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it beyond Florida. 17 00:01:06,191 --> 00:01:07,317 They were looking at his properties 18 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:09,194 in New York and elsewhere. 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,489 They were starting to really get into who this guy was, 20 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:15,200 where his investments were, what he was doing. 21 00:01:15,325 --> 00:01:17,119 Who really was Jeffrey Epstein? 22 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:20,330 [gentle music] 23 00:01:20,372 --> 00:01:27,129 ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,592 ‐ Truth is stranger than fiction in this case. 25 00:01:31,675 --> 00:01:34,094 I mean, we're talking about hundreds of girls 26 00:01:34,177 --> 00:01:35,804 being victimized, which was really 27 00:01:35,846 --> 00:01:37,431 just astonishing to me‐‐ 28 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:39,474 that this had gone on for so long 29 00:01:39,558 --> 00:01:42,894 and that there had been so many people involved. 30 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,230 As attorneys who represent the victims, 31 00:01:45,355 --> 00:01:48,483 we were really trying to expose the scheme, 32 00:01:48,567 --> 00:01:52,321 and we were using Virginia's voice to be able to do that. 33 00:01:52,404 --> 00:01:54,448 ♪ ♪ 34 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:57,409 ‐ The recruitment process was never‐ending, 35 00:01:57,534 --> 00:01:59,703 so it wasn't like he was finally set up. 36 00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:01,038 He's got his five girls here, 37 00:02:01,163 --> 00:02:02,831 there, there, and there and there. 38 00:02:02,914 --> 00:02:06,460 And so you were forced to try to bring other girls in. 39 00:02:06,501 --> 00:02:08,086 ♪ ♪ 40 00:02:08,170 --> 00:02:10,922 I call it a pyramid scheme. 41 00:02:11,006 --> 00:02:13,592 "A" would talk to B, B would talk to C 42 00:02:13,675 --> 00:02:15,385 so on and so forth. 43 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:17,471 And these girls, that's how it worked down the line. 44 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:19,222 ♪ ♪ 45 00:02:19,348 --> 00:02:22,893 ‐ Jeffrey had a particularly elaborate seduction system. 46 00:02:23,018 --> 00:02:27,522 He had women around him that he trained 47 00:02:27,648 --> 00:02:30,442 to understand what he was looking for. 48 00:02:30,525 --> 00:02:34,279 They would find young potential victims 49 00:02:34,363 --> 00:02:38,033 who were malleable, who had some level of need 50 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:40,369 or some level of naiveté about them. 51 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:46,291 ♪ ♪ 52 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:48,877 ‐ I grew up in Dayton, Ohio, 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,129 surrounded by cornfields and woods 54 00:02:51,213 --> 00:02:53,757 that I often played in. 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,634 ♪ ♪ 56 00:02:55,717 --> 00:02:59,721 Growing up, I always was into healing, 57 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:02,474 and my dad was a dentist. 58 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:05,352 My mom was a teacher, and I've always had 59 00:03:05,477 --> 00:03:08,855 a mission to help others, 60 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:12,859 and since I was a kid, I've also had this dream 61 00:03:12,984 --> 00:03:15,028 about going to California. 62 00:03:15,112 --> 00:03:17,864 So when I was 22 years old, 63 00:03:17,989 --> 00:03:20,033 I chose a massage therapy school 64 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:22,744 in California and went. 65 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:29,167 ♪ ♪ 66 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:31,211 I was very excited and just ready 67 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:33,380 to take on the world. 68 00:03:33,463 --> 00:03:35,465 ♪ ♪ 69 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:38,176 One day, I was approached by a student 70 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:41,346 further along in the program, and she asked me 71 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:43,932 if I would be interested in learning about 72 00:03:44,015 --> 00:03:45,642 a once‐in‐a‐lifetime opportunity 73 00:03:45,767 --> 00:03:48,061 to be a traveling massage therapist. 74 00:03:48,145 --> 00:03:49,646 ♪ ♪ 75 00:03:49,688 --> 00:03:52,649 I was excited, and I told her yes. 76 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:55,235 The next person that I was in contact with 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,696 was Sarah Kellen. 78 00:03:57,779 --> 00:04:01,241 ♪ ♪ 79 00:04:01,324 --> 00:04:03,744 ‐ Sarah Kellen was one of the main recruiters 80 00:04:03,869 --> 00:04:06,204 for Epstein. 81 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:09,708 Someone who approached girls, rounded up girls, 82 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:11,126 and also did logistics. 83 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:12,461 ‐ The pyramid scheme started 84 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:16,673 with Ghislaine Maxwell and Sarah Kellen. 85 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:18,383 ♪ ♪ 86 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:20,969 Sarah was so successful in bringing girls in. 87 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:22,512 She's telling you, 88 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:24,306 "You're gonna get a really amazing job. 89 00:04:24,389 --> 00:04:25,849 "This is gonna be life‐changing for you. 90 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:27,768 This is gonna be amazing." 91 00:04:27,851 --> 00:04:30,645 ♪ ♪ 92 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:35,150 ‐ Sarah and I met at the Santa Monica Beach. 93 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,944 I felt comfortable with her instantly. 94 00:04:38,028 --> 00:04:41,740 We resembled one another as far as age and hair color 95 00:04:41,865 --> 00:04:44,409 and even just body type. 96 00:04:44,534 --> 00:04:48,205 I kind of felt like, wow, she's kind of just like me. 97 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:49,790 ♪ ♪ 98 00:04:49,873 --> 00:04:52,918 Sarah's telling me about the position. 99 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:56,254 She had been this personal massage therapist 100 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:59,674 traveling the world for the last several years. 101 00:04:59,758 --> 00:05:02,761 She said, "You'll be filling my place." 102 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:05,972 ♪ ♪ 103 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:11,728 She said, "Imagine the most grand, 104 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:16,525 most amazing, incredible life you could want," 105 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:20,320 and she stopped speaking, 106 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:23,573 and I took a couple moments thinking about that 107 00:05:23,698 --> 00:05:25,909 and creating that image in my mind. 108 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:28,495 ♪ ♪ 109 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:31,706 She's like, "Teresa, it is so much more 110 00:05:31,832 --> 00:05:33,959 than you could ever, ever imagine." 111 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:36,962 ♪ ♪ 112 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:41,174 Sarah referred to Ms. Maxwell who would be hiring me 113 00:05:41,299 --> 00:05:43,468 for the position, 114 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:46,304 and the next steps are for me to fly 115 00:05:46,388 --> 00:05:48,932 to New York City to meet Ms. Maxwell. 116 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:50,600 ♪ ♪ 117 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:55,230 I thought that this was the opportunity of a lifetime. 118 00:05:55,355 --> 00:06:00,068 This was going to allow me to see my dreams. 119 00:06:03,738 --> 00:06:10,620 ♪ ♪ 120 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:15,333 I arrive in New York City, and I go meet with Ms. Maxwell 121 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:18,503 to give a massage. 122 00:06:18,587 --> 00:06:20,755 I felt quite comfortable with her. 123 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,591 There was a point where she fell asleep 124 00:06:22,674 --> 00:06:24,467 during the massage, so I felt, like, wow, 125 00:06:24,593 --> 00:06:25,969 this is really going well. 126 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:27,637 ♪ ♪ 127 00:06:27,762 --> 00:06:31,433 After the massage, she told me that I was going to go 128 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:34,394 meet her partner, Jeffrey, 129 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:37,272 to continue with the interview, 130 00:06:37,355 --> 00:06:38,481 and that was the very first time 131 00:06:38,565 --> 00:06:41,234 I had heard his name. 132 00:06:41,359 --> 00:06:42,986 She said to me, 133 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,280 "Make sure you give Jeffrey what he wants. 134 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:47,157 Jeffrey always gets what he wants." 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,534 ♪ ♪ 136 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:52,370 ‐ The entire operation, from start to finish, 137 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:53,997 was very calculated. 138 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,542 Before any individual ever even met Jeffrey Epstein, 139 00:06:57,626 --> 00:07:01,004 she had already met three or four other people 140 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:03,298 who she felt like she trusted. 141 00:07:03,381 --> 00:07:05,050 ‐ They were totally out of their element. 142 00:07:05,175 --> 00:07:07,427 They didn't know what the rules were for this world, 143 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:09,220 so to have someone saying, 144 00:07:09,304 --> 00:07:11,431 "These are the rules," effectively, 145 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,142 "This is normal. This is how things are." 146 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:16,561 That's incredible powerful as a tool of manipulation, 147 00:07:16,645 --> 00:07:19,105 and I think Ghislaine was essential 148 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,149 in fulfilling that role. 149 00:07:21,232 --> 00:07:23,318 ♪ ♪ 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,487 [horn honks] 151 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:29,991 ‐ I went to Jeffrey's townhouse that night 152 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:32,494 and met Jeffrey. 153 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:35,664 You walk in, and it's pretty breathtaking. 154 00:07:35,747 --> 00:07:38,541 ♪ ♪ 155 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:41,503 One of the first things I noticed when I walked in‐‐ 156 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,421 there was a butler standing there. 157 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:47,425 The coat, the tux, a silver tray in his hand. 158 00:07:47,509 --> 00:07:50,136 You don't see that anywhere. You see that in a movie. 159 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:51,972 ♪ ♪ 160 00:07:52,097 --> 00:07:55,308 He said, "Follow me this way," and then I met Jeffrey. 