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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:44,864 --> 00:01:47,833 I know maybe a dozen reporters, guys you know, too, 2 00:01:47,867 --> 00:01:49,468 who tell me they've been pitching you this story 3 00:01:49,502 --> 00:01:51,904 for almost a year with no luck. 4 00:01:51,938 --> 00:01:54,240 Yeah, I'm not crazy about being interviewed in print. 5 00:01:54,274 --> 00:01:58,010 Print journalists play it fast and loose with exclamation points. 6 00:01:58,078 --> 00:02:01,147 I love the news becomes I love the news! 7 00:02:01,182 --> 00:02:02,949 Suddenly I'm deranged. 8 00:02:02,984 --> 00:02:04,951 - So why now? - Huh? 9 00:02:04,986 --> 00:02:06,353 Why are you agreeing to this piece now? 10 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:09,023 - You don't happen to have a cigarette? - No. 11 00:02:09,057 --> 00:02:10,891 - Why now? - Ah, right here. 12 00:02:10,926 --> 00:02:13,093 Why do you want this now? 13 00:02:13,128 --> 00:02:16,397 I want some sort of document about what we've been trying to do here. 14 00:02:16,431 --> 00:02:18,799 Like the king at the end of Camelot 15 00:02:18,833 --> 00:02:21,568 telling the boy to run behind the lines from village to village 16 00:02:21,603 --> 00:02:23,270 telling people about, you know... 17 00:02:23,305 --> 00:02:24,572 - Camelot. - Yeah. 18 00:02:24,606 --> 00:02:26,574 I'm asking why you reached out to me. 19 00:02:26,608 --> 00:02:29,876 Because, your recent complications notwithstanding, 20 00:02:29,911 --> 00:02:31,945 you cover the media better than anyone out there. 21 00:02:31,979 --> 00:02:35,415 You haven't lost your touch for complimenting and insulting someone at the same time. 22 00:02:35,449 --> 00:02:36,816 Thank you. I appreciate it. 23 00:02:36,851 --> 00:02:38,418 But it wasn't meant as an insult, Brian. 24 00:02:38,452 --> 00:02:40,353 Your life's been in news magazines, 25 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:42,255 - and news magazines aren't... - I know. 26 00:02:42,289 --> 00:02:44,123 As many pages long as they used to be. 27 00:02:44,158 --> 00:02:45,525 What kind of access are we talking about? 28 00:02:45,559 --> 00:02:47,961 Here's what I'll offer. You spend a few days here, 29 00:02:47,996 --> 00:02:50,297 talk to whoever you want, but it's all off the record. 30 00:02:50,331 --> 00:02:52,232 - Not even background. - What good does that do me? 31 00:02:52,267 --> 00:02:54,568 If I like how it feels, then we go ahead. 32 00:02:54,602 --> 00:02:57,271 But I still get to tell you what can retroactively 33 00:02:57,305 --> 00:02:58,672 go on the record from the tryout period. 34 00:02:58,706 --> 00:03:01,374 - You're asking me to audition? - Yeah. 35 00:03:01,409 --> 00:03:02,809 Why would I do that? 36 00:03:02,844 --> 00:03:04,378 I can think of some reasons. 37 00:03:04,412 --> 00:03:07,181 Four years ago, you were on the masthead at Newsweek, 38 00:03:07,215 --> 00:03:09,149 turning out ten cover stories a year 39 00:03:09,184 --> 00:03:11,084 and spending Sunday mornings on TV. 40 00:03:11,119 --> 00:03:12,653 Today you have a blog. 41 00:03:12,687 --> 00:03:14,488 Your fucking disdain for the Internet-- 44 00:03:19,526 --> 00:03:23,162 and rolled the money into a start-up, thinking you'd be the next Huffington Post. 45 00:03:23,196 --> 00:03:24,329 How'd it work out? 46 00:03:24,364 --> 00:03:25,798 We filed for bankruptcy. 47 00:03:25,832 --> 00:03:27,833 The Sunday Times Magazine, Vanity Fair, 48 00:03:27,867 --> 00:03:30,202 GQ, The New Republic, The Atlantic-- 49 00:03:30,236 --> 00:03:33,138 Everybody's offered the cover and I get to pick the writer. 50 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:35,574 I'm going with New York Magazine and you. 51 00:03:35,608 --> 00:03:38,544 So, you okay with the audition? 52 00:03:38,579 --> 00:03:40,480 Are you prepared to talk about your Republicanism? 53 00:03:40,514 --> 00:03:42,182 You say that like I've got polio. 54 00:03:42,216 --> 00:03:43,717 Are you prepared to talk about having polio? 55 00:03:43,751 --> 00:03:47,554 I grew up in a town outside of town outside Lincoln, Nebraska. 56 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:49,089 My hometown was a road. 57 00:03:49,123 --> 00:03:51,658 I was a college freshman before I met a Democrat. 58 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:54,562 What about our history? 59 00:03:54,596 --> 00:03:57,932 Brian, your problem with me back in the day 60 00:03:57,966 --> 00:04:00,334 was that I was a moderate, sane Republican 61 00:04:00,369 --> 00:04:03,871 who refused to take a position on anything for fear I would lose viewers. 62 00:04:03,906 --> 00:04:06,207 Just as moderate, sane Republicans on the Hill 63 00:04:06,241 --> 00:04:09,009 refuse to take a position for fear they'll lose primary voters. 64 00:04:09,044 --> 00:04:12,213 I had a nightly rundown that went out of its way to avoid reporting the news. 65 00:04:12,247 --> 00:04:14,515 And then Mackenzie McHale came along 66 00:04:14,549 --> 00:04:16,850 and I'm attacking my own party 67 00:04:16,884 --> 00:04:18,685 for not standing up to its attackers. 68 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,521 Isn't that what you wanted me to do back when you were calling me a coward? 69 00:04:21,555 --> 00:04:23,656 Yeah, but that's not the history I'm talking about 70 00:04:23,691 --> 00:04:26,659 and you already knew that, so please stop fucking around with me. 71 00:04:29,263 --> 00:04:31,732 One parenthetical sentence in the second graph. 72 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:34,368 "Full disclosure. I've been a friend of Mackenzie McHale's 73 00:04:34,402 --> 00:04:36,269 - since the late '90s." - And you? 74 00:04:36,304 --> 00:04:38,805 An email went to 178,000 people 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,740 and was reported on our own morning show. 76 00:04:40,774 --> 00:04:43,509 That's all you know and that's all you'll report. 77 00:04:44,811 --> 00:04:46,745 That's fine with me. But that's the last time 78 00:04:46,780 --> 00:04:48,380 you'll tell me what I will or won't report. 79 00:04:48,414 --> 00:04:51,650 - I'm not your stenographer. - Do we have a deal? 80 00:04:51,684 --> 00:04:54,786 Yeah, now why do you need someone to run from village to village? 81 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:56,321 Is something about to happen to Camelot? 82 00:04:56,355 --> 00:04:57,622 Maybe. 83 00:04:57,656 --> 00:05:00,192 First, you have to learn what our whole philosophy is. 84 00:05:00,226 --> 00:05:04,029 Hang out, we'll talk later. I have to go to a meeting with Reese Lansing. 85 00:05:04,063 --> 00:05:06,131 What's it about? 86 00:05:06,166 --> 00:05:08,301 Suspending our whole philosophy. 87 00:05:08,335 --> 00:05:10,503 Good to see you again, Brian. 88 00:05:15,575 --> 00:05:17,342 He should be here any minute. 89 00:05:21,114 --> 00:05:22,514 Sorry I'm late. 90 00:05:22,549 --> 00:05:24,684 All right, I'm not gonna tell you what to put on the air. 91 00:05:24,718 --> 00:05:27,086 You're not allowed to tell us what to put on the air. 92 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,455 So I'm just gonna tell you the facts. 93 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:33,291 You got mugged last week. You got bludgeoned. 94 00:05:33,326 --> 00:05:36,295 - It's Casey Anthony. - Hang on, wait. She may just be right. 95 00:05:36,329 --> 00:05:38,497 - We knew we'd take a small hit. - There's nothing small. 96 00:05:38,531 --> 00:05:41,100 Let me just give you the facts and then invite you to draw your own conclusion. 97 00:05:41,134 --> 00:05:45,038 Nancy Grace averages 283,000 viewers on HLN. 98 00:05:45,072 --> 00:05:47,006 Her time period competitor News Night 99 00:05:47,041 --> 00:05:49,409 averages 960,000. 100 00:05:49,443 --> 00:05:52,946 One week ago, HLN begins coverage of the Casey Anthony trial 101 00:05:52,981 --> 00:05:56,917 and Nancy's audience increases to 1.5 million viewers 102 00:05:56,951 --> 00:05:59,352 while News Night's audience drops to 460,000, 103 00:05:59,387 --> 00:06:02,489 sending you from second to fifth place in the course of five days. 104 00:06:02,523 --> 00:06:05,359 A feat I previously thought was only accomplishable 105 00:06:05,393 --> 00:06:08,128 by the New York Mets. 106 00:06:08,162 --> 00:06:11,231 Whose idea was it to not cover the Casey Anthony trial? 107 00:06:11,265 --> 00:06:12,966 It was mine. 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,135 I think the three of you should have a vaudeville act. 109 00:06:15,169 --> 00:06:18,071 I'm not kidding. I'm gonna send you on a fucking tour. 110 00:06:18,106 --> 00:06:20,240 It was hers. 111 00:06:20,275 --> 00:06:23,543 Mackenzie, I've never seen a more vivid picture of why viewers left, 112 00:06:23,578 --> 00:06:25,078 where they went to, and why. 113 00:06:25,112 --> 00:06:26,279 You said why twice. 114 00:06:26,314 --> 00:06:28,248 You chose not to work for PBS. 115 00:06:28,282 --> 00:06:31,384 You chose not to work for NPR. You have a ratings obligation. 116 00:06:31,419 --> 00:06:33,253 No, you have a ratings obligation. 117 00:06:33,287 --> 00:06:35,021 You're in business with the advertisers. 118 00:06:35,056 --> 00:06:36,823 I'm in business with the viewers. 119 00:06:36,857 --> 00:06:38,458 You just lost their business. 120 00:06:44,231 --> 00:06:45,765 That's all. 121 00:06:45,799 --> 00:06:48,500 Do what you want with the information. 122 00:06:52,138 --> 00:06:54,873 I'll not be taken down by this psychotic cocktail waitress. 123 00:06:54,907 --> 00:06:58,009 That's right, we just keep playing our game, wait it out and just... 124 00:06:58,043 --> 00:06:59,744 How long can the trial go on? 125 00:06:59,778 --> 00:07:01,879 I've seen the witness list. It'll run around six weeks 126 00:07:01,914 --> 00:07:03,948 plus summations plus deliberation. 127 00:07:03,982 --> 00:07:05,917 - We'll never make it. - That's right, so-- 128 00:07:05,951 --> 00:07:08,119 Wait, when you said we wouldn't be taken down 129 00:07:08,153 --> 00:07:09,787 by this psychotic cocktail waitress, 130 00:07:09,821 --> 00:07:12,623 did you mean we weren't gonna cave or that we were? 131 00:07:12,657 --> 00:07:15,593 - You're gonna cover Casey Anthony. - Bullshit we are. 132 00:07:15,628 --> 00:07:17,462 We have the three-day weekend to gear up for it. 133 00:07:17,496 --> 00:07:21,066 - Charlie. - Starting Tuesday, you'll lead with her in the A block. 134 00:07:21,101 --> 00:07:24,237 Give it 15 minutes and a five-minute reset on the half hour. 135 00:07:24,271 --> 00:07:26,105 Seriously, I can't tell if you're joking or-- 136 00:07:26,140 --> 00:07:27,373 - Did you just hear those numbers? - Yes. 137 00:07:27,408 --> 00:07:30,042 Half our audience changed the channel in one week. 138 00:07:30,077 --> 00:07:31,911 - I understand. - Do you? 139 00:07:31,945 --> 00:07:34,948 - Do I understand math? - Do you understand that it's unprecedented? 140 00:07:34,982 --> 00:07:36,816 I'm not gonna argue with you when Will can do it for me. 141 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:39,352 He's never gonna go for this. Tell him. 142 00:07:39,386 --> 00:07:42,855 Have marketing promo the living shit out of Casey Anthony. 143 00:07:42,871 --> 00:07:44,069 Oh, my God. 144 00:07:44,093 --> 00:07:45,625 Rename the show Casey Anthony Night with Casey Anthony. 145 00:07:45,659 --> 00:07:47,494 - Will, hang on. - Right here on the Casey Anthony Network. 146 00:07:47,528 --> 00:07:49,396 - Mac. - 'Cause any second I'm going to wake up 147 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:52,666 and be back in a room with Don Quixote and the mission to civilize. 148 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,935 - Listen to me. - No. How many drinks were thrown in your face 149 00:07:54,969 --> 00:07:56,670 because you didn't think people should be watching 150 00:07:56,704 --> 00:07:58,939 The Real Morons of South Beach or whatever the hell it's called? 151 00:07:58,973 --> 00:08:01,341 - It's not the same thing. - It's exactly the same thing. 