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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,677 --> 00:00:13,045 There's a lot of, like, chaos here. 2 00:00:14,048 --> 00:00:16,849 The activity is just destroying my family. 3 00:00:17,985 --> 00:00:22,287 Someone came here to hurt the people here. 4 00:00:22,289 --> 00:00:23,622 I feel like it's demonic. 5 00:00:25,626 --> 00:00:28,027 They're a result of dark magic. 6 00:00:29,430 --> 00:00:32,564 It could be some kind of witchcraft or curses. 7 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:35,500 It is so, so bad. 8 00:00:35,502 --> 00:00:37,636 I can't even imagine now 9 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:40,038 the torture he's going through. 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,274 It's not safe, it's not safe, it's not safe. 11 00:00:43,644 --> 00:00:46,345 Panic, panic, panic. 12 00:00:46,347 --> 00:00:48,480 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:48,482 --> 00:00:50,249 I'm seeing, like, blood. 14 00:00:50,251 --> 00:00:53,351 The house just feels bad. 15 00:00:53,353 --> 00:00:54,920 I see dead people. 16 00:00:54,922 --> 00:00:59,391 This man is completely insane. 17 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:02,360 I speak to dead people. 18 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:04,596 Okay, she doesn't like it in there. 19 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:06,498 And they speak to me. 20 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:08,633 He likes to twist that knife. 21 00:01:08,635 --> 00:01:12,103 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 22 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:15,707 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 23 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:17,275 I rely on my partner. 24 00:01:17,277 --> 00:01:19,044 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 25 00:01:19,046 --> 00:01:21,146 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 26 00:01:21,148 --> 00:01:22,714 Now, does he die right there on the spot? 27 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:26,685 I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:26,687 --> 00:01:29,254 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 29 00:01:29,256 --> 00:01:31,123 It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:31,125 --> 00:01:33,325 You ever get touched like that again? 31 00:01:33,327 --> 00:01:35,093 But Steve and I never speak... 32 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:37,228 We never communicate during an investigation. 33 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:38,696 ...until the very end... 34 00:01:38,698 --> 00:01:40,598 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,634 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:44,836 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 37 00:01:44,838 --> 00:01:46,705 ...or time to get out. 38 00:01:46,707 --> 00:01:49,107 His goal is to kill you guys. 39 00:02:05,926 --> 00:02:07,859 I'm out here in Pinellas Park, Florida. 40 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:09,861 It's about 20 miles west of Tampa. 41 00:02:09,863 --> 00:02:11,596 I got a call from woman named Minou. 42 00:02:11,598 --> 00:02:14,166 Now, she sounded terrible on the phone. 43 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:15,601 Says ever since her adult son 44 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:17,469 moved back into the family house, 45 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:20,071 activity has been violent and out of control. 46 00:02:20,073 --> 00:02:21,873 She says if Amy and I can't stop it, 47 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:24,008 she thinks someone's gonna get killed. 48 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:31,749 Before Amy arrives, 49 00:02:31,751 --> 00:02:34,953 I clear the house of any leading information. 50 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:39,024 Photographs, dream catchers, 51 00:02:39,026 --> 00:02:43,528 and other personal items can influence her findings, 52 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:47,031 so it's important that I cover or remove them all. 53 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,233 When I'm done, 54 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:50,569 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 55 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:06,084 This is bad. 56 00:03:06,086 --> 00:03:07,553 The first thing I get is anxiety -- 57 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:11,923 massive anxiety and digestive disorders in the living, 58 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:13,926 and then I heard jealousy. 59 00:03:16,297 --> 00:03:18,530 It's not safe, it's not safe, it's not safe. 60 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:19,931 They've got to go, they've got to go, 61 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:21,199 they've got to go. 62 00:03:30,878 --> 00:03:32,277 So, Minou, when we spoke on the phone, 63 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:33,912 you didn't sound really great. 64 00:03:33,914 --> 00:03:35,080 Sounds like you're going through hell here. 65 00:03:35,082 --> 00:03:36,348 What's going on? 66 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:38,417 Well, the activity is just out of control 67 00:03:38,419 --> 00:03:42,287 and, I mean, just complete and utter hell. 68 00:03:42,289 --> 00:03:45,757 Aw. 69 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:48,326 I know. I'm sorry, honey. I know. 70 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:51,362 I can only imagine. 71 00:03:51,364 --> 00:03:53,599 So, what kind of things are you guys experiencing? 72 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:56,267 We're feeling we're being watched, 73 00:03:56,269 --> 00:03:58,837 hearing voices, 74 00:03:58,839 --> 00:04:02,707 shadow figures, nightmares, 75 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:05,043 mental and physical health declining, 76 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,311 and physical attacks. 77 00:04:06,313 --> 00:04:07,913 How long have you been here? 78 00:04:07,915 --> 00:04:11,183 Well, my parents built this house in 1977 79 00:04:11,185 --> 00:04:14,586 and I've lived here on and off since then. 80 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:16,054 Do you know any history about the house 81 00:04:16,056 --> 00:04:17,255 that might help me? 82 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:19,991 There's a family friend that died here. 83 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:22,293 And the family friend passed away in the house? 84 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:25,330 Yes, he passed away back in the bedroom 85 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:27,666 where most of the activity is at. 86 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:29,334 Whose room is that now? 87 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:31,136 My son, Jon Paul. 88 00:04:31,138 --> 00:04:33,071 Who else lives in the house with you? 89 00:04:35,242 --> 00:04:36,575 That's my sister, Shannon. 90 00:04:36,577 --> 00:04:37,809 All right. 91 00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:40,211 And that's my son's father, Rick. Okay. 92 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:42,414 That's me, that's my brother, 93 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:44,683 and that's my son, Jon Paul. Okay. 94 00:04:44,685 --> 00:04:46,985 Since my son moved back in, 95 00:04:46,987 --> 00:04:50,088 things have just been getting gradually worse. 96 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:51,956 So you think your son moving back in 97 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,591 caused all these problems here? 98 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:58,096 No. I think it's the girl that he brought over here. 99 00:04:58,098 --> 00:05:00,499 She dabbled in the occult. 100 00:05:00,501 --> 00:05:02,701 It just feels like 101 00:05:02,703 --> 00:05:06,104 maybe she put some kind of curse on him. 102 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:08,440 Okay. Is he having experiences? 103 00:05:08,442 --> 00:05:10,875 He's not been eating. 104 00:05:10,877 --> 00:05:12,444 He's quit his job, 105 00:05:12,446 --> 00:05:14,378 He almost quit school. 106 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:16,948 He's losing weight, and I just feel like 107 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:21,353 his physical and mental health are just diving down. 108 00:05:21,355 --> 00:05:22,721 And you think this has all to do 109 00:05:22,723 --> 00:05:24,256 with the paranormal activity that's going on here? 110 00:05:24,258 --> 00:05:26,725 Yes, I do. 111 00:05:26,727 --> 00:05:28,260 You okay? 112 00:05:28,262 --> 00:05:30,729 I know. 113 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:32,764 It's just hard to see him go through it. 114 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:34,266 Yeah, I know. 115 00:05:34,268 --> 00:05:35,366 It's your baby. 116 00:05:35,368 --> 00:05:37,469 - It's killing me. - I know. 117 00:05:37,471 --> 00:05:40,805 I feel like I'm crazy. 118 00:05:40,807 --> 00:05:42,307 You're not crazy, honey. 119 00:05:42,309 --> 00:05:45,777 I'm so depressed, and it's causing a lot of anxiety. 