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This programme contains scenes
which some viewers may find
upsetting and some strong language.
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Now, what are your preferences
with regards to vaping or not?
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Do you... Whatever you want to do,
yeah. Yeah?
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Whatever makes you feel more
relaxed. Thank you.
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TRANSLATION:
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GEORGE W BUSH: Removing Saddam
Hussein from power was the
right decision,
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and rescued millions
from unspeakable horrors.
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TONY BLAIR: This isn't about a lie
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or a conspiracy or a deceit
or a deception.
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It's a decision.
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And I do genuinely believe that the
world is safer as a result.
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The politicians have had their say.
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In this series, the story of the
Iraq War is told
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by the civilians, journalists,
and soldiers who lived through
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the 2003 invasion, and the years
of chaos that continue to this day.
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Anybody can invade a country.
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Anybody can go to war.
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It's what happens if you win.
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Through their eyes,
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we'll see how events in Iraq have
changed the world.
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Hi, I'm Lieutenant Colonel Nate
Sassaman and the battalion commander
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for First Battalion Eighth
Infantry Regiment...
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We sowed the seeds of Isis in 2003.
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We did.
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HE EXHALES
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The only choice you have is either
to be a victim,
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or to be the killer.
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Are we starting? Yeah, we can start.
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I'm interested at where you would
begin in a series like this.
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Oh, man. Um...
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Well, Iraq should not be
connected to 9/11
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but unfortunately it is, you know?
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Go! Go back!
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That was the kick-off.
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Iraq continues to flaunt its
hostility toward America
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and to support terror.
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States like these and their
terrorist allies constitute
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an axis of evil.
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That's when we knew, "Shit.
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"We are getting blamed for this."
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There was a sense of relief.
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NEWS FOOTAGE: Allied troops have
begun moving into position near the
Iraqi border...
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The war plans are finalised,
the training is over,
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the combat units are at battle
positions...
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It seems increasingly likely that
military action
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against Iraq could be imminent.
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At the start of 2003,
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over 300,000 coalition troops
from mostly America and Britain
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had been deployed in preparation
for the invasion of Iraq.
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And the whole country knew
war was coming.
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OK, New York,
we're starting the show.
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Five, four, three, two, one...
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Hi, and welcome.
I'm Vanessa Ray and today,
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we're participating in a historic
discussion between the young people
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of two countries on the
brink of war.
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Let's everyone in New York say hi to
everyone over in Baghdad.
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Hi!
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And if you guys could say hi back to
us just so we know that you saw us.
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ALL: Hi! Hi, people of America!
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It's...
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It's very weird looking at yourself,
you know?
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As a young man, I think I was 18
years old at that time. Oh, it's...
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I mean, am I wrong or did
I sound like Borat?!
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You know, it's like I don't know...
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IMITATING BORAT:
"Hello, people of America!"
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HE LAUGHS
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I'm generally interested
in computers
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and I like internet, I like e-mail
and all this stuff.
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Let's live a happy life,
and let's rock and roll.
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You know, I love rock a lot.
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Listen for some Metallica,
it will help you.
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Let's take a little bit more of an
in-depth look with this first video
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from Waleed who, as we all know
by now, is a rocker.
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Let's check it out.
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ROCK MUSIC
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So, I formed this little group.
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And we were the only
heavy-metal band in Iraq.
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CROWD CHANTING: Hey, hey, hey!
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I was infatuated with the West.
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I wanted everything
that was Western.
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It was like...
I wanted the blue jeans,
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I wanted the skateboards,
I wanted the headphones,
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I wanted all of these things
that I grew up watching.
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And that's how I learned English
was from movies and songs.
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It's a cool place.
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But it's a fake McDonald.
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We thought it's real McDonald,
and the first moment that we saw it,
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"Oh! We have McDonald's here in
Iraq!"
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But this is not McDonald's.
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There are two girls, very beautiful
girls here, are sitting there.
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You know, I hadn't met that many
Americans at that time.
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But there are so many things
about America
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that we appreciated, we like,
we want.
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So, when I hear, you know,
statements like,
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"They hate our freedom
and our democracy," it's like,
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"No, we actually love it!
