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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,094 --> 00:00:09,227 This week on "VICE": 2 00:00:09,329 --> 00:00:12,530 The effects of America's growing heroin epidemic. 3 00:00:12,632 --> 00:00:15,767 Woman: Unfortunately, with this epidemic you have to throw out 4 00:00:15,869 --> 00:00:19,937 what you thought addiction was, what you thought an addict was. 5 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:29,180 And then the next nuclear arms race. 6 00:00:29,282 --> 00:00:31,916 Man: Dive! Dive! Dive! 7 00:00:32,018 --> 00:00:35,987 It's a pretty surreal feeling to come up on a ballistic missile submarine. 8 00:00:36,089 --> 00:00:37,922 It looks like a giant steel whale. 9 00:00:38,024 --> 00:00:41,225 Man: We are restarting a nuclear arms race, 10 00:00:41,327 --> 00:00:44,061 and our public is blissfully unaware of that. 11 00:00:45,064 --> 00:00:55,622 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 12 00:00:56,910 --> 00:00:59,677 Crowd: Hands up! Don't shoot! Hands up! 13 00:01:07,687 --> 00:01:09,387 Today the United States is in the middle 14 00:01:09,489 --> 00:01:11,689 of the worst drug crisis in our history. 15 00:01:11,791 --> 00:01:14,625 Overdoses and deaths are at an all-time high. 16 00:01:14,727 --> 00:01:19,363 Now, this epidemic involves scores of new and powerful pharmaceutical drugs, 17 00:01:19,465 --> 00:01:23,801 but at the center of it is one of the oldest: Heroin. 18 00:01:38,518 --> 00:01:41,152 Morning. We're in Guerrero, Mexico... 19 00:01:43,423 --> 00:01:46,157 at the source of America's heroin problem. 20 00:01:52,198 --> 00:01:53,664 Ah... 21 00:01:53,766 --> 00:01:56,267 There they are. 22 00:01:56,369 --> 00:01:59,770 So, all these little flowers in here will be harvested for opium, 23 00:01:59,873 --> 00:02:01,873 which will then be turned into heroin 24 00:02:01,975 --> 00:02:04,242 and shipped up north. 25 00:02:04,344 --> 00:02:07,278 But right now, they're just pretty flowers. 26 00:02:41,247 --> 00:02:42,747 These are the scorers. 27 00:02:42,849 --> 00:02:45,049 So you cut the pod? 28 00:02:45,151 --> 00:02:46,317 Sí. 29 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,786 Sí. 30 00:02:52,992 --> 00:02:54,558 Well, what do you do now? 31 00:03:13,846 --> 00:03:15,546 Who buys it? Who's the buyer? 32 00:03:21,921 --> 00:03:24,422 Forty-three is responding. 33 00:03:28,394 --> 00:03:29,860 Upstairs to the right. 34 00:03:33,166 --> 00:03:36,100 Sweetheart, let me get in there and check a pulse. Okay? 35 00:03:36,202 --> 00:03:37,702 When did you find him? 36 00:03:39,038 --> 00:03:40,237 Okay, he took a breath. 37 00:03:40,340 --> 00:03:42,406 Go ahead and get the Ambu bag out. 38 00:03:42,508 --> 00:03:44,809 Okay, drag him out in the hallway. 39 00:03:44,911 --> 00:03:45,943 Okay. 40 00:03:47,847 --> 00:03:49,280 Is he a known addict? 41 00:03:51,718 --> 00:03:54,552 Okay. Can you get some Narcan? 42 00:03:54,654 --> 00:03:56,721 I can get him nasally real quick. 43 00:04:07,233 --> 00:04:10,067 Mickey? Hey, Buddy! 44 00:04:11,871 --> 00:04:13,838 He's coming back. 45 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:15,039 Mickey? 46 00:04:21,681 --> 00:04:24,582 We've had this gentleman multiple times in the last couple weeks. 47 00:04:24,684 --> 00:04:27,985 He'll probably wake up en route to the hospital completely. 48 00:04:28,087 --> 00:04:32,156 But it's very common that we have repeat overdoses. 49 00:04:35,561 --> 00:04:37,828 Heroin is definitively back in America. 50 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:39,830 Over the last decade, the number of addicts 51 00:04:39,932 --> 00:04:41,465 nationwide has more than doubled, 52 00:04:41,567 --> 00:04:43,367 and the overdose rate is four to five times 53 00:04:43,469 --> 00:04:44,902 what it was in the 1970s, 54 00:04:45,004 --> 00:04:47,271 which was basically the heroin decade. 55 00:04:47,373 --> 00:04:49,273 The epicenter of this new wave of junkie-dom 56 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:51,942 is not the urban centers of New York or Baltimore. 57 00:04:52,045 --> 00:04:53,878 It's in the hills of West Virginia, 58 00:04:53,980 --> 00:04:55,980 smack in the middle of Appalachia. 59 00:04:56,082 --> 00:05:00,384 We are a microcosm of everything that has happened across the country, 60 00:05:00,486 --> 00:05:02,787 but it's just so focused right here. 61 00:05:02,889 --> 00:05:05,322 We knew that we had to step up our efforts 62 00:05:05,425 --> 00:05:07,058 from a law enforcement standpoint. 63 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,326 What we're trying to do is clean things up 64 00:05:09,429 --> 00:05:12,830 to get back to the glory that we once knew. 65 00:05:12,932 --> 00:05:14,165 Morton: Right now, at least 66 00:05:14,267 --> 00:05:15,966 according to what statistics are available, 67 00:05:16,069 --> 00:05:18,169 Huntington is the worst hit city in the state. 68 00:05:18,271 --> 00:05:19,904 In order to fight the problem, the mayor here 69 00:05:20,006 --> 00:05:21,872 has assembled an office of drug control policy. 70 00:05:21,974 --> 00:05:25,743 Essentially modeling it after the country's drug czar, 71 00:05:25,845 --> 00:05:30,014 which is, you know, kind of a crazy thing for a town of 50,000 people to need, 72 00:05:30,116 --> 00:05:33,551 but in light of the fact they're averaging three overdoses a day, 73 00:05:33,653 --> 00:05:37,354 I guess you sort of have to find a way to fight crazy with some form of crazy. 