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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome
to "Cosmic Disclosure."
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I'm your host, David
Wilcock, and I'm here
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with Corey Goode, the
insider's insider,
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a man whose experienceshave truly revolutionized
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what we know about theUFO phenomenon as a whole,
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and particularly what
we know about a group
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within the military industrialcomplex that has colonized
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space and has extensively builtout a vast amount of habitation
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in our solar system for thepurposes of industrial growth
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and trade with a wide variety ofextraterrestrial civilizations.
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So Corey, welcome to the show.
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>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.
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>>DAVID: We've been talkingin previous episodes
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about this very
bizarre chain of events
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that starts to happen when youget pulled back into the space
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program after years of absence.
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We've talked about the enigmaticfigure Lieutenant Colonel
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Gonzales-- not his real name.
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And it appeared that up untilthis outer barrier showed up
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that the Cabal
didn't really think
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they were going to be stopped.
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Would you agree with that?
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>>GOODE: They did not feelthat anything could stop them.
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Their allies in the realm ofthe ETs and the etheric world
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were too strong.
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Their gods were at
their back, and we
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were just useless eaters
that were throwaways,
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and there was no stopping them.
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>>DAVID: Can you
tell us what you
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know about the awakening
of the stasis being
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or beings that seems
to have taken place?
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Why was the Cabal interestedin these stasis beings,
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and what happened
when it woke up?
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>>GOODE: Just like when
the spheres started
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to appear in the
solar system, they
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thought they were the
Sumerian gods returning.
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>>DAVID: They thought
these sphere--
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the stasis beings were?
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>>GOODE: The sphere beings.
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>>DAVID: Oh yeah.
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>>GOODE: They also thoughtthat the stasis beings, they
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had been visiting
and worshipping
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and thought that they
were also their gods.
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And as they started
to revive, they
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were disappointed once again.
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These beings were waking upand were confused and upset,
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and from what I'm
told, were then
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sent off with anothergroup that may or may not
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be ETs to rejoin
their people, which
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I don't know if this is accurateinformation or not coming
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from this source.
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>>DAVID: So if this
source is correct,
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then this was a very majordisappointment to the Cabal.
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>>GOODE: One of many.
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>>DAVID: They thought
one of their gods
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was going to wake
up and basically
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save their butts from
whatever was happening.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: And they did notget what they wanted at all.
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>>GOODE: Right, and this oncemore demoralized the Cabal.
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And one of the strongest of thesecret space programs, the ICC,
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after the recent meetingwith the Draco White Royals
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where the Draco White
Royals had offered up
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all of their human followersin exchange for them
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to be allowed to
leave the solar system
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outside the outer
barrier, the ICC
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was starting to capitulateon a few things.
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And after a lot of informationwas released about the Mars
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slave colonies, that
was a major PR headache
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for the Cabal and the ICC.
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>>DAVID: This sounds
like the Cabal
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was expecting that
they were going to tell
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the truth at some point.
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Or is it more they now
have to tell the truth,
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and they're concernedabout how it's presented?
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>>GOODE: Well, at this
point, they already
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know that a large percentof very high ranking "Cabal"
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secret Earth governmentand secret Earth government
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syndicate members had defectedwith a lot of information
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similar to what
Snowden had, and they
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were joining the alliance, thesecret space program alliance,
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and agreeing at some pointto testify against them.
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And pretty much they
were seeing and hearing
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that there was going
to be a giant data
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dump in the future of
all of this information
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about their crimes
against humanity.
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And a strange offer came up fromthe ICC through a negotiation
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that they wanted to prove thatthings were not so bad on Mars
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as had been claimed
through recent reports
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that I had released and otherswere beginning to talk about
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on the internet, about the"slave colonies" on Mars,
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that these people were thereon their own free will,
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that they were happy, and thatthey were doing important work.
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>>DAVID: So in a sense, theICC version of the Cabal
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is now anticipatingmultiple whistleblowers that
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have very high
level knowledge that
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are going to come forwardand incriminate them greatly.
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And because of theimportance that they see you
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as having, they wanted you to begiven a show that would try to
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ameliorate your concerns
about it and make
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everybody seem like they'reall holding hands and singing
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"Kumbaya" on Mars.
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>>GOODE: It wasn't all about me.
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It was more of a show for thesecret space program alliance
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council's representatives,being Gonzales and myself.
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>>DAVID: I guess
one of the problems
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that some people
are going to have
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with this is if thisspace program's mission is
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so important with the alliance,why would they throw you out
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here like a canary
in the coal mine?
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Why wouldn't they deploy
five different people
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that all know what youknow at once, for example?
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>>GOODE: I was told-- andI've expected before now more
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to pop up.
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And I'm challenging
you now out there,
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those who are out there--start coming forward.
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There are plenty
of people out there
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that know a lot of whatI've been speaking about.
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And as I've said
in the past, I've
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watched many in the past thathave talked to you, even, walk
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right up to the line,
stop, and about face,
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and then disappear
out of public.
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And there are a lot of peoplethat know this information
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or compartmentalized piecesof this information that
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can come forward, and Ibelieve will be coming forward,
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with this similar information.
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>>DAVID: Yeah, and
actually the first guest
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that we wanted to have
on the show "Disclosure"
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was Henry Deacon.
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And I had personally paid forhis ticket to fly out here.
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And then right
before he was going
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to fly out here;
right before, he
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got very severely threatened.
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And that torched
the whole thing.
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So part of, perhaps, why morepeople haven't come forward
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is just the severity
of force and coercion
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that is used to try tostop this from getting out.
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Because I've spoken to
several other people
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that know a lot of thesame things that you know.
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And none of them
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>>GOODE: It's time.
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>>DAVID: So the ICC is notjust presenting this for you
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and your readers
on the internet.
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They're anticipating thatyou're like the first pebble
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of an avalanche that's
going to hit them.
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And they want to do this showfor the alliance as a whole.
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>>GOODE: Right, and this was inanticipation also of these data
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dumps.
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And they're wanting
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a spin on the situation.
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>>DAVID: And just to recapthat in case somebody missed
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that episode, you said
the NSA was hacking
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all the space program stuff.
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>>GOODE: Well, what Snowdenhad gotten his hands on,
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the NSA had made one of thecardinal mistakes of putting
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all their eggs in one basket.
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And they were overconfident.
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And they had all
types of information
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they were using to
blackmail politicians
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and people all over the world.
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And they had secret spaceprogram information all highly
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encrypted.
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Snowden got a hold of thatand booked it out of the US.
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And the information
he had been sending
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over satellites for some time.
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He didn't just have a smallhard drive in his back pocket
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when he fled.
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It was tons, terabytes
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>>DAVID: I've heard
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>>GOODE: All of that has nowbeen fully decrypted very
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recently.
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>>DAVID: As in June
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>>GOODE: Yeah,
just very recently.
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So all of that is-- they'restill going through it.
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It's just recently
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And then we have all this tonsand tons more other information
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in these recent
hacks that people
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heard a little bit about.
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And so this is the informationthat the ICC is worried about.
