All language subtitles for Once in a Lifetime

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch Download
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
ne Nepali
no Norwegian
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt Portuguese
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
te Telugu
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,208 --> 00:00:20,917 Excuse my breath. 2 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,458 I just ran out here to, bring you this news. 3 00:00:23,542 --> 00:00:24,959 The President of the United States 4 00:00:25,041 --> 00:00:27,417 has terminated the director of the FBI, 5 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:29,125 James Comey. 6 00:00:29,208 --> 00:00:32,291 As we get more here, we'll bring it to you, 7 00:00:32,375 --> 00:00:34,583 but at this point, a bombshell at the White House. 8 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,125 James Comey is out. 9 00:00:38,375 --> 00:00:39,875 Well, we've been watching as James Comey 10 00:00:39,959 --> 00:00:41,458 got off with his motorcade, making his way 11 00:00:41,542 --> 00:00:43,917 from the Westwood offices of the FBI. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,917 He got the information this afternoon 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,500 that he has been relieved of his duties. 14 00:00:47,583 --> 00:00:51,500 Comey would become only the second FBI director 15 00:00:51,583 --> 00:00:53,458 in the history of the bureau to be fired. 16 00:00:53,542 --> 00:00:55,750 I just spoke to a senior official a short time ago 17 00:00:55,834 --> 00:00:58,208 who said they had no idea this was happening. 18 00:00:58,291 --> 00:01:00,291 The other major complicating factor here 19 00:01:00,375 --> 00:01:02,166 is the fact that the FBI 20 00:01:02,250 --> 00:01:04,750 is investigating any possible collusion 21 00:01:04,834 --> 00:01:07,000 between members of the Trump campaign team 22 00:01:07,083 --> 00:01:10,333 and Russia, and now the head of the FBI has been fired. 23 00:01:10,417 --> 00:01:12,625 I found out through The New York Times, 24 00:01:12,709 --> 00:01:14,166 getting an alert on my phone. 25 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:15,959 I remember thinking, 26 00:01:16,041 --> 00:01:17,125 you know, "Has my phone been hacked? 27 00:01:17,208 --> 00:01:18,625 Is this a joke?" 28 00:01:18,709 --> 00:01:20,417 James. 29 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:22,208 The idea that the president would fire 30 00:01:22,291 --> 00:01:23,959 an FBI director, 31 00:01:24,041 --> 00:01:25,542 middle of the Russia investigation, 32 00:01:25,625 --> 00:01:27,208 is unthinkable. 33 00:01:29,417 --> 00:01:31,667 This was a target of an FBI investigation 34 00:01:31,750 --> 00:01:35,250 trying to choose the person who was investigating them. 35 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:37,458 And what kind of constitutional problem 36 00:01:37,542 --> 00:01:38,667 does that present? 37 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:40,792 A huge one. 38 00:01:40,875 --> 00:01:43,208 I think everyone realized that we were 39 00:01:43,291 --> 00:01:46,000 coming into unprecedented political territory. 40 00:01:47,792 --> 00:01:49,834 Comey's got the FBI Gulfstream plane 41 00:01:49,917 --> 00:01:51,750 out there in Los Angeles. 42 00:01:51,834 --> 00:01:53,542 There's an O.J. moment 43 00:01:53,625 --> 00:01:55,083 where you've got a helicopter 44 00:01:55,166 --> 00:01:57,250 following this plane down the tarmac. 45 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:01,667 Comey gets into the plane and settles back, 46 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:06,375 uncorks some red wine, pours it into a paper cup, 47 00:02:06,458 --> 00:02:07,917 looks down over the United States 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,959 as evening settles in, 49 00:02:10,041 --> 00:02:14,125 thinking, "What the hell just happened?" 50 00:02:37,959 --> 00:02:38,834 I, Ronald Reagan... 51 00:02:38,917 --> 00:02:40,500 William Jefferson Clinton... 52 00:02:40,583 --> 00:02:41,792 Do solemnly swear... 53 00:02:41,875 --> 00:02:42,667 Do solemnly swear... 54 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:48,000 ...and will, to the best of my ability... 55 00:02:48,083 --> 00:02:49,834 ...preserve, protect, and defend... 56 00:02:49,917 --> 00:02:53,041 ...the Constitution of the United States. 57 00:03:19,417 --> 00:03:21,083 I know that when you were fired, 58 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:22,875 you say in the book that, when-- 59 00:03:22,959 --> 00:03:24,500 when it was over, you, 60 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:26,500 flew back on a plane to the East Coast... 61 00:03:26,583 --> 00:03:28,875 Drinking Pinot Noir 62 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:31,583 out of a paper cup, so I thought maybe 63 00:03:31,667 --> 00:03:34,208 we could re-create that happy moment for you right now. 64 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:38,667 - To the truth. - Yes, to the truth. 65 00:03:41,709 --> 00:03:43,959 Breaking news tonight: we have our first look 66 00:03:44,041 --> 00:03:47,208 at fired FBI director James Comey's much-anticipated 67 00:03:47,291 --> 00:03:49,375 tell-all book, 68 00:03:49,458 --> 00:03:51,166 a window into his interactions with President Trump. 69 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:53,333 James Comey starts a media tour 70 00:03:53,417 --> 00:03:55,083 to promote his new book. 71 00:03:55,166 --> 00:03:56,834 Our guest tonight is James Comey. 72 00:03:56,917 --> 00:03:58,917 ...former FBI director, James Comey. 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,083 James Comey. 74 00:04:04,417 --> 00:04:06,458 It's all right, y'all. It's all right. 75 00:04:06,542 --> 00:04:07,959 Our president must 76 00:04:08,041 --> 00:04:09,250 adhere to the values 77 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:10,500 that are the core of this country, 78 00:04:10,583 --> 00:04:12,333 the most important being truth. 79 00:04:12,417 --> 00:04:14,542 This president is not able to do that. 80 00:04:14,625 --> 00:04:16,542 He is morally unfit to be president. 81 00:04:16,625 --> 00:04:19,500 Comey holds little back. It is a scathing indictment. 82 00:04:19,583 --> 00:04:22,750 This president is "untethered to truth 83 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:25,000 and institutional values," Comey writes. 84 00:04:25,083 --> 00:04:26,625 "His leadership 85 00:04:26,709 --> 00:04:29,166 is transactional, ego-driven"... 86 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:31,458 ..."and about personal loyalty. 87 00:04:31,542 --> 00:04:34,834 I'm writing at a time of great anxiety in my country. 88 00:04:34,917 --> 00:04:36,834 I understand the anxiety. 89 00:04:36,917 --> 00:04:38,625 Donald Trump's presidency threatens 90 00:04:38,709 --> 00:04:41,250 much of what is good in this nation." 91 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:42,875 A lot of people 92 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:44,625 were suspicious of Jim 93 00:04:44,709 --> 00:04:46,917 as a moralistic, 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,458 pious showboater. 95 00:04:49,542 --> 00:04:51,583 This is nothing more than a poorly executed 96 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,750 PR stunt by Comey to desperately rehabilitate 97 00:04:54,834 --> 00:04:56,709 his tattered reputation. -Sarah? 98 00:04:56,792 --> 00:05:00,125 There's a lot of room for disagreement about that. 99 00:05:00,208 --> 00:05:04,208 He is raising a moral and political and legal alarm... 100 00:05:04,291 --> 00:05:05,583 Right. -About the health 101 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:07,458 of our institutions-- 102 00:05:07,542 --> 00:05:09,750 about the effect of our president on them. 103 00:05:09,834 --> 00:05:12,041 Do you think people tied to President Trump 104 00:05:12,125 --> 00:05:13,375 colluded with the Russians? 105 00:05:13,458 --> 00:05:15,625 "I don't know" is the honest answer. 106 00:05:15,709 --> 00:05:18,083 This is a big mistake, this book! 107 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,667 There is no collusion with me-- 108 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:21,417 All right. -And Russia! 109 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:22,667 And our Justice Department, 110 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:24,500 they have this witch hunt... 111 00:05:24,583 --> 00:05:27,667 Trump is trying to muddy the legitimacy 112 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:30,417 of Bob Mueller's Russia investigation, 113 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:32,625 and to turn this into 114 00:05:32,709 --> 00:05:35,333 the public appearance of a partisan witch hunt. 115 00:05:35,417 --> 00:05:37,625 One of the biggest political witch hunts in the history 116 00:05:37,709 --> 00:05:39,917 of this country. 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,625 Robert Mueller is on a Jihad of some sort. 118 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:45,041 "Mr. Mueller, end the witch hunt." 119 00:05:57,208 --> 00:05:59,917 "I don't know whether the special counsel will find 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,458 criminal wrongdoing by the president 121 00:06:01,542 --> 00:06:03,083 or others who have not been charged 122 00:06:03,166 --> 00:06:04,875 as of this writing. 123 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:06,750 One of the pivotal questions 124 00:06:06,834 --> 00:06:08,834 I presume Bob Mueller's team is investigating 125 00:06:08,917 --> 00:06:11,333 is whether or not, in firing me, 126 00:06:11,417 --> 00:06:13,417 President Trump was attempting to obstruct justice, 127 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,875 which is a federal crime. 128 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:18,875 I've prosecuted and overseen many cases 129 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:21,291 involving obstruction of justice, 130 00:06:21,375 --> 00:06:23,417 but in this case, I'm a witness." 131 00:06:26,166 --> 00:06:28,083 Comey and Mueller are confronting 132 00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:30,875 the most powerful man on the face of the Earth 133 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:34,125 in the most politically charged 134 00:06:34,208 --> 00:06:37,291 investigation of a president 135 00:06:37,375 --> 00:06:38,959 in American history. 136 00:06:39,041 --> 00:06:42,083 These guys aren't pals. 137 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:43,458 But they are allies. 138 00:06:43,542 --> 00:06:45,458 They have worked together with great effect 139 00:06:45,542 --> 00:06:47,583 in the past in confronting 140 00:06:47,667 --> 00:06:51,417 presidential power when it goes beyond the scope of the law. 141 00:07:01,458 --> 00:07:02,917 Ladies and gentlemen, 142 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,583 the President of the United States, 143 00:07:04,667 --> 00:07:07,041 accompanied by Bob Mueller. 144 00:07:07,125 --> 00:07:10,834 The heart and soul of the FBI is keeping 145 00:07:10,917 --> 00:07:13,750 the trust and confidence of the American people, 146 00:07:13,834 --> 00:07:18,125 being an investigative agency that's not corruptible. 147 00:07:18,208 --> 00:07:19,750 Mr. President. -It was a point 148 00:07:19,834 --> 00:07:22,208 Mueller used to make when he was director. 149 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:27,750 I am deeply honored by the trust 150 00:07:27,834 --> 00:07:30,083 that President Bush has shown in nominating me 151 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:32,792 to head the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 152 00:07:32,875 --> 00:07:34,875 Bob Mueller was the symbol 153 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:39,208 of a non-partisan individual who keeps his head down, 154 00:07:39,291 --> 00:07:41,000 follows the facts wherever they lead, 155 00:07:41,083 --> 00:07:44,458 and doesn't care about making a name for himself. 156 00:07:44,542 --> 00:07:48,458 The FBI is the foremost law enforcement agency 157 00:07:48,542 --> 00:07:49,959 in the world. 158 00:07:50,041 --> 00:07:52,333 The only political appointee at the FBI 159 00:07:52,417 --> 00:07:54,375 is the director of the FBI. 160 00:07:54,458 --> 00:07:56,250 Thank you all for coming. 161 00:07:56,333 --> 00:07:58,500 That's traditionally been a ten-year term 162 00:07:58,583 --> 00:08:01,125 to cross two terms of a president, 163 00:08:01,208 --> 00:08:03,000 to make it clear 164 00:08:03,083 --> 00:08:05,083 that the FBI director shouldn't be accountable 165 00:08:05,166 --> 00:08:08,667 to one party or the other, but independent. 166 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:13,583 Bob Mueller became 167 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:16,750 the head of the FBI a week before 168 00:08:16,834 --> 00:08:19,291 the September 11th attacks in 2001. 169 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:22,417 And you can imagine what 170 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,375 his second week at work was like. 171 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:43,709 On the morning of September 11th, 172 00:08:43,792 --> 00:08:47,417 Bob Mueller is getting his first briefing on al-Qaeda 173 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:49,875 when aides interrupt to tell him 174 00:08:49,959 --> 00:08:52,834 that the first plane has hit the World Trade Center. 175 00:08:52,917 --> 00:08:54,792 What happened? 176 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:56,625 It collapsed. 177 00:08:56,709 --> 00:08:58,667 The top floors collapsed down. 178 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:00,583 Even as he's sitting there 179 00:09:00,667 --> 00:09:03,000 in the briefing on al-Qaeda, 180 00:09:03,083 --> 00:09:06,417 the idea that that was the beginning of a terror plot 181 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:08,750 was so far-fetched 182 00:09:08,834 --> 00:09:12,458 that Mueller looks out the window and says, 183 00:09:12,542 --> 00:09:15,250 "How could a plane have hit the World Trade Center 184 00:09:15,333 --> 00:09:18,041 on such a clear day?" 185 00:09:18,125 --> 00:09:20,458 Try it again. 186 00:09:20,542 --> 00:09:22,041 Ready? -The president 187 00:09:22,125 --> 00:09:23,875 was in Sarasota, Florida, 188 00:09:23,959 --> 00:09:25,875 for an education event. 189 00:09:25,959 --> 00:09:28,834 I came up from behind him 190 00:09:28,917 --> 00:09:31,834 and leaned over and whispered into his right ear, 191 00:09:31,917 --> 00:09:36,458 "A second plane hit the second tower. 192 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:38,834 America is under attack." 193 00:09:40,917 --> 00:09:42,959 On the count of three... 194 00:09:57,625 --> 00:09:59,500 Freedom itself was attacked this morning 195 00:09:59,583 --> 00:10:01,291 by a faceless coward. 196 00:10:03,291 --> 00:10:06,041 The resolve of our great nation 197 00:10:06,125 --> 00:10:08,125 is being tested. 198 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:09,917 But make no mistake. 199 00:10:10,834 --> 00:10:13,709 We will show the world that we will pass this test. 200 00:10:13,792 --> 00:10:15,291 God bless. 201 00:10:23,625 --> 00:10:25,583 On September 14th, 202 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,291 in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, 203 00:10:28,375 --> 00:10:30,208 the president says, "I want to get 204 00:10:30,291 --> 00:10:32,917 the FBI director over here this morning." 205 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,500 And that sounds like a very normal expectation. 206 00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:38,542 The truth is, it was not normal. 207 00:10:38,625 --> 00:10:40,750 There was a great fear after Watergate 208 00:10:40,834 --> 00:10:43,667 that the president would try 209 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:48,125 to influence the investigative arm 210 00:10:48,208 --> 00:10:49,709 of the government, 211 00:10:49,792 --> 00:10:51,750 so after Watergate, 212 00:10:51,834 --> 00:10:54,667 FBI directors did not come to the White House very much 213 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:56,709 to have briefings with the president. 214 00:10:58,291 --> 00:11:01,291 But Bob Mueller came over, and he starts his briefing, 215 00:11:01,375 --> 00:11:03,792 and it was all about what they were doing 216 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:06,125 in terms of their investigation. 217 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:08,333 And the president interrupted and said, 218 00:11:08,417 --> 00:11:10,125 "I am very interested 219 00:11:10,208 --> 00:11:12,709 in learning what your investigation is finding, 220 00:11:12,792 --> 00:11:15,083 but of greater concern to me is, 221 00:11:15,166 --> 00:11:18,709 what are you doing to prevent the next attack?" 222 00:11:20,834 --> 00:11:22,583 The U.S. House of Representatives 223 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,792 is closing offices today to allow a complete sweep 224 00:11:25,875 --> 00:11:28,458 for traces of anthrax. 225 00:11:28,542 --> 00:11:30,083 We have to remember 226 00:11:30,166 --> 00:11:32,208 what the tension was like in Washington 227 00:11:32,291 --> 00:11:34,959 in the days and weeks and months after 9/11. 228 00:11:35,041 --> 00:11:36,583 There were 197 people onboard 229 00:11:36,667 --> 00:11:38,834 American Airlines Flight 63. 230 00:11:38,917 --> 00:11:40,458 An unruly passenger apparently had 231 00:11:40,542 --> 00:11:42,500 an explosive device in his shoes. 232 00:11:42,583 --> 00:11:44,542 Everyone was convinced 233 00:11:44,625 --> 00:11:47,834 that a second attack was days or minutes away. 234 00:11:47,917 --> 00:11:49,458 "They've got nuclear weapons. 235 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:51,208 They've got biological weapons. 236 00:11:51,291 --> 00:11:52,792 They've got chemical weapons. They're coming. 237 00:11:52,875 --> 00:11:55,834 The second wave is gonna hit." 238 00:11:55,917 --> 00:11:58,750 Vice President Dick Cheney held the point of view 239 00:11:58,834 --> 00:12:01,917 that in any time of crisis, 240 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,625 the powers of the presidency were unitary-- 241 00:12:04,709 --> 00:12:07,417 that is, he encompassed the power 242 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,375 of the Congress and of the courts in himself. 243 00:12:10,458 --> 00:12:13,583 It was more like a king than the president we think of. 244 00:12:15,625 --> 00:12:17,250 It was a point of view 245 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:19,834 that would get President George W. Bush 246 00:12:19,917 --> 00:12:23,208 into a terrible, terrible situation. 247 00:12:23,291 --> 00:12:25,917 These terrorists must be pursued, 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,250 they must be defeated, 249 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,500 and they must be brought to justice. 250 00:12:34,417 --> 00:12:36,458 In 2002, 251 00:12:36,542 --> 00:12:39,500 to help forewarn of an attack on the United States, 252 00:12:39,583 --> 00:12:43,375 President Bush orders the National Security Agency 253 00:12:43,458 --> 00:12:46,125 to basically start spying 254 00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:49,041 on not only the world... 255 00:12:49,125 --> 00:12:50,458 but on Americans. 256 00:12:54,542 --> 00:12:57,959 The program, which authorized electronic eavesdropping 257 00:12:58,041 --> 00:13:00,375 into people's phone calls and emails, 258 00:13:00,458 --> 00:13:03,000 is code-named Stellar Wind. 259 00:13:05,041 --> 00:13:06,709 The exact technical details of it 260 00:13:06,792 --> 00:13:10,917 are still largely opaque to us, 261 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,250 but it authorized the surveillance of Americans 262 00:13:14,333 --> 00:13:16,250 inside America. 263 00:13:19,792 --> 00:13:21,208 This threatens to shatter 264 00:13:21,291 --> 00:13:23,333 an understanding that has been in place 265 00:13:23,417 --> 00:13:25,291 since Watergate: 266 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:29,542 you don't spy on Americans without a warrant. 267 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:31,500 I wanna congratulate you, Mr. Comey, 268 00:13:31,583 --> 00:13:33,333 for being selected by President Bush 269 00:13:33,417 --> 00:13:36,125 for this important position in the Justice Department. 270 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:38,083 At this time, 271 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:39,834 the rising star in the Justice Department, 272 00:13:39,917 --> 00:13:42,000 Jim Comey, is promoted to become 273 00:13:42,083 --> 00:13:44,500 the deputy attorney general of the United States 274 00:13:44,583 --> 00:13:46,959 above Bob Mueller, 275 00:13:47,041 --> 00:13:49,083 and Comey comes to understand 276 00:13:49,166 --> 00:13:53,250 that there are serious concerns about Stellar Wind, 277 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:56,959 emanating in large part from a lawyer 278 00:13:57,041 --> 00:13:58,667 named Jack Goldsmith. 