120 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:47,012 With all the stuff that's going on here, 121 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:48,213 why don't you just move? 122 00:05:48,215 --> 00:05:50,749 To be honest, Steve, I feel like running away. 123 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:52,884 But it's my family home. 124 00:05:52,886 --> 00:05:54,619 I'm not gonna let them win. 125 00:05:54,621 --> 00:05:58,389 This is my house. This is where I live. 126 00:06:02,363 --> 00:06:04,429 Someone is sick here. 127 00:06:04,431 --> 00:06:06,898 Very, very sick. 128 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:08,900 I'm seeing this dead woman. 129 00:06:08,902 --> 00:06:11,770 She has long, dark hair. 130 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:16,207 I feel despair and depression with her. 131 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,977 The living absolutely feel this depression. 132 00:06:23,117 --> 00:06:26,784 It kind of gets worse in here. 133 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:30,055 The living would be susceptible to her energy, 134 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:34,860 and I feel like she is wrapped around this person -- 135 00:06:34,862 --> 00:06:36,661 a male here. 136 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:39,598 Yeah, she's, like, wrapped around them. 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,399 I think there's a connection with 138 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:44,269 whoever that male is that she's with, 139 00:06:44,271 --> 00:06:46,971 which is really wrapped. 140 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:55,447 All right, Minou, so what's going on in here? 141 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:57,549 In this room, there's a chair, 142 00:06:57,551 --> 00:06:59,751 and it moved on its own. 143 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,319 Okay, so what happened? 144 00:07:01,321 --> 00:07:02,821 It just kind of went back, 145 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:05,890 hit the door, and spun around. 146 00:07:05,892 --> 00:07:08,893 And you didn't see anything that could have done that? No. 147 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:11,496 Well, if it can make a chair move like that, 148 00:07:11,498 --> 00:07:12,697 that's pretty dangerous. 149 00:07:12,699 --> 00:07:14,166 - Yeah. - All right, anything else? 150 00:07:14,168 --> 00:07:15,533 Shadow figures. 151 00:07:15,535 --> 00:07:19,137 I see them all the time walking in the living room 152 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:20,372 and outside, 153 00:07:20,374 --> 00:07:22,807 and I think it's somebody at the front door, 154 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:25,109 and I get up and open the door, and nobody's there. 155 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:26,711 Okay, so describe the ones you see 156 00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:27,912 on the inside of the house. 157 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:30,348 Like a gray shadow. 158 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:31,416 Is it something you can see through, 159 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:32,851 or is it something that's kind of misty? 160 00:07:32,853 --> 00:07:35,120 You can see through it, like a shadow on a wall, 161 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:36,454 like somebody walking. Okay. 162 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,857 And the ones you see outside, is it similar? 163 00:07:38,859 --> 00:07:39,991 It's darker. 164 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:41,392 You see more than one? 165 00:07:41,394 --> 00:07:42,460 Sometimes it's one, 166 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:44,929 sometimes it's one, two, three. 167 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:46,264 Is anybody else seeing this stuff, 168 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:47,899 or are you hallucinating, maybe? 169 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:50,335 No, my sister sees them, too. 170 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:51,702 Okay, anything else? 171 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:53,204 As soon as you walk into the house, 172 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:56,007 the whole entire house is just this dark, 173 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:58,777 heavy, weighted feeling on your shoulders. 174 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:00,278 It's a negative kind of thing. 175 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,413 So being exposed to this heavy feeling -- 176 00:08:02,415 --> 00:08:03,815 how does it affect you? 177 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:06,017 I get really fatigued 178 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,653 and very nauseated sometimes. 179 00:08:11,391 --> 00:08:14,492 There's a blond chick who's with me now, 180 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,928 and she's dead. 181 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:19,630 Just anger and hate all over her face, 182 00:08:19,632 --> 00:08:21,900 and she just screamed at me, "Get out!" 183 00:08:23,737 --> 00:08:25,370 I just think the negative energy here 184 00:08:25,372 --> 00:08:27,539 does make people sick. 185 00:08:27,541 --> 00:08:29,507 Oohee, oohee, oohee, oohee, oohee. 186 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:31,109 I'm getting a head pain. 187 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,919 Okay, so, Minou, what's the story with this room? 188 00:08:40,921 --> 00:08:42,720 Well, this is the room that I grew up in, 189 00:08:42,722 --> 00:08:45,089 and this is where my son sleeps now. 190 00:08:45,091 --> 00:08:46,724 Okay, so what's going on? 191 00:08:46,726 --> 00:08:48,726 I have a lot of physical pain. 192 00:08:48,728 --> 00:08:51,563 I get terrible migraines. 193 00:08:51,565 --> 00:08:53,798 Now, do you have any kind of medical condition 194 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,266 that might cause that kind of pain? 195 00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:56,734 I have fibromyalgia, 196 00:08:56,736 --> 00:08:59,804 but when I'm here, it just seems so bad 197 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:03,040 and when I leave, it seems to be better. 198 00:09:03,042 --> 00:09:04,442 Okay. Anything else? 199 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:06,645 Yeah, I have nightmares all the time. 200 00:09:06,647 --> 00:09:08,746 Okay. What kind of nightmares are we talking about? 201 00:09:08,748 --> 00:09:11,249 I had a dream where I was being choked, 202 00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:14,185 and I woke up and I couldn't barely breathe. 203 00:09:14,187 --> 00:09:15,586 It was terrible. 204 00:09:15,588 --> 00:09:18,923 I've never in my life experienced something like that. 205 00:09:18,925 --> 00:09:20,024 Who was choking you? 206 00:09:20,026 --> 00:09:21,359 I don't know. 207 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:23,094 Aw, come here. Come on. 208 00:09:23,096 --> 00:09:24,295 I know you're stressing out. 209 00:09:24,297 --> 00:09:26,164 Relax. Okay? 210 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:28,366 Relax. 211 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,904 How's all this activity affecting your relationship 212 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:35,406 with your son? 213 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:37,575 We've always had a really good relationship, 214 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:41,012 and lately, just hasn't been there. All right. 215 00:09:41,014 --> 00:09:42,781 These things are happening to him, 216 00:09:42,783 --> 00:09:44,315 and they're for real. 217 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:47,352 He's being attacked through all of this. 218 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:48,720 Okay. 219 00:09:48,722 --> 00:09:52,023 These things are destroying my family. 220 00:09:54,861 --> 00:09:57,596 There are attacks coming from here. 221 00:09:57,598 --> 00:10:00,831 I feel like it is possibly the blonde. 222 00:10:00,833 --> 00:10:07,138 She is jealous because she wants to be alive again, 223 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:10,274 but she mainly does it because she hates everybody 224 00:10:10,276 --> 00:10:14,345 and she's pissed off and she's miserable. 225 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:17,815 So I just see her smothering a person, 226 00:10:17,817 --> 00:10:19,484 trying to kill them. 227 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,473 So, Shannon, I understand you're Minou's sister 228 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:44,509 and that you live here, actually. 229 00:10:44,511 --> 00:10:45,677 Yes. 230 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,812 She called us in because of her concern 231 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,013 for her son, Jon. 232 00:10:49,015 --> 00:10:50,615 Do you have concerns for him, as well? 233 00:10:50,617 --> 00:10:51,750 Very much so. 234 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:54,085 The way he acts is completely different. 235 00:10:54,087 --> 00:10:55,052 Okay. 236 00:10:55,054 --> 00:10:56,354 Now, your sister mentioned to me 237 00:10:56,356 --> 00:10:57,422 that within the last year, 238 00:10:57,424 --> 00:10:59,690 the activities really got crazy. 