152 00:08:01,376 --> 00:08:03,777 It's just worse. A child is dead. 153 00:08:03,811 --> 00:08:06,680 A very troubled young mother either did or didn't murder her. 154 00:08:06,714 --> 00:08:08,848 Her parents are waiting to find out if their daughter's going to get the needle. 155 00:08:08,883 --> 00:08:12,018 So thank God for TiVo, otherwise we wouldn't be able to sit down-- 156 00:08:12,052 --> 00:08:15,221 - It's news. - Yeah, say that three times and click your heels. 157 00:08:15,256 --> 00:08:16,790 It's entertainment. 158 00:08:16,824 --> 00:08:19,459 And it's just-- Just this side of a snuff film. 159 00:08:19,493 --> 00:08:21,361 - Sit down, Mac. - No, I don't want to sit. 160 00:08:21,395 --> 00:08:23,797 - Do it anyway, please. - 15 at the top, that's a quarter of the show. 161 00:08:23,831 --> 00:08:25,665 - Mac. - And five at the bottom for a reset? 162 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:27,367 Please sit! 163 00:08:29,371 --> 00:08:31,538 - Think I like it? - I know you don't. 164 00:08:31,573 --> 00:08:34,241 It makes me sick. There isn't enough bourbon in Kentucky. 165 00:08:34,276 --> 00:08:36,477 Okay? We're in the same place on this. 166 00:08:36,511 --> 00:08:40,081 So let's be in the same place on this. 167 00:08:40,116 --> 00:08:41,616 We've had ratings dips before. 168 00:08:41,651 --> 00:08:44,019 First of all, not like this. Nothing like this. 169 00:08:44,053 --> 00:08:47,223 Second, I want the debate. The three of us have talked about a new debate format 170 00:08:47,257 --> 00:08:50,360 for months and we're not going to be able to do it if they don't give us a debate. 171 00:08:50,394 --> 00:08:52,162 - I just really-- - They're not gonna give us a debate 172 00:08:52,196 --> 00:08:54,464 if we're in fifth place. I want the debate. 173 00:08:54,499 --> 00:08:56,332 I want to fundamentally change the way 174 00:08:56,367 --> 00:08:58,201 we interview presidential candidates for their job. 175 00:08:58,235 --> 00:09:00,169 If that means we have to be Jerry Springer 176 00:09:00,204 --> 00:09:02,004 for a few weeks, I'm willing to pay that price. 177 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:04,907 When the going gets tough, the two of you really man up. 178 00:09:04,942 --> 00:09:07,477 Then go with your principles, Mac, but know 179 00:09:07,511 --> 00:09:09,779 a ratings hit like this is all Leona needs 180 00:09:09,813 --> 00:09:13,416 to fire Will without having to explain why. 181 00:09:23,562 --> 00:09:26,364 - All right. - You'll do it as classy as you can. 182 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,334 I'll have Will wear a top hat and monocle 183 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:32,337 while he's showing pictures of the wet T-shirt contest. 184 00:09:36,075 --> 00:09:38,343 I'm sorry about the outburst in there. 185 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:41,146 Yeah, I'm not sure it was all about Casey Anthony. 186 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:45,317 - How did it go? - He's doing it. 187 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:47,286 Then he has to disclose that we were-- 188 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,521 I told him one parenthetical in the second graph. 189 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:50,789 That's it. 190 00:09:50,823 --> 00:09:52,758 He needs to be seen as a heavyweight again, Mac. 191 00:09:52,792 --> 00:09:54,726 He's not gonna write a tell-all. You're fine. 192 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,397 Murrow did Person to Person. 193 00:09:59,431 --> 00:10:01,666 Celebrity interviews. It was a deal with Paley. 194 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,401 One for them, one for him. 195 00:10:03,435 --> 00:10:05,169 He interviewed Liberace, Mac, 196 00:10:05,203 --> 00:10:07,571 just so he could keep going after McCarthy. 197 00:10:07,606 --> 00:10:09,940 Those were puff pieces. This is poison. 198 00:10:09,975 --> 00:10:13,543 If we're gonna do this, let's not pretend we're not doing this. 199 00:10:16,481 --> 00:10:18,815 - Jim Harper. - Hey. 200 00:10:18,849 --> 00:10:20,417 - Brian Brenner. - I know. 201 00:10:20,451 --> 00:10:22,953 I wasn't sure if you remembered. It's been a few years. 202 00:10:22,987 --> 00:10:25,022 Sure. It's good to see you. 203 00:10:25,056 --> 00:10:26,924 Are you looking at BigGoverment.com? 204 00:10:26,958 --> 00:10:28,559 - Yeah. - Don't make me write 205 00:10:28,593 --> 00:10:31,896 that you're using Andrew Breitbart to research this show. 206 00:10:31,930 --> 00:10:34,899 No, we're gonna be doing a mock debate at the end of next week. 207 00:10:34,933 --> 00:10:39,204 - A mock debate? - The RNC is looking at Will to possibly host a debate, 208 00:10:39,238 --> 00:10:42,007 and Will and Mac have an idea for a new debate format. 209 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:44,143 We want to show them, so we're each playing a candidate 210 00:10:44,177 --> 00:10:47,480 and we're gonna do a mock debate on Michele Bachmann, so... 211 00:10:47,514 --> 00:10:48,815 - Andrew Breitbart. - Yeah. 212 00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:51,117 Tell me about this new debate format you guys want. 213 00:10:51,152 --> 00:10:55,923 You know, I'm not really sure what I'm allowed to talk to you about yet. 214 00:10:55,957 --> 00:10:58,091 Do you mind if we wait until I get some instructions? 215 00:10:58,126 --> 00:10:59,426 - Sure. - Thanks. 216 00:11:04,766 --> 00:11:06,300 Hey. 217 00:11:06,334 --> 00:11:07,568 - Hey. - I heard you were here. 218 00:11:07,602 --> 00:11:08,936 You're not getting out of town for the weekend? 219 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:10,604 - Nope. How about you? - Yeah. 220 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:13,407 I'm going to a think tank conference outside Baltimore. 221 00:11:13,441 --> 00:11:15,776 The Institute For Capital Studies and Economic Growth. 222 00:11:15,810 --> 00:11:18,579 - It's gonna be a raver. - I think it's called a rager. 223 00:11:18,613 --> 00:11:20,147 - Are you sure? - No. 224 00:11:20,181 --> 00:11:22,883 It's either a rave or a rager or a raver. 225 00:11:22,917 --> 00:11:26,187 Don't think the Institute For Capital Studies and Economic Growth's gonna be any of them. 226 00:11:26,221 --> 00:11:27,755 So I stopped in to give you a heads up. 227 00:11:27,790 --> 00:11:29,190 I might need a couple extra minutes Tuesday night. 228 00:11:29,225 --> 00:11:30,959 I don't think I can give it to you. 229 00:11:30,993 --> 00:11:33,127 The House is going to vote up or down on increasing the debt ceiling. 230 00:11:33,162 --> 00:11:35,463 - It's a cosmetic vote, but-- - If it's a cosmetic vote, why-- 231 00:11:35,498 --> 00:11:37,699 It's news because first of all, it'll be the first time 232 00:11:37,733 --> 00:11:39,767 in history the House lets the US default on its debt. 233 00:11:39,802 --> 00:11:41,770 But moreover, it'll be the first shot 234 00:11:41,804 --> 00:11:43,371 in the beginning of a very reckless, 235 00:11:43,406 --> 00:11:47,175 extremely dangerous partisan fight that could end in catastrophe. 236 00:11:47,209 --> 00:11:49,010 - Let me explain. - I can't give you the time. 237 00:11:49,044 --> 00:11:51,712 - If Congress doesn't raise-- - I can't give you the extra time. 238 00:11:51,747 --> 00:11:55,183 Starting Tuesday, I have to cover Casey Anthony. 239 00:11:57,152 --> 00:12:00,254 - I really liked that we weren't doing that. - I really liked it, too. 240 00:12:00,288 --> 00:12:02,423 By putting the debt ceiling vote in the A block, we'd be sending-- 241 00:12:02,457 --> 00:12:05,860 I can't, Sloan. We lost half our audience last week. 242 00:12:05,895 --> 00:12:08,362 That's not hyperbole. That's an actual number. 243 00:12:08,397 --> 00:12:11,166 - Half our audience went to HLN at 8:00. - Half? 244 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,701 If we don't bring them home this week, we'll have lost most of them for good 245 00:12:13,736 --> 00:12:16,003 and we could lose the debate. 246 00:12:16,038 --> 00:12:18,972 Kenzie, I'm not just trying to get more airtime. 247 00:12:19,007 --> 00:12:20,373 This is an incredibly important-- 248 00:12:20,408 --> 00:12:22,909 I had 42 and a half minutes to work with. 249 00:12:22,944 --> 00:12:24,544 I now have 22 and a half. 250 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:26,112 Do you know how you're gonna budget the 22 and a half? 251 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:27,447 Do you know what Tuesday's news is? 252 00:12:27,481 --> 00:12:29,849 We want the debate. That's the prize. 253 00:12:29,883 --> 00:12:33,252 Those guys are studying on a Friday night of a three-day weekend. 254 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:35,554 - Okay, next question. - Congresswoman Bachmann, 255 00:12:35,589 --> 00:12:38,957 you're a proponent of reforming Social Security and Medicare. 256 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:41,026 Can you give us some details of the reforms you have in mind? 257 00:12:41,060 --> 00:12:44,129 I'd start by reducing benefits for all but current recipients 258 00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:46,231 as part of an effort to reduce the federal deficit. 259 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:49,067 I'd like to add that President Obama has already transferred 260 00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:52,270 over $500 billion out of Medicare and into Obamacare, 261 00:12:52,304 --> 00:12:54,172 which I will repeal on my first day in office. 262 00:12:54,206 --> 00:12:57,074 Ms. Bachmann, are you aware that presidents can't repeal laws? 263 00:12:57,109 --> 00:13:00,578 I, Jim, am aware of that, but... 264 00:13:00,612 --> 00:13:01,913 Where are you getting the quote? 265 00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:04,682 BigGovernment.com. It's right here. 266 00:13:06,518 --> 00:13:08,319 - Hmm. - What? 267 00:13:08,353 --> 00:13:12,023 Anthony Weiner's Twitter account got hacked. 268 00:13:12,057 --> 00:13:14,358 - Can I suggest a way to turn lemons into lemonade? - Sure. 269 00:13:14,392 --> 00:13:17,060 First you squeeze the juice from the lemons. Then add sugar and water. 270 00:13:17,094 --> 00:13:19,729 And you're not really into this joke, so I'm just going to say what I really wanted to say. 271 00:13:19,764 --> 00:13:22,832 The Casey Anthony story actually gives us a chance to show 272 00:13:22,866 --> 00:13:24,934 how important the debt ceiling story is if we lead 273 00:13:24,968 --> 00:13:26,468 with the debt ceiling instead of Casey Anthony. 274 00:13:26,503 --> 00:13:28,370 When do you have to go to your raver? 275 00:13:28,405 --> 00:13:30,038 - I've got plenty of time. - Tea, can I have another? 276 00:13:30,073 --> 00:13:32,441 - Yeah. - Hey, how about Brian Brenner? 277 00:13:32,475 --> 00:13:34,376 I've been reading him for years and didn't know what he looked like. 278 00:13:34,411 --> 00:13:35,912 - He's cute. - Yeah. 279 00:13:35,946 --> 00:13:37,313 - Is he single? - He is. 280 00:13:37,347 --> 00:13:38,747 - Are you interested? - Nope. 281 00:13:38,782 --> 00:13:41,784 That's contempt prior to investigation. 282 00:13:41,818 --> 00:13:44,453 No, it's contempt after thorough investigation. 283 00:13:44,488 --> 00:13:46,088 - You dated him? - I did. 284 00:13:46,123 --> 00:13:49,492 - When? - About six years ago. 285 00:13:49,526 --> 00:13:50,659 That's-- Wait. 286 00:13:50,694 --> 00:13:52,628 - That's-- - Yeah. 287 00:13:54,298 --> 00:13:56,866 Six years ago, you were with the guy you were with before Will. 288 00:13:56,901 --> 00:13:59,369 Yeah. 289 00:14:01,406 --> 00:14:03,140 - But that would-- - Oh, my God, Sloan. 290 00:14:03,174 --> 00:14:04,875 It's like the land where time stands still. 291 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:07,512 Brian Brenner is the guy I cheated on Will with. 292 00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:12,851 I'd been with Will for a year and Brian started calling me again. 293 00:14:12,886 --> 00:14:15,153 - Wow. - Yeah. 294 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,289 - Why would he do the piece? - Brian? 295 00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:18,323 - Yeah. - He needs a cover story. 