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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,410 --> 00:00:16,350 You're in trouble, big, big trouble. 2 00:00:16,385 --> 00:00:17,815 Tell us what we need to do 3 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:19,985 to make this safe for my girls. 4 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:22,085 She's getting bashed in the head. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,990 It's turned out to be the house of horrors. 6 00:00:26,690 --> 00:00:28,090 They're living here in danger? 7 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:29,625 Yes. 8 00:00:29,660 --> 00:00:33,670 This is not good, not good at all. 9 00:00:33,705 --> 00:00:35,887 I just hear death. 10 00:00:35,922 --> 00:00:38,070 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:38,105 --> 00:00:39,700 God. 12 00:00:39,710 --> 00:00:40,710 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 13 00:00:40,745 --> 00:00:41,875 I see dead people. 14 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:43,510 Her face was all demonic. 15 00:00:43,545 --> 00:00:45,075 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:47,980 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 17 00:00:48,015 --> 00:00:49,215 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:49,250 --> 00:00:51,145 What is he trying to do? Kill them. 19 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:53,990 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:54,025 --> 00:00:55,790 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam! 21 00:00:55,825 --> 00:00:57,392 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:57,427 --> 00:00:58,925 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,690 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:00,725 --> 00:01:02,190 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 25 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,400 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:05,435 --> 00:01:06,560 They're everywhere. 27 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:07,935 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:07,970 --> 00:01:10,030 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,835 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:14,870 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,075 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:17,745 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 33 00:01:17,780 --> 00:01:19,640 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:19,650 --> 00:01:21,715 That's it. 35 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:23,010 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:27,250 Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah. 37 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:42,830 I'm in the small town of Medina 38 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,900 between Rochester and Buffalo, New York. 39 00:01:45,910 --> 00:01:49,240 I got a call from a young mom named Kelsey. 40 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:51,310 Now, she was sobbing saying the dead 41 00:01:51,345 --> 00:01:53,662 are going after her babies 42 00:01:53,697 --> 00:01:55,945 and brainwashing her mom. 43 00:01:55,980 --> 00:01:58,450 I'm not sure exactly what the hell she meant by that. 44 00:01:58,485 --> 00:02:00,720 But she sounded so scared for her kids, 45 00:02:00,755 --> 00:02:03,220 I had to take the case. 46 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:09,825 Before Amy arrives, 47 00:02:09,860 --> 00:02:11,560 I sweep the house from top to bottom 48 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:14,270 looking for any leading information -- 49 00:02:14,305 --> 00:02:17,565 photographs, family heirlooms. 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,940 Even a baby's crib can influence her findings. 51 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:24,280 So it's important that I cover or remove them all. 52 00:02:24,315 --> 00:02:25,675 When I'm done, the location 53 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:27,580 will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:43,230 Boy. This isn't good. 55 00:02:48,340 --> 00:02:51,005 So there's, like, you know, 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,635 some dead people here who... 57 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:55,510 I think that maybe they can **** 58 00:02:55,545 --> 00:02:57,145 with living people. 59 00:02:57,180 --> 00:03:00,510 And they're bad. They're very bad. 60 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:05,720 And they want to do things to living people. 61 00:03:05,755 --> 00:03:06,855 I don't know why there's 62 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:08,520 so many **** dead people in this house. 63 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:11,485 Maybe it was a hospital 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,790 or maybe it was a crazy house at one time. 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,365 Maybe it was a boarding house. 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,170 And then, I hear there are demons lurking. 67 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:32,045 So, Kelsey, I'm glad I'm here because 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,050 when we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset. 69 00:03:34,085 --> 00:03:35,745 What's going on in this house? 70 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:38,320 My main concern is my daughter Zoey. 71 00:03:38,355 --> 00:03:40,387 Um, she's 3 years old. 72 00:03:40,422 --> 00:03:42,420 She's seeing things. 73 00:03:42,455 --> 00:03:44,155 She's afraid. 74 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:46,610 She won't go into her room by herself. 75 00:03:46,645 --> 00:03:49,030 And you have, another child as well? 76 00:03:49,065 --> 00:03:50,900 We have Lucy. She's 2 months. 77 00:03:50,935 --> 00:03:52,895 Two small kids. 78 00:03:52,930 --> 00:03:54,700 Looks like it's affecting you, too. 79 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:56,235 Yeah. 80 00:03:56,270 --> 00:04:01,610 It's a daily struggle just to keep the girls safe. 81 00:04:01,645 --> 00:04:03,205 The girls are my main concern. 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,740 And I have to stay strong for them. 83 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:08,430 As far as activity goes, give me a -- 84 00:04:08,465 --> 00:04:10,110 kind of a list of what's happening. 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,550 There's been loud screams, things moving, 86 00:04:13,585 --> 00:04:16,602 shadow figures, apparitions. 87 00:04:16,637 --> 00:04:19,620 And now it's gotten physical. 88 00:04:19,630 --> 00:04:22,030 Okay. So how long have you guys been here? 89 00:04:22,065 --> 00:04:23,925 We've lived here 18 months. 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Now, when I pulled up, this place looked like a -- 91 00:04:26,835 --> 00:04:28,835 a huge factory. 92 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:30,770 Um, how big is this place? 93 00:04:30,805 --> 00:04:32,487 It's 6,200 square feet. 94 00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:34,170 And it has 12 rooms. 95 00:04:34,205 --> 00:04:35,475 Wow. 96 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:38,880 Now, do you know any history about the house? 97 00:04:38,915 --> 00:04:41,275 We just know that it used to be an inn. 98 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:44,480 - And how old is it? - It's about 200 years old. 99 00:04:44,515 --> 00:04:47,352 So who exactly lives here? 100 00:04:47,387 --> 00:04:50,238 Myself, my daughter Zoey, 101 00:04:50,273 --> 00:04:53,055 my daughter Lucy, my mom. 102 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:55,460 You mentioned on the phone your mom's got some kind 103 00:04:55,495 --> 00:04:57,830 of strange connection, obsession with the house. 104 00:04:57,865 --> 00:04:59,965 What's that all about? 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,930 She seems to be really attached to it. 106 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:07,170 She doesn't seem to ever want to leave the house. 107 00:05:07,205 --> 00:05:10,010 - That's strange. - Since we've lived here, 108 00:05:10,045 --> 00:05:12,740 her health has just declined rapidly. 