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This week on "VICE":
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The effects of America's
growing heroin epidemic.
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Woman: Unfortunately, with this
epidemic you have to throw out
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what you thought addiction was,
what you thought an addict was.
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And then the next nuclear arms race.
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Man:
Dive! Dive! Dive!
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It's a pretty surreal feeling to come
up on a ballistic missile submarine.
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It looks like a giant steel whale.
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Man: We are restarting
a nuclear arms race,
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and our public is
blissfully unaware of that.
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Sync & corrections by honeybunny
www.addic7ed.com
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Crowd: Hands up!
Don't shoot! Hands up!
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Today the United States is
in the middle
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of the worst drug crisis
in our history.
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Overdoses and deaths
are at an all-time high.
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Now, this epidemic involves scores of
new and powerful pharmaceutical drugs,
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but at the center of it is
one of the oldest: Heroin.
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Morning. We're
in Guerrero, Mexico...
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at the source
of America's heroin problem.
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Ah...
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There they are.
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So, all these little flowers in
here will be harvested for opium,
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which will then be turned into heroin
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and shipped up north.
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But right now,
they're just pretty flowers.
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These are the scorers.
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So you cut the pod?
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Sí.
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Sí.
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Well, what do you do now?
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Who buys it?
Who's the buyer?
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Forty-three is responding.
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Upstairs to the right.
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Sweetheart, let me get in there
and check a pulse. Okay?
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When did you find him?
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Okay, he took a breath.
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Go ahead and get the Ambu bag out.
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Okay, drag
him out in the hallway.
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Okay.
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Is he a known addict?
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Okay. Can you get some Narcan?
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I can get him nasally real quick.
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Mickey? Hey, Buddy!
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He's coming back.
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Mickey?
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We've had this gentleman multiple
times in the last couple weeks.
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He'll probably wake up en route
to the hospital completely.
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But it's very common
that we have repeat overdoses.
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Heroin is definitively
back in America.
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Over the last decade,
the number of addicts
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nationwide has more than doubled,
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and the overdose rate
is four to five times
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what it was in the 1970s,
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which was basically
the heroin decade.
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The epicenter
of this new wave of junkie-dom
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is not the urban centers
of New York or Baltimore.
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It's in the hills of West Virginia,
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smack in the middle of Appalachia.
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We are a microcosm of everything that
has happened across the country,
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but it's just so focused right here.
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We knew that we had
to step up our efforts
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from a law enforcement standpoint.
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What we're trying to do
is clean things up
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to get back to the glory
that we once knew.
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Morton:
Right now, at least
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according to what
statistics are available,
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Huntington is the worst hit
city in the state.
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In order to fight the problem,
the mayor here
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has assembled an office
of drug control policy.
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Essentially modeling it after
the country's drug czar,
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which is, you know, kind of a crazy thing
for a town of 50,000 people to need,
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but in light of the fact they're
averaging three overdoses a day,
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I guess you sort of have to find a way
to fight crazy with some form of crazy.
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One of this town drug czar's
best resources
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is Scott Lemley, a young "Moneyball"
sort of kid from the police department,
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trying to use statistics
to get a grasp on the problem.
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How do the numbers
here work? Like, what's...
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Basically, all the overdose
deaths we've had in the county,
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they've all been opiate related.
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If you look at
the city of Huntington,
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we have a death rate,
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119 per 100,000.
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National average is 13.
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So we're about 11 times
the national average.
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Do you have figures about the socioeconomic
background of the people who are dying?
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We've had overdoses in the best
neighborhoods in Huntington.
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We've had overdoses in the worst.
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It's across the board, it really is.
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Morton:
Jan Rader, a trained nurse
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and deputy chief of the
Huntington fire department,
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as well as the woman
who we just watched
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save an overdose victim,
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is also part of the drug task force.
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It's sad when you can
drive around the city
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and you remember places
by who overdosed and died.
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Unfortunately, with this epidemic,
you have to throw out, you know,
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what you thought addiction was,
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what you thought an addict was.
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You know, I don't think the medical
field realized what they were creating
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when this wonderful pain medicine,
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synthetic opiates, was invented.