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"We freaking love it!
That's all we wanted."
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MUSIC: Everybody
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by Backstreet Boys
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Despite 24 years
of Saddam's brutal regime,
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Baghdad was considered to be
one of the most liberal
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and cosmopolitan cities
in the Middle East.
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I want to ask about Backstreet Boys.
What do you know about them?
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What are their latest?
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I got to be honest, I think the
Backstreet Boys
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have some really, really
catchy tunes.
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So, I'm definitely down with
the Backstreet Boys.
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They are sucks, you know?
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I always want to be
one of the Backstreet Boys,
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when I was a teenager.
I even know the dances like...
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I had the same clothes - the
white pants, and the open shirts.
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# Backstreet's back, all right! #
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And I go to high school with
these things.
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"Sup, my name is Kevin," not Ahmed.
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No!
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Ahmed Albasheer is now
a famous comedian.
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He presents a satirical show
that's watched by 19 million Iraqis
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and regularly pokes fun
at the leaders of Isis.
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SINGING:
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But as a teenager,
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he had to hide his interest
in the West from his family.
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I have a tape player and I play
it, like, at a very low level.
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So, sometimes I would put it up
to my ear so I can hear the music.
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And later on, I bring my tapes
in the car when I drive the car.
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MUSIC: Candy Shop
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by 50 Cent
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My father was very religious.
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I remove the Koran tape.
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I put my music in.
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# I'll take you to the
candy shop... #
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I go crazy. The music is very high.
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# I'll have you spending
all you got
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# Keep going
until you hit the spot... #
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SINGS BEAT TO CANDY SHOP
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I was always asking myself why
I wasn't born in the Western world.
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"I shouldn't be born in this world."
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Being a teenager in Iraq
is an interesting time.
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On the one hand, teenagers are
teenagers wherever you are.
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But then you have the extra spice of
being in Iraq
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and Baghdad at that time.
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Cos there was darkness in us
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that was induced by where we are and
what was happening all around us,
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that is quite dangerous.
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IN ENGLISH:
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You have to have a song for Saddam
in case the Iraqi intelligence
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basically are to come and are like,
"Who are these guys?
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"Why they singing American music?"
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# Following our leader
Saddam Hussein
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# We'll make them fall,
we'll drive them all insane
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# Following our leader
Saddam Hussein
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# We'll make them fall, we'll drive
them all insane... #
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Everything was pro-Saddam.
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There is no such thing
as not pro-Saddam.
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Like, it doesn't exist.
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In public? It does not exist.
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MUSIC PLAYS
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SINGING:
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Regime propaganda was everywhere,
and a whole generation
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of Iraqis had grown up only knowing
life under Saddam.
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I remember...
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..is when I get into the school,
I see paintings of Mickey Mouse...
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..and the picture of Saddam Hussein.
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I saw his picture everywhere.
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CHILDREN SING
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Whatever his name is mentioned,
you not just mentioned his name.
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You have to say, "May God protect
him, may God save him,
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"may Allah give him more life.
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"May God take our lives
and give it to him
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"because without him
we can't survive."
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And being a child,
I thought he is immortal.
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We are humans
but he is something different.
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APPLAUSE
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At some point, I thought he's
my grandfather.
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Because I see him everywhere and it
was like,
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"Yeah, this is my grandfather, he's
cute, he's good," blah, blah, blah.
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"He's brave." This is what
they teach us in the schools.
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And then when I was, like, 12
or maybe 11-12,
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I realised that no, he's the
president of the country
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and I have to never say anything bad
about him because I will be killed.
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And there's this guy
who's like...
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SPEAKS OWN LANGUAGE
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..which means, "Shit on Saddam."
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Every time he says it, it's like,
"Oh, my God, just shut the fuck up!"
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Like, "Sh, sh, zip it!"
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And he's like, "So, it's OK to
say, 'Fuck God?'"
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And I was like, "Yes."
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But "Fuck Saddam?"
And I was like, "No!"
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HE LAUGHS
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Cos you don't know who's listening.
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And that's what he created.
