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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,913 --> 00:00:03,177 [low hum] 2 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:23,980 [sirens wailing] 3 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:29,377 [flames crackling] 4 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:42,607 LAURI LOVE: I'm Lauri Love. 5 00:00:42,738 --> 00:00:47,047 I'm a electrical engineerstudent and activist, 6 00:00:47,177 --> 00:00:51,399 internet busybody, [chuckles]believer in freedom 7 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:54,271 and autonomy andopportunity and franchise, 8 00:00:54,402 --> 00:00:57,753 and try to do the thingsthat I can do to help those. 9 00:00:57,883 --> 00:01:01,539 We're here at the site of theGrenfell Tower atrocity, where 10 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:04,020 people burned to their death. 11 00:01:04,151 --> 00:01:06,283 So there's a few hundred people here 12 00:01:06,414 --> 00:01:10,722 to have a silent walk to markthe fact that there's still 13 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:12,333 unfinished business here. 14 00:01:12,463 --> 00:01:14,030 And that happened in aself-organized, decentralized 15 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:15,292 way. 16 00:01:15,423 --> 00:01:16,554 And one of the benefits of the internet, 17 00:01:16,685 --> 00:01:17,947 as long as we maintain that freedom, 18 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:20,776 is that there's low barriers of entry 19 00:01:20,906 --> 00:01:23,344 to being involved in a protest action 20 00:01:23,474 --> 00:01:27,348 or in a community responseto address a problem. 21 00:01:27,478 --> 00:01:30,655 And we'll need that whenthe things that we rely on 22 00:01:30,786 --> 00:01:32,353 to address problems fall short. 23 00:01:32,483 --> 00:01:36,357 And increasingly,they're seeming to do so. 24 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:38,663 A lot of people usetechnology on a daily basis. 25 00:01:38,794 --> 00:01:41,362 They don't really understand it. 26 00:01:41,492 --> 00:01:44,016 They don't understand the waythat it can be used to control, 27 00:01:44,147 --> 00:01:47,498 or it can be used to liberate. 28 00:01:47,629 --> 00:01:49,892 When we use Twitter or when we use Facebook, 29 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:52,851 we're not really the users,we're not really the customers. 30 00:01:52,982 --> 00:01:54,897 We're the product. 31 00:01:55,027 --> 00:01:56,507 Every day that you're on that internet, 32 00:01:56,638 --> 00:01:59,162 on that social network,you're being strip mined. 33 00:01:59,293 --> 00:02:02,078 Your consumption habits, your choice 34 00:02:02,209 --> 00:02:05,212 of what entertainment to watch, tie 35 00:02:05,342 --> 00:02:08,128 down to a fixed identity that's correlated 36 00:02:08,258 --> 00:02:09,912 with your purchasing. 37 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:12,132 You are being monetized on a daily basis, 38 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:16,136 and there's no informed bargaining there 39 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,747 because people didn't understandthat this was potentially 40 00:02:18,877 --> 00:02:21,750 a system of control until it became one. 41 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,274 The internet is now a tool of the accumulation 42 00:02:24,405 --> 00:02:26,058 of central power. 43 00:02:26,189 --> 00:02:28,496 What that means is we're in a precarious position 44 00:02:28,626 --> 00:02:32,848 if we don't take back someof that freedom and autonomy. 45 00:02:32,978 --> 00:02:36,417 The blockchain enables differentkinds of pattern and structure 46 00:02:36,547 --> 00:02:38,245 to grow. 47 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:41,335 It enables you to collaborate,not just on the level of ideas, 48 00:02:41,465 --> 00:02:44,468 but on the level ofvalue and value creation. 49 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,993 Gives you an actual power toeffect change in the world. 50 00:02:48,124 --> 00:02:49,473 And it's going to scare the shit out 51 00:02:49,604 --> 00:02:51,388 of some very powerful people. 52 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:53,695 [atmospheric music] 53 00:02:55,784 --> 00:02:57,351 JAMIE DIMON: I've also told people 54 00:02:57,481 --> 00:02:59,657 that it can trade at $100,000before it trades to zero. 55 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:02,182 If you're stupid enough to buyit, you'll pay the price for it 56 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:03,357 one day. 57 00:03:03,487 --> 00:03:04,227 I don't personally understand it. 58 00:03:04,358 --> 00:03:05,924 Who cares about Bitcoin? 59 00:03:06,055 --> 00:03:07,796 NEWS ANCHOR: Bitcoin's rollercoaster ride has seemingly 60 00:03:07,926 --> 00:03:10,364 come from virtually nowhere andinto the public consciousness, 61 00:03:10,494 --> 00:03:11,452 of course, over the last couple years-- 62 00:03:11,582 --> 00:03:12,888 MAN: If you're a modern criminal, 63 00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:16,239 chances are you've used to buy guns, drugs, 64 00:03:16,370 --> 00:03:17,588 and even launder money. 65 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:19,242 MAN: So there is a use case for Bitcoin-- 66 00:03:19,373 --> 00:03:20,287 if you're a criminal. 67 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:22,593 [laughter] 68 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:23,986 Great, great product. 69 00:03:24,116 --> 00:03:25,161 I mean that. 70 00:03:25,292 --> 00:03:26,031 MAN: I don't know who started it. 71 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:27,207 Who's actually there? 72 00:03:27,337 --> 00:03:28,643 Is it ISIS? 73 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:30,166 MAN: Bitcoin is still in that sort of dark period 74 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:31,776 that most people don't understand it, 75 00:03:31,907 --> 00:03:33,300 but are willing to trade because they think-- 76 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:34,170 MAN: Make no mistake. 77 00:03:34,301 --> 00:03:35,476 This is the Wild West. 78 00:03:35,606 --> 00:03:37,042 There are now 1,300 cryptocurrencies-- 79 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:38,696 MAN: Don't want to see investors make 80 00:03:38,827 --> 00:03:40,481 the mistake of getting in here if they 81 00:03:40,611 --> 00:03:42,352 are getting into somethingthat's fraudulent. 82 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:43,875 MAN: --no consumer protection. 83 00:03:44,006 --> 00:03:45,399 MAN: --going up in thenext three to five years. 84 00:03:45,529 --> 00:03:46,313 MAN: Is it a risk? 85 00:03:46,443 --> 00:03:47,357 Absolutely. 86 00:03:47,488 --> 00:03:48,184 Why not make a buck? 87 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:49,316 [cash register ding] 88 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:50,273 MAN: --biggest-- 89 00:03:50,404 --> 00:03:51,318 MAN: Why not make a buck? 90 00:03:51,448 --> 00:03:52,449 MAN: I don't understand it. 91 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:53,885 MAN: Why not make a buck? 92 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:54,886 MAN: We don't know-- 93 00:03:55,017 --> 00:03:55,887 MAN: Why not make a buck? 94 00:03:56,018 --> 00:03:57,324 MAN: The charts are ugly. 95 00:03:57,454 --> 00:03:58,803 MAN: Why not make a-- why not make a-- why not 96 00:03:58,934 --> 00:04:00,414 make a-- why not make a buck? 97 00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:02,677 MAN: The underlying technology,it's called blockchain. 98 00:04:02,807 --> 00:04:04,461 MAN: --Bitcoin price might be in a bubble, 99 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:06,681 but I think the blockchaintechnology behind it 100 00:04:06,811 --> 00:04:07,943 is here to stay. 101 00:04:08,073 --> 00:04:09,205 MAN: The next generation of the internet. 102 00:04:17,169 --> 00:04:19,868 NARRATOR: The informationage is only in its infancy, 103 00:04:19,998 --> 00:04:21,739 and yet we have already seen a barrage 104 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:23,741 of disruptive technologies. 105 00:04:23,872 --> 00:04:27,528 Perhaps the most captivating andpolarizing of these innovations 106 00:04:27,658 --> 00:04:30,487 is cryptocurrency and blockchain. 107 00:04:30,618 --> 00:04:32,533 Do they represent a revolution that 108 00:04:32,663 --> 00:04:34,709 will drive the next phase of this era, 109 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,755 or are they a sham createdby overzealous hackers 110 00:04:37,886 --> 00:04:39,627 and fraudsters? 111 00:04:39,757 --> 00:04:41,716 To find the answer requires going 112 00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:44,327 back to the early days of the internet itself. 113 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:46,024 [projector whirring] 114 00:04:46,155 --> 00:04:48,897 JOHN GILMORE: Late 1970s, early 1980s. 115 00:04:49,027 --> 00:04:50,725 One of the beautiful things about internet 116 00:04:50,855 --> 00:04:55,469 back in those days, there was nocentral point of control in it. 117 00:04:55,599 --> 00:04:58,298 If you could talk anybody on the Net 118 00:04:58,428 --> 00:05:00,648 into being your neighbor on the Usenet, 119 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:03,520 then you could get copiesof any message they got. 120 00:05:03,651 --> 00:05:05,174 [phones dialing] 121 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,177 It was sort of like a forum,but distributed worldwide. 122 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,614 You could post messages in couple 123 00:05:10,745 --> 00:05:12,703 of hundred different topic areas, 124 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:15,880 and that message would go into your computer. 125 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:18,230 And then the next time it made a phone call out 126 00:05:18,361 --> 00:05:20,276 to one of its neighboring computers, 127 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:22,234 that message would get transferred. 128 00:05:22,365 --> 00:05:26,674 So it would spreadthroughout the whole network. 129 00:05:26,804 --> 00:05:29,154 LAURI LOVE: There was a very utopian ideal dream 130 00:05:29,285 --> 00:05:30,547 with the internet. 131 00:05:30,678 --> 00:05:33,028 It was a realized ideal of not being vested 132 00:05:33,158 --> 00:05:34,812 in centralized power or authority, 133 00:05:34,943 --> 00:05:38,555 but being a network that is opento all that anyone can access. 134 00:05:38,686 --> 00:05:40,296 The internet was democratized. 135 00:05:40,427 --> 00:05:42,864 NEWS REPORTER: A goal of theproject is to permit everyone-- 136 00:05:42,994 --> 00:05:44,996 young and old, rich and poor-- 137 00:05:45,127 --> 00:05:46,781 to be linked through computer networks. 138 00:05:46,911 --> 00:05:49,523 BILL TAI: There was a rapidadvance in the '80s and '90s. 139 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:51,133 Sort of, like, private internets. 140 00:05:51,263 --> 00:05:53,483 And then, boom, the wholepublic thing just exploded. 141 00:05:53,614 --> 00:05:55,093 LAURI LOVE: We saw the warning signs 142 00:05:55,224 --> 00:05:59,402 when the first centralizedservices were introduced. 143 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:02,579 The negotiation changed betweenthe user and the provider 144 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:04,320 of the service. 145 00:06:04,451 --> 00:06:07,758 Imagine if you bought a house,and the basement was locked, 146 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:10,021 and only the original buildingcontractor had the key. 147 00:06:10,152 --> 00:06:12,154 If you needed to make a change, repair anything, 148 00:06:12,284 --> 00:06:13,721 you had to go to him. 149 00:06:13,851 --> 00:06:15,853 You're at that person's mercy. 150 00:06:15,984 --> 00:06:18,508 NARRATOR: The internet becamean integral part of our lives, 151 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:20,423 upending many establishedforms of business 152 00:06:20,554 --> 00:06:22,860 and promising a connected,democratized world 153 00:06:22,991 --> 00:06:24,384 through social networks. 154 00:06:24,514 --> 00:06:26,995 Criticism began to grow as the internet became 155 00:06:27,125 --> 00:06:28,388 more centralized. 156 00:06:28,518 --> 00:06:30,302 While its worldwide user base expanded, 157 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:33,044 power was being concentratedin only a handful 158 00:06:33,175 --> 00:06:35,264 of giant services and platforms. 159 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,788 But in 2008, everything started to change. 160 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:39,181 GEORGE W. BUSH: We're in the midst 161 00:06:39,311 --> 00:06:41,357 of a serious financial crisis. 162 00:06:41,488 --> 00:06:45,753 I cannot underscore enoughhow serious an issue this is. 163 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:48,669 NARRATOR: Amid a world economyon the verge of collapse, 164 00:06:48,799 --> 00:06:51,889 a theoretical manifesto emergedby a pseudonymous creator named 165 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:54,196 Satoshi Nakamoto. 166 00:06:54,326 --> 00:06:55,806 While some have been falsely identified 167 00:06:55,937 --> 00:06:57,547 as Bitcoin's creator-- 168 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:00,681 I just believe that somebodyput that fictitious name 169 00:07:00,811 --> 00:07:02,204 in there. 170 00:07:02,334 --> 00:07:03,118 NARRATOR: --and othershave claimed to be Satoshi 171 00:07:03,248 --> 00:07:04,902 in the flesh-- 172 00:07:05,033 --> 00:07:08,950 So you're going to show methat Satoshi Nakamoto is you. 173 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,778 Yes. 174 00:07:10,908 --> 00:07:13,607 NARRATOR: --the true identityof Satoshi is still unconfirmed. 175 00:07:13,737 --> 00:07:16,479 MARK JEFFREY: We don't knowwho Satoshi Nakamoto really is. 176 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:19,090 Satoshi Nakamoto might be Satoshi Nakamoto. 177 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:20,222 It might be the NSA. 178 00:07:20,352 --> 00:07:21,702 It might be a company. 179 00:07:21,832 --> 00:07:23,704 It might be a smallwoman living in Arkansas. 180 00:07:23,834 --> 00:07:25,619 We literally have no idea. 181 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:27,359 NARRATOR: But one thing seems clear-- 182 00:07:27,490 --> 00:07:30,580 whoever created Bitcoin andits underlying technology 183 00:07:30,711 --> 00:07:33,191 had their sights set onupending centralized power 184 00:07:33,322 --> 00:07:36,978 on the internet and beyond. 185 00:07:37,108 --> 00:07:39,633 ALEX: How would you explainthe appearance of Bitcoin? 186 00:07:39,763 --> 00:07:41,156 Well, I think what's interesting 187 00:07:41,286 --> 00:07:43,332 there is suddenly thisthing came out of nowhere. 188 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:47,379 It actually made a lot of newtypes of transaction possible 189 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:49,469 that wouldn't have been possible before. 190 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:52,080 This website called Silk Road was starting 191 00:07:52,210 --> 00:07:54,082 to actually use cryptocurrency to do 192 00:07:54,212 --> 00:07:56,388 these illegal transactions. 193 00:07:56,519 --> 00:07:58,695 And it also brought Bitcoinonto everybody's radar. 194 00:07:58,826 --> 00:08:02,177 CHUCK SCHUMER: You want heroin,opium, cannabis, ecstasy, 195 00:08:02,307 --> 00:08:03,700 psychedelics, stimulants. 196 00:08:03,831 --> 00:08:05,441 You name it, they have it. 197 00:08:05,572 --> 00:08:06,573 MATTHEW GREEN: So people were panicked. 198 00:08:06,703 --> 00:08:07,922 A lot of people in law enforcement 199 00:08:08,052 --> 00:08:09,619 didn't really know what to do about this. 200 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:11,708 They thought that this wasgoing to completely undermine 201 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:14,276 all of our legal systems and our law enforcement. 202 00:08:14,406 --> 00:08:16,017 And to a certain extent, it did. 203 00:08:16,147 --> 00:08:18,454 Government needs to payattention to this technology. 204 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,500 This was made all the more clear last month, 205 00:08:20,630 --> 00:08:22,502 when federal law enforcementtook down and seized 206 00:08:22,632 --> 00:08:24,199 an online marketplace called the Silk 207 00:08:24,329 --> 00:08:27,245 Road, on which many illegalproducts and services were 208 00:08:27,376 --> 00:08:29,683 bought and sold via Bitcoin. 209 00:08:29,813 --> 00:08:31,902 LAURA SHIN: What'sinteresting is that Bitcoin, 210 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:35,384 it's proven that you can createa currency out of software, 211 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:38,256 and people will value it, and will use it. 212 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:41,738 NARRATOR: In April of 2013,Bitcoin's value swells. 213 00:08:41,869 --> 00:08:43,610 Many call it a Ponzi scheme and a bubble. 214 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:46,003 REPORTER: What do you thinkof the Bitcoin bubble stories? 215 00:08:46,134 --> 00:08:47,918 Cover of the Financial Times yesterday. 216 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:49,441 NICK COLAS: Yeah. 217 00:08:49,572 --> 00:08:51,182 You know, bubble's aneasy term to throw around. 218 00:08:51,313 --> 00:08:52,880 The question, really, you haveto ask about Bitcoin is, is it 219 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:55,447 going to move beyond justbeing this freak show reserve 220 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:57,493 currency story of the online world to being 221 00:08:57,624 --> 00:09:00,235 a real, viable, long-termtransactional currency? 222 00:09:00,365 --> 00:09:01,323 REPORTER: And you say yes. 223 00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:03,194 I say it's very possible. 224 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:05,588 [ominous music] 225 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,203 LAURI LOVE: What Satoshi didwas solve one of the biggest 226 00:09:12,334 --> 00:09:14,510 unsolved problems indistributed systems theory, 227 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:16,991 which is the Byzantine generals problem 228 00:09:17,121 --> 00:09:18,688 is that you have a system that's not 229 00:09:18,819 --> 00:09:20,298 being centrally orchestrated. 230 00:09:20,429 --> 00:09:23,127 [battle noises] 231 00:09:23,258 --> 00:09:26,827 How do you keep it in consensus? 232 00:09:26,957 --> 00:09:30,395 If you're going to useit for electronic assets, 233 00:09:30,526 --> 00:09:32,702 then the thing you want everyone to agree on 234 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:34,443 is that something's only been spent once. 235 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,097 That's been called the double spend problem. 236 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:38,316 And it had already been provedthat this problem cannot be 237 00:09:38,447 --> 00:09:39,579 solved. 238 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:40,841 MARK JEFFREY: Satoshi Nakamoto came up 239 00:09:40,971 --> 00:09:42,451 with a solution called the blockchain. 240 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,018 A lot of people are like, well, what's 241 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:46,150 the blockchain versus Bitcoin? 242 00:09:46,281 --> 00:09:48,326 The blockchain is the flux capacitor 243 00:09:48,457 --> 00:09:50,111 that makes Bitcoin possible. 244 00:09:50,241 --> 00:09:53,114 DOC BROWN: This is what makestime travel possible-- the flux 245 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:54,376 capacitor. 246 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:55,203 MARK JEFFREY: So each cryptocurrency 247 00:09:55,333 --> 00:09:56,596 has its own blockchain. 248 00:09:56,726 --> 00:09:58,946 And the blockchain is basically a record 249 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,252 of all the transactions. 250 00:10:01,383 --> 00:10:03,472 There's a lot of magic and crypto 251 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:06,693 mysticism around the blockchain,but really, the answer 252 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,652 is it's simply a record of all the transactions, 253 00:10:09,783 --> 00:10:11,436 and it's constructed in such a way 254 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:13,961 that cheating is not possible, and that there 255 00:10:14,091 --> 00:10:17,138 is no central server. 