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Anwen.
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- Long time.
- Steve.
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We've done as you asked,
removed Cooper from the scene.
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He is giving a statement
down at Haverfordwest Station.
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The paramedics put her
on the floor for CPR.
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We need the Home Office pathologist
on this.
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I'll call the coroner.
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And Anwen...
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make sure everyone knows
it's possible there's no crime here.
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Cooper should be treated
as sensitively
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as any husband
who's just lost his wife.
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There's no signs
of a struggle.
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No bruising on the arms or neck.
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We could have prevented this.
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We won't know if he killed her until
we get the pathologist's report.
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Till then, he won't be allowed
back in the house.
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He's staying with his brother.
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But this is a warning.
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John Cooper is out,
and no good can come of that.
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And...
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we could be shut down any day.
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So, it's not good enough
for us to sit around
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waiting for forensics
to save our arses.
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We have to make something happen.
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Those khaki shorts are out there.
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Morning.
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Ahead of you is 28 Rose Meadow Lane,
Cooper's last home.
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Behind you is Sardis village.
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This was his hunting ground.
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Those fields were his rat runs.
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And thanks to Huntsman, we know that
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these hedgerows
were his so-called "safes",
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where he hid items he'd stolen
or his offending gear.
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Now, these khaki shorts
worried him in the interviews.
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He thinks they're out there still.
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PHONE RINGS
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Steve Wilkins, hello.
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Hello, Mr Wilkins. It's
the Home Office pathologist here.
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Hello, sir.
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Thank you for getting back to me
so promptly.
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- The results of Pat Cooper's postmortem.
- Yeah?
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She died of natural causes.
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- Natural causes?
- Yes.
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- It was clearly heart failure.
- Her heart?
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OK.
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All right.
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Well, thank you for getting back.
We appreciate it.
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No problem.
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She saw this coming.
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She had an ad cut out from the paper
about arranging your own funeral.
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She knew.
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She knew living with him again
would be the death of her.
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Do you think
he'll try and make contact with you?
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No chance.
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What about the funeral?
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He won't want me there.
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What about what you want?
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If you want to attend your mother's
funeral, we can help with that.
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Too much aggro.
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I'll go see her in my own time.
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Andrew...
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on behalf of my team and myself...
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I'm sorry.
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It wasn't your fault.
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Bad things happen around bad men.
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He's right, Steve.
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It wasn't our fault.
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If Cooper was still inside,
Pat would still be alive
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and Andrew
would still have a mother.
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HE SIGHS
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But with Pat out of the picture,
he's even more dangerous.
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It's like a ticking time bomb.
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Living on his own
is new territory for him.
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Just him and his thoughts.
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His fantasies, compulsions.
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Ten years' worth.
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We have come together
to commend our sister Patricia
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into the hands of Almighty God,
our heavenly father.
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In the presence of death,
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Christians have sure grounds
for hope and confidence,
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and even joy,
because the Lord Jesus Christ,
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who shared our human life and death,
was raised again triumphant
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and lives evermore.
In this faith, we put our trust.
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Help us, we humbly beseech thee,
Lord.
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Amen.
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Fuck!
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Glyn...
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Huntsman recovered all the items
of clothing from the house, correct?
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Yeah, they did, yeah.
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- And they photographed every item?
- Yeah.
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Khaki shorts.
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They're the same.
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There's something wrong
with this picture.
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Could the colour be affected
by the processing? The flash?
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Yeah, I guess so.
And it's an old picture.
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We need to see what these shorts
actually look like.
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Jesus Christ...
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They are khaki.
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But they do look a lot shorter.
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Maybe he had them altered.
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Pat was a seamstress.
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May I?
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Oh, Steve, elasticated waistband.
No fly.
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They...
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They look like women's shorts.
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Yeah, well, they're all we've got.
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We're sending them in for testing.
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PHONE RINGS
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Steve Wilkins.
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Steve, it's Angela Gallop.
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Are you driving, by any chance?
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It's OK, you're on speaker.
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I think you'd better pull over.
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OK.
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- What is it?
- Right...
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So, we unpicked the hem
of the shorts, like you asked,
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and we taped the uncovered area
for fibres
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and noticed there is a faint stain.
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So, we went back
to the exact same spot
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on the shorts and...
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...found a tiny flake of blood.
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It's Peter Dixon's.
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- How sure are you?
- Full profile.
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The probability of that blood
having come from anybody else
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is a billion to one.
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It's your golden nugget, Steve.
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Steve?
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Are you still there?
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Please, don't take this
the wrong way...
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...but I bloody love you!
SHE LAUGHS
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Charge him with the lot.
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Including Nolton Hill?
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- The lot.
- Yes!
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Check the vehicle.
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We're going in.
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Morning, John.
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John William Cooper,
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you're under arrest for the murders
of Helen and Richard Thomas...
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- Fuck off! Get off me! Fuck off!
- ...and Peter and Gwenda Dixon.
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You are also under arrest
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for attempted armed robbery,
rape and sexual assault
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during an attack on five teenagers
in Milford Haven in 1996.
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Boss...
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Jesus...
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And I found this
in the glove compartment.
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We got him just in time.
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DOOR OPENS
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Right, John.
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You know
Detective Inspector Richards.
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I am Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins.
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I know who you are.
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Can you see OK, John?
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I've got a spare pair of glasses
if you need them.
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HE SIGHS
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That's me.
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That isn't.
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The last time we met, you said
you'd never had collar-length hair.
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Oh, so I forgot that I had
collar-length hair 20 years ago.
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It's not a crime, is it?
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Let's talk about the shorts the man
in the drawing's wearing, John.
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Mr Cooper is being shown
a photo of item AJM/165.
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The khaki shorts recovered by
Huntsman from 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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Now, the last time you spoke to us,
John,
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you said that
you'd once owned a pair of
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what you described as khaki bathers.
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Is that them?
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Well...
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if they're from my home, maybe.
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Strictly speaking,
they're not bathers, John.
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The fabric's too heavy.
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I used them as bathers.
So, to me, that's what they are.
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During the interview in July 2008,
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you said that the shorts
worn by the man in the drawing
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couldn't possibly be yours
as your bathers were much shorter.