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The idea that your next-door
neighbour, your brother,
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your cousin - anyone - could be
the one that reports you.
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MEN SCREAM
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How many of you feel hopeful that
things could resolve themselves?
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I don't think anybody is hopeful
cos President Bush went up
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and said, "I will bomb Iraq."
Do you think we have any hope?
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We don't want any more wars, OK?
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The infamous deck of cards, the 55.
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Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash.
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She was part of the government -
one of the only females
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in Saddam's cabinet, you know,
this very high-ranking individual,
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was sitting as you are sitting,
looking right at us.
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And she was like,
"And know that Iraq depends on you
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"to transfer a good image about what
we truly are all about."
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I think that Saddam Hussein has had
12 years since the Persian Gulf War
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to get rid of his
weapons of mass destruction.
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And he should be ousted for the sake
of the Iraqi people
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as well as for the sake of peace in
the world.
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We have a solution.
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Your government will quit and give
up and just turn the soldiers
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back home and have a rest,
and let the world be in peace.
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Yet, we were free enough
during Saddam's time
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to go back and forth
without worrying about a car bomb
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or this Islamic group
or that religious group, you know?
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That's what Saddam actually
provided proper to Iraq.
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It was safety and security,
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from everything else, not from him.
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Saddam's opponents called his police
state the Republic of Fear.
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But many Iraqis were genuinely
devoted to their president.
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He was especially popular with
Sunni Muslims.
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Though a minority, their sect had
governed Iraq for centuries.
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Iraqis, they love moustache.
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They think it's very nice and sexy
for the men.
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And I think in that time, it was
trending, the moustache thing.
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"We love Saddam very much
so we will make this big moustache."
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People are arse kissers.
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Arse kissers? Yes.
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Though oil had made Iraq rich,
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most of the people in rural areas
were still living in poverty.
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This woman grew up on a farm
in Al Alam,
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near Saddam's hometown of Tikrit.
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Like most of Central Iraq, it was
assumed to be loyal to Saddam.
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I was pro-war.
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Absolutely pro-war.
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Saddam Hussein and his sons
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must leave Iraq within 48 hours.
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Their refusal to do so will
result in military conflict.
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When we started hearing the murmurs
that we are about to be invaded,
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I was excited.
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"It's almost the end!
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"Let's just push through.
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"Let's push through,
let's get this shit done,
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"and then a better
thing is going to come.
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"The land of dreams."
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AIR RAID SIRENS
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EXPLOSION
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DISTANT GUNFIRE
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EXPLOSION
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CAR ALARMS BLARE
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You must've been scared!
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SIREN BLARES
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WOMAN WAILS
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Down with Bush.
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All the peoples with Saddam Hussein.
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And said,
"Here's to Saddam Hussein."
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PLANE ROARS OVERHEAD
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RAPID GUNFIRE
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I was going out amidst all of that.
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I was looking for cigarettes.
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I'm a heavy smoker.
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And I heard that one of the shops
are still open
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and they're still selling
cigarettes.
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So I stole, or took - borrowed -
my cousin's small little bike.
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So it was a small little bike
and here I am, you know...
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..you know, cycling on this thing.
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GUNFIRE
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But then all of a sudden,
it got dark.
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And I look up and there is this
black cloud
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that engulfed EVERYTHING around me.
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And I remember, like, I was just
like, "What's going on?!"
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And then I discovered what it was.
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Here's what Saddam did.
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They dug wells,
and they dumped crude oil in it,
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and they lit it on fire...
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..so that they can create visual
distraction for the American pilots.
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They were thinking that these guys
are using visuals to actually bomb,
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not satellite-guided missiles and
stuff like that.
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They thought that,
"Oh, the plane's going to come,
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"the pilot looks like this, and he's
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"like, 'Oh, yes, there is a target
over here,
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"'let's shoot right over there!'"
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HE LAUGHS
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So, all of Baghdad - all off a
sudden, you had all of these wells
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of oil burning up and the sky
literally just going dark!
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SIRENS BLARE
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GUNFIRE
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During the invasion,
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Saddam reassured the country that
Iraq was winning the war.