256 00:10:17,268 --> 00:10:20,141 [birds chirping] 257 00:10:23,318 --> 00:10:25,494 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: Myname is Spiros Michalakis. 258 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:29,063 I am a quantum physicisthere at the CalTech Institute 259 00:10:29,193 --> 00:10:31,456 for Quantum Information and Matter. 260 00:10:31,587 --> 00:10:33,067 The amazing thing about the blockchain 261 00:10:33,197 --> 00:10:36,418 is how it takes some localized information 262 00:10:36,548 --> 00:10:39,856 and decentralizes it in a global way 263 00:10:39,987 --> 00:10:41,379 throughout the whole system. 264 00:10:41,510 --> 00:10:43,817 And this is actually very similar to how 265 00:10:43,947 --> 00:10:46,080 we try to protect quantum information 266 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:49,953 from the environment bytaking the local information 267 00:10:50,084 --> 00:10:52,869 and encoding it in a veryglobal way, almost like-- 268 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,526 as we call-- in a fractal waythroughout all these tendrils 269 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:01,704 where you have an initialseed, and then it would spread. 270 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:04,620 And each part of this fractal is one 271 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:06,753 of the users of the blockchain making sure 272 00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:09,669 that the whole thing is consistent. 273 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:14,282 Each block contains some transaction data. 274 00:11:14,412 --> 00:11:17,502 Each block in the chain is verified 275 00:11:17,633 --> 00:11:20,288 and contains informationfrom the block before it. 276 00:11:20,418 --> 00:11:22,856 This transaction history has an integrity 277 00:11:22,986 --> 00:11:24,901 that comes from this idea. 278 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:28,209 And so if you want to mess with the chain, 279 00:11:28,339 --> 00:11:30,515 you cannot just mess with any one block. 280 00:11:30,646 --> 00:11:33,127 You have to mess with all of its history. 281 00:11:33,257 --> 00:11:34,955 [fast-paced electronic music] 282 00:11:35,085 --> 00:11:37,392 It's an amazing way of decentralizing 283 00:11:37,522 --> 00:11:38,915 this information. 284 00:11:39,046 --> 00:11:40,612 VINAY GUPTA: Decentralizedmeans the computers 285 00:11:40,743 --> 00:11:42,136 are all over the world. 286 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:44,355 If one of them blows up,another one takes its place, 287 00:11:44,486 --> 00:11:45,574 and you never really notice. 288 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:47,228 The network continues to function. 289 00:11:47,358 --> 00:11:49,752 And it's not owned or run bya single organization, kind 290 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:52,059 of like the internet itself. 291 00:11:52,189 --> 00:11:53,887 But blockchain isn't really a thing. 292 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:55,584 Blockchain is a process. 293 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,760 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: If youwanted to reverse this process, 294 00:11:57,891 --> 00:12:00,415 it would be the same as tryingto take every atom of smoke 295 00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:03,940 and try to reverse until itcame back to its original state 296 00:12:04,071 --> 00:12:05,202 and place. 297 00:12:05,333 --> 00:12:07,727 It's very difficult to do. 298 00:12:07,857 --> 00:12:09,598 Even with the advent of quantum computers, 299 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:11,556 we don't believe that we can reverse this. 300 00:12:11,687 --> 00:12:13,210 NEWS REPORTER: --losses on that, which 301 00:12:13,341 --> 00:12:16,997 is key for people who boughtBitcoin near the end of 2013 302 00:12:17,127 --> 00:12:21,566 as it ramped up to a peak of about $1,200. 303 00:12:21,697 --> 00:12:24,482 It's currently trading for less than $600, 304 00:12:24,613 --> 00:12:28,051 depending on where you look to try and do 305 00:12:28,182 --> 00:12:29,400 a Bitcoin transaction now. 306 00:12:29,531 --> 00:12:31,141 But-- 307 00:12:31,272 --> 00:12:32,795 NARRATOR: Regardless of thevolatility, Bitcoin's run-up 308 00:12:32,926 --> 00:12:35,102 in value catches theattention of technophiles 309 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:38,105 and crypto fanatics across the globe. 310 00:12:38,235 --> 00:12:39,933 Anyone can use their own equipment 311 00:12:40,063 --> 00:12:44,024 to produce cryptocurrency ina process known as mining. 312 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:46,243 It was the beginning of a digital gold rush. 313 00:12:46,374 --> 00:12:48,942 MAN: --recognizes all nine cards. 314 00:12:49,072 --> 00:12:50,813 While that's initializing--it takes a while-- 315 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:51,771 I'll take over the rig. 316 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:56,297 This is the rig here. 317 00:12:56,427 --> 00:13:02,520 This is 9 RX 580, 8 gigabyte models. 318 00:13:02,651 --> 00:13:04,914 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: Miningis using computational power 319 00:13:05,045 --> 00:13:07,787 to try to verify one of these transactions. 320 00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:11,051 MAN: My plan is-- becauseI have more over there. 321 00:13:11,181 --> 00:13:12,748 My plan is to actually-- 322 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:14,750 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: Getting alot of different individuals 323 00:13:14,881 --> 00:13:16,056 out there-- 324 00:13:16,186 --> 00:13:18,623 [MEN SPEAKING IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES] 325 00:13:18,754 --> 00:13:22,018 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: --andgiving them an incentive-- 326 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,933 for example, in the Bitcoin case, 327 00:13:24,064 --> 00:13:26,457 by giving them a part of a bitcoin. 328 00:13:26,588 --> 00:13:28,372 NARRATOR: It's a race to validate transactions 329 00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:29,896 on the blockchain and be rewarded 330 00:13:30,026 --> 00:13:31,811 with freshly-mined bitcoins. 331 00:13:31,941 --> 00:13:33,725 The more computational power you have, 332 00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:35,553 the better chance you have to succeed, 333 00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:38,078 which requires a lot ofmachines, and a lot of energy. 334 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:39,514 NEWS REPORTER: When we were there, 335 00:13:39,644 --> 00:13:41,516 he said his rigs were making $8 million 336 00:13:41,646 --> 00:13:43,083 worth of Bitcoin a month. 337 00:13:43,213 --> 00:13:44,301 I'm a smiling guy right now. 338 00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:45,694 It's crazy. 339 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:46,826 It's the largest mine in North America, 340 00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:48,262 and most of the rest of the world. 341 00:13:48,392 --> 00:13:51,352 NEWS REPORTER: Inside, it's incredibly loud. 342 00:13:51,482 --> 00:13:53,615 My God, how many machines are there? 343 00:13:53,745 --> 00:13:55,138 [speaking icelandic] 344 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:56,531 INTERPRETER: There areover 10,000 graphic cards 345 00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:58,141 on this side alone. 346 00:13:58,272 --> 00:13:59,969 More than the world's biggest supercomputer. 347 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:02,276 [whirring] 348 00:14:03,277 --> 00:14:05,148 [speaking mandarin] 349 00:14:11,285 --> 00:14:13,026 LAURI LOVE: Satoshi was genius enough 350 00:14:13,156 --> 00:14:15,593 to bend the rules of the framing of the question. 351 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,639 How do you actually make sure that this is 352 00:14:17,769 --> 00:14:19,206 the right transaction history? 353 00:14:19,336 --> 00:14:21,121 And it's introduced an economic incentive 354 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:25,212 to keep that consensus, whichunderpins the blockchain. 355 00:14:25,342 --> 00:14:27,127 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: The users of the blockchain 356 00:14:27,257 --> 00:14:28,868 maintain its integrity-- 357 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,347 MAN: I have more cards to come. 358 00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:32,088 SPIROS MICHALAKIS:--instead of having to have 359 00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:33,698 trust in one central authority. 360 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:36,179 MAN: I got it running at 30 megahash 361 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:38,486 across nine cards stable. 362 00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:40,880 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: And that iswhere the cryptographic idea 363 00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:43,795 comes into play. 364 00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:47,408 Cryptography has been somethingthat has been going on 365 00:14:47,538 --> 00:14:49,323 for a very long time. 366 00:14:49,453 --> 00:14:51,629 From the ancient Greeks, where they would just 367 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,936 shave somebody's head,they would write something 368 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:56,721 on the top of the head, let the hair grow, 369 00:14:56,852 --> 00:14:58,549 and then send them on their merry way. 370 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,291 And on the other side, thereceiver of the message 371 00:15:01,422 --> 00:15:03,946 would know to decrypt themessage by shaving their head. 372 00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:06,383 [dynamic music] 373 00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:09,604 JOHN GILMORE: Cryptographyis at the heart 374 00:15:09,734 --> 00:15:11,519 of a bunch of important things. 375 00:15:11,649 --> 00:15:13,738 It's at the heart of mathematics. 376 00:15:13,869 --> 00:15:16,219 Many important questions in mathematics 377 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:20,441 have related to issues thatcryptography brings up. 378 00:15:20,571 --> 00:15:21,877 Diplomacy. 379 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:25,011 How do you negotiate with your enemies? 380 00:15:25,141 --> 00:15:28,666 How do you exchange messageswith your ambassador who is 381 00:15:28,797 --> 00:15:31,017 sitting in a foreign country? 382 00:15:31,147 --> 00:15:33,758 It has a lot to do with the conduct of war. 383 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:36,500 The Allies had made some advances in cryptography 384 00:15:36,631 --> 00:15:37,980 during World War II that shortened 385 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:40,417 the war by multiple years. 386 00:15:40,548 --> 00:15:43,246 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: Nowwe've gotten better at this, 387 00:15:43,377 --> 00:15:46,728 but it's still what we call classical cryptography. 388 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:50,471 Everything that is encryptedis encrypted in that way. 389 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:53,343 In the blockchain, each one of the blocks 390 00:15:53,474 --> 00:15:56,738 is protected using classicalcryptographic protocols. 391 00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:02,396 MARK JEFFREY: With theinvention of the blockchain, 392 00:16:02,526 --> 00:16:04,398 your trust is now in math-- 393 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:08,141 the laws that underpin the universe. 394 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:11,492 Blockchain is basically a tool to rid 395 00:16:11,622 --> 00:16:15,191 the world of a lot ofcorruption and unfair advantage, 396 00:16:15,322 --> 00:16:17,759 and a lot of people arestarting to realize that that's 397 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:19,500 what this is, and they're starting 398 00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:20,718 to squawk about it right now. 399 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,593 JAMIE DIMON: I don't personally understand 400 00:16:25,723 --> 00:16:28,422 the value of somethingthat has no actual value. 401 00:16:28,552 --> 00:16:30,815 You're stupid enough to buyit, you'll pay the price for it 402 00:16:30,946 --> 00:16:32,339 one day. 403 00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:33,601 I've also told peoplethat it can trade $100,000 404 00:16:33,731 --> 00:16:35,646 before it trades to zero. 405 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:39,128 Tulips bulbs traded for $75,000once, something like that. 406 00:16:39,259 --> 00:16:42,740 In the 17th century, in Holland, tulips 407 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:45,047 became so popular an entire business 408 00:16:45,178 --> 00:16:46,135 could be bought with them. 409 00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:47,180 The entire country. 410 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:48,746 It was, of course, tulip mania. 411 00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,271 So what does Buffett not like right now? 412 00:16:51,401 --> 00:16:53,055 That would be Bitcoin. 413 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:55,840 He says that Bitcoin right nowlooks a little bit tulip-like 414 00:16:55,971 --> 00:16:57,190 to him. 415 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,973 I wouldn't be surprised if it's not around 416 00:16:58,104 --> 00:16:59,540 in 10 or 20 years. 417 00:16:59,670 --> 00:17:01,368 Everybody who's in it saysblockchain is so secure. 418 00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:04,501 They act as if, look, nothing'smore secure than this. 419 00:17:04,632 --> 00:17:07,417 It doesn't serve anysocially useful function. 420 00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,506 This market doesn'tproduce even more tulips. 421 00:17:09,637 --> 00:17:11,465 MAN: I haven't seen that chart since the tulip. 422 00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:15,599 We ought to just go backto what we always have had. 423 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:17,166 What happened to gold? 424 00:17:17,297 --> 00:17:19,516 I find generally thatpeople that say those things 425 00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:21,823 are people that don't reallyunderstand the technology. 426 00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,130 I just don't know how much homework they've done. 427 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:25,740 REPORTER: Can you givethem tenths and hundredths 428 00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:27,002 of a bitcoin? 429 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:27,655 JIM CRAMER: I think that they're-- 430 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:28,221 You can, right? 431 00:17:28,351 --> 00:17:29,352 Yeah. 432 00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:30,875 What about the mining of Bitcoin? 433 00:17:31,006 --> 00:17:32,703 They have the picks,and they have the shovels. 434 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:35,054 REPORTER: Well, they're sellingit to the blockchain as-- 435 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:36,751 the whole blockchain infrastructure. 436 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:38,274 REPORTER: It's ridiculous, is it not? 437 00:17:38,405 --> 00:17:38,970 REPORTER: It's absurd. 438 00:17:39,101 --> 00:17:40,668 REPORTER: Yeah. 439 00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:42,191 MELISSA LEE: You have JamieDimon speaking about Bitcoin 440 00:17:42,322 --> 00:17:44,280 just moments ago, makingsome very harsh comments. 441 00:17:44,411 --> 00:17:45,412 You see the reaction there. 442 00:17:45,542 --> 00:17:46,369 Down by 1.7%. 443 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,154 Here's what he said. 444 00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:49,416 REPORTER: --people like JamieDimon calling Bitcoin a fraud. 445 00:17:49,546 --> 00:17:51,418 MELISSA LEE: --worse than tulip bulbs. 446 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:55,291 He would fire any trader tradingBitcoin for being stupid. 447 00:17:55,422 --> 00:17:57,206 And Bitcoin won't end well. 448 00:17:57,337 --> 00:17:58,816 REPORTER: People like Jamie Dimon, 449 00:17:58,947 --> 00:18:00,818 who say that it's a bubble. 450 00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:04,213 He's starting to see peopletake money out of his bank 451 00:18:04,344 --> 00:18:05,910 and put it into Coinbase. 452 00:18:06,041 --> 00:18:07,651 Of course he's going to say that stuff. 453 00:18:07,782 --> 00:18:12,221 So you got to look at who's the messenger. 454 00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:14,267 SPIROS MICHALAKIS: These individuals probably 455 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:17,705 have other motives to wantthe blockchain to fail. 456 00:18:17,835 --> 00:18:20,490 It's the same thing, I guess,as having a car company that 457 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:25,016 has been using gas say that, ah, hybrids 458 00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:28,281 or totally electriccars, they're just a fad. 459 00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:30,109 LAURA SHIN: It is true that these technologies 460 00:18:30,239 --> 00:18:31,893 do represent a threat to them. 461 00:18:32,023 --> 00:18:35,549 If they have done the research,then they will pretty quickly 462 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,333 figure out that these are probably 463 00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:39,422 going to disrupt their business models. 464 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:41,468 NARRATOR: He deposits hispaychecks in the bank. 465 00:18:41,598 --> 00:18:44,297 It is added to the amountof his credit in the bank. 466 00:18:44,427 --> 00:18:46,473 BILL TAI: If you think aboutthe function of a bank, 467 00:18:46,603 --> 00:18:51,565 the bank is really just aledger of who owns what when. 468 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:54,220 It's essentially cloud storage of money. 469 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:55,743 That's what a bank is. 470 00:18:55,873 --> 00:18:57,440 You have to put your money somewhere, 471 00:18:57,571 --> 00:19:00,182 and then the bankhandles moving it around. 472 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,272 And it takes days to figure that out, in their case. 473 00:19:03,403 --> 00:19:05,318 And if you have another system-- 474 00:19:05,448 --> 00:19:07,494 --if you can automate all that-- 475 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:09,191 --decentralized-- 476 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:11,411 --so all the assets and allthe people around the assets 477 00:19:11,541 --> 00:19:14,109 already know who ownswhat when whenever it is-- 478 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,373 --store their money themselves and allows them to move 479 00:19:17,504 --> 00:19:18,461 their money instantly-- 480 00:19:18,592 --> 00:19:19,984 --all the time-- 481 00:19:20,115 --> 00:19:22,161 --in any amount anywherein the world as easily 482 00:19:22,291 --> 00:19:23,423 as transmitting an email-- 483 00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:25,555 [crescendo] 484 00:19:25,686 --> 00:19:28,819 --what is the purpose of a bank? 485 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:31,692 --why do you need JPMorgan? 486 00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:34,173 Why do you need Jamie Dimon? 487 00:19:34,303 --> 00:19:37,480 The need for them vanishes from the world. 488 00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:40,396 [birds chirping] 489 00:19:42,833 --> 00:19:44,095 NARRATOR: We're likely years away 490 00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:45,749 from blockchain-based technologies 491 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,666 replacing our current financialsystem, if they do at all. 492 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,755 But today, in nations like Kenya, 493 00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:54,454 cryptocurrencies areproviding financial freedom 494 00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:58,284 and empowering people to createincome in a struggling economy. 