296 00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:19,924 And why would Will have Brian do the piece? 297 00:14:19,959 --> 00:14:22,393 That's a perfectly fair question to which I have no answer. 298 00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:25,163 This is really messed up. 299 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:29,200 Look, I'll do my best to find you the time you need for the story. 300 00:14:29,234 --> 00:14:32,003 We just need to hope there's no new piece of nonsense 301 00:14:32,037 --> 00:14:36,273 I have to jam into my 22 minutes of Short Attention Span Theater. 302 00:14:36,307 --> 00:14:38,175 Anthony Weiner accidently tweeted 303 00:14:38,209 --> 00:14:40,744 a picture of his groin to 40,000 followers. 304 00:14:44,883 --> 00:14:47,684 And I don't consider it that big a federal offense, 305 00:14:47,718 --> 00:14:50,287 but people want to pay attention to it and I guess I get it. 306 00:14:50,321 --> 00:14:52,122 When you're named Weiner, it kind of goes with the territory. 307 00:14:52,157 --> 00:14:54,091 Have you ever taken a picture like this of yourself? 308 00:14:54,125 --> 00:14:56,559 I can tell you this, that there are-- 309 00:14:56,594 --> 00:14:58,228 I have photographs. 310 00:14:58,263 --> 00:15:00,731 I don't know what photographs are out there in the world of me. 311 00:15:00,765 --> 00:15:03,534 I don't know what things have been manipulated and doctored. 312 00:15:03,568 --> 00:15:06,637 And we're gonna try to find out what happened. 313 00:15:06,671 --> 00:15:09,540 But the most important reason I want to find out what happened is to make sure... 314 00:15:09,574 --> 00:15:13,844 Weiner, McAvoy. Call me. You're getting terrible advice. 315 00:15:15,813 --> 00:15:18,248 Well, the choices are to do something or to do nothing. 316 00:15:18,282 --> 00:15:21,717 If we do nothing, then the audience turns to the nearest guy doing something. 317 00:15:21,752 --> 00:15:23,953 What exactly would our report be? 318 00:15:23,988 --> 00:15:26,055 That he's not answering questions very well? 319 00:15:26,089 --> 00:15:28,090 - I don't know. Give me three minutes. - To report what? 320 00:15:28,124 --> 00:15:31,059 I don't know. But if I do nothing, it's gonna look like I'm protecting a liberal. 321 00:15:31,094 --> 00:15:33,862 Since when did we start caring about what it looks like instead of what it is? 322 00:15:33,897 --> 00:15:36,498 Reports on the Tea Party won't have credibility if we're not balanced. 323 00:15:36,532 --> 00:15:39,901 Will, you're the one who said that balance 324 00:15:39,935 --> 00:15:42,270 for its own sake doesn't have any place in reporting. 325 00:15:42,304 --> 00:15:46,040 One from column A and one from column B is bullshit. 326 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:50,011 And boorish behavior isn't the same as taking the US Treasury hostage. 327 00:15:50,045 --> 00:15:53,247 And when the RNC boys come here on Friday, they won't see it the same way. 328 00:15:53,281 --> 00:15:56,050 And you'll explain to them we don't care that he's sexting. 329 00:15:56,084 --> 00:15:59,053 - We care how he votes. - And they'll understand, give us the debate, 330 00:15:59,087 --> 00:16:02,423 let us use the format we want, and we'll all go out for chocolate milk shakes. 331 00:16:02,457 --> 00:16:05,859 Three minutes in the B block, please, after Casey Anthony. 332 00:16:05,893 --> 00:16:07,727 Okay. 333 00:16:07,762 --> 00:16:09,763 I know it seems like a story that only affects 334 00:16:09,797 --> 00:16:13,733 300,000 people in Queens, but since there's sex involved, 335 00:16:13,767 --> 00:16:16,236 we can't deny its national importance. 336 00:16:16,270 --> 00:16:20,107 Especially since we don't know all or even any of the facts. 337 00:16:21,977 --> 00:16:25,447 Three minutes. I assume you want the pictures. 338 00:16:26,349 --> 00:16:28,583 Good meeting. 339 00:16:33,857 --> 00:16:36,425 I'm pretty familiar with that tone of voice. 340 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:39,229 - I guess you are, too? - I am. 341 00:16:43,134 --> 00:16:45,768 No one's been hitting the Tea Party as hard as you've been. 342 00:16:45,803 --> 00:16:47,971 - Certainly no Republican. - That's not true. 343 00:16:48,005 --> 00:16:50,673 David Frum, Mark McKinnon, Alan Simpson, 344 00:16:50,707 --> 00:16:52,008 Steve Schmidt, Andrew Sullivan. 345 00:16:52,042 --> 00:16:54,110 Okay, but none of them work for Leona Lansing. 346 00:16:54,144 --> 00:16:56,346 I don't know. I think everybody works for Leona Lansing. 347 00:16:56,381 --> 00:17:00,150 She can't be happy that you're beating up people AWM needs on the Hill. 348 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:02,686 I'm really not an expert on what does or doesn't make Leona happy. 349 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,821 Has she ever asked you to tone it down? 350 00:17:04,856 --> 00:17:07,157 I'm not doing your reporting for you, Brian. 351 00:17:07,191 --> 00:17:09,693 I'm doing my reporting myself. I'm asking you a question. 352 00:17:09,727 --> 00:17:13,297 I'm not commenting on or off the record about either Leona or Reese Lansing. 353 00:17:13,331 --> 00:17:16,534 - Does she want you fired? - If she wanted me fired, I'd be fired. 354 00:17:16,568 --> 00:17:18,569 All she has to do is buy my contract, 355 00:17:18,603 --> 00:17:20,704 which she can do with the money under her sofa cushion. 356 00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:22,740 But then she'd have to explain why she was firing 357 00:17:22,774 --> 00:17:25,043 the second most watched anchor on cable 358 00:17:25,077 --> 00:17:26,978 and she can't do that. 359 00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:29,781 Is it a coincidence that the tabloid stories about you 360 00:17:29,816 --> 00:17:31,149 started right after the election? 361 00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,185 I don't know. 362 00:17:33,219 --> 00:17:36,287 Do you think she's using her own tabloid magazine 363 00:17:36,322 --> 00:17:37,822 to manufacture a reason to fire you? 364 00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:39,957 That would be a smart way to do it. 365 00:17:39,992 --> 00:17:42,126 And, of course, if you lost half your audience 366 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,095 because your show was too highbrow to cover Casey Anthony, 367 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:46,864 she wouldn't even need to work that hard to do it. 368 00:17:46,898 --> 00:17:50,567 Firing an anchor for losing half his audience isn't unreasonable, 369 00:17:50,601 --> 00:17:52,102 if that's what you're asking. 370 00:17:52,136 --> 00:17:54,137 It wasn't and you know it. 371 00:17:56,206 --> 00:17:59,242 You're trying to get me to write this story without your fingerprints on it. 372 00:17:59,276 --> 00:18:03,546 AWM has to do business with Congress and you're making it much harder. 373 00:18:03,581 --> 00:18:06,582 Leona wants you fired, but can't do it unless she can explain it. 374 00:18:06,617 --> 00:18:09,184 She's hoping the tabloid stories build to a critical mass 375 00:18:09,219 --> 00:18:11,753 or that your ratings tank. 376 00:18:11,788 --> 00:18:14,389 Say something if I'm wrong, say nothing if I'm right. 377 00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:20,597 For what it's worth, I'd cave, too. 378 00:18:20,631 --> 00:18:25,669 No serious journalist would ever agree to the demands I made on Friday. 379 00:18:25,703 --> 00:18:28,104 So for what it's worth, you already did. 380 00:18:31,376 --> 00:18:33,244 Are you ready to answer questions about the newsletter? 381 00:18:33,278 --> 00:18:35,880 - I haven't read it. - The mock debate's Friday. 382 00:18:35,914 --> 00:18:38,316 No, I'm being Ron Paul right now. I didn't write it. 383 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:39,551 I've never read it. I've never heard it. 384 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:41,686 It's got my name on it, I've made money from it. 385 00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:44,222 The newsletters would get a standing ovation at a Klan rally, 386 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:46,324 but you should stop asking me questions about them. 387 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,426 - You need a better answer. - He needs a better answer. 388 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:51,096 Tell you what question I'd start off with. 389 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,365 - Congresswoman Bachmann. - Yes? 390 00:18:53,399 --> 00:18:56,234 You've said that you were told to run for president by God. 391 00:18:56,268 --> 00:18:58,069 - Please, I don't-- - You have, right? 392 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:01,338 You've said on a number of occasions that God told you to run for president. 393 00:19:01,373 --> 00:19:03,507 I have some clips here if you'd like me to refresh your memory. 394 00:19:03,541 --> 00:19:05,241 - Nope, my memory is fresh. - Here's my question. 395 00:19:05,276 --> 00:19:07,110 - Good. - What does God's voice sound like? 396 00:19:07,145 --> 00:19:09,679 I'm completely serious. 397 00:19:09,713 --> 00:19:12,448 She's saying that God spoke directly to her. 398 00:19:12,483 --> 00:19:14,150 How is this not the first question asked in a debate? 399 00:19:14,185 --> 00:19:15,919 How's it not the only question? 400 00:19:15,953 --> 00:19:18,689 What does His voice sound like? 401 00:19:18,723 --> 00:19:21,726 What did He say exactly word for word? 402 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,530 Did He speak in Hebrew? Acadian? Kiswahili-Bantu? 403 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:29,267 And to put it in a medical context, is this the first time you've heard voices? 404 00:19:29,301 --> 00:19:31,536 She's claiming to be a prophet. 405 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:33,605 The whole world is sitting on the edge of their seat. 406 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:36,108 How is this not the first question we'll ask? 407 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:39,044 First of all, can you stop pointing at me and saying she and her? 408 00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:41,213 You're the one who wanted to play a woman. 409 00:19:41,248 --> 00:19:42,815 But tell me why that question is out of line. 410 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:45,485 Because it's not the best way to demonstrate seriousness of intent 411 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:47,487 and it's not the best way not to insult people. 412 00:19:47,521 --> 00:19:50,256 - Which people? - Christians. 83% of the country. 413 00:19:50,291 --> 00:19:52,726 I'm one of them. And she's insulting me. 414 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,661 Please, stop pointing at me when you are-- 415 00:19:54,696 --> 00:19:57,598 Relax, J. Edgar. She's insulting me, 416 00:19:57,632 --> 00:20:00,501 she's insulting my family, she's insulting my congregation, 417 00:20:00,535 --> 00:20:01,936 and she's insulting my faith. 418 00:20:01,970 --> 00:20:04,238 She's implying that Christians are imbeciles 419 00:20:04,273 --> 00:20:06,608 who will believe anything while reducing God 420 00:20:06,642 --> 00:20:09,277 to a party hack who endorses political candidates. 421 00:20:09,312 --> 00:20:12,614 Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the first time since Moses 422 00:20:12,649 --> 00:20:15,918 that God has given direct instructions to someone other than His son. 423 00:20:15,952 --> 00:20:18,220 But if so, I think it deserves a follow-up. 424 00:20:18,255 --> 00:20:20,556 We're not going to get the debate if we're mocking their candidates. 425 00:20:20,591 --> 00:20:22,791 The whole point of the new debate format 426 00:20:22,826 --> 00:20:24,660 is to compel the candidates to tell the truth 427 00:20:24,694 --> 00:20:26,796 and make them responsible for their own rhetoric 428 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:29,531 by asking tougher questions than a Match.com profile. 