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But the Americans were broadcasting
a very different message.
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The Iraqi soldiers and officers must
ask themselves
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whether they want to die fighting
for a doomed regime?
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What will follow will not be
a repeat of any other conflict.
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It will be of a force and scope
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and scale beyond what has been
seen before.
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All American!
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Where are we?
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Just crossed the border to Iraq
about ten miles ago.
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Destination North.
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As the first bombs fell,
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an army of over 170,000 coalition
troops crossed into Iraq.
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The American soldiers didn't have
much idea what was going on.
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And they don't really tell you
anything when you're 19
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and you're like a private
in the Army.
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They thought,
"We're going to run up to Baghdad
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"and take down Saddam,
and then we're going home."
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Dexter Filkins had come to Iraq
after reporting
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on the Afghan War
for the New York Times.
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People have asked me whether I got
addicted to violence
and the answer is no.
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I think what I was addicted to is
the kind of largeness of the thing.
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When you're in an historic situation
like that,
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it's like the continental plates
are slipping.
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It's incredible.
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It's like breathing pure oxygen.
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The British led a smaller force to
the city of Basra while Dexter
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followed the main invasion
as it pushed north to Baghdad.
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Soon, it will be all over.
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Iraq will be liberated.
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And we will be drinking
Jack Daniels to celebrate.
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HELICOPTER BLADES WHIR
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Did you think that Iraq would be
victorious?
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No.
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When I used to compare
between the American soldier
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and the Iraqi soldier,
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there is no way to compare them.
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MEN SING
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What can the soldier
do in front of Rambo?
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Yeah, I mean, this is the way I saw
the Americans.
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I mean, they are Rambo.
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And he is not defeatable.
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He's Rambo.
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Brother, could you get me another
shot of that tequila? Yeah, buddy.
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Is this difficult for you to talk
about? No.
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Yeah, maybe.
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Here, just give me the bottle,
I'll take a swig.
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There we go. Thanks, bro.
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Sergeant Rudy Reyes was one of
a small group of elite recon Marines
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sent ahead of the main invasion
to destroy strategic targets
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and clear a path
for the regular Army.
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Well, to be a reconnaissance Marine,
first of all,
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they're like the Jedis of the
Marine Corps.
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Of 300,000 Marines,
there's 300 recon Marines.
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We went three weeks straight
with no sleep, straight fighting.
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Three weeks.
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Yeah.
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No armour, no doors, no roofs.
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Just very capable
violent professionals.
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GUNFIRE
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It was heavy and as personal
and as bloody as you can imagine
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except we killed them
before they could kill us.
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Maybe those bad guys didn't get
the word to fucking run.
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Cos we were so far ahead,
30km ahead.
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60 men spearheading the blitzkrieg
to get to Baghdad.
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Damn.
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That's immense.
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My mission was to destroy
any capacity
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they have for artillery or mortars.
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00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,000
And also, of course, the NBC -
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nuclear, biological,
chemical weapons.
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It's the smell.
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The acridness of Iraq and seeing
the dust in the eye covers.
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it actually makes you feel kind of
good cos
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I knew I could fight in this better
than anybody else.
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Better than the Iraqis.
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Incoming, outgoing artillery.
Small arms, machine guns,
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birds and rotary wing and
the sound of all the engines.
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And the radios going nonstop,
we're going back and forth.
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00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,920
Imagine seeing the freaking Cobras
crisscrossing above you.
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And the bass of the boom, boom,
boom, boom...
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It was godlike.
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ECHOES OF GUNFIRE
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We're systematically
programmed to kill...
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..so there was no issue
for me killing.
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Looking back,
I guess that changes you.
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I didn't even think about my wife.
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I didn't think about anything
except be excellent for my team.
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Our purpose in the next few minutes
is to acquaint you
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with the philosophy behind
Marine Corps training -
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the kind of training which helps
keep the Marine Corps ready.
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Do you know, in our boot camp...
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..do you know how we say
the word yes?
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Kill!
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That's the only thing
you can say for yes.
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Kill!
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That loud, every time.