239 00:10:59,692 --> 00:11:00,992 Does that make sense to you? 240 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,159 Yes, that's correct. 241 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:04,095 Okay. As far as experiences go, 242 00:11:04,097 --> 00:11:06,164 I'm pretty confident you probably have had some, right? 243 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:07,765 - Many, many experiences. - Okay. 244 00:11:07,767 --> 00:11:09,167 Let's talk about some of them. 245 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:13,104 Okay, well, I've seen, like, different shadow figures 246 00:11:13,106 --> 00:11:16,707 throughout the house, outside and inside. 247 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:20,512 Your sister mentioned to me about shadow figures, as well. 248 00:11:20,514 --> 00:11:23,014 So when you see these shadow figures, how many are you seeing? 249 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,849 Sometimes three, four in a row, 250 00:11:24,851 --> 00:11:27,852 just walking past the TV down the hallway. 251 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:30,688 Okay. Do they feel threatening to you? 252 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:31,956 Yes. 253 00:11:31,958 --> 00:11:34,492 I feel like it's demonic. 254 00:11:34,494 --> 00:11:36,594 So, anything else? 255 00:11:36,596 --> 00:11:40,298 I've been touched in some really inappropriate ways. 256 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:43,201 Okay, honey. You okay? 257 00:11:43,203 --> 00:11:45,637 Yeah. 258 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:46,971 Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this 259 00:11:46,973 --> 00:11:48,539 and get this fixed. 260 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:50,841 Anything else going on? 261 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:53,377 There's just a lot of negative energy in the house. 262 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:56,414 Feel so drained, really bad anxiety. 263 00:11:56,416 --> 00:11:57,715 And when you leave here, do you feel any better? 264 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,417 If I'm gone for a couple days, yeah, 265 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:01,219 I start to feel a little better. 266 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:04,221 But when we come back in, it's just like, "" 267 00:12:04,223 --> 00:12:05,356 It's really difficult. 268 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:09,961 It's like every day is just one more day 269 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:12,163 that you're living in hell. 270 00:12:14,701 --> 00:12:20,104 Spending time in here is not really good. 271 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:25,977 It feels like overwhelming despair, 272 00:12:25,979 --> 00:12:28,780 hopelessness, 273 00:12:28,782 --> 00:12:31,883 depression, anxiety, 274 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:35,319 and then I feel sick, like I'm gonna vomit. 275 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:37,555 Oooh, it's bad. 276 00:12:37,557 --> 00:12:39,990 My head hurts a lot. 277 00:12:42,528 --> 00:12:44,829 There are some weird shadow things out here. 278 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,969 They kind of look like rats. 279 00:12:50,971 --> 00:12:54,672 And they were, like, laughing 280 00:12:54,674 --> 00:12:58,242 and trying to make us go away, 281 00:12:58,244 --> 00:13:02,713 and I feel like that they were put here by someone. 282 00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:05,883 I know that they're destructive to the living, 283 00:13:05,885 --> 00:13:09,120 'cause these things are not good at all. 284 00:13:14,827 --> 00:13:16,360 So, Jon, your mom called us in 285 00:13:16,362 --> 00:13:17,896 'cause she's pretty concerned that something here 286 00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:18,830 is going after you. 287 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:20,365 Now, do you agree with that? 288 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:22,567 Yeah, I kind of keep it to myself. 289 00:13:22,569 --> 00:13:25,436 It's easier to, like, convince myself 290 00:13:25,438 --> 00:13:28,839 that it's not real, or that it's just in my head. Okay. 291 00:13:28,841 --> 00:13:30,975 Mom said to me that the activity here 292 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:34,044 really got crazy once you moved back in.- 293 00:13:34,046 --> 00:13:36,447 She mentioned that she thought 294 00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:38,182 the girl you were seeing that was into the occult 295 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:40,117 might have put a curse on you guys. 296 00:13:40,119 --> 00:13:41,518 Did you ever think about that? 297 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,321 Yeah, I mean, it's something I've considered. 298 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:46,191 It could be, you know, 299 00:13:46,193 --> 00:13:50,160 some kind of witchcraft or curses or something. 300 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:53,063 Have you experienced paranormal before you moved here? 301 00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:54,265 Yeah. 302 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:55,933 So, let's talk about your experiences. 303 00:13:55,935 --> 00:13:57,534 What are you going through? 304 00:13:57,536 --> 00:14:01,339 Anxiety, you know, nightmares, 305 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:02,539 sleeplessness. 306 00:14:02,541 --> 00:14:04,008 What kind of nightmares are we talking about? 307 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:06,710 I'll be, like, asleep, and I had my arm out, 308 00:14:06,712 --> 00:14:08,679 and it was strange -- 309 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:11,349 like someone, like, tried to 310 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:14,619 almost kind of pull me out of my body, I guess. 311 00:14:14,621 --> 00:14:17,088 It's something I deal with all the time. 312 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:19,223 Okay, all right. So anything else? 313 00:14:19,225 --> 00:14:20,525 Just voices. 314 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,960 How often are you hearing this? 315 00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:25,296 All the time, unless I actively block it out. 316 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:26,764 What do you think these voices are? 317 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:30,034 I'm not sure, but I think they're demonic. 318 00:14:30,036 --> 00:14:31,702 All right, so anything else? 319 00:14:31,704 --> 00:14:34,405 I see things, like a mist. 320 00:14:34,407 --> 00:14:35,940 It's almost like an energy. 321 00:14:35,942 --> 00:14:37,175 It's hard to explain. 322 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:38,810 You get any kind of a vibe from it? 323 00:14:38,812 --> 00:14:41,846 Yeah, but it's never anything positive. 324 00:14:41,848 --> 00:14:44,382 Any thought as to what you think this thing 325 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:45,650 wants from you? 326 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:48,186 I feel it's already trying to hurt people 327 00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:50,054 in my family. 328 00:14:54,594 --> 00:14:56,927 I'm getting a living male saying, 329 00:14:56,929 --> 00:14:58,329 "I don't want to be involved with this. 330 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:01,799 Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this?" 331 00:15:01,801 --> 00:15:04,535 This person seems very angry, 332 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,837 confused, upset. 333 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:08,673 Feels like an angry teenager. 334 00:15:08,675 --> 00:15:10,541 But it might be older, 335 00:15:10,543 --> 00:15:13,878 so I'd say, like, maybe 20s to 30s. 336 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,882 There's a lot of, like, chaos here, mentally. 337 00:15:20,219 --> 00:15:23,888 I think it has to do with those shadow-rat creatures. 338 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:26,357 Those little rats throughout here -- 339 00:15:26,359 --> 00:15:27,958 I'd say 20. 340 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,893 Do you have any idea what these things are? 341 00:15:29,895 --> 00:15:33,964 They're a result of bad or dark magic, 342 00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:36,534 kind of like a curse of some kind. 343 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:42,639 Someone came here to hurt the people here. 344 00:15:42,641 --> 00:15:44,042 You know if the living would see these things 345 00:15:44,044 --> 00:15:45,642 or have any other experiences with them? 346 00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:47,378 I think that they would see them. 347 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:49,780 They're very physical. 348 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:51,382 They would hear them laughing. 349 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:55,553 They would experience far more anger, 350 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:58,522 depression, fatigue. 351 00:15:58,524 --> 00:16:01,059 They would have random illnesses. 352 00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:05,596 Nothing good can stay in this house. 