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- HE SCOFFS
- See for yourself.
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For the tape, I'm showing Mr Cooper
item AJM/165/B.
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We unpicked the hem, John.
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So, do you see how,
with the excess fabric turned down,
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the difference in length between
the two pairs of shorts is reduced?
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If you do that to any garment,
that's what'll happen.
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Yeah, we know your wife
used to work as a seamstress.
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Did she alter these shorts?
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You leave my wife out of this.
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Since the July 2008 interviews,
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certain forensic discoveries
have been made
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which we would like to discuss
with you
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so that you can have an opportunity
to comment.
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In reference to AJM/165/B,
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this white circle indicates an area
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where an amount of Peter Dixon's
blood was found.
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Can you give us an explanation
as to how that might be?
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Pat got most of my clothes
from the Oxfam and Army Surplus.
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Oh, and you should also
be talking to my son.
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As I told you all before, he was in
the habit of borrowing my clothes.
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John...
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was Peter Dixon's blood
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deposited on the khaki shorts
when you shot him?
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I've never killed anybody
in my life. These shorts...
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sorry, bathers...
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were something of a treasure trove,
John. Especially the pockets.
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Photo AJM/166.
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What this photo shows us, John,
is a microscopic image
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of the fluff found in the pockets
of your khaki bathers.
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Fluff that consisted of human hair.
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Yours. Skin cells. Also yours.
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But nothing of your son, though.
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Certain fabric fibres
were also found in the fluff.
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For the tape, glove BB/109,
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found under the hedgerow near
your home at 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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MTJ/5 and 7 recovered by Huntsman
from the Sardis trail.
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John, are these three gloves yours?
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Absolutely not.
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As I told you before, Adrian
was the glove-wearer in our family.
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I never wore gloves.
I found them too cumbersome.
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What about the new pair
we found in the boot of your car?
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Well...
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obviously, I wear gloves now.
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Now I'm older, I feel the cold more.
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Fibres exactly matching
the constituent fibres
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of these three gloves
were found in the fluff
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from the pockets
of your khaki bathers.
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- How do you account for that?
- Are you deaf?
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I told you, Adrian wore the bathers
more than me.
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When two articles of clothing
come into contact with each other,
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there is always
an exchange of fibres.
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On glove BB/109,
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our team found fibres
from another source.
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For the tape, BM/1,
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a sock belonging to Richard Thomas.
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The only item of clothing
recovered from his body
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after it was destroyed in the fire
at Scoveston Park in 1985.
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Fibres from this sock
were found on glove BB/109.
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And fibres from this glove
were found on this sock.
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- Are you with me so far, John?
- Oh, keep talking, yeah.
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I know you want to.
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These discoveries are consistent
with the accepted view
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that Richard Thomas' killer
wore gloves
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when he dragged his body
from the outbuilding
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into the main house at Scoveston.
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Are you listening to this, huh?
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- This is Fantasy Island.
- John...
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are you the person responsible
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for the murder
of Richard and Helen Thomas
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at Scoveston Park in December 1985?
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No.
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I was not.
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Fibres are the gifts
that keep on giving, John.
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Other fibres,
from a different source,
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were found on gloves MTJ/5 and 7.
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For the tape, BKG/9.
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Those fibres were an exact match
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with constituent fibres found
in the underwear of a young female
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who was raped
on the evening of the 6th March 1996
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in a field by the Nolton Hill
Estate, Milford Haven.
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John, are you the person who,
on 6th March 1996,
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pointed a gun at five young people,
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three females and two males,
on Nolton Hill
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and searched them for money?
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Mr Cooper has not answered.
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John, are you the person
who raped one of the young females?
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Mr Cooper has not answered.
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00:17:25,781 --> 00:17:27,822
John, are you the person
who indecently assaulted
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one of the other young females?
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00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:39,999
For the tape...
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00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,806
PH/2, the sawn-off shotgun
found on the Sardis trail,
268
00:17:43,846 --> 00:17:45,767
which matches the description
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00:17:45,768 --> 00:17:48,691
given by two of the victims
of the Nolton Hill attack,
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and the victim
in the Sardis robbery,
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a crime we know
you were convicted of in 1998.
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If you're gonna say
that you found my DNA
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on that, I told her...
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00:17:58,226 --> 00:18:00,669
about the prosecution making me
handle it during the trial.
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00:18:00,670 --> 00:18:04,195
Well, we did find DNA on the gun,
John.
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But not yours.
277
00:18:05,677 --> 00:18:08,882
You see the black finish
on the barrel and stock?
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Anvileen satin black metal paint.
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For the tape, JAW/100,
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recovered by Huntsman from the shed
at 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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00:18:20,978 --> 00:18:23,142
John...
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were you the one who applied
this paint to the barrel of the gun?
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00:18:25,825 --> 00:18:28,390
That is not...
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my gun.
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We had the paint removed.
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On some of the flakes,
our forensic scientists
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00:18:36,882 --> 00:18:40,278
noticed a reddish cast
that tested positive for blood.
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00:18:40,967 --> 00:18:42,970
Peter Dixon's blood.
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00:18:43,009 --> 00:18:44,933
John...
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00:18:44,973 --> 00:18:49,579
did you shoot Peter and Gwenda Dixon
with this gun?
291
00:18:55,748 --> 00:18:58,761
- What are you doing, John?
- John...
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Sit down, John.
293
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DOG BARKS IN DISTANCE
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SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR
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00:19:29,518 --> 00:19:31,109
Erin James?
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00:19:31,145 --> 00:19:33,384
Erin Davies. I'm married.
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00:19:34,343 --> 00:19:36,063
Hi, Erin.
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00:19:36,103 --> 00:19:38,502
I'm Detective Inspector
Ella Richards.
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00:19:38,503 --> 00:19:40,902
This is Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins.
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00:19:40,903 --> 00:19:42,422
Mm, I remember you.
301
00:19:51,779 --> 00:19:54,299
Erin, we've recently arrested a man
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00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:56,979
on suspicion of
committing four murders.
303
00:19:57,018 --> 00:19:59,537
We also believe he was the man
who attacked you
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00:19:59,538 --> 00:20:01,217
and your friends in 1996.