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And this gets us
to why they offered
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to have sort of like aNATO type inspection of one
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of their colonies of "our"choice on Mars to inspect
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the condition, livingconditions, of the colonists.
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>>DAVID: How many
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are you aware of there being?
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>>GOODE: There are dozensof colonies, facilities,
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and industrial plants
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And a lot of these coloniesare in the outskirts
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of these plants.
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And the people areshuttled to them to work.
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>>DAVID: Well, I guess
it would make sense
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if you have a whole planetthat there would be dozens
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of facilities on the planet.
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>>GOODE: And it was one ofthese types of facilities
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that we were taken to
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>>DAVID: So let's talk throughthe story starting with,
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you're at home.
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Were you given a call
by Gonzales or something
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to tell you when this
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>>GOODE: Yep, I was warnedthat it was going to happen.
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I didn't anticipate
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I walked into my living room.
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I hadn't gotten dressed yet.
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And the blue little
orb friend of mine
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flew in through my slidingglass door, patio door,
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zipped right through the glassand started zipping around.
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>>DAVID: How big was
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>>GOODE: It's about this size.
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>>DAVID: And does it
look like a golf ball,
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like a round ball kind of thing?
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>>GOODE: Mhmm, and
I knew I wasn't
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going to be able to walk
back into my bedroom,
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get ready and all that.
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So I basically stand there.
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I put my hands like this, and Imentally let it know I'm ready.
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And it zips right about 18inches for my chest, expands.
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I am now floating
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And then it's like kind
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blur as it pffft takes off.
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>>DAVID: And what's the senseof duration when that happens?
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How long are you in it for?
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>>GOODE: Moments.
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>>DAVID: It's very rapid.
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>>GOODE: Very rapid.
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>>DAVID: You don't experiencea sense of movement or stars?
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>>GOODE: No, there's a senseof movement in the beginning.
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But then all of a sudden,you're at your location.
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And there's a room thatI've become very familiar
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with at the LOC.
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It's a very large
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Since then, it's
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for this type of
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of not only myself but
a lot of the civilians
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that have been brought up to dowhatever they're doing there.
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But that's a different subject.
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>>DAVID: Did the
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tell you if they have a wayof locking the Cabal out
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of that area so that
it can't be spied upon?
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Why would this area be secure?
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>>GOODE: No, this is afacility that has to be-- it
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is a shared facility
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don't have access to becausethe Cabal groups are using it.
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But the main table
has been scooted
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against the wall for
months now to give
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a larger area of the
conference room open.
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>>DAVID: Just so more
people can come in?
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>>GOODE: Right,
because there's been
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a large number of people
in there at one time,
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like 70 or more people.
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And so I appear there.
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Shortly after I appear, oneof the security personnel
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comes in.
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And I tell them I need
something to wear.
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He asks me what size am I.And he looks me up and down.
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And he leaves, comes
back, brings back
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a-- usually when I'm notprepared I'm given used-type
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clothing.
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And this was very, very crisp.
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>>DAVID: Has it at
least been laundered?
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>>GOODE: Yeah, it was a verycrisp jumpsuit and a brand
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new pair of boots almost
exactly like these
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that have the zipper on theside for going through security
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points where you can
pop them off real quick
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and then zip them back on withlaces in the front that were
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brand new, had never been worn.
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But I was just standingthere in shorts, t-shirt,
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and wearing flip-flops.
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So I was totally unprepared.
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>>DAVID: So you get dressed.
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>>GOODE: So after I
had gotten dressed,
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I was waiting for
a little while.
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And security personnel
came and escorted me
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to one of the launch
bays, or the areas where
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they keep the shuttle craft.
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And as I walked out, I sawlike a semicircle, a group
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of people standing, talking.
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And Gonzales saw me comingand kind of acknowledged me,
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and I saw the ICCrepresentative standing there.
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And there were a bunch of
the secret space program
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councilmen standing
there basically
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kind of wishing a goodmission, hoping all of this
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was a success, a
political kind of talk.
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>>DAVID: The ICC chairman,is that an extraterrestrial?
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Is that a reptilian
or something?
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>>GOODE: No, this
was a human being.
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He was an ICC councilman,like a high up.
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>>DAVID: So what
did he look like?
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Could you describe him?
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>>GOODE: Yeah, he had grayhair, grayish-white hair,
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was not a real stocky guy,was wearing one of those suits
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that I've described.
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>>DAVID: Like the Nehru jacket?
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>>GOODE: Yeah, Nehru,
the India, kind of.
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I don't know why
those are so popular.
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But that seems to
have become the thing
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to wear for the people in power.
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So we get onto what
I've described.
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They come in different sizesbetween 40 and 60 feet long--
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shuttle craft.
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And they're modular
on the inside.
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I've seen them changed out forall different types of uses,
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including troop
transport, medical.
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This one was set up obviouslyfor a VIP situation.
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It had enough seats
for all of us.
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And once we sat in the seats--and I have a very long report
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online about this.
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I'm abbreviating
it for the show.
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Gonzales was doing
most of the talking.
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He is an impeccable politician.
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And I mean, he has
all these skills
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of dealing with these
types of people.
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I really had been
out of the loop.
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I was really
listening to see if I
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was going to get more
information than I'd
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been given.
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Before I knew it, we hadstopped pretty far outside
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of the Mars orbit.
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We were stopped.
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And when we did, a giant--almost, I would estimate,
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about 70 inch diagonally--panel came down.
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It was one of the largerversions of the smart glass
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pads.
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And a three dimensional
image of Mars appeared.
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And all these
different icons started
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appearing to where there
were these Mars bases.
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>>DAVID: How many
icons were there?
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>>GOODE: I can't remember now.
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There were quite a
few, at least a dozen.
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There were a large number.
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And we were only seeing oneside of Mars at this point.
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>>DAVID: Were they in
the northern hemisphere
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or the southern hemisphere?
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>>GOODE: These were all upin the northern hemisphere.
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But this ICC guy startedpointing to the different ones,
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making recommendations
of ones we should visit.
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And at this time, Gonzalessaid, "Well, wait a second."
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And he didn't touch anything.
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I guess he had some
sort of mental component
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way of activating
this new icon down
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in the southern hemisphere.
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And when he did, the
ICC representative
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immediately kind of straightenedup and was disturbed.
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And Gonzales said, we've
chosen this facility.
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And the ICC representativewas obviously
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a complete politician.
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He very quickly on his
feet said, "This is not
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a working facility.
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It doesn't have a colony.
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It's old."
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I think he was saying it waslike an automated facility.
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It's not something you'd beinterested in, playing it down.
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And Gonzales
immediately said, "Well,
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one of our recent defectorslived on this colony.
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And we have very freshand detailed intelligence
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about this facility.
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This is the one
we want to visit."
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>>DAVID: I bet that's goingto throw him into a panic.
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>>GOODE: He was concerned.
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The ICC representative
was concerned.
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And he excused
himself to go back
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into one of the modular rooms.
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And apparently, he had somesort of communication device
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or a way to communicate.
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And he said he had
to get it cleared.