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Morton: What's crazy is, all this
new smack and pill addiction
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can essentially be traced to one specific
opiate and its maker: OxyContin,
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released to the public by
Purdue Pharmaceuticals in 1996.
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OxyContin is extended
release oxycodone.
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That's a very good drug
to prescribe to someone
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with cancer pain, at the end of life.
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Morton: Dr. Andrew Kolodny
has been studying
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the skyrocketing rates of heroin
addiction across the country
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from its beginning
in prescription pills.
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The way you get a blockbuster drug
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is by getting doctors to prescribe
it for things like low back pain.
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And if it's a drug that is
very difficult to stop taking,
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then you've got the magic formula.
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Morton: Purdue campaigned
heavily throughout the '90s
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to convince doctors
that not only was OxyContin
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safe to prescribe for chronic pain,
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but that opiates in general,
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the drug class
that includes OxyContin,
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as well as morphine, Dilaudid,
and heroin,
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were far less addictive
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than all previous medical
science had shown.
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Now, in fact, the rate of addiction
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amongst pain patients
who are treated by doctors
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is much less than one percent.
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The statistic that was
used over and over again
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was much less than one percent
of patients would get addicted.
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But what you would find is
that what everybody was citing
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wasn't actually a journal article.
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It was a one-paragraph
letter to the editor.
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And yet, that's what
was used as evidence
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and cited hundreds of times
by experts in the field
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as proof that we shouldn't be worried
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about getting our patients addicted.
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Something you have to understand
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is that when when we talk
about opioid pain medicine,
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we're essentially
talking about heroin pills.
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From the beginning of
the opioid addiction epidemic,
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the young people
who were opioid-addicted
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who were having trouble getting
enough pills from doctors,
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would go to the black market,
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and if they were in
a region of the country
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where heroin was available,
they switched.
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Morton: Can I ask you
how you started using?
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Had you ever touched
heroin before that or...?
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Why'd you switch?
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Ah.
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Morton: What's particularly
insidious about opiate addiction
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is how quickly the body
develops a tolerance,
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requiring increasing amounts of the
drug just to generate the same effect,
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which, obviously, also increases
the chance of accidental overdose.
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Morton: You're making
these big lines.
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If you had just started,
like, how big a...
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how big of a bump
are you doing? Okay.
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Morton: While pill makers like
Purdue teed up all this madness,
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at the very least,
their product was regulated.
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If you took an 80mg OxyContin,
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you knew exactly how much oxy
you were taking.
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This is not the case with heroin,
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whose strength can vary
from batch to batch,
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and even bag to bag.
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On top of that, heroin has to be cut,
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because pure heroin alone would
kill even a veteran junkie.
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But what it's cut with
is anybody's guess.
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Yeah.
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And how much could you
sell it for if you cut it?
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Are those... What are those?
Are those movie tickets?
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Oh, lottery tickets.
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So, what do you cut it with?
Is that...
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No. Okay.
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Mm-hmm.
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When you say pills,
do you use painkiller pills?
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Well, it's basically the same
thing as heroin, isn't it? Right.
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Morton: The strongest cutting
agent of all is fentanyl,
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which is the strongest opioid
painkiller in existence,
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up to 50 times
the strength of pure heroin.
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Do you know anybody
who cuts with fentanyl?
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Yeah?
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Really?
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They were intentionally trying
to get someone to overdose.
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Yes.
Okay.
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Morton: Accidental
overdoses have long served
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as a perverse form of
advertising for heroin dealers.
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But the fact that they're using
pharmaceutical drugs to induce them
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shows just how extreme
the demand has grown.
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So now the heroin epidemic that
the OxyContin epidemic started,
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has itself turned into
a fentanyl epidemic.
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They didn't understand why they're
cutting heroin with fentanyl,
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because fentanyl is really expensive.
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And I kind of have this idea
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that they're not cutting
heroin with fentanyl.
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They're cutting
the fentanyl with heroin.
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Morton: With an increasingly
toxic, and seemingly inexhaustible
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supply of heroin
entering the country,
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the government has finally
started making overtures
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towards addressing the problem
on the demand side.