305
00:20:02,617 --> 00:20:04,296
After all this time?
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00:20:04,336 --> 00:20:07,296
I'm so sorry.
I realise this must be a shock.
307
00:20:07,336 --> 00:20:10,235
Why couldn't you have done this
13 years ago?
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00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:12,295
Erin...
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may I say something?
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00:20:18,134 --> 00:20:19,934
We know we let you down.
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00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:24,531
All we want is to see to it the man
who hurt you and your friends
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00:20:24,532 --> 00:20:26,731
never gets to hurt anyone else
ever again.
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00:20:26,732 --> 00:20:28,999
And you can help make that happen.
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00:20:30,850 --> 00:20:33,130
All of you will be assigned
Family Liaison Officers
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00:20:33,131 --> 00:20:35,328
to support you and your family
through the process.
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00:20:35,329 --> 00:20:37,048
The trial won't be for weeks yet.
317
00:20:37,049 --> 00:20:39,568
I won't be taking part in any trial.
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00:20:39,608 --> 00:20:41,888
None of you will be required
to appear in court.
319
00:20:41,889 --> 00:20:44,421
Everything will be done
via video link.
320
00:20:45,448 --> 00:20:48,167
You won't have to be
in the same room as him.
321
00:20:48,168 --> 00:20:51,046
My husband doesn't know I was raped.
322
00:21:02,843 --> 00:21:04,563
How was it?
323
00:21:04,603 --> 00:21:07,242
Leanne Dauncey will testify.
324
00:21:07,282 --> 00:21:10,241
Erin's angry, but Leanne thinks
she can talk her round.
325
00:21:10,242 --> 00:21:13,441
Karen Joseph's out of the question.
She's practically housebound.
326
00:21:13,442 --> 00:21:16,961
She's had mental health issues
ever since the attack.
327
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,199
The two boys won't cooperate,
either.
328
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,399
Not after everything that happened
with the original investigation.
329
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,277
The trial begins
at Swansea Crown Court tomorrow
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00:21:26,278 --> 00:21:30,797
of 65-year-old John William Cooper
of Letterston, Pembrokeshire.
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00:21:30,837 --> 00:21:33,595
Cooper has been charged
with the four murders
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00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,555
and with the rape
and indecent assault
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00:21:35,556 --> 00:21:39,755
of two teenage girls
at Milford Haven in 1996.
334
00:21:49,753 --> 00:21:52,712
The defence will make much
of the fact that the khaki shorts
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00:21:52,713 --> 00:21:54,831
are indeed women's shorts.
336
00:21:54,872 --> 00:21:58,191
That it makes no sense
that the defendant was wearing them
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00:21:58,192 --> 00:22:00,991
when he brutally murdered
Mr and Mrs Dixon.
338
00:22:01,471 --> 00:22:05,430
But murder cases have a habit
of defying common sense.
339
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:09,269
According to the son
of Mr and Mrs Dixon...
340
00:22:10,068 --> 00:22:13,467
...whenever his parents went walking
and his mother was wearing
341
00:22:13,468 --> 00:22:16,545
long trousers, she would always
put a pair of shorts
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00:22:16,546 --> 00:22:20,467
in her backpack
in case the weather turned warm.
343
00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:23,305
But no shorts of any description
were found
344
00:22:23,346 --> 00:22:25,478
at the Coastal Path crime scene.
345
00:22:26,024 --> 00:22:27,824
Why?
346
00:22:29,504 --> 00:22:32,582
Imagine the sequence of events,
ladies and gentlemen.
347
00:22:32,583 --> 00:22:36,863
The defendant shoots the Dixons
at close range.
348
00:22:36,903 --> 00:22:40,622
He then moves their bodies
and covers them with branches.
349
00:22:40,662 --> 00:22:43,661
In the process,
some of their blood -
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00:22:43,701 --> 00:22:47,778
judging by these distressing images,
probably a lot of their blood -
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00:22:47,779 --> 00:22:50,499
gets onto his trousers.
352
00:22:50,539 --> 00:22:54,978
In a panic, he goes through
his victims' backpacks and finds...
353
00:22:56,057 --> 00:22:59,297
...Mrs Dixon's khaki shorts.
354
00:22:59,338 --> 00:23:01,575
He removes
his own blood-stained trousers
355
00:23:01,576 --> 00:23:05,495
and puts on Mrs Dixon's shorts
and quits the scene,
356
00:23:05,535 --> 00:23:09,136
taking his trousers with him,
unaware that a single spot
357
00:23:09,176 --> 00:23:14,213
of Peter Dixon's blood
had found its way onto the shorts.
358
00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:22,652
How come you're not inside?
359
00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:27,010
The SIO is the last Crown witness.
360
00:23:28,091 --> 00:23:30,650
I'm not allowed in
until I give my evidence.
361
00:23:30,651 --> 00:23:32,250
How are you feeling?
362
00:23:33,569 --> 00:23:35,289
Ready as I'll ever be.
363
00:23:36,568 --> 00:23:37,929
Come on.
364
00:23:41,247 --> 00:23:45,447
This police artist's impression
was based on
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00:23:45,486 --> 00:23:47,926
a witness sighting of the defendant
as he withdrew cash
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00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:53,205
from a NatWest ATM in Haverfordwest
using Peter Dixon's bank card.
367
00:23:53,244 --> 00:23:58,124
The sighting was made two days after
the murder and yet, incredibly,
368
00:23:58,164 --> 00:24:02,042
the defendant was still wearing
Mrs Dixon's khaki shorts.
369
00:24:02,083 --> 00:24:06,961
A hugely incriminating piece of
evidence linking him to two murders.
370
00:24:07,001 --> 00:24:12,000
Why on earth had he not disposed of
them at the earliest opportunity?
371
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,279
Think about what that says about
the mind of John William Cooper.
372
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,840
Was he thumbing his nose
at the world,
373
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,879
convinced that he was too clever
to be caught for his horrific crime?
374
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:28,158
Or was his motivation darker,
stranger?
375
00:24:28,197 --> 00:24:33,755
Did he regard Mrs Dixon's shorts
as a trophy to be worn with pride...
376
00:24:35,275 --> 00:24:39,554
...and perhaps just a touch
of sexual gratification?
