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Anwen.
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Long time.
Steve.
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We've done as you asked,
removed Cooper from the scene.
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He is giving a statement
down at Haverfordwest Station.
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The paramedics put her
on the floor for CPR.
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We need the Home Office pathologist
on this.
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I'll call the coroner.
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And Anwen...
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make sure everyone knows
it's possible there's no crime here.
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Cooper should be treated
as sensitively
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as any husband
who's just lost his wife.
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ELLA: There's no signs
of a struggle.
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No bruising on the arms or neck.
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We could have prevented this.
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We won't know if he killed her until
we get the pathologist's report.
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Till then, he won't be allowed
back in the house.
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He's staying with his brother.
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But this is a warning.
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John Cooper is out,
and no good can come of that.
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And...
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we could be shut down any day.
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So, it's not good enough
for us to sit around
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waiting for forensics
to save our arses.
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We have to make something happen.
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Those khaki shorts are out there.
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Morning.
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Ahead of you is 28 Rose Meadow Lane,
Cooper's last home.
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Behind you is Sardis village.
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This was his hunting ground.
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Those fields were his rat runs.
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And thanks to Huntsman, we know that
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these hedgerows
were his so-called "safes",
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where he hid items he'd stolen
or his offending gear.
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Now, these khaki shorts
worried him in the interviews.
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He thinks they're out there still.
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PHONE RINGS
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Steve Wilkins, hello.
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'Hello, Mr Wilkins. It's
the Home Office pathologist here.'
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Hello, sir.
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Thank you for getting back to me
so promptly.
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'The results of Pat Cooper's
postmortem.' Yeah?
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'She died of natural causes.'
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Natural causes?
'Yes.'
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'It was clearly heart failure.'
Her heart?
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OK.
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All right.
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Well, thank you for getting back.
We appreciate it.
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'No problem.'
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She saw this coming.
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She had an ad cut out from the paper
about arranging your own funeral.
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She knew.
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She knew living with him again
would be the death of her.
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Do you think
he'll try and make contact with you?
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No chance.
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What about the funeral?
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He won't want me there.
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What about what you want?
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If you want to attend your mother's
funeral, we can help with that.
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Too much aggro.
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I'll go see her in my own time.
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Andrew...
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on behalf of my team and myself...
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I'm sorry.
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It wasn't your fault.
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Bad things happen around bad men.
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He's right, Steve.
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It wasn't our fault.
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If Cooper was still inside,
Pat would still be alive
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and Andrew
would still have a mother.
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HE SIGHS
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But with Pat out of the picture,
he's even more dangerous.
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It's like a ticking time bomb.
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Living on his own
is new territory for him.
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Just him and his thoughts.
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His fantasies, compulsions.
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Ten years' worth.
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PRIEST: We have come together
to commend our sister Patricia
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into the hands of Almighty God,
our heavenly father.
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In the presence of death,
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Christians have sure grounds
for hope and confidence,
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and even joy,
because the Lord Jesus Christ,
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who shared our human life and death,
was raised again triumphant
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and lives evermore.
In this faith, we put our trust.
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Help us, we humbly beseech thee,
Lord.
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ALL: Amen.
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Fuck!
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Glyn...
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Huntsman recovered all the items
of clothing from the house, correct?
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Yeah, they did, yeah.
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And they photographed every item?
Yeah.
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Khaki shorts.
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They're the same.
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There's something wrong
with this picture.
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Could the colour be affected
by the processing? The flash?
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Yeah, I guess so.
And it's an old picture.
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We need to see what these shorts
actually look like.
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Jesus Christ...
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They are khaki.
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But they do look a lot shorter.
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Maybe he had them altered.
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Pat was a seamstress.
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May I?
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Oh, Steve, elasticated waistband.
No fly.
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They...
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They look like women's shorts.
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Yeah, well, they're all we've got.
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We're sending them in for testing.
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PHONE RINGS
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Steve Wilkins.
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'Steve, it's Angela Gallop.'
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'Are you driving, by any chance?'
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It's OK, you're on speaker.
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'I think you'd better pull over.'
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OK.
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What is it?
'Right...'
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So, we unpicked the hem
of the shorts, like you asked,
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and we taped the uncovered area
for fibres
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'and noticed there is a faint stain.
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'So, we went back
to the exact same spot'
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on the shorts and...
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..found a tiny flake of blood.
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It's Peter Dixon's.
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How sure are you?
'Full profile.'
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The probability of that blood
having come from anybody else
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'is a billion to one.
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'It's your golden nugget, Steve.'
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Steve?
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'Are you still there?'
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Please, don't take this
the wrong way...
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..but I bloody love you!
SHE LAUGHS
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Charge him with the lot.
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Including Nolton Hill?
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The lot.
Yes!
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Check the vehicle.
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We're going in.
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Morning, John.
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John William Cooper,
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you're under arrest for the murders
of Helen and Richard Thomas...
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Fuck off! Get off me!
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..and Peter and Gwenda Dixon.
Fuck off! You are also under arrest
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for attempted armed robbery,
rape and sexual assault
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during an attack on five teenagers
in Milford Haven in 1996.
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Boss...
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Jesus...
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And I found this
in the glove compartment.
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We got him just in time.
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DOOR OPENS
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Right, John.
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You know
Detective Inspector Richards.
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I am Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins.
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I know who you are.
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Can you see OK, John?
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I've got a spare pair of glasses
if you need them.
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HE SIGHS
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That's me.
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That isn't.
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The last time we met, you said
you'd never had collar-length hair.
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Oh, so I forgot that I had
collar-length hair 20 years ago.
