49,844 --> 00:43:52,374 probably should never do it again. 1039 00:43:52,412 --> 00:43:54,592 Should just kinda let it disappear. 1040 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:58,812 ♪ 83960

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