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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,342 --> 00:00:10,931 Is the U.S. government 2 00:00:10,932 --> 00:00:13,695 covering up the truth about alien contact? 3 00:00:15,202 --> 00:00:17,378 And if so, why? 4 00:00:17,379 --> 00:00:19,806 The government seems to be completely unaccountable 5 00:00:19,807 --> 00:00:21,104 to the American public. 6 00:00:21,105 --> 00:00:23,196 They rarely release anything 7 00:00:23,197 --> 00:00:25,249 that they know or their findings. 8 00:00:28,472 --> 00:00:30,648 The fact that the U.S. government has 9 00:00:30,649 --> 00:00:33,955 investigated thousands and thousands of reports 10 00:00:33,956 --> 00:00:37,262 leads me to think they know much more 11 00:00:37,263 --> 00:00:39,647 than they let us believe. 12 00:00:39,648 --> 00:00:42,704 Could the government have a secret agenda, 13 00:00:42,705 --> 00:00:45,634 one known to only a select few, 14 00:00:45,635 --> 00:00:48,857 and perhaps dating back hundreds of years? 15 00:00:48,858 --> 00:00:51,285 The government's program continues 16 00:00:51,286 --> 00:00:54,341 to be deny, deny, deny. 17 00:00:54,342 --> 00:00:56,936 Sometimes, government finds it helpful 18 00:00:56,937 --> 00:00:59,992 to sow seeds of disinformation and misinformation 19 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:03,508 to hide the facts about these sorts of programs. 20 00:01:03,509 --> 00:01:05,811 Hillary Clinton was basically saying, 21 00:01:05,812 --> 00:01:07,611 "You are going to give me the information I need" 22 00:01:07,612 --> 00:01:09,411 to disclose the extraterrestrial presence, 23 00:01:09,412 --> 00:01:11,337 "or I'm gonna fire every single one of you." 24 00:01:11,338 --> 00:01:13,555 People want to know what the government knows, 25 00:01:13,556 --> 00:01:16,577 and they ought to know what the government knows. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 27 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:52,779 On December 16th, 2017, 28 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:55,744 The New York Times ran an explosive story 29 00:01:55,745 --> 00:01:59,547 entitled "Glowing Auras and 'Black Money':" 30 00:01:59,548 --> 00:02:02,805 The Pentagon's Mysterious UFO Program." 31 00:02:02,806 --> 00:02:06,438 It was the first time the American public learned 32 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,364 of a top secret U.S. government project, 33 00:02:09,365 --> 00:02:13,039 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,047 otherwise known as AATIP. 35 00:02:16,048 --> 00:02:18,470 The revelations concerning the existence 36 00:02:18,471 --> 00:02:22,480 of the Pentagon's AATIP program are extraordinary. 37 00:02:22,481 --> 00:02:26,742 It is the single biggest ever news 38 00:02:26,743 --> 00:02:29,665 in the whole history of the UFO phenomenon. 39 00:02:29,666 --> 00:02:34,428 It's not quite a spaceship in a hangar smoking gun, 40 00:02:34,429 --> 00:02:37,061 but it's the closest we've ever been. 41 00:02:37,062 --> 00:02:41,489 I assure you that nothing like this has ever happened 42 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:43,242 in the history of this issue. 43 00:02:43,243 --> 00:02:45,457 This is a milestone. This is a watershed. 44 00:02:47,588 --> 00:02:50,344 The article reported that the program had been run 45 00:02:50,345 --> 00:02:54,480 by a former Pentagon official named Luis Elizondo, 46 00:02:54,481 --> 00:02:57,154 a senior career intelligence officer 47 00:02:57,155 --> 00:03:01,833 with top security clearance and with experience in everything 48 00:03:01,834 --> 00:03:04,923 from microbiology and parasitology 49 00:03:04,924 --> 00:03:07,514 to the study of global terrorism. 50 00:03:07,515 --> 00:03:10,522 It was Elizondo's job to investigate reports 51 00:03:10,523 --> 00:03:13,111 of unidentified flying objects, 52 00:03:13,112 --> 00:03:17,457 and to measure what threat they could pose to national security. 53 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:21,843 AATIP received these cases from various different channels. 54 00:03:21,844 --> 00:03:24,140 In some cases, reporting would come up through Navy channels. 55 00:03:24,141 --> 00:03:26,062 In other cases, it would come up through Air Force channels. 56 00:03:26,063 --> 00:03:27,607 In other cases, it would come through 57 00:03:27,608 --> 00:03:31,285 the intelligence community, and all roads led to our office, 58 00:03:31,286 --> 00:03:33,080 regarding the phenomena. 59 00:03:33,081 --> 00:03:36,757 Elizondo played a key role 60 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:39,429 in the government's top secret AATIP program 61 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:43,691 prior to his leaving the government in 2017. 62 00:03:43,692 --> 00:03:48,119 Among the reasons given for his departure was the bitterness 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,752 he felt that the research he was conducting, 64 00:03:50,753 --> 00:03:54,344 and the conclusions that he and his colleagues were reaching, 65 00:03:54,345 --> 00:03:56,391 were not being taken seriously 66 00:03:56,392 --> 00:03:59,691 by other agencies within the government. 67 00:03:59,692 --> 00:04:03,660 Even Congress, to which AATIP owed its funding, 68 00:04:03,661 --> 00:04:07,335 was hard-pressed to give Elizondo so much as a hearing 69 00:04:07,336 --> 00:04:11,095 so that his findings could be made part of the public record. 70 00:04:11,096 --> 00:04:13,602 Interestingly, just two months 71 00:04:13,603 --> 00:04:16,693 after Elizondo's exit from the government, 72 00:04:16,694 --> 00:04:19,576 The New York Times broke the major story, 73 00:04:19,577 --> 00:04:23,001 exposing the AATIP program and many of the facts 74 00:04:23,002 --> 00:04:25,007 surrounding the government's secret research 75 00:04:25,008 --> 00:04:27,472 into UFO activity. 76 00:04:27,473 --> 00:04:31,064 When I read in The New York Times this front page story 77 00:04:31,065 --> 00:04:34,740 that the government was running this semi-secret program 78 00:04:34,741 --> 00:04:37,455 to investigate, well, aerial phenomena, 79 00:04:37,456 --> 00:04:40,505 which is kind of a code word for UFOs, 80 00:04:40,506 --> 00:04:43,846 yeah, you know, I thought, "My God, all these years, 81 00:04:43,847 --> 00:04:46,018 "you know, people who think that we're being visited 82 00:04:46,019 --> 00:04:49,278 "were claiming that the government was, in fact, 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,369 "possessing some secret knowledge about this. 84 00:04:52,370 --> 00:04:55,209 And, sure enough, they did have this secret investigation." 85 00:04:55,210 --> 00:04:58,928 For Luis Elizondo, The New York Times article 86 00:04:58,929 --> 00:05:00,891 served as a vindication 87 00:05:00,892 --> 00:05:03,941 for the years that his research went unrecognized 88 00:05:03,942 --> 00:05:06,322 and his warnings unheeded. 89 00:05:06,323 --> 00:05:09,913 For if the UFO activity being recorded was real, 90 00:05:09,914 --> 00:05:13,508 so, too, was the possibility that it was being caused 91 00:05:13,509 --> 00:05:16,431 by technologies that were not only unknown, 92 00:05:16,432 --> 00:05:19,188 but of extraterrestrial origin. 93 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:22,907 Elizondo, he resigned because he felt 94 00:05:22,908 --> 00:05:25,705 the government considered this a joke. 95 00:05:25,706 --> 00:05:28,213 I think that the fact that these folks are out there 96 00:05:28,214 --> 00:05:30,718 trying to get the answers that we're all seeking, 97 00:05:30,719 --> 00:05:32,975 absolutely fantastic. 98 00:05:32,976 --> 00:05:35,397 And they're getting to top government officials. 99 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:39,032 And someday, we're gonna get the answers 100 00:05:39,033 --> 00:05:40,786 from people like that... 101 00:05:40,787 --> 00:05:43,919 Not from government, but from people like that. 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,429 Luckily for Luis Elizondo, 103 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,478 one of the people who took him and his research seriously 104 00:05:50,479 --> 00:05:54,614 was musician and UFO researcher Tom DeLonge. 105 00:05:54,615 --> 00:05:57,706 Tom DeLonge, who is most famous 106 00:05:57,707 --> 00:06:02,468 for his being the lead in Blink-182. 107 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:06,479 I've known Tom for a while, and he spearheaded an initiative 108 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,280 that's brought together a number of scientists and others 109 00:06:10,281 --> 00:06:14,332 to both continue to study the phenomena on the outside, 110 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:17,465 in the private sector, and to raise funds to do that. 111 00:06:17,466 --> 00:06:21,476 His enthusiasm, his passion 112 00:06:21,477 --> 00:06:23,397 has driven things forward. 113 00:06:23,398 --> 00:06:25,151 A lot of people were saying, 114 00:06:25,152 --> 00:06:27,365 "What does a rock star know about all this?" 115 00:06:27,366 --> 00:06:30,624 Let's not forget that sometimes even people in government 116 00:06:30,625 --> 00:06:32,378 and military and the intelligence community 117 00:06:32,379 --> 00:06:37,809 get a little more starstruck than they should by celebrities. 118 00:06:37,810 --> 00:06:43,532 Tom DeLonge was able to use this to leverage, I guess, access 119 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:45,873 where others had tried and failed. 120 00:06:47,836 --> 00:06:50,259 In October 2017, 121 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:52,179 Tom DeLonge announced the creation 122 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:55,480 of his To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, 123 00:06:55,481 --> 00:06:59,617 an organization devoted to the study of UFOs 124 00:06:59,618 --> 00:07:02,875 and the possible existence of extraterrestrial activity 125 00:07:02,876 --> 00:07:05,340 here on Earth. 126 00:07:05,341 --> 00:07:09,516 When Elizondo left the Pentagon, he was determined 127 00:07:09,517 --> 00:07:13,151 to bring AATIP's years of investigation out of the shadows 128 00:07:13,152 --> 00:07:16,994 by releasing several of the videos he had collected. 129 00:07:16,995 --> 00:07:20,170 One of them featured this incredible encounter, 130 00:07:20,171 --> 00:07:24,347 taken by a fighter jet in Florida in 2015, 131 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:27,313 now known as the Gimbal video. 132 00:07:39,429 --> 00:07:42,854 On December 18, 2017, 133 00:07:42,855 --> 00:07:46,655 DeLonge and Elizondo revealed a second shocking video 134 00:07:46,656 --> 00:07:49,787 which was released through The Washington Post. 135 00:07:49,788 --> 00:07:54,007 This UFO had been tracked by the USS Princeton 136 00:07:54,008 --> 00:07:56,597 for several days over the Pacific Ocean, 137 00:07:56,598 --> 00:08:01,985 approximately 100 miles southwest of San Diego. 138 00:08:01,986 --> 00:08:05,536 On the screen, it also says the speed of the F-18 139 00:08:05,537 --> 00:08:10,466 is 250 knots, roughly about 280 miles per hour. 140 00:08:10,467 --> 00:08:12,723 This F-18 can't seem to get any closer 141 00:08:12,724 --> 00:08:14,602 to this vehicle, whatever it is. 142 00:08:14,603 --> 00:08:17,568 Now, the F-18's one of the highest technology 143 00:08:17,569 --> 00:08:19,698 fighter crafts on the planet. 144 00:08:19,699 --> 00:08:22,581 And it can't catch this thing? 145 00:08:22,582 --> 00:08:25,840 When it darts offscreen to the left, 146 00:08:25,841 --> 00:08:28,179 it would be going extremely fast. 147 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:31,062 The g-forces would turn a person inside it 148 00:08:31,063 --> 00:08:33,067 into, like, tapioca pudding. 149 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:35,030 I mean, it would kill them. 150 00:08:37,121 --> 00:08:39,792 In March 2018, 151 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:43,342 a third Pentagon video entitled "Go Fast" was released, 152 00:08:43,343 --> 00:08:47,731 and featured yet another unexplained aerial encounter. 153 00:08:55,334 --> 00:08:58,591 But perhaps the most shocking information 154 00:08:58,592 --> 00:09:03,269 to come from Tom DeLonge and his To The Stars Academy was 155 00:09:03,270 --> 00:09:07,823 Luis Elizondo's claim that Bigelow Aerospace had modified 156 00:09:07,824 --> 00:09:11,166 its buildings for the storage of strange metal alloys 157 00:09:11,167 --> 00:09:15,844 of unknown origin, also known as metamaterials. 158 00:09:15,845 --> 00:09:18,810 Now, hold, stop the presses right there. 159 00:09:18,811 --> 00:09:21,149 What are these metal alloys? 160 00:09:21,150 --> 00:09:24,241 Luis Elizondo has referred 161 00:09:24,242 --> 00:09:27,666 to these as "meta materials." 162 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:31,843 The implication is that they're not special magical elements, 163 00:09:31,844 --> 00:09:34,100 or anything, but they do seem to be 164 00:09:34,101 --> 00:09:36,857 materials that have been studied. 165 00:09:36,858 --> 00:09:40,283 According to Elizondo, tests have been run. 166 00:09:40,284 --> 00:09:42,162 The answer has come back: 167 00:09:42,163 --> 00:09:45,546 whatever these things were, they came from space. 168 00:09:45,547 --> 00:09:47,593 There was also indications 169 00:09:47,594 --> 00:09:49,014 that there were certain polymers 170 00:09:49,015 --> 00:09:52,104 that were discovered at crash sites 171 00:09:52,105 --> 00:09:56,074 that were unexplained and were reviewed. 172 00:09:56,075 --> 00:09:58,205 You know, for years and years, 173 00:09:58,206 --> 00:10:02,255 UFO researchers had talked about crash retrievals of UFOs, 174 00:10:02,256 --> 00:10:03,885 or that elements of these objects 175 00:10:03,886 --> 00:10:05,848 had been recovered and were being studied. 176 00:10:05,849 --> 00:10:08,815 And skeptics would laugh at these claims. 177 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:10,861 You know, how ridiculous 178 00:10:10,862 --> 00:10:14,455 such conspiracy paranoid fantasies were. 179 00:10:14,456 --> 00:10:16,208 Well, guess what. 180 00:10:16,209 --> 00:10:18,800 Now we have it confirmed. 181 00:10:18,801 --> 00:10:21,430 What are these materials? 182 00:10:21,431 --> 00:10:23,018 Are they of this Earth? 183 00:10:23,019 --> 00:10:26,025 Are they from an advanced alien intelligence? 184 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:30,538 Were these metals actually taken from crashed UFOs? 185 00:10:30,539 --> 00:10:34,339 What are the sources for these kinds of metals? 186 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:37,054 These are the kind of questions that we need to learn 187 00:10:37,055 --> 00:10:39,186 the answers to if we're gonna get to the bottom 188 00:10:39,187 --> 00:10:43,197 of understanding what the government knows about UFOs. 189 00:10:43,198 --> 00:10:47,164 Is it possible that the U.S. military has recovered 190 00:10:47,165 --> 00:10:50,130 crashed extraterrestrial spacecraft, 191 00:10:50,131 --> 00:10:52,763 and that wreckage from these aircraft 192 00:10:52,764 --> 00:10:55,478 is currently being stored and studied 193 00:10:55,479 --> 00:10:59,696 by a top-secret team at Bigelow Aerospace? 194 00:10:59,697 --> 00:11:02,454 One of the really interesting things about AATIP 195 00:11:02,455 --> 00:11:05,169 is how much information hasn't been released. 196 00:11:05,170 --> 00:11:07,132 We hear things that are coming. 197 00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:09,012 There's this report that was written 198 00:11:09,013 --> 00:11:10,934 that we're supposed to get to see at some point. 199 00:11:10,935 --> 00:11:12,145 Haven't seen it yet. 200 00:11:12,146 --> 00:11:14,192 And then, are there more videos? 201 00:11:14,193 --> 00:11:16,031 We've seen, I think, three videos come out 202 00:11:16,032 --> 00:11:17,618 that they've released. 