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That film. 1337 01:10:11,395 --> 01:10:15,099 Because it brought them to a mass audience. 1338 01:10:15,132 --> 01:10:17,401 ♪ Wild thing 1339 01:10:17,434 --> 01:10:20,370 But the Grateful Dead were never really comfortable 1340 01:10:20,404 --> 01:10:22,006 with being in front of the camera. 1341 01:10:25,075 --> 01:10:26,576 For them, you know, 1342 01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:29,146 the meta-narrative of the Grateful Dead was that, 1343 01:10:29,179 --> 01:10:32,616 we're like you, we're freaks. 1344 01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:35,585 You know, we're not lookin' for a job. 1345 01:10:35,619 --> 01:10:38,155 We're not lookin' for a career. 1346 01:10:38,188 --> 01:10:40,190 We're not sure what we're fuckin' looking for. 1347 01:10:40,224 --> 01:10:43,693 In fact, we're not even sure if we're looking for anything. 1348 01:10:43,727 --> 01:10:46,530 In fact, we don't even know where we are. 1349 01:10:46,563 --> 01:10:48,065 Who are we? 1350 01:10:48,098 --> 01:10:50,600 We're the same as you. 1351 01:10:50,634 --> 01:10:52,069 You're the same as us. 1352 01:10:52,102 --> 01:10:54,271 There is no real distinction. 1353 01:10:56,073 --> 01:10:57,641 Six, take one. Tail slate. 1354 01:10:59,809 --> 01:11:03,013 Cutler: The camera validates that distinction. 1355 01:11:03,047 --> 01:11:04,748 Doesn't it? You know what I mean? 1356 01:11:04,781 --> 01:11:06,150 The camera's filming you, you know. 1357 01:11:06,183 --> 01:11:07,293 The camera's filming you, why? 1358 01:11:07,317 --> 01:11:08,752 Because you're more important 1359 01:11:08,785 --> 01:11:10,363 than anything else that it could film, you know. 1360 01:11:10,387 --> 01:11:13,690 And it's like this probing kind of eye. 1361 01:11:13,723 --> 01:11:15,692 Ha, you rat. 1362 01:11:15,725 --> 01:11:18,262 I mean, it took me 18 months to get the Grateful Dead 1363 01:11:18,295 --> 01:11:20,230 to agree to do a photograph. 1364 01:11:20,264 --> 01:11:22,799 Well, that is the gentleman who's taking a photograph. 1365 01:11:22,832 --> 01:11:25,235 There's the camera, here. 1366 01:11:29,639 --> 01:11:32,042 I kept saying to them, "Listen, we need a photograph. 1367 01:11:32,076 --> 01:11:34,411 "If we're going to do publicity for the Grateful Dead, 1368 01:11:34,444 --> 01:11:36,780 we need photographs of the Grateful Dead." 1369 01:11:36,813 --> 01:11:38,691 Garcia: Where's the fucking hotel at? Let's go to the hotel. 1370 01:11:38,715 --> 01:11:40,617 "No, we don't do photographs." 1371 01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:42,419 We're trying to do a group photo. 1372 01:11:42,452 --> 01:11:44,421 But, why don't you do photographs? 1373 01:11:44,454 --> 01:11:46,656 "Well, it's not important what we look like. 1374 01:11:46,690 --> 01:11:48,125 What's important is the music." 1375 01:11:49,826 --> 01:11:51,328 Hey! Fuck off! 1376 01:11:51,361 --> 01:11:53,530 Cutler: Trying to promote a band 1377 01:11:53,563 --> 01:11:55,832 that doesn't want to be filmed 1378 01:11:55,865 --> 01:11:59,203 or have their picture taken is very difficult. 1379 01:12:00,337 --> 01:12:03,573 Nice to see you today. 1380 01:12:03,607 --> 01:12:05,809 Cutler: And the people that were sent to film them 1381 01:12:05,842 --> 01:12:07,411 weren't the right people, were they? 1382 01:12:07,444 --> 01:12:09,779 Care for a beer? 1383 01:12:09,813 --> 01:12:11,781 Nobody had told them or warned them, 1384 01:12:11,815 --> 01:12:16,520 don't drink anything around the Grateful Dead. 1385 01:12:16,553 --> 01:12:18,155 Okay, cut. 1386 01:12:22,826 --> 01:12:25,795 Garcia: I remember that there was the Playboy After Hours show. 1387 01:12:25,829 --> 01:12:27,364 Cutler: In this time period, 1388 01:12:27,397 --> 01:12:30,100 the Grateful Dead were using LSD 1389 01:12:30,134 --> 01:12:31,601 not only to get high, 1390 01:12:31,635 --> 01:12:34,804 but also as a kind of defense mechanism. 1391 01:12:34,838 --> 01:12:37,574 I mean, giving people LSD when they didn't know that 1392 01:12:37,607 --> 01:12:40,544 that was what was gonna happen to 'em. 1393 01:12:40,577 --> 01:12:43,447 Garcia: The whole thing was just really weird, you know? 1394 01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:46,383 All the people who were at the party are extras, you know, 1395 01:12:46,416 --> 01:12:47,784 and they're from Central Casting. 1396 01:12:47,817 --> 01:12:49,419 You know, and they're sitting there 1397 01:12:49,453 --> 01:12:51,131 with glasses of ginger ale and all, you know. 1398 01:12:51,155 --> 01:12:52,398 It's laid out like an apartment, 1399 01:12:52,422 --> 01:12:53,890 but it's in a Hollywood sound stage. 1400 01:12:53,923 --> 01:12:55,525 And there's Hugh Hefner, you know, 1401 01:12:55,559 --> 01:12:57,227 and all these melons. 1402 01:12:57,261 --> 01:13:00,530 And, the union coffee pot there got dosed. 1403 01:13:00,564 --> 01:13:02,542 And the whole thing turned from an artificial party 1404 01:13:02,566 --> 01:13:03,633 into an authentic party. 1405 01:13:11,408 --> 01:13:16,146 I remember they had dosed the coffee with acid. 1406 01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:18,215 ♪ Wishing well with a golden bell ♪ 1407 01:13:18,248 --> 01:13:20,784 ♪ Bucket hanging clear to hell 1408 01:13:20,817 --> 01:13:23,453 Smith: That night, I went over to see them. 1409 01:13:23,487 --> 01:13:25,722 ♪ Stephen fill it up and lower ♪ 1410 01:13:25,755 --> 01:13:27,300 Smith: And they were on a break upstairs, 1411 01:13:27,324 --> 01:13:29,226 and I came up the stairs and there they were. 1412 01:13:29,259 --> 01:13:30,660 And Jerry gave me a hug. 1413 01:13:30,694 --> 01:13:32,162 "How ya doin'? What's goin' on? 1414 01:13:32,196 --> 01:13:33,797 I'll get you some coffee." 1415 01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:36,166 I said, "No, no, no, no." 1416 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:42,539 ♪ Speeding arrow, sharp and narrow ♪ 1417 01:13:42,572 --> 01:13:44,874 You see the situation we had. 1418 01:13:44,908 --> 01:13:47,911 I mean, their idea of it was all fun. 1419 01:13:47,944 --> 01:13:50,547 And that's what the Dead were. 1420 01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:53,183 - Lev: Fun. - Fun. 1421 01:13:59,823 --> 01:14:03,927 Weir: Holy Jesus. Wow. 1422 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,664 Cutler: The word on Garcia's lips for four years with me was, 1423 01:14:07,697 --> 01:14:09,566 "Is it gonna be fun?" 1424 01:14:09,599 --> 01:14:11,401 Weir: Okay, this is London. 1425 01:14:11,435 --> 01:14:13,313 Cutler: I mean, the Grateful Dead were about fun. 1426 01:14:13,337 --> 01:14:16,740 Weir: This has never been seen. I don't know why. 1427 01:14:16,773 --> 01:14:18,208 Roll camera. 1428 01:14:18,242 --> 01:14:19,809 - "A" camera. - "A" camera. 1429 01:14:19,843 --> 01:14:24,414 And then we'll be on our way to Philadelphia. 1430 01:14:24,448 --> 01:14:26,592 Cutler: I mean, you can sit there and, yeah, we're makin' a film. 1431 01:14:26,616 --> 01:14:30,320 But the film's you know, next week, next year, who knows what. 1432 01:14:30,354 --> 01:14:32,589 But this is now. 1433 01:14:32,622 --> 01:14:34,358 Nice to see you today. 1434 01:14:34,391 --> 01:14:35,901 Cutler: They said, so you wanna make a film? 1435 01:14:35,925 --> 01:14:37,861 Fine, you know, we'll go for that. 1436 01:14:37,894 --> 01:14:39,529 Care for a beer? 1437 01:14:39,563 --> 01:14:41,298 Meanwhile, let's see if you can handle this 1438 01:14:41,331 --> 01:14:43,233 while it's all goin' on, 'cause we can. 1439 01:14:43,267 --> 01:14:45,435 This is what we like to do. So good luck. 1440 01:14:45,469 --> 01:14:47,537 - Man: We need a director. - Okay, cut. 1441 01:14:47,571 --> 01:14:49,439 Man: Forty-nine. Take one. Head slate. 1442 01:14:49,473 --> 01:14:51,775 This is the Grateful Dead. 1443 01:14:51,808 --> 01:14:53,410 Cutler: So the film crew 1444 01:14:53,443 --> 01:14:55,279 slowly came under 1445 01:14:55,312 --> 01:14:56,980 the influence of psychedelics. 1446 01:14:57,013 --> 01:14:58,715 Announcer: The Grateful Dead. 1447 01:14:58,748 --> 01:15:01,885 Man: Did you get that? What's happened? 1448 01:15:07,324 --> 01:15:09,593 ♪ Driving that train 1449 01:15:09,626 --> 01:15:11,895 ♪ High on cocaine 1450 01:15:11,928 --> 01:15:14,764 ♪ Casey Jones you better 1451 01:15:14,798 --> 01:15:17,401 ♪ Watch your speed 1452 01:15:17,434 --> 01:15:19,903 ♪ Trouble ahead 1453 01:15:19,936 --> 01:15:22,506 ♪ Trouble behind 1454 01:15:22,539 --> 01:15:27,444 ♪ And you know that notion just crossed my mind ♪ 1455 01:15:28,912 --> 01:15:31,315 Cutler: They start off with a very formal idea 1456 01:15:31,348 --> 01:15:33,483 of what you do to film a band, 1457 01:15:33,517 --> 01:15:37,487 and slowly it got weirder and weirder. 1458 01:15:37,521 --> 01:15:41,024 It's not easy, you know, to take a trip and sit there going, 1459 01:15:41,057 --> 01:15:42,759 "Now, I'm making a film here, 1460 01:15:42,792 --> 01:15:46,296 and I must ensure that I get everything in focus." 1461 01:15:46,330 --> 01:15:48,298 All that tends to go out the window. 1462 01:15:48,332 --> 01:15:50,467 Man: Here's roll two. Sound, roll two. 1463 01:15:53,570 --> 01:15:55,372 They just succumbed. 1464 01:15:55,405 --> 01:15:58,508 They didn't have sufficient psychedelic experience 1465 01:15:58,542 --> 01:16:02,045 to overcome the effect of the acid 1466 01:16:02,078 --> 01:16:04,581 and, you know, make a film. 1467 01:16:04,614 --> 01:16:08,051 Garcia: The thing I'm talking about is being able to handle 1468 01:16:08,084 --> 01:16:11,087 the environment that you're operating in when you're high. 1469 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,090 Which is, like, a weird place to be, 1470 01:16:14,123 --> 01:16:15,892 and it takes a while to get into it. 1471 01:16:15,925 --> 01:16:17,394 Cutler: Jerry was of the opinion 1472 01:16:17,427 --> 01:16:19,663 that if people get high around your scene 1473 01:16:19,696 --> 01:16:21,731 then, you know, they need to be looked after. 1474 01:16:21,765 --> 01:16:23,976 Man: Jerry, we haven't got a director. We need a director. 1475 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,869 Garcia: I'll tell you what it is. 1476 01:16:25,902 --> 01:16:28,372 It's the fact that these trucks are on either side of us, 1477 01:16:28,405 --> 01:16:31,375 making it seem as though the horizon were quite high. 1478 01:16:31,408 --> 01:16:33,343 It's kind of like being in a valley. 1479 01:16:33,377 --> 01:16:36,580 And the human response to being in a valley is to think 1480 01:16:36,613 --> 01:16:38,615 of "we're cornered." 