161 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,602 ♪ ♪ 162 00:07:57,686 --> 00:08:01,064 He led me over to a couch, and he sat next to me. 163 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:03,733 ♪ ♪ 164 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:07,153 He was asking me questions about myself and my family. 165 00:08:07,278 --> 00:08:08,738 ♪ ♪ 166 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:10,281 Just in the middle of conversation, 167 00:08:10,365 --> 00:08:12,409 he put his foot on my lap 168 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:14,995 and asked me for a foot massage. 169 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:16,496 ♪ ♪ 170 00:08:16,621 --> 00:08:20,250 And as I'm doing so, he's pushing his foot 171 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:21,918 closer to my body. 172 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:23,628 ♪ ♪ 173 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:27,674 He starts pushing his heel between my legs. 174 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:29,384 ♪ ♪ 175 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:33,179 Then he's pressing the top of his foot‐‐ 176 00:08:33,304 --> 00:08:36,683 like, literally his toes‐‐ like, into my breast. 177 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:40,854 I was so confused. 178 00:08:40,979 --> 00:08:43,106 Like, what is going on right now? 179 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:44,774 ♪ ♪ 180 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:48,361 None of it made sense from the massage school 181 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:50,405 to meeting Sarah to meeting Ghislaine 182 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,532 to now I'm here. 183 00:08:52,657 --> 00:08:55,535 None of it added up. 184 00:08:55,618 --> 00:08:57,370 I stood up to leave the room... 185 00:08:57,495 --> 00:08:59,539 ♪ ♪ 186 00:08:59,622 --> 00:09:02,959 And he's following behind me, and he grabbed me 187 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:06,129 from behind, and I just completely froze. 188 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:08,048 ♪ ♪ 189 00:09:08,131 --> 00:09:11,718 He was just behind me, and he assaulted me 190 00:09:11,843 --> 00:09:13,344 there in that hallway. 191 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:15,930 ♪ ♪ 192 00:09:16,014 --> 00:09:19,309 I don't know how long I was even standing there. 193 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:25,440 ♪ ♪ 194 00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:27,567 I ran straight to the front door, 195 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:31,071 and he's following right behind me, 196 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:35,033 and as I leave, he patted me on my butt, 197 00:09:35,158 --> 00:09:36,409 and he says to me, 198 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:38,328 "Don't do anything I wouldn't do." 199 00:09:38,453 --> 00:09:40,872 ♪ ♪ 200 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:43,875 I felt very, you know, afraid of him. 201 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:49,714 ♪ ♪ 202 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:54,177 I felt an overwhelm of shame and confusion. 203 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:55,804 ♪ ♪ 204 00:09:55,929 --> 00:09:59,474 For some reason, I felt like I should have known, 205 00:09:59,557 --> 00:10:02,435 like, it was too good to be true. 206 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:04,145 I felt so fooled. 207 00:10:04,270 --> 00:10:05,647 ♪ ♪ 208 00:10:05,772 --> 00:10:08,817 ‐ That individual who has been groomed 209 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:12,779 feels that they had agency 210 00:10:12,862 --> 00:10:16,699 and therefore had some responsibility. 211 00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:21,871 They do not understand that by the time of the big reveal, 212 00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:25,041 which is the sexual assault, they were tricked. 213 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:26,793 ♪ ♪ 214 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:29,170 ‐ I was targeted by the student 215 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:30,880 at the massage school. 216 00:10:30,964 --> 00:10:35,802 She spotted me knowing what they wanted. 217 00:10:35,885 --> 00:10:37,262 ♪ ♪ 218 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:39,514 I was a human baton passed along 219 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,182 from one person to the next, 220 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:44,435 and it began with her at the school that day. 221 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:46,396 ♪ ♪ 222 00:10:46,521 --> 00:10:49,232 They knew exactly how to pull you in 223 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:51,151 to trust them. 224 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:53,528 ♪ ♪ 225 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:54,904 It's a game. 226 00:10:55,029 --> 00:10:57,323 It's a sick and twisted game to them, 227 00:10:57,407 --> 00:11:01,119 and they felt like they were the kings and queens 228 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:04,038 of their sick domain. 229 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:10,837 ♪ ♪ 230 00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:20,430 ‐ The recruiting focus was constant. 231 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,599 Any of the individuals that you talk to 232 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:24,684 who were subjected to Ghislaine and Jeffrey 233 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:27,687 will tell you that every day they were asking 234 00:11:27,770 --> 00:11:29,898 these young girls to bring in other girls. 235 00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:31,941 Ghislaine was the master at that. 236 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:33,359 ♪ ♪ 237 00:11:33,484 --> 00:11:35,028 Jeffrey liked diversity. 238 00:11:35,153 --> 00:11:37,488 He didn't want the same person over and over again, 239 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:39,824 and when you do the math, and he's requiring 240 00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:42,160 a different person three times a day, 241 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:44,412 those numbers add up. 242 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:48,249 ‐ He literally ate, slept, thought‐‐ 243 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:51,836 that was all he did was abuse. 244 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:55,089 It was a revolving door of girls coming through. 245 00:11:55,173 --> 00:12:02,055 ♪ ♪ 246 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:23,076 ♪ ♪ 247 00:12:37,215 --> 00:12:44,097 ♪ ♪ 248 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:52,438 [tense music] 249 00:12:52,522 --> 00:12:54,065 ♪ ♪ 250 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:57,777 ‐ I first met Jeffrey January of 2000. 251 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,904 I was working as a model. 252 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:01,781 All my friends were models and actresses. 253 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:03,908 I loved the lifestyle. 254 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:06,577 Going out, art gallery openings, 255 00:13:06,703 --> 00:13:08,538 charity events. 256 00:13:08,663 --> 00:13:11,040 Ghislaine I saw a lot at events. 257 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:13,293 We all kind of knew that she had 258 00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:15,169 a very special relationship with Jeffrey, 259 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:17,505 and I was so fascinated with his whole world 260 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:18,881 that he lived in. 261 00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:21,467 He was mysterious, he was wealthy, 262 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:23,803 and he knew all the right people. 263 00:13:23,928 --> 00:13:25,805 When I would be there, he would always be talking 264 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:28,433 to the richest man in the world. 265 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:30,643 He would tell me, like, little secrets about people. 266 00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:31,811 He always knew the secrets. 267 00:13:31,936 --> 00:13:33,396 That was really important to him. 268 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:37,817 ♪ ♪ 269 00:13:40,695 --> 00:13:42,238 ‐ Jeffrey Epstein became 270 00:13:42,363 --> 00:13:44,490 a spectacularly rich financial advisor. 271 00:13:44,574 --> 00:13:47,952 He said at the time that he only wanted clients 272 00:13:48,036 --> 00:13:51,122 who had assets worth a billion dollars or more. 273 00:13:51,205 --> 00:13:53,124 Through a mutual acquaintance, Epstein meets 274 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:55,084 a genuine billionaire and arguably 275 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:58,296 the most important man in his life. 276 00:13:58,421 --> 00:14:01,090 ‐ At some point in time you met and managed the money 277 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:03,551 for a fella named Leslie Wexner, correct? 278 00:14:05,928 --> 00:14:07,972 ‐ Again, I would like to answer all questions... 279 00:14:08,097 --> 00:14:11,517 ‐ Les Wexner was the owner of the Limited Brand, 280 00:14:11,642 --> 00:14:13,102 which is Victoria's Secret, 281 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:16,981 and a very, very wealthy individual. 282 00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:19,734 ‐ By 1991, Epstein had not only become 283 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:21,903 Wexner's financial advisor. 284 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:24,030 He was his only client. 285 00:14:24,155 --> 00:14:26,991 What was even more bizarre was that Wexner 286 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:29,869 signed over power of attorney to Epstein. 287 00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:31,662 This was essentially allowing Epstein 288 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:34,749 to do absolutely anything in relation 289 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:37,001 to his financial affairs. 290 00:14:37,126 --> 00:14:39,962 ♪ ♪ 291 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:42,131 And if you're thinking this is a weird arrangement, 292 00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:44,467 that's because it's a very weird arrangement. 293 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:46,886 ♪ ♪ 294 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:49,430 ‐ Les Wexner had bought and renovated 295 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:52,016 a house on East 71st Street, 296 00:14:52,141 --> 00:14:53,976 and then the next thing we knew about this house 297 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:57,647 was that Jeffrey Epstein had moved in, 298 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:59,315 and the story going around 299 00:14:59,357 --> 00:15:01,818 was that he had just given it to Jeffrey. 300 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:03,152 ♪ ♪ 301 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:04,821 What is it about the relationship 302 00:15:04,946 --> 00:15:06,656 between Les Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein 303 00:15:06,781 --> 00:15:11,327 that would inspire him to make such an extraordinary gift? 304 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:14,205 ‐ The way Les Wexner looked at Epstein was 305 00:15:14,288 --> 00:15:15,790 with, like, puppy dog eyes. 306 00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:18,918 It was‐‐I think if Epstein could love, 307 00:15:19,001 --> 00:15:22,171 the only person he loved was himself and Les Wexner. 