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00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,040
When the drill instructor needs
recruits to come do something,
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"Gimme ten bodies."
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We speak of people as bodies...
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..and acknowledge an order
by screaming "kill".
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Then we go into ballistics.
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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Then we're watching real world...
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..erm, head shots.
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Footage of sniper kills.
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And then they're slowing it down
in slow motion.
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Head expanding three times
the size...
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..then vacuum collapse,
then brain, some skull.
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When I saw that,
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I looked at myself inside
and I said,
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"I don't know if I have
what it takes to do this...
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"..because there is still
some human in me."
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00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,680
I was looking for the reaction
of the Iraqis...
401
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,080
..and I didn't know
what that was going to be,
402
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,800
because in Afghanistan, it was a...
it was a no-brainer.
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00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040
People were just, like, euphoric.
404
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,760
You know, they were pulling
their turbans off
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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,920
and people were dancing
and they were, like, hugging us.
406
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,040
Much more complicated in Iraq.
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00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Much more complicated.
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00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,760
It was much more guarded,
much more sad.
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I mean, first, there was this kind
of overwhelming sense of tragedy.
410
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Even though they were being told,
this is your deliverance,
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I don't think
they really believed that.
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They were terrified.
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They thought that somehow this
was going to come back to them.
414
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,600
"We're going to get in trouble
for this.
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00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
"Something bad's going to happen."
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Cos that's the way
it had always been,
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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,040
so there was this kind of feeling
of foreboding as well.
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They had been through so much
already
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that, erm, people
were just in shock.
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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,040
And I felt like...
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I felt like we had pried the doors
off a mental institution.
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And that's really the first moment
when I realised, like,
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"Oh, my God,
what are we getting into here?"
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After 13 years
of economic sanctions,
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many Iraqis felt they had been
unnecessarily punished by the West.
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And in southern Iraq, they had extra
reason to distrust the Americans.
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00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Just two hours ago,
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Allied air forces began an attack
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on military targets in Iraq.
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After the first Gulf War,
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America encouraged Shia Muslims
in the south
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to rise up against Saddam,
but didn't protect them
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00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,760
when he sent helicopter gunships
to end the rebellion.
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HEAVY GUNFIRE
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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
He massacred over 80,000
of his own people.
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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,680
Saddam was able to strengthen
his hold on the country
437
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,040
and, for some,
the war with America never ended.
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00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,760
I started hearing about America
in the '90s.
439
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
But, to be honest,
not the war with America.
440
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,080
The first thing I heard about
America is the name Bill Clinton.
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00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Who is Bill Clinton? I don't know.
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00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,760
I was told that Bill Clinton
bombed Iraq
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00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,760
because he hates Iraq.
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00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,160
AIR RAID SIREN
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I ordered our Armed Forces
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to strike military and strategic
targets in Iraq.
447
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Then, the second name was Rumsfeld.
448
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,600
With each passing day,
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00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,160
Saddam Hussein advances his arsenal
of weapons of mass destruction.
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00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,440
And then, growing up more...
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00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,360
..I saw Bush.
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00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,200
What did you think?
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00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,600
I don't like him.
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00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,400
He has the devil in his face.
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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,520
This is George W Bush,
the President of the United States.
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At this moment,
the regime of Saddam Hussein
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is being removed from power
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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,040
and a long era of fear
and cruelty is ending.
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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,520
The government of Iraq
and the future of your country
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00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,520
will soon belong to you.
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00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Just three weeks after
the start of the invasion,
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American tanks rolled into
the heart of Baghdad.
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00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Al-Sahhaf, who was the Minister
of Media and Information,
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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,680
saying, "We're defeating Americans,
we have destroyed them here,
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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,760
"we have destroyed them here,
we have destroyed them here."
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00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,760
My feelings, as usual,
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00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,120
we will slaughter them all.
468
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
"They're not in Baghdad,
they are not near us,
469
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680
"they have not even
entered the city."
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00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840
And literally there was a tank
driving over one of the bridges
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that connects to where he is.
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HE LAUGHS
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00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Those invaders, their tombs
will be here in Iraq.
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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Like, sure, buddy. Sure.