109 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:15,335 Is she the only one getting sick? 110 00:05:15,370 --> 00:05:18,780 We're all exhausted all the time. 111 00:05:18,815 --> 00:05:22,190 We all are sick all the time. 112 00:05:22,225 --> 00:05:23,825 It -- it feels like home. 113 00:05:23,860 --> 00:05:26,660 But it feels like we're sharing our home 114 00:05:26,695 --> 00:05:29,460 with something nasty. 115 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:36,900 I don't even know how anyone can stay here. 116 00:05:36,935 --> 00:05:39,600 There are just so many dead. 117 00:05:39,610 --> 00:05:41,575 I feel very dizzy. 118 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:45,040 Very sick, horrible, horrible... 119 00:05:45,050 --> 00:05:47,315 We can't focus. 120 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:49,410 I think that the living here 121 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:52,385 would experience extreme sadness. 122 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:54,250 When I first walked in, I literally wanted 123 00:05:54,285 --> 00:05:58,520 to start crying, extreme depression. 124 00:06:06,030 --> 00:06:07,330 All right, Kelsey. This is a pretty big room. 125 00:06:07,365 --> 00:06:08,830 Why'd you bring me in here? 126 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:14,140 Well, one night I was sitting right outside that door. 127 00:06:14,175 --> 00:06:15,640 All of a sudden, I heard footsteps 128 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:16,905 walking towards the door. 129 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:21,745 And the door just slammed right in my face. 130 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:26,550 And so you hear, like, footsteps like this? 131 00:06:26,585 --> 00:06:29,185 Yep. 132 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:31,320 Any doors and windows open for ventilation 133 00:06:31,355 --> 00:06:33,420 that this might've slammed shut on its own? 134 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:35,490 No, this happened just a few weeks ago, 135 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:38,000 when it was winter. 136 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:42,535 Like that? 137 00:06:42,570 --> 00:06:44,735 Exactly. 138 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:46,400 That must've scared the hell out of you. 139 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:48,910 Yeah. 140 00:06:52,310 --> 00:06:54,945 Living people, they have a problem with the doors. 141 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:59,780 The doorknob's always... tch, tch, tch, always rattling. 142 00:07:02,490 --> 00:07:04,490 And all I'm seeing is -- is, like, 143 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:07,327 the doors had blood on them. 144 00:07:07,362 --> 00:07:10,095 There was blood on the floor. 145 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:12,800 Something is trying to get inside. 146 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:17,035 Anything else? 147 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:19,000 I looked up and saw a woman walk 148 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:22,270 from our dining room into our kitchen. 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,440 She was wearing this long, white dress, 150 00:07:24,475 --> 00:07:26,527 looked like from a long time ago. 151 00:07:26,562 --> 00:07:28,271 So did you go into the kitchen 152 00:07:28,306 --> 00:07:29,980 to see what the hell it was? 153 00:07:30,015 --> 00:07:32,115 The fear overcomes me. 154 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:35,250 And I just can't bring myself to walk in and see. 155 00:07:35,260 --> 00:07:36,855 Well, okay. Anything else? 156 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:40,120 Um, one night, I was sitting down here on the couch. 157 00:07:40,130 --> 00:07:43,630 All of a sudden, I heard this ear-piercing, 158 00:07:43,665 --> 00:07:47,065 horrific scream of a woman. 159 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,930 And it sounded like she was being hurt. 160 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:51,100 That was what was startling about it. 161 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:59,275 I'm hearing a woman screaming. 162 00:07:59,310 --> 00:08:01,910 Is she trying to get in? Or is she trying to get out? 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,120 They could see her, like, as a full-body apparition. 164 00:08:05,155 --> 00:08:06,180 What would they see? 165 00:08:06,190 --> 00:08:08,890 Like a white dress or something. 166 00:08:08,925 --> 00:08:11,590 I guess maybe, like, a nightgown. 167 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,305 Freaking out. 168 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:26,555 Her heart's pounding. 169 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:28,770 I think she was murdered. 170 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,610 So this is Zoey's room? 171 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:37,250 And the reason I took the case, 172 00:08:37,285 --> 00:08:38,880 um, what's going on in here? 173 00:08:38,890 --> 00:08:41,285 She would wake up, start crying, 174 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,420 refuse to lay back down, refuse to go back to sleep, 175 00:08:44,455 --> 00:08:49,495 talking about shadow figures and, mean men. 176 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:54,770 One day, Zoey had got away from us and took off. 177 00:08:54,805 --> 00:08:57,722 And we found her at the top of the stairs 178 00:08:57,757 --> 00:09:00,640 holding what looked to be someone's hand. 179 00:09:00,675 --> 00:09:03,240 My heart dropped. I -- I stopped. 180 00:09:03,275 --> 00:09:04,445 I froze. 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,730 It was one of the more scary things 182 00:09:06,765 --> 00:09:08,980 that have happened here for me. 183 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:10,750 Okay. Anything else? 184 00:09:10,785 --> 00:09:12,015 Um, yeah. 185 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:14,150 I will be walking up the stairs, 186 00:09:14,185 --> 00:09:16,052 walking past this room. 187 00:09:16,087 --> 00:09:17,885 And I'll look in the room. 188 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,520 And there'll be a black shadow figure 189 00:09:20,530 --> 00:09:22,915 standing right in the window. 190 00:09:22,950 --> 00:09:25,265 It's happened three times. 191 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:27,665 And I was literally afraid for my life. 192 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:30,030 So could there be somebody standing outside 193 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,470 and a car going by with the lights 194 00:09:31,505 --> 00:09:33,070 and it reflecting in here? 195 00:09:33,105 --> 00:09:35,470 No. It was very solid. 196 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,910 Looked like an actual man was standing there. 197 00:09:37,945 --> 00:09:40,340 What are you hoping to get out of all this? 198 00:09:40,350 --> 00:09:41,675 Answers. 199 00:09:41,710 --> 00:09:43,145 Tell us what we need to do 200 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:46,420 to make this safe for my girls. 201 00:09:46,455 --> 00:09:48,920 Okay. 202 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,090 This person's in big trouble, 203 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:58,630 big, big trouble. 204 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,400 This is not good, not good at all. 205 00:10:06,410 --> 00:10:08,610 And I feel like these dead people 206 00:10:08,645 --> 00:10:10,810 are very focused on this person. 207 00:10:10,845 --> 00:10:14,010 Violent, very violent... 208 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,115 ...anger, hatred, 209 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:26,855 being surrounded by these very bad dead people. 210 00:10:26,890 --> 00:10:29,490 And the only reason why they would be focused on this person 211 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,795 is because they think they can make 212 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:34,700 this person kill yourself or kill everybody. 213 00:10:34,735 --> 00:10:37,440 This living person is in danger. 214 00:10:56,660 --> 00:10:59,160 So I was talking to Kelsey, and she basically said 215 00:10:59,195 --> 00:11:03,060 that you're kind of obsessed with the house. 