495 00:19:58,414 --> 00:20:00,547 MAN [ON RADIO]: --analystssay it will take a long time 496 00:20:00,677 --> 00:20:01,852 for the economy to recover. 497 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:08,511 EUGENE MUTAI: The first timeI heard of cryptocurrency, it 498 00:20:08,642 --> 00:20:09,773 didn't make sense to me at all. 499 00:20:12,994 --> 00:20:14,300 It didn't make sense to me, money, 500 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:16,302 like a form of digital money, and that's not 501 00:20:16,432 --> 00:20:17,825 controlled by the government. 502 00:20:17,955 --> 00:20:20,131 [girl babbling] 503 00:20:23,047 --> 00:20:26,834 But I started miningcryptocurrencies June, mid-June 504 00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:27,835 last year. 505 00:20:27,965 --> 00:20:30,098 [light atmospheric music] 506 00:20:31,142 --> 00:20:33,362 [whirring] 507 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:38,324 This cryptocurrency mining rigis just an ordinary computer 508 00:20:38,454 --> 00:20:40,674 with a lot of graphic cards. 509 00:20:40,804 --> 00:20:42,545 It's open air so that-- 510 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:45,374 because it's generating a lotof heat, so that it can be 511 00:20:45,505 --> 00:20:46,593 dispensed easily. 512 00:20:46,723 --> 00:20:49,987 And so just down here-- 513 00:20:50,118 --> 00:20:54,427 My mining income is actually really good. 514 00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:57,256 My current earnings per monthput me at a middle class level. 515 00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:02,739 There's a lot of cryptocurrencybeing moved around 516 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:04,872 by just Kenyans. 517 00:21:05,002 --> 00:21:06,265 There's some form of restrictions 518 00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:07,962 from the government, who still think it's 519 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:11,357 a Ponzi scheme or a bubble. 520 00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:14,751 But it will bank the unbanked. 521 00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:17,885 It enables the people who didn'thave this financial support 522 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:21,192 before can finally access it. 523 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:24,065 Especially in Africa, wherewe're sitting at more than 60% 524 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:25,022 of unemployment. 525 00:21:27,851 --> 00:21:29,549 I think cryptocurrencies are here to stay. 526 00:21:33,944 --> 00:21:36,338 Blockchain is one of the biggestbreakthrough technologies 527 00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:38,558 to ever exist to date. 528 00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:41,038 And now we completelystart thinking about money 529 00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:41,996 in a very different way. 530 00:21:47,262 --> 00:21:49,525 NARRATOR: As the popularityof Bitcoin grows, 531 00:21:49,656 --> 00:21:51,788 so does the number ofminers, and soon, there's 532 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:53,137 an explosion of cryptocurrencies. 533 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:54,878 REPORTER: So let me get this straight. 534 00:21:55,009 --> 00:21:58,926 You took Bitcoin and you justchanged the font to Comic Sans. 535 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:00,493 And we put a dog on it. 536 00:22:00,623 --> 00:22:02,495 NARRATOR: But Dogecoin was only the beginning. 537 00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:06,760 Everything from Jesus Coin,TrumpCoin, and UFO Coin. 538 00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:09,589 Of course, porn gets in thegame with Titcoin and even 539 00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:10,981 [bleep] Token. 540 00:22:11,112 --> 00:22:13,941 Most of these are scams or Bitcoin copycats, 541 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:16,117 raising the chorus of naysayers who dismiss 542 00:22:16,247 --> 00:22:17,901 the entire space as a joke. 543 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:18,859 Bitconnect! 544 00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:24,212 Woo! 545 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:25,779 NARRATOR: But to agrowing number of people, 546 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:27,868 blockchain is no joke. 547 00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:29,870 They believe thistechnology has the potential 548 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,961 to upend everything from WallStreet to Silicon Valley. 549 00:22:34,091 --> 00:22:36,137 [light electronic music] 550 00:22:37,573 --> 00:22:39,096 REPORTER: Tim Draper recently beat out 551 00:22:39,227 --> 00:22:42,752 44 other bidders at the USgovernment's Bitcoin auction 552 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,406 last week. 553 00:22:44,537 --> 00:22:47,366 Are you that much of a believerin the virtual currency? 554 00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:49,019 I am very excited about Bitcoin 555 00:22:49,150 --> 00:22:50,369 and what it can do for the world. 556 00:22:55,635 --> 00:23:00,030 We're here at Draper University Hero City. 557 00:23:00,161 --> 00:23:02,381 There's a university across the street, 558 00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:06,776 and an incubator andaccelerator here with a network 559 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:08,474 of venture capitalists. 560 00:23:08,604 --> 00:23:11,433 It's a whole ecosystem. 561 00:23:11,564 --> 00:23:14,871 But blockchain is very specialbecause it's a new thing. 562 00:23:15,002 --> 00:23:17,918 And it allows a whole new form of creativity 563 00:23:18,048 --> 00:23:20,137 that we can all benefit from. 564 00:23:20,268 --> 00:23:22,488 It's amazing what the blockchain will 565 00:23:22,618 --> 00:23:25,142 be able to do over the next 10, 15 years. 566 00:23:25,273 --> 00:23:27,928 Insurance, banking, real estate. 567 00:23:28,058 --> 00:23:30,800 Any of those industriesthat really hasn't caught up 568 00:23:30,931 --> 00:23:34,151 to the new way of operating, those are all fair game. 569 00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:35,762 Even venture capital. 570 00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:38,286 By having it being a perfect ledger, 571 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,375 it becomes the accountant. 572 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:42,159 It becomes the lawyer. 573 00:23:42,290 --> 00:23:44,945 It's like a bureaucrat that is incorruptible. 574 00:23:45,075 --> 00:23:46,686 BETTINA WARBURG: If you take nothing else 575 00:23:46,816 --> 00:23:50,211 away from this talk, I actuallywant you to remember that, 576 00:23:50,341 --> 00:23:53,910 while blockchain technologyis relatively new, 577 00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:57,914 it's also a continuation of a very human story. 578 00:23:58,045 --> 00:23:59,655 TIM DRAPER: We are going through one 579 00:23:59,786 --> 00:24:02,702 of the greatest transformationsin the history of the world. 580 00:24:02,832 --> 00:24:03,833 Hang on for the ride. 581 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:05,444 This is going to be awesome. 582 00:24:05,574 --> 00:24:07,228 This is bigger than the internet. 583 00:24:07,358 --> 00:24:09,273 In my mind, this isbigger than the internet. 584 00:24:09,404 --> 00:24:13,364 We are now entering afurther and radical evolution 585 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:15,889 of how we interact and trade. 586 00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,195 NARRATOR: It took time beforethe finance and technology 587 00:24:18,326 --> 00:24:21,242 sectors saw cryptocurrencyand blockchain as potentially 588 00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:24,419 disruptive, while the USgovernment felt threatened 589 00:24:24,550 --> 00:24:26,639 from the earliest days of Silk Road, 590 00:24:26,769 --> 00:24:28,902 and maintained an aggressivelydefensive position. 591 00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,034 [traffic noise] 592 00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:37,084 STEVEN MNUCHIN: We are veryfocused on cyber currencies. 593 00:24:37,214 --> 00:24:43,090 We want to make sure thatbad people cannot use these 594 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:45,440 currencies to do bad things. 595 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,877 [ominous music] 596 00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,401 MAN: If you canestablish another payment 597 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:55,972 system via cryptocurrencies,that gives us less control 598 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,844 over putting sanctions on their economy. 599 00:24:57,974 --> 00:25:00,194 No one can impose sanctions on Bitcoin. 600 00:25:00,324 --> 00:25:03,414 It allows North Korea a lot ofleeway to move money around, 601 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:06,374 to collect money, to storemoney to do the things 602 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,332 that Kim Jong-un wants to do. 603 00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:10,509 There's been talk about Iran doing this. 604 00:25:10,639 --> 00:25:12,728 Obviously, Russia might start getting involved. 605 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,428 VLADIMIR PUTIN: [speaking russian] 606 00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,890 MAN: It does complicate the narrative. 607 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:47,894 And this first step is somethingthat not only New York, 608 00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:49,548 but DC should be paying attention to. 609 00:26:01,255 --> 00:26:02,691 NARRATOR: In less stable nations, 610 00:26:02,822 --> 00:26:04,824 cryptocurrencies provide a more urgent use 611 00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:07,261 as a crisis currency thatcan help to circumvent 612 00:26:07,391 --> 00:26:09,132 broken financial policy. 613 00:26:09,263 --> 00:26:11,004 Venezuela is one such country. 614 00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:14,181 And now to the continuingpolitical and economic crisis 615 00:26:14,311 --> 00:26:15,574 in Venezuela. 616 00:26:15,704 --> 00:26:16,879 REPORTER: With inflation through the roof, 617 00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:19,665 with jobs, cash, food, and medicine scarce, 618 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:23,103 many Venezuelans have lostfaith in their politicians, 619 00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:26,367 and they're increasingly lookinginwards, organizing themselves 620 00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:29,109 in the hope of a better future. 621 00:26:29,239 --> 00:26:32,765 GABRIEL: We have a very activecommunity of Bitcoin here. 622 00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:35,332 It started around 2 and 1/2 years ago. 623 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:37,987 Many millions ofVenezuelans fled the country 624 00:26:38,118 --> 00:26:39,554 because of economic turmoil. 625 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:40,729 They were scared. 626 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:42,818 Because we have capital controls. 627 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:44,472 We have hyperinflation. 628 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,517 The prices keep going up and up and up. 629 00:26:46,648 --> 00:26:48,171 JORGE PEREZ VALERY: The IMF is predicting 630 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:52,045 that by the end of this year,Venezuela's inflation rate 631 00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:56,745 could get as high as 13,000%. 632 00:26:56,876 --> 00:26:58,617 LAURI LOVE: Bitcoin says,there's another way. 633 00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:00,662 There's another way. 634 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,882 It's not going to inflatebecause we can't inflate it. 635 00:27:03,012 --> 00:27:05,841 And that gives you some assurance. 636 00:27:05,972 --> 00:27:07,364 That gives you incredible freedom. 637 00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:09,279 MAN: [speaking spanish] 638 00:27:10,977 --> 00:27:12,500 NARRATOR: Most cryptocurrencies,including Bitcoin, 639 00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,851 are designed with a fixedsupply, and to be deflationary. 640 00:27:15,982 --> 00:27:18,637 But Venezuela's government istaking all possible measures 641 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,552 to prevent further subversionof their economic power 642 00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:23,598 by cracking down on miners and creating 643 00:27:23,729 --> 00:27:26,470 a cryptocurrency of theirown that they can control. 644 00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:27,907 REPORTER: The government has a plan 645 00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:30,649 to pull the country out of a deepening crisis, 646 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:32,781 and it involves cryptocurrency. 647 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:36,437 Venezuela launched a newoil-backed digital currency 648 00:27:36,567 --> 00:27:38,134 today. 649 00:27:38,265 --> 00:27:40,963 This Bitcoin-esque virtualcurrency is called the Petro. 650 00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:42,661 LAURI LOVE: Proving their fears of it 651 00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:44,706 being too radical and revolutionary, 652 00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:47,535 there's a attempt to put thegenie back in the bottle. 653 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:51,060 This is also a means toexercise control over it. 654 00:27:51,191 --> 00:27:54,324 GABRIEL: When I found out about cryptocurrencies, 655 00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:59,199 I could find my means to live here. 656 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:04,421 There are so many opportunitiesby doing cryptocurrency. 657 00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:06,380 NARRATOR: Whatever the fate of cryptocurrencies 658 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:09,600 and their ability to disruptpolitical and economic power, 659 00:28:09,731 --> 00:28:11,124 governments will likely fight back 660 00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:14,170 against any attempt toloosen their grip on control. 661 00:28:14,301 --> 00:28:15,737 Governments are threatened by this. 662 00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:17,521 They're concerned about criminal activity. 663 00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:19,306 Bad people. 664 00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:21,047 Things like kidnappings beingpaid with ransoms of Bitcoin. 665 00:28:21,177 --> 00:28:22,483 Bad things. 666 00:28:22,613 --> 00:28:24,528 And there is kind of a long-term threat that 667 00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:26,356 if something like Bitcoin can exist, 668 00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:29,272 even if they shut this one down,now that proof of concept's out 669 00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:31,666 there, maybe there could beanother one, and another one, 670 00:28:31,797 --> 00:28:34,582 and maybe you can't put this idea away. 671 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:38,107 Hackers, they basically hadthis kind of idealistic vision. 672 00:28:38,238 --> 00:28:39,979 NARRATOR: It's hard to pinpoint exactly where 673 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:42,285 and when the hacker movement got started. 674 00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:44,723 Early hackers believed thatinformation and tools should 675 00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:47,900 be free, and they openlyshared their work with others. 676 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:49,684 NARRATOR: The widespread proliferation 677 00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:53,166 of open source technologies likecryptocurrency and blockchain 678 00:28:53,296 --> 00:28:56,125 was exactly what hackers hadenvisioned from the beginning. 679 00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:57,910 Hacker movements like the cypherpunks 680 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,955 were driven by their love of technology 681 00:29:00,086 --> 00:29:02,305 and their strongly-held beliefs, from the right 682 00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:05,918 to privacy to the freedom of information. 683 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:08,747 JOHN GILMORE: We all thoughtthat learning and teaching 684 00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:11,140 about computer security was essential 685 00:29:11,271 --> 00:29:13,621 if we were going to have networked computers. 686 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,188 It was important for privacy. 687 00:29:15,318 --> 00:29:16,711 It was important for society. 688 00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:18,626 MATTHEW GREEN: They said,maybe I could actually 689 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:20,628 build this kind of ideal civilization 690 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,239 where cryptography andcomputers can actually make 691 00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:25,241 us more secure than we were. 692 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:26,808 This movement came a little bit out 693 00:29:26,939 --> 00:29:29,419 of the political and alittle bit out of the tech. 694 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,857 It was the people working illegally 695 00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:34,163 in the underground who'vemade most of the advances. 696 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:36,905 MAN: The liberal arts majorswhose only computer time 697 00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:39,690 available was if they gummedup the locks and snuck 698 00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:42,171 into the building late at nightbecause they weren't allowed 699 00:29:42,302 --> 00:29:43,956 to sign up for this stuff. 700 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:44,913 STEVE WOZNIAK: I was pretty muchlike the rest of the hackers. 701 00:29:45,044 --> 00:29:46,567 I felt that I was something. 702 00:29:46,697 --> 00:29:47,829 The rest of the world didn'tthink microcomputers were 703 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,265 going to amount to anything. 704 00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:50,701 I just thought I had a neat one for my house. 705 00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:52,138 I'm going to show others. 706 00:29:52,268 --> 00:29:53,922 I'm going to even help them build their own. 707 00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:56,316 JOHN GILMORE: What Satoshiwas trying to do was say, 708 00:29:56,446 --> 00:30:00,407 how can we make a currencythat won't be completely run 709 00:30:00,537 --> 00:30:01,974 by the government? 710 00:30:02,104 --> 00:30:04,628 And he tried to do itwith software, with code. 711 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,109 Released that software for free, and everybody 712 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,634 who makes bitcoins runs aversion of that software now. 713 00:30:10,765 --> 00:30:13,072 NARRATOR: Some argue that thecomputer revolution could not 714 00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:16,727 have happened without that hacker ethic. 715 00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:18,817 MATTHEW GREEN: But thegovernment, years ago, they 716 00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:21,689 decided that hackers were goingto break into every computer 717 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,212 and launch nuclear missiles. 