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It's not a crime, is it?
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Let's talk about the shorts the man
in the drawing's wearing, John.
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Mr Cooper is being shown
a photo of item AJM/165.
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The khaki shorts recovered by
Huntsman from 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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Now, the last time you spoke to us,
John,
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you said that
you'd once owned a pair of
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what you described as khaki bathers.
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Is that them?
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Well...
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if they're from my home, maybe.
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Strictly speaking,
they're not bathers, John.
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The fabric's too heavy.
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I used them as bathers.
So, to me, that's what they are.
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During the interview in July 2008,
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you said that the shorts
worn by the man in the drawing
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couldn't possibly be yours
as your bathers were much shorter.
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HE SCOFFS
See for yourself.
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For the tape, I'm showing Mr Cooper
item AJM/165/B.
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We unpicked the hem, John.
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So, do you see how,
with the excess fabric turned down,
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the difference in length between
the two pairs of shorts is reduced?
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If you do that to any garment,
that's what'll happen.
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Yeah, we know your wife
used to work as a seamstress.
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Did she alter these shorts?
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You leave my wife out of this.
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Since the July 2008 interviews,
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certain forensic discoveries
have been made
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which we would like to discuss
with you
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so that you can have an opportunity
to comment.
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In reference to AJM/165/B,
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this white circle indicates an area
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where an amount of Peter Dixon's
blood was found.
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Can you give us an explanation
as to how that might be?
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Pat got most of my clothes
from the Oxfam and Army Surplus.
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Oh, and you should also
be talking to my son.
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As I told you all before, he was in
the habit of borrowing my clothes.
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John...
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was Peter Dixon's blood
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deposited on the khaki shorts
when you shot him?
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I've never killed anybody
in my life. These shorts...
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sorry, bathers...
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were something of a treasure trove,
John. Especially the pockets.
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Photo AJM/166.
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What this photo shows us, John,
is a microscopic image
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of the fluff found in the pockets
of your khaki bathers.
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Fluff that consisted of human hair.
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Yours. Skin cells. Also yours.
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But nothing of your son, though.
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Certain fabric fibres
were also found in the fluff.
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For the tape, glove BB/109,
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found under the hedgerow near
your home at 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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MTJ/5 and 7 recovered by Huntsman
from the Sardis trail.
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John, are these three gloves yours?
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Absolutely not.
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As I told you before, Adrian
was the glove-wearer in our family.
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I never wore gloves.
I found them too cumbersome.
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What about the new pair
we found in the boot of your car?
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Well...
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obviously, I wear gloves now.
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Now I'm older, I feel the cold more.
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Fibres exactly matching
the constituent fibres
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of these three gloves
were found in the fluff
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from the pockets
of your khaki bathers.
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How do you account for that?
Are you deaf?
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I told you, Adrian wore the bathers
more than me.
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When two articles of clothing
come into contact with each other,
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there is always
an exchange of fibres.
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On glove BB/109,
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our team found fibres
from another source.
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For the tape, BM/1,
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a sock belonging to Richard Thomas.
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The only item of clothing
recovered from his body
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after it was destroyed in the fire
at Scoveston Park in 1985.
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Fibres from this sock
were found on glove BB/109.
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And fibres from this glove
were found on this sock.
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Are you with me so far, John?
Oh, keep talking, yeah.
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I know you want to.
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These discoveries are consistent
with the accepted view
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that Richard Thomas' killer
wore gloves
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when he dragged his body
from the outbuilding
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into the main house at Scoveston.
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Are you listening to this, huh?
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This is Fantasy Island.
John...
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are you the person responsible
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for the murder
of Richard and Helen Thomas
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at Scoveston Park in December 1985?
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No.
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I was not.
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Fibres are the gifts
that keep on giving, John.
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Other fibres,
from a different source,
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were found on gloves MTJ/5 and 7.
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For the tape, BKG/9.
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Those fibres were an exact match
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with constituent fibres found
in the underwear of a young female
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who was raped
on the evening of the 6th March 1996
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in a field by the Nolton Hill
Estate, Milford Haven.
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John, are you the person who,
on 6th March 1996,
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pointed a gun at five young people,
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three females and two males,
on Nolton Hill
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and searched them for money?
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Mr Cooper has not answered.
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John, are you the person
who raped one of the young females?
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Mr Cooper has not answered.
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John, are you the person
who indecently assaulted
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one of the other young females?
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For the tape...
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PH/2, the sawn-off shotgun
found on the Sardis trail,
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which matches the description
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given by two of the victims
of the Nolton Hill attack,
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and the victim
in the Sardis robbery,
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a crime we know
you were convicted of in 1998.
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If you're gonna say
that you found my DNA
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on that, I told her...
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about the prosecution making me
handle it during the trial.
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Well, we did find DNA on the gun,
John.
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But not yours.
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You see the black finish
on the barrel and stock?
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Anvileen satin black metal paint.
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For the tape, JAW/100,
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recovered by Huntsman from the shed
at 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
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John...
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were you the one who applied
this paint to the barrel of the gun?
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That is not...
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my gun.
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We had the paint removed.
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On some of the flakes,
our forensic scientists
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noticed a reddish cast
that tested positive for blood.
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Peter Dixon's blood.
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John...
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did you shoot Peter and Gwenda Dixon
with this gun?
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What are you doing, John?
SOLICITOR: John...
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Sit down, John.
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DOG BARKS IN DISTANCE
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SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR
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Erin James?
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Erin Davies. I'm married.
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Hi, Erin.
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I'm Detective Inspector
Ella Richards.
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This is Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins.