203 00:11:17,619 --> 00:11:19,122 There has to be more. 204 00:11:19,123 --> 00:11:20,668 They were doing this for, like, five years, 205 00:11:20,669 --> 00:11:23,175 or maybe even a lot longer than that. 206 00:11:23,176 --> 00:11:25,806 I bet you there's a lot more. 207 00:11:25,807 --> 00:11:28,438 Other secret military programs 208 00:11:28,439 --> 00:11:31,028 have been going on for many, many decades. 209 00:11:31,029 --> 00:11:33,200 And it's really just the tip of the iceberg. 210 00:11:33,201 --> 00:11:37,253 Was the U.S. government's AATIP program 211 00:11:37,254 --> 00:11:41,221 the only one to be investigating extraterrestrial activity? 212 00:11:41,222 --> 00:11:44,980 And, if so, how was it started, and why? 213 00:11:44,981 --> 00:11:48,531 And was the government seriously concerned 214 00:11:48,532 --> 00:11:50,537 that such activity was happening? 215 00:11:50,538 --> 00:11:53,628 Or was the bigger concern that the public 216 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:56,220 would find out about it? 217 00:12:01,226 --> 00:12:05,862 Washington, D.C., 2007. 218 00:12:05,863 --> 00:12:08,745 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada 219 00:12:08,746 --> 00:12:12,211 summons Senator Daniel Inouye from Hawaii 220 00:12:12,212 --> 00:12:15,679 and Alaska Senator Ted Stevens to a secure room 221 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:18,854 in the Capitol Building for a secret meeting. 222 00:12:18,855 --> 00:12:21,612 He convinces them to lend their support 223 00:12:21,613 --> 00:12:24,828 to fund a project researching UFO reports 224 00:12:24,829 --> 00:12:27,125 in the interest of national security... 225 00:12:27,126 --> 00:12:31,095 The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, 226 00:12:31,096 --> 00:12:32,723 or AATIP. 227 00:12:32,724 --> 00:12:35,606 Senator Reid was successful in getting money 228 00:12:35,607 --> 00:12:38,781 into the Defense Department budget 229 00:12:38,782 --> 00:12:43,209 to create a small office to look at 230 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:45,089 what the government knew, 231 00:12:45,090 --> 00:12:49,350 and to study some more recent incidents that had occurred, 232 00:12:49,351 --> 00:12:51,019 and to delve into the background, 233 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:54,362 and to try to explain what pilots who had encountered 234 00:12:54,363 --> 00:12:57,161 strange aerial phenomena couldn't explain. 235 00:12:57,162 --> 00:13:00,044 Without any public debate, 236 00:13:00,045 --> 00:13:03,678 $22 million is allocated for AATIP 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,895 from a black money budget that few people know about 238 00:13:06,896 --> 00:13:08,399 or can monitor. 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,944 Much of it, I think, was classified. 240 00:13:09,945 --> 00:13:11,824 Much of it was unclassified, 241 00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:14,750 but I think people didn't know about the program. 242 00:13:14,751 --> 00:13:18,801 I'm very glad that my friend Harry Reid decided 243 00:13:18,802 --> 00:13:22,560 that he would pursue this and sought money for it. 244 00:13:22,561 --> 00:13:25,611 Senator Stevens was genuinely interested in the topic. 245 00:13:25,612 --> 00:13:27,658 But none of them went out and discussed it. 246 00:13:27,659 --> 00:13:31,834 When later asked about his support for the program, 247 00:13:31,835 --> 00:13:35,344 Senator Reid said that he was inspired by his friend, 248 00:13:35,345 --> 00:13:39,480 retired former senator and astronaut John Glenn. 249 00:13:39,481 --> 00:13:43,323 Glenn, the first American astronaut to orbit the Earth, 250 00:13:43,324 --> 00:13:46,372 told Reid that he thought that the federal government 251 00:13:46,373 --> 00:13:49,422 should be looking seriously into UFOs. 252 00:13:49,423 --> 00:13:52,722 But there are some who believe that Reid's support 253 00:13:52,723 --> 00:13:55,856 owes less to John Glenn than to his friendship 254 00:13:55,857 --> 00:13:59,448 with one of the senator's largest campaign contributors: 255 00:13:59,449 --> 00:14:05,254 Robert Bigelow, the founder of Bigelow Aerospace. 256 00:14:05,255 --> 00:14:09,139 Robert Bigelow owned a series of hotels, 257 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:11,730 and he sold it and made a lot of money. 258 00:14:11,731 --> 00:14:16,409 He decided then he wanted to get into space exploration. 259 00:14:16,410 --> 00:14:20,586 He's fascinated by extraterrestrials and UFOs. 260 00:14:20,587 --> 00:14:24,597 NASA was providing insight, as opposed to oversight... 261 00:14:24,598 --> 00:14:27,688 Which is an important distinction there... 262 00:14:27,689 --> 00:14:30,654 And his dear friend, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, 263 00:14:30,655 --> 00:14:34,037 was convinced by Robert Bigelow 264 00:14:34,038 --> 00:14:36,628 to get the government to spend $22 million 265 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:39,343 into this program to investigate UFOs. 266 00:14:39,344 --> 00:14:41,391 It's not a coincidence, to my mind, 267 00:14:41,392 --> 00:14:42,978 that he was involved in 268 00:14:42,979 --> 00:14:46,571 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 269 00:14:46,572 --> 00:14:48,952 He builds rockets and planes and who knows what else, 270 00:14:48,953 --> 00:14:51,040 and he seems like a perfectly logical person 271 00:14:51,041 --> 00:14:54,675 to have been the point man in the private sector 272 00:14:54,676 --> 00:14:58,225 for using the information that was gleaned from that project, 273 00:14:58,226 --> 00:15:00,900 whatever it was, and we don't know what a lot of it was 274 00:15:00,901 --> 00:15:02,195 because it's classified. 275 00:15:02,196 --> 00:15:04,283 At the time, 276 00:15:04,284 --> 00:15:06,873 the fact that much of AATIP's research was 277 00:15:06,874 --> 00:15:10,049 outsourced to Bigelow Aerospace made perfect sense. 278 00:15:10,050 --> 00:15:13,892 First of all, the company already had a staff 279 00:15:13,893 --> 00:15:17,233 of highly qualified aerospace engineers. 280 00:15:17,234 --> 00:15:21,077 And, secondly, an outside company could operate 281 00:15:21,078 --> 00:15:23,122 without the kind of public scrutiny 282 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:26,006 imposed on a government-based agency. 283 00:15:26,007 --> 00:15:29,849 Bigelow could operate in total secrecy. 284 00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:33,441 Private companies aren't held to the Freedom of Information Act. 285 00:15:33,442 --> 00:15:35,656 Private companies can do whatever they want to 286 00:15:35,657 --> 00:15:38,914 with their funding, and you can't go then and fill out 287 00:15:38,915 --> 00:15:41,004 a Freedom of Information Act request. 288 00:15:41,005 --> 00:15:44,345 That's a way to keep things more secretive. 289 00:15:44,346 --> 00:15:47,896 But was the AATIP program's need for secrecy 290 00:15:47,897 --> 00:15:50,987 merely designed to keep its UFO findings 291 00:15:50,988 --> 00:15:53,828 independent of public scrutiny? 292 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:56,878 Or was there a greater interest in hiding 293 00:15:56,879 --> 00:15:59,092 not only what AATIP was finding, 294 00:15:59,093 --> 00:16:03,855 but also what those in charge of the program were looking for? 295 00:16:06,110 --> 00:16:08,825 In May 2017, 296 00:16:08,826 --> 00:16:11,207 Robert Bigelow was the subject of a profile 297 00:16:11,208 --> 00:16:13,881 on CBS's 60 Minutes. 298 00:16:13,882 --> 00:16:16,804 The piece was meant to focus 299 00:16:16,805 --> 00:16:18,893 on Bigelow's relationship to NASA 300 00:16:18,894 --> 00:16:22,569 and his activities in creating life-support habitats 301 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:24,282 for future astronauts. 302 00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:28,752 During his interview, Bigelow revealed to 60 Minutes 303 00:16:28,753 --> 00:16:32,094 that he was not only an aerospace enthusiast, 304 00:16:32,095 --> 00:16:36,106 but a full-fledged believer in extraterrestrials. 305 00:16:37,943 --> 00:16:39,822 Do you believe in aliens? 306 00:16:39,823 --> 00:16:42,664 I'm absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it. 307 00:16:42,664 --> 00:16:45,963 Do you also believe that UFOs have come to Earth? 308 00:16:45,964 --> 00:16:48,136 There has been and is an existing presence... 309 00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:49,556 An E.T. presence. 310 00:16:49,557 --> 00:16:50,808 And I've spent millions and millions. 311 00:16:50,809 --> 00:16:52,564 I've probably spent more as an individual 312 00:16:52,565 --> 00:16:54,234 than anybody else in the United States 313 00:16:54,235 --> 00:16:56,449 has ever spent on this subject. 314 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:58,496 Is it risky for you to say, 315 00:16:58,497 --> 00:16:59,999 you know, in public that you believe 316 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,922 - in UFOs and aliens? - I don't give a damn. 317 00:17:01,923 --> 00:17:03,717 - I don't care. - You don't worry 318 00:17:03,718 --> 00:17:05,681 that some people will say, "Did you hear that guy? 319 00:17:05,682 --> 00:17:06,851 He sounds like he's crazy." 320 00:17:06,852 --> 00:17:08,813 - I don't care. - Why not? 321 00:17:08,814 --> 00:17:10,193 It's not gonna make a difference. 322 00:17:10,194 --> 00:17:13,493 It's not gonna change reality of what I know. 323 00:17:13,494 --> 00:17:15,456 Bob Bigelow said, 324 00:17:15,457 --> 00:17:17,755 "E.T.s are here. They're right under your nose." 325 00:17:17,756 --> 00:17:20,762 And he uses the word "E.T." He doesn't beat around the bush. 326 00:17:20,763 --> 00:17:24,647 Robert Bigelow became my hero. 327 00:17:24,648 --> 00:17:28,740 That "I don't give a damn" really was for a lot of people. 328 00:17:28,741 --> 00:17:32,501 It was for every billionaire space jockey out there, 329 00:17:32,502 --> 00:17:37,556 whether it's Elon Musk or Branson or Bezos. 330 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:39,184 But guess what. 331 00:17:39,185 --> 00:17:43,654 None of those people have ever said to a reporter, 332 00:17:43,655 --> 00:17:46,704 "You know, I'm pretty sure there's extraterrestrials here." 333 00:17:46,705 --> 00:17:49,252 Bigelow did. 334 00:17:49,253 --> 00:17:52,552 We must now go and ask the head 335 00:17:52,553 --> 00:17:55,811 of Bigelow Aerospace what does he mean 336 00:17:55,812 --> 00:17:59,278 that aliens are under everyone's noses. 337 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:02,828 This story really is begging 338 00:18:02,829 --> 00:18:06,339 for somebody to go to Robert Bigelow 339 00:18:06,340 --> 00:18:09,682 and say, "Can we now go and see your warehouse?" 340 00:18:12,020 --> 00:18:16,448 What a fantastic next step it would be for the world. 341 00:18:16,449 --> 00:18:20,543 Although funding for the AATIP program 342 00:18:20,544 --> 00:18:23,801 was quietly ended in 2012, 343 00:18:23,802 --> 00:18:27,476 there are those who believe that its focus on the study 344 00:18:27,477 --> 00:18:28,896 of recent UFO activity 345 00:18:28,897 --> 00:18:31,403 and on the study of extraterrestrial life 346 00:18:31,405 --> 00:18:34,119 are still alive and well, 347 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:38,630 although now further hidden under a different agency name. 348 00:18:38,631 --> 00:18:41,804 When the Pentagon grudgingly admitted 349 00:18:41,805 --> 00:18:44,187 the existence of the AATIP program, 350 00:18:44,188 --> 00:18:45,815 they did a clever thing, 351 00:18:45,816 --> 00:18:50,203 and they said that the funding had run out in 2012. 352 00:18:50,204 --> 00:18:53,836 The implication was that the program was no more, 353 00:18:53,837 --> 00:18:55,549 but with my knowledge of the way 354 00:18:55,550 --> 00:18:58,724 in which these classified sensitive programs are run, 355 00:18:58,725 --> 00:19:00,353 pulling the funding part 356 00:19:00,354 --> 00:19:03,780 is not the same as terminating the project. 357 00:19:03,781 --> 00:19:07,413 But while some version of the government's 358 00:19:07,414 --> 00:19:11,130 AATIP program may still be operating in secret, 359 00:19:11,131 --> 00:19:12,886 the same cannot be said 360 00:19:12,887 --> 00:19:15,893 for some of the agency's former employees. 361 00:19:15,894 --> 00:19:18,526 And there is one in particular 362 00:19:18,527 --> 00:19:22,536 who is not only open to the idea that aliens do exist, 363 00:19:22,537 --> 00:19:24,500 he has made it his mission 364 00:19:24,501 --> 00:19:28,385 to communicate his findings throughout the world. 365 00:19:30,168 --> 00:19:32,800 When The New York Times story broke, 366 00:19:32,801 --> 00:19:35,514 revealing the existence of the U.S. government's 367 00:19:35,515 --> 00:19:38,188 ultra top secret AATIP program, 368 00:19:38,189 --> 00:19:41,281 UFO experts and ancient astronaut theorists 369 00:19:41,282 --> 00:19:43,661 had validation for what they knew 370 00:19:43,662 --> 00:19:46,627 had been happening for decades: 371 00:19:46,628 --> 00:19:50,763 that the government has proof of extraterrestrial visitation 372 00:19:50,764 --> 00:19:54,063 and that they have been hiding it from the public. 373 00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:56,569 The investigations were denied 374 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:59,076 during the time of their happening. 375 00:19:59,077 --> 00:20:02,084 And it's really curious that we're always told, 376 00:20:02,085 --> 00:20:04,590 "No, these programs are not happening." 377 00:20:04,591 --> 00:20:08,100 And then, 20 years later, these documents are being released 378 00:20:08,101 --> 00:20:12,277 to reveal the fact that these investigations did happen. 379 00:20:12,278 --> 00:20:15,451 My initial reaction to the information 380 00:20:15,452 --> 00:20:18,459 that was released in December of 2017 381 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:23,305 was that this has really been going on for over 70 years. 382 00:20:23,306 --> 00:20:26,982 Although the government's AATIP program 383 00:20:26,983 --> 00:20:29,487 was established in 2007, 384 00:20:29,488 --> 00:20:32,163 it was by no means the first top secret program 385 00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:34,501 designed to investigate UFO activity 386 00:20:34,502 --> 00:20:36,339 in the United States. 387 00:20:36,340 --> 00:20:40,057 The first was known simply as Project Sign, 388 00:20:40,058 --> 00:20:43,190 and it was set up within the U.S. Air Force 389 00:20:43,191 --> 00:20:46,533 to investigate unexplained aerial phenomena, 390 00:20:46,534 --> 00:20:51,546 such as the event now known as the Battle of Los Angeles. 391 00:20:51,547 --> 00:20:53,217 What's called the Battle of I.A. 392 00:20:53,218 --> 00:20:57,018 is actually one of the earliest unexplained UFO mysteries 393 00:20:57,019 --> 00:20:59,065 in modern... our modern era. 394 00:20:59,066 --> 00:21:01,404 Three months after Pearl Harbor, 395 00:21:01,405 --> 00:21:05,667 it took place on the early morning of February 25, 1942. 396 00:21:07,338 --> 00:21:10,845 An unknown object appeared over Los Angeles 397 00:21:10,846 --> 00:21:13,813 and anti-aircraft guns opened fire on it. 398 00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:17,947 The anti-aircraft guns 399 00:21:17,948 --> 00:21:20,288 began barking during a blackout 400 00:21:20,289 --> 00:21:24,171 ordered by the IV Interceptor Command at 2:25 a.m. 401 00:21:24,172 --> 00:21:27,430 1,430 artillery shells were fired 402 00:21:27,431 --> 00:21:32,318 at several unknown objects. 