74 00:05:38,424 --> 00:05:40,558 One of this town drug czar's best resources 75 00:05:40,660 --> 00:05:44,161 is Scott Lemley, a young "Moneyball" sort of kid from the police department, 76 00:05:44,263 --> 00:05:46,764 trying to use statistics to get a grasp on the problem. 77 00:05:46,866 --> 00:05:49,066 How do the numbers here work? Like, what's... 78 00:05:49,168 --> 00:05:52,002 Basically, all the overdose deaths we've had in the county, 79 00:05:52,105 --> 00:05:53,838 they've all been opiate related. 80 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:56,040 If you look at the city of Huntington, 81 00:05:56,142 --> 00:05:57,842 we have a death rate, 82 00:05:57,944 --> 00:05:59,777 119 per 100,000. 83 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:01,946 National average is 13. 84 00:06:02,048 --> 00:06:05,516 So we're about 11 times the national average. 85 00:06:05,618 --> 00:06:10,087 Do you have figures about the socioeconomic background of the people who are dying? 86 00:06:10,189 --> 00:06:12,890 We've had overdoses in the best neighborhoods in Huntington. 87 00:06:12,992 --> 00:06:15,292 We've had overdoses in the worst. 88 00:06:15,394 --> 00:06:19,063 It's across the board, it really is. 89 00:06:19,165 --> 00:06:20,631 Morton: Jan Rader, a trained nurse 90 00:06:20,733 --> 00:06:22,733 and deputy chief of the Huntington fire department, 91 00:06:22,835 --> 00:06:24,395 as well as the woman who we just watched 92 00:06:24,437 --> 00:06:25,870 save an overdose victim, 93 00:06:25,972 --> 00:06:27,972 is also part of the drug task force. 94 00:06:28,074 --> 00:06:30,674 It's sad when you can drive around the city 95 00:06:30,776 --> 00:06:35,913 and you remember places by who overdosed and died. 96 00:06:37,583 --> 00:06:41,552 Unfortunately, with this epidemic, you have to throw out, you know, 97 00:06:41,654 --> 00:06:43,521 what you thought addiction was, 98 00:06:43,623 --> 00:06:45,523 what you thought an addict was. 99 00:06:50,062 --> 00:06:55,266 You know, I don't think the medical field realized what they were creating 100 00:06:55,368 --> 00:06:57,468 when this wonderful pain medicine, 101 00:06:57,570 --> 00:06:59,370 synthetic opiates, was invented. 102 00:06:59,472 --> 00:07:02,940 Morton: What's crazy is, all this new smack and pill addiction 103 00:07:03,042 --> 00:07:07,845 can essentially be traced to one specific opiate and its maker: OxyContin, 104 00:07:07,947 --> 00:07:12,049 released to the public by Purdue Pharmaceuticals in 1996. 105 00:07:12,151 --> 00:07:14,952 OxyContin is extended release oxycodone. 106 00:07:15,054 --> 00:07:17,688 That's a very good drug to prescribe to someone 107 00:07:17,790 --> 00:07:21,192 with cancer pain, at the end of life. 108 00:07:21,294 --> 00:07:23,194 Morton: Dr. Andrew Kolodny has been studying 109 00:07:23,296 --> 00:07:25,763 the skyrocketing rates of heroin addiction across the country 110 00:07:25,865 --> 00:07:27,898 from its beginning in prescription pills. 111 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,567 The way you get a blockbuster drug 112 00:07:29,669 --> 00:07:33,871 is by getting doctors to prescribe it for things like low back pain. 113 00:07:33,973 --> 00:07:37,274 And if it's a drug that is very difficult to stop taking, 114 00:07:37,376 --> 00:07:39,243 then you've got the magic formula. 115 00:07:39,345 --> 00:07:41,745 Morton: Purdue campaigned heavily throughout the '90s 116 00:07:41,847 --> 00:07:43,814 to convince doctors that not only was OxyContin 117 00:07:43,916 --> 00:07:45,683 safe to prescribe for chronic pain, 118 00:07:45,785 --> 00:07:47,218 but that opiates in general, 119 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,919 the drug class that includes OxyContin, 120 00:07:49,021 --> 00:07:51,522 as well as morphine, Dilaudid, and heroin, 121 00:07:51,624 --> 00:07:53,123 were far less addictive 122 00:07:53,226 --> 00:07:55,359 than all previous medical science had shown. 123 00:07:55,461 --> 00:07:59,163 Now, in fact, the rate of addiction 124 00:07:59,265 --> 00:08:02,166 amongst pain patients who are treated by doctors 125 00:08:02,268 --> 00:08:03,834 is much less than one percent. 126 00:08:03,936 --> 00:08:06,470 The statistic that was used over and over again 127 00:08:06,572 --> 00:08:08,872 was much less than one percent of patients would get addicted. 128 00:08:08,975 --> 00:08:12,543 But what you would find is that what everybody was citing 129 00:08:12,645 --> 00:08:14,979 wasn't actually a journal article. 130 00:08:15,081 --> 00:08:18,015 It was a one-paragraph letter to the editor. 131 00:08:18,117 --> 00:08:20,417 And yet, that's what was used as evidence 132 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:24,622 and cited hundreds of times by experts in the field 133 00:08:24,724 --> 00:08:26,690 as proof that we shouldn't be worried 134 00:08:26,792 --> 00:08:28,525 about getting our patients addicted. 135 00:08:28,628 --> 00:08:30,394 Something you have to understand 136 00:08:30,496 --> 00:08:32,997 is that when when we talk about opioid pain medicine, 137 00:08:33,099 --> 00:08:37,101 we're essentially talking about heroin pills. 