279 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,417 When I got to the Office of Legal Counsel 280 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,834 in October of 2003, 281 00:14:06,917 --> 00:14:08,834 I couldn't have imagined having confrontations 282 00:14:08,917 --> 00:14:11,417 like I had with the White House. 283 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:13,041 But there's a natural tension 284 00:14:13,125 --> 00:14:15,625 that's exacerbated in wartime 285 00:14:15,709 --> 00:14:17,375 between, on the one hand, 286 00:14:17,458 --> 00:14:18,959 wanting to do whatever you can to stop the next attack, 287 00:14:19,041 --> 00:14:21,750 and on the other hand, ensuring that 288 00:14:21,834 --> 00:14:23,166 the executive branch complies with the law. 289 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:25,000 So that tension was ever present. 290 00:14:25,083 --> 00:14:27,041 It was starkly felt every day I worked. 291 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:37,500 So the Office of Legal Counsel basically serves to determine 292 00:14:37,583 --> 00:14:40,500 what is lawful for the executive branch. 293 00:14:40,583 --> 00:14:42,333 My predecessors had a conception 294 00:14:42,417 --> 00:14:45,625 of executive power that was super broad, 295 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:47,583 and they basically thought the president could 296 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:49,458 do whatever he wanted in wartime 297 00:14:49,542 --> 00:14:51,583 if he thought it was necessary for national security, 298 00:14:51,667 --> 00:14:54,917 so for two years, the program had been deemed lawful. 299 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,625 But the entire program was flawed. 300 00:14:58,709 --> 00:15:00,250 I concluded that 301 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,083 the government was not fully complying 302 00:15:02,166 --> 00:15:03,583 with the law 303 00:15:03,667 --> 00:15:04,750 that was designed to protect 304 00:15:04,834 --> 00:15:06,458 the privacy of Americans 305 00:15:06,542 --> 00:15:08,417 when it comes to electronic surveillance. 306 00:15:11,834 --> 00:15:14,458 This results in an epic confrontation 307 00:15:14,542 --> 00:15:16,208 over civil liberties-- 308 00:15:16,291 --> 00:15:19,625 the president and the vice president on one side, 309 00:15:19,709 --> 00:15:22,125 Jim Comey and Bob Mueller on the other. 310 00:15:24,875 --> 00:15:26,875 On March 9th, 311 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:29,208 there's this high-stakes meeting at the White House 312 00:15:29,291 --> 00:15:31,959 to air the concerns about the Stellar Wind program. 313 00:15:32,041 --> 00:15:34,125 It's a high-power gathering. 314 00:15:34,208 --> 00:15:37,208 You've got Jim Comey, FBI Director Robert Mueller, 315 00:15:37,291 --> 00:15:39,667 and head of the Office of Legal Counsel, 316 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:41,041 Jack Goldsmith, 317 00:15:41,125 --> 00:15:43,667 versus Vice President Cheney; 318 00:15:43,750 --> 00:15:46,417 Cheney's top legal advisor, David Addington; 319 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:49,333 and even White House Chief of Staff, Andy Card. 320 00:15:49,417 --> 00:15:53,458 There was no one at any of those meetings that was there 321 00:15:53,542 --> 00:15:57,500 because they wanted to deny personal liberty, 322 00:15:57,583 --> 00:16:00,542 and they were not trying to interrupt 323 00:16:00,625 --> 00:16:03,208 private communication. 324 00:16:03,291 --> 00:16:05,125 I can't impress upon you 325 00:16:05,208 --> 00:16:07,333 the reality of dealing with the change 326 00:16:07,417 --> 00:16:10,000 from an analog world to a digital world. 327 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:13,959 The world changed before our laws did, 328 00:16:14,041 --> 00:16:17,166 and Stellar Wind took reality 329 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:18,709 and forced it into the law. 330 00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:22,917 We've got bad things happening around the world. 331 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,959 We don't want to... go blind, 332 00:16:25,041 --> 00:16:27,834 and we have to go blind-- we-we'd have to pull the plug 333 00:16:27,917 --> 00:16:29,625 if we don't get it signed. 334 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:32,458 Cheney then expressed a frustration 335 00:16:32,542 --> 00:16:33,667 that was entirely reasonable. 336 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:35,834 He pointed out that 337 00:16:35,917 --> 00:16:37,291 the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel 338 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:38,875 had written a memo 339 00:16:38,959 --> 00:16:41,000 to support the program in 2001 340 00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:42,959 and that the attorney general had repeatedly certified 341 00:16:43,041 --> 00:16:45,125 the program's legality since. 342 00:16:45,208 --> 00:16:48,041 I said the 2001 opinion was so bad 343 00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:50,291 as to be facially invalid. 344 00:16:50,375 --> 00:16:53,208 No lawyer could rely upon it. 345 00:16:53,291 --> 00:16:56,500 From the windowsill came Addington's cutting voice: 346 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:59,250 "I'm a lawyer, and I did." 347 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:02,291 "No good lawyer," I added. 348 00:17:02,375 --> 00:17:05,125 David Addington said something to the effect that, 349 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,041 "If you rule that way, you'll have the blood 350 00:17:07,125 --> 00:17:08,625 of the 100,000 people who die in the next attack 351 00:17:08,709 --> 00:17:09,709 on your hands." 352 00:17:11,875 --> 00:17:14,083 He wasn't saying that to scare me. 353 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:15,625 He really wasn't. He really believed it. 354 00:17:15,709 --> 00:17:17,125 And I kind of believed it too. 355 00:17:18,125 --> 00:17:20,083 I mean, I was reading the threat reports. 356 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:22,166 I was as scared as anybody else. 357 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:24,083 And this is all happening in secret. 358 00:17:24,166 --> 00:17:26,542 It's very tough in that circumstance 359 00:17:26,625 --> 00:17:29,250 to know exactly what the right answer is. 360 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:30,750 But we held. 361 00:17:30,834 --> 00:17:32,542 We held, but it wasn't over. 362 00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,375 I met alone with Attorney General Ashcroft 363 00:17:40,458 --> 00:17:43,500 to tell him in detail about the problems with the program 364 00:17:43,583 --> 00:17:46,542 and why we could not approve another extension: 365 00:17:46,625 --> 00:17:47,875 it was an extraordinary assertion 366 00:17:47,959 --> 00:17:50,000 of presidential power. 367 00:17:50,083 --> 00:17:53,375 The president has serious substantial powers, 368 00:17:53,458 --> 00:17:55,000 but the president doesn't have the right 369 00:17:55,083 --> 00:17:56,750 to do whatever he chooses. 370 00:17:56,834 --> 00:17:58,333 No one has that right 371 00:17:58,417 --> 00:18:01,583 in a society framed by the rule of law. 372 00:18:03,417 --> 00:18:05,625 And I'm not in a position to discuss 373 00:18:05,709 --> 00:18:07,542 what my advice was 374 00:18:07,625 --> 00:18:09,417 to the President of the United States 375 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,625 and his staff. 376 00:18:10,709 --> 00:18:12,208 I think those are things 377 00:18:12,291 --> 00:18:15,083 that are importantly not discussed publicly. 378 00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:16,875 It's pretty clear that Jim Comey 379 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,208 doesn't have the same feeling. 380 00:18:18,291 --> 00:18:20,041 ...why he came off the list? 381 00:18:20,125 --> 00:18:21,875 Did it have anything to do with the prosecution 382 00:18:21,959 --> 00:18:23,583 of voter fraud cases? 383 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:25,041 I would ask our witness 384 00:18:25,125 --> 00:18:26,250 to please state your name for the record. 385 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:27,875 My name's James Comey. 386 00:18:27,959 --> 00:18:29,542 Can you hit your microphone, please? 387 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:31,333 Sorry, I've forgotten... -There we go. 388 00:18:31,417 --> 00:18:32,667 I've forgotten the... 389 00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:34,208 The technology. My name is James Comey. 390 00:18:34,291 --> 00:18:35,333 I go by Jim Comey. 391 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:40,792 Now, were you there when Jim Comey gave his testimony? 392 00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:42,417 Yeah, I was a dutiful staffer 393 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:43,792 sitting behind, 394 00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:46,750 Senator Charles Schumer. 395 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:48,792 In the spring of 2007, 396 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:50,667 I was the chief counsel to Senator Schumer 397 00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:52,625 on the Judiciary Committee. 398 00:18:52,709 --> 00:18:55,375 We had a-a witness who was gonna come testify 399 00:18:55,458 --> 00:18:57,250 who had to cancel at the last minute, 400 00:18:57,333 --> 00:19:00,083 and now we had an open spot. 401 00:19:00,166 --> 00:19:02,083 And I know Jim a long time. 402 00:19:02,166 --> 00:19:03,625 He had been my boss as a U.S. attorney 403 00:19:03,709 --> 00:19:04,875 when I was an assistant U.S. attorney 404 00:19:04,959 --> 00:19:06,375 in the southern district. 405 00:19:06,458 --> 00:19:09,625 It also became known to me 406 00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:12,041 that...you know, there's this other thing 407 00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:14,333 that he has never talked about, that was only rumored. 408 00:19:14,417 --> 00:19:16,458 So Jim Comey tells me on the phone 409 00:19:16,542 --> 00:19:19,291 about this, you know, hitherto, you know, 410 00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:22,041 unexplored and basically unknown crisis 411 00:19:22,125 --> 00:19:24,208 in the Bush White House and Justice Department 412 00:19:24,291 --> 00:19:25,625 in a way that made the hair stand up 413 00:19:25,709 --> 00:19:27,417 on the back of my neck. 414 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,583 And was the description in the room 415 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:32,208 as dramatic as it was on the phone? 416 00:19:32,291 --> 00:19:34,583 It was more dramatic because there were-- 417 00:19:34,667 --> 00:19:37,959 there were senators whose-whose jaws dropped to the floor. 418 00:19:39,083 --> 00:19:41,458 This was a... 419 00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:47,834 Very memorable... period in my life-- 420 00:19:47,917 --> 00:19:49,166 probably the most difficult time 421 00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:51,458 in my entire professional life. 422 00:19:51,542 --> 00:19:53,709 In the early part of 2004, 423 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:56,583 the Office of Legal Counsel, under my supervision, 424 00:19:56,667 --> 00:19:59,542 was engaged in a reevaluation both factually and legally 425 00:19:59,625 --> 00:20:01,417 of a particular classified program. 426 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,500 Just assume--you thought something was wrong? 427 00:20:03,583 --> 00:20:05,542 Yes. -Right. 428 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,959 And it was a program that was renewed on a regular basis 429 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:11,083 and required signature by the attorney general 430 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,125 certifying to its legality. 431 00:20:13,208 --> 00:20:14,709 But the attorney general was taken 432 00:20:14,792 --> 00:20:16,458 to George Washington Hospital, 433 00:20:16,542 --> 00:20:18,625 and I became the acting attorney general. 434 00:20:18,709 --> 00:20:20,542 And as acting attorney general, 435 00:20:20,625 --> 00:20:23,125 I would not certify the program, 436 00:20:23,208 --> 00:20:24,375 as to its legality. 437 00:20:26,166 --> 00:20:28,959 During this period, you were not in good health. 438 00:20:29,041 --> 00:20:31,250 Could you at least e-- 439 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:33,625 There were press reports. 440 00:20:33,709 --> 00:20:36,667 I would confirm that I was, for about ten days, 441 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:39,542 in intensive care in the hospital. 442 00:20:39,625 --> 00:20:42,792 And I know--I know of nothing to contradict those... 443 00:20:42,875 --> 00:20:44,834 Press reports. 444 00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:48,166 Well, thank you for that--thank you 445 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:49,750 - for that candor. - That's-- 446 00:20:49,834 --> 00:20:51,667 there's a big concession for you. 447 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:57,709 Were you present when Alberto Gonzales visited 448 00:20:57,792 --> 00:21:00,834 Attorney General Ashcroft's bedside? 449 00:21:00,917 --> 00:21:02,375 Yes. 450 00:21:02,458 --> 00:21:04,333 And am I correct 451 00:21:04,417 --> 00:21:06,792 that the conduct of Mr. Gonzalez and Mr. Card 452 00:21:06,875 --> 00:21:09,625 on that evening troubled you greatly? 453 00:21:09,709 --> 00:21:10,750 Yes. 454 00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:12,583 Why? 455 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,041 I-- I'm only hesitating-- 456 00:21:17,125 --> 00:21:18,875 and I'm uncomfortable talking about this, 457 00:21:18,959 --> 00:21:20,583 but I'll answer the question. -I understand. 458 00:21:22,625 --> 00:21:24,250 Wednesday, March the tenth, 459 00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:25,834 the night of the hospital incident, 460 00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:27,417 at about eight o'clock that evening, 461 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:29,750 I was headed home. 462 00:21:29,834 --> 00:21:33,875 My security detail was driving me, and got a call 463 00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,834 from Attorney General Ashcroft's chief of staff, 464 00:21:36,917 --> 00:21:40,000 telling me that he had gotten a call from Mrs. Ashcroft 465 00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:42,000 from the hospital. 466 00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:45,083 And Mrs. Ashcroft reported that a call had come through-- 467 00:21:45,166 --> 00:21:47,291 Do you have any idea who that call was from? 468 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:51,625 I have some recollection 469 00:21:51,709 --> 00:21:53,959 that the call was from the president himself, 470 00:21:54,041 --> 00:21:55,333 but I don't know that for sure. 471 00:21:55,417 --> 00:21:57,166 It came from the White House, 472 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:59,709 and as a result of that call, 473 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:01,375 Mr. Card and Mr. Gonzales were on their way to the hospital 474 00:22:01,458 --> 00:22:03,333 to see Mr. Ashcroft. 475 00:22:05,375 --> 00:22:08,166 So I told my security detail that I needed to get 476 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:10,834 to George Washington Hospital immediately. 477 00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,250 They turned on the emergency equipment 478 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,041 and drove very quickly. 479 00:22:17,125 --> 00:22:19,667 Immediately called FBI Director Mueller, 480 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:22,041 with whom I'd been discussing this particular matter, 481 00:22:22,125 --> 00:22:24,166 and told him what was happening. 482 00:22:24,250 --> 00:22:25,542 He said, "I'll meet you at the hospital right now." 483 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,041 What was your concern? 484 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:31,458 You were in, obviously, a huge hurry. 485 00:22:31,542 --> 00:22:35,041 I was concerned that, 486 00:22:35,125 --> 00:22:37,917 given how ill I knew the attorney general was, 487 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,417 that there might be an effort to ask him to overrule me 488 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:44,458 when he was in no condition to do that. 489 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:49,375 You have these lights-and-siren motorcades 490 00:22:49,458 --> 00:22:52,291 converging from across Washington. 491 00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:54,834 Comey gets there first. 492 00:22:54,917 --> 00:22:57,417 Comey knows that Mueller is not going to make it 493 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,333 to the hospital 494 00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:01,625 before White House Chief of Staff Andy Card 495 00:23:01,709 --> 00:23:04,291 and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales. 496 00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:07,208 And Jim Comey, in that moment, 497 00:23:07,291 --> 00:23:10,125 is worried that the Secret Service agents 498 00:23:10,208 --> 00:23:12,250 who are with Andy Card 499 00:23:12,333 --> 00:23:15,875 might try to remove Comey from the hospital room. 500 00:23:18,041 --> 00:23:19,709 "While standing with the FBI special agent, 501 00:23:19,792 --> 00:23:21,792 I called Bob Mueller again on his cell phone. 502 00:23:21,875 --> 00:23:23,792 He was on his way. 503 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:26,667 'Bob,' I said, 'I need you to order your agents 504 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,709 not to permit me to be taken from Ashcroft's room 505 00:23:28,792 --> 00:23:30,959 under any circumstances.' 506 00:23:31,041 --> 00:23:33,625 Mueller asked me to pass the phone to the agent. 507 00:23:33,709 --> 00:23:36,792 I stood as the agent listened, crisply answered, 'Yes, sir,' 508 00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:38,834 and passed the phone back. 509 00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:41,291 The agent looked at me with a steely expression. 510 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:43,000 'You will not leave that room, sir. 511 00:23:43,083 --> 00:23:44,250 This is our scene.'" 512 00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:49,291 Just sort of imagine what it's like 513 00:23:49,375 --> 00:23:51,333 for those FBI agents in that moment. 514 00:23:51,417 --> 00:23:54,542 You know, "Use force if you need to 515 00:23:54,625 --> 00:23:57,583 to resist the U.S. Secret Service 516 00:23:57,667 --> 00:23:59,709 and the White House chief of staff." 517 00:23:59,792 --> 00:24:01,959 And it has to be, 518 00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:04,875 one of the most surreal telephone calls 519 00:24:04,959 --> 00:24:06,959 in American political history. 520 00:24:10,417 --> 00:24:13,917 And the attorney general was... 521 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,625 What was his condition? 522 00:24:15,709 --> 00:24:18,041 Mr. Ashcroft was lying down in the bed. 523 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:19,875 The room was darkened. 524 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,291 He seemed pretty bad off. 525 00:24:22,375 --> 00:24:23,792 I was shortly joined 526 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:25,542 by the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, 527 00:24:25,625 --> 00:24:27,750 Assistant Attorney General Jack Goldsmith, 528 00:24:27,834 --> 00:24:30,542 and it was only a matter of minutes 529 00:24:30,625 --> 00:24:33,709 that the door opened, and in walked, 530 00:24:33,792 --> 00:24:35,542 Mr. Gonzales, carrying an envelope, 531 00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:37,625 and Mr. Card. 532 00:24:42,083 --> 00:24:44,667 They seemed very surprised to see us. 533 00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:46,959 It was a very awkward-- extremely awkward moment. 534 00:24:48,917 --> 00:24:51,166 They were standing at the foot of the bed. 535 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:53,625 In that manila envelope, Gonzales had the approvals 536 00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:55,834 for the program without any retraction, 537 00:24:55,917 --> 00:24:57,875 and he asked the attorney general 538 00:24:57,959 --> 00:25:00,250 would he approve the program that he essentially approved 539 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,000 for the last two years. 