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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,048 --> 00:00:08,758 [reporter 1] Scottie, in the paper today, 2 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,594 it says that Phil wants one more year back here 3 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:14,055 and Michael wants $36 million. 4 00:00:14,139 --> 00:00:18,226 And it also quotes Jerry Krause as not ruling out a trade for you, 5 00:00:18,309 --> 00:00:21,604 which leaves you flapping in the breeze. Does that bother you? 6 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:22,522 No. 7 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:27,694 I would love the opportunity of finishing my career out in Chicago, 8 00:00:27,777 --> 00:00:31,656 but if it don't happen, then I'll just have to look elsewhere. 9 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:35,118 I'm one of the best players to ever play the game. 10 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:39,622 I understand what my value is to this game. 11 00:00:40,457 --> 00:00:42,751 [reporter 2] You're underpaid as one of the top players. 12 00:00:42,834 --> 00:00:44,210 What do you think your value is-- 13 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:45,420 My day'll come. 14 00:00:46,379 --> 00:00:47,464 My day will come. 15 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:53,887 [crowd cheering] 16 00:01:00,852 --> 00:01:02,062 [Pippen] Thank you. 17 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:06,399 Thank you for all the wonderful moments that the fans here in this city 18 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:10,445 have shown me and my teammates for ten long seasons. 19 00:01:14,115 --> 00:01:15,700 I've had a wonderful career here, 20 00:01:15,784 --> 00:01:19,287 and if I never have the opportunity to say this again: thank you. 21 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:21,039 [crowd continues cheering] 22 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:26,836 [reporter] Scottie Pippen with a tearful thank you. 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,214 We thought, for one unconscionable moment, 24 00:01:29,297 --> 00:01:31,508 we might be hearing a retirement statement there. 25 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:38,056 What made me upset was I knew it was the end of the journey, 26 00:01:38,139 --> 00:01:42,143 and I never saw it ending like that. 27 00:01:42,894 --> 00:01:46,940 Jerry Krause made everything real murky when he said, 28 00:01:47,023 --> 00:01:49,067 "This is Phil's last year. 29 00:01:49,150 --> 00:01:53,321 We're dismantling this team after this season." 30 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:56,241 We're basically relieved of our duties. 31 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:02,455 [commentator 1] A spectacular move! 32 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:04,124 [commentator 2] The game's over! 33 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:06,543 [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! 34 00:02:08,503 --> 00:02:11,005 [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 35 00:02:11,089 --> 00:02:11,965 It's time for me to move on. 36 00:02:12,048 --> 00:02:14,342 [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. 37 00:02:17,053 --> 00:02:19,556 -[man 1] Are the expectations too high? -[man 2] Where do we go from here? 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,142 [woman] The only question: how long can it last? 39 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:32,652 -[indistinct chatter] -[camera shutters clicking] 40 00:02:35,905 --> 00:02:37,198 [reporter 1] I'm being squished. 41 00:02:37,282 --> 00:02:39,117 -[reporter 2] Sorry. -[reporter 3] Take it easy. 42 00:02:39,701 --> 00:02:42,829 [reporter 4] Michael, what did you make of Scottie Pippen's speech? 43 00:02:42,912 --> 00:02:44,789 He was kind of caught up in emotions. 44 00:02:45,582 --> 00:02:47,167 [Jordan] Scottie has feelings. 45 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:51,004 He certainly has dedication and love for the city of Chicago and, uh... 46 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:57,010 you know, it's tough when you have so much appreciation for the fans 47 00:02:57,093 --> 00:02:59,345 who have supported you for so many years 48 00:02:59,429 --> 00:03:01,639 and sometimes, when you get out there and speak, 49 00:03:01,723 --> 00:03:04,309 it has to touch you deep down inside, um, 50 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,895 and with all that's happened thus far, 51 00:03:06,978 --> 00:03:10,231 it certainly can be a very emotional situation for him. 52 00:03:11,566 --> 00:03:13,484 [reporter 5] Have you talked with him at all... 53 00:03:13,568 --> 00:03:16,029 Are y'all gonna talk about the game or about Scottie? 54 00:03:16,112 --> 00:03:16,946 A little bit of both. 55 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,032 Well, you talk to Scottie to answer Scottie's reply. 56 00:03:19,115 --> 00:03:20,992 -Okay, what about the game, then? -There you go. 57 00:03:21,075 --> 00:03:21,910 [laughter] 58 00:03:48,937 --> 00:03:50,897 [Wilbon] Scottie Pippen was the underrated, 59 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:54,984 underappreciated Robin to Michael's Batman. 60 00:03:55,068 --> 00:03:58,821 [Jordan] I would never be able to find a tandem, another support system, 61 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,866 another partner in the game of basketball like Scottie Pippen. 62 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:03,576 He was a pleasure to play with. 63 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:06,955 [commentator 1] What a show the Bulls are putting on here. 64 00:04:07,038 --> 00:04:11,167 [commentator 2] Pippen right back to Jordan! Yes. Oh, my! 65 00:04:12,502 --> 00:04:13,753 Through trial and error, 66 00:04:13,836 --> 00:04:18,591 through that kind of blast furnace that Michael would put people through, 67 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:20,635 Scottie got tough. 68 00:04:20,718 --> 00:04:22,804 [commentator 3] Scottie coming hard on the drive, 69 00:04:22,887 --> 00:04:26,057 -takes it all the way to the rack-- Oh! -[commentator 4] Over Barkley! 70 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:29,560 And he was lethal, defensively. 71 00:04:29,644 --> 00:04:31,896 [commentator 5] Sedale Threatt. Antonio hard-- 72 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:34,274 -Oh, my, Pippen! -[commentator 6] What a play! 73 00:04:34,357 --> 00:04:37,652 Sensational end-to-end defensive action! 74 00:04:39,737 --> 00:04:40,697 Oh, Pip! 75 00:04:41,864 --> 00:04:45,201 [Jordan] He helped me so much in the way that I approached the game, 76 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:46,619 the way I played the game. 77 00:04:47,245 --> 00:04:49,872 Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen. 78 00:04:49,956 --> 00:04:50,999 [crowd cheering] 79 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,254 When everybody says, well, I won all these championships. 80 00:04:57,005 --> 00:04:59,007 But I didn't win without Scottie Pippen. 81 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:03,845 And, you know, that's why I consider him my best teammate of all time. 82 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:12,645 [Pippen] I grew up in a town of about 3,500 people. 83 00:05:13,563 --> 00:05:15,732 Everybody pretty much knew each other. 84 00:05:16,941 --> 00:05:22,488 My mom and my dad were very strong people and they were about surviving, 85 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:25,950 and obviously that's what they were about if they had 12 kids. 86 00:05:29,787 --> 00:05:32,749 We used to have a basket in my grandmother's yard. 87 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:36,377 It was in the dirt, so it would be dusty all the time. 88 00:05:36,961 --> 00:05:40,131 It didn't matter. I had old shoes anyway. 89 00:05:40,214 --> 00:05:44,093 Everybody was close-knit, everybody shared everything, you know. 90 00:05:44,177 --> 00:05:47,055 It was just a good time. We didn't even know we were poor. 91 00:05:47,138 --> 00:05:48,306 [chuckles] 92 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:52,560 [Pippen] I was about 11 or 12. 93 00:05:54,937 --> 00:06:00,360 My dad had just gotten home and as he was eating his dinner, 94 00:06:00,443 --> 00:06:01,444 he just, kinda... 95 00:06:03,112 --> 00:06:06,366 fell back and he suffered a stroke. 96 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:13,623 I can still see it every time I think about it. 97 00:06:15,124 --> 00:06:19,504 He lost his speech and he was stuck in a wheelchair 98 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:22,131 and bedridden for the rest of his life. 99 00:06:24,008 --> 00:06:25,593 Six years before that, 100 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:30,431 my second-oldest brother was in junior high school. 101 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:36,521 A kid fell on him in a PE class with a wrestling move. 102 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,190 It paralyzed him, so... 103 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:42,902 -[interviewer] So, you grew up with... -Two. 104 00:06:42,985 --> 00:06:46,155 Yeah. Yeah, with two people in my house in a wheelchair. 105 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:52,412 Basketball gave me an opportunity just to get out of the house and play. 106 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:55,415 And didn't need anyone to play with. 107 00:06:55,998 --> 00:06:59,335 Dr. J was my childhood hero. 108 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:04,257 I always wanted to play like him and dunk the basketball like him. 109 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:08,803 I felt like, that one day, I was gonna be in his shoes. 110 00:07:08,886 --> 00:07:11,264 Yeah, that's every kid's dream. 111 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:15,017 Every kid's dream, wanna play in the NBA at one time or another. 112 00:07:17,353 --> 00:07:18,563 It's just a dream. 113 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,942 He always knew he was going to make it to the NBA. 114 00:07:23,025 --> 00:07:25,194 -[interviewer] And you believed him? -Not really. 115 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:33,661 Scottie arrived at UCA, and he started off as being the equipment manager, 116 00:07:33,744 --> 00:07:36,330 but he was practicing and doing all of those things 117 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:38,040 that he should do with the team. 118 00:07:40,751 --> 00:07:45,673 A few guys academically fall off so some scholarships come available, 119 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,801 and I go back, ask the coach. 