1481 01:16:38,648 --> 01:16:40,817 But we're not really. It's only an illusion 1482 01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:42,552 because of these trucks. 1483 01:16:42,586 --> 01:16:44,488 And if you step out to where you can get 1484 01:16:44,521 --> 01:16:46,466 a little bit of air around you so the horizon is kind of, 1485 01:16:46,490 --> 01:16:47,833 like, below the center of your vision, 1486 01:16:47,857 --> 01:16:49,659 you'll feel much better. 1487 01:16:49,693 --> 01:16:52,095 Yeah, yeah. 1488 01:16:52,128 --> 01:16:54,364 Cutler: He was directing these people 1489 01:16:54,398 --> 01:16:56,400 to how they could have a better time. 1490 01:16:56,433 --> 01:16:59,068 That's it, man. That's all I know. 1491 01:16:59,102 --> 01:17:03,473 Cutler: And I think that was the protective armor at work. 1492 01:17:03,507 --> 01:17:06,410 Garcia sabotaged the film, in essence. 1493 01:17:06,443 --> 01:17:08,645 Hey, you guys can... You also must remember 1494 01:17:08,678 --> 01:17:13,750 that at any moment you can put down your equipment and split. 1495 01:17:13,783 --> 01:17:17,020 Cutler: And, in the end, the crew started to film themselves 1496 01:17:17,053 --> 01:17:19,389 instead of the band. 1497 01:17:26,763 --> 01:17:28,932 One guy, I noticed him, 1498 01:17:28,965 --> 01:17:31,100 it was like he was shootin' a gun. 1499 01:17:31,134 --> 01:17:33,002 He kept on triggering the camera, 1500 01:17:33,036 --> 01:17:36,973 It was like little shots. Boom, boom, boom. 1501 01:17:37,006 --> 01:17:38,908 In fact, if you give acid to people 1502 01:17:38,942 --> 01:17:41,845 and you ask them to paint or do creative things, 1503 01:17:41,878 --> 01:17:45,982 they mostly produce absolute chaos. 1504 01:17:46,015 --> 01:17:47,684 Are you getting emotional again? 1505 01:17:49,819 --> 01:17:51,187 The synapses or whatever 1506 01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:55,124 are suddenly speeded up, massively so. 1507 01:17:55,158 --> 01:17:57,527 And so, all of the sudden you can see a connection between 1508 01:17:57,561 --> 01:17:59,138 what's immediately in front of your eyes, 1509 01:17:59,162 --> 01:18:01,030 and something else that wasn't apparent. 1510 01:18:02,732 --> 01:18:06,636 What was hitherto coherent becomes incoherent. 1511 01:18:06,670 --> 01:18:08,805 They know that they're trying to make a film, 1512 01:18:08,838 --> 01:18:12,008 but now, what's going on in their heads is, like, 1513 01:18:12,041 --> 01:18:15,712 super fast episodic shit, you know? 1514 01:18:15,745 --> 01:18:17,747 Like, it's this, it's that; it's this, it's that; 1515 01:18:17,781 --> 01:18:18,982 it's this, it's that. 1516 01:18:19,015 --> 01:18:21,017 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, 1517 01:18:21,050 --> 01:18:23,553 boom, boom. 1518 01:18:23,587 --> 01:18:25,755 And then, it just disintegrates. 1519 01:18:32,195 --> 01:18:36,065 It's interesting, isn't it, to look back on it, you know? 1520 01:18:36,099 --> 01:18:38,602 How far out the Grateful Dead actually were 1521 01:18:38,635 --> 01:18:40,737 at that stage in their journey. 1522 01:18:43,673 --> 01:18:45,775 I mean, that was their sacred space. 1523 01:18:45,809 --> 01:18:48,778 Music for the Grateful Dead was a very sacred thing, 1524 01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:50,780 you know what I mean? 1525 01:18:50,814 --> 01:18:53,216 Not to be interfered with by me 1526 01:18:53,249 --> 01:18:55,919 or anybody else for that matter. 1527 01:18:57,754 --> 01:18:59,789 Garcia: Sure man, that's what playing is about. 1528 01:18:59,823 --> 01:19:01,701 That's what performing is about for us, you know? 1529 01:19:01,725 --> 01:19:04,027 See, music should be that sort of thing. 1530 01:19:04,060 --> 01:19:06,730 Music should be holy. It shouldn't be business. 1531 01:19:09,098 --> 01:19:11,735 And because music is business here, 1532 01:19:11,768 --> 01:19:13,703 it's awful, 1533 01:19:13,737 --> 01:19:15,238 'cause it's designed to make money, 1534 01:19:15,271 --> 01:19:17,641 not designed to do what music's supposed to do. 1535 01:19:20,544 --> 01:19:22,746 Cutler: So, in the end, the film never happened. 1536 01:19:26,816 --> 01:19:29,853 The remains get boxed up and forgotten about. 1537 01:19:32,756 --> 01:19:35,692 It's almost like a subliminal desire 1538 01:19:35,725 --> 01:19:37,627 not to be successful, 1539 01:19:37,661 --> 01:19:41,097 which actually redounded to their benefit and credit. 1540 01:19:43,633 --> 01:19:47,003 They worried that, you know, the more famous they were, 1541 01:19:47,036 --> 01:19:49,272 the less room for movement they would have. 1542 01:19:51,908 --> 01:19:53,242 And they were dead right. 1543 01:20:10,863 --> 01:20:12,865 Prankster: It's almost working. 1544 01:20:12,898 --> 01:20:15,167 I think that it is now working. 1545 01:20:19,138 --> 01:20:23,208 Prankster: Yay! We're back on the air again. 1546 01:20:23,242 --> 01:20:25,044 Woo-woo! 1547 01:20:27,913 --> 01:20:32,117 And, Gunther, your child is at the child care kiddie center. 1548 01:20:32,151 --> 01:20:34,053 Your child's name is Carl, Gunther, 1549 01:20:34,086 --> 01:20:35,554 if you've forgotten about him. 1550 01:20:37,923 --> 01:20:41,560 All little kiddies that are hurt and sick and lost, 1551 01:20:41,593 --> 01:20:44,830 over to the kiddie corral for their gathering. 1552 01:20:44,864 --> 01:20:47,900 Here he is now with the report on the... our water situation, 1553 01:20:47,933 --> 01:20:50,402 uh, which has become very dry in the area, 1554 01:20:50,435 --> 01:20:53,472 with probably another three hours to go with the intensity. 1555 01:20:53,505 --> 01:20:56,075 So there's gonna be, uh, according to his report, 1556 01:20:56,108 --> 01:20:57,309 as they get it going, 1557 01:20:57,342 --> 01:20:59,111 a fire truck will move slowly along there, 1558 01:20:59,144 --> 01:21:00,846 and spray out from its nozzle. 1559 01:21:13,092 --> 01:21:14,860 So here you go, the Grateful Dead. 1560 01:21:31,944 --> 01:21:35,514 Dennis McNally: Jerry regarded every day 1561 01:21:35,547 --> 01:21:38,317 that he didn't have to go out and find a job 1562 01:21:38,350 --> 01:21:40,285 as a miracle. 1563 01:21:42,187 --> 01:21:46,458 And as they looked up in the early '70s, 1564 01:21:46,491 --> 01:21:50,329 the Grateful Dead were kind of mildly amazed 1565 01:21:50,362 --> 01:21:52,397 that they had an audience. 1566 01:21:52,431 --> 01:21:55,134 That it had grown. 1567 01:21:55,167 --> 01:22:00,239 And they found that if they just kept touring, 1568 01:22:00,272 --> 01:22:02,007 they could make a living. 1569 01:22:02,041 --> 01:22:05,277 It wasn't a fancy living, it was just a living. 1570 01:22:07,179 --> 01:22:09,982 ♪ All I know is something 1571 01:22:10,015 --> 01:22:14,119 ♪ Like a bird within her sang ♪ 1572 01:22:20,325 --> 01:22:22,928 ♪ All I know she sang 1573 01:22:22,962 --> 01:22:26,966 ♪ A little while and then flew on ♪ 1574 01:22:33,105 --> 01:22:36,575 ♪ Tell me all that you know ♪ 1575 01:22:36,608 --> 01:22:39,511 ♪ I'll show you 1576 01:22:39,544 --> 01:22:42,381 ♪ Snow and rain 1577 01:22:44,616 --> 01:22:45,693 Phil Lesh: I think that one of the best things 1578 01:22:45,717 --> 01:22:48,153 the Grateful Dead ever did 1579 01:22:48,187 --> 01:22:54,126 was deciding in essence that we weren't gonna become recording artists. 1580 01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:58,230 You know, that we weren't gonna be pop stars. 1581 01:22:58,263 --> 01:23:02,467 I really don't believe any of us ever gave a shit about that. 1582 01:23:02,501 --> 01:23:04,603 We were a working band and we were gonna... 1583 01:23:04,636 --> 01:23:07,506 We're gonna... we're gonna go out and bring this to people, 1584 01:23:07,539 --> 01:23:10,976 bring this music to people, and bring 'em together. 1585 01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:13,712 I think that, uh... That kind of freed us up 1586 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,582 to not be afraid to make a mistake. 1587 01:23:25,390 --> 01:23:28,293 Jerry Garcia: We make an effort to... to play honestly, 1588 01:23:28,327 --> 01:23:31,163 rather than put on a... Some sort of packaged, uh, 1589 01:23:31,196 --> 01:23:33,532 pre-arranged, pre-determined show. 1590 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,436 We don't bring a set list on stage. 1591 01:23:37,469 --> 01:23:39,638 We don't plan things. 1592 01:23:39,671 --> 01:23:41,040 We want it to be more dynamic. 1593 01:23:41,073 --> 01:23:42,083 We want it to be more exciting. 1594 01:23:42,107 --> 01:23:43,408 We want it to be unexpected. 1595 01:23:43,442 --> 01:23:45,577 We want there to be surprises there. 1596 01:23:45,610 --> 01:23:48,580 We want the people to feel they're participating in it, you know? 1597 01:23:48,613 --> 01:23:52,351 And it... If you approach music from that point of view, 1598 01:23:52,384 --> 01:23:55,054 it becomes a very rich experience. 1599 01:24:03,828 --> 01:24:05,764 Dennis McNally: Committing to improvisation... 1600 01:24:05,797 --> 01:24:09,168 Wholly committing to improvisation... 1601 01:24:09,201 --> 01:24:11,770 Implies taking risks. 1602 01:24:14,573 --> 01:24:18,777 It's a philosophy of leaving yourself open to possibility, 1603 01:24:18,810 --> 01:24:20,745 and leaving yourself open to magic. 1604 01:24:28,153 --> 01:24:29,821 Donna Jean Godchaux: My husband and I, 1605 01:24:29,854 --> 01:24:33,725 we had been seeing the Grateful Dead whenever we could. 1606 01:24:33,758 --> 01:24:36,461 Total fans. 1607 01:24:36,495 --> 01:24:42,234 I was a singer and Keith was a trained classical pianist. 1608 01:24:44,269 --> 01:24:46,371 I came home one day and said, 1609 01:24:46,405 --> 01:24:49,674 "Let's listen to the Grateful Dead." 1610 01:24:49,708 --> 01:24:51,243 And Keith said, 1611 01:24:51,276 --> 01:24:54,546 "I don't wanna listen to it anymore. 1612 01:24:54,579 --> 01:24:56,848 "I want to play it." 1613 01:24:56,881 --> 01:24:59,251 He had never played rock and roll before. 1614 01:25:01,486 --> 01:25:03,288 And I said, 1615 01:25:03,322 --> 01:25:06,791 "Okay, well, let's go get in the band." 1616 01:25:10,462 --> 01:25:11,830 I mean, it was as simple as that. 1617 01:25:11,863 --> 01:25:13,798 That sounds so... 1618 01:25:13,832 --> 01:25:15,310 I don't know what it sounds like to you, 1619 01:25:15,334 --> 01:25:19,438 but at that time it was just normal. 1620 01:25:19,471 --> 01:25:21,773 And that's why I had the audacity 1621 01:25:21,806 --> 01:25:24,543 to come up to Garcia after a show and say, 1622 01:25:24,576 --> 01:25:26,411 "Keith is your next keyboard player." 