429 00:20:29,566 --> 00:20:33,168 If she knows what God wants, then I'm voting for her. 430 00:20:33,203 --> 00:20:35,204 If she doesn't, she should stop saying so. 431 00:20:35,238 --> 00:20:37,406 I'm not attacking Christians. I'm defending them. 432 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,341 - All right. - Just a moment, please. 433 00:20:39,375 --> 00:20:42,244 - What? - I'm standing up for the tens of millions of Christians 434 00:20:42,278 --> 00:20:45,647 who are tired of being represented by having our identity-- 435 00:20:45,682 --> 00:20:47,583 There's been an identity theft. 436 00:20:47,617 --> 00:20:49,785 That's it. That's the one I want. 437 00:20:51,822 --> 00:20:53,689 I think you already know that starting tonight, 438 00:20:53,724 --> 00:20:55,991 we're leading with Casey Anthony. 439 00:20:56,025 --> 00:20:58,493 Does anyone have a problem with that? 440 00:20:58,528 --> 00:21:01,463 All right, well, we lost almost half a million viewers 441 00:21:01,497 --> 00:21:03,131 to Nancy Grace last week. 442 00:21:03,165 --> 00:21:05,066 Does anyone still have a problem with it? 443 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:08,636 We're gonna clear out some of these stories to make room. 444 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:12,606 "Senate obstruction become worst in US history." 445 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,708 That's a report by the Alliance For Justice. 446 00:21:14,743 --> 00:21:17,712 The Senate's confirmed a smaller percentage of Obama's judicial appointees 447 00:21:17,746 --> 00:21:19,613 than any other Senate and any other president. 448 00:21:19,648 --> 00:21:22,016 No reason to care about that. 449 00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:25,386 "Job situation dire, new stimulus needed." 450 00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:28,322 This Congress ran on jobs, but they're focused on debt. 451 00:21:28,357 --> 00:21:31,792 According to the payroll company ADP-- 452 00:21:31,827 --> 00:21:34,428 I just solved unemployment. 453 00:21:34,463 --> 00:21:37,832 "AFL-CIO sours on Obama." 454 00:21:37,867 --> 00:21:40,030 We've got an analyst lined up to give a report card 455 00:21:40,065 --> 00:21:41,398 on Obama's union relationship. 456 00:21:41,432 --> 00:21:43,733 Will the AFL-CIO still be sour on him tomorrow? 457 00:21:43,768 --> 00:21:46,970 - I don't know. - Let's find out. 458 00:21:47,004 --> 00:21:50,640 All right, to give us a crash course in how best 459 00:21:50,674 --> 00:21:52,775 to exploit this tragedy and to erase all boundaries 460 00:21:52,809 --> 00:21:54,877 of what should be used as entertainment, 461 00:21:54,911 --> 00:21:58,480 I've enlisted the help of a master of the dark arts. 462 00:21:58,514 --> 00:22:01,149 I understand I'm needed. 463 00:22:01,183 --> 00:22:04,185 - Thank you. - Forget everything you know about the news. 464 00:22:04,219 --> 00:22:06,387 Done. What's next? 465 00:22:39,353 --> 00:22:40,687 I'm Charlie Skinner. 466 00:22:40,721 --> 00:22:42,589 Good to meet you. 467 00:22:42,623 --> 00:22:44,891 Should I just sit here? 468 00:22:44,926 --> 00:22:47,527 Sure. 469 00:22:47,562 --> 00:22:49,930 Should I call you Mr. Hancock? 470 00:22:49,964 --> 00:22:51,765 It's Schneider. 471 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,867 - Schneider? - Ezra Schneider. 472 00:22:53,901 --> 00:22:56,436 How the hell many aliases do you have? 473 00:22:56,471 --> 00:22:57,838 I beg your pardon? 474 00:22:57,872 --> 00:22:59,940 Are you Late For Dinner? 475 00:22:59,974 --> 00:23:02,910 Mister, I have no idea what you're talking about. 476 00:23:02,944 --> 00:23:05,212 Charlie. 477 00:23:07,849 --> 00:23:10,117 That has to have been strange for you. 478 00:23:15,542 --> 00:23:17,162 Late For Dinner? 479 00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:20,081 - Solomon Hancock. - Charlie Skinner. 480 00:23:20,116 --> 00:23:22,784 I thought because of the carnation-- 481 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,753 Did we say anything about a carnation? 482 00:23:24,787 --> 00:23:28,491 No, but it's usually the international sign for-- 483 00:23:28,525 --> 00:23:30,092 It doesn't matter. 484 00:23:30,126 --> 00:23:32,094 I'm a busy guy and if you're faffin' me around... 485 00:23:32,128 --> 00:23:34,029 Would you mind taking the battery out of your cell phone? 486 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:37,266 The walls in the New York Public Library are three feet thick. 487 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:38,967 That's why we're meeting here. But I'd like you 488 00:23:39,002 --> 00:23:40,936 to take the battery out of your cell phone. 489 00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:42,738 You have reason to believe you're under surveillance? 490 00:23:42,772 --> 00:23:45,107 Everyone's under surveillance. If you've got a cell phone-- 491 00:23:45,141 --> 00:23:46,775 It's talk like that that makes me-- 492 00:23:46,809 --> 00:23:49,444 Did I or did I not establish credibility on May 1st? 493 00:23:49,478 --> 00:23:53,448 You correctly predicted that we'd all be called to work, yes. 494 00:23:53,482 --> 00:23:56,751 Sometimes at the NSA, we download a rolling bug 495 00:23:56,785 --> 00:23:59,954 onto smartphones to slave the microphone. 496 00:23:59,988 --> 00:24:02,557 You ever get an unwanted text message? 497 00:24:02,591 --> 00:24:05,159 All the time, but they're from my boss. 498 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:08,029 Here. 499 00:24:08,063 --> 00:24:11,198 I'll never be able to put that back together. 500 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:13,267 They're coming out with a better model in six months. 501 00:24:13,301 --> 00:24:15,368 That's unusual for the tech industry. 502 00:24:16,904 --> 00:24:18,839 Can you tell me a little about yourself? 503 00:24:18,873 --> 00:24:22,309 I started out chasing around a Soviet Pacific Fleet 504 00:24:22,343 --> 00:24:25,178 doing signal intelligence cryptology for the Navy. 505 00:24:25,212 --> 00:24:29,716 But when the Berlin Wall came down, my war was over. 506 00:24:29,751 --> 00:24:32,953 So I went into the private sector like everybody else in the '90s, 507 00:24:32,987 --> 00:24:34,355 only not for a dot-com, 508 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,658 doing data compression for fiber optics. 509 00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:40,495 Then 9/11 happened and I decided 510 00:24:40,529 --> 00:24:43,164 it was a good time to get back into public service hunting bad guys. 511 00:24:43,198 --> 00:24:44,265 You're an IT guy. 512 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,269 My title is Assistant Deputy Director 513 00:24:47,303 --> 00:24:50,972 of Technology and Systems, Cryptology, and Mathematics at NSA. 514 00:24:55,011 --> 00:24:56,478 I'm gonna have to-- 515 00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:01,718 I product test software. 516 00:25:01,752 --> 00:25:04,220 - NSA software? - Yes, sir. 517 00:25:04,254 --> 00:25:06,489 Can you tell me about the software? 518 00:25:07,758 --> 00:25:09,359 It's data mining. 519 00:25:09,393 --> 00:25:12,195 One of the ways the NSA was tracking bin Laden, 520 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:13,897 or any terrorist for that matter, 521 00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:17,166 was to write code that would sift through 522 00:25:17,201 --> 00:25:19,168 millions of electronic communications 523 00:25:19,203 --> 00:25:21,237 looking for a needle in a giant haystack. 524 00:25:21,271 --> 00:25:24,373 You know the machine that Batman uses in The Dark Knight 525 00:25:24,407 --> 00:25:26,808 to find the Joker, but when Morgan Freeman finds out about it, 526 00:25:26,843 --> 00:25:29,878 he says, "I'm quitting because no man should have this much power"? 527 00:25:29,912 --> 00:25:32,880 - No. - No what? 528 00:25:32,915 --> 00:25:36,818 - I do not know that machine. - Well, it exists. 529 00:25:36,852 --> 00:25:40,159 We gave the contract to two defense contracting big boys 530 00:25:40,193 --> 00:25:42,594 and it was my job mostly to make sure that they delivered 531 00:25:42,629 --> 00:25:44,129 and that it worked. 532 00:25:44,164 --> 00:25:46,866 The project title is GLOBAL CLARITY 533 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:50,904 and it intercepts 1.7 billion phone calls, 534 00:25:50,938 --> 00:25:53,039 emails, and texts every day. 535 00:25:53,074 --> 00:25:54,875 - Legally? - By what standard? 536 00:25:54,909 --> 00:25:56,910 - The law. - No. 537 00:25:56,944 --> 00:25:59,346 It involves a significant amount of illegal, 538 00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:01,615 warrantless wiretapping of American citizens. 539 00:26:01,649 --> 00:26:04,784 Just to be-- When you say warrantless, 540 00:26:04,819 --> 00:26:06,686 are you saying unnecessary? 541 00:26:06,721 --> 00:26:09,590 Without a warrant. Warrantless. 542 00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:11,892 We could hunt for terrorists legally, 543 00:26:11,926 --> 00:26:14,761 but due to our bosses' devotion to GLOBAL CLARITY, 544 00:26:14,796 --> 00:26:18,432 the NSA has been happily violating the Fourth Amendment, 545 00:26:18,466 --> 00:26:20,367 USSID 18, 546 00:26:20,401 --> 00:26:24,838 and about a dozen of the NSA's own regulations about spying on Americans. 547 00:26:24,873 --> 00:26:28,042 You've got guys listening in on ex-wives, 548 00:26:28,076 --> 00:26:30,778 dropping in on calls from soldiers overseas, 549 00:26:30,813 --> 00:26:32,980 checking out what movie stars are up to. 550 00:26:33,015 --> 00:26:35,216 Am I the first person you've talked to about this? 551 00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:38,553 No, stop confusing me with Donald Sutherland in JFK. 552 00:26:38,587 --> 00:26:40,354 Well, a second ago, you were Morgan Freeman. 553 00:26:40,389 --> 00:26:42,356 I have testified in front of Congress 554 00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:45,259 and to the Pentagon Inspector General. I got nowhere. 555 00:26:45,293 --> 00:26:47,562 Nobody on the Hill wants to admit it's fucked up 556 00:26:47,596 --> 00:26:51,699 because nobody wants to be seen as post-9/11 soft. 557 00:26:51,734 --> 00:26:54,302 Where does AWM come in? 558 00:26:54,337 --> 00:26:56,905 Atlantis World Media owns Atlantis Cable News. 559 00:26:56,940 --> 00:27:00,042 - Yeah. - It also owns the tabloid TMI. 560 00:27:00,076 --> 00:27:03,045 - Yeah. - The shit that's happening 561 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,181 at Murdoch's News of the World in London, 562 00:27:05,215 --> 00:27:07,684 TMI has been doing the same thing for years. 563 00:27:07,718 --> 00:27:10,887 - How high does it go? - I don't know. 564 00:27:10,921 --> 00:27:13,156 Does it go as high as Leona Lansing? 565 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:14,791 - No. - Good. 566 00:27:14,825 --> 00:27:17,460 It goes as high as her son. 567 00:27:17,494 --> 00:27:20,997 TMI is doing phone and computer hacking 568 00:27:21,031 --> 00:27:22,632 and Reese Lansing knows? 569 00:27:22,666 --> 00:27:24,834 Reese has been ordering it. 570 00:27:24,868 --> 00:27:27,670 - I'm gonna give you-- - Hang on. 571 00:27:27,704 --> 00:27:29,705 I need to digest that. 572 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:33,642 Reese Lansing is James Murdoch, 573 00:27:33,676 --> 00:27:36,311 but Lansing's been ordering it. 574 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:39,014 Digested yet? 575 00:27:44,187 --> 00:27:45,787 These classified? 576 00:27:45,822 --> 00:27:47,756 Yeah, because I'm dying to violate the Espionage Act. 577 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:50,426 These are just transcripts of my testimony 578 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:53,129 before the House subcommittee and the Pentagon. 579 00:27:53,163 --> 00:27:56,866 Vet me, vet the material. Take all the time you need. 580 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:58,968 Why are you whistle-blowing? 581 00:28:00,370 --> 00:28:02,638 I fought the Soviets. 