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- Still nothing?
- They're still not answering.

- But you've been...
- Yeah, calling every 30 minutes,

just like you asked.

They haven't answered in days.

How long we gonna keep trying?

Let me make sure I'm getting this right.

David Koresh believes the opening
of the fifth seal begins

- when Babylon, the ATF...
- Mm-hm.

- ...attacks the "peculiar people."
- Right, the Branch Davidians.

Then there's a quote.
"Little season of waiting."

Yes, that's what they believe
they're in right now.

And that little season culminates
in a second round of bloodshed

- in which the rest of them are killed.
- Exactly.

But where this gets interesting

is the interpretation
of the little season.

Um, in Biblical terms, that
could be a month or a decade.

It's not specific.

And the word "season" in the Bible

is a translation
of the Greek word "kairos,"

- which actually means...
- Time.

..."time" more than "season."

So, you can think of it like "right
time" versus a literal season.

These people are not crazy.
David Koresh is not crazy.

His theology follows a coherent logic.

Agree with it or not,
there's something to it.

If you say so, I believe you. Uh...

Let's open up this conversation
to some callers.

Uh, Derek, you're on the air.

Hey, Ron. Say, I'm, uh...
I'm one of the camera guys

that's standing out here
watching Mount Carmel.

Something occurred to me.

You know how the Branch Davidians

have had no way of communicating
with the outside world?

I've been thinking. There's this
huge satellite dish on their roof.

I mean, if we can somehow
get them to listen to your show,

we can ask 'em "yes or no" questions

and they could move the dish
to answer, right?

- Thibs.
- Go, go.

Go.

That's not a bad idea.

I guess the question would then be,

"How do we get them
to listen to my show?"

Ron, they just moved it.
They moved the dish.

They did?

Again!

Are you guys listening to me in there?

Again! Move it, Thibs!

- That's a "yes."
- We have communications!

- That's a "yes." Um, hi, guys...
- We have communications.

Let me ask you,
is there anything you need?

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My name is Dick DeGuerin.
David Koresh's lawyer.

Jack Zimmerman.
Steve Schneider's lawyer.

We'd like to speak with our clients.

- Ron Engelman, KGBS.
- You can't be serious.

You expect me to, what,

just let you walk up there
and knock on the front door?

We filed a writ of habeas corpus.

That only applies
when someone's in custody.

Well, if they're not in custody,

we'll arrange transportation
so they can leave.

They haven't even asked for a lawyer.

Yes, they have.

They're asking for their lawyers in
front of the whole world. Now...

what do you think's gonna happen to you

when this whole case is dismissed...

because you refused them
the right to counsel?

David, they're coming.

ATF claim that you shot at them
first through those front doors,

but the metal bends inward.

They claim their helicopters
didn't fire,

but the holes in Jaydean's room
are clearly from above.

We have recordings,

the 911s, Wayne made
of you trying to surrender.

Trust me on this, gentlemen,
any jury sees this at all,

you got a hell of a case
for self-defense here.

This is the U.S. government
we're up against,

and you're sitting here telling
me we're gonna get a fair shake?

The government doesn't sit on the jury.
People like y'all do.

Let me ask you this.

If you were on that jury
and you saw that front door,

what would your verdict be?

What's the plan?
What's the strategy here?

The plan is we go for full acquittal.

Full acquittal?

- Thanks again.
- We'll be in touch.

You realize we're standing outside.

I know.

What do you think?

The theologian on the radio
show, the little season...

the camera man calling in,
the satellite...

the lawyers...

All of this doesn't happen by chance.

Come on.

Gary!

Hello?

- Hello? Hello?
- Gary?

Oh, David. I have to say I've missed
the sound of your voice, brother.

- What's going on?
- Something special happened today, Gary.

Something I can't see
as anything short of a miracle.

What are you saying?

I got my sign from God, Gary.

We're coming out.

But first, I want to protect the
message that we have going on in here.

So, when I go to jail,

I can spend all my time
answering the stupid questions.