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More Americans now die
every year from drug overdoses
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than they do from
motor vehicle crashes.
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Morton: President Obama has
come to Charleston today
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to address the heroin problem.
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But there's
an ironic note in the fact
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that this is a crisis
that started in 2007,
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before the Obama presidency,
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and it's taken till the second-to-last
year of his administration
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to address a problem
that's been in plain sight
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down here for over eight years.
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Obama: I've made this a
priority for my administration.
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With no other disease
do we expect people to wait
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until they're a danger to themselves
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to self-diagnose
and seek treatment.
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You understand that
here in West Virginia.
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We want to make sure the whole country
understands how urgent this problem is.
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One big part of the problem with
the opiate crisis in West Virginia
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is they've... this is basically
their first time dealing with it.
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This is actually a big part
of a larger problem
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with America's response
to drug problems.
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It's just general inexperience
with addiction,
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like what it means to be an addict,
why people behave the way they do
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when they're hooked on heroin
or OxyContin or other opioids.
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Mickey, the addict who overdosed at
the very beginning of our piece,
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he survived, thankfully,
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and was lucky to find a bed
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at a treatment facility
here in Huntington.
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What's up?
What's going on, bro?
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Morton: Now, you've been here before,
though, right? You were telling me.
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Mickey: Yeah, the first
time I was in here,
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I just wanted that
damn judge off my back.
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The second time I came in, I just...
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needed to learn how to manage,
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to get back to where I was
able to use and still work,
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and pay bills and all that shit.
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Yeah. And, yeah, it
don't work that way.
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That's like trying to be, like, a
social drinker for alcoholics.
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Yeah. I was trying...
Yeah, I failed miserably.
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That's when I met you guys.
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Morton: How many times had
you overdosed before that?
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Mickey:
About seven.
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I mean, I've overdosed
a bunch more than that,
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but seven of them, I had
to go to the hospital for.
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Right. Okay.
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I woke up with everything
from hoses down my throat,
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to adrenaline shots, to Narcan.
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All:
God, grant us the serenity
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to accept the things
we cannot change...
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Hell, I've lived on the
streets, riverbanks, and tents,
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spent winters out there.
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I mean, it's... You would
think it'd be enough
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just to make a person
want to stop and change,
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but, fuck, it didn't stop me.
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Most people come in here to get a
life that they've had prior to here.
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I never had one. It's like
learning to walk again.
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I mean, if this was easy,
everybody would do it and quit.
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Right. Right. Drug dealers
would be out of business.
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It ain't that easy.
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There are some alarming
new numbers out from the CDC
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showing a dramatic rise in the
heroin epidemic in this country.
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Anchorman: Today the state of
Washington set a new record.
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For the fifth year in a row
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the number of heroin
overdoses went up.
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Overdose deaths
skyrocketed in Ohio last year.
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Kolodny: This is a problem
we're going to be dealing with
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for the rest of our lives.
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What you're hearing is,
we cracked down on painkillers
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and everybody
switched over to heroin.
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There hasn't been
a crackdown on painkillers.
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There's still massive
over-prescribing of opioids.
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Every state in the country
has within it counties
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that are feeling
the effects of this epidemic.
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This is the worst drug addiction
epidemic in United States history.
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Decades after the end
of the Cold War,
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America's now rebuilding
our aging nuclear arsenal.
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Now, the Pentagon wants to spend
hundreds of billions of dollars
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on new warheads and new
vehicles to carry them.
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But this effort isn't just expensive,
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it could actually be a threat
to our global security.
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Man: As you can see, it's kind of
tradition for a lot of people,
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once they spend their time
working in the missile field,
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they'll kind of write their name,
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and put in a time frame of how
many years they spent out here.
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We're at about
60 to 80 feet below ground.
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So this is the first blast door,
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to protect measures of, you know,
before you get the capsule,
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who also has another blast door, too.
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And the purpose of this is...
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Pretty much to sustain the
equipment down here so nothing...
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In the case of a nuclear attack?