1623 01:25:27,746 --> 01:25:29,281 ♪ Some folks trust to reason ♪ 1624 01:25:29,314 --> 01:25:30,549 ♪ Others trust to might 1625 01:25:30,582 --> 01:25:31,759 Donna Jean Godchaux: Just like that. 1626 01:25:31,783 --> 01:25:33,318 ♪ I don't trust to nothing 1627 01:25:33,352 --> 01:25:34,729 Donna Jean Godchaux: Keith was in the band. 1628 01:25:34,753 --> 01:25:35,896 ♪ But I know... Let's do it again. 1629 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,856 One more time. 1630 01:25:37,889 --> 01:25:39,334 Jerry Garcia: Donna. Where's Donna? Where's Donna? 1631 01:25:39,358 --> 01:25:41,193 - Come here. - We're gonna do... 1632 01:25:41,226 --> 01:25:43,195 We're gonna do "Playin' in The Band" again. 1633 01:25:43,228 --> 01:25:45,140 Donna Jean Godchaux: And then I started rehearsing with them, 1634 01:25:45,164 --> 01:25:48,333 and it was just like unreal. 1635 01:25:48,367 --> 01:25:50,302 I was getting to be a part of it. 1636 01:25:56,341 --> 01:26:00,645 I mean, I would go anywhere to see these guys, 1637 01:26:00,679 --> 01:26:03,748 and yet, I am singing with this band. 1638 01:26:03,782 --> 01:26:09,754 ♪ Oh-oh, yeah 1639 01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:16,628 ♪ Playin' 1640 01:26:16,661 --> 01:26:19,398 ♪ Playin' in the band 1641 01:26:19,431 --> 01:26:21,300 ♪ Daybreak 1642 01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,269 ♪ Daybreak on the land 1643 01:26:24,303 --> 01:26:26,338 ♪ Playin' 1644 01:26:26,371 --> 01:26:28,273 ♪ Playin' in the band 1645 01:26:28,307 --> 01:26:29,908 ♪ Daybreak 1646 01:26:29,941 --> 01:26:33,678 Donna Jean Godchaux: You know, to this day, I marvel 1647 01:26:33,712 --> 01:26:37,349 that it can be that inclusive. 1648 01:26:38,483 --> 01:26:40,519 ♪ Daybreak 1649 01:26:40,552 --> 01:26:42,754 ♪ Wanna play in the band 1650 01:26:44,856 --> 01:26:47,526 Donna Jean Godchaux: We're all playing in the band, 1651 01:26:47,559 --> 01:26:49,628 all of us. 1652 01:26:49,661 --> 01:26:51,830 If you were in the audience, 1653 01:26:51,863 --> 01:26:56,501 you were included in the experience. 1654 01:26:56,535 --> 01:26:58,537 You know, I'm a fan, 1655 01:26:58,570 --> 01:27:02,541 and now, I have the best seat in the house. 1656 01:27:03,975 --> 01:27:07,346 It was a magical thing, that's all I can say. 1657 01:27:09,348 --> 01:27:11,416 Steve Parish: Being a fan of the band, 1658 01:27:11,450 --> 01:27:15,554 which I was originally before I even started working for 'em, 1659 01:27:15,587 --> 01:27:19,758 I represent a guy who crossed over the barrier 1660 01:27:19,791 --> 01:27:24,329 into that world, into the heart of it. 1661 01:27:25,730 --> 01:27:27,932 There was no other band like the Grateful Dead, 1662 01:27:27,966 --> 01:27:32,337 and there was no other crew like the Grateful Dead's equipment crew. 1663 01:27:33,638 --> 01:27:35,540 We all slept with the same women. 1664 01:27:35,574 --> 01:27:38,610 We all got messed up together. 1665 01:27:38,643 --> 01:27:41,713 We knew everything about each other. 1666 01:27:41,746 --> 01:27:44,849 It was not a normal relationship 1667 01:27:44,883 --> 01:27:46,751 between a band and a crew. 1668 01:27:46,785 --> 01:27:50,822 You ever watch the movie "Air Force"? 1669 01:27:50,855 --> 01:27:53,592 You know, World War II, 1670 01:27:53,625 --> 01:27:56,361 and they would always show these bombers, 1671 01:27:56,395 --> 01:27:57,796 and the guys would be in the bomber, 1672 01:27:57,829 --> 01:27:59,331 and there was a guy from Brooklyn, 1673 01:27:59,364 --> 01:28:00,865 and there was a guy from Montana, 1674 01:28:00,899 --> 01:28:04,469 and there was a guy from Chicago. 1675 01:28:04,503 --> 01:28:05,770 That's how it was, kind of. 1676 01:28:08,006 --> 01:28:10,809 They were really what you would call the wild bunch, 1677 01:28:10,842 --> 01:28:13,312 they were older than me. 1678 01:28:13,345 --> 01:28:15,480 Sparky, Kidd, 1679 01:28:15,514 --> 01:28:19,784 there was Jackson and Ramrod, and Johnny Hagen. 1680 01:28:19,818 --> 01:28:22,721 These guys were real cowboys. 1681 01:28:24,723 --> 01:28:27,492 Jackson was quick with his fists. 1682 01:28:27,526 --> 01:28:32,464 He had this sense about him where he would knock a cop out. 1683 01:28:32,497 --> 01:28:36,735 And Ramrod, he never read a book in his life. 1684 01:28:36,768 --> 01:28:39,971 He told me he read two pages of "Tom Sawyer." 1685 01:28:40,004 --> 01:28:43,642 I would literally read to him, you know, and he liked that. 1686 01:28:46,511 --> 01:28:50,849 When Jackson and Ramrod told me how they had met in reform school, 1687 01:28:50,882 --> 01:28:52,551 I realized that I had 1688 01:28:52,584 --> 01:28:55,320 a common brotherhood of wildness with these guys. 1689 01:28:55,354 --> 01:28:58,823 They were the country version of the city boy that I was. 1690 01:29:15,006 --> 01:29:18,109 Steve Parish: We began to embrace this lifestyle 1691 01:29:18,142 --> 01:29:20,845 of all for one and one for all. 1692 01:29:23,682 --> 01:29:27,852 We always had that feeling in the Grateful Dead, 1693 01:29:27,886 --> 01:29:31,590 mostly emanating out of Jerry, and all of the guys, 1694 01:29:31,623 --> 01:29:34,493 that we were intricately a part of it, 1695 01:29:34,526 --> 01:29:38,730 helping them get down the road and to create the music. 1696 01:29:38,763 --> 01:29:42,567 ♪ I can't stay much longer, Melinda ♪ 1697 01:29:42,601 --> 01:29:46,738 ♪ The sun is getting high 1698 01:29:46,771 --> 01:29:50,542 ♪ I can't help you with your trouble ♪ 1699 01:29:50,575 --> 01:29:55,380 ♪ If you won't help with mine ♪ 1700 01:29:55,414 --> 01:29:57,449 ♪ I gotta get down 1701 01:29:57,482 --> 01:29:59,050 ♪ I gotta get down 1702 01:29:59,083 --> 01:30:01,420 ♪ I gotta get down to 1703 01:30:01,453 --> 01:30:04,956 ♪ To the mine 1704 01:30:06,825 --> 01:30:08,102 Sam Cutler: The Grateful Dead's equipment crew 1705 01:30:08,126 --> 01:30:11,630 were famously, um... belligerent. 1706 01:30:13,565 --> 01:30:16,768 But, I mean... 1707 01:30:16,801 --> 01:30:19,704 we always got on well. 1708 01:30:19,738 --> 01:30:21,973 I didn't stand any bullshit. 1709 01:30:22,006 --> 01:30:25,109 Nobody stood any bullshit from anyone. 1710 01:30:25,143 --> 01:30:26,711 They were expected to, you know, 1711 01:30:26,745 --> 01:30:29,047 work like dogs and they did. 1712 01:30:38,823 --> 01:30:42,427 Steve Parish: To have this opportunity to work with this band, 1713 01:30:42,461 --> 01:30:44,563 to do this thing, 1714 01:30:44,596 --> 01:30:47,666 you realize that you were caught up in something 1715 01:30:47,699 --> 01:30:48,967 that was bigger than you. 1716 01:30:50,702 --> 01:30:52,112 When I was a kid, my father would say, 1717 01:30:52,136 --> 01:30:53,805 "Do I gotta hit you over the head 1718 01:30:53,838 --> 01:30:55,474 "with a bag of pennies every day 1719 01:30:55,507 --> 01:30:57,442 "to knock some sense into your head?" 1720 01:30:57,476 --> 01:30:59,544 I knew what he meant. 1721 01:30:59,578 --> 01:31:01,846 Because if you don't take that opportunity... 1722 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,615 If you don't take it and use it... 1723 01:31:03,648 --> 01:31:06,184 You're wasting something. 1724 01:31:06,217 --> 01:31:09,721 What does the skull with the lightening bolt represent? 1725 01:31:09,754 --> 01:31:13,892 It meant, bang, man, you got enlightenment. 1726 01:31:13,925 --> 01:31:17,128 And you're gonna use it to change the world. 1727 01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:23,001 We were exploring Europe. 1728 01:31:26,037 --> 01:31:28,840 We were going to all these amazing places 1729 01:31:28,873 --> 01:31:32,877 in the history of my life I couldn't believe. 1730 01:31:32,911 --> 01:31:36,180 And for me, as a kid coming from New York City, 1731 01:31:36,214 --> 01:31:38,216 this was incredible. 1732 01:31:38,249 --> 01:31:42,821 ♪ Gone are the days when the ox fall down ♪ 1733 01:31:42,854 --> 01:31:47,225 ♪ Take up the yoke and plow the fields around ♪ 1734 01:31:47,258 --> 01:31:51,863 ♪ Gone are the days when the ladies said please ♪ 1735 01:31:51,896 --> 01:31:55,767 ♪ Gentle Jack Jones won't you come to me ♪ 1736 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,870 Steve Parish: We were taking LSD every day. 1737 01:31:58,903 --> 01:32:02,674 And the LSD that Ramrod... God rest his soul... 1738 01:32:02,707 --> 01:32:05,076 Had mixed up, we only took one bottle 1739 01:32:05,109 --> 01:32:08,980 because we had to go through customs constantly. 1740 01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:11,550 That one bottle, he had made a mistake of, 1741 01:32:11,583 --> 01:32:15,920 and he didn't realize that it was ten times stronger than what we took at home. 1742 01:32:15,954 --> 01:32:21,693 And so it made for really an intense, intense psychedelic trip. 1743 01:32:21,726 --> 01:32:25,830 ♪ Brown-eyed women and red grenadine ♪ 1744 01:32:25,864 --> 01:32:30,602 ♪ The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean ♪ 1745 01:32:30,635 --> 01:32:34,906 ♪ Sound of the thunder with the rain pourin' down ♪ 1746 01:32:34,939 --> 01:32:39,911 ♪ And it looks like the old man's gettin' on ♪ 1747 01:32:39,944 --> 01:32:43,682 Magical stuff was constantly happening in '72. 1748 01:32:43,715 --> 01:32:45,617 Stuff that I... to this day... 1749 01:32:45,650 --> 01:32:48,152 I almost can't explain. 1750 01:32:48,186 --> 01:32:50,221 And they were pushing us into the light, 1751 01:32:50,254 --> 01:32:51,690 and the light was bright. 1752 01:32:57,095 --> 01:33:00,899 ♪ Well my mama told me, my papa told me too ♪ 1753 01:33:02,967 --> 01:33:06,938 ♪ Now my mama told me, papa told me too ♪ 1754 01:33:08,707 --> 01:33:10,174 ♪ Well I shouldn't be here 1755 01:33:10,208 --> 01:33:14,278 ♪ Tryin' to sing these railroad blues ♪ 1756 01:33:14,312 --> 01:33:15,780 Steve Parish: We spent all that time 1757 01:33:15,814 --> 01:33:17,816 on the buses together, laughing. 1758 01:33:17,849 --> 01:33:19,818 We brought our girlfriends, we brought kids, 1759 01:33:19,851 --> 01:33:21,753 we brought 50 people with us. 1760 01:33:26,057 --> 01:33:29,327 Before you came, I was all alone. 1761 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,696 It is bad to be alone. 1762 01:33:31,730 --> 01:33:35,900 Alone, bad. 1763 01:33:35,934 --> 01:33:37,969 Friend, good. 1764 01:33:38,002 --> 01:33:40,972 Man: We are friends, you and I. 1765 01:33:41,005 --> 01:33:42,373 Monster: Good. 1766 01:33:42,406 --> 01:33:44,342 - Friends. - Friends. 1767 01:33:47,211 --> 01:33:49,648 Joe Smith: They traveled in the phalanx. 1768 01:33:49,681 --> 01:33:53,284 Like a baby's soccer game, you know, the swarm. 1769 01:33:53,317 --> 01:33:58,222 Friends, wives, women nursing babies. 