718 00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:25,345 And so they passed this incredibly strong, 719 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:29,349 vague, poorly-defined law calledthe CFAA, the Computer Fraud 720 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:30,045 and Abuse Act. 721 00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:35,224 ALEX: Tell us about your case. 722 00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:37,792 LAURI LOVE: I'm a international fugitive, 723 00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:40,012 in the words of the Department of Justice, 724 00:30:40,142 --> 00:30:43,580 because I'm perceived as beingrepresentative of this attempt 725 00:30:43,711 --> 00:30:46,932 to undermine the authorityof the US government. 726 00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:49,064 REPORTER: Lauri Love, who has Asperger's, is 727 00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:52,328 accused of stealing huge amountsof data from US agencies, 728 00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:55,201 including the Federal Reserve,the Department of Defense, 729 00:30:55,331 --> 00:30:56,898 NASA, and the FBI. 730 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:59,074 American authorities want the 31-year-old 731 00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:02,686 to stand trial in the Statesover charges of cyber hacking. 732 00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:07,039 His lawyers say it could resultin a sentence of up to 99 years 733 00:31:07,169 --> 00:31:08,867 in jail if convicted. 734 00:31:08,997 --> 00:31:12,871 TOR EKELAND: The ComputerFraud Abuse Act, aka the CFAA, 735 00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:16,918 has been called the worst law in technology. 736 00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:19,529 And the courts are all over the place. 737 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:23,055 And it allows private partiesto essentially say, listen, 738 00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:24,665 you violated our terms of service, 739 00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:26,928 you've signed on to Facebook,you lied about your age, 740 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:28,451 bang, you've just committed a felony. 741 00:31:28,582 --> 00:31:30,018 [ominous music] 742 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:32,586 Aaron Swartz gotprosecuted under the CFAA 743 00:31:32,716 --> 00:31:35,632 for downloading a bunch of academic articles 744 00:31:35,763 --> 00:31:38,244 out of basically a closet at MIT. 745 00:31:38,374 --> 00:31:39,680 They went after him real hard. 746 00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:41,377 REPORTER: The charges could have landed him 747 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:43,684 in prison for up to 35 years, along 748 00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:45,251 with a million-dollar fine. 749 00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:48,167 But with prosecutorspressing serious charges, 750 00:31:48,297 --> 00:31:51,344 Swartz hanged himself Fridayat his Brooklyn apartment. 751 00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,043 MATTHEW GREEN: The problem with these laws 752 00:31:55,174 --> 00:31:57,741 is there's a lot ofprosecutorial discretion. 753 00:31:57,872 --> 00:32:00,657 And so if the government wantsto go after somebody like Aaron 754 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,703 Swartz, they can do that. 755 00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:04,879 And sometimes, you see people being extradited, 756 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,794 put in prison potentiallyfor years and years 757 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,536 for doing something that, if ithappened in the physical world, 758 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:11,364 we'd probably call kind of a minor prank. 759 00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:13,235 TOR EKELAND: Lauri's a very interesting case, 760 00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:14,845 because what he's alleged to have done 761 00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:16,760 there is participate in an operation called 762 00:32:16,891 --> 00:32:18,501 Op Last Resort. 763 00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:21,026 So Anonymous hacked the UnitedStates sentencing guidelines 764 00:32:21,156 --> 00:32:24,029 website and replaced thefront page of that website 765 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:26,553 with a game of Asteroids. 766 00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:30,209 They didn't do any real harm. 767 00:32:30,339 --> 00:32:32,167 What this was is this was a protest 768 00:32:32,298 --> 00:32:35,823 of what happened to Aaron,and the abuses of the DOJ 769 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,217 in prosecuting computer crimes. 770 00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:41,089 NAOMI COLVIN: When Aaron Swartztragically took his life, 771 00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:44,223 there was a widespread sensethat US judicial system wasn't 772 00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:47,139 working very well for peoplewho are involved in information 773 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:49,315 activism, or people whoare active on the internet. 774 00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:52,318 NARRATOR: The internet saw therise of decentralized protest 775 00:32:52,448 --> 00:32:55,060 movements, from Occupy and Anonymous in the US 776 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:56,975 to the Arab Spring in the Middle East, 777 00:32:57,105 --> 00:32:58,933 where the internet was literally turned off 778 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:00,891 to squash the revolts. 779 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,068 As the internet became more centralized, 780 00:33:03,198 --> 00:33:06,071 it became easier to disruptthese forms of protest. 781 00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:07,724 But blockchain-based technologies 782 00:33:07,855 --> 00:33:10,901 represent a new potentialfor decentralized protest 783 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:12,686 and the freedom of information. 784 00:33:12,816 --> 00:33:14,862 AARON SWARTZ: There's a battlegoing on right now-- a battle 785 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,255 to define everything that happens 786 00:33:16,385 --> 00:33:18,735 on the internet in terms of traditional things 787 00:33:18,866 --> 00:33:20,389 that the law understands. 788 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,783 There are a lot of people,a lot of powerful people 789 00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:26,395 who want to clamp down on the internet. 790 00:33:26,526 --> 00:33:28,876 We can't let that happen. 791 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:31,618 It's a sort ofdisgusting and sick irony 792 00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:35,056 that for allegedly being part of a protest 793 00:33:35,187 --> 00:33:38,538 on those kind of issues, Lauri'snow facing exactly the same. 794 00:33:38,668 --> 00:33:40,844 MATTHEW GREEN: Some peoplewho are security researchers 795 00:33:40,975 --> 00:33:42,585 and ethical hackers, they say, well, I 796 00:33:42,716 --> 00:33:44,500 want to poke at somethingbecause I'm curious. 797 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:46,937 And then, of course, there'sthe US government side, which 798 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:49,549 is a combination of, well,you could have done damage, 799 00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:53,683 and, we're really embarrassedthat this was able to happen. 800 00:33:53,814 --> 00:33:57,426 And sometimes, you see a huge overreaction. 801 00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,472 TOR EKELAND: The Department of Justice 802 00:33:59,602 --> 00:34:04,216 launched a bullshit prosecutionover some young kid, 803 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:06,566 and the full weight of the federal government 804 00:34:06,696 --> 00:34:08,089 was brought against him. 805 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:09,960 And he killed himself because of it. 806 00:34:10,091 --> 00:34:12,354 That's what should be punished. 807 00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,661 But instead, we've got them trying 808 00:34:14,791 --> 00:34:18,056 to throw somebody in jail for100 years who protested that. 809 00:34:18,186 --> 00:34:19,579 --thank for coming on the program. 810 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:21,320 Thanks for having me. 811 00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,409 How do you respond, in broadterms, to these accusations? 812 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:25,759 Well, what I'm hoping is ifthe extradition is refused, 813 00:34:25,889 --> 00:34:27,282 I'll have the opportunity to respond 814 00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:29,284 in court, which is theway these things are done. 815 00:34:29,415 --> 00:34:30,981 The problem for me is there's been 816 00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:32,679 no evidence provided over the three years 817 00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,464 that I face these allegations. 818 00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:36,987 INTERVIEWER: Are you a hacker? 819 00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:38,598 LAURI LOVE: Yeah, Idescribe myself as a hacker. 820 00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,600 A hacker someone who usestechnology, takes it apart, 821 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:43,081 and he puts it together in interesting ways. 822 00:34:43,211 --> 00:34:44,908 And I also work promotingnew technologies, 823 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,520 such as blockchain technologiesthat could create a better 824 00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:48,695 financial system. 825 00:34:48,825 --> 00:34:50,044 TOR EKELAND: I think you're going 826 00:34:50,175 --> 00:34:53,961 to see government always trying to control 827 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,442 any kind of technology that allows 828 00:34:56,572 --> 00:35:03,013 for decentralization, becausethat's a threat to their power. 829 00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:05,494 REPORTER: A judge ruled todaythat he can be extradited 830 00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:07,322 to America to stand trial. 831 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:10,891 Lauri Love, who's 31 and suffersfrom Asperger's syndrome, now-- 832 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:13,154 LAWYER: --Lauri's caseto the secretary of state 833 00:35:13,285 --> 00:35:16,070 for an order for extradition. 834 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,116 We're extremely disappointed by that decision. 835 00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:20,901 In fact, most of the written judgment 836 00:35:21,031 --> 00:35:23,556 is all about the defense case,because the prosecution didn't 837 00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:25,079 actually call any evidence. 838 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,951 It is my belief that it is not fair 839 00:35:28,082 --> 00:35:31,346 or just that our boy, who'sgot mental health issues, 840 00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:34,088 can be taken away from hisfamily or his support network. 841 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,872 Although he's lost today, this isn't 842 00:35:36,003 --> 00:35:38,614 the end of the legal road for Lauri Love. 843 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:41,530 He still has the right togo to the court of appeal 844 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:45,273 to seek to have this decision overturned. 845 00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:47,101 NARRATOR: While Lauri awaited a decision, 846 00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:49,538 blockchain technology was developing fast, 847 00:35:49,669 --> 00:35:52,237 and a new crypto assetexploded onto the scene-- 848 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:53,586 Ethereum. 849 00:35:53,716 --> 00:35:56,371 You are a platform that would be best-- 850 00:35:56,502 --> 00:35:57,981 Like a decentralized worldwide web. 851 00:35:58,112 --> 00:35:58,939 REPORTER: Is there any-- 852 00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:00,288 OK, sorry. 853 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:02,029 My brain is smoking right now. 854 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,510 Give us a real-worldexplanation for what that means. 855 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,563 JOSEPH LUBIN: Bitcoin was a great application, 856 00:36:14,694 --> 00:36:17,087 and we were all very excited about that. 857 00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:21,222 We saw how powerful that first use case-- money-- 858 00:36:21,353 --> 00:36:23,006 could be. 859 00:36:23,137 --> 00:36:25,705 Basically of the people, by thepeople, for the people money. 860 00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:27,968 But the Bitcoin blockchainwas really just designed 861 00:36:28,098 --> 00:36:29,404 for that one use case. 862 00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:31,798 The entire Bitcoinnetwork is in the service 863 00:36:31,928 --> 00:36:33,234 of this one application. 864 00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:35,671 So Vitalik Buterin wrote some white papers, 865 00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:39,762 and his key insight was,instead of putting a new pocket 866 00:36:39,893 --> 00:36:43,549 calculator button at everynode of a peer-to-peer network, 867 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,943 why not put a full computer there? 868 00:36:47,074 --> 00:36:49,816 And thus, Ethereum was born. 869 00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:51,731 Ethereum basically asked a simple question, 870 00:36:51,861 --> 00:36:55,256 which is, why can't we putprograms into the blockchain? 871 00:36:55,387 --> 00:36:56,736 The blockchain can store data. 872 00:36:56,866 --> 00:36:57,998 It can store transactions. 873 00:36:58,128 --> 00:36:59,347 Why shouldn't it store programs? 874 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,219 And if we put a program into the blockchain, 875 00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:03,264 why shouldn't it run atthe same level of security 876 00:37:03,395 --> 00:37:05,005 as a bitcoin transaction? 877 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:07,442 LAURA SHIN: Ethereum is whatthey call a smart contracts 878 00:37:07,573 --> 00:37:13,318 platform, which enables you tocreate more programmable money. 879 00:37:13,448 --> 00:37:16,059 Smart contracts can disruptreal estate transactions, 880 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:18,888 the legal industry, things in insurance. 881 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:20,847 It's just much more complex processes 882 00:37:20,977 --> 00:37:22,979 that you can run on Ethereum over Bitcoin. 883 00:37:23,110 --> 00:37:25,808 Essentially, the technologyis a trust machine. 884 00:37:25,939 --> 00:37:28,158 Everybody using it can trust it. 885 00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:30,073 And so you can start building systems 886 00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,902 that are different from the old systems. 887 00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:34,991 BILL TAI: Civilization as we know it today is 888 00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:38,299 a blip on a very long timeline. 889 00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:41,824 Technology is a series of waves that 890 00:37:41,955 --> 00:37:45,741 builds one upon the other withaccelerating speed and size 891 00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:47,221 and depth. 892 00:37:47,352 --> 00:37:49,179 You used to make computersout of things that 893 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:51,051 look like little light bulbs. 894 00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:54,402 And that wave was totally changed 895 00:37:54,533 --> 00:37:57,275 when it became littlegranular pieces that were 896 00:37:57,405 --> 00:37:59,015 stuck on a piece of silicon. 897 00:37:59,146 --> 00:38:01,409 That created the computer wave. 898 00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:03,629 And then we had the phone system, 899 00:38:03,759 --> 00:38:06,109 a very long physical wire. 900 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,547 When people figured out thatyou'd take the conversation 901 00:38:08,677 --> 00:38:11,506 and chop it up into littlebits, deconstruct it 902 00:38:11,637 --> 00:38:13,987 to its basic element, andthen flow those things 903 00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:17,425 over the lines and reconstruct them, 904 00:38:17,556 --> 00:38:20,036 they basically created thefoundation for the rule set 905 00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:21,342 that became the internet. 906 00:38:21,473 --> 00:38:24,432 So you could do everything. 907 00:38:24,563 --> 00:38:27,740 Blockchain is the third wave of our lifetime 908 00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:32,658 that is a totalreconstruction of behavior. 909 00:38:32,788 --> 00:38:38,011 Identity, assets, governance. 910 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:39,099 Those are going to change. 911 00:38:41,797 --> 00:38:43,233 NARRATOR: Blockchain's true believers 912 00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:46,367 envision an entirely newepoch in human civilization. 913 00:38:46,498 --> 00:38:49,370 Critics see deluded evangelismin the latest passing techno 914 00:38:49,501 --> 00:38:51,459 fad, while some are just hoping to strike 915 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:53,722 it rich in the frenzy of crypto mania. 916 00:38:53,853 --> 00:38:56,072 But whatever one thinks of this technology, 917 00:38:56,203 --> 00:38:57,987 brilliant minds are hard at work, 918 00:38:58,118 --> 00:39:00,381 inspired by blockchain's possibilities 919 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:02,252 and how it can be used to address the world's 920 00:39:02,383 --> 00:39:04,559 most pressing problems. 921 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:07,736 BILL TAI: If you think ofthe power systems today, 922 00:39:07,867 --> 00:39:10,043 think about what happenedwith Hurricane Irma blowing 923 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:10,957 through the Caribbean. 924 00:39:11,087 --> 00:39:13,176 [wind howling] 925 00:39:15,004 --> 00:39:18,138 Now you've got the nationstate of Puerto Rico, millions 926 00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:21,663 of people that don't havepower for four to six months. 927 00:39:21,794 --> 00:39:24,492 NARRATOR: The situation inPuerto Rico isn't unique. 928 00:39:24,623 --> 00:39:26,364 The majority of the world's power grids 929 00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:29,323 are centralized, and remainvulnerable to everything 930 00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:32,805 from bad weather to cyber attacks. 931 00:39:32,935 --> 00:39:34,720 DR. PETER LILIENTHAL: We're in this transition 932 00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:37,853 from the old world of centralized power 933 00:39:37,984 --> 00:39:41,683 based on fossil fuels with high emissions 934 00:39:41,814 --> 00:39:45,165 to a future world of clean distributed power. 935 00:39:45,295 --> 00:39:47,385 And the question is, how do we get there? 936 00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:48,908 A microgrid. 937 00:39:49,038 --> 00:39:50,910 And my definition ofmicrogrid is really simple. 938 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,738 It's any system that can stand on its own. 939 00:39:57,699 --> 00:40:02,138 NARENDRA MODI: As the developingworld leaps billions of people 940 00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:05,838 into prosperity, the world must turn to sun 941 00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:06,839 to power the future. 942 00:40:11,017 --> 00:40:12,845 SCOTT KESSLER: There's a really large interest 943 00:40:12,975 --> 00:40:16,588 in microgrids as a way toelectrify the developing world. 