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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
HE LAUGHS
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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560
CHEERING
477
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Like most Iraqis, Sally had only
ever seen Americans
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on state approved TV.
479
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,680
SHE LAUGHS
480
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,000
The welcome here
has been pretty good.
481
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Everybody's helped us out
and been friendly
482
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680
so better than being shot at.
483
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Where are you from? From Texas.
484
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,760
Is it like Texas being here or
a lot different? A lot different.
485
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760
I can understand what everybody
is saying in Texas.
486
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,880
We never thought that Saddam
will be removed. Never.
487
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Until I saw two American soldiers
standing in the street.
488
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360
I was very happy to see them
at that time.
489
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,760
"Hi! I can speak English!"
490
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,760
So when I saw them, I felt hope.
491
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,280
I had this dream that my country
492
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,920
is becoming one of the good
countries in the Middle East.
493
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,720
Or maybe in the world.
494
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,760
A country like America.
495
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,520
This was my dream.
496
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,280
Actually, that was lots
of people's dream.
497
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,040
There was a genuine sense of hope.
498
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,120
It was like, "They're here,
they're here."
499
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,760
You know?
500
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,760
And then when we saw the statue...
501
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,520
My uncle looked at us
and he was like,
502
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
"It's over. It's done."
503
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,960
CHEERING
504
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,040
CHEERING
505
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,520
CROWD: Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
506
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,760
Allahu Akbar! Allahu...!
507
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Slowly but surely,
the belief started becoming
508
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,520
more and more cemented that this
is actually happening right now.
509
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,760
And then, oops, all of a sudden,
we see Saddam in the streets.
510
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,800
CHEERING
511
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,760
At the same time as the Americans
were pulling down his statue,
512
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,760
Saddam was rallying the people
of Baghdad just a few miles away.
513
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,080
CHANTING
514
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,240
CHEERING
515
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,560
And then he disappeared
and nobody knew where he was.
516
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Just...
517
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,520
..gone.
518
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040
But, yeah, he just fucking left.
519
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Is Saddam going to come back?
520
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Because he wasn't captured.
521
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,040
Where was he?
Did he have another plan?
522
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040
We didn't know.
523
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,840
CROWD: Allahu Akbar!
524
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Things were changing so fast.
525
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,480
We couldn't cope.
526
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,280
I remember the day
that Baghdad fell.
527
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520
We all watched it on the news
in the hotel
528
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,520
and thought we'd missed the war.
529
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,840
I mean, what we didn't realise
was...
530
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,520
..that the invasion wasn't the war,
the war was to come.
531
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Though there hadn't been
much resistance in Baghdad,
532
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760
coalition troops were still
fighting in other cities.
533
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,280
GUNFIRE
534
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,040
SUDDEN EXPLOSION
535
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,920
Mosul was really, really dangerous.
536
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
The situation on the ground
was a disaster.
537
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,520
When Ashley Gilbertson arrived
in northern Iraq,
538
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,360
he was a 26-year-old
freelance photographer
539
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080
with virtually no experience
of war.
540
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,000
I had no idea what I was doing.
541
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,040
All of these reporters started
coming into the north.
542
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,840
They have all of this shit -
543
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,040
the flak jackets with the plates
and the helmets
544
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,920
and these chemical masks with
the things you screw in the bottom.
545
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
I didn't have a flak jacket,
I didn't have a helmet.
546
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040
We didn't even have a medical kit
in the truck.
547
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
And then we filled the truck
with beer and whisky
548
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,400
and a bit of food
and just drove around.
549
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,040
We should have been killed.
550
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,720
A thousand times over
we should have been killed.
551
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,440
Saddam was still the president
of Iraq in Mosul...
552
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,200
..and all the mosques
553
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,760
were preaching the same prayer
554
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040
of, "May God protect Saddam,"
555
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,040
and then they start, like,
shouting against the Americans.
556
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,560
After a few minutes,
a Humvee stopped by the mosque
557
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,880
and this very same preacher,
all of a sudden,
558
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,680
changed his mind, and he started
shouting against Saddam.
559
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,800
I was shocked.