216 00:11:03,095 --> 00:11:04,895 I guess that's fair. 217 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:08,015 I knew three steps in the door 218 00:11:08,050 --> 00:11:11,110 that this is where we should be. 219 00:11:11,145 --> 00:11:14,170 It's turned out to be, at times, 220 00:11:14,205 --> 00:11:17,005 the house of horrors. 221 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,310 I understand you've been having some health issues, too. 222 00:11:20,345 --> 00:11:22,080 I had to have two back surgeries 223 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:23,915 and a hip surgery. 224 00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:26,770 And I just can't seem to heal here. 225 00:11:26,805 --> 00:11:29,555 Have you had experiences living here? 226 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:34,760 Yes. I've had experiences with the walk-in closet. 227 00:11:34,795 --> 00:11:35,895 I thought to myself, 228 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:38,160 "Maybe this is some kind of a portal." 229 00:11:38,195 --> 00:11:40,835 You hear a woman screaming. 230 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:44,540 I mean, guttural, painful screams 231 00:11:44,575 --> 00:11:47,005 come out of that closet. 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,270 Well, how the hell do you sleep in here? 233 00:11:48,305 --> 00:11:49,705 I don't sleep in here. 234 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:52,810 I sleep in what would be Zoey's room. 235 00:11:52,845 --> 00:11:54,545 I started sleeping in there, 236 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:57,065 thinking I would get a better night's sleep. 237 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,550 But it has not worked out that way at all. 238 00:11:59,585 --> 00:12:00,615 Why not? 239 00:12:00,650 --> 00:12:03,320 I'm having these horrific nightmares. 240 00:12:03,355 --> 00:12:04,685 Okay, what kind of nightmares? 241 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,590 Every single dream, it has to do with somebody 242 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,295 in this house who is in peril. 243 00:12:11,330 --> 00:12:12,800 What do you think is going on here? 244 00:12:12,835 --> 00:12:14,035 It's like this house 245 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:16,170 is, a paranormal highway. 246 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,920 The living person in this room gets sick a lot. 247 00:12:21,955 --> 00:12:26,040 There is a Satanic vortex that's in their closet. 248 00:12:27,550 --> 00:12:28,745 Everything in this room 249 00:12:28,780 --> 00:12:31,320 that happens is due to this **** closet 250 00:12:31,355 --> 00:12:34,115 and this **** vortex in there. 251 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:36,290 I think that they would see things in there. 252 00:12:36,325 --> 00:12:37,585 Like what? 253 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:39,920 I don't know, maybe having dreams. 254 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:46,695 Lots of stress. Lots of stress. 255 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:48,630 I see somebody, like, crying so much 256 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,330 they puke kind of thing. 257 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:56,070 So scared, so scared, crying and crying and crying. 258 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,260 So anything else? 259 00:12:57,295 --> 00:12:58,405 The most significant 260 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,040 and the most frightening experience 261 00:13:00,050 --> 00:13:03,245 that I've had here so far has to be 262 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,780 walking over to the window and looking out. 263 00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:11,790 And there were, like, 8 or 10 shadow figures. 264 00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:17,460 They were shaped like a human form. 265 00:13:17,495 --> 00:13:19,965 But they were solid black. 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,170 And they were just staring right at the house. 267 00:13:23,205 --> 00:13:26,600 And just one by one, they turned around 268 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:30,070 and walked down towards the river. 269 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,875 It terrified me. 270 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:33,440 You sure these were shadow people 271 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:35,650 and not a bunch of people that were dressed in black? 272 00:13:35,685 --> 00:13:38,550 No. No, there's a street light out there. 273 00:13:38,585 --> 00:13:40,515 And it was lit up. 274 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:45,420 And you could see they were this solid black forms. 275 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:47,120 They weren't people. 276 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:48,790 No. 277 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,330 It's like you're constantly anticipating 278 00:13:51,365 --> 00:13:53,495 what might happen next. 279 00:13:53,530 --> 00:13:56,270 And it's really difficult to live like that. 280 00:13:56,305 --> 00:13:58,365 It takes its toll on everybody. 281 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,940 There's not a lot of life left in this house anymore. 282 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:10,510 I just saw, like, a really tall, dark shadow man. 283 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,450 And he just walked straight right back 284 00:14:12,485 --> 00:14:14,487 and right into there. 285 00:14:14,522 --> 00:14:16,455 He was **** tall, too, 286 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:20,520 'cause he must've been right up on that tree there. 287 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:25,630 He says that there's more. 288 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:35,505 So those shadowed...things, 289 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:37,840 they've been here for a long, long time. 290 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,145 I think that living people would see them. 291 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:47,820 But it doesn't seem like they're much interested in them. 292 00:14:47,855 --> 00:14:49,450 Any idea how the living would see them? 293 00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:52,620 Like human-shaped shadow people. 294 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:54,530 Are the living here in danger from them? 295 00:14:54,565 --> 00:14:59,600 I can't say 100% that they're safe. 296 00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:08,255 Okay, Cindy, why'd you bring me over here? 297 00:15:08,290 --> 00:15:10,805 I was walking down this set of stairs. 298 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,010 I got probably six or eight stairs from the bottom. 299 00:15:15,045 --> 00:15:18,850 And it felt like somebody took their arm 300 00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:21,185 and just swooshed 301 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:23,950 and knocked my knees out from underneath me. 302 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,725 And I flew and hit hard. - All right. 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,960 So when I came up these steps, these seemed pretty sturdy. 304 00:15:31,995 --> 00:15:33,565 They are. 305 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,400 - You could've got killed. - It's possible. 306 00:15:37,435 --> 00:15:40,005 And you're still in this house? 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,910 And you're gonna say you're not obsessed by it? 308 00:15:44,945 --> 00:15:46,840 I don't want to leave it. 309 00:15:46,850 --> 00:15:49,350 Okay. 310 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,385 There's a man. 311 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:55,705 I think it's a man. 312 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:57,730 But he sounds inhuman. 313 00:15:57,765 --> 00:15:59,720 He doesn't want us here. 314 00:15:59,730 --> 00:16:01,955 He grabbed my wrist and, like, 315 00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:04,260 pinched it between the bones, you know? 316 00:16:04,295 --> 00:16:06,495 It, like, almost felt like a ice pick. 317 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:09,900 And then, he was grabbing my neck here like, 318 00:16:09,935 --> 00:16:14,170 you know, this, my shoulder, 319 00:16:14,205 --> 00:16:16,857 and then my jaw. 320 00:16:16,892 --> 00:16:19,475 He is very physical. 