308 00:15:22,296 --> 00:15:24,632 ‐ This relationship is so important 309 00:15:24,715 --> 00:15:28,344 because it allows Epstein to create a fortune for himself 310 00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:30,805 and it also allows him a kind of entry 311 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,057 into the world of modeling. 312 00:15:33,182 --> 00:15:35,309 ‐ Les Wexner and Victoria's Secret 313 00:15:35,393 --> 00:15:38,479 is a huge modeling connection‐‐ 314 00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:40,815 something that I'm sure Jeffrey Epstein identified 315 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,733 from the very beginning. 316 00:15:42,859 --> 00:15:44,944 One model knows a whole bunch of models. 317 00:15:45,027 --> 00:15:48,823 One person gave him access to hundreds of people. 318 00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:51,659 ♪ ♪ 319 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:54,412 ‐ He had you introduce friends 320 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:57,498 and the friends introduce more friends. 321 00:15:57,582 --> 00:16:01,836 Jeffrey would pay you if you introduced him to people. 322 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,504 He would say it was transactional. 323 00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:04,505 That was his thing. 324 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:06,340 ♪ ♪ 325 00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:09,218 He really liked me, but I wasn't his type. 326 00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:13,681 What he liked me for was to meet more women. 327 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,641 He was very specific‐‐ 328 00:16:15,725 --> 00:16:19,812 young, pretty, tall, thin blondes. 329 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:21,314 He liked blondes. 330 00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:23,858 ♪ ♪ 331 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:27,069 ‐ I was a model in New York City, 332 00:16:27,153 --> 00:16:29,238 and it was a job that I didn't think 333 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:32,325 I could ever have, and it was a job that I wanted. 334 00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:33,784 ♪ ♪ 335 00:16:33,868 --> 00:16:36,704 And it's everything you think New York and fashion is. 336 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:38,331 It was very exciting. 337 00:16:38,414 --> 00:16:42,418 ♪ ♪ 338 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,962 ‐ I lived in a model's apartment in Midtown. 339 00:16:45,087 --> 00:16:46,964 I think it was on 42nd street. 340 00:16:47,048 --> 00:16:49,300 And it was a huge apartment. 341 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:50,968 Any given time, there could be three girls 342 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:53,137 or there could be 20 girls. 343 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:54,388 ♪ ♪ 344 00:16:54,472 --> 00:16:56,140 We were all about the same age, 345 00:16:56,182 --> 00:16:57,558 and we were in the city by ourselves, you know, 346 00:16:57,683 --> 00:16:59,727 some of us for the first time. 347 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:03,689 ♪ ♪ 348 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:07,944 ‐ The modeling industry was a clear, easy target 349 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,487 for Jeffrey Epstein. 350 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:11,197 ♪ ♪ 351 00:17:11,322 --> 00:17:14,909 You had young, ambitious, beautiful women 352 00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:17,036 coming to New York from all over the world, 353 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,788 dying to make it. 354 00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:21,207 They want to be the next big model 355 00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:23,084 more than anything they've ever wanted, 356 00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:24,877 and Jeffrey Epstein 357 00:17:25,002 --> 00:17:26,629 promised to make their dreams come true. 358 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,589 ♪ ♪ 359 00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:30,174 ‐ Jeffrey was very powerful. 360 00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:31,759 ♪ ♪ 361 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:33,302 As a model, I was doing really well, 362 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,304 but I wanted to be a Ford model, 363 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,348 so I had told Jeffrey, and he said, 364 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:39,475 "Oh, I know the owner," and he called up, 365 00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:42,728 and, like, within a few days, I went and met with them, 366 00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:45,064 and they said, "Oh, we love Jeffrey," 367 00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:48,609 of course, and they signed me right up. 368 00:17:48,693 --> 00:17:52,280 He would manipulate you in any way that he could 369 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:55,074 for whatever you wanted to get more women. 370 00:17:55,199 --> 00:17:57,660 I'll make this happen for you if you do what I want. 371 00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,495 ♪ ♪ 372 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,080 ‐ He used people for what they were good at, 373 00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:02,707 and that's it. 374 00:18:02,832 --> 00:18:04,500 I'm sure he had the same kind of relationship with men. 375 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,461 He took whatever somebody had to offer 376 00:18:07,545 --> 00:18:09,630 whether it was money, whether it was an idea, 377 00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:11,299 whether it was an opportunity. 378 00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:14,552 Whatever that person had to offer, 379 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:16,262 Jeffrey Epstein took it. 380 00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,347 ♪ ♪ 381 00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:21,809 Jean‐Luc Brunel is a French model scout. 382 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,644 He's someone who rose to the top 383 00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:26,647 of the modeling profession and had a terrible reputation 384 00:18:26,772 --> 00:18:29,525 for harassing and trying to sleep with his models. 385 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:33,487 He met Ghislaine in the '80s, and she introduced him 386 00:18:33,571 --> 00:18:36,198 to Jeffrey Epstein in the '90s. 387 00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:38,868 Brunel was another central figure 388 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,494 in this operation. 389 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,246 ♪ ♪ 390 00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:44,582 ‐ They ultimately decide to go into business 391 00:18:44,707 --> 00:18:46,167 with one another. 392 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:47,460 Jeffrey Epstein is here 393 00:18:47,543 --> 00:18:50,838 with an unlimited amount of money, 394 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:52,298 and Jean‐Luc Brunel is over here 395 00:18:52,381 --> 00:18:55,009 with unlimited access to young women 396 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,969 that are in the modeling industry. 397 00:18:57,053 --> 00:19:00,014 It was really the perfect storm. 398 00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:01,766 ‐ Jean‐Luc Brunel was the owner 399 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:03,351 of the agency I modeled with. 400 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:06,145 I had the impression that he was kind of‐‐ 401 00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:08,314 he could make or break a girl's career. 402 00:19:08,397 --> 00:19:11,817 I was warned by a few models‐‐ stay away from him. 403 00:19:11,942 --> 00:19:15,738 ‐ It's easy to capitalize on the inherent exploitation 404 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:17,865 that comes with being a model. 405 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,701 ♪ ♪ 406 00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:23,954 ‐ It is very common practice, if you're doing a runway show, 407 00:19:24,038 --> 00:19:26,832 to get undressed very quickly in front of other people, 408 00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:29,251 and you're desensitized to it because that's what you do, 409 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:31,420 you know, to get the job done. 410 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,464 ‐ It puts very vulnerable women 411 00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:36,676 that are very young in a position 412 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,135 where they can't say no. 413 00:19:38,219 --> 00:19:42,598 You have no choice but to submit, to say yes, 414 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,975 in order to further your career. 415 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:52,191 ♪ ♪ 416 00:19:57,780 --> 00:19:59,949 ‐ As a kid, what I would daydream about 417 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,076 was being a model. 418 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,494 I remember my room. 419 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:05,996 My walls were covered with ad campaigns 420 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,873 and pictures of models. 421 00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:09,041 It just seemed so glamorous. 422 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:10,751 ♪ ♪ 423 00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:13,337 My parents took photos in the backyard 424 00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:16,298 and sent them to several agencies. 425 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,801 Summer after I signed, I went by myself to New York. 426 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:22,054 ♪ ♪ 427 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:24,223 ‐ I grew up in rural Alaska. 428 00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:26,100 It was a very unusual place to grow up. 429 00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:28,310 There's not many people there. 430 00:20:28,436 --> 00:20:29,770 It's mostly surrounded by nature, 431 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,355 and comforts don't come easy. 432 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,982 Like, running water. 433 00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:34,525 We had an outhouse for a little while. 434 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:35,818 ♪ ♪ 435 00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:39,113 So when I left, I was definitely very naive. 436 00:20:39,196 --> 00:20:40,823 ♪ ♪ 437 00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:43,617 My cousin was living in San Francisco, 438 00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,536 and so I just thought it was an opportunity 439 00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:47,663 to go down there and just dip my toe 440 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,832 into what life was like in the city. 441 00:20:49,874 --> 00:20:52,585 I must have been shy of my 19th birthday. 