582 00:28:02,672 --> 00:28:05,240 The way their government made their people live their lives 583 00:28:05,274 --> 00:28:07,843 was a very good reason to fight them. 584 00:28:07,877 --> 00:28:10,078 After 9/11, 585 00:28:10,113 --> 00:28:12,748 we started doing the exact same thing. 586 00:28:12,782 --> 00:28:15,851 I didn't spend my life fighting Communists 587 00:28:15,885 --> 00:28:17,786 to have it come to this. 588 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:20,289 Report on GLOBAL CLARITY. 589 00:28:20,323 --> 00:28:22,558 And once I see that report, I'll give you what you need 590 00:28:22,592 --> 00:28:24,493 to protect yourself from Leona Lansing. 591 00:28:24,528 --> 00:28:27,463 How do you know we need protecting from Leona Lansing? 592 00:28:27,497 --> 00:28:30,399 Have you been listening? 'Cause we have. 593 00:28:50,286 --> 00:28:52,887 This woman is the best I've ever seen. 594 00:28:52,922 --> 00:28:54,723 Center screen is Nancy. 595 00:28:54,757 --> 00:28:56,892 These three corners are live feeds of the guest experts. 596 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,294 - What are they experts in? - Agreeing with everything Nancy says. 597 00:28:59,328 --> 00:29:01,096 - But what keeps your atten-- - Excuse me. 598 00:29:02,999 --> 00:29:05,034 This is Brian Brenner, everyone. 599 00:29:05,068 --> 00:29:07,336 It's possible he's going to be writing a feature on 2.0. 600 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:09,705 But we're in a tryout period right now. 601 00:29:09,739 --> 00:29:11,140 Everything's off the record. 602 00:29:11,174 --> 00:29:13,309 Go ahead. What keeps our attention? 603 00:29:13,343 --> 00:29:14,877 Is the bottom right corner where they're playing 604 00:29:14,945 --> 00:29:17,213 a loop of little Caylee from a home video. 605 00:29:17,247 --> 00:29:20,984 Question: Hell. Do you think it's as bad as everyone says it is? 606 00:29:21,018 --> 00:29:23,754 That was a tribute to Caylee. 607 00:29:23,788 --> 00:29:27,091 But how will they explain the duct tape 608 00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:29,427 around the child's mouth and nose? 609 00:29:29,461 --> 00:29:30,828 And how will they explain 610 00:29:30,863 --> 00:29:34,165 all the lies that Tot Mom told? 611 00:29:34,199 --> 00:29:36,033 Now they're not talking about the tattoo 612 00:29:36,068 --> 00:29:38,168 on Casey's back, but they put it full screen. Why? 613 00:29:38,203 --> 00:29:40,003 Because Tess was just about to look somewhere else, 614 00:29:40,038 --> 00:29:42,038 so they changed the frame to anything that might keep her attention. 615 00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,640 He's right. I was gonna Google Mac's hell question. 616 00:29:44,675 --> 00:29:46,108 Plus tattoo equals bad mom. 617 00:29:46,143 --> 00:29:48,044 No one's ever gone broke in America serving up 618 00:29:48,112 --> 00:29:49,512 a woman who makes other women feel superior. 619 00:29:49,546 --> 00:29:51,647 The series of lies 620 00:29:51,682 --> 00:29:54,383 that finally came crashing down around her. 621 00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:56,385 If she would lie about that, 622 00:29:56,419 --> 00:29:58,853 why should I believe an accident is true? 623 00:29:58,888 --> 00:30:01,055 Don't spend time thinking about her airtight syllogism. 624 00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:03,391 Her EP's showing duct tape and a plastic bag, 625 00:30:03,425 --> 00:30:06,127 so you know you're watching the real CSI Miami. 626 00:30:06,161 --> 00:30:08,129 How to make weapons 627 00:30:08,163 --> 00:30:10,998 out of home materials found in the home. 628 00:30:11,032 --> 00:30:13,500 About breaking necks. 629 00:30:13,535 --> 00:30:15,869 How can they explain that? 630 00:30:15,903 --> 00:30:18,238 They can't explain it, Nancy. 631 00:30:18,273 --> 00:30:21,642 The defense is doing what the defense has to do. 632 00:30:21,676 --> 00:30:24,144 Now, Bill Sheaffer has done his job. 633 00:30:24,179 --> 00:30:26,680 He agreed with Nancy. We don't need to see his face anymore. 634 00:30:26,715 --> 00:30:28,916 Look how cute Caylee is. 635 00:30:28,951 --> 00:30:31,653 She deserved better than a mom with a tattoo. 636 00:30:31,687 --> 00:30:33,187 She deserved... 637 00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:36,090 - She deserved... - Me. 638 00:30:36,124 --> 00:30:37,925 - Me. - Me. 639 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,294 Tess, how's that Google search coming? 640 00:30:40,329 --> 00:30:42,664 It does look pretty bad. A lot of fire. 641 00:30:42,698 --> 00:30:45,466 You'll notice little of her coverage in this instance is about the law. 642 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:47,267 You know, come to think of it, I did notice that. 643 00:30:47,302 --> 00:30:49,103 It's all based on an emotional appeal. 644 00:30:49,137 --> 00:30:51,772 The way she would with a jury if there was no judge there to stop her. 645 00:30:51,806 --> 00:30:53,674 Watch how she breaks down courtroom footage. 646 00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:56,377 Liz, let's see the video of Tot Mom 647 00:30:56,411 --> 00:31:00,381 and Jose Baez back at it in court again today. 648 00:31:00,415 --> 00:31:04,953 Not a good look between a death penalty defendant 649 00:31:04,987 --> 00:31:07,355 and the lead defense attorney. 650 00:31:07,389 --> 00:31:09,123 Two seconds. 651 00:31:09,158 --> 00:31:12,193 Two seconds of Casey Anthony walking past her lawyer-- 652 00:31:12,227 --> 00:31:14,128 And she'll show it to you in slow motion 653 00:31:14,163 --> 00:31:16,598 and from a different angle 654 00:31:16,632 --> 00:31:19,467 and at regular speed and from the original angle again. 655 00:31:19,502 --> 00:31:21,536 - What does that remind you of? - Instant replay in sports. 656 00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:23,371 And she looks pretty pissed at her lawyer. 657 00:31:23,405 --> 00:31:26,107 And that's exactly why she's showing it to you so many times. 658 00:31:26,142 --> 00:31:28,543 So you have a chance to draw your own thoroughly uninformed opinion 659 00:31:28,578 --> 00:31:30,246 about an utterly innocuous exchange. 660 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,747 She looks pissed. 661 00:31:31,781 --> 00:31:34,517 I wonder if she's sleeping with her lawyer. I bet she is. 662 00:31:34,551 --> 00:31:36,652 I wonder if that's what she looked like when she killed Caylee. 663 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,722 This is the best TV ever. I've got to go on my Casey Anthony Facebook page 664 00:31:39,756 --> 00:31:42,325 and see if my Casey Anthony Facebook friends just saw Casey Anthony 665 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,327 make a Casey Anthony face at her Casey Anthony lawyer. 666 00:31:44,361 --> 00:31:47,096 All right, enough. Will's a criminal prosecutor. 667 00:31:47,131 --> 00:31:50,232 Maybe he can talk about how our justice system wasn't built to lock up guilty people. 668 00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:52,000 It was built to keep innocent people free, 669 00:31:52,035 --> 00:31:54,670 which is something Americans should be proud of and fiercely protect. 670 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,505 No. 671 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:58,808 He can't ever imply that the viewer 672 00:31:58,842 --> 00:32:00,576 doesn't already know everything and that she might be innocent. 673 00:32:00,611 --> 00:32:03,447 If we're gonna cover this, we're gonna cover it our way. 674 00:32:03,481 --> 00:32:05,215 What's the point of covering it at all unless we do it 675 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:06,950 in a way that gets our audience back? 676 00:32:06,985 --> 00:32:08,986 A modest proposal. We could ourselves 677 00:32:09,021 --> 00:32:10,588 commit murder on our air. 678 00:32:10,623 --> 00:32:13,091 In your face, Nancy Grace! 679 00:32:16,695 --> 00:32:18,363 How do we get the best guests? 680 00:32:18,397 --> 00:32:20,898 There's a guy you're gonna have to deal with named Dylan Kagin. 681 00:32:20,933 --> 00:32:23,801 He's like the Broadway Danny Rose of tabloid suffering. 682 00:32:23,836 --> 00:32:25,169 He's an agent? 683 00:32:25,204 --> 00:32:26,738 You ever ask yourself why of all the missing kids 684 00:32:26,772 --> 00:32:28,472 and murdered coeds, most of them go unnoticed 685 00:32:28,507 --> 00:32:30,508 - and some become national scandals? - Sex appeal. 686 00:32:30,542 --> 00:32:33,645 Right, but someone's got to find Lana Turner sitting at the drugstore counter. 687 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:37,115 Dylan Kagin gropes through the trailer park of American jurisprudence 688 00:32:37,149 --> 00:32:38,950 for what he calls "Oh, my God" stories. 689 00:32:38,984 --> 00:32:41,752 Then he drops in on the victims, the accused, the jurors, the cops, 690 00:32:41,787 --> 00:32:43,954 whoever he can sell to the press, the networks, and the studios. 691 00:32:43,988 --> 00:32:45,389 He packages the missing white girl. 692 00:32:45,423 --> 00:32:47,357 All right, that'll be the A block. 693 00:32:47,392 --> 00:32:48,659 By 2:00, show me where we are. 694 00:32:48,693 --> 00:32:50,193 The B block's gonna be Anthony Weiner, 695 00:32:50,228 --> 00:32:51,962 so, Jim, start putting something together. 696 00:32:51,996 --> 00:32:54,631 All we really have are the pictures and Weiner not answering questions. 697 00:32:54,665 --> 00:32:57,501 - I know that. - You don't want to wait until we have-- 698 00:32:57,535 --> 00:32:59,636 Facts? No, that would be newsy and elitist. 699 00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:01,771 Let's just call them-- The A and the B block-- 700 00:33:01,806 --> 00:33:03,573 Let's just think of them as a polished, 701 00:33:03,608 --> 00:33:05,475 tightly produced abomination. 702 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:07,544 I've been sitting here and I'm getting a little sick of this. 703 00:33:07,578 --> 00:33:09,513 - You and me both. - Jesus Christ. 704 00:33:09,547 --> 00:33:12,082 For a few weeks, we're not gonna ask the country to eat its vegetables. 705 00:33:12,117 --> 00:33:14,485 Why? Because there's a debate we want to do 706 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,354 that trumps all of your Sarah Lawrence ethical conundrums. 707 00:33:17,388 --> 00:33:19,156 It shouldn't be too hard to understand. 708 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:21,358 So get it the fuck together. 709 00:33:23,861 --> 00:33:25,696 He happens to be right. 710 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:27,931 "War on drugs a failure." 711 00:33:27,966 --> 00:33:30,467 I know how it feels. 712 00:33:34,339 --> 00:33:36,073 Show me where we are at 2:00. 713 00:33:38,077 --> 00:33:40,846 - Can I see you a second? - Yeah. 714 00:33:51,157 --> 00:33:53,592 - Do you mind if I sit in on-- - Yeah, sorry, no. 715 00:33:54,928 --> 00:33:57,196 Not sure that's the best way to get good press. 716 00:33:57,231 --> 00:33:59,900 May 1st, the night we got bin Laden, I got a call 717 00:33:59,934 --> 00:34:02,268 from an anonymous source at 7:30 718 00:34:02,303 --> 00:34:04,638 telling me the White House would send an email blast 719 00:34:04,672 --> 00:34:06,973 to all the news agencies in 90 minutes, 720 00:34:07,008 --> 00:34:09,677 and obviously it turned out he was right. 721 00:34:09,711 --> 00:34:12,580 He was demonstrating his credibility. 722 00:34:12,614 --> 00:34:14,749 His name is Solomon Hancock. 723 00:34:14,783 --> 00:34:17,117 He works in software engineering at the NSA 724 00:34:17,152 --> 00:34:19,319 and he handed me a stack of documents, 725 00:34:19,354 --> 00:34:22,455 transcripts of his testimony describing illegal surveillance. 726 00:34:22,490 --> 00:34:24,724 We have to start vetting him and the documents. 727 00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:26,892 It's gonna take at least a few days, but that's part one. 728 00:34:26,927 --> 00:34:28,293 What's part two? 729 00:34:28,328 --> 00:34:30,796 If we air his story, he'll give us evidence 730 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:33,898 that TMI's been doing the same thing as News of the World. 