353 00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:07,665 No good energy, not happiness -- 354 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:11,502 nothing like that can survive in this place. 355 00:16:25,819 --> 00:16:28,218 Minou says a friend of the family died in the house 356 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:29,387 back in the '90s, 357 00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:31,389 so I made some calls, and she's right. 358 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:32,590 Turns out the guy was really 359 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:34,926 a good friend of Minou's brother, Jack. 360 00:16:34,928 --> 00:16:36,060 So I'm headed back to the house 361 00:16:36,062 --> 00:16:37,628 to find out exactly what happened. 362 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:44,402 Well, Jack, thanks for sitting down with me. 363 00:16:44,404 --> 00:16:45,636 I appreciate that. 364 00:16:45,638 --> 00:16:46,904 Now, I understand you were pretty close 365 00:16:46,906 --> 00:16:48,606 with the guy that died in the house. 366 00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:49,707 What can you tell me about him? 367 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:51,241 His name was Lloyd Ferris. 368 00:16:51,243 --> 00:16:54,178 He moved from upstate New York 369 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,380 to Florida, here, in this area, 370 00:16:56,382 --> 00:16:57,882 in the mid-'80s. 371 00:16:57,884 --> 00:17:00,718 He met my mother at an AA meeting, 372 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,588 and they kind of hit it off as friends, 373 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:06,123 and he needed a place to stay 374 00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:08,726 and she had an open room, so he moved in. 375 00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:10,962 It all became like he was family. 376 00:17:10,964 --> 00:17:12,296 What kind of a man was he? 377 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:13,731 He was kind of quiet. 378 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:17,702 He was fairly tall, shortish gray hair. 379 00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:19,637 Do you have any photos of him? 380 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:23,975 No, he really never wanted his picture taken. 381 00:17:23,977 --> 00:17:25,042 What else do you know about him? 382 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:27,177 He was married and had four children. 383 00:17:27,179 --> 00:17:29,780 At some point, he became estranged 384 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:32,016 from his ex and his children. 385 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,518 They didn't talk. - Okay. 386 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,587 You think that had something to do with the drinking? 387 00:17:36,589 --> 00:17:39,323 I think it's a real good possibility. 388 00:17:39,325 --> 00:17:40,625 It really hurt him bad 389 00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:43,261 that he didn't really get to see his children. 390 00:17:43,263 --> 00:17:45,296 Can you take me through the day he died? 391 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:48,199 It was March 31st, 1995. 392 00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:50,201 Okay. 393 00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:53,804 He had gone in to take a shower 394 00:17:53,806 --> 00:17:56,006 and went into the bedroom 395 00:17:56,008 --> 00:18:00,744 and laid down in the bed and passed away. 396 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:02,814 We're fairly certain that it was a heart attack. 397 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:04,148 How old was he? 398 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:05,550 67. 399 00:18:05,552 --> 00:18:08,085 I'm curious -- do you think Lloyd is here, 400 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,420 in the house? 401 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:11,655 I definitely believe he's here. 402 00:18:11,657 --> 00:18:14,958 I think he helps try to protect the family 403 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,428 and the house from whatever's going on. Okay. 404 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:21,231 But he's not strong enough to stop whatever it is. 405 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:26,703 Somebody dropped dead from a heart attack here. 406 00:18:26,705 --> 00:18:28,372 It was an older male. 407 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:34,745 Do you have any idea how long ago this was? 408 00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:36,280 This is fairly recent. 409 00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:39,182 I wouldn't go earlier than the '90s, 410 00:18:39,184 --> 00:18:40,318 I don't think. 411 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:50,394 He has lots of worry about children. 412 00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:55,232 I think he's trying to talk mostly to a male. 413 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:56,400 This male -- living male -- 414 00:18:56,402 --> 00:18:59,336 does not want to even deal with any of this. 415 00:18:59,338 --> 00:19:03,341 I feel like the males are related. 416 00:19:03,343 --> 00:19:08,245 He says that he keeps trying to tell them to move, 417 00:19:08,247 --> 00:19:09,680 to get out of the house. 418 00:19:09,682 --> 00:19:11,549 It's not safe. 419 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:14,752 I don't know what Amy's gonna find on her walk, 420 00:19:14,754 --> 00:19:16,687 but to me, some of the experiences 421 00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:19,023 the family's having could be easily explained, 422 00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,491 so I've called in a home inspector 423 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:22,560 to see if any of this could be environmental. 424 00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:29,800 The reason I called you in 425 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:33,504 is my clients here are having some strange experiences 426 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,472 and mood issues and stuff like that. 427 00:19:35,474 --> 00:19:36,907 Some of the stuff they're talking about 428 00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:38,876 they're going through sounds like hallucinations. 429 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:40,044 I've been doing this a long time, 430 00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,845 and I can't blame everything on the paranormal. 431 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:43,781 Sometimes it could be environmental -- 432 00:19:43,783 --> 00:19:46,117 you know, like maybe carbon monoxide or mold. 433 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,218 So can you do some testing to see 434 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,186 if maybe that's the issue? 435 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:51,389 I can do some air sampling. 436 00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:53,324 I'll do one on the inside and one on the outside, 437 00:19:53,326 --> 00:19:54,525 compare the two. 438 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:55,659 Thanks, buddy. I appreciate that. 439 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:56,727 Let me know what you find out. 440 00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,062 I'll get started on it. 441 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,399 When you work a homicide, 442 00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:04,001 you have to rule out the obvious first, 443 00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,538 and that's exactly what I'm doing here. 444 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:09,407 If there's an environmental issue, 445 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:11,175 it might explain why everyone in the house 446 00:20:11,177 --> 00:20:14,278 is seeing and hearing so many of the same things. 447 00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:21,151 All right, Brad, so how'd it go? 448 00:20:21,153 --> 00:20:23,821 I did find a roof leak in the back -- 449 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:25,756 little bit of mold on it. Okay. 450 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:28,825 I did find a spot of mold under the air handler 451 00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:30,895 in the hallway. 452 00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,296 But other than that, 453 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:34,765 I don't see any major problems with this home. 454 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:35,966 All right, so it doesn't sound like 455 00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:37,435 there's enough mold there that would cause 456 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:39,637 any kind of hallucinations or any kind of mood changes 457 00:20:39,639 --> 00:20:40,838 or anything like that. 458 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,706 I wouldn't think so, no. 459 00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:46,077 All right, so now I know it's not environmental. 