442 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:54,587 I had lived with her just for a couple months 443 00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:56,464 before I was scouted to be a model 444 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,507 and moved to New York City. 445 00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:01,302 ♪ ♪ 446 00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:04,722 ‐ Jeffrey Epstein particularly targeted models. 447 00:21:04,847 --> 00:21:07,475 If you come to New York City and you want to be a model, 448 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:10,436 being given an opportunity to meet a very powerful, 449 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,272 very wealthy man who has connections‐‐ 450 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:14,982 that's an opportunity that you wanna take. 451 00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:16,734 ♪ ♪ 452 00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:18,402 ‐ I was 19. 453 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:21,864 I was in New York on my own, which was a scary place, 454 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:23,783 but I knew that I could do it. 455 00:21:23,866 --> 00:21:25,159 They had me cut my hair 456 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:26,994 really short like "Rosemary's Baby," 457 00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:28,871 and it looked horrible. 458 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,582 After that, they let me go. 459 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:34,126 I had no money, and so I started working 460 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,545 at The Coffee Shop as a hostess. 461 00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:40,299 The Coffee Shop was kind of a legendary establishment. 462 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:42,718 They hired models and actresses, 463 00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:44,804 and that's when I met the recruiter. 464 00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:46,138 ♪ ♪ 465 00:21:46,222 --> 00:21:48,974 She was a young, beautiful blonde, 466 00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:50,768 and she was like, "Wow, you're really beautiful." 467 00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:52,436 ♪ ♪ 468 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,979 And she said, "I actually wanted to talk to you 469 00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:55,606 about an opportunity." 470 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,317 She told me about this man that she worked for. 471 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,319 She called him her client, 472 00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:03,489 and he likes to receive massages 473 00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:04,990 and he'll pay you several hundred dollars 474 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:07,034 for 30 minutes. 475 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:08,452 She just kept making it seem 476 00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:10,329 like a really great opportunity, 477 00:22:10,454 --> 00:22:11,747 and it just kept sounding better and better. 478 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,499 He has ties to the fashion industry. 479 00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:15,709 He's friends with a bunch of supermodels. 480 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,045 I said, "Well, I don't have any massage experience." 481 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:19,713 And she said, "It doesn't matter. 482 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,799 You know, he just likes young, pretty girls." 483 00:22:21,882 --> 00:22:23,342 ♪ ♪ 484 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:25,469 I was broke, and it sounded like an opportunity 485 00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:27,137 where he could help me if he liked me. 486 00:22:27,263 --> 00:22:28,973 ♪ ♪ 487 00:22:29,098 --> 00:22:32,184 ‐ I had an accident, and I had to get stitches on my chin. 488 00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:34,311 They didn't think I was a viable model, 489 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,647 and so they kicked me out of the modeling apartment. 490 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:39,942 It was kind of, like, in survival mode. 491 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,610 A friend of mine at the time 492 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:43,362 said that she wanted to introduce me 493 00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:45,489 to a friend of hers, that he was helping her 494 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:48,450 pursuing her passion of being an artist. 495 00:22:48,534 --> 00:22:50,870 That happens every single day in New York. 496 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:53,622 It's all about meeting people and hanging out. 497 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:55,666 I really didn't think anything of it. 498 00:22:55,791 --> 00:22:57,293 ♪ ♪ 499 00:22:57,418 --> 00:23:00,296 We took the subway to the Upper East Side. 500 00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,464 I remember my friend saying that this guy 501 00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:05,384 lived in the largest townhouse in New York. 502 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:07,761 ‐ The mansion on East 71st Street 503 00:23:07,845 --> 00:23:09,638 is one of the largest private residence 504 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:11,098 in Manhattan. 505 00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:12,766 ♪ ♪ 506 00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:17,021 Very imperial, very kind of palace‐like inside. 507 00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,647 ‐ It's like a museum, 508 00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:20,524 but it was very dark and very dreary 509 00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:22,818 and just had this, like, really eerie feeling. 510 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,778 I never got a good feeling there at all. 511 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:26,947 ‐ And apparently there was a room by the front door 512 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:28,949 with a surveillance system throughout the whole house 513 00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:31,285 so that things could be monitored and recorded. 514 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,495 ‐ And it was monitoring everything‐‐ 515 00:23:33,621 --> 00:23:36,749 bathrooms, massage rooms, everyone's room. 516 00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:38,959 The entire mansion was being watched. 517 00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:41,295 ‐ This mansion had dozens of rooms. 518 00:23:41,337 --> 00:23:44,048 It was intended to intimidate people. 519 00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:46,800 ‐ "Alice in Wonderland" is, like, how I describe it. 520 00:23:46,884 --> 00:23:49,094 How do I know how to get out of that house? 521 00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:52,097 That house is huge, and it's a maze. 522 00:23:52,181 --> 00:23:54,934 ‐ Beneath the kind of glamour and the wealth, 523 00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:57,603 there was a very dark side to this property. 524 00:23:57,686 --> 00:23:59,647 ‐ Jeffrey was really particular about 525 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:03,108 who he was seen with, but he was not a very social person. 526 00:24:03,192 --> 00:24:06,487 He wasn't out in front of everybody with everything. 527 00:24:06,570 --> 00:24:08,989 He was very private. 528 00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:11,742 Jeffrey always wanted to meet women at his house. 529 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:15,871 They always came to his house, like, behind closed doors. 530 00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:17,957 ♪ ♪ 531 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,294 ‐ The appointment was around 532 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:24,630 11:00 or 12:00 in the afternoon. 533 00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:27,007 ♪ ♪ 534 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,134 A maid answered the door. 535 00:24:29,218 --> 00:24:31,303 She could barely look me in the eye. 536 00:24:31,387 --> 00:24:33,472 She led me to an elevator 537 00:24:33,514 --> 00:24:35,265 where we went to the second floor. 538 00:24:35,349 --> 00:24:38,894 I had never seen anything like that before in my life, 539 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,355 so I just went and sat down and I was super nervous. 540 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,232 Finally, he walks in 541 00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:46,151 with a towel wrapped around his body. 542 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,653 I didn't know where I was. 543 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:49,154 I wasn't really paying attention 544 00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:50,406 walking into the house. 545 00:24:50,531 --> 00:24:51,490 After the maid had shut the door, 546 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,075 I felt trapped. 547 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:54,660 ♪ ♪ 548 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:55,911 ‐ When Jeffrey Epstein entered the room, 549 00:24:56,036 --> 00:24:58,497 she knew she was trapped already. 550 00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:01,792 She was terrified already. 551 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,461 The conversation that he started with her 552 00:25:04,545 --> 00:25:08,632 was to calm her down so he could get what he wanted. 553 00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,217 ♪ ♪ 554 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,343 ‐ He asked me what my name was. 555 00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:13,178 He asked me where I was from. 556 00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:15,139 I told him I was from Texas, and he was kind of tickled 557 00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:17,182 by it, but it seemed like business as usual for him. 558 00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:18,767 ♪ ♪ 559 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:20,519 So he laid facedown on the massage table 560 00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:24,273 where I very awkwardly began to massage him. 561 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:25,816 I didn't know what I was doing, 562 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,818 and I was like, "This guy is gonna hate this." 563 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:29,403 ♪ ♪ 564 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,114 He asked me to take my clothes off. 565 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,116 I was trembling. 566 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:37,119 I was so scared, and I took my clothes off. 567 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,746 ♪ ♪ 568 00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:42,833 He began to touch me... 569 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:44,460 aggressively. 