120 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,764 I was very persistent and he finally gave me a scholarship. 121 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:57,810 He came in as a 6'1", 155-pound guard. 122 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:01,272 I got to watch him play and I thought, 123 00:08:01,355 --> 00:08:04,066 "Wow, this guy's got a little something if he can fill out." 124 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:06,319 [Martin] He started lifting weights. 125 00:08:06,402 --> 00:08:08,821 He could handle the ball better, he could shoot better. 126 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:10,031 He could jump higher. 127 00:08:10,114 --> 00:08:13,367 I was getting better at such a rapid pace. 128 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:17,914 And in my freshman to my sophomore year, over the summer... 129 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 I grew five inches. 130 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:24,921 [Martin] When I seen him the next time, he was 6'5". 131 00:08:25,463 --> 00:08:27,590 And then the next time I seen him, he was 6'7". 132 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:30,676 [commentator] Beautiful pass and he... Oh! 133 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,970 To Pippen cutting right across the line... 134 00:08:33,554 --> 00:08:34,639 He exploded. 135 00:08:34,722 --> 00:08:37,600 [commentator] Three-on-one break, Parish to Pippen to the-- 136 00:08:38,893 --> 00:08:41,395 [East] He kept his guard skills that he had even when he grew. 137 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:44,106 [commentator] Scottie Pippen underneath McClain... 138 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,108 [East] He could grab a rebound on one end, 139 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:49,487 take it the length of the court, weave in and out of people and dunk it. 140 00:08:49,570 --> 00:08:51,197 Very few players can do that. 141 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,740 [crowd cheering] 142 00:08:56,911 --> 00:09:00,623 I remember the coach saying, "Scottie, they out there, they looking for you now." 143 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:07,505 [Clinton] I was a fanatic basketball fan 144 00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:10,758 and I went down and watched Pippen play. I knew he was gonna be really good. 145 00:09:10,841 --> 00:09:13,511 First time I met him, he could hardly string three words together, 146 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:14,512 he was so shy. 147 00:09:14,595 --> 00:09:17,807 By the time he graduated from the University of Central Arkansas, 148 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,184 which was an NAIA team, 149 00:09:20,268 --> 00:09:22,728 he was the best player in his division in America. 150 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,230 I just really got excited. 151 00:09:24,313 --> 00:09:26,190 When I saw Scottie Pippen play the first time, 152 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:29,026 I thought, "Oh, my Lord, he's gonna be a special player." 153 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:32,738 [East] The NBA scouts saw the versatility, they saw the athletic ability, 154 00:09:32,822 --> 00:09:34,031 they saw the humbleness. 155 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:41,080 The Seattle SuperSonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas. 156 00:09:41,789 --> 00:09:45,668 [announcer] Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas. 157 00:09:45,751 --> 00:09:48,337 He's 21 years old, and that's right, folks, 158 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:51,048 you probably have never heard of Scottie Pippen. 159 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:52,300 [reporter 1] Scottie, one year ago, 160 00:09:52,383 --> 00:09:54,552 if someone said you'd be the fifth player in the draft, 161 00:09:54,635 --> 00:09:55,761 what would you have said? 162 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:58,347 I would have told them, probably, that they was joking. 163 00:09:59,724 --> 00:10:02,059 I would have figured it's just been a big joke. 164 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:05,563 [reporter 2] Do you know that there's a deal involving Seattle and Chicago 165 00:10:05,646 --> 00:10:06,856 and you're going to be traded? 166 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:08,357 No, I have not heard about it. 167 00:10:09,317 --> 00:10:13,904 -Apparently, you're wearing the wrong hat. -Yeah? [laughs] 168 00:10:13,988 --> 00:10:17,450 We realized that we were gonna have to maneuver to get up in the draft 169 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:20,536 to get a higher pick than we otherwise would have had to get him. 170 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,330 And Krause was able to pull off a trade. 171 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,500 [Krause] We were able to work a trade the night before the draft 172 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:28,878 and technically, the Seattle club took him for us, 173 00:10:28,961 --> 00:10:30,838 and then we acquired him. 174 00:10:30,921 --> 00:10:34,091 You know, Chicago is a great franchise and probably every player 175 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:37,511 that's sitting out in the audience wants to be a part of the Bulls. 176 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:39,972 [reporter] The Bulls brought in Scottie Pippen, 177 00:10:40,056 --> 00:10:43,225 touted to make an immediate impact in the NBA. 178 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:44,143 [coach] Let's go! 179 00:10:44,894 --> 00:10:47,897 [commentator] Scottie Pippen about to make his big-league debut. 180 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:51,233 Barkley nearly kicked it away, plays it outside. Stolen by Pippen! 181 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:52,943 Scottie Pippen on the breakaway! 182 00:10:53,736 --> 00:10:55,529 Scottie Pippen made the steal 183 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:57,865 and then jammed with both hands at the other end. 184 00:10:57,948 --> 00:10:59,492 [Oakley] Scottie talked a lot of trash. 185 00:11:00,534 --> 00:11:03,287 Scottie came in and said, "I'll be better than Michael Jordan..." 186 00:11:04,580 --> 00:11:05,790 as a rookie. 187 00:11:05,873 --> 00:11:09,752 I was pretty confident in who I was as a player. 188 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:13,422 But as a rookie, you get treated like a rookie and... 189 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:18,427 Charles was a bully, so he beat me up for saying that. 190 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:20,388 -He's a rookie here. -We had a deal... 191 00:11:20,471 --> 00:11:21,722 [indistinct] 192 00:11:21,806 --> 00:11:24,684 He get treatment like this until next year at this time. 193 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:26,268 All right? All right? 194 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:27,186 -Yeah. -Okay. 195 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:29,480 -[man] You gotta slap him. -[Pippen laughs] 196 00:11:30,147 --> 00:11:32,817 I recognized instantly that, you know, 197 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:36,779 you're not the top guy on the basketball team anymore. 198 00:11:36,862 --> 00:11:39,699 [commentator] Ball tipped away by Jordan... It's loose. 199 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:41,659 Ahead to Jordan with the breakaway... 200 00:11:45,746 --> 00:11:49,917 [Pippen] Michael was such a superstar in the game of basketball, 201 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:56,382 and he was bigger than any superstar that any sport had ever had, 202 00:11:56,465 --> 00:12:01,804 so it wasn't like he was an average guy, like, "Let's go have lunch," or whatever. 203 00:12:03,097 --> 00:12:04,140 It was different. 204 00:12:06,934 --> 00:12:12,064 Actually, my rookie year, he gave me a pair of golf clubs. 205 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:15,192 [interviewer] That's a nice thing to do, to give a rookie a set of clubs. 206 00:12:15,901 --> 00:12:20,072 Yeah, he was trying to lure me in so he could take all my money. 207 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:24,118 [Telander] Everybody needs that number two, 208 00:12:24,201 --> 00:12:27,037 the person that does the dirty work, and Pippen was great at it. 209 00:12:27,121 --> 00:12:29,415 [commentator 1] Here comes Michael, for a three again. 210 00:12:30,124 --> 00:12:33,252 -Scottie with the left hand! -[commentator 2] Wow! 211 00:12:34,128 --> 00:12:35,838 But he was so low paid, 212 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:39,925 he was not even the 100th highest-paid player in the NBA. 213 00:12:40,009 --> 00:12:43,095 Pippen is as underpaid as underpaid gets. 214 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:47,224 Only the 122nd highest-paid player in the league. 215 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:50,770 [interviewer] Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991. 216 00:12:50,853 --> 00:12:53,022 Do you recall the terms of that deal? 217 00:12:53,105 --> 00:12:56,567 I don't recall the terms but I do recall that it was a longer contract 218 00:12:56,650 --> 00:12:58,319 than I thought was smart for him. 219 00:12:58,402 --> 00:12:59,904 [fans yelling indistinctly] 220 00:12:59,987 --> 00:13:00,946 [woman] Pippen! 221 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:03,199 [man] I worship you, man! 222 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:09,580 Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991 for 7 years for $18 million. 223 00:13:09,663 --> 00:13:14,835 And if he'd played it right, he could have made nine times that amount, ten times. 224 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:18,172 [Reinsdorf] I said to Scottie the same thing I'd said to Michael. 225 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:20,049 "If I were you, I wouldn't sign this contract. 226 00:13:20,132 --> 00:13:21,717 You may be selling yourself too short. 227 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:24,053 It's too long a contract you're locking yourself in for." 228 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:29,183 [Pippen] I felt like I couldn't afford to gamble myself 229 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:32,394 getting injured and not being able to provide. 