460 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,312 It's got to be something else. 461 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:52,182 Those shadow-rat things 462 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,385 are trapping the negative energy inside. 463 00:20:55,387 --> 00:20:56,854 They're putting up blocks. Paranormal. 464 00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,056 No, that negativity ain't leaving. 465 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:00,658 They'll let the negative in. 466 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:02,793 They won't let the negative energy out, though. 467 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:06,297 Now it just spins and becomes more and more dark. 468 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:11,368 And they are preventing any energy 469 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:14,805 from like, you know, spreading around 470 00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:16,073 or cleansing or anything. 471 00:21:16,075 --> 00:21:17,208 That's why it's circled back 472 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:18,743 and it's just circling around this house 473 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:20,811 and turning black and black and black. 474 00:21:27,886 --> 00:21:29,820 For more information about the show, 475 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,355 and if you need us to investigate 476 00:21:31,357 --> 00:21:33,357 unexplained activity in your home... 477 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,760 ...please visit TravelChannel.com/TheDeadFiles, 478 00:21:36,762 --> 00:21:38,696 click on "Help Me, Dead Files" to submit your story, 479 00:21:38,698 --> 00:21:39,697 and we'll help if we can. 480 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:50,674 Here's what I got so far -- 481 00:21:50,676 --> 00:21:53,143 a client who believes a curse has been placed on her home 482 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:55,212 and a family friend who dropped dead of a heart attack 483 00:21:55,214 --> 00:21:56,814 in one of the bedrooms. 484 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,783 But I'm thinking there's got to be something else. 485 00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:04,488 Searching through old records, 486 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,156 I come across Milton Bryan, 487 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,092 who used to own Minou's property. 488 00:22:10,396 --> 00:22:13,831 Turns out, Milton's wife killed herself. 489 00:22:18,037 --> 00:22:20,337 You know, I got to know more about this suicide, 490 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,005 so I've reached out to a local professor 491 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,874 who's looking into this for me, 492 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:25,542 and she says she's got some information 493 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:27,411 that will definitely help my case. 494 00:22:35,254 --> 00:22:36,187 So now, Dr. Stark, 495 00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:37,921 I know one of the original owners 496 00:22:37,923 --> 00:22:40,191 of my client's property's wife committed suicide, 497 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,725 but before we even get to that part, 498 00:22:41,727 --> 00:22:43,060 what do we know about him? 499 00:22:43,062 --> 00:22:45,796 Milton Bryan is kind of a really interesting fellow. 500 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:47,631 He started off as a blue-collar worker. 501 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:48,799 He was a butcher, 502 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:50,768 and he decided to go into the dairy business. 503 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:52,035 He was very, very successful. 504 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:54,271 He had, at the peak, 400 head of cattle, 505 00:22:54,273 --> 00:22:56,473 1,100 acres, which was quite good. 506 00:22:56,475 --> 00:22:58,442 And that encompassed my client's property? 507 00:22:58,444 --> 00:22:59,610 That is correct. 508 00:22:59,612 --> 00:23:02,012 So, obviously he was married. When did he get married? 509 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:03,881 - Well, he has two wives. - Okay. 510 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:07,684 The first wife is Blanche. He's 22, she's 21. 511 00:23:07,686 --> 00:23:08,953 They seemed to kind of get along, 512 00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:11,221 except that there's no children for four years. 513 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:13,123 Do we think it had something to do with maybe 514 00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:15,092 issues with the marriage or anything like that? 515 00:23:15,094 --> 00:23:16,359 Absolutely, yeah. 516 00:23:16,361 --> 00:23:18,562 Blanche had these odd bouts of illness, 517 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:20,631 so she'd go to her family's farm 518 00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:22,299 to rest and recover. 519 00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:24,101 Now, do we know anything about these illnesses? 520 00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:25,302 There is some speculation 521 00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:26,337 that it might have been depression, 522 00:23:26,339 --> 00:23:28,772 or perhaps postpartum issues. 523 00:23:28,774 --> 00:23:30,407 Now, we know she commits suicide. 524 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:31,575 What happened? 525 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:34,578 She has a second child named Mavis 526 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:36,780 in January of 1924. 527 00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:38,415 This child does not do well. 528 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:42,119 By April 8th of 1924, Mavis died. 529 00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:43,721 Later the same day, she actually got 530 00:23:43,723 --> 00:23:46,791 a.32 caliber pistol, climbed into bed, 531 00:23:46,793 --> 00:23:49,459 put the pistol to her forehead, and pulled the trigger 532 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:51,194 and died instantly. 533 00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:53,230 - Wow. - There's the article. 534 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:55,999 She was 33 years old, and her body was discovered 535 00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:58,001 by her 7-year-old daughter, Lorraine. 536 00:23:58,003 --> 00:23:59,903 I've been there where I've had to deal with 537 00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:02,606 young children that found a parent 538 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:03,807 that committed suicide, 539 00:24:03,809 --> 00:24:06,610 and they don't bounce back from that. No. 540 00:24:06,612 --> 00:24:08,846 So now we've got Milton here, 541 00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:11,549 who lost a kid, lost his wife.- 542 00:24:11,551 --> 00:24:13,083 What does he do after that? 543 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:16,319 Within seven months, he remarries. 544 00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:19,723 He marries a woman by the name of Pansy -- 545 00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:21,492 Pansy Tenor. 546 00:24:21,494 --> 00:24:22,826 This guy didn't waste no time. 547 00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:24,295 She was 18 years old, 548 00:24:24,297 --> 00:24:26,696 and he was 34 when they married. 549 00:24:26,698 --> 00:24:28,766 Okay, so Milton's remarried at this point. 550 00:24:28,768 --> 00:24:29,900 What happens next? 551 00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:31,234 They actually have two sons, 552 00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:33,437 and it seems to be a really decent marriage. 553 00:24:33,439 --> 00:24:35,172 They stayed together. 554 00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:37,942 He dies in 1947 of a massive heart attack 555 00:24:37,944 --> 00:24:39,710 at 57 years of age. 556 00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:40,911 Wow. 557 00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:44,047 Now, I do have his death certificate. 558 00:24:44,049 --> 00:24:45,683 And he dies on my client's property? 559 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:47,317 That's correct, yes. 560 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:55,159 The blond lady's here, ranting and raving. 561 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:58,995 She had been brought here by a living person 562 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:00,530 who couldn't get over her death 563 00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:02,198 and now she's stuck here. 564 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,034 Do you have any idea on who it was 565 00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:05,402 that did that to her? 566 00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:08,272 I think it was an older man who did this. 567 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:10,341 It seemed like she got married young, 568 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:12,475 and I think she was kind of forced into that, 569 00:25:12,477 --> 00:25:18,449 and then there was a death very soon afterwards. 