570 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,211 ♪ ♪ 571 00:25:46,336 --> 00:25:50,007 And it quickly turned into an assault. 572 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:53,260 ♪ ♪ 573 00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:55,971 I distinctly remember him smiling 574 00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:58,599 and enjoying the fact that he was doing 575 00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:03,020 this horrible thing to me that obviously terrified me 576 00:26:03,145 --> 00:26:05,814 and was violating me, 577 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:08,150 but he was somehow getting off on that. 578 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:10,277 [sighs] 579 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:11,779 ♪ ♪ 580 00:26:11,862 --> 00:26:14,406 ‐ She knew that she had 581 00:26:14,531 --> 00:26:19,453 to either fight, run, or freeze. 582 00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,830 Those are the three human responses 583 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,832 to that perceived sense of danger. 584 00:26:23,874 --> 00:26:25,876 ♪ ♪ 585 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:27,294 She froze. 586 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:28,962 ♪ ♪ 587 00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:32,674 ‐ Jeffrey came in, and he, like, interviews me. 588 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,968 "What are your interests? Where do you live? 589 00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:37,513 I like to help young people. I'm helping your friend here." 590 00:26:37,638 --> 00:26:39,640 And she's looking at me and looking all coy 591 00:26:39,723 --> 00:26:41,016 'cause she's sitting next to me. 592 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:42,476 ♪ ♪ 593 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,145 My friend initiated the assault, 594 00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:49,316 and that continued with him participating in it as well. 595 00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:50,818 ♪ ♪ 596 00:26:50,943 --> 00:26:53,529 It's like all of reality just kind of fell away. 597 00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:57,366 I just kind of froze, 598 00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,827 and I just complied. 599 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,037 ♪ ♪ 600 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:06,041 ‐ They have to do literally what they have to do 601 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,294 to get out of the moment and keep their life intact 602 00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:12,422 because the fear is at a mortal level, 603 00:27:12,506 --> 00:27:16,552 and the damage of that trauma continues into their lives 604 00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:18,178 from that point forward. 605 00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:19,847 ♪ ♪ 606 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,015 ‐ I had never had a sexual experience before. 607 00:27:22,099 --> 00:27:26,478 I was 19, and that was my introduction 608 00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:29,481 to any intimate experience. 609 00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:30,732 ♪ ♪ 610 00:27:30,858 --> 00:27:33,652 He handed me the money, $200, 611 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:36,155 and that was it. 612 00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:37,573 He left. 613 00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:39,533 The maid came back a couple minutes later, 614 00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,743 and she led me out. 615 00:27:41,869 --> 00:27:43,287 I couldn't figure out what had just hap‐‐ 616 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:45,831 I was so confused. 617 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:48,125 What just happened? 618 00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:50,419 ♪ ♪ 619 00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:52,629 I called my mom just bawling in tears. 620 00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,923 I said, "You have to come get me now. 621 00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:57,467 You have to get me. I can't be here anymore." 622 00:27:57,593 --> 00:28:00,804 And I was home. 623 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:01,972 ♪ ♪ 624 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:03,640 But it didn't feel like home 625 00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,517 because I wasn't the same person anymore. 626 00:28:05,601 --> 00:28:07,728 ♪ ♪ 627 00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:11,815 ‐ When you traditionally think of rape, 628 00:28:11,899 --> 00:28:14,109 you think of someone coming in with, like, you know, 629 00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,653 a ski mask on holding a knife to you, 630 00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,864 tying you up, and raping you. 631 00:28:18,989 --> 00:28:21,033 You don't think of manipulation. 632 00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:22,367 ♪ ♪ 633 00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,953 And I remember my friend clearly saying to me, 634 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,664 "Oh, that was so much fun. We should do that again." 635 00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:29,291 ♪ ♪ 636 00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:31,001 And she went on, and he really liked me‐‐ 637 00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,420 she could tell‐‐ like she was grooming me 638 00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:35,297 to go back. 639 00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:39,343 ♪ ♪ 640 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:43,972 ‐ After a young woman was abused by Jeffrey Epstein, 641 00:28:44,097 --> 00:28:45,807 she would leave the house, and she would be called 642 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,851 by one of Jeffrey's assistants 643 00:28:47,935 --> 00:28:49,519 and asked, "Hey, do you wanna come back again? 644 00:28:49,645 --> 00:28:52,731 Mr. Epstein really liked you. He wants to see you again." 645 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:55,609 And he was able to use this process 646 00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,028 to feel out their comfort level. 647 00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:03,283 ♪ ♪ 648 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:05,744 ‐ Sexual predators cast their net widely. 649 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,913 They have a pattern of behavior, 650 00:29:08,038 --> 00:29:10,666 and a type that they're looking for. 651 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:13,502 Some of them will have enough ego strength 652 00:29:13,627 --> 00:29:18,131 or something in their lives that allows them to escape, 653 00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:21,301 not be swept in, and the ones that do get swept in 654 00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:24,429 are the ones that have psychological, 655 00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:27,766 environmental vulnerabilities. 656 00:29:27,849 --> 00:29:29,309 If you're abused, if you're neglected, 657 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:35,649 and those are the individuals that he exploited. 658 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,402 ♪ ♪ 659 00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:45,492 [gentle music] 660 00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:47,160 ‐ Epstein's property portfolio 661 00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:49,496 wasn't just about showing off his wealth 662 00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:51,707 and being ostentatious. 663 00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:54,793 It allowed him to have private bases in areas 664 00:29:54,918 --> 00:29:57,462 where he could conduct his sex trafficking operation. 665 00:29:57,546 --> 00:30:00,090 So having a place in Florida, 666 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:03,593 New York, Paris, in New Mexico, 667 00:30:03,677 --> 00:30:05,846 gave him another layer of privacy, 668 00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:07,180 another layer of secrecy 669 00:30:07,306 --> 00:30:09,099 so that he could carry on what he's doing. 670 00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:14,187 ♪ ♪ 671 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:19,109 ‐ Jeffrey had bought this ranch in New Mexico... 672 00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,569 ♪ ♪ 673 00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,321 And he'd named El Zorro. 674 00:30:22,446 --> 00:30:26,491 ♪ ♪ 675 00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:30,495 Ghislaine's nickname for him at the time was Silverado. 676 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:33,498 ♪ ♪ 677 00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:37,461 "Silverado, Silverado, urban cowboy, desperado." 678 00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:43,216 ♪ ♪ 679 00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:46,636 ‐ Zorro Ranch is this vast holding‐‐ 680 00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:50,098 10,000 acres in southern Santa Fe County. 681 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:55,145 Part of that 10,000 acres were 1,200 state‐owned land. 682 00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,856 ♪ ♪ 683 00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:01,735 I'm the commissioner of public lands in New Mexico. 684 00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:03,612 So if you look back in the history 685 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,490 of how this land was acquired by Jeffrey Epstein, 686 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:10,535 you'll see these big, political names pop up. 687 00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,247 Jeffrey Epstein was giving contributions 688 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,167 not only to the top decision makers, 689 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:22,589 but at all levels of government even in the sheriff's race. 690 00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:24,966 ♪ ♪ 691 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:27,427 What was striking about going back 692 00:31:27,511 --> 00:31:29,971 through the documents is that even after 693 00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:34,017 Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, these leases were renewed 694 00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:35,519 by previous commissioners. 695 00:31:35,644 --> 00:31:39,398 ♪ ♪ 696 00:31:39,523 --> 00:31:42,567 I'm the first woman that's ever held this position, 697 00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:45,612 and, to me, that's significant because I look 698 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,740 through a different lens than my predecessors did. 699 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,283 To know that people look the other way 700 00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:53,787 and allowed it to continue is devastating to me. 701 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:57,290 ♪ ♪ 702 00:31:57,374 --> 00:32:00,043 Jeffrey Epstein essentially had an island 703 00:32:00,168 --> 00:32:02,462 within the state of New Mexico. 