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Mm, I remember you.
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Erin, we've recently arrested a man
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on suspicion of
committing four murders.
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We also believe he was the man
who attacked you
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and your friends in 1996.
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After all this time?
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I'm so sorry.
I realise this must be a shock.
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Why couldn't you have done this
13 years ago?
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Erin...
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may I say something?
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We know we let you down.
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All we want is to see to it the man
who hurt you and your friends
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never gets to hurt anyone else
ever again.
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And you can help make that happen.
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All of you will be assigned
Family Liaison Officers
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to support you and your family
through the process.
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The trial won't be for weeks yet.
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I won't be taking part in any trial.
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None of you will be required
to appear in court.
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Everything will be done
via video link.
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You won't have to be
in the same room as him.
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My husband doesn't know I was raped.
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How was it?
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Leanne Dauncey will testify.
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Erin's angry, but Leanne thinks
she can talk her round.
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Karen Joseph's out of the question.
She's practically housebound.
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She's had mental health issues
ever since the attack.
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The two boys won't cooperate,
either.
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Not after everything that happened
with the original investigation.
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'The trial begins
at Swansea Crown Court tomorrow
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'of 65-year-old John William Cooper
of Letterston, Pembrokeshire.
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'Cooper has been charged
with the four murders
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'and with the rape
and indecent assault
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'of two teenage girls
at Milford Haven in 1996.'
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The defence will make much
of the fact that the khaki shorts
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are indeed women's shorts.
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That it makes no sense
that the defendant was wearing them
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when he brutally murdered
Mr and Mrs Dixon.
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00:20:41,650 --> 00:20:45,610
But murder cases have a habit
of defying common sense.
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According to the son
of Mr and Mrs Dixon...
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..whenever his parents went walking
and his mother was wearing
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00:20:53,650 --> 00:20:56,689
long trousers, she would always
put a pair of shorts
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in her backpack
in case the weather turned warm.
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00:21:00,689 --> 00:21:03,489
But no shorts of any description
were found
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at the Coastal Path crime scene.
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00:21:06,209 --> 00:21:08,009
Why?
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00:21:09,689 --> 00:21:12,729
Imagine the sequence of events,
ladies and gentlemen.
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The defendant shoots the Dixons
at close range.
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He then moves their bodies
and covers them with branches.
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In the process,
some of their blood -
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judging by these distressing images,
probably a lot of their blood -
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gets onto his trousers.
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In a panic, he goes through
his victims' backpacks and finds...
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00:21:36,249 --> 00:21:39,489
..Mrs Dixon's khaki shorts.
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00:21:39,530 --> 00:21:41,729
He removes
his own blood-stained trousers
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00:21:41,769 --> 00:21:45,689
and puts on Mrs Dixon's shorts
and quits the scene,
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00:21:45,729 --> 00:21:49,330
taking his trousers with him,
unaware that a single spot
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00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:54,409
of Peter Dixon's blood
had found its way onto the shorts.
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00:22:00,929 --> 00:22:02,850
How come you're not inside?
359
00:22:04,810 --> 00:22:07,209
The SIO is the last Crown witness.
360
00:22:08,290 --> 00:22:10,810
I'm not allowed in
until I give my evidence.
361
00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:12,449
How are you feeling?
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00:22:13,769 --> 00:22:15,489
Ready as I'll ever be.
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00:22:16,769 --> 00:22:18,130
Come on.
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This police artist's impression
was based on
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a witness sighting of the defendant
as he withdrew cash
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from a NatWest ATM in Haverfordwest
using Peter Dixon's bank card.
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00:22:33,449 --> 00:22:38,330
The sighting was made two days after
the murder and yet, incredibly,
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00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:42,249
the defendant was still wearing
Mrs Dixon's khaki shorts.
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A hugely incriminating piece of
evidence linking him to two murders.
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00:22:47,209 --> 00:22:52,209
Why on earth had he not disposed of
them at the earliest opportunity?
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00:22:52,249 --> 00:22:56,489
Think about what that says about
the mind of John William Cooper.
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00:22:56,530 --> 00:22:59,050
Was he thumbing his nose
at the world,
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convinced that he was too clever
to be caught for his horrific crime?
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00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:08,370
Or was his motivation darker,
stranger?
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00:23:08,409 --> 00:23:13,969
Did he regard Mrs Dixon's shorts
as a trophy to be worn with pride...
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..and perhaps just a touch
of sexual gratification?
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00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:23,530
Whatever the explanation,
this drawing shows a killer
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00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:26,610
wearing an item of clothing
stolen from a woman
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he has murdered in cold blood.
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00:23:29,009 --> 00:23:31,890
The defendant has always maintained
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00:23:31,929 --> 00:23:34,330
that this drawing
bears no resemblance to himself
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00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,850
as he was in the summer of 1989.
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00:23:36,890 --> 00:23:39,929
But due to an extraordinary
quirk of fate,
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00:23:39,969 --> 00:23:42,530
one month before
the Coastal Path murders,
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his likeness was captured on video
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00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:48,890
during his appearance on a game show
on national television.
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00:23:49,969 --> 00:23:51,969
The resulting image speaks volumes.
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00:24:00,650 --> 00:24:02,409
STEVE: This is you.
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00:24:02,449 --> 00:24:04,769
Now, he can see you.
But you can't see him.
390
00:24:06,409 --> 00:24:08,769
And, er... be warned.
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00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:11,449
His defence barrister
will be rough with you.
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00:24:11,489 --> 00:24:13,810
He'll try and paint you
as the unreliable witness
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00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:15,209
with an axe to grind.