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And he appeared a
few minutes later
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and said that it was
going to be approved,
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but it was going to
take about an hour
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to have everything clearedand the airspace cleared
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and have it all worked
out-- obviously time
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for them to clean up thebase and make arrangements.
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So approximately 50 minutes
later, one of the crew
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said, "We're cleared for
landing," and off we go.
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As we entered the atmosphere, wesaw outside the clear panels--
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pink and lavender,
purple discharges
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around the shielding.
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And we flew real quickly
towards the ground,
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which was exhilarating
and then cut real hard
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and started flying
along the surface
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into what looked like used to bepart of a river water feature.
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And there was sort
of a cliff wall,
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kind of like a cliff wall.
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And out of it came--
a cylinder rose up.
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>>DAVID: It was metallic?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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That was basically
air traffic control.
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And then an opening
opened up that wasn't
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visible before in the sideof the canyon type wall.
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We slowed down, flew inside.
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As we flew inside, there
were bays on each side.
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And on each side,
there were two craft
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on either side of
a catwalk that I
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hadn't seen before that
were somewhat teardrop
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shaped and chrome colored.
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And I believe it was the
third bay on the right,
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we were apparently
cleared to land.
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And there was one of the
teardrop shaped vessels,
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and then kind of a large
circular area for us
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to land, which our
craft barely fit on.
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And we landed.
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The ICC representative
got out of our craft
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and jogged-- half
running, half walking
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to the security
people that met him,
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went to the security
checkpoint, and then
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came back running doingthis, that everything was OK.
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And Gonzales and I had
two security personnel
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that were IEs
assigned to each of us
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that were allowed
to carry firearms.
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We disembarked.
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We headed to the checkpoint.
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The security at thestation told our security,
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no weapons passed this point.
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There was an exchangebetween Gonzales and the ICC
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representative that
this was supposed to be
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already a part of the deal.
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The ICC representative
went and talked
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to what was the leader
of the facility.
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The leader of the facilityscowled and did this to motion
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us through.
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And we entered into the base.
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And there was no one present.
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And he said that the
main hall was being
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prepared for the presentation.
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And the rest of the ICCpersonnel were on their way.
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They'd been informed
of the location
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and that we were
going to be sent first
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to the industrial complex to seewhere a certain component was
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produced.
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And then they put us on
a train, a small train,
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that was very narrow, andwas two people across,
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to where I sat
across-- we sat across
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from each other just like this.
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And the way we
entered in-- there
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were quite a few of thecolony's security personnel
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that were accompanying us.
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And I had one of mysecurity on each side of me.
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And across from me were fiveof the colony's security.
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And as we were heading
down very quickly--
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it was about 8
kilometers I think
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I heard them say to the
industrial complex-- I
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was asked where I was from.
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And I made the mistake
of saying Texas.
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Well, I left out
before we were told
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that as we had landed,
before we had entered
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into the checkpoint, theICC representative told us,
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"Listen, this particular
base is a part
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of a social experiment that'svery important to humanity.
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Please don't contaminate it."
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They were told that
Earth was uninhabitable
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from some sort of
catastrophe or something
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and that the only people,human beings, that survived
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were those on Mars and
in the space program.
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So I had pretty much messed up.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: Because I was
recently sunburned.
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And I had put on aloe
and all kinds of stuff.
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I reeked of Earth, I was told.
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>>DAVID: Do they all usesimilar hygiene products?
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>>GOODE: Yeah, they used allthe exact same hygiene products.
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Gonzales told me later on mydeodorant, the lotions I used,
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the hair gel, everything--
I totally smelled alien.
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>>DAVID: So what happenedon this guy's face
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when you say Texas, and hethinks that the Earth has
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been destroyed?
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>>GOODE: Well, the
few in front of me
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immediately were
like-- you know?
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And they looked at each other.
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And they immediately startedtalking amongst themselves.
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And then my security guy andthe security guy next to him
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started talking.
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And the next thing I know, Isee Gonzales' head poke out
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and his head crane overand look in my direction.
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And I didn't even look at him.
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I just like looked
past the security guys
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and watched the blurry wallgoing by out the window
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until we stopped.
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And then we got out to beginthe tour of the facility.
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>>DAVID: What did Gonzales--when he looked at you,
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what was the--
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>>GOODE: I didn't look at him.
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But he approached me
very quickly afterwards,
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and he said that
he was thinking how
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he could salvage the situation.
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He was going to try to
think of Texas being
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a secret facility or asecret vessel or something
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like that to try to
save the situation.
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>>DAVID: Do you thinkthey were shown some sort
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of fake Hollywood style movie?
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>>GOODE: Who knows.
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But what I do know is--
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>>DAVID: That they
believed it absolutely.
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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What I do know is that
many of these people,
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especially during the braindrain era and a little after,
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were being brought in,coerced to join these Mars
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colonies being told thatthe Earth was about to go
498
00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:38,472
through a catastrophe, thatthey were the best of the best,
499
00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:42,172
they were "special,"
and they were
500
00:29:42,302 --> 00:29:46,572
a part of a continuity
of preservation
501
00:29:46,697 --> 00:29:52,007
of the human species programto basically colonize
502
00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:58,138
Mars and eventually
terraform Mars
503
00:29:58,274 --> 00:30:01,764
and restart the human race.
504
00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:03,317
>>DAVID: People
who are millennials
505
00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:06,983
and who've grown up buriedin texting and smartphones
506
00:30:07,109 --> 00:30:10,069
may not realize how
much of a threat
507
00:30:10,199 --> 00:30:11,849
people from yours
and my generation
508
00:30:11,984 --> 00:30:14,514
and then our parents'
generation really
509
00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:16,728
believed there was going
to be a nuclear war.
510
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:19,168
I mean, it was a veryfrightening, scary thing.
511
00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:20,685
>>GOODE: Oh yeah, I remember.
512
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:25,689
We both were at the ageto where duck and cover--
513
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,134
get under your desk.
514
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:28,610
>>DAVID: As if that's
going to do anything.
515
00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,129
>>GOODE: Right.
516
00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:31,833
>>DAVID: So do you
think that they
517
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,400
may have been told
that there had been
518
00:30:33,527 --> 00:30:35,047
a nuclear war since
there was so much fear
519
00:30:35,181 --> 00:30:36,271
that it was going to happen?
520
00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:37,969
>>GOODE: I don't
know what they were
521
00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:43,447
told, if it was a solar event,a war, or a supervolcano.
522
00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:45,020
Who knows.
523
00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:46,667
>>DAVID: But what a greatway to keep people from
524
00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:48,191
wanting to escape.
525
00:30:48,324 --> 00:30:49,284
Because that's their home.
526
00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:50,852
They've got nowhere else to go.
527
00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:52,149
>>GOODE: Yes.
528
00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:54,025
>>DAVID: Interesting.
529
00:30:54,156 --> 00:30:56,676
Did these folks in
this particular colony
530
00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:58,771
or these other
colonies have contact
531
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,340
with different
extraterrestrial races,
532
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,167
or were they predominantlyby themselves
533
00:31:03,296 --> 00:31:04,946
as humans from Earth?