704 00:32:02,504 --> 00:32:05,090 If you talk with some of the folks who did work 705 00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,300 during the construction, they talk about 706 00:32:07,426 --> 00:32:10,095 how secretive everything was, how they had to be escorted 707 00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:11,972 everywhere they went. 708 00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:13,640 There are many stories about that veil of secrecy. 709 00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:15,809 ♪ ♪ 710 00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,436 ‐ Somebody like Jeffrey Epstein‐‐ 711 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,314 the whole process was designed to evade detection. 712 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,483 ♪ ♪ 713 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:27,070 Every single successful sexual predator 714 00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,073 is successful because the way 715 00:32:30,157 --> 00:32:32,284 that they manipulate, 716 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,661 the way that they pull the strings. 717 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:36,955 ♪ ♪ 718 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,124 ‐ Jeffrey always wanted to meet more women. 719 00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:40,542 It was always about meeting more women. 720 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,419 Some of them were on the level that I was on. 721 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:44,212 Some of them were on the massage level, 722 00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:45,964 and I think he was testing some of them 723 00:32:46,006 --> 00:32:49,426 for the deeper level that we've now come to know. 724 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:52,304 ♪ ♪ 725 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:56,808 ‐ I was born in Santa Fe, New Mexico. 726 00:32:56,892 --> 00:32:58,435 ♪ ♪ 727 00:32:58,518 --> 00:33:01,646 My parents were divorced when I was four years old. 728 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,398 ♪ ♪ 729 00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:07,819 It was a tumultuous childhood, and I was rebellious, 730 00:33:07,861 --> 00:33:09,279 acting out. 731 00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:11,531 Lost my virginity when I was young. 732 00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,367 I started running away when I was 13 years old 733 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:18,705 probably seeking some attention. 734 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:23,418 As an adult, didn't really know what I wanted. 735 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,504 ♪ ♪ 736 00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:27,672 And I went to massage school. 737 00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:31,218 ♪ ♪ 738 00:33:31,343 --> 00:33:35,180 ‐ He targeted industries in which he could use 739 00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:38,975 the nature of the job to get what he wanted. 740 00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:41,019 ♪ ♪ 741 00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,189 ‐ He knew that to manipulate the situation 742 00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:46,983 into a sexual relationship 743 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:48,985 that he didn't have to start from square one. 744 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,863 He could start with a massage with touching. 745 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,532 ♪ ♪ 746 00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,992 You're recruited by somebody who's a real masseuse, 747 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:59,079 and it looks like there's a massage table, 748 00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:01,873 and it slowly evolves. 749 00:34:01,998 --> 00:34:04,501 ♪ ♪ 750 00:34:04,626 --> 00:34:07,045 ‐ Massage school, it was a really great 751 00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:08,296 turning point in my life. 752 00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:10,298 I did a lot of growing up. 753 00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,467 I wasn't running away and on the streets 754 00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,844 and trying to survive. 755 00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:17,847 As a massage therapist, it put me 756 00:34:17,973 --> 00:34:21,309 in a very positive place in my life. 757 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:25,522 During massage school, I met a massage therapist. 758 00:34:25,647 --> 00:34:28,483 She had a practice, and she was contracting 759 00:34:28,525 --> 00:34:32,153 other therapists to do the work for her. 760 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:35,448 She has a clientele that was a little more discerning 761 00:34:35,532 --> 00:34:37,993 and that she thought that I was a good fit for it. 762 00:34:38,118 --> 00:34:39,494 ♪ ♪ 763 00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:42,497 So she contracted me to go to Zorro Ranch. 764 00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:47,502 ♪ ♪ 765 00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:50,964 When I first went out there, I massaged Ghislaine. 766 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,800 She made sure that I knew her name 767 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:55,760 and how to pronounce it correctly. 768 00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:57,012 ♪ ♪ 769 00:34:57,137 --> 00:34:59,472 She had this teacup Yorkie. 770 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:02,642 She says, "This is Max, short for Maxwell." 771 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:03,977 And she picks him up 772 00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:06,980 and smothers his face with kisses. 773 00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:09,608 Ghislaine was very intimidating to me 774 00:35:09,691 --> 00:35:12,360 'cause I knew we'd come from complete different worlds. 775 00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:13,987 ♪ ♪ 776 00:35:14,029 --> 00:35:17,324 She disrobed and plopped on my table. 777 00:35:17,407 --> 00:35:18,575 ♪ ♪ 778 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,119 I was trying to cover her with the towel, you know, 779 00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,830 and do all the proper draping techniques. 780 00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:26,291 She had no modesty, 781 00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:29,294 but she liked my massage. 782 00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:30,170 ♪ ♪ 783 00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,672 She wanted me to come back. 784 00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,424 Then I massaged Jeffrey. 785 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:38,053 ♪ ♪ 786 00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:43,266 Zorro Ranch, it's about a 40 minute drive 787 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:46,061 from Santa Fe, and it's a beautiful drive. 788 00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:47,604 I was really excited. 789 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:48,980 ♪ ♪ 790 00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:51,483 It's very private, very secluded. 791 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,234 ♪ ♪ 792 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,862 And then you drive a quarter of a mile. 793 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,990 You can see stables. 794 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:01,534 Then you drive two or three miles 795 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,161 to the main house. 796 00:36:03,244 --> 00:36:05,455 It was enormous. 797 00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:07,749 ♪ ♪ 798 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:11,211 The massage room was in a downstairs area 799 00:36:11,336 --> 00:36:13,338 with a gym and then a massage table 800 00:36:13,463 --> 00:36:16,132 off to the side, and then double doors 801 00:36:16,216 --> 00:36:17,967 that opened into a indoor pool. 802 00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:19,386 ♪ ♪ 803 00:36:19,511 --> 00:36:23,556 Very luxurious. That impressed me. 804 00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:25,975 These people were big, big‐time. 805 00:36:26,101 --> 00:36:27,560 ♪ ♪ 806 00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,479 And then he came in. 807 00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:32,190 ♪ ♪ 808 00:36:32,273 --> 00:36:34,901 He was very intimidating to me, 809 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:38,321 but, you know, I tried to be as professional as I could. 810 00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:40,365 I asked him if he had any outstanding areas 811 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,659 that he wanted me to work on and he said, 812 00:36:42,742 --> 00:36:44,494 "We'll massage my feet," 813 00:36:44,619 --> 00:36:46,121 and then he just started asking me, 814 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,165 "Oh, can you do my psoas muscle?" 815 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,000 Which is more closer to the groin. 816 00:36:51,126 --> 00:36:52,502 ♪ ♪ 817 00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:54,629 Before I really even had a chance 818 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,297 to, like, think about it, 819 00:36:56,381 --> 00:36:59,634 he proceeded to... 820 00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:01,636 ♪ ♪ 821 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:04,305 Pleasure himself... 822 00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:07,642 and before I knew it, he had already released himself. 823 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:14,566 ♪ ♪ 824 00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:18,945 I felt like he just disrespected my art. 825 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,113 ♪ ♪ 826 00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,322 [sighs] 827 00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:23,825 I was just kind of like, "Ugh, God." 828 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,034 I was just like... 829 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,287 ♪ ♪ 830 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,497 "He's just a rich, eccentric weirdo 831 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,125 and wants to do whatever he wants to do." 832 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:36,880 ♪ ♪ 833 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:39,299 And... 834 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,342 yeah, there was‐‐ he wiped himself off, 835 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,011 and he said, "Okay, see you next time." 836 00:37:43,136 --> 00:37:49,601 ♪ ♪ 837 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:56,983 ‐ There was some events that happened 838 00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:58,610 when I was, like, six years old‐‐ 839 00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:02,197 childhood sexual abuse at the hands 840 00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:04,866 of a teenage boy, 18 years old. 841 00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:06,326 ♪ ♪ 842 00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:08,286 I did not speak out. 843 00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:10,955 I didn't have the vocabulary for that... 844 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:12,540 ♪ ♪ 845 00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:16,044 But it happened again, and then the second time 846 00:38:16,169 --> 00:38:17,670 it happened, it hit me harder. 