377
00:24:39,595 --> 00:24:43,314
Whatever the explanation,
this drawing shows a killer
378
00:24:43,354 --> 00:24:46,393
wearing an item of clothing
stolen from a woman
379
00:24:46,433 --> 00:24:48,752
he has murdered in cold blood.
380
00:24:48,792 --> 00:24:51,672
The defendant has always maintained
381
00:24:51,711 --> 00:24:54,151
that this drawing
bears no resemblance to himself
382
00:24:54,152 --> 00:24:56,631
as he was in the summer of 1989.
383
00:24:56,671 --> 00:24:59,709
But due to an extraordinary
quirk of fate,
384
00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,349
one month before
the Coastal Path murders,
385
00:25:02,350 --> 00:25:05,069
his likeness was captured on video
386
00:25:05,109 --> 00:25:08,884
during his appearance on a game show
on national television.
387
00:25:09,747 --> 00:25:12,080
The resulting image speaks volumes.
388
00:25:20,426 --> 00:25:22,184
This is you.
389
00:25:22,224 --> 00:25:25,024
Now, he can see you.
But you can't see him.
390
00:25:26,183 --> 00:25:28,543
And, er... be warned.
391
00:25:28,584 --> 00:25:31,261
His defence barrister
will be rough with you.
392
00:25:31,262 --> 00:25:33,622
He'll try and paint you
as the unreliable witness
393
00:25:33,623 --> 00:25:35,020
with an axe to grind.
394
00:25:35,021 --> 00:25:36,781
No worries, Steve.
395
00:25:36,822 --> 00:25:38,581
I've got my dragon scales
for protection.
396
00:25:38,582 --> 00:25:41,381
Let's have the jury back in,
please.
397
00:25:47,778 --> 00:25:50,378
Both the barristers
will refer to you as Adrian.
398
00:25:50,379 --> 00:25:52,736
That's just so the jury
doesn't get confused.
399
00:25:52,737 --> 00:25:53,977
No problem.
400
00:25:54,017 --> 00:25:57,296
Mr Evans, are you content to
begin your cross-examination...?
401
00:25:57,297 --> 00:25:59,230
Why did you change your name?
402
00:26:01,455 --> 00:26:04,122
Cos he was the one
that called me Adrian.
403
00:26:05,255 --> 00:26:07,787
It was more of a girl's name
back then.
404
00:26:08,655 --> 00:26:12,253
You know that Johnny Cash song,
A Boy Named Sue?
405
00:26:13,414 --> 00:26:15,093
He played it constantly.
406
00:26:16,653 --> 00:26:19,052
"Adrian, they're playing your song."
407
00:26:20,812 --> 00:26:22,172
He said he called me a girl's name
408
00:26:22,173 --> 00:26:25,072
for the same reason
as the father in the song.
409
00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:27,210
To toughen me up...
410
00:26:28,009 --> 00:26:29,689
...cos I'd have to fight.
411
00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:33,076
Maybe it's the one thing
he got right.
412
00:26:34,409 --> 00:26:36,089
I'm a stubborn bastard.
413
00:26:37,687 --> 00:26:39,327
Isn't it true, Adrian,
414
00:26:39,328 --> 00:26:43,206
that when you were living
at 28 Rose Meadow Lane
415
00:26:43,246 --> 00:26:45,924
you often used to wear
your father's clothes?
416
00:26:45,925 --> 00:26:48,046
No, I never wore his clothes.
417
00:26:48,086 --> 00:26:50,204
What about gloves, Adrian?
418
00:26:50,244 --> 00:26:53,683
Isn't it true that you were
the glove-wearer of the family?
419
00:26:53,684 --> 00:26:56,604
I used to wear gloves.
But so did he.
420
00:26:56,644 --> 00:26:58,883
And who do you mean by "he"?
421
00:27:00,803 --> 00:27:03,082
John Cooper.
422
00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:05,082
Your father?
423
00:27:06,961 --> 00:27:09,160
Yes, sir.
424
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,400
Isn't it true, Adrian,
that from the age of 11
425
00:27:13,439 --> 00:27:17,118
you started to become disobedient
both at home and at school?
426
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,758
Yes, a bit, maybe.
427
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,156
Your disobedience developed
into theft, did it not,
428
00:27:21,157 --> 00:27:23,037
stealing money from your mother
and father?
429
00:27:23,038 --> 00:27:24,078
No!
430
00:27:24,118 --> 00:27:26,435
I never stole any money
from my parents.
431
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:27,956
I'm not a thief.
432
00:27:29,755 --> 00:27:32,514
A few days after the murders
of Mr and Mrs Dixon,
433
00:27:32,515 --> 00:27:35,994
a gold band was sold
to a jewellers in Pembroke Dock,
434
00:27:36,035 --> 00:27:38,673
which the prosecution claim
435
00:27:38,713 --> 00:27:42,792
was the wedding ring the killer
removed from Peter Dixon's corpse.
436
00:27:42,793 --> 00:27:46,032
The transaction was recorded
by the jeweller on a receipt
437
00:27:46,033 --> 00:27:49,471
bearing the signature J Cooper.
438
00:27:49,511 --> 00:27:51,270
The court has heard
that your father,
439
00:27:51,271 --> 00:27:53,669
John William Cooper,
stated that the sig...
440
00:27:53,670 --> 00:27:54,910
AUDIO BREAKS UP
441
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:56,428
...jeweller's receipt was not...
442
00:27:56,429 --> 00:27:57,508
AUDIO BREAKS UP
443
00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:01,389
...and that the usual form
of his signature is JW Cooper.
444
00:28:01,428 --> 00:28:03,947
Isn't it true, Adrian,
that when you lived at...
445
00:28:03,948 --> 00:28:06,666
- AUDIO BREAKS UP
- 28 Rose Meadow Lane, you were in
446
00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:09,386
the habit of forging the signatures
of both your mother and father
447
00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:12,346
for the purpose of fraudulently
cashing cheques in their names?
448
00:28:12,347 --> 00:28:13,585
No, that's totally untrue.
449
00:28:13,586 --> 00:28:15,504
You deny that you were
an accomplished forger
450
00:28:15,505 --> 00:28:17,065
of both your mother...