540 00:25:06,041 --> 00:25:08,000 There was some silence, 541 00:25:08,083 --> 00:25:11,375 and then Ashcroft kind of lifted himself up off the bed 542 00:25:11,458 --> 00:25:13,208 and he kind of expanded his chest 543 00:25:13,291 --> 00:25:14,458 and kind of looked at them, 544 00:25:14,542 --> 00:25:17,500 and he came to life a little bit. 545 00:25:17,583 --> 00:25:20,458 And then John Ashcroft did something that amazed me. 546 00:25:20,542 --> 00:25:21,917 He had been misled about the scope 547 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,709 of the surveillance program, he said. 548 00:25:23,792 --> 00:25:25,542 He vented that he had serious concerns 549 00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:27,875 about the legal basis for parts of the program 550 00:25:27,959 --> 00:25:29,875 now that he understood it. 551 00:25:29,959 --> 00:25:32,208 "But that doesn't matter now," he said, 552 00:25:32,291 --> 00:25:34,500 "because I'm not the attorney general." 553 00:25:34,583 --> 00:25:37,083 With a finger extended from his shaking left hand, 554 00:25:37,166 --> 00:25:38,959 he pointed at me. 555 00:25:39,041 --> 00:25:40,792 "There is the attorney general." 556 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,041 I don't appreciate the way Jim Comey talks about it. 557 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:49,083 His tunnel vision was limited, 558 00:25:49,166 --> 00:25:50,792 so I don't question 559 00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:53,625 how he relates it from his narrow vision, 560 00:25:53,709 --> 00:25:56,709 but it's very different than a more realistic 561 00:25:56,792 --> 00:25:59,667 a-and accurate description of what happened. 562 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:02,458 The president made a phone call to the hospital, 563 00:26:02,542 --> 00:26:04,917 and I hear him say to John Ashcroft-- 564 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,166 or Janet Ashcroft--that Andy Card and Alberto Gonzales 565 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:10,125 will come over and bring the documents, 566 00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:11,667 and you can sign them. 567 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:15,333 And so, the president says to me, 568 00:26:15,417 --> 00:26:17,667 "He's expecting you. You can go over there." 569 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,709 And I go out and get Alberto Gonzales, 570 00:26:19,792 --> 00:26:22,000 and we then go over to the hospital. 571 00:26:22,083 --> 00:26:24,417 This was not, "Sign the document! 572 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,041 You've gotta make him sign the document!" 573 00:26:26,125 --> 00:26:27,917 - No, no-- - This was not that way at all. 574 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,250 But he did-- John Ashcroft didn't turn 575 00:26:30,333 --> 00:26:32,542 to you and say, "I'm not the attorney general. 576 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,291 - This man is"? - No, he says, "I'm told 577 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,625 I'm not the attorney general right now." 578 00:26:36,709 --> 00:26:40,291 I was...upset at the White House 579 00:26:40,375 --> 00:26:41,834 because I didn't know 580 00:26:41,917 --> 00:26:43,792 the attorney general wasn't the attorney general. 581 00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:45,625 I was not in a condition 582 00:26:45,709 --> 00:26:48,250 to make the kinds of decisions that... 583 00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:50,166 um... 584 00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:52,125 I wasn't totally without an awareness, 585 00:26:52,208 --> 00:26:54,291 but I-I wasn't looking around the room. 586 00:26:54,375 --> 00:26:57,667 I-I didn't...I didn't... 587 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:01,583 you know, I had a morphine pump in one hand. 588 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:04,625 And I was not attorney general for a good reason. 589 00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:08,750 At that point, they just wanted 590 00:27:08,834 --> 00:27:10,250 to get the hell out of there, 591 00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:12,125 and they said something like, 592 00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,542 "Thank you very much, sir. I hope you feel better." 593 00:27:14,625 --> 00:27:17,125 Mrs. Ashcroft is a small lady, 594 00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:20,333 and...she did something that really kind of summed up 595 00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:21,750 the way I think a lot of us felt. 596 00:27:21,834 --> 00:27:23,250 As they were walking out the door, 597 00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:24,542 she stuck out her tongue at them 598 00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:28,125 in a very, um, forceful way. 599 00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:29,208 She didn't approve. 600 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,709 Can you tell us what happened then? 601 00:27:34,333 --> 00:27:37,125 I was very upset. I was angry. 602 00:27:37,208 --> 00:27:41,250 Jim Comey has a strong sense of right and wrong, 603 00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:42,917 and through his career 604 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,291 has not been shy about sharing that 605 00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:47,917 publicly and vocally. 606 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,959 Tell me what so upset you. 607 00:27:50,041 --> 00:27:52,166 I thought I'd just witnessed an effort to take advantage 608 00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:54,125 of a very sick man 609 00:27:54,208 --> 00:27:55,875 who did not have the powers of the attorney general 610 00:27:55,959 --> 00:27:58,583 because they had been transferred to me. 611 00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:00,083 People want to take these things 612 00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:01,417 and turn them into Machiavellian games. 613 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,000 It was not. 614 00:28:03,083 --> 00:28:05,000 Yes, the attorney general had signed off 615 00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:06,542 on it every month. 616 00:28:06,625 --> 00:28:07,750 Yes, there was an expectation 617 00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:09,500 that he'd sign off on it again. 618 00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:11,667 Yes, we were told that the program would come 619 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:13,542 to a screeching halt at midnight 620 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,875 if we didn't have the document signed. 621 00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:19,709 And I wasn't even carrying the document. 622 00:28:19,792 --> 00:28:22,417 Alberto Gonzales was. 623 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,333 Who sent you to the hospital? 624 00:28:24,417 --> 00:28:25,709 Senator, what I can say is we'd had 625 00:28:25,792 --> 00:28:27,959 a very important meeting at the White House 626 00:28:28,041 --> 00:28:29,417 - over one of the most-- - I didn't ask that. 627 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:30,750 I didn't ask--you've discussed the meeting... 628 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,250 I'm answering your question, Senator. 629 00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:33,500 Who sent you? -If I could. 630 00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,166 Did anyone tell you to go? 631 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:36,875 It was one of the most important programs 632 00:28:36,959 --> 00:28:38,208 for the United States. It was important-- 633 00:28:38,291 --> 00:28:39,792 had been authorized by the president. 634 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:42,041 Did the president ask you to go? 635 00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:43,083 We were there on behalf of the President of the United States. 636 00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:44,291 I didn't ask you that. 637 00:28:44,375 --> 00:28:45,709 Did the president ask you to go? 638 00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:47,166 Senator, we were there on behalf 639 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:48,417 of the President of the United States. 640 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,000 Why can't you answer that question? 641 00:28:50,083 --> 00:28:52,041 That's the answer that I can give you, Senator. 642 00:28:54,208 --> 00:28:56,458 And you stated that the next day, Thursday, 643 00:28:56,542 --> 00:28:59,291 was the deadline for reauthorization of the program. 644 00:28:59,375 --> 00:29:01,250 - Is that right? - Yes, sir. 645 00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:03,458 Okay. Can you tell us what happened? 646 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:07,500 The program was reauthorized without us, 647 00:29:07,583 --> 00:29:09,917 and without a signature from the Department of Justice 648 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,583 attesting as to its legality 649 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:15,834 and, I prepared a letter of resignation. 650 00:29:19,417 --> 00:29:21,125 As I understand it, 651 00:29:21,208 --> 00:29:24,500 you believed that others were also prepared to resign, 652 00:29:24,583 --> 00:29:26,667 not just you. 653 00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:28,291 Yes. 654 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,959 I was prepared to resign if I felt 655 00:29:33,041 --> 00:29:36,500 that we were condoning or promoting or facilitating 656 00:29:36,583 --> 00:29:39,458 illegal behavior. 657 00:29:39,542 --> 00:29:41,333 It is not to say that you are 658 00:29:41,417 --> 00:29:42,458 the ultimate arbiter 659 00:29:42,542 --> 00:29:44,166 of what's right and wrong. 660 00:29:45,375 --> 00:29:47,250 I started thinking more about resignation 661 00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,500 and trying to figure out what the principled thing 662 00:29:49,583 --> 00:29:51,959 to do was in this highly political situation 663 00:29:52,041 --> 00:29:53,667 where there was a lot of presidential power 664 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,333 to deal with, but there was also restraints 665 00:29:55,417 --> 00:29:57,166 on presidential power. 666 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,458 And across my desk 667 00:29:59,542 --> 00:30:01,834 was a large portrait of Elliot Richardson, 668 00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:04,667 the attorney general under Nixon 669 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,000 who resigned on principle. 670 00:30:07,083 --> 00:30:09,959 He has very thick, large black glasses, 671 00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:12,291 and his beady little eyes were staring out of them, 672 00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:14,750 and I grew very close to him in watching his portrait 673 00:30:14,834 --> 00:30:17,250 and trying to decide what I should do. 674 00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:20,333 Ultimately, I didn't see how I could continue to serve 675 00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:23,709 an administration that seemed indifferent to the law, 676 00:30:23,792 --> 00:30:25,583 so I was prepared to resign, 677 00:30:25,667 --> 00:30:28,834 and a lot of other people were as well. 678 00:30:28,917 --> 00:30:30,834 How about your chief of staff? 679 00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:33,291 Yes, he-he was certainly gonna go when I went. 680 00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:37,083 Right. How about Mr. Ashcroft's chief of staff? 681 00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:38,834 My understanding was that he would go as well. 682 00:30:38,917 --> 00:30:41,166 How about Director Mueller? 683 00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:42,375 Yes. 684 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:48,208 Literally and figuratively, George W. Bush blinks, 685 00:30:48,291 --> 00:30:51,959 and he says, "Tell Jim to make the changes 686 00:30:52,041 --> 00:30:55,583 that he thinks are necessary to this program." 687 00:30:55,667 --> 00:30:58,625 Bush writes in his memoir... 688 00:30:58,709 --> 00:31:02,500 that when Mueller and Comey confronted him 689 00:31:02,583 --> 00:31:05,834 and said they were prepared to resign on principle, 690 00:31:05,917 --> 00:31:08,542 a thought flashed immediately through his mind, 691 00:31:08,625 --> 00:31:12,458 and that was the memory of the Saturday Night Massacre. 692 00:31:12,542 --> 00:31:15,417 President Nixon has discharged 693 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:19,709 Archibald Cox as Watergate's special prosecutor. 694 00:31:19,792 --> 00:31:24,000 As a result, Attorney General Elliot Richardson has resigned, 695 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:27,291 and when Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus 696 00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:30,208 refused to carry out orders... 697 00:31:30,291 --> 00:31:32,959 From the president, he was discharged. 698 00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:37,125 And Bush writes, "That was not a historical experience 699 00:31:37,208 --> 00:31:39,000 I wished to repeat." 700 00:31:39,083 --> 00:31:41,625 You felt lucky that the country was spared 701 00:31:41,709 --> 00:31:44,208 what was clearly a constitutional crisis 702 00:31:44,291 --> 00:31:46,208 and a potential mass resignation, 703 00:31:46,291 --> 00:31:48,041 over principle 704 00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:50,000 by the leading law enforcement officials 705 00:31:50,083 --> 00:31:52,375 in the country. 706 00:31:52,458 --> 00:31:54,417 George W. Bush didn't think 707 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:56,375 that any president could survive 708 00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:57,959 the loss of an FBI director. 709 00:32:00,291 --> 00:32:03,250 Those are words he said to me a decade ago at this point 710 00:32:03,333 --> 00:32:05,834 but have sort of rattled around my mind 711 00:32:05,917 --> 00:32:08,000 with sort of a fresh resonance, 712 00:32:08,083 --> 00:32:11,000 you know, as we sort of look at Jim Comey and Bob Mueller 713 00:32:11,083 --> 00:32:12,750 in the midst of another showdown 714 00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,750 with another president. 715 00:32:23,291 --> 00:32:25,834 On June eighth, 2017, 716 00:32:25,917 --> 00:32:29,500 almost ten years exactly after his testimony 717 00:32:29,583 --> 00:32:31,792 about the Stellar Wind confrontation, 718 00:32:31,875 --> 00:32:34,959 here comes Jim Comey to tell the story 719 00:32:35,041 --> 00:32:37,333 of another extraordinary confrontation 720 00:32:37,417 --> 00:32:38,625 with a president. 721 00:32:40,709 --> 00:32:43,083 Comey delivering the first public accounting 722 00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:45,458 of his dealings with President Donald Trump. 723 00:32:45,542 --> 00:32:47,458 No word yet on whether the White House would 724 00:32:47,542 --> 00:32:50,625 claim executive privilege to block Comey's testimony. 725 00:32:50,709 --> 00:32:52,083 He has done so much damage 726 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:54,250 to the reputation of the FBI, 727 00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:56,875 and he continues to insert himself into stories. 728 00:32:56,959 --> 00:32:58,875 Nothing with Jim Comey has been dull 729 00:32:58,959 --> 00:33:00,417 in his past testimonies. 730 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,291 I don't expect this one to be either. 731 00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:05,250 Director Comey, you're now under oath. 732 00:33:05,333 --> 00:33:06,959 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 733 00:33:07,041 --> 00:33:08,959 Ranking Member Warner, members of the committee, 734 00:33:09,041 --> 00:33:11,834 thank you for inviting me here to testify today. 735 00:33:11,917 --> 00:33:16,250 When I was appointed FBI director in 2013, 736 00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:19,208 I understood that I served at the pleasure of the president. 737 00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:23,667 But I want the American people to know this truth: 738 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:25,417 when I was fired, 739 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,250 the administration chose to defame me 740 00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:30,875 and, more importantly, the FBI by saying 741 00:33:30,959 --> 00:33:33,375 that the organization was in disarray, 742 00:33:33,458 --> 00:33:36,959 that the workforce had lost confidence in its leader. 743 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,917 Those were lies, plain and simple. 744 00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:45,500 There were a lot of terrible things 745 00:33:45,583 --> 00:33:50,458 about the firing, but it didn't surprise me. 746 00:33:54,041 --> 00:33:57,125 I run a news and commentary outlet 747 00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:59,333 that is devoted to, 748 00:33:59,417 --> 00:34:00,792 the space where 749 00:34:00,875 --> 00:34:03,333 national security, law, and policy 750 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:04,792 crash into one another. 751 00:34:06,834 --> 00:34:09,750 Two days after the election, I wrote a piece 752 00:34:09,834 --> 00:34:11,750 specifically warning 753 00:34:11,834 --> 00:34:12,542 that Trump might try 754 00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:13,875 to fire Jim Comey. 755 00:34:16,709 --> 00:34:20,208 I believed that if you are an authoritarian personality 756 00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:22,542 in control of the presidency, 757 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:23,917 you simply cannot be 758 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,375 as authoritarian as you want to be 759 00:34:26,458 --> 00:34:28,333 if you have independent, honest law enforcement-- 760 00:34:28,417 --> 00:34:30,959 and let me just be candid about my bias, here: 761 00:34:31,041 --> 00:34:33,542 That is what I think Jim represents. 762 00:34:33,625 --> 00:34:36,917 Flaws and all, whatever mistakes he may have made, 763 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,333 he's independent and he's honest. 764 00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:42,083 Let me begin with one overarching question. 765 00:34:42,166 --> 00:34:44,625 Why do you believe you were fired? 766 00:34:44,709 --> 00:34:46,417 There's no doubt that 767 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:48,375 it's a fair judgment-- it's my judgment-- 768 00:34:48,458 --> 00:34:51,417 that I was fired because of the Russia investigation. 769 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:53,750 I was fired to change the way 770 00:34:53,834 --> 00:34:55,792 the Russia investigation was being conducted. 771 00:34:58,291 --> 00:35:00,083 I wanted to know 772 00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:02,375 that the person who headed the FBI 773 00:35:02,458 --> 00:35:04,250 would be willing 774 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,667 to stand up to the President of the United States 775 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:11,250 as Bob Mueller had been willing to do in 2004, 776 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:14,667 because, for reasons that were specific 777 00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:16,750 to the Russia investigation, 778 00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:19,000 I never doubted that there would be 779 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:20,959 a significant confrontation. 780 00:35:23,291 --> 00:35:25,250 The Russia investigation began 781 00:35:25,333 --> 00:35:28,125 very quietly in the summer of 2016, 782 00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:30,792 when evidence of Russian interference 783 00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:32,834 in the presidential election started to emerge. 784 00:35:35,083 --> 00:35:37,000 There's a long history of the Russians 785 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:37,959 interfering in elections-- 786 00:35:38,041 --> 00:35:40,000 theirs and other people's. 787 00:35:40,083 --> 00:35:42,917 We have records going back at least to the '60s 788 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,792 of Russians attempting, in their ham-handed way, 789 00:35:45,875 --> 00:35:47,417 to influence elections. 790 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:49,917 Just to play devil's advocate, I mean, 791 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,500 isn't there a variation of this 792 00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:53,750 that we've done to Russia in the past? 793 00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:56,041 Sure. We've done that. 794 00:35:56,125 --> 00:35:58,083 ...I... 795 00:35:58,166 --> 00:36:00,083 This may seem naive or altruistic, 796 00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:03,041 but I think in just about every case, 797 00:36:03,125 --> 00:36:06,250 we were trying to do it because of the oppressed peoples 798 00:36:06,333 --> 00:36:08,333 of that particular country or, frankly, 799 00:36:08,417 --> 00:36:11,458 what we thought was in, you know, best U.S. interests. 