230 00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:39,026 I needed to make sure that people in my corner were taken care of. 231 00:13:39,109 --> 00:13:44,114 He did take care of my dad and my mom, and he built them a house. 232 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:46,408 He sent 'em money every month and everything. 233 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:47,660 They were taken care of. 234 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:51,288 [Ethel] I don't know nothing that I need or want. 235 00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:54,500 Some of the things I don't have to ask him for. 236 00:13:56,293 --> 00:13:58,337 So I feel like he love me. 237 00:13:59,463 --> 00:14:01,131 I know I love him. 238 00:14:04,969 --> 00:14:09,098 He signed a long-term deal and it was undervalued pretty quickly. 239 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:11,767 The league took off, you know, 240 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,603 revenues went way, way up, salaries went up. 241 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:20,734 Jerry Reinsdorf was emphatic about it when guys signed a contract. 242 00:14:20,818 --> 00:14:22,361 I don't want to hear from you again. 243 00:14:22,444 --> 00:14:24,446 Don't come back in here, try to renegotiate. 244 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,283 [Jackson] It was embarrassing 245 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:30,160 because he was maybe the number-two player in the NBA. 246 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,122 His value was immense. 247 00:14:33,914 --> 00:14:35,833 [trainer] Just drop straight down, there you go. 248 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:39,128 You know what, I'm finding it's okay on this one, 249 00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:41,797 but on my other, my patella doesn't... 250 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,966 [Stack] When we got to '97 and '98, 251 00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:46,635 that was the last year of Scottie's contract, 252 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:51,473 I know he was very frustrated, because Scottie needed to get paid. 253 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:52,808 He deserved to get paid. 254 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:58,022 There was a lot of, uh, anger from Scottie. 255 00:14:58,105 --> 00:15:01,400 He'd been one of the best players in the game for many years. 256 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,152 He had done so much for the Bulls. 257 00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:06,822 So his frustration bubbled over. 258 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:09,199 [reporter] The world champs making news this week. 259 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:12,244 Scottie Pippen of the Bulls will be out for two to three months. 260 00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:15,372 Pippen underwent surgery Monday on a sore foot in New York. 261 00:15:15,456 --> 00:15:17,082 It's an injury that's been bothering him 262 00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:19,460 dating back to the Eastern Conference Finals. 263 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:22,922 [Pippen] I had a ruptured tendon in my ankle 264 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:26,342 and I decided to have surgery late 265 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:29,887 because I was, like, "You know what? 266 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:36,185 I'm not gonna fuck my summer up trying to rehab for a season, you know? 267 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:39,563 They're not gonna be looking forward to having me. 268 00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:44,318 So, I'mma enjoy my summer, and I'll use the season to prepare." 269 00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,278 [Jordan] Scottie was wrong in that scenario. 270 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:50,032 He could have got his surgery done as soon as the season was over, 271 00:15:50,115 --> 00:15:51,617 and be ready for the season. 272 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:55,496 What Scottie was trying to do was trying to force management 273 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:57,790 to change his contract. 274 00:15:58,999 --> 00:16:00,584 And Jerry wasn't gonna do that. 275 00:16:04,171 --> 00:16:08,550 So, now I gotta start the season knowing that Scottie wasn't gonna be around. 276 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:11,637 But we have to find a way to win. 277 00:16:12,346 --> 00:16:15,849 How do you carry this team, now, November and December without Scottie? 278 00:16:15,933 --> 00:16:17,518 I think we have to do it collectively. 279 00:16:17,601 --> 00:16:19,687 I don't think one individual's gonna be able to do it. 280 00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:22,815 I think, uh, we as a team, that's what a team is all about, 281 00:16:22,898 --> 00:16:25,234 so we have to cover up for Scottie not being here. 282 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,861 We know he's not here, but that don't mean we stop playing. 283 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:31,073 [reporter] Our Chicago Bulls without Scottie Pippen, 284 00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:32,866 and they apparently missed him tonight. 285 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:38,455 [commentator] The Atlanta Hawks beat the Bulls here in Atlanta. 286 00:16:38,539 --> 00:16:40,082 The final score, 80-78. 287 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:44,670 [commentator 2] This is going to be the worst setback for the Chicago Bulls. 288 00:16:44,753 --> 00:16:47,965 Cavaliers beat up the Chicago Bulls... 289 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:49,550 [reporter] Again, it is still early, 290 00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:51,552 but four and four for the Bulls out of the gate. 291 00:16:51,635 --> 00:16:53,846 Have not scored 100 points yet this season. 292 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:01,729 We're not playing with much continuity and much rhythm 293 00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:04,481 and that's something that Scottie really provides for us. 294 00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:07,943 Scottie was so key for our team. He tied us together in many ways. 295 00:17:08,777 --> 00:17:13,198 And when you're a really good team, one loss feels like five. 296 00:17:13,282 --> 00:17:16,452 You're just... You're expected to win, you're supposed to win. 297 00:17:16,535 --> 00:17:20,080 And so, early in that season, we were losing games 298 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:22,041 and it felt like trouble. 299 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,208 [buzzer sounds] 300 00:17:23,292 --> 00:17:26,545 [commentator] As time expires, the Phoenix Suns 301 00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:32,176 have hung on for a dramatic victory over the Chicago Bulls. 302 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:40,100 [interviewer] Scottie could've had surgery after the season ended. 303 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:41,060 Yes. 304 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:44,646 [interviewer] He purposely did this late to thumb his nose at management. 305 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:46,565 Were you frustrated by how he handled this? 306 00:17:46,648 --> 00:17:48,358 No, I wasn't. 307 00:17:48,942 --> 00:17:52,237 You have to understand players' mentality and where they're coming from, 308 00:17:52,321 --> 00:17:54,573 and some guys can handle it, some guys can't. 309 00:17:55,115 --> 00:17:58,577 And Scottie probably needed to have this 310 00:17:58,660 --> 00:18:01,121 to feel like he justified what his salary was. 311 00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:05,375 So I stayed solid, said, "We're gonna survive this, we'll be fine. 312 00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:06,543 We'll go forward." 313 00:18:06,627 --> 00:18:10,005 That's one of the things that Phil was really good at, 314 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:13,759 is managing distractions and keeping us focused on what we had to do. 315 00:18:13,842 --> 00:18:15,636 Scottie's on a different timetable. 316 00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:17,429 Gonna be a bumpy road till he gets back, 317 00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:19,723 but we gotta manage without him for right now. 318 00:18:20,307 --> 00:18:23,811 [Smith] When it came down to it, this burden always fell on Michael. 319 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:27,231 And he welcomed it, in a lot of respects. 320 00:18:27,314 --> 00:18:29,691 He liked that. He liked to take the responsibility. 321 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:33,946 I'm gearing myself up physically, to deal with whatever I have to deal with. 322 00:18:34,029 --> 00:18:35,447 I'm looking forward to it, actually. 323 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,577 [Wennington] Michael wanted to be the best player on the best team. 324 00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:45,207 Scottie's not here but we're still better than this. 325 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:48,377 [Jordan] I was trying to get the guys to understand it from my standpoint. 326 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:54,007 Scottie was out. My voice had to be the loudest. 327 00:18:56,218 --> 00:18:59,012 I let my anger motivate the players by saying, 328 00:18:59,096 --> 00:19:01,515 "I want this! Do you guys want it?" 329 00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:04,184 He's raising his voice and calling guys out. 330 00:19:04,268 --> 00:19:06,228 "You gotta rebound better, box out. 331 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:09,314 We're not playing well as a team. Defensively, we're lazy." 332 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:13,235 You know what he does? You sit back and wait. What are you waiting for? 333 00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:14,611 [man] Waiting on the double team. 334 00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:17,739 Why? You play aggressive, they'll come and help you? 335 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:21,493 He's not worried about hurting feelings. If he did, you could leave. 