944 00:40:16,718 --> 00:40:18,720 So rather than install what would 945 00:40:18,851 --> 00:40:22,507 be the traditional largeinfrastructure that connects 946 00:40:22,637 --> 00:40:24,944 everyone, like the waythe US and other countries 947 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:28,121 electrified, you can start justby electrifying certain areas 948 00:40:28,251 --> 00:40:29,514 in isolation. 949 00:40:29,644 --> 00:40:32,125 These are sort of little grids, microgrids. 950 00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:34,736 And what you need there issome element of control. 951 00:40:34,867 --> 00:40:36,346 There has to be something there that's 952 00:40:36,477 --> 00:40:38,610 balancing the amount of energy you have 953 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:41,526 and the amount of energy thatpeople are trying to consume. 954 00:40:41,656 --> 00:40:45,007 What we can do is take control algorithms 955 00:40:45,138 --> 00:40:47,662 and push them out into the blockchain. 956 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:49,534 Basically it becomes plug-and-play, 957 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,971 and as someone wants to jointhe microgrid, all they need 958 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:54,495 is one of these little hardwarenodes, and they're good to go. 959 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,939 Our first project's calledthe Brooklyn Microgrid. 960 00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:06,855 It was an attempt to take what was 961 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:09,379 until then theory, somethingwe'd put in white papers 962 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:11,991 and PowerPoints, andactually have a real project 963 00:41:12,121 --> 00:41:12,818 we can point towards. 964 00:41:15,298 --> 00:41:16,735 SASHA SANTIAGO: The Brooklyn Microgrid 965 00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:19,172 is in the middle of Gowanus and Park Slope. 966 00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:22,480 This is perfect for a community solar setting, 967 00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:24,177 so people on both sides of the pond 968 00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:26,962 can participate in apeer-to-peer market here. 969 00:41:27,093 --> 00:41:29,095 REPORTER: The Brooklyn Microgrid project, 970 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:32,185 a small power grid made up ofhouses on President Street. 971 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,579 It's using blockchain,the underlying technology 972 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:37,756 of cryptocurrency like Bitcoin,to decentralize and share 973 00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:38,931 electricity. 974 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:40,323 SASHA SANTIAGO: So right now, we're 975 00:41:40,454 --> 00:41:42,674 testing our hardware in about 60 houses. 976 00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:45,851 So these are basically the small meter box. 977 00:41:45,981 --> 00:41:48,070 Our technology is using blockchain 978 00:41:48,201 --> 00:41:51,160 to count the electrons that isbeing put back onto the grid. 979 00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:53,989 And we collectively pooleveryone's green energy source, 980 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,382 and we put it on a ledger, and let 981 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:57,166 everyone know in the communities, 982 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,386 guess what, this is the amountof energy that's been produced 983 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,127 in your neighborhood. 984 00:42:01,257 --> 00:42:03,825 And if you want to buy energythat's local, that's green, 985 00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:06,915 why not buy it from your neighbors? 986 00:42:07,046 --> 00:42:10,571 BILL TAI: Blockchain allowsthe economic incentive 987 00:42:10,702 --> 00:42:13,748 for every person that's got space on the roof 988 00:42:13,879 --> 00:42:15,663 to stick a little solar generator on there, 989 00:42:15,794 --> 00:42:18,448 or something else, and interconnect, and be 990 00:42:18,579 --> 00:42:21,756 a supplier in a marketplace. 991 00:42:21,887 --> 00:42:25,717 A peer-to-peer energy gridwhere all of the elements 992 00:42:25,847 --> 00:42:28,110 were interconnected, and you'd have resiliency. 993 00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:30,591 And the next hurricane thatblows through, part of the grid 994 00:42:30,722 --> 00:42:33,202 might be gone, but you'd still be up and running. 995 00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:35,727 NICK BEGLINGER: Even though I'ma climate guy for the last 10 996 00:42:35,857 --> 00:42:37,990 years, I kept on reading about blockchain. 997 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,820 And we have quickly found thatit's not one particular area 998 00:42:41,950 --> 00:42:45,824 that blockchain could reallyhelp implementing the Paris 999 00:42:45,954 --> 00:42:47,565 Agreement. 1000 00:42:47,695 --> 00:42:49,958 But really, that there's a wholeplethora of different topics 1001 00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:53,440 one can and should go into. 1002 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:54,876 SCOTT KESSLER: Blockchain is really 1003 00:42:55,007 --> 00:42:57,400 the perfect tool for the distributed energy 1004 00:42:57,531 --> 00:42:58,576 future we're moving towards. 1005 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:03,581 MATTHEW GREEN: But there is a huge problem. 1006 00:43:03,711 --> 00:43:06,758 Bitcoin is using morepower than 158 countries, 1007 00:43:06,888 --> 00:43:09,543 which is not a good thing forcurrency network to be doing. 1008 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:12,111 But it doesn't mean that thisis the future of cryptocurrency. 1009 00:43:12,241 --> 00:43:14,679 So I think the way weshould look at those things 1010 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:18,465 is, when you give engineersa simple problem to solve, 1011 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:22,251 or a straightforward problemto solve, they will solve it. 1012 00:43:22,382 --> 00:43:24,297 SCOTT KESSLER: That is Dare Henry, 1013 00:43:24,427 --> 00:43:29,084 and it's meant as a form ofcombining heat and computation. 1014 00:43:29,215 --> 00:43:32,522 So when you're running processes on a computer, 1015 00:43:32,653 --> 00:43:34,524 usually, we try to remove that heat, 1016 00:43:34,655 --> 00:43:36,962 whether it's through a fanor with some centralized air 1017 00:43:37,092 --> 00:43:38,093 conditioners. 1018 00:43:38,224 --> 00:43:39,747 Heat's usually a bad thing. 1019 00:43:39,878 --> 00:43:41,401 But if you flip that on its head, 1020 00:43:41,531 --> 00:43:44,099 and you try to run thecomputer as hot as possible, 1021 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:45,971 and then you take that heat and use it 1022 00:43:46,101 --> 00:43:48,190 towards space heating and water heating, 1023 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:50,149 we can actually increase the productivity 1024 00:43:50,279 --> 00:43:51,716 of our computation. 1025 00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:53,848 I'm a firm believer thatthe efficiency of the system 1026 00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:55,110 is only going to get better. 1027 00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:57,112 Right now, it's horribly inefficient. 1028 00:43:57,243 --> 00:43:59,332 I think the amount of energy being consumed 1029 00:43:59,462 --> 00:44:02,030 by these computers just to mine Bitcoin 1030 00:44:02,161 --> 00:44:05,730 is not a sustainable model moving forward. 1031 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:09,908 I don't think what we have todayis where we're going to land. 1032 00:44:10,038 --> 00:44:11,431 NARRATOR: Energy and climate are not 1033 00:44:11,561 --> 00:44:13,433 the only real-world issues being examined 1034 00:44:13,563 --> 00:44:15,827 with blockchain-based technologies. 1035 00:44:15,957 --> 00:44:18,351 One of the biggest problemsfacing the average citizen 1036 00:44:18,481 --> 00:44:22,616 in the digital age is privacyand security, which at its root 1037 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,270 is an issue of identity. 1038 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,838 Here too, there are innovatorshoping that blockchain 1039 00:44:26,968 --> 00:44:29,405 will provide solutions. 1040 00:44:29,536 --> 00:44:30,798 [chatter] 1041 00:44:32,365 --> 00:44:33,845 MICHAEL SENA: Today, reputation and identity 1042 00:44:33,975 --> 00:44:36,891 is sort of bestowed uponpeople by a few main providers, 1043 00:44:37,022 --> 00:44:38,414 so Equifax being one. 1044 00:44:38,545 --> 00:44:41,896 MORGAN WRIGHT: Look, thisis the nuclear explosion 1045 00:44:42,027 --> 00:44:43,681 of identity theft opportunity. 1046 00:44:43,811 --> 00:44:47,510 Look, they've got names, date ofbirth, social security numbers, 1047 00:44:47,641 --> 00:44:48,598 addresses. 1048 00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:50,209 A lot of damage can be done. 1049 00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:53,734 More than 21 million Americanshad personal information 1050 00:44:53,865 --> 00:44:56,737 stolen from government files in a data breach 1051 00:44:56,868 --> 00:44:58,957 that was six times as largeas originally disclosed. 1052 00:44:59,087 --> 00:45:00,349 --big story. 1053 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,351 Potentially tens of millions of Americans 1054 00:45:02,482 --> 00:45:05,006 are at serious risk of identity theft 1055 00:45:05,137 --> 00:45:08,836 again after this country'ssecond-largest health insurance 1056 00:45:08,967 --> 00:45:11,752 company, Anthem Insurance,got hit this time 1057 00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:13,841 by a massive electronic attack. 1058 00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:16,235 MAN: How does this continueto happen at, arguably, 1059 00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:17,758 the companies that should be thinking 1060 00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:19,455 about this kind of problem the most? 1061 00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:22,197 MICHAEL SENA: They have provenunable to securely protect 1062 00:45:22,328 --> 00:45:23,459 your data. 1063 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:25,113 So all of your data is being stored 1064 00:45:25,244 --> 00:45:27,507 in one central place that isinsecure and easy to hack. 1065 00:45:27,637 --> 00:45:29,422 Your identity is now lost on the internet 1066 00:45:29,552 --> 00:45:32,555 amongst the millions of others. 1067 00:45:32,686 --> 00:45:35,036 Our system actually turns that on its head. 1068 00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:38,518 uPort is a self-sovereignidentity and user-centric data 1069 00:45:38,648 --> 00:45:40,215 platform. 1070 00:45:40,346 --> 00:45:43,523 What that actually means isthat you control your data. 1071 00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:44,829 No one else. 1072 00:45:44,959 --> 00:45:46,787 Basically, identity without middleman. 1073 00:45:46,918 --> 00:45:50,530 And so I as a user can justregister my own identity 1074 00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:51,879 and directly control it. 1075 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:54,142 NARRATOR: With our personal data exposed-- 1076 00:45:54,273 --> 00:45:56,797 and in some cases, beingsold to the highest bidder-- 1077 00:45:56,928 --> 00:45:59,757 protecting our identity andeverything that comes with it 1078 00:45:59,887 --> 00:46:01,628 is more urgent than ever. 1079 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:02,890 SEN. 1080 00:46:03,021 --> 00:46:04,457 DICK DURBIN: Mr. Zuckerberg, would you 1081 00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:05,850 be comfortable sharing withus the name of the hotel 1082 00:46:05,980 --> 00:46:07,634 you stayed in last night? 1083 00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:08,417 Um. 1084 00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:09,984 [nervous chuckle] 1085 00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:13,771 Uh, no. 1086 00:46:13,901 --> 00:46:15,903 [chuckling] 1087 00:46:16,034 --> 00:46:17,470 SEN. 1088 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,906 DICK DURBIN: If you'vemessaged anybody this week, 1089 00:46:19,037 --> 00:46:20,995 would you share with us the names of the people 1090 00:46:21,126 --> 00:46:22,997 you've messaged? 1091 00:46:23,128 --> 00:46:24,694 Senator, no, I would probably not 1092 00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:26,044 choose to do that publicly here. 1093 00:46:26,174 --> 00:46:27,785 SEN. 1094 00:46:27,915 --> 00:46:30,222 DICK DURBIN: I think that maybe what this is all about. 1095 00:46:30,352 --> 00:46:33,051 Your right to privacy, the limits of your right 1096 00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:37,533 to privacy, and how much yougive away in modern America 1097 00:46:37,664 --> 00:46:39,492 in the name of, quote, "connecting people 1098 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:41,450 around the world." 1099 00:46:41,581 --> 00:46:43,061 NARRATOR: While blockchain companies 1100 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:46,151 attempt to address the issuesof identity and privacy, 1101 00:46:46,281 --> 00:46:48,414 the global refugee crisis has prompted 1102 00:46:48,544 --> 00:46:50,285 some of the largest and most powerful 1103 00:46:50,416 --> 00:46:53,419 humanitarian aid organizationsto pursue solutions 1104 00:46:53,549 --> 00:46:54,463 with new technology. 1105 00:47:03,385 --> 00:47:05,518 CHRIS FABIAN: I'm Chris Fabian. 1106 00:47:05,648 --> 00:47:09,435 I run a small team in UNICEFcalled UNICEF Ventures. 1107 00:47:09,565 --> 00:47:12,264 UNICEF is a huge 12,000-personorganization that advocates 1108 00:47:12,394 --> 00:47:14,701 for and pushes for the rightsof the world's most vulnerable 1109 00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:16,181 children. 1110 00:47:16,311 --> 00:47:20,576 And our team is a tiny startup within that. 1111 00:47:20,707 --> 00:47:22,883 We've been working on how we build up identity 1112 00:47:23,014 --> 00:47:25,973 in places for people who don't have an identity. 1113 00:47:26,104 --> 00:47:27,975 One of the things that we're testing now 1114 00:47:28,106 --> 00:47:30,891 is whether or not we can use tokens 1115 00:47:31,022 --> 00:47:33,676 to provide some de facto identity to refugees 1116 00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:35,722 or other unbanked people. 1117 00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:37,942 We're starting off with afew small tests in Ireland, 1118 00:47:38,072 --> 00:47:40,466 and hopefully, we're then goingto be testing that same token 1119 00:47:40,596 --> 00:47:41,989 in Lebanon and in Jordan. 1120 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,992 [atmospheric music] 1121 00:47:45,123 --> 00:47:48,213 There are 55 million kids whoare on the move because of war 1122 00:47:48,343 --> 00:47:49,867 and violence, and those kids don't 1123 00:47:49,997 --> 00:47:52,391 have a sovereign governmentto issue an identity card. 1124 00:47:52,521 --> 00:47:53,871 So how do we make sure that they're 1125 00:47:54,001 --> 00:47:56,395 part of a global ecosystem,a global economy? 1126 00:47:56,525 --> 00:47:58,876 And you can't do thatwith old traditional ways. 1127 00:47:59,006 --> 00:48:00,616 You could imagine a scenario where 1128 00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:02,880 you have somebody who's traveledthrough Europe as a refugee, 1129 00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:05,534 and they started in Syria,and they ended up in Ireland. 1130 00:48:05,665 --> 00:48:07,145 If they're a teenager, they've probably 1131 00:48:07,275 --> 00:48:09,364 gone through five paper identifications 1132 00:48:09,495 --> 00:48:11,149 at each country. 1133 00:48:11,279 --> 00:48:12,977 But if they had a token thatcould inscribe each time they 1134 00:48:13,107 --> 00:48:15,109 went through a registration,like, hey, I did this, 1135 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,807 I was there, then you wouldn'tneed to necessarily issue 1136 00:48:17,938 --> 00:48:20,027 a new ID each moment. 1137 00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:23,378 You have one number thatlinks you to your identity. 1138 00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:25,119 This shows that they had a history. 1139 00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:27,774 And you might then be morelikely to give them a job. 1140 00:48:27,905 --> 00:48:30,081 You know this person didn'tjust pop up out of nowhere. 1141 00:48:30,211 --> 00:48:33,519 And so for us, the token is an electronic version 1142 00:48:33,649 --> 00:48:35,347 of that existence trail. 1143 00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:37,479 Being able to count something that we know 1144 00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:38,959 is happening, being able to count it 1145 00:48:39,090 --> 00:48:40,482 in an authentic and auditable way, 1146 00:48:40,613 --> 00:48:41,788 and be able to do that publicly. 1147 00:48:44,878 --> 00:48:45,748 It's an accounting tool. 1148 00:48:45,879 --> 00:48:47,533 It's a ledger. 1149 00:48:47,663 --> 00:48:50,188 But if we can reduce the painpoints on the poorest people, 1150 00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:53,191 we give them a little bitmore time in their life. 1151 00:48:53,321 --> 00:48:55,236 And time is the most valuablething any of us have. 1152 00:49:10,817 --> 00:49:12,558 HOUMAN HADDAD: My name is Houman Haddad, 1153 00:49:12,688 --> 00:49:16,388 and I work for the UnitedNations World Food Program. 1154 00:49:16,518 --> 00:49:18,868 The World Food Program is the world's largest 1155 00:49:18,999 --> 00:49:23,656 humanitarian organization, andits mission is to end hunger. 1156 00:49:23,786 --> 00:49:26,311 We're in the Zaatari refugee camp, 1157 00:49:26,441 --> 00:49:29,009 which hosts 75,000 Syrian refugees who have 1158 00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:32,230 fled due to the conflict there. 1159 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,233 Currently, we're in one of thesupermarkets that essentially 1160 00:49:35,363 --> 00:49:38,497 provides groceries tothe people who live here. 1161 00:49:38,627 --> 00:49:41,543 What is special about what isgoing on in this supermarket 1162 00:49:41,674 --> 00:49:44,068 is that all thetransactions are actually 1163 00:49:44,198 --> 00:49:47,332 authorized and recorded on a blockchain network. 1164 00:49:47,462 --> 00:49:50,161 It is through a projectcalled Building Blocks, which 1165 00:49:50,291 --> 00:49:52,250 is WFP's implementation of blockchain 1166 00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:55,122 technology towards humanitarian assistance. 1167 00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:57,385 [light instrumental music] 1168 00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:02,086 For the most part, this is a normal supermarket. 1169 00:50:02,216 --> 00:50:03,609 You walk in. 1170 00:50:03,739 --> 00:50:05,654 There is the usual groceryitems that you expect. 1171 00:50:05,785 --> 00:50:08,309 You pick them up, you go tothe cash, they are scanned. 1172 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,311 But at the time that you want to pay, 1173 00:50:10,442 --> 00:50:12,879 instead of paying with a card or with cash, 1174 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,099 you pay with your eyes. 1175 00:50:15,229 --> 00:50:19,407 That returns a special code, andyour entitlements on Building 1176 00:50:19,538 --> 00:50:21,540 Blocks are tied to that code. 1177 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:23,933 So without having anyphysical device or a need 1178 00:50:24,064 --> 00:50:26,284 to memorize a password, the people we serve 1179 00:50:26,414 --> 00:50:31,158 can efficiently and effectivelymake their purchases. 1180 00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:32,681 What we've done with Building Block 1181 00:50:32,812 --> 00:50:35,554 is essentially taking allthis accounting portion 1182 00:50:35,684 --> 00:50:37,295 and put it on blockchain. 1183 00:50:37,425 --> 00:50:39,601 And because we're authorizingevery transaction ourselves, 1184 00:50:39,732 --> 00:50:42,082 we essentially have areal-time record of everything 1185 00:50:42,213 --> 00:50:44,302 that happens, so we're not as reliant 1186 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,565 on third-party service providers, such as banks 1187 00:50:46,695 --> 00:50:49,524 and mobile money companies. 