403 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:36,495 Many eyewitnesses on the ground saw this. 404 00:21:36,496 --> 00:21:41,006 There was concern that the Japanese were somehow involved, 405 00:21:41,007 --> 00:21:43,890 but there was no Japanese aircraft carrier, 406 00:21:43,891 --> 00:21:46,187 no chance that Japanese airplanes 407 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:48,025 could have been responsible for this. 408 00:21:48,026 --> 00:21:51,033 The Secretary of the Navy said to the public, 409 00:21:51,034 --> 00:21:52,579 "It was just war nerves. 410 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:54,542 There was nothing out there, whatsoever." 411 00:21:54,543 --> 00:21:57,550 Although the U.S. Army Air Force 412 00:21:57,551 --> 00:22:00,224 officially dismissed the objects seen in the sky 413 00:22:00,225 --> 00:22:01,895 as weather balloons, 414 00:22:01,896 --> 00:22:04,694 they failed to explain why so many weather balloons 415 00:22:04,695 --> 00:22:08,077 would have been floating over Los Angeles in the first place. 416 00:22:08,078 --> 00:22:11,628 In the years following the Battle of Los Angeles, 417 00:22:11,629 --> 00:22:15,053 numerous other UFO sightings were reported, 418 00:22:15,054 --> 00:22:17,226 including the one widely referred to as 419 00:22:17,227 --> 00:22:21,528 "the Roswell incident," in which an unidentified object, 420 00:22:21,529 --> 00:22:24,620 referred to in the press as a flying saucer, 421 00:22:24,621 --> 00:22:27,294 reportedly crashed on a ranch 422 00:22:27,295 --> 00:22:29,967 just outside the town of Roswell, New Mexico, 423 00:22:29,968 --> 00:22:33,728 on July 4, 1947. 424 00:22:33,729 --> 00:22:37,278 Within 24 hours, the story changed. 425 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,826 And they said, "We made a mistake. 426 00:22:39,827 --> 00:22:41,789 "It's not a flying disc. 427 00:22:41,790 --> 00:22:45,174 It's just debris from a weather balloon." 428 00:22:45,175 --> 00:22:47,639 The Roswell incident was 429 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,190 probably a major contributor to the establishment 430 00:22:51,191 --> 00:22:52,861 of what became known as Project Sign 431 00:22:52,862 --> 00:22:54,866 just a couple of months later. 432 00:22:56,203 --> 00:23:00,713 By the time Project Sign was established in 1948, 433 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:03,555 UFO sightings had become so frequent, 434 00:23:03,556 --> 00:23:07,482 they could no longer be ignored or dismissed. 435 00:23:07,483 --> 00:23:10,907 Given the fact that there was a Cold War escalating 436 00:23:10,908 --> 00:23:13,789 between the United States and the Soviet Union, 437 00:23:13,790 --> 00:23:17,258 concerns that UFOs might be spy satellites 438 00:23:17,259 --> 00:23:19,470 or foreign-made weapons gave some justification 439 00:23:19,471 --> 00:23:22,563 to the increasing paranoia. 440 00:23:22,564 --> 00:23:24,776 Answers needed to be found. 441 00:23:24,777 --> 00:23:26,740 But just as the government's 442 00:23:26,741 --> 00:23:29,914 first official UFO program was getting started, 443 00:23:29,915 --> 00:23:34,927 it was suddenly and mysteriously shut down. 444 00:23:34,928 --> 00:23:38,018 There was a very big incident during the summer of 1948, 445 00:23:38,019 --> 00:23:40,943 when a report went to the Air Force Chief of Staff, 446 00:23:40,944 --> 00:23:42,530 General Hoyt Vandenberg, 447 00:23:42,531 --> 00:23:47,042 and it stated, "This is real. They're here." 448 00:23:47,043 --> 00:23:51,011 And Vandenberg closed down Project Sign. 449 00:23:51,012 --> 00:23:53,768 But why would the Air Force Chief of Staff 450 00:23:53,769 --> 00:23:57,779 shut down a program designed to study UFOs 451 00:23:57,780 --> 00:23:59,450 just after being informed 452 00:23:59,451 --> 00:24:04,212 that UFOs were not only real but of genuine concern? 453 00:24:04,213 --> 00:24:06,676 There seems to be a pattern of suppression 454 00:24:06,677 --> 00:24:09,517 over the last 70 years when it comes to the UFO subject. 455 00:24:09,518 --> 00:24:12,567 And all of these government investigations into UFOs, 456 00:24:12,568 --> 00:24:15,533 where they look into it, 457 00:24:15,534 --> 00:24:17,370 then they say there's nothing to it. 458 00:24:17,371 --> 00:24:19,083 Then they look into it again, 459 00:24:19,084 --> 00:24:21,090 then they're finding that there is something to it. 460 00:24:21,091 --> 00:24:23,012 But they don't want to say what it is. 461 00:24:27,607 --> 00:24:29,444 For the next four years, 462 00:24:29,445 --> 00:24:31,825 UFO sightings continued to be reported, 463 00:24:31,826 --> 00:24:33,621 so many, in fact, 464 00:24:33,622 --> 00:24:36,921 that the government could no longer dismiss them as hoaxes, 465 00:24:36,922 --> 00:24:38,467 weather anomalies, 466 00:24:38,468 --> 00:24:41,976 or simply the product of mass hysteria. 467 00:24:41,977 --> 00:24:44,742 By March 1952, 468 00:24:44,743 --> 00:24:47,087 a number of high-ranking Air Force generals 469 00:24:47,088 --> 00:24:49,434 became so frustrated with the military's 470 00:24:49,435 --> 00:24:51,947 previous attempts to properly investigate 471 00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:55,927 so-called flying saucers that they launched a program 472 00:24:55,928 --> 00:24:59,447 that would be the most serious and best-funded to date: 473 00:24:59,448 --> 00:25:02,045 Project Blue Book. 474 00:25:02,046 --> 00:25:05,395 Under the command of Air Force Captain Edward Ruppelt, 475 00:25:05,396 --> 00:25:09,125 this new top secret agency would take UFOs 476 00:25:09,126 --> 00:25:12,100 and their potential threat to national security 477 00:25:12,101 --> 00:25:13,776 very seriously. 478 00:25:13,777 --> 00:25:18,299 Project Blue Book produced a standard form 479 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:21,064 for people who wanted to report a UFO. 480 00:25:21,065 --> 00:25:24,040 What did it look like? Was there a sound? 481 00:25:24,041 --> 00:25:28,145 They even had a chart for people to calculate 482 00:25:28,146 --> 00:25:31,413 the angle of elevation. 483 00:25:31,414 --> 00:25:34,303 If UFOs are nothing to worry about, 484 00:25:34,304 --> 00:25:38,744 why is the Air Force requesting so much information 485 00:25:38,745 --> 00:25:42,077 about the true nature of what the witnesses saw? 486 00:25:42,078 --> 00:25:45,245 In January 1953, 487 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:48,240 after gathering hundreds of reported sightings, 488 00:25:48,265 --> 00:25:50,607 photographs and interviews, 489 00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:54,437 Captain Ruppelt and astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek 490 00:25:54,462 --> 00:25:57,518 prepared and presented their best 23 cases 491 00:25:58,061 --> 00:26:00,860 to a CIA-formed panel of scientists 492 00:26:00,885 --> 00:26:04,257 led by Dr. H.P. Robertson. 493 00:26:04,282 --> 00:26:06,331 The Robertson Panel concluded 494 00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:08,866 that the evidence could all be dismissed 495 00:26:08,891 --> 00:26:10,730 as natural occurrences 496 00:26:10,755 --> 00:26:14,310 and was not worth the effort of the government. 497 00:26:14,749 --> 00:26:17,436 And it was the Robertson Panel which was the origin 498 00:26:17,461 --> 00:26:20,139 for a lot of the propaganda that was put out in the media 499 00:26:20,509 --> 00:26:22,676 when it came to UFOs. 500 00:26:22,701 --> 00:26:24,624 They wanted to publicly ridicule the subject, 501 00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:27,577 so that people wouldn't want to be associated with it, 502 00:26:27,602 --> 00:26:29,902 basically killing all the public interest 503 00:26:29,927 --> 00:26:32,562 in this field so they could continue to research 504 00:26:32,587 --> 00:26:34,595 these exotic technologies behind the scenes. 505 00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:44,379 In 1969, Project Blue Book was finally shut down 506 00:26:44,404 --> 00:26:46,412 on the grounds that there was no proof 507 00:26:46,437 --> 00:26:50,160 the unidentified objects posed a national security threat 508 00:26:50,185 --> 00:26:53,293 or were of extraterrestrial origin. 509 00:26:53,318 --> 00:26:56,330 But was that really the end of the story 510 00:26:56,355 --> 00:26:59,116 or only the beginning? 511 00:27:01,131 --> 00:27:03,876 In February 2018, 512 00:27:03,901 --> 00:27:07,076 Nick Pope, the former Director of Defence Security 513 00:27:07,101 --> 00:27:09,103 at the British Ministry of Defence, 514 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:13,560 traveled to Washington, D.C., to meet with Chase Kloetzke, 515 00:27:13,585 --> 00:27:16,513 a registered lobbyist for UFO disclosure 516 00:27:16,538 --> 00:27:18,662 and a former program developer 517 00:27:18,687 --> 00:27:21,974 for the U.S. Department of Defense. 518 00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:23,975 Chase Kloetzke has investigated 519 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,428 numerous U.S. government secret studies into UFOs 520 00:27:27,453 --> 00:27:30,728 and has examined many of the once-classified files 521 00:27:30,753 --> 00:27:33,135 pertaining to Project Blue Book. 522 00:27:33,689 --> 00:27:38,050 I've got this Project Blue Book file from the FBI archives. 523 00:27:38,075 --> 00:27:41,315 And the first page I want to really go over with you 524 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:46,150 is this one that indeed reads "UFO fact sheet." 525 00:27:46,175 --> 00:27:49,563 Okay, so this is basically a summary of the position 526 00:27:49,588 --> 00:27:51,034 with regard to Project Blue Book. 527 00:27:51,059 --> 00:27:53,375 - Right, the official statement. - Okay. 528 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,073 And so, this says, 529 00:27:55,098 --> 00:27:57,817 "Since the termination of Project Blue Book, 530 00:27:58,005 --> 00:28:00,816 "no evidence has been presented to indicate 531 00:28:00,849 --> 00:28:03,001 "that further investigation of UFOs 532 00:28:03,026 --> 00:28:04,616 by the Air Force is warranted." 533 00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:05,620 "Terminated." 534 00:28:05,645 --> 00:28:10,690 Well, was the program really terminated? That's my question. 535 00:28:10,715 --> 00:28:14,187 Absolutely. And if it was, what took its place? 536 00:28:14,212 --> 00:28:15,590 Well, yes, the Air Force 537 00:28:15,615 --> 00:28:17,951 isn't suddenly going to stop being interested 538 00:28:17,976 --> 00:28:20,959 in uncorrelated targets in its airspace. 539 00:28:20,984 --> 00:28:23,471 Right, absolutely. And the second document, 540 00:28:23,496 --> 00:28:25,129 I really want you to weigh in on. 541 00:28:25,154 --> 00:28:26,450 It doesn't make sense. 542 00:28:26,475 --> 00:28:30,472 Wow. 12,618 sightings. 543 00:28:30,497 --> 00:28:31,662 That's a lot. 544 00:28:31,687 --> 00:28:36,291 And 701 of them remained completely unidentified. 545 00:28:36,316 --> 00:28:37,871 That's a staggering amount. 546 00:28:37,896 --> 00:28:41,487 These are the cases that were properly investigated, 547 00:28:41,512 --> 00:28:45,272 interviewed witnesses, radar tapes were looked at, 548 00:28:45,297 --> 00:28:47,807 and still no answers found. 549 00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:51,775 Wait a minute. Here, look. Here it is. 550 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,016 At the end of the program, the unknowns drop. 551 00:28:56,041 --> 00:29:00,692 They go from 32 to 19 to three and one. 552 00:29:00,717 --> 00:29:04,021 I smell a rat. They've cooked the books. 553 00:29:04,853 --> 00:29:08,032 - They can't pull the plug on the program... - Right. 554 00:29:08,033 --> 00:29:10,207 ...if you've still got a high number of unknowns. 555 00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:12,927 So they clearly pushed those cases 556 00:29:12,928 --> 00:29:15,394 out of the unidentified column 557 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:18,909 and into the cases that are explained, at least publicly. 558 00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:21,001 This is their way out. 559 00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:26,817 Was Project Blue Book officially shut down 560 00:29:26,818 --> 00:29:29,451 because it had simply found no convincing evidence 561 00:29:29,452 --> 00:29:31,502 that UFOs were real? 562 00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,971 Or was it because the government 563 00:29:33,972 --> 00:29:36,189 had come to the opposite conclusion, 564 00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:41,669 that not only were they real but of extraterrestrial origin, 565 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:45,727 a truth that could be so potentially disturbing, 566 00:29:45,728 --> 00:29:49,702 it needed to be covered up even deeper than before? 567 00:29:53,675 --> 00:29:55,765 As far as UFO researchers 568 00:29:55,766 --> 00:29:58,485 and ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 569 00:29:58,486 --> 00:30:01,790 proof that the U.S. government has not only known 570 00:30:01,791 --> 00:30:04,634 about extraterrestrial activity on our planet, 571 00:30:04,635 --> 00:30:07,814 but has been systematically covering it up for decades, 572 00:30:07,815 --> 00:30:09,655 first came in the form 573 00:30:09,656 --> 00:30:12,877 of a single roll of 35-millimeter film, 574 00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:15,722 anonymously sent to a documentary filmmaker 575 00:30:15,723 --> 00:30:20,408 by the name of Jaime Shandera in 1984. 576 00:30:21,623 --> 00:30:23,588 The film, when developed, 577 00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:25,931 showed images of an eight-page memo 578 00:30:25,932 --> 00:30:28,650 allegedly written in 1952 579 00:30:28,651 --> 00:30:32,917 by the first director of the CIA, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, 580 00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:36,139 to President-elect Dwight Eisenhower. 581 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:39,903 In it, Hillenkoetter informs Eisenhower 582 00:30:39,904 --> 00:30:43,293 of the existence of a top secret government think tank 583 00:30:43,294 --> 00:30:45,134 that was originally set up 584 00:30:45,135 --> 00:30:48,731 by President Harry S. Truman in 1947. 585 00:30:48,732 --> 00:30:52,999 It was referred to in the memo as MJ-12, 586 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,057 initials which stood for a far more mysterious group of men 587 00:30:57,058 --> 00:30:59,861 known as the Majestic 12. 588 00:30:59,862 --> 00:31:02,664 The authorization to establish MJ-12 589 00:31:02,665 --> 00:31:05,215 allegedly came from President Harry Truman 590 00:31:05,216 --> 00:31:07,934 on September 24, 1947. 591 00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:13,080 This was actually one day after the famous memo 592 00:31:13,081 --> 00:31:15,423 in which General Nathan Twining wrote 593 00:31:15,424 --> 00:31:17,265 a three-page letter about these flying saucers 594 00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:18,896 to another general, 595 00:31:18,897 --> 00:31:21,949 talking quite explicitly about their characteristics, 596 00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:25,130 the fact that this was real, not visionary or fictitious. 597 00:31:25,131 --> 00:31:29,482 No one anywhere, outside of this group, 598 00:31:29,483 --> 00:31:32,870 is to know anything about UFOs, 599 00:31:32,871 --> 00:31:37,766 E.T.s, crash retrievals, bodies, any of it. 600 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,534 That document identified the 12 people 601 00:31:42,535 --> 00:31:45,043 who were MJ-1 through MJ-12. 602 00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:47,052 The first one, MJ-1, 603 00:31:47,053 --> 00:31:49,897 was Admiral Hillenkoetter of the Navy. 604 00:31:49,898 --> 00:31:52,156 There were four military people, 605 00:31:52,157 --> 00:31:53,998 there were four technical people, 606 00:31:53,999 --> 00:31:57,554 and then there were just general government people. 