138 00:08:37,203 --> 00:08:40,638 From the beginning of the opioid addiction epidemic, 139 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:43,007 the young people who were opioid-addicted 140 00:08:43,109 --> 00:08:46,176 who were having trouble getting enough pills from doctors, 141 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:47,845 would go to the black market, 142 00:08:47,947 --> 00:08:49,627 and if they were in a region of the country 143 00:08:49,715 --> 00:08:51,982 where heroin was available, they switched. 144 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,054 Morton: Can I ask you how you started using? 145 00:09:02,995 --> 00:09:05,663 Had you ever touched heroin before that or...? 146 00:09:05,765 --> 00:09:07,064 Why'd you switch? 147 00:09:08,934 --> 00:09:10,167 Ah. 148 00:09:29,055 --> 00:09:31,588 Morton: What's particularly insidious about opiate addiction 149 00:09:31,691 --> 00:09:33,824 is how quickly the body develops a tolerance, 150 00:09:33,926 --> 00:09:37,494 requiring increasing amounts of the drug just to generate the same effect, 151 00:09:37,596 --> 00:09:40,831 which, obviously, also increases the chance of accidental overdose. 152 00:09:40,933 --> 00:09:42,633 Morton: You're making these big lines. 153 00:09:42,735 --> 00:09:46,270 If you had just started, like, how big a... 154 00:09:46,372 --> 00:09:47,972 how big of a bump are you doing? Okay. 155 00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:09,226 Morton: While pill makers like Purdue teed up all this madness, 156 00:10:09,328 --> 00:10:11,829 at the very least, their product was regulated. 157 00:10:11,931 --> 00:10:13,764 If you took an 80mg OxyContin, 158 00:10:13,866 --> 00:10:16,033 you knew exactly how much oxy you were taking. 159 00:10:16,135 --> 00:10:17,334 This is not the case with heroin, 160 00:10:17,436 --> 00:10:19,169 whose strength can vary from batch to batch, 161 00:10:19,271 --> 00:10:20,704 and even bag to bag. 162 00:10:20,806 --> 00:10:22,673 On top of that, heroin has to be cut, 163 00:10:22,775 --> 00:10:25,409 because pure heroin alone would kill even a veteran junkie. 164 00:10:25,511 --> 00:10:28,312 But what it's cut with is anybody's guess. 165 00:10:35,321 --> 00:10:36,353 Yeah. 166 00:10:41,660 --> 00:10:44,194 And how much could you sell it for if you cut it? 167 00:10:50,035 --> 00:10:52,770 Are those... What are those? Are those movie tickets? 168 00:10:52,872 --> 00:10:54,438 Oh, lottery tickets. 169 00:11:03,182 --> 00:11:04,815 So, what do you cut it with? Is that... 170 00:11:06,952 --> 00:11:08,519 No. Okay. 171 00:11:12,124 --> 00:11:13,190 Mm-hmm. 172 00:11:14,827 --> 00:11:17,227 When you say pills, do you use painkiller pills? 173 00:11:21,934 --> 00:11:24,535 Well, it's basically the same thing as heroin, isn't it? Right. 174 00:11:24,637 --> 00:11:26,937 Morton: The strongest cutting agent of all is fentanyl, 175 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:29,773 which is the strongest opioid painkiller in existence, 176 00:11:29,875 --> 00:11:32,643 up to 50 times the strength of pure heroin. 177 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,359 Do you know anybody who cuts with fentanyl? 178 00:11:42,121 --> 00:11:43,187 Yeah? 179 00:11:50,396 --> 00:11:51,428 Really? 180 00:11:52,731 --> 00:11:54,898 They were intentionally trying to get someone to overdose. 181 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,033 Yes. Okay. 182 00:11:56,135 --> 00:11:58,001 Morton: Accidental overdoses have long served 183 00:11:58,103 --> 00:12:00,737 as a perverse form of advertising for heroin dealers. 184 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,774 But the fact that they're using pharmaceutical drugs to induce them 185 00:12:03,876 --> 00:12:07,211 shows just how extreme the demand has grown. 186 00:12:07,313 --> 00:12:10,614 So now the heroin epidemic that the OxyContin epidemic started, 187 00:12:10,716 --> 00:12:14,117 has itself turned into a fentanyl epidemic. 188 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,487 They didn't understand why they're cutting heroin with fentanyl, 189 00:12:16,589 --> 00:12:18,222 because fentanyl is really expensive. 190 00:12:18,324 --> 00:12:19,523 And I kind of have this idea 191 00:12:19,625 --> 00:12:21,091 that they're not cutting heroin with fentanyl. 192 00:12:21,193 --> 00:12:22,793 They're cutting the fentanyl with heroin. 193 00:12:22,895 --> 00:12:26,129 Morton: With an increasingly toxic, and seemingly inexhaustible 194 00:12:26,232 --> 00:12:28,232 supply of heroin entering the country, 195 00:12:28,334 --> 00:12:30,334 the government has finally started making overtures 196 00:12:30,436 --> 00:12:33,670 towards addressing the problem on the demand side. 197 00:12:33,772 --> 00:12:39,142 More Americans now die every year from drug overdoses 198 00:12:39,245 --> 00:12:43,113 than they do from motor vehicle crashes. 199 00:12:43,215 --> 00:12:45,255 Morton: President Obama has come to Charleston today 200 00:12:45,351 --> 00:12:46,551 to address the heroin problem. 201 00:12:46,652 --> 00:12:48,252 But there's an ironic note in the fact 202 00:12:48,354 --> 00:12:50,687 that this is a crisis that started in 2007, 203 00:12:50,789 --> 00:12:52,356 before the Obama presidency, 204 00:12:52,458 --> 00:12:55,058 and it's taken till the second-to-last year of his administration 205 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,294 to address a problem that's been in plain sight 206 00:12:57,396 --> 00:13:00,330 down here for over eight years. 