731 00:34:36,101 --> 00:34:37,802 - Hacking? - Everything. 732 00:34:37,837 --> 00:34:40,406 - TMI's been hacking? - Hancock says he's got the proof. 733 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,808 Jesus Christ. How high does he say it goes? 734 00:34:42,876 --> 00:34:44,143 Reese. 735 00:34:45,713 --> 00:34:47,981 - Let's get on with the vet. - I'll have Jim run it. 736 00:34:48,015 --> 00:34:49,916 - Is he up for this? - He is, Will. 737 00:34:49,950 --> 00:34:51,517 I taught him how to do the news. 738 00:34:51,552 --> 00:34:53,953 I taught them all how to do the news. 739 00:34:53,988 --> 00:34:56,289 Can you give us a second? 740 00:34:56,323 --> 00:34:58,625 I'm done. 741 00:35:02,896 --> 00:35:04,764 Why did it have to be Brian? 742 00:35:06,166 --> 00:35:08,634 Because I own him now. He needs a cover story. 743 00:35:08,668 --> 00:35:10,469 If he writes a negative one, he'll get slammed 744 00:35:10,504 --> 00:35:12,604 with the whole soap opera of our history. 745 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:14,006 Are you lying right now? 746 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,442 - Anything else? - Yeah. 747 00:35:16,476 --> 00:35:20,313 Sloan says on Thursday, the House is gonna vote to default on our loans, 748 00:35:20,347 --> 00:35:22,982 leading to a global economic meltdown. 749 00:35:23,017 --> 00:35:27,253 Should I put that before or after Anthony Weiner in his underwear? 750 00:35:29,023 --> 00:35:31,491 I'm sure you'll figure it out. 751 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,567 That's all for us tonight. 752 00:35:41,602 --> 00:35:43,602 Tomorrow we'll be bringing you all the highlights 753 00:35:43,637 --> 00:35:46,439 from day seven of the trial and Detective Yuri Melich, 754 00:35:46,473 --> 00:35:50,010 the first officer to interview Casey Anthony in 2008. 755 00:35:50,044 --> 00:35:51,912 Terry Smith is coming up from Washington 756 00:35:51,946 --> 00:35:54,014 with the Capital Report. I'm Will McAvoy. 757 00:35:54,048 --> 00:35:56,850 Good night. 758 00:36:06,026 --> 00:36:09,161 Will McAvoy, your new choice for Casey Anthony coverage. 759 00:36:09,196 --> 00:36:10,729 - They're coming home. - Yeah? 760 00:36:10,764 --> 00:36:12,197 We promo'd the hell of it. 761 00:36:12,232 --> 00:36:14,066 We got 150,000 viewers back. 762 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,935 25-54, almost all women. 763 00:36:16,969 --> 00:36:19,504 That's toasters, furniture, food, clothes, 764 00:36:19,538 --> 00:36:22,339 kids' clothes, vacation plans. 765 00:36:22,374 --> 00:36:24,308 Our heads are above water now, so do not stop. 766 00:36:24,342 --> 00:36:26,010 - We won't. - How about this heat? 767 00:36:26,044 --> 00:36:28,078 - Yeah. - 9:00 in the morning, it's already 87. 768 00:36:28,112 --> 00:36:30,280 It's gonna hit 98. That would beat the record for this day 769 00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:32,649 - that was set in 1933. - Yeah. 770 00:36:32,683 --> 00:36:34,651 - You're looking at me funny. - Yeah? 771 00:36:34,685 --> 00:36:37,120 - I know you hate this. - I'm looking at you the regular way. 772 00:36:37,154 --> 00:36:38,321 - If you say so. - I do. 773 00:36:38,355 --> 00:36:41,491 There are also tornado warnings. 774 00:36:41,525 --> 00:36:44,194 - Reese. - What? 775 00:36:44,228 --> 00:36:46,964 - Nothing. - All right, so it's gonna get up to 98. 776 00:36:46,998 --> 00:36:50,301 That's a record. And there are tornado warnings for New York City. 777 00:36:50,335 --> 00:36:52,503 Well, you know, Aunt Bee, tornados are just God's way 778 00:36:52,538 --> 00:36:54,372 of destroying property and killing people. 779 00:36:54,406 --> 00:36:55,873 People like hearing about extreme weather. 780 00:36:55,907 --> 00:36:57,708 We're not doing a fucking weather report, okay? 781 00:36:57,743 --> 00:36:59,611 We're not coming up with some "Tornado Watch" graphic. 782 00:36:59,645 --> 00:37:01,746 We're a serious news organization. 783 00:37:01,780 --> 00:37:04,782 Tonight we'll be reporting on the killer cocktail waitress and the congressman-- 784 00:37:04,816 --> 00:37:07,218 - Is Mac bitching at you? - Not nearly as much as she should be. 785 00:37:07,252 --> 00:37:10,254 I came in here to tell you you got back 150,000 viewers 786 00:37:10,288 --> 00:37:11,822 you lost while you were trying to be above it. 787 00:37:11,857 --> 00:37:13,991 We'll be sure not to try that again. 788 00:37:14,025 --> 00:37:15,459 98 degrees is when we have power outages. 789 00:37:15,494 --> 00:37:17,328 Wait a second. Wait a second. 790 00:37:17,362 --> 00:37:19,363 I don't want to go all conspiracy theory on you, 791 00:37:19,397 --> 00:37:21,832 but I think the heat might be related to power outages. 792 00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:24,668 - Take it easy. - Say hi to your mom. 793 00:37:24,702 --> 00:37:26,770 Will do. 794 00:37:28,372 --> 00:37:31,408 Visiting hours will be Tuesday and Friday. 795 00:37:31,475 --> 00:37:33,510 Don't be nervous. 796 00:37:36,313 --> 00:37:39,582 We got 150,000 viewers back last night. Mostly women. 797 00:37:39,616 --> 00:37:41,116 - I know. - I was telling her. 798 00:37:41,151 --> 00:37:44,120 You know, it's gonna get up to 98 degrees. 799 00:37:44,154 --> 00:37:45,621 Next person who tells me about the damn weather... 800 00:37:45,656 --> 00:37:46,956 Do you know what you're doing here? 801 00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:48,891 I've been asked to tell you about the weather. 802 00:37:48,925 --> 00:37:52,294 Does it feel to you like anyone in this room is in the mood for a joke? 803 00:37:52,328 --> 00:37:54,462 It absolutely does not. 804 00:37:54,497 --> 00:37:56,431 We want you to lead the vetting of this source. 805 00:37:56,466 --> 00:37:59,901 He's telling us about illegal surveillance at the NSA. 806 00:37:59,935 --> 00:38:04,072 He's also telling us that TMI is in the same game as News of the World. 807 00:38:04,107 --> 00:38:06,008 Jesus. 808 00:38:06,042 --> 00:38:08,543 We're looking at a couple of scenarios, Jim. 809 00:38:08,578 --> 00:38:10,712 One is that we're sitting on a scoop that could shake up the NSA 810 00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:12,547 and maybe have the country take another look at the Patriot Act. 811 00:38:12,582 --> 00:38:14,750 But the TMI element, doesn't that-- 812 00:38:14,784 --> 00:38:17,319 And another is that someone's trying to discredit us 813 00:38:17,354 --> 00:38:20,056 by having Will get Dan Rather-ed. 814 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:23,760 You'll need to file a couple of hundred Freedom of Information Act requests 815 00:38:23,794 --> 00:38:26,329 and you'll need to get into this guy's personal life 816 00:38:26,364 --> 00:38:28,799 and you'll need to do it all 817 00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:32,069 without raising any flags at the NSA. 818 00:38:32,104 --> 00:38:33,604 Are you up for this? 819 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:40,578 - Yeah. - We don't need it fast, we need it right. 820 00:38:40,612 --> 00:38:43,747 - But we need it fast. - I'll start mapping it out. 821 00:38:43,782 --> 00:38:45,615 Jim, since the day you started working here, 822 00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:48,352 I never felt the need to remind you about confidentiality 823 00:38:48,386 --> 00:38:50,287 and I don't feel that need now. 824 00:38:54,025 --> 00:38:56,093 Okay. 825 00:39:05,103 --> 00:39:06,738 - Gotcha. - Oh, God. 826 00:39:06,772 --> 00:39:09,073 - You feel like being interviewed? - You read my mind. 827 00:39:09,108 --> 00:39:10,909 I can't think of anything I'd rather do right now 828 00:39:10,943 --> 00:39:12,811 than be interviewed by my ex-boyfriend, 829 00:39:12,845 --> 00:39:14,078 except maybe eat my desk. 830 00:39:14,113 --> 00:39:16,514 - It seems like a bad week to be here. - It is. 831 00:39:16,548 --> 00:39:19,517 I came here to write a story about how Will and News Night changed overnight. 832 00:39:19,551 --> 00:39:21,585 - And then you changed overnight. - Look. 833 00:39:21,619 --> 00:39:24,154 - It's the old Will all over-- - These are extraordinary circumstances. 834 00:39:24,188 --> 00:39:25,922 That's what everyone says when they abandon their principles. 835 00:39:25,957 --> 00:39:28,524 I'm no longer required to live up to your standards. 836 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,261 - Fair enough. - Thank you. 837 00:39:35,098 --> 00:39:36,932 What's so special about this debate? 838 00:39:36,967 --> 00:39:39,135 If we get what we want, no one will ever go back. 839 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:40,736 We'll have changed the debates forever. 840 00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:43,572 And your concern is that if your ratings are low, you'll lose leverage? 841 00:39:43,607 --> 00:39:45,875 - Yes. - Is that your concern or Will's concern? 842 00:39:45,909 --> 00:39:47,810 Will's concerns are my concerns. 843 00:39:47,844 --> 00:39:50,980 'Cause another way of looking at it is that he lost his invisible friends 844 00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:54,283 to Nancy Grace and he's using the debate as an excuse to dumb the show down. 845 00:39:54,318 --> 00:39:57,387 That's a pretty bold statement from a guy who's auditioning for a job. 846 00:39:57,421 --> 00:39:59,822 He's gonna give me the job. And it's not like I don't know why. 847 00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:02,892 - Do you? - I do because I'm not a fucking moron. 848 00:40:02,927 --> 00:40:05,328 The email that was read by everyone in the world, 849 00:40:05,363 --> 00:40:08,565 "I cheated on Will," you were talking about me, right? 850 00:40:11,836 --> 00:40:14,672 - Yes. - You were seeing Will while we were together? 851 00:40:14,706 --> 00:40:16,674 If you count drunk dialing me at midnight and saying, 852 00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:20,012 "Just come on over and crawl into bed" as being together, then yes. 853 00:40:20,046 --> 00:40:21,380 - I count it. - Then yes. 854 00:40:21,414 --> 00:40:23,048 You cheated on me with Will? 855 00:40:23,082 --> 00:40:25,885 Let's be as clear as anyone has ever been about anything. 856 00:40:25,919 --> 00:40:27,820 I cheated on Will with you. 857 00:40:27,854 --> 00:40:29,255 And I'm paying the price. 858 00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:31,358 I work 30 feet from the life I could have had 859 00:40:31,392 --> 00:40:32,859 if I hadn't been so stupid. 860 00:40:32,893 --> 00:40:34,961 And you're looking at the life you could have had 861 00:40:34,996 --> 00:40:37,097 if you hadn't been a douchebag. 862 00:40:40,835 --> 00:40:43,170 How's the interview going so far? 863 00:40:43,204 --> 00:40:45,906 Is douchebag one word or two? 864 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:48,241 Come in. 865 00:40:48,276 --> 00:40:51,645 - Sorry, I can come back. - No, what do you need? 866 00:40:52,947 --> 00:40:57,684 Ahem, well, there's a story I'd like to pitch. 867 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,888 Brian, this is Neal Sampat. Neal writes Will's blog. 868 00:41:00,922 --> 00:41:03,624 - Will doesn't write Will's blog? - Will can't find Will's blog. 869 00:41:03,658 --> 00:41:05,926 Neal wants to be a producer, so from time to time, 870 00:41:05,961 --> 00:41:08,662 he pitches stories. What do you got? 871 00:41:08,697 --> 00:41:10,298 You know what a troll is, right? 872 00:41:10,332 --> 00:41:12,533 A tiny creature that stands under a footbridge 873 00:41:12,568 --> 00:41:15,136 and makes you answer a riddle before you're allowed to pass. 874 00:41:15,171 --> 00:41:17,205 - They're not real, man. - I know that. 875 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,573 He means the other kind of troll. 876 00:41:18,608 --> 00:41:20,909 You don't know the first clue what he means. 877 00:41:20,944 --> 00:41:22,578 I mean the other kind of troll. 878 00:41:22,612 --> 00:41:24,513 A little backup would have killed you? 879 00:41:24,581 --> 00:41:26,716 Sorry, Internet trolls. It's a play on a fishing term. 880 00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,017 People who go to message boards 881 00:41:28,052 --> 00:41:29,819 and try to hijack the conversation by being incendiary. 