607 00:31:57,555 --> 00:31:59,436 They were the kind of people you'd expect 608 00:31:59,437 --> 00:32:02,491 to have been involved in an important top secret program. 609 00:32:02,492 --> 00:32:04,958 While the authenticity 610 00:32:04,959 --> 00:32:08,181 of the MJ-12 documents is still being debated, 611 00:32:08,182 --> 00:32:10,146 what is known is that, 612 00:32:10,147 --> 00:32:14,664 in 1954, Eisenhower thought enough of the UFO phenomenon 613 00:32:14,665 --> 00:32:19,350 to order that a new secret military base be set up. 614 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:24,371 Located 83 miles northwest of Las Vegas, Nevada, 615 00:32:24,372 --> 00:32:27,049 Area 51 would later become infamous 616 00:32:27,050 --> 00:32:31,316 as the most top secret military base in the world. 617 00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:36,252 Area 51 is the secret base of all secret bases. 618 00:32:36,253 --> 00:32:38,930 For a long time, it was the place 619 00:32:38,931 --> 00:32:43,281 that we went to to study foreign technology. 620 00:32:43,282 --> 00:32:46,168 During the 1970s and '80s, 621 00:32:46,169 --> 00:32:48,971 T.D. Barnes worked at the secret base, 622 00:32:48,972 --> 00:32:51,984 reverse-engineering captured enemy aircraft, 623 00:32:51,985 --> 00:32:54,326 like Russian MiG jets. 624 00:32:54,327 --> 00:32:56,838 What we considered reverse-engineering was... 625 00:32:56,839 --> 00:33:00,100 was taking a plane or a radar, 626 00:33:00,101 --> 00:33:02,108 taking it apart, looking at the electronics, 627 00:33:02,109 --> 00:33:03,698 how they built it. 628 00:33:03,699 --> 00:33:06,042 We were all bound by security oaths. 629 00:33:06,043 --> 00:33:07,463 We could not talk. 630 00:33:07,464 --> 00:33:09,472 But is it possible that, 631 00:33:09,473 --> 00:33:11,271 in addition to reverse-engineering 632 00:33:11,272 --> 00:33:13,069 foreign fighter jets, 633 00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:16,458 Area 51 employees were also working on other, 634 00:33:16,459 --> 00:33:19,596 out-of-this-world technologies? 635 00:33:19,597 --> 00:33:22,692 To my mind, it's also clear that the U.S. government 636 00:33:22,693 --> 00:33:26,458 has had crashed extraterrestrial technology, 637 00:33:26,459 --> 00:33:29,469 and Area 51 would have been the perfect place 638 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:33,319 to reverse-engineer and test that particular information. 639 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,704 In order to insure that the activities 640 00:33:35,705 --> 00:33:39,635 at Area 51 and elsewhere were kept hidden from the public, 641 00:33:39,636 --> 00:33:42,063 members of the military, and even officers, 642 00:33:42,064 --> 00:33:44,573 were sworn to secrecy. 643 00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:48,421 But luckily for UFO researchers and ancient astronaut theorists, 644 00:33:48,422 --> 00:33:52,229 not everyone involved was willing to keep quiet. 645 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:54,572 Some became whistleblowers, 646 00:33:54,573 --> 00:33:57,625 who risked everything from public scorn to imprisonment, 647 00:33:57,626 --> 00:34:01,434 in order to let the public learn the truth. 648 00:34:03,694 --> 00:34:05,701 Washington state. 649 00:34:05,702 --> 00:34:08,504 June 24, 1947. 650 00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:12,520 Aviator and businessman Kenneth Arnold 651 00:34:12,521 --> 00:34:14,989 witnesses nine fast-moving objects 652 00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:18,043 flying in tandem near Mount Rainier. 653 00:34:18,044 --> 00:34:21,850 He times them as they fly between two mountain peaks, 654 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,356 and calculates their speed 655 00:34:23,357 --> 00:34:27,749 to be between 1,200 and 1,700 miles per hour, 656 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,760 at least 600 miles per hour faster 657 00:34:30,761 --> 00:34:34,903 than the fastest aircraft in existence at the time. 658 00:34:34,904 --> 00:34:37,956 Kenneth Arnold is the guy who actually is credited 659 00:34:37,957 --> 00:34:40,216 with coining the term "flying saucer," 660 00:34:40,217 --> 00:34:43,396 because what he saw were objects that were flying 661 00:34:43,397 --> 00:34:45,613 at some distance from his airplane 662 00:34:45,614 --> 00:34:48,710 that were sort of skipping and jumping and wobbling 663 00:34:48,711 --> 00:34:51,303 and doing very, very unusual high-speed maneuvers. 664 00:34:51,304 --> 00:34:54,023 So that's where the term "flying saucer" came from. 665 00:34:54,024 --> 00:34:57,328 Although the U.S. Air Force formally categorized 666 00:34:57,329 --> 00:35:00,381 Kenneth Arnold's experience as a mirage, 667 00:35:00,382 --> 00:35:04,523 other reported sightings were not so easily dismissed. 668 00:35:04,524 --> 00:35:08,080 The public was starting to demand answers. 669 00:35:08,081 --> 00:35:10,381 Once the initial sighting happened by Kenneth Arnold, 670 00:35:10,382 --> 00:35:13,561 and the Roswell incident took place, 671 00:35:13,562 --> 00:35:17,285 there were sightings everywhere around the United States. 672 00:35:17,286 --> 00:35:19,836 They were happening all over the world. 673 00:35:22,095 --> 00:35:26,989 In 1949, retired Marine Corps pilot-turned-writer 674 00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:30,965 Major Donald Keyhoe was asked by True magazine 675 00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:34,478 to write an article on these numerous sightings. 676 00:35:34,479 --> 00:35:36,990 Although Keyhoe was a skeptic, 677 00:35:36,991 --> 00:35:39,835 he spent the next eight months conducting his own research 678 00:35:39,836 --> 00:35:42,261 by tapping into his contacts in the Pentagon 679 00:35:42,262 --> 00:35:44,519 and the military. 680 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,030 Eventually, he came to a conclusion 681 00:35:47,031 --> 00:35:49,708 he would have considered unthinkable: 682 00:35:49,709 --> 00:35:52,888 flying saucers were not only real, 683 00:35:52,889 --> 00:35:57,113 they were of extraterrestrial origin. 684 00:35:57,114 --> 00:35:59,078 Major Keyhoe 685 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,760 was one of the last real military voices, 686 00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:05,271 from the time of the Truman administration 687 00:36:05,272 --> 00:36:07,488 going into the Eisenhower administration, 688 00:36:07,489 --> 00:36:12,928 who was honestly trying to tell the truth. 689 00:36:12,929 --> 00:36:16,819 Keyhoe's article in True magazine shook the nation. 690 00:36:16,820 --> 00:36:19,662 It was not only a solid piece of journalism 691 00:36:19,663 --> 00:36:22,843 on the topic of UFOs, 692 00:36:22,844 --> 00:36:24,767 but served as a stinging indictment 693 00:36:24,768 --> 00:36:27,695 of the U.S. military and the government's determination 694 00:36:27,696 --> 00:36:30,666 to keep the public in the dark. 695 00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:34,725 That True magazine, it was historic because 696 00:36:34,726 --> 00:36:37,108 it went to a heck of a lot of people. 697 00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:39,578 Then, in 1958, Keyhoe went on a program 698 00:36:39,579 --> 00:36:41,418 called the Armstrong Circle Theatre, 699 00:36:41,419 --> 00:36:43,091 which was a live television program. 700 00:36:43,093 --> 00:36:46,438 "The Enigma of the Skies" 701 00:36:46,439 --> 00:36:49,786 on the Armstrong Circle Theatre. 702 00:36:49,787 --> 00:36:53,300 Major, you've seen our report on the Air Force conclusions 703 00:36:53,301 --> 00:36:55,602 dealing with the current UFO sightings. 704 00:36:57,151 --> 00:36:58,906 Well, I was excited to hear that 705 00:36:58,907 --> 00:37:01,667 Keyhoe was going to debate the Air Force. 706 00:37:01,668 --> 00:37:04,806 And now, Mr. Edwards, I would like to make a disclosure, 707 00:37:04,807 --> 00:37:07,609 something which has never been revealed to the public. 708 00:37:07,610 --> 00:37:10,872 Toward the end of the program, he broke in and said, 709 00:37:10,873 --> 00:37:13,884 to the effect, "I'm going to say something 710 00:37:13,885 --> 00:37:15,892 that the public has never heard before." 711 00:37:15,893 --> 00:37:18,277 If the hearings are held, open hearings, 712 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,374 I feel it will prove beyond doubt that flying saucers... 713 00:37:23,967 --> 00:37:27,606 At that point, his sound was lost. 714 00:37:27,607 --> 00:37:32,795 What was Major Keyhoe saying, and who cut him off? 715 00:37:34,846 --> 00:37:35,890 Thank you, Major Keyhoe. 716 00:37:35,891 --> 00:37:38,400 It was later discovered 717 00:37:38,401 --> 00:37:40,533 that Air Force officials had been stationed 718 00:37:40,534 --> 00:37:43,212 in the control booth during the broadcast. 719 00:37:43,213 --> 00:37:45,847 And there are many who still believe that Keyhoe's audio 720 00:37:45,848 --> 00:37:49,654 was deliberately cut in order to keep him from revealing 721 00:37:49,655 --> 00:37:53,380 top secret information concerning the government's 722 00:37:53,381 --> 00:37:54,885 ongoing UFO investigations. 723 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,609 The Air Force was lying. 724 00:38:00,534 --> 00:38:03,711 But why was the Air Force so concerned about 725 00:38:03,712 --> 00:38:06,765 the American public hearing Major Keyhoe's statement? 726 00:38:06,766 --> 00:38:10,489 What did they have to lose if they were forced to admit 727 00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:14,380 their ongoing investigations into UFOs? 728 00:38:14,381 --> 00:38:16,305 I wrote this down because I think 729 00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:19,358 it's one of the most important historic sentences, 730 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,912 and it comes from Major Keyhoe. 731 00:38:21,913 --> 00:38:26,555 "For the past 175 years..." 732 00:38:26,556 --> 00:38:29,273 That would be 1772. 733 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:32,872 That would be before the founding of the United States. 734 00:38:32,874 --> 00:38:37,559 "...the planet Earth has been under systematic, 735 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,408 "close-range examination by 736 00:38:41,409 --> 00:38:46,345 living observers from another planet." 737 00:38:47,641 --> 00:38:50,277 This is nothing new. 738 00:38:50,278 --> 00:38:51,825 These cover-ups have happened 739 00:38:51,826 --> 00:38:54,125 for thousands and thousands of years. 740 00:38:54,126 --> 00:38:57,348 Throughout ancient texts, there are references 741 00:38:57,349 --> 00:39:00,987 to what I call "misunderstood technology." 742 00:39:00,988 --> 00:39:03,496 In modern times, 743 00:39:03,497 --> 00:39:06,678 you'll hear stories of UFOs and spacecraft, 744 00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,353 because now we have the language to talk about technology. 745 00:39:09,354 --> 00:39:12,282 Whereas in ancient times, they didn't have any reference 746 00:39:12,283 --> 00:39:14,500 to that kind of technology. 747 00:39:14,501 --> 00:39:16,426 So they would have thought this is something 748 00:39:16,427 --> 00:39:19,772 that's angelic or from another dimension or god-like. 749 00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:25,252 The fact that the U.S. government has investigated 750 00:39:25,253 --> 00:39:28,097 thousands and thousands of reports 751 00:39:28,098 --> 00:39:31,026 leads me to think that 752 00:39:31,027 --> 00:39:36,090 they may know much more than what they let us believe. 753 00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:46,087 Proof of the U.S. government's complicity 754 00:39:46,088 --> 00:39:48,682 in covering up extraterrestrial activity 755 00:39:48,683 --> 00:39:51,735 does not only come in the form of leaked documents 756 00:39:51,736 --> 00:39:54,539 and the contents of secret files. 757 00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:57,759 Sometimes the evidence comes 758 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,689 from credible firsthand accounts, 759 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:05,959 not from whistleblowers, but from American astronauts. 760 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,475 Everything that NASA does is supposedly aboveboard. 761 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:12,779 Everything they do, they should tell us about. 762 00:40:12,780 --> 00:40:15,122 We should know about all of their launches 763 00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:18,720 and missions and who all the astronauts are. 764 00:40:18,721 --> 00:40:22,067 They themselves are not sharing all of the information. 765 00:40:22,068 --> 00:40:24,788 Most of it is being kept secret. 766 00:40:31,432 --> 00:40:34,317 The Baikonur Cosmodrome. 767 00:40:34,318 --> 00:40:38,081 April 12, 1961. 768 00:40:38,082 --> 00:40:42,183 The Vostok-1 rocket achieves liftoff, 769 00:40:42,184 --> 00:40:45,361 and Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin 770 00:40:45,362 --> 00:40:48,166 is heralded as the first human in space. 771 00:40:49,463 --> 00:40:51,470 The event serves as a wake-up call 772 00:40:51,471 --> 00:40:54,064 to the United States and NASA, 773 00:40:54,065 --> 00:40:58,247 whose Project Mercury program would, over the next two years, 774 00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:01,259 launch six of its own astronauts into space. 775 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:03,269 The Space Race... 776 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:06,155 To land a human being on the Moon... was on, 777 00:41:06,156 --> 00:41:10,003 and mankind was now a space-faring species. 778 00:41:10,004 --> 00:41:12,933 The achievement of putting a man in space 779 00:41:12,934 --> 00:41:14,815 was almost a miracle. 780 00:41:14,816 --> 00:41:19,164 Nobody knows what they might see or encounter out there, 781 00:41:19,165 --> 00:41:22,681 extraterrestrial spacecraft or even E.T.s themselves. 782 00:41:22,682 --> 00:41:23,893 Liftoff. 783 00:41:23,894 --> 00:41:25,316 Although the first five 784 00:41:25,317 --> 00:41:26,906 Mercury missions go off without incident... 785 00:41:26,907 --> 00:41:29,457 Liftoff 30 minutes after the hour. 786 00:41:29,458 --> 00:41:31,927 ...during the sixth and final mission, 787 00:41:31,928 --> 00:41:36,110 astronaut Gordon Cooper reports an unusual encounter. 788 00:41:36,111 --> 00:41:39,750 While aboard his spacecraft, he reports 789 00:41:39,751 --> 00:41:43,431 a green glowing object quickly approaching his capsule. 790 00:41:43,432 --> 00:41:47,155 The UFO is also picked up by NASA's tracking station. 791 00:41:47,156 --> 00:41:50,796 But by the time Cooper splashes down 792 00:41:50,797 --> 00:41:54,602 in the Pacific Ocean, reporters are told 793 00:41:54,603 --> 00:41:58,493 that any questions about the incident are strictly forbidden. 794 00:41:58,494 --> 00:42:02,844 There's no question that NASA actually has protocols in place 795 00:42:02,845 --> 00:42:06,023 for how astronauts should deal with 796 00:42:06,024 --> 00:42:08,951 and report or not report anomalies. 797 00:42:08,952 --> 00:42:12,048 Now, over the years, there have been astronauts 798 00:42:12,049 --> 00:42:13,931 that have kind of broken those protocols. 799 00:42:13,932 --> 00:42:17,319 Gordon Cooper is one who talked a lot about a UFO sighting 800 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,747 he had on a Mercury spacecraft. 801 00:42:19,748 --> 00:42:22,635 And that upset quite a few people at NASA. 802 00:42:24,097 --> 00:42:27,276 In June 1965, 803 00:42:27,277 --> 00:42:30,121 two years after Gordon Cooper's flight, 804 00:42:30,122 --> 00:42:33,845 Gemini 4 astronaut James McDivitt 805 00:42:33,846 --> 00:42:36,230 reports seeing a metallic object 806 00:42:36,231 --> 00:42:39,703 flying in orbit alongside his spacecraft. 