321 00:16:19,510 --> 00:16:22,610 As far as being able to touch people. 322 00:16:22,620 --> 00:16:25,285 And then, I saw somebody get shoved, 323 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,420 a living person, a female, get shoved from behind. 324 00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:31,690 So he's somebody I would worry about. 325 00:16:31,725 --> 00:16:33,255 I think it's dangerous. 326 00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:35,530 I feel like he's, like, trying to attach to me. 327 00:16:35,565 --> 00:16:40,200 My God. **** Get off of me! 328 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:55,065 So I made some calls, and Kelsey's right. 329 00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:58,630 The house is almost 200 years old and used to be an inn. 330 00:16:58,665 --> 00:17:01,165 I'm heading back there to meet a local historian 331 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,300 who says the guy that built it had such a tragic time there, 332 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:06,240 he probably wishes he never laid his eyes 333 00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:07,940 on it in the first place. 334 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,145 Sounds like my clients were right. 335 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:19,600 This place was built about 200 years ago. 336 00:17:19,635 --> 00:17:22,812 Very close. We found, um, that the house 337 00:17:22,847 --> 00:17:25,955 was actually constructed around 1837. 338 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:28,460 It's regarded as one of the largest cobblestone 339 00:17:28,495 --> 00:17:30,365 buildings in North America. 340 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,770 She also mentioned that it might've been an inn. 341 00:17:33,805 --> 00:17:35,635 Yes, that is correct. It was an inn. 342 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:39,055 Um, and it was there to cater to the stagecoach traffic 343 00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:42,440 that was traveling from Buffalo to Rochester at the time. 344 00:17:42,475 --> 00:17:44,110 And we actually have a photograph here 345 00:17:44,145 --> 00:17:47,910 from 1870 that shows, um, 346 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,520 what it would've looked like from that time period. 347 00:17:50,555 --> 00:17:51,850 And this picture makes it a lot more bustling 348 00:17:51,885 --> 00:17:52,985 than it is today. 349 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:55,320 - Absolutely. - What do we know about the guy 350 00:17:55,355 --> 00:17:57,155 that built this monster of a house? 351 00:17:57,190 --> 00:18:00,490 The inn was constructed by Zachariah Spencer. 352 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,900 He was a wealthy farmer from Connecticut. 353 00:18:02,935 --> 00:18:03,982 So you mentioned on the phone 354 00:18:04,017 --> 00:18:04,995 that he's probably even sorry 355 00:18:05,030 --> 00:18:07,950 he set eyes on this location. Why was that? 356 00:18:07,985 --> 00:18:10,870 Yes, um, he turns the business over eventually 357 00:18:10,905 --> 00:18:13,305 to his son Henry, um, in 1843. 358 00:18:13,340 --> 00:18:16,595 Henry was about 28 years old at the time. 359 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:19,850 And at that point in time, he is a loner. 360 00:18:19,885 --> 00:18:20,945 Um, he's not married. 361 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:23,065 And he has no -- no children to speak of. 362 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,150 That's kind of strange for that time period. 363 00:18:25,185 --> 00:18:26,415 Isn't it? - Yes. 364 00:18:26,450 --> 00:18:29,020 Okay. So now, Henry's got the business. 365 00:18:29,055 --> 00:18:30,325 What happens? 366 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:32,830 Um, from the best we can tell, he runs it quite well. 367 00:18:32,865 --> 00:18:37,530 And then, two years later, he kills himself. 368 00:18:37,565 --> 00:18:39,417 Okay, and how do we know that? 369 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,235 We do have a deed transfer 370 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:43,600 that reverts the property back to Zachariah 371 00:18:43,610 --> 00:18:45,875 that says, um, 372 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:49,405 Henry died at his own device. - All right. 373 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,150 Could we assume he committed suicide on the property? 374 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:53,515 Yes. 375 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:55,415 Now that Zachariah's got the property 376 00:18:55,450 --> 00:18:57,380 and the business back, does he run it again? 377 00:18:57,390 --> 00:18:58,715 Or does he sell it? 378 00:18:58,750 --> 00:19:02,620 This time, he transitioned the business to his other sons, 379 00:19:02,655 --> 00:19:04,355 Burrall and Samuel Spencer. 380 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:06,790 All right. So how'd these guys do? 381 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,490 Um, they overextended themselves. 382 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:11,230 And eventually ran the business bankrupt. 383 00:19:11,265 --> 00:19:13,330 Burrall started, forging checks 384 00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:16,270 about to the extent of $270,000 385 00:19:16,305 --> 00:19:17,735 at that point in time. 386 00:19:17,770 --> 00:19:19,470 What are we talking about today? What would that be? 387 00:19:19,505 --> 00:19:23,240 By today's standards of about $6 million. 388 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:24,640 Wow. Okay. 389 00:19:24,650 --> 00:19:27,950 So this poor guy, Zachariah, comes over, successful guy. 390 00:19:27,985 --> 00:19:29,515 He's got all these kids. 391 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:32,150 One kid, Henry, who's 28 and winds up killing himself. 392 00:19:32,185 --> 00:19:33,185 Yes. 393 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:35,555 And then, the other two knuckleheads 394 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:38,190 wind up running the business into the ground. 395 00:19:38,225 --> 00:19:40,060 - Yes. - All right. 396 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,065 There's, like, two guys. 397 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:48,270 It feels like older teens maybe. 398 00:19:48,305 --> 00:19:51,440 And they're bad. They're very bad. 399 00:19:51,475 --> 00:19:53,105 I don't like these guys. 400 00:19:53,140 --> 00:19:55,275 I don't know if they're human. 401 00:19:55,310 --> 00:20:00,045 They might be pretending to be human. 402 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,050 Like, I don't know if they're really dead kids 403 00:20:03,085 --> 00:20:06,285 or if they're demons. 404 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,920 And they're, like, talking about Satanism and **** 405 00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:11,895 Them, you got to bargain with them. 406 00:20:11,930 --> 00:20:14,490 Like, if you agree for them to do something, 407 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,860 then you're gonna **** pay a price. 408 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:18,195 That's all I know. 409 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:20,130 What sort of things will he do? 410 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:21,730 They can scare them. 411 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:24,990 They can harm them, cause accidents, 412 00:20:25,025 --> 00:20:28,205 cause accidents where people die. 413 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,110 And I think also that they influence the living very much. 414 00:20:33,145 --> 00:20:36,080 And I think that they could influence a living person 415 00:20:36,115 --> 00:20:39,720 into harming themselves or somebody else. 416 00:20:39,755 --> 00:20:42,160 It's not a good situation. 417 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:48,595 If you need us to investigate 418 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:50,495 unexplained activity in your home, 419 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:52,915 go to "The Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 420 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:55,300 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story. 