336 00:19:21,577 --> 00:19:25,455 He would gladly tell you, "Get out. We don't need you here. Get out." 337 00:19:25,539 --> 00:19:27,958 Fuckin' Harp, what you waitin' all day for? 338 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:30,752 -You think we can't cope? -[Harper] We got time. 339 00:19:31,628 --> 00:19:33,463 Toni, it's okay. 340 00:19:33,547 --> 00:19:34,756 You know why? 341 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,758 'Cause I got to scream at you all day. 342 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,177 [indistinct chatter] 343 00:19:38,802 --> 00:19:40,846 [Jordan] Every day that Scottie wasn't playing 344 00:19:40,929 --> 00:19:43,223 gave someone else the confidence that they could beat us. 345 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:44,183 Hey! 346 00:19:45,058 --> 00:19:47,686 And if you're trying to maintain dominance over people, 347 00:19:47,769 --> 00:19:50,564 you don't want to give them a chance to gain confidence. 348 00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:55,402 So that drove my energy. Let's get this thing rolling. 349 00:19:55,944 --> 00:19:58,572 Let's go out and get our first win. I ain't gonna say this shit again. 350 00:19:58,655 --> 00:19:59,823 Let's do it. 351 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:02,201 -[man] What time is it? -[all] Game time! [grunt] 352 00:20:03,243 --> 00:20:06,955 [commentator] This Bull team fired up tonight, really wants to get off 353 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,793 this 0-4 start on the road. Embarrassing for such a good team. 354 00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:15,088 The Bulls in their road blacks. The Clippers are home white. 355 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:19,051 They play the Clippers, who were a joke, 356 00:20:19,134 --> 00:20:20,802 the worst team in the league. 357 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:25,265 And yet, the dregs of the league took the Bulls to two overtimes. 358 00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:28,769 Jordan kept waiting for somebody else to help him, 359 00:20:28,852 --> 00:20:30,437 and nobody else would help. 360 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,692 For that game, he went somewhere and he found a switch. 361 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,153 [commentator 1] And the answer to the question, 362 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:39,529 "Is Michael Jordan tired?" 363 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:41,156 -No. -[commentator 2] No. 364 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:45,244 [Aldridge] Jordan had to score 49 for them to win that game. 365 00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:47,579 [commentator 1] No question, we saw greatness here tonight. 366 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:50,666 [commentator 2] The Bulls win for the first time on the road, 111-102. 367 00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:53,502 Jordan finishes with a mere 49 points. 368 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:56,713 We've had opportunities to win, you know, 369 00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:59,258 in all the games on the road except for Cleveland. 370 00:20:59,341 --> 00:21:02,386 Hopefully, we can build upon this. We can finish games on the road. 371 00:21:02,469 --> 00:21:06,223 We've been in those games. And we really needed a win like this. 372 00:21:06,306 --> 00:21:10,310 Jordan was really worn out. Worn out physically, worn out emotionally. 373 00:21:11,395 --> 00:21:14,439 [man] Good job, bro. Way to finish, man. 374 00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:16,566 [Jordan] Did I have a choice? 375 00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:22,364 -Anyway, Michael, hope you like the story. -Thank you. 376 00:21:22,447 --> 00:21:23,740 [indistinct chatter] 377 00:21:25,867 --> 00:21:29,830 [Jordan] My innate personality is to win at all costs. 378 00:21:29,913 --> 00:21:32,040 If I have to do it myself, I'm gonna do it. 379 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,836 Excuse us, please. Excuse us. Excuse us. 380 00:21:36,586 --> 00:21:38,797 [Jordan] Every time I step on that basketball court, 381 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,008 my focus is to win the game. 382 00:21:41,883 --> 00:21:43,135 [man 1] Excuse us, please. 383 00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:45,012 [man 2] Step back. 384 00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:48,223 It drives me insane when I can't. 385 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,641 [people cheering] 386 00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:55,522 [Jordan] As you get older, you look back 387 00:21:55,605 --> 00:21:58,233 and you understand how you became the person you are. 388 00:21:59,192 --> 00:22:01,278 I don't think I would be here without 389 00:22:01,361 --> 00:22:03,697 the lessons that I learned at a very young age. 390 00:22:04,406 --> 00:22:07,951 That competitiveness within me started when I was a kid. 391 00:22:28,889 --> 00:22:30,599 [Jordan] My parents provided us 392 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:33,935 with all the opportunities to succeed in life. 393 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:38,607 My father worked at General Electric. My mother worked at the banks. 394 00:22:39,399 --> 00:22:42,694 As a black person growing up in Wilmington, 395 00:22:42,778 --> 00:22:46,281 we were trying to make our... our own footsteps. 396 00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:50,702 As a family, we were naturally tough. My father was tough, my mom was tough, 397 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:53,914 and the environment they brought us in was a tough environment. 398 00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:56,958 You get knocked down, you gotta get up. 399 00:22:57,042 --> 00:23:00,003 And you always give it your best and you always try to win. 400 00:23:00,629 --> 00:23:02,255 We hated to lose. 401 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,635 Mr. Jordan and myself always tried to share with them, 402 00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:08,970 "Don't wait for somebody to give you something. 403 00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:12,307 You're strong, you're intelligent, go out and earn it and work for it." 404 00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:16,603 We had five kids and both the wife and I, both worked and, uh... 405 00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:19,731 we would worry, at times, about the kids being home 406 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:23,193 so we thought something we could do was get them involved in sports. 407 00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:25,487 Drop them off at the Little League field or the gym 408 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:27,322 and keep 'em involved in the community. 409 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:31,660 [Jordan] My parents were trying to keep me busy. 410 00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:36,498 They always wanted all of us to play organized sports 411 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:39,126 so that we learn more about life. 412 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:43,171 At the time, you had racism all over North Carolina, 413 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,215 all over, you know, the United States. 414 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,467 And there was a lot of it around there. 415 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:52,139 So, as a kid, it was like, "Okay, this is where I don't want to be. 416 00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:54,224 I want to excel outside of this." 417 00:23:54,307 --> 00:23:58,061 So my motivation was to be something outside of Wilmington. 418 00:23:58,145 --> 00:24:01,481 For me, it became athletics. 419 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,569 [Larry] We used to compete an awful lot in the backyard. 420 00:24:05,652 --> 00:24:10,866 My brothers hated losing but not on the same level like me, 421 00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:14,035 because if you beat me back then, we had to fight. 422 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,829 And that's just the way I was. 423 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:18,623 They were so competitive between the two of 'em. 424 00:24:19,332 --> 00:24:22,127 Matter of fact, at that time, it might be said 425 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,337 that Larry was the best basketball player. 426 00:24:24,921 --> 00:24:27,132 My father pushed, he pushed everybody. 427 00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:31,052 And he had the tendency, if he felt you weren't doing the best you could, 428 00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:33,972 he would find a way to push you harder. 429 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:35,765 And that really drove Michael, 430 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:37,726 because Larry was pretty good at quite a bit. 431 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:40,979 I don't think, from a competitive standpoint, 432 00:24:41,062 --> 00:24:44,941 I would be here without the confrontations with my brother. 433 00:24:45,775 --> 00:24:48,528 When you come to blows with someone you absolutely love... 434 00:24:49,446 --> 00:24:51,490 that's igniting every fire within you. 435 00:24:53,074 --> 00:24:56,369 And I always felt like I was fighting Larry for my father's attention. 436 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,039 I'm a do-it-yourselfer around the house. 437 00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:00,707 So, I could take Larry out 438 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,460 and he was fascinated by fixing things with his hands. 439 00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:04,794 Took a lot of pride in it. 440 00:25:04,878 --> 00:25:07,589 Michael would be out, you'd say, "Give me a Phillips screwdriver." 441 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:09,216 He might give you a pair of pliers. 442 00:25:09,299 --> 00:25:11,676 And I guess I was a little short patient with him and I'd say, 443 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,512 "Get back in the house with your mom, boy. 444 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:16,223 You're never going to be anything. Just go back with your mom." 445 00:25:16,723 --> 00:25:18,975 When you're going through it, it's traumatic, 446 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:22,854 because I want that, you know, I want that approval. 