807 00:42:39,704 --> 00:42:44,471 And, once again, the event is quickly covered up. 808 00:42:44,472 --> 00:42:46,688 There have been many stories over the years 809 00:42:46,689 --> 00:42:48,655 coming from astronauts of various missions, 810 00:42:48,656 --> 00:42:50,748 from Mercury missions, from the Apollo missions, 811 00:42:50,749 --> 00:42:53,759 and even from the Soviet missions to space, 812 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,391 where astronauts have come out and said 813 00:42:55,392 --> 00:42:57,483 that they have seen these UFOs flying around, 814 00:42:57,484 --> 00:42:59,074 that they've been followed, 815 00:42:59,075 --> 00:43:00,748 that they've seen unconventional aircraft 816 00:43:00,749 --> 00:43:02,336 on some of their missions. 817 00:43:02,337 --> 00:43:04,972 There's a story that Buzz Aldrin tells 818 00:43:04,973 --> 00:43:07,691 about Apollo 11, where the Apollo 11 spacecraft 819 00:43:07,692 --> 00:43:11,037 was followed for many, many hours by an object 820 00:43:11,038 --> 00:43:13,382 that was so strange that they actually reported on it 821 00:43:13,383 --> 00:43:15,139 through their private channels. 822 00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:18,527 I'm looking out the window, and I see... 823 00:43:18,528 --> 00:43:20,618 What's that? 824 00:43:20,619 --> 00:43:25,012 There's an object that's moving with respect to everything else. 825 00:43:25,013 --> 00:43:27,355 Geez. It's not supposed to be doing that. 826 00:43:27,356 --> 00:43:29,031 Wonder how far away it is. 827 00:43:30,996 --> 00:43:34,468 If it's a long ways away, it's going mighty fast. 828 00:43:34,469 --> 00:43:38,945 If it's not too far away, it, uh, maybe isn't going very fast. 829 00:43:38,946 --> 00:43:41,873 Wonder what it is. 830 00:43:41,874 --> 00:43:43,839 "Hey, Neil. Look at this." 831 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,136 We look at it. 832 00:43:45,137 --> 00:43:47,190 God, what is that? 833 00:43:47,191 --> 00:43:51,757 Probably the, uh, upper stage rocket. 834 00:43:51,758 --> 00:43:55,276 Yeah, but didn't we just watch that thing carefully 835 00:43:55,277 --> 00:43:58,126 out in front of us, out the window, 836 00:43:58,127 --> 00:44:01,645 light its engine and go... 837 00:44:01,646 --> 00:44:04,829 Well, I guess that's not what we're looking at, 838 00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:06,506 'cause that's a long ways away. 839 00:44:06,507 --> 00:44:10,694 What's the odds that it's some alien 840 00:44:10,695 --> 00:44:12,959 or Russian or something else? 841 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,232 But we were not about to cancel the Moon mission 842 00:44:17,233 --> 00:44:20,375 and putt-putt over there to find out which one it was. 843 00:44:21,884 --> 00:44:23,810 There's been many astronauts 844 00:44:23,811 --> 00:44:26,492 that have come forward that have talked about this, 845 00:44:26,493 --> 00:44:29,550 so it seems like some of them want to talk about it, 846 00:44:29,551 --> 00:44:32,398 and others are either afraid to talk about it, 847 00:44:32,399 --> 00:44:34,577 or they've been silenced for some reason. 848 00:44:34,578 --> 00:44:39,144 One person involved with the early space program 849 00:44:39,145 --> 00:44:42,832 who did not remain silent was JoAnn Donaldson, 850 00:44:42,833 --> 00:44:45,764 a young biomedical engineer at NASA. 851 00:44:45,765 --> 00:44:51,715 In 1972, during the Apollo 17 Moon mission, 852 00:44:51,716 --> 00:44:55,401 Donaldson's job was to monitor the astronauts' vital signs 853 00:44:55,402 --> 00:44:59,465 and to observe their pre-flight and post-flight recovery. 854 00:44:59,466 --> 00:45:02,901 Ron Evans was in charge of the command module 855 00:45:02,902 --> 00:45:05,080 while Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt 856 00:45:05,081 --> 00:45:07,092 were on the surface of the Moon. 857 00:45:07,093 --> 00:45:10,316 When the command module would orbit the Moon, 858 00:45:10,317 --> 00:45:13,250 part of the orbit would take it behind the Moon, 859 00:45:13,251 --> 00:45:17,315 what we call "loss of signal" to Mission Control. 860 00:45:17,316 --> 00:45:21,379 Day two, Ron came out from behind the Moon, 861 00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:24,480 reported in to Mission Control. 862 00:45:24,481 --> 00:45:27,118 And Gene comes up on the comm link and says, 863 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,848 "Hey, Ron, you're not lonely up there without us are you?" 864 00:45:30,849 --> 00:45:34,828 And Ron reported back, says, "Nope, I got company." 865 00:45:34,829 --> 00:45:37,342 Everybody was just kind of taken aback. 866 00:45:37,343 --> 00:45:40,401 It was like, you know, "company"? 867 00:45:40,402 --> 00:45:43,836 That itself implies that there was something else 868 00:45:43,837 --> 00:45:45,848 up there with him. 869 00:45:45,849 --> 00:45:49,241 Well, Mission Control's first reaction was, 870 00:45:49,242 --> 00:45:50,876 "Guys, are you joking?" 871 00:45:50,877 --> 00:45:53,766 And Ron says, "No, this is not a joke. 872 00:45:53,767 --> 00:45:58,374 "There is an object flying in formation with me, 873 00:45:58,375 --> 00:46:00,555 up here, circling the Moon." 874 00:46:00,556 --> 00:46:05,037 When Ron reported that the object was leaving his orbit, 875 00:46:05,038 --> 00:46:08,137 he calculated that they had been in formation with him 876 00:46:08,138 --> 00:46:10,023 for approximately five 877 00:46:10,024 --> 00:46:12,955 to five-and-a-half orbits of the Moon. 878 00:46:12,956 --> 00:46:16,057 As far as the public was concerned, 879 00:46:16,058 --> 00:46:18,905 nothing out of the ordinary happened. 880 00:46:18,906 --> 00:46:21,922 At the exact moment that astronaut Ron Evans 881 00:46:21,923 --> 00:46:24,144 reported he was not alone, 882 00:46:24,145 --> 00:46:29,005 NASA officials disconnected the public feed for media outlets. 883 00:46:31,140 --> 00:46:33,193 The following day, NASA ordered 884 00:46:33,194 --> 00:46:36,838 a conference call for everyone involved in the incident. 885 00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:39,562 We were all told we're gonna continue on 886 00:46:39,563 --> 00:46:43,375 with the mission as if nothing has happened, 887 00:46:43,376 --> 00:46:46,265 and do not discuss this anomaly 888 00:46:46,266 --> 00:46:50,915 with anyone outside of your command. 889 00:46:50,916 --> 00:46:55,357 After the Apollo 17 crew splashed down 890 00:46:55,358 --> 00:46:59,715 in the Pacific Ocean, JoAnn Donaldson examined Evans 891 00:46:59,716 --> 00:47:02,522 as part of the post-mission recovery procedure. 892 00:47:02,523 --> 00:47:06,543 Ron was sitting up on the side of his bunk. 893 00:47:06,544 --> 00:47:10,147 And he goes, "Well, I'm reliving" 894 00:47:10,148 --> 00:47:13,039 "what I saw while I was in orbit around the Moon. 895 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,175 "I don't think the Russians had launched 896 00:47:15,176 --> 00:47:17,438 "something this big in orbit. 897 00:47:17,439 --> 00:47:20,244 "I estimate this thing was 40, 45 feet long. 898 00:47:20,245 --> 00:47:22,131 It was cigar shaped." 899 00:47:22,132 --> 00:47:24,478 Now, any cylindrical object like that 900 00:47:24,479 --> 00:47:27,410 is not gonna be something that we made. So what was it? 901 00:47:27,411 --> 00:47:30,552 Clearly it was not one of ours. 902 00:47:30,553 --> 00:47:32,229 We trust these astronauts 903 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:34,407 to report back on what they see. 904 00:47:34,408 --> 00:47:35,664 They're essentially scientists 905 00:47:35,665 --> 00:47:37,088 that are exploring space on our behalf. 906 00:47:37,089 --> 00:47:39,686 But a lot of people are unaware of the fact 907 00:47:39,687 --> 00:47:42,410 that many of our astronauts have spoken openly about UFOs. 908 00:47:42,411 --> 00:47:46,600 Many of them were fighter pilots before they became astronauts, 909 00:47:46,601 --> 00:47:50,119 and they have seen craft flying as pilots. 910 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,423 Could it be that they've been pulled aside and told, 911 00:47:52,424 --> 00:47:55,356 "This is all you're allowed to say and no more," 912 00:47:55,357 --> 00:47:57,451 because NASA is trying to silence 913 00:47:57,452 --> 00:47:59,337 these astronauts from telling the truth? 914 00:48:02,857 --> 00:48:04,658 Another Apollo astronaut 915 00:48:04,659 --> 00:48:07,968 who openly admitted his belief in extraterrestrial contact 916 00:48:07,969 --> 00:48:10,020 was Edgar Mitchell, 917 00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:12,786 the lunar module pilot for Apollo 14. 918 00:48:12,787 --> 00:48:16,432 In his later years, he claimed many of his colleagues 919 00:48:16,433 --> 00:48:19,069 had strange paranormal experiences 920 00:48:19,070 --> 00:48:22,423 during their missions, and frequently declared 921 00:48:22,424 --> 00:48:25,607 that most UFO phenomena are directly connected 922 00:48:25,608 --> 00:48:28,581 to extraterrestrial activity. 923 00:48:28,582 --> 00:48:32,814 I have had no firsthand personal experience, 924 00:48:32,815 --> 00:48:36,082 but all the evidence from the research people that I know 925 00:48:36,083 --> 00:48:38,680 from both Europe and the United States 926 00:48:38,681 --> 00:48:41,486 have investigated all the sightings 927 00:48:41,487 --> 00:48:44,462 from dozens of years. 928 00:48:44,463 --> 00:48:46,935 And it's pretty sure it's all true. 929 00:48:46,936 --> 00:48:52,882 I believe that the alien craft, presuming they're reality... 930 00:48:52,883 --> 00:48:54,894 I think they are, others think they are... 931 00:48:54,895 --> 00:48:57,072 Have been coming for a long, long time. 932 00:48:57,073 --> 00:49:01,095 As the sixth person to walk on the Moon, 933 00:49:01,096 --> 00:49:04,238 Mitchell's opinions concerning UFOs and their connection 934 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,763 to extraterrestrial encounters have been difficult to dismiss. 935 00:49:08,764 --> 00:49:10,858 But if otherworldly entities 936 00:49:10,859 --> 00:49:12,911 have been making contact with us... 937 00:49:12,912 --> 00:49:17,184 Not only for decades but for centuries... 938 00:49:17,185 --> 00:49:19,826 What is their goal? 939 00:49:22,748 --> 00:49:26,392 July 20, 1969. 940 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,096 Millions of people around the world 941 00:49:33,097 --> 00:49:35,274 are glued to their televisions 942 00:49:35,275 --> 00:49:39,128 to watch one of the greatest achievements in human history. 943 00:49:39,129 --> 00:49:41,643 Astronaut Neil Armstrong 944 00:49:41,644 --> 00:49:46,000 is about to become the first Earth-born extraterrestrial 945 00:49:46,001 --> 00:49:49,354 by stepping foot on the surface of the Moon. 946 00:49:55,974 --> 00:49:58,528 Although Richard Nixon 947 00:49:58,529 --> 00:50:00,623 is the current president of the United States, 948 00:50:00,624 --> 00:50:02,886 most give credit to the man 949 00:50:02,887 --> 00:50:05,273 who held the office six years earlier, 950 00:50:05,274 --> 00:50:08,291 John Fitzgerald Kennedy. 951 00:50:08,292 --> 00:50:13,109 Many years ago, the great British explorer George Mallory, 952 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:16,838 who was to die on Mount Everest, 953 00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:19,018 was asked why did he want to climb it. 954 00:50:19,019 --> 00:50:21,363 He said, "Because it is there." 955 00:50:21,364 --> 00:50:24,548 Well, space is there, and we're going to climb it. 956 00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:27,857 But even as Neil Armstrong 957 00:50:27,858 --> 00:50:30,079 and fellow astronaut Buzz Aldrin 958 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,550 were still engaged on their historic mission, 959 00:50:32,551 --> 00:50:35,901 Nixon and the team at NASA now faced 960 00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:40,091 an even more daunting challenge: What to do next? 961 00:50:40,092 --> 00:50:42,271 The Moon mission had gripped 962 00:50:42,272 --> 00:50:45,287 the American consciousness as nothing before, 963 00:50:45,288 --> 00:50:47,886 and even though a number of return missions 964 00:50:47,887 --> 00:50:50,357 had been planned, there was nothing on the launch pad 965 00:50:50,358 --> 00:50:52,913 that could top landing a man on the Moon 966 00:50:52,914 --> 00:50:55,092 as either a national goal 967 00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:57,899 or effective political propaganda. 968 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:01,914 To this end, in 1972, 969 00:51:01,915 --> 00:51:04,925 as Nixon began planning his reelection campaign, 970 00:51:04,926 --> 00:51:08,313 the space shuttle program was announced. 971 00:51:08,314 --> 00:51:10,780 It was also during this same time 972 00:51:10,781 --> 00:51:13,916 that the president's chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, 973 00:51:13,917 --> 00:51:16,804 proposed the creation of a documentary film 974 00:51:16,805 --> 00:51:19,647 that would depict Nixon as being fully committed 975 00:51:19,648 --> 00:51:21,321 to the development of a number 976 00:51:21,322 --> 00:51:23,997 of ambitious science-based programs. 977 00:51:23,998 --> 00:51:27,008 To produce it, Haldeman turned 978 00:51:27,009 --> 00:51:30,230 to successful advertising executive-turned-filmmaker 979 00:51:30,231 --> 00:51:32,989 Robert Emenegger. 980 00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:35,374 They knew that Bob had made promotional films 981 00:51:35,375 --> 00:51:37,550 for the Department of Defense. 982 00:51:37,551 --> 00:51:40,269 So he was contacted and asked 983 00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:42,609 if he would come to a meeting in Los Angeles 984 00:51:42,610 --> 00:51:44,616 with the Committee to Re-Elect the President. 985 00:51:44,617 --> 00:51:48,381 And they said, "We need a media consultant. 986 00:51:48,382 --> 00:51:50,431 "We'd like somebody to come on board 987 00:51:50,432 --> 00:51:53,777 "and make a documentary that would support Nixon, 988 00:51:53,778 --> 00:51:57,958 "a documentary about some perhaps secret project 989 00:51:57,959 --> 00:52:00,802 "that the government's been working on 990 00:52:00,803 --> 00:52:03,479 that can be released or declassified." 991 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,990 Well, they run around the country 992 00:52:05,991 --> 00:52:08,583 being shown all sorts of secret projects. 993 00:52:08,584 --> 00:52:11,468 They went to Wright-Patterson, and they were shown 994 00:52:11,469 --> 00:52:13,811 very classified laser experiments. 995 00:52:13,812 --> 00:52:18,746 They were shown dolphins being trained for demolition work. 996 00:52:18,747 --> 00:52:22,845 They were shown dogs being trained for various tasks. 997 00:52:22,846 --> 00:52:26,524 Then they were taken to Norton Air Force Base, 998 00:52:26,525 --> 00:52:30,249 which at that time housed the Air Force film depository. 999 00:52:30,250 --> 00:52:33,594 Paul Shartle was the director of the depository. 1000 00:52:33,595 --> 00:52:37,859 They were taken into a building where these films were kept. 1001 00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:41,080 They were taken into what was known as a clean room, 1002 00:52:41,081 --> 00:52:44,050 meaning it was free of any bugs, microphones, 1003 00:52:44,051 --> 00:52:46,600 video equipment, anything. 1004 00:52:46,601 --> 00:52:50,740 It was during his meeting at Norton Air Force Base 1005 00:52:50,741 --> 00:52:54,340 that Robert Emenegger learned that Paul Shartle had 1006 00:52:54,341 --> 00:52:57,559 a different agenda from that of the president, 1007 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,818 and a different film in mind than the one 1008 00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:03,373 that had been initially proposed. 