1770 01:33:58,256 --> 01:34:02,126 And it was how to get by on $50,000 a day in Europe. 1771 01:34:38,196 --> 01:34:42,667 Joe Smith: They'd have a truck there recording an album. 1772 01:34:42,701 --> 01:34:45,369 I said it's got to be a double album. 1773 01:34:45,403 --> 01:34:47,338 I got to get a shot to get back the money 1774 01:34:47,371 --> 01:34:49,908 you're spending on all this. 1775 01:34:49,941 --> 01:34:53,044 Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: One of the names that was considered for the album 1776 01:34:53,077 --> 01:34:56,080 was Back Home Broke... 1777 01:34:56,114 --> 01:34:58,116 'Cause it was true, you know, they had blown it. 1778 01:34:59,984 --> 01:35:01,419 Sam Cutler: Dennis Leonard, 1779 01:35:01,452 --> 01:35:04,455 Dennis "Wizard" Leonard, was a Deadhead 1780 01:35:04,488 --> 01:35:08,993 before joining the Grateful Dead on the Europe '72 tour, 1781 01:35:09,027 --> 01:35:12,330 and he was responsible for the recording of all the shows. 1782 01:35:12,363 --> 01:35:14,866 We recorded everything. 1783 01:35:14,899 --> 01:35:16,110 Because somehow or other, you know, 1784 01:35:16,134 --> 01:35:17,414 I mean, the bills had to be paid. 1785 01:35:20,138 --> 01:35:24,042 And so the Grateful Dead owed Warner Brothers a record. 1786 01:35:31,349 --> 01:35:34,152 Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: I sat in front of the multi-track. 1787 01:35:34,185 --> 01:35:38,189 MM 1000 Ampex machine. Gorgeous machine. 1788 01:35:38,222 --> 01:35:41,359 And, my world was this little truck 1789 01:35:41,392 --> 01:35:44,963 where I basically rode levels, watched the meters, 1790 01:35:44,996 --> 01:35:49,333 and essentially evaluated what they were doing. 1791 01:35:49,367 --> 01:35:53,504 If you look at the tape boxes, that's where I put my notes. 1792 01:35:53,537 --> 01:35:55,974 We had the star system. You know, like, 1793 01:35:56,007 --> 01:35:58,142 a star meant it was pretty good. 1794 01:35:58,176 --> 01:35:59,844 Two stars meant it was really good. 1795 01:35:59,878 --> 01:36:03,281 Three stars meant we thought it was stellar. 1796 01:36:03,314 --> 01:36:06,484 ♪ Sugar Magnolia, blossom's blooming ♪ 1797 01:36:06,517 --> 01:36:09,821 ♪ Head's all empty and I don't care ♪ 1798 01:36:09,854 --> 01:36:13,324 ♪ Saw my baby down by the river ♪ 1799 01:36:13,357 --> 01:36:17,128 ♪ Knew she'd have to come up soon for air ♪ 1800 01:36:17,161 --> 01:36:22,000 Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: So, it's the last night on the tour. 1801 01:36:22,033 --> 01:36:26,137 I'm stuck in the truck. Everybody was high as fuck. 1802 01:36:26,170 --> 01:36:28,139 No one else could be found. 1803 01:36:28,172 --> 01:36:32,176 And, you know, there was a problem with a microphone that, uh, 1804 01:36:32,210 --> 01:36:35,246 I talked to Parish about, and you know, 1805 01:36:35,279 --> 01:36:38,216 it just was, like, drooping on the stand, and I said, 1806 01:36:38,249 --> 01:36:41,953 "Can you put a coin in the screw slot and tighten it?" 1807 01:36:41,986 --> 01:36:44,455 And, you know, Steve was a piece of work back then. 1808 01:36:44,488 --> 01:36:48,359 He said, "Fuck you. Come out and fucking do it yourself." 1809 01:36:48,392 --> 01:36:51,462 Oh, jeez, so, you know, I look over at the tape machine, 1810 01:36:51,495 --> 01:36:54,498 and I had just put an hour and a half load of tape on the machine, 1811 01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:58,402 and... okay, I'm gonna lock the truck, 1812 01:36:58,436 --> 01:37:00,138 and I'm going inside, 1813 01:37:00,171 --> 01:37:02,440 and no one's gonna be in the truck. 1814 01:37:02,473 --> 01:37:04,442 Didn't feel great about that. 1815 01:37:04,475 --> 01:37:09,047 Got in, coin, tightened up the microphone, 1816 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:13,217 and as I was walking back to the center of the stage, 1817 01:37:13,251 --> 01:37:15,053 the steps to go down, 1818 01:37:15,086 --> 01:37:19,557 the band dropped into "Morning Dew." 1819 01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:24,528 I said, "You know what? Fuck this. 1820 01:37:24,562 --> 01:37:26,197 "This is where I am." 1821 01:37:26,230 --> 01:37:28,199 And, you know, I made the decision there 1822 01:37:28,232 --> 01:37:30,401 that I had to be right there. 1823 01:37:33,171 --> 01:37:36,240 Sparky came over to me and said, "Are you okay?" 1824 01:37:36,274 --> 01:37:38,442 I said, "I'm okay." 1825 01:37:38,476 --> 01:37:41,579 Garcia just looked at me and shook his head, like, you know... 1826 01:37:41,612 --> 01:37:44,415 And in that instant, I knew that I was busted 1827 01:37:44,448 --> 01:37:46,584 because no one was in the truck. 1828 01:37:48,152 --> 01:37:51,890 The raised eyebrow over the eyeglasses, 1829 01:37:51,923 --> 01:37:53,557 it was saying, "I know who you are, 1830 01:37:53,591 --> 01:37:55,960 "I know what you're doing, and it's okay." 1831 01:37:58,062 --> 01:38:00,564 ♪ Walk me out 1832 01:38:00,598 --> 01:38:07,571 ♪ In the morning dew, my honey ♪ 1833 01:38:07,605 --> 01:38:10,141 Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: Because no matter what, 1834 01:38:10,174 --> 01:38:14,612 they really wanted everybody to be there with them. 1835 01:38:14,645 --> 01:38:16,981 Their relationship with the music 1836 01:38:17,015 --> 01:38:20,885 was so dependent on the audience's relationship with the music. 1837 01:38:20,919 --> 01:38:23,121 That was the fuel that made it all work. 1838 01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:31,395 And recording even was a backburner to the music. 1839 01:38:31,429 --> 01:38:34,098 ♪ Can't walk you out 1840 01:38:34,132 --> 01:38:39,337 ♪ In the morning dew, my honey ♪ 1841 01:38:39,370 --> 01:38:41,672 Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: "Morning Dew" is an old folk tune. 1842 01:38:41,705 --> 01:38:45,309 It's a post-apocalyptic commentary on a world 1843 01:38:45,343 --> 01:38:48,146 once people have all died off. 1844 01:38:48,179 --> 01:38:49,580 ♪ I can't walk you out 1845 01:38:49,613 --> 01:38:53,584 "I can't walk you out in the morning dew." 1846 01:38:53,617 --> 01:38:55,553 "It doesn't matter anyway." 1847 01:39:00,091 --> 01:39:02,927 Sitting right behind Garcia, 1848 01:39:02,961 --> 01:39:06,064 he did a good part of his solo in that tune 1849 01:39:06,097 --> 01:39:07,465 with his back to the audience 1850 01:39:07,498 --> 01:39:09,633 with tears streaming down his face, 1851 01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:12,336 'cause he was right there. 1852 01:39:14,305 --> 01:39:19,243 He was playing for all of us, for all of humankind. 1853 01:39:48,472 --> 01:39:52,143 You know, he was like the storyteller. 1854 01:39:52,176 --> 01:39:54,078 The minister. 1855 01:39:54,112 --> 01:39:56,981 You know, I don't know what kind of label you want to put on him. 1856 01:40:21,672 --> 01:40:26,777 And, uh, finished the tune, I went back in the truck, 1857 01:40:26,810 --> 01:40:30,781 slowly opened the door and everything was just fine. 1858 01:40:37,355 --> 01:40:40,358 I finished the tour and went back to the states, 1859 01:40:40,391 --> 01:40:44,528 and my favorite image of Jerry Garcia was 1860 01:40:44,562 --> 01:40:46,597 bouncing out of the control room, 1861 01:40:46,630 --> 01:40:49,733 where he was mixing "Europe '72." 1862 01:40:49,767 --> 01:40:51,335 He looked at me and he said, 1863 01:40:51,369 --> 01:40:53,671 "Wiz, 'Morning Dew' from the Lyceum 1864 01:40:53,704 --> 01:40:56,374 "is 100 percent on the album." 1865 01:40:56,407 --> 01:40:57,551 And he looked at me, he said, 1866 01:40:57,575 --> 01:41:00,144 "And no one was in the truck." 1867 01:41:00,178 --> 01:41:02,613 And, you know, that was what the band was all about was, 1868 01:41:02,646 --> 01:41:06,450 you know, the... The tarot card, The Fool, 1869 01:41:06,484 --> 01:41:11,021 just blindly taking the trip off the cliff. 1870 01:41:12,523 --> 01:41:19,430 ♪ I guess it doesn't really matter ♪ 1871 01:41:19,463 --> 01:41:22,633 ♪ Anyway 1872 01:41:38,249 --> 01:41:41,652 You know... 1873 01:41:41,685 --> 01:41:44,088 that which was the Grateful Dead 1874 01:41:44,122 --> 01:41:47,791 is the elephant with the 500 blind men and women in it. 1875 01:41:47,825 --> 01:41:50,161 I mean... 1876 01:41:50,194 --> 01:41:54,098 everybody's got a different understanding of what that thing was. 1877 01:41:54,132 --> 01:41:56,400 And... 1878 01:41:56,434 --> 01:42:00,438 I'm vain enough to think that mine might be better than some people's 1879 01:42:00,471 --> 01:42:02,873 since I did have this unique position 1880 01:42:02,906 --> 01:42:05,443 of being both inside and outside. 1881 01:42:08,512 --> 01:42:12,483 I just think that there's a lot of bullshit around the Grateful Dead. 1882 01:42:14,552 --> 01:42:17,821 We managed to create just about the most dysfunctional family 1883 01:42:17,855 --> 01:42:21,091 that's ever been created on this planet. 1884 01:42:25,529 --> 01:42:28,466 I remember just, like, the very beginning, 1885 01:42:28,499 --> 01:42:30,601 my first interactions with them. 1886 01:42:33,271 --> 01:42:34,672 I'd been hanging around 1887 01:42:34,705 --> 01:42:36,507 'cause Weir was my official best friend, 1888 01:42:36,540 --> 01:42:40,244 and we'd just started writing songs together. 1889 01:42:41,579 --> 01:42:44,782 And looking around I thought, 1890 01:42:44,815 --> 01:42:47,185 goddamn, these guys are like 1891 01:42:47,218 --> 01:42:50,254 a real swaggery, you know, macho lot. 1892 01:42:54,425 --> 01:42:57,328 The... The idea of somebody from... 1893 01:42:57,361 --> 01:43:01,932 From inside that scene crying, 1894 01:43:01,965 --> 01:43:03,667 just... you didn't do that. 1895 01:43:07,271 --> 01:43:10,574 Well, fuck, sometimes it's a good idea to cry. 1896 01:43:10,608 --> 01:43:12,776 And we've got a lot to cry about, frankly. 1897 01:43:15,579 --> 01:43:19,650 And, you know, it hasn't... it hasn't been properly wept over. 1898 01:43:19,683 --> 01:43:20,683 Very little of it. 1899 01:43:27,791 --> 01:43:32,230 Pigpen. Alas, I knew him well. 1900 01:43:35,333 --> 01:43:37,435 Oh, Pig. 1901 01:43:37,468 --> 01:43:39,737 Why the hell would people put guitar picks down 1902 01:43:39,770 --> 01:43:43,741 on the grave of the keyboard player? 