570 00:25:18,451 --> 00:25:21,685 I think she had a child, and she didn't want children. 571 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:24,889 The way she treated that child was not good. 572 00:25:24,891 --> 00:25:26,423 I do see a gun. 573 00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:29,860 I don't know if she killed herself. 574 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,828 So she got, like, a raw deal. 575 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,964 She's beyond angry. 576 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:35,632 She goes on a rampage, 577 00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:38,168 and then everybody has to pay for the situation she's in. 578 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:41,171 She says, "It was a short life, and it sucked. 579 00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:44,641 Now I'm dead, and I'm trapped here." 580 00:25:52,251 --> 00:25:55,852 I saw several horrifying things during my walk, 581 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:58,388 but two stood out -- 582 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:01,358 first, the dead woman attacking a living person. 583 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,560 The dead lady had blond hair, 584 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:05,529 very well done. 585 00:26:05,531 --> 00:26:08,531 and she was in the process of trying 586 00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:12,269 to smother this kid in the bed 587 00:26:12,271 --> 00:26:15,939 by covering her mouth and pinching her nose. 588 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:21,011 Next, I described the rat creatures 589 00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:23,747 trapping bad energy inside the house. 590 00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:26,216 They were all on their hind legs. 591 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:29,152 I would say they were about, like, this tall. 592 00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:38,929 Amy, is this what you saw? 593 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,299 Yes, that's what I saw. 594 00:27:02,688 --> 00:27:05,722 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 595 00:27:05,724 --> 00:27:07,657 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 596 00:27:07,659 --> 00:27:11,428 and our clients for the first time. 597 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,130 Well, Amy, this is Minou. 598 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,597 Her story broke my heart. 599 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,034 She's hurting, and I hope and pray 600 00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:19,302 at the end of this, we can bring her some hope. 601 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,106 This is her sister, Shannon, who lives here 602 00:27:22,108 --> 00:27:26,510 along with their brother, Jack, 603 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:28,512 Minou's ex, Rick. 604 00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:31,047 This is her son, Jon. 605 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,249 Now, nobody feels safe, 606 00:27:33,251 --> 00:27:35,652 and they all feel that if we can't help them, 607 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:38,455 somebody's gonna get seriously hurt. 608 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:40,490 So now that Amy knows who you guys are, 609 00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:42,793 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 610 00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:49,332 The first thing that I got was in the hallway. 611 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:53,704 This was energy off of a living person that's here, 612 00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:56,073 and I heard, "I don't want to be involved in this. 613 00:27:56,075 --> 00:27:57,874 Why are you doing this?" 614 00:27:57,876 --> 00:28:02,011 And there seemed to be a lot of mental chaos. 615 00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:06,282 I felt like the individual was really, really immature. 616 00:28:06,284 --> 00:28:08,885 The emotion and the mental state seemed like, 617 00:28:08,887 --> 00:28:12,622 you know, when teenagers are going nuts, 618 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:15,025 but I kept thinking that this person 619 00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:18,695 is older than that -- maybe in their 20s or 30s. 620 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,563 One of the main reasons Minou called us in 621 00:28:20,565 --> 00:28:21,965 was because of her son, Jon, 622 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:23,634 and she's really worried about him. 623 00:28:23,636 --> 00:28:26,303 Tell Amy how he's changed. 624 00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:29,673 He doesn't hardly eat, he doesn't hardly sleep, 625 00:28:29,675 --> 00:28:32,576 and he is very immature. 626 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:34,644 - How old is he? - He's 30. 627 00:28:39,284 --> 00:28:41,718 He seems like a tortured soul to me. 628 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,588 He is. It's terrible. 629 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:46,523 Where does he sleep? 630 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,792 He sleeps in the back bedroom to the right. 631 00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:50,059 Really? 632 00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:55,065 I did get that there was a deceased female 633 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:58,869 who has latched on to a male in that bedroom. 634 00:28:58,871 --> 00:29:03,573 Long brown hair, pale skin, very thin. 635 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:08,077 Is it possible that she would 636 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:09,913 want him to herself? 637 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:11,948 Yeah, she's on him -- 638 00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:15,385 like, literally wrapped around him. 639 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,826 You need a break, honey? 640 00:29:22,828 --> 00:29:25,229 I'll be okay. 641 00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:31,000 All right, so what else? 642 00:29:31,002 --> 00:29:34,538 This other person that I encountered is another woman. 643 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,240 This one is a blonde. 644 00:29:36,242 --> 00:29:38,141 Very, very unhappy dead person. 645 00:29:38,143 --> 00:29:40,377 She feels like she never got a chance to live 646 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:43,046 the life she wanted to live. 647 00:29:43,048 --> 00:29:44,581 She wanted a career, 648 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,516 but instead, she married very young. 649 00:29:46,518 --> 00:29:48,452 Did not want to be a housewife. 650 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,555 So I don't think that she wanted to be a mother. 651 00:29:51,557 --> 00:29:53,390 She said she died young, 652 00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:56,026 which makes her even more upset. 653 00:29:56,028 --> 00:30:00,063 She might have been around 27 when she died. 654 00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:03,600 She died unusually, but I'm not exactly sure how. 655 00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:05,035 I know she didn't die here. 656 00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:06,636 She kept saying, "I don't belong here" 657 00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:08,138 over and over. 658 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:11,942 After she died, family member brought her here 659 00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:15,112 because that person just couldn't get over her death. 660 00:30:15,114 --> 00:30:17,281 Then when that person died, 661 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,616 they moved on, but she didn't. 662 00:30:19,618 --> 00:30:23,620 She got stuck here, and she's pissed. 663 00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:24,888 It kind of sounds like somebody 664 00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:26,857 I came across in my research. 665 00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:28,291 Her name was Blanche Bryan, 666 00:30:28,293 --> 00:30:31,161 and her life was short and tragic. 667 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:32,429 She married in 1912 668 00:30:32,431 --> 00:30:35,666 to a blue-collar farmer named Milton Bryan. 669 00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:37,801 So the expert I spoke to said that 670 00:30:37,803 --> 00:30:40,303 she thought that Milton and Blanche's 671 00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:42,438 relationship was pretty rotten 672 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,607 because she spent a lot of time 673 00:30:43,609 --> 00:30:45,475 going back to her parents' house, 674 00:30:45,477 --> 00:30:47,411 blaming mysterious illnesses. 