207 00:13:00,432 --> 00:13:02,592 Obama: I've made this a priority for my administration. 208 00:13:02,635 --> 00:13:04,835 With no other disease do we expect people to wait 209 00:13:04,937 --> 00:13:06,670 until they're a danger to themselves 210 00:13:06,772 --> 00:13:08,906 to self-diagnose and seek treatment. 211 00:13:09,008 --> 00:13:10,741 You understand that here in West Virginia. 212 00:13:10,843 --> 00:13:14,945 We want to make sure the whole country understands how urgent this problem is. 213 00:13:22,788 --> 00:13:25,889 One big part of the problem with the opiate crisis in West Virginia 214 00:13:25,991 --> 00:13:29,560 is they've... this is basically their first time dealing with it. 215 00:13:29,662 --> 00:13:32,062 This is actually a big part of a larger problem 216 00:13:32,164 --> 00:13:34,565 with America's response to drug problems. 217 00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:36,633 It's just general inexperience with addiction, 218 00:13:36,735 --> 00:13:39,903 like what it means to be an addict, why people behave the way they do 219 00:13:40,005 --> 00:13:43,941 when they're hooked on heroin or OxyContin or other opioids. 220 00:13:45,511 --> 00:13:48,151 Mickey, the addict who overdosed at the very beginning of our piece, 221 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:49,680 he survived, thankfully, 222 00:13:49,782 --> 00:13:51,381 and was lucky to find a bed 223 00:13:51,483 --> 00:13:53,317 at a treatment facility here in Huntington. 224 00:13:54,787 --> 00:13:56,620 What's up? What's going on, bro? 225 00:13:58,591 --> 00:14:01,091 Morton: Now, you've been here before, though, right? You were telling me. 226 00:14:01,193 --> 00:14:02,492 Mickey: Yeah, the first time I was in here, 227 00:14:02,595 --> 00:14:04,995 I just wanted that damn judge off my back. 228 00:14:05,097 --> 00:14:07,864 The second time I came in, I just... 229 00:14:07,967 --> 00:14:09,399 needed to learn how to manage, 230 00:14:09,501 --> 00:14:11,835 to get back to where I was able to use and still work, 231 00:14:11,937 --> 00:14:13,303 and pay bills and all that shit. 232 00:14:13,405 --> 00:14:15,005 Yeah. And, yeah, it don't work that way. 233 00:14:15,107 --> 00:14:17,474 That's like trying to be, like, a social drinker for alcoholics. 234 00:14:17,576 --> 00:14:20,077 Yeah. I was trying... Yeah, I failed miserably. 235 00:14:20,179 --> 00:14:21,545 That's when I met you guys. 236 00:14:22,881 --> 00:14:25,115 Morton: How many times had you overdosed before that? 237 00:14:25,217 --> 00:14:26,283 Mickey: About seven. 238 00:14:26,385 --> 00:14:27,818 I mean, I've overdosed a bunch more than that, 239 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,786 but seven of them, I had to go to the hospital for. 240 00:14:29,888 --> 00:14:30,988 Right. Okay. 241 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:32,823 I woke up with everything from hoses down my throat, 242 00:14:32,925 --> 00:14:35,125 to adrenaline shots, to Narcan. 243 00:14:35,227 --> 00:14:38,128 All: God, grant us the serenity 244 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:40,797 to accept the things we cannot change... 245 00:14:40,899 --> 00:14:43,400 Hell, I've lived on the streets, riverbanks, and tents, 246 00:14:43,502 --> 00:14:44,901 spent winters out there. 247 00:14:45,004 --> 00:14:47,604 I mean, it's... You would think it'd be enough 248 00:14:47,706 --> 00:14:50,474 just to make a person want to stop and change, 249 00:14:50,576 --> 00:14:52,876 but, fuck, it didn't stop me. 250 00:14:54,580 --> 00:14:57,981 Most people come in here to get a life that they've had prior to here. 251 00:14:58,083 --> 00:15:01,752 I never had one. It's like learning to walk again. 252 00:15:01,854 --> 00:15:04,921 I mean, if this was easy, everybody would do it and quit. 253 00:15:05,024 --> 00:15:07,424 Right. Right. Drug dealers would be out of business. 254 00:15:08,627 --> 00:15:11,428 It ain't that easy. 255 00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:13,897 There are some alarming new numbers out from the CDC 256 00:15:13,999 --> 00:15:17,034 showing a dramatic rise in the heroin epidemic in this country. 257 00:15:17,136 --> 00:15:19,736 Anchorman: Today the state of Washington set a new record. 258 00:15:19,838 --> 00:15:21,238 For the fifth year in a row 259 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:23,073 the number of heroin overdoses went up. 260 00:15:23,175 --> 00:15:25,876 Overdose deaths skyrocketed in Ohio last year. 261 00:15:25,978 --> 00:15:28,412 Kolodny: This is a problem we're going to be dealing with 262 00:15:28,514 --> 00:15:30,113 for the rest of our lives. 263 00:15:30,215 --> 00:15:33,316 What you're hearing is, we cracked down on painkillers 264 00:15:33,419 --> 00:15:36,787 and everybody switched over to heroin. 265 00:15:36,889 --> 00:15:39,723 There hasn't been a crackdown on painkillers. 266 00:15:39,825 --> 00:15:44,728 There's still massive over-prescribing of opioids. 267 00:15:44,830 --> 00:15:47,931 Every state in the country has within it counties 268 00:15:48,033 --> 00:15:51,968 that are feeling the effects of this epidemic. 