534
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600
>>GOODE: Some of them definitelyworked with different ET races
535
00:31:07,735 --> 00:31:10,295
and saw different ET races.
536
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:13,923
A lot of these bases weredoing commerce with ET races.
537
00:31:14,046 --> 00:31:18,266
So I'm assuming so,
but I'm not positive.
538
00:31:18,398 --> 00:31:20,048
>>DAVID: I know that
you didn't live there.
539
00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:24,882
But I'm curious if
people had, for example,
540
00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:28,363
a sub shuttle systems similarto what they have on Earth
541
00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:30,795
so they could travel throughoutall these different bases
542
00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,242
and colonies.
543
00:31:32,368 --> 00:31:33,978
Was there like an
internet on Mars
544
00:31:34,109 --> 00:31:35,419
that they could all access?
545
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:36,935
Did they have theability to talk to people
546
00:31:37,069 --> 00:31:38,679
in different facilities?
547
00:31:38,809 --> 00:31:42,509
>>GOODE: No, I didn't explainthe train system very well.
548
00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:48,949
It was almost like
vitrified rock.
549
00:31:49,081 --> 00:31:52,211
And it was rippled like glass.
550
00:31:52,345 --> 00:31:53,645
>>DAVID: That is
exactly what I've
551
00:31:53,781 --> 00:31:57,521
heard from at least
two other insiders.
552
00:31:57,654 --> 00:31:59,134
They have these
boring machines that
553
00:31:59,265 --> 00:32:02,785
use some kind of nuclearenergy, and they drive forward,
554
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:04,401
and they melt the rock.
555
00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:06,971
But then they have to stopand create a little ring.
556
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:10,319
Because if you just go straightthrough, then it'll crack,
557
00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:11,800
and dirt falls in.
558
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,150
They stop it periodically,make these little rings
559
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,240
that reinforce the
strength of the tunnel.
560
00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:18,019
>>GOODE: It was like
ribbed, rippled.
561
00:32:18,153 --> 00:32:19,763
>>DAVID: There you
go, OK, perfect.
562
00:32:19,894 --> 00:32:23,514
>>GOODE: And there
were cross sections
563
00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:25,767
where we went-- as
we were going along,
564
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,550
there were cross tunnels.
565
00:32:27,684 --> 00:32:31,734
And they had connections
to other facilities
566
00:32:31,862 --> 00:32:33,652
to where they would
bring in parts.
567
00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,037
And so they were connectedto other facilities
568
00:32:36,171 --> 00:32:40,831
to where they could
bring in parts
569
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:43,479
or whatever else they needed.
570
00:32:43,613 --> 00:32:44,833
>>DAVID: Do they
have any contact
571
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:46,493
with each other on the planet?
572
00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:48,616
>>GOODE: They have limitedcontact with each other,
573
00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,139
it appears.
574
00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:51,322
>>DAVID: Only high rankingpeople, not the rank
575
00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:53,187
and file staff?
576
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,669
>>GOODE: I would say "needto know" kind of situation.
577
00:32:57,801 --> 00:32:59,721
>>DAVID: So they're livinga very isolated life.
578
00:32:59,847 --> 00:33:01,627
It's not like they have
a big social circle.
579
00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,422
>>GOODE: Very regimented life.
580
00:33:04,547 --> 00:33:05,937
>>DAVID: So what happens next?
581
00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:12,821
>>GOODE: So we werestarting to begin the tour.
582
00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:16,337
There was this one
colonist that was
583
00:33:16,472 --> 00:33:22,572
there that was showing acompleted curved component that
584
00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:26,956
was a neurological
optical interface that
585
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:34,712
was real popular to be
used in different craft.
586
00:33:34,838 --> 00:33:37,018
>>DAVID: What would
that actually do?
587
00:33:37,145 --> 00:33:39,015
It's optical and neurological?
588
00:33:39,147 --> 00:33:41,407
Does it track the movementof your eye or something?
589
00:33:41,541 --> 00:33:46,021
>>GOODE: Well no,through other technology,
590
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:50,034
you neurologically
interface it, and it
591
00:33:50,158 --> 00:33:53,678
interfaces other
technology and gives
592
00:33:53,814 --> 00:33:58,994
some sort of optical
display or something.
593
00:33:59,124 --> 00:34:05,484
We're really about
to get started.
594
00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:08,998
The machinery, the roboticautomated machinery
595
00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:10,404
that builds it,
they were talking
596
00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:12,876
about the different shapes.
597
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:13,827
Some are curved.
598
00:34:13,964 --> 00:34:15,234
Some are straight.
599
00:34:15,357 --> 00:34:17,097
>>DAVID: Is this like
a helmet that you wear?
600
00:34:17,229 --> 00:34:18,669
>>GOODE: No, no,
it's like something
601
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:20,445
that goes into a vessel.
602
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:24,410
And we were just
starting this when--
603
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:30,240
and the train had left
after we had gotten out.
604
00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:31,772
>>DAVID: This is
the industrial part
605
00:34:31,895 --> 00:34:32,975
of the tour they said
you were going to get.
606
00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:34,424
>>GOODE: Right.
607
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:36,200
>>DAVID: Were there a
lot of people around?
608
00:34:36,335 --> 00:34:38,855
>>GOODE: No, at this time therewas just this one colonist that
609
00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:42,729
was apparently
like a foreman kind
610
00:34:42,863 --> 00:34:48,353
of a guy that was there
to give us a talk.
611
00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:55,137
And the ICC representativekept touching his ear.
612
00:34:55,267 --> 00:35:01,057
And he was scowling,
looked concerned,
613
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:02,796
and was kind of standing back.
614
00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:04,886
>>DAVID: Oh, you're sayingit's like an ear piece,
615
00:35:05,015 --> 00:35:06,835
not that he was trying
to non-verbally signal
616
00:35:06,974 --> 00:35:08,414
to the colonist guy.
617
00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:10,721
>>GOODE: Like an earwig.
618
00:35:10,847 --> 00:35:15,327
They put them in your ear, andyou can hear, and you can talk.
619
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,681
But it's not easy to see.
620
00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:19,641
>>DAVID: OK, so he's got
his own little earwig.
621
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:27,819
>>GOODE: Right, and the
facility security team
622
00:35:27,951 --> 00:35:33,221
was more and more looking atus, talking amongst themselves.
623
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,738
It was obvious that they werechattering amongst themselves.
624
00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:37,222
>>DAVID: Because
of the Texas thing.
625
00:35:37,352 --> 00:35:38,832
>>GOODE: Because of
the Texas comment.
626
00:35:38,962 --> 00:35:41,102
>>DAVID: And you smell
funny and look funny.
627
00:35:41,226 --> 00:35:42,356
>>GOODE: And I had a sunburn.
628
00:35:42,488 --> 00:35:43,918
I was peeling.
629
00:35:44,054 --> 00:35:45,274
Even my scalp was peeling.
630
00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:46,364
I just had a haircut.
631
00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:48,102
I'd been in the sun.
632
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,713
And I had put aloe
vera all over myself.
633
00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:57,072
And another train arrived.