Like, "Why do you have
so many wives in there?"

and "Why are you torturing babies?"

'Cause once I finish writing
those seven seals,

I will personally walk out
that front door,

and you can throw me in the jailhouse

and come on down and feed me bananas

for all you want.

I'll come feed you anything you like.

How long will it take you to write it?

Oh, I'm thinking a week, a week or so.

Are you telling me that once you have

reduced your version
of the seven seals to written form,

that you and all your people
are coming out of there?

I have no reason to draw
this out any longer, Gary.

Please answer the question definitively.

Are you coming out
as soon as you're done?

Gary, I'm going to fulfill
my commitment to God.

Now, if you would allow me to show you

what has been pre-written by the prophets,

you'll have a way better understanding
of what's going on in here.

I am asking you
a very simple question, David.

- I need...
- I'm gonna give you a very simple answer.

Yes, yes, yes!

We have no intention
of dying in here, Gary.

Okay, David. Well, I'm
gonna let you get to work

because, frankly, I am eagerly
awaiting that manuscript.

Well, I tell you what.

It's gonna blow your socks off, Gary.

My concern is...

- we gotta make sure that their field...
- They're surrendering.

We're gonna work out
the details of the surrender

while David writes down his
interpretation of the seven seals.

- Then they'll come out.
- How long is that gonna take?

- They're guessing a week.
- Tell them to take a few extra days.

Maybe knock out his memoirs
while he's at it.

Look, I just got off the phone
with the man, okay?

He told me, "I never
intended to die in here."

Those are his words, okay? But...

Koresh's biggest fear is being silenced

before he can share his message
with the world.

If we let him write it,
he will come out peacefully.

It's just another stall tactic.

You're not taking this
seriously, are you?

Mitch, we've been here six weeks.
What's one more?

- I know how long we've been here.
- One more.

All right, Gary, start working
out the details of surrender,

and let's see if it happens.

I can buy you one week.

Yeah, thanks. Yeah.

Excuse me. Everyone, listen up.

I've got some news.

David's received a sign from God.

We're working out a plan to surrender.

It's over.

It's all over.

Oh! Oh, God!

It's gonna be okay.

I'm ready.

Strange, indeed...

...for the judgment of man,

for who knows within himself
that his judgment be true?

Steve Schneider will then deliver

the manuscript of the seven seals

to the theologian James Tabor.

Once the manuscript
is delivered to Tabor,

David Koresh will leave the building,

either by foot or on stretcher,

followed by those
remaining on the inside.

How do we know the place
isn't rigged with bombs?

I don't want my men getting blown
up when they search the place.

Mitch, why the hell would they
put bombs in their own house?

I'll be the last one
out of the building, and...

the Texas Rangers will be the
ones to secure the scene,

not you, to protect the evidence.

- Not acceptable.
- Non-negotiable.

If you wanted them to trust you,
you shouldn't have tortured 'em.

We'll accept those conditions.

Good.

Hey.

- Hungry?
- Starving...

for anything
but those disgusting things.

First thing I'm gonna eat
when I get out of here...

a whole box of fish sticks.

Yeah.

Do you think you'll go to jail...

once this is done?

Yeah. Probably for a little while.

Do you think I'll go to jail?

No.

No, that would be crazy.

My idea of crazy has been changing.

Yeah.

But, hey... when I get out of jail...

I think I could look you up.

Give you a call.

You won't have to.

I'll be standing outside the
jail, waiting to drive you home.

And I saw, in his right hand
that sat on the throne,

a book written within and on the
backside, sealed with seven seals...

David, I gotta stop.
My finger's really hurting here.

And I saw a strong angel...
proclaim with a loud voice,

"Who is worthy to open the book?

And to loose its seals?"

And no man in heaven...

nor on earth, nor under the earth...

Honestly... it's been four days.

How real do you think
this Koresh manuscript is?

I-I think it's real.

Have you seen any of it yet?

No, they haven't sent anything out.

Has anyone in there seen in it?