269 00:15:52,071 --> 00:15:57,307 This is the worst drug addiction epidemic in United States history. 270 00:15:59,411 --> 00:16:01,344 Decades after the end of the Cold War, 271 00:16:01,447 --> 00:16:06,083 America's now rebuilding our aging nuclear arsenal. 272 00:16:06,185 --> 00:16:09,720 Now, the Pentagon wants to spend hundreds of billions of dollars 273 00:16:09,822 --> 00:16:12,956 on new warheads and new vehicles to carry them. 274 00:16:13,058 --> 00:16:15,358 But this effort isn't just expensive, 275 00:16:15,461 --> 00:16:18,528 it could actually be a threat to our global security. 276 00:16:34,346 --> 00:16:36,546 Man: As you can see, it's kind of tradition for a lot of people, 277 00:16:36,648 --> 00:16:38,848 once they spend their time working in the missile field, 278 00:16:38,917 --> 00:16:40,484 they'll kind of write their name, 279 00:16:40,586 --> 00:16:44,654 and put in a time frame of how many years they spent out here. 280 00:16:44,757 --> 00:16:46,990 We're at about 60 to 80 feet below ground. 281 00:16:48,460 --> 00:16:49,893 So this is the first blast door, 282 00:16:49,995 --> 00:16:52,763 to protect measures of, you know, before you get the capsule, 283 00:16:52,865 --> 00:16:56,032 who also has another blast door, too. 284 00:16:56,135 --> 00:16:57,501 And the purpose of this is... 285 00:16:57,603 --> 00:16:59,970 Pretty much to sustain the equipment down here so nothing... 286 00:17:00,072 --> 00:17:01,371 In the case of a nuclear attack? 287 00:17:01,473 --> 00:17:02,706 Exactly. Exactly. 288 00:17:07,412 --> 00:17:10,480 Larsen: This command capsule can launch a nuclear missile strike 289 00:17:10,582 --> 00:17:12,783 against any target on the planet. 290 00:17:12,885 --> 00:17:17,220 The officers here pull 24-hour shifts called "alerts." 291 00:17:17,322 --> 00:17:19,823 During that period, they're responsible for ten 292 00:17:19,925 --> 00:17:24,828 of the 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, 293 00:17:24,930 --> 00:17:28,899 buried at three bases around the American West. 294 00:17:29,001 --> 00:17:31,701 So we're having a little party down here in the capsule today? 295 00:17:31,804 --> 00:17:32,969 Uh, it seems like. 296 00:17:33,071 --> 00:17:35,005 It's my 100 alert, 297 00:17:35,107 --> 00:17:39,876 so Lieutenant Busbee surprised me with a cookie cake. 298 00:17:39,978 --> 00:17:42,879 Larsen: One hundred alerts means 2,400 hours 299 00:17:42,981 --> 00:17:45,882 locked in a bunker no bigger than a family van, 300 00:17:45,984 --> 00:17:47,884 which may seem like a long time, 301 00:17:47,986 --> 00:17:51,121 but there have been officers on continuous alert in here 302 00:17:51,223 --> 00:17:53,256 since 1963. 303 00:17:53,358 --> 00:17:55,759 It might be super old, 304 00:17:55,861 --> 00:17:57,994 but it's still reliable 305 00:17:58,096 --> 00:18:00,730 and it still gets the mission done. 306 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:02,866 Do you guys ever have the feeling like, 307 00:18:02,968 --> 00:18:04,734 "Hey, we practice these things all the time, 308 00:18:04,837 --> 00:18:06,970 "but we never actually use them"? 309 00:18:07,072 --> 00:18:08,505 We use these every day. 310 00:18:08,607 --> 00:18:10,473 The mission is deterrence. 311 00:18:10,576 --> 00:18:14,878 And part of deterrence is being capable of doing it. 312 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:19,416 So if the president wants to actually launch, 313 00:18:19,518 --> 00:18:20,951 we are ready to go. 314 00:18:23,989 --> 00:18:25,722 Push door open. 315 00:18:25,824 --> 00:18:29,459 Three, two, one, mark. 316 00:18:29,561 --> 00:18:31,962 Larsen: Many people thought that when the Cold War ended, 317 00:18:32,064 --> 00:18:34,231 these weapons would go away too, 318 00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:35,765 but they never did. 319 00:18:35,868 --> 00:18:39,469 And the Air Force tests them regularly at a secure base in California 320 00:18:39,571 --> 00:18:42,072 to show the world that they still work. 321 00:18:42,174 --> 00:18:43,773 At a launch in late February, 322 00:18:43,876 --> 00:18:47,110 Pentagon leadership was on hand to make sure. 323 00:18:47,212 --> 00:18:49,112 Even though these systems are getting old, 324 00:18:49,214 --> 00:18:53,416 anyone who is a nuclear power is sure to be watching these tests 325 00:18:53,518 --> 00:18:55,819 and has to be at least aware 326 00:18:55,921 --> 00:18:59,756 that the United States nuclear deterrent is as strong as it has ever been. 327 00:18:59,858 --> 00:19:02,926 Larsen: The next morning, we sat down with Deputy Secretary Work 328 00:19:03,028 --> 00:19:05,028 to ask him why he thinks it's still important 329 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:06,897 to have nuclear weapons at all. 330 00:19:06,999 --> 00:19:09,232 The president, your boss, has said 331 00:19:09,334 --> 00:19:11,735 he'd like to see a world without nuclear weapons. 332 00:19:11,837 --> 00:19:14,504 How does that play into the current modernization program? 333 00:19:14,606 --> 00:19:19,342 Well, what the president says, in addition to wanting to get rid of nuclear weapons, 334 00:19:19,444 --> 00:19:21,711 he says as long as we have them, 335 00:19:21,813 --> 00:19:24,681 they are going to be safe, secure, and effective. 