800 00:36:11,542 --> 00:36:15,959 But never ever as direct and aggressive and multifaceted 801 00:36:16,041 --> 00:36:18,875 as what they did in 2016. 802 00:36:18,959 --> 00:36:20,417 Was the big difference 803 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,166 that they weaponized it and made it public? 804 00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,834 Well, the thing was, it was so different. 805 00:36:23,917 --> 00:36:25,625 It was so active, 806 00:36:25,709 --> 00:36:28,250 particularly using the enabler of social media. 807 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:30,625 That was the big difference here. 808 00:36:30,709 --> 00:36:33,375 Massive use of social media, 809 00:36:33,458 --> 00:36:35,875 which was very sophisticated, very astute. 810 00:36:35,959 --> 00:36:38,000 They had messages for everybody-- 811 00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:40,250 Black Lives Matter, white supremacists, 812 00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,291 pro-Muslims, anti-Muslims, 813 00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:43,875 pro-gun-control, anti-gun-control. 814 00:36:43,959 --> 00:36:46,333 It didn't matter. The Russians went after them. 815 00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,917 And their objections, we believe, 816 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,500 evolved over time, 817 00:36:51,583 --> 00:36:53,458 starting with the very strong personal animus 818 00:36:53,542 --> 00:36:56,500 that Vladimir Putin had towards Secretary Clinton, 819 00:36:56,583 --> 00:36:58,583 whom he held responsible for fomenting 820 00:36:58,667 --> 00:37:00,709 what he thought was a revolution 821 00:37:00,792 --> 00:37:03,291 during the election in Russia in 2011. 822 00:37:05,083 --> 00:37:06,959 So the Russians did all they could 823 00:37:07,041 --> 00:37:08,792 to undermine her. 824 00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:10,959 A revolt 825 00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:12,333 in the Democratic Party 826 00:37:12,417 --> 00:37:14,166 after hacked emails revealed 827 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:16,834 the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders. 828 00:37:16,917 --> 00:37:20,375 Will you people shut up? Save it for Trump! 829 00:37:20,458 --> 00:37:23,000 Russian intelligence hacked the DNC 830 00:37:23,083 --> 00:37:25,500 and set the pestilence of these emails out 831 00:37:25,583 --> 00:37:28,500 into the ecosystem of American politics. 832 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:30,542 On the eve of the convention, 833 00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:33,959 WikiLeaks released thousands of emails from the DNC. 834 00:37:34,041 --> 00:37:37,208 So if you go back to the Watergate break-in, 835 00:37:37,291 --> 00:37:39,250 a bunch of bad actors broke into 836 00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:40,792 the Democratic National Headquarters, 837 00:37:40,875 --> 00:37:42,125 digging up dirt. 838 00:37:42,959 --> 00:37:44,917 Here we are today. 839 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,750 A bunch of bad actors that happen to be Russians 840 00:37:47,834 --> 00:37:50,166 broke into the Democratic National Headquarters 841 00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:53,917 to dig up dirt and help elect Donald Trump. 842 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,542 I pledge 843 00:37:55,625 --> 00:37:57,875 that I will be president for all Americans. 844 00:38:00,333 --> 00:38:04,166 FBI, CIA, and NSA are on the same page on this, 845 00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:08,625 and frankly, FBI, CIA, and NSA rarely agree on anything. 846 00:38:08,709 --> 00:38:11,875 So we put together all of the reporting that we had 847 00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:15,417 on Russian interference in the run-up to the election, 848 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,291 put it in one document 849 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:18,667 called the Intelligence Community Assessment. 850 00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:24,417 And then we all took a very low-vis, low-profile 851 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:27,083 15-SUV column 852 00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:29,083 that took us down to Trump Tower, 853 00:38:29,166 --> 00:38:30,834 where we briefed out 854 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:32,250 our Intelligence Community Assessment 855 00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:33,959 to then-President-Elect Trump 856 00:38:34,041 --> 00:38:35,709 on Friday, January sixth. 857 00:38:41,041 --> 00:38:42,542 So when you went in to brief Trump... 858 00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:44,417 set the stage for us. 859 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,542 - What was the room like? - Well, I don't know. 860 00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:50,625 I guess it was about a 12x15-size room-- 861 00:38:50,709 --> 00:38:52,500 pretty small, had a conference table 862 00:38:52,583 --> 00:38:55,000 which accommodated, eight people, 863 00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:57,959 and then about six people along the side. 864 00:38:59,417 --> 00:39:01,417 I don't remember the colors of the wall. 865 00:39:05,834 --> 00:39:07,333 "We walked in a group, 866 00:39:07,417 --> 00:39:09,417 surrounded by our security people, 867 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:11,291 and entered the side-street entrance 868 00:39:11,375 --> 00:39:13,000 for the Trump Tower residences." 869 00:39:15,166 --> 00:39:17,208 "After all the live-TV images of job applicants 870 00:39:17,291 --> 00:39:19,250 and dignitaries coming and going 871 00:39:19,333 --> 00:39:21,375 through the gilded Fifth Avenue lobby 872 00:39:21,458 --> 00:39:24,875 as though on a reality TV show, 873 00:39:24,959 --> 00:39:27,208 the leaders of our country's biggest intelligence agencies 874 00:39:27,291 --> 00:39:30,333 were sneaking in to see the president-elect. 875 00:39:30,417 --> 00:39:31,917 We were sneaking in to tell him 876 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,291 what Russia had done to try to help elect him." 877 00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:37,959 The import 878 00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:39,417 of our Intelligence Community Assessment 879 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,834 really did, cast some doubt 880 00:39:41,917 --> 00:39:44,458 about the legitimacy of the election, 881 00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:46,500 so we were all a bit apprehensive 882 00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:50,291 about just what kind of a reaction we would get. 883 00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:53,000 When we completed our briefing, 884 00:39:53,083 --> 00:39:55,250 President Elect Trump and various other staff members 885 00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:57,875 started drafting a press release, 886 00:39:57,959 --> 00:39:59,875 you know, before we left the room, 887 00:39:59,959 --> 00:40:02,083 which was kind of unusual. 888 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:05,250 And what they wanted to say was that the Russian meddling 889 00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:08,458 had no impact on the election, 890 00:40:08,542 --> 00:40:11,125 and we tried to point out to them 891 00:40:11,208 --> 00:40:14,709 that we didn't say that. 892 00:40:14,792 --> 00:40:18,417 The president has repeatedly talked about 893 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,583 Russia's involvement as fake news. 894 00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:24,000 Can you talk a little bit about what you saw 895 00:40:24,083 --> 00:40:25,625 as FBI director? 896 00:40:25,709 --> 00:40:29,250 The Russians interfered in our election 897 00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:31,083 during the 2016 cycle. 898 00:40:31,166 --> 00:40:32,333 They did it with purpose. 899 00:40:32,417 --> 00:40:34,041 They did it with sophistication. 900 00:40:34,125 --> 00:40:35,625 It was an active-measures campaign 901 00:40:35,709 --> 00:40:37,166 driven from the top of that government. 902 00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:39,417 There is no fuzz on that. 903 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,417 Did the president, in any of those interactions, 904 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:45,125 ask you what you should be doing 905 00:40:45,208 --> 00:40:48,000 to protect America against Russian interference 906 00:40:48,083 --> 00:40:49,750 in our election system? 907 00:40:49,834 --> 00:40:51,750 I don't recall a conversation like that. 908 00:40:51,834 --> 00:40:53,542 Never? 909 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:54,792 No. 910 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:01,500 It's in the aftermath of that briefing 911 00:41:01,583 --> 00:41:04,041 that Comey pulls Trump aside 912 00:41:04,125 --> 00:41:06,375 and tells him about the dossier, 913 00:41:06,458 --> 00:41:08,166 this document that had been compiled 914 00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:09,959 by a former British spy 915 00:41:10,041 --> 00:41:12,083 on derogatory information the Russians had 916 00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:13,750 about the president. 917 00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:18,959 The dossier was not used at all 918 00:41:19,041 --> 00:41:20,834 to draw on as a source 919 00:41:20,917 --> 00:41:22,917 for the Intelligence Community Assessment. 920 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,959 We did include 921 00:41:25,041 --> 00:41:27,959 about a page-and-three-quarter summary of the dossier 922 00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:29,166 as an appendix, 923 00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:30,750 but not as an organic part 924 00:41:30,834 --> 00:41:32,959 of the Intelligence Community Assessment. 925 00:41:33,041 --> 00:41:35,959 And we just felt, the obligation or duty 926 00:41:36,041 --> 00:41:39,208 to warn the president that this thing was out there. 927 00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:41,375 And Jim asked if... 928 00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:43,583 he said, "I think it'd be better 929 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,417 if I did it by myself," and I-I was fine with that. 930 00:41:47,709 --> 00:41:50,041 The material included some wild stuff. 931 00:41:50,125 --> 00:41:52,458 Among that stuff were unconfirmed allegations 932 00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:54,500 that the president-elect had been engaged 933 00:41:54,583 --> 00:41:58,041 in unusual sexual activities with prostitutes in Russia 934 00:41:58,125 --> 00:42:01,667 while on a trip to Moscow in 2013. 935 00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:04,208 Another allegation was that these activities 936 00:42:04,291 --> 00:42:06,417 were filmed by Russian intelligence 937 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,083 for the possible purpose of blackmail 938 00:42:08,166 --> 00:42:10,667 against the president-elect. 939 00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:12,834 Jim Comey, and I think rightfully so, 940 00:42:12,917 --> 00:42:14,375 was concerned about 941 00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:16,417 the counterintelligence implications. 942 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,834 The Russians have a long history 943 00:42:18,917 --> 00:42:21,250 and are famous for using what they call "kompromat"-- 944 00:42:21,333 --> 00:42:23,792 compromising material-- 945 00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:27,375 which they might attempt to use for leverage. 946 00:42:27,458 --> 00:42:30,583 The mere fact that this stuff is out there 947 00:42:30,667 --> 00:42:32,500 is a problem 948 00:42:32,583 --> 00:42:35,583 that has to be managed from a security point of view. 949 00:42:35,667 --> 00:42:38,625 But Trump responds 950 00:42:38,709 --> 00:42:42,125 by denying specific components of it: 951 00:42:42,208 --> 00:42:45,583 whether he needs prostitutes or not. 952 00:42:45,667 --> 00:42:48,333 Trump is the kind of guy who tries to make his own reality. 953 00:42:48,417 --> 00:42:50,083 "It never happened, 954 00:42:50,166 --> 00:42:52,000 I don't know anything about Russia, 955 00:42:52,083 --> 00:42:54,000 and I have no business with Russians." 956 00:42:55,792 --> 00:42:58,291 I think that our intelligence agencies 957 00:42:58,375 --> 00:43:02,041 are giving the president advice that is colored 958 00:43:02,125 --> 00:43:06,166 by their agenda and their motivations. 959 00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,834 They began trying to get 960 00:43:07,917 --> 00:43:11,333 Donald Trump to run for president in 1988, 961 00:43:11,417 --> 00:43:13,542 again in 2000, 962 00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:17,500 again in 2012, and then finally, in 2016. 963 00:43:17,583 --> 00:43:20,291 I have worked for four presidents. 964 00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:24,250 I think I could only be called an adviser to three of them: 965 00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:26,041 Richard Nixon, 966 00:43:26,125 --> 00:43:27,500 Ronald Reagan, 967 00:43:27,583 --> 00:43:29,750 and Donald Trump. 968 00:43:29,834 --> 00:43:31,291 If you are the subject 969 00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:33,291 of a partisan witch hunt-- 970 00:43:33,375 --> 00:43:35,500 as I think Nixon was, 971 00:43:35,583 --> 00:43:38,000 as I think Trump now is-- 972 00:43:38,083 --> 00:43:40,500 then I-I think that you cannot trust 973 00:43:40,583 --> 00:43:43,125 in the intelligence agencies, 974 00:43:43,208 --> 00:43:44,750 and I suspect, 975 00:43:44,834 --> 00:43:46,667 that Mr. Comey was telling the president 976 00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:49,834 about the dossier as a way to threaten him. 977 00:43:51,709 --> 00:43:54,083 There was a real chance that Donald Trump 978 00:43:54,166 --> 00:43:56,750 would assume I was pulling a J. Edgar Hoover 979 00:43:56,834 --> 00:43:58,667 and dangling the prostitute thing over him 980 00:43:58,750 --> 00:44:01,250 to gain leverage. 981 00:44:01,333 --> 00:44:03,208 I decided I could assure the president-elect 982 00:44:03,291 --> 00:44:06,583 that the FBI was not currently investigating him. 983 00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:08,500 This was literally true 984 00:44:08,583 --> 00:44:11,083 but could be misleadingly narrow. 985 00:44:11,166 --> 00:44:14,583 But I also saw the bigger danger of the new president, 986 00:44:14,667 --> 00:44:16,291 who was known to be impulsive, 987 00:44:16,375 --> 00:44:19,583 going to war against the FBI. 988 00:44:19,667 --> 00:44:23,208 The FBI director is so concerned 989 00:44:23,291 --> 00:44:25,125 by this interaction 990 00:44:25,208 --> 00:44:28,375 that he gets into the FBI car 991 00:44:28,458 --> 00:44:30,250 and immediately memorializes it. 992 00:44:35,417 --> 00:44:36,750 It's the first memo 993 00:44:36,834 --> 00:44:39,166 in a series of ones that Comey made 994 00:44:39,250 --> 00:44:42,250 about every single interaction he had with the president. 995 00:44:47,333 --> 00:44:51,583 He's asked, "Why'd you feel the need to write it down?" 996 00:44:51,667 --> 00:44:54,500 And he says, "It's because of the nature of the person." 997 00:45:06,959 --> 00:45:08,834 CNN has learned 998 00:45:08,917 --> 00:45:10,834 that the nation's top intelligence officials 999 00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:14,125 provided information to President-Elect Donald Trump 1000 00:45:14,208 --> 00:45:16,583 about claims of Russian efforts 1001 00:45:16,667 --> 00:45:19,125 to compromise President-Elect Trump. 1002 00:45:19,208 --> 00:45:22,041 ...including a claim of sexual activity 1003 00:45:22,125 --> 00:45:25,458 caught on a Moscow hotel room surveillance camera. 1004 00:45:27,667 --> 00:45:28,875 Go ahead. -First of all, 1005 00:45:28,959 --> 00:45:31,000 did the heads of the intelligence agencies 1006 00:45:31,083 --> 00:45:32,750 provide you with a two-page summary 1007 00:45:32,834 --> 00:45:34,709 of these unsubstantiated allegations? 1008 00:45:34,792 --> 00:45:36,333 These meetings, as you know, are confidential, 1009 00:45:36,417 --> 00:45:38,208 classified, so I'm not allowed 1010 00:45:38,291 --> 00:45:40,875 to talk about what went on in a meeting, 1011 00:45:40,959 --> 00:45:43,667 but I will say I think it's a disgrace 1012 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:47,375 that the intelligence agencies allowed any information 1013 00:45:47,458 --> 00:45:51,041 that turned out to be so false and fake out, 1014 00:45:51,125 --> 00:45:52,583 and that's something that 1015 00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:54,834 Nazi Germany would've done and did do. 1016 00:45:54,917 --> 00:45:56,458 He had 1017 00:45:56,542 --> 00:45:58,166 a news conference 1018 00:45:58,250 --> 00:46:00,166 in which he characterized the intelligence community 1019 00:46:00,250 --> 00:46:01,959 as Nazis, 1020 00:46:02,041 --> 00:46:05,208 blaming us for, putting out the dossier, 1021 00:46:05,291 --> 00:46:07,834 which was nonsensical. 1022 00:46:07,917 --> 00:46:09,875 The dossier is not an intelligence document. 1023 00:46:09,959 --> 00:46:11,291 It wasn't classified. 1024 00:46:11,375 --> 00:46:12,667 You know, it had nothing to do with 1025 00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:14,500 the intelligence community. 1026 00:46:14,583 --> 00:46:16,959 Naive me, I tried to appeal to his higher instincts, 1027 00:46:17,041 --> 00:46:20,250 I guess, and I asked that he not refer to, you know, 1028 00:46:20,333 --> 00:46:21,667 the intelligence community as Nazis. 1029 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:24,041 What was his reaction? 1030 00:46:24,125 --> 00:46:26,500 He said, you know, "Thanks, yeah, they're great," 1031 00:46:26,583 --> 00:46:29,291 and all that, but his--his i- main interest was in 1032 00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:32,583 my, issuing a statement rebutting the, dossier, 1033 00:46:32,667 --> 00:46:35,333 which I-I really couldn't do... 1034 00:46:35,417 --> 00:46:37,208 and didn't. 1035 00:46:37,291 --> 00:46:38,917 Go ahead. 1036 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,250 What do you say to foreign policy experts 1037 00:46:41,333 --> 00:46:44,458 who say you're actually weakening national security 1038 00:46:44,542 --> 00:46:46,625 by waging this war of words 1039 00:46:46,709 --> 00:46:49,125 against your U.S. intelligence community? 1040 00:46:49,208 --> 00:46:51,792 And there's actually a fairly fine line 1041 00:46:51,875 --> 00:46:55,000 between democracy and autocracy, 1042 00:46:55,083 --> 00:46:56,667 and if we're not sensitive 1043 00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:59,333 and don't protect those institutions, 1044 00:46:59,417 --> 00:47:01,709 you're in trouble. 1045 00:47:01,792 --> 00:47:03,917 Well, you know, President Putin 1046 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,250 and Russia put out a statement today that this, fake news 1047 00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:07,792 was indeed fake news. 1048 00:47:07,875 --> 00:47:09,667 They said it totally never happened. 1049 00:47:11,834 --> 00:47:15,291 Russia will have much greater respect 1050 00:47:15,375 --> 00:47:18,000 for our country when I'm leading it 1051 00:47:18,083 --> 00:47:19,750 than when other people have led it. 1052 00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,166 The Russians, in an unbelievable 1053 00:47:26,250 --> 00:47:29,000 and unprecedented attack on American democracy, 1054 00:47:29,083 --> 00:47:31,667 hacked the election 1055 00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:34,375 with the intent of throwing it to Trump-- 1056 00:47:34,458 --> 00:47:37,375 with the intent of disrupting American democracy. 1057 00:47:39,875 --> 00:47:43,959 Jim Comey, he knows that the time will come, 1058 00:47:44,041 --> 00:47:48,291 about five minutes after inauguration, 1059 00:47:48,375 --> 00:47:51,125 that he's gonna be investigating the White House, 1060 00:47:51,208 --> 00:47:54,125 that he's gonna be investigating the president, 1061 00:47:54,208 --> 00:47:58,000 and that a terrible confrontation is in store. 1062 00:47:58,083 --> 00:48:01,959 Please raise your right hand and repeat after me. 1063 00:48:02,041 --> 00:48:04,792 "I, Donald John Trump do solemnly swear"... 1064 00:48:15,291 --> 00:48:17,125 Ever since Watergate, 1065 00:48:17,208 --> 00:48:18,917 the country has recognized 1066 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,083 that the Justice Department and FBI 1067 00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:25,208 have to have some form of independence 1068 00:48:25,291 --> 00:48:27,166 from the White House and the president, 1069 00:48:27,250 --> 00:48:29,875 especially when the White House and the president 1070 00:48:29,959 --> 00:48:32,000 are being investigated. 