Nobody's seen it, but he's working
on it day and night, apparently.

Like, have I read
the manuscript personally? No.

- But... I know he's working on it.
- Very clearly...

All right, Steve,
I need you to send me some pages

to show my bosses that you and I
are working towards a resolution.

Because right now,
they think David is stalling.

I mean, I can try, but...

To avoid them making any hasty decisions.

Do you understand me?

Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

We'll send out some pages.
I'll talk to David.

Hey, where'd Prince go?

He left with Decker.

Wh-Where?

I think they headed to the airport.

...saying with a loud voice,
"Worthy is the Lamb

that was slain to receive honor
and power and glory..."

- David...
- "...and strength.

- Wisdom..."
- I need to talk to you.

I need your permission to send out
some of the manuscript pages.

No, it's not ready.

David, Gary has got to show his bosses

that we are really doing something here.

We have to send out some pages.

Steve, last time I rushed it,
the message wasn't ready.

And finally, I've received
the word of God.

And this is gonna be the most
sacred revelation in human history.

- It's gotta be right!
- I know, but I am telling you...

And I'm telling you
you'll get it when it's done!

Because under him and for him...

all things were created.

You're telling me you've
exhausted every other possible option?

Negotiations have reached an
impasse, Madam Attorney General.

You're asking me
to sign off on an assault

that would put children in danger.

I wouldn't call it an assault.

Once we insert tear gas into the
compound, they'll come right out.

I thought you said
they all had gas masks in there.

Nobody makes a gas mask
that'll fit children.

Once those mothers see those
kids' eyes watering like that,

game over.

Wouldn't that hurt them?

We believe
it's the best option available.

Our intelligence

shows they continue to abuse
those children while we wait.

There's no other way to end this?

I'm afraid it's the only way.

- Let me take this to the president.
- Thank you, Madam General.

There are barrels of CS gas out there.

This thing needs to be brought
to a logical conclusion.

CS gas is banned
by the Geneva Convention.

It would be a war crime
to use CS gas on a terrorist.

And you think it's a logical conclusion

to use it on American women
and children?

You've had almost two months to
work this out. And you failed.

What do you mean I failed?
We have a deal for surrender!

Yeah, I know.

All right. Hey! Walter!
Get him on the phone!

- Now!
- Yeah.

- Hello?
- Steve, it's been a week.

You told me you were gonna
get me some pages.

- I know, but David...
- Nuh-uh, uh-uh! I need the pages.

Gary, David really wants to get
this right before he sends...

I don't give a shit what David
wants anymore! I need those pages!

The last time he sent out a
message, he was embarrassed,

and you saw how that turned out.

Why not give him the time that he
needs so that he can get it right?

We don't have time anymore.
Get me the pages now, Steve.

I am trying to help you people,
but you make it so goddamn hard.

Do you have any idea what is...?

Hello?

Steve?

You've gotten
a little too close to this one.

I'm sending you home.

Uh-uh, I'm not leaving.

Gary...

Please don't make me have my guys do it.

You cannot remove these people by force.

The more you push them,

the more they
think it is a test of their faith.

You've been wrong about a whole
lot of things on this one, Gary.

Don't do it, Tony.
Don't go in there with gas.

This isn't your fight any longer, Gary.

All right.

Let's pack it up.

They asked me to stay.

Oh.

Oh, Jesus.

You know...

before this...

before all the tanks

and psy-ops and guns...

and cruelty...

and bullshit...

do you know how they kept order in Waco?

Do you know how they kept
the Branch Davidians in line?

They talked to 'em!

The local sheriff doesn't even carry
a sidearm. He doesn't need one.

But you people...

Look at yourselves! All this!

All this!

You think this is really working?

Good luck.

David, it's the FBI on the phone.

I've agreed to everything.

But they won't stop.

It sounds important.

- Gary?
- No, it's Walter. Gary's been reassigned.

Reassigned? Why?

David, I need to tell you that my bosses

have run out of patience with you.