1903 01:43:44,608 --> 01:43:45,743 Answer me that. 1904 01:43:54,718 --> 01:43:55,953 He was such a sweet man. 1905 01:43:58,522 --> 01:44:00,291 ♪ Turn on your light 1906 01:44:00,324 --> 01:44:01,592 ♪ Let it shine on me 1907 01:44:01,625 --> 01:44:03,265 John Perry Barlow: Pigpen was kind of like 1908 01:44:03,294 --> 01:44:06,464 the persona of the Grateful Dead. 1909 01:44:06,497 --> 01:44:09,767 ♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it... ♪ 1910 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,602 ♪ All right 1911 01:44:11,635 --> 01:44:14,938 Mickey Hart: Pigpen would come out and he'd get people up. 1912 01:44:14,972 --> 01:44:16,974 We couldn't do that. 1913 01:44:17,007 --> 01:44:20,010 I mean, Jerry couldn't do it. Bob couldn't do it. 1914 01:44:20,043 --> 01:44:23,514 Phil certainly couldn't. You know? 1915 01:44:24,415 --> 01:44:25,949 But Pigpen could. 1916 01:44:25,983 --> 01:44:27,685 ♪ I'll tell you one of the reasons why... ♪ 1917 01:44:27,718 --> 01:44:30,421 As soon as Pig got up, everybody got up and danced. 1918 01:44:30,454 --> 01:44:31,789 He had that thing about him. 1919 01:44:31,822 --> 01:44:33,691 ♪ Kind of thing that makes me feel so good ♪ 1920 01:44:33,724 --> 01:44:36,260 When he sang, you had fun. 1921 01:44:36,294 --> 01:44:38,329 ♪ And the reason 1922 01:44:38,362 --> 01:44:40,364 ♪ And the reason 1923 01:44:40,398 --> 01:44:42,366 ♪ And the reason 1924 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,801 ♪ All right 1925 01:44:43,834 --> 01:44:46,770 ♪ And she's got box-back titties ♪ 1926 01:44:46,804 --> 01:44:48,806 ♪ And great big noble thighs ♪ 1927 01:44:48,839 --> 01:44:52,343 ♪ Working undercover with a boar hog's eye ♪ 1928 01:44:52,376 --> 01:44:54,412 ♪ And the people got up 1929 01:44:54,445 --> 01:44:56,447 ♪ And the people slowed 1930 01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:58,582 ♪ I got the people up 1931 01:44:58,616 --> 01:45:03,921 ♪ Ahhhhhhhh 1932 01:45:03,954 --> 01:45:06,490 Mickey Hart: Pigpen was a blues guy. 1933 01:45:06,524 --> 01:45:10,761 And the Grateful Dead started as a blues band. 1934 01:45:10,794 --> 01:45:12,330 That's not where it wound up. 1935 01:45:15,599 --> 01:45:19,370 When the shuffle turned into a triplet, 1936 01:45:19,403 --> 01:45:22,540 Pigpen couldn't play those. 1937 01:45:22,573 --> 01:45:26,076 He just couldn't quite get that kind of thing. 1938 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,318 Sam Cutler: Garcia and Pigpen started this band. 1939 01:45:34,352 --> 01:45:37,688 But a lot of people form bands that... 1940 01:45:37,721 --> 01:45:42,693 And fall by the wayside as the dream develops. 1941 01:45:42,726 --> 01:45:45,629 Of course, the Grateful Dead had the experience of the acid tests, right, 1942 01:45:45,663 --> 01:45:47,698 where they all took the same drug, acid, 1943 01:45:47,731 --> 01:45:49,700 and everyone got crazy together. 1944 01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:51,569 Everybody except Pigpen. 1945 01:45:51,602 --> 01:45:53,413 Pigpen: Hey, there ain't no power on the stage. 1946 01:45:53,437 --> 01:45:54,948 Sam Cutler: To Pigpen, it was ridiculous. 1947 01:45:54,972 --> 01:45:56,607 Pigpen: No electricity on the stage. 1948 01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:57,941 Fix it. 1949 01:45:57,975 --> 01:45:59,419 Prankster: This is the Captain speaking, 1950 01:45:59,443 --> 01:46:01,111 we have reached our first emergency. 1951 01:46:01,144 --> 01:46:03,514 Pigpen: Why don't you rectify it pretty damn quick. 1952 01:46:03,547 --> 01:46:06,083 Prankster: Let's everybody put their worries and frets to mind 1953 01:46:06,116 --> 01:46:08,652 to produce some electricity for the stage. 1954 01:46:08,686 --> 01:46:11,455 Pigpen: Hey, man, stop your babbling and fix these microphones. 1955 01:46:11,489 --> 01:46:14,492 We need some power. Power. 1956 01:46:14,525 --> 01:46:16,927 Loud! Loud! 1957 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,729 That's better now. 1958 01:46:18,762 --> 01:46:20,474 Sam Cutler: Pigpen didn't grow with the band 1959 01:46:20,498 --> 01:46:23,501 because Pigpen was busy killing himself on alcohol. 1960 01:46:27,004 --> 01:46:30,408 You know, I mean, alcoholics don't like acid. 1961 01:46:30,441 --> 01:46:32,676 They're trying to close down the doors of perception, 1962 01:46:32,710 --> 01:46:34,110 not open them. You know what I mean? 1963 01:46:36,179 --> 01:46:39,149 Mickey Hart: When things started getting a little strange, 1964 01:46:39,182 --> 01:46:41,084 he kind of warped out, lost interest, 1965 01:46:41,118 --> 01:46:43,587 and just drank and drank and drank. 1966 01:46:43,621 --> 01:46:44,901 Finally, you know, it killed him. 1967 01:46:48,726 --> 01:46:49,903 John Perry Barlow: It was so sad. 1968 01:46:49,927 --> 01:46:51,829 I felt so bad for him, you know. 1969 01:46:51,862 --> 01:46:54,632 I just felt like they... they weren't actually making any effort 1970 01:46:54,665 --> 01:46:57,768 to keep him feeling incorporated. 1971 01:47:00,471 --> 01:47:03,106 It was heart rending because he was so sensitive and sweet, 1972 01:47:03,140 --> 01:47:05,476 and, uh, easily wounded. 1973 01:47:05,509 --> 01:47:08,145 Man 1: 48, take one, head slate. "A" camera. 1974 01:47:08,178 --> 01:47:09,680 Man 2: "A" camera. 1975 01:47:09,713 --> 01:47:11,525 Because nobody wants to look at me. Good grief. 1976 01:47:11,549 --> 01:47:13,484 Jerry Garcia: Everyone wants to look at you, Pig. 1977 01:47:13,517 --> 01:47:15,719 You're beautiful. Let's put it back a little bit. 1978 01:47:15,753 --> 01:47:18,456 Steve Parish: Pigpen was an amazing soul of a person, 1979 01:47:18,489 --> 01:47:20,924 and sometimes when you have 1980 01:47:20,958 --> 01:47:23,193 such a rare gem of a person in there, 1981 01:47:23,226 --> 01:47:25,529 and he's like... you're dealing with him everyday, 1982 01:47:25,563 --> 01:47:26,897 it becomes a task. 1983 01:47:26,930 --> 01:47:28,599 And so, when I was first around, 1984 01:47:28,632 --> 01:47:30,568 I was pushed together with him 1985 01:47:30,601 --> 01:47:32,882 because, on the road, nobody else wanted to room with him. 1986 01:47:35,973 --> 01:47:37,675 But, he was so soulful. 1987 01:47:37,708 --> 01:47:39,477 Man: He's all yours. 1988 01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:41,645 Steve Parish: And at night he would come alive, 1989 01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:44,515 and he drank, and he would teach you the blues. 1990 01:47:44,548 --> 01:47:49,119 ♪ I said goodbye, goodbye, poor Katie ♪ 1991 01:47:49,152 --> 01:47:53,223 ♪ It's the last words I've got to say ♪ 1992 01:47:59,029 --> 01:48:04,835 ♪ And Na, Na, Na, Na, poor Katie ♪ 1993 01:48:04,868 --> 01:48:08,639 ♪ It's the last words I've got to say ♪ 1994 01:48:13,977 --> 01:48:17,848 ♪ 'Cause if I don't meet you tomorrow ♪ 1995 01:48:19,517 --> 01:48:24,622 ♪ I'm gonna getcha early in the next day ♪ 1996 01:48:24,655 --> 01:48:26,790 John Perry Barlow: Looking back on 1973, 1997 01:48:26,824 --> 01:48:28,992 yeah, it was a huge turning point. 1998 01:48:29,026 --> 01:48:32,863 Though... though most people didn't recognize it as such at the time. 1999 01:48:32,896 --> 01:48:38,502 Uh, in fact, it became a line of demarcation. 2000 01:48:43,874 --> 01:48:46,610 After that, it seemed like there was 2001 01:48:46,644 --> 01:48:50,013 an awful lot of death taking place. 2002 01:48:53,784 --> 01:48:58,522 ♪ Like a steam locomotive 2003 01:48:58,556 --> 01:49:01,825 ♪ Rollin' down the track 2004 01:49:01,859 --> 01:49:04,261 ♪ He's gone 2005 01:49:04,294 --> 01:49:08,732 ♪ He's gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back ♪ 2006 01:49:11,702 --> 01:49:13,604 ♪ He's gone 2007 01:49:20,611 --> 01:49:22,212 ♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh 2008 01:49:22,245 --> 01:49:24,815 ♪ Nothin's gonna bring him back ♪ 2009 01:49:24,848 --> 01:49:27,160 Sam Cutler: You look back on the life of the Grateful Dead, 2010 01:49:27,184 --> 01:49:30,220 and it is littered with dead people. 2011 01:49:30,253 --> 01:49:32,122 I remember my mother one time said... 2012 01:49:32,155 --> 01:49:34,692 I saw my mother, I went to England, and I was visiting, 2013 01:49:34,725 --> 01:49:37,194 I saw my mum and she was in her 70s... 2014 01:49:37,227 --> 01:49:39,797 I said, "You don't look very happy. You all right?" 2015 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:41,965 She goes, "Oh I'm at that time in my life 2016 01:49:41,999 --> 01:49:43,901 "when all of my friends are dying." 2017 01:49:43,934 --> 01:49:47,037 I said, "Fuck! My friends are constantly fucking dying." 2018 01:49:50,340 --> 01:49:52,676 Steve Parish: When Pigpen died, the band sat around, 2019 01:49:52,710 --> 01:49:54,645 and everybody was wearing their dark glasses. 2020 01:49:54,678 --> 01:49:56,246 We were crying. 2021 01:49:58,181 --> 01:50:00,684 In the Grateful Dead sometimes you'd get that glimpse of 2022 01:50:00,718 --> 01:50:03,654 how fast we were moving through the world. 2023 01:50:05,255 --> 01:50:06,890 Rex Jackson, 2024 01:50:06,924 --> 01:50:09,760 the toughest motherfucker around, 2025 01:50:09,793 --> 01:50:11,662 gone. 2026 01:50:11,695 --> 01:50:15,633 And Ramrod and Johnny Hagen, 2027 01:50:15,666 --> 01:50:19,269 all these guys are dead now. 2028 01:50:19,302 --> 01:50:21,939 It was a hard life. 2029 01:50:21,972 --> 01:50:23,741 And it took its toll, you know, 2030 01:50:23,774 --> 01:50:25,108 and you had to understand that. 2031 01:50:58,490 --> 01:51:01,594 Man: Have your ticket out and ready! Let's go. 2032 01:51:01,627 --> 01:51:05,564 Must have a ticket. 2033 01:51:05,598 --> 01:51:07,666 Have 'em out and ready. 2034 01:51:15,173 --> 01:51:19,912 ♪ Look for a while at the China Cat sunflower ♪ 2035 01:51:19,945 --> 01:51:25,017 ♪ Proud walking jingle in the midnight sun ♪ 2036 01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:27,586 Lesh: Every time I go on stage, 2037 01:51:27,620 --> 01:51:30,656 I walk on stage with the knowledge 2038 01:51:30,689 --> 01:51:32,324 that anything can happen. 2039 01:51:34,292 --> 01:51:37,730 The important thing is to be open. 2040 01:51:40,065 --> 01:51:42,935 Not to go in with any preconceptions 2041 01:51:42,968 --> 01:51:44,670 about whether it's gonna be bad or good 2042 01:51:44,703 --> 01:51:46,639 depending on how the sound check went. 2043 01:51:50,142 --> 01:51:52,377 We always tried to keep it as open as possible, 2044 01:51:52,410 --> 01:51:54,780 and that's what we learned from the acid test. 2045 01:51:58,350 --> 01:52:01,720 Cutler: What the LSD experience teaches you 2046 01:52:01,754 --> 01:52:04,890 is that all things are possible. 2047 01:52:07,726 --> 01:52:10,028 And that's how the Grateful Dead played. 2048 01:52:11,897 --> 01:52:13,766 You know, Phil certainly doesn't play 2049 01:52:13,799 --> 01:52:16,635 what one would describe as a conventional bass. 2050 01:52:21,974 --> 01:52:24,910 And Bobby ended up inventing a whole way 2051 01:52:24,943 --> 01:52:27,345 of being the unique rhythm guitar player. 