847 00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:20,006 It was like, "I'm not making this up. 848 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,258 I promise, this happened to me." 849 00:38:22,342 --> 00:38:24,093 I was like, "Who's here to protect me?" 850 00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:26,304 ♪ ♪ 851 00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,348 So it just was never dealt with, you know? 852 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:31,976 It was just secret upon secret upon secret. 853 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,604 ♪ ♪ 854 00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:38,107 ‐ A person who comes from a place where you were abused 855 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,318 by your uncle, by your stepfather, 856 00:38:40,443 --> 00:38:41,778 by your mother's boyfriend, 857 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:43,404 then that's your view of the world‐‐ 858 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,491 that you are essentially 859 00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:49,244 a body that an adult male 860 00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:51,746 can use for his own pleasure. 861 00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:54,499 They were called over for a massage. 862 00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:58,086 It became a sexual assault. You know, what else is new? 863 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,004 ♪ ♪ 864 00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:04,175 ‐ The next time that I massaged Jeffrey, 865 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,970 it got a little more intense. 866 00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:08,471 ♪ ♪ 867 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:10,682 He started asking me to take my shirt off. 868 00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:11,933 ♪ ♪ 869 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,144 You know, he wanted me to rub oil on myself. 870 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:16,271 ♪ ♪ 871 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,981 And I really didn't want to. 872 00:39:18,106 --> 00:39:21,860 ♪ ♪ 873 00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:23,278 I felt pressured. 874 00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:25,738 I felt, "Oh, if I don't do it, 875 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,782 then he's not gonna want me back." 876 00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,158 ♪ ♪ 877 00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:31,870 I just allowed it to happen. 878 00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:36,875 ♪ ♪ 879 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,128 I felt shame, so much shame about it, 880 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,839 but there was that switch that I was able 881 00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,549 to turn on and off. 882 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:47,135 I think that was engrained in me. 883 00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:52,724 ♪ ♪ 884 00:39:54,434 --> 00:39:56,144 ‐ There are many different reasons 885 00:39:56,269 --> 00:39:58,938 why people go back. 886 00:40:00,565 --> 00:40:02,734 The one thing that they all have in common 887 00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:06,696 is a really broken ego structure. 888 00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:12,577 They don't have the ability to read themselves 889 00:40:12,702 --> 00:40:14,329 or the situation correctly 890 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:15,830 because they've never been taught. 891 00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:19,083 ♪ ♪ 892 00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:20,501 ‐ It was almost like I was, 893 00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:22,629 like, that 6‐year‐old girl again. 894 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:25,131 ♪ ♪ 895 00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:26,466 Nobody believed me then, 896 00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:28,635 but are they gonna believe me now? 897 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,766 ♪ ♪ 898 00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:38,645 So I kept it a secret. 899 00:40:38,686 --> 00:40:41,689 ♪ ♪ 900 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:46,235 It's like a weight that you wear your whole life 901 00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:51,115 that allows you to be subjected 902 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,826 to more abuse. 903 00:40:53,952 --> 00:41:00,833 ♪ ♪ 904 00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:08,466 I blamed myself for making the wrong choices, 905 00:41:08,508 --> 00:41:12,387 but it's easy to be lured 906 00:41:12,512 --> 00:41:15,974 by money, promises, 907 00:41:16,057 --> 00:41:19,352 and to have your sense of what's right and wrong 908 00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:22,939 dulled when you've got all these sparkly things 909 00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,691 in front of you. 910 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:25,650 ♪ ♪ 911 00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:29,487 It's easy to be manipulated 912 00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:34,701 by a very powerful man. 913 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,453 ♪ ♪ 914 00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:40,206 ‐ A number of the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein 915 00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:42,709 had endured some type of sexual trauma 916 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,503 as children prior to ever having met him, 917 00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:47,922 and that's a particular vulnerability 918 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,925 that can be detected by somebody 919 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:53,011 who's as masterful of a manipulator 920 00:41:53,136 --> 00:41:54,679 as Jeffrey Epstein. 921 00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:56,639 ♪ ♪ 922 00:41:56,764 --> 00:41:58,474 Jeffrey wasn't my first trafficker. 923 00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:00,476 He wasn't my first abuser. 924 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,853 ♪ ♪ 925 00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:03,938 My childhood was stolen from me. 926 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,899 ♪ ♪ 927 00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:09,694 ‐ Beginning three days after my eighth birthday, 928 00:42:09,819 --> 00:42:13,740 I was first sexually assaulted, 929 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:17,493 and that happened repeatedly for a long time. 930 00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:19,037 ♪ ♪ 931 00:42:19,162 --> 00:42:23,041 I learned back then that you just kind of 932 00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:24,417 suffer through it. 933 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,461 You suffer in silence. 934 00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:28,838 ♪ ♪ 935 00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:31,632 Growing up with that experience, 936 00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:34,719 it definitely set me up for being there 937 00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:36,345 in Jeffrey's office 938 00:42:36,471 --> 00:42:38,181 pretending like it's not happening. 939 00:42:38,306 --> 00:42:40,475 ♪ ♪ 940 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,811 I got to a point in life where I felt like... 941 00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:44,729 ♪ ♪ 942 00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:46,481 This is what happens to you. 943 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,357 ♪ ♪ 944 00:42:48,483 --> 00:42:50,902 This is what you're here for. 945 00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:52,904 ♪ ♪ 946 00:42:53,029 --> 00:42:56,824 Like, I'm that object to be used. 947 00:42:56,908 --> 00:43:03,790 ♪ ♪ 948 00:43:11,005 --> 00:43:15,093 ‐ I came from a very unprivileged life. 949 00:43:15,176 --> 00:43:16,636 ♪ ♪ 950 00:43:16,761 --> 00:43:19,555 Even when we were in a home, 951 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,349 men in and out of the house... 952 00:43:21,474 --> 00:43:23,309 ♪ ♪ 953 00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:26,521 You know, various levels of abuse‐‐ 954 00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:28,981 physically, sexually. 955 00:43:29,065 --> 00:43:30,566 ♪ ♪ 956 00:43:30,691 --> 00:43:33,903 I was in survival mode from a very young age. 957 00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:36,823 I just wanted to be away from it all. 958 00:43:36,948 --> 00:43:38,658 ♪ ♪ 959 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,830 ♪ ♪ 960 00:43:43,913 --> 00:43:46,833 I moved in with my cousin in Hollywood. 961 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:50,336 The transition to L. A. was complete life switch. 962 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:52,880 ♪ ♪ 963 00:43:53,005 --> 00:43:55,716 I was surrounded by celebrities, 964 00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:57,969 models, and directors. 965 00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:00,012 One of the parties I was at one night, 966 00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:03,224 this man, Gypsy, comes walking up to me. 967 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:06,811 He told me that he was this massage guru to the stars. 968 00:44:06,936 --> 00:44:09,772 He's drawn to my energy, but I was holding back. 969 00:44:09,856 --> 00:44:11,357 You know, I had blocks. 970 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:14,485 Gypsy felt like someone who was gonna help heal me. 971 00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:16,612 And I really needed it. 972 00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:18,072 ♪ ♪ 973 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:19,657 Through that, it became a conversation 974 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,159 of, well, why don't you learn the trade? 975 00:44:21,284 --> 00:44:22,660 ♪ ♪ 976 00:44:22,785 --> 00:44:24,579 And so, one day, Gypsy had said 977 00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:26,747 that he had this regular client, 978 00:44:26,873 --> 00:44:29,000 a socialite from New York 979 00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:30,793 and that he wanted me to meet her 980 00:44:30,918 --> 00:44:33,796 and come along for the appointment. 981 00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:36,132 We met her one day at the Four Seasons Hotel 982 00:44:36,257 --> 00:44:37,133 in Beverly Hills. 983 00:44:37,258 --> 00:44:38,968 ♪ ♪ 984 00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:41,012 Ghislaine was very charming. 