447 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:24,356 I want that type of confidence. 448 00:25:24,439 --> 00:25:27,067 So my determination got even greater 449 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,029 to be as good, if not better, than my brother. 450 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:41,790 [Coley] I met him in tryouts, 451 00:25:42,582 --> 00:25:45,669 but there was nothing particularly outstanding in tryouts. 452 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:47,754 He did not make the varsity team 453 00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:49,673 as a sophomore. 454 00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:52,801 [Jordan] When I got home and I told my mother I was cut, 455 00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:55,720 I was demoralized, I didn't want to play any more sports. 456 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:57,931 I felt like the coach didn't like me. 457 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,143 He was devastated. He came home upset, crying. 458 00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:06,231 And we both cried, 'cause I knew he wanted to really compete with the other guys. 459 00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:11,903 My words to him was, "If you really want it, you work hard over the summer." 460 00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:14,197 And he did that summer. 461 00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:19,286 He focused, he would practice all day. That basketball never left his hand. 462 00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:21,246 If you wanna bring out the best in Michael, 463 00:26:21,329 --> 00:26:22,581 tell him he can't do something. 464 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:25,375 Or he can't do it as good as somebody else and, uh, 465 00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:29,254 I think that he takes it as a personal challenge to go out and do it, 466 00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:30,547 just to prove you wrong. 467 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:36,052 Mike's improvement from his sophomore year to his junior year was tremendous. 468 00:26:36,136 --> 00:26:38,513 A lot of it had to do with his size. 469 00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:42,809 He was about 5'10" or 5'11". He came back about 6'3" that fall. 470 00:26:43,476 --> 00:26:45,687 [Lynch] He had great guard skills. He always played guard. 471 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:47,314 He always handled the ball. 472 00:26:47,397 --> 00:26:49,482 And now becoming, you know, 6'3", 6'4", 473 00:26:50,317 --> 00:26:52,777 that just made him into a much better ball player. 474 00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:56,740 We knew that he was special. 475 00:26:58,325 --> 00:27:01,536 The athletic director of Hanover County Schools called us and said, 476 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,289 "I've got a guy down here I think may have a chance." 477 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:06,207 And that was Mike Jordan. 478 00:27:07,167 --> 00:27:10,128 And so we invited him to our basketball camp. 479 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:15,133 When he got here, we knew of him, we'd heard he's pretty good. 480 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Five days later, when he left, we thought he was the best player in America. 481 00:27:46,122 --> 00:27:48,625 [Jordan] It was the third game of the season in the second season. 482 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:52,629 We're playing Golden State. I go up for a lob... 483 00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:54,673 [commentator] Bulls on the run to Michael Jordan... 484 00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:57,801 ...and when I landed, I landed flat-footed. 485 00:27:57,884 --> 00:28:00,428 [commentator] Looks like Michael came out limping a little bit. 486 00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:03,973 He's a little ginger on that ankle. He had hurt it a little earlier. 487 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:09,270 When they did the CAT scan, it was a clear break, and... 488 00:28:10,021 --> 00:28:11,022 I was done. 489 00:28:12,148 --> 00:28:14,067 Last year's Rookie of the Year Michael Jordan 490 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:15,568 out with a broken left foot. 491 00:28:18,613 --> 00:28:20,865 [Jordan] I was devastated because I never got hurt. 492 00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:24,494 I'm in a cast. I couldn't do anything. I was anxious. 493 00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:27,747 I'm pretty sure I was irritable to a lot of people. 494 00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:31,876 [Hefferon] He broke this bone, right in the middle. 495 00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:34,504 It's an area of the body 496 00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:38,967 that may not heal very rapidly because of the poor blood supply. 497 00:28:40,468 --> 00:28:44,264 The healing time can vary from six weeks, 12 weeks or even longer. 498 00:28:44,347 --> 00:28:46,933 And occasionally, that fracture does not heal. 499 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:50,437 [Telander] Michael had never missed a game, through high school, 500 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,815 college and the NBA, so far. 501 00:28:54,357 --> 00:28:56,151 All of a sudden, he misses 64. 502 00:28:56,776 --> 00:28:59,988 [Jordan] I'm doing nothing, watching games, sitting on the bench. 503 00:29:00,488 --> 00:29:02,741 My mother and father came up and spent a lot of time. 504 00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:06,286 [Deloris] You could not keep him on that bench. 505 00:29:06,369 --> 00:29:10,039 Mr. Jordan and myself is saying, "Michael, you are not ready." 506 00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:14,127 He said, "I don't think you can tell me. I know when my body's ready." 507 00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:15,795 "The doctor knows when you're ready." 508 00:29:17,046 --> 00:29:19,048 [Jordan] I was itching to do something. 509 00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:21,968 So... 510 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,971 I talked the Bulls into letting me go back to college. 511 00:29:26,723 --> 00:29:29,267 I just started going to the gym, shooting. 512 00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:31,561 Then I started playing one-on-one, 513 00:29:31,644 --> 00:29:34,814 and then I started playing two-on-two, then I started playing three-on-three. 514 00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:38,359 Next, I was playing five-on-five, and the Bulls never knew I was doing it. 515 00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:42,572 And when I got back with the Bulls... 516 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:50,997 my calf muscles in my injured calf were stronger than my uninjured calf. 517 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,500 So the first thing they said, "What the hell you been doing? 518 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:54,626 Blah blah blah." 519 00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:57,629 No, we didn't really know he was playing until he came back and told us. 520 00:29:57,712 --> 00:29:59,005 When Michael came back, he said, 521 00:29:59,088 --> 00:30:01,549 "I've been playing an hour and a half a day for the last week." 522 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,176 And after my heart dropped out, 523 00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:05,303 [chuckles] I just dropped down and, oh, my God. 524 00:30:05,386 --> 00:30:09,390 I gradually worked my way up to a point where I'm playing five-on-five in a game. 525 00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:14,270 And I got the confidence that the foot is completely healed and I can play on it. 526 00:30:14,354 --> 00:30:19,609 Michael asked, "If I play, what percentage is there that I'm gonna get hurt again?" 527 00:30:19,692 --> 00:30:21,569 Doctor said, "10%." 528 00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:24,864 And I just lost it. I said, "Look, it's 10% chance, 529 00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:27,200 but it's 90% chance that I won't." 530 00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:29,744 And then I chimed in to the doctors, 531 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,163 "What happens if the 10% kicks in?" 532 00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:34,582 And they said, "Then his career would be over." 533 00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,001 Well, everybody's just thinking about the negative. 534 00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:40,922 While I think the glass is half full, everybody's thinking it's half empty. 535 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:45,677 So, I said to Michael, "You're not understanding the risk-reward ratio. 536 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,306 If you had a terrible headache and I gave you a bottle of pills, 537 00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:54,018 and nine of the pills would cure you and one of the pills would kill you, 538 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:56,271 would you take a pill?" 539 00:30:57,021 --> 00:31:00,233 I look at him and I said, "Depends on how fucking bad the headache is." 540 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:02,777 From Jerry Reinsdorf's perspective, 541 00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:06,447 a pure business decision, you don't play the guy. 542 00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,868 Here's your franchise. Literally, your franchise. 543 00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:12,954 In my mind, he should not risk coming back 544 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,915 because we weren't winning a championship anyway. 545 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:19,043 Why even take a 10% risk that your career is going to be over? 546 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:20,336 He didn't see it that way. 547 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:24,507 I'm starting to think, "Well, maybe it's not me playing, 548 00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:26,509 as opposed to us trying to lose games 549 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:28,428 so we can move into the lottery." 