1009 00:53:03,374 --> 00:53:06,719 Shartle said, "I'd like to ask you this: 1010 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:11,528 How would you like to make a documentary on UFOs?" 1011 00:53:11,529 --> 00:53:13,286 And Bob Emenegger was stunned. 1012 00:53:13,287 --> 00:53:15,544 He told me at his home, 1013 00:53:15,545 --> 00:53:17,761 he said, "I didn't know anything about UFOs." 1014 00:53:17,762 --> 00:53:19,183 "I was shocked. 1015 00:53:19,184 --> 00:53:22,528 "They said if we would make the documentary, 1016 00:53:22,529 --> 00:53:27,422 "we would be given 600 feet of 16-millimeter film 1017 00:53:27,423 --> 00:53:32,023 shot at Holloman Air Force Base of a UFO landing there." 1018 00:53:32,024 --> 00:53:34,448 For Robert Emenegger, 1019 00:53:34,449 --> 00:53:37,292 it was an offer too good to refuse. 1020 00:53:37,293 --> 00:53:39,009 Believing he had the full support 1021 00:53:39,010 --> 00:53:41,392 of both the president and the military, 1022 00:53:41,393 --> 00:53:43,357 he set about to make the U.S. government's 1023 00:53:43,358 --> 00:53:47,039 first official film on the subject of UFOs. 1024 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,923 He quickly recruited Rod Serling, 1025 00:53:49,924 --> 00:53:53,855 Burgess Meredith and José Ferrer to narrate the film, 1026 00:53:53,856 --> 00:53:57,913 and the final explosive scene was to show actual footage 1027 00:53:57,914 --> 00:54:00,923 of an alien encounter. 1028 00:54:00,924 --> 00:54:02,890 But when it came time to receive 1029 00:54:02,891 --> 00:54:05,064 the incredible footage he'd been promised, 1030 00:54:05,065 --> 00:54:08,619 Emenegger had the government's once-open door 1031 00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:11,588 slammed in his face. 1032 00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:16,232 They had been promised really dramatic footage, 1033 00:54:16,233 --> 00:54:20,037 said to be completely legit, of a UFO landing 1034 00:54:20,038 --> 00:54:23,633 at Holloman Air Force Base, in 1964, 1035 00:54:23,634 --> 00:54:25,391 which had alien beings come out, 1036 00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:27,859 like The Day the Earth Stood Still, essentially. 1037 00:54:27,860 --> 00:54:31,624 Out came some kind of a ramp. 1038 00:54:31,625 --> 00:54:34,885 Our contingent of humans walked up, 1039 00:54:34,886 --> 00:54:36,685 met these two EBENs, 1040 00:54:36,686 --> 00:54:39,402 "Extraterrestrial Biological Entities." 1041 00:54:39,403 --> 00:54:45,091 And then in this doorway was a being unlike the EBENs, 1042 00:54:45,092 --> 00:54:48,059 and that it was holding a rod that had a spiral 1043 00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:51,448 that went around the rod, and that this was used 1044 00:54:51,449 --> 00:54:54,334 to communicate with our team. 1045 00:54:54,335 --> 00:54:56,802 This was a film 1046 00:54:56,803 --> 00:54:59,143 that had four different vantage points. 1047 00:54:59,144 --> 00:55:01,654 They were shooting one from the air, three on the ground. 1048 00:55:01,655 --> 00:55:03,829 And the craft landed, 1049 00:55:03,830 --> 00:55:06,964 the aliens came out, and they stored the craft. 1050 00:55:06,965 --> 00:55:08,721 All this was on film. 1051 00:55:08,722 --> 00:55:12,820 But on the day Emenegger was to be given a copy 1052 00:55:12,821 --> 00:55:15,539 of the 16-millimeter footage from the Air Force, 1053 00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:18,636 the filmmaker received an unexpected phone call. 1054 00:55:20,643 --> 00:55:23,568 It is one of those like out of a Hollywood feature. 1055 00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:27,752 It's supposed to be coming. A courier is on the way. 1056 00:55:27,753 --> 00:55:30,471 They cannot believe it. It's really gonna happen. 1057 00:55:30,472 --> 00:55:32,938 They're gonna see all of this film. 1058 00:55:32,939 --> 00:55:35,280 And then another phone call: 1059 00:55:35,281 --> 00:55:38,418 "We're sorry, the approval has been rescinded. 1060 00:55:38,419 --> 00:55:40,300 No film." 1061 00:55:40,301 --> 00:55:43,645 Colonel Coleman from the Pentagon said, 1062 00:55:43,646 --> 00:55:45,277 "The timing isn't right. 1063 00:55:45,278 --> 00:55:48,163 We can't allow you to use the film." 1064 00:55:48,164 --> 00:55:50,170 Bob Emenegger was crushed. 1065 00:55:50,171 --> 00:55:51,800 He said, "Why?" 1066 00:55:51,801 --> 00:55:55,022 And he found out that, "Making a documentary 1067 00:55:55,023 --> 00:55:58,576 "exposing UFOs as being extraterrestrial 1068 00:55:58,577 --> 00:56:02,885 would not help the president, but conceivably could harm him." 1069 00:56:02,886 --> 00:56:05,728 Ultimately, Robert Emenegger 1070 00:56:05,729 --> 00:56:08,740 was forced to complete his documentary 1071 00:56:08,741 --> 00:56:12,212 without the sensational footage he had been promised. 1072 00:56:12,213 --> 00:56:13,593 It was a documentary called 1073 00:56:13,594 --> 00:56:15,599 Past, Present, and Future. 1074 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,774 And they also had a book by the same name. 1075 00:56:17,775 --> 00:56:20,702 As written by Robert Emenegger, 1076 00:56:20,703 --> 00:56:23,756 and directed by Ray Rivas, the documentary 1077 00:56:23,757 --> 00:56:26,976 proved to be both popular and influential. 1078 00:56:26,977 --> 00:56:30,823 Even without the smoking gun footage, it caused a sensation, 1079 00:56:30,824 --> 00:56:35,006 and was later credited as one of the inspirations 1080 00:56:35,007 --> 00:56:38,520 behind Steven Spielberg's 1977 blockbuster 1081 00:56:38,521 --> 00:56:42,702 Close Encounters of the Third Kind. 1082 00:56:42,703 --> 00:56:44,750 The Robert Emenegger disclosure effort 1083 00:56:44,751 --> 00:56:46,591 is what I call it. 1084 00:56:46,592 --> 00:56:49,351 I said, "You know, that film, Bob, that's very strange." 1085 00:56:49,352 --> 00:56:51,569 "You know, if it weren't for the location, 1086 00:56:51,570 --> 00:56:53,242 that's Close Encounters of the Third Kind." 1087 00:56:53,243 --> 00:56:55,877 And he said, "What, I didn't tell you?" 1088 00:56:55,878 --> 00:56:58,136 And I said, "You didn't tell me what?" 1089 00:56:58,137 --> 00:57:00,436 "I didn't tell you I gave a copy to Steven Spielberg?" 1090 00:57:00,437 --> 00:57:02,737 And I said, "No, you didn't tell me that." 1091 00:57:02,738 --> 00:57:05,915 So the documentary was done in 1975. 1092 00:57:05,916 --> 00:57:07,964 Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1093 00:57:07,965 --> 00:57:10,809 came out in 1977. 1094 00:57:10,810 --> 00:57:13,319 And so, when you see Close Encounters of the Third Kind, 1095 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,283 it's the Holloman Air Force Base story, 1096 00:57:15,284 --> 00:57:16,998 just changed the location. 1097 00:57:16,999 --> 00:57:19,465 It's exactly what the story was. 1098 00:57:19,466 --> 00:57:22,855 While the alleged alien UFO footage 1099 00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:25,823 from Holloman Air Force Base has never surfaced, 1100 00:57:25,824 --> 00:57:29,546 many ancient astronaut theorists believe it still exists, 1101 00:57:29,547 --> 00:57:32,055 under lock and key. 1102 00:57:32,056 --> 00:57:37,910 What I am really truly expecting is that somewhere, 1103 00:57:37,911 --> 00:57:41,549 from 2018, going forward in the next decade, 1104 00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:48,283 that finally all of that film is going to be released, 1105 00:57:48,284 --> 00:57:52,799 and that we will finally enter the true history. 1106 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,481 Did the U.S. Air Force really have footage 1107 00:57:56,482 --> 00:57:58,949 of secret meetings between government officials 1108 00:57:58,950 --> 00:58:01,542 and extraterrestrials? 1109 00:58:01,543 --> 00:58:05,934 And if so, where is it now? 1110 00:58:10,558 --> 00:58:12,502 Coming up... For decades, American presidents 1111 00:58:12,674 --> 00:58:16,102 have officially denied that they have received any information 1112 00:58:16,103 --> 00:58:19,113 that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth. 1113 00:58:19,114 --> 00:58:22,710 But considering that the U.S. government has conducted 1114 00:58:22,711 --> 00:58:26,391 at least four major investigations into UFO activity 1115 00:58:26,392 --> 00:58:28,398 since the 1940s, 1116 00:58:28,399 --> 00:58:32,581 why has there been so much time and taxpayer money devoted 1117 00:58:32,582 --> 00:58:34,171 to studying something 1118 00:58:34,172 --> 00:58:37,474 that the government claims isn't happening? 1119 00:58:37,475 --> 00:58:40,486 We don't know for an absolute fact 1120 00:58:40,487 --> 00:58:43,371 what kind of briefings presidents actually receive, 1121 00:58:43,372 --> 00:58:46,801 when they come into office, about extraterrestrials. 1122 00:58:46,802 --> 00:58:48,517 But we do have some indications 1123 00:58:48,518 --> 00:58:50,816 from some documents that do exist, 1124 00:58:50,817 --> 00:58:54,497 one of them being the original MJ-12 presidential briefing 1125 00:58:54,498 --> 00:58:56,212 for President Eisenhower, 1126 00:58:56,213 --> 00:58:58,847 telling him all about the crash at Roswell. 1127 00:58:59,726 --> 00:59:03,279 On November 2, 2005, 1128 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,458 a document surfaced that was allegedly a transcript 1129 00:59:06,459 --> 00:59:09,387 made from a recorded presidential briefing 1130 00:59:09,388 --> 00:59:14,237 held at Camp David in March of 1981. 1131 00:59:14,238 --> 00:59:18,336 Present were President Ronald Reagan, 1132 00:59:18,337 --> 00:59:20,762 CIA director William Casey, 1133 00:59:20,763 --> 00:59:23,271 Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 1134 00:59:23,272 --> 00:59:27,997 and a mysterious person known only as "The Caretaker." 1135 00:59:27,998 --> 00:59:31,260 According to the document, during the meeting, 1136 00:59:31,261 --> 00:59:33,895 The Caretaker shared evidence that aliens 1137 00:59:33,896 --> 00:59:37,702 have been visiting the Earth for thousands of years, 1138 00:59:37,703 --> 00:59:41,046 and that modern American records of such encounters 1139 00:59:41,047 --> 00:59:46,777 officially began in 1947, following the Roswell incident. 1140 00:59:46,778 --> 00:59:48,911 Certainly, if you look at Ronald Reagan, 1141 00:59:48,912 --> 00:59:51,712 he's somebody who brought up aliens all the time. 1142 00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:54,598 To my mind, what Reagan is communicating is, 1143 00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,778 "Yes, Roswell happened. Yes, it is significant. 1144 00:59:57,779 --> 00:59:59,617 "Yes, there are aliens. 1145 00:59:59,618 --> 01:00:02,629 "And we'd better get used to this idea 1146 01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:04,970 or figure out how to deal with them." 1147 01:00:04,971 --> 01:00:08,317 I, William Jefferson Clinton... 1148 01:00:08,318 --> 01:00:10,157 But it was with the inauguration 1149 01:00:10,158 --> 01:00:14,172 of President Bill Clinton in January 1993 1150 01:00:14,173 --> 01:00:16,514 that many UFO researchers believed 1151 01:00:16,515 --> 01:00:20,823 they finally had an ally in the White House. 1152 01:00:20,824 --> 01:00:25,213 If the United States Air Force did recover alien bodies, 1153 01:00:25,214 --> 01:00:27,389 they didn't tell me about it, either, 1154 01:00:27,390 --> 01:00:29,731 and I want to know. 1155 01:00:29,732 --> 01:00:33,411 So, when Bill Clinton gets into office, he called in 1156 01:00:33,412 --> 01:00:35,294 his presidential aide Webb Hubbell, 1157 01:00:35,295 --> 01:00:38,639 and the first two things that he asked for after he was president 1158 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,696 was who killed JFK and are there aliens. 1159 01:00:42,697 --> 01:00:46,711 Clinton knew that there was something up about aliens 1160 01:00:46,712 --> 01:00:50,434 and UFOs that people were not being told. 1161 01:00:50,435 --> 01:00:52,315 In his quest to shed light 1162 01:00:52,316 --> 01:00:54,994 on the government's secret UFO investigations, 1163 01:00:54,995 --> 01:00:58,381 President Clinton found an unlikely ally 1164 01:00:58,382 --> 01:01:02,020 in billionaire philanthropist Laurance S. Rockefeller, 1165 01:01:02,021 --> 01:01:04,738 who used his influence to push full disclosure 1166 01:01:04,739 --> 01:01:09,341 about possible extraterrestrial activities on Earth. 1167 01:01:11,181 --> 01:01:13,396 The way it started was Laurance Rockefeller, 1168 01:01:13,397 --> 01:01:16,199 who was one of the famous Rockefeller brothers, 1169 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,715 had been shown a documentary on Roswell 1170 01:01:20,716 --> 01:01:22,472 and was very interested. 1171 01:01:22,473 --> 01:01:24,145 So, the election was going on at the time, 1172 01:01:24,146 --> 01:01:27,281 and he said, "Whether Ross Perot wins or George Bush wins" 1173 01:01:27,282 --> 01:01:29,750 "or Bill Clinton wins, I'm going to the White House 1174 01:01:29,751 --> 01:01:34,267 and I'm going to get them to disclose the UFO story." 1175 01:01:34,268 --> 01:01:39,203 In 1993, Laurance Rockefeller began inviting 1176 01:01:39,204 --> 01:01:41,502 a select group of UFO researchers 1177 01:01:41,503 --> 01:01:43,636 and ancient astronaut theorists 1178 01:01:43,637 --> 01:01:46,021 to join him for an important first meeting 1179 01:01:46,022 --> 01:01:51,040 of what would become known as the Rockefeller Initiative. 1180 01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:54,889 In 1993, I got a phone call saying, 1181 01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:57,859 "Linda, we'd like you to join 1182 01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:59,866 "a group of your peers 1183 01:01:59,867 --> 01:02:04,049 at Laurance Rockefeller's ranch at Jackson Hole." 1184 01:02:04,050 --> 01:02:06,935 So, we met. 1185 01:02:06,936 --> 01:02:09,571 There were people like Robert Bigelow, 1186 01:02:09,572 --> 01:02:12,248 now the head of Bigelow Aerospace. 1187 01:02:12,249 --> 01:02:17,477 And there were others that were authors and scientists. 1188 01:02:17,478 --> 01:02:19,902 One of the people who helped edit the letter 1189 01:02:19,903 --> 01:02:22,497 on UFO disclosure to the president of the United States 1190 01:02:22,498 --> 01:02:23,627 was Hillary Clinton. 1191 01:02:23,628 --> 01:02:27,306 She was the first lady at the time. 1192 01:02:27,307 --> 01:02:29,983 Another person close to Bill Clinton 1193 01:02:29,984 --> 01:02:33,749 who was an advocate for government investigation of UFOs 1194 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:35,547 was John Podesta, 1195 01:02:35,548 --> 01:02:39,436 who served as the president's assistant in 1993 1196 01:02:39,437 --> 01:02:45,126 and became his deputy chief of staff in 1997. 1197 01:02:45,127 --> 01:02:49,099 I've had a long career, trying to fight 1198 01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:52,278 against government secrecy and create more openness. 1199 01:02:52,279 --> 01:02:54,622 Right after I left law school, I started working on that 1200 01:02:54,623 --> 01:02:56,085 at the Department of Justice, 1201 01:02:56,086 --> 01:02:57,799 then at the Senate Judiciary Committee. 1202 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,599 And then when I worked for President Clinton 1203 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,774 in the White House, I was one of the people 1204 01:03:01,775 --> 01:03:03,615 spearheading an initiative, 1205 01:03:03,616 --> 01:03:06,501 to declassify what turned out to be 1206 01:03:06,502 --> 01:03:08,592 over a billion pages of documents 1207 01:03:08,593 --> 01:03:11,561 that were resident at the National Archives. 1208 01:03:11,562 --> 01:03:13,194 In President Clinton's case, 1209 01:03:13,195 --> 01:03:15,368 I think he was interested in the phenomena. 