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Larsen: This command capsule can
launch a nuclear missile strike
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against any target on the planet.
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The officers here pull 24-hour
shifts called "alerts."
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During that period,
they're responsible for ten
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of the 450 intercontinental
ballistic missiles, or ICBMs,
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buried at three bases
around the American West.
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So we're having a little party
down here in the capsule today?
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Uh, it seems like.
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It's my 100 alert,
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so Lieutenant Busbee surprised
me with a cookie cake.
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Larsen: One hundred
alerts means 2,400 hours
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locked in a bunker
no bigger than a family van,
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which may seem like a long time,
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but there have been officers
on continuous alert in here
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since 1963.
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It might be super old,
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but it's still reliable
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and it still gets the mission done.
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Do you guys ever have
the feeling like,
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"Hey, we practice these things
all the time,
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"but we never actually use them"?
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We use these every day.
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The mission is deterrence.
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And part of deterrence
is being capable of doing it.
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So if the president
wants to actually launch,
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we are ready to go.
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Push door open.
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Three, two, one, mark.
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Larsen: Many people thought
that when the Cold War ended,
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these weapons would go away too,
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but they never did.
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And the Air Force tests them regularly
at a secure base in California
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to show the world
that they still work.
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At a launch in late February,
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Pentagon leadership was
on hand to make sure.
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Even though these
systems are getting old,
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anyone who is a nuclear power is
sure to be watching these tests
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and has to be at least aware
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that the United States nuclear deterrent
is as strong as it has ever been.
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Larsen: The next morning, we sat
down with Deputy Secretary Work
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to ask him why he thinks
it's still important
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to have nuclear weapons at all.
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The president, your boss, has said
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he'd like to see a world
without nuclear weapons.
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How does that play into the
current modernization program?
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Well, what the president says, in addition
to wanting to get rid of nuclear weapons,
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he says as long as we have them,
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they are going to be
safe, secure, and effective.
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So he recognizes very clearly,
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that as long as adversaries or
potential rivals or countries
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have nuclear weapons,
we're going to have them too.
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So as long as that is
our national policy,
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we will recapitalize them.
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Larsen: The United States still
controls a massive nuclear arsenal
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powerful enough to end
the world as we know it.
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It's made up of what's called
the nuclear triad:
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Land-based ICBMS,
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gravity bombs and cruise missiles
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dropped from
long-range bombers,
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and missiles launched from submarines
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that hide in the ocean.
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Now, the military wants to spend
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as much as a trillion dollars
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to modernize all of it.
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And that's ignited an intense debate
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about whether we should
be spending so much
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on weapons we'll likely never use.
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We spend more money
on nuclear weapons
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than all other countries combined.
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This is the epitome of overkill.
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Let's start the year
by putting to rest the notion
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that our nuclear deterrent
is unaffordable.
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That's just ridiculous.
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Larsen: At the top of the
Pentagon's wish list
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is a new fleet of
nuclear-armed submarines.
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We traveled to an undisclosed location
off the southern coast to see why.
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Larsen:
It's a pretty surreal feeling
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to be in the middle of the ocean
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and to come up on
a ballistic missile submarine.
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It looks like a giant steel whale.
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This is the USS Wyoming.
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Beneath these hatches are
underwater launch missiles
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that together carry seven
times the total firepower
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unleashed during World War II.
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Cue the launch of the 1C dive, dive.
Two blasts to dive alarm. Dive, dive.
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Dive! Dive!
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Establish launch conditions.
This is the captain.
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This is an exercise.
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Boat is XO, target package ID.
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Whiskey, Yankee, Oscar
has been directed.
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Larsen: The crew simulates launching a
nuclear strike several times a day.
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Obtain the launch key. Obtain
the launch key. Aye, sir.
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Why do you drill this component
of the mission so often?
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The nation as a whole is depending
on us to be able to deliver
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whenever the president tasks us.
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Any time of day, any time of night.
We cannot fail.
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Fourteen, aweigh.
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Fourteen, aweigh.
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Larsen: That urgency is one of
the Navy's major justifications
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for replacing these submarines
with new ones.