421 00:20:55,335 --> 00:20:56,370 And we'll help if we can. 422 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,820 So far, I've got a family worried sick 423 00:21:06,855 --> 00:21:08,920 over their children's safety on a property 424 00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:11,965 where a former owner committed suicide. 425 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 But I need to see if there's anything else. 426 00:21:15,035 --> 00:21:16,295 Searching through old records, 427 00:21:16,330 --> 00:21:18,930 I find a disturbing article about a local farmhand 428 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:20,605 who murdered a 13-year-old girl 429 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,225 right next to my client's property. 430 00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:25,170 Now, for some reason, the local cops 431 00:21:25,205 --> 00:21:27,272 won't talk to me about this case. 432 00:21:27,307 --> 00:21:29,340 So I reached out to a local author 433 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:31,480 who says this was one of the most gruesome crimes 434 00:21:31,515 --> 00:21:33,980 in the town's history. 435 00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:42,720 Were you able to find out anything about this farmhand 436 00:21:42,730 --> 00:21:44,155 that killed this 13-year-old girl? 437 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:47,700 Yes, the man we're talking about is Eugene Emory. 438 00:21:47,735 --> 00:21:50,360 He was a farmhand local to the area. 439 00:21:50,370 --> 00:21:52,170 And there's no known photograph of him, 440 00:21:52,205 --> 00:21:54,900 but we did find a sketch of him. 441 00:21:54,935 --> 00:21:55,905 Okay. 442 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:59,175 He was described as 5'8", clean-shaven. 443 00:21:59,210 --> 00:22:01,110 You have any idea how old he might've been in this sketch? 444 00:22:01,145 --> 00:22:03,610 Yes, at the time that sketch was done, 40 years old. 445 00:22:03,645 --> 00:22:04,815 40, okay. 446 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:06,945 This guy have any priors? 447 00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:10,335 Not really. But farmers in the area 448 00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:13,655 had said that he liked the young girls. 449 00:22:13,690 --> 00:22:16,520 Okay, so do we know when he starts working for the people 450 00:22:16,530 --> 00:22:18,255 that live next door to my client's property? 451 00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:21,210 He started working for the Grimes family in 1888. 452 00:22:21,245 --> 00:22:24,130 Immediately was attracted to their daughter, Cora, 453 00:22:24,165 --> 00:22:25,902 then about 12 years old. 454 00:22:25,937 --> 00:22:27,605 What do we know about her? 455 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,990 Described as a very pretty girl -- 456 00:22:30,025 --> 00:22:32,302 brunette with curly hair, brown eyes. 457 00:22:32,337 --> 00:22:34,638 Supposedly, quite a brilliant girl. 458 00:22:34,673 --> 00:22:36,940 He was actually trying to court her. 459 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:39,380 And they had been seen out in the area 460 00:22:39,415 --> 00:22:40,985 in the horse and carriage. 461 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:42,770 He had brought her a few little gifts. 462 00:22:42,805 --> 00:22:44,485 And the family knew about all this? 463 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,090 Well, they did. I don't think, at first, 464 00:22:46,125 --> 00:22:48,520 they realized it was that serious. 465 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:54,665 I, feel weak, real weak. 466 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:56,985 Really, really, really, really, 467 00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:59,270 really, really, really weak. 468 00:22:59,305 --> 00:23:01,835 Hard to walk. 469 00:23:01,870 --> 00:23:04,540 I'm seeing the panicky girl who was murdered again. 470 00:23:04,575 --> 00:23:06,757 And she's starting to show me flashes 471 00:23:06,792 --> 00:23:08,940 of who she was and what happened to her. 472 00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:12,110 She has dark brown hair, white nightie, 473 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:16,380 hourglass figure, about 5'2", no shoes. 474 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:22,960 It's warm, hot even, sticky hot. 475 00:23:22,995 --> 00:23:25,397 Something's wrong here. 476 00:23:25,432 --> 00:23:27,800 Something's wrong here. 477 00:23:27,835 --> 00:23:30,430 My God. My God. 478 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:36,685 Take me to the murder. What happened? 479 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,470 Well, on June 24, 1889, summer evening, 480 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,180 Cora's parents leave the premises. 481 00:23:42,215 --> 00:23:43,345 Okay. 482 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,050 Well, Cora and Eugene were having a discussion. 483 00:23:45,085 --> 00:23:47,385 And she's trying to let him know 484 00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:49,150 that their relationship isn't gonna go forward. 485 00:23:49,185 --> 00:23:50,655 And he's not liking this. 486 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:52,855 She's trying to make it clear to him 487 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:54,820 that she thinks there's too big an age difference. 488 00:23:54,855 --> 00:23:56,957 And he's not the boss of her. 489 00:23:56,992 --> 00:23:58,826 She leaves to go into the house. 490 00:23:58,861 --> 00:24:00,625 But in doing so, she turns her -- 491 00:24:00,660 --> 00:24:04,330 her back on him. He picks up a piece of firewood. 492 00:24:04,365 --> 00:24:08,000 Using it like a club, he bashes her in the head. 493 00:24:08,035 --> 00:24:10,322 That first blow probably killed her. 494 00:24:10,357 --> 00:24:12,610 But he strikes her two more times. 495 00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:18,210 She's getting bashed in the head. 496 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,090 Like, I'm just seeing her head explode. 497 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,975 And I'm seeing, like, brain and hair. 498 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:33,770 Something about the evil that men do. 499 00:24:33,805 --> 00:24:36,552 I don't know who this is. They're in me. 500 00:24:36,587 --> 00:24:39,300 That **** hurts. - Who's jumping you? 501 00:24:39,335 --> 00:24:41,870 A chick who's being murdered. 502 00:24:41,905 --> 00:24:43,910 **** 503 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:48,740 Get out. 504 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,815 All right. So now what happens? 505 00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:53,780 Well, Emory takes off through the woods. 506 00:24:53,815 --> 00:24:56,080 And the men form a posse. 507 00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:57,690 He sees 'em in the night with their lanterns. 508 00:24:57,725 --> 00:24:59,990 And he knows they're in pursuit of him. 509 00:25:00,025 --> 00:25:01,755 He turns himself in, 510 00:25:01,790 --> 00:25:05,160 confesses to the sheriff that he loved this girl. 511 00:25:05,195 --> 00:25:07,225 He's weepy. He's sobbing. 512 00:25:07,260 --> 00:25:09,295 But he doesn't know why he did it. 513 00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:11,330 This was big news at the time. 514 00:25:11,365 --> 00:25:12,635 What happened at trial? 515 00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:15,305 They do convict him of second-degree murder. 516 00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:17,940 And he's sentenced to life imprisonment. 517 00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:19,405 He ended up dying in prison 518 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,660 of natural causes, kidney failure, 519 00:25:21,695 --> 00:25:23,880 after serving almost 13 years. 520 00:25:30,620 --> 00:25:33,050 I saw several disturbing things on my walk. 521 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:35,390 But what has me the most concerned are the dead 522 00:25:35,425 --> 00:25:37,855 coming out of the vortex in the closet 523 00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:41,560 and then surrounding a living person in bed. 524 00:25:41,595 --> 00:25:45,482 There's dead people everywhere. 