451
00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:19,064
- AUDIO BREAKS UP
- ..and father's signature?
452
00:28:19,065 --> 00:28:21,743
- I can't hear what you're saying.
- Can't hear...
453
00:28:21,744 --> 00:28:23,864
...or refuse to hear, Adrian?
454
00:28:23,903 --> 00:28:26,461
Sorry, Mr Evans, we're having
a technical issue this end.
455
00:28:26,462 --> 00:28:29,534
Your voice keeps cutting out.
One minute, please.
456
00:28:34,741 --> 00:28:37,340
Carry on, Mr Evans.
It should be OK now.
457
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:41,060
I put it to you, Adrian,
458
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,457
that for reasons known
only to yourself, you have long
459
00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:47,538
harboured a passionate vendetta
against your father.
460
00:28:47,539 --> 00:28:49,496
That, because of this vendetta,
461
00:28:49,497 --> 00:28:51,537
in your dealings
with the police in both
462
00:28:51,538 --> 00:28:53,975
the Huntsman
and the Ottawa investigations,
463
00:28:53,976 --> 00:28:56,736
you have done everything
in your power
464
00:28:56,777 --> 00:28:59,454
to assist them in
their singled-minded persecution
465
00:28:59,455 --> 00:29:00,895
of your father.
466
00:29:00,935 --> 00:29:03,614
Indeed, that you see your appearance
in court today as merely
467
00:29:03,615 --> 00:29:05,972
another opportunity
to spread more lies.
468
00:29:05,973 --> 00:29:08,440
Do you really think
I want to be here?
469
00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:26,676
Erin, Leanne,
thank you for coming.
470
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:30,968
These are our parents
and Erin's husband.
471
00:29:32,089 --> 00:29:35,047
Er, we'll show you to the room
you'll be giving your evidence from.
472
00:29:35,048 --> 00:29:39,247
We've decided
to give our evidence in court.
473
00:29:40,206 --> 00:29:41,246
Oh?
474
00:29:42,566 --> 00:29:44,046
Karen died.
475
00:29:45,445 --> 00:29:46,724
What happened?
476
00:29:46,765 --> 00:29:48,365
Her health...
477
00:29:48,404 --> 00:29:51,403
finally gave out.
478
00:29:51,443 --> 00:29:53,883
- We're doing this for her.
- Yeah.
479
00:29:53,923 --> 00:29:55,989
- And Stephen and David.
- Yeah.
480
00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:09,239
Are you OK?
481
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,719
Tissues and water.
482
00:30:30,035 --> 00:30:32,954
We often played in the woods...
483
00:30:32,995 --> 00:30:34,433
by our estate.
484
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:37,953
There was a rope swing.
485
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:40,260
So, we were mucking about on that.
486
00:30:43,151 --> 00:30:44,671
About...
487
00:30:44,711 --> 00:30:47,710
eight o'clock it got dark,
so we headed home.
488
00:30:47,751 --> 00:30:50,695
We took the shortcut
across the farmer's field.
489
00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:55,629
We were about halfway along
when we heard a noise.
490
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:57,468
SHE CLEARS HER THROAT
491
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:59,628
We all turned round...
492
00:30:59,668 --> 00:31:03,635
and saw someone coming towards us,
shining a torch in our eyes.
493
00:31:05,146 --> 00:31:08,946
I thought it was a boy we knew,
so I shouted at him...
494
00:31:11,586 --> 00:31:15,105
..."Shine the light in our eyes,
why don't you, Martin?"
495
00:31:17,184 --> 00:31:20,304
But the person shouted back
in a man's voice...
496
00:31:21,623 --> 00:31:23,983
..."Do I look like Martin?"
497
00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:28,809
We all thought
it was the farmer then.
498
00:31:29,661 --> 00:31:30,782
But, erm...
499
00:31:30,822 --> 00:31:37,139
as he came closer, we could see he
had a mask on over his head with...
500
00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,980
holes for the mouth and eyes...
501
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:43,579
and er, he had a shotgun
pointing at us.
502
00:31:45,538 --> 00:31:51,297
Er, David started to apologise
to the man for us being on his land.
503
00:31:51,337 --> 00:31:53,776
The man told him to shut up
504
00:31:53,816 --> 00:31:56,455
and er, he...
505
00:31:56,496 --> 00:31:59,028
hit him over the head
with the shotgun.
506
00:32:00,055 --> 00:32:01,094
And, erm...
507
00:32:05,014 --> 00:32:07,213
...David started crying then.
508
00:32:07,253 --> 00:32:11,812
And then he told us to walk down
to the lower part of the field,
509
00:32:11,851 --> 00:32:14,371
which you can't see from the estate.
510
00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:17,491
He...
511
00:32:17,531 --> 00:32:19,650
made us say our names.
512
00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:21,689
His voice was angry.
513
00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:23,463
We were all really scared.
514
00:32:24,408 --> 00:32:27,416
And then he told us
to lie down on the ground...
515
00:32:28,049 --> 00:32:30,381
...and keep our faces in the grass.
516
00:32:31,447 --> 00:32:33,126
And then I felt him...
517
00:32:34,086 --> 00:32:36,846
pulling my hair at the back.
518
00:32:41,526 --> 00:32:43,205
He told me to stand up...
519
00:32:48,123 --> 00:32:49,803
...and to go with him.
520
00:32:52,402 --> 00:32:55,281
Mrs Davies, the ordeal
that you and your friends suffered
521
00:32:55,282 --> 00:32:58,601
on the evening of 6th March 1996
522
00:32:58,641 --> 00:33:00,400
happened 15 years ago.
523
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,120
You were a girl of 16.
524
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,321
Yeah.
525
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040
You were terrified. It was dark.
526
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:07,118
Given all that,
527
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,318
how reliable
do you think your memory is
528
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:11,386
of the events which took place?
529
00:33:12,438 --> 00:33:15,437
I remember every detail
like it was yesterday.
530
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:20,397
You don't forget
something like that.
531
00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:23,196
You try to.
532
00:33:24,556 --> 00:33:26,315
But you can't.