336 00:19:24,783 --> 00:19:27,851 So he recognizes very clearly, 337 00:19:27,953 --> 00:19:31,221 that as long as adversaries or potential rivals or countries 338 00:19:31,323 --> 00:19:33,189 have nuclear weapons, we're going to have them too. 339 00:19:33,292 --> 00:19:35,859 So as long as that is our national policy, 340 00:19:35,961 --> 00:19:37,460 we will recapitalize them. 341 00:19:37,562 --> 00:19:41,464 Larsen: The United States still controls a massive nuclear arsenal 342 00:19:41,566 --> 00:19:43,967 powerful enough to end the world as we know it. 343 00:19:44,069 --> 00:19:46,836 It's made up of what's called the nuclear triad: 344 00:19:46,939 --> 00:19:48,805 Land-based ICBMS, 345 00:19:48,907 --> 00:19:50,573 gravity bombs and cruise missiles 346 00:19:50,676 --> 00:19:52,275 dropped from long-range bombers, 347 00:19:52,377 --> 00:19:54,177 and missiles launched from submarines 348 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:55,845 that hide in the ocean. 349 00:19:55,948 --> 00:19:57,714 Now, the military wants to spend 350 00:19:57,816 --> 00:19:59,482 as much as a trillion dollars 351 00:19:59,584 --> 00:20:01,551 to modernize all of it. 352 00:20:01,653 --> 00:20:03,586 And that's ignited an intense debate 353 00:20:03,689 --> 00:20:06,056 about whether we should be spending so much 354 00:20:06,158 --> 00:20:08,591 on weapons we'll likely never use. 355 00:20:08,694 --> 00:20:10,894 We spend more money on nuclear weapons 356 00:20:10,996 --> 00:20:13,563 than all other countries combined. 357 00:20:13,665 --> 00:20:15,966 This is the epitome of overkill. 358 00:20:16,068 --> 00:20:18,201 Let's start the year by putting to rest the notion 359 00:20:18,303 --> 00:20:20,704 that our nuclear deterrent is unaffordable. 360 00:20:20,806 --> 00:20:22,539 That's just ridiculous. 361 00:20:22,641 --> 00:20:25,008 Larsen: At the top of the Pentagon's wish list 362 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:27,911 is a new fleet of nuclear-armed submarines. 363 00:20:28,013 --> 00:20:33,383 We traveled to an undisclosed location off the southern coast to see why. 364 00:20:34,953 --> 00:20:36,152 Larsen: It's a pretty surreal feeling 365 00:20:36,254 --> 00:20:37,821 to be in the middle of the ocean 366 00:20:37,923 --> 00:20:40,924 and to come up on a ballistic missile submarine. 367 00:20:41,026 --> 00:20:42,726 It looks like a giant steel whale. 368 00:20:42,828 --> 00:20:44,894 This is the USS Wyoming. 369 00:20:44,997 --> 00:20:47,831 Beneath these hatches are underwater launch missiles 370 00:20:47,933 --> 00:20:51,167 that together carry seven times the total firepower 371 00:20:51,269 --> 00:20:54,170 unleashed during World War II. 372 00:20:54,272 --> 00:20:57,841 Cue the launch of the 1C dive, dive. Two blasts to dive alarm. Dive, dive. 373 00:20:57,943 --> 00:21:02,979 Dive! Dive! 374 00:21:03,081 --> 00:21:05,382 Establish launch conditions. This is the captain. 375 00:21:05,484 --> 00:21:06,916 This is an exercise. 376 00:21:07,019 --> 00:21:08,818 Boat is XO, target package ID. 377 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,354 Whiskey, Yankee, Oscar has been directed. 378 00:21:11,456 --> 00:21:15,158 Larsen: The crew simulates launching a nuclear strike several times a day. 379 00:21:15,260 --> 00:21:17,894 Obtain the launch key. Obtain the launch key. Aye, sir. 380 00:21:17,996 --> 00:21:21,164 Why do you drill this component of the mission so often? 381 00:21:21,266 --> 00:21:24,601 The nation as a whole is depending on us to be able to deliver 382 00:21:24,703 --> 00:21:26,636 whenever the president tasks us. 383 00:21:26,738 --> 00:21:30,140 Any time of day, any time of night. We cannot fail. 384 00:21:30,242 --> 00:21:32,075 Fourteen, aweigh. 385 00:21:32,177 --> 00:21:34,511 Fourteen, aweigh. 386 00:21:34,613 --> 00:21:37,180 Larsen: That urgency is one of the Navy's major justifications 387 00:21:37,282 --> 00:21:40,283 for replacing these submarines with new ones. 388 00:21:40,385 --> 00:21:45,822 The core function here is to keep these 24 missile tubes up and running at all times. 389 00:21:45,924 --> 00:21:47,490 But the equipment that runs them, 390 00:21:47,592 --> 00:21:49,025 and much of the rest of the ship 391 00:21:49,127 --> 00:21:52,028 is getting too old to be reliable. 392 00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:54,130 This is like 1970s technology. 393 00:21:54,232 --> 00:21:58,735 The size of it, which you see in an old movie, you know, in a warehouse. 394 00:21:58,837 --> 00:22:02,605 So the upgrade for the Ohio replacement will take this room 395 00:22:02,707 --> 00:22:07,544 and could probably put it into basically a laptop-size computer. 396 00:22:07,646 --> 00:22:10,780 And then the hardware that's made to run this 397 00:22:10,882 --> 00:22:13,550 is so out of date that it costs the government more money 398 00:22:13,652 --> 00:22:15,952 to have someone actually go back in and build that, 399 00:22:16,054 --> 00:22:17,921 and to be able to repair some of that stuff, so... 400 00:22:18,023 --> 00:22:19,789 Space is very vital on a submarine, 401 00:22:19,891 --> 00:22:23,493 so every single big cabinet that we have is taking away space from the crew. 402 00:22:25,764 --> 00:22:28,631 This is a nine-man bunk room. Okay. 403 00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:29,699 Right here next to the missiles? 