525 00:25:45,517 --> 00:25:49,978 There was a man on the left. 526 00:25:50,013 --> 00:25:54,440 And he's in his early 60s. 527 00:25:54,475 --> 00:25:57,345 Then there's a lady. 528 00:25:57,380 --> 00:26:01,045 And she's tiny. She's probably, like, 5'2". 529 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,990 And then, at the end of the bed, just completely black. 530 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,295 Amy, is this what you saw? 531 00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:12,630 Yes, that's what I saw. 532 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,060 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 533 00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,160 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 534 00:26:38,195 --> 00:26:40,200 and our clients for the first time. 535 00:26:40,235 --> 00:26:41,832 Now, Amy, this is Kelsey. 536 00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:43,430 And this is her mom, Cindy. 537 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,100 It's like these ladies are in a dysfunctional relationship 538 00:26:46,135 --> 00:26:47,300 with this house. 539 00:26:47,310 --> 00:26:49,470 And what I mean by that is it tortures them 540 00:26:49,505 --> 00:26:51,175 physically and emotionally. 541 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:54,740 But they're drawn to it like they're obsessed with it. 542 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,435 But there's a reason Kelsey called us in. 543 00:26:57,470 --> 00:27:00,120 This is her 3-year-old daughter, Zoey, 544 00:27:00,155 --> 00:27:02,215 and Lucy, who's a newborn. 545 00:27:02,250 --> 00:27:06,190 Kelsey's convinced that the dead here are picking on Zoey. 546 00:27:06,225 --> 00:27:09,092 And she is not sure if it's safe for them to be here. 547 00:27:09,127 --> 00:27:11,960 Now that Amy knows just a little bit about you guys, 548 00:27:11,995 --> 00:27:15,770 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 549 00:27:15,805 --> 00:27:17,035 Something about this location 550 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:22,310 is that there were a lot of dead people here. 551 00:27:22,345 --> 00:27:26,005 And I could not figure out why. 552 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,410 I was speculating maybe it was an asylum or a hospital. 553 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:32,685 Maybe it was a boarding house. 554 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,915 So I was extremely confused 555 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:39,760 as to why there were all these random dead people here. 556 00:27:39,795 --> 00:27:42,355 Some of them can affect the living 557 00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:47,230 because I felt a lot of depression and anxiety. 558 00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:50,130 Obviously, the house is really old. 559 00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:52,765 Um, a lot of people have been through here. 560 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,170 It was built in 1837. Originally, it was an inn. 561 00:27:57,180 --> 00:28:01,910 We actually have a photograph of your place from 1870. 562 00:28:01,945 --> 00:28:03,215 Geez, it looks about the same. 563 00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:04,550 - Yeah, there's nothing... - That's crazy. 564 00:28:04,585 --> 00:28:07,180 Not much has changed. 565 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:09,050 Now, as far as depression goes, 566 00:28:09,085 --> 00:28:10,650 tell Amy about that. 567 00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:11,825 Since moving in here, 568 00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:13,920 I think we all are drained and tired. 569 00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:17,060 And I think our attitudes are different. 570 00:28:17,095 --> 00:28:18,965 Yeah. I mean, there... 571 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,070 I am always on edge, always. 572 00:28:22,105 --> 00:28:23,430 If it wasn't for Zoey, 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,570 there would be no life in this house. 574 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:31,775 So I was outside. 575 00:28:31,810 --> 00:28:34,740 And I saw this thing, 576 00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:38,880 this really super-tall dark shadow man, like, 577 00:28:38,915 --> 00:28:42,120 probably 30 feet tall just glide, 578 00:28:42,155 --> 00:28:45,385 like, across the yard 579 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:48,995 and then went into the basement. 580 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:52,600 And I saw just all these shadow people. 581 00:28:52,635 --> 00:28:54,565 They were kind of human size. 582 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,540 I think that the living might be able to see them. 583 00:28:58,575 --> 00:29:00,605 And they didn't honestly seem 584 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,360 at all interested in living people. 585 00:29:04,395 --> 00:29:08,080 But you never know, that could change. 586 00:29:08,115 --> 00:29:11,250 Well, Cindy's seen them outside. 587 00:29:11,285 --> 00:29:14,480 There were, like, 8 to 10 588 00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:18,920 just solid black mass figures facing the house. 589 00:29:18,955 --> 00:29:22,642 And one by one, they just turned around 590 00:29:22,677 --> 00:29:26,330 and walked right back down to the river. 591 00:29:26,365 --> 00:29:28,647 Scared me half to death. 592 00:29:28,682 --> 00:29:30,930 I saw them three times. 593 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:32,505 Um, each time, it was when 594 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:34,600 I was walking past Zoey's room. 595 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:39,410 The third time, I got angry and just stared at it. 596 00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:42,280 And that thing didn't back down from me. 597 00:29:42,315 --> 00:29:43,845 It kept staring. 598 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,250 Finally, I just got so scared, I walked away. 599 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:54,920 So what else? 600 00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:57,560 Then I went into the master bedroom. 601 00:29:57,595 --> 00:30:00,082 - That's Cindy's room. - Okay. 602 00:30:00,117 --> 00:30:02,535 And I saw somebody crying. 603 00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:07,000 And they were scared and hysterical, 604 00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:10,270 under a ton of stress. 605 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Yeah. I've shed my fair share of tears here 606 00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:18,410 and just been moments of just true despair. 607 00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:20,950 I also got that the individual there, 608 00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:23,555 does get sick a lot. 609 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:28,590 And that person sees a lot of strange things. 610 00:30:28,625 --> 00:30:31,330 Um, and the reason why is because 611 00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:34,182 when I went into the closet, 612 00:30:34,217 --> 00:30:37,593 I saw this dark, black hole. 613 00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:40,935 I really got evil from it. 614 00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:46,240 And I said that it was the Satanic vortex. 615 00:30:46,275 --> 00:30:48,577 I hate that closet. 616 00:30:48,612 --> 00:30:51,896 I hate that closet. 617 00:30:51,931 --> 00:30:55,180 I hear women screaming. 618 00:30:56,190 --> 00:31:00,220 And it sounds like it's coming from that closet. 619 00:31:00,230 --> 00:31:02,455 Tell her about your illnesses as well. 620 00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:06,130 I've had several back surgeries and a hip surgery. 621 00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:09,770 I have had maybe six or eight other procedures 622 00:31:09,805 --> 00:31:11,165 since we've been here. 623 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,835 - What? - I just can't heal. 624 00:31:13,870 --> 00:31:19,895 I'm just exhausted and anxious and depressed. 