533
00:33:26,354 --> 00:33:29,834
Did the man who attacked you
ever remove his mask?
534
00:33:31,113 --> 00:33:32,113
No.
535
00:33:33,274 --> 00:33:35,072
So, to be clear...
536
00:33:36,152 --> 00:33:40,871
...at no time did you, or any
of your friends, see his face?
537
00:33:45,670 --> 00:33:46,681
No.
538
00:34:01,406 --> 00:34:03,304
This man in the photograph
is the real John Cooper.
539
00:34:03,305 --> 00:34:06,952
A loving husband who was married
to his wife for 42 years.
540
00:34:07,903 --> 00:34:10,664
We had a son
who was the apple of our eye.
541
00:34:12,463 --> 00:34:15,726
An apple that went bad
and broke his mother's heart.
542
00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:19,742
I believe that the heart attack
that killed my wife
543
00:34:19,782 --> 00:34:21,915
was brought on because of the...
544
00:34:21,941 --> 00:34:25,781
the stress,
the sadness and the shame
545
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:29,980
because of all the time that I spent
in prison as an innocent man.
546
00:34:30,621 --> 00:34:33,899
The police and Mr Elias
tell you I'm a liar.
547
00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:37,580
That I'm lying when I say
that most of my clothes,
548
00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:40,578
most significantly,
my khaki bathers, were second-hand.
549
00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:41,779
Well...
550
00:34:41,818 --> 00:34:44,257
obviously, they don't know
what it's like to be poor.
551
00:34:44,258 --> 00:34:47,097
This suit that I'm wearing today,
it's second-hand.
552
00:34:47,098 --> 00:34:48,617
In my wardrobe at home,
553
00:34:48,618 --> 00:34:52,777
I've got an overcoat second-hand
that I wore to my wife's funeral.
554
00:34:54,257 --> 00:34:57,695
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I spent ten years of my life
555
00:34:57,696 --> 00:35:00,014
in prison
for crimes that I did not commit.
556
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:02,256
Please... Please, do not allow
557
00:35:02,296 --> 00:35:06,615
the police to carry out another
miscarriage of justice against me.
558
00:35:07,615 --> 00:35:09,533
I am not a murderer.
559
00:35:09,574 --> 00:35:11,694
I am not a rapist.
560
00:35:11,734 --> 00:35:14,654
I am an innocent man
who's been wronged.
561
00:35:14,694 --> 00:35:16,053
Thank you.
562
00:35:18,213 --> 00:35:19,733
Mr Elias...
563
00:35:19,773 --> 00:35:21,331
it's a quarter to four.
564
00:35:21,332 --> 00:35:24,291
This would probably be
a suitable time for me to rise.
565
00:35:24,292 --> 00:35:26,571
Are you content to begin
your cross-examination
566
00:35:26,572 --> 00:35:28,091
of Mr Cooper tomorrow?
567
00:35:28,092 --> 00:35:29,529
If My Lord would permit,
568
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:31,969
I would like to have
a few minutes with Mr Cooper.
569
00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:35,130
- Very well, Mr Elias.
- Thank you, My Lord.
570
00:35:35,170 --> 00:35:37,170
All right, Mr Cooper...
571
00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:39,528
I would like to ask you
a few questions about
572
00:35:39,529 --> 00:35:41,327
the balaclava which was discovered
573
00:35:41,328 --> 00:35:43,927
under the hedgerow near the scene
of the Sardis robbery.
574
00:35:43,928 --> 00:35:46,729
Ladies and gentlemen,
you will remember
575
00:35:46,769 --> 00:35:51,608
that this is the balaclava which,
in the course of the Huntsman trial,
576
00:35:51,648 --> 00:35:53,008
it was found that
577
00:35:53,048 --> 00:35:56,823
there were a number of the
defendant's head hairs within it.
578
00:35:57,846 --> 00:36:02,206
Could you please give Mr Cooper
exhibit MTJ/14, please?
579
00:36:04,405 --> 00:36:06,524
It's all right, Mr Cooper.
580
00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,483
The item has been cleared
forensically.
581
00:36:08,484 --> 00:36:11,351
Touching it won't compromise you
in any way.
582
00:36:16,244 --> 00:36:17,644
Mr Cooper...
583
00:36:17,684 --> 00:36:19,363
is that your balaclava?
584
00:36:20,643 --> 00:36:22,001
To the best of my knowledge.
585
00:36:22,002 --> 00:36:23,682
Yes or no, Mr Cooper?
586
00:36:24,603 --> 00:36:28,001
Yes. But I did not commit
the Sardis robbery.
587
00:36:28,042 --> 00:36:30,241
Like I said,
that was stolen off my boat
588
00:36:30,242 --> 00:36:31,999
long before it was found
under the hedgerow.
589
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,800
But you accept
that the balaclava is yours?
590
00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:37,440
Yes.
591
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Mr Cooper, that isn't what you told
the jury during the Huntsman trial
592
00:36:42,359 --> 00:36:43,879
in 1998, is it?
593
00:36:44,918 --> 00:36:46,639
I know. I made a mistake.
594
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:52,118
During that trial, under oath, you
denied that the balaclava was yours.
595
00:36:53,758 --> 00:36:56,397
So, my question to you, Mr Cooper,
596
00:36:56,437 --> 00:36:59,597
is were you lying to the jury
then...
597
00:36:59,637 --> 00:37:02,964
- or are you lying to the jury now?
- I'm not a liar.
598
00:37:03,276 --> 00:37:05,794
- I forgot. I made a mistake.
- Let me rephrase the question.
599
00:37:05,795 --> 00:37:07,075
What was the truth?
600
00:37:07,076 --> 00:37:10,953
What you told the jury in 1998
or what you've told the jury today?
601
00:37:10,954 --> 00:37:13,314
No, I didn't deliberately...
602
00:37:13,354 --> 00:37:14,473
I misremembered.
603
00:37:14,474 --> 00:37:18,674
Misremembered in 1998
or misremembered today, Mr Cooper?
604
00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:23,753
Mr Cooper...
605
00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:25,351
the question is a simple one.
606
00:37:25,352 --> 00:37:26,553
Which was it?
607
00:37:26,593 --> 00:37:31,112
What you said to the court in 1998
or what you have told us today?