404 00:22:29,801 --> 00:22:32,001 Next to the missiles. We sleep with them. 405 00:22:33,672 --> 00:22:36,639 What's it like to sleep between missile tubes? 406 00:22:36,741 --> 00:22:38,741 It feels kind of odd sleeping, 407 00:22:38,844 --> 00:22:40,710 you know, on a weapon of mass destruction, 408 00:22:40,812 --> 00:22:42,879 but, you know, you get used to it, I guess. 409 00:22:42,981 --> 00:22:44,314 It comes with the job. 410 00:22:44,416 --> 00:22:46,716 Larsen: If the Navy gets its way and we do buy new submarines, 411 00:22:46,818 --> 00:22:51,488 the first one is projected to cost at least 8.8 billion dollars. 412 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:56,025 And the eleven subsequent ships would cost more than five billion dollars apiece. 413 00:22:56,128 --> 00:23:00,296 And that's just one part of the nuclear modernization shopping spree. 414 00:23:00,398 --> 00:23:02,899 The Air Force released more details about its plans 415 00:23:03,001 --> 00:23:04,868 for a new long-range strike bomber. 416 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:07,070 Larsen: A brand-new fleet of B-21 bombers, 417 00:23:07,172 --> 00:23:09,339 to replace the B-2 and other models, 418 00:23:09,441 --> 00:23:12,609 could cost more than 100 billion dollars. 419 00:23:12,711 --> 00:23:15,578 Stephen Schwartz is a nuclear weapons analyst 420 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,048 who says all this spending is getting out of control. 421 00:23:19,151 --> 00:23:21,684 We're actually spending more today 422 00:23:21,786 --> 00:23:24,020 to maintain and sustain 423 00:23:24,122 --> 00:23:25,955 and modernize our nuclear arsenal 424 00:23:26,057 --> 00:23:29,159 than we spent on average during the Cold War 425 00:23:29,261 --> 00:23:31,327 when we were building new nuclear weapons 426 00:23:31,429 --> 00:23:33,363 and testing them on a regular basis. 427 00:23:33,465 --> 00:23:34,831 That's just incredible. 428 00:23:34,933 --> 00:23:36,733 Do you ever step outside your job and be like, 429 00:23:36,835 --> 00:23:42,405 "This is crazy. We've built the world's most expensive, elite, 430 00:23:42,507 --> 00:23:45,808 practice football team that we hope never plays a game"? 431 00:23:45,911 --> 00:23:48,411 Right. Well, the people on the other side will say, 432 00:23:48,513 --> 00:23:50,580 "We use nuclear weapons every day." I'm sure you've heard that. 433 00:23:50,682 --> 00:23:52,482 You know, the other argument they'll say is, 434 00:23:52,584 --> 00:23:54,584 "Well, obviously, all this stuff worked. 435 00:23:54,686 --> 00:23:56,586 "Okay, we spent trillions of dollars. 436 00:23:56,688 --> 00:23:58,788 We built all these weapons. We're still here." 437 00:23:58,890 --> 00:24:02,659 That's a myth. That's probably the number one myth of the Cold War. 438 00:24:02,761 --> 00:24:04,294 We could've done it with a lot less. 439 00:24:04,396 --> 00:24:06,196 How much? I don't know. But we didn't need it all. 440 00:24:06,298 --> 00:24:07,697 We definitely didn't need it all. 441 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,033 Larsen: But even though our arsenal was huge, 442 00:24:10,135 --> 00:24:11,701 it followed a certain logic. 443 00:24:11,803 --> 00:24:14,070 The weapons were so big and so destructive 444 00:24:14,172 --> 00:24:18,908 that both sides knew they would never be used. 445 00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:21,678 But now that we're modernizing, we're building a new weapon 446 00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:23,746 that's moving us in the opposite direction. 447 00:24:26,184 --> 00:24:28,451 At the National Security Campus in Kansas City, 448 00:24:28,553 --> 00:24:32,188 technicians are working on a polarizing new project. 449 00:24:32,290 --> 00:24:34,591 Behind me is a trainer model 450 00:24:34,693 --> 00:24:37,360 of the B61-12 gravity bomb. 451 00:24:37,462 --> 00:24:41,064 This weapon itself has become very controversial 452 00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:45,868 because of its ability to target more accurately and to be smaller. 453 00:24:45,971 --> 00:24:48,871 The explosive yield of the B61-12 454 00:24:48,974 --> 00:24:52,242 can be throttled down to .3 kilotons, 455 00:24:52,344 --> 00:24:54,244 a thousand times less powerful 456 00:24:54,346 --> 00:24:56,813 than the warhead on our current ICBMs. 457 00:24:56,915 --> 00:24:58,915 And a new tailfin allows it 458 00:24:59,017 --> 00:25:00,850 to be guided directly to its target, 459 00:25:00,952 --> 00:25:04,220 giving it accuracy that our nuclear bombs have never had. 460 00:25:04,322 --> 00:25:06,289 Taken together, those traits could 461 00:25:06,391 --> 00:25:08,258 make these weapons more usable 462 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,093 in the minds of American commanders. 463 00:25:10,195 --> 00:25:13,863 Dr. William Perry was in charge of America's nukes 464 00:25:13,965 --> 00:25:16,599 as our 19th Secretary of Defense. 465 00:25:16,701 --> 00:25:19,702 It's hard to argue there's anything wrong 466 00:25:19,804 --> 00:25:22,538 with having lower yields or more accuracies. 