Every day, we try
and show you men good faith,

but all you want to do is fight.

I'm tired. I don't wanna fight no more.

I'm a life. Everyone in here is a life.

We've got children.
We're American citizens.

But we all have our breaking point.

You brought yourself
to that breaking point, David.

If you'd walked out on that day
as you promised,

by now, you'd probably be
out on bail for God's sake!

We both know that's not true.

You got your guys out here
removing evidences,

you say you're the government, you
wanna settle this in a court of law,

but I don't believe it anymore!

Are you covering up for the ATF?

Because it appears that way, Walter.

- We're not removing evidence, David.
- You are removing evidences!

And there's things in here
that we can't replace!

Like that '68 SS El Camino!
You can't replace that!

They don't make those anymore!

I don't really have control
over that, David.

It's wrong, and you're doing
wrong by God and by man,

and every day,
you're adding to your wrong!

David, you're the one who's doing wrong.

No, no, no, no!

- No!
- David, you seem to have no concern

about anybody within
that place except yourself!

Walter, please tell me...

what is it you men really want?

We want you and everyone else in
that place to come out safely.

Well, you're not showing me
that that's what you want.

Because I believe
you want just the opposite.

That's not true, David.

Your commanders are fixing to ruin
the safety of me and my children,

my life, the lives of my wives,

the lives of my family,
the lives of my friends.

You all are fixing to step across
that ribbon, and you know it!

Walter, if you want to place
this in the history books

as one of the saddest days
the world's ever known...

then that's on you.

David...

Hello?

I need to speak to Steve right away.

Steve! Steve!

Tanks are coming right at us!

Shit!

This is Steve.

Steve, we are going to
insert tear gas into your building.

- What?
- This is not an assault.

We are not entering your building.

- Do not fire your weapon.
- No.

- If you fire, fire will be returned.
- No, no!

- No, we had a deal for surrender!
- This is not an assault.

We had a deal!

Son of a bitch!

Everyone, get your gas masks! Now!

David?

- David, wake up.
- Hm?

- They're gonna gas us.
- What? Gas us?

I mean they're coming with gas.

- All right, get Walter back on the phone.
- No, it cut off.

Cut off? What do you mean "cut off"?

I got mad, and I ripped out the phone.

- Why would you do that, Steve?
- They're done talking!

Okay, then, men in the chapel,
women in the vault.

We need to wet the blankets
to protect the children

- from the gas, okay?
- No, no, we gotta get out of here.

They're trying to stop me from
getting the message out, okay?

- I need more time.
- David, we gotta leave.

Stay with me, okay? Stay with me!

Let's keep moving!

- I need to use that PA!
- I can't authorize...

I'm authorizing it!

This is not an assault.
The siege is over now.

The gas you will be smelling
is a non-lethal tear gas.

Exit the compound now.
You will not be harmed.

This is not an assault.

Michelle! Michelle!

Get to the vault! Go, go, go! Go!

This is not an assault.
Exit the compound now.

Come on, let's go.

Put this on your face, okay?

- Okay.
- Please, don't leave us. Please.

Stay safe. I'll come back, okay?
I'll come back.

It's okay.

Get back.

...has been standing by in Waco, Texas

for the entire duration of the standoff.

- She joins us now live.
- John, about five minutes ago,

we saw tanks continuing
to batter the compound,

continuing to put gaping holes
into the walls of the structure.

We saw what looked like white,
wispy smoke coming out,

which usually is indicative of tear gas.

The FBI has told us that they are using
non-lethal tear gas...

Rachel?

Oh, my God! Rachel!

Put your hands... Put your hands here.

Judy, get the kids...
get the kids out of here.

Put your hands here.
I'm gonna pull your body out.

- Both of your hands, Rachel.
- I can't! Stop...

Pull yourself up.

We gotta get to that vault, David.

Get up. I got you.

- My eyes!
- Cover them!

David told us
to go to the vault, Rachel.

Keep your eyes covered.

Rachel!

No! No!