550 00:31:28,511 --> 00:31:30,305 [reporter 1] Is there something to this business 551 00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:32,348 of wanting a better position? Getting in the lottery? 552 00:31:32,432 --> 00:31:34,809 I hope not. That just shows a losing attitude 553 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,104 and not just on the team, but in the front office also. 554 00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:40,189 We should always go out and try to win. 555 00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:42,650 [reporter 2] Exasperated Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf 556 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,527 finally agreed to a compromise 557 00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,112 which would allow his star to play 558 00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:48,573 a specified number of minutes in each game. 559 00:31:48,656 --> 00:31:51,409 We reached a compromise and we allowed him to come back 560 00:31:51,492 --> 00:31:53,244 and play seven minutes each half. 561 00:31:53,328 --> 00:31:54,954 So they let me go back and play, 562 00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,165 and then they put a time restriction on me. 563 00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:01,210 [commentator] Jordan with ten points in limited playing time. 564 00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:05,256 [Telander] They had him on seven minute per half time limit, with a stopwatch. 565 00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:07,842 -[whistle blows] -[commentator] Short. 566 00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:11,304 That counts for Michael! 567 00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:15,224 He could be almost in mid-shot, it's like... tweet. 568 00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:16,351 [buzzer sounds] 569 00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:18,645 "Jordan, you're out." 570 00:32:18,728 --> 00:32:20,772 [commentator 1] Michael Jordan sat down. 571 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:25,568 [commentator 2] He doesn't seem happy. He's fired up and ready to go. [chuckles] 572 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,403 They're gonna have to hold him back. 573 00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:31,074 [reporter] What was the rationale for the seven minutes per half? 574 00:32:31,157 --> 00:32:35,203 Well, we felt that the doctors had said a certain amount of time. 575 00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:38,539 We felt we were gonna try to make the odds right 576 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:40,875 in a situation where we would reduce the odds. 577 00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:43,878 [Jordan] At the time, the coach was Stan Albeck. 578 00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:47,090 So, I said, "Stan, fuck these guys, man. 579 00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:50,885 Give me the most important seven minutes that you can think about." 580 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:55,765 So, now we start winning and we start getting into the playoff picture. 581 00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:58,977 We get to a pivotal game. 582 00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:02,271 We go and play Indiana in Indiana. 583 00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:06,150 We need this game because it puts us in a position to make the playoffs. 584 00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:11,447 Stan got berated, saying, "If you put him in one second 585 00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:14,117 more than 14 minutes, you're fired on the spot." 586 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,160 [commentator] Jordan around an Oakley screen, 587 00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:17,870 lean-in jumper, left baseline, is in... 588 00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:21,833 [Jordan] For 14 minutes, I just go absolutely ballistic. 589 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:24,627 And we were in a position to win. 590 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:26,921 [commentator] On the drive, in from the left, 591 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:29,382 Eighteen-footer good. Bulls have the lead... 592 00:33:29,465 --> 00:33:32,635 Outside, Richardson, right side, Fleming, 20-footer, good! 593 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:34,887 [whistle blows] 594 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,599 Thirty-one seconds left. The Bulls take time. Down one... 595 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:41,102 All of a sudden, my time is up. 596 00:33:41,185 --> 00:33:43,688 I don't know if Jerry came down from the stands to say, 597 00:33:43,771 --> 00:33:46,566 "Get him out of the game." There's, like, 30 seconds left. 598 00:33:46,649 --> 00:33:48,443 [commentator] Thirty-one seconds to go. 599 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:51,029 Michael's time is up. 600 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:53,281 [Jordan] I'm just like... I'm angry. 601 00:33:53,364 --> 00:33:56,409 [commentator] What a sensational performance... 602 00:33:56,492 --> 00:33:58,369 [Vancil] Michael saw it for what it was. 603 00:33:59,495 --> 00:34:01,956 You play the game to win. Period. 604 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:04,876 "I don't want to hear about your draft pick. 605 00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:07,128 I don't want to hear about missing the playoffs 606 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:08,463 and how good that would be. 607 00:34:09,005 --> 00:34:10,631 That's not how you play the game." 608 00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:13,593 I'm begging Stan, "Put me in the game. 609 00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:17,472 Come on, there's only 14 fuckin' seconds, Stan... 13 seconds. 610 00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,140 Put me in for 13 seconds." 611 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,559 He said, "MJ, I can't put you in. I'll lose my job." 612 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:24,395 It fueled the whole theory that, 613 00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,481 here, we're trying to not make the playoffs 614 00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:27,940 so we can get a better draft pick. 615 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:30,568 But I vowed to make the playoffs every year, 616 00:34:30,651 --> 00:34:32,862 and this is a chance for us to make the playoffs. 617 00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,284 It's our ball, there's 13 seconds left. 618 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,123 Lo and behold, John Paxson hits a game-winning shot. 619 00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:47,043 [commentator] Pax comes down with a jumping one-hander... 620 00:34:47,126 --> 00:34:49,712 Fortunately, I get lucky and throw some shot in 621 00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:51,380 and we end up winning the game. 622 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:55,468 [commentator] The Bulls win it! The Bulls hang on and win by one! 623 00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:58,721 What a big victory by the Bulls! 624 00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:01,015 [Paxson] We went into the locker room... 625 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:03,935 Stan locked that door. 626 00:35:04,018 --> 00:35:07,188 And Jerry Krause came, wanting to get in at the end of the game 627 00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:08,731 and Stan wouldn't let him in. [chuckles] 628 00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:09,816 You know, it was... 629 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:10,942 It was... 630 00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:14,695 It wasn't a good... It wasn't a good situation. 631 00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:19,075 [Vancil] The mistrust Michael had with management, 632 00:35:19,158 --> 00:35:20,910 specifically with Jerry Krause, 633 00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:26,666 was he believed that they violated the most fundamental aspect of sport, 634 00:35:26,749 --> 00:35:29,460 of, I would argue, the most fundamental aspect 635 00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:31,462 of the way Michael conducted his life. 636 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:35,383 You do it at the highest level and you do it to win, all the time. 637 00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:38,386 From that moment on, 638 00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:43,766 Michael's relationship with the ownership and management was deeply soured. 639 00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:45,935 That never went away. 640 00:35:47,562 --> 00:35:51,274 [reporter] No one could limit the power and the glory of Michael Jordan. 641 00:35:51,357 --> 00:35:54,569 The Bulls made a late-season rush into a playoff berth, 642 00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:56,654 which, ironically, cost them a chance 643 00:35:56,737 --> 00:35:59,490 at one of the first seven choices in next year's draft. 644 00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:01,159 We end up making the playoffs having a-- 645 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:03,661 I believe we won only 30 games in the regular season that year. 646 00:36:03,744 --> 00:36:04,829 We end up the eighth seed. 647 00:36:04,912 --> 00:36:10,293 Jordan essentially wills his team, with a losing record, into the playoffs. 648 00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,003 And what is their reward? 649 00:36:12,086 --> 00:36:15,006 Well, they get to play the almighty Boston Celtics 650 00:36:15,631 --> 00:36:18,009 with four guys who'd make the Hall of Fame. 651 00:36:19,385 --> 00:36:23,806 [Bird] We had Parish, McHale and Walton. 652 00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:29,020 All of 'em were about seven foot tall, that could score, run, defend. 653 00:36:29,103 --> 00:36:32,732 We had Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, our guards, and I was a small forward. 654 00:36:32,815 --> 00:36:36,652 So, we had a big team, and, uh, we were deep, we were big, 655 00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:40,323 and of all the teams I've been on, there's no question, that was the best team. 656 00:36:40,406 --> 00:36:42,658 That setting, against that team... 657 00:36:43,242 --> 00:36:45,786 That's what you play for, you get to be in those situations. 