560
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,520
What just happened?
561
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,280
Many people followed him
and swapped sides...
562
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,040
..in a moment.
563
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,520
And then there was chaos.
564
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,680
You would see people
running to everywhere,
565
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,280
stealing things from buildings,
566
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,880
from the schools, from everything.
567
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,280
I was stood by the Central Bank
as everybody looted it.
568
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,920
They were trying to get into the
safe in the basement of the bank.
569
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,760
Everyone's banging on this thing
with mallets and trying to open it.
570
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,920
Obviously, they're not opening
the safe of the Central Bank.
571
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,760
Until a guy goes down the driveway
leading to the safe
572
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,280
with an RPG on his shoulder and
fires the fucking RPG at the safe
573
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,520
and then money starts raining down.
574
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,280
EXPLOSION
575
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,160
It's total bedlam, it's total chaos.
576
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,280
And American soldiers standing by
doing nothing.
577
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,280
They are looting everything,
destroying everything.
578
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,920
I don't know why.
579
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,360
Goodbye.
580
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,520
When you have years and years
of poverty
581
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,680
and then all of a sudden
the floodgates are open,
582
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,520
with no supervision...
583
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,520
..what would you do?
584
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,040
I mean, I was tempted.
585
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:31,040
And I remember, you know,
seeing American soldiers
586
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880
just waving by, you know,
587
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,760
as people literally just looting
every single government building,
588
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,040
schools, hospitals, you name it.
589
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,520
With the exception of
the Ministry of Oil.
590
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,520
That was the one ministry
that immediately got protection
591
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,160
by the American Army.
592
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,280
Everything else was free game.
593
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,040
If you go from a repressive regime,
594
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,920
we've seen in that transition
period there's untidiness.
595
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Freedom's untidy and free people
are free to make mistakes
596
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,880
and commit crimes and do bad things.
597
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,360
Stuff happens.
598
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,760
You'd hear the stuff
coming out of the White House
599
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,280
and it was like,
"What are you talking about?"
600
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,760
The whole city, the whole country
has been stripped and looted.
601
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,920
There is no government.
There is nothing. There's nothing.
602
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,440
How can you let this happen?
603
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,760
How can you tell your soldiers
to let this happen
604
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,520
and not have a plan for what's
going to take place tomorrow?
605
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,520
When all the money,
when all the currency is gone,
606
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,520
when all the hospitals
are looted and burned.
607
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,280
What are you going to do?
608
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,040
We need protection
very, very, very badly.
609
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,840
You know, when you hold a gun
and examine a patient,
610
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,040
he himself will not like that,
the patient,
611
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,280
examined by a doctor
carrying his machine-gun.
612
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,760
Starting to see that chaos,
613
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,000
I started to question
what on earth was going on.
614
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,440
Primarily, our big concern right now
is trying to get things
615
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
back to normal here in Baghdad.
616
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040
They had a lot of problems
with locals out here looting.
617
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,200
It's a pretty tough situation
because we're not a police force
618
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,040
and we can't go through patrolling,
619
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,280
acting as policemen,
guarding everybody.
620
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,720
We wanted to do something
but we were told to stand down.
621
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,040
Then we got the order to go out
and help with basic first aid,
622
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,760
medical and water.
623
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,760
We take orders
and then execute them.
624
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360
But there are things that happen
625
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,440
that I really have a hard time
remembering.
626
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,760
We killed some civilians
627
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,200
because we put up signs in Arabic.
628
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,520
"This is a roadblock, turn around
or else we will engage you."
629
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,920
We didn't know they can't read.
630
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,200
So they came pouring through
in their vehicles,
631
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,000
we killed every one of them.
632
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,280
Grandpa, mommy,
633
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,040
and the kids.
634
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,800
I feel sad for them.
635
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,000
But that is the profession.
636
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,040
A threat or possible threat,
you must neutralise.
637
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,040
When you look back at your time in
Iraq, do you think it was worth it?
638
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,040
Yes, it's worth it.
639
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,080
I mean, it has to be worth it.
What's the...
640
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,520
..what's the alternative?