1071 00:48:32,083 --> 00:48:33,959 So we're already in a fraught situation 1072 00:48:34,041 --> 00:48:36,417 where the Justice Department itself is investigating 1073 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,625 the campaign of the president in a close election, 1074 00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:41,166 but Trump from the very beginning 1075 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:43,959 seemed to have an attitude that was indifferent 1076 00:48:44,041 --> 00:48:46,083 to these independence norms. 1077 00:48:49,166 --> 00:48:51,125 The inauguration was such a success 1078 00:48:51,208 --> 00:48:53,333 and such a safety success, 1079 00:48:53,417 --> 00:48:55,959 and we wanna thank you all, because it was really 1080 00:48:56,041 --> 00:48:58,041 a very, very special experience. 1081 00:48:58,125 --> 00:49:00,333 Right after the inauguration, 1082 00:49:00,417 --> 00:49:03,709 Trump has the heads of the law enforcement agencies 1083 00:49:03,792 --> 00:49:06,417 that did security for his swearing in 1084 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,375 to the White House for an event, 1085 00:49:08,458 --> 00:49:10,375 and Comey is very concerned 1086 00:49:10,458 --> 00:49:13,333 about being seen on camera with the president, 1087 00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:15,750 especially when the FBI is supposed to be insulated 1088 00:49:15,834 --> 00:49:17,417 from politics. 1089 00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,458 But Comey, who's six-foot-eight, 1090 00:49:19,542 --> 00:49:21,083 is noticed by the president. -Let's... 1091 00:49:21,166 --> 00:49:23,250 and there's-- James, come here, 1092 00:49:23,333 --> 00:49:24,500 will you, please? 1093 00:49:24,583 --> 00:49:26,125 He's become more famous than me. 1094 00:49:29,792 --> 00:49:31,875 My wife, Patrice, has known me since I was 19. 1095 00:49:31,959 --> 00:49:33,792 Back at our home, she was watching TV 1096 00:49:33,875 --> 00:49:35,709 and pointing at the screen. 1097 00:49:35,792 --> 00:49:38,417 "That's Jim's 'shit' face." 1098 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:39,458 Yes, it was. 1099 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,667 The president leaned in 1100 00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:48,959 and put his mouth near my right ear. 1101 00:49:49,041 --> 00:49:51,458 "I'm really looking forward to working with you," he said. 1102 00:49:51,542 --> 00:49:53,500 Unfortunately, 1103 00:49:53,583 --> 00:49:55,667 because of the vantage point of the TV cameras, 1104 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:58,166 what many in the world thought they saw was a kiss. 1105 00:50:00,417 --> 00:50:03,333 To have this flamboyant display of embrace 1106 00:50:03,417 --> 00:50:05,709 made Jim concerned about the public confidence 1107 00:50:05,792 --> 00:50:09,083 in the integrity of the FBI 1108 00:50:09,166 --> 00:50:10,166 at a time when 1109 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:11,875 his own position was, 1110 00:50:11,959 --> 00:50:14,125 in the eyes of a lot of people, 1111 00:50:14,208 --> 00:50:15,458 politically suspect. 1112 00:50:15,542 --> 00:50:17,625 Jim believed it was an attempt 1113 00:50:17,709 --> 00:50:19,458 to compromise him-- 1114 00:50:19,542 --> 00:50:22,291 to make him look political, 1115 00:50:22,375 --> 00:50:26,208 to make him look close to Trump 1116 00:50:26,291 --> 00:50:29,125 in a fashion that would further convince 1117 00:50:29,208 --> 00:50:31,166 people who had supported Hilary Clinton 1118 00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:32,750 that he had put a thumb on the scale 1119 00:50:32,834 --> 00:50:34,750 during the election 1120 00:50:34,834 --> 00:50:37,625 by his performance in the Hilary Clinton email matters. 1121 00:50:44,583 --> 00:50:47,792 I am running for president of the United States! 1122 00:50:52,208 --> 00:50:55,208 In 2015, the FBI opened 1123 00:50:55,291 --> 00:50:57,291 the Clinton email investigation, 1124 00:50:57,375 --> 00:51:01,041 looking at Clinton using a personal email account 1125 00:51:01,125 --> 00:51:04,041 when she was secretary of state. 1126 00:51:04,125 --> 00:51:07,083 This was an investigation that was during the campaign, 1127 00:51:07,166 --> 00:51:10,333 and it was being looked at in a political lens 1128 00:51:10,417 --> 00:51:12,750 by the country. 1129 00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:16,375 Comey knew that the stakes were very high, and he felt 1130 00:51:16,458 --> 00:51:18,709 unnerved by some things the Justice Department had done 1131 00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:20,333 in the course of the investigation, 1132 00:51:20,417 --> 00:51:21,792 which made him wonder 1133 00:51:21,875 --> 00:51:23,709 whether their political leanings 1134 00:51:23,792 --> 00:51:26,917 were gonna get in the way of the investigation. 1135 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,792 Things that looked funky, 1136 00:51:28,875 --> 00:51:30,792 like Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton 1137 00:51:30,875 --> 00:51:33,208 on the tarmac in Arizona. 1138 00:51:33,291 --> 00:51:35,542 Okay, what's with this? 1139 00:51:35,625 --> 00:51:38,083 Loretta Lynch met with President Bill Clinton 1140 00:51:38,166 --> 00:51:39,834 on the tarmac of a Phoenix airport 1141 00:51:39,917 --> 00:51:41,375 for 30 minutes. 1142 00:51:41,458 --> 00:51:43,125 Because of the ongoing federal investigation 1143 00:51:43,208 --> 00:51:44,959 into Hillary Clinton's emails, that meeting 1144 00:51:45,041 --> 00:51:46,959 has now become a major problem. 1145 00:51:47,041 --> 00:51:49,250 As the firestorm grew in the media, 1146 00:51:49,333 --> 00:51:51,667 I paid more attention, watching it become 1147 00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:53,208 another corrosive talking point 1148 00:51:53,291 --> 00:51:55,041 about how the Obama Justice Department 1149 00:51:55,125 --> 00:51:56,542 couldn't be trusted to complete 1150 00:51:56,625 --> 00:51:58,542 the Clinton email investigation. 1151 00:51:58,625 --> 00:52:00,125 Mr. Director. 1152 00:52:00,208 --> 00:52:02,166 Comey felt that the FBI 1153 00:52:02,250 --> 00:52:04,625 needed to put distance between itself 1154 00:52:04,709 --> 00:52:07,083 and the Justice Department. 1155 00:52:07,166 --> 00:52:09,166 You have to understand the relationship. 1156 00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:13,125 The FBI conducts investigations. 1157 00:52:13,208 --> 00:52:17,583 Justice Department lawyers then decide 1158 00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:20,625 what charges can or cannot be brought 1159 00:52:20,709 --> 00:52:24,333 based on those findings. 1160 00:52:24,417 --> 00:52:26,750 The FBI had interviewed Hillary Clinton, 1161 00:52:26,834 --> 00:52:28,291 and they'd come to the conclusion 1162 00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:30,834 that they didn't think she should be prosecuted, 1163 00:52:30,917 --> 00:52:33,959 but instead of quietly sending that recommendation 1164 00:52:34,041 --> 00:52:36,000 over to the Justice Department, 1165 00:52:36,083 --> 00:52:38,125 Comey held a press conference. 1166 00:52:43,834 --> 00:52:45,375 Good morning. 1167 00:52:45,458 --> 00:52:47,417 This is going to be an unusual statement 1168 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,375 in at least a couple of ways. 1169 00:52:49,458 --> 00:52:50,875 First, I'm going to include 1170 00:52:50,959 --> 00:52:52,250 more detail about our process 1171 00:52:52,333 --> 00:52:54,125 than I ordinarily would, 1172 00:52:54,208 --> 00:52:55,709 because I think the American people 1173 00:52:55,792 --> 00:52:57,250 deserve those details 1174 00:52:57,333 --> 00:52:58,959 in a case of intense public interest. 1175 00:53:01,834 --> 00:53:03,875 Transparency had been something 1176 00:53:03,959 --> 00:53:06,542 that had benefited Comey enormously 1177 00:53:06,625 --> 00:53:11,000 in the run-up to him taking over as FBI director. 1178 00:53:11,083 --> 00:53:13,667 In the years after he left the Justice Department 1179 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:15,291 under the Bush administration, 1180 00:53:15,375 --> 00:53:17,959 he had publicly testified about a program 1181 00:53:18,041 --> 00:53:19,625 that he thought was illegal. 1182 00:53:19,709 --> 00:53:21,917 Just assume--you thought something was wrong. 1183 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,750 Yes. -Right. 1184 00:53:23,834 --> 00:53:25,709 And by airing this out publicly, 1185 00:53:25,792 --> 00:53:27,166 Comey was able to get 1186 00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:29,250 the stain of the Bush administration 1187 00:53:29,333 --> 00:53:31,291 off of him and make himself 1188 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,041 appear as a whistleblower, 1189 00:53:33,125 --> 00:53:35,667 so when Obama appoints him 1190 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:37,333 as FBI director, 1191 00:53:37,417 --> 00:53:39,667 he cites this in his statement. 1192 00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:42,542 To know Jim Comey is also to know his fierce independence 1193 00:53:42,625 --> 00:53:45,750 and his deep integrity. When it's mattered most, 1194 00:53:45,834 --> 00:53:48,500 he joined Bob in standing up for what he believed was right. 1195 00:53:48,583 --> 00:53:50,792 He was prepared to give up the job he loved 1196 00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:52,166 rather than be part of something 1197 00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:53,333 he felt was fundamentally wrong. 1198 00:53:56,083 --> 00:53:57,458 So as he comes 1199 00:53:57,542 --> 00:53:58,959 into the Clinton email investigation, 1200 00:53:59,041 --> 00:54:00,667 transparency is something 1201 00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:03,000 that had really benefited Comey a lot 1202 00:54:03,083 --> 00:54:04,667 throughout his entire career, 1203 00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:07,250 and as he's faced with these different decisions, 1204 00:54:07,333 --> 00:54:09,834 he goes back to run the same play. 1205 00:54:09,917 --> 00:54:12,166 The problem is, in doing that, 1206 00:54:12,250 --> 00:54:14,458 he really undermined himself. 1207 00:54:16,667 --> 00:54:19,125 Although we did not find clear evidence 1208 00:54:19,208 --> 00:54:21,000 that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues 1209 00:54:21,083 --> 00:54:23,083 intended to violate laws 1210 00:54:23,166 --> 00:54:25,750 governing the handling of classified information, 1211 00:54:25,834 --> 00:54:27,208 there is evidence 1212 00:54:27,291 --> 00:54:28,917 that they were extremely careless. 1213 00:54:30,333 --> 00:54:33,291 It's awkward in the extreme. 1214 00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:35,625 Comey made it awkward in the extreme. 1215 00:54:35,709 --> 00:54:37,750 He gratuitously said 1216 00:54:37,834 --> 00:54:40,709 she had been "extremely careless" 1217 00:54:40,792 --> 00:54:42,834 in her handling of classified emails. 1218 00:54:42,917 --> 00:54:46,041 Well, carelessness is not a federal crime. 1219 00:54:46,125 --> 00:54:49,959 I didn't dissent from his decision to do it... 1220 00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:53,291 ...but I was very concerned 1221 00:54:53,375 --> 00:54:56,291 about the precedent that it would set. 1222 00:54:56,375 --> 00:54:57,542 There's something really horrible 1223 00:54:57,625 --> 00:54:59,750 about having 1224 00:54:59,834 --> 00:55:01,959 a senior law enforcement official 1225 00:55:02,041 --> 00:55:04,166 evaluating the conduct of somebody in public 1226 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:07,291 whom he is not going to charge, and I have a 1227 00:55:07,375 --> 00:55:10,583 sort of civil liberties anxiety about that. 1228 00:55:10,667 --> 00:55:14,083 Although there is evidence of potential violations 1229 00:55:14,166 --> 00:55:15,834 of the statues regarding the handling 1230 00:55:15,917 --> 00:55:17,458 of classified information, 1231 00:55:17,542 --> 00:55:20,333 our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor 1232 00:55:20,417 --> 00:55:22,125 would bring such a case. 1233 00:55:22,208 --> 00:55:23,750 I remember Director Comey-- one of the words 1234 00:55:23,834 --> 00:55:25,417 was "no reasonable prosecutor" 1235 00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,625 would, um, file charges. 1236 00:55:27,709 --> 00:55:30,166 The FBI, typically--you do your investigative report, 1237 00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:32,291 turn it over to the U.S. Attorney's office, 1238 00:55:32,375 --> 00:55:34,208 or in this case, to the Department of Justice, 1239 00:55:34,291 --> 00:55:35,875 let them make the decision. 1240 00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:38,083 The July announcement by Director Comey 1241 00:55:38,166 --> 00:55:40,625 was certainly outside the normal rulebook, 1242 00:55:40,709 --> 00:55:42,792 and, um, certainly surprised a lot of people. 1243 00:55:42,875 --> 00:55:45,375 There wasn't any advance warning that it was coming. 1244 00:55:45,458 --> 00:55:47,291 People have certainly 1245 00:55:47,375 --> 00:55:49,667 lost some confidence in the FBI over this, 1246 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:52,166 and it's been a-- a difficult time. 1247 00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:56,583 When the FBI director 1248 00:55:56,667 --> 00:55:59,458 says that the secretary of state 1249 00:55:59,542 --> 00:56:03,458 was extremely careless and negligent 1250 00:56:03,542 --> 00:56:06,834 in handling our classified secrets, 1251 00:56:06,917 --> 00:56:09,500 I know that these terms 1252 00:56:09,583 --> 00:56:11,208 are minor 1253 00:56:11,291 --> 00:56:13,375 compared to what she actually did. 1254 00:56:13,458 --> 00:56:15,250 They were just used 1255 00:56:15,333 --> 00:56:18,625 to save her from facing justice 1256 00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:21,500 for her terrible, terrible crimes. 1257 00:56:24,458 --> 00:56:27,250 Lock her up! Lock her up! 1258 00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:29,583 Lock her up! Lock her up! 1259 00:56:29,667 --> 00:56:32,417 Lock her up! Lock her up! 1260 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:35,291 Lock her up! Lock her up! 1261 00:56:44,875 --> 00:56:47,417 Ten days before the election, Comey 1262 00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:49,792 took another extraordinary measure. 1263 00:56:49,875 --> 00:56:51,500 He sent a letter to Congress 1264 00:56:51,583 --> 00:56:52,625 saying that the bureau 1265 00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:53,709 had reopened 1266 00:56:53,792 --> 00:56:55,250 the email investigation... 1267 00:56:58,375 --> 00:57:00,000 As part of a different case, 1268 00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:01,250 Anthony Weiner, 1269 00:57:01,333 --> 00:57:03,542 the former husband 1270 00:57:03,625 --> 00:57:05,125 of Huma Abedin, 1271 00:57:05,208 --> 00:57:06,917 Hillary's closest aide, 1272 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,417 had provided a laptop to the authorities, 1273 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,375 and the FBI saw what they thought 1274 00:57:12,458 --> 00:57:15,959 were Hillary Clinton's emails. 1275 00:57:16,041 --> 00:57:18,500 Once you've said publicly 1276 00:57:18,583 --> 00:57:20,667 this investigation was finished, 1277 00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:24,625 the day you make a liar out of yourself 1278 00:57:24,709 --> 00:57:26,583 and go after new evidence, 1279 00:57:26,667 --> 00:57:28,709 you have some duty to-- 1280 00:57:28,792 --> 00:57:31,875 to let people know about that. 1281 00:57:31,959 --> 00:57:34,834 Assuming, as nearly everyone did, 1282 00:57:34,917 --> 00:57:36,333 that Hillary Clinton would be elected 1283 00:57:36,417 --> 00:57:37,083 President of the United States 1284 00:57:37,166 --> 00:57:38,333 in less than two weeks, 1285 00:57:38,417 --> 00:57:41,500 what would happen to the FBI 1286 00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:43,375 or her own presidency 1287 00:57:43,458 --> 00:57:45,083 if it later was revealed 1288 00:57:45,166 --> 00:57:46,625 after the fact 1289 00:57:46,709 --> 00:57:48,375 that she was still a subject 1290 00:57:48,458 --> 00:57:50,917 of an FBI investigation? 1291 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000 Comey feels, 1292 00:57:52,083 --> 00:57:54,375 rightly or wrongly, 1293 00:57:54,458 --> 00:57:56,625 a legal obligation to inform Congress 1294 00:57:56,709 --> 00:57:59,750 that, indeed, the needle has moved, 1295 00:57:59,834 --> 00:58:02,709 not knowing whether there's any "there" there 1296 00:58:02,792 --> 00:58:05,792 within in the emails, but knowing full well 1297 00:58:05,875 --> 00:58:07,750 that once he sends this one-page letter, 1298 00:58:07,834 --> 00:58:09,583 the Republicans on the Hill 1299 00:58:09,667 --> 00:58:12,375 will leak it nanoseconds later. 1300 00:58:12,458 --> 00:58:15,166 Clinton is conceivably doomed. 1301 00:58:15,250 --> 00:58:17,500 It took guts 1302 00:58:17,583 --> 00:58:19,542 for Director Comey 1303 00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:22,000 to make the move that he made 1304 00:58:22,083 --> 00:58:24,583 in light of the kind of opposition he had, 1305 00:58:24,667 --> 00:58:26,917 where they're trying to protect her 1306 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,375 from criminal prosecution. 1307 00:58:28,458 --> 00:58:30,250 You know that. 1308 00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:31,959 You think Comey made a mistake? 1309 00:58:32,041 --> 00:58:33,166 I do. 1310 00:58:33,250 --> 00:58:34,166 Why? 1311 00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:37,667 The idea that the FBI 1312 00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:40,458 was wading into the politics of that moment 1313 00:58:40,542 --> 00:58:42,583 is tremendously damaging 1314 00:58:42,667 --> 00:58:44,542 to the reputation of the FBI. 1315 00:58:44,625 --> 00:58:46,542 It took a lot of guts. 1316 00:58:46,625 --> 00:58:48,041 I was not his fan, 1317 00:58:48,125 --> 00:58:50,417 but I'll tell you what. What he did-- 1318 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:51,875 he brought back his reputation. 1319 00:58:56,125 --> 00:58:59,208 Comey is in a very tough position. 1320 00:58:59,291 --> 00:59:00,625 The man in charge 1321 00:59:00,709 --> 00:59:02,458 of the Russia investigation 1322 00:59:02,542 --> 00:59:04,667 is now seen as a political actor. 1323 00:59:10,667 --> 00:59:12,166 By this time, 1324 00:59:12,250 --> 00:59:14,083 the FBI investigation 1325 00:59:14,166 --> 00:59:16,458 into Russian meddling 1326 00:59:16,542 --> 00:59:18,917 has been going on for six months. 1327 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,625 It's code-named "Crossfire Hurricane." 1328 00:59:21,709 --> 00:59:23,458 At the heart of the Russian 1329 00:59:23,542 --> 00:59:25,083 interference campaign 1330 00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:26,834 was the release of damaging emails 1331 00:59:26,917 --> 00:59:29,500 associated with the Democratic Party. 1332 00:59:29,583 --> 00:59:31,959 In late July, the FBI learned 1333 00:59:32,041 --> 00:59:34,125 that a Trump campaign foreign policy advisor 1334 00:59:34,208 --> 00:59:36,667 named George Papadopoulos 1335 00:59:36,750 --> 00:59:39,291 had been discussing obtaining from the Russian government 1336 00:59:39,375 --> 00:59:41,583 emails damaging to Hillary Clinton. 1337 00:59:41,667 --> 00:59:43,542 Based on this information, 1338 00:59:43,625 --> 00:59:45,667 the FBI opened an investigation 1339 00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:48,083 to try to understand whether Americans, 1340 00:59:48,166 --> 00:59:50,834 including any associated with the Trump campaign, 1341 00:59:50,917 --> 00:59:53,458 were working in any way with the Russians 1342 00:59:53,542 --> 00:59:55,291 in their influence effort. 1343 00:59:55,375 --> 00:59:57,542 Comey knows that Flynn, 1344 00:59:57,625 --> 00:59:59,875 the national security advisor 1345 00:59:59,959 --> 01:00:02,792 to President Trump, has ties to Russia. 1346 01:00:02,875 --> 01:00:05,333 The FBI is looking at him very closely 1347 01:00:05,417 --> 01:00:09,291 whether he is in any way under the influence 1348 01:00:09,375 --> 01:00:11,125 of Vladimir Putin. 1349 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:12,375 The Russians were going 1350 01:00:12,458 --> 01:00:13,458 to try to co-opt, 1351 01:00:13,542 --> 01:00:14,583 influence, gain leverage-- 1352 01:00:14,667 --> 01:00:15,750 whatever they could do. 1353 01:00:15,834 --> 01:00:17,875 They attempted to woo me, 1354 01:00:17,959 --> 01:00:19,875 and I... 1355 01:00:19,959 --> 01:00:22,125 ...saw them doing that with, General Flynn, 1356 01:00:22,208 --> 01:00:24,041 and I just kind of 1357 01:00:24,125 --> 01:00:27,083 offered some fatherly advice about my own experience. 1358 01:00:27,166 --> 01:00:30,041 And do you think he took that advice to heart? 