467 00:25:22,641 --> 00:25:23,706 But in fact, there is. 468 00:25:23,808 --> 00:25:25,608 We can devise tactical situations 469 00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:27,377 in which we might want to use it. 470 00:25:27,479 --> 00:25:31,547 The problem is, those tactical situations 471 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:33,349 are a snare and a delusion 472 00:25:33,451 --> 00:25:35,885 because they lead us into believing 473 00:25:35,987 --> 00:25:38,721 we can use nuclear weapons at lower levels of danger 474 00:25:38,823 --> 00:25:42,358 that would not lead to a full-scale attack on the United States, 475 00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:45,194 that would not lead to a full-scale nuclear war. 476 00:25:45,297 --> 00:25:47,797 That's a very, very dangerous assumption. 477 00:25:47,899 --> 00:25:51,734 Larsen: At the age of 88, Perry's now the leading voice 478 00:25:51,836 --> 00:25:55,138 warning that we're in increasing danger of a nuclear disaster. 479 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,673 The threat is real. 480 00:25:56,775 --> 00:26:00,143 In a sense, we are living on borrowed time. 481 00:26:00,245 --> 00:26:03,579 Larsen: Which is all the more striking because during the Cold War, 482 00:26:03,682 --> 00:26:06,983 he helped build up our nuclear force to what it is today. 483 00:26:07,085 --> 00:26:09,652 I've devoted a lot of my career helping to build this deterrence 484 00:26:09,754 --> 00:26:11,421 because I believed it was important. 485 00:26:11,523 --> 00:26:13,289 Even as I did that, 486 00:26:13,391 --> 00:26:15,558 I understood that it was a dangerous situation, 487 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:18,428 that we should be looking for some way out of the trap. 488 00:26:18,530 --> 00:26:20,063 I did not see any way out of it 489 00:26:20,165 --> 00:26:22,432 when there was a Soviet Union that was hostile. 490 00:26:22,534 --> 00:26:25,535 But when the Cold War ended, that opened up the possibility 491 00:26:25,637 --> 00:26:27,203 of moving away from deterrence. 492 00:26:27,305 --> 00:26:29,739 And we did start moving away for the first few years, 493 00:26:29,841 --> 00:26:32,475 but now we're falling back into the deterrence trap. 494 00:26:32,577 --> 00:26:36,713 Are we in danger of a new nuclear escalation though? 495 00:26:36,815 --> 00:26:39,682 Yes, we are, already, in a sense, 496 00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:41,818 restarting the nuclear arms race. 497 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,486 Even more dangerously, 498 00:26:43,588 --> 00:26:45,922 we're on the threshold of starting a new Cold War. 499 00:26:46,024 --> 00:26:48,825 Larsen: That's because the more we modernize, 500 00:26:48,927 --> 00:26:53,029 the harder it is to convince countries like China, North Korea, or Russia 501 00:26:53,131 --> 00:26:55,798 not to ratchet up their own nuclear programs. 502 00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:57,467 Anchorman: A key question tonight: 503 00:26:57,569 --> 00:27:01,204 How will Russia respond to America's enhanced nuclear bombs? 504 00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:12,215 Larsen: When President Obama hosted a nuclear security summit in March of this year, 505 00:27:12,317 --> 00:27:15,885 Russia refused to attend. 506 00:27:15,987 --> 00:27:19,489 At the same time, Russia is building new submarines and missiles, 507 00:27:19,591 --> 00:27:22,959 and they're warning that they may be forced to use them. 508 00:27:32,537 --> 00:27:36,339 The Russians have used terms about nuclear weapons 509 00:27:36,441 --> 00:27:38,741 that we view as extremely destabilizing. 510 00:27:38,843 --> 00:27:41,878 This is stuff we haven't heard since the Cold War, literally. 511 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,513 And the Russians have said, 512 00:27:43,615 --> 00:27:46,382 "Look, we'll go to nuclear weapons early. 513 00:27:46,484 --> 00:27:48,851 We will escalate to deescalate." 514 00:27:48,953 --> 00:27:52,288 Once you start up the escalatory ladder with a nuclear weapon, 515 00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:55,057 you don't know where you're going to end up. 516 00:27:56,361 --> 00:27:58,728 Are we living in dangerous nuclear times? 517 00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:01,063 I believe... 518 00:28:01,166 --> 00:28:04,233 that the likelihood of a nuclear catastrophe today 519 00:28:04,335 --> 00:28:06,636 is greater than it was during the Cold War. 520 00:28:06,738 --> 00:28:10,173 And our public is blissfully unaware of that. 521 00:28:10,275 --> 00:28:13,543 Is there any way out of this? 522 00:28:13,645 --> 00:28:15,711 Maybe not, but I hope so. 523 00:28:15,814 --> 00:28:17,680 The first thing we have to do is don't make it worse. 524 00:28:17,782 --> 00:28:21,083 If we go ahead with the complete remodernization of the force today, 525 00:28:21,186 --> 00:28:23,619 we're just digging the hole deeper. 526 00:28:23,721 --> 00:28:25,888 Sooner or later, we've got to get out of it. 527 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:27,757 It's not going to be soon, 528 00:28:27,859 --> 00:28:29,579 but we ought to be moving in that direction, 529 00:28:29,627 --> 00:28:31,561 not in the wrong direction. 530 00:28:31,663 --> 00:28:42,198 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 43165

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