2052 01:52:33,886 --> 01:52:38,123 But there's nobody who ever came anywhere close to Jerry 2053 01:52:38,156 --> 01:52:40,392 in terms of being able to manifest 2054 01:52:40,425 --> 01:52:43,295 the psychedelic experience musically. 2055 01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:49,868 Having taken LSD, 2056 01:52:49,902 --> 01:52:53,171 you become this person who's aware of the fact 2057 01:52:53,205 --> 01:52:57,042 that life only has a certain amount of predictability to it. 2058 01:52:59,745 --> 01:53:05,250 Jerry was a master at setting up a kind of musical expectation 2059 01:53:05,283 --> 01:53:08,887 and then dragging you off in another direction. 2060 01:53:31,777 --> 01:53:34,947 McNally: The Grateful Dead went into the music for the adventure. 2061 01:53:37,282 --> 01:53:40,953 And they went into it having had that experience with the acid tests, 2062 01:53:40,986 --> 01:53:44,957 in which you treated your audience like partners. 2063 01:53:46,925 --> 01:53:50,462 That's why they did things like spend 2064 01:53:50,495 --> 01:53:54,967 an unconscionable amount of money on the sound system, 2065 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,903 because that's the link between them and the audience. 2066 01:53:57,936 --> 01:54:00,372 It was the sound. 2067 01:54:04,042 --> 01:54:07,512 Parish: Jerry wanted to put a better quality of sound out to the people, 2068 01:54:07,545 --> 01:54:09,414 and all the guys did. 2069 01:54:11,817 --> 01:54:13,318 So we built this thing together 2070 01:54:13,351 --> 01:54:17,856 that became the most unbelievable PA 2071 01:54:17,890 --> 01:54:20,826 that you could imagine. 2072 01:54:20,859 --> 01:54:24,830 And we called it the Wall of Sound. 2073 01:54:27,866 --> 01:54:31,837 Lesh: The Wall of Sound? 2074 01:54:31,870 --> 01:54:33,405 I loved that thing. 2075 01:54:36,441 --> 01:54:41,046 I mean, it was the best PA ever. 2076 01:54:41,079 --> 01:54:44,082 It was the best sound I can possibly imagine. 2077 01:54:44,116 --> 01:54:47,485 And it was also the biggest. 2078 01:54:47,519 --> 01:54:50,388 It was absolutely apocalyptic. 2079 01:54:52,991 --> 01:54:54,827 It was like the voice of God. 2080 01:55:12,510 --> 01:55:15,347 Parish: Oh yeah. We built that PA. 2081 01:55:15,380 --> 01:55:18,450 We did that ourselves in our spare time 2082 01:55:18,483 --> 01:55:20,218 with our own two hands. 2083 01:55:20,252 --> 01:55:22,520 I learned to weld. Heely showed me. 2084 01:55:22,554 --> 01:55:24,456 We welded the first horns together 2085 01:55:24,489 --> 01:55:27,125 that we carried ourselves. 2086 01:55:27,159 --> 01:55:33,832 And at the heart of the dream of it was Owsley, or Bear, 2087 01:55:33,866 --> 01:55:39,137 and his sound design genius. 2088 01:55:39,171 --> 01:55:41,349 Weir: That's the gleeful sound of our PA as it warms up. 2089 01:55:41,373 --> 01:55:44,176 Pigpen: Hey Bear, there's not gonna be another fuckin' word sung 2090 01:55:44,209 --> 01:55:46,311 until them goddamn monitors work. 2091 01:55:46,344 --> 01:55:48,580 Weir: That, ladies and gentlemen, is Bear, none other. 2092 01:55:48,613 --> 01:55:51,616 Lesh: Bear was a mad scientist. 2093 01:55:51,649 --> 01:55:54,819 A little bit of a mad scientist among many other aspects. 2094 01:55:56,554 --> 01:55:59,191 Weir: Augustus Owsley Stanley, 2095 01:55:59,224 --> 01:56:01,626 or better known as The Bear, 2096 01:56:01,659 --> 01:56:05,030 made probably the best LSD that has ever been made. 2097 01:56:05,063 --> 01:56:07,933 Cutler: Oof, that was particularly powerful LSD, 2098 01:56:07,966 --> 01:56:10,635 you know, Jimi Hendrix wrote Purple Haze 2099 01:56:10,668 --> 01:56:13,438 in honor of a brand of LSD that The Bear made. 2100 01:56:13,471 --> 01:56:15,974 Weir: He more or less fueled the psychedelic revolution, 2101 01:56:16,008 --> 01:56:18,210 or whatever you wanted to call it. 2102 01:56:18,243 --> 01:56:21,246 Cutler: In a way, yeah, it changed the consciousness of the Western world. 2103 01:56:21,279 --> 01:56:23,581 Weir: It certainly fueled us in our little explorations. 2104 01:56:31,156 --> 01:56:33,358 Parish: When the Grateful Dead started, 2105 01:56:33,391 --> 01:56:36,294 Owsley bought 'em all their own equipment with his acid money. 2106 01:56:38,263 --> 01:56:40,365 Lesh: He had sort of adopted us 2107 01:56:40,398 --> 01:56:43,068 from the Fillmore Acid Test on. 2108 01:56:43,101 --> 01:56:47,005 He put a lot of energy and, yes, money, into the Grateful Dead. 2109 01:56:47,039 --> 01:56:48,506 Parish: In the early days, 2110 01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:52,477 what there was in P.A.s was just so inadequate. 2111 01:56:52,510 --> 01:56:55,513 Hart: We realized that if we were gonna play for larger crowds, 2112 01:56:55,547 --> 01:56:58,083 we were gonna need a real delivery system. 2113 01:56:58,116 --> 01:57:03,588 And, if sound was the product of all of this work, 2114 01:57:03,621 --> 01:57:06,258 it better be fucking good, man. 2115 01:57:06,291 --> 01:57:09,594 Lesh: Bear's dream was to have a system 2116 01:57:09,627 --> 01:57:12,630 that you could hear for a mile. 2117 01:57:12,664 --> 01:57:15,600 No distortion between the string and the speaker. 2118 01:57:15,633 --> 01:57:19,004 That was his holy grail. 2119 01:57:19,037 --> 01:57:21,339 At first, that was just a fantasy. 2120 01:57:21,373 --> 01:57:24,309 But then, Bear started 2121 01:57:24,342 --> 01:57:26,478 seriously thinking about how it could be done. 2122 01:57:28,346 --> 01:57:30,282 The first thing was, 2123 01:57:30,315 --> 01:57:33,618 he'd move all the speakers for everything behind the band 2124 01:57:33,651 --> 01:57:35,720 so we don't have any complicated interference. 2125 01:57:35,753 --> 01:57:37,422 He built differential microphones, 2126 01:57:37,455 --> 01:57:40,425 which are two microphones connected out of phase. 2127 01:57:40,458 --> 01:57:43,495 You sing into one of them, and the one that's out of phase 2128 01:57:43,528 --> 01:57:47,265 eliminates all of the feedback. 2129 01:57:47,299 --> 01:57:50,235 We found that dispersion of speakers is much better 2130 01:57:50,268 --> 01:57:52,570 if they're placed vertically together 2131 01:57:52,604 --> 01:57:54,306 than if they're spread out. 2132 01:57:54,339 --> 01:57:56,341 And so that lead to the thought of, 2133 01:57:56,374 --> 01:57:59,311 "Okay, it had to be large and tall to push air 2134 01:57:59,344 --> 01:58:01,046 so you that could hear it for a mile." 2135 01:58:05,217 --> 01:58:11,089 Parish: Phil Lesh, he had a stack 32 feet high. 2136 01:58:11,123 --> 01:58:13,658 Why was it 32 feet? Because that's a standing bass wave. 2137 01:58:13,691 --> 01:58:16,628 So everything was based on some kind of deep science thing. 2138 01:58:16,661 --> 01:58:19,431 We built this thing together 2139 01:58:19,464 --> 01:58:23,235 that became the most unbelievable PA 2140 01:58:23,268 --> 01:58:25,203 that you could imagine. 2141 01:58:25,237 --> 01:58:28,106 But, by the time we got to '74, 2142 01:58:28,140 --> 01:58:31,676 the Wall of Sound was making us crazy. 2143 01:58:36,248 --> 01:58:41,053 We had to get up at six in the morning. 2144 01:58:41,086 --> 01:58:45,790 Eight o'clock, we had to be at that hall... 2145 01:58:45,823 --> 01:58:48,626 convincing the union guys that what we were bringing in 2146 01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:51,029 was something that was needed. 2147 01:58:51,063 --> 01:58:54,099 They'd never saw rock and roll shows with these kind of things. 2148 01:58:57,569 --> 01:59:02,107 Three trucks full to the brim with all this heavy gear. 2149 01:59:05,477 --> 01:59:08,680 Ten o'clock, the trucks were empty. 2150 01:59:08,713 --> 01:59:13,318 It took us till noon to stack the 500 speakers. 2151 01:59:15,187 --> 01:59:17,422 Wired it up all afternoon. 2152 01:59:17,455 --> 01:59:19,257 The band came in about four o'clock 2153 01:59:19,291 --> 01:59:21,526 and sound checked. 2154 01:59:21,559 --> 01:59:23,361 And then the doors opened at seven. 2155 01:59:27,399 --> 01:59:29,210 And then they play till one or two in the morning. 2156 01:59:29,234 --> 01:59:30,835 It took us four hours to take it out. 2157 01:59:30,868 --> 01:59:33,671 Here's six a.m., we're driving to the next place. 2158 01:59:38,243 --> 01:59:41,846 Lesh: I'm sure we could have made it more efficient and easier 2159 01:59:41,879 --> 01:59:43,648 to set up and everything. 2160 01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:46,484 We didn't give a shit. 2161 01:59:48,586 --> 01:59:52,490 We were gonna do it, and we were gonna blow it out 2162 01:59:52,524 --> 01:59:54,659 until we couldn't do it anymore. 2163 01:59:54,692 --> 01:59:56,694 It doesn't matter when that happens. 2164 01:59:56,728 --> 02:00:00,132 While we got, it we were gonna do it. 2165 02:00:00,165 --> 02:00:01,333 The Grateful Dead are dumb. 2166 02:00:01,366 --> 02:00:03,235 You have to understand something. 2167 02:00:03,268 --> 02:00:05,170 They make fabulous music, 2168 02:00:05,203 --> 02:00:07,405 wonderful, amazing music, 2169 02:00:07,439 --> 02:00:10,542 the best music of any band I've ever been involved with. 2170 02:00:10,575 --> 02:00:11,843 Fabulous. 2171 02:00:11,876 --> 02:00:15,147 When it came to business decisions... stupid. 2172 02:00:15,180 --> 02:00:19,384 Sam brought a professionalism to the office, 2173 02:00:19,417 --> 02:00:22,454 which was needed at that time, 2174 02:00:22,487 --> 02:00:25,657 but he ran up against the fact that he was not 2175 02:00:25,690 --> 02:00:29,827 dealing with a hierarchical organization. 2176 02:00:29,861 --> 02:00:34,599 I was brought in to manage the publishing company, 2177 02:00:34,632 --> 02:00:37,802 but our roles within the Grateful Dead family 2178 02:00:37,835 --> 02:00:40,572 actually overlapped a lot. 2179 02:00:40,605 --> 02:00:43,841 We all did a little bit of everything. 2180 02:00:43,875 --> 02:00:47,545 And Sam found that he was dealing with a collective, 2181 02:00:47,579 --> 02:00:51,916 and these were not music business professionals. 2182 02:00:51,949 --> 02:00:54,786 It was a nightmare. Nightmare. 2183 02:00:54,819 --> 02:00:57,489 First off, they didn't know how to make decisions. 2184 02:00:57,522 --> 02:00:59,291 Trist: Everybody had a voice, 2185 02:00:59,324 --> 02:01:01,659 and everybody's voice was equally listened to. 2186 02:01:01,693 --> 02:01:04,396 Cutler: When I first went to a meeting with the Grateful Dead, 2187 02:01:04,429 --> 02:01:06,231 there was all these people there. 2188 02:01:06,264 --> 02:01:08,633 There was so many fuckin' people, it was ridiculous. 2189 02:01:08,666 --> 02:01:10,302 They were all part of this 2190 02:01:10,335 --> 02:01:13,605 amorphous blob of people called The Family. 