634
00:35:57,198 --> 00:36:02,118
And a whole-- like double thesize-- huge amount of security
635
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:08,077
came out and came and disarmedall of their own security team
636
00:36:08,209 --> 00:36:10,259
that had accompanied us.
637
00:36:10,385 --> 00:36:15,085
And the ICC representativecame and told us
638
00:36:15,216 --> 00:36:21,656
that we needed to be verycareful what we talked about
639
00:36:21,788 --> 00:36:27,228
and to remember the agreement.
640
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,929
>>DAVID: Were they worried thatthe guy that you said Texas to
641
00:36:30,057 --> 00:36:32,577
was going to frag and shoot you?
642
00:36:32,712 --> 00:36:35,372
Is that why him and
his team were disarmed,
643
00:36:35,497 --> 00:36:37,057
because they were
worried about some sort
644
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,105
of psychological break?
645
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,460
>>GOODE: Well, the way theywere putting it across to us
646
00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:46,250
was that we had contaminatedtheir social experiment.
647
00:36:46,378 --> 00:36:53,558
And then half of the
new security group
648
00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:58,479
escorted the old securityfacility group into the train
649
00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:00,387
and left.
650
00:37:00,522 --> 00:37:04,832
And shortly later
the train came back.
651
00:37:04,961 --> 00:37:07,621
We got in it and headed back.
652
00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:15,707
Because they said that themain hall had been set up
653
00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:19,412
and that the ICC
representatives had
654
00:37:19,541 --> 00:37:24,151
arrived and were ready
for the presentation.
655
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:27,155
So we headed back.
656
00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:30,418
And when we arrived
back this time,
657
00:37:30,552 --> 00:37:34,382
there were peopleeverywhere where before it
658
00:37:34,513 --> 00:37:36,603
was just noticeably empty.
659
00:37:36,732 --> 00:37:45,222
And in these places, you useevery square foot of space.
660
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:52,490
So to have a huge area like thatwith no one around was unusual.
661
00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:57,058
Well, all of a sudden, now thereare all of these colonists.
662
00:37:57,187 --> 00:38:03,407
And they were obviouslywearing their Sunday's best,
663
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:10,642
some of them wearing alldifferent types of one-pieces,
664
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:14,506
some of them wearing
khakis and blues
665
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,030
and all different colors,some of them actually wearing
666
00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:20,564
two-piece types of clothing.
667
00:38:20,689 --> 00:38:24,519
And they were all
doing their work.
668
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:28,520
But they were all trying tomake eye contact with us.
669
00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:30,534
It was kind of
obvious that they had
670
00:38:30,656 --> 00:38:33,526
been told that a
part of the deal
671
00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:35,179
was that we were
going to be allowed
672
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:39,843
to bring one family
back with us to question
673
00:38:39,969 --> 00:38:43,969
about the conditions
of the facility.
674
00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:46,194
So they were kind of
just hopefully trying
675
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:47,894
to make eye contact with us.
676
00:38:48,021 --> 00:38:50,811
>>DAVID: Sort of like goinginto a dog and cat shelter.
677
00:38:50,937 --> 00:38:51,977
>>GOODE: Right.
678
00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,812
>>DAVID: Wow, so sad.
679
00:38:54,941 --> 00:38:56,511
>>GOODE: There were
two different parts.
680
00:38:56,638 --> 00:39:02,778
We got to do a tour of
where the people lived
681
00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:06,255
and see their small quarterswhere the people were
682
00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:09,477
smiling and looking all happy.
683
00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:11,998
>>DAVID: Could you describe oneof these quarters just briefly
684
00:39:12,132 --> 00:39:13,442
for us?
685
00:39:13,568 --> 00:39:14,568
Like do they have a
place where they cook?
686
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:15,700
Do they have a bathroom?
687
00:39:15,831 --> 00:39:17,791
Do they have different bedrooms?
688
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,790
>>GOODE: They were
like jail cells.
689
00:39:20,923 --> 00:39:21,493
>>DAVID: Really?
690
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:23,140
>>GOODE: Yeah.
691
00:39:23,273 --> 00:39:26,363
Into the walls they had beds.
692
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:32,944
And they did not prepare
their food there.
693
00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:35,236
They all went to one
central location to eat.
694
00:39:40,073 --> 00:39:42,773
And they went to one centrallocation to go to the bathroom
695
00:39:42,902 --> 00:39:49,522
and to bathe and all that, orshared locations for groups.
696
00:39:49,648 --> 00:39:51,738
>>DAVID: Wow, did they havea toilet in the room even?
697
00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:52,477
>>GOODE: No.
698
00:39:52,607 --> 00:39:52,997
>>DAVID: Wow.
699
00:39:56,176 --> 00:39:58,266
But there's no bars on the door?
700
00:39:58,396 --> 00:39:59,916
They can come and
go if they want to.
701
00:40:00,049 --> 00:40:01,219
>>GOODE: Right, but I'm sure--
702
00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:03,615
>>DAVID: How big
was the hallway?
703
00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:08,229
>>GOODE: The hallway
was fairly wide.
704
00:40:08,362 --> 00:40:14,462
I mean, it was big enoughfor probably six people
705
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:15,846
side by side.
706
00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:17,238
>>DAVID: But is
it just like rooms
707
00:40:17,371 --> 00:40:18,421
like this all the way down?
708
00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:19,936
>>GOODE: It was,
yeah, just rooms
709
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:21,459
like that all the way down.
710
00:40:21,593 --> 00:40:22,813
>>DAVID: No windows or anything?
711
00:40:22,942 --> 00:40:24,292
>>GOODE: No, no windows.
712
00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:26,602
>>DAVID: Did they have
light, like floor lamps,
713
00:40:26,728 --> 00:40:30,598
or ceiling mounted light,or how did it light?
714
00:40:30,732 --> 00:40:33,042
>>GOODE: There's a type ofsonic lighting that they have.
715
00:40:33,169 --> 00:40:34,299
>>DAVID: Sonic lighting.
716
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,782
>>GOODE: Yeah,
it's pretty common.
717
00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:42,272
It's sound waves
that produce light.
718
00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:43,436
>>DAVID: Where are they?
719
00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:45,141
>>GOODE: On the ceiling.
720
00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:46,748
>>DAVID: Is it one
area of the ceiling,
721
00:40:46,879 --> 00:40:48,359
or like the whole
ceiling just glows?
722
00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:50,579
>>GOODE: The panels of theceiling, the whole ceiling.
723
00:40:50,709 --> 00:40:52,619
>>DAVID: Wow, cool.
724
00:40:52,754 --> 00:41:00,814
>>GOODE: And so Gonzales madea mental note of, I guess,
725
00:41:00,936 --> 00:41:08,286
the habitation number oraddress of one of the places,
726
00:41:08,422 --> 00:41:10,082
unbeknownst to me.
727
00:41:10,206 --> 00:41:14,076
We also went to whatGonzales referred to as a dog
728
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:17,080
and pony show that
the ICC put on.
729
00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:22,313
What they were calling the mainhall or this gathering place
730
00:41:22,436 --> 00:41:25,266
looked very much like a
place where people were
731
00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:27,395
brought in and fed propaganda.