658 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,955 [commentator] The Celtics have won 31 in a row at home. 659 00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:52,043 They beat Chicago six times this year in the regular season. 660 00:36:52,126 --> 00:36:55,338 Michael had this supreme confidence about him. 661 00:36:55,421 --> 00:36:56,839 He loved the big stage. 662 00:36:56,923 --> 00:37:00,134 [Jordan] This is the opportunity to play against Larry Bird and the Celtics. 663 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,053 Man, this is showtime. 664 00:37:02,136 --> 00:37:04,555 Well, Michael was coming off a pretty serious injury 665 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,098 and we didn't know what to expect. 666 00:37:06,182 --> 00:37:09,143 Michael Jordan is back and there are no limits to his playing time. 667 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,187 He's really ready to cut loose. 668 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,481 [commentator 1] We're ready to go at the Boston Garden. 669 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,651 They took all the limitations off and it was like unleashing 670 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,444 a wild dog. 671 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:21,322 [commentator 1] Jordan hangs in the air, puts it down. 672 00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:24,158 Jordan, shot it from the baseline. 673 00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:27,411 Jordan changed it in midair. Got it, nonetheless. 674 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:31,290 Our whole thing was just, "Do what we can do to hold Michael down." 675 00:37:31,791 --> 00:37:33,417 But you don't hold the great ones down. 676 00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:37,171 [commentator 1] Michael Jordan wheels, fades, off-balance... 677 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,965 Absolutely amazing! 678 00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:40,758 Jordan beats Dennis. 679 00:37:42,009 --> 00:37:44,971 Carlisle has the unenviable task of playing Jordan. 680 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:47,473 Isn't that something? 681 00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:51,352 [commentator 2] I mean, Carlisle just wants his mommy. [chuckles] 682 00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:55,982 Jordan with great anticipation. He's off to the races. 683 00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:57,316 Watch this! Whoo-hoo! 684 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:01,237 We had a lot of guys in our league that could score a lot of points. 685 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,446 He took it to another level. 686 00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:05,866 We stuck with the game plan, and we end up winning the ball game. 687 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,869 [commentator 1] McHale, Bird, Parish... And a foul... 688 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:11,163 There's the Celtics. 689 00:38:15,209 --> 00:38:16,752 Who's your player of the game, John? 690 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:18,671 [commentator 2] Hard to ignore Jordan tonight. 691 00:38:18,754 --> 00:38:20,339 We chose him as our player of the game. 692 00:38:20,423 --> 00:38:22,633 Forty-nine points, four rebounds. 693 00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:25,303 A spectacular individual effort by this guy. 694 00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:28,389 Tough job for the Chicago team now and for Stan Albeck, 695 00:38:28,472 --> 00:38:30,016 trying to get 'em ready for game two. 696 00:38:30,099 --> 00:38:31,559 They played so hard here tonight. 697 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:34,895 I remember game two. I'd played golf with Michael the day before. 698 00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:41,235 It was Michael, Danny, Mike Carey and myself. 699 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,238 And Michael and Danny are giving it to each other back and forth. 700 00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:48,242 [interviewer] Before game two, you played golf with Danny Ainge. 701 00:38:48,743 --> 00:38:49,785 Mmm-hmm. 702 00:38:52,538 --> 00:38:53,539 Get through. 703 00:38:54,206 --> 00:38:56,042 I cannot hit it today. 704 00:38:56,876 --> 00:39:00,880 I took a few bucks off of Michael that day and we're talking trash to each other. 705 00:39:00,963 --> 00:39:02,798 That might have been a mistake. [chuckles] 706 00:39:05,217 --> 00:39:06,218 [Jordan] Get it out. 707 00:39:08,929 --> 00:39:10,598 Pissing me off, man. 708 00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:14,310 We get done, we get in the car, we drop Danny off first. 709 00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:16,520 And, uh, Michael says, 710 00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:19,190 "Tell your boy DJ I got something for him tomorrow." 711 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,028 [Bird] The first game, the guy scores 49... 712 00:39:25,279 --> 00:39:27,239 but I don't think anyone expected, 713 00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:29,241 going into the next game, what was going to happen. 714 00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:31,452 ["I'm Bad" playing] 715 00:39:34,121 --> 00:39:36,165 ♪ No rapper can rap quite like I can ♪ 716 00:39:36,248 --> 00:39:38,793 ♪ I'll take a musclebound man And put his face in the sand ♪ 717 00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,962 ♪ Not the last Mafioso, I'm a MC cop ♪ 718 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:45,132 ♪ Make you say "Go LL" And do the wop ♪ 719 00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:47,301 [Bird] He was scoring at will. Dunks, bankers. 720 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,178 He'd get in the middle and shoot over guys. 721 00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:52,348 ♪ Trendsetter, I'm better My rhymes are good ♪ 722 00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:55,476 ♪ I got a gold nameplate that says "I wish you would" ♪ 723 00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:58,270 [Jordan] I played practically every minute in the second game. 724 00:39:58,354 --> 00:39:59,271 I just never stopped. 725 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:01,565 [commentator] On the switch. Bird guards Jordan. 726 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:03,025 Jordan hits the jumper anyway. 727 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:05,861 [Jordan] Stan Albeck kept putting me in isolated situations 728 00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:08,781 and I just took advantage of my youth and my energy. 729 00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:11,242 [commentator] Jordan uses his quickness and it works. 730 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:14,328 Jordan with 31. Bullseye. 731 00:40:14,787 --> 00:40:20,167 Jordan against Ainge, spins into the lane, scoops the shot up and draws the foul. 732 00:40:21,043 --> 00:40:23,796 We all took our cracks at him that day. It wasn't one guy. 733 00:40:23,879 --> 00:40:26,257 DJ was our best defensive player, 734 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:30,010 and he picked up four fouls early in the third quarter. 735 00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:32,847 [commentator] Four fouls on Johnson. Welcome to the club. 736 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:36,392 I was on him for a while, Danny was on him, DJ was on him a lot. 737 00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:39,186 [Ainge] I remember laughing in the middle of the game 738 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:42,440 because Walton was cursing me out 739 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,359 because he had to guard Jordan on a few occasions. 740 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:48,154 [commentator] Walton with five. Next foul and he's gone... 741 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,197 -Jordan isolated one-on-one... -[whistle blows] 742 00:40:50,906 --> 00:40:51,740 Basket... 743 00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:52,908 [Ainge] Walton fouled out. 744 00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:56,579 [commentator] Jordan has shot 18 free throws and made 16. 745 00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:59,123 ♪ I eliminate punks Cut 'em up in chunks ♪ 746 00:40:59,206 --> 00:41:01,834 ♪ You were souped, you heard me And your ego shrunk ♪ 747 00:41:01,917 --> 00:41:04,545 ♪ I'm devastating I'm so good it's a shame ♪ 748 00:41:04,628 --> 00:41:07,214 ♪ Cause I eat rappers like a cannibal They call me insane ♪ 749 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,842 ♪ I'm as strong as a bull Of course you know why I pull ♪ 750 00:41:09,925 --> 00:41:11,886 ♪ I enjoy what I'm doing... ♪ 751 00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:13,387 [commentator] Oh, my! 752 00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,306 48 for Michael Jordan. 753 00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:24,815 You liked 49 on Thursday. How about 50 on Sunday? 754 00:41:24,899 --> 00:41:26,400 Pull-up shot on Parish, good. 755 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:27,776 Fifty-two for Jordan... 756 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:31,030 Michael, right base-line jumper... good! And a foul called. 757 00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:34,408 Michael shooting for the tie with no time left. 758 00:41:36,452 --> 00:41:38,787 Overtime in Boston Garden! 759 00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:40,623 Jordan hits it. Fifty-six for Jordan. 760 00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:45,461 Sixty-one points to tie all-time single-game playoff record... 761 00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:47,671 Got it! Sixty-three for Jordan! 762 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:50,966 A new NBA record has been set in the Boston Garden. 763 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:52,635 [Bird] It was a high-scoring game. 764 00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:55,012 Fortunately for us, we had the last shot. 765 00:41:56,013 --> 00:41:57,806 [commentator] Bird, pick and roll to Parish. 