1359 01:00:30,125 --> 01:00:31,000 No. 1360 01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:34,291 On January 24th, 1361 01:00:34,375 --> 01:00:35,917 as part of our continuing investigation 1362 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,959 of Russian influence efforts, 1363 01:00:38,041 --> 01:00:40,125 I dispatched two agents to the White House 1364 01:00:40,208 --> 01:00:41,792 to interview Flynn about his conversations 1365 01:00:41,875 --> 01:00:43,458 with the Russians. 1366 01:00:43,542 --> 01:00:45,083 He lied to the agents. 1367 01:00:45,166 --> 01:00:48,792 Mike Flynn, for reasons we do not understand yet, 1368 01:00:48,875 --> 01:00:50,834 lies to the FBI 1369 01:00:50,917 --> 01:00:52,792 about his Russia contacts. 1370 01:00:52,875 --> 01:00:56,375 Lying to the FBI is, of course, a crime. 1371 01:00:56,458 --> 01:00:58,542 Two days later, 1372 01:00:58,625 --> 01:01:00,083 the acting attorney general, 1373 01:01:00,166 --> 01:01:02,792 Sally Yates, warns the White House 1374 01:01:02,875 --> 01:01:04,917 that Flynn has lied to the FBI, 1375 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,250 that he is susceptible to blackmail 1376 01:01:07,333 --> 01:01:08,792 by the Russians. 1377 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:11,917 The next day, 1378 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,792 the phone rings in Jim Comey's office. 1379 01:01:14,875 --> 01:01:16,625 The President of the United States 1380 01:01:16,709 --> 01:01:17,792 would like to have him for dinner. 1381 01:01:20,208 --> 01:01:23,291 Mr. Comey, prior to January 27th 1382 01:01:23,375 --> 01:01:24,875 of this year, 1383 01:01:24,959 --> 01:01:27,125 have you ever had a private dinner 1384 01:01:27,208 --> 01:01:30,125 with a President of the United States? 1385 01:01:30,208 --> 01:01:31,125 No. 1386 01:01:31,208 --> 01:01:32,959 How unusual is it to have 1387 01:01:33,041 --> 01:01:35,583 a-a one-one-one dinner 1388 01:01:35,667 --> 01:01:38,250 with the president? Did that strike you as odd? 1389 01:01:38,333 --> 01:01:41,375 Yeah, so much so that I assumed there would be others, 1390 01:01:41,458 --> 01:01:43,792 that he couldn't possibly be having dinner with me alone. 1391 01:01:43,875 --> 01:01:46,333 If you had behaved differently in that dinner, 1392 01:01:46,417 --> 01:01:49,417 do you think you would have still been fired? 1393 01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:50,625 I don't know. 1394 01:01:50,709 --> 01:01:52,417 I--it--it's impossible to say, 1395 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:54,000 looking back. I don't know. 1396 01:01:59,917 --> 01:02:01,792 At some point early on, 1397 01:02:01,875 --> 01:02:03,417 Trump asked bluntly, 1398 01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:05,458 "So what do you want to do?" 1399 01:02:05,542 --> 01:02:07,500 It was an odd question that I didn't 1400 01:02:07,583 --> 01:02:09,333 entirely understand at first, 1401 01:02:09,417 --> 01:02:10,667 but without waiting for an answer, 1402 01:02:10,750 --> 01:02:12,041 he launched into a monologue 1403 01:02:12,125 --> 01:02:13,291 that made it crystal-clear 1404 01:02:13,375 --> 01:02:14,625 what he was referring to: 1405 01:02:14,709 --> 01:02:18,083 whether I wanted to keep my job. 1406 01:02:18,166 --> 01:02:20,208 With a serious look on his face, he said, 1407 01:02:20,291 --> 01:02:22,417 "I need loyalty. 1408 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:24,417 I expect loyalty." 1409 01:02:27,291 --> 01:02:29,291 During the silence that followed, 1410 01:02:29,375 --> 01:02:32,000 I didn't move, speak, 1411 01:02:32,083 --> 01:02:34,625 or change my facial expression in any way. 1412 01:02:36,375 --> 01:02:37,834 It's the two of them 1413 01:02:37,917 --> 01:02:40,417 under the chandelier, alone in the Green Room, 1414 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:43,333 dining over shrimp scampi, 1415 01:02:43,417 --> 01:02:45,458 and at some point, 1416 01:02:45,542 --> 01:02:49,125 Comey has an out-of-body experience, 1417 01:02:49,208 --> 01:02:52,834 and he's flashing back on his early career, 1418 01:02:52,917 --> 01:02:54,542 interrogating, investigating, 1419 01:02:54,625 --> 01:02:58,291 and prosecuting mafiosi. 1420 01:02:58,375 --> 01:03:00,875 He's looking at the president, but he's seeing Sammy 1421 01:03:00,959 --> 01:03:02,166 "The Bull" Gravano, 1422 01:03:02,250 --> 01:03:03,500 listening to a don 1423 01:03:03,583 --> 01:03:07,125 saying "I need loyalty. 1424 01:03:07,208 --> 01:03:10,625 I need your loyalty." 1425 01:03:10,709 --> 01:03:13,125 It's gonna make a great movie. 1426 01:03:13,208 --> 01:03:14,625 It's not surprising 1427 01:03:14,709 --> 01:03:16,959 that a president would want loyalty 1428 01:03:17,041 --> 01:03:19,166 from a subordinate. It is extremely surprising, 1429 01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:20,875 and stupid on Trump's part, 1430 01:03:20,959 --> 01:03:24,625 to overtly ask for loyalty from Comey, 1431 01:03:24,709 --> 01:03:26,125 because first of all, 1432 01:03:26,208 --> 01:03:27,792 it looks like Trump is trying 1433 01:03:27,875 --> 01:03:30,083 to protect himself from scrutiny. 1434 01:03:30,166 --> 01:03:30,875 Second of all, 1435 01:03:30,959 --> 01:03:32,333 there's no way 1436 01:03:32,417 --> 01:03:34,458 that anyone in Comey's position, 1437 01:03:34,542 --> 01:03:36,250 and especially Jim Comey, 1438 01:03:36,333 --> 01:03:38,875 can give him the loyalty that he thinks he needs 1439 01:03:38,959 --> 01:03:40,709 when there's an investigation going on, 1440 01:03:40,792 --> 01:03:42,250 and Comey's got a job to do, and he's running 1441 01:03:42,333 --> 01:03:44,333 the FBI. 1442 01:03:44,417 --> 01:03:46,667 I was determined not to give the president 1443 01:03:46,750 --> 01:03:49,375 any hint of assent to this demand, 1444 01:03:49,458 --> 01:03:50,875 so I gave silence instead. 1445 01:03:53,083 --> 01:03:55,041 He then returned to the issue of loyalty, 1446 01:03:55,125 --> 01:03:58,542 saying again, "I need loyalty." 1447 01:03:59,333 --> 01:04:01,709 I paused again. 1448 01:04:01,792 --> 01:04:05,000 "You will always get honesty from me," I said. 1449 01:04:05,083 --> 01:04:08,291 He paused. "That's what I want: 1450 01:04:08,375 --> 01:04:10,625 honest loyalty," he said. 1451 01:04:10,709 --> 01:04:13,417 This appeared to satisfy him as some sort of deal 1452 01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:15,417 in which we were both winners. 1453 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:19,041 "You will get that from me," I said. 1454 01:04:19,125 --> 01:04:22,709 Jim has said that he muffed the situation, 1455 01:04:22,792 --> 01:04:25,959 um, and that he regrets, in retrospect, 1456 01:04:26,041 --> 01:04:28,375 compromising with the president 1457 01:04:28,458 --> 01:04:30,750 on "honest loyalty." 1458 01:04:30,834 --> 01:04:32,333 I agree with him. I think-- 1459 01:04:32,417 --> 01:04:34,625 I think, ideally, 1460 01:04:34,709 --> 01:04:37,417 the right way to do it would've been to say, 1461 01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,125 "Nope. Sorry, Mr. President. 1462 01:04:39,208 --> 01:04:41,166 I cannot oblige you on the loyalty thing. 1463 01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:43,000 You know. Sorry. 1464 01:04:43,083 --> 01:04:46,041 You know, maybe you have to fire me now, but, 1465 01:04:46,125 --> 01:04:48,792 like, I don't--loyalty is-- that's just not what I do. 1466 01:04:48,875 --> 01:04:49,959 I have an oath to the Constitution. 1467 01:04:50,041 --> 01:04:51,250 End of story." 1468 01:04:53,709 --> 01:04:56,041 I think it is interesting 1469 01:04:56,125 --> 01:04:59,250 that nobody else has told a story like this, 1470 01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:01,208 and I doubt very much it's because 1471 01:05:01,291 --> 01:05:02,667 nobody else has been asked 1472 01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:05,625 for a loyalty oath, 1473 01:05:05,709 --> 01:05:07,917 and I want to know 1474 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,417 who exactly in the federal government 1475 01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:11,875 did better than Jim, 1476 01:05:11,959 --> 01:05:13,917 faced one-on-one with the president, 1477 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,625 asked for loyalty. 1478 01:05:22,834 --> 01:05:24,542 Embattled national security advisor 1479 01:05:24,625 --> 01:05:26,000 General Michael Flynn 1480 01:05:26,083 --> 01:05:27,792 stepping down Monday night. 1481 01:05:27,875 --> 01:05:29,208 Michael Flynn forced 1482 01:05:29,291 --> 01:05:31,250 to resign for not telling the truth 1483 01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,083 about his contacts with the Russian ambassador. 1484 01:05:33,166 --> 01:05:34,291 The shakeup comes at a critical time 1485 01:05:34,375 --> 01:05:36,125 for President Trump. 1486 01:05:36,208 --> 01:05:37,542 That also raised questions 1487 01:05:37,625 --> 01:05:39,000 about the relationship with Russia, 1488 01:05:39,083 --> 01:05:40,417 which still remains a big question. 1489 01:05:42,792 --> 01:05:44,291 Happy Valentine's Day. I can sense 1490 01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:45,834 the love in the room. 1491 01:05:45,917 --> 01:05:48,250 Um, I want to address 1492 01:05:48,333 --> 01:05:50,542 the events of last night, first and foremost. 1493 01:05:50,625 --> 01:05:52,792 The evolving and eroding level of trust 1494 01:05:52,875 --> 01:05:54,917 as a result of this situation 1495 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,709 is what led the president 1496 01:05:56,792 --> 01:05:59,375 to ask for General Flynn's resignation. 1497 01:05:59,458 --> 01:06:02,667 Why would the president, if he was notified 17 days ago 1498 01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:04,458 that Flynn was a potential threat 1499 01:06:04,542 --> 01:06:06,000 to blackmail by the Russians, 1500 01:06:06,083 --> 01:06:08,083 why would he be kept on 1501 01:06:08,166 --> 01:06:10,333 for almost three weeks? 1502 01:06:10,417 --> 01:06:14,625 Once we understood that this was a showdown 1503 01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:18,750 that involved lies from the president's 1504 01:06:18,834 --> 01:06:20,792 national security advisor-- 1505 01:06:20,875 --> 01:06:23,709 that's when we began to move, publicly at least, 1506 01:06:23,792 --> 01:06:25,542 into uncharted territory. 1507 01:06:30,083 --> 01:06:31,709 In your estimation, was General Flynn, 1508 01:06:31,792 --> 01:06:34,959 at that time, in serious legal jeopardy? 1509 01:06:35,041 --> 01:06:36,667 General Flynn, at that point in time, 1510 01:06:36,750 --> 01:06:38,417 was in legal jeopardy. 1511 01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:40,875 There was an open FBI criminal investigation 1512 01:06:40,959 --> 01:06:42,625 of his statements in connection 1513 01:06:42,709 --> 01:06:44,291 with the Russian contacts 1514 01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:46,709 and the contacts themselves. 1515 01:06:46,792 --> 01:06:49,458 And I--I think that is very significant, because 1516 01:06:49,542 --> 01:06:51,000 on February 14th, 1517 01:06:51,083 --> 01:06:52,458 you were in a meeting, 1518 01:06:52,542 --> 01:06:53,750 and the president asked 1519 01:06:53,834 --> 01:06:56,000 everyone to leave, 1520 01:06:56,083 --> 01:06:58,500 including the attorney general to leave, 1521 01:06:58,583 --> 01:07:03,417 before he brought up the matter of General Flynn, 1522 01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,709 and have you ever seen anything like that before? 1523 01:07:05,792 --> 01:07:06,458 No, 1524 01:07:06,542 --> 01:07:07,875 and so I knew 1525 01:07:07,959 --> 01:07:09,333 something was about to happen 1526 01:07:09,417 --> 01:07:10,750 that I needed to pay 1527 01:07:10,834 --> 01:07:11,500 very close attention to. 1528 01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,333 The president seemed oddly uninterested 1529 01:07:20,417 --> 01:07:22,709 and distracted during the classified briefing. 1530 01:07:22,792 --> 01:07:24,625 At the end of this low-energy session, 1531 01:07:24,709 --> 01:07:27,083 he signaled that the briefing was over. 1532 01:07:27,166 --> 01:07:29,125 Then, pointing at me, he added, 1533 01:07:29,208 --> 01:07:32,125 "I just want to talk to Jim. Thanks, everybody." 1534 01:07:32,208 --> 01:07:34,083 The president began by saying 1535 01:07:34,166 --> 01:07:36,041 General Flynn hadn't done anything wrong 1536 01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:38,583 in speaking with the Russians. He then said, 1537 01:07:38,667 --> 01:07:40,959 "I hope you can see your way clear 1538 01:07:41,041 --> 01:07:43,250 to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. 1539 01:07:43,333 --> 01:07:46,583 He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go." 1540 01:07:48,667 --> 01:07:50,625 Think about it. 1541 01:07:50,709 --> 01:07:52,709 The President of the United States 1542 01:07:52,792 --> 01:07:55,000 asking the FBI director 1543 01:07:55,083 --> 01:07:57,709 to drop an ongoing investigation. 1544 01:07:57,792 --> 01:07:59,959 Thank you, sir. 1545 01:08:00,041 --> 01:08:01,917 Senator Risch. 1546 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,458 Thank you very much. You wrote down the words, 1547 01:08:04,542 --> 01:08:06,917 so we can all have the words in front of us now. 1548 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,000 Quote, "I hope--" this is the president speaking. 1549 01:08:10,083 --> 01:08:12,375 "I hope you can let this go." 1550 01:08:12,458 --> 01:08:15,000 Now, those are his exact words. Is that correct? 1551 01:08:15,083 --> 01:08:16,333 Correct. -Okay. 1552 01:08:16,417 --> 01:08:20,041 He did not direct you to let it go. 1553 01:08:20,125 --> 01:08:21,792 Not in his words, no. 1554 01:08:21,875 --> 01:08:24,583 He did not order you to let it go. 1555 01:08:24,667 --> 01:08:26,542 Again, those words are not an order. 1556 01:08:26,625 --> 01:08:27,583 No. 1557 01:08:27,667 --> 01:08:29,208 He said, "I hope." 1558 01:08:29,291 --> 01:08:31,667 The reason I keep saying "his words" is 1559 01:08:31,750 --> 01:08:34,375 I took it as a direction. 1560 01:08:34,458 --> 01:08:36,375 I mean, this is the President of the United States 1561 01:08:36,458 --> 01:08:38,667 with me alone, saying "I hope" this. 1562 01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:40,625 I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it. 1563 01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:42,500 All right. 1564 01:08:42,583 --> 01:08:45,166 When you have the President of the United States 1565 01:08:45,250 --> 01:08:47,250 saying to the chief law enforcement officer, 1566 01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:49,625 "Hey, look the other way on my guy," 1567 01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,208 that is an enormous red flag. 1568 01:08:53,083 --> 01:08:55,458 It sure seems like a cover-up, 1569 01:08:55,542 --> 01:08:57,834 and that is why we have to start looking 1570 01:08:57,917 --> 01:08:59,917 at obstruction of justice. 1571 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,625 Do you sense that the president 1572 01:09:01,709 --> 01:09:03,041 was trying to obstruct justice, 1573 01:09:03,125 --> 01:09:04,875 or just seek for a way 1574 01:09:04,959 --> 01:09:06,709 for Mike Flynn to save face, 1575 01:09:06,792 --> 01:09:08,625 given he had already been fired? 1576 01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:11,458 Obstruction of justice is a technical crime. 1577 01:09:11,542 --> 01:09:14,000 It is something that requires evidence, 1578 01:09:14,083 --> 01:09:17,041 you know, that stands up in a court of law. 1579 01:09:17,125 --> 01:09:19,000 Now, there is no constitutional rule 1580 01:09:19,083 --> 01:09:21,000 that says the president is not allowed 1581 01:09:21,083 --> 01:09:23,625 to instruct the FBI director 1582 01:09:23,709 --> 01:09:25,583 as to how to conduct an investigation. 1583 01:09:25,667 --> 01:09:28,834 In fact, he is constitutionally authorized 1584 01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:31,166 to do exactly that. 1585 01:09:31,250 --> 01:09:32,208 Despite the norms 1586 01:09:32,291 --> 01:09:33,875 about FBI independence, 1587 01:09:33,959 --> 01:09:35,625 he's the chief prosecutor. 1588 01:09:35,709 --> 01:09:37,208 In some sense, 1589 01:09:37,291 --> 01:09:38,667 he is allowed to decide 1590 01:09:38,750 --> 01:09:40,291 who gets prosecuted or not, 1591 01:09:40,375 --> 01:09:42,583 and the paradox and difficulty here 1592 01:09:42,667 --> 01:09:45,500 is whether the president was acting 1593 01:09:45,583 --> 01:09:47,375 within his legitimate constitutional power 1594 01:09:47,458 --> 01:09:49,083 to direct an investigation, 1595 01:09:49,166 --> 01:09:50,875 or whether he crossed the line somehow, 1596 01:09:50,959 --> 01:09:54,083 if the line can be crossed, into criminality. 1597 01:09:54,166 --> 01:09:55,709 And so it looks suspicious, 1598 01:09:55,792 --> 01:09:57,667 but at the end of the day, 1599 01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:00,458 a lot of this does turn on criminal intent, 1600 01:10:00,542 --> 01:10:02,667 and we'd have to get into, really, 1601 01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:05,500 what was President Trump's state of mind at the time, 1602 01:10:05,583 --> 01:10:08,375 which is often very hard to prove, 1603 01:10:08,458 --> 01:10:10,917 because the prosecutor asks, "What were you thinking?" 1604 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,542 and the defendant says, "I'm taking 1605 01:10:12,625 --> 01:10:14,208 my Fifth Amendment rights," 1606 01:10:14,291 --> 01:10:17,000 and so what you need to do as a prosecutor 1607 01:10:17,083 --> 01:10:18,458 is look to extrinsic evidence-- 1608 01:10:18,542 --> 01:10:20,500 did he talk to other folks, 1609 01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:22,875 what did he say to his national security advisor, 1610 01:10:22,959 --> 01:10:24,750 does he have anything written down 1611 01:10:24,834 --> 01:10:26,083 that might bear on this-- 1612 01:10:26,166 --> 01:10:30,083 and then start to build a case. 1613 01:10:30,166 --> 01:10:32,542 This is one of the reasons why I think 1614 01:10:32,625 --> 01:10:34,375 that as a legal matter, the claim that Trump 1615 01:10:34,458 --> 01:10:36,417 committed obstruction of justice is much harder 1616 01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,625 than most commentators have made it seem, 1617 01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:41,959 but it's--the legal matter is not what's important. 1618 01:10:42,041 --> 01:10:43,291 What's important is that 1619 01:10:43,375 --> 01:10:45,125 the President of the United States 1620 01:10:45,208 --> 01:10:46,917 was trying to shape an investigation 1621 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,750 into himself and his subordinates 1622 01:10:48,834 --> 01:10:50,375 in a way that 1623 01:10:50,458 --> 01:10:52,792 is a complete violation of all the norms 1624 01:10:52,875 --> 01:10:55,125 that have been put in place since Watergate. 1625 01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:02,125 It's all fake news. 1626 01:11:02,208 --> 01:11:04,667 Mike Flynn is a fine person. 1627 01:11:04,750 --> 01:11:06,709 Mike was doing his job. 1628 01:11:06,792 --> 01:11:08,041 He was calling countries 1629 01:11:08,125 --> 01:11:09,375 and his counterparts. 1630 01:11:10,792 --> 01:11:12,208 Yes, go ahead. 1631 01:11:12,291 --> 01:11:12,959 Can you say whether you 1632 01:11:13,041 --> 01:11:14,291 are aware that anyone 1633 01:11:14,375 --> 01:11:15,208 who advised your campaign 1634 01:11:15,291 --> 01:11:16,709 had contacts with Russia 1635 01:11:16,792 --> 01:11:17,542 during the course of the election? 1636 01:11:17,625 --> 01:11:18,625 How many times do I have 1637 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:20,583 to answer this question? 1638 01:11:20,667 --> 01:11:22,250 - Can you just say-- - Russia is a ruse. 1639 01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:23,709 Yeah, I know you have to get up and ask a question. 1640 01:11:23,792 --> 01:11:25,458 It's so important. Russia is a ruse. 1641 01:11:25,542 --> 01:11:27,333 I have nothing to do with Russia. 1642 01:11:27,417 --> 01:11:29,125 To the best of my t-- knowledge, 1643 01:11:29,208 --> 01:11:31,000 no person that I deal with... 1644 01:11:37,917 --> 01:11:39,041 Jeff Sessions met twice 1645 01:11:39,125 --> 01:11:41,041 with the Russian ambassador 1646 01:11:41,125 --> 01:11:42,000 to the United States 1647 01:11:42,083 --> 01:11:43,083 during last year's 1648 01:11:43,166 --> 01:11:44,625 presidential campaign. 1649 01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:46,291 As attorney general, 1650 01:11:46,375 --> 01:11:47,834 it's Jeff Sessions' responsibility 1651 01:11:47,917 --> 01:11:49,792 to oversee any potential investigation 1652 01:11:49,875 --> 01:11:52,750 into the Trump campaign's relationship with Russia. 1653 01:11:52,834 --> 01:11:54,750 Now, several are suggesting 1654 01:11:54,834 --> 01:11:56,500 that the nation's chief law enforcement officer 1655 01:11:56,583 --> 01:11:58,500 himself step aside. 1656 01:11:58,583 --> 01:12:00,208 The president was very concerned 1657 01:12:00,291 --> 01:12:01,458 when he first heard about this, 1658 01:12:01,542 --> 01:12:03,041 and had the White House counsel, 1659 01:12:03,125 --> 01:12:04,000 Don McGahn, 1660 01:12:04,083 --> 01:12:05,750 try and lobby Sessions 1661 01:12:05,834 --> 01:12:06,834 not to step aside. 1662 01:12:06,917 --> 01:12:08,792 I have been here 1663 01:12:08,875 --> 01:12:11,333 just three weeks today. 