882 00:41:29,853 --> 00:41:32,155 - What about them? - Turns out they have their own websites. 883 00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:34,657 Like an online clubhouse. And to be accepted into the group, 884 00:41:34,692 --> 00:41:36,893 you have to be able to point to a successful incident of trolling, 885 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:40,097 a recent time when you made a whole bunch of posters lose their minds. 886 00:41:40,131 --> 00:41:42,732 Or better yet, got the site monitor to shut down the board. 887 00:41:42,767 --> 00:41:45,635 Actually, I like it. And it's not about Bigfoot. 888 00:41:45,669 --> 00:41:48,104 Write this down, News Night is gonna break the story on Bigfoot. 889 00:41:48,138 --> 00:41:51,274 We're not. Don't write that down. Will they talk to you? 890 00:41:51,308 --> 00:41:54,310 They won't talk to a reporter, but I thought maybe I'd try to get in there. 891 00:41:54,344 --> 00:41:58,114 Undercover? Aren't you gonna have to say you trolled something? 892 00:41:58,148 --> 00:42:00,482 I'm not gonna have to say it, I'm gonna actually have to do it. 893 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:02,151 To who? 894 00:42:02,185 --> 00:42:05,454 Well, I don't want to ding on an innocent person for a story, 895 00:42:05,489 --> 00:42:07,056 so I'm gonna have to do it to one of us. 896 00:42:07,090 --> 00:42:08,190 You can't be anonymous on our website. 897 00:42:08,225 --> 00:42:09,325 No, I mean do it to us on another website. 898 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:11,861 - What would it be? - I don't know yet. 899 00:42:11,896 --> 00:42:14,898 Come back when you know, but you've made it past the first hurdle. 900 00:42:14,932 --> 00:42:17,234 Thank you. 901 00:42:20,138 --> 00:42:22,071 - Sloan. - How's her mood in there? 902 00:42:22,106 --> 00:42:24,174 It's not good, but let me ask you something. 903 00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:26,710 For the sake of a story, 904 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:30,814 how would you feel about me going on the Internet and saying vicious things 905 00:42:30,848 --> 00:42:33,049 about you that might get an argument started about misogyny? 906 00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:35,684 - What kind of vicious things? - I don't know. 907 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,887 - What would the general area be? - I really don't know. 908 00:42:37,921 --> 00:42:40,957 - Something about the way you look? - Like what? 909 00:42:40,991 --> 00:42:43,359 - I'd be making it up. - What would you be making up? 910 00:42:43,393 --> 00:42:46,729 It wouldn't be true. It'd be something like-- 911 00:42:46,763 --> 00:42:49,632 Something along the lines of she screwed her way to the top 912 00:42:49,666 --> 00:42:52,468 and she's got a big ass. Only it would have to be-- 913 00:42:52,502 --> 00:42:55,137 Listen to me, Sampat. 914 00:42:55,172 --> 00:42:57,873 - Do I? - Of course not. 915 00:43:00,043 --> 00:43:02,878 Okay. 916 00:43:02,913 --> 00:43:04,647 - I can do it? - You cannot. 917 00:43:04,681 --> 00:43:06,782 If you want, you can say that I made it to the final round 918 00:43:06,817 --> 00:43:08,818 of the K through six regionals in the Scripps Howard Spelling Bee. 919 00:43:08,852 --> 00:43:11,754 That's not gonna help me. 920 00:43:11,788 --> 00:43:15,057 You know, a lot of guys like women with big-- 921 00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:17,727 Do they really? 922 00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:19,329 Never mind. 923 00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:21,664 I don't know what you're talking about and I have my own problems. 924 00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:29,706 - Jim. - Yeah? 925 00:43:29,741 --> 00:43:31,575 I got a woman on the phone who says she's got some tweets 926 00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:33,077 from Anthony Weiner and wants to talk to us. 927 00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,880 - What are you telling me for? - Seniority? 928 00:43:35,914 --> 00:43:39,183 Well, I'm handing her off to the next most senior person. 929 00:43:39,217 --> 00:43:40,584 Kendra, take the Weiner girl. 930 00:43:40,619 --> 00:43:42,686 - Gary, take the Weiner girl. - Tess. 931 00:43:42,721 --> 00:43:46,123 - Tamara. - We were hired as interns the same day. 932 00:43:46,158 --> 00:43:48,993 I was hired in the morning. You were hired after lunch. Take the Weiner girl. 933 00:43:49,027 --> 00:43:52,597 - Please, don't make me take the Weiner girl. - Respect the seniority. 934 00:43:52,631 --> 00:43:54,665 Who do I have seniority over? 935 00:43:56,368 --> 00:43:57,835 Maggie. 936 00:43:59,905 --> 00:44:02,373 - Can people still see me? - On five. 937 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:09,714 Hi, this is Margaret Jordan. 938 00:44:09,748 --> 00:44:11,883 I'm an associate producer at News Night. 939 00:44:11,917 --> 00:44:14,685 Okay, can you spell that for me? 940 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,321 Okay, wait. 941 00:44:17,355 --> 00:44:18,622 Hang on. 942 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:21,292 I-- No, you're gonna get a chance. 943 00:44:22,861 --> 00:44:27,197 Uh, well, you certainly seem to want to share your story. 944 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,567 You really can't just drop in on a doctor. 945 00:44:30,602 --> 00:44:33,037 - What if it's an emergency? - You go to the emergency room. 946 00:44:33,071 --> 00:44:34,872 They don't have psychiatric emergency rooms. 947 00:44:34,907 --> 00:44:37,242 They should. You're a good reason why. 948 00:44:37,276 --> 00:44:40,177 - You want a piece of me? - Seriously? 949 00:44:40,212 --> 00:44:42,346 - No. - Yeah. 950 00:44:46,585 --> 00:44:48,118 Does he look over at the red light? 951 00:44:48,153 --> 00:44:49,420 Does he look every few minutes? 952 00:44:49,454 --> 00:44:50,588 If I was your therapist, 953 00:44:50,622 --> 00:44:52,556 I'd definitely look every few minutes. 954 00:44:53,892 --> 00:44:55,058 Hey, hey, you can't do that. 955 00:44:55,093 --> 00:44:57,394 It's okay. He likes me. 956 00:44:57,428 --> 00:44:59,763 - Will. - I'm sorry. 957 00:44:59,797 --> 00:45:01,531 - I'm with a patient. - I really just need a second. 958 00:45:01,565 --> 00:45:04,434 I'm glad to see you back here, but you need to come during your appointment. 959 00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:07,037 I could be dead by then. 960 00:45:07,071 --> 00:45:08,672 Are you having suicidal thoughts? 961 00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:10,340 - No. - Then why did you say that? 962 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:12,609 - Just to get your attention. - I'm going back to my patient. 963 00:45:12,643 --> 00:45:15,244 Listen to me. I've been paying 250 a session for four years 964 00:45:15,279 --> 00:45:16,546 without showing up to a single session. 965 00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:19,014 You owe me $100,000 worth of therapy. 966 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:21,784 I'll forgive the debt, we'll be totally square, just give me one minute. 967 00:45:25,221 --> 00:45:27,756 I'm sorry. I'll be just a minute. 968 00:45:29,292 --> 00:45:31,159 Wow, you caved for the money. I'm kind of disappointed. 969 00:45:31,193 --> 00:45:34,229 I didn't cave for the money. You're getting the sessions you paid for. 970 00:45:34,263 --> 00:45:36,198 You seem like you're in pain. 971 00:45:36,232 --> 00:45:39,268 - He is. - He said in pain, not a pain. 972 00:45:39,302 --> 00:45:40,903 Oh, never mind, then. 973 00:45:40,938 --> 00:45:42,638 What is it? 974 00:45:42,673 --> 00:45:45,709 I'm doing all these things that are wrong because of ratings, 975 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,612 and I'm making the staff do things that they don't want to do, 976 00:45:48,647 --> 00:45:52,183 I'm cursing them out, I'm ignoring incredibly important news stories, 977 00:45:52,217 --> 00:45:54,185 and I'm betraying the trust of people who respect me. 978 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:56,254 And I did it all in the blink of an eye. 979 00:45:56,289 --> 00:45:58,690 - That can be traumatic. - No, I'm fine with all of that. 980 00:45:58,724 --> 00:46:01,093 Here's my thing: New York Magazine 981 00:46:01,127 --> 00:46:03,428 is gonna do a story on my show and I get to choose the writer. 982 00:46:03,463 --> 00:46:07,065 And I could have chosen anybody and I chose Mackenzie's ex-boyfriend. 983 00:46:07,099 --> 00:46:08,833 Of course. 984 00:46:08,868 --> 00:46:11,769 - The one she cheated on you with? - Yeah. 985 00:46:11,803 --> 00:46:14,572 - Why? - That's what I came here to ask you. 986 00:46:14,607 --> 00:46:16,274 You're holding your hand over the candle. 987 00:46:16,308 --> 00:46:17,541 What do you mean? 988 00:46:17,576 --> 00:46:19,310 You're holding your hand over the candle 989 00:46:19,344 --> 00:46:21,445 because you think the trick is not minding. 990 00:46:21,479 --> 00:46:24,147 Ah. 991 00:46:24,182 --> 00:46:27,617 So if I just get through this, I'll be fine. 992 00:46:27,652 --> 00:46:29,787 - No. - Why? 993 00:46:29,821 --> 00:46:31,922 Because the trick isn't not minding. 994 00:46:31,957 --> 00:46:34,691 The trick is forgiving Mackenzie. 995 00:46:34,726 --> 00:46:36,927 It would be easier to hold my hand over the candle. 996 00:46:36,961 --> 00:46:38,862 I know. 997 00:46:38,896 --> 00:46:42,566 Well, you've been no help at all, but thanks. Sorry to barge in. 998 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,902 You know, while you're working your way through this, 999 00:46:44,936 --> 00:46:46,504 you're hurting Mackenzie. 1000 00:46:46,538 --> 00:46:48,973 I know that. 1001 00:46:50,108 --> 00:46:52,809 Show up for your appointment. 1002 00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:58,950 I'm not doing it on purpose. 1003 00:47:02,921 --> 00:47:04,688 Maggie. 1004 00:47:05,724 --> 00:47:08,059 Yeah. 1005 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:12,864 - Sandy? - Yes. 1006 00:47:12,898 --> 00:47:15,132 - Margaret Jordan. We talked on the phone. - Nice to meet you. 1007 00:47:15,167 --> 00:47:16,801 - You got here okay? - Yes. 1008 00:47:16,835 --> 00:47:18,869 I have a receipt for the cab. Who do I give that to? 1009 00:47:18,904 --> 00:47:20,738 I'll take it. 1010 00:47:22,107 --> 00:47:25,242 So, you got some tweets from Congressman Weiner. 1011 00:47:25,277 --> 00:47:27,645 And I've got copies of them right here. 1012 00:47:31,117 --> 00:47:33,285 "'I like the cute new pics of you. 1013 00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:35,153 Where'd you get those abs?" 1014 00:47:35,188 --> 00:47:38,223 Weiner: "Glad you like them. When do I get to see your swimsuit shot?" 1015 00:47:38,258 --> 00:47:40,993 Sandy: "When are you coming to see me? 1016 00:47:41,027 --> 00:47:43,428 Or just coming?" Weiner: "Make me an offer." 1017 00:47:43,463 --> 00:47:45,797 Sandy: "My door's always open. Get it?" 1018 00:47:45,831 --> 00:47:48,033 Weiner: "What's your plan for us?" 1019 00:47:48,067 --> 00:47:51,703 Sandy: "To get us in the mood, we watch The Daily Show and Colbert. 1020 00:47:51,737 --> 00:47:53,605 Then when we're really hot, we go to the bookstore 1021 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:55,473 and replace all the copies of Glenn Beck books 1022 00:47:55,508 --> 00:47:58,176 with The Audacity of Hope. Or, if that's not your thing, 1023 00:47:58,210 --> 00:48:00,512 we can just get drunk and fuck." 1024 00:48:06,952 --> 00:48:08,453 Why are you doing this? 1025 00:48:08,487 --> 00:48:10,388 Because the world needs to know what kind of guy he is. 1026 00:48:10,423 --> 00:48:14,192 It sort of seems like you were a willing participant. 1027 00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:15,727 I didn't know about the other women. 1028 00:48:15,762 --> 00:48:17,529 - Did you know he was married? - Of course. 