Enough! I am getting my kids
out of here!

We're going to the storm shelter.
Come on, come on.

I want to come with you!

It looks like the tanks
are, uh, knocking out the walls.

I'm not sure how much longer
the structure will hold...

The FBI is reporting they're receiving

heavy gunfire from the Branch Davidians.

- Who's... Who's firing?
- If you're still listening in there,

you're lives are at stake.

Gas will be continue
to be delivered until everyone

is out of that building.

Heat signature shows people
gathering in the vault.

Gas isn't penetrating there.

Gas the vault.
I need you to gas the vault.

- Open up! Open up!
- No! No!

No! Cyrus!

Why isn't anyone coming out?

They should be coming out.

Why aren't they coming out?

Okay, get outside!

Get outside!

- Cyrus!
- This way!

Oh, my God!

Oh, my God! It's... It's blocked, Rachel!
It's blocked!

Go back! Go back!

Serenity! Serenity!

- Ronnie, for the last 15 minutes...
- My God.

...we watched this M60 vehicle,
this combat engineering vehicle,

uh, pump tear gas in there.

And at times, as you well know,
tear gas can be incendiary.

We have a very
large-scale fire breaking out

on what must be the southside,

right near the front side
of this building.

Uh, these... these are
some amazing pictures here.

Uh, a fire has broken out, and, uh,
let's just stay with this, and...

- Michelle!
- Thibs, wait! Wait!

Michelle!

Help me!

- Help!
- Please!

Help!

Please stop, Rachel! Just stop!

Come out now! Save yourselves!
It's time to come out, David!

Rachel, Rachel! No! No!

No. Cyrus!

Wake up! Wake up!

Go, go, go, go, go! Go, go!

- Let me see you hands!
- Don't shoot! Don't shoot. I'm unarmed!

It's okay. It's okay. Okay.

Michelle! Michelle!

Michelle!

95 people believed
to be inside this building.

17 of those 95 people, children.

- God.
- 37 people have left the compound

since the standoff began 51 days ago.

Oh, no. Oh, no.

Where are the kids? Where...

- Michelle!
- No. Where are the kids?

- Michelle!
- Tell us! Where are the kids?

Cyrus?

Get out! Get out! Get out!

- Help! Help!
- Get out! Get out!

Help!

- We give up. We give up.
- Okay. Okay. Okay.

We give...

Somebody help me! We got kids down here!

My son's not moving.
Is he dead? Is he dead?

Somebody help me!

- Just, please, get my boy, please!
- I'm gonna get you out of there.

Please!

Somebody help me!

Help!

Wait! Wait!

Wait!

The following persons
have come out of the compound.

Jamie Castillo, date of birth 6/4/68.

Clive Doyle, date of birth 2/24/41.

Misty Ferguson, 16 years of age.

Derrick Lovelock, born 8/13/1955.

A citizen of the United Kingdom.

- David Thibodeau...
- Oh, yes!

- Yes!
- ...born 2/13/69.

There are no other confirmed
survivors at this time.

And I'm sorry to report

that none of the children made it out.

Unfortunately...

we were unable to prevent
this tragic mass suicide.

The FBI and the Branch Davidians

each claim the other started the fire.

And we may never know the truth.

So, instead, let's talk
about what we do know.

Fact: Fresno, California, 1973.

A standoff with law enforcement ends

when tear gas turns to fire,
killing those inside.

Fact: Los Angeles, '74.

Standoff between the SLA
and law enforcement ends

when tear gas turns to fire,
killing those inside.

Fact: '81, West Fork, Arkansas.
A standoff, tear gas, fire, death.

1983, Smithfield, Arkansas.
1985, Philadelphia.

1987, Escondido, California.

All of them...

standoff, tear gas, fire, death.

The FBI knows this happens,

and yet they made no plan...

to put out a fire...

if one started.

We are... all of us...

Americans.

When did we start seeing
each other as the enemy?

Gary Noesner?

They're ready for your testimony.

Thank you.

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