732
00:41:30,531 --> 00:41:32,451
>>DAVID: Did you get anintuitive feeling of that?
733
00:41:32,577 --> 00:41:33,927
>>GOODE: Yes.
734
00:41:34,056 --> 00:41:38,226
It had been set up
with chairs around.
735
00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:42,015
And there was another one ofthose very large smart glass
736
00:41:42,151 --> 00:41:43,461
type of screens.
737
00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:44,548
>>DAVID: So it's like
an auditorium where
738
00:41:44,676 --> 00:41:45,976
a bunch of people could be.
739
00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:49,642
>>GOODE: Yes, it was a
very large auditorium.
740
00:41:49,768 --> 00:41:51,988
>>DAVID: Did they have somethinglike TV in their houses?
741
00:41:52,118 --> 00:41:53,728
Was there anything
they could watch?
742
00:41:53,859 --> 00:41:58,209
>>GOODE: Uh-uh, not that I saw,not unless it's retractable.
743
00:41:58,341 --> 00:41:59,261
We go in.
744
00:41:59,386 --> 00:42:00,296
Some introductions are made.
745
00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:01,480
We sit down.
746
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:05,086
And they give a
dog and pony show.
747
00:42:05,218 --> 00:42:08,918
They start to show us allthese different technologies
748
00:42:09,048 --> 00:42:17,748
that they barter and tradeand sell, basically, to ETs.
749
00:42:17,883 --> 00:42:19,753
>>DAVID: Is the ICCrepresentative giving you
750
00:42:19,885 --> 00:42:21,665
the presentation at
this point, or does he
751
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,580
have colleagues that are
also working with him?
752
00:42:23,715 --> 00:42:26,535
>>GOODE: Different
colleagues, yeah.
753
00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,374
Different guys, they're
giving presentations.
754
00:42:29,503 --> 00:42:32,253
They're very proud of
what they're presenting.
755
00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:35,375
There were different craft,different components of craft,
756
00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:38,989
different just small--
they were presenting
757
00:42:39,121 --> 00:42:44,391
just a whole lot of
different technologies
758
00:42:44,518 --> 00:42:47,698
from the micro to
the full product.
759
00:42:47,826 --> 00:42:49,736
>>DAVID: Was there anythingthat really jumped out
760
00:42:49,871 --> 00:42:53,181
that surprised you that
you didn't know existed
761
00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:56,529
or that was really kind ofcool, unusual, unexpected?
762
00:42:56,661 --> 00:43:01,061
>>GOODE: Well, not reallyother than the fact
763
00:43:01,187 --> 00:43:05,797
that there were actual vesselsthat we were engineering
764
00:43:05,931 --> 00:43:09,891
and building that advancedextraterrestrial groups were
765
00:43:10,022 --> 00:43:13,422
interested in procuring from us.
766
00:43:13,547 --> 00:43:20,077
I mean, we'd come this far inproducing advanced technology
767
00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:23,336
that other groups wanted it?
768
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:26,650
One of the things thatjumped out at me the most
769
00:43:26,778 --> 00:43:31,998
was the fact that one of
the ICC representatives
770
00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:35,741
announced that we
were doing trade
771
00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:39,314
on a regular basis with
nearly 900 ET races.
772
00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:44,057
>>DAVID: That's astonishing.
773
00:43:44,186 --> 00:43:46,706
>>GOODE: And that was
on a regular basis
774
00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:53,591
and that we were occasionallydoing trade with far more.
775
00:43:53,718 --> 00:43:55,018
>>DAVID: Far more
as in thousands?
776
00:43:55,154 --> 00:43:55,724
>>GOODE: Right.
777
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:58,200
>>DAVID: Whew.
778
00:43:58,331 --> 00:44:01,421
Did they give any sense of howmuch of the galaxy this covers?
779
00:44:01,551 --> 00:44:03,771
Is it just a small area?
780
00:44:03,902 --> 00:44:06,342
>>GOODE: No, no,
I'm not exactly sure
781
00:44:06,469 --> 00:44:08,649
where all these
groups come from.
782
00:44:08,776 --> 00:44:13,516
But considering that justoutside of our solar system
783
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:21,401
is a major hub as far
as a portal system that
784
00:44:21,528 --> 00:44:26,318
travels through the cosmicweb of portal systems-- this
785
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:30,316
is like an oasis stop over.
786
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,800
We see a lot of traffic
through the area.
787
00:44:32,931 --> 00:44:35,721
Most groups don't stop
by our solar system,
788
00:44:35,847 --> 00:44:38,677
because it's seen as very messy.
789
00:44:38,806 --> 00:44:42,546
With the slavery going onand all that, most of them
790
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,120
don't want to deal with this.
791
00:44:45,247 --> 00:44:47,117
They stay outside
of our solar system.
792
00:44:47,249 --> 00:44:51,079
They do their calculationsand pfft, they go.
793
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:55,740
But the ones that are amoralor don't have a problem with it
794
00:44:55,867 --> 00:44:59,777
come and do trade with the ICC.
795
00:44:59,914 --> 00:45:02,534
>>DAVID: By the time you sawthis dog and pony show, had you
796
00:45:02,656 --> 00:45:04,826
already been told thatthese technologies were all
797
00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,923
going to be handed to humanityafter this big disclosure takes
798
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:09,713
place?
799
00:45:09,837 --> 00:45:13,967
>>GOODE: Right, we had alreadybeen told that the secret space
800
00:45:14,102 --> 00:45:21,542
program alliance was toldto stop any attacks-- no
801
00:45:21,675 --> 00:45:29,725
longer attack the ICC
infrastructure-- to stop
802
00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:31,817
the violence.
803
00:45:31,946 --> 00:45:34,116
They were already
having problems
804
00:45:34,253 --> 00:45:38,693
swallowing the-- be moreloving, be more forgiving,
805
00:45:38,823 --> 00:45:40,483
raise your consciousness.
806
00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:43,307
And all of this stuff
to them was just
807
00:45:43,436 --> 00:45:47,136
totally foreign information.
808
00:45:47,266 --> 00:45:50,306
But they were told to
stop all the violence.
809
00:45:50,443 --> 00:45:52,233
And they did.
810
00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:53,928
Especially after they
found out that all
811
00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:59,885
of this infrastructure afterthe great disclosure events
812
00:46:00,018 --> 00:46:04,458
and people had dealt withcertain things on Earth,
813
00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:06,237
all this infrastructure
was going
814
00:46:06,372 --> 00:46:12,032
to be handed over to humanityto be the foundation of a "Star
815
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,210
Trek" type civilization.
816
00:46:14,336 --> 00:46:15,946
>>DAVID: Which sounds
exactly like what
817
00:46:16,077 --> 00:46:19,207
so many ancient cultures andmodern channeling traditions
818
00:46:19,341 --> 00:46:24,831
all say, is this big epicgolden age that we move into.
819
00:46:24,956 --> 00:46:28,696
So this is a very interestingpractical realization of that.