608
00:37:37,191 --> 00:37:38,390
Today.
609
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:42,349
So, you admit that in 1998
you lied to that jury?
610
00:37:42,389 --> 00:37:44,656
- Yes, but...
- Thank you, My Lord.
611
00:37:50,629 --> 00:37:51,709
So...
612
00:37:52,709 --> 00:37:54,388
...members of the jury...
613
00:37:55,228 --> 00:37:59,132
...it is now time for you to retire
to consider your verdicts.
614
00:38:00,067 --> 00:38:03,426
Remember, at all times,
you must keep in mind
615
00:38:03,466 --> 00:38:07,784
that it is for the Crown to prove
the guilt of John William Cooper...
616
00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:11,465
...not for the defence
to prove his innocence.
617
00:38:11,505 --> 00:38:16,225
If the Crown have failed to do that,
then you must find him...
618
00:38:16,265 --> 00:38:17,784
not guilty.
619
00:38:24,224 --> 00:38:27,223
BELL TOLLS
620
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:39,340
- All right?
- Yeah.
621
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,820
What are those?
622
00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:44,059
That's my post-verdict statements
for the press.
623
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:45,859
Guilty. Not guilty.
624
00:38:46,899 --> 00:38:50,458
Well, you can get rid of that one.
625
00:38:50,498 --> 00:38:52,659
That's my letter of resignation.
626
00:38:52,699 --> 00:38:54,259
What?
627
00:38:54,298 --> 00:38:57,241
I'd have failed the victims
and their families.
628
00:39:01,538 --> 00:39:03,217
DOOR OPENS
629
00:39:05,257 --> 00:39:07,057
DOOR CLOSES
630
00:39:10,656 --> 00:39:12,176
Verdict.
631
00:39:12,216 --> 00:39:13,496
All rise!
632
00:39:17,374 --> 00:39:19,655
Whatever the judgment is...
633
00:39:19,695 --> 00:39:21,694
we receive it with dignity.
634
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:26,574
Ella, Lynne, Glyn, Nigel, Rambo,
it's been an honour
635
00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:28,332
and a privilege.
636
00:39:33,452 --> 00:39:35,652
- Cheers, boss.
- Cheers, boss.
637
00:39:35,692 --> 00:39:38,159
Let's have the jury in,
please.
638
00:39:58,169 --> 00:40:00,568
Will the foreman
please stand?
639
00:40:02,447 --> 00:40:04,648
Will the defendant please stand?
640
00:40:07,326 --> 00:40:09,086
My Lord,
the jury has been in retirement
641
00:40:09,087 --> 00:40:12,030
- for eight hours and ten minutes.
- Thank you.
642
00:40:13,686 --> 00:40:17,646
Mr Foreman, please answer
my next question yes or no.
643
00:40:17,686 --> 00:40:21,004
Have you reached a verdict
on which you are all agreed?
644
00:40:21,005 --> 00:40:22,565
Yes.
645
00:40:22,605 --> 00:40:25,524
Is that in relation
to all 11 counts?
646
00:40:25,564 --> 00:40:26,803
Yes.
647
00:40:27,843 --> 00:40:31,802
On count one of the indictment,
the murder of Helen Thomas,
648
00:40:31,842 --> 00:40:35,163
do you find the defendant,
John William Cooper,
649
00:40:35,203 --> 00:40:36,883
guilty or not guilty?
650
00:40:40,122 --> 00:40:42,522
- Guilty.
- Guilty.
651
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,721
On count two of the indictment,
652
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,958
the murder of Richard Thomas,
guilty or not guilty?
653
00:40:49,959 --> 00:40:52,120
- Guilty.
- Guilty.
654
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,398
On count three of the indictment,
655
00:40:56,438 --> 00:41:00,679
the murder of Gwenda Dixon,
guilty or not guilty?
656
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,598
Guilty.
657
00:41:02,638 --> 00:41:05,718
On count four of the indictment,
658
00:41:05,757 --> 00:41:08,764
the murder of Peter Dixon,
guilty or not guilty?
659
00:41:09,557 --> 00:41:10,557
Guilty.
660
00:41:11,717 --> 00:41:14,517
On count five of the indictment,
661
00:41:14,557 --> 00:41:16,395
the rape of Erin Davies,
662
00:41:16,435 --> 00:41:17,875
nee James...
663
00:41:19,156 --> 00:41:20,836
...guilty or not guilty?
664
00:41:23,874 --> 00:41:25,834
- Guilty.
- Rubbish!
665
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:27,833
That's rubbish!
666
00:41:27,873 --> 00:41:29,994
I'm not a child rapist!
667
00:41:30,034 --> 00:41:31,593
This is not justice!
668
00:41:31,594 --> 00:41:35,951
On count six of the indictment, the
indecent assault of Leanne Dauncey,
669
00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:37,713
guilty or not guilty?
670
00:41:39,233 --> 00:41:41,072
- Guilty.
- This is rubbish!
671
00:41:41,112 --> 00:41:42,910
You've not heard all the evidence!
672
00:41:42,911 --> 00:41:45,378
This is a fit-up!
This is not justice!
673
00:41:45,391 --> 00:41:48,110
Mr Cooper, be quiet,
or I will have you removed.
674
00:41:48,111 --> 00:41:50,111
We love you, John!
675
00:41:50,151 --> 00:41:54,349
On counts seven, eight, nine, ten
and 11,
676
00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:58,829
the offences of attempted robbery,
guilty or not guilty?
677
00:41:58,869 --> 00:42:00,189
Guilty.
678
00:42:02,388 --> 00:42:03,668
John William Cooper,
679
00:42:03,669 --> 00:42:07,027
the jury have found you guilty
of all 11 counts on the indictment.
680
00:42:07,028 --> 00:42:08,466
Shut up, you stupid bastard!
681
00:42:08,467 --> 00:42:11,667
I hereby sentence you
to life imprisonment.
682
00:42:11,707 --> 00:42:14,146
The crimes for which
you have been convicted
683
00:42:14,147 --> 00:42:18,345
are of such evil wickedness,
the mandatory sentence of life...
684
00:42:18,385 --> 00:42:21,706
- This is not justice!