1664 01:12:11,417 --> 01:12:14,917 A lot has been happening, in this three-week period. 1665 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,250 Ultimately, Sessions said, "Look, the career folks 1666 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:18,875 here at the Justice Department 1667 01:12:18,959 --> 01:12:20,458 who advised me on this said 1668 01:12:20,542 --> 01:12:22,375 that I have to not be involved in this 1669 01:12:22,458 --> 01:12:24,208 because of my role in the campaign." 1670 01:12:24,291 --> 01:12:26,750 Therefore, I have recused myself, 1671 01:12:26,834 --> 01:12:30,959 in the matters that deal with the Trump campaign. 1672 01:12:31,041 --> 01:12:32,417 Jeff Sessions, who is 1673 01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:33,834 a politician through and through, 1674 01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:36,291 bent to the norms 1675 01:12:36,375 --> 01:12:38,834 of independence of the department. 1676 01:12:38,917 --> 01:12:40,834 You don't want the attorney general 1677 01:12:40,917 --> 01:12:43,083 to be conducting an investigation 1678 01:12:43,166 --> 01:12:45,000 where he has a conflict of interest. 1679 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:47,583 So the number two person, Rod Rosenstein, 1680 01:12:47,667 --> 01:12:49,542 who occupied the position that Comey had 1681 01:12:49,625 --> 01:12:51,500 when I was in the Justice Department-- 1682 01:12:51,583 --> 01:12:53,083 he was the deputy attorney general-- 1683 01:12:53,166 --> 01:12:54,667 he became, for the Russia matter, 1684 01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:55,834 the acting attorney general, 1685 01:12:55,917 --> 01:12:57,250 just as Comey had become, 1686 01:12:57,333 --> 01:12:58,792 for the surveillance program 1687 01:12:58,875 --> 01:13:00,250 in 2004, the acting attorney general, 1688 01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:02,333 and so this actually worked 1689 01:13:02,417 --> 01:13:04,250 the way it was supposed to work. 1690 01:13:04,333 --> 01:13:06,667 Thank you all. Take care. 1691 01:13:06,750 --> 01:13:08,792 But when Sessions recused himself, 1692 01:13:08,875 --> 01:13:11,417 Trump became enraged. 1693 01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:13,709 A source is telling CNN 1694 01:13:13,792 --> 01:13:16,291 that the president was frustrated and angry. 1695 01:13:16,375 --> 01:13:19,542 That led to a fiery meeting in the Oval Office, 1696 01:13:19,625 --> 01:13:22,375 where there were, quote, "a lot of expletives." 1697 01:13:22,458 --> 01:13:24,083 The President of the United States 1698 01:13:24,166 --> 01:13:25,959 is infuriated, 1699 01:13:26,041 --> 01:13:27,667 because he wants loyalty. 1700 01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:29,834 He wants his man 1701 01:13:29,917 --> 01:13:32,125 in charge of the Russia investigation, 1702 01:13:32,208 --> 01:13:34,458 and he can't have it. 1703 01:13:35,875 --> 01:13:37,750 After that angry White House meeting, 1704 01:13:37,834 --> 01:13:39,667 the president left for Florida, 1705 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:41,709 and it was from his Mar-a-Lago estate 1706 01:13:41,792 --> 01:13:43,625 on Saturday morning that Trump tweeted out 1707 01:13:43,709 --> 01:13:45,458 that explosive accusation 1708 01:13:45,542 --> 01:13:47,625 that President Obama ordered the wiretapping 1709 01:13:47,709 --> 01:13:49,291 of his phone and Trump Tower 1710 01:13:49,375 --> 01:13:51,333 during the campaign. 1711 01:13:51,417 --> 01:13:53,458 Trump is trying to muddy the waters 1712 01:13:53,542 --> 01:13:55,959 and distract from the Russia probe. 1713 01:13:56,041 --> 01:13:57,667 Along comes Comey 1714 01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:59,417 to set the record straight 1715 01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:01,250 in a very public way. 1716 01:14:03,083 --> 01:14:04,250 Tomorrow, James Comey 1717 01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:05,917 will publicly answer questions 1718 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,125 about the president's wiretapping claims. 1719 01:14:08,208 --> 01:14:09,500 The setting this time: 1720 01:14:09,583 --> 01:14:11,083 the House Intelligence Committee. 1721 01:14:11,166 --> 01:14:13,000 It promises to be a blockbuster. 1722 01:14:13,083 --> 01:14:15,375 How directly will he take on the president 1723 01:14:15,458 --> 01:14:17,458 in open session? If he does, 1724 01:14:17,542 --> 01:14:20,166 how is the president gonna respond? 1725 01:14:21,959 --> 01:14:24,333 The committee will come to order. 1726 01:14:24,417 --> 01:14:26,083 Director Comey, 1727 01:14:26,166 --> 01:14:28,959 I want to begin by attempting to put to rest 1728 01:14:29,041 --> 01:14:31,041 several claims made by the president 1729 01:14:31,125 --> 01:14:32,834 about his predecessor, 1730 01:14:32,917 --> 01:14:34,375 namely, that President Obama 1731 01:14:34,458 --> 01:14:36,417 wiretapped his phones. 1732 01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:38,792 I have no information that supports those tweets, 1733 01:14:38,875 --> 01:14:41,750 and we have looked carefully inside the FBI. 1734 01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,417 The president accused 1735 01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:45,625 Mr. Obama, and presumably the FBI, 1736 01:14:45,709 --> 01:14:47,750 of engaging in McCarthyism. 1737 01:14:47,834 --> 01:14:50,083 Were you engaged in McCarthyism, Director Comey? 1738 01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:52,125 I try very hard not to engage in any isms 1739 01:14:52,208 --> 01:14:53,583 of any kind, 1740 01:14:53,667 --> 01:14:56,375 including-- including McCarthyism. 1741 01:14:56,458 --> 01:14:57,792 The investigation in the House 1742 01:14:57,875 --> 01:14:59,375 Intelligence Committee 1743 01:14:59,458 --> 01:15:01,625 began as a bipartisan investigation. 1744 01:15:01,709 --> 01:15:03,333 Um, but then we had 1745 01:15:03,417 --> 01:15:05,625 the open hearing with James Comey. 1746 01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:07,041 Director Comey, you're recognized 1747 01:15:07,125 --> 01:15:08,458 for five minutes. 1748 01:15:08,542 --> 01:15:10,041 As you know, our practice 1749 01:15:10,125 --> 01:15:11,709 is not to confirm 1750 01:15:11,792 --> 01:15:14,250 the existence of ongoing investigations, 1751 01:15:14,333 --> 01:15:16,792 but in unusual circumstances, 1752 01:15:16,875 --> 01:15:19,500 where it is in the public interest, 1753 01:15:19,583 --> 01:15:22,291 it may be appropriate to do so. 1754 01:15:22,375 --> 01:15:24,959 This is one of those circumstances. 1755 01:15:26,875 --> 01:15:28,709 He announced for the first time 1756 01:15:28,792 --> 01:15:30,542 that there had been a counterintelligence 1757 01:15:30,625 --> 01:15:31,875 investigation of the Trump campaign 1758 01:15:31,959 --> 01:15:34,792 going on since July. 1759 01:15:34,875 --> 01:15:36,500 I was told thereafter 1760 01:15:36,583 --> 01:15:38,208 that the GOP members of our committee 1761 01:15:38,291 --> 01:15:39,542 viewed that hearing 1762 01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:41,834 as an unmitigated disaster, 1763 01:15:41,917 --> 01:15:44,083 which was curious to me, 1764 01:15:44,166 --> 01:15:46,458 because it was only a disaster if you viewed 1765 01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,208 as your mission protecting the president. 1766 01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:50,834 We were attacked by a hostile power. 1767 01:15:50,917 --> 01:15:53,125 In a normal time, 1768 01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:55,500 the legislative branch of government 1769 01:15:55,583 --> 01:15:58,834 would say, "What the hell just happened?" 1770 01:15:58,917 --> 01:16:00,542 Director Comey, you announced this morning 1771 01:16:00,625 --> 01:16:02,083 that there'll be an investigation 1772 01:16:02,166 --> 01:16:04,500 into Trump associates. Do Russians 1773 01:16:04,583 --> 01:16:06,917 historically prefer Republicans 1774 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,458 to win over Democrats? 1775 01:16:09,542 --> 01:16:10,834 I don't know the answer to that. 1776 01:16:10,917 --> 01:16:11,875 Did the Russians 1777 01:16:11,959 --> 01:16:13,250 prefer Mitt Romney 1778 01:16:13,333 --> 01:16:15,792 over Barack Obama in 2012? 1779 01:16:15,875 --> 01:16:18,083 I never saw a U.S. intelligence community 1780 01:16:18,166 --> 01:16:19,875 analytic position on that issue. 1781 01:16:19,959 --> 01:16:21,917 Don't you think it's ridiculous to say 1782 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,500 that somehow, the Russians, prefer 1783 01:16:24,583 --> 01:16:27,083 Republicans over-- over Democrats? 1784 01:16:30,875 --> 01:16:32,709 With the election of Donald Trump, 1785 01:16:32,792 --> 01:16:34,000 you got a Republican president, 1786 01:16:34,083 --> 01:16:35,875 you got a Republican Congress, 1787 01:16:35,959 --> 01:16:37,417 and the Republican Congress 1788 01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:40,750 proves unwilling and unable 1789 01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,125 to investigate the Republican president. 1790 01:16:43,208 --> 01:16:45,166 Director Comey, do you have any evidence 1791 01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:46,417 at the FBI that any 1792 01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:48,208 current Trump White House 1793 01:16:48,291 --> 01:16:49,500 or administration official 1794 01:16:49,583 --> 01:16:51,208 coordinated with the Russian 1795 01:16:51,291 --> 01:16:53,500 intelligence services? -That's not something 1796 01:16:53,583 --> 01:16:55,542 I can answer in an open setting. 1797 01:16:55,625 --> 01:16:57,875 Well, we're conducting our own investigation here, 1798 01:16:57,959 --> 01:16:59,500 and I know that you're not going to tell me 1799 01:16:59,583 --> 01:17:01,083 whether or not you have any evidence, 1800 01:17:01,166 --> 01:17:02,792 but I can tell you that we don't have any evidence. 1801 01:17:02,875 --> 01:17:05,083 You know, there is a big gray cloud 1802 01:17:05,166 --> 01:17:06,709 that you have now put over, 1803 01:17:06,792 --> 01:17:07,959 people who have very important work to do 1804 01:17:08,041 --> 01:17:09,166 to lead this country. 1805 01:17:09,250 --> 01:17:11,458 I understand. Thank you. 1806 01:17:14,041 --> 01:17:16,500 If you think about the antics of Devin Nunes, 1807 01:17:16,583 --> 01:17:18,625 there's some deep, deep worry 1808 01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:20,500 that there are people in Congress 1809 01:17:20,583 --> 01:17:22,417 who don't care about the law, 1810 01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,667 who don't care about the Constitution, 1811 01:17:24,750 --> 01:17:27,208 and care only about getting reelected 1812 01:17:27,291 --> 01:17:29,458 and having their president reelected. 1813 01:17:29,542 --> 01:17:31,125 Among the majority party, 1814 01:17:31,208 --> 01:17:32,709 there's no interest in finding out 1815 01:17:32,792 --> 01:17:33,917 what the Russians did, 1816 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,667 or what the Trump campaign did, 1817 01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:37,625 or what they did in combination. 1818 01:17:37,709 --> 01:17:39,375 That is damning evidence 1819 01:17:39,458 --> 01:17:41,291 that our system is 1820 01:17:41,375 --> 01:17:43,333 cracking in terms 1821 01:17:43,417 --> 01:17:45,542 of its checks and balances. 1822 01:17:51,250 --> 01:17:52,667 What you have 1823 01:17:52,750 --> 01:17:54,792 in the House Intelligence Committee is 1824 01:17:54,875 --> 01:17:57,458 a chairman who has essentially destroyed 1825 01:17:57,542 --> 01:17:59,250 the checks and balances 1826 01:17:59,333 --> 01:18:00,750 that are written into the Constitution 1827 01:18:00,834 --> 01:18:03,542 to construct a Trumpian reality 1828 01:18:03,625 --> 01:18:05,500 around a terrible event. 1829 01:18:05,583 --> 01:18:07,500 And as we sit here today, 1830 01:18:07,583 --> 01:18:09,792 we know they're coming at us again, 1831 01:18:09,875 --> 01:18:12,083 and we haven't done a damn thing about it. 1832 01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:32,417 He asked what we could do 1833 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:35,166 to lift the cloud. I responded that we were 1834 01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:37,875 investigating the matter as quickly as we could. 1835 01:18:37,959 --> 01:18:39,583 The president went on to say that if there were 1836 01:18:39,667 --> 01:18:41,959 some satellite associates of his 1837 01:18:42,041 --> 01:18:43,625 who did something wrong, 1838 01:18:43,709 --> 01:18:45,333 it would be good to find that out, 1839 01:18:45,417 --> 01:18:46,667 but then reemphasized the problems 1840 01:18:46,750 --> 01:18:48,417 this was causing him 1841 01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:50,166 and said he hoped I could find a way 1842 01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:52,458 to get out that he wasn't being investigated. 1843 01:18:52,542 --> 01:18:54,000 Now, I understand 1844 01:18:54,083 --> 01:18:56,500 that you received a call from Trump as well. 1845 01:18:56,583 --> 01:18:58,875 I--you know, I did. You know-- 1846 01:18:58,959 --> 01:19:00,750 Look, God knows I don't fully understand 1847 01:19:00,834 --> 01:19:02,875 why Donald Trump does all that he does, 1848 01:19:02,959 --> 01:19:05,458 but there's all sorts of ways 1849 01:19:05,542 --> 01:19:07,583 someone who is in political office 1850 01:19:07,667 --> 01:19:10,709 can try to put the arm on someone who's a prosecutor 1851 01:19:10,792 --> 01:19:12,583 or a law enforcement official. 1852 01:19:12,667 --> 01:19:15,208 Someone will say, "Stop working on that case." 1853 01:19:15,291 --> 01:19:17,750 People can also say, "Could you open up a case?" 1854 01:19:17,834 --> 01:19:21,333 Now, our jurisdiction included his properties, 1855 01:19:21,417 --> 01:19:23,250 his residents, bank accounts, family members-- 1856 01:19:23,333 --> 01:19:25,250 I'm not saying that we were looking 1857 01:19:25,333 --> 01:19:27,125 at any of those things necessarily, 1858 01:19:27,208 --> 01:19:30,041 but that was what our ambit included. 1859 01:19:30,125 --> 01:19:32,917 Ordinarily, if someone of that position 1860 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,208 is gonna be calling the local prosecutor 1861 01:19:35,291 --> 01:19:37,041 in a jurisdiction as I described, 1862 01:19:37,125 --> 01:19:38,959 there would've been some warning about it, 1863 01:19:39,041 --> 01:19:40,500 it would have been set up through the attorney general-- 1864 01:19:40,583 --> 01:19:41,792 I mean, there is protocol 1865 01:19:41,875 --> 01:19:43,792 for precisely the purpose 1866 01:19:43,875 --> 01:19:45,917 of making sure that lines are not crossed, 1867 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,500 so we considered whether or not 1868 01:19:47,583 --> 01:19:49,041 I should return the call 1869 01:19:49,125 --> 01:19:50,959 and actually make a tape recording 1870 01:19:51,041 --> 01:19:52,667 of the phone call between the sitting 1871 01:19:52,750 --> 01:19:54,125 United States attorney and the sitting president, 1872 01:19:54,208 --> 01:19:55,500 and we thought that was a bridge too far. 1873 01:19:55,583 --> 01:19:57,125 That didn't feel right, 1874 01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,083 and then we taught-- thought to ourselves 1875 01:19:59,166 --> 01:20:00,542 we could take contemporaneous notes, 1876 01:20:00,625 --> 01:20:02,917 and I later learned Jim Comey did. 1877 01:20:04,917 --> 01:20:06,917 Why was there so much of an instinct 1878 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,291 for people to want to have a record 1879 01:20:09,375 --> 01:20:12,542 of a conversation with President Trump? 1880 01:20:12,625 --> 01:20:14,500 On the morning of April 11th, 1881 01:20:14,583 --> 01:20:16,875 the president called to ask what I had done 1882 01:20:16,959 --> 01:20:19,125 about his request that I get out 1883 01:20:19,208 --> 01:20:21,125 that he is not personally under investigation. 1884 01:20:21,208 --> 01:20:24,500 He seemed irritated with me. Then he added, 1885 01:20:24,583 --> 01:20:27,625 "Because I have been very loyal to you. Very loyal. 1886 01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:29,041 We had that thing, you know." 1887 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,959 You described two phone calls 1888 01:20:35,041 --> 01:20:36,542 that you received from President Trump 1889 01:20:36,625 --> 01:20:38,458 where he asked you, 1890 01:20:38,542 --> 01:20:41,792 quote, "to lift the cloud," end quote. 1891 01:20:41,875 --> 01:20:43,542 Talk for a moment about 1892 01:20:43,625 --> 01:20:45,291 your response to that 1893 01:20:45,375 --> 01:20:47,875 and what impact you believe that had. 1894 01:20:47,959 --> 01:20:50,875 Well, I didn't do it, and so 1895 01:20:50,959 --> 01:20:53,875 this didn't improve the relationship. 1896 01:20:53,959 --> 01:20:57,125 Please go into that with more detail. 1897 01:20:57,208 --> 01:21:00,166 He was frustrated with the 1898 01:21:00,250 --> 01:21:02,375 Russia investigation 1899 01:21:02,458 --> 01:21:04,875 and something about the way I was conducting it 1900 01:21:04,959 --> 01:21:06,750 the president felt 1901 01:21:06,834 --> 01:21:09,125 created pressure on him that he wanted to relieve. 1902 01:21:09,208 --> 01:21:11,375 After April 11th, 1903 01:21:11,458 --> 01:21:14,959 did he ask you more, ever, 1904 01:21:15,041 --> 01:21:18,125 about the Russia investigation? 1905 01:21:18,208 --> 01:21:19,000 No. 1906 01:21:19,083 --> 01:21:20,291 We never spoke again 1907 01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:21,166 after April 11th. 1908 01:21:26,583 --> 01:21:28,000 I was in Los Angeles to attend 1909 01:21:28,083 --> 01:21:30,583 a diversity agent recruiting event. 1910 01:21:30,667 --> 01:21:32,542 I went early enough to have time 1911 01:21:32,625 --> 01:21:35,583 to visit the FBI's Los Angeles field office. 1912 01:21:35,667 --> 01:21:37,208 I met dozens of LA employees 1913 01:21:37,291 --> 01:21:38,625 standing at their desks, 1914 01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:41,166 and then I stopped. 1915 01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:43,458 On the TV screens along the back wall, 1916 01:21:43,542 --> 01:21:45,625 I could see "Comey Fired" 1917 01:21:45,709 --> 01:21:47,792 in large letters. 1918 01:21:47,875 --> 01:21:49,417 This is coming on the heels 1919 01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:51,083 of the FBI director being, 1920 01:21:51,166 --> 01:21:52,667 so central 1921 01:21:52,750 --> 01:21:54,208 involved in this, Russian scandal. 1922 01:21:54,291 --> 01:21:56,208 Across three screens, 1923 01:21:56,291 --> 01:21:58,208 displaying three different news stations, 1924 01:21:58,291 --> 01:22:00,375 I now saw the same words. 1925 01:22:00,458 --> 01:22:02,583 President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations 1926 01:22:02,667 --> 01:22:05,083 of deputy attorney general, 1927 01:22:05,166 --> 01:22:06,375 Rod Rosenstein. 1928 01:22:06,458 --> 01:22:08,000 I just got a letter. 1929 01:22:08,083 --> 01:22:09,750 It's a lengthy letter, a three-page letter, 1930 01:22:09,834 --> 01:22:11,417 from the deputy attorney general. 1931 01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:12,750 The deputy attorney general 1932 01:22:12,834 --> 01:22:14,208 Rod Rosenstein said, 1933 01:22:14,291 --> 01:22:16,417 "I could not defend the director. 1934 01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:18,208 James Comey's handling 1935 01:22:18,291 --> 01:22:19,875 of the conclusion of the investigation 1936 01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:22,208 of Secretary Clinton's emails, started..." 1937 01:22:22,291 --> 01:22:23,625 When Trump 1938 01:22:23,709 --> 01:22:25,041 fired Comey, he gave 1939 01:22:25,125 --> 01:22:26,625 as his first and ostensible reason, 1940 01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:28,750 a memo that Rosenstein had written 1941 01:22:28,834 --> 01:22:30,875 that had detailed 1942 01:22:30,959 --> 01:22:33,208 what Rosenstein viewed as the failings of Comey 1943 01:22:33,291 --> 01:22:34,792 in connection with the Hillary investigation. 1944 01:22:34,875 --> 01:22:37,041 You remember, that was that highly dramatic 1945 01:22:37,125 --> 01:22:39,333 press conference that was held last summer 1946 01:22:39,417 --> 01:22:41,375 where, FBI director Comey 1947 01:22:41,458 --> 01:22:43,375 was quite critical of Hillary Clinton. 1948 01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:45,667 There's much to question about what Comey did, 1949 01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:48,208 but that seemed like it was a memo written 1950 01:22:48,291 --> 01:22:49,834 quickly, and not very impressively, 1951 01:22:49,917 --> 01:22:51,417 as an excuse to fire Comey. 1952 01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:54,291 There is no way 1953 01:22:54,375 --> 01:22:57,625 that Rod Rosenstein could have thought 1954 01:22:57,709 --> 01:23:00,333 that Donald Trump 1955 01:23:00,417 --> 01:23:03,166 wanted to fire the FBI director 1956 01:23:03,250 --> 01:23:05,417 because he had been unfair 1957 01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:06,875 to Hillary Clinton... 