820
00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:32,829
>>GOODE: Right, and the spherebeing alliance was saying,
821
00:46:32,964 --> 00:46:35,444
quit wrecking things.
822
00:46:35,575 --> 00:46:38,795
Quit destroying all
the infrastructure.
823
00:46:38,926 --> 00:46:43,146
You're tearing up stuff thatafter all of these changes
824
00:46:43,278 --> 00:46:46,368
happen are going to behanded over to the people.
825
00:46:46,499 --> 00:46:47,809
>>DAVID: Wow.
826
00:46:47,935 --> 00:46:50,675
Was it a surprise to
Gonzales or others that
827
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,808
were part of his detachmentthat there were 900 groups that
828
00:46:53,941 --> 00:46:57,031
were in, as you said,constant trade with the ICC,
829
00:46:57,162 --> 00:46:58,772
or did they already
all know that?
830
00:46:58,903 --> 00:47:02,913
>>GOODE: I seemed to be the onethat was the most surprised.
831
00:47:03,037 --> 00:47:05,127
I usually seem to
be the one that's
832
00:47:05,257 --> 00:47:09,647
most in the dark abouteverything in every situation.
833
00:47:09,783 --> 00:47:14,013
I do not get all
of the intelligence
834
00:47:14,135 --> 00:47:21,005
that all of the SSP
alliance members get.
835
00:47:21,142 --> 00:47:24,102
>>DAVID: So in the time
that we have remaining,
836
00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,502
there was obviously some
very unpleasant stuff
837
00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:28,146
that happens to you after this.
838
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,460
So how do we get from youbeing in this room to where
839
00:47:30,586 --> 00:47:31,976
all that starts to take place?
840
00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:36,980
>>GOODE: OK, to abbreviateit, after this point,
841
00:47:37,115 --> 00:47:41,505
we now are allowed to choosea family to go with us.
842
00:47:41,641 --> 00:47:49,691
Gonzales gives the addresson the wall of the family
843
00:47:49,823 --> 00:47:51,693
that he had chosen.
844
00:47:51,825 --> 00:47:56,735
And the intuitive
empaths earlier
845
00:47:56,874 --> 00:47:58,924
had stated somethingdidn't feel right when we
846
00:47:59,050 --> 00:48:01,440
were in the train coming back.
847
00:48:01,574 --> 00:48:07,104
And I felt something wasoff, but I'm not as in tune
848
00:48:07,232 --> 00:48:09,192
as I used to be.
849
00:48:09,321 --> 00:48:18,161
Then once the family had beenescorted onto our vessel,
850
00:48:18,286 --> 00:48:21,156
once we'd seen the family,the intuitive empaths
851
00:48:21,289 --> 00:48:23,069
were whispering to Gonzales.
852
00:48:23,204 --> 00:48:25,554
And he was like, hmm, hmm.
853
00:48:25,685 --> 00:48:29,725
And when we got onto the
vessel, the door closed,
854
00:48:29,863 --> 00:48:33,653
and he said, "You're safe.
855
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:35,000
Everything's going to be OK.
856
00:48:35,129 --> 00:48:36,999
You can tell us.
857
00:48:37,131 --> 00:48:40,051
We know that there's a memberof your family missing."
858
00:48:40,178 --> 00:48:46,838
And it was a husband, a wife,and a son and a daughter.
859
00:48:46,967 --> 00:48:50,797
And the father was like, "Howcould you possibly know that?"
860
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:55,188
And he said, "Thesegentlemen have abilities.
861
00:48:55,323 --> 00:48:59,203
And just tell us
what's going on.
862
00:48:59,327 --> 00:49:01,807
And we'll straighten it out."
863
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:05,509
And then the family clammed up.
864
00:49:05,638 --> 00:49:12,648
And Gonzales got, in hisnormal way, very ticked off.
865
00:49:12,775 --> 00:49:19,165
And him and his two securitypersonnel left the craft.
866
00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:21,354
>>DAVID: So they must
have told the family,
867
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,400
you tell them that this isa wonderful place to live
868
00:49:24,526 --> 00:49:26,526
and everything's happy,or else your kid gets it.
869
00:49:26,659 --> 00:49:28,269
>>GOODE: And that you
want to come back.
870
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,100
Because part of the
deal was we were
871
00:49:31,229 --> 00:49:34,149
able to offer them a place.
872
00:49:34,275 --> 00:49:35,095
>>DAVID: Sanctuary.
873
00:49:35,233 --> 00:49:36,973
>>GOODE: Sanctuary, yeah.
874
00:49:37,104 --> 00:49:40,244
So Gonzales left.
875
00:49:40,368 --> 00:49:47,198
And long story short, nextthing I know the crew comes out
876
00:49:47,332 --> 00:49:51,342
of the crew compartment
at the front saying,
877
00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:55,506
we have securitypersonnel coming in fast,
878
00:49:55,644 --> 00:49:57,734
weapons at the
ready, what do we do?
879
00:49:57,864 --> 00:49:59,344
And they're asking me.
880
00:49:59,474 --> 00:50:01,134
>>DAVID: So you're in
this ship that you're
881
00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:03,129
about to leave with
this family with.
882
00:50:03,261 --> 00:50:05,961
Gonzales is trying to
get their other kid,
883
00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:09,010
and these guys come inrunning with weapons drawn,
884
00:50:09,136 --> 00:50:11,966
and they're basically like
assaulting your craft,
885
00:50:12,096 --> 00:50:13,006
it appears.
886
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:14,620
>>GOODE: They were on their way.
887
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:16,230
They had rounded the way,and they were on their way
888
00:50:16,361 --> 00:50:18,101
up the catwalk.
889
00:50:18,232 --> 00:50:24,242
And I said, "Is
Gonzales with them?"
890
00:50:24,369 --> 00:50:26,679
And they said, "He's
nowhere to be seen."
891
00:50:26,806 --> 00:50:29,496
And I said, "Stand down.
892
00:50:29,635 --> 00:50:31,115
Open the door."
893
00:50:31,245 --> 00:50:36,635
And they immediately startedtaking security steps
894
00:50:36,772 --> 00:50:43,212
to wipe all the information,intelligence information that
895
00:50:43,344 --> 00:50:49,054
would aid the enemy I
guess, out of the craft.
896
00:50:49,176 --> 00:50:51,476
So they did that very quickly.
897
00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:57,623
And the security team came,disarmed our security.
898
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:59,450
>>DAVID: Were they
yelling at you,
899
00:50:59,578 --> 00:51:03,228
and did they put your handsbehind your back and hurt you?
900
00:51:03,364 --> 00:51:08,504
>>GOODE: They escorted usin a very brisk, rough way.
901
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:14,420
But they weren't trying tobreak our arms or anything.
902
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:19,159
They escorted us back
past the security point.
903
00:51:19,293 --> 00:51:24,343
And as we went in,
the ICC representative
904
00:51:24,472 --> 00:51:29,132
that had been with us beforewas in a yelling match
905
00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:32,610
with the facility leader.
906
00:51:32,741 --> 00:51:41,271
And the ICC representativeoutranked this facility leader
907
00:51:41,402 --> 00:51:43,492
by a lot.