625 00:31:19,930 --> 00:31:25,920 And I'm just fighting to get my life back 626 00:31:25,955 --> 00:31:27,985 after these injuries. 627 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,990 But at the same time, you don't want to give up the house. 628 00:31:32,025 --> 00:31:33,907 I love this house. 629 00:31:33,942 --> 00:31:35,755 I got three steps in. 630 00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:38,760 And I knew that we were supposed to be here. 631 00:31:38,795 --> 00:31:41,260 Interesting. 632 00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:46,405 In the master bedroom, 633 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,310 I also saw a person in the bed terrified. 634 00:31:50,345 --> 00:31:51,670 You talking 'bout Cindy? 635 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,545 Yes. 636 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:56,400 There were all of these dead people, 637 00:31:56,435 --> 00:31:59,092 that were kind of around the bed. 638 00:31:59,127 --> 00:32:01,750 So what did this look like to you? 639 00:32:01,785 --> 00:32:03,320 I had a sketch done. 640 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:08,420 I don't know if I want to even open this up. 641 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:18,940 There you go. 642 00:32:18,975 --> 00:32:20,800 My God. 643 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:27,440 Wow. Well, that's awful. 644 00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:32,380 Knowing that they're targeting my mom, 645 00:32:32,415 --> 00:32:35,790 I mean, I just get angry. 646 00:32:35,825 --> 00:32:38,290 It's overwhelming. 647 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,060 Did you see anything else? 648 00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:48,460 Yes. 649 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:55,040 I met a dead male that is very active in this house. 650 00:32:55,075 --> 00:32:57,740 And he is a serious problem. 651 00:32:57,775 --> 00:32:59,905 He grabbed my arm 652 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:05,010 and was pinching through both of the bones. 653 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:09,050 And it felt like an ice pick going right through there. 654 00:33:09,085 --> 00:33:11,822 He absolutely did not want me here. 655 00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,560 And I felt he could do physical harm 656 00:33:14,595 --> 00:33:16,155 to living people -- 657 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:18,590 pushing, shoving, hitting them. 658 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,930 And I think he could be dangerous. 659 00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:26,570 Well, dangerous is an understatement. 660 00:33:26,605 --> 00:33:27,905 You could've been killed. 661 00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:30,270 I was coming down the stairway. 662 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,445 All of a sudden, it felt like somebody took their arm 663 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,610 and just knocked my legs right up from underneath me. 664 00:33:36,645 --> 00:33:41,080 And I went down, I mean, hard. 665 00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:43,620 Does that sound like this -- this scum bag would do that? 666 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:45,825 Yeah. 667 00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:47,220 All right. 668 00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:49,790 So did you get anything on this guy when he was alive? 669 00:33:49,825 --> 00:33:51,625 I saw he was a white male. 670 00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:55,030 I think he was in maybe his 40s. 671 00:33:55,065 --> 00:33:57,665 The other thing that I got 672 00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:01,240 was that he had murdered a woman. 673 00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:03,175 I saw her briefly. 674 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,070 And she was in a complete panic. 675 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,175 She was screaming. 676 00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:09,360 She was wearing a white dress, 677 00:34:09,395 --> 00:34:11,510 dark hair, she looked young. 678 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,845 She was petite. 679 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,820 And she wasn't wearing any shoes. 680 00:34:14,855 --> 00:34:17,150 And it was hot and sticky. 681 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,420 Then I saw that she was bashed in the head. 682 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:22,625 And then her head exploded. 683 00:34:22,660 --> 00:34:24,360 And I just saw the brain and hair 684 00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:27,195 and everything just go, 685 00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:29,250 Then I walked in the kitchen. 686 00:34:29,285 --> 00:34:31,235 And she jumped into my body. 687 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:35,040 The pain was absolutely excruciating. 688 00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:37,870 In the last 120 years, 689 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,505 there's only been three women 690 00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:40,775 that have been murdered in this town. 691 00:34:40,810 --> 00:34:44,150 One of them was right next door. And it happened in 1889. 692 00:34:44,185 --> 00:34:45,580 The victim was a 13-year-old girl 693 00:34:45,615 --> 00:34:47,185 named, Cora Grimes. 694 00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:50,650 And she was a beautiful girl, dark hair, dark eyes. 695 00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:52,425 Now, the year before she was murdered, 696 00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:56,060 the parents had hired a farmhand named Eugene Emory. 697 00:34:56,095 --> 00:34:57,947 The guy became obsessed with her. 698 00:34:57,982 --> 00:34:59,800 The guy was basically a pedophile. 699 00:34:59,835 --> 00:35:02,465 She's 13. He's 39. 700 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,000 You said the murder probably happened 701 00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:05,565 when it was sticky and hot? 702 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,670 Well, the murder took place on June 24, 1889, 703 00:35:08,705 --> 00:35:10,875 so the hot time of the year. 704 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:13,005 Now, Cora's parents left for a bit. 705 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,180 Emory approached Cora and professed his love to her. 706 00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:18,450 She said to him, "You're too old for me," 707 00:35:18,485 --> 00:35:20,517 and turned her back on him. 708 00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:22,515 And this guy went into a rage. 709 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:26,225 He picked up a club-sized piece of firewood 710 00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:31,560 and took a shot at her head and cracked her skull open. 711 00:35:31,595 --> 00:35:33,527 He wound up turning himself in. 712 00:35:33,562 --> 00:35:35,460 And, he ended up confessing. 713 00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:37,500 He basically said he lost his mind over the girl 714 00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:39,605 and can't explain why he killed her. 715 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,940 Um, he ended up getting a life sentence and dying in prison. 716 00:35:44,975 --> 00:35:47,040 Now, we don't have a photo of him. 717 00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:52,110 But I did track down the sketch somebody did in the courtroom. 718 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,580 Um, I mean, it's a sketch, but... 719 00:35:58,460 --> 00:36:01,360 ...is it possible that's the guy you might've seen? 720 00:36:01,395 --> 00:36:03,725 I don't know. Possible. 721 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,580 It's hard to tell from that picture. 722 00:36:06,615 --> 00:36:08,992 But the case sounds very similar. 723 00:36:09,027 --> 00:36:11,335 Everybody just says I look so young, 724 00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:14,470 which is still creeping me out that he's in this house. 