394
00:24:15,249 --> 00:24:17,009
No worries, Steve.
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00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:18,769
I've got my dragon scales
for protection.
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00:24:18,810 --> 00:24:20,650
JUDGE: 'Let's have the jury back in,
please.'
397
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:30,570
Both the barristers
will refer to you as Adrian.
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00:24:30,610 --> 00:24:32,929
That's just so the jury
doesn't get confused.
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00:24:32,969 --> 00:24:34,209
No problem.
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00:24:34,249 --> 00:24:37,489
JUDGE: 'Mr Evans, are you content to
begin your cross-examination...?'
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00:24:37,530 --> 00:24:39,209
Why did you change your name?
402
00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:43,689
Cos he was the one
that called me Adrian.
403
00:24:45,489 --> 00:24:47,409
It was more of a girl's name
back then.
404
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:52,489
You know that Johnny Cash song,
A Boy Named Sue?
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00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:55,290
He played it constantly.
406
00:24:56,890 --> 00:24:58,890
"Adrian, they're playing your song."
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00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:02,330
He said he called me a girl's name
408
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:04,249
for the same reason
as the father in the song.
409
00:25:05,929 --> 00:25:07,209
To toughen me up...
410
00:25:08,249 --> 00:25:09,449
..cos I'd have to fight.
411
00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:12,689
Maybe it's the one thing
he got right.
412
00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:16,249
I'm a stubborn bastard.
413
00:25:17,929 --> 00:25:19,530
Isn't it true, Adrian,
414
00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:23,449
that when you were living
at 28 Rose Meadow Lane
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00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:26,130
you often used to wear
your father's clothes?
416
00:25:26,169 --> 00:25:28,290
No, I never wore his clothes.
417
00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:30,449
What about gloves, Adrian?
418
00:25:30,489 --> 00:25:32,850
Isn't it true that you were
the glove-wearer of the family?
419
00:25:33,929 --> 00:25:36,850
I used to wear gloves.
But so did he.
420
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:39,130
And who do you mean by "he"?
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00:25:41,050 --> 00:25:43,330
John Cooper.
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00:25:43,370 --> 00:25:45,330
Your father?
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00:25:47,209 --> 00:25:49,409
Yes, sir.
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00:25:49,449 --> 00:25:53,650
Isn't it true, Adrian,
that from the age of 11
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00:25:53,689 --> 00:25:57,330
you started to become disobedient
both at home and at school?
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00:25:57,370 --> 00:25:59,009
Yes, a bit, maybe.
427
00:25:59,050 --> 00:26:01,370
Your disobedience developed
into theft, did it not,
428
00:26:01,409 --> 00:26:03,249
stealing money from your mother
and father?
429
00:26:03,290 --> 00:26:04,330
No!
430
00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:06,650
I never stole any money
from my parents.
431
00:26:06,689 --> 00:26:08,209
I'm not a thief.
432
00:26:10,009 --> 00:26:12,729
A few days after the murders
of Mr and Mrs Dixon,
433
00:26:12,769 --> 00:26:16,249
a gold band was sold
to a jewellers in Pembroke Dock,
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00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:18,929
which the prosecution claim
435
00:26:18,969 --> 00:26:23,009
was the wedding ring the killer
removed from Peter Dixon's corpse.
436
00:26:23,050 --> 00:26:26,249
The transaction was recorded
by the jeweller on a receipt
437
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:29,729
bearing the signature J Cooper.
438
00:26:29,769 --> 00:26:31,489
The court has heard
that your father,
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00:26:31,530 --> 00:26:33,890
John William Cooper,
stated that the sig...
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00:26:33,929 --> 00:26:35,169
AUDIO BREAKS UP
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00:26:35,209 --> 00:26:36,650
..jeweller's receipt was not...
442
00:26:36,689 --> 00:26:37,729
AUDIO BREAKS UP
443
00:26:37,769 --> 00:26:41,650
..and that the usual form
of his signature is JW Cooper.
444
00:26:41,689 --> 00:26:44,169
Isn't it true, Adrian,
that when you lived at...
445
00:26:44,209 --> 00:26:46,890
AUDIO BREAKS UP
'28 Rose Meadow Lane, you were in'
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00:26:46,929 --> 00:26:49,610
the habit of forging the signatures
of both your mother and father
447
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:52,570
for the purpose of fraudulently
cashing cheques in their names?
448
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:53,810
No, that's totally untrue.
449
00:26:53,850 --> 00:26:55,729
You deny that you were
an accomplished forger
450
00:26:55,769 --> 00:26:57,290
of both your mother...
451
00:26:57,330 --> 00:26:59,290
AUDIO BREAKS UP
'..and father's signature?'
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00:26:59,330 --> 00:27:01,969
I can't hear what you're saying.
Can't hear...
453
00:27:02,009 --> 00:27:04,130
..or refuse to hear, Adrian?
454
00:27:04,169 --> 00:27:06,689
Sorry, Mr Evans, we're having
a technical issue this end.
455
00:27:06,729 --> 00:27:09,729
Your voice keeps cutting out.
One minute, please.
456
00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,489
Carry on, Mr Evans.
It should be OK now.
457
00:27:19,209 --> 00:27:21,330
'I put it to you, Adrian,
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00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:24,689
'that for reasons known
only to yourself, you have long'
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00:27:24,729 --> 00:27:27,769
harboured a passionate vendetta
against your father.