1210 01:03:15,369 --> 01:03:18,380 He had worked with his then science advisor Jack Gibbons 1211 01:03:18,381 --> 01:03:21,182 to understand what was going on. 1212 01:03:21,183 --> 01:03:24,111 This correspondence starts going back and forth 1213 01:03:24,112 --> 01:03:25,408 for three years. 1214 01:03:25,409 --> 01:03:27,583 Rockefeller is putting immense pressure 1215 01:03:27,584 --> 01:03:29,717 on the White House to disclose. 1216 01:03:29,718 --> 01:03:32,268 Laurance Rockefeller requested 1217 01:03:32,269 --> 01:03:35,782 that the 1947 Roswell incident be a starting point 1218 01:03:35,783 --> 01:03:37,914 in the government's disclosure. 1219 01:03:37,915 --> 01:03:40,341 They went out and they reinvestigated Roswell. 1220 01:03:40,342 --> 01:03:41,972 It came back, 1221 01:03:41,973 --> 01:03:45,025 and Bill Clinton saw the final report in 1995. 1222 01:03:45,026 --> 01:03:48,329 President Clinton's one of 1223 01:03:48,330 --> 01:03:50,673 the most curious people I've ever met. 1224 01:03:50,674 --> 01:03:53,223 I think he wanted to know what the Air Force knew, 1225 01:03:53,224 --> 01:03:55,526 and got a report back that, in my view, 1226 01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:58,368 was a little bit unsatisfying. 1227 01:03:58,369 --> 01:04:00,419 He was furious, from what I was told. 1228 01:04:00,420 --> 01:04:02,844 The Rockefeller Initiative 1229 01:04:02,845 --> 01:04:04,854 was hoping for a revelation, 1230 01:04:04,855 --> 01:04:07,738 but the U.S. Air Force stuck to its position 1231 01:04:07,739 --> 01:04:12,926 that a crashed weather balloon caused the Roswell incident. 1232 01:04:12,927 --> 01:04:15,729 Clinton goes to Belfast, Northern Ireland, 1233 01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:17,819 in November of 1995. 1234 01:04:17,820 --> 01:04:19,494 He's lighting the Christmas tree, 1235 01:04:19,495 --> 01:04:21,793 and that's when he gives the famous speech. 1236 01:04:21,794 --> 01:04:24,513 He said he gets a letter from Ryan, 1237 01:04:24,514 --> 01:04:26,980 which I tried to recover in an FOIA. 1238 01:04:26,981 --> 01:04:30,412 There is no letter to Ryan. I think they just made it up. 1239 01:04:30,413 --> 01:04:33,296 He said, "Ryan, if you're out there in the audience tonight", 1240 01:04:33,297 --> 01:04:35,263 here's the answer to your question." 1241 01:04:35,264 --> 01:04:36,685 No. 1242 01:04:36,686 --> 01:04:39,865 As far as I know, an alien spacecraft 1243 01:04:39,866 --> 01:04:43,377 did not crash in Roswell, New Mexico. 1244 01:04:43,378 --> 01:04:47,225 And, Ryan, if the United States Air Force 1245 01:04:47,226 --> 01:04:49,862 did recover alien bodies, 1246 01:04:49,863 --> 01:04:54,379 they didn't tell me about it, either, and I want to know. 1247 01:04:54,380 --> 01:04:58,687 That's why in 1997 the U.S. Air Force goes out 1248 01:04:58,688 --> 01:05:01,322 and does a second Roswell report, 1249 01:05:01,323 --> 01:05:02,787 spends $20 million on it, 1250 01:05:02,788 --> 01:05:04,627 because the president was furious. 1251 01:05:04,628 --> 01:05:07,345 According to the revised report, 1252 01:05:07,346 --> 01:05:10,943 the so-called alien bodies that eyewitnesses claimed 1253 01:05:10,944 --> 01:05:13,076 they saw being pulled from the wreckage 1254 01:05:13,077 --> 01:05:17,343 were dismissed as being nothing more than crash test dummies 1255 01:05:17,344 --> 01:05:19,686 which had been tethered to parachutes being used 1256 01:05:19,687 --> 01:05:22,530 in an otherwise conventional test. 1257 01:05:22,531 --> 01:05:26,043 Dr. Gibbons pressed first the Secretary of Defense 1258 01:05:26,044 --> 01:05:28,345 Les Aspen, and then the Secretary of the Air Force, 1259 01:05:28,346 --> 01:05:31,565 to take this matter seriously, to do a review. 1260 01:05:31,566 --> 01:05:33,573 The boxes were missing. The documents were gone. 1261 01:05:33,574 --> 01:05:35,748 Nobody knew anything. 1262 01:05:35,749 --> 01:05:40,141 And, you know, the... the trail kind of went cold. 1263 01:05:41,563 --> 01:05:43,779 In 1996, 1264 01:05:43,780 --> 01:05:47,461 the Rockefeller Initiative was quietly closed, 1265 01:05:47,462 --> 01:05:49,091 and its participants... 1266 01:05:49,092 --> 01:05:50,932 Frustrated that forces within the government 1267 01:05:50,933 --> 01:05:53,651 still refused to reveal the truth... 1268 01:05:53,652 --> 01:05:57,877 Went away without the answers they'd hoped for. 1269 01:05:57,878 --> 01:06:00,804 The Rockefeller Initiative is considered by some researchers 1270 01:06:00,805 --> 01:06:04,275 to be the biggest government UFO disclosure story 1271 01:06:04,276 --> 01:06:05,866 of all times. 1272 01:06:05,867 --> 01:06:08,041 The fact that it even existed, 1273 01:06:08,042 --> 01:06:10,759 that it was sanctioned in any way by the government, 1274 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,893 that the report was accepted 1275 01:06:12,894 --> 01:06:14,900 by the White House and people in the government, 1276 01:06:14,901 --> 01:06:17,243 I think is very, very highly significant. 1277 01:06:17,244 --> 01:06:19,919 So it's kind of a very small incremental step forward 1278 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,305 in the process of disclosure 1279 01:06:22,306 --> 01:06:25,734 and moving us towards the ultimate answers 1280 01:06:25,735 --> 01:06:28,161 to the questions that we're all asking. 1281 01:06:30,061 --> 01:06:33,740 Washington, D.C. 1282 01:06:33,741 --> 01:06:37,088 July 1996. 1283 01:06:37,089 --> 01:06:39,598 Political activist Stephen Bassett 1284 01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,647 becomes the first registered 1285 01:06:41,648 --> 01:06:44,156 extraterrestrial life and disclosure lobbyist 1286 01:06:44,157 --> 01:06:46,835 in the United States. 1287 01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:50,013 For years, he had been trying to organize 1288 01:06:50,014 --> 01:06:52,356 a hearing with members of Congress 1289 01:06:52,357 --> 01:06:55,199 to present evidence that the government was hiding 1290 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,588 important information from its people. 1291 01:06:58,589 --> 01:07:03,105 The extraterrestrial presence, if formally acknowledged, 1292 01:07:03,106 --> 01:07:06,076 could bring in an age of reform, where the human race 1293 01:07:06,077 --> 01:07:07,707 could get its act together, 1294 01:07:07,708 --> 01:07:09,590 because we're running out of time. 1295 01:07:09,591 --> 01:07:12,935 As I got into the issue, 1296 01:07:12,936 --> 01:07:16,325 what I learned is just how dysfunctional 1297 01:07:16,326 --> 01:07:19,502 the United States government had become. 1298 01:07:19,503 --> 01:07:22,095 It is the vast expanse of secrecy 1299 01:07:22,096 --> 01:07:24,689 and abuse of secrecy in power that is lying 1300 01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:27,994 at the base of a great deal of our problems. 1301 01:07:27,995 --> 01:07:32,774 And so I had one simple fundamental task: 1302 01:07:32,775 --> 01:07:35,039 formal acknowledgment of the extraterrestrial presence, 1303 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,387 simple, clean and easy. 1304 01:07:37,388 --> 01:07:40,237 Gentlemen, if you could stand and repeat after me? 1305 01:07:40,238 --> 01:07:45,480 On April 29, 2013, Bassett organized 1306 01:07:45,481 --> 01:07:49,127 the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure in Washington, D.C. 1307 01:07:49,128 --> 01:07:51,811 The objective was to bring together 1308 01:07:51,812 --> 01:07:56,213 the most compelling evidence of extraterrestrial visits to Earth 1309 01:07:56,214 --> 01:07:58,688 and convince former members of Congress 1310 01:07:58,689 --> 01:08:00,407 to take immediate action. 1311 01:08:00,408 --> 01:08:03,551 I had wanted to do it since 2001... 1312 01:08:03,552 --> 01:08:06,948 Bring in 42 witnesses, from ten countries, 1313 01:08:06,949 --> 01:08:11,056 to testify in the main ballroom of the National Press Club, 1314 01:08:11,057 --> 01:08:14,160 before six former members of the Congress, 1315 01:08:14,161 --> 01:08:17,472 five congresspersons, one senator. 1316 01:08:17,473 --> 01:08:21,832 And they testified for 30 hours over five days. 1317 01:08:21,833 --> 01:08:24,014 It was an amazing event, 1318 01:08:24,015 --> 01:08:28,373 mostly because of the caliber of witnesses that were brought in, 1319 01:08:28,375 --> 01:08:30,721 the investigators, researchers. 1320 01:08:30,722 --> 01:08:32,734 They don't want you to know that. 1321 01:08:32,735 --> 01:08:35,040 Witnesses included John Callahan, 1322 01:08:35,041 --> 01:08:36,549 former division chief 1323 01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:38,941 of the Accidents and Investigations Branch 1324 01:08:38,942 --> 01:08:41,203 of the FAA, 1325 01:08:41,204 --> 01:08:44,642 the former Canadian Minister of Defence, Paul Hellyer, 1326 01:08:44,643 --> 01:08:48,165 retired Air Force captain Robert Salas, 1327 01:08:48,166 --> 01:08:51,518 and many others who had conducted extensive research 1328 01:08:51,519 --> 01:08:53,364 into the UFO phenomenon. 1329 01:08:53,365 --> 01:08:56,382 We live in a cosmos teeming with life. 1330 01:08:56,383 --> 01:08:58,689 The fact that some other civilizations 1331 01:08:58,690 --> 01:09:00,743 are more advanced than we are may be humbling, 1332 01:09:00,744 --> 01:09:04,349 but that could be a necessary step in our survival. 1333 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:07,830 People are so afraid for their lives, their families, 1334 01:09:07,831 --> 01:09:11,855 because they have had to sign nondisclosure agreements. 1335 01:09:11,856 --> 01:09:15,838 Witness from the U.K., Nick Pope. 1336 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:17,348 Thank you. 1337 01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:19,025 Um, you should all have a printed-out copy 1338 01:09:19,026 --> 01:09:20,744 of my opening statement. 1339 01:09:20,745 --> 01:09:23,805 I was one of the witnesses, and I have to say, 1340 01:09:23,806 --> 01:09:27,411 this was the nearest that we've gotten since, 1341 01:09:27,412 --> 01:09:30,430 oh, way back to the '70s and the '60s, even, 1342 01:09:30,431 --> 01:09:35,168 to proper congressional hearings on the UFO mystery. 1343 01:09:35,169 --> 01:09:39,151 You did work for the Ministry of Defence in the U.K.? 1344 01:09:39,152 --> 01:09:41,332 That's correct, sir, yes. 1345 01:09:41,333 --> 01:09:44,476 I was asked about my experience 1346 01:09:44,477 --> 01:09:47,830 within the British government's UFO program, 1347 01:09:47,831 --> 01:09:50,389 and one of the U.K.'s most high-profile cases, 1348 01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:52,903 the Rendlesham Forest incident. 1349 01:09:52,904 --> 01:09:56,175 In December 1980, 1350 01:09:56,176 --> 01:09:59,487 there were unexplained reports of a glowing craft in the woods 1351 01:09:59,488 --> 01:10:03,009 of Royal Air Force Base, Woodbridge. 1352 01:10:03,010 --> 01:10:07,664 Burn marks and broken branches were later discovered. 1353 01:10:07,665 --> 01:10:11,479 Some have called this incident "Britain's Roswell." 1354 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:15,169 Even though I've left government, I responded with, 1355 01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:18,229 "I can neither confirm nor deny." 1356 01:10:18,230 --> 01:10:20,873 I don't think the committee liked 1357 01:10:20,874 --> 01:10:23,723 my "neither confirm nor deny" response, 1358 01:10:23,724 --> 01:10:26,113 and they pushed me very hard on that. 1359 01:10:26,114 --> 01:10:28,629 Certainly, you've been involved since you left. 1360 01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:30,306 Yes, sir, in a private capacity. 1361 01:10:30,307 --> 01:10:31,563 What's your opinion, 1362 01:10:31,564 --> 01:10:33,912 based on all that stuff that you've had access to? 1363 01:10:33,913 --> 01:10:35,464 Is there an E.T. origin 1364 01:10:35,465 --> 01:10:40,075 to what's obvious sightings of real UFOs? 1365 01:10:40,076 --> 01:10:42,548 It is a... a possibility. 1366 01:10:42,549 --> 01:10:45,233 You could tell by the faces, 1367 01:10:45,234 --> 01:10:48,251 they really weren't quite sure what to think of this yet. 1368 01:10:48,252 --> 01:10:51,983 By Wednesday, we have them, you know, standing up, 1369 01:10:51,984 --> 01:10:55,632 pointing fingers, saying, "We need to open those files." 1370 01:10:55,633 --> 01:10:58,482 It drove things forward. 1371 01:10:58,483 --> 01:11:01,459 It took the UFO phenomenon out of the fringe 1372 01:11:01,460 --> 01:11:03,178 and into the mainstream. 1373 01:11:03,179 --> 01:11:06,030 Thousands of people watched it online. 1374 01:11:06,031 --> 01:11:07,874 We netcast it so that 1375 01:11:07,875 --> 01:11:09,889 members of Congress and their staff 1376 01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:12,696 who were too timid to come down and watch it there, 1377 01:11:12,697 --> 01:11:14,543 or members of the press that were afraid 1378 01:11:14,544 --> 01:11:16,219 that they might be seen watching it, 1379 01:11:16,220 --> 01:11:18,273 could watch it in the comfort of their offices. 1380 01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:22,089 Sometime this year, we may just enter a new world. 1381 01:11:22,090 --> 01:11:23,683 Thank you so much. 1382 01:11:23,684 --> 01:11:25,736 Based on the hearings, 1383 01:11:25,737 --> 01:11:28,504 four of the six former members of Congress 1384 01:11:28,505 --> 01:11:31,523 pledged their support to hold a world conference, 1385 01:11:31,524 --> 01:11:33,872 in conjunction with the United Nations, 1386 01:11:33,873 --> 01:11:36,010 to address the disclosure 1387 01:11:36,011 --> 01:11:38,525 of all knowledge of extraterrestrial contact 1388 01:11:38,526 --> 01:11:40,080 with this planet. 1389 01:11:41,587 --> 01:11:44,983 Then, on August 15, 2013, 1390 01:11:44,984 --> 01:11:48,589 less than four months after the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, 1391 01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:53,662 the United States government made a shocking admission. 1392 01:11:53,663 --> 01:11:56,053 After decades of denying its existence, 1393 01:11:56,054 --> 01:11:58,652 they finally admitted that a secret base 1394 01:11:58,653 --> 01:12:02,217 known as Area 51 did exist. 1395 01:12:02,218 --> 01:12:05,319 Did the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure 1396 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,464 force the U.S. government to act? 1397 01:12:08,465 --> 01:12:10,308 While the government acknowledged 1398 01:12:10,309 --> 01:12:14,710 the existence of Area 51, it still has not been revealed 1399 01:12:14,711 --> 01:12:18,359 just what it is currently being used for. 1400 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,995 And since that disclosure, 1401 01:12:19,996 --> 01:12:22,846 the perimeter around the base has been extended 1402 01:12:22,847 --> 01:12:26,200 and security heightened. 1403 01:12:26,201 --> 01:12:29,721 Area 51 has to be more secretive now, 1404 01:12:29,722 --> 01:12:32,238 because you got so many other concerns. 1405 01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:35,299 We didn't have computers to worry about, Internet, 1406 01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:37,858 all that sort of thing that you've got today. 1407 01:12:37,859 --> 01:12:40,457 So it's a brand-new ball game as far as security. 1408 01:12:40,458 --> 01:12:43,768 While many considered the government's admission 1409 01:12:43,769 --> 01:12:47,333 of the existence of Area 51 to be a bombshell, 1410 01:12:47,334 --> 01:12:51,022 an even bigger disclosure was still to come: 1411 01:12:51,023 --> 01:12:57,019 the declassification of millions of top secret CIA documents. 1412 01:13:01,469 --> 01:13:03,146 Bethesda, Maryland. 1413 01:13:03,147 --> 01:13:06,039 November 2014. 1414 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,967 Stephen Bassett, 1415 01:13:07,968 --> 01:13:11,742 executive director of the Paradigm Research Group, 1416 01:13:11,743 --> 01:13:16,228 launches an initiative directed to influence Hillary Clinton. 