1188 00:50:49,655 --> 00:50:51,787 We believe blockchain has a lot of potential 1189 00:50:51,918 --> 00:50:54,268 to help WFP better do its work. 1190 00:50:54,399 --> 00:50:57,097 Some of the ideas are not fully developed yet, 1191 00:50:57,228 --> 00:50:58,925 but we have just started our journey. 1192 00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:02,015 We are doing a lot ofthings for the first time. 1193 00:51:02,146 --> 00:51:04,539 Everything is very new and exciting. 1194 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:07,281 And we do want to move forward with blockchain. 1195 00:51:10,415 --> 00:51:12,025 NARRATOR: One area of global culture 1196 00:51:12,156 --> 00:51:14,462 that was completely upendedby the arrival of the internet 1197 00:51:14,593 --> 00:51:16,160 was the manufacture and distribution 1198 00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:17,813 of music and other media. 1199 00:51:17,944 --> 00:51:19,598 REPORTER: This freshman atPalm Beach Atlantic College 1200 00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:22,601 used to download songs fromhis favorite bands on Napster. 1201 00:51:22,731 --> 00:51:24,733 Now he thinks the musiciansare getting too greedy. 1202 00:51:24,864 --> 00:51:26,735 CHARLIE ROSE: Artists andthe recording industry 1203 00:51:26,866 --> 00:51:28,215 want the website shut down. 1204 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:30,043 REPORTER: Federal court ruled Monday Napster 1205 00:51:30,174 --> 00:51:33,264 must stop allowing music fansto swap copyrighted material. 1206 00:51:33,394 --> 00:51:35,875 Napster users had downloadedan estimated 200 million songs. 1207 00:51:36,005 --> 00:51:37,268 CHARLIE ROSE: --is an action filed 1208 00:51:37,398 --> 00:51:38,878 by the legendary heavy metal group Metallica. 1209 00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:39,748 Hang on. 1210 00:51:39,879 --> 00:51:40,619 It's not about money. 1211 00:51:40,749 --> 00:51:41,663 It's about control. 1212 00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:43,361 It's really about the control. 1213 00:51:43,491 --> 00:51:45,580 MAN: We've all seen what'shappened to the music industry 1214 00:51:45,711 --> 00:51:47,191 with new technology. 1215 00:51:47,321 --> 00:51:49,802 INTERVIEWER: Can an artistsurvive on Spotify income? 1216 00:51:49,932 --> 00:51:51,717 I think that streaming-- 1217 00:51:51,847 --> 00:51:53,414 I'm absolutely sure that streaming 1218 00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:55,547 will be the dominant way that artists 1219 00:51:55,677 --> 00:51:56,896 will get paid in the future. 1220 00:51:57,026 --> 00:51:58,593 MAN: They're not going to make any money. 1221 00:51:58,724 --> 00:52:00,987 MAN: What can artists do buttake what Spotify gives them? 1222 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:02,771 MAN: 0.00006 of a cent. 1223 00:52:02,902 --> 00:52:04,469 I might have left a zero off there. 1224 00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:08,386 Is something like that nowhappening to movies and TV? 1225 00:52:08,516 --> 00:52:09,604 Yes. 1226 00:52:09,735 --> 00:52:11,258 Netflix has its own business model. 1227 00:52:11,389 --> 00:52:12,825 ANNOUNCER: Streaming video online. 1228 00:52:12,955 --> 00:52:15,784 WOMAN: Many people are gettingtheir content these days 1229 00:52:15,915 --> 00:52:17,786 on streaming services. 1230 00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:19,179 WOMAN: The movie industry is really 1231 00:52:19,310 --> 00:52:20,789 facing a crisis right now. 1232 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,835 MAN: Being able to compensatethe rightful creators 1233 00:52:22,965 --> 00:52:24,663 is a big-- 1234 00:52:24,793 --> 00:52:26,795 NARRATOR: A new model for thedistribution and compensation 1235 00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:29,885 for art and artists is badly needed, 1236 00:52:30,016 --> 00:52:32,323 and some believe blockchaincould lead the way. 1237 00:52:32,453 --> 00:52:33,280 [MUSIC - IMOGEN HEAP, "HIDE AND SEEK"] 1238 00:52:33,411 --> 00:52:34,368 IMOGEN HEAP: [SINGING] Mmm. 1239 00:52:39,243 --> 00:52:49,818 Spin me around again and rub my eyes. 1240 00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:51,733 Three years ago, I heard the word "blockchain" 1241 00:52:51,864 --> 00:52:54,693 for the first time, and I went through looking 1242 00:52:54,823 --> 00:52:55,911 what this thing was about. 1243 00:52:56,042 --> 00:52:58,305 [SINGING] When busy-- 1244 00:52:58,436 --> 00:53:01,439 I feel like this blockchain revolution, 1245 00:53:01,569 --> 00:53:04,224 there's an opportunity for us torethink the music industry how 1246 00:53:04,355 --> 00:53:05,791 we would like it to be, so people 1247 00:53:05,921 --> 00:53:08,620 could do business easierwith our songs, and with us. 1248 00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:12,319 We did an early experimentwhere we did direct payments 1249 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:14,930 using smart contract for thisone song called "Tiny Human." 1250 00:53:15,061 --> 00:53:17,150 You know, a kind of pay-as-you-use, 1251 00:53:17,281 --> 00:53:19,021 taking a little bit at a time. 1252 00:53:19,152 --> 00:53:20,849 [light music] 1253 00:53:20,980 --> 00:53:22,721 A Spotify or an iTunes has to deal 1254 00:53:22,851 --> 00:53:25,245 with 200 individual organizations 1255 00:53:25,376 --> 00:53:28,727 to send money to aroundthe world for one artist, 1256 00:53:28,857 --> 00:53:31,382 and that's crazy. 1257 00:53:31,512 --> 00:53:32,774 There's many applications which I 1258 00:53:32,905 --> 00:53:34,907 feel could spring out of this. 1259 00:53:35,037 --> 00:53:37,692 One of them could simply be, how could artists 1260 00:53:37,823 --> 00:53:41,043 give really easilytoward a disaster relief? 1261 00:53:41,174 --> 00:53:44,090 Then there's some acknowledgmentof that going to something. 1262 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:45,700 So you actually become-- 1263 00:53:45,831 --> 00:53:48,747 you become a beacon for whatyou stand for that's not 1264 00:53:48,877 --> 00:53:50,009 disconnected to the song. 1265 00:53:50,139 --> 00:53:51,532 [MUSIC - IMOGEN HEAP, "HIDE AND SEEK"] 1266 00:53:51,663 --> 00:53:56,624 [SINGING] Hide and seek. 1267 00:53:56,755 --> 00:53:59,279 One of the many positive things,I think, that came from Napster 1268 00:53:59,410 --> 00:54:02,282 is that there is this, look,you see what happened then 1269 00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:04,153 if you don't embrace change. 1270 00:54:04,284 --> 00:54:06,591 This is going to happen to you again, 1271 00:54:06,721 --> 00:54:07,896 but a million times worse. 1272 00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:12,205 [SINGING] --and seek. 1273 00:54:12,336 --> 00:54:14,076 I believe in the power of blockchain 1274 00:54:14,207 --> 00:54:15,730 to put something forward that's really 1275 00:54:15,861 --> 00:54:17,993 going to enable us to have aflourishing music ecosystem. 1276 00:54:18,124 --> 00:54:19,212 [SINGING] Oh, oh. 1277 00:54:23,738 --> 00:54:26,045 [cheering] 1278 00:54:27,786 --> 00:54:29,266 Thank you everyone, ah--thank you, everyone, thank you 1279 00:54:29,396 --> 00:54:30,484 for this amazing feeling. 1280 00:54:30,615 --> 00:54:32,921 [upbeat electronic music] 1281 00:54:38,013 --> 00:54:39,754 GRAMATIK: For me, it's very simple. 1282 00:54:39,885 --> 00:54:42,931 Trying to be financiallystable and independent, not 1283 00:54:43,062 --> 00:54:45,978 beholden to any gatekeepers and intermediaries, 1284 00:54:46,108 --> 00:54:51,331 and able to make music with 100% freedom. 1285 00:54:51,462 --> 00:54:54,900 In the beginning, I was tiedto some smaller label that 1286 00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:56,902 were trying to do it the old school way, 1287 00:54:57,032 --> 00:54:59,078 and I was very frustrated with that. 1288 00:54:59,208 --> 00:55:01,863 So I just ended up leaving andputting my entire discography 1289 00:55:01,994 --> 00:55:04,866 on Pirate Bay. 1290 00:55:04,997 --> 00:55:08,740 I just want to think about making good art. 1291 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:12,178 Once you really realize what adecentralized technology means, 1292 00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:15,877 you can't think of the futurewith technology any other way. 1293 00:55:16,008 --> 00:55:18,053 You could tokenize anything, you know? 1294 00:55:18,184 --> 00:55:19,620 That's why ever since I found out 1295 00:55:19,751 --> 00:55:22,667 about blockchain and Bitcoinabout four years ago, 1296 00:55:22,797 --> 00:55:25,626 I've been waiting to utilizethis revolutionary technology 1297 00:55:25,757 --> 00:55:27,498 to change our industry. 1298 00:55:27,628 --> 00:55:30,544 I'm really excited to be able to be a part of it. 1299 00:55:30,675 --> 00:55:32,938 It's like stocks 2.0. 1300 00:55:33,068 --> 00:55:35,070 MAN: We are go for launch. 1301 00:55:35,201 --> 00:55:38,813 [upbeat electronic music] 1302 00:55:38,944 --> 00:55:41,947 NARRATOR: In November of2017, at a show in Zurich, 1303 00:55:42,077 --> 00:55:45,124 Gramatik launched the token for his own blockchain. 1304 00:55:45,254 --> 00:55:46,908 The token allows the buyer to share 1305 00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,607 in the revenue of Gramatik'sintellectual property, 1306 00:55:49,737 --> 00:55:51,913 creating a direct andequity-based relationship 1307 00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:54,960 between artist and fan. 1308 00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:56,701 GRAMATIK: The success of the platform 1309 00:55:56,831 --> 00:55:59,486 is way more important to methan the success of my token, 1310 00:55:59,617 --> 00:56:02,271 because the platformactually has the potential 1311 00:56:02,402 --> 00:56:03,229 to change the industry. 1312 00:56:08,669 --> 00:56:12,412 My token is just enabling me to make art. 1313 00:56:12,543 --> 00:56:15,720 That's what's most excitingabout the whole idea. 1314 00:56:15,850 --> 00:56:19,985 Being completely autonomous andfree to make your art the way 1315 00:56:20,115 --> 00:56:23,815 you want it without anybody controlling you. 1316 00:56:23,945 --> 00:56:26,295 That's what you dream about. 1317 00:56:26,426 --> 00:56:28,080 NARRATOR: Most of the investors are already 1318 00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:30,778 committed members of the cryptocurrency space, 1319 00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:33,564 so the question remains whetherblockchain technology is 1320 00:56:33,694 --> 00:56:35,740 a panacea or a case of wishful thinking. 1321 00:56:40,092 --> 00:56:41,789 REPORTER: AllegedBritish hacker Lauri Love 1322 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,574 has been given the green light to appeal 1323 00:56:43,704 --> 00:56:48,143 his extradition to the US, wherehe's wanted for cyber hacking. 1324 00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:50,145 How are you feeling about it? 1325 00:56:50,276 --> 00:56:51,799 I'm really happy that we got this news 1326 00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:53,540 and not the other news that would mean I 1327 00:56:53,671 --> 00:56:55,150 would be getting kidnapped imminently. 1328 00:56:55,281 --> 00:56:57,805 So we're very thankful for it. 1329 00:56:57,936 --> 00:56:59,720 So all we're asking for in this appeal 1330 00:56:59,851 --> 00:57:02,462 is that the UK jurisdiction applies. 1331 00:57:02,593 --> 00:57:03,681 I've never been to America. 1332 00:57:03,811 --> 00:57:05,204 It's not that I've escaped from there 1333 00:57:05,334 --> 00:57:06,423 after committing some crimes. 1334 00:57:06,553 --> 00:57:08,207 Any crimes, if they were committed, 1335 00:57:08,337 --> 00:57:11,253 were committed in the UK, and wehave computer crime laws here, 1336 00:57:11,384 --> 00:57:13,821 and we have perfectly functioning courts. 1337 00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:15,649 So I'm just asking for what anybody else 1338 00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:17,259 in a similar position would expect, 1339 00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:19,436 and that's to be tried inthe courts of the country 1340 00:57:19,566 --> 00:57:20,611 where they live. 1341 00:57:20,741 --> 00:57:21,829 I'm happy to have my day in court 1342 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,527 once I see some evidence against me, 1343 00:57:23,657 --> 00:57:26,051 because so far, no evidencehas been produced by the USA 1344 00:57:26,181 --> 00:57:28,053 about my involvement. 1345 00:57:28,183 --> 00:57:31,273 NARRATOR: Lauri's case receivedwidespread press in the UK-- 1346 00:57:31,404 --> 00:57:33,450 REPORTER: The family are well-known locally, 1347 00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,452 and-- it would seem-- well-liked. 1348 00:57:35,582 --> 00:57:37,671 NARRATOR: --but saw littleattention in the US, 1349 00:57:37,802 --> 00:57:40,195 except amongst the technologycommunity and the more critical 1350 00:57:40,326 --> 00:57:41,806 political journalists. 1351 00:57:41,936 --> 00:57:43,590 BARRETT BROWN: They will over-indict 1352 00:57:43,721 --> 00:57:46,375 people to begin with, as theyhave done in Lauri Love's case. 1353 00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:49,204 Anyone who's indicted willgo through a certain level 1354 00:57:49,335 --> 00:57:50,510 of due process violation. 1355 00:57:50,641 --> 00:57:52,164 And anyone who's imprisoned in the US 1356 00:57:52,294 --> 00:57:54,296 will find that they haveno recourse to the courts, 1357 00:57:54,427 --> 00:57:56,603 although they're technically supposed to. 1358 00:57:56,734 --> 00:57:58,823 The prison authorities will work to stymie 1359 00:57:58,953 --> 00:58:02,304 the process of an inmate, forinstance, complaining about not 1360 00:58:02,435 --> 00:58:05,177 getting medication, beingheld legally in the shoe, 1361 00:58:05,307 --> 00:58:07,266 in the hall, for months on end. 1362 00:58:07,396 --> 00:58:09,007 Problem with the US justice system 1363 00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:13,359 is that it's one of those thingsthat no one actually seriously 1364 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:14,882 asserts that it works properly. 1365 00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:20,627 LAURI LOVE: I'm facing being extradited 1366 00:58:20,758 --> 00:58:22,455 to a country I've never visited, and they'd 1367 00:58:22,586 --> 00:58:27,678 like to lock me up for 99 yearsbecause the US government has 1368 00:58:27,808 --> 00:58:30,942 stamped its mark on the internet while trying 1369 00:58:31,072 --> 00:58:32,334 to say that this is about freedom, 1370 00:58:32,465 --> 00:58:34,685 and trade, and nice things. 1371 00:58:34,815 --> 00:58:37,252 So we have a battle now. 1372 00:58:37,383 --> 00:58:40,038 REPORTER: No date has yetbeen set for the appeal. 1373 00:58:40,168 --> 00:58:43,563 [atmospheric music] 1374 00:58:43,694 --> 00:58:45,696 NARRATOR: By the end of the summer of 2017, 1375 00:58:45,826 --> 00:58:48,960 Bitcoin, Ethereum, and theentire cryptocurrency market 1376 00:58:49,090 --> 00:58:51,310 continues to climb to all-time highs, 1377 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,225 blindsiding the establishment. 1378 00:58:53,355 --> 00:58:57,185 I don't understand what's behind Bitcoin. 1379 00:58:57,316 --> 00:59:00,232 I can't see any intrinsic value. 1380 00:59:00,362 --> 00:59:02,451 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, the Trump administration 1381 00:59:02,582 --> 00:59:04,584 intensifies the government'saggressive stance 1382 00:59:04,715 --> 00:59:06,543 on the internet and new technologies, 1383 00:59:06,673 --> 00:59:09,720 repealing net neutrality, aset of regulations intended 1384 00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:11,765 to maintain an open internet. 1385 00:59:11,896 --> 00:59:13,419 But several companies are fighting back 1386 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:15,508 against excessive corporateand government control 1387 00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:18,729 of the internet using blockchain technology. 1388 00:59:18,859 --> 00:59:21,209 JOHN LYOTIER: If you looked atthis whole centralized system 1389 00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:23,560 we're living in, everythinggoes up and across the ISP, 1390 00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:24,822 and that's just not right. 1391 00:59:24,952 --> 00:59:27,041 That's really what we want to change. 1392 00:59:27,172 --> 00:59:29,957 We let people transmitinformation back and forth 1393 00:59:30,088 --> 00:59:32,481 without using the internet. 1394 00:59:32,612 --> 00:59:34,571 The internet itself is one giant mesh network. 1395 00:59:34,701 --> 00:59:36,485 It has centralized nodes that connect everybody 1396 00:59:36,616 --> 00:59:38,226 to each other. 1397 00:59:38,357 --> 00:59:40,272 But as soon as somebody canstart controlling that layer, 1398 00:59:40,402 --> 00:59:41,969 it's not a decentralized system. 1399 00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:43,754 But in our perspective, what we look at as 1400 00:59:43,884 --> 00:59:46,931 mesh is really much more of adevice-to-device communication 1401 00:59:47,061 --> 00:59:48,933 without having to go upto those central servers. 1402 00:59:54,852 --> 00:59:57,855 So my phone broadcasts signal,and your phone receives signal. 1403 00:59:57,985 --> 01:00:02,903 There's no internet, no ISP in the middle of us. 1404 01:00:03,034 --> 01:00:05,819 But we didn't quite realizehow much of a threat we were. 1405 01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:07,647 Not just to the telecom companies-- anybody 1406 01:00:07,778 --> 01:00:09,518 who's basically built their livelihood off 1407 01:00:09,649 --> 01:00:11,520 of the centralized system. 1408 01:00:11,651 --> 01:00:13,914 They're all threatened by thisnew decentralized ecosystem 1409 01:00:14,045 --> 01:00:15,568 that can evolve. 1410 01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:17,396 There's no need for a lotof these players and people 1411 01:00:17,526 --> 01:00:18,963 to exist in the first place. 1412 01:00:19,093 --> 01:00:20,878 That's really what thisdecentralized movement's all 1413 01:00:21,008 --> 01:00:22,706 about. 1414 01:00:22,836 --> 01:00:24,925 NARRATOR: While some lookto decentralize the internet 1415 01:00:25,056 --> 01:00:26,840 and exchange of information, others 1416 01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:29,234 look to decentralized systemsof financial exchange. 1417 01:00:29,364 --> 01:00:32,237 [traffic rumbling] 1418 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:34,805 MICHAEL OVED: Finance proliferates 1419 01:00:34,935 --> 01:00:38,025 into all of society. 1420 01:00:38,156 --> 01:00:39,810 But currently, the way to trade assets 1421 01:00:39,940 --> 01:00:42,421 is through centralized exchanges. 1422 01:00:42,551 --> 01:00:45,467 Centralized exchangesare run by a third party. 1423 01:00:45,598 --> 01:00:47,861 At AirSwap, we're building a decentralized exchange 1424 01:00:47,992 --> 01:00:50,734 which allows you to just swapvalue with anyone globally 1425 01:00:50,864 --> 01:00:52,518 on a peer-to-peer basis. 1426 01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,869 These projects are a littlebit different than most, maybe, 1427 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,305 start-ups. 1428 01:00:57,436 --> 01:00:59,525 For a token launch, you need a group of people 1429 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:02,659 to be behind you to get this thing through. 1430 01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:05,009 NARRATOR: In October of 2017, AirSwap 1431 01:01:05,139 --> 01:01:08,882 launched its own token sale,otherwise known as an ICO. 1432 01:01:09,013 --> 01:01:10,928 An ICO is an initial coin offering, 1433 01:01:11,058 --> 01:01:13,365 which takes its name fromthe standard IPO, when 1434 01:01:13,495 --> 01:01:16,585 a company takes itselfpublic on the stock market. 1435 01:01:16,716 --> 01:01:19,240 An ICO will allow the publicto buy into the company 1436 01:01:19,371 --> 01:01:21,155 directly, and potentially provide 1437 01:01:21,286 --> 01:01:23,244 the company with much-needed financing 1438 01:01:23,375 --> 01:01:25,203 and support in order to survive. 1439 01:01:25,333 --> 01:01:27,640 MICHAEL OVED: Been at this for72 hours straight, actually. 1440 01:01:27,771 --> 01:01:29,511 The past three days were power naps. 1441 01:01:29,642 --> 01:01:33,777 It's like finals week in collegeor anything super intense. 