460
00:27:27,810 --> 00:27:29,729
'That, because of this vendetta,'
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00:27:29,769 --> 00:27:31,769
in your dealings
with the police in both
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00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:34,209
the Huntsman
and the Ottawa investigations,
463
00:27:34,249 --> 00:27:37,009
you have done everything
in your power
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00:27:37,050 --> 00:27:39,689
'to assist them in
their singled-minded persecution'
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00:27:39,729 --> 00:27:41,169
of your father.
466
00:27:41,209 --> 00:27:43,850
Indeed, that you see your appearance
in court today as merely
467
00:27:43,890 --> 00:27:46,209
'another opportunity
to spread more lies.'
468
00:27:46,249 --> 00:27:48,530
Do you really think
I want to be here?
469
00:28:04,689 --> 00:28:06,890
Erin, Leanne,
thank you for coming.
470
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:11,249
These are our parents
and Erin's husband.
471
00:28:12,370 --> 00:28:15,290
Er, we'll show you to the room
you'll be giving your evidence from.
472
00:28:15,330 --> 00:28:19,530
We've decided
to give our evidence in court.
473
00:28:20,489 --> 00:28:21,530
Oh?
474
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:24,330
Karen died.
475
00:28:25,729 --> 00:28:27,009
What happened?
476
00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:28,650
Her health...
477
00:28:28,689 --> 00:28:31,689
finally gave out.
478
00:28:31,729 --> 00:28:34,169
We're doing this for her.
Yeah.
479
00:28:34,209 --> 00:28:36,130
And Stephen and David.
Yeah.
480
00:28:47,969 --> 00:28:49,489
WHISPERS: Are you OK?
481
00:28:49,530 --> 00:28:51,009
Tissues and water.
482
00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:13,249
We often played in the woods...
483
00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:14,729
by our estate.
484
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:18,249
There was a rope swing.
485
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:19,850
So, we were mucking about on that.
486
00:29:23,449 --> 00:29:24,969
About...
487
00:29:25,009 --> 00:29:28,009
eight o'clock it got dark,
so we headed home.
488
00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:30,929
We took the shortcut
across the farmer's field.
489
00:29:31,969 --> 00:29:35,929
We were about halfway along
when we heard a noise.
490
00:29:35,969 --> 00:29:37,769
SHE CLEARS HER THROAT
491
00:29:37,810 --> 00:29:39,929
We all turned round...
492
00:29:39,969 --> 00:29:43,570
and saw someone coming towards us,
shining a torch in our eyes.
493
00:29:45,449 --> 00:29:49,249
I thought it was a boy we knew,
so I shouted at him...
494
00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:54,530
.."Shine the light in our eyes,
why don't you, Martin?"
495
00:29:57,489 --> 00:30:00,610
But the person shouted back
in a man's voice...
496
00:30:01,929 --> 00:30:04,290
.."Do I look like Martin?"
497
00:30:06,650 --> 00:30:08,810
We all thought
it was the farmer then.
498
00:30:09,969 --> 00:30:11,090
But, erm...
499
00:30:11,130 --> 00:30:17,449
as he came closer, we could see he
had a mask on over his head with...
500
00:30:17,489 --> 00:30:20,290
holes for the mouth and eyes...
501
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:23,890
and er, he had a shotgun
pointing at us.
502
00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:31,610
Er, David started to apologise
to the man for us being on his land.
503
00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:34,090
The man told him to shut up
504
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:36,769
and er, he...
505
00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:38,969
hit him over the head
with the shotgun.
506
00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:41,409
And, erm...
507
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:47,530
..David started crying then.
508
00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:52,130
And then he told us to walk down
to the lower part of the field,
509
00:30:52,169 --> 00:30:54,689
which you can't see from the estate.
510
00:30:56,769 --> 00:30:57,810
He...
511
00:30:57,850 --> 00:30:59,969
made us say our names.
512
00:31:00,009 --> 00:31:02,009
His voice was angry.
513
00:31:02,050 --> 00:31:03,570
We were all really scared.
514
00:31:04,729 --> 00:31:07,130
And then he told us
to lie down on the ground...
515
00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:10,009
..and keep our faces in the grass.
516
00:31:11,769 --> 00:31:13,370
And then I felt him...
517
00:31:14,409 --> 00:31:17,169
pulling my hair at the back.
518
00:31:21,850 --> 00:31:23,370
He told me to stand up...
519
00:31:28,449 --> 00:31:29,890
..and to go with him.
520
00:31:32,729 --> 00:31:35,570
Mrs Davies, the ordeal
that you and your friends suffered
521
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:38,929
on the evening of 6th March 1996
522
00:31:38,969 --> 00:31:40,729
happened 15 years ago.
523
00:31:40,769 --> 00:31:42,449
You were a girl of 16.
524
00:31:42,489 --> 00:31:43,650
Yeah.
525
00:31:43,689 --> 00:31:46,370
You were terrified. It was dark.
526
00:31:46,409 --> 00:31:47,409
Given all that,
527
00:31:47,449 --> 00:31:49,610
how reliable
do you think your memory is
528
00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:51,050
of the events which took place?
529
00:31:52,769 --> 00:31:55,769
I remember every detail
like it was yesterday.
530
00:31:58,330 --> 00:32:00,570
You don't forget
something like that.
531
00:32:02,290 --> 00:32:03,530
You try to.
532
00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:06,650
But you can't.
533
00:32:06,689 --> 00:32:10,169
Did the man who attacked you
ever remove his mask?
534
00:32:11,449 --> 00:32:12,449
No.
535
00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:15,409
So, to be clear...
536
00:32:16,489 --> 00:32:21,209
..at no time did you, or any
of your friends, see his face?
537
00:32:26,009 --> 00:32:27,330
No.