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The core function here is to keep these 24
missile tubes up and running at all times.
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But the equipment that runs them,
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and much of the rest of the ship
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is getting too old to be reliable.
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This is like 1970s technology.
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The size of it, which you see in an
old movie, you know, in a warehouse.
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So the upgrade for the Ohio
replacement will take this room
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and could probably put it into
basically a laptop-size computer.
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And then the hardware
that's made to run this
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is so out of date that it costs
the government more money
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to have someone actually
go back in and build that,
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and to be able to repair
some of that stuff, so...
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Space is very vital on a submarine,
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so every single big cabinet that we have
is taking away space from the crew.
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This is a nine-man bunk room. Okay.
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Right here next to the missiles?
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Next to the missiles.
We sleep with them.
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What's it like to sleep
between missile tubes?
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It feels kind of odd sleeping,
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you know, on a weapon
of mass destruction,
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but, you know,
you get used to it, I guess.
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It comes with the job.
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Larsen: If the Navy gets its way
and we do buy new submarines,
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the first one is projected to cost
at least 8.8 billion dollars.
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And the eleven subsequent ships would cost
more than five billion dollars apiece.
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And that's just one part of the
nuclear modernization shopping spree.
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The Air Force released more
details about its plans
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for a new long-range
strike bomber.
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Larsen: A brand-new
fleet of B-21 bombers,
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to replace the B-2
and other models,
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could cost more
than 100 billion dollars.
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Stephen Schwartz is
a nuclear weapons analyst
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who says all this spending
is getting out of control.
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We're actually spending more today
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to maintain and sustain
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and modernize our nuclear arsenal
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than we spent on average
during the Cold War
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when we were building
new nuclear weapons
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and testing them on a regular basis.
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That's just incredible.
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Do you ever step outside
your job and be like,
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"This is crazy. We've built the
world's most expensive, elite,
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practice football team that
we hope never plays a game"?
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Right. Well, the people
on the other side will say,
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"We use nuclear weapons every
day." I'm sure you've heard that.
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You know, the other
argument they'll say is,
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"Well, obviously,
all this stuff worked.
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"Okay, we spent trillions of dollars.
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We built all these weapons.
We're still here."
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That's a myth. That's probably the
number one myth of the Cold War.
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We could've done it with a lot less.
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How much? I don't know.
But we didn't need it all.
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We definitely didn't need it all.
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Larsen: But even though
our arsenal was huge,
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it followed a certain logic.
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The weapons were
so big and so destructive
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that both sides knew
they would never be used.
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But now that we're modernizing,
we're building a new weapon
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that's moving us
in the opposite direction.
447
00:24:26,184 --> 00:24:28,451
At the National Security
Campus in Kansas City,
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technicians are working on
a polarizing new project.
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Behind me is a trainer model
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of the B61-12 gravity bomb.
451
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This weapon itself has
become very controversial
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because of its ability to target
more accurately and to be smaller.
453
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The explosive yield
of the B61-12
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can be throttled down
to .3 kilotons,
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a thousand times less powerful
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than the warhead
on our current ICBMs.
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And a new tailfin allows it
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to be guided directly to its target,
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giving it accuracy that our
nuclear bombs have never had.
460
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Taken together, those traits could
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make these weapons more usable
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in the minds of American commanders.
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Dr. William Perry was in
charge of America's nukes
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as our 19th Secretary of Defense.
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It's hard to argue
there's anything wrong
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with having lower yields
or more accuracies.
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But in fact, there is.
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We can devise tactical situations
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in which we might want to use it.
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The problem is,
those tactical situations
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are a snare and a delusion
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because they lead us into believing
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we can use nuclear weapons
at lower levels of danger
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that would not lead to a full-scale
attack on the United States,
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that would not lead
to a full-scale nuclear war.
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That's a very,
very dangerous assumption.
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Larsen: At the age of 88,
Perry's now the leading voice
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warning that we're in increasing
danger of a nuclear disaster.
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The threat is real.
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In a sense, we are living
on borrowed time.
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Larsen: Which is all the more
striking because during the Cold War,
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he helped build up our nuclear
force to what it is today.