675 00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:48,645 It could have been depression 676 00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:50,580 or some other kind of mental illness. 677 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,182 We're not sure. 678 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:55,485 Now, in 1916, their daughter Lorraine was born. 679 00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:57,988 They didn't have a second kid for almost eight years. 680 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:59,289 Her name was Mavis. 681 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,992 Now, the baby was sickly, and she died three months later 682 00:31:01,994 --> 00:31:04,728 on April 8th, 1924. 683 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:06,263 It was too much for Blanche. 684 00:31:06,265 --> 00:31:08,398 That same day, she took a.32 revolver 685 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,969 and put it to her forehead and blew her brains out. 686 00:31:11,971 --> 00:31:13,737 My God. 687 00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:17,674 She was only 33 years old at the time. 688 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:20,777 Amy, you said the woman you saw didn't die here. 689 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:25,015 Blanche died at her parents' house one county over. 690 00:31:25,017 --> 00:31:27,016 Now, can this blond woman you saw 691 00:31:27,018 --> 00:31:28,618 mess with the living people here? 692 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,554 Yes. I got that she affects the living in several ways. 693 00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:33,757 First, she makes people sick to their stomachs, 694 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:34,992 so there's nausea. 695 00:31:34,994 --> 00:31:37,994 She can give you massive headaches. 696 00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,763 Terrible headaches. 697 00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:41,365 - Okay. - Terrible, terrible headaches. 698 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:45,235 It just feels like my brains are smashing against my skull. 699 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,703 She can get physical -- 700 00:31:46,705 --> 00:31:48,771 like just shoving people or pushing people, 701 00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:51,975 also pinching people while they're sleeping. 702 00:31:51,977 --> 00:31:53,443 You know, I didn't want to bring it up, 703 00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,278 but you had some inappropriate touching. 704 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,114 Correct. 705 00:31:57,116 --> 00:31:58,748 It's hard for me to describe, but, like, 706 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,785 I would sleep, and I would wake up 707 00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:04,121 feeling as though 708 00:32:04,123 --> 00:32:08,458 someone was touching me inappropriately. 709 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:09,859 Like, after that happened, 710 00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:11,394 it just, like, kept reoccurring. 711 00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:14,131 It happened like at least four or five times. 712 00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:18,602 I don't understand. What have I done? 713 00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:22,004 So, this blond lady do anything else? 714 00:32:22,006 --> 00:32:23,573 What I saw was her messing with 715 00:32:23,575 --> 00:32:25,809 somebody in the bedroom with two beds, 716 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:29,312 and she did say she hates the people in that room. 717 00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:31,581 She was hovering over someone who was sleeping 718 00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:34,050 and trying to smother them. 719 00:32:34,052 --> 00:32:36,320 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 720 00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:49,032 Geez. 721 00:33:04,082 --> 00:33:06,516 My God. 722 00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:08,852 My God. 723 00:33:08,854 --> 00:33:11,121 My granddaughter sleeps in that room. 724 00:33:11,123 --> 00:33:13,056 You think that's your granddaughter in that bed? 725 00:33:19,398 --> 00:33:22,199 All right, so I'm gonna get on to 726 00:33:22,201 --> 00:33:24,801 the other deceased individual that's here. 727 00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:29,373 So, this is a dead male -- extremely present here. 728 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:32,675 I got that he's an older white male with white hair. 729 00:33:32,677 --> 00:33:35,078 I got that he was either a family member 730 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,914 or friend of a living male who's here. 731 00:33:37,916 --> 00:33:40,617 I got that this male died from a heart attack. 732 00:33:40,619 --> 00:33:43,620 Felt like this happened recently. 733 00:33:43,622 --> 00:33:45,721 One thing that stood out about him 734 00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:48,357 was that he's extremely worried about his children. 735 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:49,926 When he's around, you'd feel like 736 00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:52,229 you need to get out of the house. 737 00:33:52,231 --> 00:33:55,331 And he does this on purpose 738 00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:58,301 because he's trying to send a warning to the living 739 00:33:58,303 --> 00:34:01,438 about something even more dangerous that's here. 740 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,707 He's trying to tell you to help save yourselves. 741 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:06,442 Well, I got a pretty good idea 742 00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:08,712 who she's talking about. 743 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,513 His name was Lloyd Ferris. Yep. 744 00:34:10,515 --> 00:34:13,850 And he was a friend of Minou and her family 745 00:34:13,852 --> 00:34:15,752 for a very long time. 746 00:34:15,754 --> 00:34:19,322 The spare bedroom he slept in is where Jon sleeps in now. 747 00:34:19,324 --> 00:34:21,724 Now, he wound up living here for about 10 years, right? 748 00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,160 - Something like that. - Yeah. 749 00:34:23,162 --> 00:34:24,794 Yeah, he was like one of us. 750 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:28,198 Now, in March of 1995, 751 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,133 he died of a heart attack in that room. 752 00:34:31,269 --> 00:34:33,503 So I got his death certificate here. 753 00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:37,540 I feel fine with him here. 754 00:34:37,542 --> 00:34:39,242 I mean, he's trying to protect us. 755 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,178 But I'd like to see him move on. 756 00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:45,214 So, it sounds like Lloyd is trying to warn them. 757 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,216 Warn them about what, though? 758 00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:52,055 It's kind of weird. 759 00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:56,025 So, I'm in the backyard. I see a bunch of things. 760 00:34:56,027 --> 00:35:00,696 And they looked like really large rats. 761 00:35:00,698 --> 00:35:02,265 So there's about 20 of them, 762 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:06,769 and they've formed a perimeter around the house, 763 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:10,540 and what they do is they attract negative energy 764 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,642 and trap it inside the house. 765 00:35:12,644 --> 00:35:13,844 Being surrounded by the negative energy 766 00:35:13,846 --> 00:35:15,645 can cause physical illness. 767 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:17,847 I got nausea, again, vomiting, 768 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,749 diarrhea, and feeling drained. 769 00:35:19,751 --> 00:35:22,318 Well, Minou, let's talk about you being nauseated. 770 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,521 Sometimes I just get nauseated, 771 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,922 can't eat, 772 00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:28,591 and I'm just exhausted -- 773 00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:31,995 just completely exhausted 774 00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:35,332 for no reason. 775 00:35:35,334 --> 00:35:37,600 Now, Shannon, you told me about being drained. 776 00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:41,605 Yeah. I mean, even tonight, I'm physically just worn out. 777 00:35:41,607 --> 00:35:43,740 I just want to leave. 778 00:35:43,742 --> 00:35:47,210 This negative energy can also affect people's moods 779 00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:50,079 and change their personalities. 780 00:35:50,081 --> 00:35:51,814 I know I've been told by two people 781 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:53,883 I'm crushing their spirits... 