538
00:32:46,569 --> 00:32:49,010
This man in the photograph
is the real John Cooper.
539
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:52,689
A loving husband who was married
to his wife for 42 years.
540
00:32:53,649 --> 00:32:56,410
We had a son
who was the apple of our eye.
541
00:32:58,209 --> 00:33:00,930
An apple that went bad
and broke his mother's heart.
542
00:33:02,169 --> 00:33:05,490
I believe that the heart attack
that killed my wife
543
00:33:05,530 --> 00:33:07,649
was brought on because of the...
544
00:33:07,689 --> 00:33:11,530
the stress,
the sadness and the shame
545
00:33:11,569 --> 00:33:14,289
because of all the time that I spent
in prison as an innocent man.
546
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:19,649
The police and Mr Elias
tell you I'm a liar.
547
00:33:19,689 --> 00:33:23,330
That I'm lying when I say
that most of my clothes,
548
00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:26,289
most significantly,
my khaki bathers, were second-hand.
549
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:27,530
Well...
550
00:33:27,569 --> 00:33:29,970
obviously, they don't know
what it's like to be poor.
551
00:33:30,010 --> 00:33:32,810
This suit that I'm wearing today,
it's second-hand.
552
00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:34,330
In my wardrobe at home,
553
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:37,450
I've got an overcoat second-hand
that I wore to my wife's funeral.
554
00:33:40,010 --> 00:33:43,410
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I spent ten years of my life
555
00:33:43,450 --> 00:33:45,729
in prison
for crimes that I did not commit.
556
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:48,010
Please... Please, do not allow
557
00:33:48,050 --> 00:33:52,370
the police to carry out another
miscarriage of justice against me.
558
00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:55,289
I am not a murderer.
559
00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:57,450
I am not a rapist.
560
00:33:57,490 --> 00:34:00,410
I am an innocent man
who's been wronged.
561
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:01,810
Thank you.
562
00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:05,490
Mr Elias...
563
00:34:05,530 --> 00:34:07,050
it's a quarter to four.
564
00:34:07,089 --> 00:34:10,010
This would probably be
a suitable time for me to rise.
565
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:12,289
Are you content to begin
your cross-examination
566
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:13,810
of Mr Cooper tomorrow?
567
00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:15,249
If My Lord would permit,
568
00:34:15,289 --> 00:34:17,689
I would like to have
a few minutes with Mr Cooper.
569
00:34:17,729 --> 00:34:20,890
Very well, Mr Elias.
Thank you, My Lord.
570
00:34:20,930 --> 00:34:22,930
All right, Mr Cooper...
571
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:25,249
I would like to ask you
a few questions about
572
00:34:25,289 --> 00:34:27,050
the balaclava which was discovered
573
00:34:27,089 --> 00:34:29,649
under the hedgerow near the scene
of the Sardis robbery.
574
00:34:29,689 --> 00:34:32,490
Ladies and gentlemen,
you will remember
575
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:37,370
that this is the balaclava which,
in the course of the Huntsman trial,
576
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:38,769
it was found that
577
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:42,530
there were a number of the
defendant's head hairs within it.
578
00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:47,970
Could you please give Mr Cooper
exhibit MTJ/14, please?
579
00:34:50,169 --> 00:34:52,289
It's all right, Mr Cooper.
580
00:34:52,330 --> 00:34:54,209
The item has been cleared
forensically.
581
00:34:54,249 --> 00:34:56,209
Touching it won't compromise you
in any way.
582
00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:03,410
Mr Cooper...
583
00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:05,010
is that your balaclava?
584
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:07,729
To the best of my knowledge.
585
00:35:07,769 --> 00:35:09,209
Yes or no, Mr Cooper?
586
00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:13,769
Yes. But I did not commit
the Sardis robbery.
587
00:35:13,810 --> 00:35:15,970
Like I said,
that was stolen off my boat
588
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:17,729
long before it was found
under the hedgerow.
589
00:35:17,769 --> 00:35:20,530
But you accept
that the balaclava is yours?
590
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:23,209
Yes.
591
00:35:23,249 --> 00:35:28,089
Mr Cooper, that isn't what you told
the jury during the Huntsman trial
592
00:35:28,129 --> 00:35:29,649
in 1998, is it?
593
00:35:30,689 --> 00:35:32,410
I know. I made a mistake.
594
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:37,609
During that trial, under oath, you
denied that the balaclava was yours.
595
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:42,169
So, my question to you, Mr Cooper,
596
00:35:42,209 --> 00:35:45,370
is were you lying to the jury
then...
597
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:48,010
or are you lying to the jury now?
I'm not a liar.
598
00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:51,530
I forgot. I made a mistake.
Let me rephrase the question.
599
00:35:51,569 --> 00:35:52,810
What was the truth?
600
00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:56,689
What you told the jury in 1998
or what you've told the jury today?
601
00:35:56,729 --> 00:35:59,089
No, I didn't deliberately...
602
00:35:59,129 --> 00:36:00,209
I misremembered.
603
00:36:00,249 --> 00:36:04,450
Misremembered in 1998
or misremembered today, Mr Cooper?
604
00:36:07,769 --> 00:36:09,530
Mr Cooper...
605
00:36:09,569 --> 00:36:11,089
the question is a simple one.
606
00:36:11,129 --> 00:36:12,330
Which was it?
607
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:16,890
What you said to the court in 1998
or what you have told us today?
608
00:36:22,970 --> 00:36:24,169
Today.
609
00:36:24,209 --> 00:36:28,129
So, you admit that in 1998
you lied to that jury?