908
00:51:43,622 --> 00:51:45,362
But this guy was ticked off.
909
00:51:45,493 --> 00:51:46,713
>>DAVID: The facility leader?
910
00:51:46,842 --> 00:51:50,502
>>GOODE: The facility
leader was upset.
911
00:51:50,629 --> 00:51:54,549
And we were walked to this wall.
912
00:51:54,676 --> 00:51:58,676
And there were now doors wherethere were not doors before.
913
00:51:58,811 --> 00:52:00,901
And they opened the doors.
914
00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:04,560
And there's a
detention facility.
915
00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,336
And we walk in.
916
00:52:06,471 --> 00:52:12,481
And there are all
these people in cells.
917
00:52:12,607 --> 00:52:16,827
And these are cells with--they're almost like cages
918
00:52:16,959 --> 00:52:20,269
that you can put your
hands in like this
919
00:52:20,398 --> 00:52:24,178
with octagonal kind of holes.
920
00:52:24,315 --> 00:52:26,445
And they walk us
all the way back.
921
00:52:26,578 --> 00:52:28,838
All of them have people in them.
922
00:52:28,971 --> 00:52:31,541
And in the very back
is a larger cell
923
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:34,720
with Gonzales and
his two people,
924
00:52:34,847 --> 00:52:38,547
with his two intuitive
empath guards.
925
00:52:38,677 --> 00:52:43,637
And they put the rest
of us in, including
926
00:52:43,769 --> 00:52:45,859
the crew of the craft.
927
00:52:45,988 --> 00:52:52,168
And Gonzales said that thefacility leader was a tyrant
928
00:52:52,299 --> 00:52:54,949
and couldn't handle
being challenged
929
00:52:55,084 --> 00:52:59,314
in front of his own
people, that things
930
00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:03,047
had gotten heated
and out of control,
931
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:05,180
and they were detained.
932
00:53:05,312 --> 00:53:08,102
And he said things
sounded like they were
933
00:53:08,228 --> 00:53:09,448
going to go very, very badly.
934
00:53:11,797 --> 00:53:13,187
>>DAVID: Meaning
you guys were going
935
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,630
to be held for a short
while and murdered?
936
00:53:15,757 --> 00:53:17,457
>>GOODE: It sounded
like things were
937
00:53:17,585 --> 00:53:18,845
going to go in that manner.
938
00:53:18,978 --> 00:53:20,588
>>DAVID: Or tortured
first and then murdered?
939
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,939
>>GOODE: Who knows?
940
00:53:22,068 --> 00:53:24,588
He didn't elaborate.
941
00:53:24,723 --> 00:53:26,943
We were in there
for a short time.
942
00:53:27,073 --> 00:53:29,993
And the next thing weknow, all these blue orbs
943
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:35,299
started appearing in the
cell through the walls.
944
00:53:35,429 --> 00:53:37,389
Gonzales and I were
the only guys who
945
00:53:37,518 --> 00:53:39,998
had traveled in this manner.
946
00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:45,309
The other people, the
security and the crew,
947
00:53:45,439 --> 00:53:47,489
were kind of backing
up a little bit.
948
00:53:47,615 --> 00:53:50,225
They were a little
bit taken off guard.
949
00:53:50,357 --> 00:53:53,487
Gonzales just told
them to indicate
950
00:53:53,621 --> 00:53:58,891
that you're ready to travel,and the spheres one by one just
951
00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:02,058
appeared around us, and wezipped through the walls
952
00:54:02,195 --> 00:54:05,975
and appeared back in thatroom that I mentioned
953
00:54:06,112 --> 00:54:11,162
before with the table
slid against the wall,
954
00:54:11,291 --> 00:54:13,211
the conference room.
955
00:54:13,337 --> 00:54:15,897
And an intrusion alarm wentoff, because we weren't
956
00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:17,775
expected back in that way.
957
00:54:17,906 --> 00:54:20,776
Our craft got left behind.
958
00:54:20,909 --> 00:54:24,439
And Gonzales sent the rest ofthe people to be debriefed,
959
00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:29,475
and told me we lost a
vessel, but at least we
960
00:54:29,614 --> 00:54:31,314
didn't lose any people.
961
00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:33,792
And he didn't know
whether I was going
962
00:54:33,922 --> 00:54:37,062
to go see the Blue Avians afterthis, or if I was going home,
963
00:54:37,186 --> 00:54:39,226
but that he needed to go.
964
00:54:39,363 --> 00:54:44,543
So I took off my boots,
took off the jumpsuit,
965
00:54:44,672 --> 00:54:51,332
and put on my flip-flops,and the blue sphere came.
966
00:54:51,462 --> 00:54:52,942
I indicated I was ready.
967
00:54:53,072 --> 00:54:55,382
And I was brought home.
968
00:54:55,509 --> 00:54:58,079
And that's basically
end of story.
969
00:54:58,207 --> 00:55:03,297
There's a much longer
story on my website.
970
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:06,560
>>DAVID: People online had askedif the family was able to have
971
00:55:06,694 --> 00:55:08,264
been taken with you.
972
00:55:08,392 --> 00:55:10,482
>>GOODE: No, we
have no intelligence
973
00:55:10,611 --> 00:55:15,621
on what happened on that
facility to that family.
974
00:55:15,747 --> 00:55:18,747
I've had zero informationon what occurred.
975
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,360
>>DAVID: Some of the
attacking comments
976
00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:22,881
have been, why do
the Blue Avians not
977
00:55:23,015 --> 00:55:24,185
care about these slaves?
978
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,761
Why are they not
saving these slaves?
979
00:55:26,888 --> 00:55:28,718
Isn't there going to be
something in the future
980
00:55:28,847 --> 00:55:30,497
where they will be free?
981
00:55:30,631 --> 00:55:33,111
>>GOODE: Yeah, this is a partof a much longer conversation.
982
00:55:33,242 --> 00:55:39,952
There is a plan to where whenall these people are freed,
983
00:55:40,075 --> 00:55:41,765
they're going to be
brought to another place
984
00:55:41,903 --> 00:55:44,603
to where they can
be rehabilitated,
985
00:55:44,732 --> 00:55:47,782
and the same thing for a lotof the secret space program
986
00:55:47,909 --> 00:55:49,349
alliance people.
987
00:55:49,476 --> 00:55:50,866
A lot of these people, likeI said, are not angels.
988
00:55:50,999 --> 00:55:52,869
They're very damaged people.
989
00:55:53,001 --> 00:55:56,661
And they're going to bebrought to one of our allies
990
00:55:56,788 --> 00:55:59,138
who are going to rehabilitate
them before they're
991
00:55:59,268 --> 00:56:02,358
returned to society.
992
00:56:02,489 --> 00:56:04,009
>>DAVID: Well,
thank you very much.
993
00:56:04,143 --> 00:56:05,933
You're very brave for
going through this stuff
994
00:56:06,058 --> 00:56:07,148
and not giving up.
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And I thank you for watching.
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This is "Cosmic Disclosure."
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I'm your host, David Wilcock.
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We have much more
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