725 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:18,870 Anything else? 726 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,310 When I went into the living room, 727 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:25,310 I saw two teenage males. 728 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,515 They're a big problem. They're here. 729 00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:29,285 And I keep going back and forth on, like, 730 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,020 are they really these kids or are they demons? 731 00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:37,830 Their little mission is to create this havoc -- 732 00:36:37,865 --> 00:36:39,797 torture people, scare people. 733 00:36:39,832 --> 00:36:42,601 And they can influence the living 734 00:36:42,636 --> 00:36:45,370 to harm themselves or others. 735 00:36:45,405 --> 00:36:47,200 How would they get here? 736 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:50,970 The freaking vortex. 737 00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,910 Now, you had mentioned that they can cause people 738 00:36:52,945 --> 00:36:56,375 to harm themselves and others. 739 00:36:56,410 --> 00:36:59,315 There was a suicide on the property you should know about. 740 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:02,220 This place was built by a guy named Zachariah Spencer. 741 00:37:02,255 --> 00:37:04,150 Come 1843, 742 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,890 Zachariah turned his whole business over to his son Henry. 743 00:37:07,925 --> 00:37:11,577 Two years after taking over the business, 1845, 744 00:37:11,612 --> 00:37:15,230 Henry killed himself right on the property here. 745 00:37:15,265 --> 00:37:17,330 Boy. 746 00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:19,000 I don't even want to ask her if there's anything else. 747 00:37:19,035 --> 00:37:21,135 But did you see anything else? 748 00:37:21,170 --> 00:37:27,580 The room that I am extremely nervous about 749 00:37:27,615 --> 00:37:30,832 is the blue room. 750 00:37:30,867 --> 00:37:34,015 Which is Zoey's room. 751 00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:35,620 Now, you sleep in Zoey's room? 752 00:37:35,655 --> 00:37:37,450 Yeah. 753 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:40,460 I don't sleep in the master bedroom anymore. 754 00:37:40,495 --> 00:37:43,090 So does Zoey sleep in there with you? 755 00:37:43,125 --> 00:37:46,297 - No. - She never did. 756 00:37:46,332 --> 00:37:49,435 Got it. Okay. Interesting. 757 00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:53,300 The individual that sleeps in that room 758 00:37:53,335 --> 00:37:59,480 is someone who is in grave danger. 759 00:37:59,515 --> 00:38:01,775 Those specific dead 760 00:38:01,810 --> 00:38:05,010 are very focused on that living person. 761 00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:09,890 So what the hell do they want from Cindy? 762 00:38:09,925 --> 00:38:12,822 You've been subject to that room 763 00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:15,720 where that horrible vortex thing is. 764 00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:18,290 And they followed you. 765 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:27,405 I think that they are trying to possess you. 766 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:34,340 I mean, they can jump you and mold you into a killer. 767 00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:37,110 My gosh. 768 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,620 They're probably trying to get you 769 00:38:39,655 --> 00:38:42,237 as close to death as possible 770 00:38:42,272 --> 00:38:44,820 'cause that would be the easiest, 771 00:38:44,855 --> 00:38:47,142 time for them. 772 00:38:47,177 --> 00:38:49,395 That's scary. 773 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:51,830 Goodness. I wasn't expecting that. 774 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,255 So, Kelsey, you called us in 775 00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:14,060 'cause you're worried about your kids. 776 00:39:14,095 --> 00:39:15,330 But it turns out, your mother's 777 00:39:15,365 --> 00:39:16,725 the one that's in danger. 778 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,460 To see if there's any way you guys can stay here safely, 779 00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:21,230 I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 780 00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:32,040 It just isn't the right place. 781 00:39:32,075 --> 00:39:36,045 My goodness. 782 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,920 And I think, honestly, as quickly as possible, 783 00:39:38,955 --> 00:39:41,190 you need to get out of the house. 784 00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:45,225 And once you leave, 785 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:49,060 you then also need to go for an exorcism. 786 00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:55,700 Once that's done, all the attachments will go away 787 00:39:55,735 --> 00:39:58,300 so there'll be no more desire to return 788 00:39:58,335 --> 00:40:00,372 and things like that. 789 00:40:00,407 --> 00:40:02,375 As far as this location, 790 00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:07,180 I don't think anyone alive should live here. 791 00:40:09,850 --> 00:40:12,880 Kind of figured something like that 792 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:16,790 was gonna be what the outcome was. 793 00:40:16,825 --> 00:40:19,290 Well, I wasn't. 794 00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:27,895 I love this house. 795 00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:29,135 You might feel differently 796 00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:31,740 once you're away for a few months 797 00:40:31,775 --> 00:40:34,275 after you have your exorcism. 798 00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:35,570 If she gets the exorcism done right... 799 00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:38,410 ...do you think she'll start to heal a little bit better? 800 00:40:38,445 --> 00:40:41,210 Yeah. Once you leave the location 801 00:40:41,245 --> 00:40:43,045 and you have the exorcism, 802 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,985 I think you'll see a dramatic change -- 803 00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:48,890 your emotional state, your mental state, 804 00:40:48,925 --> 00:40:50,757 your physical state. 805 00:40:50,792 --> 00:40:52,590 And if they stay? 806 00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:54,295 I just... 807 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:56,390 That's just not an option to me. 808 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,995 I'm sorry. But it's just not. 809 00:40:58,030 --> 00:41:00,060 Um, absolutely would not recommend that. 810 00:41:00,070 --> 00:41:03,520 Well, I'm a little concerned about you, though. 811 00:41:03,555 --> 00:41:06,970 I know what she's saying that you need to do. 812 00:41:07,005 --> 00:41:09,970 But I'm wondering if you're like, 813 00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:11,380 "I'm not giving up this house." 814 00:41:11,415 --> 00:41:13,645 No, I'm going. 815 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,350 No ifs, ands or buts about it. 816 00:41:16,385 --> 00:41:18,380 - Okay. - Yep. 817 00:41:18,415 --> 00:41:19,815 Yeah. 818 00:41:19,850 --> 00:41:23,350 This is so much bigger than what I thought. 819 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,555 No house is worth this. - No. 820 00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:29,530 I just didn't realize how big of a nightmare we were in. 821 00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:34,600 The only way Cindy and Kelsey can save their family 822 00:41:34,635 --> 00:41:37,435 is to move as far away as possible. 823 00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:40,300 If they do that and get an exorcism for Cindy, 824 00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:42,870 all of the attachments to the dead will be broken. 825 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,610 And they can begin to lead a peaceful life. 826 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:50,210 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 61266

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