610
00:36:28,169 --> 00:36:30,169
Yes, but...
Thank you, My Lord.
611
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:37,490
So...
612
00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:39,689
..members of the jury...
613
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:44,450
..it is now time for you to retire
to consider your verdicts.
614
00:36:45,850 --> 00:36:49,209
Remember, at all times,
you must keep in mind
615
00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:52,490
that it is for the Crown to prove
the guilt of John William Cooper...
616
00:36:53,569 --> 00:36:57,249
..not for the defence
to prove his innocence.
617
00:36:57,289 --> 00:37:02,010
If the Crown have failed to do that,
then you must find him...
618
00:37:02,050 --> 00:37:03,569
not guilty.
619
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:13,010
BELL TOLLS
620
00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:25,050
All right?
Yeah.
621
00:37:26,289 --> 00:37:27,609
What are those?
622
00:37:27,649 --> 00:37:29,810
That's my post-verdict statements
for the press.
623
00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:31,649
Guilty. Not guilty.
624
00:37:32,689 --> 00:37:36,249
Well, you can get rid of that one.
625
00:37:36,289 --> 00:37:38,450
That's my letter of resignation.
626
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:40,050
What?
627
00:37:40,089 --> 00:37:42,689
I'd have failed the victims
and their families.
628
00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:49,010
DOOR OPENS
629
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:52,850
DOOR CLOSES
630
00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:57,970
Verdict.
631
00:37:58,010 --> 00:37:59,209
WOMAN: All rise!
632
00:38:03,169 --> 00:38:05,450
STEVE: 'Whatever the judgment is...
633
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:07,490
we receive it with dignity.'
634
00:38:07,530 --> 00:38:12,370
Ella, Lynne, Glyn, Nigel, Rambo,
it's been an honour
635
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:14,129
and a privilege.
636
00:38:19,249 --> 00:38:21,450
Cheers, boss.
Cheers, boss.
637
00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:23,729
JUDGE: Let's have the jury in,
please.
638
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:45,689
WOMAN: Will the foreman
please stand?
639
00:38:48,249 --> 00:38:50,450
Will the defendant please stand?
640
00:38:53,129 --> 00:38:54,850
My Lord,
the jury has been in retirement
641
00:38:54,890 --> 00:38:57,330
for eight hours and ten minutes.
Thank you.
642
00:38:59,490 --> 00:39:03,450
Mr Foreman, please answer
my next question yes or no.
643
00:39:03,490 --> 00:39:06,769
'Have you reached a verdict
on which you are all agreed?'
644
00:39:06,810 --> 00:39:08,370
Yes.
645
00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:11,330
Is that in relation
to all 11 counts?
646
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:12,609
Yes.
647
00:39:13,649 --> 00:39:17,609
On count one of the indictment,
the murder of Helen Thomas,
648
00:39:17,649 --> 00:39:20,970
do you find the defendant,
John William Cooper,
649
00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:22,609
guilty or not guilty?
650
00:39:25,930 --> 00:39:28,330
Guilty.
Guilty.
651
00:39:30,169 --> 00:39:32,530
On count two of the indictment,
652
00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:35,729
the murder of Richard Thomas,
guilty or not guilty?
653
00:39:35,769 --> 00:39:37,930
Guilty.
Guilty.
654
00:39:39,850 --> 00:39:42,209
On count three of the indictment,
655
00:39:42,249 --> 00:39:46,490
the murder of Gwenda Dixon,
guilty or not guilty?
656
00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:48,410
Guilty.
657
00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,530
On count four of the indictment,
658
00:39:51,569 --> 00:39:54,370
the murder of Peter Dixon,
guilty or not guilty?
659
00:39:55,370 --> 00:39:56,370
Guilty.
660
00:39:57,530 --> 00:40:00,330
On count five of the indictment,
661
00:40:00,370 --> 00:40:02,209
the rape of Erin Davies,
662
00:40:02,249 --> 00:40:03,689
'nee James...
663
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:06,569
'..guilty or not guilty?'
664
00:40:09,689 --> 00:40:11,649
Guilty.
Rubbish!
665
00:40:11,689 --> 00:40:13,649
'That's rubbish!'
666
00:40:13,689 --> 00:40:15,810
I'm not a child rapist!
667
00:40:15,850 --> 00:40:17,370
This is not justice!
668
00:40:17,410 --> 00:40:21,729
On count six of the indictment, the
indecent assault of Leanne Dauncey,
669
00:40:21,769 --> 00:40:23,530
guilty or not guilty?
670
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:26,890
'Guilty.'
'This is rubbish!'
671
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:28,689
You've not heard all the evidence!
672
00:40:28,729 --> 00:40:31,169
This is a fit-up!
This is not justice!
673
00:40:31,209 --> 00:40:33,890
JUDGE: Mr Cooper, be quiet,
or I will have you removed.
674
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:35,930
MAN: We love you, John!
675
00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:40,169
On counts seven, eight, nine, ten
and 11,
676
00:40:40,209 --> 00:40:44,649
the offences of attempted robbery,
guilty or not guilty?
677
00:40:44,689 --> 00:40:46,010
Guilty.
678
00:40:48,209 --> 00:40:49,450
John William Cooper,
679
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:52,810
the jury have found you guilty
of all 11 counts on the indictment.
680
00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:54,249
Shut up, you stupid bastard!
681
00:40:54,289 --> 00:40:57,490
I hereby sentence you
to life imprisonment.
682
00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:59,930
The crimes for which
you have been convicted
683
00:40:59,970 --> 00:41:04,169
are of such evil wickedness,
the mandatory sentence of life...