2191 02:01:13,638 --> 02:01:16,708 Trist: It had the characteristics of an open system. 2192 02:01:16,741 --> 02:01:17,951 Cutler: I don't deal with families. 2193 02:01:17,975 --> 02:01:19,777 I deal with rock and roll bands, you know? 2194 02:01:19,811 --> 02:01:21,946 Trist: One that cared a lot about the employees. 2195 02:01:21,979 --> 02:01:23,548 Cutler: I don't deal with old ladies, 2196 02:01:23,581 --> 02:01:24,825 I don't deal with friends of the band. 2197 02:01:24,849 --> 02:01:25,917 Trist: One person says no, 2198 02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:27,319 then it's not on. 2199 02:01:27,352 --> 02:01:28,753 Whatever. I deal with musicians. 2200 02:01:28,786 --> 02:01:30,622 You want me to do this, I'll do it, 2201 02:01:30,655 --> 02:01:32,400 but I ain't gonna deal with all these other people. 2202 02:01:32,424 --> 02:01:33,934 McNally: When is the twelfth? Is it a Wednesday? 2203 02:01:33,958 --> 02:01:35,793 - Man: No, it's a Sunday. - Hart: The tenth. 2204 02:01:35,827 --> 02:01:37,595 Weir: I say, the twelfth. 2205 02:01:37,629 --> 02:01:40,865 Hart: What day is it? Cutler: What's a camel? 2206 02:01:40,898 --> 02:01:42,967 It's a horse designed by a committee. 2207 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,603 Garcia: Why don't we make it one of those... 2208 02:01:45,637 --> 02:01:47,548 Man: Well, I didn't wanna fuckin' sit there anyway. 2209 02:01:47,572 --> 02:01:49,674 Parish: This is Steve. I'm at the meeting. 2210 02:01:49,707 --> 02:01:51,476 Everything's going to pieces, man. 2211 02:01:51,509 --> 02:01:53,211 People are screamin' out of turn. 2212 02:01:53,245 --> 02:01:54,879 The whole place is burning down, man. 2213 02:01:54,912 --> 02:01:56,981 Cutler: I'm a great believer in tellin' people, 2214 02:01:57,014 --> 02:02:00,652 "This is what needs to be done." 2215 02:02:00,685 --> 02:02:02,454 But of course, that didn't endear me 2216 02:02:02,487 --> 02:02:05,223 to a lot of people in the Grateful Dead. 2217 02:02:05,257 --> 02:02:08,626 So, eventually, I said "good luck" and left. 2218 02:02:10,828 --> 02:02:12,897 Parish: Sam knew how to treat the crew, 2219 02:02:12,930 --> 02:02:14,466 and he had the experience 2220 02:02:14,499 --> 02:02:15,867 to take us through those years 2221 02:02:15,900 --> 02:02:18,903 of our first growth spurt. 2222 02:02:18,936 --> 02:02:22,840 But by the time we got to '74, he was gone. 2223 02:02:22,874 --> 02:02:24,776 Lev: Who was in charge? 2224 02:02:24,809 --> 02:02:26,378 Well, I'm so glad you asked that 2225 02:02:26,411 --> 02:02:28,246 because I came up with this, man. 2226 02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,258 Because we would hear that a lot of times from promoters. 2227 02:02:30,282 --> 02:02:31,383 "Who's in charge here?" 2228 02:02:31,416 --> 02:02:32,517 We'd hear it from cops. 2229 02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:33,885 "Who's in charge here?" 2230 02:02:33,918 --> 02:02:37,355 And I came up with this saying. 2231 02:02:37,389 --> 02:02:39,591 I said, "The situation is the boss." 2232 02:02:41,393 --> 02:02:44,429 There were times when I was in charge of everything. 2233 02:02:44,462 --> 02:02:48,266 There were times when Jerry was in charge of everything. 2234 02:02:48,300 --> 02:02:52,337 And then, at another time, it would be somebody else. 2235 02:02:52,370 --> 02:02:54,706 It would be a truck that had a blown carburetor. 2236 02:02:54,739 --> 02:02:56,741 That carburetor was the boss at that moment. 2237 02:02:56,774 --> 02:02:58,943 ♪ There's mosquitoes on the river ♪ 2238 02:03:01,579 --> 02:03:03,515 ♪ Fish are rising up like birds ♪ 2239 02:03:06,083 --> 02:03:08,353 ♪ It's been hot for seven weeks now ♪ 2240 02:03:08,386 --> 02:03:10,054 ♪ Too hot to even speak now 2241 02:03:10,087 --> 02:03:12,357 ♪ Did you hear what I just heard? ♪ 2242 02:03:15,026 --> 02:03:16,794 Say, it might have been a fiddle. 2243 02:03:16,828 --> 02:03:20,398 Parish: In '74, we took the Wall of Sound 2244 02:03:20,432 --> 02:03:23,601 over to Europe, and it was about impossible. 2245 02:03:23,635 --> 02:03:26,404 If you think the United States couldn't deal with it, 2246 02:03:26,438 --> 02:03:28,806 Europe, they couldn't deal with it at all. 2247 02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:30,675 They didn't know why you had to bring 2248 02:03:30,708 --> 02:03:31,943 this much sound equipment. 2249 02:03:31,976 --> 02:03:33,645 What were you thinking? 2250 02:03:33,678 --> 02:03:38,816 ♪ There's a band out on the highway ♪ 2251 02:03:38,850 --> 02:03:43,555 ♪ They're high-stepping into town ♪ 2252 02:03:43,588 --> 02:03:48,393 Parish: We worked so hard, exhaustion was setting in. 2253 02:03:48,426 --> 02:03:53,365 And cocaine was leading the pack now. 2254 02:03:53,398 --> 02:03:56,434 We were in such a drug fueled world. 2255 02:03:56,468 --> 02:03:58,636 We didn't have anybody telling us no. 2256 02:03:58,670 --> 02:04:01,639 And God forbid, if somebody did. 2257 02:04:01,673 --> 02:04:04,642 If it was your old lady or your wife, she was gone. 2258 02:04:04,676 --> 02:04:07,111 If she tried to do it as much as you did, she was gone. 2259 02:04:07,144 --> 02:04:09,981 You both were gone. 2260 02:04:10,014 --> 02:04:11,483 Everybody was crazy. 2261 02:04:14,919 --> 02:04:19,357 Hart: Oh, yeah. Backstage, it was total chaos. 2262 02:04:19,391 --> 02:04:21,826 People were doing heavier drugs, you know. 2263 02:04:21,859 --> 02:04:23,528 The cocaine came in. 2264 02:04:23,561 --> 02:04:24,829 The heroin came in. 2265 02:04:24,862 --> 02:04:26,864 The booze came in. 2266 02:04:26,898 --> 02:04:29,133 It was everywhere. 2267 02:04:29,166 --> 02:04:33,004 You realize, of course, that we're engaging in illicit activities here. 2268 02:04:33,037 --> 02:04:35,640 Hart: You had to have a lot of discipline. 2269 02:04:35,673 --> 02:04:38,476 We didn't have a lot of discipline in some ways. 2270 02:04:52,089 --> 02:04:55,059 Lesh: When we went to Europe in '74, it was... 2271 02:04:55,092 --> 02:04:58,095 It was gettin' really crazy. 2272 02:05:00,197 --> 02:05:03,601 And everybody, I think, was gettin' too deep 2273 02:05:03,635 --> 02:05:07,639 into the rock and roll fantasy, you know, world. 2274 02:05:11,876 --> 02:05:15,447 Parish: I don't give a hell what anybody believes, man. 2275 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:19,517 Every drug that we took, we used for self exploration. 2276 02:05:25,156 --> 02:05:28,626 Nitrous Oxide puts you in that place 2277 02:05:28,660 --> 02:05:33,431 where you're at rapture of the deep, basically. 2278 02:05:33,465 --> 02:05:35,500 So your body is living off of nitrous, 2279 02:05:35,533 --> 02:05:37,201 but we're made to live off oxygen. 2280 02:05:37,234 --> 02:05:41,038 So your brain goes to this place where it's lettin' go... 2281 02:05:41,072 --> 02:05:45,176 of reality and consciousness, and you're dying. 2282 02:05:45,209 --> 02:05:46,678 You're gratefully dying. 2283 02:05:49,914 --> 02:05:52,917 That's why you laugh, because it's funny, man. 2284 02:05:58,122 --> 02:06:00,992 You understand everything at that moment, man. 2285 02:06:01,025 --> 02:06:03,795 Everything makes fuckin' sense. This thing happens... 2286 02:06:03,828 --> 02:06:06,931 Oh that, yeah, the music on this thing! 2287 02:06:06,964 --> 02:06:09,000 And you, your leg and your arm, bam! 2288 02:06:09,033 --> 02:06:11,536 And your mother's glasses, wow! 2289 02:06:11,569 --> 02:06:14,205 And then you come out of it, and you can't get back there. 2290 02:06:14,238 --> 02:06:16,040 You can't go back to that spot, 2291 02:06:16,073 --> 02:06:17,975 but yet you know for the rest of your life 2292 02:06:18,009 --> 02:06:20,478 that there is that high place. 2293 02:06:22,947 --> 02:06:28,085 If you're takin' drugs just to hide from the world, 2294 02:06:28,119 --> 02:06:30,154 you're gonna become a hidden person. 2295 02:06:32,890 --> 02:06:34,992 If you take drugs to find the world, 2296 02:06:35,026 --> 02:06:37,595 you're gonna become a vibrant human being. 2297 02:06:42,834 --> 02:06:44,902 Barlow: One of the things that I don't think 2298 02:06:44,936 --> 02:06:46,213 people have properly appreciated 2299 02:06:46,237 --> 02:06:50,074 about the culture of the Grateful Dead 2300 02:06:50,107 --> 02:06:55,813 is our utter comfort with paradox. 2301 02:06:55,847 --> 02:07:00,585 You know, we were never an either-or kind of a culture. 2302 02:07:00,618 --> 02:07:02,520 We were always both-and. 2303 02:07:05,256 --> 02:07:08,292 The Deadheads, you know, they had a very strong sense 2304 02:07:08,325 --> 02:07:10,027 that there were good guys and bad guys 2305 02:07:10,061 --> 02:07:11,295 and they knew who they were. 2306 02:07:11,328 --> 02:07:14,632 There is good, and there is bad. 2307 02:07:14,666 --> 02:07:17,068 Good, bad. 2308 02:07:19,637 --> 02:07:21,205 With us, it wasn't so clear. 2309 02:07:21,238 --> 02:07:24,041 You know, we had a... 2310 02:07:24,075 --> 02:07:27,679 We had Hell's Angels hanging around for ages. 2311 02:07:29,814 --> 02:07:32,984 You know, and those are people who don't even try to be good guys. 2312 02:07:35,086 --> 02:07:37,555 Sacramento's coming down, San Jose's coming up, 2313 02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:40,992 Davis City's coming in, Richmond, Frisco will be here. 2314 02:07:49,066 --> 02:07:51,736 And here's a good friend of ours right here from San Francisco. 2315 02:07:51,769 --> 02:07:53,738 Hey, how come we never cake fight, Bobby? 2316 02:07:53,771 --> 02:07:57,041 Man: Cake fight! 2317 02:07:57,074 --> 02:07:58,976 Is this your guitar? 2318 02:07:59,010 --> 02:08:00,654 Barlow: I mean, at one point I complained to Garcia 2319 02:08:00,678 --> 02:08:03,147 about what I thought was the unnecessary presence 2320 02:08:03,180 --> 02:08:08,052 of all the Angels thuggin' it up backstage, 2321 02:08:08,085 --> 02:08:10,622 making everybody kind of nervous, 2322 02:08:10,655 --> 02:08:14,125 and making it even harder for women in a scene that 2323 02:08:14,158 --> 02:08:18,229 was already misogynistic to the max. 2324 02:08:18,262 --> 02:08:20,264 And he said, "Well, you know, 2325 02:08:20,297 --> 02:08:23,334 I don't think that good means very much without evil." 2326 02:08:26,237 --> 02:08:29,607 Which is true. 2327 02:08:29,641 --> 02:08:31,342 But that doesn't necessarily mean 2328 02:08:31,375 --> 02:08:35,346 that you have to always have a seat for evil at the table. 