1442 01:01:33,907 --> 01:01:36,693 NISSA SZABO: So the sale opens in 15 minutes. 1443 01:01:36,823 --> 01:01:39,086 We're just preparing the communication 1444 01:01:39,217 --> 01:01:41,001 that's all going to go out right at that time. 1445 01:01:41,132 --> 01:01:43,134 We'll be sending to email, social-- 1446 01:01:43,264 --> 01:01:46,615 you know, Twitter, Facebook--as well as the Telegram channel. 1447 01:01:46,746 --> 01:01:48,748 Hey, someone's claiming they're a staff member 1448 01:01:48,879 --> 01:01:49,575 and they're not. 1449 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:50,184 We should ban them. 1450 01:01:50,315 --> 01:01:51,055 "J Sitio." 1451 01:01:51,185 --> 01:01:53,492 I got it. 1452 01:01:53,622 --> 01:01:56,582 Somebody is posing as us. 1453 01:01:56,713 --> 01:02:00,542 And they're asking people tosend-- to contribute here. 1454 01:02:00,673 --> 01:02:02,327 MAN: There are still scammers in the room. 1455 01:02:02,457 --> 01:02:03,154 Take them out. 1456 01:02:03,284 --> 01:02:04,721 Yeah, I'm trying. 1457 01:02:04,851 --> 01:02:05,678 MAN: Can we-- 1458 01:02:05,809 --> 01:02:06,679 WOMAN: Can we block them? 1459 01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:07,506 MAN: Yes. 1460 01:02:07,636 --> 01:02:08,725 In AirSwap Official. 1461 01:02:08,855 --> 01:02:10,030 Announce that we're being flooded. 1462 01:02:10,161 --> 01:02:11,553 I don't know if we can. 1463 01:02:11,684 --> 01:02:13,251 MAN: What was going onthere are two Google ads-- 1464 01:02:13,381 --> 01:02:15,122 just some more scam websites. 1465 01:02:15,253 --> 01:02:16,820 Those are fake. 1466 01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:18,865 And then that's the real one. 1467 01:02:18,996 --> 01:02:20,911 We just need a single source of truth 1468 01:02:21,041 --> 01:02:24,566 for a list of offending sitesso we can track these things. 1469 01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:26,438 MICHAEL OVED: I mean, these are the same kind 1470 01:02:26,568 --> 01:02:29,702 of people that are justscamming people around the web. 1471 01:02:29,833 --> 01:02:31,922 Every token launch in thelast 12 months or something 1472 01:02:32,052 --> 01:02:34,533 will have a problem withpeople trying to steal funds 1473 01:02:34,663 --> 01:02:36,274 from the users, the customers. 1474 01:02:36,404 --> 01:02:38,624 There's tons of accounts. 1475 01:02:38,755 --> 01:02:40,017 I'm banning all of them. 1476 01:02:40,147 --> 01:02:41,366 MAN: How do I-- 1477 01:02:41,496 --> 01:02:43,150 MAN: This is only going to get crazier. 1478 01:02:43,281 --> 01:02:44,586 MAN: Yeah, this is fucked up. 1479 01:02:44,717 --> 01:02:47,502 [dramatic music] 1480 01:02:49,069 --> 01:02:50,418 MICHAEL OVED: And now we're in the main sale. 1481 01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:51,811 People are just anxious right now. 1482 01:02:51,942 --> 01:02:53,508 They want to get in. 1483 01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:55,380 We actually thought we wouldget about 5,000 submissions. 1484 01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:58,383 We ended up getting 18,000 in 24 hours. 1485 01:02:58,513 --> 01:03:03,301 So that's about $12million the current price. 1486 01:03:03,431 --> 01:03:08,045 People are not popping champagne bottles today. 1487 01:03:08,175 --> 01:03:10,351 Today is not the end game. 1488 01:03:10,482 --> 01:03:11,613 It's really just the beginning. 1489 01:03:11,744 --> 01:03:14,051 [ominous music] 1490 01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:30,197 MARK JEFFREY: Hello? 1491 01:03:30,328 --> 01:03:31,242 How you doing? 1492 01:03:31,372 --> 01:03:32,286 Hey, did you change something? 1493 01:03:32,417 --> 01:03:33,244 MAN [ON COMPUTER]: No problem. 1494 01:03:33,374 --> 01:03:33,897 MARK JEFFREY: There we go. 1495 01:03:34,027 --> 01:03:35,550 Much better. 1496 01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:36,377 MAN [ON COMPUTER]: I justfinished watching the video 1497 01:03:36,508 --> 01:03:37,161 that you sent along. 1498 01:03:37,291 --> 01:03:37,770 Looks really cool. 1499 01:03:37,901 --> 01:03:38,466 Oh, cool. 1500 01:03:38,597 --> 01:03:39,206 Thank you, man. 1501 01:03:39,337 --> 01:03:40,599 Appreciate that. 1502 01:03:40,729 --> 01:03:43,080 In the developing world, people have no 911, 1503 01:03:43,210 --> 01:03:46,126 so we're looking at usingcryptocurrency, tokens, 1504 01:03:46,257 --> 01:03:48,172 the blockchain world, in order to create 1505 01:03:48,302 --> 01:03:52,219 an economic framework fordecentralized 911 worldwide. 1506 01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:54,918 So we created a currency called Guardium. 1507 01:03:55,048 --> 01:03:57,659 So you can think of it as thisnew worldwide public utility. 1508 01:03:57,790 --> 01:03:59,400 MAN [ON COMPUTER]: In the video, it 1509 01:03:59,531 --> 01:04:01,620 said that you guys were tryingto have a token sale November 1510 01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:03,404 15th or something, but that's changed now. 1511 01:04:03,535 --> 01:04:04,753 We did. 1512 01:04:04,884 --> 01:04:06,930 We pushed it back to January 22, just 1513 01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:09,410 for a whole bunch of reasons. 1514 01:04:09,541 --> 01:04:10,890 Technical volatility of the market 1515 01:04:11,021 --> 01:04:14,546 was just crazy at the time, and there 1516 01:04:14,676 --> 01:04:15,982 were like five or six things. 1517 01:04:16,113 --> 01:04:17,723 Yeah. 1518 01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:19,333 NARRATOR: And now everyone in the world 1519 01:04:19,464 --> 01:04:21,858 knows the words Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. 1520 01:04:21,988 --> 01:04:24,251 What had been dismissed since its inception is 1521 01:04:24,382 --> 01:04:26,819 a global phenomenon, a kind of crypto land 1522 01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:29,430 rush, both by financial investors and start-ups 1523 01:04:29,561 --> 01:04:31,389 creating their own ICOs. 1524 01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:34,914 And with that rush comesmassive speculation and hype. 1525 01:04:35,045 --> 01:04:36,002 MAN: Why not make a buck? 1526 01:04:36,133 --> 01:04:37,047 Check out crypto. 1527 01:04:37,177 --> 01:04:38,526 Dash digital cash. 1528 01:04:38,657 --> 01:04:39,832 MAN: Oh, please, please, please. 1529 01:04:39,963 --> 01:04:40,702 CHARLES PAYNE: Make no mistake. 1530 01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:42,008 This is the Wild West. 1531 01:04:42,139 --> 01:04:44,141 There are now 1,300 cryptocurrencies, 1532 01:04:44,271 --> 01:04:46,012 not to mention any number of companies 1533 01:04:46,143 --> 01:04:47,840 that claim to be in the blockchain business. 1534 01:04:47,971 --> 01:04:49,363 MAN: Initial coin offerings. 1535 01:04:49,494 --> 01:04:50,799 Obviously a lot ofopportunists out there either 1536 01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:53,150 creating their own bespoke coins, 1537 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,848 or just essentially tryingto rebrand themselves 1538 01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,458 as a blockchain or Bitcoin play. 1539 01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:58,895 MAN: We have several examples where 1540 01:04:59,025 --> 01:05:01,027 people are trying to adopt the lingo 1541 01:05:01,158 --> 01:05:03,160 of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies 1542 01:05:03,290 --> 01:05:05,379 to try to enhance the valueof stocks that have nothing 1543 01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:06,946 to do with it. 1544 01:05:07,077 --> 01:05:08,774 NARRATOR: Celebrities jumponboard the ICO craze. 1545 01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:10,210 Everyone from Paris Hilton-- 1546 01:05:10,341 --> 01:05:11,255 That's hot. 1547 01:05:11,385 --> 01:05:12,256 NARRATOR: --to Floyd Mayweather. 1548 01:05:12,386 --> 01:05:13,997 FLOYD MAYWEATHER: What's up? 1549 01:05:14,127 --> 01:05:16,129 It's the one and only, yourman Floyd "Money" Mayweather. 1550 01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:18,131 You see right there? 1551 01:05:18,262 --> 01:05:19,480 Get my card out. 1552 01:05:19,611 --> 01:05:22,309 My Centra card. 1553 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,009 I'm doing big things. 1554 01:05:26,139 --> 01:05:27,619 MAN: And this is the strange thing 1555 01:05:27,749 --> 01:05:30,622 that I really don't understand, is 1556 01:05:30,752 --> 01:05:33,930 in the midst of news of this lawsuit, 1557 01:05:34,060 --> 01:05:35,279 the token price has gone up. 1558 01:05:35,409 --> 01:05:36,541 [cash register ding] 1559 01:05:36,671 --> 01:05:37,890 One thing's for sure. 1560 01:05:38,021 --> 01:05:41,633 We're in a really crazy market right now. 1561 01:05:41,763 --> 01:05:43,374 There are some really interesting things 1562 01:05:43,504 --> 01:05:45,332 that only these kind of distributed 1563 01:05:45,463 --> 01:05:46,943 decentralized systems can do. 1564 01:05:47,073 --> 01:05:50,598 But people are not necessarilybuying these currencies 1565 01:05:50,729 --> 01:05:52,383 because of the tech. 1566 01:05:52,513 --> 01:05:56,343 They're buying them becauseof other factors, like money. 1567 01:05:56,474 --> 01:05:58,650 NARRATOR: This flood of ICOs and speculation 1568 01:05:58,780 --> 01:06:01,131 suggests that cryptocurrenciesand blockchain-based 1569 01:06:01,261 --> 01:06:04,264 technologies will likelyrequire some form of regulation 1570 01:06:04,395 --> 01:06:06,179 in order to survive. 1571 01:06:06,310 --> 01:06:09,878 Companies like Omega One,another decentralized exchange, 1572 01:06:10,009 --> 01:06:12,229 are trying to navigate this unstable terrain. 1573 01:06:14,622 --> 01:06:16,189 MAN: I don't know about Omega One. 1574 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,365 [chatter] 1575 01:06:20,324 --> 01:06:21,890 ALEX KEEGAN: So he's actuallyprobably putting on, supporting 1576 01:06:22,021 --> 01:06:23,370 through Omega One, and watching the exchange 1577 01:06:23,501 --> 01:06:24,763 to see if he can see it happening? 1578 01:06:24,893 --> 01:06:25,720 MAN: Yeah, exactly. 1579 01:06:25,851 --> 01:06:26,983 MAN: There's no doubt. 1580 01:06:27,113 --> 01:06:27,809 ALEX KEEGAN: The regulatory environment 1581 01:06:27,940 --> 01:06:29,072 is pretty uncertain. 1582 01:06:29,202 --> 01:06:30,508 MAN: He's got his two monitors open. 1583 01:06:30,638 --> 01:06:33,119 Basically, trading cryptocurrencies 1584 01:06:33,250 --> 01:06:36,122 is really dangerous and really expensive. 1585 01:06:36,253 --> 01:06:37,950 There's an interesting dynamic where 1586 01:06:38,081 --> 01:06:40,300 it's hard to provide goodprotections to token holders 1587 01:06:40,431 --> 01:06:43,738 because there isn't a regulatoryframework for that exact thing 1588 01:06:43,869 --> 01:06:45,088 yet. 1589 01:06:45,218 --> 01:06:46,872 A lot of what people have done, I think, 1590 01:06:47,003 --> 01:06:49,875 is just try to create no legalobligation to a token holder. 1591 01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:53,313 So at a high level, you see regulatory reactions 1592 01:06:53,444 --> 01:06:56,229 that make sense, from different countries. 1593 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,579 In China, they want to crack down on Bitcoin. 1594 01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:00,538 And they're a situation where, much more 1595 01:07:00,668 --> 01:07:03,889 than it is the case in the US,this ICO market got really hot. 1596 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,109 So we already know that in the last few months, 1597 01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:08,763 China has banned local bitcoin exchanges 1598 01:07:08,894 --> 01:07:11,723 and also cracked down on ICOs. 1599 01:07:11,853 --> 01:07:13,377 SKY GUO: The Chinese central government, 1600 01:07:13,507 --> 01:07:16,249 they fear that becauseit's kind of decentralized, 1601 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:18,469 that they cannot fully control it, 1602 01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,124 that it may cause financial crisis. 1603 01:07:21,254 --> 01:07:23,169 The technology itself, of course, it 1604 01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:24,823 needs innovation and progress. 1605 01:07:24,953 --> 01:07:27,391 But it also needs some kind of regulation, 1606 01:07:27,521 --> 01:07:32,744 because right now, the ICOplace is full of scammers. 1607 01:07:32,874 --> 01:07:34,311 ALEX KEEGAN: In the US, this obviously 1608 01:07:34,441 --> 01:07:35,964 is a thing that needs some kind of regulation. 1609 01:07:36,095 --> 01:07:38,054 There is a question of which regulatory body is 1610 01:07:38,184 --> 01:07:40,186 going to regulate which things. 1611 01:07:40,317 --> 01:07:43,363 If a utility token isn't a security, what is it? 1612 01:07:43,494 --> 01:07:45,626 LAURI LOVE: There are attempts to understand 1613 01:07:45,757 --> 01:07:48,629 in the traditional economic, government, 1614 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,153 legal frameworks, what is this? 1615 01:07:50,283 --> 01:07:52,024 --then some of them lookkind of like currencies. 1616 01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:53,243 Is it a currency? 1617 01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:54,287 Is it an asset? 1618 01:07:54,418 --> 01:07:55,462 Maybe that's a commodity. 1619 01:07:55,593 --> 01:07:57,334 Do you pay capital gains on it? 1620 01:07:57,464 --> 01:08:00,206 And how can we stop thethings that we don't like? 1621 01:08:00,337 --> 01:08:02,948 But fraudulent tokens don't help people. 1622 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:04,819 NARRATOR: It's clear that whether or not 1623 01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:07,605 one believes in the validityof blockchain technology, 1624 01:08:07,735 --> 01:08:11,391 it faces many obstacles, andquestions remain unanswered. 1625 01:08:11,522 --> 01:08:13,045 Will blockchain really help solve some 1626 01:08:13,176 --> 01:08:14,742 of our most pressing issues? 1627 01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:17,789 Will cryptocurrency survivetheir inevitable regulation? 1628 01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:19,791 It's still too early to know for certain, 1629 01:08:19,921 --> 01:08:24,100 but that's not stopping anyonefrom forming an opinion. 1630 01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:27,233 MAN: We have these criteria fordetermining what a bubble is. 1631 01:08:27,364 --> 01:08:28,408 Bitcoin is a bubble. 1632 01:08:28,539 --> 01:08:29,496 It's certainly a bubble. 1633 01:08:29,627 --> 01:08:30,454 But is it a bubble? 1634 01:08:30,584 --> 01:08:31,585 Bring up the chart here. 1635 01:08:31,716 --> 01:08:32,891 Here's the bubble in the making. 1636 01:08:33,021 --> 01:08:34,632 WOMAN: We could be in a bubble. 1637 01:08:34,762 --> 01:08:36,024 MAN: I think it looks like abubble, smells like a bubble, 1638 01:08:36,155 --> 01:08:37,243 acts like a bubble, and feels like a bubble. 1639 01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:37,896 Bubble. 1640 01:08:38,026 --> 01:08:38,418 MAN: Bubble. 1641 01:08:38,549 --> 01:08:39,158 Bubble. 1642 01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:39,680 It is a bubble. 1643 01:08:39,811 --> 01:08:40,333 Bubble. 1644 01:08:40,464 --> 01:08:40,855 Bubbles. 1645 01:08:40,986 --> 01:08:41,552 Bubble. 1646 01:08:41,682 --> 01:08:42,248 WOMAN: Bubble. 1647 01:08:42,379 --> 01:08:42,901 MAN: Bubble. 1648 01:08:43,031 --> 01:08:43,597 MAN: Bubble. 1649 01:08:43,728 --> 01:08:44,511 WOMAN: Bubble. 1650 01:08:44,642 --> 01:08:45,947 MAN: Clearly a bubble. 1651 01:08:46,078 --> 01:08:47,384 MAN: The tulip bubble is the first and largest. 1652 01:08:47,514 --> 01:08:48,907 Bitcoin has now supplantedthat as the largest 1653 01:08:49,037 --> 01:08:50,387 financial speculativeepisode in human history. 1654 01:08:50,517 --> 01:08:55,957 My name is Mr. Bubble,and you can watch me pop. 1655 01:08:56,088 --> 01:08:58,351 MATTHEW GREEN: Now, the questionis how much of that value 1656 01:08:58,482 --> 01:08:59,570 is going to stick around. 1657 01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:00,788 If there's a correction, will people 1658 01:09:00,919 --> 01:09:02,486 run off and find other things to do? 1659 01:09:02,616 --> 01:09:04,357 It's not really clear what's going to happen. 1660 01:09:04,488 --> 01:09:06,664 But I think a lot of thisstuff is going to go away. 1661 01:09:06,794 --> 01:09:08,796 There's going to be a lot of wreckage. 1662 01:09:08,927 --> 01:09:13,105 In the '90s, we suddenly had theordinary person start getting 1663 01:09:13,236 --> 01:09:15,803 access to the web, and allof these new technologies 1664 01:09:15,934 --> 01:09:17,414 and new companies popped up. 1665 01:09:17,544 --> 01:09:19,894 REPORTER: For the customer,Amazon only exists 1666 01:09:20,025 --> 01:09:21,244 on the computer screen. 1667 01:09:21,374 --> 01:09:24,247 And then there's the boss, Jeff Bezos. 1668 01:09:24,377 --> 01:09:25,335 What kind of kid were you? 1669 01:09:25,465 --> 01:09:26,727 I was nerdy. 1670 01:09:26,858 --> 01:09:28,120 That hasn't changed, by the way. 1671 01:09:28,251 --> 01:09:29,991 [chuckles] 1672 01:09:30,122 --> 01:09:32,037 REPORTER: Maybe it was his intensity, 1673 01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,648 or maybe it was the way he talks. 1674 01:09:34,779 --> 01:09:37,782 Listen to the way he describeshis company's business plan. 1675 01:09:37,912 --> 01:09:41,568 We believe that this is acritical category formation 1676 01:09:41,699 --> 01:09:43,179 time. 1677 01:09:43,309 --> 01:09:44,745 MATTHEW GREEN: And everyonekind of overestimated. 1678 01:09:44,876 --> 01:09:46,791 They said, well, the internet'sgoing to be the future. 1679 01:09:46,921 --> 01:09:48,532 We're all going to bedoing all of our shopping 1680 01:09:48,662 --> 01:09:50,925 and all of our communicationover the internet by tomorrow. 1681 01:09:51,056 --> 01:09:55,887 REPORTER: If you'd bought $1,000worth of Amazon stock in 1997, 1682 01:09:56,017 --> 01:09:59,978 it would be worth between$30,000 and $60,000 today. 1683 01:10:00,108 --> 01:10:03,242 Is this investing, or is it gambling? 1684 01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:05,810 Right now, with the frenzy we've had, 1685 01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:08,116 to me it feels much more like gambling. 1686 01:10:08,247 --> 01:10:09,466 Because it's crazy. 1687 01:10:09,596 --> 01:10:10,989 Well, I don't find it rational, 1688 01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:12,251 to be honest with you. 1689 01:10:12,382 --> 01:10:14,775 It went up almost 1,000% last year. 1690 01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:16,386 When have you seen anything comparable? 1691 01:10:16,516 --> 01:10:17,909 MAN: Nothing. 1692 01:10:18,039 --> 01:10:19,476 MATTHEW GREEN: And so allthese companies arrived, 1693 01:10:19,606 --> 01:10:21,434 and of course, immediately,there was a huge bubble. 1694 01:10:21,565 --> 01:10:24,611 Has the 1990s boomshattered old assumptions 1695 01:10:24,742 --> 01:10:25,960 about how the economy works? 1696 01:10:26,091 --> 01:10:27,962 REPORTER: But investors keep flooding in. 1697 01:10:28,093 --> 01:10:29,442 MAN: It's not going to stop. 1698 01:10:29,573 --> 01:10:31,705 But what you could have is a decline 1699 01:10:31,836 --> 01:10:33,011 in these stocks of 50%, 75%. 1700 01:10:33,141 --> 01:10:35,231 [bell ringing] 1701 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,887 REPORTER: Closing bell mightas well have been an alarm, 1702 01:10:40,018 --> 01:10:41,411 so savage was the selling. 1703 01:10:41,541 --> 01:10:44,414 A points drop never beforeseen on the US market. 1704 01:10:44,544 --> 01:10:47,591 MATTHEW GREEN: And 90% ofthem, 95% of them all failed. 1705 01:10:47,721 --> 01:10:49,201 Looks like the bubble burst. 1706 01:10:49,332 --> 01:10:50,768 BART SIMPSON: Bubbles can burst? 1707 01:10:50,898 --> 01:10:52,770 MATTHEW GREEN: But thething about that, obviously, 1708 01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:55,512 is that it didn't end up thatthe internet was worthless. 1709 01:10:55,642 --> 01:10:57,122 We are doing our shopping online. 1710 01:10:57,253 --> 01:10:59,167 REPORTER: And it's gettingreally nasty out there, 1711 01:10:59,298 --> 01:11:00,473 it seems to me. 1712 01:11:00,604 --> 01:11:02,693 The Barnes & Noble bookstore is so big, 1713 01:11:02,823 --> 01:11:06,523 it makes Amazon.com look tiny. 1714 01:11:06,653 --> 01:11:08,220 MATTHEW GREEN: It just took a little bit 1715 01:11:08,351 --> 01:11:10,570 longer than the people whohad originally visualized 1716 01:11:10,701 --> 01:11:13,660 this thought it would, and maybethere was a little exuberance, 1717 01:11:13,791 --> 01:11:15,619 and so now we're seeing that actually happen. 