- ..will mean just that.
685
00:42:21,745 --> 00:42:24,744
- I'm an innocent man!
- Take him down.
686
00:42:24,784 --> 00:42:26,705
This is not justice!
687
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:28,303
This is persecution!
688
00:42:28,304 --> 00:42:32,743
Persecution of John Cooper,
carried out by Steve Wilkins!
689
00:42:32,783 --> 00:42:36,262
A man is gonna spend time in prison
for a crime he did not commit!
690
00:42:36,263 --> 00:42:38,795
I am not a rapist!
I am not a murderer!
691
00:42:40,143 --> 00:42:42,262
This is a fit-up!
692
00:42:42,302 --> 00:42:44,968
I am not a murderer!
693
00:42:49,621 --> 00:42:53,021
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
694
00:42:53,061 --> 00:42:56,099
Today's verdicts give the families
of Richard and Helen Thomas,
695
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,778
Peter and Gwenda Dixon,
696
00:42:57,779 --> 00:43:00,338
and the five victims
of the Nolton Hill attack
697
00:43:00,339 --> 00:43:02,898
and their families justice.
698
00:43:02,938 --> 00:43:05,698
But there is no sentence
the court could have imposed
699
00:43:05,699 --> 00:43:06,857
on John William Cooper
700
00:43:06,858 --> 00:43:09,801
that could ever compensate them
for their loss.
701
00:43:10,297 --> 00:43:13,817
Today's verdicts
are a warning to all individuals
702
00:43:13,857 --> 00:43:16,056
who would commit
such terrible crimes.
703
00:43:16,057 --> 00:43:17,737
Whatever they touch...
704
00:43:18,856 --> 00:43:20,854
...will bear witness against them.
705
00:43:20,855 --> 00:43:22,335
Evidence lasts.
706
00:43:22,375 --> 00:43:24,056
It does not forget.
707
00:43:24,096 --> 00:43:25,656
And it cannot lie.
708
00:43:28,215 --> 00:43:31,933
And it will always be found
by those with the will to find it.
709
00:43:31,934 --> 00:43:33,614
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
710
00:43:33,654 --> 00:43:35,373
Thank you.
711
00:43:39,333 --> 00:43:41,613
On behalf of Dyfed Powys Police,
712
00:43:41,653 --> 00:43:45,331
I would like to pay tribute
to the officers of Operation Ottawa
713
00:43:45,332 --> 00:43:48,891
for their diligence
and their professionalism.
714
00:43:51,052 --> 00:43:53,784
Are you ready for your exclusive,
Mr Hill?
715
00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:55,450
Thanks, Steve.
716
00:43:57,091 --> 00:43:58,889
- Are we good?
- Yeah.
717
00:44:02,090 --> 00:44:06,633
Detective Superintendent, can I get
your reaction to today's sentencing?
718
00:44:10,248 --> 00:44:12,246
Yeah, really great. Really nice.
719
00:44:12,247 --> 00:44:14,207
- Yeah?
- Brilliant. Yeah, it's amazing.
720
00:44:14,208 --> 00:44:15,888
- Great.
- It's all here.
721
00:44:15,927 --> 00:44:17,087
- He loves it?
- Yeah.
722
00:44:17,088 --> 00:44:19,246
- Awesome.
- It's all yours.
723
00:44:19,286 --> 00:44:21,087
- Much appreciated.
- Enjoy.
724
00:44:21,127 --> 00:44:23,127
I'll look after it, I promise.
725
00:44:23,607 --> 00:44:25,166
Thanks.
726
00:44:48,163 --> 00:44:49,562
Boss...
727
00:44:49,602 --> 00:44:51,402
Visitor for you downstairs.
728
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,360
Hey, what's this?
729
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,159
- I thought you were in school?
- Yeah, I got the afternoon off.
730
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,599
I thought I'd come and see
where it all happened.
731
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,199
Well, there's not much to see now.
732
00:45:10,438 --> 00:45:14,797
"There is no greater responsibility
or duty placed on a human being
733
00:45:14,837 --> 00:45:17,637
"than to investigate
the circumstances of the death
734
00:45:17,638 --> 00:45:19,318
"of another human being."
735
00:45:20,836 --> 00:45:22,836
Quite the job description, eh?
736
00:45:39,075 --> 00:45:41,474
I've decided
sixth form's not for me.
737
00:45:42,514 --> 00:45:44,194
Are you OK with that?
738
00:45:45,393 --> 00:45:47,673
- Does your mother know?
- Yeah.
739
00:45:48,872 --> 00:45:50,072
She blames you.
740
00:45:51,153 --> 00:45:52,672
Of course she does.
741
00:45:57,231 --> 00:45:59,563
I'm thinking of joining the police.
742
00:46:01,631 --> 00:46:02,991
Seriously?
743
00:46:04,111 --> 00:46:05,708
What about the football?
744
00:46:05,709 --> 00:46:07,429
Ah, come on, Dad.
745
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:10,190
I'm good, but I'm not that good.
746
00:46:10,229 --> 00:46:13,108
What makes you think
you'd be any better as a policeman?
747
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:14,948
You made a success of it.
How hard can it be?
748
00:46:14,949 --> 00:46:16,908
Watch it!
749
00:46:16,949 --> 00:46:18,387
STEVE CHUCKLES
750
00:46:22,948 --> 00:46:25,346
WAVES BREAK
751
00:46:58,982 --> 00:47:00,942
I should've stayed.
752
00:47:04,461 --> 00:47:06,300
We should've talked.
753
00:47:10,779 --> 00:47:12,660
I'm sorry, Ma.
754
00:47:15,258 --> 00:47:19,019
♪ Huna blentyn
755
00:47:19,059 --> 00:47:22,897
♪ Ar fy mynwes
756
00:47:22,938 --> 00:47:26,937
♪ Clyd a chynnes
757
00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:30,577
♪ Ydyw hon
758
00:47:30,617 --> 00:47:34,775
♪ Breichiau mam sy'n
759
00:47:34,815 --> 00:47:38,576
♪ Dynn amdanat
760
00:47:38,616 --> 00:47:43,242
♪ Cariad mam sy dan fy mron. ♪
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