2329 02:08:35,379 --> 02:08:37,815 ♪ Ran into the Devil, baby 2330 02:08:37,849 --> 02:08:40,251 ♪ He loaned me 20 bills 2331 02:08:40,284 --> 02:08:41,953 ♪ Spent the night in Utah 2332 02:08:41,986 --> 02:08:44,822 ♪ In a cave up in the hills 2333 02:08:44,856 --> 02:08:47,124 ♪ Set out running but I take my time ♪ 2334 02:08:47,158 --> 02:08:49,293 ♪ A friend of the devil is a friend of mine ♪ 2335 02:08:49,326 --> 02:08:51,829 ♪ If I get home before daylight ♪ 2336 02:08:51,863 --> 02:08:56,200 ♪ Just might get some sleep tonight ♪ 2337 02:08:56,233 --> 02:09:00,071 Garcia: Hell's Angels happened because of freedom. 2338 02:09:00,104 --> 02:09:03,207 They're free to happen. 2339 02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:07,178 And they're a manifestation of what freedom is in essence. 2340 02:09:07,211 --> 02:09:09,814 Reporter: And yet, you have an Altamont. 2341 02:09:17,889 --> 02:09:21,392 Somehow I feel that you're being, maybe, too forgiving. 2342 02:09:21,425 --> 02:09:23,861 Garcia: I'm not... I mean, you know, well, what's to forgive? 2343 02:09:23,895 --> 02:09:26,097 - There isn't any blame. - Reporter: There is no blame? 2344 02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:27,340 Garcia: No, man, there isn't any blame. 2345 02:09:27,364 --> 02:09:28,966 Because who're you gonna blame? 2346 02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:30,343 You'd have to blame everybody, you know? 2347 02:09:30,367 --> 02:09:31,769 We're all human beings, 2348 02:09:31,803 --> 02:09:33,113 we're all on this planet together, 2349 02:09:33,137 --> 02:09:34,706 and all the problems are all of ours. 2350 02:09:39,310 --> 02:09:42,313 Not, some are mine and some are theirs. 2351 02:09:42,346 --> 02:09:45,449 If there's a war going on, I'm as responsible as anybody is. 2352 02:09:45,482 --> 02:09:47,885 If somebody's murdered, I'm responsible for that, too. 2353 02:09:50,855 --> 02:09:52,757 At some point or another somebody has to say, 2354 02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:55,092 there can be no Hell's Angels, you know? 2355 02:09:55,126 --> 02:09:59,130 And who's gonna say that? 2356 02:09:59,163 --> 02:10:03,467 It's just, you know, it's not what I'm interested in doing. 2357 02:10:03,500 --> 02:10:05,469 The question is how to work it out, man? 2358 02:10:05,502 --> 02:10:08,339 How can you have freedom and still work it out? 2359 02:10:15,379 --> 02:10:18,182 There was a strong belief, 2360 02:10:18,215 --> 02:10:23,187 primarily on Garcia's part, 2361 02:10:23,220 --> 02:10:26,457 that it was important that it be leaderless. 2362 02:10:28,492 --> 02:10:30,995 He did not want to be the leader. 2363 02:10:33,264 --> 02:10:36,300 Never mind that he was, 2364 02:10:36,333 --> 02:10:40,071 and there was no way around it, 2365 02:10:40,104 --> 02:10:43,307 and, you know, often times bad things happened 2366 02:10:43,340 --> 02:10:45,209 because he wasn't willing to... 2367 02:10:45,242 --> 02:10:46,978 He wasn't willing to assert 2368 02:10:47,011 --> 02:10:49,380 what was basically pretty obvious. 2369 02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,522 Trist: Jerry once said to me, 2370 02:10:58,555 --> 02:11:02,026 when I was getting a little excited 2371 02:11:02,059 --> 02:11:05,763 about putting off some project or some idea, 2372 02:11:05,797 --> 02:11:07,531 he said, "You know, 2373 02:11:07,564 --> 02:11:12,469 don't try to do anything with the Grateful Dead." 2374 02:11:15,372 --> 02:11:20,411 That, you know, because the collective, in a way, 2375 02:11:20,444 --> 02:11:23,514 is a classic example of following the Tao. 2376 02:11:27,184 --> 02:11:29,386 The way things went down 2377 02:11:29,420 --> 02:11:32,556 were the way they were supposed to go down. 2378 02:11:32,589 --> 02:11:36,027 And, you know, nobody really knew what that was. 2379 02:11:46,570 --> 02:11:48,572 Barlow: Because nobody wanted to be in charge, 2380 02:11:48,605 --> 02:11:54,011 and nobody wanted to say no to anything, 2381 02:11:54,045 --> 02:11:56,113 it became pretty clear that... 2382 02:11:56,147 --> 02:12:00,317 we had become a fully dysfunctional family. 2383 02:12:00,351 --> 02:12:03,855 Godchaux: I don't want to get into the whole drugs thing, 2384 02:12:03,888 --> 02:12:06,858 but it just got unbearable. 2385 02:12:08,592 --> 02:12:13,264 It got unbearable on Keith and me as a husband and wife, 2386 02:12:13,297 --> 02:12:18,002 as a couple with a child, 2387 02:12:18,035 --> 02:12:20,071 and Keith and I were burning out. 2388 02:12:24,108 --> 02:12:25,409 Barlow: At one point, 2389 02:12:25,442 --> 02:12:27,411 Alan Trist went completely crazy. 2390 02:12:27,444 --> 02:12:31,215 I mean, the sanest guy in the whole scene, basically. 2391 02:12:31,248 --> 02:12:34,952 Trist: My susceptibility to what we call around here 2392 02:12:34,986 --> 02:12:37,121 the Marin Spin 2393 02:12:37,154 --> 02:12:40,324 was probably likely to kill me. 2394 02:12:40,357 --> 02:12:43,627 And I was out of Dodge for a period there, 2395 02:12:43,660 --> 02:12:46,630 until I became more connected 2396 02:12:46,663 --> 02:12:50,267 with gentler approaches to... 2397 02:12:50,301 --> 02:12:53,037 To self-abuse, if you're going to put it that way. 2398 02:12:54,671 --> 02:12:58,609 McNally: It was difficult just trying to limp along. 2399 02:12:58,642 --> 02:13:02,513 I mean, remember, they were spending incredible amounts 2400 02:13:02,546 --> 02:13:05,883 of money on the sound system. 2401 02:13:05,917 --> 02:13:10,121 And they paid the crew, which by now had gotten to be a respectable size... 2402 02:13:10,154 --> 02:13:13,557 Radically more than any other employees 2403 02:13:13,590 --> 02:13:15,392 in the history of rock and roll. 2404 02:13:15,426 --> 02:13:18,229 They were supporting lots of people, 2405 02:13:18,262 --> 02:13:19,931 including their own families. 2406 02:13:19,964 --> 02:13:22,433 And it's too much. 2407 02:13:22,466 --> 02:13:24,535 It's all too much. 2408 02:13:24,568 --> 02:13:25,602 That's not tenable. 2409 02:13:28,672 --> 02:13:30,975 Barlow: You know, and it finally just... 2410 02:13:31,008 --> 02:13:33,444 It reached a point where... 2411 02:13:33,477 --> 02:13:36,981 in late '74... 2412 02:13:37,014 --> 02:13:40,084 everybody sort of simultaneously came 2413 02:13:40,117 --> 02:13:42,653 to the conclusion that it just... 2414 02:13:42,686 --> 02:13:45,389 It just wasn't worth it. 2415 02:13:45,422 --> 02:13:48,960 Uh... and we broke up. 2416 02:13:52,096 --> 02:13:55,066 Lesh: It was decided somehow that we would take a break. 2417 02:13:55,099 --> 02:13:57,001 And, if you're gonna do that, 2418 02:13:57,034 --> 02:14:00,137 then it's probably a good idea to do some farewell shows. 2419 02:14:00,171 --> 02:14:02,573 ♪ I know you rider 2420 02:14:02,606 --> 02:14:07,644 ♪ Gonna miss me when I'm gone 2421 02:14:07,678 --> 02:14:09,246 Lesh: And so, we'd booked these last... 2422 02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,415 four, five shows at the Winterland. 2423 02:14:11,448 --> 02:14:14,318 ♪ I know you rider 2424 02:14:14,351 --> 02:14:19,690 ♪ Gonna miss me when I'm gone 2425 02:14:23,060 --> 02:14:26,063 ♪ Gonna miss your baby 2426 02:14:26,097 --> 02:14:30,367 ♪ From rolling in your arms 2427 02:14:41,345 --> 02:14:45,116 Lesh: And somebody on the management side came up with an idea, 2428 02:14:45,149 --> 02:14:47,151 "Well, let's make a movie out of it." 2429 02:14:47,184 --> 02:14:50,721 - Man: This is sound roll TH6. - Take one. 2430 02:14:50,754 --> 02:14:53,366 Lesh: Jerry really loved that 'cause he's always wanted to direct a movie, 2431 02:14:53,390 --> 02:14:56,593 so this was his chance, so he kind of jumped on that. 2432 02:14:59,063 --> 02:15:01,698 Barlow: We had something like eleven camera crews 2433 02:15:01,732 --> 02:15:06,737 ostensibly making a movie that was gonna sum up our work. 2434 02:15:06,770 --> 02:15:08,572 And that was gonna be the end of it. 2435 02:15:08,605 --> 02:15:11,408 ♪ The sun will shine 2436 02:15:11,442 --> 02:15:16,080 ♪ In my back door someday 2437 02:15:16,113 --> 02:15:19,316 But it was kind of fraught with weirdness 2438 02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:23,520 from the beginning, not surprisingly. 2439 02:15:23,554 --> 02:15:27,158 Our sound mixer kind of went belly up, 2440 02:15:27,191 --> 02:15:29,160 mentally speaking. 2441 02:15:29,193 --> 02:15:32,429 During our actual recording, at the end of the last show, 2442 02:15:32,463 --> 02:15:38,069 he was found cowering under the soundboard. 2443 02:15:38,102 --> 02:15:41,505 I don't know why, and I never have. 2444 02:15:41,538 --> 02:15:43,807 I'm not sure I even wanna speculate. 2445 02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:48,379 ♪ I wish I was a headlight 2446 02:15:48,412 --> 02:15:51,282 ♪ On a northbound train 2447 02:15:55,819 --> 02:15:59,723 ♪ I wish I was a headlight 2448 02:15:59,756 --> 02:16:03,094 ♪ On a northbound train 2449 02:16:07,698 --> 02:16:09,566 ♪ I'd shine my light 2450 02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:15,439 ♪ Through the cool Colorado rain ♪ 2451 02:16:15,472 --> 02:16:17,741 Barlow: Something that wasn't in the movie was, 2452 02:16:17,774 --> 02:16:20,344 behind the scenes, 2453 02:16:20,377 --> 02:16:22,746 there was actually kind of a war going on 2454 02:16:22,779 --> 02:16:26,683 between the acid heads and the coke freaks. 2455 02:16:26,717 --> 02:16:29,286 You know, so, one of the manifestations of this 2456 02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:30,787 that was really hilarious 2457 02:16:30,821 --> 02:16:33,657 was that Rex Jackson positioned himself 2458 02:16:33,690 --> 02:16:35,626 right at the top of the stage stair, 2459 02:16:35,659 --> 02:16:38,829 and he wouldn't let you go on stage unless you took 2460 02:16:38,862 --> 02:16:41,798 another drop out of the Miriam bottle. 2461 02:16:41,832 --> 02:16:44,711 Parish: His thing was, "Well, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do tonight, Steve, 2462 02:16:44,735 --> 02:16:47,271 "I'm giving everybody who comes up these stairs, 2463 02:16:47,304 --> 02:16:50,441 they're gonna get acid, you know, they're gonna just get LSD up the ass, 2464 02:16:50,474 --> 02:16:53,510 and then they'd better fuckin' behave themselves, you know, whatever." 2465 02:16:53,544 --> 02:16:58,249 But it wasn't working, and it was getting crazier. 2466 02:16:58,282 --> 02:17:01,218 You see, he was trying to hold on to 2467 02:17:01,252 --> 02:17:04,888 the camaraderie of the early Grateful Dead. 2468 02:17:04,921 --> 02:17:09,326 Barlow: And sure, it was a great way to keep the coke freaks off the stage. 2469 02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:13,330 But it was also a great way to make the music become 2470 02:17:13,364 --> 02:17:15,566 increasingly more psychedelic.90595

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