985 00:44:41,137 --> 00:44:42,722 She was talking to me so much, 986 00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:45,391 asked me a gazillion questions about myself. 987 00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:47,143 ♪ ♪ 988 00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:49,645 ‐ Sexual predators bring women into their life, 989 00:44:49,729 --> 00:44:52,148 and they make them feel cared about 990 00:44:52,273 --> 00:44:55,818 or beautiful or accomplished or interesting. 991 00:44:55,902 --> 00:45:01,115 That positive regard is the most intoxicating thing. 992 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,911 ♪ ♪ 993 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:08,748 ‐ She called Gypsy to ask if I would want to be hired 994 00:45:08,873 --> 00:45:11,000 as a masseuse at her Palm Beach residence 995 00:45:11,083 --> 00:45:12,293 for the weekend. 996 00:45:12,418 --> 00:45:14,045 I wasn't even certified yet. 997 00:45:15,838 --> 00:45:19,217 Gypsy was just very adamant that I should go. 998 00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:22,094 He ended up convincing me that it would be okay. 999 00:45:22,178 --> 00:45:25,139 ♪ ♪ 1000 00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:30,645 ‐ I met Ghislaine 1001 00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:32,521 at a little private airport in Santa Monica. 1002 00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:34,482 Got in a jet and flew to Palm Beach. 1003 00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:37,652 ♪ ♪ 1004 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:39,737 Because I was kind of submerged 1005 00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:42,240 in the Hollywood scene already, 1006 00:45:42,365 --> 00:45:45,201 it wasn't that abnormal for people with money 1007 00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:48,162 to do outlandish things like that‐‐ 1008 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:50,373 to hire someone and fly them somewhere. 1009 00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:53,960 None of it seemed out of the ordinary at first. 1010 00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:56,337 I felt like they thought that I was something special. 1011 00:45:56,462 --> 00:45:58,464 ♪ ♪ 1012 00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,050 We drive to their mansion. 1013 00:46:01,175 --> 00:46:02,677 On the way there, she points out 1014 00:46:02,802 --> 00:46:03,970 that Donald Trump's a neighbor. 1015 00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:05,304 ♪ ♪ 1016 00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:07,223 She says, "With my partner Jeffrey, 1017 00:46:07,348 --> 00:46:09,475 just do whatever he wants, and you'll be fine." 1018 00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:11,143 ♪ ♪ 1019 00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:13,312 One of their assistants met me at the door... 1020 00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:15,940 ♪ ♪ 1021 00:46:16,023 --> 00:46:18,276 And she led me down the hallway 1022 00:46:18,359 --> 00:46:21,028 to this giant bathroom 1023 00:46:21,153 --> 00:46:23,155 where a massage table was laid out. 1024 00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:25,574 ♪ ♪ 1025 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,159 I got it all set up, 1026 00:46:27,243 --> 00:46:29,370 and as soon as I had the sheets on the table, 1027 00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:31,080 ♪ ♪ 1028 00:46:31,163 --> 00:46:33,332 This man comes waltzing into the room 1029 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:37,962 and drops his robe and says, "Hi, I'm Jeffrey," and... 1030 00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:38,838 ♪ ♪ 1031 00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:40,464 ...gets on the table. 1032 00:46:40,548 --> 00:46:42,717 ♪ ♪ 1033 00:46:42,842 --> 00:46:45,428 And sort of, like, halfway through the massage, 1034 00:46:45,511 --> 00:46:49,473 he flipped over onto his back and asked if I minded 1035 00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:50,516 if he touched himself. 1036 00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:53,019 ♪ ♪ 1037 00:46:56,272 --> 00:46:59,275 You know, because I had come from a background of abuse, 1038 00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:01,902 when he asked me if he could touch himself, 1039 00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,323 you know, I basically just said sure, 1040 00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:08,868 because I didn't know what else to say or do. 1041 00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:11,454 I didn't know how to say no. 1042 00:47:11,537 --> 00:47:14,123 I didn't know how to say that I'm not okay with that. 1043 00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:18,252 ♪ ♪ 1044 00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:19,879 ‐ Your brain is trying to say, 1045 00:47:20,004 --> 00:47:21,172 "I don't understand what happened." 1046 00:47:21,297 --> 00:47:22,214 ♪ ♪ 1047 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:23,966 You find yourself in circumstances 1048 00:47:24,008 --> 00:47:25,634 over and over again where the same dynamics are there, 1049 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,303 the same circumstances there. 1050 00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,138 ♪ ♪ 1051 00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,182 Reenactment is an attempt to understand 1052 00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:32,641 the sexual abuse, 1053 00:47:32,725 --> 00:47:34,477 and the reenactments tend to be 1054 00:47:34,602 --> 00:47:37,104 specific reproductions of that earlier event 1055 00:47:37,188 --> 00:47:39,106 that the mind is trying to comprehend. 1056 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:43,402 ♪ ♪ 1057 00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:47,698 ‐ Jeffrey told me to come over here, 1058 00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:49,367 and he pushed me down, 1059 00:47:49,492 --> 00:47:53,120 forced oral sex on me right there, and, um... 1060 00:47:53,204 --> 00:47:54,497 ♪ ♪ 1061 00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:58,084 Part of the sexual abuse that I experienced as a kid, 1062 00:47:58,167 --> 00:48:01,087 a man I knew used to force oral sex on me 1063 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:03,339 kind of in the same demeanor. 1064 00:48:03,422 --> 00:48:05,800 ♪ ♪ 1065 00:48:05,925 --> 00:48:07,510 I would pretend like I was asleep 1066 00:48:07,635 --> 00:48:09,845 to make it go away in my head, 1067 00:48:09,970 --> 00:48:12,515 and, you know, even in that moment, 1068 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,101 I remember the same thing. 1069 00:48:15,184 --> 00:48:19,438 Like, just almost pretending like I wasn't there 1070 00:48:19,522 --> 00:48:23,526 ♪ ♪ 1071 00:48:23,651 --> 00:48:26,987 I was in this state of wanting to befriend the bad guy 1072 00:48:27,071 --> 00:48:29,532 because that's what I always did with him. 1073 00:48:29,657 --> 00:48:32,451 If I was on his good side, he wouldn't hurt me. 1074 00:48:32,535 --> 00:48:36,288 ♪ ♪ 1075 00:48:36,372 --> 00:48:38,499 ‐ It's almost like something takes over you 1076 00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:41,085 inside your body‐‐ not knowing what to do 1077 00:48:41,168 --> 00:48:42,795 and just following through the motions. 1078 00:48:42,837 --> 00:48:44,046 ♪ ♪ 1079 00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,715 There was no love or compassion or empathy 1080 00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:48,175 in that man's heart whatsoever. 1081 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:53,222 ♪ ♪ 1082 00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:56,308 ‐ My mind was just going crazy with what just happened. 1083 00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:57,810 ♪ ♪ 1084 00:48:57,935 --> 00:48:59,812 There were so many questions I had in my head, 1085 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:03,232 but I certainly wasn't gonna go, you know, 1086 00:49:03,357 --> 00:49:04,859 tell Ghislaine or the assistant. 1087 00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:06,444 ♪ ♪ 1088 00:49:06,527 --> 00:49:08,571 I had that mentality of, like, you know, 1089 00:49:08,696 --> 00:49:10,406 if you don't talk about it, it didn't happen. 1090 00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:11,657 ♪ ♪ 1091 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:13,367 And after that encounter, 1092 00:49:13,492 --> 00:49:15,995 Ghislaine actually flew back to L. A. 1093 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,582 and proceeded to book appointments with me. 1094 00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:21,083 I had no reason to think 1095 00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:23,461 that she had anything to do with anything. 1096 00:49:23,544 --> 00:49:26,964 I already had this feeling of not wanting to disappoint her 1097 00:49:27,089 --> 00:49:28,966 for whatever reason. 1098 00:49:29,049 --> 00:49:31,343 She invited me back out to Palm Beach again. 1099 00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:33,304 ♪ ♪ 1100 00:49:33,429 --> 00:49:35,139 I thought we were staying there the weekend 1101 00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:37,433 like I had the first time, but they told me 1102 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:40,019 that we were actually flying to his island 1103 00:49:40,144 --> 00:49:43,689 in the Caribbean and taking his big plane. 1104 00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:46,192 ♪ ♪ 1105 00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:48,152 That was certainly shocking. 1106 00:49:48,277 --> 00:49:49,945 Like, I had never seen an airplane like that before. 1107 00:49:50,029 --> 00:49:51,489 I mean, it was like Air Force One. 1108 00:49:51,614 --> 00:49:53,741 ♪ ♪ 1109 00:49:53,866 --> 00:49:58,496 Bedroom, kitchen, screen room, living, sitting area, 1110 00:49:58,579 --> 00:50:02,291 and I was like, "Okay, wow, this is a plane. 1111 00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:04,251 ♪ ♪ 1112 00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:07,296 ‐ They got distracted by the persona 1113 00:50:07,379 --> 00:50:10,716 of wealth and privilege and luxuries and niceties 1114 00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:12,384 and look where you are 1115 00:50:12,510 --> 00:50:14,470 and look who you're hobnobbing with. 1116 00:50:14,553 --> 00:50:16,347 ♪ ♪ 1117 00:50:16,472 --> 00:50:18,098 And that inner voice has to get loud enough 1118 00:50:18,182 --> 00:50:19,767 for that to be uncomfortable enough 1119 00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:21,352 for them to say, "Wait a minute. 1120 00:50:21,477 --> 00:50:23,354 "I don't think this is right. 1121 00:50:23,437 --> 00:50:25,314 "I gotta get the hell out of here. 1122 00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:26,357 ♪ ♪ 1123 00:50:26,482 --> 00:50:27,816 I can't." 1124 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:30,444 ‐ I definitely had to do some self talk‐‐ 1125 00:50:30,528 --> 00:50:33,822 that, "What if he tries to hurt me?" 1126 00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:36,242 I thought, "Well, this time I'll be better prepared, 1127 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,202 and I'll be able to say no." 1128 00:50:38,327 --> 00:50:40,412 Or even, you know, I had this blind hope 1129 00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:42,498 that maybe he just wouldn't do it again. 1130 00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:44,458 ♪ ♪ 89059

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