1958 01:23:06,959 --> 01:23:08,458 Morning, sir. How you doing? 1959 01:23:08,542 --> 01:23:10,458 ...Though I'm sure it reflects 1960 01:23:10,542 --> 01:23:13,500 Rod's honest evaluation of Jim's performance 1961 01:23:13,583 --> 01:23:15,375 in the Hillary Clinton email matters. 1962 01:23:24,083 --> 01:23:26,458 Monday, you met with the deputy attorney general, 1963 01:23:26,542 --> 01:23:28,041 Rod Rosenstein. -Right. 1964 01:23:28,125 --> 01:23:30,000 Did you ask for a recommendation? 1965 01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:31,583 He made a recommendation, 1966 01:23:31,667 --> 01:23:33,083 but regardless of recommendation, 1967 01:23:33,166 --> 01:23:36,250 I was going to fire Comey. My decision. 1968 01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:37,917 - It was not-- - You had made the decision 1969 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:38,959 before they came in the room? 1970 01:23:39,041 --> 01:23:41,041 I-I was going to fire Comey. 1971 01:23:41,125 --> 01:23:43,875 And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, 1972 01:23:43,959 --> 01:23:46,125 I said to myself--I said, "You know, 1973 01:23:46,208 --> 01:23:49,041 this Russia thing with Trump and Russia 1974 01:23:49,125 --> 01:23:50,083 is a made-up story." 1975 01:23:50,166 --> 01:23:52,041 This was an excuse 1976 01:23:52,125 --> 01:23:53,917 for having lost an election, and-- 1977 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,291 Okay, are you angry with Mr. Comey 1978 01:23:56,375 --> 01:23:58,125 because of his Russia investigation? 1979 01:23:58,208 --> 01:24:01,792 I just want somebody that's competent. 1980 01:24:01,875 --> 01:24:03,417 Trump realized 1981 01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:04,875 that he could not count 1982 01:24:04,959 --> 01:24:06,208 on Jim Comey 1983 01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:07,917 to not investigate him 1984 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,709 and not investigate his friend, 1985 01:24:09,792 --> 01:24:11,875 and that is why he fired Jim Comey, 1986 01:24:11,959 --> 01:24:13,959 as he made very clear 1987 01:24:14,041 --> 01:24:16,500 the next day to the Russian ambassador 1988 01:24:16,583 --> 01:24:17,542 and the foreign minister. 1989 01:24:21,333 --> 01:24:22,792 The thing about that meeting 1990 01:24:22,875 --> 01:24:24,750 that is sort of an interesting thing 1991 01:24:24,834 --> 01:24:27,458 of the Trump era is that everyone remembers it 1992 01:24:27,542 --> 01:24:31,375 because the president called Comey a nutjob. 1993 01:24:31,458 --> 01:24:33,375 With all the news Trump makes, 1994 01:24:33,458 --> 01:24:35,500 we tend to follow the stupid human trick 1995 01:24:35,583 --> 01:24:37,750 and not pay attention to the more substantive thing, 1996 01:24:37,834 --> 01:24:39,792 the fact that he said 1997 01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:43,250 it relieved pressure on him. 1998 01:24:43,333 --> 01:24:45,792 Ultimately, this is the story 1999 01:24:45,875 --> 01:24:47,500 about a president 2000 01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:50,375 not getting the investigative outcomes 2001 01:24:50,458 --> 01:24:52,000 that he wanted, 2002 01:24:52,083 --> 01:24:54,792 and trying to make law enforcement 2003 01:24:54,875 --> 01:24:58,333 malleable to his political desires, 2004 01:24:58,417 --> 01:25:02,000 and the--the extreme danger of that 2005 01:25:02,083 --> 01:25:04,542 should be all we've been talking about 2006 01:25:04,625 --> 01:25:06,500 for the last year and a half, 2007 01:25:06,583 --> 01:25:07,875 and it hasn't been, 2008 01:25:07,959 --> 01:25:10,041 and one of the reasons is that 2009 01:25:10,125 --> 01:25:12,959 people have such mixed feelings about Jim. 2010 01:25:13,041 --> 01:25:14,458 FBI director 2011 01:25:14,542 --> 01:25:15,458 James Comey 2012 01:25:15,542 --> 01:25:16,542 has just been fired 2013 01:25:16,625 --> 01:25:17,625 by Donald Trump. 2014 01:25:19,542 --> 01:25:21,792 Wow. Wow... 2015 01:25:21,875 --> 01:25:25,208 Huge, huge Donald Trump fans here tonight. 2016 01:25:25,291 --> 01:25:28,000 The complicated feelings 2017 01:25:28,083 --> 01:25:30,125 that people have about Comey 2018 01:25:30,208 --> 01:25:32,000 in relation to Hillary Clinton 2019 01:25:32,083 --> 01:25:35,041 really did muddy that story. 2020 01:25:35,125 --> 01:25:37,834 Frankly, I think it's kind of sad. 2021 01:25:37,917 --> 01:25:40,250 Here's what Democrats said not long ago about Comey. 2022 01:25:40,333 --> 01:25:42,166 Harry Reid said Comey should resign 2023 01:25:42,250 --> 01:25:44,417 and be investigated by the Senate. 2024 01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:47,083 Senator Chuck Schumer said, "I don't have confidence 2025 01:25:47,166 --> 01:25:48,834 in him any longer." And I've heard 2026 01:25:48,917 --> 01:25:51,417 from countless, members of the FBI 2027 01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:53,792 that are grateful and thankful for the president's decision. 2028 01:25:53,875 --> 01:25:55,625 You personally 2029 01:25:55,709 --> 01:26:00,417 have talked to countless FBI employees since this happened? 2030 01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:03,041 Correct. -I mean, really? 2031 01:26:03,125 --> 01:26:05,041 Like, I mean, really? Are we be--so are we talking-- 2032 01:26:05,125 --> 01:26:06,583 Between, like, email, text messages, 2033 01:26:06,667 --> 01:26:08,250 absolutely. -50? 2034 01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:09,792 Yes. -I don't believe 2035 01:26:09,875 --> 01:26:11,250 she heard from anybody 2036 01:26:11,333 --> 01:26:13,250 in the building, 2037 01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:15,083 so I sought, 2038 01:26:15,166 --> 01:26:16,917 under Freedom of Information Act, 2039 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,709 all statements to staff 2040 01:26:19,792 --> 01:26:21,458 in response to the firing 2041 01:26:21,542 --> 01:26:23,750 in all the field offices, 2042 01:26:23,834 --> 01:26:26,208 in all the divisions. 2043 01:26:26,291 --> 01:26:28,333 If Sarah Huckabee Sanders was right, 2044 01:26:28,417 --> 01:26:30,500 there would be a kind of 2045 01:26:30,583 --> 01:26:33,458 "ding-dong, the witch is dead." 2046 01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:36,208 There was not a single expression 2047 01:26:36,291 --> 01:26:38,834 anywhere in any of those pages 2048 01:26:38,917 --> 01:26:40,291 that remotely supports 2049 01:26:40,375 --> 01:26:42,625 what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said. 2050 01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:44,041 People in that building 2051 01:26:44,125 --> 01:26:46,500 knew instinctively 2052 01:26:46,583 --> 01:26:48,792 that the attacks on him 2053 01:26:48,875 --> 01:26:51,709 were a proxy for an attack on them. 2054 01:26:55,250 --> 01:26:57,959 At that point, the face-to-face meetings 2055 01:26:58,041 --> 01:27:00,333 between Trump and Comey 2056 01:27:00,417 --> 01:27:03,208 are not a matter of public record, 2057 01:27:03,291 --> 01:27:05,458 but two days after Comey is fired, 2058 01:27:05,542 --> 01:27:07,500 there's a headline in The New York Times. 2059 01:27:07,583 --> 01:27:08,875 "In A Private Dinner, 2060 01:27:08,959 --> 01:27:11,041 Trump Demanded Loyalty. 2061 01:27:11,125 --> 01:27:12,709 Comey Demurred." 2062 01:27:15,166 --> 01:27:17,375 In the aftermath of Comey being fired, 2063 01:27:17,458 --> 01:27:19,375 it was clear that some stuff had gone on 2064 01:27:19,458 --> 01:27:21,000 that we didn't know about between Comey 2065 01:27:21,083 --> 01:27:23,000 and the president, and the first story 2066 01:27:23,083 --> 01:27:25,333 that I was able to break about it 2067 01:27:25,417 --> 01:27:28,291 was the loyalty dinner. 2068 01:27:28,375 --> 01:27:30,125 Trump was obviously very upset, 2069 01:27:30,208 --> 01:27:32,375 and it's in the aftermath of that story 2070 01:27:32,458 --> 01:27:34,542 that the president tweets 2071 01:27:34,625 --> 01:27:38,083 "Comey better hope there are not tapes." 2072 01:27:38,166 --> 01:27:39,792 President tweeted on Friday 2073 01:27:39,875 --> 01:27:41,333 after I got fired. 2074 01:27:41,417 --> 01:27:43,709 I woke up in the middle of the night. 2075 01:27:43,792 --> 01:27:45,125 Holy cow. There might be tapes, 2076 01:27:45,208 --> 01:27:46,750 and if there are tapes, 2077 01:27:46,834 --> 01:27:48,834 it's not just my word against his 2078 01:27:48,917 --> 01:27:52,000 on the direction to get rid of the Flynn investigation, 2079 01:27:52,083 --> 01:27:53,625 and so I asked a friend of mine 2080 01:27:53,709 --> 01:27:56,792 to share the content of the memo with a reporter, 2081 01:27:56,875 --> 01:27:59,041 because I thought that might prompt 2082 01:27:59,125 --> 01:28:01,000 the appointment of a special counsel. 2083 01:28:01,083 --> 01:28:02,291 When you received 2084 01:28:02,375 --> 01:28:04,125 the information about this memo, 2085 01:28:04,208 --> 01:28:06,417 did you realize what it could lead to? 2086 01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:08,125 Yeah, I mean, it was pretty clear-- 2087 01:28:08,208 --> 01:28:10,792 the significance of it. Yeah. 2088 01:28:13,125 --> 01:28:14,917 We reported about the Oval Office meeting, 2089 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,000 and the next day, 2090 01:28:16,083 --> 01:28:17,709 Rod Rosenstein 2091 01:28:17,792 --> 01:28:20,750 appoints Mueller to be the special counsel. 2092 01:28:20,834 --> 01:28:22,959 The White House blindsided tonight 2093 01:28:23,041 --> 01:28:24,166 as the Department of Justice 2094 01:28:24,250 --> 01:28:26,375 will appoint a special counsel... 2095 01:28:26,458 --> 01:28:28,792 Special Counsel in the Russia investigation. 2096 01:28:28,875 --> 01:28:30,875 That special counsel will be 2097 01:28:30,959 --> 01:28:33,667 former FBI director Robert Mueller. 2098 01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:36,375 The former FBI director Robert Mueller. 2099 01:28:38,917 --> 01:28:41,875 So it--it isn't like the firing of Comey 2100 01:28:41,959 --> 01:28:43,542 ended the investigation into-- 2101 01:28:43,625 --> 01:28:44,792 No. If anything, 2102 01:28:44,875 --> 01:28:46,417 you could argue that it 2103 01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:48,417 doubled or tripled the shadow 2104 01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:51,250 over the White House. 2105 01:28:53,917 --> 01:28:56,250 Sir, do you believe that Robert Mueller, 2106 01:28:56,333 --> 01:28:58,834 our new special investigator on Russia, 2107 01:28:58,917 --> 01:29:01,166 will be thorough and complete without political intervention, 2108 01:29:01,250 --> 01:29:02,458 and would you be confident 2109 01:29:02,542 --> 01:29:04,083 on his findings and recommendations? 2110 01:29:04,166 --> 01:29:05,458 Yes. Bob Mueller is one 2111 01:29:05,542 --> 01:29:07,792 of the finest people and public servants 2112 01:29:07,875 --> 01:29:09,208 this country has ever produced. 2113 01:29:09,291 --> 01:29:11,041 He will do it well. 2114 01:29:11,125 --> 01:29:13,291 He is a dogged, tough person, 2115 01:29:13,375 --> 01:29:15,250 and you can have high confidence 2116 01:29:15,333 --> 01:29:17,542 that when it's done, he's turned over all the rocks. 2117 01:29:17,625 --> 01:29:19,792 Director Comey, thank you once again 2118 01:29:19,875 --> 01:29:21,875 on behalf of the committee. This hearing's adjourned. 2119 01:29:21,959 --> 01:29:24,250 When the president fires Jim Comey, 2120 01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:27,625 he thinks if he decapitates the FBI, 2121 01:29:27,709 --> 01:29:30,125 the FBI will cease to investigate him. 2122 01:29:30,208 --> 01:29:32,041 He is so wrong. 2123 01:29:34,583 --> 01:29:37,834 Bob Mueller can take teams of FBI agents 2124 01:29:37,917 --> 01:29:41,417 and point them in a number of directions. 2125 01:29:41,500 --> 01:29:44,375 His mandate is not simply to look at all things Russia. 2126 01:29:44,458 --> 01:29:48,083 It is to look at all things criminal. 2127 01:29:48,166 --> 01:29:49,250 Like Paul Manafort 2128 01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:50,709 and Rick Gates' indictment 2129 01:29:50,792 --> 01:29:53,792 for money laundering and past work 2130 01:29:53,875 --> 01:29:56,375 for Russian-backed oligarchs in Ukraine. 2131 01:29:56,458 --> 01:29:58,750 Paul Manafort is a nice man. 2132 01:29:58,834 --> 01:30:01,083 You look at what's going on with him-- 2133 01:30:01,166 --> 01:30:02,709 it--it's just a sad thing. 2134 01:30:02,792 --> 01:30:03,959 We've seen from Mueller 2135 01:30:04,041 --> 01:30:05,125 that his interests are broad, 2136 01:30:05,208 --> 01:30:07,291 that he is looking 2137 01:30:07,375 --> 01:30:09,083 at many different things, including 2138 01:30:09,166 --> 01:30:11,709 charging Russians who were part 2139 01:30:11,792 --> 01:30:13,583 of this influence campaign, to charging 2140 01:30:13,667 --> 01:30:15,500 folks around the president 2141 01:30:15,583 --> 01:30:17,834 with making false statements to investigators. 2142 01:30:17,917 --> 01:30:19,542 Michael Flynn ended up pleading guilty. 2143 01:30:19,625 --> 01:30:21,917 This is where we saw George Papadopoulos 2144 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,125 plead guilty. 2145 01:30:23,208 --> 01:30:24,125 There has been 2146 01:30:24,208 --> 01:30:25,875 absolutely no collusion. 2147 01:30:25,959 --> 01:30:28,166 It's been stated that they have no collusion. 2148 01:30:28,250 --> 01:30:30,458 At every stage of his investigation, 2149 01:30:30,542 --> 01:30:32,583 Bob Mueller has surprised us 2150 01:30:32,667 --> 01:30:35,667 by knowing more and knowing it earlier 2151 01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:37,583 than we possibly imagined. 2152 01:30:37,667 --> 01:30:39,500 They have a witch hunt 2153 01:30:39,583 --> 01:30:41,458 against the President of the United States. 2154 01:30:41,542 --> 01:30:43,166 What's going on is a disgrace. 2155 01:30:43,250 --> 01:30:44,917 It's an absolute disgrace. 2156 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,750 Investigations beget investigations, 2157 01:30:48,834 --> 01:30:50,875 so what starts as a counterintelligence case 2158 01:30:50,959 --> 01:30:53,375 becomes an obstruction of justice case 2159 01:30:53,458 --> 01:30:55,041 when Comey is fired, 2160 01:30:55,125 --> 01:30:56,208 and it has now 2161 01:30:56,291 --> 01:30:57,959 almost inevitably, 2162 01:30:58,041 --> 01:30:59,583 because you're investigating Donald Trump, 2163 01:30:59,667 --> 01:31:01,625 become an investigation 2164 01:31:01,709 --> 01:31:05,041 that is fraught with evidence trails 2165 01:31:05,125 --> 01:31:10,000 and the question of hush money, and... 2166 01:31:10,083 --> 01:31:11,583 ...it could go on 2167 01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:14,792 until long after Trump has left office. 2168 01:31:14,875 --> 01:31:16,333 Why don't you just fire Mueller? 2169 01:31:16,417 --> 01:31:17,750 Why don't I just fire Mueller? 2170 01:31:17,834 --> 01:31:18,959 Yeah, just fire the guy. 2171 01:31:19,041 --> 01:31:20,166 And many people have said, 2172 01:31:20,250 --> 01:31:21,667 "You should fire him." 2173 01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:23,417 So we'll see what happens. 2174 01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:25,500 I think it's, disgraceful, 2175 01:31:25,583 --> 01:31:27,917 and so does a lot of other people. 2176 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,542 This is a pure and simple 2177 01:31:29,625 --> 01:31:31,458 witch hunt. Thank you very much. 2178 01:31:31,542 --> 01:31:32,917 Thank you. Thank you. 2179 01:31:35,291 --> 01:31:37,583 I saw this on Twitter just yesterday. 2180 01:31:37,667 --> 01:31:39,458 Someone had the revelation: "I--I guess 2181 01:31:39,542 --> 01:31:41,792 much of what goes on in this country 2182 01:31:41,875 --> 01:31:43,750 at the highest levels is done on the honor system." 2183 01:31:43,834 --> 01:31:46,333 Yeah, and that's true. 2184 01:31:46,417 --> 01:31:48,125 So when he fired Jim Comey, 2185 01:31:48,208 --> 01:31:49,750 I learned a lesson: 2186 01:31:49,834 --> 01:31:51,959 that this president, if brought to anger, 2187 01:31:52,041 --> 01:31:53,917 is capable of firing anyone. 2188 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,041 I think he's capable of pardoning anyone. 2189 01:31:56,125 --> 01:31:57,542 I think he's capable 2190 01:31:57,625 --> 01:31:59,208 of taking outrageous steps 2191 01:31:59,291 --> 01:32:01,291 if he thinks that he or his family 2192 01:32:01,375 --> 01:32:03,125 are in the crosshairs. 2193 01:32:03,208 --> 01:32:04,667 Today, the president demanded 2194 01:32:04,750 --> 01:32:07,083 his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, resign. 2195 01:32:07,166 --> 01:32:09,709 We're going to have a new acting attorney general 2196 01:32:09,792 --> 01:32:12,709 who has been somewhat critical of the Mueller investigation. 2197 01:32:12,792 --> 01:32:14,125 The president's move 2198 01:32:14,208 --> 01:32:15,417 shifts the focus immediately 2199 01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:16,458 to the Mueller investigation. 2200 01:32:16,542 --> 01:32:18,125 Is it in danger? 2201 01:32:18,208 --> 01:32:19,709 It's kind of shame--shame on us 2202 01:32:19,792 --> 01:32:21,542 for being so surprised by it, 2203 01:32:21,625 --> 01:32:24,583 and as we tape this, lots of things have happened 2204 01:32:24,667 --> 01:32:26,250 in, you know, very recent times, 2205 01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:27,917 so shame on us again 2206 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:29,250 if we don't realize, 2207 01:32:29,333 --> 01:32:30,792 how close we are 2208 01:32:30,875 --> 01:32:32,333 to yet another constitutional crisis, 2209 01:32:32,417 --> 01:32:35,959 because, you know any-- any moment, 2210 01:32:36,041 --> 01:32:38,417 if Donald Trump had his druthers, 2211 01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:42,875 he would do a lot of things that are inimical to democracy. 2212 01:32:42,959 --> 01:32:46,083 Raise your right hand and please repeat after me. 2213 01:32:46,166 --> 01:32:48,166 "I, Richard Nixon, 2214 01:32:48,250 --> 01:32:49,750 do solemnly swear..." 2215 01:32:49,834 --> 01:32:52,750 I, Richard Nixon, do solemnly swear... 2216 01:32:52,834 --> 01:32:55,291 Our whole history is about 2217 01:32:55,375 --> 01:32:57,667 creating a system of accountability 2218 01:32:57,750 --> 01:33:00,583 to prevent the rise 2219 01:33:00,667 --> 01:33:03,750 of an autocracy or a dictatorship. 2220 01:33:03,834 --> 01:33:07,792 If you don't obey the laws that are put in place 2221 01:33:07,875 --> 01:33:10,333 to keep all of us on the up-and-up, 2222 01:33:10,417 --> 01:33:12,125 then where are you? 2223 01:33:12,208 --> 01:33:13,667 I, Ronald Reagan, 2224 01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:15,500 do solemnly swear... 2225 01:33:15,583 --> 01:33:17,417 "That I will faithfully execute 2226 01:33:17,500 --> 01:33:20,125 the office of President of the United States..." 2227 01:33:20,208 --> 01:33:21,875 That I will faithfully execute the office 2228 01:33:21,959 --> 01:33:23,959 of President of the United States... 2229 01:33:24,041 --> 01:33:27,208 If the FBI is not doing it, who's gonna do it? 2230 01:33:27,291 --> 01:33:28,458 We're not perfect, 2231 01:33:28,542 --> 01:33:32,375 but the institution is solid. 2232 01:33:32,458 --> 01:33:35,583 I-I fear what it would be like if we didn't have 2233 01:33:35,667 --> 01:33:36,917 the FBI. 2234 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,709 It's not--it's not the enemy. 2235 01:33:39,792 --> 01:33:42,500 I will, to the best of my ability... 2236 01:33:42,583 --> 01:33:45,125 "Preserve, protect, and defend 2237 01:33:45,208 --> 01:33:46,792 the Constitution of the United States." 2238 01:33:46,875 --> 01:33:48,208 The question of whether we 2239 01:33:48,291 --> 01:33:49,792 are still capable 2240 01:33:49,875 --> 01:33:52,667 of holding the president, accountable 2241 01:33:52,750 --> 01:33:55,709 is an enduring one, 2242 01:33:55,792 --> 01:33:57,709 and I hope that the American people 2243 01:33:57,792 --> 01:34:00,083 want those truth-finding mechanisms 2244 01:34:00,166 --> 01:34:02,125 to be able to do their job 2245 01:34:02,208 --> 01:34:04,166 unimpeded. 2246 01:34:04,250 --> 01:34:06,250 Preserve, protect, and defend 2247 01:34:06,333 --> 01:34:09,250 the Constitution of the United States. 2248 01:34:09,333 --> 01:34:11,542 Congratulations, Mr. President. 2249 01:34:11,625 --> 01:34:13,125 No free republic 2250 01:34:13,208 --> 01:34:15,083 in the history of civilization 2251 01:34:15,166 --> 01:34:17,083 has lasted longer than 300 years, 2252 01:34:17,166 --> 01:34:19,333 and that was the Roman Empire. 2253 01:34:19,417 --> 01:34:23,542 We're on year 242. 2254 01:34:23,625 --> 01:34:25,542 If we're gonna make it 2255 01:34:25,625 --> 01:34:27,083 to the three-century mark, 2256 01:34:27,166 --> 01:34:28,709 we have to get through this 2257 01:34:28,792 --> 01:34:30,250 in a way in which 2258 01:34:30,333 --> 01:34:31,792 our institutions 2259 01:34:31,875 --> 01:34:33,917 and the rule of law are strengthened, 2260 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,250 and at the moment, they are under attack 2261 01:34:36,333 --> 01:34:38,500 by the President of the United States. 167890

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.