684
00:41:04,209 --> 00:41:07,530
This is not justice!
..will mean just that.
685
00:41:07,569 --> 00:41:10,569
I'm an innocent man!
Take him down.
686
00:41:10,609 --> 00:41:12,530
This is not justice!
687
00:41:12,569 --> 00:41:14,089
This is persecution!
688
00:41:14,129 --> 00:41:18,569
Persecution of John Cooper,
carried out by Steve Wilkins!
689
00:41:18,609 --> 00:41:22,050
A man is gonna spend time in prison
for a crime he did not commit!
690
00:41:22,089 --> 00:41:24,530
I am not a rapist!
I am not a murderer!
691
00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:28,089
This is a fit-up!
692
00:41:28,129 --> 00:41:29,729
FADES INTO DISTANCE:
I am not a murderer!
693
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:38,850
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
694
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:41,890
Today's verdicts give the families
of Richard and Helen Thomas,
695
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:43,569
Peter and Gwenda Dixon,
696
00:41:43,609 --> 00:41:46,129
and the five victims
of the Nolton Hill attack
697
00:41:46,169 --> 00:41:48,729
and their families justice.
698
00:41:48,769 --> 00:41:51,490
But there is no sentence
the court could have imposed
699
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:52,649
on John William Cooper
700
00:41:52,689 --> 00:41:54,850
that could ever compensate them
for their loss.
701
00:41:56,129 --> 00:41:59,649
Today's verdicts
are a warning to all individuals
702
00:41:59,689 --> 00:42:01,850
who would commit
such terrible crimes.
703
00:42:01,890 --> 00:42:03,410
Whatever they touch...
704
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,649
..will bear witness against them.
705
00:42:06,689 --> 00:42:08,169
Evidence lasts.
706
00:42:08,209 --> 00:42:09,890
It does not forget.
707
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:11,490
And it cannot lie.
708
00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:17,729
And it will always be found
by those with the will to find it.
709
00:42:17,769 --> 00:42:19,450
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
710
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:21,209
Thank you.
711
00:42:25,169 --> 00:42:27,450
On behalf of Dyfed Powys Police,
712
00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:31,129
I would like to pay tribute
to the officers of Operation Ottawa
713
00:42:31,169 --> 00:42:34,729
for their diligence
and their professionalism.
714
00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:39,050
Are you ready for your exclusive,
Mr Hill?
715
00:42:39,970 --> 00:42:41,289
Thanks, Steve.
716
00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:44,729
Are we good?
Yeah.
717
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:51,490
Detective Superintendent, can I get
your reaction to today's sentencing?
718
00:42:56,089 --> 00:42:58,050
Yeah, really great. Really nice.
719
00:42:58,089 --> 00:43:00,010
Yeah?
Brilliant. Yeah, it's amazing.
720
00:43:00,050 --> 00:43:01,729
Great.
It's all here.
721
00:43:01,769 --> 00:43:02,890
He loves it?
Yeah.
722
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:05,089
Awesome.
It's all yours.
723
00:43:05,129 --> 00:43:06,930
Much appreciated.
Enjoy.
724
00:43:06,970 --> 00:43:08,450
I'll look after it, I promise.
725
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:11,010
Thanks.
726
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:35,410
Boss...
727
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:37,249
Visitor for you downstairs.
728
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:46,209
Hey, what's this?
729
00:43:46,249 --> 00:43:48,970
I thought you were in school?
Yeah, I got the afternoon off.
730
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:51,410
I thought I'd come and see
where it all happened.
731
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:54,050
Well, there's not much to see now.
732
00:43:56,289 --> 00:44:00,649
"There is no greater responsibility
or duty placed on a human being
733
00:44:00,689 --> 00:44:03,450
"than to investigate
the circumstances of the death
734
00:44:03,490 --> 00:44:04,890
"of another human being."
735
00:44:06,689 --> 00:44:08,209
Quite the job description, eh?
736
00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:27,249
I've decided
sixth form's not for me.
737
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:29,769
Are you OK with that?
738
00:44:31,249 --> 00:44:33,530
Does your mother know?
Yeah.
739
00:44:34,729 --> 00:44:35,850
She blames you.
740
00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:38,450
Of course she does.
741
00:44:43,089 --> 00:44:44,930
I'm thinking of joining the police.
742
00:44:47,490 --> 00:44:48,850
Seriously?
743
00:44:49,970 --> 00:44:51,530
What about the football?
744
00:44:51,569 --> 00:44:53,289
Ah, come on, Dad.
745
00:44:53,330 --> 00:44:56,050
I'm good, but I'm not that good.
746
00:44:56,089 --> 00:44:58,930
What makes you think
you'd be any better as a policeman?
747
00:44:58,970 --> 00:45:00,769
You made a success of it.
How hard can it be?
748
00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:02,769
Watch it!
749
00:45:02,810 --> 00:45:04,249
STEVE CHUCKLES
750
00:45:08,810 --> 00:45:11,209
WAVES BREAK
751
00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:46,810
I should've stayed.
752
00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:52,169
We should've talked.
753
00:45:56,649 --> 00:45:58,530
I'm sorry, Ma.
754
00:46:01,129 --> 00:46:04,890
# Huna blentyn
755
00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:08,769
# Ar fy mynwes
756
00:46:08,810 --> 00:46:12,810
# Clyd a chynnes
757
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:16,450
# Ydyw hon
758
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:20,649
# Breichiau mam sy'n
759
00:46:20,689 --> 00:46:24,450
# Dynn amdanat
760
00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:29,117
# Cariad mam sy dan fy mron. #
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