782 00:35:53,885 --> 00:35:55,518 No. 783 00:35:58,456 --> 00:36:01,825 ...because I'm so mean. 784 00:36:01,827 --> 00:36:04,227 I don't mean to be mean. 785 00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:10,767 I try so hard. 786 00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:13,637 But I had Shannon tell me I was crushing her spirit, 787 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:18,107 and then my son told me the same thing. 788 00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:20,109 Jon's personality has changed, as well. 789 00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,211 Yeah. 790 00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:24,848 Dealing with it -- it's just killing me. 791 00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:26,782 It's just killing me. 792 00:36:26,784 --> 00:36:30,453 I'm tired of living through all this. 793 00:36:30,455 --> 00:36:31,787 What I'm curious about 794 00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:33,756 is what these little rat bastards look like. 795 00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:35,592 I did have a sketch done. 796 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:48,371 You weren't kidding, were you? 797 00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:54,744 What's that? 798 00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:02,552 Is this black, swirly stuff the bad energy? 799 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:05,021 - Yes. - Okay. 800 00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:06,823 Jon mentioned to me about seeing 801 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:10,293 some kind of a swirly energy... 802 00:37:10,295 --> 00:37:11,427 that was white. 803 00:37:11,429 --> 00:37:13,430 İnteresting. 804 00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:17,099 Now, have these things always been here? 805 00:37:17,101 --> 00:37:19,836 They were brought here by a living person, 806 00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:25,508 and I don't think this happened too, too long ago. 807 00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:27,944 This person was into witchcraft... 808 00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:29,979 My God. 809 00:37:29,981 --> 00:37:32,449 ...dark magic. 810 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:34,851 Well, we all know who she's talking about. 811 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:36,453 Yep. 812 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:42,058 Well, Minou, want to tell her about Jon's girlfriend? 813 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,727 She came over here, spent the night, 814 00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:48,130 and said she had seven different personalities. 815 00:37:48,132 --> 00:37:51,601 Did he want to see them? 816 00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:54,603 And he said, when they started coming out... What?! 817 00:37:54,605 --> 00:37:56,272 ...he got very, very scared, 818 00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:59,109 and he thought they were demons. 819 00:37:59,111 --> 00:38:00,443 Holy... 820 00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:02,878 Things, like, started getting bad. 821 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,881 He called her and asked her 822 00:38:05,883 --> 00:38:07,884 if she dealt in the occult at all, 823 00:38:07,886 --> 00:38:09,285 and she told him yes. 824 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:10,820 Ohhhhhh! What?! 825 00:38:10,822 --> 00:38:12,155 She admitted it? 826 00:38:12,157 --> 00:38:14,924 I, then, started getting attacked. 827 00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:16,392 No. 828 00:38:16,394 --> 00:38:20,363 Do we think she brought these rat things here? 829 00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:22,766 Yes. 830 00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:26,002 Like, it is so, so bad. 831 00:38:26,004 --> 00:38:28,938 That's my little baby. 832 00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:30,640 I can't even imagine now 833 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:33,376 the torture he's going through 834 00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:36,045 with all this...going on. 835 00:38:51,796 --> 00:38:53,063 So, Minou, the other day you told me 836 00:38:53,065 --> 00:38:55,031 you felt like you were living in hell. Yep. 837 00:38:55,033 --> 00:38:57,267 And turns out you really are. 838 00:38:57,269 --> 00:39:00,270 So now we need to find out if there's any way to fix this mess 839 00:39:00,272 --> 00:39:01,337 so you guys can stay here. 840 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,339 For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 841 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:09,746 It's not an easy fix, I'll tell you that. 842 00:39:09,748 --> 00:39:12,716 Okay, so the first thing I would like to see y'all do 843 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:15,050 is to get a male medium 844 00:39:15,052 --> 00:39:17,821 to move on the blond woman and Lloyd, 845 00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:19,355 somebody like Steve -- 846 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:21,658 very old-school, old-fashioned. 847 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:23,793 The reason why this male has to be 848 00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:27,197 that specific way is more for the female... 849 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,833 ...because she's old-school. 850 00:39:30,835 --> 00:39:33,937 Once that happens, she's gonna run out of here 851 00:39:33,939 --> 00:39:38,074 'cause she does not want to be here. 852 00:39:38,076 --> 00:39:40,743 And then he can move Lloyd on, as well, 853 00:39:40,745 --> 00:39:43,612 and all he needs to be assured of, basically, 854 00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:47,450 is that y'all got his message, and he will leave. 855 00:39:47,452 --> 00:39:48,684 So that's number one. 856 00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:52,922 Now, here's what's gonna suck. 857 00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:56,025 So, I would like you to see a voodoo priest. 858 00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:58,328 This girl placed a curse on this house 859 00:39:58,330 --> 00:40:00,530 and brought these things here. 860 00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:02,465 Fight fire with fire. 861 00:40:02,467 --> 00:40:06,936 When you're dealing with the darkness, 862 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:11,141 you need someone to counteract that darkness. 863 00:40:11,143 --> 00:40:14,911 He can remove this. 864 00:40:16,681 --> 00:40:19,749 So, now, once the voodoo priest comes in and does his thing, 865 00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,217 it'll get rid of these rat creatures 866 00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:22,986 or whatever the hell they are? 867 00:40:22,988 --> 00:40:25,688 - Yes. - Okay. 868 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:27,590 All right, so let me ask you a question. 869 00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:29,359 Do you think your son will go see this voodoo priest? 870 00:40:29,361 --> 00:40:32,161 - I don't know. - Here's the thing. 871 00:40:32,163 --> 00:40:36,299 If he won't do it, he'd have to go away. 872 00:40:36,301 --> 00:40:38,968 He could not come back, 873 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:43,840 especially after you have the rituals done. 874 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:45,274 Well, listen, you know your son 875 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:47,643 better than anybody else. 876 00:40:47,645 --> 00:40:49,045 What's the story? 877 00:40:49,047 --> 00:40:50,380 Do you think you're gonna be able to convince him 878 00:40:50,382 --> 00:40:53,249 to get this done and be part of it? 879 00:40:53,251 --> 00:40:57,019 I'm gonna have to. I don't have a choice. 880 00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:59,756 You got to try. You can't live like this. 881 00:40:59,758 --> 00:41:01,657 No, I can't. 882 00:41:01,659 --> 00:41:03,326 This is something that's fixable. 883 00:41:03,328 --> 00:41:04,828 This has to be fixed. 884 00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:08,164 He has to be fixed. 885 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:14,337 I'm gonna be on his ass about it. 886 00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:18,608 Either he goes, or I'm gonna have to go. 887 00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,676 It's gonna be one or the other, 888 00:41:20,678 --> 00:41:23,279 'cause I'm not gonna live like this anymore. 889 00:41:23,281 --> 00:41:25,748 I'm not gonna do it. 890 00:41:30,755 --> 00:41:32,622 I really hope Minou convinces Jon 891 00:41:32,624 --> 00:41:34,357 to see a voodoo priest. 892 00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:37,827 If he does, the rat creatures and negative energy will leave. 893 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,495 And with the help of a medium, 894 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,363 the dead blonde and their friend Lloyd 895 00:41:41,365 --> 00:41:43,032 can be moved on, as well, 896 00:41:43,034 --> 00:41:46,469 and this family can find the peace it's been looking for. 897 00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:51,069 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 66337

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