1718 01:11:15,749 --> 01:11:16,924 Yeah. 1719 01:11:17,055 --> 01:11:18,622 I have a word that I use to describe 1720 01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:20,885 the tendency of markets tobecome bubbles and pop and then 1721 01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:22,452 become bubbles again. 1722 01:11:22,582 --> 01:11:23,975 The word that I use todescribe that is capitalism. 1723 01:11:24,105 --> 01:11:25,672 They're all in business to make profit. 1724 01:11:25,803 --> 01:11:27,979 Of course they make a profit. 1725 01:11:28,109 --> 01:11:29,981 And it's a good thing. 1726 01:11:30,111 --> 01:11:31,983 That's the incentive thatmakes capitalism work. 1727 01:11:32,113 --> 01:11:34,159 [atmospheric music] 1728 01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,074 NARRATOR: As cryptocurrencyvalues continue 1729 01:11:36,204 --> 01:11:38,294 to soar to unprecedented heights, 1730 01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:41,166 there's widespread speculationabout the future of blockchain 1731 01:11:41,297 --> 01:11:42,733 technology. 1732 01:11:42,863 --> 01:11:45,126 The opinions are sohyperbolic and contradictory, 1733 01:11:45,257 --> 01:11:50,697 it becomes almost impossibleto parse fact from fiction. 1734 01:11:50,828 --> 01:11:54,048 VINAY GUPTA: So you get upto kind of where we are now. 1735 01:11:54,179 --> 01:11:56,268 We're sort of midway through the process. 1736 01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,053 Bitcoin is well-establishedas a reality. 1737 01:11:59,184 --> 01:12:01,491 Everybody's comfortable with Bitcoin's existence 1738 01:12:01,621 --> 01:12:02,622 to some degree. 1739 01:12:02,753 --> 01:12:04,320 What is it? 1740 01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:08,236 It's a bank account that storesmagic internet money that 1741 01:12:08,367 --> 01:12:10,326 comes from the centralbank of the internet, which 1742 01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:11,892 is a decentralized database which is everywhere 1743 01:12:12,023 --> 01:12:13,677 and nowhere maintained by a bunch of people 1744 01:12:13,807 --> 01:12:14,721 you don't understand. 1745 01:12:14,852 --> 01:12:16,767 [chuckling] 1746 01:12:16,897 --> 01:12:18,682 But the funny thing is that if I describe 1747 01:12:18,812 --> 01:12:23,774 to you how your governmentworks, it's even worse. 1748 01:12:23,904 --> 01:12:29,562 So every four years, we hold apopularity contest regionally. 1749 01:12:29,693 --> 01:12:32,348 We pick the person that ismost likable on television, 1750 01:12:32,478 --> 01:12:34,480 more or less regardless of their values. 1751 01:12:34,611 --> 01:12:36,134 We know nothing about them, so they could 1752 01:12:36,264 --> 01:12:37,744 be a person playing a role. 1753 01:12:37,875 --> 01:12:39,137 And then we assemble these people 1754 01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:41,008 into large groups that get to decide who lives 1755 01:12:41,139 --> 01:12:43,794 and who dies every day. 1756 01:12:43,924 --> 01:12:46,579 So don't assume that becausethe new stuff is weird, 1757 01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:48,712 it's any weirder than the old stuff. 1758 01:12:48,842 --> 01:12:50,931 The old stuff is just weirdstuff you got used to. 1759 01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:53,325 [crescendo] 1760 01:12:58,635 --> 01:13:00,288 REPORTER: How do you respond in broad terms 1761 01:13:00,419 --> 01:13:02,421 to these accusations? 1762 01:13:02,552 --> 01:13:03,857 LAURI LOVE: It's difficult to face 1763 01:13:03,988 --> 01:13:05,642 very serious allegations for three years 1764 01:13:05,772 --> 01:13:07,905 and not have any due process. 1765 01:13:08,035 --> 01:13:10,081 The issue is, if I were tobe extradited to America, 1766 01:13:10,211 --> 01:13:11,996 there'd be no day in court. 1767 01:13:12,126 --> 01:13:16,957 REPORTER: Can you get your headround this figure of 99 years? 1768 01:13:17,088 --> 01:13:18,698 LAURI LOVE: There's very poor conditions 1769 01:13:18,829 --> 01:13:21,005 in US prisons for people withmental health difficulties. 1770 01:13:21,135 --> 01:13:26,314 I think that I would be atrisk of dying, unfortunately. 1771 01:13:26,445 --> 01:13:28,360 REPORTER: That's a seriousfear for you, isn't it? 1772 01:13:32,364 --> 01:13:34,061 Do you have any steer from your legal team 1773 01:13:34,192 --> 01:13:36,063 about what the outcome ofthe extradition hearing 1774 01:13:36,194 --> 01:13:38,326 is going to be? 1775 01:13:38,457 --> 01:13:40,503 LAURI LOVE: I would hopethat the judge has enough 1776 01:13:40,633 --> 01:13:43,114 to make the correct decisionto refuse the extradition. 1777 01:13:43,244 --> 01:13:46,030 [ominous music] 1778 01:13:47,118 --> 01:13:49,425 [disco music] 1779 01:13:49,555 --> 01:13:52,340 [cheering] 1780 01:13:55,387 --> 01:13:56,693 CROWD: [CHANTING] Lauri! 1781 01:13:56,823 --> 01:13:57,694 Lauri! 1782 01:13:57,824 --> 01:13:58,695 Lauri! 1783 01:13:58,825 --> 01:14:00,044 Lauri! 1784 01:14:00,174 --> 01:14:02,438 TOR EKELAND: Who's the next Aaron Swartz? 1785 01:14:02,568 --> 01:14:04,962 Who's the next Lauri Love? 1786 01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:09,009 The ones who sincerely wantinformation to be free. 1787 01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:11,708 In a certain sense, the more things change, 1788 01:14:11,838 --> 01:14:14,450 the more things stay the same. 1789 01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:16,060 NARRATOR: The battle lines are drawn 1790 01:14:16,190 --> 01:14:18,366 between the fight fordecentralization and internet 1791 01:14:18,497 --> 01:14:22,153 freedom and centralized systemsand institutional control 1792 01:14:22,283 --> 01:14:26,070 with no clear path forward. 1793 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:27,985 VINAY GUPTA: Right now, there's no way 1794 01:14:28,115 --> 01:14:30,161 of figuring out how everything in the world 1795 01:14:30,291 --> 01:14:33,773 works without having some kindof centralized governance. 1796 01:14:33,904 --> 01:14:36,210 The question is whethercentralization of functions 1797 01:14:36,341 --> 01:14:38,561 turns into centralization of power. 1798 01:14:38,691 --> 01:14:40,737 The unfortunate truth isthat centralization is often 1799 01:14:40,867 --> 01:14:41,912 very efficient. 1800 01:14:42,042 --> 01:14:43,783 And often, what centralization does 1801 01:14:43,914 --> 01:14:47,961 is it pulls people up beyondwhat they would do otherwise. 1802 01:14:48,092 --> 01:14:50,224 But what blockchain provides is a way 1803 01:14:50,355 --> 01:14:53,706 of getting hundreds ofmillions of individual actors-- 1804 01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:55,752 whether they're people, companies, agencies, 1805 01:14:55,882 --> 01:14:59,190 charities-- all to cooperateon the same global databases 1806 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,801 without requiring there tobe a centralized authority, 1807 01:15:01,932 --> 01:15:04,717 and that is more or less unprecedented. 1808 01:15:04,848 --> 01:15:06,284 It's a technology that changes the way 1809 01:15:06,414 --> 01:15:07,894 that we govern ourselves. 1810 01:15:08,025 --> 01:15:09,592 And the hope is that the blockchain 1811 01:15:09,722 --> 01:15:12,856 will allow people to run their lives in a way 1812 01:15:12,986 --> 01:15:15,075 where they're not constantlybeholden to bureaucracies 1813 01:15:15,206 --> 01:15:15,859 or monopolies. 1814 01:15:18,688 --> 01:15:20,254 If we've got a fair world in which we 1815 01:15:20,385 --> 01:15:22,126 have a genuine accountability, where 1816 01:15:22,256 --> 01:15:23,954 we can see who the bad actors are, 1817 01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:25,433 everybody can see what's happening, 1818 01:15:25,564 --> 01:15:27,435 and everybody is responsible, this 1819 01:15:27,566 --> 01:15:29,525 will produce a better world. 1820 01:15:29,655 --> 01:15:31,222 But if you get decentralization where 1821 01:15:31,352 --> 01:15:34,181 nobody can see what's goingon and nobody is responsible, 1822 01:15:34,312 --> 01:15:35,879 you've got a worse world. 1823 01:15:36,009 --> 01:15:37,924 So we've got to thinkreally carefully about what 1824 01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:39,273 it is we're trying to stop. 1825 01:15:39,404 --> 01:15:40,710 And what we're trying to stop is simple. 1826 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,017 We're trying to stop the abuse of power. 1827 01:15:44,148 --> 01:15:46,803 This is the second part ofthe decentralization story. 1828 01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:48,195 And the world is changing. 1829 01:15:51,198 --> 01:15:53,505 NARRATOR: Lauri must now waitfor the High Court's decision 1830 01:15:53,636 --> 01:15:56,116 on his appeal that wouldallow him to avoid extradition 1831 01:15:56,247 --> 01:15:58,858 to the United Stateswith no guarantee of when 1832 01:15:58,989 --> 01:16:01,469 that word will come. 1833 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,429 And at the same time, themarket value of Bitcoin 1834 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,519 and other cryptocurrenciescontinues to soar, 1835 01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:09,652 fueling both the evangelists-- 1836 01:16:09,782 --> 01:16:11,915 You think we have volume in Bitcoin now? 1837 01:16:12,045 --> 01:16:13,481 [chuckles] 1838 01:16:13,612 --> 01:16:15,266 NARRATOR: --and naysayers. 1839 01:16:15,396 --> 01:16:18,138 There is all this hype aboutblockchain, saying, OK, maybe 1840 01:16:18,269 --> 01:16:21,011 Bitcoin and cryptocurrenciesare a bubble or a fad, 1841 01:16:21,141 --> 01:16:23,709 but blockchain is reallya revolutionary industry. 1842 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,319 It's been around for 10 years. 1843 01:16:25,450 --> 01:16:27,539 The only application, just a bunch 1844 01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:29,149 of cryptocurrencies that are a scam. 1845 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,803 MAN: --markets I've ever seen. 1846 01:16:30,934 --> 01:16:34,677 MAN: --and this is just abubble, as several of your-- 1847 01:16:34,807 --> 01:16:37,593 ALEX: So where is this all going, John? 1848 01:16:37,723 --> 01:16:40,726 It's still an experiment in process. 1849 01:16:40,857 --> 01:16:42,989 I think we're going to see a lot of motion 1850 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,730 in different directions. 1851 01:16:44,861 --> 01:16:48,821 We're going to see evolution,and chaos, and an arms race. 1852 01:16:48,952 --> 01:16:52,477 Some governments will try to co-opt them. 1853 01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:56,220 Others will fight it tooth and nail. 1854 01:16:56,350 --> 01:16:57,830 BILL TAI: You can feel the energy. 1855 01:16:57,961 --> 01:17:00,050 The internet and decentralization, 1856 01:17:00,180 --> 01:17:02,530 and the ability forinformation to flow freely 1857 01:17:02,661 --> 01:17:04,750 across communities, is redefining things 1858 01:17:04,881 --> 01:17:07,492 because you present a fabricwhere everybody knows what's 1859 01:17:07,623 --> 01:17:09,886 going on if they want to. 1860 01:17:10,016 --> 01:17:11,975 IMOGEN HEAP: The future,it needs to be transparent, 1861 01:17:12,105 --> 01:17:13,933 it needs to be fair. 1862 01:17:14,064 --> 01:17:15,848 We're in a global time. 1863 01:17:15,979 --> 01:17:17,894 But the systems aren't really coping very well 1864 01:17:18,024 --> 01:17:20,418 with this phenomena. 1865 01:17:20,548 --> 01:17:22,594 We have to reinvent ourselves. 1866 01:17:22,725 --> 01:17:24,161 VINAY GUPTA: In this kind of field, 1867 01:17:24,291 --> 01:17:26,250 there's always going to bepeople trying to innovate 1868 01:17:26,380 --> 01:17:27,947 and people trying to standardize. 1869 01:17:28,078 --> 01:17:29,688 And the struggle between theinnovators and the standards 1870 01:17:29,819 --> 01:17:31,342 people is always going to be there. 1871 01:17:31,472 --> 01:17:32,691 But if you can't innovate, you're 1872 01:17:32,822 --> 01:17:34,214 rolling backwards every day. 1873 01:17:34,345 --> 01:17:36,739 The blockchain has existedfive years ago today, 1874 01:17:36,869 --> 01:17:39,263 and in five years, will bethree completely different 1875 01:17:39,393 --> 01:17:42,875 generations of technology withtotally different capabilities. 1876 01:17:43,006 --> 01:17:45,399 LAURA SHIN: Here we have thistechnology that is really 1877 01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:47,488 all about decentralization. 1878 01:17:47,619 --> 01:17:50,666 But will we end up with thisdecentralized blockchain world? 1879 01:17:50,796 --> 01:17:52,493 Whether or not that will actually pan out 1880 01:17:52,624 --> 01:17:55,018 is a big question. 1881 01:17:55,148 --> 01:17:56,759 CHRIS FABIAN: Humanity always finds a way 1882 01:17:56,889 --> 01:17:58,804 to revert to its lowestcommon denominator, which 1883 01:17:58,935 --> 01:18:01,459 is kind of greedy, and nasty, and fierce. 1884 01:18:01,589 --> 01:18:04,288 But when we were all on theinternet at the very beginning, 1885 01:18:04,418 --> 01:18:05,942 that was amazing, and there was a moment 1886 01:18:06,072 --> 01:18:07,987 where that thing was real, and pretty pure, 1887 01:18:08,118 --> 01:18:10,337 and wasn't co-opted. 1888 01:18:10,468 --> 01:18:12,775 I think we have that same thingin the space of blockchain 1889 01:18:12,905 --> 01:18:15,168 technology in general. 1890 01:18:15,299 --> 01:18:16,692 At least for a moment, I think we can 1891 01:18:16,822 --> 01:18:20,086 use it to do something good. 1892 01:18:20,217 --> 01:18:22,523 NARRATOR: As many predicted,the cryptocurrency market 1893 01:18:22,654 --> 01:18:26,484 pops, losing over half thevalue of 2017's all-time high, 1894 01:18:26,614 --> 01:18:30,749 with Bitcoin plummeting from$20,000 to below $7,000. 1895 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,012 While many abandon ship, the true believers 1896 01:18:33,143 --> 01:18:35,014 hold course, firm in their resolve 1897 01:18:35,145 --> 01:18:37,016 that there's a future in blockchain technology. 1898 01:18:37,147 --> 01:18:38,801 MELISSA LEE [ON TV]: The Bitcoin bloodbath 1899 01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:41,629 continues as the cryptocurrencycollapses to a critical level. 1900 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,327 How bad could the carnage get? 1901 01:18:43,457 --> 01:18:45,590 Our Bob Pisani's at the NYSE with the latest. 1902 01:18:45,721 --> 01:18:47,244 Hi, Bob. 1903 01:18:47,374 --> 01:18:48,724 BOB PISANI [ON TV]: Oh, thecharts are ugly, Melissa. 1904 01:18:48,854 --> 01:18:50,377 It was another rough day for Bitcoin, 1905 01:18:50,508 --> 01:18:52,031 which has gone on a complete round 1906 01:18:52,162 --> 01:18:55,165 trip from a little over$9,000 at the end of November 1907 01:18:55,295 --> 01:18:57,689 to $20,000 in mid-December--remember that-- and all the way 1908 01:18:57,820 --> 01:18:59,386 back down. 1909 01:18:59,517 --> 01:19:01,258 This is what technicians calla head and shoulders pop, 1910 01:19:01,388 --> 01:19:04,000 and it's a very negative-- 1911 01:19:04,130 --> 01:19:06,002 J. CHRISTOPHER GIANCARLO:I'm the father of three 1912 01:19:06,132 --> 01:19:07,743 college-aged children-- 1913 01:19:07,873 --> 01:19:10,789 a senior, a junior, and a freshman. 1914 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,443 During their high school years, we 1915 01:19:12,573 --> 01:19:14,619 tried to interest them in financial markets. 1916 01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:16,969 We haven't been able to piquetheir interest in the stock 1917 01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:18,144 market. 1918 01:19:18,275 --> 01:19:19,537 I guess they're not much different 1919 01:19:19,667 --> 01:19:21,495 than most kids their age. 1920 01:19:21,626 --> 01:19:24,194 Well, something changed in the last year. 1921 01:19:24,324 --> 01:19:27,153 Suddenly, they were all talking about Bitcoin. 1922 01:19:27,284 --> 01:19:28,589 They were asking me what I thought, 1923 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,461 and should they buy it? 1924 01:19:30,591 --> 01:19:33,290 One of their oldercousins, who owns Bitcoin, 1925 01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:35,814 was telling them about itand they got all excited. 1926 01:19:35,945 --> 01:19:37,903 And I imagined that maybemembers of this committee 1927 01:19:38,034 --> 01:19:40,079 may have had some similar experiences 1928 01:19:40,210 --> 01:19:42,429 in your own families of late. 1929 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,085 It strikes me that we oweit to this new generation 1930 01:19:46,216 --> 01:19:49,436 to respect their enthusiasmabout virtual currencies 1931 01:19:49,567 --> 01:19:53,658 with a thoughtful and balancedresponse, not a dismissive one. 1932 01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:58,010 My 30-year-old niece, whobought Bitcoin years ago, 1933 01:19:58,141 --> 01:20:00,230 and she's an HODL, shesays, I'm going to own it. 1934 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:01,884 I don't know what's going to come of it, 1935 01:20:02,014 --> 01:20:03,320 but I want to hang onto it. 1936 01:20:03,450 --> 01:20:05,104 And she's not a fraudsteror a manipulator. 1937 01:20:05,235 --> 01:20:07,759 She's just a kid, and believes in it. 1938 01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:10,153 And I was fascinated talking to her. 1939 01:20:10,283 --> 01:20:12,329 And I think she representsa lot of folks that think, 1940 01:20:12,459 --> 01:20:13,939 there's something in this. 1941 01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:15,549 I want to hold on to it. 1942 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,509 [traffic rumbling] 1943 01:20:28,084 --> 01:20:30,869 [atmospheric music] 1944 01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:35,352 [applause and cheering] 1945 01:20:39,486 --> 01:20:41,924 REPORTER: How do you feel? 1946 01:20:42,054 --> 01:20:45,449 We're very happy and relieved, and we're 1947 01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,017 very thankful for the HighCourt, for the judges, 1948 01:20:48,147 --> 01:20:49,670 for their wisdom and discernment. 1949 01:20:49,801 --> 01:20:51,934 I'm thankful for all of the support 1950 01:20:52,064 --> 01:20:54,458 that we've had without which I'mnot sure I would have made it 1951 01:20:54,588 --> 01:20:54,937 this far. 1952 01:20:58,027 --> 01:20:59,680 This decision obviously affects my life. 1953 01:20:59,811 --> 01:21:01,726 But the reason that I've gone through this ordeal 1954 01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:05,904 is not just to save myself frombeing kidnapped and locked up 1955 01:21:06,035 --> 01:21:07,993 for 99 years in a countryI've never visited, 1956 01:21:08,124 --> 01:21:10,474 but it's to set a precedentwhereby this will not happen 1957 01:21:10,604 --> 01:21:13,694 to other people in the future. 1958 01:21:13,825 --> 01:21:15,958 You know, as we saw with theearlier part of the story 1959 01:21:16,088 --> 01:21:18,438 about the internet in general, it was great, 1960 01:21:18,569 --> 01:21:21,311 and people who make a lot of money 1961 01:21:21,441 --> 01:21:23,661 from things not being greatcame over, and took it over, 1962 01:21:23,791 --> 01:21:26,925 and recentralized it, andmonetized it, and it was bad. 1963 01:21:29,928 --> 01:21:31,930 The mathematics is on our side. 1964 01:21:32,061 --> 01:21:36,239 What's not on our side is human nature. 1965 01:21:36,369 --> 01:21:39,895 You can be bound by the system,or you can mold the system 1966 01:21:40,025 --> 01:21:41,505 and change it. 1967 01:21:41,635 --> 01:21:44,943 And it's incumbent upon usto embrace the accelerated 1968 01:21:45,074 --> 01:21:52,211 pace of change, because powerand institutions have inertia. 1969 01:21:52,342 --> 01:21:53,734 They will use the new technologies 1970 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:57,216 once they understand themto solidify their power. 1971 01:21:57,347 --> 01:21:59,001 But if the internet allows people 1972 01:21:59,131 --> 01:22:01,699 to reach their full potentialwith cryptography, with Bitcoin 1973 01:22:01,829 --> 01:22:05,442 and blockchain, then we'll win. 1974 01:22:05,572 --> 01:22:07,835 [upbeat electronic music] 1975 01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:15,626 One, two! 1976 01:22:15,756 --> 01:22:16,844 One, two, three, hey! 1977 01:22:20,544 --> 01:22:21,327 Hi, Alex! 1978 01:22:21,458 --> 01:22:22,763 Hi, Alex! 1979 01:22:22,894 --> 01:22:23,721 We're celebrating not getting extradited! 1980 01:22:23,851 --> 01:22:26,463 [laughs] 149355

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