1417 01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:19,121 Based on Clinton's work with Laurance Rockefeller 1418 01:13:19,122 --> 01:13:21,175 in the 1990s, 1419 01:13:21,176 --> 01:13:23,691 Bassett believes she could be an ally 1420 01:13:23,692 --> 01:13:28,386 in getting the government to declassify its UFO files. 1421 01:13:28,387 --> 01:13:31,743 That political initiative was begun 1422 01:13:31,744 --> 01:13:34,173 by sending a full copy 1423 01:13:34,174 --> 01:13:37,360 of the 30 hours of testimony to every member of Congress, 1424 01:13:37,361 --> 01:13:41,638 addressing the Rockefeller Initiative, naming names... 1425 01:13:41,639 --> 01:13:45,537 Secretary Clinton, President Clinton, John Podesta, 1426 01:13:45,538 --> 01:13:47,256 George Stephanopoulos, et cetera, et cetera. 1427 01:13:47,257 --> 01:13:50,862 That testimony created a very significant dilemma 1428 01:13:50,863 --> 01:13:53,252 for the Clinton campaign team. 1429 01:13:53,253 --> 01:13:59,205 The political initiative forces the Clinton campaign team, 1430 01:13:59,206 --> 01:14:01,806 which included Barack Obama... He was on the team... 1431 01:14:01,807 --> 01:14:04,280 To speak to the issue. 1432 01:14:04,281 --> 01:14:08,515 Are we ready to go win an election in November? 1433 01:14:10,151 --> 01:14:13,210 Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, 1434 01:14:13,211 --> 01:14:15,810 is well known for his interest in UFO 1435 01:14:15,811 --> 01:14:21,177 and extraterrestrial encounters, and according to him, so is she. 1436 01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:25,245 Secretary Clinton, likewise, 1437 01:14:25,246 --> 01:14:27,383 was also kind of interested in the topic, 1438 01:14:27,384 --> 01:14:30,360 and during the course of the campaign said 1439 01:14:30,361 --> 01:14:32,457 that, if elected, she would have ordered 1440 01:14:32,458 --> 01:14:35,308 a more thorough declassification review. 1441 01:14:35,309 --> 01:14:37,991 She was very open. She did not skirt the issue. 1442 01:14:37,992 --> 01:14:39,669 She talked about it very openly. 1443 01:14:39,670 --> 01:14:43,023 Many believe that had Clinton won, 1444 01:14:43,024 --> 01:14:44,910 there would have been a seismic shift 1445 01:14:44,911 --> 01:14:47,803 from the government's long-held policy of secrecy 1446 01:14:47,804 --> 01:14:53,924 concerning UFO investigations to a new policy of full disclosure. 1447 01:14:53,925 --> 01:14:56,566 The system of regulation 1448 01:14:56,567 --> 01:15:00,674 that creates our secrecy system... what's top secret, 1449 01:15:00,675 --> 01:15:03,779 what's confidential, these lower levels of classification... 1450 01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:07,887 That's regulated and has been since the Truman administration 1451 01:15:07,888 --> 01:15:10,235 by executive order of the president. 1452 01:15:10,236 --> 01:15:15,476 The president sets forward the general rules of classification. 1453 01:15:15,477 --> 01:15:17,742 And some presidents have been more forthcoming, 1454 01:15:17,743 --> 01:15:19,545 wanted less secrecy. 1455 01:15:19,546 --> 01:15:23,652 Some have tightened the reins and wanted more secrecy. 1456 01:15:23,653 --> 01:15:24,785 It makes a difference. 1457 01:15:24,786 --> 01:15:27,553 The CIA and the Pentagon... 1458 01:15:27,554 --> 01:15:31,074 They were worried about Hillary Clinton, Secretary Clinton, 1459 01:15:31,075 --> 01:15:33,758 all the statements she was making, winning the presidency, 1460 01:15:33,759 --> 01:15:35,686 and going to the Pentagon and basically saying, 1461 01:15:35,687 --> 01:15:37,784 "You are going to give me the information I need 1462 01:15:37,785 --> 01:15:39,502 "to disclose the extraterrestrial presence, 1463 01:15:39,503 --> 01:15:42,186 or I'm gonna fire every single one of you." 1464 01:15:42,187 --> 01:15:47,511 As this year of 2016 went forward, we all expected 1465 01:15:47,512 --> 01:15:50,488 that this headline that we've been waiting for 1466 01:15:50,489 --> 01:15:54,177 that is going to break the protocol, 1467 01:15:54,178 --> 01:15:58,414 break the policy of denial, was going to happen. 1468 01:15:58,415 --> 01:16:01,390 John Podesta was trying to get ready 1469 01:16:01,391 --> 01:16:04,409 to open up that we're not alone in the universe. 1470 01:16:04,410 --> 01:16:07,177 All of that crashed 1471 01:16:07,178 --> 01:16:11,621 when a different person became President of the United States. 1472 01:16:11,622 --> 01:16:15,520 November 8, 2016, 1473 01:16:15,521 --> 01:16:19,336 Donald Trump was elected as America's next president. 1474 01:16:19,337 --> 01:16:23,655 There would be no disclosure of the secret UFO files. 1475 01:16:23,656 --> 01:16:28,855 I've had a number of members of Congress, 1476 01:16:28,856 --> 01:16:32,124 members of the U.S. Senate say to me, "Keep going at this." 1477 01:16:32,125 --> 01:16:35,060 I'm really interested in it, but I can't say anything about it." 1478 01:16:35,061 --> 01:16:37,659 But as a longtime advisor 1479 01:16:37,660 --> 01:16:39,672 to President Barack Obama, 1480 01:16:39,673 --> 01:16:43,404 John Podesta still had an ally in the White House, 1481 01:16:43,405 --> 01:16:46,926 one who would remain there for another two months. 1482 01:16:50,784 --> 01:16:54,899 January 17, 2017. 1483 01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:57,879 In Barack Obama's last days as president, 1484 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,734 the CIA posts on its website 1485 01:17:00,735 --> 01:17:04,514 nearly 13 million pages of agency documents, 1486 01:17:04,515 --> 01:17:08,083 many of which pertain to UFOs. 1487 01:17:08,084 --> 01:17:13,079 It was a very, very big deal, and people were excited. 1488 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,740 All of these things were efforts, I believe, 1489 01:17:17,741 --> 01:17:20,301 to educate people and to move us 1490 01:17:20,302 --> 01:17:25,845 in a direction that we can accept, as a society, 1491 01:17:25,846 --> 01:17:28,742 that extraterrestrials are here 1492 01:17:28,743 --> 01:17:32,480 and have been here for thousands of years. 1493 01:17:35,335 --> 01:17:38,777 Investigator Chase Kloetzke and author Nick Pope 1494 01:17:38,778 --> 01:17:40,918 have been searching for proof 1495 01:17:40,919 --> 01:17:43,353 that the U.S. government has been hiding its interactions 1496 01:17:43,354 --> 01:17:45,327 with extraterrestrials. 1497 01:17:45,328 --> 01:17:48,560 Now they hope to find new evidence among 1498 01:17:48,561 --> 01:17:52,340 the millions of recently declassified pages. 1499 01:17:52,341 --> 01:17:54,019 Well, there's such a lot to go through. 1500 01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:56,873 Exactly. It comes back to the old saying, 1501 01:17:56,874 --> 01:18:00,108 the best place to hide a book is in a library. 1502 01:18:00,109 --> 01:18:04,265 And there are all sorts of gems in here, I'm sure, 1503 01:18:04,266 --> 01:18:06,112 but, um, how would we ever know? 1504 01:18:06,113 --> 01:18:08,547 We've got to go through it literally page by page, 1505 01:18:08,548 --> 01:18:10,435 - line by line. - Right. 1506 01:18:10,436 --> 01:18:13,250 So we're taking a look at this report. 1507 01:18:13,449 --> 01:18:15,672 December 1960. 1508 01:18:15,673 --> 01:18:17,647 This has come from Detroit, 1509 01:18:17,648 --> 01:18:22,853 and it's a sighting of unidentified objects in the sky. 1510 01:18:22,854 --> 01:18:26,044 "Like a disc," it says, 1511 01:18:26,045 --> 01:18:28,354 which again, is something I'm sure you've come across 1512 01:18:28,355 --> 01:18:30,158 in-in various reports, as have I. 1513 01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:31,628 Yes, many. 1514 01:18:31,629 --> 01:18:33,981 And yet, it has these redactions on it. 1515 01:18:33,982 --> 01:18:36,122 And again, the question arises: Why? 1516 01:18:36,123 --> 01:18:40,489 If this subject is so unclassified and unimportant, 1517 01:18:40,490 --> 01:18:42,251 why all these redactions? 1518 01:18:42,252 --> 01:18:44,855 - And this next document. - Oh, wow. That's crazy. 1519 01:18:44,856 --> 01:18:47,921 Right? Why even bother? 1520 01:18:47,922 --> 01:18:51,532 Only information is... the date. 1521 01:18:51,533 --> 01:18:53,925 13 million documents. 1522 01:18:53,926 --> 01:18:56,865 If there really was a smoking gun in there, 1523 01:18:56,866 --> 01:18:59,343 it would be almost impossible to find. 1524 01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:06,059 So far, the CIA archive has revealed 1525 01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:08,159 thousands of reports of sightings 1526 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,426 of unexplained aircraft. 1527 01:19:10,427 --> 01:19:13,871 One report said that, of 1,500 official accounts 1528 01:19:13,872 --> 01:19:16,725 of UFOs since 1947, 1529 01:19:16,726 --> 01:19:21,344 an incredible 20% remain unexplained. 1530 01:19:21,345 --> 01:19:25,249 But was the release of the CIA online archive 1531 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:30,833 another step towards disclosure or a way to bury the truth? 1532 01:19:30,834 --> 01:19:34,360 When the Pentagon's classified study into UFOs... 1533 01:19:34,361 --> 01:19:37,426 The Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program... 1534 01:19:37,427 --> 01:19:41,122 Was uncovered later in 2017, 1535 01:19:41,123 --> 01:19:43,303 journalists and researchers rushed 1536 01:19:43,304 --> 01:19:46,747 to file Freedom of Information Act requests. 1537 01:19:46,748 --> 01:19:51,409 Will these files finally explain what the government knows? 1538 01:19:54,746 --> 01:19:57,854 11 months after the CIA's archive 1539 01:19:57,855 --> 01:20:00,541 is released to the public in 2017, 1540 01:20:00,542 --> 01:20:03,227 The New York Times story reveals 1541 01:20:03,228 --> 01:20:05,328 the Department of Defense's 1542 01:20:05,329 --> 01:20:09,275 or Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 1543 01:20:13,138 --> 01:20:14,944 As soon as the story breaks, 1544 01:20:14,945 --> 01:20:17,504 journalists and researchers start filing 1545 01:20:17,505 --> 01:20:22,040 Freedom of Information Act requests, known as FOIA. 1546 01:20:22,041 --> 01:20:28,966 There have now been 1,500 to 2,000 FOIAs on this program... 1547 01:20:28,967 --> 01:20:31,024 $22 million program... 1548 01:20:31,025 --> 01:20:32,998 And the government at this point is saying, 1549 01:20:32,999 --> 01:20:34,384 "Program? What program?" 1550 01:20:34,385 --> 01:20:35,980 They're playing the same old game. 1551 01:20:35,981 --> 01:20:37,490 "We didn't release those films." 1552 01:20:37,491 --> 01:20:39,003 But they're under so much pressure. 1553 01:20:39,004 --> 01:20:41,522 If this keeps up for even 1554 01:20:41,523 --> 01:20:43,580 four, five or six more months, 1555 01:20:43,581 --> 01:20:48,240 I do not imagine how disclosure can not take place. 1556 01:20:48,241 --> 01:20:51,809 Much of what was undertaken and reviewed 1557 01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:54,160 still remains in the dark, 1558 01:20:54,161 --> 01:20:57,477 in classified form at the Department of Defense. 1559 01:20:57,478 --> 01:21:00,166 I would hope that they would declassify it 1560 01:21:00,167 --> 01:21:02,012 and release as much as possible. 1561 01:21:02,013 --> 01:21:04,280 - Good afternoon. - Good afternoon. 1562 01:21:04,281 --> 01:21:07,218 When this story broke in The New York Times... 1563 01:21:07,219 --> 01:21:09,150 - Jordan. - ...guy by the name of 1564 01:21:09,151 --> 01:21:12,635 Jordan Fabian from The Hill... he asks Sarah Sanders 1565 01:21:12,636 --> 01:21:14,903 the $64,000 question. 1566 01:21:14,904 --> 01:21:17,884 Does the president believe in the existence of UFOs, 1567 01:21:17,885 --> 01:21:19,816 and would he be interested 1568 01:21:19,817 --> 01:21:21,328 in restoring funding for that program? 1569 01:21:21,329 --> 01:21:23,384 Somehow that question hasn't come up 1570 01:21:23,385 --> 01:21:26,533 in our back and forth over the last couple days, but I will, 1571 01:21:26,534 --> 01:21:30,774 uh, check into that and be happy to circle back. Jennifer? 1572 01:21:30,775 --> 01:21:33,756 As far as I know, she has never come back around, 1573 01:21:33,757 --> 01:21:35,437 because you can't. 1574 01:21:35,438 --> 01:21:37,535 The president has to stay out of it. 1575 01:21:37,536 --> 01:21:40,684 They want the community to force the issue. 1576 01:21:40,685 --> 01:21:42,532 They want us to force the issue. 1577 01:21:42,533 --> 01:21:46,352 And that is why they moved it to Bob Bigelow, 1578 01:21:46,353 --> 01:21:49,124 who's a contractor in Las Vegas. 1579 01:21:49,125 --> 01:21:52,231 It's private industry that will do the disclosure. 1580 01:21:52,232 --> 01:21:54,624 History is about to happen at a level 1581 01:21:54,625 --> 01:21:58,698 that's almost incalculable, extraordinary, unprecedented. 1582 01:21:58,699 --> 01:22:02,477 It makes something like the Roman Empire look trivial. 1583 01:22:02,478 --> 01:22:04,702 So, just think about that. 1584 01:22:04,703 --> 01:22:06,676 The announcement of the extraterrestrial presence, 1585 01:22:06,677 --> 01:22:08,481 worldwide engagement, 1586 01:22:08,482 --> 01:22:11,588 open contacts with multiple civilizations. 1587 01:22:11,589 --> 01:22:15,913 The revelations about AATIP may be clues 1588 01:22:15,914 --> 01:22:18,097 that there's an agenda here. 1589 01:22:18,098 --> 01:22:21,708 This may be government trying 1590 01:22:21,709 --> 01:22:25,149 to slowly drip-feed this information out to the public 1591 01:22:25,150 --> 01:22:29,055 in such a way that there won't be out-and-out panic. 1592 01:22:29,056 --> 01:22:31,282 It may be a way 1593 01:22:31,283 --> 01:22:36,571 of slowly but surely acclimatizing people 1594 01:22:36,572 --> 01:22:39,426 to the reality of this phenomenon. 1595 01:22:39,427 --> 01:22:43,206 The fact that The New York Times published 1596 01:22:43,207 --> 01:22:46,565 a Pentagon story is extraordinary. 1597 01:22:46,566 --> 01:22:50,259 And nobody really cared, so, 1598 01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:55,298 to me, that means that while we are all talking about 1599 01:22:55,299 --> 01:22:58,071 that we may be connected to extraterrestrials, 1600 01:22:58,072 --> 01:23:01,094 that this knowledge is within us. 1601 01:23:01,095 --> 01:23:05,544 It's hardwired, so that, hey, if they're coming, 1602 01:23:05,545 --> 01:23:08,902 it won't be panic because we come from them. 1603 01:23:08,903 --> 01:23:13,019 I do think that the world is ready for this knowledge, 1604 01:23:13,020 --> 01:23:17,132 and I think that it would be the most revolutionary story 1605 01:23:17,133 --> 01:23:19,485 in the history of mankind. 1606 01:23:22,466 --> 01:23:24,985 Has the time finally come 1607 01:23:24,986 --> 01:23:27,505 when not only the United States government 1608 01:23:27,506 --> 01:23:32,334 but nations around the world will reveal what UFO researchers 1609 01:23:32,335 --> 01:23:36,280 and ancient astronaut theorists have long suspected: 1610 01:23:36,281 --> 01:23:39,387 that extraterrestrial visitation of our planet 1611 01:23:39,388 --> 01:23:42,452 is not only real, but has been happening 1612 01:23:42,453 --> 01:23:44,804 for thousands of years? 1613 01:23:44,805 --> 01:23:49,715 There are many who believe the answer is a profound yes, 1614 01:23:49,716 --> 01:23:52,991 and that the truth will lead to a greater understanding 1615 01:23:52,992 --> 01:23:58,197 not only of mankind's past, but of its future, 1616 01:23:58,198 --> 01:24:01,305 a future that will see humans 1617 01:24:01,306 --> 01:24:04,455 as the torchbearers of a new generation, 1618 01:24:04,456 --> 01:24:09,451 and as the extraterrestrial visitors of planets and galaxies 1619 01:24:09,452 --> 01:24:11,970 far beyond our own. 1619 01:24:12,305 --> 01:24:18,176 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 131159

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