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I've devoted a lot of my career
helping to build this deterrence
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because I believed it was important.
485
00:26:11,523 --> 00:26:13,289
Even as I did that,
486
00:26:13,391 --> 00:26:15,558
I understood that it was
a dangerous situation,
487
00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:18,428
that we should be looking
for some way out of the trap.
488
00:26:18,530 --> 00:26:20,063
I did not see any way out of it
489
00:26:20,165 --> 00:26:22,432
when there was a Soviet Union
that was hostile.
490
00:26:22,534 --> 00:26:25,535
But when the Cold War ended,
that opened up the possibility
491
00:26:25,637 --> 00:26:27,203
of moving away from deterrence.
492
00:26:27,305 --> 00:26:29,739
And we did start moving away
for the first few years,
493
00:26:29,841 --> 00:26:32,475
but now we're falling back
into the deterrence trap.
494
00:26:32,577 --> 00:26:36,713
Are we in danger of a new
nuclear escalation though?
495
00:26:36,815 --> 00:26:39,682
Yes, we are, already, in a sense,
496
00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:41,818
restarting the nuclear arms race.
497
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,486
Even more dangerously,
498
00:26:43,588 --> 00:26:45,922
we're on the threshold
of starting a new Cold War.
499
00:26:46,024 --> 00:26:48,825
Larsen: That's because
the more we modernize,
500
00:26:48,927 --> 00:26:53,029
the harder it is to convince countries
like China, North Korea, or Russia
501
00:26:53,131 --> 00:26:55,798
not to ratchet up
their own nuclear programs.
502
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:57,467
Anchorman:
A key question tonight:
503
00:26:57,569 --> 00:27:01,204
How will Russia respond to
America's enhanced nuclear bombs?
504
00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:12,215
Larsen: When President Obama hosted a nuclear
security summit in March of this year,
505
00:27:12,317 --> 00:27:15,885
Russia refused to attend.
506
00:27:15,987 --> 00:27:19,489
At the same time, Russia is building
new submarines and missiles,
507
00:27:19,591 --> 00:27:22,959
and they're warning that they
may be forced to use them.
508
00:27:32,537 --> 00:27:36,339
The Russians have used terms
about nuclear weapons
509
00:27:36,441 --> 00:27:38,741
that we view
as extremely destabilizing.
510
00:27:38,843 --> 00:27:41,878
This is stuff we haven't heard
since the Cold War, literally.
511
00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,513
And the Russians have said,
512
00:27:43,615 --> 00:27:46,382
"Look, we'll go
to nuclear weapons early.
513
00:27:46,484 --> 00:27:48,851
We will escalate
to deescalate."
514
00:27:48,953 --> 00:27:52,288
Once you start up the escalatory
ladder with a nuclear weapon,
515
00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:55,057
you don't know where
you're going to end up.
516
00:27:56,361 --> 00:27:58,728
Are we living in
dangerous nuclear times?
517
00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:01,063
I believe...
518
00:28:01,166 --> 00:28:04,233
that the likelihood
of a nuclear catastrophe today
519
00:28:04,335 --> 00:28:06,636
is greater than it was
during the Cold War.
520
00:28:06,738 --> 00:28:10,173
And our public is
blissfully unaware of that.
521
00:28:10,275 --> 00:28:13,543
Is there any way out of this?
522
00:28:13,645 --> 00:28:15,711
Maybe not, but I hope so.
523
00:28:15,814 --> 00:28:17,680
The first thing we have to do
is don't make it worse.
524
00:28:17,782 --> 00:28:21,083
If we go ahead with the complete
remodernization of the force today,
525
00:28:21,186 --> 00:28:23,619
we're just digging the hole deeper.
526
00:28:23,721 --> 00:28:25,888
Sooner or later,
we've got to get out of it.
527
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:27,757
It's not going to be soon,
528
00:28:27,859 --> 00:28:29,579
but we ought to be moving
in that direction,
529
00:28:29,627 --> 00:28:31,561
not in the wrong direction.
530
00:28:31,663 --> 00:28:42,198
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