1029 00:48:17,563 --> 00:48:20,098 I just didn't know about the other women. 1030 00:48:20,132 --> 00:48:24,169 I was fooled and I think the world needs to know what kind of guy he is. 1031 00:48:24,203 --> 00:48:27,638 By any chance, have you heard of a guy named Dylan Kagin? 1032 00:48:27,673 --> 00:48:29,940 He's gonna be my agent. 1033 00:48:29,975 --> 00:48:32,776 Sandy-- Can I call you Sandy? 1034 00:48:32,810 --> 00:48:34,377 Sure. 1035 00:48:34,411 --> 00:48:37,881 Sandy, the congressman is in a lot of trouble. 1036 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:39,883 He got himself into it 1037 00:48:39,918 --> 00:48:42,686 and he's probably not gonna be able to get out of it. 1038 00:48:43,988 --> 00:48:47,258 Are you sure you want to pile on? 1039 00:48:47,292 --> 00:48:50,394 I think people need to know what kind of person he is. 1040 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,363 All right. 1041 00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:56,434 Would you like to be on our show tonight? 1042 00:48:56,468 --> 00:48:59,838 That's the thing. I'm doing Access Hollywood, ET, and Fox. 1043 00:48:59,872 --> 00:49:02,140 The big three. No problem. 1044 00:49:02,174 --> 00:49:05,310 We can do a pretape in a few minutes. 1045 00:49:05,345 --> 00:49:07,278 Oh, you're a lifesaver. I was hoping you'd say that. 1046 00:49:07,313 --> 00:49:09,247 No kidding? Stay here 1047 00:49:09,281 --> 00:49:12,950 and I'll talk to my EP and we'll get this going. 1048 00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:14,285 Could I possibly get a decaf latte? 1049 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,120 You cannot possibly get that, 1050 00:49:16,155 --> 00:49:18,690 but I'll have someone bring you a coffee. 1051 00:49:24,831 --> 00:49:27,566 Well, I left it for you on the left side of the desk. 1052 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,236 And, yes, I signed it. 1053 00:49:30,270 --> 00:49:31,737 I don't know anything about it. 1054 00:49:31,772 --> 00:49:34,240 Leona! 1055 00:49:34,274 --> 00:49:35,641 A word? 1056 00:49:35,675 --> 00:49:37,843 Okay, ask her to show it to me on the plane. 1057 00:49:39,612 --> 00:49:41,980 Let's not stand in the street. 1058 00:49:42,015 --> 00:49:44,049 Charlie, with that bow tie, 1059 00:49:44,084 --> 00:49:45,684 you look like a balloon salesman. 1060 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,553 No, I get in the car and get out a minute later, 1061 00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:51,723 it looks like we're talking about a problem or making a drug deal. 1062 00:49:51,758 --> 00:49:53,125 Just a minute. 1063 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:56,195 We're gonna stand here, smile and nod, 1064 00:49:56,229 --> 00:49:59,364 and do this and laugh. 1065 00:50:00,766 --> 00:50:03,935 We know where the tabloid stories are coming from. 1066 00:50:03,969 --> 00:50:06,304 They're coming from reality. 1067 00:50:06,338 --> 00:50:09,006 Only if you define reality as fantasy. 1068 00:50:09,041 --> 00:50:11,408 And they're appearing in a magazine you own. 1069 00:50:11,443 --> 00:50:13,810 How would it look if I had one of our news magazines 1070 00:50:13,845 --> 00:50:15,645 go soft on our flagship anchor? 1071 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,648 We're calling TMI a news magazine? 1072 00:50:17,682 --> 00:50:20,751 People need to know if Taylor Swift is happy. 1073 00:50:20,785 --> 00:50:24,355 - I provide a public service for hundreds of thousands-- - The public's grateful. 1074 00:50:24,389 --> 00:50:27,225 What did I tell you the day after election night? 1075 00:50:27,259 --> 00:50:31,529 Friend to friend, I'd stop coming after Will in the tabloids. 1076 00:50:31,563 --> 00:50:35,199 I told you to get him to lighten up on the Tea Party 1077 00:50:35,234 --> 00:50:37,568 or a context would be created 1078 00:50:37,603 --> 00:50:39,838 whereby his firing would look reasonable. 1079 00:50:39,872 --> 00:50:42,607 - You need to hear me. - I don't think I do. 1080 00:50:42,641 --> 00:50:45,109 The 112th Congress wasn't even seated 1081 00:50:45,143 --> 00:50:48,379 and he took the Tea Party out for a walk on the 9/11 Responders Bill. 1082 00:50:48,414 --> 00:50:51,182 Congress, Democrats and Republicans, 1083 00:50:51,217 --> 00:50:55,086 spent eight years using 9/11 as a justification 1084 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,588 for everything from tax cuts to a foreign invasion. 1085 00:50:57,623 --> 00:51:00,825 So Will questioned their change of heart 1086 00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:03,428 when it came to the police and firemen's unions. 1087 00:51:03,462 --> 00:51:05,630 You made them look like hypocrites. 1088 00:51:05,664 --> 00:51:07,365 By rolling tape. 1089 00:51:07,399 --> 00:51:09,867 House Financial Services, insider trading, 1090 00:51:09,902 --> 00:51:12,837 Keystone XL, Joe Walsh, Allen West, 1091 00:51:12,872 --> 00:51:15,407 Paul Ryan, and who am I forgetting? 1092 00:51:15,441 --> 00:51:19,277 Oh, yes. Charles and David Koch. 1093 00:51:19,312 --> 00:51:20,679 Keep smiling. 1094 00:51:20,713 --> 00:51:23,615 We lost a couple of awfully helpful tax loopholes 1095 00:51:23,649 --> 00:51:26,017 that were tailored to assets overseas. 1096 00:51:26,051 --> 00:51:29,020 And the FCC won't even let us bid on the coming spectrum auction 1097 00:51:29,054 --> 00:51:31,288 because they want a full report on whether or not 1098 00:51:31,323 --> 00:51:34,491 we're skirting antitrust. 1099 00:51:34,526 --> 00:51:36,994 So what was your request again? 1100 00:51:37,028 --> 00:51:39,630 You don't want to do this. 1101 00:51:39,664 --> 00:51:41,598 I don't. 1102 00:51:41,633 --> 00:51:43,667 I really don't. 1103 00:51:43,701 --> 00:51:45,736 But I have to and I will. 1104 00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:49,106 And friend to friend, 1105 00:51:49,141 --> 00:51:52,209 you let him know that he is one tabloid fuckup 1106 00:51:52,243 --> 00:51:55,512 and a ratings point away from having his own podcast. 1107 00:51:56,748 --> 00:51:59,116 I have to make my plane. 1108 00:52:04,422 --> 00:52:06,824 Fly safe. 1109 00:52:20,972 --> 00:52:23,874 - Unless there's a rally-- - I'm sorry, I've got to-- 1110 00:52:23,909 --> 00:52:25,543 - Listen. - Sloan. 1111 00:52:25,577 --> 00:52:27,145 Unless there's a rally in the next 90 minutes, 1112 00:52:27,179 --> 00:52:29,547 the Dow's gonna close down about 2.5%, 1113 00:52:29,582 --> 00:52:31,850 S&P and NASDAQ will close down 2.3. 1114 00:52:31,884 --> 00:52:33,952 - Let me tell you why. - I don't own a lot of stock. 1115 00:52:33,987 --> 00:52:35,187 - Let me tell you why. - I really can't-- 1116 00:52:35,221 --> 00:52:36,588 Stop avoiding this! 1117 00:52:36,623 --> 00:52:38,590 I just got off the phone with these guys. 1118 00:52:38,625 --> 00:52:40,926 Listen to these quotes. These aren't from liberals. 1119 00:52:40,961 --> 00:52:43,996 These are hard-core Wall Street guys who, whatever the world may think of them, 1120 00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:45,864 know what they're talking about and so do I. 1121 00:52:45,899 --> 00:52:48,401 Jamie Dimon at Chase says, 1122 00:52:48,435 --> 00:52:51,436 "Voting against raising the debt ceiling would be a moral disaster." 1123 00:52:51,471 --> 00:52:55,174 The Barclays guys say, "This debate is detached from reality." 1124 00:52:55,208 --> 00:52:59,145 My Goldman source says, "If the House Republicans continue this debate, 1125 00:52:59,179 --> 00:53:01,013 I hope they're willing to mark the end 1126 00:53:01,047 --> 00:53:04,183 of the dollar as a global reserve currency." 1127 00:53:04,217 --> 00:53:08,588 Please notice that he didn't say if the House Republicans don't raise the debt ceiling. 1128 00:53:08,622 --> 00:53:12,592 He said if the House Republicans continue this debate. 1129 00:53:14,362 --> 00:53:17,096 That's all it takes. Just the uncertainty. 1130 00:53:17,131 --> 00:53:21,134 That's why the Dow's gonna close down 230 points today. 1131 00:53:21,168 --> 00:53:24,137 Because just the debate, just the doubt, 1132 00:53:24,171 --> 00:53:26,839 just the possibility that the House Majority might commit 1133 00:53:26,874 --> 00:53:29,208 the most self-inflicted damage to the country 1134 00:53:29,243 --> 00:53:31,611 since the secession of the South 1135 00:53:31,645 --> 00:53:33,546 has caused billions in value to disappear. 1136 00:53:33,581 --> 00:53:36,116 Sloan, I understand. I swear to God I do. 1137 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:37,884 But you can't say the same thing in the C block? 1138 00:53:37,919 --> 00:53:39,953 Don't pretend you don't know that most people watch 10 minutes of news. 1139 00:53:39,988 --> 00:53:41,755 - The first 10 minutes. - The vote isn't until tomorrow night. 1140 00:53:41,789 --> 00:53:43,990 And it's only the first vote. You said yourself it was cosmetic. 1141 00:53:44,025 --> 00:53:45,192 Why do we have to feature it tonight? 1142 00:53:45,226 --> 00:53:46,460 We should have been featuring it weeks ago. 1143 00:53:46,494 --> 00:53:48,762 Why do we have to feature it tonight? 1144 00:53:48,796 --> 00:53:50,931 To give time for the people to call their congressmen 1145 00:53:50,965 --> 00:53:52,999 and say, "If you fuck with the full faith 1146 00:53:53,033 --> 00:53:55,101 and credit of the US Treasury, you're fired." 1147 00:53:55,135 --> 00:53:58,505 To give time for the people to jam the phone lines of the district offices. 1148 00:53:58,539 --> 00:54:00,941 To give the people time to say, 1149 00:54:00,975 --> 00:54:03,043 "I'm a fiscal conservative 1150 00:54:03,078 --> 00:54:06,548 and you've got to put the pin back in the grenade right now." 1151 00:54:06,582 --> 00:54:09,117 That's why. 1152 00:54:11,787 --> 00:54:14,089 I'm gonna do everything I can. 1153 00:54:14,123 --> 00:54:16,424 Please do. 1154 00:54:22,030 --> 00:54:23,764 Don't worry about it. 1155 00:54:23,798 --> 00:54:26,000 She's just frustrated because she can't get the word out 1156 00:54:26,034 --> 00:54:28,669 that this is a global emergency unless you let her. 1157 00:54:30,538 --> 00:54:33,407 Appreciate your clearing that up. 1158 00:54:33,441 --> 00:54:36,343 You know what, Mackenzie? 1159 00:54:36,377 --> 00:54:39,179 I'm not the one who put me here. 1160 00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:42,248 Say what you want about me, but I wouldn't have done that. 1161 00:54:55,363 --> 00:54:56,863 Does Will have the questions? 1162 00:54:56,898 --> 00:54:58,999 Tess is giving him some cards now. 1163 00:55:02,003 --> 00:55:04,837 - Is that lighting okay for you? - Yeah. 1164 00:55:04,872 --> 00:55:07,006 - How are we Chyroning her? - I was gonna ask you. 1165 00:55:07,041 --> 00:55:10,310 Figure it out later. 1166 00:55:14,482 --> 00:55:16,516 - Sandy. - Yes? 1167 00:55:16,550 --> 00:55:19,486 My name's Mackenzie. I'm the executive-- 1168 00:55:21,356 --> 00:55:23,457 I'm the executive producer of News Night. 1169 00:55:23,492 --> 00:55:25,326 - Can you hear me okay? - Yes. 1170 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,262 Okay. Thanks for being patient with us. 1171 00:55:28,297 --> 00:55:31,166 Will's just throwing on a jacket and tie 1172 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,101 and we'll be able to do this. 1173 00:55:33,135 --> 00:55:36,204 - Real easy. - You got it. 1174 00:55:46,649 --> 00:55:48,984 Hi, I'm a big fan. 1175 00:55:49,018 --> 00:55:51,453 - Hmm? - I'm Sandy. 1176 00:55:51,488 --> 00:55:53,455 How do you do? 1177 00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:56,258 - Are we ready for the pre-tape? - Yeah. 1178 00:55:56,293 --> 00:55:57,994 - Just count me down. - Will. 1179 00:55:58,028 --> 00:56:00,329 Yes, I'm sure I want to do this. 1180 00:56:00,364 --> 00:56:04,133 God, please give me a sign I'm not doing a big thing badly. 1181 00:56:07,044 --> 00:56:11,024 Sync, corrected by icephoenix www.addic7ed.com 1182 00:56:11,041 --> 00:56:12,208 We just lost power. 1183 00:56:12,242 --> 00:56:14,677 The whole building just lost power. 1184 00:56:14,712 --> 00:56:17,480 I didn't know He had that kind of comic timing. 99568

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