641
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,760
ECHOES OF GUNFIRE
642
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,520
At least I can have remorse now.
643
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,920
You know, I've been carrying
dead bodies with me forever.
644
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,280
But I'm lucky.
645
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Not everybody gets through it
as well as I have.
646
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,520
I remember watching the city burn...
647
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
..and, erm, we did nothing.
648
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Baghdad just ripped to pieces.
649
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,760
And I remember thinking, like,
650
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
"Oh, my God," like...
651
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,280
.."Never. We're never going to put
this back in.
652
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,320
"We're never going to get it
back in the bottle. Never."
653
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,520
I remember that feeling very well.
654
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,520
The entire public infrastructure
of Iraq was stripped clean,
655
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,280
gone to zero,
656
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,840
and so...
657
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,680
..the Americans just dug themselves
into this terrible hole.
658
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,960
Terrible.
659
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,440
And they spent the next nine years
trying to, like,
660
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,080
stand this thing up on its own.
661
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,920
That's what the whole
story of the war is.
662
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,640
Immediately after the invasion,
one of the only ways
663
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,760
to earn money in Baghdad
was working as a translator.
664
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,200
We were negotiating the price and I
didn't know what the rate would be.
665
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,360
I was ready to work for a dollar.
666
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,280
And they were like,
"Would $50 be OK?"
667
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,360
And I was like, "$50 a what?",
you know,
668
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,360
and I'm trying to compose myself.
669
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,320
And they were like, "A day."
670
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,920
And I was like, 50 fucking bucks?!
671
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,600
That's freaking awesome!
672
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,040
50 bucks was my dad's salary
for six months.
673
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,520
I was making it in a day.
674
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,880
And I was like,
"All right, we've got a deal."
675
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,520
I would hire a cab,
676
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,640
would take a journalist with me,
and we'd just drive around.
677
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,760
This is Mutanabbi Street.
678
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,520
This is one of the most
old streets in Baghdad.
679
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,520
And it's such an odd feeling
because, before the war started,
680
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,040
shops are open, people are walking,
681
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,280
buying, selling, eating, drinking...
682
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,040
..and now, it's a ghost town.
683
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,040
There is no police any more,
no firefighters,
684
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,760
no electricity, no water.
685
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,760
It's an impossible situation
for anyone that was there.
686
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,600
On the one hand, you're hopeful.
687
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Oh, the future's going to be great,
and all of that.
688
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,920
At the same time, you're seeing
clear evidence that...
689
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,240
..things are not good.
690
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
So we're looking for stories
691
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,520
and we heard of this man in Karbala,
692
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,120
he's a Bedouin.
693
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,280
And then we get to a spot where
the car cannot drive any more.
694
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,280
And then I got to see
the true face of invasion.
695
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,520
He's saying that this is his home.
696
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,040
According to his story,
697
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,680
in one afternoon,
three Apaches came...
698
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,520
..hovered,
699
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,560
and then they just opened fire
on him and his family,
700
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,840
and they just murdered everyone
and everything that was alive.
701
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Everything.
702
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Him and another brother of his
were the only ones that survived.
703
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Erm...
704
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,680
..honestly, I had my reservations,
705
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,440
and I was like,
"This is just very unreal.
706
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,360
"This is too much. Too much.
707
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,680
"People can't be that bad.
They can't be that evil."
708
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,040
And then he starts frantically
digging through the sand,
709
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,760
showing us the remnants
and the remains
710
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,000
of what used to be his family.
711
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,840
I mean, that doesn't make any sense.
712
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520
HE SIGHS
713
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,760
We were all hopeful
at the beginning.
714
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,040
But then, soon after,
715
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760
truth started coming up...
716
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,360
..and the myth that we were sold
unravelled itself
717
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,280
into this nightmare that
we all knew now we're stuck in.
718
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,040
They had never had
that opportunity to vote
719
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,040
and for them it was sheer joy.
720
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:34,440
This is the core of being a human
is...having a voice.
721
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,600
Does that sound naive?
722
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,040
I was super impressed
with Colonel Sassaman.
723
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,320
There's some good things happening.
The thing could work.
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