766 00:41:58,766 --> 00:41:59,767 [crowd cheering] 767 00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:03,896 [commentator] And a hard-fought victory for the Boston Celtics 768 00:42:03,979 --> 00:42:05,397 to take a 2-0 lead. 769 00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:09,026 We were fortunate to win that game, but Michael put on a show. 770 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:11,153 [commentator] Our Miller Lite most valuable player 771 00:42:11,237 --> 00:42:12,905 of the game is Michael Jordan, 772 00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:17,409 with an all-time record 63 points in a single playoff game. 773 00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:18,911 [Bird] We end up winning the series, 774 00:42:18,994 --> 00:42:22,331 but it was an incredible, incredible playoff performance. 775 00:42:22,414 --> 00:42:26,043 I've never seen it before and I had never seen it after. 776 00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:29,463 That wasn't Michael Jordan out there. That was God disguised as Michael Jordan. 777 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:35,344 Nobody like him. [laughs] 778 00:42:35,427 --> 00:42:37,721 Point blank. I never seen nobody play like he plays, 779 00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:40,849 and, uh, you can include all of 'em. 780 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:44,937 Jordan is the most talented player in the NBA... 781 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,190 uh, by far. 782 00:42:48,274 --> 00:42:50,693 Guys like myself and Larry, who knew the game, 783 00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:53,279 who knew championship basketball, 784 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:55,990 we knew the guy was coming. Right? 785 00:42:56,073 --> 00:42:59,660 He just needed the right horses to go along with him. 786 00:43:00,953 --> 00:43:02,997 [Reinsdorf] We realized that Michael Jordan 787 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,291 was the greatest ball player in the NBA. 788 00:43:05,916 --> 00:43:09,253 So, a year later, we basically rebuilt the entire team. 789 00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:11,046 Krause went to work. 790 00:43:12,131 --> 00:43:15,551 We added some great people like Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen. 791 00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:19,054 We changed the makeup of the team. 792 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:25,728 [Paxson] I will always give Jerry Krause credit for assembling a roster that fit. 793 00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:29,398 I'm sure one of the hardest trades he ever had to make 794 00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:32,109 was trading Charles Oakley to New York for Bill Cartwright. 795 00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,946 We needed a big man. So, Bill was a great fit. 796 00:43:36,864 --> 00:43:38,032 As much as I love Charles, 797 00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:40,743 this fits us better than what Charles gives us right now. 798 00:43:41,243 --> 00:43:44,121 Michael was very fond of Charles 'cause Charles was his protector. 799 00:43:44,204 --> 00:43:47,082 Mike was always attacking the basket and he got knocked down a lot, 800 00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:49,209 and Charles was always the guy to back him up. 801 00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,879 [commentator] Oakley going right after "Hot Rod" Williams. 802 00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:54,923 [Paxson] When Krause pulled the trigger on that trade, 803 00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:57,676 that was probably one of the defining things in his career. 804 00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:00,262 [Jordan] Charles Oakley and I were good friends. 805 00:44:00,346 --> 00:44:02,139 We'd spent a lot of time together. 806 00:44:02,222 --> 00:44:06,268 But things were in place for us to win, you know, when he left. 807 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:09,188 [Kerr] Jerry did a phenomenal job with the team. 808 00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:12,691 He made great trades, made great free agent signings. 809 00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:14,234 He deserves a lot of credit. 810 00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:16,403 But he couldn't get out of his own way. 811 00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:38,384 Scottie had problems with Jerry and, um, 812 00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:41,178 it came out on several occasions. 813 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:45,265 The thing was-- And part of, you know, Scottie's anger, 814 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:48,185 was they did look into seriously trading him 815 00:44:48,268 --> 00:44:50,562 after the '96-'97 season. 816 00:44:50,646 --> 00:44:52,231 Anybody can be traded 817 00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:54,525 and part of my responsibility 818 00:44:54,608 --> 00:44:57,861 is to listen to other teams when they talk to me about our players. 819 00:44:58,654 --> 00:45:00,906 And we think Scottie Pippen is certainly, 820 00:45:00,989 --> 00:45:02,991 one of the top couple of players in basketball, 821 00:45:03,075 --> 00:45:04,493 and feel very strongly about him. 822 00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:07,287 And I can't tell you what's gonna happen in the future, 823 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:08,330 because I don't know. 824 00:45:10,999 --> 00:45:15,045 [Smith] Krause's point then was, "Look, we're gonna lose Pippen in a year. 825 00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,089 The group doesn't have that much left. 826 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,425 Let's blow it up now." 827 00:45:19,508 --> 00:45:20,968 But ownership said no. 828 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:24,138 [Reinsdorf] But I killed that because I decided that 829 00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:26,974 as long as Michael Jordan was still gonna be here, 830 00:45:27,057 --> 00:45:28,726 we gotta go for the sixth championship. 831 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:32,187 [reporter] Jerry, how close did you come to dealing Scottie Pippen? 832 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:35,524 Well, we had a number of offers 833 00:45:36,358 --> 00:45:41,655 we thought were good offers for Scottie and for some of our other players. 834 00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:44,575 I'm never going to stop being aggressive, 835 00:45:44,658 --> 00:45:48,162 and I will never stop trying to do things to make the team better. 836 00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:50,789 That really is what sort of... 837 00:45:52,458 --> 00:45:55,419 tarnished my relationship with Jerry. 838 00:45:56,336 --> 00:45:59,631 He tried to make me feel so special, 839 00:46:00,632 --> 00:46:06,430 but yet, he was still, like, willing to trade and do all that stuff, 840 00:46:06,513 --> 00:46:10,100 but never would tell me to my face. 841 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,437 After you're in the game for a while, 842 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,565 you realize that nobody is untradeable, 843 00:46:17,357 --> 00:46:19,943 but I felt insulted. 844 00:46:20,986 --> 00:46:26,658 I sort of took the attitude of disrespecting him to some degree. 845 00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:32,623 [Wennington] There was always barbs going back and forth, 846 00:46:32,706 --> 00:46:35,250 but at a certain point, Scottie crossed a line. 847 00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:39,546 I mean, it was getting... personal. 848 00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:45,511 Pippen started abusing Krause openly, cursing him out on the bus. 849 00:46:45,594 --> 00:46:49,431 Couldn't tolerate him anymore. Didn't respect him. 850 00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:54,353 I remember some shots coming from the back of the bus. 851 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,481 Raise your eyebrows, you know. 852 00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:04,238 Pippen started berating Jerry Krause... 853 00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:06,824 in front of the team. 854 00:47:07,574 --> 00:47:12,746 We had to say, "Hey, let's hold it down." You know? 855 00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:15,999 But that's when it was, like, "Hey, there's a divide here." 856 00:47:16,083 --> 00:47:20,462 It's not your normal... I mean, there's some hard feelings. 857 00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:22,256 "You don't appreciate me. 858 00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,508 You're trying to trade me. You won't pay me. 859 00:47:24,591 --> 00:47:27,761 Well, screw you. I'm taking care of myself now." 860 00:47:29,054 --> 00:47:33,225 [Pippen] I was at that point where I felt like I needed to do what was best for me. 861 00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:37,396 I felt like it was time for me to go shopping. 862 00:47:37,479 --> 00:47:40,190 Pippen is now demanding a trade and he says 863 00:47:40,274 --> 00:47:43,861 he will not return from the injured list until he is gone from Chicago. 864 00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:46,363 He said he's never gonna play for the Bulls ever again. 865 00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:48,448 "I'm never gonna wear this uniform ever again." 866 00:47:48,532 --> 00:47:51,368 [reporter] Should the Bulls do something that would make you want to stay? 867 00:47:52,077 --> 00:47:55,622 I mean, no. I don't... I don't see myself carrying on. 868 00:47:56,832 --> 00:47:59,626 Scottie made some earth-shattering comments last night 869 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,588 to one of the Chicago writers, about wanting to be traded. 870 00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:06,008 -Can we get your thoughts on that? -I don't really have any right now. 871 00:48:06,592 --> 00:48:09,720 I felt like Scottie was being selfish. 872 00:48:09,803 --> 00:48:12,222 Worrying about himself as opposed to 873 00:48:12,306 --> 00:48:15,851 what his word was to the organization as well as to the team. 874 00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:20,063 [Pippen] I'm done here, you know what I'm saying? 875 00:48:21,064 --> 00:48:24,359 You've already written my script out that this is it. 876 00:48:25,485 --> 00:48:27,988 So, I had to do what was best for me. 78137

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